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  1. #22906
    Quote Originally Posted by Esten  [View Original Post]
    El Group. You can spend countless hours going through the photos and videos in their various Telegram groups. I did. Hundreds of girls. Quality slightly better than Empo. The first one I decided to see was Lala at the El Norte PIK location.
    Great recap and thanks for the feed! Would upvote your post if the forum had the ability +1.

    I've been looking to visit the El Groups but I couldn't justify the rate and worth for the pricing. Was the visit El Norte / EL Fenix exactly 60 mins in the room? No small chit chat before the deed or anything?

    (Even at Emporium, 1. 6 Mill gets you 30 mins in the pool and 60 mins in the room which is 90mins in total) I know the therapists group offer 90 minutes but the girls in the pictures weren't to my liking, they are a tier lower in terms of looks from the LCs (IMO).

    How was traffic by the way? Getting from the city center to El Norte which is at the PIK area must have been a hassle? Gmaps says that it would take around 40-50 minutes depending on your location but Google is always wrong, its more likely a hour or more!? I couldn't imagine sitting in traffic for that long!

  2. #22905
    Quote Originally Posted by Esten  [View Original Post]
    Kota Indah. I visited a few of the KI clubs one evening the first week. Each club had dozens of girls as expected. Sari Ayu seemed to have the most, between 50-100. Had a drink and chatted with a local customer who spoke English. The quality of girls was OK, but with so many it was kind of a blur. No hotties that tempted me. Was able to check the box on KI but did not return due to abundance of other options.

    Overall, I feel I got a decent sampling of the vast Jakarta scene, and will be well-positioned for a return trip.
    Great report! You have highlighted a few new places that I'll definitely remember to try next time.

  3. #22904

    Las Day in Jakarta

    Day 3 – Last Day in Jakarta.

    Woke up around 9:00 AM and grabbed breakfast at the hotel. After heading back to my room, another girl from Tantan reached out on WhatsApp. We agreed on 1.2 M M for two sessions (over here, they use the term "play" instead of "sex" She actually looked better in person than she did on our confirmation video call. Petite and slim, she gave me an incredible time—kissing me everywhere, from my ears and body down to my legs. She even covered her own transport.

    Afterward, I walked over to Mancave Barbershop near Classic Hotel for a quick cleanup, then went back to the room for a nap. Woke up around 4:00 PM feeling up for round Three. I chatted up a few more girls on Tantan and worked out 800 K for one session. She was tall, slim, and provided great service.

    For dinner, I grabbed some local street food and a few drinks, then headed back to get an early night's sleep before my flight to Bali the next morning. Except I woke up at 1:00 AM and realized I hadn't packed a single thing.

    Once I finished packing, I realized Classic was only 5 minutes away. I figured I had enough time to Grab over, hook up with an Indonesian girl, and get back to my room in under an hour—which is exactly what I did!

    All in all, I didn't get around to doing most of the mongering stuff I planned on, but I had a blast anyway. Next stop: Bali. I won't be doing any mongering while I'm there, but after Bali, I'm off to Thailand for my first time. I'll make sure to write up a proper report!

    Bye Jakarta.
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  4. #22903

    Jakarta First Trip. Part 2

    Kota Indah. I visited a few of the KI clubs one evening the first week. Each club had dozens of girls as expected. Sari Ayu seemed to have the most, between 50-100. Had a drink and chatted with a local customer who spoke English. The quality of girls was OK, but with so many it was kind of a blur. No hotties that tempted me. Was able to check the box on KI but did not return due to abundance of other options.

    Classic. I also went to Classic the first week. It was a mid-evening stop after a good session at another place. So I just went to have a drink to finish the evening. Checked out all three clubs. Settled in T2 where a mamasan named Cha Cha latched onto me. Sat down at a table in her area but explained I was just there to look and have a beer. Soon two girls came over and stood close to me. Both young, slim and cute. One is lively and talkative, while the other is quiet and looking away. Chat for a couple minutes then I sent them off. Then another girl came over, this one young and busty. Amazing cleavage right in front of me as we chat. Eventually I'm like fuk it I got to fuck her tits. Yes, Cha Cha won LOL. Went to a room and blew my second load of the night between her natural DDs. 375 K + 100 K tip. I came back to Classic one afternoon to visit the spa on the lower floor. Took a 90 minute "VIP Lulur" which included a 30 minute body scrub and a 1 h massage. The therapist was assigned, a pleasant but average looking lady. Service was professional and she worked hard. He offered but declined. I didn't like the room much, it had a faint moldy smell. But the body scrub did my body good. Cost was 525 K and I gave a 100 K tip. There are also non-massage girls available starting at 4 pm. Silver level 610 K and Gold 800 K per hour. On my way out I saw one arriving and she looked real good.

    Delta Spa. I went to Delta because it's a high end spa chain and I was hoping to get an actual massage from a good looking girl, and I also wanted to try their shockwave treatment. Went 3 X, to three different locations: Delta Spa Gatsu, Delta Harmoni and Delta Grand Wijaya. They don't do lineups, you are just assigned a therapist. First time did 2 h which included a shockwave treatment first and then a longer massage. I got a good looking girl with a natural see cup. Session was on a tatami mat and the girl stayed clothed. He was included but I tipped extra to get her clothes off and a tittyfuck finish. She cleaned me up in the shower after and got me hard, she almost stroked another load out but I had her stop. She was fun and also chatty and inquisitive. Gave me her WhatsApp and checked in with me a couple times during my trip, but I did not see her again. Cost was 1550 K /2 h plus 600 K tip = 2150 K. Second and third time I just did the shockwave with no massage. This still included a he. These sessions were 900 K plus I gave a small tip. The attendants were fine but not as good as the first girl. As for the shockwave, I can't say it moved the dial for me much. Though I did not complete the recommended minimum 6 sessions.

    Be Fashion Spa. This spa is inside the be Fashion Hotel next to Central Park Mall. Typical bracelet and locker setup. Took a shower to clean up and put on a robe. The lounge was nice and spacious with about 10 customers and 30 girls. Sat down at a table and had a drink. After awhile I got a lineup. They had both massage and escort options. Got good vibes from one of the freelancers and chose her. Young and attractive. The room was good, a small hotel room. She was GFE and we ended with a BBBJCIM. Cost was 750 K + 300 K tip + 275 K room + 100 K drinks = 1425 K.

    Emporium. Went 3 X. The place is really nice with a large lounge area where the girls are in two sections LV and LB. The private rooms are top-notch with jacuzzi, shower, bed and mirrors. First visit got a lineup and learned it can be damn tough making a selection! I picked a girl named Alda. Cute with natural see cup. Pool time was good though would have liked it a little more raunchy. There were other couples in the pool. Alda was solid in the room though. Great time, full GFE. Second time I went with Baby. The photos made her look more glam and "less Asian" than real-life. Great bod, she looked like a Miss Indonesia finalist in her bikini. Natural the-cup. In the room she seemed a bit inexperienced and the session was average. Third time I got a lineup again which had two I was interested in from the photos. Berlin and Vanesa. Berlin didn't look at me, but Vanesa smiled back at me. Guess who I picked. Once again, Vanesa's photos made her look more glam and "less Asian" than real-life. She was also tall. Had a good time. All three girls provided BBBJ and were the more expensive LV level. Total costs were about the same: 2100 K + 200 K tip + around 100 K for drinks / other tips for a total of about 2400 K each visit. Overall Alda was my favorite here.

    Tease Club. This is the club up the elevator from Emporium. I stopped in one night after a session at Empo. They only have four drink options included with the entry fee- water, Corona, orange juice, coke. It wasn't too busy initially but picked up later. Loud techno music, DJ, dancers on stage at times. Did not want to pay for an expensive booth so just had a beer at one of the high tops. Bought a drink for a dancer named Indri. Not my type physically, but fun and good personality. I learned the dancers are available for private sessions. But I just hung out and drank with Indri for an hour. Good finish to the evening. Total was 100 K entry (with 50 K spa receipt discount) + 300 K dancer drink. While not required I tipped Indri 200 K for her time.

    El Group. You can spend countless hours going through the photos and videos in their various Telegram groups. I did. Hundreds of girls. Quality slightly better than Empo. The first one I decided to see was Lala at the El Norte PIK location. Slim, busty and fun demeanor in her photos and videos. She looked a bit more Caucasian, a little less Asian. But it turned out to be massive photoshop. Still good looking and sexy but an exotic Asian look. Huge DDs. We started in the shower and I was quickly rock hard as she soaped me up. She knelt down and started blowing me very good. Continued on the bed with CIM. Great time and best BJ of the trip. Room was small though. She was Model level so cost was 1600 K and I gave a 300 K tip. Second was a Platinum girl at El Spa Pangjay. Picked her from a lineup, attractive girl though small chest. Room was a large hotel room. She didn't do BBBJ though, so I just did a massage and a long edging HJ. Cost was 960 K + 100 K tip. Third girl was a Model at El Fenix. She looked hot in her photos and videos. I made a reservation and showed up on time. But when I arrived I was informed she was in KTV and not available. Two guys took turns trying to get me to pick someone else, but I felt I was being treated like a sucker. So I was insistent they had to respect my appointment. They tried hard, mentioning she was a bit drunk too. I politely but firmly did not relent. In the end I got to see her, but had to wait 20 minutes while she got ready. I think they pulled her out of the KTV. Then in the room she strung me along for half an hour with stupid shit like finishing getting ready, making tea, etc. She asked me to extend to 2 h but I declined. We got in the shower and it was business-like not sensual, and then a knock came on the door where she told me we had 10 minutes left. At this point I bailed, got dressed and left. She was an absolute disaster. And I learned a valuable lesson here: listen to the guys when they try to steer you to someone else. I got the sense this girl was an entitled princess who preferred KTV for easy money and was used to getting her way. At least that was the best I could make of it. This little adventure cost me 1700 K.

    Kimochi Mabes. Stumbled on this place during one of my long walks. There were about 20 girls sitting around. No other customers. The guy behind the desk was sleeping. I had a drink and then walked around to get a better look since there was no lineup. Aside from a couple of attractive / hot ones, the quality was fair to average. I was turned down by the hot ones LOL. End up picking a girl named Erna who was friendly to me. Just did a massage as I was going to another place later anyways. Cost was 390 K and I gave 100 K tip.

    BATS. I went to BATS one evening. In the Shangri-La Hotel. Entry included 1 drink. Casual club with relaxed vibe, square bar with dimmed lighting and seating all around. Across from the bar was a stage, and to the side a separate more open area with table seating. Live band on stage doing rock covers, they were good. Place was 3/4 full. About 20-30 ladies with or looking for company. Range 6-7. 5. I ended up with a fun 30-something lady who was thick and very busty. Shared a table with a German guy and his "date". Had drinks and good times for almost 2 h. My girl let me know we could spend a few hours together for 2 M. Her friend was actually more persistent in telling me a couple times to take her home LOL. I'm sure I would have had a good time, but I wanted to wait for better quality so I tipped her 500 K for her time and called it a night. We had some WhatsApp chat the next day where she let me know she was available anytime, and included a sexy pic. Overall I liked BATS but it's not a place for hotties. Total 200 K entry, 235 K drink for girl, 15 K tip bartender, 500 K tip = 950 K.

    CJ's. Went here one evening as well. In the Hotel Mulia. Entry included 1 drink. Much larger and more upscale than BATS. Live band, too vanilla though. Perhaps 30-40 working girls scattered in the main and side areas, and equal number of guys maybe more. Quality was OK / good but only a few that seemed like possible options. Chatted with a couple ladies but mostly with a fellow punter who had been here many times. I got one quote of 3 M, didn't discuss how long. At one point I spotted a sultry beauty standing by the bar alone, smiling back at me confidently. I had to chat with her. She was from Sumatra. Almost pulled her, but wavered and decided to just get her WhatsApp for future contact. Another good place for freelancers, quality higher than BATS.

    Colloseum Club. This is the club connected with 1001. It was small, I was expecting something much more impressive. Apparently the actual main club is closed for renovations until next year. So this smaller venue is just temporary I believe. There were several booths which over time filled up with groups of Asian men who invited multiple girls to join them. Then a section with high tops where I sat. Had a drink and watched the periodic sets where dancers came out in groups of 4-5 and danced on a long strip down the middle of the club. I was approached by a couple of girls for company only once, but declined. Some of the dancers were hot. Didn't have a great time so left after 45 minutes. Never made it to 1001.

    Malio Club / Malio Lounge. I did not make it to Malio until the last week of the trip. It turned out to be so good that aside from a couple of regular massages I did all my remaining sessions here. The first visit was the day after the disaster mentioned above. In the afternoon I had already done a BBBJCIM at be Fashion Spa. So I figured the visit to Malio in the evening would just be for recon. Arrived around 10 pm and checked out the club first. The talent was off the charts, easily the best looking girls of the entire trip. I walked over to the lounge area and there was another selection of ladies there, both Indo and international. Good quality here too but the club was better. Though I did see a very hot young Russian girl. Went back to the club and hooked up with a girl who approached me. Slim, naturally busty and attractive, she was a 9 and the hottest girl of the trip. Incredible tits. I figured out that to avoid getting constantly interrupted to buy more drinks, you can just buy a tray of 20 drinks (1. 2 M) which gets you 30 minutes with the girl. The girl was up for it but suggested we go upstairs for more privacy. She assured me it wouldn't cost more. So we went up to the second level in one of the spacious booth areas. There were not a lot of people up there so even though the booth was open it was still semi-private. We chatted and she got up and straddled me on the couch, which led to a lot of groping and feasting on her tits. I unzipped and she didn't miss a beat. Soon my dick was out and rock hard while she stroked. She quickly had me in a daze of lust as she started to explain the options. Kinda hard to resist at that point. I opted for a BJ in the booth which was another 20 drinks. She called the club staff over to bring the drinks and this time they closed the curtain. We fooled around a bit more then she knelt down between my legs and blew me to completion BBBJCIM. A true strip club fantasy experience. I went back to see her again another night, the only repeat of the trip. Same routine but after BBBJ we switched to a baby oil tittyfuck and I busted between her DDs. Fantastic visuals. Total cost for each visit was about 2900 K and I gave 250 K tips to the girl and staff. On my last night I came back to Malio to see the hot Russian from the lounge. We had a private room with a bed and shower. She was nice and accomodating, but seemed inexperienced. BBBJ was subpar and overall session was fair / average. Still glad I got to see her. Cost was 3600 K + 200 K tip for the papasan.

    The top 2 girls of the trip were Lala and the Malio club girl. However, they both said they work in the club 6 days a week. I asked the Malio girl about a hotel visit but she said she only works in the club. This is a challenge if the best ones are not easily available for outside dates.

    In the end I didn't bring any guests back to my hotel. I did however do 5 massage sessions at the hotels, 3 in the hotel spa and 2 in my room. Loved the convenience and low cost and options. A 90 minute massage was around 500 K at the 4-star hotels and 800 K at the 5-star. Tip request for special service (hand) started at 1-2 M but was negotiable down to 500 K. I tipped 1 M for one of the in-room massages but there was next level service.

    Overall, I feel I got a decent sampling of the vast Jakarta scene, and will be well-positioned for a return trip.

  5. #22902

    Day 2

    Day 2 in Jakarta.

    I wasn't really feeling the loud club or bar scene. Instead, I downloaded TanTan in the morning and dropped about $6 for a week of premium. It paid off—I got around 30 matches in the first 12 hours and started chatting with a few different girls. Most of them were quoting between 700 k and 1.5 m for a single shot, and 1 m to 1.8 m for two. She paid her grab both ways.

    By the way, the Luminor Hotel has an awesome breakfast buffet and is super guest-friendly. I ended up having one of the girls come over to the room around noon (settled on 1 m for two shots).

    In the evening, I headed out solo to a rooftop bar in South Jakarta. That part of town is really nice! Got back to the hotel pretty late and lined up another girl—same deal, 1 m for two shots. She paid her grab to the hotel and I paid her grab to return home.

    Tomorrow's plan: check out Classic Spa and maybe hit up a few other spots.
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  6. #22901

    Trip to Jakarta

    Day 1 — Arrived in Jakarta for the first time!

    I was too tired when I arrived, so I decided to sleep for about two hours. After waking up, I went to exchange money at Dolarindo Money Changer & Remittance Samanhudi, which is next to Classic. There are also several ATMs inside Classic, on the left before you enter the lobby.

    Since Luminor Hotel Pecenongan was recommended here, I decided to stay there. There's also a BCA ATM inside a small convenience store next to the hotel. I also realized that Emporium is right next to the hotel, which is very convenient.

    Back at Classic, I went to T2 first and WOW—this place reminded me of Scandalo in São Paulo because of the sheer number of women. Based on my limited experience, it seemed to be frequented mostly by Koreans, Japanese, and locals.

    At first, I felt a little ignored by the staff and mamasans. I actually had to call one of the waitresses over so I could order a beer and some food. After almost 30 minutes, a mamasan finally approached me and asked if I wanted a lineup, so I said yes.

    I ended up choosing one of the girls recommended by the mamasan. Her English wasn't very good, but we managed to communicate using Google Translate. After spending some time together, I left and continued exploring.

    After that, I went to T5. As soon as I entered, I noticed that the atmosphere was more relaxed. A mamasan approached me almost immediately and asked if I wanted a lineup. I said yes, ordered a beer, and quickly chose someone before heading to a private room.

    I also checked out T1. It felt like a mix between T2, T5, and a traditional bar. There were fewer girls, but the prices were higher—just over 600 K. T2 and T5 were around 375 K.

    I had 3 sessions, none of them tried CBJ, 2 asked for condom and I said no, that I would tip them for BBFS and they accepted. All 3 of them I did CIP and they didn't complaint.

    I'll be in Jakarta for two more days before flying to Bali, so I still have plenty of time to explore the city and see what else Jakarta has to offer.

  7. #22900
    Quote Originally Posted by Esten  [View Original Post]
    I spent a month in Indonesia earlier this year and what an intriguing discovery it was.

    TRAVEL. It was my first time to SEA. Getting to Indonesia is a doozy. By far the longest trip I've had, 24 hours terminal to terminal with two flights 13 h /9 h and a 2 h layover. There are no direct flights from the US. Between the travel time and the serious jetlag, this trip reinforced my long held belief that it doesn't make sense to go to SEA for just a week vacation.
    I hear what you're saying but some people don't have an entire month of vacation.

    My long-held belief is that it's great to fuck some asians with whatever time you have.

  8. #22899

    Please free up your inbox space

    Bro, delete some messages and free up your inbox and DM me please.

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryReams  [View Original Post]
    Yes it can be hit or miss with the lighting and camera angles I try to use two mobile phones in landscape one on tripod or fixed location the other in hand. Low light sadly doesn't get the quality you want for still photos.

  9. #22898

    Jakarta First Trip. Part 1

    I spent a month in Indonesia earlier this year and what an intriguing discovery it was. I've been sitting on this review for a few months and it's time to get it out. I have a ton of notes. This first post will be logistics and general impressions. Then a second post to chronicle all the venues I visited and ladies I met.

    TRAVEL. It was my first time to SEA. Getting to Indonesia is a doozy. By far the longest trip I've had, 24 hours terminal to terminal with two flights 13 h /9 h and a 2 h layover. There are no direct flights from the US. Between the travel time and the serious jetlag, this trip reinforced my long held belief that it doesn't make sense to go to SEA for just a week vacation.

    COST. Indonesia is inexpensive. Wow. With the IDR vs. Dollar near 18000, a lot of basic stuff is often 50% cheaper than western countries. I did some price checks for fun. I will use 17000 as a conservative exchange rate. A Wendy's Dave Single combo was 96000/$5. 64; a Starbucks refresher was 55000/$3. 24; an iced coffee was 36000/$2. 11; movie tickets were 25000-45000/$1. 50-2. 50; a pedicure was 203000/$11.94. These would all be double or more in the US. Everyday items like food, transit, laundry, etc. Were generally much cheaper. Hotels too. Other consumer goods were not though (eg, runners).

    ACCOMODATIONS. The affordability of the hotels was a huge factor and a pleasant surprise. Often when you travel to less expensive destinations, the big hotel chains still get you with their inflated USD rates. Not in Indonesia. I stayed in six different hotels, and never paid more than $100/ night. The low was $34/ night, the high $97/ night, and the average $58/ night. All 4 and 5 star hotels. I can't overstate the convenience and peace of mind of staying in quality hotels on this trip, at rates which felt like saving money compared to other trips. The massage services in the hotels were an added bonus. I will list the hotels in their separate thread, but you should be able to connect the dots with my next post.

    ENTERTAINMENT. I'll have all the details of the venues and ladies in my next post. But the selection was vast and generally inexpensive. Not being overly into Asian women helped, otherwise my head would have been spinning. Generally I find them more pretty than sexy. What I would call a true Asian hottie is rare, though I did see a few. While most of the girls were slim and small chested, fortunately there were also plenty of options for bustier girls, sometimes enhanced but usually natural. It was fun hunting.

    FOOD. I didn't sample a ton of local food. Just a bit. Had Nasi Goreng many times, great stuff. The vendors on the street were as low as 15000 which is less than a buck. Most expensive was 50000. Soto Ayam was good. Ayam Pete Kecap was OK. Most meals were in the hotel, in malls, or on the street. I didn't see a lot of restaurants outside the malls, so only sampled a few of them.

    CLIMATE. It didn't rain too much. But the heat and humidity were rough. Most days it was like a sauna walking outside. I often went through two sets of clothes each day, showering and changing around dinner time to be fresh and ready for the evening. This necessitated a weekly laundry run. I found a drop off place that charged in the range 50000-70000 per load which is just $3-4. Some places will do pickup / delivery too. When heading out for a day I would typically plan to ensure at some point I was near a mall or other place where I could get food / drink and cool off. Starbucks was an almost daily stop.

    LOCAL TRANSPORT. I used Grab and it mostly worked well. Loved the motorbike option, used it many times. Occasionally, a Grab was not available in a timely manner so I took a Bluebird on the street. It was sometimes cheaper too. In one more extreme example, Grab was 50000 and a 10 minute wait; I just took a Bluebird on the street and it was 12000. One thing that happens sometimes is that Grab takes a route that gets you to the side of the street of your location, as it should. But this can add a lot of distance, doing a loop to get you on the correct side. With Bluebird you just tell the driver your destination or intersection, and they will go straight there and if needed you just walk across the street when you get there. When there is no Bluebird nearby though, you are stuck with the ride app and the wait time can be ridiculous at certain times of day. Grab will sometimes also string you along for half an hour claiming the wait is just ten minutes. I also took a Bajaj a few times, they can be good for going short distances fast, but they will jack up the price with a bule tax. You can negotiate. The buses and metro are the cheapest and good for longer distance if a station is near, but even so the difference vs. Grab will only be a few bucks. With all options being fairly cheap, convenience is really a deciding factor.

    MONEY. Possibly my biggest mistake was not bringing enough cash. I only brought about $700 USD. I learned the ATMs don't have high limits. So I ended up going to an ATM 3-4 X a week. It was a PITA. Fortunately I had a no-fee debit card. Some shopping mall ATMs only dispense 500 K. After some trial and error I mostly used locations with Sinarmas ATMs, which had a 3 M limit. BNI was good too. Next time I will bring more cash. Crisp, clean $100 US bills get the best exchange rate. The largest bill is 100000 IDR which is unfortunate, your wallet or money belt will be bulging if bringing several million IDR for an evening out.

    GENERAL. In advance I had done a ton of research, here and on SMF. And it seems a lot of people don't think much of the city of Jakarta. I see their point, but, I am in the glass half full camp on this one. We make of each destination what we choose to think and plan and do, and there is a lot to work with in Jakarta. The pollution didn't bother me. The heat and humidity did, but you adjust. I did many long walks in different parts of the city. The Metro red line was convenient to get to various areas as a starting point. Or ride app. I probably walked 20 miles in the city. Checked out several of the malls and tourist points. Sarinah was one of the better areas I found to hang out. Kept up my exercise with running and swimming. Got plenty of massages. I also took a 5-day side trip to Yogya, more on that later.

    Sidebar: From the reports it was clear that some form of PEP / PREP might be appropriate for this trip. I never did this before, but the reports convinced me. I had zero interest in BBFS on this trip, but BBBJ's are important. I decided on 100 MG doxycycline every other day. Not the most rigorous regimen, but it fit my comfort level and all turned out well.

    Next up the venues I visited: Kota Indah, Classic, Delta Spa, be Fashion, Emporium, Tease Club, El Group (Norte, Spa Pangjay, Fenix), Kimochi Mabes, BATS, CJ's, Colloseum Club, Malio Club, Malio Lounge.

  10. #22897
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianRain  [View Original Post]
    In the past when phones had not developed, I used a HFM40 video camera with an external light. Now mobile phones have developed and I use a Samsung S-series mobile phone. Two things to consider. One, are you sufficiently dexterous and limber to hold your phone in the air while you fuck in mish? Getting really memorable POV shots means you need to keep your device centered while you perform. Easier said than done. Second, whatever kit you use, getting a good quality shoot depends much more on light than phone lens specs.

    If you want an example of both aspects, look at the pics (or screen caps) done by "Maxtreme" in the Photo Gallery. Poor lighting. Poor framing. Expensive hotel rooms are the worst lighting anywhere to shoot homemade porn. Good luck. IMHO shooting real quality homemade POV porn takes a lot of effort to develop the skill. AR.
    Yes it can be hit or miss with the lighting and camera angles I try to use two mobile phones in landscape one on tripod or fixed location the other in hand. Low light sadly doesn't get the quality you want for still photos.

  11. #22896
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone out here have any experience, has anyone made professional videos with their girls. Do you use mobile phones or professional cameras with a tripod or glasses fitted with camera like a spy cam for POV. .
    In the past when phones had not developed, I used a HFM40 video camera with an external light. Now mobile phones have developed and I use a Samsung S-series mobile phone. Two things to consider. One, are you sufficiently dexterous and limber to hold your phone in the air while you fuck in mish? Getting really memorable POV shots means you need to keep your device centered while you perform. Easier said than done. Second, whatever kit you use, getting a good quality shoot depends much more on light than phone lens specs.

    If you want an example of both aspects, look at the pics (or screen caps) done by "Maxtreme" in the Photo Gallery. Poor lighting. Poor framing. Expensive hotel rooms are the worst lighting anywhere to shoot homemade porn. Good luck. IMHO shooting real quality homemade POV porn takes a lot of effort to develop the skill. AR.

  12. #22895

    Photos and videos

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I plan to take it to the next level with my girl and wish to shoot a proper video. I have made movies in the past using my mobile phone but the quality is just not good enough, pictures are shaky and can't hear much. Does anyone out here have any experience, has anyone made professional videos with their girls. Do you use mobile phones or professional cameras with a tripod or glasses fitted with camera like a spy cam for POV. I have her consent and she is game for all sorts of kinks.
    I use the Sony RX100 Mark Va and DJI Osmo Pocket 3 as my current setup.

    Also the Olympus EM5 Mark 3 with the 12/2.0 lens with an LED flash or external flashgun.

    For the highest quality, I use the Nikon Z6.2 at 4 K with the Rode Videomic Pro mounted on a tripod.

    I have about 600 GB of content over the past 20 years+.

  13. #22894
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Once you get there, you will see they are all so close together that you can walk past all the venues in 3-4 minutes if you don't enter any of them. It's a small rectangular area.

    In around 10 visits I can't say I've noticed any one bar having better quality than others myself. They all seem the same to me, so I wouldn't have an agenda myself. Some days the prettiest girl was in this bar, other days in that bar, so I just walk through them all until I find one I like, and then restart if I didn't find anyone.

    Seating / viewing arrangements suck, but eventually I've gotten used to it, and it's become less of a problem than the first time, when I thought it really sucked compared to Classic.
    Numbers is the best way I can describe success at KI. If you go there once, the story you'll tell may not be good. If you go to KI 10 times, you'll wander into the multiple locations a few times each visit, and you'll end up trying out 3 to 4 places by the time you've completed the 10 visits. You'll have 2 amazing stories to tell. Go to KI 100 times, and you would have visited each location for a good time at least 15 times each, and have 2 memorable stories to tell from each location. The others were forgettable, though you still remember having a nice time, got your rocks off, and all for a cheap price. It's all based on the numbers. The more you go, the more you'll find memorable moments. But for sure, not 100% of those visits will be awesome.

  14. #22893

    Video making

    Hi guys,

    I plan to take it to the next level with my girl and wish to shoot a proper video. I have made movies in the past using my mobile phone but the quality is just not good enough, pictures are shaky and can't hear much. Does anyone out here have any experience, has anyone made professional videos with their girls. Do you use mobile phones or professional cameras with a tripod or glasses fitted with camera like a spy cam for POV. I have her consent and she is game for all sorts of kinks.

  15. #22892
    Quote Originally Posted by Member#3088  [View Original Post]
    Yea, sure, their life ambition is to work in a cheap brothel in Jakarta. If you thing the majority are not indentured, you are kidding yourself.

    The classic girls are mostly from rural poor West Java families who are sacrificing themselves to educate siblings and support their parents. They deserve not only respect, but a sizeable tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    OS is just a little puzzled about this constant stream of announcements that punter ABC will be coming to Jakarta and that they will be going to establishment A and Establishment be. It is most likely extremely exciting for the proponent, the anticipation and the research, but it doesn't turn the dial for a reader. There's also a dedicated page for those who want to announce they are coming to Jakarta.

    The reality is that it isn't like the movies. You jump in a crappy old taxi at the airport, filled with complementary mosquitoes and wind your way through the rubbish strewn streets to a hotel somewhere that probably reflects your budget, where you begin your long anticipated holiday.

    The girls you are about to meet are from across the spectrum. Indonesia has limited opportunities for young people and for some this is the only option available. To be sitting on the other side of the world dictating what is acceptable in your dealings with them is a tone deaf to their reality.

    The truth is that Jakarta doesn't care about you. It's a big place and the machinations of sex for sale here are not something some huffing and puffing on a forum like this are going to influence. It's a liquid enough market that you can quite reliably predict how your base experience will play out. The trick is being able to supercharge that experience with a little empathy and finesse and starting your experience from an absolute position is probably not going to get you there. Loving Jakarta girls is probably your best starting point.
    These posts are spot on. I wish this forum had the like button for posts.

    I had a recent very good experience at Emporium, my first time there. Saw the lineups of the two groups of ladies, and all of the more expensive ones had big titties and were a little thicker. There were 5 or 6 of them at around 8 pm. The other group had more slender girls, about 10-12 of them. It was tough to pick one. I wish there was a chance for some smalltalk before picking a girl.

    Anyway, chose a cute one who turned out to be completely flat-chested. We had about 10 minutes in the pool, which was great. Some grinding and DFK before she asked if I wanted to go to the room. There were two other guys there without ladies, which seemed odd but didn't inhibit us.

    In the room, she fulfilled my oral desires with CIM. It took me a while since I had been drinking, and she never complained. Still time afterwards for some smalltalk and relaxing.

    While relatively expensive, the girls and facilities were vastly superior to Classic. Worth the up spend if you can manage it. Will return next visit to Jakarta.

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