Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[SubCmdr]

Individuals who have never been to Thailand but think they know it all often get got because they drag their Western Values into a world where they don't apply. They think being a International Trick is universal. Yes, if you keep things strictly business then it is. But that precludes that we are all machines. No emotions. Just sex machines meeting our objectives.

Is that reality?

My personal experiences is that paid companionship is just another form of International Trickin. That is why I say a prostitute provides social / sexual services. Those with bright line definitions (and there are more than a few here) I am sure use them in order to meet their own objectives. The problem becomes when they project them onto the situations of others.

Fuck a 3 day rule !

I've violated it without getting my life ruined. In fact, still seeing the girl to this day. Has it cost me a little more than normal, yes. But I also get a lot more than just pussy. That has value to me. I don't concern myself with the issue that she has clients. I still have other girls I see. I don't concern myself with if she has sponsors. That makes here more independent. I don't care is she has a husband or boyfriend. He is the one that has to deal with that.

Proclamations about the way a sex worker are generalizations and generalizations always have exceptions. Some people make a differentiation between the kind of sex worker they are. That is where you get these terms, Professional, Under the Radar, Non Pro, Civilian. Let's get one think straight. If you are giving them money and they are giving you sex. You are a Trick and she is a prostitute. The nature of your personal relationship with the girl in question can change. No one from the outside can tell you what that is. Only you can define it. Every girl in Pattaya knows that if she needs some money she can fuck for it. So, if you try to apply your western values to relationships here in Thailand, it will not serve you well.

Girls fuck for what they want, beg for what they need!

[Mr Enternational]

I'm very reluctant to say anything about the Thailand scene because I have never been there. The Popularity of the town with mongers makes me want to consider a visit.
The problem they run into is trying to get a parasocial relationship with a sex worker. To land the plane whatever you pay you should really only pay for the pussy not the imaginary pal. TLDR These girls are Friendly but not your Friend because firends don't charge people to hang out or even to have sex and they actually pay for shit half the time. If she's doing none of that with you she's not your friend.

Thailand and the Philippines are the number 1 and number 2 places where guys get into relationships or marriages with hookers. When I was in the Navy guys would bring wives back from the Philippines by the boat load for what ended up being for everyone's enjoyment.

There was a guy in a Thailand facebook group a few years back that asked how much should he give this chick every month to be his girlfriend. Some people said well I give my girlfriend this much, I give my wife that much. Then one guy said if you have to give her money, then she is not your girlfriend. The guy came back a couple of weeks later saying he offered her $500/ month a\nd she told him to fuck off.

A buddy of mine who passed away a couple of years ago said that when he got with his girl he tested her out. He acted like he was sick and she went as far as wiping his ass for him. Then he acted like he was out of money. She got a job to support them both. Then he knew he had the right one.

I would not test the water, but it can also work out. His best friend is married to a chick that used to be a hooker. (I had gotten with her many times before they were together.) She has been sticking by his side through thick and thin though. She had cancer and he stuck with her. Then he was gravely ill and almost died and she stuck by him. I enjoy seeing them together when we have gatherings at his house.

In all of these places it is so easy to meet chicks who are not hookers. I do not understand why guys insist on hitching their wagons to chicks they have to pay.

[EihTooms]

Just to make sure Im understanding correctly, do you mean 18 and older? I noticed you wrote "over the age of 18", so I wasnt sure if you literally meant over 18 or simply 18+.

LOL we absolutely do not want that. Thank you for sharing.

What I mean by it is at least 18 years after the day they were born. Over 18 years old as in she emerged from her mother's birth canal at least 18 years prior to the moment some dude offered her 2,000 baht for BBFSCIP and she agreed to do it with him for that much money. I can only assume that is also what Thailand means by it in the original Thai language as well as in the translation of it. Do they mean you need to wait for the passing of 12 Midnight into the next day or will they abide by the exact hour and minute of birth as stated on her Birth Certificate? I have no idea. I'd probably wait until after 12 Midnight to make the offer and fuck her just to be sure.

I know for certain there is no mention of anything changing or a restriction being lifted in any aspect of the Thai law regarding sexuality for some at or beyond age 20. That age is simply not referenced anywhere in the entire Title IX of the Thai Penal Code pertaining to laws regarding sex in Thailand. "Having attained the age of 18 years old", yes. 20 years old, no, there is nothing special about that age as far as Thai Law regarding sex is concerned.

[Triple Darknes]

I'm very reluctant to say anything about the Thailand scene because I have never been there. The Popularity of the town with mongers makes me want to consider a visit.

My main issue and it is one I have seen with recent sex prisoners on ¨work release¨ Meaning new guys who were burned by relationships in the west and want to try mongering.

The problem they run into is trying to get a parasocial relationship with a sex worker. At the end of the day all a sex worker can do is have sex with you. She can pretend that she is your friend for a time but at some point you'll discover that you were on the clock the whole time and probably there's a guy who gets her nonsexual time and affections for free.

Humans are not automatons so you and even the lady may decide to do some no sexual ¨hang out time¨But understand that you're essntially on the clock unless it becomes a wierd girlfriend type of situation which is far far far more expensive than any working girl. So I would say that you have to be even more business minded when hanging out platonically or just have the girl hang out for free pay for meals and pay for sex Because it's very easy to position yourself to get the RFM sob stories once you think you're hanging out with your ¨friend¨.

To land the plane whatever you pay you should really only pay for the pussy not the imaginary pal.

TLDR These girls are Friendly but not your Friend because firends don't charge people to hang out or even to have sex and they actually pay for shit half the time. If she's doing none of that with you she's not your friend.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[Mogwai]

He was real. So was that crazy asian guy who posted here, I forget his name, he would always post pics of him banging hardbodies. I was out at nana with him, what a hoot.
What was his name, damn.

Do you mean Monkeypaw? He was the same guy as ElMexicant, as far as I know.

[SubCmdr]

In order to flex over 400 THB?

Dont get ripped off by girls or taxis, unless that is what you like doing of course. If someone wants to pay 1400 baht to go to Suvarnabhumi from Pattaya, then it is their money to do what they want with.

400 THB will not even pay the funding fee on the Spot Silver trade I am in right now. I'm losing on this one. BIG! But I still may be able to get out of it with a small loss or break even. This is the reason I know so much about how markets works. It is what The Cmdr does.

Not all of us have to watch every baht, shop at Walmart and resole their athletic shoes instead of buying new ones. We have been told they do long time for 1200 THB. If it is true, good for them. I am not going to stop giving my regulars 3000 THB for long time. Nor do I care what anyone thinks of it.

The purpose of ISG is to share information on having sex with girls. Unfortunately most confuse sharing of information with commenting on what others are doing. This is sharing of information:

I decided to actually put some hard numbers on what's happening in Pattaya Venues*. So few individuals are actually posting real information in the Pattaya Reports thread.

Dragon

160 LEO; 220 Lady Drink.

1500 Bar Fine; 4000 Short Time (2 hours); 7000 Long Time (5 hours).

For a number of reasons, I didn't like the ambiance. But the line up was outstanding. Everyone knows my personal thoughts on pussy prices in Pattaya, Thailand. So, the numbers were an immediate no go. 500 THB in less than an hour. I could have gotten my dick sucked (CIM) in Lipps Lounge for that. But brother if you love after market bolt ONS and knock kneed bimbos gyrating like hoes, well this is one of your spots..

I understand why people comment on what other people are doing. Because they are not doing anything themselves. So they have no information to share.

The Cmdr Speaks!

[EihTooms]

Where is the reports? All this Penal code BS and crap can be put in the rants sections. We want to read about some reports and experiences.

An attractive, slim and curvy 40-ish year old non P4 P lady who works in the Siam Paragon mall came over yesterday, her day off, we got naked, we kissed deeply on the lips with our tongues gently touching for a while, she blew my dick, kissed and licked my balls sweetly and romantically for a long while, then I licked her beautifully shaved pussy a bit to get her natural lube flowing, made her finish once that way, then she rode me cowgirl for about ten minutes until she finished again followed by me fucking that sweet, shaved, snug pussy bareback until I finished 100% deep inside her.

Afterwards I did give her a gift of 200 baht for a taxi, the bts train or any combination of the two that gift would provide in order to take her safely from my Nana area apartment to her apartment in Phra Khanong.

I will probably repeat with her. I enjoyed her company and the sex. But likely only when my sweet and lovely university student girlfriend is busy with assignments and homework at the terrific apartment I maintain for her near the university and isn't available to meet me for similar and better sex, which was the case this time.

Hope that helps.

But rest assured the next time I see repeated misstatements of Thai law here on ISG that can only result in preventing 18 year old, 19 year old or any age over 18 year old Thai girls from legally hooking up with men who can help them and their families with much needed financial support as well as helping the men enjoy sexual pleasure with 18 year old, 19 year old or, really, any consenting female over the age of 18 in Thailand and I also notice that no one else here on the ISG Thai forums is bothering to chime in to set the record straight, I will probably post a clarification of it myself where it reasonably belongs for the widest exposure rather than in the Rants thread and might even reply to a followup question or two or three about it and leave it up to ISG Administration to decide if or where it belongs and if or how often I post whatever it is I choose to post.

And any way that turns out according to ISG Administration and Moderators is fine by me. Anyone else's opinion of it mighr be interesting, sometimes amusing but more often than not utterly immaterial.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Werqweq]

He was real. So was that crazy asian guy who posted here, I forget his name, he would always post pics of him banging hardbodies. I was out at nana with him, what a hoot.

What was his name, damn.

The guy in Pattaya? I can't remember his name either at the moment, but I always thought he and ElMexicant were the same person. I'd buy either of them a drink if I could.

[Explorer8939]

Why the fixation on 18-year-old pussy? Does the pussy turn sour and rot around 25 or 26 years old? Does the hole get too big? Or, the clit and labia grow too long and scary for you?

Is this about reliving your youthful years because you missed out on all the action in high school? It seems like any age other than 18 years just does not turn you on.

It is true that older ladies have mushy pussies. Not much feeling when you are fucking them.

[EihTooms]

TITLE IX Offences Relating to Sexuality.

"Section 286 Any person, being over sixteen years of age, subsists on the earning of a prostitute, even it is some part of her incomes, shall be punished with imprisonment of seven to twenty years and fined of fourteen thousand to forty thousand Baht, or imprisonment for life.

Any person has no other apparent or sufficient means of subsistence, and:

Is found residing or habitually associating with one or more prostitutes;.

Takes board and lodging, or receives money or any other benefit arranged for by a prostitute; or.

Take part in order to help any prostitute in her quarrel with her customer.

The provisions of this Section shall not be applied to any person who receives maintenance from a prostitute who is bound to give maintenance according to law or morality. "

So, Monger John shares his apartment with his live-in bar-girl girlfriend who also does some freelance pussy sales on Thai Friendly. One day, John gets a bit too drunk, pops a wheelie and crashes his bike. He is injured from the accident and bedridden. During his recovery, his girlfriend continues to do sex work to pay the rent, utilities, and grocery bills to support them both. Has John unknowingly broken Thai law? Can he be prosecuted for receiving board and lodging from a prostitute?

Is found residing or habitually associating with one or more prostitutes;.
..........
The provisions of this Section shall not be applied to any person who receives maintenance from a prostitute who is bound to give maintenance according to law or morality. "

It probably depends on whether or not the Thai Authorities consider it the prostitute's "moral" duty to take care of Monger John in his unfortunate time of need. You know, especially after he has picked up the tab for a few Grab food deliveries and such. Or so she might claim.

The same loophole would probably apply to the times Monger John loses his phone and can no longer use it to seek work outside of his Honey's income, his sister's sick buffalo can no longer roll out of bed to provide whatever buffalo do for Thai families, mom's broken toe and all the other calamities that so often befall Thai and Farang friends and relatives of Thai prostitutes.

However, if it turns out this living condition and repeated dependence on the kindness of prostitutes is a "habitual" behavior for Monger John, he could be in big legal trouble.

It all depends on the perception and mood of the Thai Authority that encounters the arrangement. Pretty much the same as it being up to the Thai Immigration Officer wielding the visa stamp on a given day, hour and cubicle at the Immigration office whether or not you really have all the documents and proof of financial solvency you need to get the retirement visa extension stamp in your passport on this particular day, week, month or year.

[SubCmdr]

The purpose of ISG is to share information on having sex with girls. This is the RANTS thread. The Pattaya Reports is for trip reports. Posters should know the difference.

Vendelo please make a note of this.

Have you considered taking time off from ISG?

Why should I? You want to deprive individuals of the information on venues in Thailand that I share? Please check the Pattaya Reports thread for my latest post on a venue in Pattaya, Thailand.

If you review my trip reports you will find that I know more about the Pussy Market in Pattaya, Thailand than you do.

Vendelo, I missed your report on your trip Phuket, Thailand. Could you point it out to me?

If you are up in the RANTS threads looking for good information then you are in the wrong place. The very nature of the thread itself is opinions! Those looking for good information should start in the Posts of Distinction Threads.

How you like me now?

[KinkyLink]

Where is the reports? All this Penal code BS and crap can be put in the rants sections. We want to read about some reports and experiences.

[BoobsMcghee]

However, I have yet to see or be shown by anyone here or elsewhere that the Thai Penal Code or a Royal Edict states that the act of prostitution, paying for or being paid for sex with money or anything else of value, is illegal in Thailand for consenting adults over the age of 18, the legal age of consent for virtually everything related to sexuality in Thailand and for which there is no stated penalty for anyone engaging in anything of a sexual nature, provided it is done by adults and with their consent.

Just to make sure Im understanding correctly, do you mean 18 and older? I noticed you wrote "over the age of 18", so I wasnt sure if you literally meant over 18 or simply 18+.

Meanwhile, I am sure none of us would want a misunderstanding or repeated misstatement of Thai Law here or anywhere to discourage and disincline an 18 or 19 year old from traveling to Bangkok or Pattaya in order to earn in an hour the same amount of money to feed, cloth and shelter her children and elderly parents that it would take her two weeks standing knee deep in a rice paddy in the blazing sun in her home province to earn, would we?

LOL we absolutely do not want that. Thank you for sharing.

[Vendelo]

The purpose of ISG is to share information on having sex with girls. This is the RANTS thread. The Pattaya Reports is for trip reports. Posters should know the difference.

But there are venues in Pattaya with attractive girls at much high prices than I am willing to pay. If things, move in a positive manner I may treat myself to a soapy experience. Otherwise paying the top tier Agogo prices on Walking Street make me feel I am being disloyal to my regulars, who get much less but provide me with much more than pussy.

Yet I have been accused of paying above market prices Based on what exactly?

Exactly what are you basing your statements on? If you review my trip reports you will find that I know more about the Pussy Market in Pattaya, Thailand than you do. I also pay Market Prices. Sometimes below. Furthermore I take advantage of supply and demand changes. During low season I keep my offers at the low end between 1000 - 2000. Why? Because demand is low, supply is high and girls are willing to take less just to get a customer.

Of course. But a prostitute is not selling widgets (a hard good). She is selling a service where each individual International Trick is asking her to provided a personalized service. Your analogy falls apart right out of the gate.

Have you considered taking time off from ISG?

[Chocha Monger]

TITLE IX Offences Relating to Sexuality.

"Section 286 Any person, being over sixteen years of age, subsists on the earning of a prostitute, even it is some part of her incomes, shall be punished with imprisonment of seven to twenty years and fined of fourteen thousand to forty thousand Baht, or imprisonment for life.

Any person has no other apparent or sufficient means of subsistence, and:

Is found residing or habitually associating with one or more prostitutes;.

Takes board and lodging, or receives money or any other benefit arranged for by a prostitute; or.

Take part in order to help any prostitute in her quarrel with her customer.

The provisions of this Section shall not be applied to any person who receives maintenance from a prostitute who is bound to give maintenance according to law or morality. "

So, Monger John shares his apartment with his live-in bar-girl girlfriend who also does some freelance pussy sales on Thai Friendly. One day, John gets a bit too drunk, pops a wheelie and crashes his bike. He is injured from the accident and bedridden. During his recovery, his girlfriend continues to do sex work to pay the rent, utilities, and grocery bills to support them both. Has John unknowingly broken Thai law? Can he be prosecuted for receiving board and lodging from a prostitute?