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  1. #3215

    Steakhouses. El Gaucho vs EL Toro

    Is it just me or does anyone think the El Gaucho chain of steakhouses is way overpriced and not actually that good!

    They always seem packed however and some are now open 24 hours and for breakfast too (Soi 20 BKK).

    I thought it was overpriced the first time I went on my first ever first to BKK but I had converted money in my head wrong, so only realized the real price when I got home.

    They do a special promotion the first Tuesday of the month when all steaks are half price, so stupid old me books yesterday, goes on down and then of course cop's on that yesterday was 30th June not the first Tuesday in July, duh!!

    Anyway I stayed, only had a main course and 1 beer. T-bone steak, no crust, average size, average taste. All sides are extra and not even a great selection. They wanted 900 baht for broccoli for example.

    Anyway they all automatically add a 10% tip, so it eas 4,500 baht just for that. They also try and fleece you at the end with vodka shots. They give you the impression it's on the house, but they actually charge you which I realized on my first visit after necking 3 of them. I also passed on desert this time.

    Personally I think EL Toro is a much better option, for under 3,000 baht you can have an all you can eat buffet of different steak pieces and unlimited salad bar. Must better quality and taste in my opinion.

  2. #3214
    Quote Originally Posted by JizzyB  [View Original Post]
    How much do sponsorships range?
    I am no expert but I've a few friends in BKK that will go with guys for a month for 20,000. That's for pocket money, they expect accommodation, food etc to be paid for as well.

    That's of course the start of it, if they get their claws into a guy they'll hit him for all sorts of presents (clothes, trainers, bags, phones, makeup, you name it).

    I don't get the concept from either perspective really to be honest.

    One friend in particular has never lasted a month, I think the longest she has put up with it is 3 weeks before she ran LOL.

  3. #3213
    How much do sponsorships range?

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Of course they do!

    Seeing their sponsor in person requires that they actually have to work for their money. That is why I am a In Pattaya sponsor. Girls get money when they are in person with me. Oh yeah, my regulars can hit me up in between visits if dey short money. But my regulars make it up to me. They provide me way more than a Short Time / Long Time standard Thai Prostitute session. My regulars are my girlfriends. There is not a problem with sponsorship. At least not with the way I do it.

    The Cmdr speaks!

  4. #3212
    I don't do much Short Time, the most common barfine for me is 3 hours in my condo. Even that short time period requires some understanding of the lady; overnights or multi-day barfines require even more.

    There are ladies who don't like to fuck, but need money. There are ladies driven by work ethic, and will fuck you no matter what. But one type I never consider are ladies who crave sex. Maybe 3% of all ladies are sexaholics, but its not always obvious over a relatively short time (they don't announce that they want sex). I probably have run into them, but I only know of one I have run across in the last few years.

  5. #3211
    The 18 year old pulled a fast one on me. After a couple of beers, and a couple of hours, in my condo, she announced that she had to go to work.

    And that was that.

  6. #3210

    The Cmdr's views on sponsorship

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    The favorite topic of conversation for ladies who come to my condo is their customer. Most of the complaints are about their sponsor. The guy who comes for two weeks, falls in love, goes home and sends money. It's rarely money for nothing, the lonely guy will call every day, and check to make sure the lady isn't working bar.

    That doesn't stop the lady from coming to the condo, or having a Thai boyfriend, or working freelance at night.

    Most ladies dread when their sponsor comes for a 2 week visit.
    Of course they do!

    Seeing their sponsor in person requires that they actually have to work for their money. That is why I am a In Pattaya sponsor. Girls get money when they are in person with me. Oh yeah, my regulars can hit me up in between visits if dey short money. But my regulars make it up to me. They provide me way more than a Short Time / Long Time standard Thai Prostitute session. My regulars are my girlfriends. There is not a problem with sponsorship. At least not with the way I do it.

    The Cmdr speaks!

  7. #3209
    The favorite topic of conversation for ladies who come to my condo is their customer. Most of the complaints are about their sponsor. The guy who comes for two weeks, falls in love, goes home and sends money. It's rarely money for nothing, the lonely guy will call every day, and check to make sure the lady isn't working bar.

    That doesn't stop the lady from coming to the condo, or having a Thai boyfriend, or working freelance at night.

    Most ladies dread when their sponsor comes for a 2 week visit.

  8. #3208
    I'm in an unusual situation where I have money, but I don't have time. I am doing 2 ladies a day while I am in Pattaya, but can't keep up with the demand from ladies who need money.

    Tomorrow is the last day of the month, and so a lot of ladies will wake up and realize they don't have rent money. That's when I get messages from ladies asking to come to the condo, or to "borrow" money.

    On the 1st, I go to Trat for a couple of days to install solar. I won't finish the job, but will make some progress. On my return, a lady from Bangkok will "visit" me for 3 days. Then I go to Chaiyaphum for a week to do more solar (2 jobs). Then its 2 nights in Bangkok with a Maggie Mays lady, and then back to Pattaya for 10 days.

    Tomorrow night, the 18 year old daughter comes, if she doesn't cancel. It would be weird to fuck, but what she wants is a regular gig, where she can come to the condo 4 times a month.

  9. #3207
    One of my long time ladies is nearing retirement, and is trying to convince her 18 year old daughter to get into the bar business. So the first step is gor the daughter to learn to fuck Farangs, specifically, me.

    I suspect that the daughter will cancel, I just hope that she does early enough so I can find another lady.

    If the daughter does show, I'll treat her like any other lady who comes to my condo.

    BTW, this is the second 18 year old daughter of a bargirl to come to my condo this month. Probably more coming.

  10. #3206

    How come I never got any?

    I've been to Bangkok a number of times, and every time it's a different hotel. How come I never got any p4 p with the hotel staff babes? You know why? Cause I'm ugly as hell. Game is one thing fellas, money is critical too, but if you look like garbage then well you're shit out of luck.

  11. #3205
    I am going through a weird streak where ladies are overdosing on various pills.

    Fortunately, not when they are in my condo.

  12. #3204
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Years ago a friend did P4P with his hotel housekeeper. Management learned what happened and the girl was fired. He never returned to that hotel.
    Don't shit where you eat.

  13. #3203
    Quote Originally Posted by MissMaryHinge  [View Original Post]
    Anyone had good times with a receptionist?
    I've dated hotel workers including receptionist, bookkeeper, and supervisor housekeeping, but not P4P and not from my hotel. Many girls like to work at hotels for the opportunity to meet farang for future marriage and western visa.

    Years ago a friend did P4P with his hotel housekeeper. Management learned what happened and the girl was fired. He never returned to that hotel.

  14. #3202
    Quote Originally Posted by MissMaryHinge  [View Original Post]
    What are thoughts here on experiences with hotel receptionists, or other hotel staff?

    Many young ladies working on reception are pretty decent-looking, with reasonable English skills so I wondered how disposed they could be to getting picked up. Though I can imagine they wouldn't agree to seeing guests on their own turf (unless all their colleagues do it too, LOL).

    Anyone had good times with a receptionist? Is the prevalence of such full-time workers meeting guys / guests the same as other sideliners who have regular jobs? Maybe guests with enough game and looks have a shot with some hotel staff on regular dates?

    I can imagine a guest being seen with in the lobby with obvious WGs would diminish ones chances of a date appointment, unless the target has sideline action too.
    Yes, but for regular dating, not as a hooker. No idea whether she had seen me at the hotel with other chicks or not because she worked day shift and I would bring chicks back from the discos at night. And I think that the front desk did not take IDs, so the chicks never had to go to the front desk when they were leaving the next day. Maybe the concierge was the one who took the IDs.

    I have also dated chicks who worked at hotels, but not a hotel that I was staying at, so I did not meet them at their workplace. I have also dated chicks who started working at hotel after we met. Does that count? I do not get the fetish. People are people. The person is not the job. I mean if you met someone at a 7 11 and found out she worked at a hotel, would that make a difference? Would you be like I finally got a chick who works at a hotel? There are people in Thailand with all kinds of jobs who are decent looking and speak English.

  15. #3201

    Hooking 101. Lesson 1.

    Always comment on the impressive size of the customer's member.

    It's amusing how all (or 99%) of girls say that I'm very big. I'm not, just average. Or maybe they are saying it because it's smaller than they're used to and just being sarcastic. Either way, I always laugh and suggest they're good bulls**tters. Do others hear this said at some point?

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