Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Paulie97]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/09/w...-war-cost.html

Only 27 billion USD is missing from this year Ukrainian budget.

During this week's corruption hearing the prosecution had to repeat to the audience the known Russian proverb (don't worry, everyone in Ukrainian government speaks Russian, and broken synthetic Ukrainian on camera), which was obtained during covert audio recording: 'If to fuck, but the queen, if to steal but the million'.

As is typical Questner refuses to engage while posting a highly biased take. Questner did Alexi Navalny die of natural causes, yes or no?

A shortfall is a spending-rate problem, not a theft problem. Ukraine's burning through cash faster than it arrives — salaries, death benefits, weapons contracts — and the twenty twenty-six allocation ran dry by mid-year. That's a math gap, not a missing pile.

Corruption explains some of it, sure — the one point two billion in procurement fraud is real. But the bulk is just a war that costs more than the budget covers. Russia spends a third of its entire federal budget on defense; Ukraine's doing the same math with a smaller economy and no oil money.

[Questner]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/09/w...-war-cost.html

Only 27 billion USD is missing from this year Ukrainian budget.

During this week's corruption hearing the prosecution had to repeat to the audience the known Russian proverb (don't worry, everyone in Ukrainian government speaks Russian, and broken synthetic Ukrainian on camera), which was obtained during covert audio recording: 'If to fuck, but the queen, if to steal but the million'.

[Questner]

https://globalinitiative.net/wp-cont...April-2026.pdf

A further case study on Ukraine examines one of the region's most significant scam call centre ecosystems. It traces the development of a highly networked illicit industry, its links to organized crime actors and corrupt protection, and the ways in which technology and crime-as-a-service may reshape the model in the years ahead. Read alongside the global and Eurasian analyses, the Ukraine report illustrates how locally embedded scam operations can acquire global reach.

[Xpartan]

Just don't forget that the capital of Donbass is actually Kharkov.

I concur. It's that very Kharkiv where killer whales tear apart poor polar bears.

Every single day.

Poor bears.

[Questner]

Late yesterday evening, Prosecutor General Ruslan Kravchenko submitted his resignation amid the investigation into the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) case "Carthage".

The case is about providing cover to multiple scam call centers (Pay 4 Scam).

[Sirioja]

You apparently didn't understand what I was intending to convey. My post was satirical and not directed against you. Ukraine would be wise to give up the Donbas if it would bring peace.

What USA tell to fuck Ukraine and suck Putin to make business with him, when after Crimea, Putin doesn't want only Donbass, but whole ex USSR, starting to attack ex DDR in Leipzig. Putin doesn't get Donetsk and his economics is going worse and worse. When robber Trump stopped to help Ukraine, fortunately Europe, not only EU, and Canada keep on helping so courageous Ukrainians who defend their land when Putin and Trump are robbers. Many Russian guys leaving Russia because they don't want to make Putin war, not Russia war, only Putin war, same than Trump with Canada, Greenland, Venezuela and Mexico.

[Paulie97]

Please read the historical documents at the end of the National Security Archives web page.

No, I'm not doing all the work here. Retirement is too damned fun. Please make your case as all I've seen so far is assertions which aren't arguments. I've already responded to the arguments those documents are most often used for when operating from the sympathetic to Russia angle. Here it is again.

In your eagerness to support your pal you overlooked my rebuttal to him.

Even though interpretations of such discussions remain contentious it's most noteworthy that such provisions were never written into any formal binding agreement. It's also unreasonable to talk about NATO expansion while ignoring the agency of the former Eastern Block countries that were eager to join.

Historians generally agree that James Baker didn't have the authority to make a binding pledge on behalf of the US regarding NATO expansion. His statements were exploratory while president Bush's administration later made it clear that nations have the right to pursue their own alliances.

And any idea of Russia as a member of the EU and NATO is a stretch to say the least given their dismal record on human rights and lack of adherence to democratic principles.

[Paulie97]

You apparently didn't understand what I was intending to convey. My post was satirical and not directed against you. Ukraine would be wise to give up the Donbas if it would bring peace.

I'm all with you on this one. I'm shocked that Questner thought you could post something against him.

[Paulie97]

How much good did sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and Russia do anyway? They mostly hurt the man on the street and lessened the role of the dollar in commerce and as a reserve currency.

Sanctions serve as a crucial diplomatic tool designed to impose costs on aggressive behavior without resorting to direct military conflict. While the humanitarian impact on the population is a valid concern, proponents argue that they limit a regime's ability to finance wars, fund terrorism, or develop banned weapons programs. And even when the ideal outcomes are not achieved, the restrictions still hinder a regime's capacity for aggression.

Regarding the dollar, while sanctions do create incentives for countries to explore alternatives, the global dominance of the US financial system makes it difficult to replace the dollar entirely.

[Tiny 12]

I see. Maybe EU will do the same for the Palestinians. So far, no takers. Will EU ask them to work on their factories? We have already seen it during the WWII. This is a pure fascist concept. We want to live in our ancestral land as I assume other peoples do. Donbass will be freed fro AFU soon. Just don't forget that the capital of Donbass is actually Kharkov.

You apparently didn't understand what I was intending to convey. My post was satirical and not directed against you. Ukraine would be wise to give up the Donbas if it would bring peace.

[Paulie97]

Edit: Your posts must be delayed. Apparently I did say that. You probably did a good job of debunking it. Im too lazy to read all that to know. Which is going to make my next post particularly hypocritical.

Well as is normal you're not too lazy to get to my posts before the ink is dry. Wink.

Though seems you may have squeezed in some vacation time recently. That's never a bad thing and I hope all is well.

[Tiny 12]

In your eagerness to support your pal you overlooked my rebuttal to him.

Even though interpretations of such discussions remain contentious it's most noteworthy that such provisions were never written into any formal binding agreement. It's also unreasonable to talk about NATO expansion while ignoring the agency of the former Eastern Block countries that were eager to join.

Historians generally agree that James Baker didn't have the authority to make a binding pledge on behalf of the US regarding NATO expansion. His statements were exploratory while president Bush's administration later made it clear that nations have the right to pursue their own alliances.

And any idea of Russia as a member of the EU and NATO is a stretch to say the least given their dismal record on human rights and lack of adherence to democratic principles.

Please read the historical documents at the end of the National Security Archives web page.

[Tiny 12]

Upon further review this all was you. We all know you are heavily invested in your anti-US, anti-war agendas, but would you like to take time to walk some of this back?

Walk back what? I don't recall claiming any of that.

Here's an estimate of more than 4. 5 million excess deaths from post 9/11 wars in which the USA had a hand. Admittedly many of the deaths were not attributable to the USA, particularly in Pakistan, Yemen and Syria. Still.

https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/...h-outlives-war

Edit: Your posts must be delayed. Apparently I did say that. You probably did a good job of debunking my sources. Im too lazy to read all that to know. Which is going to make my next post particularly hypocritical.

How much good did sanctions on Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and Russia do anyway? They mostly hurt the man on the street and lessened the role of the dollar in commerce and as a reserve currency.

[Questner]

The civilian population of Ukrainian-controlled Donetsk is less than 100,000. How about if the Europeans buy them all villas in the south of France, move them there, and pay them generous allowances for the rest of their lives? If they did everyone would come out ahead. According to Gemini Pro, deaths due to the conflict currently run 140,000 per year and global economic costs run about $1 trillion per year.

I see. Maybe EU will do the same for the Palestinians. So far, no takers. Will EU ask them to work on their factories? We have already seen it during the WWII. This is a pure fascist concept. We want to live in our ancestral land as I assume other peoples do. Donbass will be freed fro AFU soon. Just don't forget that the capital of Donbass is actually Kharkov.

[Paulie97]

Enjoy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/06/w...orruption.html

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/ukr...w_article_pos2

By the way, soon all those in higher posts in Kiev to be detained for corruption start cooperating with the prosecution since no longer be bailed out by the Regime in Kiev (yes, they even parading now in black t-shirts with a slogan 'Kievan Regime' on them). Why, because before they were bailed out with dirty money and the revolving doors worked.

Enjoy your 22 out of 100 rating (Russia) in Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) while Ukraine is at 36. Neither is good but yours is beyond dismal. BTW do you believe that Alexi Navalny died of natural causes? Blood Red has signed off on that but Comrade Tiny 12 refuses to. Good on you Tiny 12. Please continue to break ranks.