Jakarta

[Safado70]

I am an admitted Classic T2 lover. But want to try KI this round. Venues I have on the agenda based on the forum:

New Sari Ayu.

Royal.

Mega Ayu.

V Four.

Any thoughts on these or comparisons? Missing one from that list? I also see Cherry Hotel but some distance away down in Lokasari.

Any and all intel welcome.

There is MTR and Laras Ayu.

[Steve 9696]

I've had mostly good experiences at V Four at KI except for one time when I went into the room and got undressed, noticed that the girl was sneezing badly. When I asked her about it, she was honest and admitted that she had a cold and the flu. I got dressed again and went downstairs and spoke with Mama about it. She was understanding, allowed me to switch to a different girl, but was firm that the management does not offer refunds once I paid and took the girl upstairs.

I am an admitted Classic T2 lover. But want to try KI this round. Venues I have on the agenda based on the forum:

New Sari Ayu.

Royal.

Mega Ayu.

V Four.

Any thoughts on these or comparisons? Missing one from that list? I also see Cherry Hotel but some distance away down in Lokasari.

Any and all intel welcome.

[Werqweq]

There are three phases in life: you believe in Santa Claus, you stop believing in Santa Claus, and eventually you become Santa Claus. I remember a few guys on a Thailand forum asking for advice if it's possible to have sex with cleaning ladies in hotels. Don't fall for this.

Why are you trying to kill santa?

Anyway, I can do you one better: I remember guys asking if was possible to get a HJ / BJ from the women cleaning the bathrooms at malls in Bangkok.

[Werqweq]

I remembered somebody saying the spa here was actually a real spa with
real massage, and not just crappy massage and expensive hj/fs,
so went down to the bunker and have a look.

Receptionist spoke English well and explained everything clearly to me.
For the normal massages, you could not choose masseuse, but if you
choose the more expensive "making love" stuff, you could.

Having now visited the spa at Classic a handful of times, including my last day, where I did not have time to enjoy the spa before / after the massage itself, as I had to rush it a bit to T2, before on to the airport, let me correct some minor discrepancies in my previous report.

It's now become a place I enjoy going to regularly, and I imagine one might even visit it for just the spa/massage, and not sex at t2/t5.

1) You go down to the reception and get a numbered bracelet, same as in T2/ T5. No need to say / select anything here.

2) Go inside, and a guy will show you to your locker and hand you a pair of shorts and flip-flops. Take of your shoes, put on the flip-flops, and go into one of the nearby locker rooms, changing into the shorts, then leaving your clothes in the locker before locking it.

3) Go further inside, to the sauna/pool area. Take a shower, then use the facilities if you like. The facilities are decent, and they have one-time usage shaving kits too (you will need to ask for that). If you like hot / cold / steam sauna / hot sauna, it's a nice way to relax (price if just spa: 120 k. Included if you pay for a massage or sex), and I've been enjoying it, though would prefer the hot water to be several degrees hotter. On the weekends, you may see quite a bit of Indonesian guys there, but on the weekdays I saw only a couple.

4) When ready for massage or sex, ask the pool reception for a new pair of shorts and robe to wear, take a shower, and change into the new shorts and robe. Then walk further inside to the massage / sex area.

There are two receptions in this area:

5a) The one nearest the benches where the girls are sitting on display, is where I think you select / register the girl for sex. Never tried any of them.

There are much fewer girls here than at T2, just 5-20 depending on the time / day as far as I've seen, and quality is no better IMO. I guess the attraction is that you can relax in the spa area, bang a girl, perhaps continue to relax, hang out with your friends if you are one of those that has that, etc. Perhaps I'll try sometimes, but so far, I've only been walking past them on the way to the regular massage.
Other than that, it's cheaper to go to T2/ T5, though the spa opens earlier, at 13:00 if I remember right.

There are often some guys sitting by some of the tables with their laptop open in this area. I had let my Grab Feel membership lapse (or possibly a girl reported me for fingering her too hard, even though it was unintentional and caused by her motorbike going over a big pothole. I'm not sure exactly what happened to my membership), and asked if one of the guys with the laptops could help me. Showed him my phone with the grab app, he did some stuff on this laptop, and when I left Classic that day, I again had the Grab Feel option in my app. He also said that Gojek would soon be introducing a similar option called Gojek Touch, and to see him about that next month.

5b) The other reception in the area is where you book the normal massage. You can't pick from a line-up, but if you know the number / name of someone, you can ask for them.

If you pick the 270k massage with male masseur, I think maybe you can get the massage in the pool/spa area, as I assume that was what was happening when I once saw an indonesian guy laying on one of the sunbeds while another dude in uniform was massaging his legs.

Some decent choices for the 400k massages with women are "Lilly", or number "69", but with the exception of one woman, who was also the prettiest one by far, all massages were good. The pretty girl with the bad massage was one of the few cases in my life where I did not tip for massage.

I mostly did the dry massage. Best to specify that in the reception (though one time the woman there did not pass it on to the massage woman, so had to stop her before she started putting on the oil), but hopefully all women working there can also do dry massage.

The dry massage is not like Thai massage, but if you like Thai massage I guess you will enjoy this too. Unlike the massages in Thailand, which distributes the time somewhat fairly between your front and back, all the massages I've had in Jakarta seem to spend most of the time on the back.

The normal massage is an oil massage, similar to other oil massages. I tried once just to see how it was.

After massaging the back for about an hour or a bit less, they will ask you to flip over on your back and she will massage you front a bit, then asking if you want "extra". They call it "therapeutic massage".

The price for this seems to be mostly fixed 300 k, and I was not offered a reduced price upon declining, but of course you can try. The price for this will be added to your bill as normal.

In total, I did that three times, but selecting to cum only one of them (no particular reason). After the first time, I found out I enjoyed them enough, so said "yes" when offered the next two times. It's not comparable to the "naad kasai" in Thailand, but good luck finding anyone who actually trained in that.

Perhaps it could be called a high level handjob? It's considerably better than the average HJ you pay 500 baht for in Bangkok, and I enjoyed it for 20 minutes or so each time, even though I saved my cum for later.

There is also an option to extend the massage session for an extra 30 minutes at the end of the massage, which will add an extra 150k to your bill. Only found out about that when one of the women asked me if I wanted to extend, as I had not yet finished during the HJ. I didn't plan on finishing however. Information I shared with her after she had HJ-ed for 15-20 more minutes, swapping hands/arms a couple of times and saying she was getting hot. We shared a mutual laugh about it. Or possibly I laughed alone.

Sex is normally not offered here I think, but my last day, while I was relaxing with the competent HJ, before planing on going up to T2 for a quick 6. 314/6/4 (6. 314 inches, 6 minutes, 400 k) before going to the airport, I got to talking to the woman massaging my dick about something other than where she was from and how long she had been here (usually I just relax with my eyes closed during the massage).

Found out she had been single for two years, not had sex in those two years, liked big dick, but had never tried, went out with her girl friends, but never went back home with a guy, etc. , etc. Talked some more about how it might feel for her to try with a non-Indonesian dick and eventually offered her a free ride on the Werqweq-wagon, but she was worried about how she could charge me enough, because I did not bring with me any money in to the massage room, right?

Her worry was lost on me, as I suggested she could then simply not charge me much. She thought that was a bit funny as I must obviously be joking, but informed me she could not add too much to the bill, as there would be problems then. Already she had offered to add an additional 300 k to my bill for her to take of her clothes so I could see her 30 year old MILF-body, (I declined), so I wondered why she was worried she could not add enough to my bill. How much was this wench thinking I would be willing to pay?

Eventually she asked how much extra I would give her, and I told her that I could go up to T2 and pay around 370 to bang a girl there. She informed me that "we are very different". At first I thought she was referring to the difference between her (no sex in two years) and me (fucking anything I can), but eventually understood she was referring to the Classic girls having a "minimum of three customers every day".

I didn't interject that they were also young enough to be her daughter, with deliciously tight pussies and small bodies, and she should be flattered if I was willing to let her ride this horse for free.

So anyway: sex is obviously possible, but easier if bring cash for it, and they seem to expect a bundle of it (maybe less if you are not as ugly as I). The robe has some small pockets you can use for that cash and your phone.

I'm guessing 1 jt would do it, and there is something nice about banging the woman who has been massaging you for the past hour, rather than leaving the restaurant and go eat somewhere else, even if it's just a floor up, or even just out in the hallway (the girls sitting there on the benches, waiting for sex customers).

Guessing the sex would be a bit better too, as maybe they don't get banged as often, and you've already spent an hour together by that time, before any sex. Or whatsapp and invite them to meet later I guess would work too.

Might be an option for those with money to burn and wanting bigger, older, milf-type women than what you get at T2/T5/etc. Never bothered to asking for anyone here by name, but all I got assigned by the reception looked pleasant enough, and I'd bang any of them if I was already naked with them in the room. All the massages, except the one, were also fine enough.

6) Afterwards, you will normally shower, and at least in most of my my cases, the woman washed the oil of my dick and balls in the shower, though perhaps if you do oil massage and your whole body is full of oil, she will not do that.

Then you exit, and walk back to the spa / sauna area, unless you want to book another massage or sex with one of the girls sitting on the benches right away.

7) Back in the spa area, take a shower again if you want to use the spa facilities again. I said I had just showered after massage, but they seem to be strict about making sure people wash before entering the pool (good! So just go shower again even if you just finished showering after the massage.

When you are done for the day, you can ask for a new pair of dry shorts and robe to use after the shower, for walking back to the wardrobe.

After this, on my last day, I thought whether I should relax in the hot pool for 20 minutes, then peacefully go back to the hotel for my suitcase and be on the way to the airport, or instead rush up to T2, which had recently opened for the day, try to quickly find a girl, and possibly miss my plane.

I rushed up to T2. My mamasan-friend saw me and tried to push two girls for threesome on me, and seeing I was hesitant, said she had one more girl to show me, wait wait. I waited, but she came back five minutes later and said other girl still getting her makeup done, wait, wait. I didn't have time to wait however, so selected on of the girls for a normal non-threesome session.

Had a nice enough experience with her, though I had to rush it a bit and cursed myself for not having gotten up and started packing etc. an hour earlier.
She asked me afterwards why I did not want threesome, so told her I did not have much time today. Told her also that her friend was not so attractive to me (similar body, fine enough, but face not pretty to me).

I had also banged a new michat girl who had arrived while I was busy packing my suitcase earlier, so thought to myself that one was enough for a quick in and out now.

Told the t2 girl to to hurry up and get dressed afterwards, left her the roughly 140k I had left in smaller bills as tip for the cip and what was good, though short service. Then cursed myself when I had to open another 100 k bill for paying the 5 k fee for exiting, which I had forgotten about. Considered whether I could go up and ask the girl, presumably sitting on the benches again, if she could give me back one of the dozens of 5 k bills I had given her in tip, but that'd be too silly for even me.

[June Fly]

I do not remember, but it was not MTR. It was the first bar (sans v-four) if you enter KI from the entrance gate. She wasn't too bad about it, and said she had to call some "manager" dude, and have me talk to him about it over the phone, as she was not "a real mama" (or something like that. Don't know. I was there very early.) Manager/boss-dude was not helpful at all, though he spoke decent English. Said if the girl had gotten naked already, and possibly started a bj, then that was basically it, and I could not get any refund or change girl.

It was my only genuinely bad experience at KI so far, but I'm not sure I've even been there as many as 10 times so far though. Maybe around 10 times it is.

LOL. What a circus.

Yeah, I'm sure they'd either arrive much later, or indeed arrive after being banged all night by some other dudes. Anyway, that timeframe was of no interest to me, but apparently other girl doesn't want to or cannot stay past 9 pm. She suggested she find some other, presumably more whorish, friend of her for a more normal overnight thing, but other friends not too much my type from the photos, so never happened.

I've had mostly good experiences at V Four at KI except for one time when I went into the room and got undressed, noticed that the girl was sneezing badly. When I asked her about it, she was honest and admitted that she had a cold and the flu. I got dressed again and went downstairs and spoke with Mama about it. She was understanding, allowed me to switch to a different girl, but was firm that the management does not offer refunds once I paid and took the girl upstairs.

[Flyboy 2000]

Attaboy, you scored it. I've met a few cute hotel staff girls during my travels and got numbers with some of them. Since they were worried about losing their jobs if seen, we usually met outside the hotel instead.

Ditto, hotel workers are by and large expressly forbidden from entering the rooms of guests unless it's part of their job.

In Singapore a few years back I clicked with an Indo who managed the spa at a fancy Western hotel, swapped WhatsApp numbers to stay in touch and meet up later, but she couldn't come back to my room at that hotel. The only way we managed its was on a subsequent visit when I stayed at a different hotel, and even then she was a bit 'wary' when visiting because a lot of staff move between hotels and she was worried about somebody recognizing her!

[Werqweq]

Which bar was the Mama from?

I do not remember, but it was not MTR. It was the first bar (sans v-four) if you enter KI from the entrance gate. She wasn't too bad about it, and said she had to call some "manager" dude, and have me talk to him about it over the phone, as she was not "a real mama" (or something like that. Don't know. I was there very early.) Manager/boss-dude was not helpful at all, though he spoke decent English. Said if the girl had gotten naked already, and possibly started a bj, then that was basically it, and I could not get any refund or change girl.

It was my only genuinely bad experience at KI so far, but I'm not sure I've even been there as many as 10 times so far though. Maybe around 10 times it is.

I've had terrible interactions with the Mama at MTR as she always have this stupid frown on her face. I've been with one of her girls for a ST and everything was normal as I expected it to be, the next night I had tried to book the same girl for an overnight LT and somehow they delivered a different girl to my Hotel. I informed the driver that it was the wrong girl and I had to get the driver to relay the information back to Mama. I even had the girls name and picture and was frantically messaging the Mamasan on whatsapp whilst on the other side I was using google translate with the driver and the Girl. They instead turned around and confronted that it was the right girl and that I should just pay and get over my complaints, they then said that the girl I was asking for was unavailable and was on her period (or something like that, it was some bullshit excuse or something). Of course I was not going to accept that and I told them to piss off and went back straight to my Hotel. The driver also tried to pull my arm as I walked off but stopped following as we approached the Hotel. Thank fuck.

Feel bad for the other girl though, she just got caught up on this mess.

LOL. What a circus.

Also, 6 AM to 9 PM?? 6 am in the morning? So it would be a daytime thing? Doubt they would arrive at 6 am, but then again it would make sense if the girls a partying out all night until sunrise and needed to spend the day to reset only to repeat the whole thing over again.

Yeah, I'm sure they'd either arrive much later, or indeed arrive after being banged all night by some other dudes. Anyway, that timeframe was of no interest to me, but apparently other girl doesn't want to or cannot stay past 9 pm. She suggested she find some other, presumably more whorish, friend of her for a more normal overnight thing, but other friends not too much my type from the photos, so never happened.

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[June Fly]

I've had sex with a cleaning lady in a hotel one time. I fell for her. She was lovely.

Attaboy, you scored it. I've met a few cute hotel staff girls during my travels and got numbers with some of them. Since they were worried about losing their jobs if seen, we usually met outside the hotel instead.

[NRandom940]

I've had sex with a cleaning lady in a hotel one time. I fell for her. She was lovely.

I had a hotel cleaning lady proposition me in El Salvador once. I wasn't in the mood to do it though.

[Mogwai]

There are three phases in life: you believe in Santa Claus, you stop believing in Santa Claus, and eventually you become Santa Claus. I remember a few guys on a Thailand forum asking for advice if it's possible to have sex with cleaning ladies in hotels. Don't fall for this.

I've had sex with a cleaning lady in a hotel one time. I fell for her. She was lovely.

[June Fly]

How do I get invited? I go to Jakarta at least once per year.

There are three phases in life: you believe in Santa Claus, you stop believing in Santa Claus, and eventually you become Santa Claus. I remember a few guys on a Thailand forum asking for advice if it's possible to have sex with cleaning ladies in hotels. Don't fall for this.

[June Fly]

What could be the total cost of bringing them back to the hotel for overnight?

For KI Bars, it's 5 vouchers, 2 M for 8 PM8 AM, and 7 vouchers, 2. 8 M for times to take out a girl before 8 PM. I think Classic is fixed at 7-8 vouchers, about 2.5-2.8 M, for overnight.

[Apprenticed]

My theory is that she may have been hoping that I would pay to take her to my hotel overnight even with the hope of turning me into a long-term client. I know some guys have an ongoing relationship on the side with girls, where they provide cash on days the girls can't work due to periods, feeling sick and send flowers to them on special occasions.

What could be the total cost of bringing them back to the hotel for overnight?