Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Explorer8939]

Anyone here getting laid?

Or are you too worried about the police?

[Nyezhov]

Readers who are interested simply need to click on the view original post link for the post below.

Posted as requested for the senior member so senior he forgets what he posts on ISG!

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So in other words, you have nothing dick worshiper. LOL.

Thanks for studying my posts, you might learn something LOL.

[Sam Sanuk]

Dude, when you leave a Soi 6 bar or any Thai massage shop with a favorite P4 P lady, the two of you really don't need to run to your room in an S pattern, zig-zaging down the Soi shouting "Serpentine! Serpentine!" in order to avoid shots fired by Thai police hot on the trail of any hookers and their customers who have not violated any Thai law to be found in any legally enforceable document.

After all of these years, I learn that my evasive maneuvers and tactics have been nothing more than "stupid shit"; I guess it shows that you're never to old to learn something new. 555+++.

Sam.

[EihTooms]

So a certain member of a certain forum who is not a Thai Citizen nor a member of the bar in Thailand has chosen to rewrite the laws of Thailand (translated into English) according to him in order to proffer his own interpretation for others, instead of allowing them to read in interpret the law for themselves. So, in order to correct the consistent mis-information provided by this particular member I am suggesting that those interested read the law as it is written.

International Tricks from around the world can read the law for themselves. No interpretation is needed from a certain member of this forum who his neither a Thai Citizen or member of the bar in Thailand.

Period. Full Stop!

In the case of the authors of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Act of 1996 and their literal and plain language legal definition of the term "Prostitution" for Thailand's legal purposes as well as their literal and plain language legal definition of the term "solicitation for prostitution in a promiscuous manner, in an obvious manner, on a street, in a public place, committed overtly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public" for Thailand's legal purposes, as they took great pains to define in plain language in their very early reference to both in the text of their Act and fully expected if not demanded those literal and plain language definitions of those legal terms to be carried forward to each and every subsequent reference to those legally defined terms in their Act, they at no point announced in the text of the Act that from this moment forward the reader can now stop applying the authors' literal and plain language legal definition of them and start applying the reader's own utterly irrelevant Podunk country's definition of those terms to them.

Nobody needs to be a Thai citizen or Thai bar attorney to read and comprehend the authors' literal and plain language legal definition of the terms they expect the reader to carry forward to each and every subsequent reference to those terms in their Act. That's why they included those literal and plain language definitions of them early in the Act.

Please see my previous Reader's Aid for Sections 4, 5, 6 and 7 of the Act post for further clarification and assistance in grasping the concept.

Thailand and Thai Law doesn't give a shit about your Podunk country's legal definition of Prositution and Solicitation for Prostitution, did not establish their laws regarding Prostitution and Solicitation for Prostitution according to your Podunk country's legal definition of them and instead did so according to their own legal definition of them, which is found literally and in plain language right there in the text of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Act

[SubCmdr]

So a certain member of a certain forum who is not a Thai Citizen nor a member of the bar in Thailand has chosen to rewrite the laws of Thailand (translated into English) according to him in order to proffer his own interpretation for others, instead of allowing them to read in interpret the law for themselves. So, in order to correct the consistent mis-information provided by this particular member I am suggesting that those interested read the law as it is written.

What does the law actually say?

Section 4 In this Act:
Prostitution means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any
other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a
promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person
who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or
allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring
another person for prostitution;

Section 5
Whoever, for the purpose of prostitution, offers, solicits, introduces
oneself to, follows, or importunes another person on a street, in a public place, or any other
place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public,
shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

Section 6
Whoever congregates with another person in a prostitution
establishment for the benefit of prostitution of that person or of another person shall be
punished with imprisonment not exceeding one month, or a fine not exceeding one thousand
baht, or both.

If the offence under the first paragraph is committed because of being forced or under
an influence unable to avoid or resist, the offender is not guilty.

Section 7
Whoever advertises or agrees to advertise, induces, or introduces with
documents or printed material, or acts by any other means to distribute information to the
public in an obvious manner of solicitation or communication for prostitution of that person
or of any other person, shall be punished with imprisonment of six months to two years, or a
fine of ten thousand to forty thousand baht, or both.

https://mekongmigration.org/labourlaw/images/labourlaw/pdf/thailand/49%20Prostitution%20Prevention%20and%20Suppression%20Act%201996.pdf

International Tricks from around the world can read the law for themselves. No interpretation is needed from a certain member of this forum who his neither a Thai Citizen or member of the bar in Thailand.

Period. Full Stop!

[SubCmdr]

Post the long history of ladyboy rants then boy LOL.

Readers who are interested simply need to click on the view original post link for the post below.

ISG Brothers, I invite you to goto the ISG Search Function. Advanced Search; Thailand Threads; Keyword: Ladyboy; User Name: Nyezhov.

The search will take 0.66 sections and will pull up 35 posts where Nyezhov has mentioned (or responded to a post that mentioned) Ladyboys from 2019 until present.

I am not a Ladyboy. I have a Big Black Dick. He clearly does not like people of color (very easy to pick that up in his posts). So, I do not understand his nearly 1 year obsession with me that seems to be continuing and intensifying.

The Defense Rests!

Posted as requested for the senior member so senior he forgets what he posts on ISG!

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[EihTooms]

There seems to be some confusion and therefore much disinformation repeated about Thai Law regarding prostitution, prostitution establishments and solicitation for prostitution in Thailand.

Perhaps this will help to clear it up for those who apparently cannot read and comprehend the plain language legal definition of the terms as they apply to Thai Law and then carry those legal definitions forward to every subsequent reference to those terms.

First, let's review the actual, literal, plain language legal definition of "prostitution" that the authors of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996 want its readers, the police, the Justice Department and everyone else in the World to think of each and every time that word appears in each and every subsequent Section of the Act. They do not want you to think of your Podunk country's accepted legal definition of it or Mirriam-Webster's definition of it for Thailand's legal purposes. They only want you to think of their plain language legal definition of it.

And here it is:

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act of 1996

https://mekongmigration.org/labourla...Act%201996.pdf

Section 4
In this Act:

"Prostitution" means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;

Ok. Now that we've got that firmly embedded in our brain, here is the way the authors of that Act would have written every subsequent reference to the word "prostitition" in their Act if they had thought in a million years that certain members of a Forum whose members are supposedly interested in having sex with women were going to totally disregard and disrespect the authors' plain language legal defintion of it for legal purposes and work so very hard to make everyone reading their posts to mistakenly think that the word "prostitution" in their Act had anything to do with those members' Pudunk country's concept of it and that those certain members would then mistakenly think that the mere act of consenting adults offering to and then exchanging sex for money and money for sex was illegal in Thailand and then continually spread that disinformation to others.

As though the authors of that Act were too dumb to figure out how to write "is illegal no matter what manner it is committed. ".

BTW, this also includes a bonus special education readers aid for the concept of "solicitation for prostitution" with regard to Thai law as it is also literally and in plain language defined in the Act.

Ok, here we go:

"Prostitution in a promiscuous manner Establishment" means the place or premises arranged for prostitution in a promiscuous manner or allowed for prostitution in a promiscuous manner, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring another person for prostitution in a promiscuous manner.

Section 5

Whoever, for the purposes of prostitution in a promiscuous manner, offers, solicits, introduces oneself to, follows or importunes another person on a street, in a public place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

Section 6

Whoever congregates with another person in a prostitution in a promiscuous manner establishment for the benefit of prostitution in a promiscuous manner of that person or of another person shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding one month, or a fine not exceeding one thousand baht, or both.

If the offence under the first paragraph is committed because of being forced or under an influence unable to avoid or resist, the offender is not guilty.

Section 7

Whoever advertises or agrees to advertise, induces or introduces with documents or printed material, or acts by any other means to distribute information to the public in an obvious manner of solicitation on a street, in a public place, committed overtly and shamelessly or causes a nuisance to the public or communication for prostitution in a promiscuous manner of that person or of any other person shall be punished with imprisonment of six months to two years, or a fine of ten thousand to forty thousand baht, or both.

There. Fixed it for the reading and comprehension-impaired out there who simply cannot carry forward a literal and plain language legal definition of terms for legal purposes into subsequent references to those terms so the authors don't have to repeat those legal definitions over and over again for those readers who simply can't master that particular reading and comprehension skill.

I hope that helps.

Oh, why not:

Prostitution according to some totally irrelevant Podunk country's legal definition of it might not be legal in Thailand if Thai Law gave a shit about that definition of it, which it doesn't, so it's not.

There. Fixed that often repeated bit of misinformation too.

[SubCmdr]

I don't think highly of the poster. But the post below has solid information in it and serves the purpose of ISG.

Well, actually you are the one who makes things complicated if you contact them when you don't have BOTG. These girls are looking for a customer today, or maybe tomorrow. But not next week, next month, next year, or whenever you expect to be there.
There is no need to open TF before you have landed in Bangkok. Open it when you have BOTG and then contact the girls who are online right now, or have been online within the last 10 minutes or so. Or just wait for 'likes'.

[Nyezhov]

When has Nyezhov even last been in Thailand. I don't see any trip reports just him talking a lot of his male bovine excrement.

Nyezhov continues to go one-on-one with me. It is going well for him.

You have completely forgot that you have a long history of RANTS about ladyboys.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...377&viewfull=1#post2982377.

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Post the long history of ladyboy rants then boy LOL.

[SubCmdr]

Prostitution means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;

Section 7
Whoever advertises or agrees to advertise, induces, or introduces with documents or printed material, or acts by any other means to distribute information to the public in an obvious manner of solicitation or communication for prostitution of that person or of any other person, shall be punished with imprisonment of six months to two years, or a fine of ten thousand to forty thousand baht, or both.

I must always quote the law. Because individuals want to interpret the law for others instead of allowing the grown men reading this site to read it for themselves.

At most, the owners of ThaiFriendly are at risk of getting busted for a crime based on Section 7 of that Thai document, not you or the lady based on any conversation you have on that site.

Incorrect!

Here are the elements of the law

1. Whoever advertises or agrees to advertise.

2. in an obvious manner of solicitation or communication for prostitution.

Each user is using the platform of Thai Friendly to communicate on the site. So the plain language of the law does not provide any exceptions. So, the moment a girl writes in communication to you that she is a Freelancer; the moment the International Trick asks for short time or other sexual services then a violation of Section 7 occurs.

However, if your publicly observable profile states something like "Lonely American Looking to Pay Women For Sex" and her publicly observable profile states something like "Older Lady Who Looks Nothing Like Her Photos Seeks Sex With Anyone In Exchange For Money" and the owner of TF allows those profiles to exist on their site, all three of you could get busted for it at any moment because that would be illegal.

This is correct.

Otherwise, if the owners and management of TF forbid its subscribers from even discussing sex for money in person-to-person conversations about it on their site and bans anyone who does it, that's a personal business decision made by the proprietors of TF and nothing to do with Section 7 of that Act

Incorrect!

Reference is made to the elements of the law section of this post.

or what is specifically defined as illegal Prostitution in the Thai Code or Act, the only version of Prostitution between consenting adults deemed to be illegal under Thai law.

The definition of Prostitution has been included for each individual International Trick. No interpretation by a Non-Thai, Non-member of the Thai Bar is needed.

Check Ball!

[EihTooms]

Whatever the Thai word for it is or if it accurately translates into English, I'm going with Thai Law's version of "in a promiscuous manner" to be closer to random and indiscriminate as McDonalds advertises and sells hamburgers randomly and indiscrimantly to anyone and everyone who has money to buy a hamburger and nothing to do with how many partners a hooker or a customer has had in their lifetimes.

Even without being in the room at the time I am 100% certain no Thai police officer has interrogated a prostitute they rounded up for "openly and shamelessly" soliciting for prostitution "in a public place causing a nuisance to the public" after an annoyed hotel or restaurant proprietor filed a complaint about how the crowds of prostitutes and their potential customers were making their lovely newly renovated facade look by asking Noi how many customers she had that week and then charging her with an additional and non existent Prostitution-related crime because her response was 2 more than the "in a promiscuous manner" Thai law limit.

promiscuous meaning in english
promiscuous
/prəˈmiskyəwəs/
Promiscuous means having many different sexual partners or relationships, usually without emotional commitment.
You can learn more detailed usage in the Cambridge Dictionary or the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
General and Broad Meanings
The word also has non-sexual meanings that describe things mixed together randomly or done without careful choice:
Indiscriminate: Selecting or using things carelessly without a plan (e.g., a "promiscuous" reader who reads any book they find).
Mixed elements: A random or disorderly mixture of various people or things.
Technical (Networking): A promiscuous mode allows a network device to intercept and read all network traffic.
Synonyms
Casual
Indiscriminate
Random
Licentious

And I am also 100% certain that no Thai translation of it applies to a consenting adult person-to-person conversation discussing and negotiating the exchange of money for sex and sex for money anywhere in Thailand, the parties involved walking in a normal pattern to and from whatever private quarters they intend to engage in it or all during their engagement in it even if it is the 4th such engagement for the prostitute that day and the 3rd one for her customer.

[EihTooms]

You been to Soi 6 lately?

Real Talk for Real Life

There is not one bar on Soi 6 with a sign outside advertising Sex For Money the way weed shops can now post signs advertising weed for money. There is not one bar with staff outside shouting the sale of Blowjobs and Fucking in exchange for money in front of a group of pedestrians and never if there is a police officer close enough to hear or see it. Not even on Soi 6.

Dude, when you leave a Soi 6 bar or any Thai massage shop with a favorite P4 P lady, the two of you really don't need to run to your room in an S pattern, zig-zaging down the Soi shouting "Serpentine! Serpentine!" in order to avoid shots fired by Thai police hot on the trail of any hookers and their customers who have not violated any Thai law to be found in any legally enforceable document.

Thai police are not after you for what you and your lady just did and are on your way to continue doing. Really. You can relax. You and she would have to wear sandwich board signs with your intentions spelled out in Thai with neon lights along Soi 6 and Beach Road as well as Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok before the police even notice you and before you come within a mile of what Thai law states clearly in plain language what they specifically deem to be illegal in Thailand.

I hate to burst the romanticized and Hollywood dramatic image of yourself being so street smart and clever to outfox the Thai police at every turn, to brilliantly dodge being arrested and charged with a crime because of your world-wise method of avoiding certain words in a person-to-person conversation on ThaiFriendly, looking both ways for any sign of the fuzz on the mean streets of Pattaya and Bangkok before you enter or exit a bar or massage shop, the Serpentine running to and from your room with a lady and all that.

But the fact is you are getting away with it because there is no law against what you or your consenting adult ladies are doing of a sexual nature in Thailand, money involved or no money involved. The Thai police are not even paying attention to you. There is no legal reason for them to pay attention to you.

Elmer Fudd from Podunk, USA can and will avoid being noticed and targetted for arrest for any sexual or prostitution crime whatsoever by the Thai police just as effectively as you and your P4 P ladies have done as long as he also confines his activities to consenting adults and also does not wear one of those neon lit sandwich board signs with his intentions spelled out on it even if he just stepped off the plane an hour earlier and has no idea a Thai Penal Code or Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act exists.

[SubCmdr]

I know it isn't a GoGo, but I found a gal at Frog Bar on Walking Street back in February who told me the BF was 2000 (it was about 9), but after 11:00 the BF would go down to 1000.

For between 500 - 2000 THB I can fuck in Pattaya (Short Time). No bar fines, no lady drinks. Long Time for me is 3000 THB.

[SubCmdr]

When has Nyezhov even last been in Thailand. I don't see any trip reports just him talking a lot of his male bovine excrement.

I'm old enough to remember when both areas were worth a trip, one weekend Nana, one weekend Patpong, one weekend Cowboy but those days are long gone. Occasional visitors shouldn't waste their time.

I really haven't bothered with either since I was living in Thonburi, and could stop in Patpong first. But when I am schlepping in from Tao Poon or Siem Reap, why bother?

I like my venues to be the best, with the best women. Nana. Because you may find a gem doesn't mean that its worth everyone's time. But, if I hole up in Silom or Thonburi again, I'm sure that for sheer variety I will cruise around.

Nyezhov continues to go one-on-one with me. It is going well for him.

Quote every one you can find boy LOL. You are the one chasing me around LOL.

You have completely forgot that you have a long history of RANTS about ladyboys.

I see your ladyboy obsession continues:

Nyezhov delivers a personal message to The Cmdr.

Anytime you want to step to me. Send me a PM and I will met you anywhere in the world we agree upon. A face to face discussion among men is in order.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...377&viewfull=1#post2982377.

Check Ball!

[SubCmdr]

Nuisance? Hardly. Visitors to Soi 6 (or Soi Cowboy) know what to expect and that is why they go there. They are not being annoyed. If so, they would turn around after venturing down / up the soi a mere 10 meters. Then, you have "community standards". I'd suggest that the same activities and conduct allowed on Soi 6 would be frowned upon at the Grand Palace or what Pho in BKK. Just my 2 satang.

Sam.

Have you read what the law says:

Section 4
Prostitution means the acceptance of sexual intercourse, the acceptance of any
other act, or the commission of any other act for sexual gratification of another person in a
promiscuous manner for remuneration or any other benefit, irrespective of whether the person
who accepts such act and the person who commits such act are of the same or opposite sex;

Prostitution Establishment means the place or premises arranged for prostitution or
allowed for prostitution, and shall include the place used for making contact or procuring
another person for prostitution;

Section 5
Whoever, for the purpose of prostitution, offers, solicits, introduces
oneself to, follows, or importunes another person on a street, in a public place, or any other
place and such act is overtly and shamelessly committed or causes nuisance to the public,
shall be punished with a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.

Section 6
Whoever congregates with another person in a prostitution
establishment for the benefit of prostitution of that person or of another person shall be
punished with imprisonment not exceeding one month, or a fine not exceeding one thousand
baht, or both.

It is impossible for anyone to reads the law (who understands English and Legal Language) and has been down Soi 6 to tell me that according to the legal definition of Prostitution, Prostitution Establishment it does not exist on Soi 6 along with Violations of Section 5 and Section 6 occurring from the moment the venues on Soi 6 open until they close.

Check Ball!