Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[EihTooms]

A senior member that has almost 7900 posts writes the following:

Correct me if I am wrong. But if he has 7900 posts and has been posting for years (seriously, I want you to correct my thinking if I am wrong) hasn't he had plenty of time to share that information before he decided to have a flame war over a issue he feels passionately about (namely 18 year old girls or older entering prostitution here in Thailand) with another Senior Member over the last month or so?

If he want to keep that information to himself. The 5th Amendment of The Constitution gives him the right to remain silent.

It should be noted:

There is no single official Miranda script; the law requires the four core rights be conveyed clearly, not in exact words.

Even Royal Thai Police officers might have a law degree.

Last point, if our senior member who is not a Thai Citizen, nor a member of the bar is so pussy whipped by his current Thai Girl Friend that he is afraid to fuck, then why does any of this matter to him?

Your assumption is everything one could learn and know about Thailand and this hobby was set in stone and right there to know and share in year one, five or ten? Things change. Old options disappear, new one emerge. Covid especially changed much. And mostly not for the better.

Sometimes it takes years to discover something important. You have spent years living in Thailand by now and you have yet to notice that Thai culture, demeanor and language is very flexible and imprecise. For example, when Thai authorities tell the media or others that so-and-so was arrested "for prostitution", you have yet to realize they are merely using the term "for prostitution" as a catch-all for a whole host of prostitution-related crimes even though not one sentence in any legally enforceable document or legislation with paragraph after paragraph of sentences is devoted to stating that the simple and direct act of consenting adults discreetly agreeing to engage in sex for money and then engaging in it in private is illegal, a crime, subject to arrest, punishable by any penalty nor, therefore, has ever in known history has doing that resulted in an arrest or punishment.

You have utterly missed that after all these years and even after having it shown to be totally missing in the Code and the Act. And missing for a very good reason.

BTW, where did you come up with the silliness about me being pussy whipped by anyone and afraid to fuck my girlfriend? LOL. See? You've spent years "learning" things that are not true rather than learning things that are true.

[SubCmdr]

Is group sex between consenting adults 18 years or older legal in Thailand if a exchange of money is involved?

I am a simple man too.

I'm not that sophisticated.

[SubCmdr]

Probably a reader of ISG and your posts urging arrests and the closure of venures where an otherwise perfectly non criminal offer of prostitution was made.

Says right in the article what happened.

According to the undercover officers, the workers offered sexual services to customers. Furthermore, they also confirmed that prostitution was offered inside the venue. Consequently, investigators prepared a sting operation based on the findings. Next, undercover agents arranged to pay for such services. Specifically, they transferred money to the bar owners account.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...ongsao-police/

If prostitution is legal in Thailand why was there a sting operation?

Or did you contact and alert the police privately this time?

I did not! Asked and answered.

Repeat the accusation and you will be in violation Thai Criminal Code (Sections 326333). Reference is made to several posts you have made in the RANTS thread. Defamation in Thailand is a criminal offense governed by the Thai Criminal Code (Sections 326333), meaning individuals can face imprisonment and fines in addition to civil liability. Intent is not required for a conviction; any statement that impairs another's reputation before a third party qualifies as defamation, regardless of whether it was made maliciously.

Is that in plain enough language for you?

[SubCmdr]

Very common bar Q&A: Customer: how long you in Pattaya? Lady: 2 days.

But the lady really means she just got back from holiday 2 days ago. She's been working Pattaya for 10 years.

Good report, I'm surprised such a girl can still make experienced mongers believe she's just started working there. She's been there at least for the last three years, every time I was passing by I could see her, my reaction have always been damn that girl is still working there.

I ask both of you:

Why in the fuck does it matter?

[SubCmdr]

What EihTooms fails to understand is that his opinion on the law does not matter. What matters is how Thai Law Enforcement decided to enforce the law and how the Thai Courts choose to interpret the law.

I have used as an example his own words:

The laws and regulations regarding Thai nominees for foreign property or business ownership have been clear and on the books for a long, long time.

The law did not change. How Thai authorities have decided to enforce it has changed.

May 2026: enforcement tightened, the law did not change
Between 15 and 25 May 2026 the Department of Lands issued three consecutive circulars marked most urgent to every Provincial*Land Office, addressing land held for foreigners through Thai proxies: MT 0515.2/W 10722 of 15 May 2026, W 11266 of 21 May, and W 11493 of 25 May. W 10722 and W 11493 are signed by Director-General Phornphot Phenphas. These are administrative circulars. They create no new law and impose no new reporting duty on the public. W 11493 says so in terms, recording that it does not repeal the earlier Ministry of Interior letters or the Departments own standing directives but gathers them into one sequence. So the legal exposure of a*nominee*arrangement is unchanged while the likelihood of it being examined has risen sharply.

And yet for twenty years (20) they are not enforced.

The Thailand nominee company crackdown 2026 is the most aggressive enforcement action weve seen in 20 years of practice. On April 1, 2026, the Department of Business Development (DBD) rolled out mandatory in-person shareholder verification for any company amendment involving foreign participation. Thai shareholders cant hide behind paper anymore. They have to show up, declare their income, and sign forms that carry criminal liability.

https://www.thailawonline.com/thaila...rackdown-2026/

It would behoove each and every International Trick visiting Thailand for international trickin activities that has access to the internet to use the links I have provided to read the law themselves not give away your agency to a Non Thai Citizen, Non Member of the Bar, who lives in Bangkok, Thailand that is obsessed with 18 year old girls (and older) entering prostitution in Thailand.

All I have ever done is just made the argument. Anyone who is from the Dis United Stated of America would understand my background. It is through the adversarial system in the courts where a jury is convened to review the merits of the evidence presented to them. The International Tricks of ISG reading my posts are my jury.

Decide for yourselves gentlemen!

[SubCmdr]

A senior member that has almost 7900 posts writes the following:

However, there are methods, locations and players in Thailand that do virtually guarantee to about a 99% certainty a lovely hassle-free BBBJCIM+Swallow, BBFSCIP with genuine affection, always the customer's choice which or both and with well above average lookers age 18 years or slightly above and for very little more baht than the going rate for standard Covered Everything. And I have been lucky enough to discover them through the years.

I would share that info on ISG but

Correct me if I am wrong. But if he has 7900 posts and has been posting for years (seriously, I want you to correct my thinking if I am wrong) hasn't he had plenty of time to share that information before he decided to have a flame war over a issue he feels passionately about (namely 18 year old girls or older entering prostitution here in Thailand) with another Senior Member over the last month or so?

If he want to keep that information to himself. The 5th Amendment of The Constitution gives him the right to remain silent.

Miranda RightsYou have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?

It should be noted:

There is no single official Miranda script; the law requires the four core rights be conveyed clearly, not in exact words.

To become a Royal Thai Police officer, applicants must be Thai nationals by birth, aged between 18 and 35 (with extensions for ethnic minorities), and hold at least a high school diploma or a law degree.

Even Royal Thai Police officers might have a law degree.

Last point, if our senior member who is not a Thai Citizen, nor a member of the bar is so pussy whipped by his current Thai Girl Friend that he is afraid to fuck, then why does any of this matter to him?

[EihTooms]

It's right there in plain English language in your quote of his explanation.

https://www.refworld.org/legal/legis...bod/1996/58177

https://legal.co.th/resources/thaila...egal-thailand/

Transcript of the video:

Every International Trick or 18 year old girl that is about to enter prostitution that has questions about it they can refer to this transcript and watch the video. What you choose to believe is as my girls say to me: "Up to you"?.

Wink, Wink!

Since your mission here publicly and, as you say, to also "exchange information privately", is to discourage consenting adult sex workers and customers in Thailand from engaging in the perfectly non criminal and discreet agreement to exchange sex for money, money for sex, to make good on that agreement privately behind closed doors and to goad Thai authorities into intimidating them, harassing them, arresting and rounding them up to interrogate them as well as to have every gogo bar, beer bar, massage shop, escort service, nightclub, restaurant, pub, hotel and apartment complex in Thailand shutdown for ever having "allowed" such a discreet agreement or fulfillment of that agreement to be made, it is notable that you are now accepting the word of a non Thai bar attorney on what is and isn't a crime regarding prostitution in Thailand.

And you're also now expecting the 18 year old and older Thai girls who might need or merely want to choose that perfectly non criminal route to make much more money than they otherwise could to read or listen to that man's explanation and to comprehend plain English language well enough to understand the critical point in his AND the Act to which he is referring that the illegal behavior is doing it "in a promiscuous manner"? You know, as in "openly and shamelessly in a public place causing a nuisance to the public" and so on being the part that is illegal but NOT the discreet agreement and fulfillment between consenting adults to exchange sex for money or anything else of value.

Hell, you can't even comprehend plain English language enough to grasp that critical point.

[EihTooms]

Owner of prostitution den fronting as Karaoke bar arrested Friday and charged by Chacheongsao Police

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...ongsao-police/

Probably a reader of ISG and your posts urging arrests and the closure of venures where an otherwise perfectly non criminal offer of prostitution was made. Or did you contact and alert the police privately this time?

[SubCmdr]

https://www.refworld.org/legal/legis...bod/1996/58177

https://legal.co.th/resources/thaila...egal-thailand/

Transcript of the video:

As the title of this video suggests, we are discussing whether or not prostitution is legal or illegal in Thailand. I have done other videos on this but something recently came up in the news, I will get to that in a moment. Every now and then I kind of reiterate this: yes prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Thailand has a different way of defining it, I'll get into that in a moment but also at the same time common sense should kind of prevail too on these topics, I will get to that. So I thought of making this video after reading a recent article in the Thai Examiner, that's thaiexaminer.com, the article is titled: Biggest Sex for Sale website shut down by police unit in early morning raid targeting foreigners. Quoting directly: "A cursory review shows that it clearly advertised prostitution services with detailed reviews given by customers from mid-July to the end of July, most of them appearing to be English speaking foreigners, raving about and paying compliments to the sex workers working on the online facility together with photographs of attractive young women in provocative clothing and poses." So I urge those who are watching this video, as usual Thai Examiner does a really meticulous job of going through, reporting on what's going on there. A foreigner and a Thai apparently were arrested in this matter. There was a website up was promoting what ostensibly was escort activities but apparently Thai Police felt that there was enough probable cause to presume that prostitution was being purveyed through this website, so they went ahead and made arrests. Again, I urge those watching this video, go check out the article and get in depth information on that.

The thrust of this video though is sort of legal analysis. Again I am an American Attorney, I am not a Thai lawyer, I am not a Thai Attorney. I am the Managing Director of the firm but we do provide these videos for sort of informational purposes only. I discussed with the Thai lawyers in our office, the analysis of this I am going to do right here and they have said, "yeah this is basically the situation in Thailand." So I took this from krisdika.go.th, so this is the Government of Thailand's own website where they published the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act B.E. 2539, (that's 1996). So this is the Act that is currently in force here in Thailand. Under section 4 in this Act, "Prostitution" means the acceptance of sexual intercourse or any other act or the commission of any other act in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner, in return for money or any other benefit irrespective of whether the person who accepts the act and the person who commits the act are of the same sex or not." Again it's on the Thai Government's website, it's in English. Now remember, the dispositive language for purposes of Law in Thailand is Thai, so the Thai language prevails but this is pretty informative stuff when you consider it is on the Thai Government's own website and it's an English translation of the Act so it gives you, in my opinion, as much detail as can be given for informational and educational purposes providing it in the English language, so again. But it is this "promiscuous manner" part of the definition of prostitution that in my mind is where the rubber hits the road at least from a comparative law analysis standpoint between for example Western countries, jurisdictions in the United States and how they define prostitution, versus Thailand. This "promiscuous manner" what I would call an almost open and notorious sort of framework when analyzing this, it really in my mind comes into play because Thailand is in my mind very much a "Live and let Live" sort of society. And it takes the position that "hey no we don't want prostitution, we don't want to encourage that kind of behaviour". But as I have said in many other videos, I view it as sort of the Doctrine of Conservative Tolerance in Thailand wherein Thailand is a conservative place but it can tolerate people's different proclivities, whatever; "Live and let Live" basically. And when I read this section of the Act, I think that this is a very mature way to handle a rather nettlesome topic which is yes prostitution is illegal but Thai authorities are not overly concerned with what consenting adults do behind closed doors. So what you do behind closed doors is your business as long as how you got there did not meet the elements of prostitution which promiscuity is one of those elements..

Every International Trick or 18 year old girl that is about to enter prostitution that has questions about it they can refer to this transcript and watch the video. What you choose to believe is as my girls say to me: "Up to you"?.

Wink, Wink!

[SubCmdr]

Owner of prostitution den fronting as Karaoke bar arrested Friday and charged by Chacheongsao Police

Undercover sting confirms prostitution offers

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...ongsao-police/

[SubCmdr]

When the ad hominem attacks begin on ISG against me. That is always a sure sign that I have WON the intellectual argument. Since our Registered Democrat, non Thai Citizen, non member of the Thai Bar, pussy whipped mother fucker, that is obsessed with 18 year old girls entering prostitution who lives in Bangkok has lost the intellectual argument. He has moved into the next stage of ad hominem attacks on me. It's ok!

The Cmdr does not care what you think of him!

It should be noted that it has always been possible to share information via personal message on ISG. And information can be exchanged in person. That is how I get the best information on where to hire my prostitutes in Bangkok and Pattaya along with personal experiences which I will continue to post about.

In fact, I made contact with yet another girl on Thai Friendly who lists her age as 18, 155 cm, 45 kg, joined the site 1 week ago. The worries that the Registered Democrat, non Thai Citizen, non member of the Thai Bar, pussy whipped mother fucker, that is obsessed with 18 year old girls entering prostitution, who lives in Bangkok should have no worries.

The Registered Democrat, non Thai Citizen, non member of the Thai Bar, pussy whipped mother fucker, that is obsessed with 18 year old girls entering prostitution, who lives in Bangkok is now discouraging individuals from posting. I am sure each and every International Trick will make their own decision about what information they choose to share or not. Not my concern.

No one from ISG has ever produced a legal opinion that says prostitution is legal in Thailand.

Check Ball!

[EihTooms]

Eih, I am not trying to talk you into anything. If Brazil ain't for you, it ain't for you. Period. But just to close out this conversation I want to clarify one issue. My approximate 25% first tryst BB Vaginal sex stat is based on NO Negotiations / No mention on my part about this specific activity. If I were to bring up the subject during the get to know you / hands on audition phase the result would be very different. I speculate that the acceptance rate would remain at around 25% and an individual with preferences like yourself would merely end the audition and move on. Keep in mind that on any Tuesday through Friday night there are approximately 140 girls hanging out in Scandallo at 10 pm so there would still be plenty of takers (0. 25 x140) so the actual odds of someone like yourself finding what he wanted would be more than sufficient to satisfy, plus nobody would change her mind in the room. Add to that, a punter like yourself can further increase his odd by playing the time game. As we all know, a girl's vagina is a deprecating asset. Every night it's value goes from $$ to zero at closing time. So many punters like to show up at Scandallo at 2 am for this very reason and scoop up girls who haven't scored yet and are looking at that 4 am Scan closing as the end of an unproductive night. I do not have the stats on this, but I will reasonably assume that one's odds of finding a girl receptive to BB Vaginal sex to be much higher after 2 am. OK?.

Good follow up info. Thanks again, AH.

I would say my success rate in enjoying BBFSCIP in the room in a first session with a gogo bargirl, applying the Go With The Flow approach, back when I applied it more often, was less than yours. More like 15-20%. Which is why I don't apply that approach very often anymore. It might be the same for me in Brazil I suppose. A really crappy success rate considering a No to that in the room means taking a huge gamble that the lady's willingness and skills in providing a BBBJCIM isn't horrible. Which would then means no sex or finish for me.

But, yes, my vetting the lady for BBFSCIP upfront before a barfine has been paid and therefore well before we get to the room improved my success rate in actually getting it to 80-85%. Yep, even a Yes in the bar does not guarantee a 100% success rate in the room if the lady then pulls a Jeykll & Hyde transformation, claims to have misunderstood, purposely blocks entry with the stiff legs move, too much wiggling and rapid position shifting and so on.

However, there are methods, locations and players in Thailand that do virtually guarantee to about a 99% certainty a lovely hassle-free BBBJCIM+Swallow, BBFSCIP with genuine affection, always the customer's choice which or both and with well above average lookers age 18 years or slightly above and for very little more baht than the going rate for standard Covered Everything. And I have been lucky enough to discover them through the years.

I would share that info on ISG but since SubCmdr has been on a rampage to bust punters, providers, players and shutdown venues for them being "not legal in Thailand" under his ridiculous premise that legal documents must list and state all of the millions and millions of acts and behaviors that are not a crime in a society rather than the few dozen of them that are sex-related crimes, I cannot do that. I value the pleasure they have provided me over the years too much to have the likes of SubCmdr and whatever army of anti non-criminal P4 P zealots he has gathered by now target them for arrest and shutdown.

[SubCmdr]

Police raids on nightlife venues in Bangkoks Wang Thonglang area as clandestine foreign control grows

Bangkok police have opened a new front against Wang Thonglang's hidden nightlife, raiding 17 venues across three entertainment zones. Two karaoke bars were caught selling alcohol after hours, but police were hunting bigger targets. Prostitution, trafficking, drugs, firearms and illegal nominee businesses were all in their sights.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...control-grows/

[EihTooms]

I'm not that sophisticated, I just wanted to know what he thought was illegal and have him quote something from the Thai legal code that applies to very discreetly done exchange of money for sex. Haven't seen that yet.

Our most observant and skilled reading and comprehension member just can't imagine a man has met a woman in Thailand and before having sex with her she asks for money.

Therefore, he cannot figure out what he thinks of such a thing.

Maybe there was too much complex "legalese" in your question and he needs to consult with a Thai attorney about it first.

But, see, once again SubCmdr cannot help but reveal his true intentions in demanding real names, real locations, real baht amounts, times, dates and so on in order to report that information to Thai authorities on public sites like this one and likely privately to Thai police and anyone else he can goad into harassing, interrogating, investigating, arresting, indicating and sentencing any and all consenting adults in Thailand who so much as discreetly agree to exchange money for sex and then engage in it, despite there being zero evidence of even a sentence in any legally enforceable document forbidding it, identifying it as a crime or it being subject to punishment.

The same with the location of such a discreet agreement, every one of which it is SubCmdr's fervent wish to have the police shut it down!

Don't tell him anything about the particulars of that scenario.

And I would strongly advise everyone else on this site and Forum to keep the details about any successful P4 P in Thailand, who, where, when and how much, totally to themselves and do not, repeat, do not post about it on this site and Forum as long as the likes of SubCmdr are lurking around to read it, declare it "not legal in Thailand", thereby urging authorities over and over and over again to investigate, round up, arrest, interrogate, hassle and shutdown whoever and whatever it is you reported.

He has made it abundantly clear in post after post after post that is his "purpose" in using ISG. Believe him.

[SubCmdr]

I am a simple man too. Just tell me the last time a Pattaya Gentlemen's Club bar or a BKK oily massage parlor was raided and the customers upstairs having a good time were carted away. I'd like to know.

Is group sex (between 918 year old and plus) consenting adults) legal in Thailand?

Simple question: Let's see who answers!

Law enforcement has limited resources that is why the laws of any country are selectively enforced. Just because a law has not been enforced in the past does not mean it cannot be enforced in the future.

Take for example the current enforcement action going on related to nominee structures.

The laws and regulations regarding Thai nominees for foreign property or business ownership have been clear and on the books for a long, long time.

And yet for 20 years they were not enforced.

That is my point in plain language!

Instead of trying to pretend a situation does not exist in Thailand that actually does exist in Thailand, a real man, a true International Trick keeps his situational awareness in tact and operates with his eyes wide open. In the history of ISG no one has ever been able to produce a legal opinion by a member of the bar in Thailand that prostitution is legal in Thailand. Period. Full Stop!

There is intense focus on my position by certain posters bent of providing legal advice illegally here in Thailand. I am not the only one who has read the law and come to a the conclusion that Prostitution is not legal in Thailand.

Read the code. Prostitution IS ILLEGAL in Thailand but it brings in sex tourists and billions $ of revenue a year to the economy, so the government conveniently looks the other way and lets it happens. Prostitution has always been there. It just became outrageous in public since the 60's with America's rowdy GIs on are and are.

What charges did the gevernment file against the people behind FIWFANS and what happened to them since? May be they did not pay their bribes in time?

The news said they were charged with promoting prostitution, pimping, trafficking ect, anything the government can conveniently throw at them.