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  1. #14425

    Oh. But you left out the critical addendum and qualifiers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Here you go!

    https://legal.co.th/resources/thaila...egal-thailand/

    Now each and every International Trick Thailand can make their own decisions as to how to conduct their affairs. But remember, So and So said it was legal is not going to be allowed as a defense if a situation arises with you personally. Ignorance of the law will never be allowed as a defense.

    The Defense Rests!
    Let's quote his entire point:

    So the thing to take away from this video and to understand is Yes prostitution is illegal in Thailand but No in Thailand they are not going out of their way to regulate or in any way really scrutinize the goings-on of what happens between consenting adults behind closed doors; that is not the main thrust of law enforcement's endeavours here in Thailand. That being said, don't push it basically. I mean don't go making internet websites dedicated to this illicit activity. Again, what consenting adults do is one thing behind closed doors but again this sort of open and notorious side of things, that's where you can see some real problems and that is where I think the analysis at least in my mind that's where the analysis flows when I look at this article or when I was reading this article and that's why I decided to go ahead and make this video.
    See, you omitted the critical part that the bust he was referring to was the closure of a Thai-based website openly and shamelessly , "open and notorious", as he puts it, advertising actual sex acts in exchange for money.

    And to actually answer the very good question you were supposedly answering here about what the punishment is in Thailand for exchanging money for sex, prostitution, between consenting adults; the answer is none. In fact, Thailand goes so far in "not going out of their way to regulate or in any way really scrutinize the goings-on of what happens between consenting adults behind closed doors" they have not even created a law forbidding it, making it a crime or punishing anyone in any way for doing it as long as it occurs between consenting adults.

    He should ask the Thai attorneys in his office if they think Smiling While Driving is illegal / NOT legal in Thailand. Applying their same definition if it regarding regulations and scrutinization of prostitution, they have no choice but to declare they think Smiling While Driving is illegal / NOT legal in Thailand either.

    Has the jury reached a verdict?

    Yes, Your Honor. The jury finds the defendants Not Guilty due to lack of a crime cited by any of the authorities and witnesses or presented by the Prosecution.

  2. #14424
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Here you go!

    https://legal.co.th/resources/thaila...egal-thailand/

    Now each and every International Trick Thailand can make their own decisions as to how to conduct their affairs. But remember, So and So said it was legal is not going to be allowed as a defense if a situation arises with you personally. Ignorance of the law will never be allowed as a defense.

    The Defense Rests!
    So, they go after you if you engage in a notorious way, like some other posters said and as is written in the penal code.

    Still, prostitution in a covert way (as in private conversation between consenting adults) is not prosecuted by law (it has no punishment in the Thai legal code). So, is prostitution legal in Thailand? No, it is not. Is it illegal? In some cases (the ones in the law code). The rest of cases are neither legal nor illegal (technically they are illegal, but there are no fines or prison time for them).

  3. #14423

    Asked and Answered

    Quote Originally Posted by HSendatsu  [View Original Post]
    What exactly is the punishment for the crime of prostitution in Thailand? What is the punishment for the crime of agreeing to pay a woman (or man) for their sexual services in Thailand? Produce those punishments as written in the law code and we'll all know that prostitution is illegal in Thailand, rather than illegal in name only.
    Here you go!

    Every now and then I kind of reiterate this: yes prostitution is illegal in Thailand.

    Again I am an American Attorney, I am not a Thai lawyer, I am not a Thai Attorney. I am the Managing Director of the firm but we do provide these videos for sort of informational purposes only. I discussed with the Thai lawyers in our office, the analysis of this I am going to do right here and they have said, "yeah this is basically the situation in Thailand."

    So the thing to take away from this video and to understand is Yes prostitution is illegal in Thailand but No in Thailand they are not going out of their way to regulate or in any way really scrutinize the goings-on of what happens between consenting adults behind closed doors; that is not the main thrust of law enforcement's endeavours here in Thailand.
    https://legal.co.th/resources/thaila...egal-thailand/

    Now each and every International Trick Thailand can make their own decisions as to how to conduct their affairs. But remember, So and So said it was legal is not going to be allowed as a defense if a situation arises with you personally. Ignorance of the law will never be allowed as a defense.

    The Defense Rests!

  4. #14422
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Yes I do. I've already covered before it is called Selective Enforcement of the law.

    I shall now expand on my original thought.

    Follow the money

    Significant revenue is generated from sex tourism. This creates a vested interest in tolerating the industry rather than eradication. Crackdowns are rare because permanent closure would harm local economies and tax revenues. Have you ever met a girl working in the Entertainment industry who was not from ISAN?

    Incentives

    Incentives may be in place to cause the controlling legal authorities to focus enforcement efforts on other areas of the law other than strict enforcement of prostitution violations.
    What exactly is the punishment for the crime of prostitution in Thailand? What is the punishment for the crime of agreeing to pay a woman (or man) for their sexual services in Thailand? Produce those punishments as written in the law code and we'll all know that prostitution is illegal in Thailand, rather than illegal in name only.

  5. #14421

    Does anyone up in here understand the concept of selective enforcement?

    Again, do you have any idea why no prostitution customers were arrested in those cases and none of the prostitutes were arrested for exchanging sex for money or even for agreeing to exchange sex for money?
    Yes I do. I've already covered before it is called Selective Enforcement of the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    For those that do not understand, street enforcement of the law is not done from Ivory Towers by lay people reading the law and given their interpretation of it. Those who make the best arguments are the ones that call the Police when things go bump in the night. They have never strapped on iron and confronted a armed suspect in protection of their fellow citizen.

    What you are witnessing is called selective enforcement. When crime is being committed there are limited enforcement resources. Those resources are directed by the managers of the Police guided by the Prosecutors of the crimes.

    All Law Enforcement is selective Law Enforcement
    I shall now expand on my original thought.

    Follow the money

    Significant revenue is generated from sex tourism. This creates a vested interest in tolerating the industry rather than eradication. Crackdowns are rare because permanent closure would harm local economies and tax revenues. Have you ever met a girl working in the Entertainment industry who was not from ISAN?

    Incentives

    Incentives may be in place to cause the controlling legal authorities to focus enforcement efforts on other areas of the law other than strict enforcement of prostitution violations.

    Politics

    There may be no incentives (or many incentives) for the directors of law enforcement resources to enforce (or not enforce) the law in a certain manner.

    https://bangkokafterdark.com/is-pros...aws-explained/

    It's all in the article. I am surprised how much information that has been written in plain language about this issue that goes ignored by the strongest advocates that prostitution is legal in Thailand.

    If prostitution is legal in Thailand why hasn't anyone been able to produce a legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says so?

  6. #14420

    Where is the For Prostitution part?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Police arrested six foreign women for prostitution in the Sukhumvit area of Bangkok on May 7.

    Pic shows sidewalk in front of hotel La Maison on Soi 4.

    https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/...ion-in-bangkok
    From the report, that you didn't quote:

    The arrests took place in Soi Sukhumvit 4 after officers launched an investigation into suspected prostitution activities in the neighbourhood. According to reports, several residents complained that groups of foreign women were soliciting clients in public areas and negatively affecting the areas image among tourists.

    During the operation, police observed a group of foreign women standing along the roadside and allegedly approaching passersby, particularly foreign men, to promote sex services. Officers arrested six women at the scene, including five Vietnamese nationals and one Uzbek national.
    Yep. More arrests for the same old same old Section 5 violations in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act and similar citations in the Thai Penal Code that have been examined and discussed at length for years while nobody can find the words, phrase or sentence buried deep in any paragraph of either that makes, you know, exchanging sex for money or money for sex between consenting adults a crime or punishable by any penalty whatsoever.

    Again, do you have any idea why no prostitution customers were arrested in those cases and none of the prostitutes were arrested for exchanging sex for money or even for agreeing to exchange sex for money?

    I do. LOL.

  7. #14419

    Interesting report. But Ho hum.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Feb 2025 25 women were arrested on Soi 4 for prostitution, including 6 Thai nationals. Additionally, there were 7 Vietnamese, 11 women from Tanzania, and one from Kenya.

    https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...tourist-haunt/
    From the report, that you didn't quote:

    Those arrested in the crackdown were linked with prostitution activities. Some of those taken into custody were transgender women.

    Later, police revealed that some of the women were charged with public order offenses, such as causing a nuisance in a public place. However, four of the women were charged with illegally being in the kingdom.

    Finally, one was charged with possession of goods which have not been taxed.
    Prostitution "activities" that are clearly stated as crimes in the Thai Penal Code and Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act while actual prostitution between consenting adults is nowhere to be found?

    Causing a nuisance in a public place?

    Illegally being in the Kingdom?

    Possession of goods that have not been taxed? Would that be their 2-3 physical money-makers, the commercial use of which the government is considering to "make legal" and "legalize" so they can be taxed?

    I wonder why no Prostitution customers were arrested and none of the prostitutes were arrested for, you know, exchanging sex for money or even discussing and agreeing to exchange sex for money.

    Do you have any idea why they weren't arrested for those things?

    I do. LOL.

  8. #14418

    May 7 2026 6 Vietnamese and Uzbek women arrested in Bangkok prostitution crackdown

    Police arrested six foreign women for prostitution in the Sukhumvit area of Bangkok on May 7.

    Pic shows sidewalk in front of hotel La Maison on Soi 4.

    https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/...ion-in-bangkok
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  9. #14417

    25 women were arrested on Soi 4 for prostitution

    Feb 2025 25 women were arrested on Soi 4 for prostitution, including 6 Thai nationals. Additionally, there were 7 Vietnamese, 11 women from Tanzania, and one from Kenya.

    https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...tourist-haunt/

  10. #14416

    Oil like Material Washes up on Koh Larn beaches!

    Does not sound like it was a very pleasant experience for some swimmers.

    https://thepattayanews.com/2026/08/0...some-swimmers/

  11. #14415

    PDF editing on Android

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Would that also work with an Android device? Android devices are the only devices I currently use.
    Preview is Apple's built-in PDF Editor app. For Android, you could probably accomplish the same thing with a PDF editing app like Xodo or PDFgear. There are tons of other apps available as well, but I'm not that familiar with the Android space any longer.

  12. #14414

    Price of 1 Baht of Gold in Thailand Today

    I posted the following in November of 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I was on the street today and saw: Sell 32700 Buy 32600 a Bhat. That is a 100 THB spread between buying and selling. That is an immediate loss. But I cannot buy a shirt for 100 THB. Well that is a lie, I actually I could, just not one I would want to wear.
    The price of 1 Baht of Gold today: 69206. I am still holding!

  13. #14413

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumer  [View Original Post]
    Using Safari on iOS / iPadOS / MacOS you can open the pdf and then export to the Preview app for full find / copy / paste capability.
    Would that also work with an Android device? Android devices are the only devices I currently use.

    Well, anyway, what I did post that included a link to and the pertinent excerpts from the Thai Penal Code, a link to the version of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 that does not require downloading a file to read it as well as screenshots of the pertinent pages from that Act ought to be enough for anyone who thinks they see a phrase, a sentence or two in the Code and / or the Act that states the exchange of money for sex between consenting adults to be illegal, a crime and punishable by whatever penalty to reference and point out where exactly they think that is stated.

    Spoiler Alert: that is not stated anywhere in the Code or the Act.

    Let's see if this sticks for a couple of months until some other posters come along to grandly declare that prostitution is illegal and a crime in Thailand and, oh look, 5 more rowdy and boisterous African ladies and 3 more grabby and stubbornly determined Vietnamese ladies got busted "for prostitution" on Beach Road in Pattaya and Soi 4 in Bangkok in the middle of a crowded Mother's Day Celebration! LOL.

    Thanks again.

  14. #14412

    Use Preview to copy / paste pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    However, the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act is trickier. It's not trickier to read and clearly see that it also does not state that it is illegal, a crime or subject to any punishment at all for consenting adults who have attained age 18 to engage in prostitution. That is consistent for both documents. What is trickier is unless I have just not found an alternative it is either only available as a pdf file download, from which I have not been able to select, copy and paste individual sections or sentences for examination or, as in the format I included here; not a pdf file but in online accessible print form from which I still can't select, copy and paste individual sections and sentences.

    If anyone here knows of a source or way that can be done, let us know.

    Anyway, here is a link to that online-accessible English translation of it. And, for the hell of it, I did capture three screenshots of the pertinent Sections from the pdf file version and have added them as photo attachments below. Not a great solution. But better than nothing I suppose.
    Using Safari on iOS / iPadOS / MacOS you can open the pdf and then export to the Preview app for full find / copy / paste capability.

  15. #14411

    The Thai Penal Code and The PSP Act

    I might as well post this now that the discussion of this topic has continued. And I should correct myself for referring to a previous poster's citing of Secion 5 as coming from The Thai Penal Code. It turns out the Section 5 that was quoted stating that soliciting for prostitution "openly and shamelessly in a public place, creating a nuisance for the public" etc is illegal and subject to whatever penalty comes from The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996. The Thai Penal Code makes no mention of such a Prostitution-related activity being illegal.

    In fact, The Thai Penal Code barely mentions anything at all about prostitution as it relates to a prostitute and a customer. There is only a punishment spelled out for pimps, recruiters and traffickers as in "Whoever, in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person, procures, seduces or takes away for indecent act the man or woman with his or her consent, shall be punished with imprisonment of one to ten years and fined of two thousand to twenty thousand Baht" in Section 282. And then there is the stuff about it being illegal for someone over the age of 16 to "subsist on the earnings of a prostitute" with an elaboration of when and how exceptions are made for that law as well as for someone who "habitually" subsists on a prostitute's earnings, taking his or her money, getting involved in her job as though he / she is her business partner and so on. See Section 286.

    Other than that, The Thai Penal Code has virtually nothing to say about what happens between consenting adults as it relates to sexuality, paid or not.

    Thai Penal Code.
    Thai Criminal Law.
    TITLE IX
    Offenses Relating to Sexuality


    https://www.thailandlawonline.com/ta...and-penal-code

    .........
    Section 277 Whoever, has sexual intercourse with a girl not yet over fifteen years of age and not being his own wife, whether such girl shall consent or not, shall be punished with imprisonment of four to twenty years and fined of eight thousand to forty thousand Baht. If the commission of the offence according to the first paragraph is committed against a girl not yet over thirteen years of age, the offender shall be punished with imprisonment of seven to twenty years and fined of fourteen thousand to forty thousand Baht, or imprisonment for life.
    ..........
    Section 282 Whoever, in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person, procures, seduces or takes away for indecent act the man or woman with his or her consent, shall be punished with imprisonment of one to ten years and fined of two thousand to twenty thousand Baht.

    If the commission of the offence according to the first paragraph is occurred to the person over fifteen years but not yet over eighteen years of age, the offender shall be punished with imprisonment of three to fifteen years and fined of six thousand to thirty thousand Baht.
    ..........
    Section 286 Any person, being over sixteen years of age, subsists on the earning of a prostitute, even it is some part of her incomes, shall be punished with imprisonment of seven to twenty years and fined of fourteen thousand to forty thousand Baht, or imprisonment for life.

    Any person has no other apparent or sufficient means of subsistence, and:

    Is found residing or habitually associating with one or more prostitutes;
    Takes board and lodging, or receives money or any other benefit arranged for by a prostitute; or
    Take part in order to help any prostitute in her quarrel with her customer,
    The provisions of this Section shall not be applied to any person who receives maintenance from a prostitute who is bound to give maintenance according to law or morality.
    It's easy to quote from and examine every sentence of The Thai Penal Code to discover that there is not one sentence in it stating that it is illegal, a crime or subject to any punishment at all for consenting adults who have attained age 18 to engage in prostitution.

    However, the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act is trickier. It's not trickier to read and clearly see that it also does not state that it is illegal, a crime or subject to any punishment at all for consenting adults who have attained age 18 to engage in prostitution. That is consistent for both documents. What is trickier is unless I have just not found an alternative it is either only available as a pdf file download, from which I have not been able to select, copy and paste individual sections or sentences for examination or, as in the format I included here; not a pdf file but in online accessible print form from which I still can't select, copy and paste individual sections and sentences.

    If anyone here knows of a source or way that can be done, let us know.

    Anyway, here is a link to that online-accessible English translation of it. And, for the hell of it, I did capture three screenshots of the pertinent Sections from the pdf file version and have added them as photo attachments below. Not a great solution. But better than nothing I suppose. So get a magnifying glass, zoom in and enjoy.

    Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act.

    Sections 1 thru 13 are the ones that address questions of punishable crimes in Thailand related to Prostitution:

    https://www.dwf.go.th/uploads/Downlo...0BE%202539.pdf

    As is the case with the Thai Penal Code, the "procures" part obviously refers to pimps, recruiters and traffickers and not ordinary customers, as becomes clear if you read everything related to "procuring, seducing or taking away" someone for the purpose of prostitution even if the pimp or procurer becomes one of that trafficked prostitutes customers.

    Otherwise, as is also the case in the Thai Penal Code, there is no mention of criminal activity or punishment for having sex for any reason, including in exchange for money, with any consenting adult over the age of 18.

    If you see a sentence or two in either one of them that states otherwise, please cite it so we can all read it become enlightened.
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