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  1. #22905

    Please free up your inbox space

    Bro, delete some messages and free up your inbox and DM me please.

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryReams  [View Original Post]
    Yes it can be hit or miss with the lighting and camera angles I try to use two mobile phones in landscape one on tripod or fixed location the other in hand. Low light sadly doesn't get the quality you want for still photos.

  2. #22904

    Jakarta First Trip. Part 1

    I spent a month in Indonesia earlier this year and what an intriguing discovery it was. I've been sitting on this review for a few months and it's time to get it out. I have a ton of notes. This first post will be logistics and general impressions. Then a second post to chronicle all the venues I visited and ladies I met.

    TRAVEL. It was my first time to SEA. Getting to Indonesia is a doozy. By far the longest trip I've had, 24 hours terminal to terminal with two flights 13 h /9 h and a 2 h layover. There are no direct flights from the US. Between the travel time and the serious jetlag, this trip reinforced my long held belief that it doesn't make sense to go to SEA for just a week vacation.

    COST. Indonesia is inexpensive. Wow. With the IDR vs. Dollar near 18000, a lot of basic stuff is often 50% cheaper than western countries. I did some price checks for fun. I will use 17000 as a conservative exchange rate. A Wendy's Dave Single combo was 96000/$5. 64; a Starbucks refresher was 55000/$3. 24; an iced coffee was 36000/$2. 11; movie tickets were 25000-45000/$1. 50-2. 50; a pedicure was 203000/$11.94. These would all be double or more in the US. Everyday items like food, transit, laundry, etc. Were generally much cheaper. Hotels too. Other consumer goods were not though (eg, runners).

    ACCOMODATIONS. The affordability of the hotels was a huge factor and a pleasant surprise. Often when you travel to less expensive destinations, the big hotel chains still get you with their inflated USD rates. Not in Indonesia. I stayed in six different hotels, and never paid more than $100/ night. The low was $34/ night, the high $97/ night, and the average $58/ night. All 4 and 5 star hotels. I can't overstate the convenience and peace of mind of staying in quality hotels on this trip, at rates which felt like saving money compared to other trips. The massage services in the hotels were an added bonus. I will list the hotels in their separate thread, but you should be able to connect the dots with my next post.

    ENTERTAINMENT. I'll have all the details of the venues and ladies in my next post. But the selection was vast and generally inexpensive. Not being overly into Asian women helped, otherwise my head would have been spinning. Generally I find them more pretty than sexy. What I would call a true Asian hottie is rare, though I did see a few. While most of the girls were slim and small chested, fortunately there were also plenty of options for bustier girls, sometimes enhanced but usually natural. It was fun hunting.

    FOOD. I didn't sample a ton of local food. Just a bit. Had Nasi Goreng many times, great stuff. The vendors on the street were as low as 15000 which is less than a buck. Most expensive was 50000. Soto Ayam was good. Ayam Pete Kecap was OK. Most meals were in the hotel, in malls, or on the street. I didn't see a lot of restaurants outside the malls, so only sampled a few of them.

    CLIMATE. It didn't rain too much. But the heat and humidity were rough. Most days it was like a sauna walking outside. I often went through two sets of clothes each day, showering and changing around dinner time to be fresh and ready for the evening. This necessitated a weekly laundry run. I found a drop off place that charged in the range 50000-70000 per load which is just $3-4. Some places will do pickup / delivery too. When heading out for a day I would typically plan to ensure at some point I was near a mall or other place where I could get food / drink and cool off. Starbucks was an almost daily stop.

    LOCAL TRANSPORT. I used Grab and it mostly worked well. Loved the motorbike option, used it many times. Occasionally, a Grab was not available in a timely manner so I took a Bluebird on the street. It was sometimes cheaper too. In one more extreme example, Grab was 50000 and a 10 minute wait; I just took a Bluebird on the street and it was 12000. One thing that happens sometimes is that Grab takes a route that gets you to the side of the street of your location, as it should. But this can add a lot of distance, doing a loop to get you on the correct side. With Bluebird you just tell the driver your destination or intersection, and they will go straight there and if needed you just walk across the street when you get there. When there is no Bluebird nearby though, you are stuck with the ride app and the wait time can be ridiculous at certain times of day. Grab will sometimes also string you along for half an hour claiming the wait is just ten minutes. I also took a Bajaj a few times, they can be good for going short distances fast, but they will jack up the price with a bule tax. You can negotiate. The buses and metro are the cheapest and good for longer distance if a station is near, but even so the difference vs. Grab will only be a few bucks. With all options being fairly cheap, convenience is really a deciding factor.

    MONEY. Possibly my biggest mistake was not bringing enough cash. I only brought about $700 USD. I learned the ATMs don't have high limits. So I ended up going to an ATM 3-4 X a week. It was a PITA. Fortunately I had a no-fee debit card. Some shopping mall ATMs only dispense 500 K. After some trial and error I mostly used locations with Sinarmas ATMs, which had a 3 M limit. BNI was good too. Next time I will bring more cash. Crisp, clean $100 US bills get the best exchange rate. The largest bill is 100000 IDR which is unfortunate, your wallet or money belt will be bulging if bringing several million IDR for an evening out.

    GENERAL. In advance I had done a ton of research, here and on SMF. And it seems a lot of people don't think much of the city of Jakarta. I see their point, but, I am in the glass half full camp on this one. We make of each destination what we choose to think and plan and do, and there is a lot to work with in Jakarta. The pollution didn't bother me. The heat and humidity did, but you adjust. I did many long walks in different parts of the city. The Metro red line was convenient to get to various areas as a starting point. Or ride app. I probably walked 20 miles in the city. Checked out several of the malls and tourist points. Sarinah was one of the better areas I found to hang out. Kept up my exercise with running and swimming. Got plenty of massages. I also took a 5-day side trip to Yogya, more on that later.

    Sidebar: From the reports it was clear that some form of PEP / PREP might be appropriate for this trip. I never did this before, but the reports convinced me. I had zero interest in BBFS on this trip, but BBBJ's are important. I decided on 100 MG doxycycline every other day. Not the most rigorous regimen, but it fit my comfort level and all turned out well.

    Next up the venues I visited: Kota Indah, Classic, Delta Spa, be Fashion, Emporium, Tease Club, El Group (Norte, Spa Pangjay, Fenix), Kimochi Mabes, BATS, CJ's, Colloseum Club, Malio Club, Malio Lounge.

  3. #22903
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianRain  [View Original Post]
    In the past when phones had not developed, I used a HFM40 video camera with an external light. Now mobile phones have developed and I use a Samsung S-series mobile phone. Two things to consider. One, are you sufficiently dexterous and limber to hold your phone in the air while you fuck in mish? Getting really memorable POV shots means you need to keep your device centered while you perform. Easier said than done. Second, whatever kit you use, getting a good quality shoot depends much more on light than phone lens specs.

    If you want an example of both aspects, look at the pics (or screen caps) done by "Maxtreme" in the Photo Gallery. Poor lighting. Poor framing. Expensive hotel rooms are the worst lighting anywhere to shoot homemade porn. Good luck. IMHO shooting real quality homemade POV porn takes a lot of effort to develop the skill. AR.
    Yes it can be hit or miss with the lighting and camera angles I try to use two mobile phones in landscape one on tripod or fixed location the other in hand. Low light sadly doesn't get the quality you want for still photos.

  4. #22902
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone out here have any experience, has anyone made professional videos with their girls. Do you use mobile phones or professional cameras with a tripod or glasses fitted with camera like a spy cam for POV. .
    In the past when phones had not developed, I used a HFM40 video camera with an external light. Now mobile phones have developed and I use a Samsung S-series mobile phone. Two things to consider. One, are you sufficiently dexterous and limber to hold your phone in the air while you fuck in mish? Getting really memorable POV shots means you need to keep your device centered while you perform. Easier said than done. Second, whatever kit you use, getting a good quality shoot depends much more on light than phone lens specs.

    If you want an example of both aspects, look at the pics (or screen caps) done by "Maxtreme" in the Photo Gallery. Poor lighting. Poor framing. Expensive hotel rooms are the worst lighting anywhere to shoot homemade porn. Good luck. IMHO shooting real quality homemade POV porn takes a lot of effort to develop the skill. AR.

  5. #22901

    Photos and videos

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I plan to take it to the next level with my girl and wish to shoot a proper video. I have made movies in the past using my mobile phone but the quality is just not good enough, pictures are shaky and can't hear much. Does anyone out here have any experience, has anyone made professional videos with their girls. Do you use mobile phones or professional cameras with a tripod or glasses fitted with camera like a spy cam for POV. I have her consent and she is game for all sorts of kinks.
    I use the Sony RX100 Mark Va and DJI Osmo Pocket 3 as my current setup.

    Also the Olympus EM5 Mark 3 with the 12/2.0 lens with an LED flash or external flashgun.

    For the highest quality, I use the Nikon Z6.2 at 4 K with the Rode Videomic Pro mounted on a tripod.

    I have about 600 GB of content over the past 20 years+.

  6. #22900
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Once you get there, you will see they are all so close together that you can walk past all the venues in 3-4 minutes if you don't enter any of them. It's a small rectangular area.

    In around 10 visits I can't say I've noticed any one bar having better quality than others myself. They all seem the same to me, so I wouldn't have an agenda myself. Some days the prettiest girl was in this bar, other days in that bar, so I just walk through them all until I find one I like, and then restart if I didn't find anyone.

    Seating / viewing arrangements suck, but eventually I've gotten used to it, and it's become less of a problem than the first time, when I thought it really sucked compared to Classic.
    Numbers is the best way I can describe success at KI. If you go there once, the story you'll tell may not be good. If you go to KI 10 times, you'll wander into the multiple locations a few times each visit, and you'll end up trying out 3 to 4 places by the time you've completed the 10 visits. You'll have 2 amazing stories to tell. Go to KI 100 times, and you would have visited each location for a good time at least 15 times each, and have 2 memorable stories to tell from each location. The others were forgettable, though you still remember having a nice time, got your rocks off, and all for a cheap price. It's all based on the numbers. The more you go, the more you'll find memorable moments. But for sure, not 100% of those visits will be awesome.

  7. #22899

    Video making

    Hi guys,

    I plan to take it to the next level with my girl and wish to shoot a proper video. I have made movies in the past using my mobile phone but the quality is just not good enough, pictures are shaky and can't hear much. Does anyone out here have any experience, has anyone made professional videos with their girls. Do you use mobile phones or professional cameras with a tripod or glasses fitted with camera like a spy cam for POV. I have her consent and she is game for all sorts of kinks.

  8. #22898
    Quote Originally Posted by Member#3088  [View Original Post]
    Yea, sure, their life ambition is to work in a cheap brothel in Jakarta. If you thing the majority are not indentured, you are kidding yourself.

    The classic girls are mostly from rural poor West Java families who are sacrificing themselves to educate siblings and support their parents. They deserve not only respect, but a sizeable tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    OS is just a little puzzled about this constant stream of announcements that punter ABC will be coming to Jakarta and that they will be going to establishment A and Establishment be. It is most likely extremely exciting for the proponent, the anticipation and the research, but it doesn't turn the dial for a reader. There's also a dedicated page for those who want to announce they are coming to Jakarta.

    The reality is that it isn't like the movies. You jump in a crappy old taxi at the airport, filled with complementary mosquitoes and wind your way through the rubbish strewn streets to a hotel somewhere that probably reflects your budget, where you begin your long anticipated holiday.

    The girls you are about to meet are from across the spectrum. Indonesia has limited opportunities for young people and for some this is the only option available. To be sitting on the other side of the world dictating what is acceptable in your dealings with them is a tone deaf to their reality.

    The truth is that Jakarta doesn't care about you. It's a big place and the machinations of sex for sale here are not something some huffing and puffing on a forum like this are going to influence. It's a liquid enough market that you can quite reliably predict how your base experience will play out. The trick is being able to supercharge that experience with a little empathy and finesse and starting your experience from an absolute position is probably not going to get you there. Loving Jakarta girls is probably your best starting point.
    These posts are spot on. I wish this forum had the like button for posts.

    I had a recent very good experience at Emporium, my first time there. Saw the lineups of the two groups of ladies, and all of the more expensive ones had big titties and were a little thicker. There were 5 or 6 of them at around 8 pm. The other group had more slender girls, about 10-12 of them. It was tough to pick one. I wish there was a chance for some smalltalk before picking a girl.

    Anyway, chose a cute one who turned out to be completely flat-chested. We had about 10 minutes in the pool, which was great. Some grinding and DFK before she asked if I wanted to go to the room. There were two other guys there without ladies, which seemed odd but didn't inhibit us.

    In the room, she fulfilled my oral desires with CIM. It took me a while since I had been drinking, and she never complained. Still time afterwards for some smalltalk and relaxing.

    While relatively expensive, the girls and facilities were vastly superior to Classic. Worth the up spend if you can manage it. Will return next visit to Jakarta.

  9. #22897
    Quote Originally Posted by Member#3088  [View Original Post]
    Yea, sure, their life ambition is to work in a cheap brothel in Jakarta. If you thing the majority are not indentured, you are kidding yourself.

    The classic girls are mostly from rural poor West Java families who are sacrificing themselves to educate siblings and support their parents. They deserve not only respect, but a sizeable tip.
    Many of them despite getting paraded around all night by the mamasans, will not get any session business every night. But for those I do end up sessioning with, I don't think a nice tip should be automatic as it will depend on the service and quality of session you had.

  10. #22896
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    There is a secret nude beach in Rawai, Phuket. Usually there's 3-5 guys and a couple of Russian girls. Recently a Thai Karen posted a video complaining about it. Video went viral. Cops got involved. I'm unsure if current status. Thanks a lot, Thai Karen.
    I know this has fuck all to do with Jakarta, but if the "secret Thai nude beach" is touted on facebook, it is not really a secret. Pro tip. There are no nude beaches on public land in Thailand. Feel free to come and FAFO. Thais have gotten fed up with foreigners acting badly. Now with the new deportation laws and an uber xenophobic prime minister, just one viral incident is all it takes to get any visa cancelled, then summarily deported and banned. Ask the Frenchman and the Israeli. AR.

  11. #22895

    Thanks, Thai Karen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeuss  [View Original Post]
    "A video recorded by a Japanese tourist went viral on social media platform X. The footage showed a pimp on the roadside in the Lokasari / Mangga Besar area openly offering ua girls. By July 2026, the Polda Metro Jaya's Women and Children Protection unit officially dismantled a child exploitation ring originating from those May cyber investigations".

    Why you guys have to show all your silly actions on X or TikTok or wherever? Stop that nonsense of publishing videos on public social media. This sort of actions by stupid "influencers" already did lead to close downs of many interesting areas worldwide. The Jap guy shall be nailed to the shithouse.
    There is a secret nude beach in Rawai, Phuket. Usually there's 3-5 guys and a couple of Russian girls. Recently a Thai Karen posted a video complaining about it. Video went viral. Cops got involved. I'm unsure if current status. Thanks a lot, Thai Karen.

  12. #22894

    Some may prefer being in some other occupation, but that is not my problem.

    Yea, sure, their life ambition is to work in a cheap brothel in Jakarta. If you thing the majority are not indentured, you are kidding yourself.

    The classic girls are mostly from rural poor West Java families who are sacrificing themselves to educate siblings and support their parents. They deserve not only respect, but a sizeable tip.

  13. #22893

    You don't have PM option

    I can't see PM option against your profile, please send me PM and lets exchange info / notes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I've been off the scene for many years, and have started again a couple of years ago. I normally use dating sites (Tinder, SA) to find non- or semi-pro girls, some with regular jobs, some temporarily unemployed, etc. I subscribed to SA a few months ago, chatted on WA / Telegram with a few gals from Java, and took one (an innocent-looking, hot nympho) to a beach holiday overseas. Great experience, I was hoping to meet her again in Indonesia soon but she's discussing a long-term exclusive arrangement with a dude.

    I do have a few other contacts but I haven't tried them and my time in Jakarta, Yogya and Bali is limited due to time and work commitments, so I was hoping that fellow members could share via PM some tested contacts. I am keen to share my own, of course. So that they can be tested by those with more time and patience than me. All good looking girls in the 25-35 age band..

  14. #22892

    Swapping contacts?

    Hello,

    I've been off the scene for many years, and have started again a couple of years ago. I normally use dating sites (Tinder, SA) to find non- or semi-pro girls, some with regular jobs, some temporarily unemployed, etc. I subscribed to SA a few months ago, chatted on WA / Telegram with a few gals from Java, and took one (an innocent-looking, hot nympho) to a beach holiday overseas. Great experience, I was hoping to meet her again in Indonesia soon but she's discussing a long-term exclusive arrangement with a dude.

    I do have a few other contacts but I haven't tried them and my time in Jakarta, Yogya and Bali is limited due to time and work commitments, so I was hoping that fellow members could share via PM some tested contacts. I am keen to share my own, of course. So that they can be tested by those with more time and patience than me. All good looking girls in the 25-35 age band.

    I also have contacts from a couple of other Asian countries. Happy to share.

  15. #22891
    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    The girls you are about to meet are from across the spectrum. Indonesia has limited opportunities for young people and for some this is the only option available. To be sitting on the other side of the world dictating what is acceptable in your dealings with them is a tone deaf to their reality.

    The truth is that Jakarta doesn't care about you. It's a big place and the machinations of sex for sale here are not something some huffing and puffing on a forum like this are going to influence. It's a liquid enough market that you can quite reliably predict how your base experience will play out. The trick is being able to supercharge that experience with a little empathy and finesse and starting your experience from an absolute position is probably not going to get you there. Loving Jakarta girls is probably your best starting point.
    Hey OS, I totally agree with most of what you are saying. Let's say two people meet in some venue, they get along, establish a good vibe and establish some level of feeling between themselves, if so, they can then reach a mutually agreeable understanding and everybody is happy. That is the only way to go IMHO. It is called p4 p, but it is not slavery. I would hate it if it were that because I really like the girls I am with, and I try to convey those feelings to all my prospective girls before we ever go upstairs or back to my hotel. I would never force a girl to do anything she is not comfortable with. Never! But likewise, I am under no obligation to take a girl upstairs, take her to my hotel room, or have anything to do with her if I feel she is not inclined towards making me happy.

    So when a BBBJ, for example, is the expected level of service in a place like Classic, I do not feel the need to even inquire about it and I will be disappointed and most likely end things in the room, then and there if I do not receive it. I don't even bother going to a place like 1001 anymore even though they have some very pretty girls because I believe CBJ's are the default level of service, but if I did go there, I would ask the girl I was interested in about it before agreeing to take her upstairs. And if her answer was CBJ only, I would politely end the conversation and move on.

    But putting all that aside, performance is definitely linked to what the man and the girl think of each other and that is why establishing good vibes in the beginning is very important. Classic happens to be a very controlled environment, and management expects their girls to perform in a more prescribed way than say girls hanging out independently at a disco or nightclub. Still, when a Classic girl likes her customer, things are more likely to be better, a lot better than if she does not like him or is neutral about him.

    I like to think that all my girls enjoy having sex with me or at the very least view me as a desirable customer. Some may prefer being in some other occupation, but that is not my problem. I treat them all with respect and I expect them to treat me likewise.

    A. H.

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