Phnom Penh

[June Fly]

How mainstream is analsex among the girls in Phnom Penh? Is this something most girls agree to in general?

Analsex is not mainstream with the bar girls, but you might have better luck with the freelancer girls on Line app and along the beach road.

[TwoCreoleCuzns]

So I just got back from a week in PP, honestly any hotel on riverside anywhere near 130-136 (they are next to each other) is fine. I was at Ohana and others from the group were at Amanjaya and neither of us had problems with guests. I was successful at both Massage Places, Girl Bars, and the "Strip Club". Honestly this might be one of my favorite places. I didn't try the street scene, but it was offered and very present at night. The price ranged and it truly depended on the location.

In general the Girl Bars had a $40,000 KHR - $80,000 KHR take out fee and the girl wanted roughly $300,000 KHR. I say roughly again because it is negotiable based on what you look like and your negotiation skills.

For the massage places, look for the ones that have the least offerings. The "real" spas offer waxes and manicures, etc. The ones with the secret menu, normally only offer a full body for $5 American. Everything else is negotiated later. I think my low was 220,000 ($55) KHR, but in general 300,000 ($70-75) KHR was the rate.

I do have a particular type though and normally they demand and get a little more.

The girl bars on 130-136 had the best options. This is because you can literally walk down the street and there were 100's of girls catcalling for their opportunity.

I'm not a fan of bareback, but I will tell you 90% of the women I was with, tried to start that way. I had to stop them to add protection. So it does seem to be the norm.

Happy Hunting,

The Big Cuzn.

[Dluxe]

How mainstream is analsex among the girls in Phnom Penh? Is this something most girls agree to in general?

[June Fly]

Can anyone please compare Lux Riverside to Tao Riverside? The location is identical and price similar, though Tao is slightly more expensive. I'd especially appreciate any comparisons regarding the overall quality of the hotels and how easygoing they are about bringing guests back to the hotel. Thanks!

I've stayed at Lux Riverside for a couple of nights. The quality was good; location was just convenient. There are bars right across the street, had no problems bringing girls over.

[GreenToad]

Can anyone please compare Lux Riverside to Tao Riverside? The location is identical and price similar, though Tao is slightly more expensive. I'd especially appreciate any comparisons regarding the overall quality of the hotels and how easygoing they are about bringing guests back to the hotel. Thanks!

[Sam Sanuk]

Almost at the end of this saga. See previous posts in Jakarta and The Philippines.

Flew into Phenom Penh from Jakarta at around dinner time, stayed at the Lux Riverside Hotel right at the end of 136 street. This appears to be an unofficial "Red Light" district down by the river, comprising only a few streets lined cheek to jowl with "hostess bars. " I only budgeted 2 nights in Cambodia, so I wanted to be in the center of things. This hotel is fantastic. Girl friendly, comfortable and right next to an outstanding Irish pub.

A great read. PP is my favorite Asian destination now. And the Lux is the only place I'll stay. Like I said, bars could not be couldn't be more convenient if there was one in the lobby. Never eaten at the Irish Pub, but plenty of good places from which to choose. I like Ohlala next door to the Lux and they'll bring food to your room at the Lux if you ask. Tourism is down big time in Cambodia these days, and, accordingly, so is your mongering "competition". I stay away from the streetwalkers along the riverside. Lots of druggies. I don't trust them.

The author of the great posting mentioned bareback and blow jobs. Bareback, in my experience, is the default in Cambodia; despite reports from years gone by, blow jobs are also prevalent.

Sam.

[Old And Ugly]

Almost at the end of this saga..........................................Too many dudes in Thai-ville. I was nothing special; I didn't stand out. Competition on another level. Also, too much noise, too much glitz and industry around tourism, too much First World comfort, if you know what I mean. Of course, YMMV.

Good detailed report, and very nice writing.

[Mosquito2002]

Traveling to Phnom Penh in earlly Oct, this'll be my 8th trip to Cambodia and my 5th time visiting Phnom Penh. Last visit was in Feb this year.

Lots can change in a few months, especially with prices and bars / clubs.

Any recent info / intel would be appreciated.

[Edward Q]

Almost at the end of this saga. See previous posts in Jakarta and The Philippines.

Flew into Phenom Penh from Jakarta at around dinner time, stayed at the Lux Riverside Hotel right at the end of 136 street. This appears to be an unofficial "Red Light" district down by the river, comprising only a few streets lined cheek to jowl with "hostess bars. " I only budgeted 2 nights in Cambodia, so I wanted to be in the center of things. This hotel is fantastic. Girl friendly, comfortable and right next to an outstanding Irish pub. Also, it's in the center of all things stimulating in PP. Upon arrival, it was a little unsettling to be "woo-woo"-ed by the gaggle of girls sitting outside all the clubs on that street, but it only happened on my arrival. The rules for picking up girls at bars varies from country to country. Here, the standard bar fine applies, plus you pay the girl. I guess that's the same as in Thailand and Angeles City, except I did not find the prices overly oppressive. However, I did find it difficult to make an educated selection with up to 12 girls seated in front of the "Hostess bars" who are all simultaneously eye-fucking you, inviting you into the parlor, promising to make all your dreams come true. I enjoyed the company of two girls in two nights. Both amazing, both random encounters. First was Era and here's how I connected with her.

I found myself sitting with some Expats drinking out in front of the convenience store, right in front of the Lux on 136, which is a great spot to drink and girl-watch in the clubs on either side of you. If you are lucky, one club will be playing 70's rock. I always enjoy talking to guys who have some mileage living amongst the natives as they have a true perspective on what works and what doesn't. After a couple hours of swigging beer, two of these guys decided to do some edibles, and as a result, downshifted accordingly. This left me with the third guy, who I'll call Paul. A longtime resident of the city, now retired, he had an idea to keep drinking and I was right there with him. He had the hots for a bartender at a place up the street, to the left of a bar called Alaska, he said, so we walked up there and went in. The vibe was deadsville. The barmaid he fancied was in deep conversation with the lesbian mamasan, and there were no other girls around. We were just two guys having beers, but the setting had potential, meaning, with a little cash and the right company, we could own this place. The butch mamasan understood her mission and ran out and got girls to come in and sit with us. Now that's service. I was pleased with one lady who, for some reason, took a shine to me, while Paul was feeling ignored by the bartender who, it turns out, was the woman he recalled from his last visit and really, really wanted to spend time with. But she was ignoring him. I took control of the situation by yelling out across the bar in my drunken stupor, "Hey! He likes you!" The bartender suddenly became aware of our presence; she was indeed different looking than other girls on the block, and I could see why Paul fancied her. She smiled brightly, came right over and the pair immediately began to engage in a mating ritual: make jokes, drink, then flirt, then laugh, then drink some more, then get up and dance, while oblivious to all other spirits in the room. It was sweet. Paul directed the music on the bar's computer, so we were feeling no pain, chillin' out to 70's rock and good company.

The girl who I wound up with was named Era, one of 3 or 4 who had answered the clarion call. She was a lot of fun. We drank quite a bit and got very cozy on the couch. Easy going, no pressure, just loved hanging out. I could not tell her age due to the mood lighting and was quite shocked when she told me she was 41. Impossible to believe, as she had a youthful glow about her. But I was enjoying the "handsy" freestyle play she permitted. No objection as my hands explored under her dress to cup her tits and rub her stomach, butt, inner thigh and nether regions, while she dry-humped me through my shorts. Too much fun, I could not take it anymore. From here on all my decisions were alcohol infused, so my memory is a bit shotty. I said goodbye to Paul who was in his own world with his new friend. I barfined Era and walked arm in arm in the direction of my hotel. I don't recall what the barfine was, but it was the standard rate. Perhaps a bit cheaper as we were not at the most popular joint on the street. I think we stopped along the way to eat something. I have a vague memory of needing food to balance all the booze I had pounded. It was unmemorable. At the hotel, we walked right by the desk clerk who didn't even look up, went to the room, showered and hit the bed. Era was a dirty girl and did anything I asked. With years of training under her bustier, she knew exactly how to play the game. When she understood what turned me on, she leaned into it with a convincing passion. Her kisses were wet, her hands moved with purpose, and her tongue penetrated every hole. She felt very tight around my cock, in spite of her age and her kid or kids. Everything bareback. Came in her mouth, which she didn't seem to mind. I paid her what she asked and walked her downstairs. In the elevator I said to her, "You know, you are the oldest woman I have ever fucked," which is true. My divorce 26 years ago has redirected my purview to younger helpmates, so I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed her. I saw Era again the following night, sitting in the club next to the convenience store, amongst the group of ladies doing what they all do. I can't understand how they can make a living when there are up to 12 of them out front and maybe one guy hanging out, nursing his beer.

One highlight was the good food I found in that entertainment district: a well-stocked supermarket at the corner, excellent dumpling place on the next block, and of course the Irish stew at the pub next to the Lux. After Jakarta, I was happy with food I could identify.

At the eastern end of 136 street there is a pretty park that runs along the river. The Mekong river splits just south of this park and forms the Tonle Sap river, with huge, shockingly grotesque neon lit billboards erected on the opposite bank. It's a quaint stroll up and down this walkway at night, if you ignore the glaring capitalism across the water, and it's here you'll find the trans girls offering their unique gifts. I met an Englishman who was barhopping to test his 7-year anniversary for remaining sober, drinking nothing but seltzer. He had been in Phenom Penh for several months and liked the atmosphere. He said he had good luck picking up girls along this riverside park. I asked if he had trouble distinguishing the girls from the ladyboys, and he admitted that, yes, it was not easy. They will also lie to you, telling you they are girls when, in the room, it turns out that they are not. He had to ask one pretender to leave as their particular configuration did not jive with the three-way he had arranged. But typically, he said, you can find an assortment of SWs out there. I myself did not see many girls, but I only did the walk a few times. I have to imagine that in the busy season, you will find plenty of SWs.

In the lead up to an encounter, I like nothing more than sitting, drinking beer and enjoying the scenery. I was confused by two little girls, aged 12 and 10 it looked like, and also a boy of about the same age, who were hanging around this side of the street, their center point being the hostess bar next to where I was sitting with the exPats. I pulled one older "hostess" from the pack to find out what gives. "Surely these girls are not working. " She laughed in my face, "Sure they are! If you want to go to jail!" So why are they here so late at night? She pointed to another middle-aged woman sitting amongst the group and said, "She can't leave them at home alone, so she brings them to work. " OK. A conscientious mother who cares about her kids. And yet. I was left wondering about the role models that surround them every night. Silly and fun, but so desperately bored – I bought them ice cream and soda just to try and see them smile, which they did – it would be a shame if they busted their cherries at too young an age, ruining the experience for them forever. This setting, combined with the gritty, hardened older teens I saw them hanging out with when their mother was out of sight – face piercings, tattoos, the pungent smell of marijuana reeking from their knock-off designer clothing – it did not portend much deviation from the career path of their mother. First world values do no apply in places like Phenom Penh. My primary reason for being here was connected to the activity along this street. I needed to stow my hypocrisy, stop pretending like I cared about the collateral damage of my hobby. It would be easier if I did not fall in love with every girl who smiles at me, sharing a twinkle in her eye that stirs something in my loins. Heck, I'm only human.

The next night I explored 130 Street, which is the other street with rows of "hostess bars. " I don't think they strip inside. Pretty sure they don't. But I knew from experience that once inside and settled with your date, your hands are free to roam as long as the lady drinks are flowing. Some of the best bits of an encounter are spent chatting with the girl pre-fuck and discovering if there is chemistry. You want her to like you, to perform like she enjoys what she's doing, generate a GFE, and the depths of her affection will increase the more you get to know her. A lot also depends on luck. Sometimes I get a goose egg, but on this trip, my hand included more than my share of aces. Cheatz turned out to be a wonder.

At times I enjoy the slow build up, the flirting over drinks. Other times I just want to hit and run. This second night I wanted to fuck a cute girl without the games beforehand, so I kept my eye out for a girl who appeared to be on this same wavelength. Once again, I was rewarded. I found a smiley girl sitting outside one of these places with the same aspirations as all the rest. But she was baby girl cute. Established the girl's price, then barfined her and walked arm and arm to the hotel, only a few blocks away, in a "getting to know you" conversation. Holding hands and joking, it was a nice way to get a sense of her temperament. She was quite chill and cool, said she was 20 years old and that her name was something that sounded like Cheatz. Good English, very confident and funny, and she performed like the eager young bunny that she was. So dirty, so happy to tongue fuck and rim. The girls who do this and go beyond the point of reason. Like, "You have already won the prize, girl, you don't have to continue with such gusto. " But she liked using her tongue in perverted ways, which sent me to heaven. I had to taste that pussy, such a sweet one. Showering before is the key, of course, to let her know you intend to do some serious licking down there. In the shower I can get the measure of how much fun the girl will be. Cheatz was playful, had me wash her then insisted she do the same to me, soaping up my privates with both pleasure and hygiene in mind. She was not up for CIM, which is fine. I wanted to make the deposit on her perfectly sized cupcake tits. No childbirth scars to dimmish their beauty. We showered again after and I walked her downstairs, wishing I had more time with her.

Neither girl asked for payment up front – besides the usual bar fine. Neither mentioned the word "condom". I don't know what I paid but it was nothing exorbitant. On par with what others have reported here in Cambodia. I also don't recall if I paid in USD or Riels. I think Riels as I had gotten too much at the airport ATM. I always prefer the local currency; however, if you jump from the Philippines to Indonesia to Cambodia, and then have to set your mind to Thailand – the wild variation in currency exchange will cause your head to spin.

Two fun days in Phenom Penh. I will be back for a much longer stay once I retire. It seems like an affordable city, and I know the girls are a hoot. Maybe I just got lucky, but I found that these girls – those I slept with and those who I just spoke with – don't mind intimacy with a guy 20 or 40 years older than they are. Another blessing.

Off to Thailand tomorrow. For those following the saga since my arrival in the Philippines 15 days ago, I'll reveal that Thailand was just OK. I enjoyed the company of some fine young ladies, but the three cities I went to were far from the "Wild, Wild West" of the Philippines, Jakarta and Phenom Penh. Too many dudes in Thai-ville. I was nothing special; I didn't stand out. Competition on another level. Also, too much noise, too much glitz and industry around tourism, too much First World comfort, if you know what I mean. Of course, YMMV.

[Red Kilt]

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Night 2: I wanted to check out Darling Darling even though I read how expensive it is. I got there about 11:30 pm and there's 7 girls sitting in the room, none of them are attractive even by Riverwalk standards. I open the door into the next room with the stage and I didn't really look too closely but seemed everyone was just enjoying listening to music. I left back to Riverwalk.

You didn't stay at Darlin' Darlin' long enough. I have lots of work in PNH and when I go to Nagaworld I enjoy the music and nightclub atmosphere of DD. You need to bypass the "7 girls sitting in a room" scene. It all happens in the larger showroom where the band performs. I always get my own table alone and wait to be approached. It's an easy way to check out the scene, and also easy to send them away (or have a pleasant conversation if she seems pleasant). If nobody approaches (unlikely for me), I just enjoy the music. It provides a more relaxed variation on the Riverside bar scene, which is also part of my routine when the mood moves me.

[NRandom940]

My hotel was on the Riverwalk street.

Night 1: I got into one bar and picked the hottest girl. Bought her drink for $5 and she said she didn't barfine, but other girls do. They all lined up, I picked the best looking one. Up close, her face didn't look at good but her body was still nice. I asked if she did $70, she said $80. I was going to do it, but then she said there was also a $20 house fee. I was looking for an excuse to cancel the deal and that my excuse. I left that bar. I walked down the street, now determined to make sure the girl bar fines before I go in. I only talk to ones that are good looking enough to me, which is about 1 out of every 15. I talked to a girl sitting outside, she said $120 I thought it was too high. A few bars down, I got $80 with $20 house fee (no drink purchase necessary) so we went to my hotel. Had a great time.

Day 2: I went to a massage place in an area of town that I had noted while driving in a taxi 4 years ago, but never went to until now. It was a $5 massage place. She offered sex for extra $30, but I only extra $15 so we did HJ. I only brought $20 with me because of the stories about secret holes in the walls, but there was none of that here. She even told me to put my clothes on the bed right next to my head. I checked the walls upon leaving and none were fake. There were 5 girls to choose from, 2 of them were attractive. Here's a GPS 11.5417661, 104.9092167.

Night 2: I wanted to check out Darling Darling even though I read how expensive it is. I got there about 11:30 pm and there's 7 girls sitting in the room, none of them are attractive even by Riverwalk standards. I open the door into the next room with the stage and I didn't really look too closely but seemed everyone was just enjoying listening to music. I left back to Riverwalk. I stopped at one place and sat with the girl and bought drink. She didn't speak much English but seemed she had a bad attitude and would barely even look or speak to me. I didn't have patience for this, so I paid and left. I talked to another 7/10 girl outside a bar and asked if she bar fined. She said there are girls there that bar fine (LOL) so not her apparently. The only other 2 good looking girls I saw was the one who quoted me $120 the previous night and another girl who was loudly trying to get me into the bar, but then when I leaned in close to talk to her, she leaned away LOL. I decided to call it a night because this place is overpriced for what it is anyway, so I see no need to put in this much effort.

[Axiata]

So the week in PP came to a close and it was again a trip full of the familiar but also of a few surprises. Familiar, well a lot of bars and girls and not that many punters. Usual number of bars with average quality girls and finding gems is possible but you need to take the time to look. Surprises, well the girls I took from a number of bars were very willing and keen to please. I guess with so few punters they do not get a lot of drink money or bar fined. None of the bars I went into had girls that said no to a bar fine. The best bars for talent seemed to be in 136, more towards the end where Wild Orchid and Alaska bar were. It seemed that the best time to be in the bars was around the 10.30 pm mark as that is when some of the daytime bars rotate their day shifts and the nights shifts come in. Wild Orchid particularly had a number of stunning girls. Bar Hopping around 130 and 136 was great fun however we tended to stick a few bars, Cowgirls, Bar 69 and Wild Orchid. Now the overall quality in Cowgirls was nowhere near what there was in Wild Orchid, however one particular SYT caught my wingman's eye and he had to barfine her. She did not disappoint. Quality in Bar 69 also varied but improved a lot once the day shift girls left and the night girls came in. I barfine a SYT from there a couple of times and she was such a pleasant surprise. Passionate DFK and offered BBBJ with multiple positions and loved DATY. A real gem and a surprise in that she got me to finish twice, very rare at my age!

The girls from all the bars we bar fined from were real GFE's and some were nearly PSE. A lot of girls do not perform BBBJ but on this trip all of them were keen, especially after a long DATY and they were keen to reciprocate.

PP is great fun if you have time to bar hop. The girls are fun and can be pushy for drinks although if you let them know that you will not be buying everyone in the bar a drink they do leave you alone. The nights can be a buzz but the days are long and hot. Lucky we have daytime things to do. Looking forward to returning soon.

Happy Hunting.

[Axiata]

Thanks, I didn't know I could break them at a 711 or at the airport Starbucks. That is what I will do.

Having just come back from PP I can say it is easy to change $100 USD for smaller USD notes. I did at both at a bank. ABA Bank. And at a travel agent along riverside near street 136 - LM8 or LK8 - something like that. Easy to do, although the notes need to be very good and free from tears or major creases. Travel agent also exchanges money at very good rates.

Happy Hunting.

[KyivBound1986]

Not that big of a hassle. I normally bring at least 40 1. 00 dollar bills, 10 5. 00 dollar bills, 10 10.00 dollar bills, 10 twenty dollar bills and 6 50.00 dollar bills along woth my 100.00 bills for a week stay.

If I need to break a hundred I'll just hit 711 (normally, will get change in USD down to 5. 00 dollar bills and below that it'll be riel) or I'll hit Naga World (cash cages operate in USD and you'll even get 1. 00 dollar bills, I've even got 2. 00 dollar bills a few times).

Also, depending the length of your stay having 100.00 USD in riel isn't a problem. Easy to use for Grab rides, tips and small purchases.

Oh, almost forgot the airport Starbucks also will give you change similar to 711. If you need smaller bills for bus / taxi fare to your hotel.

Thanks, I didn't know I could break them at a 711 or at the airport Starbucks. That is what I will do.

[SouthEaster]

Why don't you guys get with the program and use Riel? Bring enough small shit to see you through any circumstances where you need USD (there should be none) and simply hit ATMs when you need cash. And yes You can get Riel out of one when you want!