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  1. #15360
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman64  [View Original Post]
    Polaris, Ikebukuro.

    So for sweet kiss I would not recommend and with all the other options I wouldn't bother trying again. Weather she just didn't like me, or wasn't used to foreigners I don't know, but this one was a bust for me.
    Good honest reviews. Thanks.

    In the future, it would help if you broke up your writing into paragraphs. It makes it easier to read.

    Frankly, both of those places are on the low end. I am not surprised by your treatment at Sweet Kiss. I'm more surprised you were able to have a good time at Polaris. Though if it was your first time that makes more sense.

    IMO, you would have been better served by spending 100,000 Yen and going to Kings Room in Yoshiwara. No Japanese required, and you would have had the real soapland experience with nuru PLUS multiple rounds of FS.

  2. #15359
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman64  [View Original Post]
    Hello, I recently got back from my trip to Japan and wanted to share the experiences from my adventures. I also want to thank everyone for their posts and resources that helped me on my way, especially TravelerX. I'll start with my visits and I'll leave my other thoughts for later. I may have to split these up as I was there for a little over 2 weeks.

    Polaris, Ikebukuro...
    If you want the full soapland experience, just go to one of these high class soaplands where 120-minute session is the only service they offer. Etoile is top tier for anyone who doesn't speak Japanese, if you're east asian, I recommend Parfait Lupinus.

    You can touch the girl and have another shot if you wanted to BTW, sessions over 60 minutes should allow at least 2 shots. My general rule for soapland is just do 60 minute session for a regular / cheap soaplands unless you know the girl. If you can stomach the cost, do 120+ at a high class soapland and just enjoy the whole thing. The girls at cheap soaplands are used to offering 60 minute or less sessions so they sometimes don't know what to do during the longer sessions either. High class soapland girls are used to longer sessions and know how to kill the whole 2 hours, and trust me, they do not waste anytime.

  3. #15358
    I'm looking into SIMS again, as I will be travelling to Japan next week. Last year I was there I bought a data only SIM which lasted a month, and allowed me to use Line, Whatsapp, Google maps etc. But no telephone or SMS.

    This time we're travelling around SE Asia also, so I'm thinking might get an eSIM instead, that covers multiple countries. This site is useful: https://esimdb.com.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHours  [View Original Post]
    Line works over the internet as you say, you don't need a Japanese phone number. Whatsapp and Telegram can also be used.

    I usually buy a Japanese SIM at Tokyo airport, and ask the staff to install it for me.

  4. #15357

    Curious, are you Asian and handsome?

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for sharing your experiences about these two options. In a way, you got something new out of each visit. Great sex at one, mat play at another. At 33k ($260) for 90 minutes, the price is within reach for many readers. I hope you find your girl and have many more new memories.

    Oh I don't pick at random, I use intel. I knew about THC Hasumi because my friend made love to her first and gave the thumbs up. So, I saw her and confirmed it too. Same for GGR Kurea. Same for ETO Hinata. I used Intel to see them each.

    It's the same way you knew to go into Shibuya Galaxy, where they actually have young girls. Many shops do not!

    Nanase on the other hand, she has a full hardcore video ad. She is the girl in the video. So, when I picked her she actually looks as good as her ad. Unlike 95% of shops, Gingira has hot girls who have reasonable ads. Rein, I knew her from JAV and she was exactly the same girl. Booker even confirmed it was her. For copyright or other reasons, many ex-JAV girls change names. Or, some girls don't want to be associated with JAV anymore.

    The only fs shop I really TOFTT with is TAE since the girls are cheap and if I really like them, the 2 hour rate is very good (50% more cost for 100% more time). When it comes to tips, I tip them the same for 2 hours and they're happy. It was their idea to book 2 hours. Even when she changed shops, I can schedule her. I don't even know what her new shop is, but she "books" me herself so that her time slot is reserved for me. I don't ever interact with her booker since she trusts me and knows I will 100% show up. If you no-show, the girl is on the hook for the booking fee (some portion of her rate), so don't do that. Whereas when you've repeated a girl enough, she knows you'll make it.

    If You Can't Tell, Keep Her
    Whereas oppai pubs cost 1/10th what fs costs per girl, and they send you 2-4 girls. Luxe sends 2-3 girls, Hosekinobako sends 3-4 girls. Meaning I have gotten 2 girls at Luxe and 4 girls at Hosekinobako, and so have many others. I can chat with them, tease them a bit, lick their tits, kiss them, then say 'next girl' in the span of 10 minutes. Over and over, even if I find them hot. If they are extra hot and look at me the right way (i.e. the Vibe Check), I keep them. Beginners should generally keep a girl if they genuinely like a girl. It doesn't matter if there might be a slightly hotter girl later, you guarantee yourself a fun time and there is Vibe too to consider. If a girl smiles, laughs, and acts as-if you are handsome, it no longer matters if it's for real or she's pretending. If you can't tell, keep her!

    Another friend recommended THC Imaru but she was on my backup list and I was too busy with OTC to see her in the end.

    OTC
    When you get along with a girl, it is possible to take her out on dates. It's about $100-$200/hr for most girls, $50/hr for one girl. It really depends on a lot of factors. The $50/hr girl actually did it for $18/hr as part of Douhan Shukkin (I would then go to her shop afterwards), but to skip that part and "just date" I felt $50/hr was more fair and I wanted 4 hours so this was the way to motivate her. It was win win since she keeps 100% of it and I just want a date, someone to sightsee and eat lunch with.

    I would actually not recommend Douhan Shukkin for oppai pubs or hostess clubs unless you are willing to spend big, since those girls are pros that have gone through training to milk you for more money. Whereas with a girls' bar girl, it was cheap. I was actually skeptical if there was some catch, but maybe I got lucky. It was something like $18 for an hour date.

    As I mentioned with Red Dragon, I got "free" dates by being a girl's regular at her shop but it's not really free in the sense that I spend money on her at the shop so she gives me freebies OTC. Red Dragon is expensive, so again I would not recommend unless you really are a fan of some girl and willing to spend. Any oppai pub or hostess club has that potential. The hotter girls work for higher end ones that will charge more.
    I'm curious, are you Asian? Are you youngish, fit, and handsome?

    I'm also curious how good Japanese you need to have to have some game.

    I think we all want to be like you!

  5. #15356
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman64  [View Original Post]
    Hello, I recently got back from my trip to Japan and wanted to share the experiences from my adventures. I also want to thank everyone for their posts and resources that helped me on my way, especially TravelerX. I'll start with my visits and I'll leave my other thoughts for later. I may have to split these up as I was there for a little over 2 weeks.

    Polaris, Ikebukuro.

    Sweet Kiss, Yoshiwara.
    Thanks for sharing your experiences about these two options. In a way, you got something new out of each visit. Great sex at one, mat play at another. At 33k ($260) for 90 minutes, the price is within reach for many readers. I hope you find your girl and have many more new memories.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooky  [View Original Post]
    I just don't get how, out of the dozens of girls, you manage to pick one, and then she turns out to be a winner? (lol, I am envious). (insert wink emoji here)
    Oh I don't pick at random, I use intel. I knew about THC Hasumi because my friend made love to her first and gave the thumbs up. So, I saw her and confirmed it too. Same for GGR Kurea. Same for ETO Hinata. I used Intel to see them each.

    It's the same way you knew to go into Shibuya Galaxy, where they actually have young girls. Many shops do not!

    Nanase on the other hand, she has a full hardcore video ad. She is the girl in the video. So, when I picked her she actually looks as good as her ad. Unlike 95% of shops, Gingira has hot girls who have reasonable ads. Rein, I knew her from JAV and she was exactly the same girl. Booker even confirmed it was her. For copyright or other reasons, many ex-JAV girls change names. Or, some girls don't want to be associated with JAV anymore.

    The only fs shop I really TOFTT with is TAE since the girls are cheap and if I really like them, the 2 hour rate is very good (50% more cost for 100% more time). When it comes to tips, I tip them the same for 2 hours and they're happy. It was their idea to book 2 hours. Even when she changed shops, I can schedule her. I don't even know what her new shop is, but she "books" me herself so that her time slot is reserved for me. I don't ever interact with her booker since she trusts me and knows I will 100% show up. If you no-show, the girl is on the hook for the booking fee (some portion of her rate), so don't do that. Whereas when you've repeated a girl enough, she knows you'll make it.

    If You Can't Tell, Keep Her
    Whereas oppai pubs cost 1/10th what fs costs per girl, and they send you 2-4 girls. Luxe sends 2-3 girls, Hosekinobako sends 3-4 girls. Meaning I have gotten 2 girls at Luxe and 4 girls at Hosekinobako, and so have many others. I can chat with them, tease them a bit, lick their tits, kiss them, then say 'next girl' in the span of 10 minutes. Over and over, even if I find them hot. If they are extra hot and look at me the right way (i.e. the Vibe Check), I keep them. Beginners should generally keep a girl if they genuinely like a girl. It doesn't matter if there might be a slightly hotter girl later, you guarantee yourself a fun time and there is Vibe too to consider. If a girl smiles, laughs, and acts as-if you are handsome, it no longer matters if it's for real or she's pretending. If you can't tell, keep her!

    Another friend recommended THC Imaru but she was on my backup list and I was too busy with OTC to see her in the end.

    OTC
    When you get along with a girl, it is possible to take her out on dates. It's about $100-$200/hr for most girls, $50/hr for one girl. It really depends on a lot of factors. The $50/hr girl actually did it for $18/hr as part of Douhan Shukkin (I would then go to her shop afterwards), but to skip that part and "just date" I felt $50/hr was more fair and I wanted 4 hours so this was the way to motivate her. It was win win since she keeps 100% of it and I just want a date, someone to sightsee and eat lunch with.

    I would actually not recommend Douhan Shukkin for oppai pubs or hostess clubs unless you are willing to spend big, since those girls are pros that have gone through training to milk you for more money. Whereas with a girls' bar girl, it was cheap. I was actually skeptical if there was some catch, but maybe I got lucky. It was something like $18 for an hour date.

    As I mentioned with Red Dragon, I got "free" dates by being a girl's regular at her shop but it's not really free in the sense that I spend money on her at the shop so she gives me freebies OTC. Red Dragon is expensive, so again I would not recommend unless you really are a fan of some girl and willing to spend. Any oppai pub or hostess club has that potential. The hotter girls work for higher end ones that will charge more.

  6. #15355
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHours  [View Original Post]
    Line works over the internet as you say, you don't need a Japanese phone number. Whatsapp and Telegram can also be used.

    I usually buy a Japanese SIM at Tokyo airport, and ask the staff to install it for me.
    Hey Zero, did you get the SIM that included voice, or just the data + SMS one? I got one from Mobal, at that point in my trip I had to go to a shop in the Mark City shopping center in Shibuya. That's because I wanted the voice plan included, for the sake of the Japanese phone number. If you want that then you have to show up with your passport in hand. Otherwise you can set up online, IIRC.

    Anyway it got me out of my room and chance to explore, I combined it with a trip to Galaxy Shibuya strip / peep show club. (insert thumbs up emoji here).

  7. #15354
    Yes I agree, it's fascinating, and very different to western culture. The host bar scam seems accepted and a familiar story to Japanese people.

    I also have wondered about the training in emotional service. I have only been with one girl in Tokyo, last year, from TAE. She made me feel so loved, it felt so real. I think. Actually I'm sure. It was all contrived.

    Is a great subject to study!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooky  [View Original Post]
    A crazy video.

    The Great Happiness Space: Tale of an Osaka Love Thief.

    https://youtu.be/tiKWvgxLYe0

    This 2006 documentary is about the "Host Bar" industry. If you have been to Kabukicho in Shinjuku, you have seen the billboards featuring young guys with frilly haircuts and makeup, they look a bit like girls.

    The idea is for these young guys to get young women to come into the bar and get them to fall in love with them. They manipulate them to spend lots of money in the bar, which gives them commissions. The host and owner of the club they filmed talked about "reading" the girls and giving them what they wanted, in an emotional sense..

  8. #15353

    The Great Happiness Space: Tale of an Osaka Love Thief

    A crazy video.

    The Great Happiness Space: Tale of an Osaka Love Thief.

    https://youtu.be/tiKWvgxLYe0

    This 2006 documentary is about the "Host Bar" industry. If you have been to Kabukicho in Shinjuku, you have seen the billboards featuring young guys with frilly haircuts and makeup, they look a bit like girls.

    The idea is for these young guys to get young women to come into the bar and get them to fall in love with them. They manipulate them to spend lots of money in the bar, which gives them commissions. The host and owner of the club they filmed talked about "reading" the girls and giving them what they wanted, in an emotional sense.

    It shows how the young men are trained in the art, but that it applies to women in the industry as well. Even to the extent that for some venues, there are written and DVD instructional materials. For soaplands (and other businesses), it includes "technical" sex training in addition to the "emotional" service that is being sold.

    What got me curious was Traveler X mentioning the Oppai clubs are hoping you will fall in love with one of the girls and then will be emptying your wallet into their hands. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole when I saw there is actual training for the art of how to get the clients to fall in love. What to say, gestures, etc etc

    The most compelling parts of the documentary were about how the big spender chicks had all gone into prostitution in order to give more money to the hosts they were in love with. (Sad) The young club owner supposedly (in 2006) was making $50,000 USD+ per month. Other top hosts in his club were making $10,000+.

    In Japan, the emotional services are emphasized equally or more than the sexual services, in contrast to the overtly transactional mode seen in the US.

    I would like to access any training materials eg books, DVDs used in the business, escpecially about the emotional services.

  9. #15352
    I just don't get how, out of the dozens of girls, you manage to pick one, and then she turns out to be a winner? (lol, I am envious). (insert wink emoji here)

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]

    Gingira
    I will now review Gingira Kurea. She is a very petite and young girl, face is nice, very chill, very DTF and submissive. Pussy high tier. Small tits, big round ass. She is very foreigner friendly.


    Gingira Kurea (jgirl) - HYA. Young, 20s, petite, well-proportioned, white skin with light bikini tan on ass. Great round ass, A or B cup tits, maybe 5'2", straight stylish hair. Submissive, very supportive and patient, would repeat.
    https://gingira.jp/profile/KUREA Gingira Kurea Ad

    If you are respectful and clean, every option may be open. Her ask is reasonable and repeat friendly, but I don't know what others get.

    Note that with the above Gingira link, you can replace KUREA with any name (ex: NANASE) to go straight to a girl you like. KUREA is full circle for international customer, anyone who wants a tiny girl with big ass, small tits, good young face is welcome.

    .

  10. #15351

    Summer Trip

    Hello, I recently got back from my trip to Japan and wanted to share the experiences from my adventures. I also want to thank everyone for their posts and resources that helped me on my way, especially TravelerX. I'll start with my visits and I'll leave my other thoughts for later. I may have to split these up as I was there for a little over 2 weeks.

    Polaris, Ikebukuro.

    Polaris had mixed reviews on google and I can't remember if I had read anything on it here but it was pretty close to where I was staying and they had an English website so I was pretty sure I wouldn't have any problems. I went in the evening on a weekday, it didn't seem too busy. They accepted me in right away, the man spoke a little English and they had the price menu printed out as well. I took 70 min for 33,000 yen. I was taken to a waiting room with high back chairs so it was pretty private. The man then brought me some tea and three pictures of girls to choose from. I chose a girl with long black hair and big tits because that was the only thing I had to go on. A few minutes later the man takes me up stairs to meet the girl and she takes me to the room. She was tall probably 5'6 and had a voluptuous type body, thick in all the right places but not fat, and pretty in a more normal type way rather than a model. The room was smaller than expected, no mat play or nuru was offered as there was no space for it, just a bed and the bath area but it was nice and clean. She made a point of noting that a condom would be used, I don't know if that's foreigner specific or if there have been complaints in the past but I assured her it was fine. She helped me undress then scrubbed me down and led me to the bath. After she washed herself she hopped in with me sitting facing me and started a kind of hot water bbj for a bit. Afterwards we dried off and headed to the bed. We made out for a bit she began licking around and fondling, returning for some more bbj then applied the wrapper and rode rcg until completion. Afterwards she cleaned me up another soak and we chatted for a bit until my time was up. Her English was pretty good, I know a little Japanese and she used her phone for the rest. Overall while not exactly what I was expecting for my first soapland the girl was pretty and friendly, and the shop was easy to find and use.

    I would recommend and repeat.

    Sweet Kiss, Yoshiwara.

    My next outing I wanted to try Yoshiwara. I wasn't ready to blow my budget on one of the premium places, so I checked around for reviews and settled on Sweet Kiss. Their price was 33,000 yen for 90 min (including the 7 k foreigner tax) I went for the longer time because I was looking for the full nuru soapland experience. They once again let me in with no problem but this place had more of a tough guy vibe than Polaris, they showed me three photos of girls, once again I had nothing to go on so I accepted the girl they recommended. They took me to a waiting room that was some regular chairs and had baseball playing. A group of three Japanese customers came in shortly after me but payed me no mind. I was taken up to meet the girl, she was more a typical Japanese woman late 20's probably and honestly not really my type. Definitely some panel magic at this store, though I don't know about other girls. She also had a few scratches and bruises which put me off. She spoke little English so I had to get by on what I could understand. She led me in and told me to undress so I did and went the the washing stool. She began cleaning me but when I touched her she brushed my hands away saying no touch. I oblige and let her finish then get into the bath while she sets up the mat and lube. Once ready she has me get out and lay face down on the mat and she goes to town slipping and sliding. This was the highlight, she went through her routine and I found it pretty enjoyable she finishes me by hand on the mat, then has me wash off in the bath while she puts it away. At this point I probably have 50 or so minutes left in my session she has me dry off and has me lay on the bed. She then lays next to me and does nothing for 5-10 min so it was rather awkward as I'm not sure if I try and touch her she will tell me to stop again. At this point I'm pretty much done, so I get up and get my phone to use the translate app to talk a bit, but she wasn't much interested in that either so I tell her thank you but I don't need the rest of my time and head out.

    So for sweet kiss I would not recommend and with all the other options I wouldn't bother trying again. Weather she just didn't like me, or wasn't used to foreigners I don't know, but this one was a bust for me.

    I'm starting to see these are pretty long so I will add more later.

  11. #15350
    Thanks for the recommendation.

    I'm hoping to visit Casanova Soaplands during my trip.

    Will try to get Mio!

    Quote Originally Posted by JackieMarlo  [View Original Post]
    I had a great time with Mio at Casanova Soapland in Tokyo. I had to contact over whatsapp to make an appointment and they suggested her of 3 that they showed. It was a good choice, Mio is cute and well built, but more importantly to me honestly her mat play skills were great and her cowgirl riding was even better. She had endless enthusiasm and stamina, to the point that she managed to ride three loads out of me in the 80 minutes, which is a lot for me. I did get the full mat play experience with rimming too, plus the hot bath and shower. We even had time for some talking and we shared a cold drink in between rounds 2 and 3. For 55000 Yen with guaranteed multiple pops I was really happy. Way better than what I used to get at why Shirt IMO.

  12. #15349
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Can someone clarify if Delivery health includes CFS? For example Tokyo Style and TAE? Included in the price or separately negotiated? I understand they can't of course say on their website.
    Tokyo Style spells it out, then draws a picture in case that doesn't work:

    https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/service/

  13. #15348

    Tokyo Style Service

    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    Juli at Tokyo Style is great, she has all the features that make me love and appreciate J girls.

    - Pretty.

    - Well built, nice boobs.

    - Very feminine.

    - Puts the man first.

    - No expectations, she's all service.

    When it came to the meeting itself, I had a great time:

    - accurate pictures, maybe better in person.

    - decent English, able to converse and break the ice.

    - she really turns on once you get out of your clothes and dim the lights.

    - VERY GOOD massage skills.

    - good nuru skills.

    - long and talented tongue for rim job.

    - nice teasing bareback blowjob with CIM.

    Damage was 46000 yen for 2 hours with nuru.

    https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/therapists/Juli/
    Can someone clarify if Delivery health includes CFS? For example Tokyo Style and TAE? Included in the price or separately negotiated? I understand they can't of course say on their website.

  14. #15347
    Juli at Tokyo Style is great, she has all the features that make me love and appreciate J girls.

    - Pretty.

    - Well built, nice boobs.

    - Very feminine.

    - Puts the man first.

    - No expectations, she's all service.

    When it came to the meeting itself, I had a great time:

    - accurate pictures, maybe better in person.

    - decent English, able to converse and break the ice.

    - she really turns on once you get out of your clothes and dim the lights.

    - VERY GOOD massage skills.

    - good nuru skills.

    - long and talented tongue for rim job.

    - nice teasing bareback blowjob with CIM.

    Damage was 46000 yen for 2 hours with nuru.

    https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/therapists/Juli/
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  15. #15346
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Yes, it's how I had a long time impression that Chinese girls were low service. They were never going for repeat customers, so they didn't try enough. 20 years later in the US, friends told me that some of them were actually not that bad. But I found out they meant the older pre-MILF Chinese girls. The girls in their 30s and aunties in their 40s. People generally agree the older cgirls have skills and service, they even offer bb. Just close your eyes.

    Nowadays, the younger Chinese girls at least LFK and the ones who make it to the US know to have a good attitude. But the good ones are all expensive.
    Right, the Chinese exchange students in Japan do offer decent service but that's because they are here long term and want repeated customers. Most shops in Japan rotate the girls every couple of weeks since that's how long their visa typically last, so you can't really expect better service from these places.

    In the US (NYC), the Chinese girls do offer decent service, but I still prefer Japanese girls since I get treated so much better for speaking just a tiny bit of Japanese to them.

    Physical appearance wise, I prefer Chinese girls since they are taller in general, but honestly, Japanese girls in general just offer much better service than anyone else.

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