Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

​One of the most important factors when looking for dates in Medellin is the amount of time you plan to spend there and the number of women you actually connect with. The more women you meet and maintain friendships with, the more opportunities you will have for dates. Consequently, the more date opportunities you have, the better rates you are usually going to get.

So what you are saying is that it is a numbers game like pretty much anything else.

​However, if you are looking for long-term companionship, it is a completely different story. If you need someone around consistently because you enjoy her conversationand she understands thatshe will likely charge you for the dedicated time you are spending together rather than a standard date. Because of this, you are always going to pay a higher rate compared to someone living in Medellin who has three or four hundred different options available to them. PN.

Why wouldn't a person just get a normal girlfriend instead of a hooker if that is what they are after.

[Triple Darknes]

Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.

My brother in Christ the simplest way is to move down here. I don't know how much you travel but pick a place that resonates with you and go there. At this point I'm not sure if you're trolling.

I think I went over this in the Santo Domingo Board. I'll say getting semipros is much easier there than in Meddy. Go back and read my posts about semi pro hunting in Santo Domingo.

Assuming you're serious I'd say try to monger in the states where you speak the language fluently and know the culture. If you go to regular strip clubs and are able to pull girls out then you'll be ready for semi pros abroad. It's all about developing the Monger eye. Right before you develop the Monger eye most girls develop the trick eye.

An example of the Trick eye is I was walking in Spanish Avenue in Punta Cana and I saw a girl in a restaurant who I assumed worked there. I was literally on the way to the Banco Popular ATM and she came out of the restaurant asked me standard questions Keep in mind I had no plans to fuck her she just looked cute. Anyway we talked and we got down to negotiations. She left 2 hours later with 2500 pesos. She had the Trick eye she knew I was a monger so she was down to make a deal with her first trick of the day.

You said you started mongering internationally in 2023. You need to develop the trick smell, This shit is a lifestyle.

Again even asking what do you say to a woman shows you have much much much to learn because you don't really have to ask a woman anything she'll ask you in a way.

However many Mongers you think there are understand there's way way way more hoes than Mongers.

I'll put it to you like this; if you see a woman anywhere in the world you could just ask her to fuck. Either she'll slap the shit out of you or counter with a money ask. I keep saying that Hoes are Human beings. Women get horny too; the difference is they want money and things too so if you discreetly ask a woman who is not a prostitute to fuck and either wait for a money ask or indicate that you'd be willing to part with a reasonable amount she will say yes. If you offer her way more than a reasonable amount that's not even fair if she believes you'll give it to her she'll take t.

That's all I got.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[PolloNegro]

Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.

As soon as they see me at the meat market by myself, they find any excuse to buy some small item just to get a look at me and strike up a casual conversation. Once the ice is broken, I let them know that I'd like to stop by and see them if they are available, asking what their rate is for a short time. They usually make me an offer that is so reasonable I end up doubling it.

​They are always the ones who initiate this, simply from noticing me walking back and forth to the meat market and grocery store every week. They know there is steady income coming into my home. When you live in these kinds of neighborhoods, you always have to keep your guard up. Even when you aren't watching them, they are paying attention to everything happening around them—especially the unemployed locals who have nothing to do all day but sit around and look for ways to make money. PN.

[Chico Bonito]

There are at least five 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls living in my neighborhood who watch me intently whenever I go across the street to the meat store or when I go shopping. Because of this, those young ladies are very excited about going on a date with meespecially if I can swing it and get away from my girlfriend for a few minutes. They never ask for more than 50,000 to 100,000 pesos per date, and I am in and out without ever being noticed.

Consequently, I do not actually have to go to different areas of Medellin or Parque Lleras to find women. There are women right next door who are willing to date me, especially if it makes them 100,000 pesos for a 30-minute to one-hour session.

Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.

[Chico Bonito]

First off your Chica really??? How many times can you guarantee that you'll come down flight prices be damned? Be honest with yourself.
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I got nothing for you, getting a legit girlfriend is hard because she doesn't trust you and you don't know her culture.

Don't worry, LOL. By saying "my chica" I was simply conveying that I was referring to the girl from my report the other night. I didn't mean that I think she's my girlfriend or belongs to me.

She and I have talked about how we feel, and we agreed to keep our situation "nothing serious", at least for now. We're both guarded. I don't want to fall in love, because I'm paying her. And she doesn't want to fall in love, because I am just passing through from time to time.

[Triple Darknes]

I agree, I think that's a decent price, in the context of a Tinder chica in Medellin offering that much time. Since the going rate for pros servicing sex tourists in Medellin is around 400 k for 1 hour. She's the first in Medellin that I have done an all-night or all-day escort type deal with, but I have been propositioned that in the past from some other chicas, and prices like 1 million pesos, $200 US, etc, are what they are looking for. Some of the chicas, like her, exclusively offer toda-la-noche, since they want one big cita rather than going out to try to fuck as many different guys as they can in one night.

Even back in 2023 when I first started mongering, in Cartagena the going rate for toda-la-noche with pros in Centro Historico was around 1 million pesos. To me, Cartagena seems on par with Medellin in terms of hoe prices. And toda-la-noche can mean different things to different chicas: sometimes it's 12 hours, or 8, or 6. Sometimes, in the worst cases, they really only mean 3 hours. So, in context, I think 1 million for 12 hours is a very fair deal. And 750 k even better.

As some of the other guys on here have pointed out recently and in the past, it's possible to get much cheaper than that in Colombia, and I believe them. It would be awesome if some of them would write very clear and detailed guides on exactly how to do that, like the awesome Dating Colombianas thread that Routard posted on this forum years ago. That could actually be helpful to other guys on here, and give more of us opportunities to reward the chicas who charge less.

It's also possible to get much more expensive than that in Colombia, like how KeviKev68 pointed out there are girls on Seeking charging $1,000 US for 2 hours. Now THAT is "insane".

For me, the issue with paying 1 million or 750 k isn't that I see those rates as overpriced. It's just that I simply can't afford to pay that much to someone who I would want to see more than just a couple of times per month. I don't come from money. I don't have a passive income or investments or a retirement fund to live off of. I'm just a guy who came from working class families, who is just trying to get by in the world, and yet somehow still having the time of my life.

UPDATE: I talked with my chica from the report on Whatsapp right before I left for this current Medellin trip, and told her that I wanted to negotiate an arrangement where we could see each other more times for a better price. I offered that we see each other 5 times during these next 10 days, and at the end I would give her 2 million pesos, guaranteed. She balked at that and said my offer wasn't fair. I asked her what she thought a fairer deal would be, and she said 3 million pesos. So, 600 k per night, and I accepted. We had an amazing night together last night: nothing fancy, just a casual dinner at my favorite taco spot, then passionate, affectionate sex, and arrunchando until the sun came up.

Have fun and stay safe!

First off your Chica really??? How many times can you guarantee that you'll come down flight prices be damned? Be honest with yourself.

I'd say don't bother trying to have a relationship or have a relationship and activate that western Union account. Shit tell her you´ll give her 2 million every other month whether you're there or not. Put the shit in a WA text say exactly what you want sexually.

Again I would just overnight her a couple of nights and look for other opportunities. If you pay per nut you'll come out way cheaper in the long run.

I live here and I currently don't have an actual GF I have a potential but she wants me to put 100 K into some kind of account so looks like she will be put into the pay per nut category.

I got nothing for you, getting a legit girlfriend is hard because she doesn't trust you and you don't know her culture.

But what do I know I've only been here for over 5 years. Again I would advise against this but if you were going to proceed I would give her some guaranteed money.

She has all the leverage in this situation. She saw you coming miles away. Your best bet if to find out what she likes to do and do that. Maybe you can get her a reloadable wise card Its cheaper than Western Union

Good Luck.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[PolloNegro]

Here is another scenario that can be utilized for finding women while living in Colombia. I live in a neighborhood where there are a lot of young Venezuelan women. Many of them see me going to the grocery store every week with my girlfriend, and we bring back a taxi full of groceries at least once a week. Therefore, they know that food is coming into our house. Because they see the large amount of food arriving and notice me with my girlfriend at least once a week, they know there is some kind of stable income in our home.

​There are at least five 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls living in my neighborhood who watch me intently whenever I go across the street to the meat store or when I go shopping. Because of this, those young ladies are very excited about going on a date with me—especially if I can swing it and get away from my girlfriend for a few minutes. They never ask for more than 50,000 to 100,000 pesos per date, and I am in and out without ever being noticed.

​Consequently, I do not actually have to go to different areas of Medellin or Parque Lleras to find women. There are women right next door who are willing to date me, especially if it makes them 100,000 pesos for a 30-minute to one-hour session. PN!

[PolloNegro]

I agree, I think that's a decent price, in the context of a Tinder chica in Medellin offering that much time. Since the going rate for pros servicing sex tourists in Medellin is around 400 k for 1 hour. She's the first in Medellin that I have done an all-night or all-day escort type deal with, but I have been propositioned that in the past from some other chicas, and prices like 1 million pesos, $200 US, etc, are what they are looking for. Some of the chicas, like her, exclusively offer toda-la-noche, since they want one big cita rather than going out to try to fuck as many different guys as they can in one night.

Even back in 2023 when I first started mongering, in Cartagena the going rate for toda-la-noche with pros in Centro Historico was around 1 million pesos. To me, Cartagena seems on par with Medellin in terms of hoe prices. And toda-la-noche can mean different things to different chicas: sometimes it's 12 hours, or 8, or 6. Sometimes, in the worst cases, they really only mean 3 hours. So, in context, I think 1 million for 12 hours is a very fair deal. And 750 k even better.

​One of the most important factors when looking for dates in Medellin is the amount of time you plan to spend there and the number of women you actually connect with. The more women you meet and maintain friendships with, the more opportunities you will have for dates. Consequently, the more date opportunities you have, the better rates you are usually going to get.

​However, if you are looking for long-term companionship, it is a completely different story. If you need someone around consistently because you enjoy her conversation—and she understands that—she will likely charge you for the dedicated time you are spending together rather than a standard date. Because of this, you are always going to pay a higher rate compared to someone living in Medellin who has three or four hundred different options available to them. PN.

[Chico Bonito]

Doesn't sound too bad. 12 hours for under $300 usd?
Would be better if she was younger and allowed more action but seems like a decent price.

I agree, I think that's a decent price, in the context of a Tinder chica in Medellin offering that much time. Since the going rate for pros servicing sex tourists in Medellin is around 400 k for 1 hour. She's the first in Medellin that I have done an all-night or all-day escort type deal with, but I have been propositioned that in the past from some other chicas, and prices like 1 million pesos, $200 US, etc, are what they are looking for. Some of the chicas, like her, exclusively offer toda-la-noche, since they want one big cita rather than going out to try to fuck as many different guys as they can in one night.

Even back in 2023 when I first started mongering, in Cartagena the going rate for toda-la-noche with pros in Centro Historico was around 1 million pesos. To me, Cartagena seems on par with Medellin in terms of hoe prices. And toda-la-noche can mean different things to different chicas: sometimes it's 12 hours, or 8, or 6. Sometimes, in the worst cases, they really only mean 3 hours. So, in context, I think 1 million for 12 hours is a very fair deal. And 750 k even better.

As some of the other guys on here have pointed out recently and in the past, it's possible to get much cheaper than that in Colombia, and I believe them. It would be awesome if some of them would write very clear and detailed guides on exactly how to do that, like the awesome Dating Colombianas thread that Routard posted on this forum years ago. That could actually be helpful to other guys on here, and give more of us opportunities to reward the chicas who charge less.

It's also possible to get much more expensive than that in Colombia, like how KeviKev68 pointed out there are girls on Seeking charging $1,000 US for 2 hours. Now THAT is "insane".

For me, the issue with paying 1 million or 750 k isn't that I see those rates as overpriced. It's just that I simply can't afford to pay that much to someone who I would want to see more than just a couple of times per month. I don't come from money. I don't have a passive income or investments or a retirement fund to live off of. I'm just a guy who came from working class families, who is just trying to get by in the world, and yet somehow still having the time of my life.

UPDATE: I talked with my chica from the report on Whatsapp right before I left for this current Medellin trip, and told her that I wanted to negotiate an arrangement where we could see each other more times for a better price. I offered that we see each other 5 times during these next 10 days, and at the end I would give her 2 million pesos, guaranteed. She balked at that and said my offer wasn't fair. I asked her what she thought a fairer deal would be, and she said 3 million pesos. So, 600 k per night, and I accepted. We had an amazing night together last night: nothing fancy, just a casual dinner at my favorite taco spot, then passionate, affectionate sex, and arrunchando until the sun came up.

Have fun and stay safe!

[Chico Bonito]

Yes, they don't all look like crack hoes. When I went to Centro last year to monger, I found myself a diamond (at twice the normal reported price) and we had a great time. So good that I followed up with an outcall with her the next day. (the "contratada" MILF). But even she told me that I was trusting her too much and letting my guard down too much around her, because other chicas could rob me if I wasn't keeping an eye on them. Or worse. "Girls around here will slit your throat!" That's probably an exaggeration, but it's known to be a sketchy and dangerous area. And it's also known to be a place where you can find hoes who are the cheapest of the cheap. For that, I recommend Centro for mongering, if you have the patience to find yourself a diamond, or if the average chicas around there fit within your personal standards.

[KeviKev68]

I always find it amazing how people criticize areas of a city, like Centro, and confidently proclaim that all the girls working there are "crackheads" or "low quality. " Well, the biggest adult film star coming out of Colombia right now, Helen Star, actually got her start right there in Centro. She spent over three years there doing dates for 30,000 to 50,000 pesos. But who am I to complain about that? I guess she's just one diamond out of many. PN!

I actually prefer to hang out in El Centro than Parque Lleras. Yes, there are unattractive women there but you see better in broad daylight and the girls dress sexier. You can find some super hot unicorns there.

[PolloNegro]

I always find it amazing how people criticize areas of a city, like Centro, and confidently proclaim that all the girls working there are "crackheads" or "low quality. " Well, the biggest adult film star coming out of Colombia right now, Helen Star, actually got her start right there in Centro. She spent over three years there doing dates for 30,000 to 50,000 pesos. But who am I to complain about that? I guess she's just one diamond out of many. PN!

[Triple Darknes]

Mr. Flip Flop did an excellent live today about this very subject. Again to an expat the Reddest of the Red Flags is some local claiming to not deal with her countrymen. Especially a single mother. If an american lady said Ï'm not dealing with any American Men¨even if she was a blue haired feminist lesbian that would sound weird but maybe just maybe our boy found ¨The One¨ Maybe. One thing is for certain she may have found ¨the one¨ for her.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Triple Darknes]

If he can bone her 6+ times in that period and she's really hot, it might be a decent price. Otherwise he's just paying her to pass the time with him. Or as Triple says "babysit him. ".

Price notwithstanding, the risk is that he develops feelings for her and it's never a good idea to develop feelings for a hooker regardless of what country she's in.

She's likely been doing the a prepago thing for awhile. Very smooth and developed that polished genuineness through experience.

At the end of the day he's getting what he paid for. It is what it is again a jaded monger could assume a chick claiming to want some kind of quasi relationship is setting him up to catch feelings but what do I know maybe this chick actually ¨Loves ¨ Him. I write novels but damn sounds like a nose wide open without the ability to smell plays being ran.

Either way I've been here long enough to know that sometimes you have to touch the hot stove.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Combo]

Maybe a decent price in New York or London, but that is insane in Colombia.

If he can bone her 6+ times in that period and she's really hot, it might be a decent price. Otherwise he's just paying her to pass the time with him. Or as Triple says "babysit" him. Unless he's a dashing young stud that can show her a really interesting time. In which case he wouldn't be paying anyway.

Price notwithstanding, there's also a risk that he develops feelings for her and it's never a good idea to develop feelings for a hooker regardless of what country she's in.

She "gave up" on Colombians years ago because foreigners have a lot more money. And at her age, lots of Colombians wouldn't be interested anyway. The girls always tell visiting foreigners that they prefer them over the Colombian men. They learn that trick early in the game. Tell the customer what he wants to hear.

It sounds like she's been doing the prepago thing for awhile. Very smooth and developed that polished genuine feeling through experience.