Bangkok Reports

[Asian Rain]

When I am in the negotiation stage I am very clear that if I am happy with the service I provide a tip at the end. Someone clued me into this one and it has improved service at least 50% of the time. I have not yet returned to Thailand but when I am next at Thermae I will try it out there.

When your goal is certainty for specific services like BBFS, hoping for vague improvements at the rate of a coin flip doesn't cut it. If you want anything guaranteed beyond the expectation of CFS with Thermae girls, experience of many here is to negotiate precisely what you want. On your next trip, if you are using your nice guy tip promise to unlock BBFS, please do report on your actual success rate.

On to Thermae. Third stop was a very attractive, slim but curvy, tallish, light-skinned model type with fine legs under a short skirt standing in the line up near the booths who I caught staring and smiling at me as I had been making my first and second stops. So I took a deep breath to start anew and went right over to her. Not much English but enough. Name was P-something. I stopped asking her to repeat it after the 2nd attempt to hear it clearly in that godawful environment for meeting and negotiating something of value with a Thai P4 P girl in that venue. 3,000 for Short Time and No to BBBJCIM. Do I dare to even bother ask the next question? Yep. Yes to "boom boom no condom" for 5,000 baht. "Finiish inside" I stilulated. "6,000 baht" she responded with a giggle. I smiled and said "5,000 ok if I finish inside". She nodded and said "Yes, let's go."

Sometimes you just have to have it. Key takeaway was the point on negotiating CIP as part of the BBFS deal. Sometimes just negotiating for "no condom" ends with a request to cum outside which IMHO entirely defeats the purpose.

I'll have to give it some serious thought about whether or not to repeat. Especially for 5000.

I had a cutie Laotian girl (young, very slim, no baby) that upsold from 3000 bhat to 4500 bhat to include BBFS. Her service was super meh, but did the job. On a subsequent encounter, she was keen for a repeat. I was too, but not at 4500 bhat for what would likely be meh service, so I showed her my phone with "3000 bhat" and she accepted (of course I confirmed BBFS was part of the deal). Abundance mentality helps for me. If she had refused, I would have been happy to leave it as I have a rolodex of repeat girls that will consistently rock my world for 3000 bhat (or less). Enjoy, AR.

[Nyezhov]

I picked a simple but effective trick in a neighboring country to the south to elevate my odds of having quality alone with the lady. When I am in the negotiation stage I am very clear that if I am happy with the service I provide a tip at the end. Someone clued me into this one and it has improved service at least 50% of the time. I have not yet returned to Thailand but when I am next at Thermae I will try it out there.

I can't tell you whether it makes a difference or not because I'm generally satisfied with the services I received and I generally promised tips. 30 years ago though, a 500 Baht tip mint a lot more to the girls.

[Lumens]

I slowly cruised through the 7 Centre Point collection of outdoor beer bars on Sukhumvit Soi 7 last night starting around 8:45 pm and, as usual, was grabbed and pawed at by several girls among them along the way. Also as usual for that collection of bars my pleasant and encouraging question of every one of the above average looking and attractive ones, 4 of them, about whether they go with customers or only drink with customers was met with the usual sheepish reply of "Only drink" as though they had been busted trying to pull a little scam. I don't know what the below average lookers and unattractive ladies there who grabbed me might have replied because I didn't ask. I should also mention that the only above average lookers or attractive girls who tried to pull me into their bar area, all of whom said "No, I Don't Go With Customers, Only Drink With Customers", did politely and helpfully gesture towards other ladies in their bar who would go with customers if that is what I want, all of them too old, too fat or both to inspire me to follow up on their polite and helpful invitation. We're talking 50+ years old and at least 7-8 kilos over normal weight for their height.

I did make it a point to scan the options at Big be Bar and the current incarnation of Beer Garden bar. I was also reached out for and grabbed by ladies as I slowly passed by and can't say I saw anyone who wasn't too old, too fat or both to inspire me to risk asking the question. But it is always possible my timing was off on this Friday night in striking gold in those bars. The best ones might have already been taken. Maybe I will return at 7 pm some other Friday or Saturday night.

As I was leaving the area a large and quite English-fluent Ladyboy grabbed me in front of one of the Soi 7 side bars, identified himself as the manager of the bar we were standing in front of (I didn't catch the name of it) and asked me what I was looking for. I smiled and said I was simply looking for a young attractive genuine female who also goes with customers and not just sit to have lady drinks with customers. That seemed to stump him. He also scanned the girls in his bar, one or two of whom did indeed qualify in terms of looks, age, weight and gender, but he could not bring himself to suggest or recommend either of them. I have to assume they were Drink Only girls or he got an unspoken vibe from them that the idea of leaving the bar with me at some point in the evening was just not an acceptable option for them. I have no idea which or if it was something else.

On to Thermae.

Again, I got plenty of smiles and even 2-3 cautious reach outs from quite a few above average lookers in the place. My first stop was with a cutie sitting on a barstool who spoke English well, smiled and chuckled at my small talk intro. Yes to BBBJ but a reluctant and timid ok to the idea of a CIM finish. Absolute No to BBFS. I didn't bother including the all-important CIP part. 3,000 baht for Short Time, no budging. She was enticing, had a good look, as least as much as I could tell with her sitting on a barstool instead of standing, and seemed very enthusiastic about me taking her. But the absolute No to BBFS / CIP and reluctant response to the idea of me actually finishing a BJ orally convinced me this was going to be nothing better than a HJ with a little oral foreplay thrown in for 3000 baht even if with a very cute young lady. Which can sometimes be more disappointing to me than if we don't even get naked in the room together to have any kind of sex at all.

Second stop was a sultry, long dark-haired lady in mid 30's or so who also seemed delighted that I chatted with her. No to BBBJCIM and BBFSCIP, no money mentioned so I assume that was a No for even as much as 1,000,000 baht and lifetime support of her buffalo and children's children.

Third stop was a very attractive, slim but curvy, tallish, light-skinned model type with fine legs under a short skirt standing in the line up near the booths who I caught staring and smiling at me as I had been making my first and second stops. So I took a deep breath to start anew and went right over to her.

Not much English but enough. Name was P-something. I stopped asking her to repeat it after the 2nd attempt to hear it clearly in that godawful environment for meeting and negotiating something of value with a Thai P4 P girl in that venue. 3,000 for Short Time and No to BBBJCIM. Do I dare to even bother ask the next question? Yep. Yes to "boom boom no condom" for 5,000 baht. "Finiish inside" I stilulated. "6,000 baht" she responded with a giggle. I smiled and said "5,000 ok if I finish inside". She nodded and said "Yes, let's go."

Naked in my room, she was hot all over but unfortunately much more passive and mechanical than her demeanor in Thermae suggested it would be. Zero touching or kissing me or minimal affection in that way other than on the Business Only portions of the package between my legs. The plain vanilla BBFSCIP was technically Real Sex alright. But I'll have to give it some serious thought about whether or not to repeat. Especially for 5000. She did not ask for Payment Upfront in the room and was fine with waiting to be paid after. Imo that is a sign that she gives her customers little to no reason to ever want or try to cheat her out of payment afterwards.

Not exactly revelatory sex. But, hey, it has been years since an above average looker, in this case a vert attractive young lady, in Thermae has so much as agreed to have Real Sex / BBFSCIP with me either upfront in the bar or at crunch time in the room and then to actually make good on the arrangement! At least technically, as it was.

As always, YMMV.

I picked a simple but effective trick in a neighboring country to the south to elevate my odds of having quality alone with the lady. When I am in the negotiation stage I am very clear that if I am happy with the service I provide a tip at the end. Someone clued me into this one and it has improved service at least 50% of the time. I have not yet returned to Thailand but when I am next at Thermae I will try it out there.

[Oskarr1981]

I have been to many if the nuru shops over several trips, and reached the following conclusions:

- the ones described as 'best' on the internet are only a few of the good ones and not always best.

- for example the praised La Bonita wants you to pay before seeing the girls in the flesh! Do not patronize them.

- and never choose on photos of the girls, they are always heavily enhanced.

- when it comes to the appearance of the girl on the websites, what really makes the difference between shops is mostly the degree and quality of the photo enhancements.

- it is not my opinion that the extra cost in the large brothels (e. G. La Belle) is worth the difference to what is available in shops if you search a bit.

- I found that strolling through areas with numerous shops such as Sukhumvit alley 33 is a good and effective search method, as many girls are sitting outside. You may find real gems this way, and you will pleasure your eyes.

- many less well known shops have cheaper options, such as BJ only or 30 min standard FS sessions.

- from the airport, the trip, search, deed, and return may take you only under 3 hrs. Count on 4 hrs and you are safe. I use the Cityline from the airport combined with the MRT and / or taxis.

As a result of these observations, I found such a gem at Sena Nuru (alley 33): the name of that wonderful, very young woman is Peach. She is offering excellent nuru and very good 100% GFE service. She is sexy and beautiful, with an angelic face, personable, easy going, and she gave me my best experience ever in BKK. Used to Latam, I had not found the girls overly attractive in these thai shops until I met her. I would strongly advise to opt for the nuru option with her, it is well worth it as a warm up and adds only THB400 to the total cost.

[Tustia]

Hey guys,

Has anyone ever had an encounter with OF porn-star, Raysileeum? I have seen a couple of her ads and am wondering if it is worth it. TIA!

[Nyezhov]

CIT = Cum in Tits.

CIM = Cum in Mouth.

CIF = Cum in Face.

CIP = Cum in Pussy.

Nope. COT is cum on tits.

CIT is Cum in Throat. These two were like vacuum cleaners, young (looking) and skinny hardbodiess. I think I gave one like 2500 or 3000 for a BJ once simply because it was so good.

[Mosquito2002]

I believe that only doctors provide prescriptions and I have never seen a doctor working out of a pharmacy. So if you really need a scrip, easy advice is to go to Medconsult Clinic where Doctor Donna can both write you a prescription and dispense generic ED meds of your choice from thier in-house pharmacy. You can also use the WellMed Clinic as an alternative. Of course if you don't need a written script, then either Southeast Pharmacy or PS15 Pharmacy will dispense generics no questions asked. AR.

Hey, thanks for the recommendation.

Visited their office (small, but functional), fast and easy. In and out in under 30 minutes.

Total Cost: 1860 Baht. Got more preventive / treatment drugs than I initially thought I'd get, plus ED meds and doctors prescription to cover them all.

Myanmar customs didn't check anything, still better to be safe.

[MikeL893]

CIT = Cum In Throat?

CIT = Cum in Tits.

CIM = Cum in Mouth.

CIF = Cum in Face.

CIP = Cum in Pussy.

[EihTooms]

I slowly cruised through the 7 Centre Point collection of outdoor beer bars on Sukhumvit Soi 7 last night starting around 8:45 pm and, as usual, was grabbed and pawed at by several girls among them along the way. Also as usual for that collection of bars my pleasant and encouraging question of every one of the above average looking and attractive ones, 4 of them, about whether they go with customers or only drink with customers was met with the usual sheepish reply of "Only drink" as though they had been busted trying to pull a little scam. I don't know what the below average lookers and unattractive ladies there who grabbed me might have replied because I didn't ask. I should also mention that the only above average lookers or attractive girls who tried to pull me into their bar area, all of whom said "No, I Don't Go With Customers, Only Drink With Customers", did politely and helpfully gesture towards other ladies in their bar who would go with customers if that is what I want, all of them too old, too fat or both to inspire me to follow up on their polite and helpful invitation. We're talking 50+ years old and at least 7-8 kilos over normal weight for their height.

I did make it a point to scan the options at Big be Bar and the current incarnation of Beer Garden bar. I was also reached out for and grabbed by ladies as I slowly passed by and can't say I saw anyone who wasn't too old, too fat or both to inspire me to risk asking the question. But it is always possible my timing was off on this Friday night in striking gold in those bars. The best ones might have already been taken. Maybe I will return at 7 pm some other Friday or Saturday night.

As I was leaving the area a large and quite English-fluent Ladyboy grabbed me in front of one of the Soi 7 side bars, identified himself as the manager of the bar we were standing in front of (I didn't catch the name of it) and asked me what I was looking for. I smiled and said I was simply looking for a young attractive genuine female who also goes with customers and not just sit to have lady drinks with customers. That seemed to stump him. He also scanned the girls in his bar, one or two of whom did indeed qualify in terms of looks, age, weight and gender, but he could not bring himself to suggest or recommend either of them. I have to assume they were Drink Only girls or he got an unspoken vibe from them that the idea of leaving the bar with me at some point in the evening was just not an acceptable option for them. I have no idea which or if it was something else.

On to Thermae.

Again, I got plenty of smiles and even 2-3 cautious reach outs from quite a few above average lookers in the place. My first stop was with a cutie sitting on a barstool who spoke English well, smiled and chuckled at my small talk intro. Yes to BBBJ but a reluctant and timid ok to the idea of a CIM finish. Absolute No to BBFS. I didn't bother including the all-important CIP part. 3,000 baht for Short Time, no budging. She was enticing, had a good look, as least as much as I could tell with her sitting on a barstool instead of standing, and seemed very enthusiastic about me taking her. But the absolute No to BBFS / CIP and reluctant response to the idea of me actually finishing a BJ orally convinced me this was going to be nothing better than a HJ with a little oral foreplay thrown in for 3000 baht even if with a very cute young lady. Which can sometimes be more disappointing to me than if we don't even get naked in the room together to have any kind of sex at all.

Second stop was a sultry, long dark-haired lady in mid 30's or so who also seemed delighted that I chatted with her. No to BBBJCIM and BBFSCIP, no money mentioned so I assume that was a No for even as much as 1,000,000 baht and lifetime support of her buffalo and children's children.

Third stop was a very attractive, slim but curvy, tallish, light-skinned model type with fine legs under a short skirt standing in the line up near the booths who I caught staring and smiling at me as I had been making my first and second stops. So I took a deep breath to start anew and went right over to her.

Not much English but enough. Name was P-something. I stopped asking her to repeat it after the 2nd attempt to hear it clearly in that godawful environment for meeting and negotiating something of value with a Thai P4 P girl in that venue. 3,000 for Short Time and No to BBBJCIM. Do I dare to even bother ask the next question? Yep. Yes to "boom boom no condom" for 5,000 baht. "Finiish inside" I stilulated. "6,000 baht" she responded with a giggle. I smiled and said "5,000 ok if I finish inside". She nodded and said "Yes, let's go."

Naked in my room, she was hot all over but unfortunately much more passive and mechanical than her demeanor in Thermae suggested it would be. Zero touching or kissing me or minimal affection in that way other than on the Business Only portions of the package between my legs. The plain vanilla BBFSCIP was technically Real Sex alright. But I'll have to give it some serious thought about whether or not to repeat. Especially for 5000. She did not ask for Payment Upfront in the room and was fine with waiting to be paid after. Imo that is a sign that she gives her customers little to no reason to ever want or try to cheat her out of payment afterwards.

Not exactly revelatory sex. But, hey, it has been years since an above average looker, in this case a vert attractive young lady, in Thermae has so much as agreed to have Real Sex / BBFSCIP with me either upfront in the bar or at crunch time in the room and then to actually make good on the arrangement! At least technically, as it was.

As always, YMMV.

[Nyezhov]

CIT = Cum In Throat?

Right down there baby, pumping it down!

[Will Smith69]

In BKK, looking to organize a nice Party / Orgy.

Hello,

I am in BKK from May 1st to May 28.

I am interested in organizing a nice free flot Orgy.

I would organize a nice Hotel Suite or Bungalow in BKK.

Nice Pool, nice Livingroom and good food.

And I think 4-5 Girls. All Day. Any recommendation appreciated.

We share the cost. Not more than 5 Guys.

Let me know who is interested.

[PgReal]

Thanks for the insights.

Yeah, I meant the Zen on Soi 20. Mainly shortlisted it for the onsen experience, just something different I want to try at least once.

I actually came across it while researching, and then kept seeing the heavily marketed places like Poseidon, Tara, etc. Which made me a bit skeptical.

Trying to separate hype from genuinely good experiences.

Yes, I'd keep The Onsen bath in Zen on your list to try once at least.

I don't think it matters were you go, All places have good and bad girls, while it's down to the luck of the draw in many cases, I do think with experience you'll learn to choose well most of the time. Having said that you could take the same girl two days running and get a totally different experience. They could be happy, sad, sick, tired, Hungry, on period. God knows. They are all human just like ourselves, we could be happy or grumpy or narky sure too.

Last October on my trip I'd say 50% of my experiences were below par, so much so I decided I wasn't going to go back to BKK for a couple of years, I was quite disillusioned. Few months later I was back and I had a fabulous trip, I had 17 women and easily 15 of the 17 were memorable experiences. I did learn from past mistakes and used my experience, my intuition and took my time choosing.

In regard to 3 some's, I would go by the common tip, pick one girl and either let the girl herself or the Mamasan pick the 2nd girl for you, to ensure the two girls get along with each other.

If you go to the more high end joints like La Belle, they probably would act better (more professional) even if they don't particularly gel together.

A favourite place of mine for 3 some's is Pysche-dream but it's quite expensive.

Assuming you are looking for girl on girl action, then better to go for the more hardcore places (PSE) like Tulip or Snowwhite. If you aren't used to the more hardcore stuff, snowwhite is probably better, there are some cuties in there too but are well used to 3 somes, A+ action etc.

[Mogwai]

I always defer to the Toomster, I would just note that the two of the top ten BBBJ DT CITs I have had in the past few years came out of young hotties in Thermae.

CIT = Cum In Throat?

[EihTooms]

I always defer to the Toomster, I would just note that the two of the top ten BBBJ DT CITs I have had in the past few years came out of young hotties in Thermae.

That is encouraging, Nyezhov. I think. Although I'm not sure what CIT means. But I assume it could be an ordinary typo or the new AI version of auto-complete / spellcheck that creates new words and terms for us or insists upon reverting the spelling back to something we thought we had corrected already ourselves. Could be a typo of CIM? Or of COT? If it is the former, that's my thing. If it is the latter, I'd rather not bother.

I posted about my major breakthrough in getting an acceptable BBBJCIM from an above average looker I took from Thermae several months ago. I have now been with her three times, the last two at her request, and it has still only been for BBBJCIM, never for BBFSCIP, although she knows I want that. So those three sessions of DATY and BBBJCIM only might be the end of it until she agrees to BBFSCIP with me. Which I highly doubt she ever will. She is an above average looker in Thermae and that would break the Thermae Girl Rules as clearly stipulated in the Thermae Girl Handbook they distribute to the ladies at the door.

An editorial comment: the terms "above average looker" and "attractive" are the key phrases I generally apply to the ladies for all potentially challenging Thai P4P results because they are the major difference between an easy score of BBBJCIM or BBFSCIP that can he had by anyone anywhere for as little money a free and one that is a true challenge, IMO. The same with covered FS. That is also no real challenge at all with any Thai P4P girl no matter how hot she is as long as you can pony up her quote or near it.

So I have to say when someone reports on getting any of those goodies with no mention of those two aforementioned terms or the lady's approximate age and weight, I can't help assuming we are talking about a very different game and playing field than one where the players are "above average looking" or "attractive."

Just my impression of things, that is.

As always, YMMV.

[Nyezhov]

Agree with you on Thermae right up to this very week. It is a heavy lift to interact with a girl in Thermae to settle anything a man might want to do with a female sexually other than "How much, how long and how many pops. " Finding an above average looking Thermae girl who is either willing to or vaguely capable of giving a decent standard BBBJ as foreplay much less to a successful CIM finish is a major challenge. Finding an above average looking Thermae girl willing to engage in Real Sex / BBFSCIP and let's throw in extraordinary niceties like DFK and a basic understanding of penile entry into vagina without stiff legs, closed legs struggling for any amount of money is an even greater challenge, possibly as rare as a lunar eclipse. And I hate to report that the challenge from inside Thermae is starting to drift out and among the genuine females standing around outside of Thermae as well..

I always defer to the Toomster, I would just note that the two of the top ten BBBJ DT CITs I have had in the past few years came out of young hotties in Thermae.