Jakarta

[Abraxas]

Hello,

I've been off the scene for many years, and have started again a couple of years ago. I normally use dating sites (Tinder, SA) to find non- or semi-pro girls, some with regular jobs, some temporarily unemployed, etc. I subscribed to SA a few months ago, chatted on WA / Telegram with a few gals from Java, and took one (an innocent-looking, hot nympho) to a beach holiday overseas. Great experience, I was hoping to meet her again in Indonesia soon but she's discussing a long-term exclusive arrangement with a dude.

I do have a few other contacts but I haven't tried them and my time in Jakarta, Yogya and Bali is limited due to time and work commitments, so I was hoping that fellow members could share via PM some tested contacts. I am keen to share my own, of course. So that they can be tested by those with more time and patience than me. All good looking girls in the 25-35 age band.

I also have contacts from a couple of other Asian countries. Happy to share.

[Axel Heyst]

The girls you are about to meet are from across the spectrum. Indonesia has limited opportunities for young people and for some this is the only option available. To be sitting on the other side of the world dictating what is acceptable in your dealings with them is a tone deaf to their reality.

The truth is that Jakarta doesn't care about you. It's a big place and the machinations of sex for sale here are not something some huffing and puffing on a forum like this are going to influence. It's a liquid enough market that you can quite reliably predict how your base experience will play out. The trick is being able to supercharge that experience with a little empathy and finesse and starting your experience from an absolute position is probably not going to get you there. Loving Jakarta girls is probably your best starting point.

Hey OS, I totally agree with most of what you are saying. Let's say two people meet in some venue, they get along, establish a good vibe and establish some level of feeling between themselves, if so, they can then reach a mutually agreeable understanding and everybody is happy. That is the only way to go IMHO. It is called p4 p, but it is not slavery. I would hate it if it were that because I really like the girls I am with, and I try to convey those feelings to all my prospective girls before we ever go upstairs or back to my hotel. I would never force a girl to do anything she is not comfortable with. Never! But likewise, I am under no obligation to take a girl upstairs, take her to my hotel room, or have anything to do with her if I feel she is not inclined towards making me happy.

So when a BBBJ, for example, is the expected level of service in a place like Classic, I do not feel the need to even inquire about it and I will be disappointed and most likely end things in the room, then and there if I do not receive it. I don't even bother going to a place like 1001 anymore even though they have some very pretty girls because I believe CBJ's are the default level of service, but if I did go there, I would ask the girl I was interested in about it before agreeing to take her upstairs. And if her answer was CBJ only, I would politely end the conversation and move on.

But putting all that aside, performance is definitely linked to what the man and the girl think of each other and that is why establishing good vibes in the beginning is very important. Classic happens to be a very controlled environment, and management expects their girls to perform in a more prescribed way than say girls hanging out independently at a disco or nightclub. Still, when a Classic girl likes her customer, things are more likely to be better, a lot better than if she does not like him or is neutral about him.

I like to think that all my girls enjoy having sex with me or at the very least view me as a desirable customer. Some may prefer being in some other occupation, but that is not my problem. I treat them all with respect and I expect them to treat me likewise.

A. H.

[Offshore Swell]

Why the hostility OS? Are you having trouble with your bowel movements again or are you just an ornery, old, deusche bag. In any case, I am glad you are excited about something. LMFAO.

OS is just a little puzzled about this constant stream of announcements that punter ABC will be coming to Jakarta and that they will be going to establishment A and Establishment be. It is most likely extremely exciting for the proponent, the anticipation and the research, but it doesn't turn the dial for a reader. There's also a dedicated page for those who want to announce they are coming to Jakarta.

The reality is that it isn't like the movies. You jump in a crappy old taxi at the airport, filled with complementary mosquitoes and wind your way through the rubbish strewn streets to a hotel somewhere that probably reflects your budget, where you begin your long anticipated holiday.

The girls you are about to meet are from across the spectrum. Indonesia has limited opportunities for young people and for some this is the only option available. To be sitting on the other side of the world dictating what is acceptable in your dealings with them is a tone deaf to their reality.

The truth is that Jakarta doesn't care about you. It's a big place and the machinations of sex for sale here are not something some huffing and puffing on a forum like this are going to influence. It's a liquid enough market that you can quite reliably predict how your base experience will play out. The trick is being able to supercharge that experience with a little empathy and finesse and starting your experience from an absolute position is probably not going to get you there. Loving Jakarta girls is probably your best starting point.

[Axel Heyst]

So to summarize:

1 You are coming back to Jakarta. - Yes we are all extremely excited about that.

2 A CBJ is totally unacceptable. - You tell them Tiger.

3 You love Jakarta girls and look forward to getting it on with them. - They probably aren't as excited about this as you are but some money may be able to persuade them to ramp up the affections. Don't forget to let them know the CBJ is unacceptable. Google translate will be able to help you with this.

Why the hostility OS? Are you having trouble with your bowel movements again or are you just an ornery, old, deusche bag. In any case, I am glad you are excited about something. LMFAO.

[Offshore Swell]

Thanks for clearing this up. A CBJ is totally unacceptable. I will be back in CGK next year and I am looking forward to getting it on with the girls. I love Jakarta girls.

So to summarize:

1 You are coming back to Jakarta. - Yes we are all extremely excited about that.

2 A CBJ is totally unacceptable. - You tell them Tiger.

3 You love Jakarta girls and look forward to getting it on with them. - They probably aren't as excited about this as you are but some money may be able to persuade them to ramp up the affections. Don't forget to let them know the CBJ is unacceptable. Google translate will be able to help you with this.

[Axel Heyst]

I always carry with me a 500 idr coin when going to Classic. I'm still waiting for the day when a girl that gave me bad service will ask me for a tip, but when that day comes, I will triumphantly produce my coin and politely offer it to her. It's 500 idr because nobody has given me anything smaller, though I'm hoping to one day get my hands on a 50 idr coin.

As to your question, in 50+ girls (maybe close to 100 now?) over the last two-three years, I have met exactly one girl who insisted on condom for BJ at Classic. That was at T5, I think two years ago. Apart from that, I'm not sure if I have ever even been offered it for BJ, including last two months.

Thanks for clearing this up. A CBJ is totally unacceptable. I will be back in CGK next year and I am looking forward to getting it on with the girls. I love Jakarta girls.

[Werqweq]

Good report Exotic, but I have to ask you one question: were all your sessions in T2, T5, and Hotel Travel CBJ's? I assume that if you did not receive a BBBJ, the girl did not give you BBFS. I hate the tipping ask BS too especially when a girl gives sub-par performance. "Hey, here is a tip darling; give better service and you will get a better tip. " The only other thing I can add is; there are other bordellos in CGK where better service is still the default. These bordellos will cost more money, however.

I always carry with me a 500 idr coin when going to Classic. I'm still waiting for the day when a girl that gave me bad service will ask me for a tip, but when that day comes, I will triumphantly produce my coin and politely offer it to her. It's 500 idr because nobody has given me anything smaller, though I'm hoping to one day get my hands on a 50 idr coin.

As to your question, in 50+ girls (maybe close to 100 now?) over the last two-three years, I have met exactly one girl who insisted on condom for BJ at Classic. That was at T5, I think two years ago. Apart from that, I'm not sure if I have ever even been offered it for BJ, including last two months.

Also thanks to OS for another great read.

[Offshore Swell]

Brother, how to score an invite for this Grab Feel feature?

They're a bit cautious about handing out grab feel invitations to non believers. Apart from his own membership which as mentioned, was gifted by management at Hotel Travel, OS only knows of two other members, Werqweq and Asian Rain. The service requires a degree of discretion from users and westerners already attract attention in places like Jakarta and can get a bit overexcited with the groping is what OS was told. Those other two members may know more.

OS would suggest a trip to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself kitted out in some good religious robes and then present yourself at Classic as an observant kind of chap and just keep asking. Once they think you are OK they will let you in on it.

The robes you will get used to, despite looking like a total dork. They are actually quite handy for snapping off a sly dump if you feel the need to relieve yourself but no toilets are around. You just stand there admiring the buildings on the other side of the street before sidling away from a discreet brown pile where you were standing.

Good luck with it.

[MaxDon]

Good report Exotic, but I have to ask you one question: were all your sessions in T2, T5, and Hotel Travel CBJ's? I assume that if you did not receive a BBBJ, the girl did not give you BBFS. I hate the tipping ask BS too especially when a girl gives sub-par performance. "Hey, here is a tip darling; give better service and you will get a better tip. " The only other thing I can add is; there are other bordellos in CGK where better service is still the default. These bordellos will cost more money, however.

Has Classic gone the CBJ way? I was under the impression BBBJ was something you didn't have to negotiate and the way of life there? That would suck!

[Exoticspirit]

Good report Exotic, but I have to ask you one question: were all your sessions in T2, T5, and Hotel Travel CBJ's? I assume that if you did not receive a BBBJ, the girl did not give you BBFS. I hate the tipping ask BS too especially when a girl gives sub-par performance. "Hey, here is a tip darling; give better service and you will get a better tip. " The only other thing I can add is; there are other bordellos in CGK where better service is still the default. These bordellos will cost more money, however.

The first three were definitely all CBJ and the last one might have been BBBJ but I can't recall for sure since I spent a very busy week in Japan after that. In any case, I did not ask about BBFS since it's not something I really want nor need to have. I actually brought my own Skyn Elite condoms from Canada and they are already super thin which is good enough for me. I know that for some reason this particular forum seems to be obsessed with BBFS (which is certainly not the case with other country forums including heavy weights like Colombia and Brazil) but I would just rather keep as safe as possible.

[Axel Heyst]

Good report Exotic, but I have to ask you one question: were all your sessions in T2, T5, and Hotel Travel CBJ's? I assume that if you did not receive a BBBJ, the girl did not give you BBFS. I hate the tipping ask BS too especially when a girl gives sub-par performance. "Hey, here is a tip darling; give better service and you will get a better tip. " The only other thing I can add is; there are other bordellos in CGK where better service is still the default. These bordellos will cost more money, however.

For my Indonesia trip this year, I did a week out at sea in Komodo for scuba diving followed by a week in Bali (quick report in Bali section). The final stop on my Indonesia tour was Jakarta and it was my second time there. On my first visit two years ago, all I did was the Terminal 2 club at Classic Hotel. Since I had four nights in Jakarta, I wanted to return to Terminal 2 again but also visit the club at Hotel Travel as well as the Terminal 5 club also at the Classic Hotel complex just to compare them all.

For my first night, I walked over to Terminal 2 from Heef Hotel since I didn't want to stay at Classic Hotel this time (I think I got some bed bugs there last time). I liked Heef Hotel except that the odd mosquito got into my room at night. Anyway, upon arrival at Terminal 2, after the security check, I was given a numbered bracelet which all my drinks and session fees will be charged on. Same familiar scene at Terminal 2 when I arrived around 8:30 pm except this time around, the band as well as DJ played at higher volume levels than I recalled from two years ago. Also, there were lots of Chinese tourists all smoking away. This combination of loudness and smoke would later do me in for my Jakarta stay...

[Exoticspirit]

For my Indonesia trip this year, I did a week out at sea in Komodo for scuba diving followed by a week in Bali (quick report in Bali section). The final stop on my Indonesia tour was Jakarta and it was my second time there. On my first visit two years ago, all I did was the Terminal 2 club at Classic Hotel. Since I had four nights in Jakarta, I wanted to return to Terminal 2 again but also visit the club at Hotel Travel as well as the Terminal 5 club also at the Classic Hotel complex just to compare them all.

For my first night, I walked over to Terminal 2 from Heef Hotel since I didn't want to stay at Classic Hotel this time (I think I got some bed bugs there last time). I liked Heef Hotel except that the odd mosquito got into my room at night. Anyway, upon arrival at Terminal 2, after the security check, I was given a numbered bracelet which all my drinks and session fees will be charged on. Same familiar scene at Terminal 2 when I arrived around 8:30 pm except this time around, the band as well as DJ played at higher volume levels than I recalled from two years ago. Also, there were lots of Chinese tourists all smoking away. This combination of loudness and smoke would later do me in for my Jakarta stay.

Anyway, the mamasans were just as aggressive as my trip two years ago about bringing your girls right away. I expected this so I just waved them off telling them I just wanted to walk around a bit. The club was filled with lots of girls, mostly average but certainly enough lookers for my taste. All young and dressed up for partying. The mamasans were going crazy with their laser pointers all night parading girls, sometimes 10-15 of them at a time to tables of guys. So girls were going back and forth from their rows of benches through the club to various tables of guys all night. This was actually a pretty cool scene to watch as high heels kept clicking by all night.

If one mamasan's group of girls did not appear to catch any of the dudes' eyes, another mamasan would soon bring her group of girls around. The girls must get tired of being paraded around like this but I'm sure it gives them higher chances of getting a session than just staying seated on the benches all night. Not surprisingly, most of the girls looked bored until they were actually picked by a guy.

At one point, one of the mamasans asked me if I was ready for a girl yet and I told her the place was way too loud. So she took my hand and walked me over to a side sofa area which was further away from the loudspeakers and of course proceeded to bring me girls. Sometimes they will bring you just one or two girls instead of an entire pack and this mamasan brought me this one girl which I actually found acceptable to me. So I decided to pick her and paid the mamasan 375,000 Indonesian or $29 Canadian. The girl took me down through the maze of internal rooms until we got to an available one. I tell you, if you haven't been to Classic Hotel, the entire complex is quite impressive. Almost like the FKK clubs in Germany which has large night club areas and then onsite rooms in another section of the building. The session rooms here are quite nice with ensuite showers but they do not have toilets so it's advisable to make a trip to the club washrooms prior to sessioning.

Without getting into specifics, I had a decent session with this girl although it started with CBJ after the shower. Don't expect much GFE with these girls but at the rates they charge, I wouldn't complain that much. I understand that more services could be negotiated with these girls but I didn't bother. After my session, I paid for any other club charges at the cashier and left as I had enough of the loud volume and smoke.

For night 2, I took a Grab motorbike to the club at Hotel Travel which is a similar club to Terminal 2 at Classic Hotel. It's a smaller club with a different layout. Same procedure with numbered bracelets. The nightclub area is smaller and there is a large back room where all the girls are hanging out on multiple couches. Patrons are allowed to walk in there and mamasans will be waiting to show you girls. Like at Terminal 2, they also parade groups of girls from this back room to the nightclub area to the tables of guys there. At least the music volume was lower than at Terminal 2 although still just as smoky.

Similar price at 375,000 Indonesian from what I can recall so I took a girl here for a session. Similar experience as at Terminal 2 but my girl here at Hotel Travel had a bit of an attitude. All these girls are not shy about asking for a tip at the end of the session. I was about to hand out a small tip to this girl and she demanded more. I didn't think her session warranted any extra since it was non-GFE and she actually got pissed off that I didn't give her a bigger tip and stormed back to the nightclub area -- whatever.

For night 3, I decided to try out Terminal 5 at the Classic Hotel complex. This is a separate club from Terminal 2 although I'm sure they are both connected somehow. Terminal 5 is accessed from the elevators and there is a guy inside it that operates it (don't know why this is even necessary). As soon as the elevator opens on floor 5, there are security guys waiting to take you to the club entrance. Same numbered bracelet setup. The club layout is a bit different with just two sections of rows where the girls are seated and the nightclub area faces them. It's a smaller club than Terminal 2 and less crowded too which was good for me. Music volume was also lower.

I think the mamasans here were a bit more easy going too than the ones at Terminal 2 and Hotel Travel so overall was a more relaxed atmosphere for me. I think session rates were the same or at least very similar. I don't even know if Terminal 2 and Terminal 5 share the same complex of session rooms or not. But overall session was similar here with girls about same overall quality as in the other clubs, just better atmosphere for me.

For my final night, I decided to return to Terminal 2 which is the biggest of all these clubs. Did a session here but I think I should have gone back to Terminal 5 instead because four consecutive nights of loud noise and smoke really got to me. During the daytime Jakarta had very poor air quality too (confirmed with online reports). So my entire stay in Jakarta was breathing in pollution which resulted in some coughing I had for a few days later.

I like the concept of these Jakarta clubs and the vision of groups of girls being paraded around is really a sight to see. But the air pollution outside in the city as well as inside these clubs is just too much. Unlike in Bali, there's not much to see or do as far as touristy things in Jakarta although the food scene is quite good. The session rates especially for young slim girls of this quality are unbeatable and the best mongering deal in southeast Asia (or likely in the world). But the music volume, especially at Terminal 2 is so unnecessary. I wish there was a similar club that play just quieter lounge music or jazz which would make the overall experience so much better plus you could actually converse with others easier inside.

Because of the overall atmosphere of these clubs (smoke and way too loud music) along with the city's bad air pollution, this might be my final trip to Jakarta. Although I'm returning to Indonesia, I think I can bypass Jakarta and just travel through Denpasar in Bali for international connections. Jakarta is a real shithole of a city in my view and even the low rates of available girls at these clubs are not enough to bring me back.

[Axel Heyst]

And at 1001 Colosseum unfortunately.

1001 is a big disappointment especially considering it was supposed to be the reincarnation of Hotel Alexis, once one of the best bordellos in Jakarta if not the world. After visiting 1001 a 4 or 5 times and batting 50/50 for BBBJ's with the girls, I complained first to the head mamasan and then to the manager. The manager told me in no uncertain terms that CBJ was the bordello's policy and all their girls were instructed accordingly. Needless to say, that was the last time I went to 1001.

[Safado70]

Normally BJs are without condom at Classic (and at every other place in Indonesia except Travel?)

And at 1001 Colosseum unfortunately.

[Werqweq]

I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting. Should be funny.