Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[SubCmdr]

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf

In the history of ISG no one has ever produced a legal opinion from a member of the the bar that says: Prostitution is legal in Thailand.

1. It is the evidence of prostitution the police are looking to suppress. Remember the Act's definition of prostitution being in a promiscuous manner?

EihTooms is hanging his entire agreement on: in a promiscuous manner while leaving out the following vital legal facts:

The Thai legal system does not provide a clear definition of the phrase in a promiscuous manner within the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996. The Act defines prostitution as sexual acts performed to gratify another person's desires in a "promiscuous manner" in return for money or benefit. Legal sources explicitly state that no clear definition of "promiscuous manner" is provided in the statute. Similarly, the phrase "open and shameless manner" used regarding solicitation is also not clearly defined. Consequently, the interpretation of these terms relies on judicial discretion and the specific circumstances of each case, such as whether the acts are causing a public nuisance or occurring in established prostitution establishments.

EihTooms is welcome to correct me on this.

2. The police outright qualify, literally and in the plainest language posdible, that they are looking for the illegal versions of prostitution.

But wait, wait, if there are illegal versions of prostitution how can prostitution be legal in Thailand?

Your May 2018 linked report about a sex party cited NO case of anyone there being arrested or fined for the non criminal version of prostitution even after the police sting came up with evidence of sex in exchange for money being offered to them.

So according to you there is both legal and illegal prostitution in Thailand. If that is the case how can the following assertion be wrong?

In the history of ISG no one has ever produced a legal opinion from a member of the the bar that says: Prostitution is legal in Thailand

All of those prostitution-related behaviors are specifically cited in plain language in the Code and / or the Act as crimes punishable by fine and / or imprisonment.

Once again proving there is illegal prostitution in Thailand. No where in the law is the term prostitution-related behaviors used. That term has been made up by EihTooms to bolster his argument that prostitution is legal in Thailand.

As far as your misunderstanding of what constitutes a "prostitution establishment"

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution;

No misunderstanding: allowed for prostitution, place used for making contact for prostitution Read the definition in the law for yourselves my fellow International Tricks. It needs no interpretation. The term can include go-go bars, massage parlors, karaoke venues, and brothels, Bars where sex work occurs, even if the business is ostensibly licensed under the Entertainment Places Act..

Law for weed shops is a different statute all together.

The Protection and Promotion of Thai Traditional Medicine Knowledge Act B.E. 2542 (1999) governs the flower, while the Narcotics Code B.E. 2522 (1979) regulates high-THC extracts.

Defamation is a completely different statue also

Thailand's defamation laws are primarily codified in Sections 326 to 333 of the Thai Criminal Code, which classify defamation as a criminal offense.

Period. Full Stop.

It should be noted

I think the law is written in such a way to give the controlling legal authorities quite a bit of discretion when it comes to street enforcement (selective). No one has ever presented in this forum with charging papers. So all knowledge about the legal process is second hand and is a interpretation of an interpretation in published news articles.

The Cmdr's Take

The 1996 Act makes prostitution illegal in Thailand, but what it actually criminalizes is a narrow set of activities. Private, consensual sex work between adults is not a criminal offense under the Act, and there is no general offense of buying or selling sex between consenting adults. The law's practical effect is to regulate the infrastructure of the sex industry rather than to prohibit the act itself and even that enforcement is selective.

[Banana Boi]

to management; please turn this thread off! It is not doing anyone any good including the ISG.

This thread was started for Monkeypaw to vent and for those to vent back at Monkeypaw.

As an Admin it makes their job easier not to have to monitor one single thread as closely unless something really vile or illegal was posted.

[EihTooms]

It is not enough to block specific posters, I have tried that route, but other posters will quote the crazies and then you are back to square one. I would love to block the entire thread and I would choose that option in a nano second. But in the meantime, management allows the madness to continue and I must admit that on occasion I have been drawn into it. So, after a while it becomes a guilty pleasure to dump on a couple of frig-holes who are out of their minds and originally made the mistake to insult me in the past for no cause. Now they have a cause.

The current war is pretty funny to watch in a low brow sort of way. One rather verbose and obnoxious BM is getting handed his lunch on a daily basis, yet he refuses to shut up and end his embarrassment and humiliation which he is apparently is unaware of. So, he continues to play the fool, and he continues to get roasted. Again, this is low brow dirty humor at best but it is kind of addictive and funny to watch especially when you know the combatants.

But yeah, to management; please turn this thread off! It is not doing anyone any good including the ISG.

Among other countries, did you know there is a Rants and stupid shit in Switzerland thread on this site? LOL. I haven't clicked on it because I'm afraid I'll get sucked into reading a debate over whether or not it is ok to eat the yellow snow.

Apparently these Rants threads are quite popular.

[SubCmdr]

It is not enough to block specific posters, I have tried that route, but other posters will quote the crazies and then you are back to square one. I would love to block the entire thread and I would choose that option in a nano second. But in the meantime, management allows the madness to continue and I must admit that on occasion I have been drawn into it. So, after a while it becomes a guilty pleasure to dump on a couple of frig-holes who are out of their minds and originally made the mistake to insult me in the past for no cause. Now they have a cause.

The current war is pretty funny to watch in a low brow sort of way. One rather verbose and obnoxious BM is getting handed his lunch on a daily basis, yet he refuses to shut up and end his embarrassment and humiliation which he is apparently is unaware of. So, he continues to play the fool, and he continues to get roasted. Again, this is low brow dirty humor at best but it is kind of addictive and funny to watch especially when you know the combatants.

But yeah, to management; please turn this thread off! It is not doing anyone any good including the ISG.

Axel Heyst wrote that I was a black racist. Yet never posted a single quote from my 7500 post body of work here on ISG that supports his contention.

How to deal with our obnoxious little black racist

I could not have said it better. But the question is how to deal with this race baiting, antagonistic, idiot. Yeah, it's kind of fun to insult him whenever he provokes it, but the insane truth is he craves the attention. Self-ridicule is his thing.

How long had it been since you visited Thailand when you wrote this post? Other than a direct attack on me what information did you provide to this forum?

BeachDrone, you are not alone. Don't let this raging psycho deter you from posting trip reports. Just put him on ignore.

And guys, if you must respond to him, please don't quote him! The ignore function does not work on quoted text.

Another post where if YOU are being honest you did not mention my handle but you were talking about me. Why are you trying to censor the content I provide to others? Personal grudge perhaps?

I never called you a black racist, Subbie. I called you a race baiter which is exactly what you are. They like to blame everybody else instead. In any case, having a rational conversation with you on any level is impossible. I know because I have tried, but you can't handle civil discourse. I would feel sorry for you, but you are such a little shit, that I just can't give you any sympathy. Enjoy your pitiful existence, troll.

Here you are calling me out, yet again for some kind of personal grudge. Yet you wound up reversing yourself in the very next post you made about me.

You got me ass wipe. I checked it out and yep, I wrote it, and then I forgot about it. And I was definitely referring to you. I mean who else is as obnoxious a little twit as you are on the ISG? LMFAO!

The fact that I forgot about the title of that post and you did not is an example of much importance I attach to you and your all your bragging, and over the top BS that you think is so clever, vs how much you seem to care about what I post. Hahaha. So, go back to your slimy little hovel, write up some more BS, and keep telling yourself you're living the life, banging fugly Thai girls for pennies on the bhat. We all know different.

Unless you can prove what you wrote as I have underlined in your posts above you might want to reconsider making further statements like that until you review and fully understand Sections 326-333 of the Thai Penal Code. I have included information in this post for your review.

And since you see to be interested in honesty, didn't you come to this RANTS thread in the first place after I called you out on your statement about: there is no racism in the Dis United States of America?.

Let me see if I can find that quote from the American Politics thread:

Sub, Sub, Sub,

As soon as some a-hole resorts to race baiting and intimidation in a futile attempt to win the argument, I know 2 things: 1) that person is a lowlife with limited intelligence and 2) that person does not have any real data to back up his argument.

I think the underlined statement might not be reviewed positively if this statement required legal review at some point.

Obviously, you are back on my ignore list. Have fun living in Pattaya on the cheap.

What was the core issue that drove your so crazy as to make such a hateful statement involving my race?

You wouldn't be able to enjoy your present lifestyle if you were not a black American.

What was the core issue that drove your so crazy as to make such a hateful statement involving my race? You never did explain what you meant by that statement that you made.

Since I am off your ignore list and you have announced that you are visiting Thailand, please let us all know what prompted your decision.

So, the SubCmdr took a quote from one of my posts entitled "The Effect of Geopolitical Events on Oil Prices on Airline Tickets" in the American Politics thread that had nothing to do with his prostitution rants in this particular thread and then he used my quote in the Rants thread to bolster whatever he is trying to bolster here.

I am allowed to take quotes from the entirety of ISG. If I was not then The Administrator would stop it. Didn't you already state at one point I should be banned? How did that request work out for you?

You are very dishonest and confused, Mr. Sub, and I honestly believe you are having a mental breakdown. Maybe it is time you to take a break from you hyper posting and personal attacks so you can compose yourself a little and get your head straight.

Perhaps you do not understand the defamation laws in Thailand either.

Maybe you didn't understand me when I posted information on: Sections 326-333.

Defamation in Thailand is primarily governed by Sections 326-333 of the Thai Criminal Code, which criminalize acts that impair another person's reputation. Section 326 defines basic defamation as imputing anything to a third person in a manner likely to expose the victim to hatred or scorn, punishable by imprisonment of up to one year or a fine of up to 20,000 Baht.

Aggravated defamation, known as Section 328 (Defamation by Publication), applies when the offense is committed via documents, films, broadcasts, or online platforms. This carries heavier penalties of imprisonment not exceeding two years and a fine not exceeding 200,000 Baht.

Axel Heyst can consider himself informed.

Check Ball!

[SubCmdr]

yeah, to management; please turn this thread off! It is not doing anyone any good including the ISG.

Why are you asking for THE ADMINISTRATOR to turn off the sixth (6th) most popular thread in Thailand on the ISG Forum?

[SubCmdr]

The civil suit would follow your conviction for the crime.

What crime have I been convicted of? You do realize that your implication that I have committed a crime is defamation in and of itself. I suggest you review the law or just consult your Thai Attorney.

And I prefer to file that one individually anyway because I'm sure my Thai attorney could get a much better settlement or adjudicated punitive award from you for pain and suffering than any one of us could as a group.

While we are on the subject of defamation, when you are talking with your Thai Attorney about assisting your filing of a criminal complaint against me, check with your Thai Attorney and see if you have exposed yourself to the same legal jeopardy as you claim that claim I am in.

Ever had soup with a cracker?

I know you have asked for a cracker with your soup, cheese or wine in your lifetime, you anti-white racist!

I recommend every other member of ISG to do the same.

Looks like someone is providing legal counsel without being a member of the bar in Thailand yet again.

On a personal note: I'll meet any Senior Member at the Bus Bar, in Tree Town, Pattaya, Thailand if they wish to serve me court papers. Not concerned about it because I keep a Thai Attorney on retainer. But you better have your health insurance paid up. Make sure you are not writing a check that your ass can't cash. Because I will have a golf wedge in my hand. I like to practice my short game and afterwards have a drink. That is why I will have it with me.

ROTFLMAO!

I'll be waiting. Or you can just send the complaint to my Thai Attorney and then it will be game on. This back and forth on ISG is the play world. Don't fuck around and find out how the real world works!

[Sam Sanuk]

It is not enough to block specific posters...The current war is pretty funny to watch in a low brow sort of way. One rather verbose and obnoxious BM is getting handed his lunch on a daily basis, yet he refuses to shut up and end his embarrassment and humiliation

Very true. But this subforum is a great place for "stupid shit" and a "stupid shit" to unload. It's like a sandbox for folks to unload. Helps keep other subforums / threads relatively civil. Just my take.

Sam.

[Axel Heyst]

This is the Rants thread so guys can come on this thread to say whatever they want. Many guys will just block posters they don't want to "listen" to any longer so that's always an option. I just choose to read this thread on rare occasions and when I read it it's really just skimming.

It is not enough to block specific posters, I have tried that route, but other posters will quote the crazies and then you are back to square one. I would love to block the entire thread and I would choose that option in a nano second. But in the meantime, management allows the madness to continue and I must admit that on occasion I have been drawn into it. So, after a while it becomes a guilty pleasure to dump on a couple of frig-holes who are out of their minds and originally made the mistake to insult me in the past for no cause. Now they have a cause.

The current war is pretty funny to watch in a low brow sort of way. One rather verbose and obnoxious BM is getting handed his lunch on a daily basis, yet he refuses to shut up and end his embarrassment and humiliation which he is apparently is unaware of. So, he continues to play the fool, and he continues to get roasted. Again, this is low brow dirty humor at best but it is kind of addictive and funny to watch especially when you know the combatants.

But yeah, to management; please turn this thread off! It is not doing anyone any good including the ISG.

[Banana Boi]

Sweet Jesus! This is like two ticks arguing over who owns the freaking dog, and this sounds like a two year old ready to take his ball home because he can't be captain of the team.

This is the Rants thread so guys can come on this thread to say whatever they want. Many guys will just block posters they don't want to "listen" to any longer so that's always an option. I just choose to read this thread on rare occasions and when I read it it's really just skimming.

I am trying to soothe my butt hurt by reading about all the excellent pussy, until I can get my ass there and act like a proper degenerate in person.

This is not the thread to do that on.

[EihTooms]

Are the individuals of this class-action complain going to represent themselves? Because a member of the bar of Thailand will not take their case.

There is currently no specific legal framework for class action defamation suits in Thailand.

That might be because defamation suits are criminal in nature. The class action regime is generally reserved for cases involving mass consumer losses, environmental harm, or systemic employment misconduct where individual litigation is impractical. Wake me up EihTooms when you have something to say about the defamation law in Thailand that is actually true.

The civil suit would follow your conviction for the crime. And I prefer to file that one individually anyway because I'm sure my Thai attorney could get a much better settlement or adjudicated punitive award from you for pain and suffering than any one of us could as a group.

I recommend every other member of ISG to do the same.

[EihTooms]

Below you will find a link to the Prevention And Suppression Of Prostitution Act B.E. 2539 (1996) (in case the quotes I provided directly from the website below were inadequate for you.

https://ilo-phuket.com/legal-documen...stitution.html

I don't have a answer for you.

From 2018 until 2023 the Thai Police found no prostitution on Walking Street. I have enclosed the following articles for you review:

Why do you simply refuse to read and comprehend the plain language in the links and quotes you provide that totally refute your own arguments? LOL.

From your 2018 report link:

Police proudly declared that, following checks on the famous red light district, they found absolutely no evidence of prostitution.

From your 2023 report link and your very own quote from it:

Pattaya Tourist Police were satisfied after finding no illegal prostitutes during yesterdays tour around risky spots.
The inspection, which aimed to stifle illegal prostitution and came after complaints from concerned citizens claiming prostitutes were operating in Pattaya

1. It is the evidence of prostitution the police are looking to suppress. Remember the Act's definition of prostitution being "in a promiscuous manner"?

2. The police outright qualify, literally and in the plainest language posdible, that they are looking for the illegal versions of prostitution. Please refer to 1 above, along with age-related versions of it, venues with sex acts for sale signs outside, ladies shouting their sexual services and prices to passersby, etc. They do not say they are looking for the versions of prostitution that do not conform to the plain language definition of it in the Act and for which there is no Section citing it as a crime punishable by anything whatsoever, such as the mere exchange of money for sex or sex for money between consenting adults that is NOT done "in a promiscuous manner" or "openly and shamelessly in a public place causing a nuisance to the public. ".

Your May 2018 linked report about a sex party cited NO case of anyone there being arrested or fined for the non criminal version of prostitution even after the police sting came up with evidence of sex in exchange for money being offered to them. It only cited late night house violations, running a hotel without a license violations, foreign worker violations, forcing staff to engage in sex acts violations, performing the sex in front of the hotel staff violations, the owner running the venue as a prostitute establishment as proven by his online ads for exactly that violations, the owner taking a cut of the prostitutes' money because it was deposited directly into his personal bank account violations and so on.

All of those prostitution-related behaviors are specifically cited in plain language in the Code and / or the Act as crimes punishable by fine and / or imprisonment.

There was no indication in that report that any consenting adult was arrested or charged for the mere exchange of sex for money or money for sex at that party. Because there is no Citation or Section in the Code or Act that defines that as a crime according to their plain language definition of it that has been repeated to you here and elsewhere numerous times.

And no rogue cop at the scene or any scene can spin off on his own to "selectively enforce" a law that doesn't exist in the Thai Penal Code or the Act, has never existed and will never exist.

As far as your misunderstanding of what constitutes a "prostitution establishment" according to the plain language definition of it in the Code and / or the Act goes, perhaps the simplest way to possibly help you to finally grasp the concept is to compare the way a weed shop sells and allows the sale of weed to happen inside the shop vs whatever individual decision might be made by somebody in a gogo bar, beer bar, night club etc to consent to the exchange of sex for money and convene to private quarters to fulfill that agreement.

1. If you have the proper medical document, anybody and everybody with the money will be able to buy weed in a weed shop as is clearly advertised outside the shop.

2. There is generally no such promise made by any sign or public declaration "in a promiscuous manner" about exchanging money for sex at a gogo bar, beer bar, nightclub or massage shop. It would be a crime if they did that. There is also no assurance that anybody and everybody will be offered or allowed to agree to exchange money for sex in such a venue. Some of those venues and staff go further to make it clear that their staff is there only for you to buy drinks for them and to keep you company while you drink yours. And in all of them it is up to the individuals whether the notion of offering or agreeing to the exchange of money for sex will be done or acted upon, virtually always only discussed, agreed upon and allowed privately between the consenting adults, not involving the owners or management at all and fulfilled away from the public in private quarters.

That is even moreso in venues where the only exchange of money is done or known to be done or allowed to be done by the proprietors is the money given to them to allow a member of their staff to leave their job in the bar for a while. Whatever happens between you and the staff member then is up to you, the staff member and no one else.

See how different that is from what you insist fits the definition of a "prostitution establishment" as defined in the Code or Act?

[Explorer8939]

First, you guys are adults, and you, more or less, "own this place", and as such are free to continue as you see fit. As far as any of this, I am just a gnat on an elephant's ass. My main comment is that what could be an otherwise excellent discussion is, IMO, sidelined my some rather childish remarks.

And for the record, even at my slightly ripe, moderately old, age, I have never been accused of being particularly mature. If that were the case, I would have avoided this thread completely.

Unfortunately, my upcoming fall trip now looks like a spring trip, so I am trying to soothe my butt hurt by reading about all the excellent pussy, until I can get my ass there and act like a proper degenerate in person.

This moment in time is optimal for going with ladies. Although the number of customers is up a little bit, the ladies are deep in poverty mentality, thinking that there won't be a High Season ever again (once High Season comes, they will forget about Low Season).

So the ladies are trying their best to get and hold customers.

[BMoreDog69]

First, you guys are adults, and you, more or less, "own this place", and as such are free to continue as you see fit. As far as any of this, I am just a gnat on an elephant's ass. My main comment is that what could be an otherwise excellent discussion is, IMO, sidelined my some rather childish remarks.

And for the record, even at my slightly ripe, moderately old, age, I have never been accused of being particularly mature. If that were the case, I would have avoided this thread completely.

Unfortunately, my upcoming fall trip now looks like a spring trip, so I am trying to soothe my butt hurt by reading about all the excellent pussy, until I can get my ass there and act like a proper degenerate in person.

Stay safe, have fun and "flame on!

BD69.

[SubCmdr]

Below you will find a link to the Prevention And Suppression Of Prostitution Act B.E. 2539 (1996) (in case the quotes I provided directly from the website below were inadequate for you.

https://ilo-phuket.com/legal-documen...stitution.html

When was the last time some dude got arrested for bar fining a gal from a club?

I don't have a answer for you.

I do not have access to all the history or court records in Thailand. I cannot prove the absolute non-existence of this with infinite certainty. Unless you can tell me that you have reviewed those records.

From 2018 until 2023 the Thai Police found no prostitution on Walking Street. I have enclosed the following articles for you review:

2018

Netizens of Thailand are breathing a collective sigh of relief after it was revealed that there is no prostitution in Pattayas infamous Walking Street.

https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/phew-police-report-there-is-no-prostitution-or-drugs-in-walking-street

2023

No Suspected Sex Workers Found During Pattaya Tourist Polices Inspection, According to Police

Pattaya Tourist Police were satisfied after finding no illegal prostitutes during yesterdays tour around risky spots.
The inspection, which aimed to stifle illegal prostitution and came after complaints from concerned citizens claiming prostitutes were operating in Pattaya

https://thepattayanews.com/2023/01/1...ing-to-police/

Impossible to arrest someone for prostitution when there are not prostitutes to be found. ROTFLMAO! The answer to your question is what exactly what I told you before. There is no violation for doing a bar fine. But, the devil is in the details.

Section 4.
In this Act,
prostitution means sexual intercourse, or any other act, or the commission of any other act in order to gratify the sexual desire of another person in a promiscuous manner in return for earning or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts the act and the person who commits the act are of the same sex or not;
prostitution establishment means a place established for prostitution or in which the prostitution is allowed, and shall include a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution;

How does prostitution actually occur in Thailand?

If you go into a bar. Have a drink with a girl. Make small talk. Then bar fine her. Your hypothetical situation applies. But who does that? Have you ever done that ?

BMoreDog69? You bar fine girls and never have a discussion about prostitution with them? You never answered my question and neither has another senior member either.

What does it mean to solicit for prostitution?

Solicitation of prostitution: is requesting, agreeing to pay, or negotiating for sexual services in exchange for money or something of value, even if no actual sexual act occurs.

So I ask again, do you simply walk into a bar in Thailand and bar fine a girl without soliciting her for prostitution?

Prostitution is different from solicitation It is right there in the law. Posted by another senior member and myself.

Enforcement is selective Are you going to tell me with a straight face that there is no prostitution on Walking Street. If prostitution is legal in Thailand why are the Thai Royal Police looking for it in the first place?

prostitution establishment means a place established for prostitution or in which the prostitution is allowed, and shall include a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution;

Even in a bar or club, an incident of solicitation for prostitution according to the very narrow definition of prostitution in that Act is virtually impossible to prove. If a police sting caught a lady literally telling the cop she will blow him for 2,000 baht if he pays the barfine and takes her out of the bar, the fact that he had to catch her saying it into a hidden recording device argues against the concept of the kind of "promiscuous manner" that is obviously the focus of Thai law on the subject.

The statement above is incorrect. Here is an example:

Inside, they observed staff movements and customer service activities. Certainly, police confirmed foreign workers were present during the visit. According to the undercover officers, the workers offered sexual services to customers. Furthermore, they also confirmed that prostitution was offered inside the venue.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2026/03/30/owner-of-prostitution-den-fronting-as-karaoke-bar-arrested-on-friday-and-charged-by-chacheongsao-police/

It is very important to actually read the source documents I present and not give your personal agency by allowing a senior member who is pushing a certain agenda (for his own reasons) to tell you what those documents say.

Here is what he has to say about prostitution establishments.

Now, on a related matter, over the years of living in Thailand I have known owners and operators of a Massage / Spa / Blow Job Bar and a Happy Ending Massage Shop quite well. The Farang and Thai owners of them. Right in ground zero for P4 P in Bangkok, minutes walks from BTS Nana and Sukhumvit / Asoke. I have asked them about these "bribes" they supposedly must surely pay the police or the government in order to stay open and run their businesses where, coincidently, despite their businesses offering therapeutic massage to the public, it turns out some of their staff make discreet and private agreements to exchange various forms of sex for money.

Both of them said they have never paid anyone a bribe to stay open and run their little therapeutic massage shops. And they have never been approached by anyone in authority asking for or demanding such a "bribe". But those are only two examples.

Wonder did he know that he was giving the perfect example of a prostitution establishment in this example?

Of course, it would be difficult to argue against a venue being a "prostitution establishment" if there were posted signs advertising the exchange of sex for money outside the way weed shops can now post signs advertising weed for money, if the ladies were shouting at customers passing their entrance about the specific sex acts they will perform for money and so on. Have you ever come across instances of that anywhere in Thailand? I haven't in 14 years of living here. Supposedly a couple of Blowjob Bars got shutdown because the ladies outside were describing their services loud enough to annoy a snitch. But I never heard any of those ladies doing that so loudly.

This poster has quite the vivid imagination.

The laws that specifically describe behaviors relating to prostitution that make it illegal have been on the books for a long time. But they are selectively enforced as all laws are in all nations because law enforcement resources are limited.

Check Ball!

[EihTooms]

When was the last time some dude got arrested for bar fining a gal from a club?

The answer to your question is never, because doing so has not broken any law that anyone has ever found, quoted or produced. Same with barfining a girl from a gogo bar, a beer bar or took a lady off the street or from a hotel lobby to your room.

Now, here's the critical point; barfining a lady out of her place of work is not an act of prostitution anyway so whatever anyone wants to think about the legality of prostitution or considers a venue to be a "prostitution establishment" has zero bearing on barfining a lady out of a club or meeting a lady in the lobby of a hotel.

Which is also why the Thai police have never busted anyone for merely doing that or closed down a gogo bar for being a "prostitution establishment" based on that going on at the place.

Then, by its very narrow definition in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996; meaning doing it "in a promiscuous manner", it is almost impossible for more than the potential customer and the potential prostitute to know exactly when, why and on what specific terms involving sex or not the notion occurred to one consenting adult to offer or ask for sex in exchange for money from another consenting adult in that venue much less them doing it in such a "promiscuous manner" that the general public would be in on the converstaion.

Even in a bar or club, an incident of solicitation for prostitution according to the very narrow definition of prostitution in that Act is virtually impossible to prove. If a police sting caught a lady literally telling the cop she will blow him for 2,000 baht if he pays the barfine and takes her out of the bar, the fact that he had to catch her saying it into a hidden recording device argues against the concept of the kind of "promiscuous manner" that is obviously the focus of Thai law on the subject.

Of course, it would be difficult to argue against a venue being a "prostitution establishment" if there were posted signs advertising the exchange of sex for money outside the way weed shops can now post signs advertising weed for money, if the ladies were shouting at customers passing their entrance about the specific sex acts they will perform for money and so on. Have you ever come across instances of that anywhere in Thailand? I haven't in 14 years of living here. Supposedly a couple of Blowjob Bars got shutdown because the ladies outside were describing their services loud enough to annoy a snitch. But I never heard any of those ladies doing that so loudly.

And even if it was happening that way a complaint would be filed by some aggrieved third party in the neighborhood that the police would then have to respond to and they would also need to stand by a while to see if they can hear those shouts too before they bust someone for precisely that. Still, as we have read in countless news reports of such busts, the bust would be for the shouting part and not for the sucking or fucking for money part.

See the screenshot below for the Act's very narrow definition for what they mean every time the word "prostitution" appears in that document's various Sections.