American Politics

[SubCmdr]

Sure it may make a good argument someday, but until constitutional lawyers make that case, who cares since its not a legal constitutional law, rule or duty the minority government has to perform. So once again a moot point!

The party in the minority is not powerless. Giving the Democrats no excuses. It retains significant negative power to block, delay, or shape legislation.

Like they did for the Digital Asset Market Clarity Act of 2025.

Other sources of power include:

Procedural Veto Points: In the USA Senate, the filibuster allows the minority to block legislation requiring 60 votes, whereas the House has fewer such formal barriers.

Amendment and Oversight: Minorities can force votes on amendments to expose majority weaknesses, conduct oversight hearings, and use public messaging to hold the majority accountable.

Research indicates that minority influence is strongest when the majority party is constrained (e. G, by supermajority requirements or internal divisions) and the minority is cohesive and motivated to legislate rather than just campaign.

So lack of a codified law on the Loyal opposition the minority party and those that support it does not give them an excuse for not performing their duties. Otherwise why not just back up and go home. Why? Because they want to collect their salaries for doing nothing.

[SubCmdr]

So the question still remains, "What has the administrative party in power (both houses), the (neither party is mine) Repubs, done for Americans?"

This is not a question to be directed at me. The question needs to be directed at the Republicans posting in this thread. Lest I remind you:

Neither Party is mine!

Knowing the U.S. Constitution, as well as you do, wouldn't you have posted evidence to this information by now?

Oh, I'm well aware the the meaning with regards to the "loyal opposition", and its intended framing of the term, as explained and defended in my previous post. However, I do take issue with your use of it, taking political license with it, by trying to attribute it, as some kind of article in the U.S. Constitution.

There is no mention of political parties nor a loyal opposition in the United States Constitution.

That is your cross to bare, my friend!

Thank you for the religious reference. But the meaning is lost on me in this political debate.

Under the current system the party candidate for POTUS picks his running mate. That means the people do not get a separate vote for vice president. Under the original constitutional system, each member of the Electoral College cast two votes for president, with the candidate receiving the most votes becoming president and the runner-up becoming vice president. To resolve these issues, the Twelfth Amendment was ratified in 1804, requiring electors to cast separate ballots for president and vice president. Since the 1804 election, candidates have run together on a single ticket, with the president and vice president elected as a unified team. Prior to this amendment, there were no distinct vice presidential candidates on the ballot.

Yes, thanks for the always enigmatic critique the opposition debtor's way thinking and whom they choose to politically support, instead of focusing on the debate issue at hand.

That is your opinion. You make fun of my political position all the time. When you write the (neither party is mine) Repubs, done for Americans?" in italics when you should have just written Republicans.

But for the record, I think just fine for myself and support those (people or parties) that foster, a more equalized form of democracy.

Which party in the Dis United States of America does that?

in all it's forms, in this ever changing world of ours. Hope that's clear enough!

I hope it is clear enough for you if you read The Constitution of the United States of America (the founding document of the country you live in) was formed as a constitutional federal democratic republic. The Dis United States of America is actually a plutocracy.

[Axel Heyst]

That monkey is directly impacting my flight path to Thailand.

When did you book your flight genius? I am flying GRU to BKK. I had a simple choice: book the cheaper middle eastern route or pay up and fly thru AMS. I chose the Amsterdam route. Sometimes it is smart to think about geopolitics ahead of time. Can you cancel your flight without a penalty? That is another option worth considering next time you make a reservation.

[Elvis 2008]

Yes, you prefer coal and nuclear, while admitting nothing get done. And yet in subsequent debates, you've been arguing like a Mad Hatter, that the U.S. is somehow winning (and will win) the AI race, ahead of China and Europe, because it has better electricity prices (and that fossil fuel generating electricity energy (or just energy in general), is the key to winning the AI race?

To which I replied:

Here is an update from Huang:

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang recently sat down on the All-In Summit 2026 (on September 14,2026) and shared a blunt, practical perspective on the global AI race, open-source technology, STEM talent pipelines, and domestic chip manufacturing and reiterated what he'd said in November 2025 and said again at the summit:

Yeah, in your fucked up head, China is the model electrostate while they pollute more than anyone in the world and are putting up coal plants like no tomorrow. 3 in 4 of the solar panels you are gushing about are not working and the Chinese solar industry is going bankrupt as it loses money like crazy.

In the mean time, USA oil and gas companies are raking it in which bugs the shit out of libtards like you. China making money and winning the AI race is good. American companies earning money is not. LOL. It is no longer a surprise that the modern Democratic party and people like you are more pro-China than pro-USA.

While Elvis 2008 in his RV, has the luxury of pulling up to the local gas-station and fueling-up his RV and generator, very conveniently, out on the ocean, in the middle of nowhere, where are you going to find a gas-station?

Generally, a large cruise ship up to 1,100 feet in length can carry as much as two million gallons of diesel on board. https://www.cruisehive.com/how-much-...ip-hold/104177

One gallon of diesel contains 40.7 killowatts of energy. https://www.convertunits.com/from/gallon+USA +of+diesel+oil / to / kilowatt-hour.

Multiply the two and you get 81.4 billion watts of energy. If you have a 10 day cruise, that is about 8 billion watts of energy per day.

What a bird brain like you does not get is that solar energy generation is based on square footage and how much space do you need to generate 8 billion watts of energy per day?

Per google, to generate 8 billion watts (8 gigawatts) of solar energy daily, you require approximately 17,500 square miles of land area, which is equivalent to about 11.2 million acres. That just happens to be an area that is 1.5 times the size of the state of Maryland.

And you would need battery capacity to store 4 billion watts of power when the sun went down and you are still going to need hundreds of thousands of gallons of diesel in case there is not adequate sun.

Oh yeah, that is the future!

But there is a successful solar boat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aditya_(boat).

It carries 75 passengers at a time and makes trips that are a whopping one and a half miles at a time.

It does not use fossil fuels! It uses totally "renewable" energy!

And then there is this: Cloudy-day charging via 32 A shore charger adds 21 kWh in 3 hours.

Just like the fact that China is burning coal and polluting like no tomorrow, you climate change nuts think that plugging in your vehicle into a wall socket somehow is not using fossil fuels.

It has been kind of fun to see Europe waking up to how listening to dumb ass climate change nuts like yourself has led them into the mess they are in now. This past summer when Europe was burning up, they had little of those "luxury" AC units, and thousands died of heat stroke.

One huge reason that the Europeans were so blown away by American standards of living with the world cup is because we Republicans tuned out you climate change nuts, and China has done the same thing. You are just too dense to notice.

[SubCmdr]

Bitcoin is already regulated. So that shows how little you actually know about the subject. The Digital Asset Market Clarity Act of 2025 It is formally tracked in the USA Congress as H.R. 3633 during the 119th Congress. It doesn't addressed Bitcoin in several ways.

Statutory commodity classification: Bitcoin is explicitly classified as a digital commodity under CFTC jurisdiction, locking in what is currently just agency policy into federal law.

CFTC spot-market jurisdiction: The CFTC would gain exclusive regulatory authority over spot trading in digital commodities, including Bitcoin.

Banking access (Section 401): Banks, credit unions, and financial holding companies would be permitted to custody Bitcoin, lend against it as collateral, operate nodes, and provide brokerage / clearing services without extra prior approval.

Developer & self-custody protections (Sections 604605):*Bitcoin developers, node operators, and non-custodial wallet makers get explicit immunity from money-transmitter liability, and self-custody becomes a legally protected right.

leave it to Democrats to do the best thing regarding legislation for it. I know they will.

Actually they won't and they didn't.

That said, the bill stalled in the Senate the cloture motion was rejected 4950 on September 15,2026, so it has not been enacted. As of now, Bitcoin's commodity status rests on agency practice (reinforced by a March 2026 joint SEC-CFTC classification) rather than statute.

My understanding is that jobs are important to you. From your posting about job creation.

The USA Cryptocurrency industry directly employs 34,000 people and supports a total of 232,000 jobs across the broader economy in 2026. Democrats continue to threaten those jobs.

[Spidy]

Some scholars also argue that federalism serves as a distinctively American form of loyal opposition, allowing local and state governments to institutionalize dissent and minority rule within the national framework. So, my position is still that the Democrats are making excuses are not performing there role as the loyal opposition. They need to do so in order to make the American System work.

Sure it may make a good argument someday, but until constitutional lawyers make that case, who cares since its not a legal constitutional law, rule or duty the minority government has to perform. So once again a moot point!

[Spidy]

Still making your arguments from the stand point of party instead of independently thinking for yourself.

Yes, thanks for the always enigmatic critique the opposition debtor's way thinking and whom they choose to politically support, instead of focusing on the debate issue at hand. But for the record, I think just fine for myself and support those (people or parties) that foster, a more equalized form of democracy, in all it's forms, in this ever changing world of ours. Hope that's clear enough!

Which is the problem I have with political parties in the first place.

That is your cross to bare, my friend!

Are you going to stipulate to the fact that there is not a single word in The United States Constitution that refers to political parties?

Knowing the U.S. Constitution, as well as you do, wouldn't you have posted evidence to this information by now?

The loyal opposition in the United States refers to the institutionalized role of the political party out of power, which is expected to challenge the governing party's policies and seek electoral victory while remaining committed to the constitutional framework and peaceful transfer of power.

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/a...yal-opposition

Unlike the British parliamentary system with its formal shadow cabinet, the USA Lacks a concrete legal definition for the concept but enforces it through First Amendment rights, congressional rules (such as committee hearings and the filibuster), and norms of comity between parties.https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/maj...yal-opposition ...

Neither Party is mine!

Oh, I'm well aware the the meaning with regards to the "loyal opposition", and its intended framing of the term, as explained and defended in my previous post. However, I do take issue with your use of it, taking political license with it, by trying to attribute it, as some kind of article in the U.S. Constitution.

But since you've not produced any evidence (because there is none) from the U.S. Constitution (a document you know so well), with regards "the loyal opposition", despite the false inferences you maybe trying to make with the British Parliamentary construct of "the loyal opposition", the fact is there is nothing in the The U.S. Constitution.

Currently there is no such thing as the "loyal opposition" in the U.S. Constitution, but it does sound to me like, your "loyal opposition" argument, is the very thing that constitutional law and lawyers are need for and are meant to argue in the courts, as to whether or not it pertains to the constitution.

So the question still remains, "What has the administrative party in power (both houses), the (neither party is mine) Repubs, done for Americans?"

[Ass Addict]

Let's pray that the Iranian regime stops holding poor people in poverty.

Let's pray the US backed Israel terror regime stops killing children, toddlers, women and civilians across their neighboring countries. We won't hold our breath given their disgusting behaviour since they stole the land of the People of Palestine.

[Ass Addict]

These posters are either not American or traitors.

The traitors are in the White House. Paid by foreign agents to send the US terrorist army fight wars they can't fight themselves.

[SubCmdr]

I'll pass on the latest Tulip Mania or Ponzi Scheme

Bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme! It lacks the central operator, fraudulent promises of guaranteed returns, and mechanism of using new investors' funds to pay earlier ones that define such schemes.

https://river.com/learn/is-bitcoin-a-ponzi-scheme/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/crypt...103800184.html

https://www.bitstack-app.com/en/lear...i-scheme?c=EUR

Decentralization: Bitcoin is a protocol for digital money. Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer network with no central authority controlling funds or orchestrating payouts, unlike the centralized fraud inherent in Ponzi schemes.

Transparency: The Bitcoin protocol, including its supply cap and transaction ledger, is open-source and public, whereas Ponzi schemes rely on secrecy and deception.

Value Source: Bitcoin's price is driven by market supply and demand rather than artificial returns; while some critics argue it resembles a "greater fool" game or bubble, it does not meet the legal or structural definition of a Ponzi fraud.

Bitcoin is a opt in system. I do not have a problem with individuals who do not wish to opt in. There are only 21 million Bitcoin that will ever exist in the world. So, more for me. But I will not let mis-information on Bitcoin to unchallenged.

[SubCmdr]

It should be noted

Bitcoin is fully legal in the United States for individuals to buy, sell, hold, and use, though it is not recognized as legal tender (the USA Dollar remains the only official fiat currency). Commodity Status: The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) designates Bitcoin as a commodity, granting it authority over Bitcoin derivatives and futures markets. Property Status: The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) classifies Bitcoin as property, meaning all gains from sales or spending are subject to capital gains taxes and must be reported on tax returns.

Each Bitcoin breaks down into 100,000,000 units called Sats.

Until it is practical to buy a cheeseburger with a bitcoin

You can buy a cheeseburger with Bitcoin at select locations, primarily through the Steak 'and Shake chain, which accepts BTC directly and offers a limited-edition Bitcoin Steakburger with a logo-stamped bun. Burger Kinglocations in Germany, Venezuela, and the Netherlands have historically accepted direct Bitcoin payments, though availability varies by region. .

For most other restaurants, you can use Bitcoin debit cards (e. G. , BitPay, Binance) that convert crypto to fiat at the point of sale, or purchase*gift cards*via services like*Bitrefill*for chains like McDonald's or Chipotle.

[SubCmdr]

Still making your arguments from the stand point of party instead of independently thinking for yourself. Which is the problem I have with political parties in the first place. Are you going to stipulate to the fact that there is not a single word in The United States Constitution that refers to political parties?

The loyal opposition in the United States refers to the institutionalized role of the political party out of power, which is expected to challenge the governing party's policies and seek electoral victory while remaining committed to the constitutional framework and peaceful transfer of power.

Designed to make space for the political party out of power to dissent and hold the majority party accountable without facing accusations of treason, the concept of a loyal opposition depends on the deference of non-governing parties to the authority of democratic institutions and the normative framework in which they operate.

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/a...yal-opposition

Unlike the British parliamentary system with its formal shadow cabinet, the USA Lacks a concrete legal definition for the concept but enforces it through First Amendment rights, congressional rules (such as committee hearings and the filibuster), and norms of comity between parties.

Since the American system doesnt allow for a formal opposition like the UKpolitical parties and leaders are not even mentioned*in the U.S. Constitution we establish responsible majority rule and respect the loyal opposition through a mix of First Amendment free speech rights and technical congressional rules that evolved over time to allow for minority dissent through committee hearings, floor debates, legislative amendment processes, the Senate filibuster, and other measures. Given our systems elaborate separation of powers and checks and balances, the American government also requires effective norms between the political parties to work well.

https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/maj...yal-opposition

The Republicans control both houses of Congress and the Executive.

Democratic cop out. Victim status. Whoa is me. I am in the minority party now. I lost my chairmanship of a committee.

Even if a party controls both branches of Congress and the presidency, as is the case now under Trump and in 2021 under Biden, they still will need some consultation with the minority partyand perhaps actual votes if margins are tightto pass important legislation or overcome Senate filibuster rules to end debate on bills.

https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/maj...yal-opposition

I grew up in the Dis United States of America when this concept is often viewed as a cornerstone of American democracy. It legitimized political dissent and ensured that opposition is seen as a patriotic duty rather than disloyalty.

I can't believe how many posters on this site are cheering for Iran in this war and are Anti American just because Trump is president. These posters are either not American or traitors.

I pulled the quote up in just a quick search of the word traitor. I have already posted a definition of the word in this thread. But it is used repeatedly in this thread to describe speech that is only political dissent and does not rise to the legal level of treason.

It is my first example of how recent political discourse indicates that the concept of The Loyal Minority is under strain. With the extreme polarization and the unsubstantiated accusations of voter fraud and rejection of election results the meaning of "loyalty" has shifted from democratic principles to strict party obedience. In my opinion, this undermines the stability of the system and makes the Dis United States of America resemble nothing of the place I spent so many of my formative years in. In fact, it is gotten to the point where I don't really want to step foot in the Dis United States of America if I don't have to.

Some scholars also argue that federalism serves as a distinctively American form of loyal opposition, allowing local and state governments to institutionalize dissent and minority rule within the national framework. So, my position is still that the Democrats are making excuses are not performing there role as the loyal opposition. They need to do so in order to make the American System work.

Neither Party is mine!

[SubCmdr]

Democrats are the do nothing party. I am a minority in the Dis United States of America. Yet, I still was relatively successful for a poor person. The Democrats are just taking up the victim status claiming they can do nothing because they are in the minority. I am not buying it. They are just sitting on their hands and collecting their checks because that's what is easiest for them to do.

The jump in Treasury yields this week is delivering a reality check about a strong economy, stubborn inflation and the growing cost of the national debt.

The economys recent strength has also come on the back of a flood of government deficit spending, driven in part by large tax cuts under the first and second Trump administrations, with Iran war spending piling on. The federal deficit is set to come in above 6% of gross domestic product this year, based on data from the Congressional Budget Office. The agency projects that the tax and policy law passed last year will raise deficits by $4.7 trillion over 10 years, though tariffs will offset some of that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/24/trea...-analysis.html

This is the fault of the Democrats!

[ShooBree]

So you are saying the Pentagon Inspector General Report on Operation Epic Fury is a lie? Let's face it. You are expressing your opinion. I quoted a factual, credible source. Where is your link backing up your statement?

So you claim that the Iranian regime isn't attacking civilian ships in the Strait of Hormusz?

So you claim that President Trump doesn't want the Strait of Hormusz to be open and free for traffic?

I'm just writing the facts; I thought it was a known fact for the majority of people that the Iranian regime is attacking civilian ships in the Strait of Hormusz. Even the Iranian regime is saying it, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it.

[Spidy]

For any such U.S. Constitutional "crutch" and/or shortcomings, you may think I have, I still stand behind my original statement.

Meaning, that while the U.S. Constitution is written in plain English for anyone to read and understand (although somehow still needs translating sites), it remains a board abstract framework (often vague IMHO) and still requires constitutional law and lawyers to determine its operational legal meaning in specific cases.

So the question still remains:

Well speaking of The U.S. Constitution, and the REAL argument of your previous post about "the loyal opposition", which BTW I found to be a real novel idea, but an infactual and moot argument, since there is no section in any article, in The U.S. Constitution, giving credence to your of notion of "the loyal opposition", despite any such non-reference in the "Federalist Papers" you're trying to concoct, with this British Parliamentary construct.

So the question still remains, "What has the administrative party in power (both houses), the (neither party is mine) Repubs, done for Americans?"