Manila

[Old And Ugly]

Manila or suburbs like Makati or burgos? I am not a club person and prefer to hire freelancers for short time. I don't mind visiting safe, decent brothels, but that doesn't seem to be something easily available in Manila. So with freelancers in mind, where should I stay during the first ever trip?

Thanks to anyone who can advise.

No brothels in PH, girly bars are not clubs. If you're doing freelancers only, than it doesn't matter where you're staying, you just go local.

[Hazzzd]

Manila or suburbs like Makati or burgos? I am not a club person and prefer to hire freelancers for short time. I don't mind visiting safe, decent brothels, but that doesn't seem to be something easily available in Manila. So with freelancers in mind, where should I stay during the first ever trip?

Thanks to anyone who can advise.

Makati is your best bet if you enjoy nightlife and easy access to bars.

City garden grand is tried and tested. Best value for money IMO. I'm hotel next door is bit more premium if you prefer that.

Both are guest friendly and walking distance to P Burgos and Ayala.

[Omigawd]

Manila or suburbs like Makati or burgos? I am not a club person and prefer to hire freelancers for short time. I don't mind visiting safe, decent brothels, but that doesn't seem to be something easily available in Manila. So with freelancers in mind, where should I stay during the first ever trip?

Thanks to anyone who can advise.

[BaddHabbit]

Catholics must suffer thru a vigil, usually of either 5, 7, or 9 days and nights. The family of the dead person is expected to receive other family and friends, often times at night, and host them until they decide to leave. The body is often put in a casket with a glass covering over the face / bust area, and family / friends from near and far will visit and feel a need to touch the body. The body will lie there for the number of days of the vigil.

The custom of holding a wake comes from ancient traditions, and quite literally refers to the idea of staying awake / keeping watch. One of the primary reasons for this is to have a period of time to confirm that the person genuinely is dead. Back in the middle ages laudanum was used as a painkiller and it was not recognised that a side-effect could be the dramatic could be the dramatic lowering of heart rate, to a point where someone might appear to be dead. Many people were indeed buried alive because of this and so the week became a time period to see if the person would wake. That is why the culture is also that there must always be someone by the coffin at all times on a 24 hour basis throughout the period of the wake.

There was also aspects of spiritual protection for the recently dead, but the primary reason does appear to be to ensure that the person was actually dead.

[Old And Ugly]

Catholics must suffer thru a vigil, usually of either 5, 7, or 9 days and nights. The family of the dead person is expected to receive other family and friends, often times at night, and host them until they decide to leave. The body is often put in a casket with a glass covering over the face / bust area, and family / friends from near and far will visit and feel a need to touch the body. The body will lie there for the number of days of the vigil. Your girl's family will need breads and coffee for the duration for visiting family. The funeral home will prepare the body depending on the number of days you request for the vigil. It costs more to have extra formulin for a body that will be room temp for 9 days than for 5 days. At the end of the vigil might be a memorial service, and then the burial. Have seen instances of a family asking for the 5-day prepared body, planning a 5 day vigil. Then they change their minds and go for 9 days. THEN they wonder why the thing starts stinking on day 6 or 7; they will call the funeral home to come out to the house to fix that (don't be surprised if the funeral home guy shows up with a canister of Glade air freshener, and charges them p5000 for the call).

Its time-consuming, exhausting, and expensive for the fam.

Yes you're right, I forgot about the bread and coffee, probably in between the serious eating sessions, she was buying that also.

It was probably pastries, she calls bread everything baked (doughnuts, muffins, scones, etc). Also out of a sudden even if they don't have money, expenses doesn't seem to matter no more, somehow money magically appears out of thin air. I was "invited" but I turned it down, not curious enough, I guess.

[WestCoast1]

In regards to the dead relatives reports, from a week ago: it's unbelievable but here in my GFs extended family over the past 2 weeks at least 5 or 6 people died, WTF, like one every other day some young ones too. Unrelated causes, and different households. No, I didn't had to help anyone, but all I'm saying is that sometimes the girls may be telling the truth, even if it sounds farfetched. GF had to cook some cheap food and take it there whenever her family turn came up at all of them, it appears that all the neighbors and relatives are having a party around the stiff one's coffin. They even kept one of them for 2 weeks before burial until some distant son came back home. As far as I knew Christians traditionally burry the dead after 3 days, but this is totally weird.

Catholics must suffer thru a vigil, usually of either 5, 7, or 9 days and nights. The family of the dead person is expected to receive other family and friends, often times at night, and host them until they decide to leave. The body is often put in a casket with a glass covering over the face / bust area, and family / friends from near and far will visit and feel a need to touch the body. The body will lie there for the number of days of the vigil. Your girl's family will need breads and coffee for the duration for visiting family. The funeral home will prepare the body depending on the number of days you request for the vigil. It costs more to have extra formulin for a body that will be room temp for 9 days than for 5 days. At the end of the vigil might be a memorial service, and then the burial. Have seen instances of a family asking for the 5-day prepared body, planning a 5 day vigil. Then they change their minds and go for 9 days. THEN they wonder why the thing starts stinking on day 6 or 7; they will call the funeral home to come out to the house to fix that (don't be surprised if the funeral home guy shows up with a canister of Glade air freshener, and charges them p5000 for the call).

Its time-consuming, exhausting, and expensive for the fam.

[Locamotive]

She has been left standing at the altar (of prostitution) before. She has been catfished into meeting gents either at their condo, or a public place; gents who never showed up. There is a small slice of fellas out there who seem to have nothing better to do than bring a girl to a mall for a meet-up that the fella is maybe not even in Phils for. She's left holding the bag. She wants proof that you are at the mall. She'll direct you to a landmark or particular store there, and want a short vid-call. Worse, even if you show yourself to be there, she might only then start to prepare to meet you (shower, makeup, hair, transportation, etc). The vid call is also good for you, so you can see if its the same girl from FB, and if she's put on some weight since you saw her pics (pix may be years old). You should consider a vid call before you agree to meet.

A bar girl I know who does a bit of freelance on the side had a bad experience recently. This girl is cute and a good lay so nothing wrong there. She was in a bar recently as many do she sits and reads the room to see if any single men looking. City Garden she says can be a good spot. Three men approached her, nationality I don't remember but not important. They drank awhile and suggested back to the room. All of you? Yes. She said that was a bit scary but all seemed nice and fairly handsome and the money was very tempting. We are going to store get some supplies so meet us in 20 at lobby of hotel. I went and waited 1 hour but they did not show, surprise surprise. Dear. For one thing unless they are porn stars or very creepy, men aint having sex with other men in the room, in porn yes, real life it would be strange but possible I guess. Did they pay your tab before they left. NO. Then you should have stayed put. If they were cheap Charlies and were really planning a foursome I doubt you would have been paid. In the future if more than one guy at a time wants you to go with them. Run. Come on you aint green in this business. Consider yourself lucky, this could have been very dangerous. Does the mamasun let multiple men barfine you in the bar, I'm guessing no. I know you really needed the money but that should have sounded fishy. Why she even told me about this was after all those drinks and food she was broke and no fare. I've known her for years so I Gcashed her 1 k to get home.

Crap like this does happen to them too and its the bad apples that makes it hard on the rest of us.

[Old And Ugly]

In regards to the dead relatives reports, from a week ago: it's unbelievable but here in my GFs extended family over the past 2 weeks at least 5 or 6 people died, WTF, like one every other day some young ones too. Unrelated causes, and different households. No, I didn't had to help anyone, but all I'm saying is that sometimes the girls may be telling the truth, even if it sounds farfetched. GF had to cook some cheap food and take it there whenever her family turn came up at all of them, it appears that all the neighbors and relatives are having a party around the stiff one's coffin. They even kept one of them for 2 weeks before burial until some distant son came back home. As far as I knew Christians traditionally burry the dead after 3 days, but this is totally weird.

[George03]

Havana is long gone. It died even before COVID.

I use GB as a meeting rather than a pick up place. Others may correct me but I don't know of any FL hangout areas. Actually several guys have asked the wrong girl and come very unstuck. Many of the girls walking around shopping are well healed and have family connections so propositioning them can lead to a very bad day.

Enjoy. G.

Thanks. My last trip was summer of 2019. It was still going then. Plenty of Freelancers, also took a regular date there since the bands were good. But I did hear it was gone, will likely bypass this mall on my next trip. I don't remember having to proposition the freelancers in my other trips however.

[PhilJoy]

I wasn't feeling the whole thing at that point, so I told her to just come down and see me herself. She kept pushing for the selfie. Eventually I said fuck it, walked across the street to Starbucks, got coffee, and left.

Probably would have done the same Yen. Seems a lot of hassle.

The vid call is also good for you, so you can see if its the same girl from FB, and if she's put on some weight since you saw her pics (pix may be years old). You should consider a vid call before you agree to meet.

Good advice Westie. A lot of those old FB pics are dodgy as hell.

Not Manila Walkers but I had the same experience from Gensan Walkers.
Unsurprisingly, I'm not a fan of Walking Groups.

Never tried walking groups G, but I have joined a few in Cebu fairly recently just to see what they were about. First bit of advice to everyone. They all seem to be public groups, so your 'friends' might see when you comment on them. I find most are geared to locals and there seems to be a lot of girls that aren't clear about their intentions. At least with the FL's on Pina, as soon as they want to chat via Whatsapp instead, you know there's a good chance you'll be in, at the right price.

_Phil.

[Yendappu]

You are right probably she has experienced no show before, all she had to do was come down of her apartment and see herself. But anyway, I am not fan of walking groups anymore, this was first / last time for the walking group girls. Just thought, I relay this information for others, so they are aware, not just great experiences but all also these ones too I guess its just part of this game.

Not Manila Walkers but I had the same experience from Gensan Walkers. References from past Walkers, photos of the hotel, photos of the room, photos of the room number, photos of me in the room, photos of this, photos of that. It was ridiculous. In the end I just said that I'm here come if you want or don't. When she arrived, she just stood in the corner, arms folded and demanded prepayment before anything happened: cash down before panties down is what they call it.

After the deed, I asked why all the dramas and she admitted that's it's very common for the girls to arrive to no guy or get ripped off by the guy then shown the door. Hence, they want to be 100% sure the guy is physically there and that he will pay. That doesn't help us though.

Unsurprisingly, I'm not a fan of Walking Groups.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Just sharing a recent bad experience from the FB Manila College girls walk group (one of two I've had from the same group). Girl asked me to pick her up from her place. I said no. I offered to book her a Grab instead, but she wasn't interested. Location was near the mall area in Pasay, so I decided to just go myself and meet her there.

When I arrived I asked where she was. She said she was still in her condo. Then she asked for my pic (I sent it). After that she insisted I take a selfie in front of Popeye's and send it to her.

I wasn't feeling the whole thing at that point, so I told her to just come down and see me herself. She kept pushing for the selfie. Eventually I said fuck it, walked across the street to Starbucks, got coffee, and left.

Not sure what the point of that whole game was, but it felt like she just wanted to leave someone hanging. Anyone else had similar experiences from that group?

Not Manila Walkers but I had the same experience from Gensan Walkers. References from past Walkers, photos of the hotel, photos of the room, photos of the room number, photos of me in the room, photos of this, photos of that. It was ridiculous. In the end I just said that I'm here come if you want or don't. When she arrived, she just stood in the corner, arms folded and demanded prepayment before anything happened: cash down before panties down is what they call it.

After the deed, I asked why all the dramas and she admitted that's it's very common for the girls to arrive to no guy or get ripped off by the guy then shown the door. Hence, they want to be 100% sure the guy is physically there and that he will pay. That doesn't help us though.

Unsurprisingly, I'm not a fan of Walking Groups.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

When I arrived I asked where she was. She said she was still in her condo. Then she asked for my pic (I sent it). After that she insisted I take a selfie in front of Popeye's and send it to her.

I wasn't feeling the whole thing at that point, so I told her to just come down and see me herself. She kept pushing for the selfie. Eventually I said fuck it, walked across the street to Starbucks, got coffee, and left.

Not sure what the point of that whole game was, but it felt like she just wanted to leave someone hanging. Anyone else had similar experiences from that group?

She has been left standing at the altar (of prostitution) before. She has been catfished into meeting gents either at their condo, or a public place; gents who never showed up. There is a small slice of fellas out there who seem to have nothing better to do than bring a girl to a mall for a meet-up that the fella is maybe not even in Phils for. She's left holding the bag. She wants proof that you are at the mall. She'll direct you to a landmark or particular store there, and want a short vid-call. Worse, even if you show yourself to be there, she might only then start to prepare to meet you (shower, makeup, hair, transportation, etc). The vid call is also good for you, so you can see if its the same girl from FB, and if she's put on some weight since you saw her pics (pix may be years old). You should consider a vid call before you agree to meet.

[Yendappu]

Just sharing a recent bad experience from the FB Manila College girls walk group (one of two I've had from the same group). Girl asked me to pick her up from her place. I said no. I offered to book her a Grab instead, but she wasn't interested. Location was near the mall area in Pasay, so I decided to just go myself and meet her there.

When I arrived I asked where she was. She said she was still in her condo. Then she asked for my pic (I sent it). After that she insisted I take a selfie in front of Popeye's and send it to her.

I wasn't feeling the whole thing at that point, so I told her to just come down and see me herself. She kept pushing for the selfie. Eventually I said fuck it, walked across the street to Starbucks, got coffee, and left.

Not sure what the point of that whole game was, but it felt like she just wanted to leave someone hanging. Anyone else had similar experiences from that group?

[Youonme]

Pure Cebuanas can be shorter and stocky, not 70 lb spinners. That's a gross generalisation though. I've met girls of all types in Cebu Province and especially Cebu City.

If you're concerned about your budget, then I'd suggest:

The big expat areas are expensive and full of temptations. Get out of town to second tier cities or the areas on the fringes of Cebu / Manila etc. There will still be plenty of girls but you won't have the high hotel, food, girl fees.

Stay in one spot. This avoids moving costs. Weekly or monthly accommodation normally offers discounts over nightly. Girls are also cheaper for return visits or F&F. As you said, night after night in the bars gets expensive. Drinks, dates etc can make simply finding a new girl every night expensive.

Identify and do what you can to reduce your most expensive line items. Mine are International Flights (travel off peak); Hotels (stay at cheap but comfortable ones that offer weekly discounts); Food (difficult in PI) and girls (stay out of bars and provincial girls are much cheaper than their big city sisters)..

I would try to stay Around Cebu or Manila since I would like to avoid another flight but I am very OK with any place and accommodation, and yes I like college slim girls (spinner type), what do you suggest is a good place for a first timer in not so common city? Like what different have they to offer? Only sure thing is that I will be free from the 9 and the 20 I have returning flight manila to my home country.