Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[SubCmdr]

Bro, I would exchange information with you if I had any. I have only been in Tulips one time to look around. My tour guide says you can make any request as long as you do it privately and discreetly. There was a line up of 8 girls. Two that I liked. But the tour was not over and I much more to see. With the exception of Tulips none of the places I was shown have ever been covered here on ISG. I know this for sure because named searched and I was the first person to mention Mira. Then a senior member has a problem with my post a month after I made it.

Thanks for the facetious reply, hope it made you feel better as you obviously need cheering up. Not sure what I did to offend you but attitudes & replies like yours are perhaps why ISG is losing it's appeal to a huge number of punters. You've made a snap-judgement without knowing ANY of the facts or history. Commenting that it's confusing & annoying is just a personal statement & not some sort of edict that you seem to be implying I'm making.

I have commented plenty of times in the past and share my experiences so it's not like I don't contribute & hope this is a two-way street for the sharing of information, that is what a forum is after all, correct? Secondly please point to where I was expecting a swarm of answers, I clearly didn't / don't. Likewise your comment that you suggest public flogging for insolence is not only infantile & uncalled for but a very bad attempt at humour (stick to you day-job if you have one?

Lastly, this is not my first rodeo & I've been to BKK many times so I know how the system works etc, but I'm older & wiser now & rather than running round BKK (during monsoon season no less) & getting BOTG, I was hoping (obviously incorrectly) that fellow punters may share some basic info that would improve my chances of finding exactly what I'm looking for & allow for a better personal experience. I'm sorry that is such a BIG ask in your opinion.

I am glad you decided to push back. You have nailed it. Senior members have lost what it means to exchange information. Check out the attitude of this Senior member:

Now I am so glad I didn't keep you updated on those specifics here because you have made it abundantly clear in plain language that your mission is to do and say whatever possible to get these "not legal" in your mind activities and participants arrested, indicted, sentenced and shut down even if the law can't find a Citation or Section in any legal document to apply against them. I won't hand you ammunition in this obvious mission of yours. I value the good places and ladies that have facilitated great P4 P experiences for me in Thailand too much.

I would also suggest anyone else on this ISG Forum to be very, very cautious about sharing positive info about those things here as well

So there you have it in plain language. I don't know how other Senior members feel about his statement. But no one else has pushed back against it. I am a senior member and I continue to exchange information. A ISG brother wrote to ask me for the profile names of the new 18 and 19 year olds on Thai Friendly. I sent them to him most ricky tick. They are not my girls just my turn. Some senior members have yet to learn this.

Are you aware WithNailAndI that not a single member of the bar in Thailand has ever given a legal opinion that prostitution in Thailand is legal?

On a personal note: I'll meet any Senior Member at the Bus Bar, in Tree Town, Pattaya, Thailand if they wish to serve me court papers. Not concerned about it because I keep a Thai Attorney on retainer. But you better have your health insurance paid up. Make sure you are not writing a check that your ass can't cash. Because I will have a golf wedge in my hand. I like to practice my short game and afterwards have a drink. That is why I will have it with me.

ROTFLMAO!

[EihTooms]

In plain language and without question.

Exactly what was your problem with my post about Mira the club that I actually provided information on my experience when I went into to the club, but you were looking at the club from the outside and watching YouTube videos about it?

Do you have any proof that I have ever did this?

Maybe you didn't understand me when I posted information on: Sections 326-333.

Defamation in Thailand is primarily governed by Sections 326-333 of the Thai Criminal Code, which criminalize acts that impair another person's reputation. Section 326 defines basic defamation as imputing anything to a third person in a manner likely to expose the victim to hatred or scorn, punishable by imprisonment of up to one year or a fine of up to 20,000 Baht.

Aggravated defamation, known as Section 328 (Defamation by Publication), applies when the offense is committed via documents, films, broadcasts, or online platforms. This carries heavier penalties of imprisonment not exceeding two years and a fine not exceeding 200,000 Baht.

EihTooms can consider himself informed along with all other International Tricks unfamiliar with the laws in Thailand.

Is that in plain enough language for you!

Check Ball!

SubCmdr, if you don't want to be hated and scorned by members of this Forum maybe you should stop defaming, impairing the reputation of and imputing in a manner likely to expose every other member of ISG to hatred and scorn by continually and repeatedly asserting on this online platform that what virtually every one of us post about regarding the mere exchange of money for sex with consenting adults age 18 and older in Thailand "is not legal in Thailand" and therefore makes all of us sex criminals?

Otherwise, you might find yourself the target of a class-action complaint to the authorities for precisely the Sections of the Thai Criminal Code that you have so generously cited and more than once. That's a lot of members here who have admitted to what you continually and repeatedly in post after post try to make a case for the powers that be in Thailand to arrest, charge, prosecute and sentence us for being sex criminals.

Which, if you succeed in your apparent mission to accomplish exactly that, is a hell of a lot more defaming and impairing to the reputation of everyone on this Forum than simply pointing out what you are literally telling the world on this public online platform about us, our behavior and our activities in post after post.

What were those Sections again? Oh yes. Has everyone made a note of that? Keep it handy.

[EihTooms]

29 busted, massive fine threatened after Pattaya sex party

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/29-...x-party-208911

Great! Another report that serves as a perfect example for no arrests "for prostitution", as in the mere exchange of money for sex among consenting adults, and instead for other things. LOL. And you had to go all the way back to 2018 to find it for me.

Thanks:

29 busted, massive fine threatened after Pattaya sex party
May 4, 2018

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/29-...x-party-208911

Police arrested 28 naked foreigners and Thais in a raid of sex party at an illegal hotel in Pattaya.
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The hotel, featuring 30 rooms and a play zone spread over a rai of property, has been open for five years, but was never licensed.
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Pattaya police have asked Banglamung District Chief Naris Niramaiwong to close the hotel and after calculating the fines and per-day penalties for such an offense, recommend to Chon*buri Province that owner, Chinese national Xeng-chai Yang, 53, be fined 18 million baht.

He also was arrested and additionally faces charges of offering sexual services, public indecency, encouraging public indecency, and operating an illegal sex business.

Staffers were forced to serve the swinging guests hot tea, clean up their mess and even join in the sex games, Naris said.

The district chief added that the hotel had openly advertised its weekend sex parties on the internet, but admitted authorities remained oblivious to it until receiving a complaint.

Yes, as I have warned you before, don't patronize publicly-advertized illegal prostitution establishments, don't force anyone to participate in your prostitution party and don't do your naughty business openly in front of the hotel staff. Oh, and if you are thinking of running a commercial sex for money / prostitution establishment, be prepared to get busted and fined.

However, as you can see in your linked report, you and any other consenting adults who are exchanging sex for money behind closed doors will not get busted for that. Therefore, avoid the prostitution-related violations clearly cited in your report and you and your party have not done anything illegal or a crime in Thailand.

But I've got to ask; did you know that report would only support my contentions about prostitution and refute yours when you found it and posted it or did you just learn about that now?

[HSendatsu]

5. So, guess what: the Mullahs and the USA did not reach a deal, and it looks like Trump is going to wipe them off the face of the planet after the November elections. Anyway, this is the current worldwide opinion and whether it foretells the future or not, WTI crude oil prices are back up to $100/ barrel AND Airline tickets to BKK are super expensive again. Quelle surprise!

Proof:

Maybe that's what's happening in the (Dis) USA. My experience is quite the opposite. In the last month tickets to BKK have fallen 50-100€, while oil has surged.

[Axel Heyst]

So, the SubCmdr took a quote from one of my posts entitled "The Effect of Geopolitical Events on Oil Prices on Airline Tickets" in the American Politics thread that had nothing to do with his prostitution rants in this particular thread and then he used my quote in the Rants thread to bolster whatever he is trying to bolster here. You are very dishonest and confused, Mr. Sub, and I honestly believe you are having a mental breakdown. Maybe it is time you to take a break from you hyper posting and personal attacks so you can compose yourself a little and get your head straight.

I thought that prostitution is illegal in Thailand was more or less obvious if you read the law and understood the English Language. But the law is not written in the English Language or plain language. It is legal language, written in the Thai Language.

If you want to believe that a non-Thai citizen, non-member of the Thai bar knows more than they do that is fine with me. But let me remind you that in the history of ISG no one has ever produced a legal opinion from a member of the bar in Thailand that says prostitution is legal in Thailand. This is and remains a undisputed fact. Until someone does that they they are just offering up their lay opinion. Which is the same thing I am doing as I am not a Thai citizen nor a member of the bar in Thailand.

Proof:

I thought this was more or less obvious, but perhaps I was wrong, so let me explain these variables using myself as a real-life example.

1. So, I was in Sao Paulo in May & June 2026 having a real good time with my branca mistress every night and hitting the SP clinicas every other afternoon for a little variety. But then I started thinking it was a fucking long time since I was in the LOS, and I kind of missed the place.

2. But the Iran War was kicking up a fuss (the interruption of gulf oil tanker flow) and WTI (West Texas Intermediate) crude oil prices had gone over $100/ barrel. I knew that would have a negative effect on Airline tickets to BKK, but I took a look see anyway and yep, prices were sky high, so I put my idea on hold.

3. In July I was back home in the free state of Florida (mango season) and all the news was about a possible deal between the USA and the Mullahs and WTI (crude oil) prices were back around $72/ barrel, so I took a look at Airline ticket prices to BKK again and guess what? They had gone down more than the price of crude. I guessed that demand for air travel and declined substantially when oil was above $100 and had not picked up sufficiently YET since oil was back under $75/ barrel and thus the airlines' nonlinear profit maximizing algorithms were telling the airlines to lower their seat price to sell a bunch of tickets and stimulate demand. In other words, I saw an opportunity to get what I wanted, a ticket to BKK as part of an around the world series of flights at a really good price.

4. So, I started shopping around for tickets to fly from MIA to GRU to BKK to FLL. The cheapest flights from GRU to BKK changed planes in the Gulf. The next cheapest flights changed planes in Istanbul. And the most expensive flights, although historically still a pretty good, changed flights in Paris or Amsterdam, or Germany. There were no transpacific flights from GRU to BKK. I knew instantly the Emirates were too risky no matter how cheap it was. The Istanbul route was the most reasonable and made a lot of sense, but what got me to pay up for one of the most expensive route was that GRU to AMS was on KLM and the connecting flight to BKK was Thai Airlines (always a favorite of mine and usually too expensive to consider), but not this time, so I booked GRU to BKK with KLM / Thai. And I also booked separately all the other necessary flights my travel plans required, all at a very good prices thanks to the prevailing momentary view that Iran and the USA were close to a deal and the airlines were offering big bargains to stimulate demand as a result.

5. So, guess what: the Mullahs and the USA did not reach a deal, and it looks like Trump is going to wipe them off the face of the planet after the November elections. Anyway, this is the current worldwide opinion and whether it foretells the future or not, WTI crude oil prices are back up to $100/ barrel AND Airline tickets to BKK are super expensive again. Quelle surprise!

6. Thus, this is my best advice to all ISG punters who want to visit BKK or Pattaya, or CGK or MNL and do not have airline tickets: Relax and take it easy. Oil prices will go back to the $70 range once the world has a better idea of what is going to happen in the Gulf. Trump and the Mullahs may reach a deal and then oil prices will fall big time. Trump and the Mullahs may not reach a deal in which case Trump will hit the Iranian infrastructure and wipe out their electric grid. Oil may go higher after that in the short run, but eventually the regime will crumble and when it does oil prices will drop below $70/ barrel and airline tickets to BKK will be offered at bargain basement prices for a short time thereafter.

7. So, buckle your seatbelts, it may be a bumpy ride, but eventually everything will be ok. In the meantime, Americans who want to get their dick's wet should go to Tijuana or Costa Rica, or Cartagena for some fun and you Europeans should stay put and enjoy your FKK's. Me, I played the game pretty good even if I do say so myself, so I will be with the Missus in Sao Paulo in October and do my long-awaited BIG TRIP starting in early March 2027 in Sao Paulo and then landing in BKK right after Songkran.

I understand that we all enjoy shagging pretty girls, but at the same time I think we all should keep in mind that there ARE more important issues at hand. Getting rid of this terrorist regime in Iran will give the entire middle east a chance at a new way of living without killing and terrorizing each other. Think what it would be like to fly into Teheran one day and have great times in some nightclubs with the local girls. 555/ KKK.

[SubCmdr]

I was going to quit posting. As you have seen I have been taking a withering beat down from Senior Members. They are tapping out, tapping in, ganging up, calling for back up. But then, I got a message from a brother who told me that they had found some of the information I shared outside of the RANTS thread useful and that I should keep up the good work. That was all I needed to realize that there is no information to be found here in the RANTS threads. It my mind it does not serve the purpose of ISG. I will let the pedantic mother fuck quoted it completely and correctly for you.

My real work remains outside of the RANTS thread. Which curiously no one takes issue with the information I am providing about Bangkok and Thailand except for one totally fucked up in the head Senior Member.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

Delivered at the House of Commons on 4 June 1940 by Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill

[SubCmdr]

In plain language and without question.

Everyone can already see why you are so adamant to find out where my dick has been regarding P4 P, what I might have learned and can share here about P4 P in Mira Club or somewhere else, what all of us can tell you about where the "hos" engaging in the exchange of sex for money can be found and on and on.

Exactly what was your problem with my post about Mira the club that I actually provided information on my experience when I went into to the club, but you were looking at the club from the outside and watching YouTube videos about it?

Do you have any proof that I have ever did this?

I would also suggest anyone else on this ISG Forum to be very, very cautious about sharing positive info about those things here as well. Unless you don't mind anti non-criminal prostitution zealots like SubCmdr using that information to continue doing what he has time and time again proven himself to be driven to do; to alert the authorities publicly here and possibly privately as well that he sees it as "not legal", effectively lodging a complaint and joining every other such zealots out there to demand the Thai police investistigate, monitor and potentially shut it down even if they eventually never find a law that has been broken.

Maybe you didn't understand me when I posted information on: Sections 326-333.

Defamation in Thailand is primarily governed by Sections 326-333 of the Thai Criminal Code, which criminalize acts that impair another person's reputation. Section 326 defines basic defamation as imputing anything to a third person in a manner likely to expose the victim to hatred or scorn, punishable by imprisonment of up to one year or a fine of up to 20,000 Baht.

Aggravated defamation, known as Section 328 (Defamation by Publication), applies when the offense is committed via documents, films, broadcasts, or online platforms. This carries heavier penalties of imprisonment not exceeding two years and a fine not exceeding 200,000 Baht.

EihTooms can consider himself informed along with all other International Tricks unfamiliar with the laws in Thailand.

Is that in plain enough language for you!

Check Ball!

[SubCmdr]

I have a larger rotation, although not every lady is available all the time. I pay 2000 baht + taxi fare for what is usually 3 hours. Some ladies sleep over. I only go without condom with low volume ladies (mostly civvies).

I never figure you to be like our mega poster who always claims he fucks more, pays less and often fucks for free.

But I have to give a hat tip to you for having a bigger rotation than me. What next you going to ask for measurements? You going to tell me your girls always have 1 to 3 orgasms when they are with you (mine sometimes). You going to tell me you stopped eating pussy? You going to tell me the girls in my rotation have Thai Boyfriends and Husbands when I know for a fact that they do not?

It should be noted the girl in my rotation make time for me. Never been a time I requested to see one of them and they were not available. In fact, they want to see me more than I want to see them. I'd prefer put work in on my screens and get paid!

[SubCmdr]

29 busted, massive fine threatened after Pattaya sex party

Banglamung District officials and Pattaya police stormed the Ban Tulip Hotel April 21, finding 14 couples having group sex and exchanging partners during the swingers party they paid 1,500 baht each to attend. Rooms were scattered with condoms, lubricant, sexual enhancement drugs and sex toys.

https://www.pattayamail.com/news/29-...x-party-208911

[EihTooms]

Is group sex among consenting adults older than 18 legal if it involves the exchange of money between the participants?

If they are consenting adults and everyone has discreetly agreed to do it in private and not as part of some organized commercial business or venue, then there is no Thai law forbidding it, citing it as a crime subject to arrest and charges.

I have never seen such a law cited in any legally enforceable document. Have you? If so, please post a link and quote for it.

But to be more precise in my response, according to the two determinitive documents there is no legal reason for the participants to be "older than 18". The Thai Penal Code and the Prevention and Supression of Prostitution Act of 1996 are both absolutely obsessive about stating the pertinent legal age for these things to be "age 18 or older", "having attained age 18" and so on. There is nothing legally pertinent about any particular age older than 18. Nothing new or different happens in this regard for someone at age 19, 20, 21 or older than that.

[EihTooms]

You mean like when the hooker wanted me to go to the police station with her because she said I owed her money for sex, even though we never had sex? I guess we both should have been locked up on the spot But no, the policeman said if we could not work it out then we would have to go to court on the matter.

That is exactly how every police officer in Thailand would respond to such a situation.

There might be "selective enforcement" of the Thai business nominee laws that have been on the books for a very long time. But there cannot be "selective enforcement" of laws that have never been on the books and never will be on the books.

The hooker knew very well that her career choice is so not illegal and not a crime in Thailand that she naturally assumed there were some laws on the books protecting her right to the money she felt she was owed for the fucking and sucking. And in fact she is on the right track with that line of thinking. Several Citations and Sections in the Code and Act are elaborately written to make sure everyone understands that only the person doing the fucking and sucking for the money gets to keep and spend the money. No third party interlopers, pimps, procurers, moms, dads or boyfriends age 16 or older are to get a cut of that perfectly legally earned money or live off of it unless it can be shown they are under the prostitute's care and can't otherwise take care of themselves.

[EihTooms]

I have no idea how much of the quotes below from the report SubCmdr linked previously will survive the Admin / Mod editing process. The problem is virtually every sentence of the report could be quoted and highlighted to show how it supports my contention about it that he erroneously disputes. LOL.

Therefore, it is very much worth clicking on the link to read the report in its entirety.

The initial complaints were about the venue staying open too late hours and employing foreign workers in jobs FOR WHICH foreign nationals are forbidden to work; prostitution being one of them. The violation is not PROSTITUTION, mind you, but because that is a line of work that foreign nationals are forbidden to work in Thailand. So is being a nail salon technician, BTW.

There is NO mention of any of those workers or any customer in the venue being arrested for prostitution.

The only prostitution-related crimes for which anyone was arrested and charged was of the owner, for running it as a commercial business procuring prostitutes wherein it was confirmed he collected the money to be transferred directly into his account specifically for acts of prostitution that were taking place openly in his commercial venue. All of which are crimes specifically cited in the Thai Penal Code and / or the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 and discussed here and elsewhere many times as being the violations and NOT for the mere exchange of money for sex between the consenting adults in question.

Owner of prostitution den fronting as Karaoke bar arrested Friday and charged by Chacheongsao Police

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-ne...ongsao-police/

Late-night raid hits popular Chachoengsao karaoke bar after complaints of illegal hours and foreign workers. Undercover sting confirms prostitution offers. Eight foreign nationals arrested, and owner faces multiple charges after a coordinated police operation.
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The premises in central Chachoengsao were raided after intelligence suggested it was a den for prostitution and employed foreign women, particularly from Laos. The late-night raid confirmed this, and the owner was arrested and charged at Chachoengsao City Police Station. Employees and foreign nationals found on the premises were also arrested and taken to Chachoengsao District Office for processing, including later deportation.
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Authorities in Chachoengsao Province raided the notorious karaoke bar on March 27, 2026, following reports of operations beyond permitted hours and allegations of the venue employing foreign women to serve customers.
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Police multi unit team and move on Karaoke bar after complaints of late hours and foreign staff.
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Moreover, police intelligence suggested the bar employed Laotian and Cambodian nationals. Therefore, investigators began verification before launching the raid. Initially, undercover agents entered the venue posing as customers.

Inside, they observed staff movements and customer service activities. Certainly, police confirmed foreign workers were present during the visit. According to the undercover officers, the workers offered sexual services to customers. Furthermore, they also confirmed that prostitution was offered inside the venue.

Undercover officers confirm foreign workers and prostitution offered openly inside the venue.
Consequently, investigators prepared a sting operation based on the findings. Next, undercover agents arranged to pay for such services. Specifically, they transferred money to the bar owners account.
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During the raid, officers arrested one Cambodian national working as a housekeeper at the shop. In addition, they arrested seven Laotian nationals found inside the entertainment venue. Officials and police then checked the immigration and employment status of each detainee.

According to officers at the scene, three Laotian nationals had no work permits. Meanwhile, two had work permits but worked outside the permitted job category. In addition, two others had entered Thailand illegally.
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Meanwhile, investigators also detained the shop owner at the scene. Police then filed multiple charges against him based on the findings. Specifically, he was charged as the owner of premises used for procuring prostitution.

[SubCmdr]

Anyone who doesn't realize that the registered democrat, non-Thai citizen, non-member of the bar, pussy whipped mother fuck who lives in Bangkok, Thailand, who has made it his mission to make sure as many Thai Girls over the age of 18 enter prostitution comes into this thread to take out his frustrations of being collared by his girlfriend, tired of having her pull his leash at will, is not really looking at the total picture. I am just his current target.

He has been posting here since 2018 and making accusations that others are lying on their dick Based on what proof? The fact that he cannot do what others are doing when it comes to actually having sex with girls and therefore according to him it is not happening. Anyone who doesn't realize that this is just verbal (actually written for the pedantic among us) tennis for me. I build a point every time a make a post. After running him all over the court. I hit a winner down the line and end his pain.

Provoked? No one has to read or respond to my posts. In addition if you do as others have suggested and don't quote me, no one who does not want to read anything that I write ever has to see it.

Undisputed Fact

In the history of ISG there has never been a legal opinion presented that said: prostitution is legal in Thailand.

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

Did I get it right? I know if I didn't our pedantic mother fuck will correct me.

ROTFLMAO!

[Mogwai]

But why would I miss out on the fun of provoking him?

OK, please continue! LOL.

Has there ever been a better candidate for that purpose here?

No, I don't think so.

[SubCmdr]

I see a lot of posts talking about me. But those same people have not stated their position on the issue. Man up! Take a position and answer the question I have posed in the title of this post.