Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Explorer8939]

I would certainly appreciated it brother but it is not needed. I post for individuals who find my information useful. Not for the trolls and haters that have taking up permanent residence in the RANTS thread.

But if you insist, lets meet at Lipps Lounge where I can use that 500 THB note to get my dick sucked. BBBJCIM! No negotiation needed.

I know I will when I meet my objective in order to let everyone know I enjoyed myself.

This is real. I know one of the dancers, she does a boatload of BJs in the bar. Some guys are shy, and want to go upstairs for a BJ.

Sometimes a Farang lady will come in and hook up with a dancer.

[PgReal]

If I bring a girl to my room for ST for an agreed amount but I want her to stay longer and do a few extra pops is it simply a matter of offering more BHT? Or is she expected back at at the bar at a certain time and have to leave? Also how will the bar fine play into this?

Again no hard and set rules here, just ask. Some girls will be happy to stay longer for more money, some just won't / don't do LT no matter what you offer and others again will make their excuses or say they have to go back to work.

A lot is down to the impression you left on them during your initial "engagement".

[Sam Sanuk]

But on Bar Fines I have only ever paid the Bar Fine before leaving the venue and paid my provider in the room after services were delivered (regardless of my perceived qualities of the service provided).

Sam,

Do you WIN every negotiation with a Thai Prostitute that you get into and always get the lowest price or lower that is reported here in the Thailand threads?

A non respected member wants to know!

I'm with you 100% as far as paying the barfine only before leaving the bar and paying the gal separately AFTER contractual obligations have been met at a hotel or other place.

To cut to the chase, since I am (these days) an infrequent visitor. So I use numbers supplied by expat personal friends living in BKK, expat board members here, and reports by dudes who are in country a lot more than I am these days. I discount numbers posted by first timers or 1 day millionaires.

As everybody knows, I'm "old" and (accordingly) "old school". I would love to return to the days when the gals rarely asked "how much?" That will never happen again. Nor will the days when I might ask "how much? The gal would reply "up to you".

I don't look to "win" a negotiation. A "win-win" is best in my opinion. Makes for a better session.

To address how I negotiate, I let my potential target ask "how much you pay?" Since I still know enough Thai to let them know I'm not a complete idiot or newbie, I often say (in Thai) "I don't know. What do you think?" I will be quoted a price. If acceptable, I nod and say "pai duay". If not acceptable I will feint an expression of shock, smile, and say "Very expensive. Can you go for xxxx baht". At that point, a deal will be stuck or not. I won't negotiate any further. I just say "nice to meet you; maybe I'll see you again" (in Thai). I'the rather go buy a plastic bag of warm, wet chicken parts. 555 Go-go dancers, club gals, and Thermae chicks are not Nong Natt or Miss Tiffany Universe.

Sam.

[Pokler]

I think what most would advise you is that 100 baht is considered a big tip here and likely to get you the best service you're likely to receive. Most will be overjoyed to receive a 100 baht tip. Tipping 500 baht will get you no additional advantage and in fact most will just think that you don't know what you're doing.

Tipping a girl in your room for extra services is a different matter. This is where you should use that money.

Obviously this is just my opinion after living in Bangkok for 8 years. I am considered a big tipper here.

An example I recently stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel in Pattaya. After breakfast I tipped the door girl 100 baht for the service staff (did it this way because I was services by several servers). The next morning when I walked in she said good morning Khun Frank room 710? I responded chai. Most people don't tip at buffets.

I tipped the lady I barfined 1000 baht because she did what I wanted and worked extra hard to please me and be sure that I was satisfied.

If I bring a girl to my room for ST for an agreed amount but I want her to stay longer and do a few extra pops is it simply a matter of offering more BHT? Or is she expected back at at the bar at a certain time and have to leave? Also how will the bar fine play into this?

[JizzyB]

Indeed. 100 baht tip is definitely a big tip. Usually I tip 100 baht to housekeeping staff during the check-out. Rest is between 20-50 bahts depending on the service.

I think what most would advise you is that 100 baht is considered a big tip here and likely to get you the best service you're likely to receive. Most will be overjoyed to receive a 100 baht tip. Tipping 500 baht will get you no additional advantage and in fact most will just think that you don't know what you're doing.

Tipping a girl in your room for extra services is a different matter. This is where you should use that money.

Obviously this is just my opinion after living in Bangkok for 8 years. I am considered a big tipper here.

An example I recently stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel in Pattaya. After breakfast I tipped the door girl 100 baht for the service staff (did it this way because I was services by several servers). The next morning when I walked in she said good morning Khun Frank room 710? I responded chai. Most people don't tip at buffets.

I tipped the lady I barfined 1000 baht because she did what I wanted and worked extra hard to please me and be sure that I was satisfied.

[SubCmdr]

A poster said that he paid a mamasan 4400 baht to take a dancer from Crazy House. Paid in advance. Is this a way of biz only for that bar? Or is it also practiced in other bars? I'd never heard of such a thing before and I certainly would NEVER consent to that arrangement. Never!

Sure, I've had mamasan's present me with a "menu" stating a price for barfine and a lady. The barfines were in line with the going rate among the top tier joints. However, the fee for the dancer was always at least 25% to 50% higher than the norm. I'dj ust laugh and wave them off; ignore such nonsense. I'd go ahead and pay the barfine and give the dancer the "going rate". I was never turned down by a dancer for a repeat session a few days later.

A couple of reasons I would never pay in advance: 1.) The mamasan is probably taking a good piece of the down payment. (Taking what the provider should get.) 2.) Dancers have barfine quotas they must meet to get their full salary. I suspect that after the barfine is paid and as soon as they get to a hotel, some do a "runner"; return to the bar to get another sucker. No recourse available. A punter can always go back to the bar and complain, but I think most of us have an idea how that will be handled.

There is a Gentleman's Club that has you pay the fee for the room and the girl before you go upstairs. They bill it as a complete package as the VIP Room. I've never had a problem doing business that way in that particular club.

But on Bar Fines I have only ever paid the Bar Fine before leaving the venue and paid my provider in the room after services were delivered (regardless of my perceived qualities of the service provided).

Sam,

Do you WIN every negotiation with a Thai Prostitute that you get into and always get the lowest price or lower that is reported here in the Thailand threads?

A non respected member wants to know!

[SubCmdr]

And if I run into the SubCmdr one of those 500 notes is for him for all the great advise and pattaya pussy wisdom he shares.

I would certainly appreciated it brother but it is not needed. I post for individuals who find my information useful. Not for the trolls and haters that have taking up permanent residence in the RANTS thread.

But if you insist, lets meet at Lipps Lounge where I can use that 500 THB note to get my dick sucked. BBBJCIM! No negotiation needed.

I know I will when I meet my objective in order to let everyone know I enjoyed myself.

[Chocha Monger]

Aren't your being a hypocrite? Running around tipping the mamasans. You wrote this didn't you?

I was quoted 5000 Short Time and 8000 Long Time because either she didn't want to go with me or she added the Big Black Dick tax because she thought I was going to destroy her pussy (and I often do it to these Thai Prostitutes).

I previewed the talent in Nana Plaza the same way.

I think 3000 is too much to pay for short time. The freelancer I hired off of Thai Friendly to me by prostitute in Bangkok asked for 2000 short time. Street Roomers asked for 2000.

All prices in THB

How does this BBC tax work? Do they charge per inch over the limit?

[Houston Player]

Nope dead serious. It's only 15 bucks. It's nothing really if it helps pave the road to pussy heaven for me.

I think what most would advise you is that 100 baht is considered a big tip here and likely to get you the best service you're likely to receive. Most will be overjoyed to receive a 100 baht tip. Tipping 500 baht will get you no additional advantage and in fact most will just think that you don't know what you're doing.

Tipping a girl in your room for extra services is a different matter. This is where you should use that money.

Obviously this is just my opinion after living in Bangkok for 8 years. I am considered a big tipper here.

An example I recently stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel in Pattaya. After breakfast I tipped the door girl 100 baht for the service staff (did it this way because I was services by several servers). The next morning when I walked in she said good morning Khun Frank room 710? I responded chai. Most people don't tip at buffets.

I tipped the lady I barfined 1000 baht because she did what I wanted and worked extra hard to please me and be sure that I was satisfied.

[Pokler]

I assume you're taking the piss here. LOL+++.

Nope dead serious. It's only 15 bucks. It's nothing really if it helps pave the road to pussy heaven for me.

[Pokler]

Brother you are in luck there is a 500 Baht Note. You will be considered a big tipper and you will be treated like a King. No, brother you will be treated like the King of Kings.

And if I run into the SubCmdr one of those 500 notes is for him for all the great advise and pattaya pussy wisdom he shares.

[Explorer8939]

For someone who doesn't care what folks think about him, you certainly go on rants about the fact you are a clown, boy.

You aren't a respected member, in any of the forum venues you disrupt.

Posts about other posters are worthless.

In the same vein, you seem to have a hard-on for the SubCmdr.

When are you coming to Thailand?

[SubCmdr]

If you don't get two (2) nuts on Long Time what is the damn point?

Paying a girl to sleep next to you, for what? Personally I am just not that lonely. I like to sleep by myself. Long time for me has always been about getting two nuts with a girl. I just did a long time for 1000. Regular got with me after her shift. Decided to sleep over. Only one nut because she was drunk and after she used her vibrator to get herself off while I was fingering her she fell asleep. Next morning she woke up. Showered briefly; Then got back in the bed and put in the work to help me meet my objective. My BBJ was dripping out of her pussy and down her leg when she left.

The point of this story is that individuals who are claiming to get low priced services for Long Time are doing so without revealing that they are NOT bar fining girls out of the entertainment venues. So, I always take their posts with a grain of salt because they have never told the whole story since I have been on ISG reading their posts. It really doesn't matter that the daily minimum wage in Pattaya is 400/ day. What matters is what the market prices for social / sexual services for prostitutes are. Wage slaves such as the poster, always bragging about his low prices, has indicated that he doesn't understand markets. If he is truly getting below market prices, he is not doing is buy utilizing the standard venues in Pattaya or Bangkok. If he is being honest with us even he will attest to that.

All prices in THB

[SubCmdr]

Or perhaps you spent a lot of money on drinks for multiple girls, waitresses, and mamasans and they tried to maximize their income. If you act like you have deep pockets, they are going to dig as deep as they can.

Aren't your being a hypocrite? Running around tipping the mamasans. You wrote this didn't you?

By tipping over the years I've developed relationships with 2 mamasans, though one has disappeared. The remaining mamasan is my most valuable asset in Bangkok. Every time I see her I give her a tip. Every time I bar fine one of her girls, I give her a big tip. In return, she seems to give girls instructions to treat me well because her girls have been very good to me (it's not a crap shoot with these girls).

I was quoted 5000 Short Time and 8000 Long Time because either she didn't want to go with me or she added the Big Black Dick tax because she thought I was going to destroy her pussy (and I often do it to these Thai Prostitutes).

I preview the Nana Plaza bar talent by walking in, looking around and often walking out. I only sit down and buy a drink if I see something that appeals to me and she returns my smiles. For a big bar (like Geisha), I might look around for about 2 minutes. For a small bar (like Spanky's), I might be in the bar only 20 seconds before I turn around and leave.

I previewed the talent in Nana Plaza the same way.

I think 3000 is too much to pay for short time. The freelancer I hired off of Thai Friendly to me by prostitute in Bangkok asked for 2000 short time. Street Roomers asked for 2000.

All prices in THB

[Sam Sanuk]

I'm hoping there is a 500 BAHT denomination bc I plan on given them out like tossing pennies around. Tipping MMS, Hotel security, any girl whose mouth my dick has visited and anyone else who may be of use to me. I'm not a rich guy but its only 15 bucks but the drift I am getting is that its a big deal to those on the receiving end.

I assume you're taking the piss here. LOL+++.