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[RarityMan]

Different types of Chinese women approach for different things. In Gotanda and in Osaka it was for low cost (Y10 K) sex in bad conditions. If they're specifically offering massage in Kabukicho, it's probably for that +handjob, but who knows. I followed a couple of the latter type in Kabukicho back in my early trips to Tokyo in 2014/2015. I think each time it was in the wee hours of the morning on the way out of Kabukicko after having some other fun and figuring why not have a relaxing massage and some fun. Nothing bad or scary happened any of those times, but nothing that made me want to do it again after I got more Japan experience and knowledge. Just kind of an ordinary meh experience and a waste of time and energy.

I did have another type of experience with a middle-aged Chinese woman soliciting for massage in Kabukicho back in 2019. I will copy / paste from my 2019 report:

"I headed back to my hotel north of Kabukicho and then strolled through to try Cocomero again. During the walk I passed by a corner with several Chinese ladies soliciting for massage. I saw one MILF that I thought was pretty fetching, we chatted for a minute and I told her I was on the way somewhere but I would look for her later. I was shut out of Cocomero again (Japanese only, they suggested to come back in the morning) and was walking back to my hotel intending to use another delivery health service, but the same Chinese MILF was still on that corner.

I walked up to her and she was excited to bring me up to her shop for the massage, but I told her I didn't really want a massage or to go to her incall, which would probably be cramped, shabby, etc. Instead, I told her I wanted her to come with me to a love hotel for FS. She acted like that was the most insane suggestion she had ever heard but she didn't walk away either. It took some convincing, but she eventually agreed to everything I wanted. It wasn't cheap (I think it ended up being Y30 K all in plus the love hotel fee) but we spent 90 minutes in the room for full GFE / PSE and she was very, very passionate. This kind of negotiation and activity is not for the faint of heart or Tokyo rookies, but I had a blast. ".

You post somehow reminded me of the Thai girl brothel by the east exit of the Kamata station that went away because of Covid. I started going there in 2012 and 8000 yen for a 30-minute session with FS was so nice back when I was pretty young and broke in Japan. They occasionally have some Chinese girls but they would be 50% more expensive and not always as young as the Thai girls. Good times.

[Runon99]

So I was walking around Kabukicho late night because I love the liveliness and vibe there.
A few times, I was discreetly approached by middle-aged Chinese women speaking Chinese and English to me saying she knows a place where I can get a good massage *wink wink* and more from young pretty girls.
Anyone did TOFTT and took the trouble to find out what the cautionary tale would be for us?

Different types of Chinese women approach for different things. In Gotanda and in Osaka it was for low cost (Y10 K) sex in bad conditions. If they're specifically offering massage in Kabukicho, it's probably for that +handjob, but who knows. I followed a couple of the latter type in Kabukicho back in my early trips to Tokyo in 2014/2015. I think each time it was in the wee hours of the morning on the way out of Kabukicko after having some other fun and figuring why not have a relaxing massage and some fun. Nothing bad or scary happened any of those times, but nothing that made me want to do it again after I got more Japan experience and knowledge. Just kind of an ordinary meh experience and a waste of time and energy.

I did have another type of experience with a middle-aged Chinese woman soliciting for massage in Kabukicho back in 2019. I will copy / paste from my 2019 report:

"I headed back to my hotel north of Kabukicho and then strolled through to try Cocomero again. During the walk I passed by a corner with several Chinese ladies soliciting for massage. I saw one MILF that I thought was pretty fetching, we chatted for a minute and I told her I was on the way somewhere but I would look for her later. I was shut out of Cocomero again (Japanese only, they suggested to come back in the morning) and was walking back to my hotel intending to use another delivery health service, but the same Chinese MILF was still on that corner.

I walked up to her and she was excited to bring me up to her shop for the massage, but I told her I didn't really want a massage or to go to her incall, which would probably be cramped, shabby, etc. Instead, I told her I wanted her to come with me to a love hotel for FS. She acted like that was the most insane suggestion she had ever heard but she didn't walk away either. It took some convincing, but she eventually agreed to everything I wanted. It wasn't cheap (I think it ended up being Y30 K all in plus the love hotel fee) but we spent 90 minutes in the room for full GFE / PSE and she was very, very passionate. This kind of negotiation and activity is not for the faint of heart or Tokyo rookies, but I had a blast. ".

[Vendelo]

I've yet to monger in Japan but will do so this summer. Culture wise I think Thailand is pretty darn cool too and their temples are a lot prettier than the ones in Japan. But as far as the girls, I'll keep an open mind. I've sessioned with Japanese girls who come to Toronto Canada for a tour and so far I don't see their looks nor service in the bedroom any better than other Asian girls but I'm looking forward to my trip to Japan later this summer to see if they are actually worth their premium rates. Even if it ends up that my experiences with them in Japan is just about the same as with Thais, Pinays, Chinese and Koreans, I know for sure that the touristy things in Japan will be amazing.

1. I've been many times to Thailand and Japan.

2. Thai and Japanese temples are apples and oranges. Japanese temples were built using kigumi, an ancient technique in which hand-cut wooden joints lock together without nails or metal fasteners. Comprehend THAT if you are able.

3. I've not sessioned with JPN girls in Canada but have done so in the US. I guarantee you are seeing be Tier and below. I have been with S Tier girls in JPN.

4. Pinays and Chinese, I have sessioned with both, do not compare with JGirls or KGirls.

[Rick Rock]

ALERT FOR ALL EROTIC MASSAGE LOVERS! Sara is back at Tokyo Style and I have confirmed in the flesh, that yes it is indeed the legend who milked us all lovingly a few years back.

https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/therapists/Sara/

She's aged like a fine wine, with her body really holding up and her massage skills actually improving even more.

Sara has not picked up any English in the interceding 4-5 years, but that is no obstacle to her working your body head to toe and draining every fluid from your lymphs and testes.

I am always a fan of good erotic massage, but Sara is beyond that and well into "great" territory.

She's one I always save up to go the long distance, 2 hours or more. You will be edged and eroticized the entire time, plus you get a great legitimate full body massage before she makes you unload with use of her nude body, slippery oppai, and wet lips and tongue.

I DID go with her for the shorter hand job massage option once and that was actually quite good too, BUT I can't resist her sliding those milkers all over my dong in the nuru portion of the longer deluxe bareback blowjob route. So that is exactly what I do when repeating with her.

Surely some of you senior members have shot spunk into this same Sara's waiting mouth??

[Rick Rock]

In the past from women I've been with they've told me my dick is quite big (6 in, thick); will that be a problem for getting FS offered? This is my first time in Japan trying this.

No intention of bragging, but I've got some size over you, and after fucking hundreds of women in Japan I have never, even once, heard any mention of the size or complaint.

That sort of thing seems to be a lot more common in Thailand, Korea, or China, especially with women who don't really want to fuck foreigners and are looking for any excuse to say no or rush you through it.

[Vendelo]

Doesn't it still use the number attached to your phone? Don't really want to do this.

When signing up it says to use Apple ID, what number will it use?

What kind of information will they see from your LINE when you contact them?

I think only my username is visible but you might want to check.

[Topelite]

Install Line app.

Doesn't it still use the number attached to your phone? Don't really want to do this.

When signing up it says to use Apple ID, what number will it use?

What kind of information will they see from your LINE when you contact them?

[Vendelo]

I'm a fan of greek and strangely enough, anal / AF is legit legal in Japan! So I found this deliheru shop.

Thanks for the report. What is the name of the agency you referenced above?

[Vendelo]

I plan on doing DH at my hotel but I won't have a Japanese number. I heard the shops call to confirm your reservation and call when the provider has arrived. For those who have experience with this, how did they contact you without a Japanese phone number?

Install Line app.

[LAFreeway]

I plan on doing DH at my hotel but I won't have a Japanese number. I heard the shops call to confirm your reservation and call when the provider has arrived. For those who have experience with this, how did they contact you without a Japanese phone number?

They use Line, Telegram, WhatsApp etc. Was there last week. It's an easy process they are very efficient which is typical of Japan.

[HumbleCognac]

After sweet kiss I was a little leery of trusting google reviews for places so I hit up Yaosobi Heaven for something in Shinjuku for after Sweater Moon. I found Omotenashi Girls, I found the concept intersting, they promised foreigner friendly and had directions to their storefront.

Omotenashi Girls, Shinjuku.

This stores specialty is suppose to be a yukata clad girl gives you a massage and it turns erotic. I headed to the store around 9 pm, the man at the desk helped me right away showing me three ladies who would be available in the next 20 min or so. I selected Natsumi for the 70 min omotenashi course for 45,000 yen. After my previous slip up I was worried to go straight into another long session with an unknown girl.

The desk man then walks me a few blocks over to a hotel and checks me in (an additional 3,000) he hands me the girls kit for the course I selected and sends me up to the room..

I was in Kyoto last week. Visited (N-Cat), Kyoto Pink Salon, guided by your post, so thanks for that. Being a gaijin, I was told that their is only one girl available (their newest recruit, apparently, as per their website right now). She was okay-ish looking and very teethy unfortunately, but she tried her best, I guess. She wouldn't take her top off but neither did any of the other girls in that room. After about 30 minutes of bearing that I closed my eyes and used my imagination to climax because it sure as shit wasn't due to her skills. Damage was 10 k yen for 45 minutes. There is no privacy at all. I could stand from my seat and see 4 dudes getting blown out in the open. Never could I ever have imagined that such a place (pinsaro) existed somewhere, and it is legal. It is a novel experience that everyone should try atleast once. There were some really hot girls blowing Japanese dudes near me. I would have preferred them but I wasn't given a choice, so that sucks.

Two days before that, I checked out famous 'HP' massage parlour in Gion, Kyoto. I was told the rules (mainly, no sex). Was sat in a waiting room with 3 dudes, very awkward. Then my number came and a cute skinny girl lead me to tiny room with shower upstairs. She made me brush my teeth and showered with me, very clinical. She was cute but my Japanese is non existent, so couldn't talk much. She then got onto the bed and immediately started with the blowjob. She was much better at it and I came way too quickly. She then tried a lot for 2ND shot but I was too exhausted. We showered together and then it was goodbye.

I am going to be in Tokyo for the next 3 days, let me know if you have more such gems, that I should visit. Thanks again.

[Topelite]

I plan on doing DH at my hotel but I won't have a Japanese number. I heard the shops call to confirm your reservation and call when the provider has arrived. For those who have experience with this, how did they contact you without a Japanese phone number?

[Oregon97]

Has anyone tested this DH place? The web site says photos are 100% real and most girls have videos with all of them being amazingly hot.

[Rocketeer666]

I found some time to write my final guide about negotiating FS (full sex) at DH (delivery health). Maybe it's a scroll of wisdom, where just by reading it you are able to do stuff. But unlike in the movies, this scroll is free for anyone to have and read.

Recently, I interviewed a veteran Delivery Health girl after negotiating FS from her. Let's call her Momo. What Momo told me lines up 100% with what I knew but she helped me write down some important Japanese phrases.

So Momo says if she worked at soapland, she has to bang. But when she works DH, she can choose who she bangs. Maybe she thinks a guy is dirty, or just not in the mood, she can just say no to fs or quote a high price. Exactly like strippers at COI who offer it but not to every guy.

DH Negotiation for FS
I asked Momo about negotiation tactics, after having already negotiated with Momo and finished our session. I asked what if I suggest 10K tip ($65) to a girl. She says if the girl will take it then she takes it. Or if she wants more, she might raise it to 20K. Then the guy might take it or leave it, or one person suggests 15K. Note that with DH, the girl is already being paid for time and this is extra money on to. It's not hard for her to accept if she's willing to do it. But obviously if the guy gives off rich guy vibes she can GPS him. This is why my recommendation is to wait until you are hard and had enough of the foreplay / bj, then be the first to say a number. Start at 10K and don't seem too eager. Even if she replied with a ridiculous 40K, simply say 15K instead. You can even show her 15K saying it's all you have left. I have a ton of experience doing exactly this at high mileage strip clubs, it's no different. And of course, I had just done it with Momo.

It isn't hard in my experience and usually takes seconds because I time it right. I really would not go over 15K or 20K personally, but I have heard guys being asked GPS rates of 40K and up because the girl knew he had money and really desperately wanted to bang. If you MUST bang, soapland is an option btw. Anyways these things play out exactly the same as a high mileage strip club in the US and I can say from experience you have to start low and be willing to walk against GPS. An upside to getting 10K or 15K is if you really liked the girl, you can get her LINE and do it again OTC without the middle man. There are pros and cons to that, the shop guarantees the girl won't flake but if you genuinely get along with the girl you can see her on her "day off".

Do not fall in love! You might as well follow a Nigerian tout instead at that point!

Advanced Tactics
I mentioned to Momo one tactic where the guy can open his wallet and show "15K is all he has left", in which case the girl almost always accepts. Bribs did exactly that too. It's classic and unbeatable, the veteran guys literally won't bring any more than their final offer so that they don't slip up or cave in. I hope everyone understands what I'm really saying: the girls are trying to maximize their take but they will literally take the bare minimum if they believed that's all you had. Or the maximum if they believe you were "must have it" and willing. Exactly how strippers think at a high mileage US strip club. I've dealt with them for years at COI strip clubs in LA.

Momo joked in the case the guy shows his wallet, the girl will claim zaisan (zaisan = property) the connotation being "all the money in your wallet is my property now". A guy here is pleading the Japanese idiom "nai mono wa nai" (literally "nothing is nothing" meaning "I have nothing more"). It is a valid tactic, but a last resort I don't often use.

DH Love Hotel and rejecting a girl
The traditional way for DH is to check into a love hotel first then call up the DH you want to send a girl. They may call your room to confirm you are for real and for the safety of the girl. Normally love hotels are for couples, but you tell the front desk "a girl will come later" (ato de onna no ko ga kimasu). The love hotel staff deal with this all the time, day and night, so totally normal for them. This is how local Japanese typically do DH, though a few normal hotels can do it too. Obviously since foreigners / tourists aren't used to this system, the "foreigner friendly" and especially "foreigner only" shops may have some variation where the girl might escort you to a love hotel instead. They may also require payment upfront, which is not the default for DH.

Straight from Momo's mouth, she says guys will sometimes refuse a girl if they don't like her looks. Sending her away, typically asking the shop to send a different girl. Keep in mind we're talking about Japanese locals doing this, it does happen and I see it even in dramas as a trope. It's possible the shop gets upset and blocks you for repeatedly doing this, but many shops are fine as long as you "order another girl" and pay the nominal "transportation fee" you sometimes see listed. It's small, typically 1K ($6). The problem of course is if you only reserved your love hotel for 120 minutes and expect a girl to work 70, you can run into your own time limit. But you can always extend and pay the difference. Again, "foreigner only" places may have special rules about this.

What Momo has said and also what I've seen in jdramas is the guy will be polite and say that the girl "is not his type" rather than being rude and saying he doesn't like her or whatever. She explained a polite guy would say "Chotto taipu..de wa nai.." = "You're kind of not my type" followed by "Ano changu dekimasu ka?" = Um..can I change girls?. An alternative follow-up is "Ore kotsuu haraimasu" = "I'll pay transportation fees", referring to the small fee you often see tacked on as "transprot/taxi fee". Sometimes 1k or more depending on distance. I suppose if you speak no Japanese and she speaks no English, simply tell her by translator "Sorry, I want to change girls". Maybe offering her the listed fee directly.

With some "foreigner only" shops, they often take payment ahead of time so you can't easily refuse the girl. But you can still ask nicely if it's possible and pay the fee. A legit shop is more likely to allow this.

One shop I know of actually has a male staff escort the girl for her safety and collects payment before presenting he girl. I think Gingira does this. The good things is they have legit young and attractive girls so it's less of a risk. Whereas some of the lower tier DHs have the attitude of "We know some of our girls suck, so go ahead and send those back and choose another". Dh shops sometimes have high turnover, so they hire a bunch of girls and have no idea which ones are good. It's trial and error.

Lastly, about bbfs, I won't say it's common but between you and the girl. I've gotten it as well as been refused.

Next, I'll copy some links from my guide. All the guides are listed at:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966012 Japan Guides

Delivery Health
https://gingira.jp/gal.html Gingira girls, look for O next to International Customer
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira System
https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en/tokyo/A1304/gingira/ Gingira English ad plus girls' media
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html Gingira, girls generally young and photo accurate
https://amateurtokyo.com/ Tokyo Amateur Escorts
https://hentaitokyo.com/ Tokyo Hentai Club
https://escort-taitanic.com/ Taitanic Yokohama
https://camikaze.cc/escort/foreigner-friendly-escorts/ Example of how to DH
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...42#post2956442 Ichika Nagano did DH
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...34#post2963634 More photos of gingira girls
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...79#post2962479 Gingira and Tora no Ana
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...31#post2959631 Rick Rock visits Taitanic Yokohama
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...56#post2953656 Rick Rock tries Casanova in Yoshiwara

Momo compared DH to Domino Pizza, very convenient. Above I listed many shops and random reviews. My hope is by trial and error people will figure out which shops work best for foreigners. There is a cycle where shops learn how to serve foreign customers and get good at it, then open up more to them.

Nice Guide mate! .

Wondering if there are updates or any other fellas' input?

Cheers.