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DJ FourMoney
09-08-09, 19:59
I don't think this will be a new entitlement at all. Many AW already believe that dining on tenders shoots is their right. I recall a cougar that pursued a buddy and I. She was probably old enough to be our mother. After turning down her aggressive advances numerous times we discovered that she had an attractive daughter close to our ages. So we told the cougar that we were interested in her daughter. Her response was no way. The reason given was that we were too experienced and her daughter was a "good girl." Never mind that her daughter was on birth control and had an unemployed boyfriend who visited her at home alone while her mother was at work. She insisted that the daughter was still a virgin. She then asked us if we could hire the unemployed boyfriend. Of course, we did not and had a good laugh. We found it hypocritical and highly amusing that this old cougar wanted to keep her daughter "chase" while attempting to put mileage on our young bodies with her old dusty rug. As far as she was concerned her daughter deserved someone who was inexperienced while we deserved someone twice our age with two kids and a menopausal pussy.
LOL, you said "Dusty Rug"
It is hypocritical, like I said its in reverse... Younger women often times want even younger or inexperienced men so they can take advantage of them. You should hear it spun by some women. On Plentyoffish, one lady even pointed out something Frank Kaiser said about older women.
I actually cringed when I read it because it does give Carte Blanche to those "Pass Their Due Date"
For every Demi Moore there's thousand of saggy, tore up looking women around here age. Black/Asian/Latino women age well but still, why should I do that?
Personal Sites are dominated by women between 30-45, this is the fall out from our 80% divorce rate.
'cause you're super horny regardless of age, and get "peer pressured" not to chase the young p*ssy.
i don't give a f*ck about age: i only care if the p*ssy is good or not!
— San Diego Chargers star outside linebacker Shawne Merriman (FSY) said he did not harm reality TV star Tila Tequila at his home early Sunday and added he was concerned for her safety because she appeared to be intoxicated.
Merriman was arrested and accused of choking and throwing Tequila to the ground as she tried to leave his home in suburban Poway. Tequila signed a citizen's arrest warrant charging Merriman with battery and false imprisonment. Both are felonies.
"At the time, I was concerned about her welfare given the intoxicated state she appeared to be in and I encouraged her to stay until safe transportation could be provided," Merriman said in the statement. "We would all do our best to help a friend if we considered their actions to be detrimental to their personal safety.
"I in no way caused any harm to Ms. Nguyen, however, paramedics were called and she was examined but no injuries were reported," the statement continued.
"It's kind of a tough situation where you think you're doing the right thing," Merriman said Monday. "I'm glad that everyone was safe at the end of the day. I don't think I will regret that part."
Nightclub owner says Tequila is lying about not drinking before Merriman incident
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/chargers/2009-09-07-shawne-merriman_N.htm
Two things trouble me about this incident. First, Tequila was examined by paramedics and found to have no injuries. Second, the Night Club owner clearly states the scorned b*i*t*c*h*, Tequila, was lying about not drinking before the incident. To those of you who have your heads in your asses, when it comes to your blind support of AW, here's more proof about those lying, scheming American winches.
'cause you're super horny regardless of age, and get "peer pressured" not to chase the young p*ssy.
i don't give a f*ck about age: i only care if the p*ssy is good or not!
you got that right!!!! imho, a dick that has not seen action for many years would be pleased with a 100+yr old pussy.
Of course the old girls will not be portrayed as perverts, sleazebags, users, creepy. Ect.
Excuse me while I retch.
LE
Chocha Monger
09-09-09, 15:22
'cause you're super horny regardless of age, and get "peer pressured" not to chase the young p*ssy.
i don't give a f*ck about age: i only care if the p*ssy is good or not!
a 20 yr old guy can't afford to have that kind of attitude. even though 40 yr old pussy is nearing menopause country it is still possible for pregnancy to occur. u.s courts don't care if your mama cougar is twice your age. you're gonna pay that child support for 18-21 yrs. would you like to be 20 yrs old trying to get a start on life with the burden of a child support payment and a vindictive old cougar snarling at you at every turn. do you really think that these old cougars are all about fun? they want relationships just like all women. cougars will often say that they want a young man so that they can "train him right." these women tend to be aggressive and controlling. they can't get away with these kinds of things with guys their own age. do you really want to date someone who plays a sick mommy that sexually molests you?
so now your baby mama is a cougar and she expects you to spend every waking moment with your cougar cub, but you have interests that young men have that doesn't involve taking along her and junior. do you see where this is going? do you think that she'll let you off the hook just because she is twice your age? some of these middle aged cougars are out there getting their uterus scraped out and popping fertility pills just to get knocked up by some young fool. they're lonely and desperate. "cougar" is just a hip new name used to sell what used to be called an "old settler" many years ago. they're dying to give some youngster that 20% handicap for 21 yrs and maybe even get some alimony out of him depending on how vindictive they happen to be. due to their spending habits many of them don't have squat because they partied and shopped their youth away. now they want to live off someone else's youth.
young guys should be out there dating girls their own age. it is probably their best shot at finding someone decent to marry. after 26 yrs of age their prospects will rapidly start to diminish. they shouldn't be wasting their time playing games with dangerous old women who fucked up their lives and are out their looking to take away some young guy's youth.
having an any pussy will do attitude is the fastest way to fuck your life up in america.
The guys were talking a bit about that last night when we did our
fantasy draft, I hadn't heard about it so really didn't know. How interesting, and so exactly true, any time one of these NAW 'hoes think they have a chance to win the lottery, boom, look out below.
a 20 yr old guy can't afford to have that kind of attitude. even though 40 yr old pussy is nearing menopause country it is still possible for pregnancy to occur. u.s courts don't care if your mama cougar is twice your age. you're gonna pay that child support for 18-21 yrs. would you like to be 20 yrs old trying to get a start on life with the burden of a child support payment and a vindictive old cougar snarling at you at every turn. do you really think that these old cougars are all about fun? they want relationships just like all women. cougars will often say that they want a young man so that they can "train him right." these women tend to be aggressive and controlling. they can't get away with these kinds of things with guys their own age. do you really want to date someone who plays a sick mommy that sexually molests you?
so now your baby mama is a cougar and she expects you to spend every waking moment with your cougar cub, but you have interests that young men have that doesn't involve taking along her and junior. do you see where this is going? do you think that she'll let you off the hook just because she is twice your age? some of these middle aged cougars are out there getting their uterus scraped out and popping fertility pills just to get knocked up by some young fool. they're lonely and desperate. "cougar" is just a hip new name used to sell what used to be called an "old settler" many years ago. they're dying to give some youngster that 20% handicap for 21 yrs and maybe even get some alimony out of him depending on how vindictive they happen to be. due to their spending habits many of them don't have squat because they partied and shopped their youth away. now they want to live off someone else's youth.
young guys should be out there dating girls their own age. it is probably their best shot at finding someone decent to marry. after 26 yrs of age their prospects will rapidly start to diminish. they shouldn't be wasting their time playing games with dangerous old women who fucked up their lives and are out their looking to take away some young guy's youth.
having an any pussy will do attitude is the fastest way to fuck your life up in america.
personal legal experience verifies your summation, chocha monger.
damn, you're good!
Having an any pussy will do attitude is the fastest way to fuck your life up in America.
The key to pussy is - never fuck anyone who knows your real name (or anything about you). When I go home I only fuck streetwalkers or call-girls.
I used to tell my friends that the best birth control was: 'Never let her know your real name.'
Chocha Monger
09-09-09, 23:16
Meat Loaf,
This is USA reality!
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2639
Two things trouble me about this incident. First, Tequila was examined by paramedics and found to have no injuries. Second, the Night Club owner clearly states the scorned b*i*t*c*h*, Tequila, was lying about not drinking before the incident. To those of you who have your heads in your asses, when it comes to your blind support of AW, here's more proof about those lying, scheming American winches.
If SM had chocked her she would have been seriously injured. I saw him at a club in LA and he is huge and powefully built...he looks more like a defensive end than a 'backer...I think he's about 6'4 270 and ripped.
Tequilla can't weight more than 105 pounds after a buffet.
But if a big man like that were to even shake Tq's hand it would likley hurt her...I wonder how he fucked her.
Meat Loaf,
This is USA reality!
http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2639
This is utter bullshit! A basic premise of law and public policy is that courts will not support illegal behavior (for example I sell you weed it turns out to be mixed cooking herbs you can't sue me for fraud). This woman committed a crime and now she is being allowed to exact a fee for doing so! If she is so rabid about the child being supported, let her give it up for adoption to a loving solvent couple who want a family.
Young guys should be out there dating girls their own age. It is probably their best shot at finding someone decent to marry. After 26 yrs of age their prospects will rapidly start to diminish. They shouldn't be wasting their time playing games with dangerous old women who fucked up their lives and are out their looking to take away some young guy's youth.
Having an any pussy will do attitude is the fastest way to fuck your life up in America.
Powerful words.
We had one of these dick fiends on a NATO based I worked at. She was the paper pusher and fucked basically all the guys who belonged to my company and some of the French soldiers. It didn’t matter to her old, fat, short, tall, Black, White, like a champion boxer she took on all challengers. She was Caucasian and 50 years old.
One night she crept in on me talking about the gym has me looking good…I ignored her ass like all hell. I couldn’t bring myself to fuck something like that I don’t know how the other guys did and I am a self professed addict.
The key to pussy is - never fuck anyone who knows your real name (or anything about you). When I go home I only fuck streetwalkers or call-girls.
I used to tell my friends that the best birth control was: 'Never let her know your real name.'
Overseas
Get a fake (1) state drivers license, (2) social security card, and (3) birth certificate on the street from the Mexicans in major USA markets for US $80. You this as your identification.
You can get a fake id upon arrival overseas from the street, but don't keep it simple like a work id or phony a*s school.
Place your passport in a safe upon arrival and never retrieve it.
Don't use license plates on your car. Or if you do rent someone's license plates and even they will not know your real name due to fake identification.
Or rent someone's car with plates, insurance, and your phony identification. Pay for 6-months in advance. Present the landlord a fake business card and brochure.
Do not get anything like cable or telephone unless the landlord puts it in their name.
You can purchase fake passports all day long in Lima, Peru, for US $1,000.
Rent your housing with the fake identification, but better is just to pay cash for 6-months in advance. The landlord will forget about the identification. Present the landlord a fake business card and brochure.
Therefore, any girl you meet who thinks she's smarter than you will have limited resources and they will be fake.
Domestic
Same sh*t!
Get a fake (1) state drivers license, (2) social security card, and (3) birth certificate on the street from the Mexicans in major USA markets for US $80. You this as your identification.
The one difference is not to drive so live in major cities. People get caught-up with the police / court from driving. Or better yet, drive without license and spend the 3-days in county and get a suspended license charge. Or keep the license in the a hidden compartment within the car and retrieve when the police pull you over. If you're riding with a b*tch in the car and the cop says your name, dump that hoe immediately. She may think she's smart and pull court traffic stop records then. Dilemma: In the State of Texas failure to have state issued identification upon your person is "Failure to ID," a felony.
Better yet, get as many females pregnant as possible 'cause 100% of nothing is nothing! And you can live stress free!
Powerful words.
We had one of these dick fiends on a NATO based I worked at. She was the paper pusher and fucked basically all the guys who belonged to my company and some of the French soldiers. It didn’t matter to her old, fat, short, tall, Black, White, like a champion boxer she took on all challengers. She was Caucasian and 50 years old.
One night she crept in on me talking about the gym has me looking good…I ignored her ass like all hell. I couldn’t bring myself to fuck something like that I don’t know how the other guys did and I am a self professed addict.
Good job staying strong!
........Or better yet, just use a condom. I don't fuck any female without one PERIOD.
Overseas
Get a fake (1) state drivers license, (2) social security card, and (3) birth certificate on the street from the Mexicans in major USA markets for US $80. You this as your identification.
You can get a fake id upon arrival overseas from the street, but don't keep it simple like a work id or phony a*s school.
Place your passport in a safe upon arrival and never retrieve it.
Don't use license plates on your car. Or if you do rent someone's license plates and even they will not know your real name due to fake identification.
Or rent someone's car with plates, insurance, and your phony identification. Pay for 6-months in advance. Present the landlord a fake business card and brochure.
Do not get anything like cable or telephone unless the landlord puts it in their name.
You can purchase fake passports all day long in Lima, Peru, for US $1,000.
Rent your housing with the fake identification, but better is just to pay cash for 6-months in advance. The landlord will forget about the identification. Present the landlord a fake business card and brochure.
Therefore, any girl you meet who thinks she's smarter than you will have limited resources and they will be fake.
Domestic
Same sh*t!
Get a fake (1) state drivers license, (2) social security card, and (3) birth certificate on the street from the Mexicans in major USA markets for US $80. You this as your identification.
The one difference is not to drive so live in major cities. People get caught-up with the police / court from driving. Or better yet, drive without license and spend the 3-days in county and get a suspended license charge. Or keep the license in the a hidden compartment within the car and retrieve when the police pull you over. If you're riding with a b*tch in the car and the cop says your name, dump that hoe immediately. She may think she's smart and pull court traffic stop records then. Dilemma: In the State of Texas failure to have state issued identification upon your person is "Failure to ID," a felony.
Better yet, get as many females pregnant as possible 'cause 100% of nothing is nothing! And you can live stress free!
Defiantly agree bag it before you dip it.
'Oh my God, I stumbled across the Wendy Williams Show last night and it was hard to stomach as a male.
This b*tch talks about nothing else, with the celebrity of today as the evidential proof, but women "winning lottery tickets via marriage. And the "loss of freedom" to the husband. Once the crowd cheers this contractual agreement she talks about the spouse / fiancee / girlfriend being pregnant and the automatic victory of 20 years child support with more loss of freedom via "fatherhood."
This show is 1-hour!
It's all about cheers and geers of women using p*ssy to get suckers to marry them, successful suckers only, and then pregnancy as the financial payday!
Defiantly agree bag it before you dip it.
........Or better yet, just use a condom. I don't fuck any female without one PERIOD.
If condom usage and it's failure were a legal defense than the nonsense you guys wrote would be valid, but since it is not you guys sound like some fools!
Tighten' up, and double protect yourself with her getting the injection shot administered by you.
You guys and your responses are the exact ignorance that society subjugates you to. With responses like the above, you guys should get playedm and stay off of the "American Woman" thread.
Pathetic.
It's your opinion, you believe whatever you want to believe. I have my own opinion and my experience backs it's up. I've NEVER had a condom fail on me PERIOD and I've fucked hundreds of women, with a condom of course, and never caught an STD or impregnated anyone. So, SIR, you are the fool, going around and fucking any and all comers without protection.
If condom usage and it's failure were a legal defense than the nonsense you guys wrote would be valid, but since it is not you guys sound like some fools!
Tighten' up, and double protect yourself with her getting the injection shot administered by you.
You guys and your responses are the exact ignorance that society subjugates you to. With responses like the above, you guys should get playedm and stay off of the "American Woman" thread.
Pathetic.
It's your opinion, you believe whatever you want to believe. I have my own opinion and my experience backs it's up. I've NEVER had a condom fail on me PERIOD and I've fucked hundreds of women, with a condom of course, and never caught an STD or impregnated anyone. So, SIR, you are the fool, going around and fucking any and all comers without protection.
You did a "red herring." No offense Capt. Ajax, but the topic was not condom usage. Another ISG member said that he lies to all women so that they do not know who he is in the event they want to extort / child support / etcetera. My post in response to his "always lying" was to take it even further with the false identification too.
We said nothing about "safe sex!" That irrelevant anyway. We were conversing on the lying aspect of males towards females as a method for privacy.
You are okay in my book, Capt. Ajax & the other guy, but you guys missed the point entirely and "read talking points."
You did a "red herring." No offense Capt. Ajax, but the topic was not condom usage. Another ISG member said that he lies to all women so that they do not know who he is in the event they want to extort / child support / etcetera. My post in response to his "always lying" was to take it even further with the false identification too.
We said nothing about "safe sex!" That irrelevant anyway. We were conversing on the lying aspect of males towards females as a method for privacy.
You are okay in my book, Capt. Ajax & the other guy, but you guys missed the point entirely and "read talking points."
Why waste time and effort procuring fake documents, when I can just pay USD$15 for a box of U.S sourced condoms and USE 'em.....I've never had a condom let me down yet. Now if we were dealing with a lying sinister ***** then it could present a little problem.
I just saw on Fox News the results of a poll why American women have sex with their husbands. I took notes... Included on the list in no particular order were:
1) To keep a quiet home life
2) Out of boredom
3) To receive more gifts
4) To get the man to do chores
5) Out of sympathy
OMFG! Why do guys get married?
I thought the reasons were.
1) Enjoy sex too
2) Duty as a good mate
3) Need money
Ummmm if the guys were given a poll the answer would be:
1) Horny
Societies need to address this issue..... Armed with this knowledge.. why do guys get married
Why waste time and effort procuring fake documents, when I can just pay USD$15 for a box of U.S sourced condoms and USE 'em.....I've never had a condom let me down yet. Now if we were dealing with a lying sinister ***** then it could present a little problem.
Yeah, that's all I was saying.
I believe in honesty, but for those that want to lie and live lies then they might as well do if properly / full-board.
I'm glad that you and I agree Capt. Ajax!
I just saw on Fox News the results of a poll why American women have sex with their husbands. I took notes... Included on the list in no particular order were:
1) To keep a quiet home life
2) Out of boredom
3) To receive more gifts
4) To get the man to do chores
5) Out of sympathy
OMFG! Why do guys get married?
I thought the reasons were.
1) Enjoy sex too
2) Duty as a good mate
3) Need money
Ummmm if the guys were given a poll the answer would be:
1) Horny
Societies need to address this issue..... Armed with this knowledge.. why do guys get married
The past couple of weeks I thought about that and the answer is lonliness, fear of lonliness, social standing, and glee / fear for pussy.
But is it worth the life that marriage gives you? I don't know. The only difference is I can dump them and get a new one with little hassel, while marriage is a long-time departure and emotional pain afterwards.
........Or better yet, just use a condom. I don't fuck any female without one PERIOD.
Is female just a subset of those you fuck? Your specification of female implied that. Heh heh, just kidding.
As for me I don't find sex with a condom to be enjoyable at all, and in fact shooting a load in the woman is half the fun. While I do prefer to do this in her ass, in the case of vaginal sex pregnancy is a danger, and I think anonymity is a good precaution.
Many thanks to Meat Loaf for the great ideas on maintaining a misleading identity!
You don't really want them to know who you are regardless of whether they get pregnant or not. For all kinds of reasons. They don't have to be pregnant to blackmail you (although it certainly helps). I don't use fake ID but there is nothing lying around with my last name on it and my ID stays in my wallet, which stays in my pants, which stay in my sight.
All else with last name is in locked cabinet. All ATM/CC receipts are destroyed as soon as I see the transaction on the Net and meantime they stay in the wallet. It pisses me off that ATMs show your last name (and print your balance) a lot of times. I try to avoid even using an ATM when with a chica. I can't even spell ATM.
Obviously computer password protected. Cell phone too. If you are going to let chicas use your computer, set up a Guest user, for Pete's sakes. Cameras are another item that must be closely controlled.
You don't really want them to know who you are regardless of whether they get pregnant or not. For all kinds of reasons. They don't have to be pregnant to blackmail you (although it certainly helps). I don't use fake ID but there is nothing lying around with my last name on it and my ID stays in my wallet, which stays in my pants, which stay in my sight.
All else with last name is in locked cabinet. All ATM/CC receipts are destroyed as soon as I see the transaction on the Net and meantime they stay in the wallet. It pisses me off that ATMs show your last name (and print your balance) a lot of times. I try to avoid even using an ATM when with a chica. I can't even spell ATM.
Obviously computer password protected. Cell phone too. If you are going to let chicas use your computer, set up a Guest user, for Pete's sakes. Cameras are another item that must be closely controlled.
I learned that the hard way on a recent monger trip. I had known a girl for about 2 years then we saw each other this time she let me cum inside her. I thought how nice was that until afterwards she corked her vagina with a towel .
I panicked and for the next few months I was on edge. She admitted she had a period which gave me mild relief but she still emails me. Her emails are creepy... " Hello I want you to know what a great person you are and how much you deserve a good life etc. etc. " I had to cut her off and be cruel. I dont like doing that to people.
It didn't hit me until the next morning when another monger *clued me in. All they need to find you is to get cool with the receptionist at your hotel or go to the embassy. There are certain womens groups in these countries that handle cases for free. They can easily idfentify you as "rick" the blond hair guy who was here around mid march about 42 years old etc. etc. The embassy has a list of who has entered the country. Even hiding your indentity is not full proof. I would also assume if she has any email address of yours she would be able to find you. Its hard not to let out *any information if you expect to get laid. Same deal if she goes to the embassy and tells her story. She can say I have an email address will this help. I assume you would be trackable at that point. Maybe she knows what restaurants you went to or the store you bought her a gift from. There are many ways to hustle.
I am not a security expert but I dont think it would be hard to find one of us.
Meantime I don't consider raw sex to be a gift anymore. I dont get off on screwing either. It does absolutely nothing for me unless a few variables are in place at the same time. I give up on fucking...instead I lick.
All this talk about fake IDs, condom failure, destroying ATM records, corking a pussy with a towel (wtf!). The hoops some of you guys jump through for some snatch! How about just getting a damn vasectomy?!? It seems like some guys are against this idea, maybe they feel they are less of a man or they want to have children "of their own" someday. However, getting cut is really the only way to be 100% sure you will never get a woman pregnant. If you're a hardcore monger, it seems to be a no-brainer to me.
Laugh if you want, but I've decided to get myself a vasectemy as my 30th birthday present next year. After coming back from two months in the Philippines, I've realized I need to have this procedure done if I plan on mongering for many years to come; I heard the phrase "I want baby!" from one too many bargirls there. You guys need to understand that for many women, having a baby is the equivalant of buying a winning lottery ticket at the local convenience store.
To be honest, I've never really liked children anyways, and even if I change my mind in the future, I can always adopt; it's not like there's a shortage of people on this planet!
Of couse, I wouldn't recommend this if you do want to have a family of your own someday, but if you've decided to be a lifelonger monger, how could you not get a vasectomy?
Pathetic.
No, what's pathetic is a poster with over 1,200 posts that has never posted a trip report or photos.
ThatGuy865
09-12-09, 02:32
I just saw on Fox News the results of a poll why American women have sex with their husbands. I took notes... Included on the list in no particular order were:
1) To keep a quiet home life
2) Out of boredom
3) To receive more gifts
4) To get the man to do chores
5) Out of sympathy
OMFG! Why do guys get married?
I thought the reasons were.
1) Enjoy sex too
2) Duty as a good mate
3) Need money
Ummmm if the guys were given a poll the answer would be:
1) Horny
Societies need to address this issue..... Armed with this knowledge.. why do guys get marriedI know you guys hate to hear this but ... some guys actually enjoy the company of their woman. So companionship is one reason you could say.
Raising/Having a family with someone you care about.
Having a person whom you can depend upon to take care of you when you are sick/down and like wise share those romantic moments/places where it means something to the both of you.
IMHO, impregnating a provider would be the least of your problems, if you resorted to wholesale sport fucking of providers bareback.
All this talk about fake IDs, condom failure, destroying ATM records, corking a pussy with a towel (wtf!). The hoops some of you guys jump through for some snatch! How about just getting a damn vasectomy?!? It seems like some guys are against this idea, maybe they feel they are less of a man or they want to have children "of their own" someday. However, getting cut is really the only way to be 100% sure you will never get a woman pregnant. If you're a hardcore monger, it seems to be a no-brainer to me.
Laugh if you want, but I've decided to get myself a vasectemy as my 30th birthday present next year. After coming back from two months in the Philippines, I've realized I need to have this procedure done if I plan on mongering for many years to come; I heard the phrase "I want baby!" from one too many bargirls there. You guys need to understand that for many women, having a baby is the equivalant of buying a winning lottery ticket at the local convenience store.
To be honest, I've never really liked children anyways, and even if I change my mind in the future, I can always adopt; it's not like there's a shortage of people on this planet!
Of couse, I wouldn't recommend this if you do want to have a family of your own someday, but if you've decided to be a lifelonger monger, how could you not get a vasectomy?
No, what's pathetic is a poster with over 1,200 posts that has never posted a trip report or photos.
ThatGuy865
09-12-09, 06:36
All this talk about fake IDs, condom failure, destroying ATM records, corking a pussy with a towel (wtf!). The hoops some of you guys jump through for some snatch! How about just getting a damn vasectomy?!? It seems like some guys are against this idea, maybe they feel they are less of a man or they want to have children "of their own" someday. However, getting cut is really the only way to be 100% sure you will never get a woman pregnant. If you're a hardcore monger, it seems to be a no-brainer to me.
Laugh if you want, but I've decided to get myself a vasectemy as my 30th birthday present next year. After coming back from two months in the Philippines, I've realized I need to have this procedure done if I plan on mongering for many years to come; I heard the phrase "I want baby!" from one too many bargirls there. You guys need to understand that for many women, having a baby is the equivalant of buying a winning lottery ticket at the local convenience store.
To be honest, I've never really liked children anyways, and even if I change my mind in the future, I can always adopt; it's not like there's a shortage of people on this planet!
Of couse, I wouldn't recommend this if you do want to have a family of your own someday, but if you've decided to be a lifelonger monger, how could you not get a vasectomy?Actually, you can have them reversed. I know someone who did they same as you are planning and when turned 40 he fell in love, got married, got it reversed and now has 2 kids. You have to find a good surgeon but they can definitely reverse them.
IMHO, impregnating a provider would be the least of your problems, if you resorted to wholesale sport fucking of providers bareback.
I see that you're the resident "safe sex" guy, and for good reason.
No, what's pathetic is a poster with over 1,200 posts that has never posted a trip report or photos.
Thanks for reading "Meat Loaf" posts! The trip report is valid, but I don't own a camera either.
Laugh if you want, but I've decided to get myself a vasectemy as my 30th birthday present next year.
I normally don't laugh at guys with "snipped nutts," but you prefaced it with "laugh if you want" which made me laugh. 30-years old: You're a "Woman's Liberation" dream.
I've realized I need to have this procedure done if I plan on mongering for many years to come; I heard the phrase "I want baby!" from one too many bargirls there. You guys need to understand that for many women, having a baby is the equivalant of buying a winning lottery ticket at the local convenience store.
To be honest, I've never really liked children anyways, and even if I change my mind in the future, I can always adopt; it's not like there's a shortage of people on this planet!
Of couse, I wouldn't recommend this if you do want to have a family of your own someday, but if you've decided to be a lifelonger monger, how could you not get a vasectomy?
You guys are more afraid / concerned about the girl getting pregnant that they are! It's their responsibility to or not get pregnant; and you only enter the picture at birth for financial compensation.
F*ck the noise, I don't worry about their contraceptive concerns. I do shoot loads and inject them with birth control too.
I panicked and for the next few months I was on edge. She admitted she had a period which gave me mild relief but she still emails me.
It didn't hit me until the next morning when another monger *clued me in. All they need to find you is to get cool with the receptionist at your hotel or go to the embassy. There are certain womens groups in these countries that handle cases for free. They can easily idfentify you as "rick" the blond hair guy who was here around mid march about 42 years old etc. etc. The embassy has a list of who has entered the country. Even hiding your indentity is not full proof. I would also assume if she has any email address of yours she would be able to find you. Its hard not to let out *any information if you expect to get laid. Same deal if she goes to the embassy and tells her story. She can say I have an email address will this help. I assume you would be trackable at that point. Maybe she knows what restaurants you went to or the store you bought her a gift from. There are many ways to hustle.
I am not a security expert but I dont think it would be hard to find one of us.
Meantime I don't consider raw sex to be a gift anymore. I dont get off on screwing either. It does absolutely nothing for me unless a few variables are in place at the same time. I give up on fucking...instead I lick.
We've all been there with the pregnancy scare!
Of course, it's not hard for them to find you / us, but is hard to find them- these liars and deceivers.
As for me I don't find sex with a condom to be enjoyable at all, and in fact shooting a load in the woman is half the fun. While I do prefer to do this in her ass, in the case of vaginal sex pregnancy is a danger, and I think anonymity is a good precaution.
Many thanks to Meat Loaf for the great ideas on maintaining a misleading identity!
I love shooting loads too! And the girls like it too! They don't care about getting pregnant and / or they are so eager to please the d*ck in their bed / car / park / etcetera that they don't care either.
A pretty a*shole when viewed doggy style is more inviting than snatch, agreed. A quick lick of the anus is received by her with glee. Some extra spit on the third eye. Massage it around. Slap her a*s with your hard d*ck. She'll be prepared mentally and know it coming. Slide that d*ck in there and bust a load into her a*shole!
Your welcome on the deceit practices: I operate 100% honest 'cause I don't have time or patience to tell lies and it doesn't matter anyway is she gets pregnant or attempts to extort or whatever she does / plots. I give b*tches my business card containing all of my contact information including website for permanent access. It doesn't matter anyway: We need more people on the planet and she needs a new toy. What's the cost to me? A few less beers per month.
I just saw on Fox News the results of a poll why American women have sex with their husbands. I took notes... Included on the list in no particular order were:
1) To keep a quiet home life
2) Out of boredom
3) To receive more gifts
4) To get the man to do chores
5) Out of sympathy
OMFG! Why do guys get married?
I thought the reasons were.
1) Enjoy sex too
2) Duty as a good mate
3) Need money
Ummmm if the guys were given a poll the answer would be:
1) Horny
Societies need to address this issue..... Armed with this knowledge.. why do guys get married
Hey Meat,
I've read your posts in Asia, I believe, and good stuff.
Good name: Double "Meat."
I guess you can call this kid a mother-fucker for real.
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2009/09/10/news/cops_and_courts/doc4aa8c692a1caa014526146.txt
I love shooting loads too! And the girls like it too! They don't care about getting pregnant and / or they are so eager to please the d*ck in their bed / car / park / etcetera that they don't care either.
It is great you are finding girls like this - I rarely do. I find that most prostitutes are not particularly 'eager to please', and while some older, marginally marketable ones acquiesce to bareback without any protest, it usually requires a lot of persuasion to get younger ones to do it - and they most definitely do not like it. But, in some cases they acquiesce - sometimes due to promises of more money, sometimes due to the pretense that one is going to walk out in disgust, sometimes just because one keeps on about it interminably. Its true in a few fortunate cases a young, attractive girl actually 'gets into' the sex and sort of forgets about the condom, but even in these cases they normally experience some pangs of regret/concern afterwards.
I find that most of the under-30 set here in Thailand definitely care a lot about getting pregnant, and insist that I pull out. I don't necessarily always do this, but my point is that everything is a struggle with these girls, and I only wish it were as easy as you describe.
Absolutely, no vale la pena! I know too many guys who have spent a single night with the wrong woman, and have had their whole lives turned completely upside down. For the sake of a condom, or yanking it out, it just ain't worth, IMHO, the absolute agony that I have seen in the past. The guy is at fault, no matter what under our insane North American court system, and he pays and pays until the blood runs dry.
As far as other parts of the world are concerned, I have always believed the condom protects the guy far more than the girl, hooker or not. We are over there, and if she bitches to the legal system, who the hell knows what can happen. Just ain't worth it.
It is great you are finding girls like this - I rarely do. I find that most prostitutes are not particularly 'eager to please', and while some older, marginally marketable ones acquiesce to bareback without any protest, it usually requires a lot of persuasion to get younger ones to do it - and they most definitely do not like it. But, in some cases they acquiesce - sometimes due to promises of more money, sometimes due to the pretense that one is going to walk out in disgust, sometimes just because one keeps on about it interminably. Its true in a few fortunate cases a young, attractive girl actually 'gets into' the sex and sort of forgets about the condom, but even in these cases they normally experience some pangs of regret/concern afterwards.
I find that most of the under-30 set here in Thailand definitely care a lot about getting pregnant, and insist that I pull out. I don't necessarily always do this, but my point is that everything is a struggle with these girls, and I only wish it were as easy as you describe.
They want a baby by me for (1) USA-enforced child support and / or (2) social pressure of financially supporting with (3) all of living in the same house and me paying all of the bills!
I tell girls that I'm going to get them pregnant and when I'm about to come I say, "Here it comes, our baby! I throw a few extra thrusts in there for show to symbolize that every drop of juice is deposited into their wombs!
This is my story worldwide! I'm Meat Loaf!
Absolutely, no vale la pena! I know too many guys who have spent a single night with the wrong woman, and have had their whole lives turned completely upside down. For the sake of a condom, or yanking it out, it just ain't worth, IMHO, the absolute agony that I have seen in the past. The guy is at fault, no matter what under our insane North American court system, and he pays and pays until the blood runs dry.
As far as other parts of the world are concerned, I have always believed the condom protects the guy far more than the girl, hooker or not. We are over there, and if she bitches to the legal system, who the hell knows what can happen. Just ain't worth it.
100% of nothing equals nothing!
I have dreams too! And then there is the reality.
Chocha Monger
09-15-09, 00:43
The guys were talking a bit about that last night when we did our
fantasy draft, I hadn't heard about it so really didn't know. How interesting, and so exactly true, any time one of these NAW 'hoes think they have a chance to win the lottery, boom, look out below.
Guys,
Don't trust a hoe! Never trust a hoe! Won't trust a hoe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXzvnkIdWqw
DJ FourMoney
09-15-09, 07:04
100% of nothing equals nothing!
I have dreams too! And then there is the reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuaG-TCpbtw
ThatGuy865
09-16-09, 01:40
Here goes something you young guys might want to check out.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruises/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=68499038.blog
Here goes something you young guys might want to check out.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruises/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=68499038.blogNo thanks. As people from my country say "I did not find my dick in a midden".
Those "cougar" byotches should have fucked more when they were twice younger.
Now I live with a 26 y. O.(I'm 30+) and she's too old for me. Can't wait going back to Colombia and Brazil. What's funny she knows that I go there, but she can't do anything about it. That's why I let her stay with me and clean the house. She thinks it's gonna make me fall in love with her or something.
Bango Cheito
09-16-09, 21:12
I think I'd stick with the swingers cruise.
I have no problem with older women, I got an "amiga con derechas" who's older than I am, but she's actually TAKEN CARE OF HERSELF over the years. North American women tend to age really really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poorly.
I also find that here in Colombia i have to look mainly at women at least 10 years younger than me to find somebody as open minded as I am, meaning open relationships/swinging, S&M, kinky sex etc. Fortunately the average 25 year old or even 20 year old here has a lot more between his or her ears than their N. American counterpart.
this pisses me off. some "b" accuses 5 guys of gang [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her and they put them in jail just like that. she then recants her story and today's news tells how happy the guys are to get out of jail. one student on campus said an apology is certainly in order but didn't think any crime was commited.
as far as i know she was suspended...that's all. scary shit!
not to mention the other day i was side swiped while walking on the street. an animal with a cell phone glued to her ear proceeded to mow me over. i yelled out in my best ny accent " yo cell phone!" she turns around and says "fuck you asshole"...so on went the exchange of compliments until she started hitting on me and grabbing my arm. what was i to do in the middle of 34th street/ macy's ? i did nothing but stand there and give her more compliments. she asked me if i wanted to get punched in the face. i said "yes" and i waited for her to do so but nothing happened. finally a bull dyke came to her rescue and the males surrounding me were just waiting to rush to a womens rescue. i walked.
i should have knocked the cell phone out of her hand and walked away but i didn't think of it.
i guess i was just in the wrong place at the wrong time...oh well my fault.
new york (cbs) ―
the student who alleged she was gang raped by five men inside a hofstra university dormitory bathroom on sunday has admitted to making the entire story up, the nassau county district attorney's office confirmed on wednesday night.
how often does this sort of bs have to happen before people wise up
to the reality of what is going on out there?
...the males surrounding me were just waiting to rush to a womens rescue.
This is the heart of the entire problem - men competing with each other. If you ever read the excellent social theories posted on this forum by That Asshole you will know to what I'm referring.
Chocha Monger
09-17-09, 22:00
This is the heart of the entire problem - men competing with each other. If you ever read the excellent social theories posted on this forum by That Asshole you will know to what I'm referring.
That Asshole has some revolutionary social dogma based on the brotherhood of man, but the problem is that we are all socialized to be competitive from early childhood. Even on this forum you will find mongers who still believe in the exclusivity of sexual access to women. The fact that we still have marrying mongers shows that most men still believe in staking out their own little piece of pussy and defending it with violence against all comers if need be. The concept of community pussy was quickly rejected after the 1960's when American women realized that it was probably the greatest threat to their power.
If pussy was freely shared it would destroy our current constructs of society based on lineage and inheritance. Child rearing would become truly a community affair. Men would no longer compete with women for jobs. Society would be much less violent too. Appearances would matter less and substance would weigh more in everyday decisions.
ThatGuy865
09-18-09, 02:09
The concept of community pussy was quickly rejected after the 1960's when American women realized that it was probably the greatest threat to their power.
If pussy was freely shared it would destroy our current constructs of society based on lineage and inheritance. Child rearing would become truly a community affair. Men would no longer compete with women for jobs. Society would be much less violent too. Appearances would matter less and substance would weigh more in everyday decisions.I think AIDS had more to do with the limitations on the free love concept than anything. Before that condoms were marginally used at best. One night stands were quite common. Once AIDS hit and then Herpes. Casual sex took a big hit.
This is the heart of the entire problem - men competing with each other. If you ever read the excellent social theories posted on this forum by That Asshole you will know to what I'm referring.
I'd love to read those theories. If you can dig those up let us know.
I still don't know how to use the search function properly.
* The sad part about the guys were they didn't know what they were getting involved in. They were willing to blindly get involved for mere chivalry.
Translation : They wanted a pat on the back and reassurance from the opposite sex. This would be like a guy feeding on a womans low self estem. It's all been mapped out for you but people still fall for it.
Last night I was watching a TV show called "48 hours". It's basically a cop show that investigates murders. This show a girlfriend asked a boyfriend to get rid of an ex boyfriend. Guess what...? He kills him and winds up in jail for life.
Women do some twisted shit for pleasue. A friend is worth alot more than pussy. Unless I am married I consider whomever I am with to be available. Even if I am fucking her. Guys kicking each other's ass over pussy is worth less and nothing more than entertainment.
Choncha Monger :
I think you meant to say after the 70's!
Chocha Monger
09-18-09, 05:42
Dear gentlemen,
What is exactly "prostitution"? Let's clarify first what we are talking about. I can assure you that prostitution is legal in all states and in every country in the world. It is just called by different names. Eg: marriage, girlfriend, skimpy secretary, flirting for promotion, crying for sympathy, etc.
All culminates in exerting control over men by twisting their dicks. What is unlawful is undercutting the high price of fuck. Selling it cheap, for mere cash and destroying the whole system of domination and control.
The arabs at least realize this and make the fuckers dress up to lessen their influence. To make them at least "equal" to men. Not hard to comprehend that seeing a black covered shapeless object will twist your dick much less than a bare ass secretary or classmate.
So gentlemen, it is easy to discuss anything but it will have no meaning unless we actually define what the terms we use really mean.
Best f-ing wishes, TA
Pisanulok, Thailand 2008 report (Confidential. For sextourists only!)
1. Introduction
- "Everibody wants to fuck me! They all want to see my tits. They wanna smell my hole. They all wanna poke in my panties. I am the center of the world. I must be god or something. They do everything I tell them to do. They even kill each other if I want them to. Men are just dickheads." - women talking, women thinking.
This is what we made them. This unwholesome monster, totally obsessed with her own importance. I suppose this little report will somewhat dent their overinflated self-esteem. This is about how to fuck them cheap. This is about finding them and seeing them in extremely low status, hardly more than a "fuck-object". It's all available for anyone. See it all for yourself in Pisanulok, Thailand. We can make the rest of the world follow course.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=723627&postcount=1023
Khorat (Nakonra-Chazima) Thailand 2008 (Confidential! For Sex-Tourist Only!)
1. General
Located 260 kms NE from Bangkok, the large Thai city of Khorat has a lot to offer to the noble cause of sex-tourism. Often called the "gateway to Isaan region", indeed this is the place where real nice and friendly people start to appear, like the many more you will meet all over Isaan. Khorat is a major Thai city with all the conveniences of good value accomodation, modern shopping malls and good sex-scene.
This last point is the subject of this report. As you may already have realized, sex-tourism is good for our World. In that it liberates men from the suffocating oppression by women. We don't need to be slaves to them any more but instead simply purchase them for the purpose of one single copulation. Then simply recycle them for use by the next ugly, deprived degenerate man like us. Ever working tirelessly for the worthy cause of "mens liberation". And making peace for the World. No fighting, no wars, ever. Just happy sharing. This is indeed "Love."
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http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=695558&postcount=986
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=840056&postcount=372
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=778535&postcount=1055
Nominated by Editor as report of distinction:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=758803&postcount=1053
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=746648&postcount=278
Blonde Backpacker and Oprah:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=733358&postcount=19
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=731447&postcount=413
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730612&postcount=1030
Sex is illegal:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=736869&postcount=1034
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=712742&postcount=1009
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=703854&postcount=143
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=703047&postcount=1002
Silky Cat Story:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701025&postcount=1001
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=698717&postcount=873
Thanks for the excellent selection Cocha Monger - I also still don't fully understand the search function. Do you remember before he was That Asshole he was 'Humble Turd'? I wonder if there are any posts on here by that name or he just changed his name.
I wish he were still with us on the forum.
Chocha Monger
09-18-09, 16:00
Thanks for the excellent selection Cocha Monger - I also still don't fully understand the search function. Do you remember before he was That Asshole he was 'Humble Turd'? I wonder if there are any posts on here by that name or he just changed his name.
I wish he were still with us on the forum.
When Humble Turd "died" all of his posts, including the old ones, appeared under the reincarnation of That Asshole.
When Humble Turd "died" all of his posts, including the old ones, appeared under the reincarnation of That Asshole.
Yes. Thank you for digging those up.
Sorry, but unfortunately only the first link in that post works - the one to Korat. All the others don't work.
Chocha Monger
09-18-09, 21:13
Sorry, but unfortunately only the first link in that post works - the one to Korat. All the others don't work.
I edited the post they all work now.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=840056&postcount=372
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=778535&postcount=1055
Nominated by Editor as report of distinction:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=758803&postcount=1053
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=746648&postcount=278
Blonde Backpacker and Oprah:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=733358&postcount=19
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=731447&postcount=413
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730612&postcount=1030
Sex is illegal:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=736869&postcount=1034
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=712742&postcount=1009
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=703854&postcount=143
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=703047&postcount=1002
Silky Cat Story:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701025&postcount=1001
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=698717&postcount=873
new york (cbs) ―
the student who alleged she was gang raped by five men inside a hofstra university dormitory bathroom on sunday has admitted to making the entire story up, the nassau county district attorney's office confirmed on wednesday night.
how often does this sort of bs have to happen before people wise up
to the reality of what is going on out there?
and that case of "falsification of a police report" will not be indicted against the female. she remains anonymous in the entire affair.
the male student arrested must pursue expungement of the arrest and that may not be easy based upon state law and prior / post acts.
in many states, the victim (ie. female) remains anonymous until trial.
arrest; indictment; trial; conviction: sentence: re-patriation.
and to think that the remaining step processes of criminal procedures are moot when such an arrest (ie. detainment; investigation) is launched.
Chocha Monger
09-19-09, 05:44
Have you guys been following the news about the Yale strangler, Raymond Clark? The male psychologists theorize that he may have snapped over work related issues with the girl. The female psychologists theorize that he snapped because she wouldn't fuck him. Then the females go on to paint this picture of this guy lurking from afar fantasizing, stroking and lusting after this tiny Asian girl. One female psychologist even tarred all American men with the same brush saying they want little Asian women because they're easier to handle than American women. She obviously hasn't met Korean women. It just goes to show that even female "professionals" believe in the "everybody wants to fuck me and kill me if they can't" ideology common among AW. She even used a fat beer bellied middle aged American man lusting after a 25 yr old college girl in a bar as an analogy.
She would probably have a stroke if she visited Thailand or the Philippines and saw old Mr. Beer Belly rooting all those hot young chicks that she believes are above his level for a pittance.
Have you guys been following the news about the Yale strangler, Raymond Clark? The male psychologists theorize that he may have snapped over work related issues with the girl. The female psychologists theorize that he snapped because she wouldn't fuck him. Then the females go on to paint this picture of this guy lurking from afar fantasizing, stroking and lusting after this tiny Asian girl. One female psychologist even tarred all American men with the same brush saying they want little Asian women because they're easier to handle than American women. She obviously hasn't met Korean women. It just goes to show that even female "professionals" believe in the "everybody wants to fuck me and kill me if they can't" ideology common among AW. She even used a fat beer bellied middle aged American man lusting after a 25 yr old college girl in a bar as an analogy.
She would probably have a stroke if she visited Thailand or the Philippines and saw old Mr. Beer Belly rooting all those hot young chicks that she believes are above his level for a pittance.
CM this guy had some issues whether they were sex related or not. This woman was the epitome of what America has to offer. She was young cute, a PHD student. This guy had nothing. He cleaned the damn mouse cages. So she wasn’t just some broad. I don’t know why he did this but I hope this is not starting to become a disturbing trend (remember the gym dude) in the States the lone psycho taking out his rage on women.
yeah, but i am well aware of feminist psychologists who make everything into a feminist "problem" or alleged injustice that must be exposed and corrected. feminist "scholars" make careers by studying and "researching" this bs. cm, the feminist psychologist was also insulting all asian women with that same brush.
yeah, the old "every man wants to fuck me and will kill me if he can't" line. i was finally wise to the bullshit of a woman friend of mine. her life was one long pathetic train wreck, a total loser who i felt sorry for, eventually i realized she used people up until they were onto her and than they would cast her out. she yammered on and on about the men who have victimized her, but i learned later through other sources and my own observations that she is the victimizer! doesn't pay debts, is a congenital liar, many divorces, spreads defamatory libel about anyone who is on to her bs, is going through her second bankruptcy. when i cut her off she said i did so because she wouldn't go out with me! wtf?! talk about delusions of grandeur!
yeah the hofstra fake [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case. reminds me of those poor guys on the duke lacrosse team about three years ago. arrested, booked, suspended from school, had to hire expensive lawyers, all to defend against a damn hoax. i don't remember for sure, but don't recall any criminal charges against the woman for making a false police report, which is in fact a crime.
Chocha Monger
09-19-09, 07:33
CM this guy had some issues whether they were sex related or not. This woman was the epitome of what America has to offer. She was young cute, a PHD student. This guy had nothing. He cleaned the damn mouse cages. So she wasn’t just some broad. I don’t know why he did this but I hope this is not starting to become a disturbing trend (remember the gym dude) in the States the lone psycho taking out his rage on women.
Exactly, the Yale strangler had some issues and we do not know whether they were sexual or not but the female pundits in the media are stating that it was a case of a man wanting a woman that he could not get. At this point for all we know he could have just cleaned up one rat turd too many and broke. The dead girl was not the only student he had issues with. Interestingly, the guy was a star athlete in high school not a nerdy shy Boston strangler waiting to bloom. But I do understand that presenting it that way is more sensational and will get more ratings for the news channels.
I don't know if it's a trend but more women are working and in college today than before. Just based on probability women are having more contact with unrelated males so that would probably increase the chance of violence occurring between males and females. Guys beat and kill each other on the job all the time. I actually had to get between guys to end fights. In those cases usually both parties were terminated. If only one was let go there was a good chance he'd be back with or without help to even the score. Not a good risk for the co-workers in the area.
ThatGuy865
09-19-09, 12:46
CM this guy had some issues whether they were sex related or not. This woman was the epitome of what America has to offer. She was young cute, a PHD student. This guy had nothing. He cleaned the damn mouse cages. So she wasn't just some broad. I don't know why he did this but I hope this is not starting to become a disturbing trend (remember the gym dude) in the States the lone psycho taking out his rage on women.Its not only those. Don't forget at Virginia Tech. That korean guy was rejected by girls. Drove him over the edge.
Man lack of pussy will drive a man crazy. Especially if you think everyone else is getting some and you're the only one who isn't.
http://www.asian-sirens.com/blog/comments.php?id=2058_0_1_0_C
Here is an interesting discussion about violence against women that references the Yale incident and others.
Interesting how violence against women is such a cause celebre and the pet go-to for feminists and male politicians who wish to pander to them. Any incident seems to dominate media coverage. But violence against men? Not so much. Sexual violence against men in prison is treated as a humorous subject. Getting hit in the balls is a comic go-to in movies. The fact that all young US males must register for the draft in order to be cannon fodder for our next oil war, that also doesn't count as violence against men. Look at the 25 most dangerous jobs and you'll see that they are male-dominated, as they are supporting their familes...once again, not classified as violence against men. My feminist mom started going off about the old Chinese tradition of foot-binding and how cruel it was, and I mentioned all of the above. She looked at me as if I were the anti-Christ.
Bango Cheito
09-19-09, 20:18
I'm not positive on the competition thing.
I think on the one hand, competition is absolutely necessary for our continued evolution. If sex were THAT readily available to the extent that every last loser could engage in it frequently, we would be breeding ourselves literally stupider and stupider every generation.
However, there has to be a balance. I think in most societies today, sex is just too hard to work for in many cases.
I think the ideal mentality for women to have should be one where they freely experiment with lots of guys, but ONLY engage in potentially reproductive behavior with the best of them. This to me would be the best of both worlds.
Bango Cheito
09-19-09, 20:32
To Yogin, yeah there are MANY people like that all over the world, no shortage of that kind of behavior. Women who have psychological issues have a very strong tendency to become incredibly greedy and vampiristic without even so much as being aware of it. Both my wives have been that way, it's a really insidious thing and TBH I wasn't even aware it was happening until I got out and got the benefit of hindsight.
Chocha Monger
09-19-09, 23:08
I'm not positive on the competition thing.
I think on the one hand, competition is absolutely necessary for our continued evolution. If sex were THAT readily available to the extent that every last loser could engage in it frequently, we would be breeding ourselves literally stupider and stupider every generation.
However, there has to be a balance. I think in most societies today, sex is just too hard to work for in many cases.
I think the ideal mentality for women to have should be one where they freely experiment with lots of guys, but ONLY engage in potentially reproductive behavior with the best of them. This to me would be the best of both worlds.
Eugenics on a monger forum? The basic principle of mongering is wide and equal access for all men to sex. The goal of mongering is sexual satisfaction not sexual reproduction. Sexual reproduction is generally seen as undesirable among mongers except for a few whose primary goal is to impregnate as many women abroad as possible. These individuals are not true mongers they simply use the activity to cover their true agenda of propagation.
As for breeding ourselves stupider each generation, you will notice that it is the poor who tend to breed indiscriminately. The rich tend to inbreed. Let's not forget the DuPonts who kept their sperm and money in the family. Many offspring from this inbreeding ended up with terrible traits like physical malformations and mental insanity. They literally ran their bloodline into the ground.
We know precious little about which genes are responsible for what and how they work in the presence or absence of other genes. We certainly don't know enough to institute breeding programs for desired traits in humans. People born from less than desirable backgrounds often go on to achieve great thing in spite of obstacles. Also, dominant males tend to mate more often and with more females than non-dominant males. So following your reasoning the human race should become increasingly violent and competitive with each successive generation.
cm this guy had some issues whether they were sex related or not. this woman was the epitome of what america has to offer. she was young cute, a phd student. this guy had nothing. he cleaned the damn mouse cages. so she wasn’t just some broad. i don’t know why he did this but i hope this is not starting to become a disturbing trend (remember the gym dude) in the states the lone psycho taking out his rage on women.
two things cause crime - the main thing, obviously, is privilege. if there is a privileged class, there must be an exploited class, and sometimes they thrash around under the boot-heel a bit - this is 'crime', typically economic crime. to solve this type of crime would require socialism (a solution unlikely to ever be implemented in the bad place).
the other type of crime is as you say, killing and/or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) caused by male sexual frustration. the kind of crime can be easily solved by legalizing prostitution. if there were $100/hour brothels in every american city and town, the rate of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and sexual murder would plummet.
ThatGuy865
09-21-09, 00:24
the other type of crime is as you say, killing and/or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) caused by male sexual frustration. the kind of crime can be easily solved by legalizing prostitution. if there were $100/hour brothels in every american city and town, the rate of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and sexual murder would plummet.if your theory was true was are there still killings and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) in countries which have legalize prostitution or what one might call decriminalized prostitution.
killing often has little to do with sex as much as it does economic situations. colombia has had bordello every where in that country since its begininng, but yet it was one of the most violent countries in the world at one time.
most crime professionals will tell you [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) has little to do with sexual frustration but more to do with power and control. the perpertrator wanting to show their power and control over the individual thru sex. also why is rhode islands [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) numbers significantly lower than states which are the same size. its legal in rhode island for a woman to sell sex as long as its indoors.
two things cause crime - the main thing, obviously, is privilege. if there is a privileged class, there must be an exploited class, and sometimes they thrash around under the boot-heel a bit - this is 'crime', typically economic crime. to solve this type of crime would require socialism (a solution unlikely to ever be implemented in the bad place).
the other type of crime is as you say, killing and/or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) caused by male sexual frustration. the kind of crime can be easily solved by legalizing prostitution. if there were $100/hour brothels in every american city and town, the rate of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and sexual murder would plummet.
in my adopted country (philippines) where women have been offered to me (which i reported here) for $40 at the local 7-11 by street pimps [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is very prominent. in the philippines women can be found for as low 500php or $10.63. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) perpetrators have mental disorders i don’t care how sexually frustrated you are there is no excuse.
ps: thailand, one of the easiest places on earth to get pussy and look where it is on the list. eye opening now isn’t it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/rape_in_the_philippines
statistics:
statistics on the incidence of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) are usually based on available police records. more often, these are inaccurate and not a true representation of the problem, for cultural and social stigmatisation associated with [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) act as significant barriers to women reporting [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). furthermore, women are more likely not to report [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) if there is little support from their families, law enforcement agencies and the health sector.
in the philippines, the asian women's resource exchange (aworc), an internet-based women's information service, reports that 794 [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) occurred in the philippines in the first four months of 1997. [3] during the first semester of 1999 alone, there were 2,393 children who fell prey to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), attempted [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128), acts of lasciviousness and prostitution. [4]
as of 2006, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) continued to be a problem, with most cases going unreported. during the year, the pnp reported 685 [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases there were reports of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and sexual abuse of women in police or protective custody—often women from marginalized groups, such as suspected prostitutes, drug users, and lower income individuals arrested for minor crimes. [5]. the situation continued in 2007, with the number of reported [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases increasing to 879.[6]
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-[CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124)
crime statistics > [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) (most recent) by country
view data: totals per capita
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showing latest available data. rank countries amount
# 1 united states: 95,136
# 2 south africa: 52,425
# 3 canada: 24,350
# 4 australia: 15,630
# 5 india: 15,468
# 6 mexico: 14,373
# 7 united kingdom: 13,395
# 8 germany: 8,615
# 9 france: 8,458
# 10 russia: 6,978
# 11 korea, south: 6,139
# 12 peru: 5,968
# 13 spain: 5,664
# 14 zimbabwe: 5,567
# 15 thailand: 4,020
# 16 argentina: 3,036
# 17 venezuela: 2,931
# 18 italy: 2,543
# 19 belgium: 2,436
# 20 japan: 2,357
# 21 poland: 2,345
# 22 sweden: 2,184
# 23 colombia: 1,861
# 24 netherlands: 1,801
# 25 chile: 1,402
# 26 indonesia: 1,372
# 27 jamaica: 1,304
# 28 papua new guinea: 1,295
# 29 turkey: 1,260
# 30 romania: 1,253
# 31 malaysia: 1,210
# 32 sri lanka: 1,202
# 33 ukraine: 1,151
# 34 new zealand: 1,059
# 35 morocco: 1,015
# 36 bolivia: 928
# 37 belarus: 853
# 38 el salvador: 842
# 39 czech republic: 653
# 40 costa rica: 633
# 41 austria: 625
# 42 hungary: 598
# 43 bulgaria: 593
# 44 norway: 555
# 45 finland: 551
# 46 denmark: 500
# 47 switzerland: 484
# 48 portugal: 433
# 49 kyrgyzstan: 321
# 50 tunisia: 306
# 51 uruguay: 303
# 52 zambia: 300
# 53 namibia: 286
# 54 burma: 223
# 55 ireland: 218
# 56 panama: 212
# 57 moldova: 204
# 58 lithuania: 188
# 59 slovakia: 171
# 60 croatia: 165
# 61 nepal: 158
# 62 oman: 115
# 63 greece: 114
# 64 latvia: 106
# 65 hong kong: 104
# 66 slovenia: 98
# 67 yemen: 80
# 68 iceland: 74
# 69 estonia: 73
# 70 seychelles: 64
# 71 saudi arabia: 59
# 72 georgia: 47
# 73 albania: 45
= 74 luxembourg: 39
= 74 azerbaijan: 39
# 76 armenia: 28
= 77 mauritius: 27
= 77 macedonia, the former yugoslav republic of: 27
# 79 dominica: 24
# 80 cyprus: 13
# 81 qatar: 12
# 82 montserrat: 7
# 83 malta: 5
# 84 maldives: 2
total: 329,708
weighted average: 3,925.1
Chocha Monger
09-21-09, 07:40
interesting statistics, there seems to be a whole lot of [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) going on in sweden which has the highest number of radical feminists per capita. in sweden women are not just considered equal to men they're considered more equal than men. on dates couples split the check with no hard feelings unlike america where the man is expected to pick up the entire bill. so there is no feeling that the woman should put out. yet the swedes are [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) up a storm and they aren't considered violent people by far. even accounting for the high incidence of immigrant muslim men [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) swedish women it's still a high number. one wouldn't expect such high numbers in a country with an extremely powerful women's rights movement.
Thanks for posting that list Warbucks. Interesting that Brasil is not on that list.
In my adopted country (Philippines) where women have been offered to me (which I reported here) for $40 at the local 7-11 by street pimps...
$40?! Why so expensive? Heck its about that price on the street back in St. Louis.
...Sweden ...One wouldn't expect such high numbers in a country with an extremely powerful women's rights movement.
Perhaps it is an issue of 'reporting', imagination, or other low standards of proof.
two things cause crime - the main thing, obviously, is privilege. if there is a privileged class, there must be an exploited class, and sometimes they thrash around under the boot-heel a bit - this is 'crime', typically economic crime. to solve this type of crime would require socialism (a solution unlikely to ever be implemented in the bad place).
the other type of crime is as you say, killing and/or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) caused by male sexual frustration. the kind of crime can be easily solved by legalizing prostitution. if there were $100/hour brothels in every american city and town, the rate of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and sexual murder would plummet.if you want to propose a theory please do it right and demonstrate your research findings and counter-evidence that is scrutinized and verified by other published experts who dedicate a major portion of their lives in search of truth, friend. :)
thanks for posting that list warbucks. interesting that brasil is not on that list.sprite, in brazil [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is probably almost non existent, because for a girl in brazil a fuck(including completa) is the same as taking a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or a shit with a passion.
while in the land of the free - even a look or staying to close to a girl can be considered a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or assault, therefore usa is #1 on the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) list.
95,136 us divided by 4,020 thailand = 23.67
now let's look at the relative populations (from the 2006 edition of the economist's "pocket world in figures"):
us 294 million, thailand 62.8 million. ratio is 4.68. so what this means is that the yew ess has 5.06 times* as many reported [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) per capita as does thailand.
* 23.67 divided by 4.68
ummmm i don't think those are per capita numbers. and, since they aren't, they are worthless.you're right, it was totals. in per capita usa is #9
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-[CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124)-per-capita
it's interesting, only 2 african countries, australia, some islands and canada are ahead of usa in [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125).. and some of the most "violent and dangerous" countries such as russia and colombia are #40+
# 1 south africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
# 2 seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
# 3 australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
# 4 montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people
# 5 canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people
# 6 jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people
# 7 zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people
# 8 dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people
# 9 united states: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
# 10 iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people
thanks for posting that list warbucks. interesting that brasil is not on that list.
interesting is not the word i'd use.
according to the world health organization, approximately 41% of the women in brasil have suffered physical or sexual violence at some point during their lives (> 15 years of age).
it's a well-known fact that brasil has one of the highest rate of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)/sexual violence/violence towards women in the world. those nationmaster statistics are bs.
If you want to propose a theory please do it right and demonstrate your research findings and counter-evidence that is scrutinized and verified by other published experts who dedicate a major portion of their lives in search of truth
No, I don't think I'll take your recommendation, D Cups. My way is much better.
Or, if you were joking, good one.
not buying into that report.
in feminist-dominated societies, the definition of "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" has absurdly expanded to the point that now, if a woman went on a date, had a little too much to drink, and regrets three months later how far she went or he inexplicably stopped calling and she's angry about that, she goes to some "womyn's center" support group, learns she was in fact "raped" and goes to the police.
and the other extreme: in east asia, africa, most arab countries, police and the court system couldn't care less about [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). and families would not support the woman they would ostrasize her, even disown her.
nope, ain't buying it.
Chocha Monger
09-21-09, 19:18
not buying into that report.
in feminist-dominated societies, the definition of "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" has absurdly expanded to the point that now, if a woman went on a date, had a little too much to drink, and regrets three months later how far she went, she goes to some "womyn's center" support group, learns she was in fact "raped" and goes to the police.
that definition pretty much covers [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) in the us and sweden. if a woman doesn't protest before or during sex but later regrets it can be considered [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). it's like paying bar fine for a really bad lay, regretting it then filing a report alleging robbery. "recovered memories" are also used to determine that a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) occurred decades ago. now if you can't remember something is it a memory?
part of the reason i gave up on western women was the shocking pillow talk. let me be clear here that i am talking about "normal" women. i had one woman tell me stories about getting fingered by her mother's cuban neighbor when she wash 12 yrs old. she claimed she didn't know it was wrong and actually sought out the molester every time he visited to sit in his lap for more of the fingering. she never told her mother until she was in late twenties.
yet another woman told me stories about her parents having drunken orgies at their house. she was just a toddler and would wander among the copulating bodies. she claimed that her father and uncle raped her at 6 yrs of age. then the neighborhood boys gangbanged her at 10 yrs of age. she later got raped by a boyfriend then by a random stranger on the street as a young woman. she received disability payments because she claimed that all these [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) affected her ability to work. strangely enough she often stayed at her father's house.
Gentleman Travel
09-21-09, 21:42
Came across this interesting article re-confirming what has been obvious for years - female enrollment at university is vastly outstripping male enrollment, with a 12%-20% gap in enrollment levels. But expressed another way, with 60% women vs. 40% men, there are actually 50% more women than men at many universities.
www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2014098
"For more than a decade, universities have been puzzling over where the boys are as the ratio of female to male students keeps climbing.
About 56% of Canadian undergraduates in 2006 were women, according to the Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada, a significant change from the early 1970s, when more than two-thirds of university graduates in their mid-20s were men."
...
"The shifting male-to-female ratio has all kinds of ramifications on a societal level. Women with degrees want to marry men who have degrees. With more women than men in university, demand is clearly outstripping supply."
Leaving aside the whole equity/affirmative action debate, there are huge implications in this trend for guys getting laid at university. When I went through Engineering, so many years ago, there were very few women in my classes and even political science and economics classes were maybe equal numbers. But over all, there were not enough women in the pool for dating purposes. So women were in the driver's seat and still are, in many ways.
But on campus today the odds are different and surely these outnumbered guys are going to find it much, much easier to get laid or date as much as they want - so my son will have a much easier time than I did!
Even more important is the long-term implication for marriage or long-term relationships. As the quote above indicates, educated women are going to want educated men (and probably higher-earning) for mating purposes. This will put the shoe on the other foot. An educated professional man will be highly sought after - without having to be an Adonis as well. This is much like the situation in Russia, where the sex imbalance opens up vast opportunities for older guys with a decent job and a good suit, with young beautiful women he has NEVER been able to date at home.
Men have always been prepared to "date-down" that is to date and marry women with lower education, social status and income, but that is (or has been) very different for women. And I don't think it means women are greedy or mercenary, it is just the pattern that has existed for centuries and will not change overnight. Being in a relationship with the woman earning more, being more educated and coming from a higher social group would still be awkward for most men and women, I should think. Maybe that will change.
Of course, for those men who do not go to university and are competing with everyone else for non-university women, well you are going to be screwed!
the idea that canada has 60% more [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) on a percapita basis than zimbabwe is an absolute joke. forget statistics, simply on a common sense basis, can one really compare canada to zimbabwe on any kind of reasonable economic or social basis? as yogin so adroitly put it, '[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)' has been expanded to almost the point that if you look the wrong way at a woman, you can be almost charged with stalking or 'visual [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)'. as a matter of law, a husband could not legally [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) his wife in canada, i believe that law was changed some years ago, that alone would account for a percentage of any increase.
i would be curious to hear whether a woman would feel safer in toronto or harare, by that statistic she is 60% more safer in harare. yeah, right!
Bango Cheito
09-21-09, 22:13
i have lived in canada the us and now colombia. those [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) statistics do not surprise me one bit. and yes, the legalized prostitution definitely has something to do with. no doubt in my mind.
you are a lot more likely to get mugged or get your pocket picked here than just about anywhere in n. america but as a woman you are also a lot less likely to get raped.
remember, 90% of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) victims know the perpetrators intimately, no matter where on the globe you are.
it doesn't matter one bit what people "feel", people's "feelings" about crime are about as inaccurate and stupid as one can get! canadians especially have this attitude that they don't suffer from the same kinds of social problems as the whole rest of earth...
true, canadians believe they are in some kind of utopia.
when i worked in retail, i was written up for "sexual harrassment" by a complaint to my boss from an anonymous customer. of course i couldn't confront my accuser. she claimed i gave her a "knowing look". wtf is that?! surprised she didn't try to sue me and the business.
same goes for sex discrimination in the us. if you are accused you are good as guilty. i know a professor who had a personality conflict with a female professor over whom he had no power, they were equal peers. she chose to make it a "gender" issue, brought in the school gender police/prosecutor who went on a witch hunt, accusing the poor guy of sex discrimination. total bs. they just didn't like each other, simple as that.
two 13-year-olds in oregon were brought up on sexual assault charges as adults by a female prosecutor (who has since been convicted of assaulting her husband). because of national outcry and massive influx of donations to fund their defense, the charges were eventually dropped. the "crime"? participating in "ass-slapping day" at school (they weren't the only ones). had they been convicted, they would have had to register for the rest of their lives in their local community as "sex offenders".
now there is an overly hyped trend of "sexting", teenagers sending messages via cell phone of nude shots of themselves. now they are prosecuting the kids who receive the message for child pornography!
yeah..."sex crimes"...rewriting the definition on that daily.
ah, innumeracy. what's one to do? if there were 60% more [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) in toronto then a woman would be 37.5% safer in harare, not 60% safer. example: 160 [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) in toronto and 100 in harare. 100 is 62.5% of 160 so there are (100%-62.5%) = 37.5% fewer [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124). similarly if you lose 20% of your investment portfolio one year, and the next year it gains 20%, you are not right back where you started from.
the lower the illiteracy rate gets in the world, the higher the innumeracy rate gets, it seems like. if x is y% greater than z, it is not the case that z is y% less than x.
Canadians believe they live in utopia?
Some of our elite, chattering, and freeloader classes may belive that.
Or perhaps it is true, and things have changed radically in the Peoples Republic of Canada overnight.
Let me check.
Nope. Same shit, same country, another day.
LE
true, canadians believe they are in some kind of utopia.
well, let me tell you that it does look rather utopian there when viewed from the savage land to your south. you realize in the bad place we practice the most brutal forms of social darwinism?
regarding [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) - i like to ignore statistics and go by anecdote and 'common knowledge'. after all people are talking about different things in different societies when they say '[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)'. as choca monger mentions many western women's heads are filled with the most ridiculous lies and fantasies about sexual exposure their youth.
Gentleman Travel
09-22-09, 15:14
Canadians believe they live in utopia?
Well, I don't know if that is true, but Canada does have some advantages in areas of interest to people on ISG.
Prostitution is not illegal, same as in most European countries. Various associated activities (soliciting, living off avails, keeping a bawdy house) are illegal, but escorts and internet girls can operate safely and without much fear of prosecution/persecution (streetwalkers are "soliciting", so they and their clients are vulnerable, but frankly I haven't seen a streetwalker in years). Obviously that is the way things usually work in the US as well, but occasionally LE runs a sting operation or otherwise sweeps up a bunch of luckless "johns" or "Eliots" as the case may be, which becomes a bit of a career-limiting move for some.
Strip clubs are generally better, especially in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. (My basis of comparison in the US is limited to a few states - perhaps some are much wilder) The girls are pretty good looking, stripping is complete, lots of contact and sometimes extras in the dark corners of certain clubs. We used to have an fast-track immigration program for "exotic dancers" which ensured a large supply of gorgeous Eastern European strippers (and hookers). Alas, regretfully that program has now been shut down, but hopefully the economic crisis has encouraged more French girls to turn to the trades that their elder sisters used to excell at.
Last time I went to a strip club in DC guys were going crazy stuffing dollar bills into the girl's G-string, with no hope of getting it off or any real contact. Here if she doesn't sit on your lap and rub her tits in your face, she is not doing her job!
Economically the US has more really rich people and more poor people (and associated problems) and whether you think average Americans are better off than average Canadians depends somewhat on your personal and cultural values (and how much you like ice and snow). American average per capita incomes are somewhat higher, and taxes and cost of living usually lower, but when you throw in other "quality of life" indicators both countries are usually ranked close together.
Cutlurally and socially we are quite similar and all the problems discussed here about female entitlement, divorce and hyper-feminism exist in similar measure, although probably Canada lags behind the US in most extremes. Canadians however have the advantage of being able to blame the US for all these problems as American imports, along with gun-crime and drugs, which is what makes us insufferably smug and morally superior.
Canadian strip clubs are indeed better as is the bacon. I have extensive experience in strip clubs because I am not too bright and it took me a long time to figure out what a waste of money they were. But, I would say my favorite Canadian strip club was The Penalty Box in Edmonton right across from the hockey rink.
And no, hockey is not the national sport of Canada. I am not Canadian yet I know this. I also know the capitals of all the Canadian provinces which got me an entire night of free drinks with members of the Canadian Navy in Malta a few years back. They tried to weasel out because I did not know the capital of Nunavut (it is Iqaluit if it comes up again) but I informed them this was not a province but a federal territory and then I came up with the capital of Yukon Territory so they bought me a shot. Then I named the three leading Canadian home run hitters of all time (at the time this was Larry Walker, Matt Stairs, and Justin Morneau; I think it still is). It deteriorated from there and the last thing I recall was us all standing on our chairs in the Hard Rock Cafe singing "Oh Canada" with some chicks from Japan. Then I woke up on the floor of my hotel completely covered with mud.
Do not attempt to drink with the Canadian Navy, particularly if the contingent includes many French Canadians.
Rubber Nursey
09-22-09, 17:13
guys, no study has ever proven any correlation between the legality of prostitution and the prevalence of sexual assault in the general community.
[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is about entitlement, punishment and/or control. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) happens in countries where women are treated as second-class citizens (entitlement) and in countries where women are perceived as having too much power (punishment and control). the same thing happens to men in prisons and the military - [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is used as a tool to enforce superiority, punish an enemy, or subdue a potential threat. sexual gratification might be a bonus outcome, but it's rarely the sole motivation.
and as sex is not the motivator, an accessible sex industry is not the cure.
Rubber Nursey
09-22-09, 17:31
ps. someone questioned the high sexual assault rates in sweden? i read a news article just a few months ago about that. some twit tried to link it to the swedish model (criminalisation of sex workers' clients) ..."i told you [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) would rise if you tried to abolish the sex industry!" *rolls eyes*
the article explained that sweden has recently changed the way sexual assaults are categorised. apparently there's barely any distinction made between a violent gang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and a man making a grab for your boob in the street. hardly surprising that their numbers are so high!
ps. someone questioned the high sexual assault rates in sweden? i read a news article just a few months ago about that. some twit tried to link it to the swedish model (criminalisation of sex workers' clients) ..."i told you [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) would rise if you tried to abolish the sex industry!" *rolls eyes*
the article explained that sweden has recently changed the way sexual assaults are categorised. apparently there's barely any distinction made between a violent gang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and a man making a grab for your boob in the street. hardly surprising that their numbers are so high!being swedish i can tell you this is part of the truth but another part of the truth is that the majority of [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) don't look like the typical swede if you know what i mean. immigration is fast becoming one of the major issues(if not the issue) for next year's elections and it seems like many swedes have had enough.
DJ FourMoney
09-22-09, 18:41
I'd guess the bigger numbers the better, or the less I get around American women the better. You can tell Michelle Obama is out there running around and it's like.? Just another one. You didn't hear from Laura Bush much or Hilary. Bill Clinton says he cracked.
I do not know if Obama will get a divorce or not but they've been talking about it at many of the clubs.
Bringing prostitution to the USA is not easy. I hear they have been working to get the bridge built across the central to south america divide.
WTF are you talking about?
i would be curious to hear whether a woman would feel safer in toronto or harare, by that statistic she is 60% more safer in harare. yeah, right![/quote]so you are assuming more safety in toronto based on what exactly? the biased idea that harare has more africans hence more [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124)?
just asking.
Doctor_Skank
09-22-09, 19:31
ps. someone questioned the high sexual assault rates in sweden? i read a news article just a few months ago about that. some twit tried to link it to the swedish model (criminalisation of sex workers' clients) ..."i told you [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) would rise if you tried to abolish the sex industry!" *rolls eyes*
the article explained that sweden has recently changed the way sexual assaults are categorised. apparently there's barely any distinction made between a violent gang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), and a man making a grab for your boob in the street. hardly surprising that their numbers are so high!there are plenty of [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) in sweden, a recent study showed that 6% of girls under 18 had been raped. that's alarmingly high.
http://www.globalpolitician.com/25869-sweden-immigration-islam
Gentleman Travel
09-22-09, 20:26
i would be curious to hear whether a woman would feel safer in toronto or harare, by that statistic she is 60% more safer in harare. yeah, right!
iso you are assuming more safety in toronto based on what exactly? the biased idea that harare has more africans hence more [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124)?
just asking.no, you are just implying ... that it is a racially based assumption.
maybe fursys says this because he has been to toronto and knows that the streets and bars are pretty safe.
but now that you mention it, blacks are responsible for a disproportionate level of violent crimes in toronto - especially gun crimes (but i have no idea if [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) statistics are higher, i have never heard of that as a racially-specific problem). shootings happen to two kinds of people - blacks and bystanders. but not africans, usually jamaicans. the only really dangerous areas in toronto are jamaican dominated housing projects. most other racial groups - like asians - keep their crime intra-mural. mostly blacks do too, but i guess their aim is worse.
Rubber Nursey
09-23-09, 05:48
sorry, i wasn't suggesting there are no [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) in sweden! i was just aware that there's some concern about how the sexual assault statistics are being collected in that country.
not that they're alone...australia is doing its fair share of fudging the books, as well. i remember a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) study being torn apart a couple of years ago, because it included things like 'sexual harrassment', 'intercourse under the influence of drugs or alcohol', 'uninvited sexual touching', etc. not that those things aren't wrong! but in my book, they're not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). personally, i think lumping all these things into the one basket minimises the trauma of actual [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). i can just imagine some woman patting a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) victim on the shoulder, saying "oh, i know exactly how you feel ...i once worked in an office with nudie pictures on the wall".
it also makes men look like dangerous perverts and makes women look/feel helpless. according to one australian campaign, "1 in 4 women will suffer sexual abuse in their lifetime". like it's a foregone conclusion! why are we raising our daughters to fear men?
'intercourse under the influence of drugs or alcohol'
and then rn says
"not that those things aren't wrong!"
so i have issues with this. if both i and the woman are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, what is wrong? if we have sex in this condition, who is wrong?
i know that in the yew ess, if i am drunk and she is drunk then whatever happens is clearly my fault. in fact i am supposed to judge whether she is "too impaired to consent."
if i am also drunk then how do i determine if she is "too impaired to consent"? a careful reading of the relevant statutes in my area shows that i am vulnerable to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charges if her bac is over .08 regardless of whether my bac is even higher.
i really am not interested in deciding if you are "too impaired to consent." do you want to fuck, or what?
Rubber Nursey
09-23-09, 07:11
'intercourse under the influence of drugs or alcohol'
And then RN says
"Not that those things aren't wrong!"
Oops...sorry again. That was an accident. (Jeez...if drunk sex is 'wrong', almost all the [private] sex I've had in my LIFE was 'wrong'! LOL) I added the 'not that those things aren't wrong' as an afterthought, in case someone accused me of condoning other sexual misconduct. Forgot that was one of the examples I'd given.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on the matter of consenting while under the influence. If I say yes, I say yes - whether I'm pissed or not. If I say no and you do it anyway, it's assault - whether I'm pissed or not. The only time I would class it as sexual assault is when the woman is so drunk she's UNCONSCIOUS. In that case, she is NOT able to give consent.
Chocha Monger
09-24-09, 01:04
http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-brothels_10.html
I don't think the writer has a clue about brothels or mongering in general. The line up in American brothels are just plain scary. If you doubt that just take a look at what the Cherry Patch Brothel has on its menu at their website.
Rubber Nursey
09-24-09, 10:01
http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-brothels_10.html I don't think the writer has a clue about brothels or mongering in general.
Who writes this crap? And what sort of uninformed idiot makes those pathetic reader comments??? *sigh*
Who writes this crap? And what sort of uninformed idiot makes those pathetic reader comments??? *sigh*I do not have much problem with the article itself and the author, since all those "top rated" stories are subjective and written on some purpose. One cannot expect an article satisfying everybody's opinions. Or they may have other purposes such as promotion of the businesses or just to have website content to attract readers and potential subscribers to the magazine.
They got a lot more of much weirder than "Top 10 brothel" stuff, for example "Top 10: Reasons Not To Tell Her You've Cheated" or "Top 10: Ways To Impress Her Mom". WTF.
The fucked up and ridiculous thing there is the most (except a couple) of the comments.
"taking you for more cash in one night than a respectable chick would in 5 dates. All to get the same nut, either way. Dudes who do this have real insecurities and just want it easy."
"talk about lowering your standards. The day guys are desperate enough to pay for sex, they are no longer guys, just pervs."
I would guess that the writers of AskMen are actually smart, they are writing and selling bullshit stories to their stupid readers. Normal people who know whats going on would not have time to read this kinda magazines. Another forum is much better place to read.
Bango Cheito
09-24-09, 22:49
come to think of it rn i guess my theory is shot considering there are more [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) in canada than the us... doesn't really back it up much..
and it is true, here in colombia there are a lot of pickpocketings and a lot of street crime and even still a fair amount of killing going on, but not that much [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). kinda weird if you think about it.
lately i've been thinking about all the horrible shit women did to me over the years. but first of all, i should have known better than to let myself get taken advantage of so much, secondly, it really wasn't so bad compared to some horror stories i've heard, thirdly, when i really thought about it i gave just about as good as i got, so the books are pretty balanced. :p
Chocha Monger
09-24-09, 22:57
The police was hard at work protecting you from pussy while someone was probably being murdered, beaten or robbed somewhere. I guess protecting men from being exposed to 18 to 24 yrs old barista pussy is more important.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33003900/ns/us_news-weird_news/?GT1=43001
5 bikini baristas accused of prostitution
Women reportedly charged up to $80 to strip down while fixing coffees
updated 11:19 a.m. CT, Thurs., Sept . 24, 2009
EVERETT, Wash. - Five Washington state baristas charged customers to touch their breasts and buttocks at an espresso stand where servers wear bikinis to draw business, police said.
The five were charged Wednesday with prostitution. Charging money for that kind of touching falls under the city's definition of prostitution.
The Everett Herald reports the women were charging up to $80 to strip down while fixing lattes and mochas.
During a two-month investigation, detectives also saw the women lick whipped cream off each other and pose naked for pictures at the Grab-n-Go Espresso stand in Everett, about 30 miles north of Seattle.
Owner Bill Wheeler told KCPQ-TV employees sign a policy prohibiting the kind of behavior alleged by police. He said anyone caught doing anything illegal would be fired.
The women, ages 18 to 24, were not arrested, said Sgt. Robert Goetz. They were expected to be in Municipal Court in a few weeks to answer misdemeanor charges.
40 complaints
Police have received more than 40 complaints in the past year of women exposing themselves at coffee stands. Goetz said the department investigated Grab-n-Go because it had the most complaints.
"This was about alleged conduct, not about what the women were wearing," he said. "They could have been wearing parkas and if they continued to conduct themselves that way, we still would have filed the criminal charges."
Undercover detectives began posing as customers in mid-July.
During one visit, a barista allegedly told a detective that for $20, she and another barista would give him a show. He paid and they bared their breasts and pulled down their undergarments.
The women also charged customers to play "basketball," a game in which customers threw wadded up money at the women, who caught the money in their underwear, detectives said.
The city council is expected to decide next week whether to change the city's lewd conduct ordinance to cover espresso stands.
Member #4537
09-24-09, 23:16
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=933180&postcount=1176
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]The police was hard at work protecting you from pussy while someone was probably being murdered, beaten or robbed somewhere. I guess protecting men from being exposed to 18 to 24 yrs old barista pussy is more important.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33003900/ns/us_news-weird_news/?GT1=43001
5 bikini baristas accused of prostitution
Women reportedly charged up to $80 to strip down while fixing coffees
updated 11:19 a.m. CT, Thurs., Sept . 24, 2009
EVERETT, Wash. - Five Washington state baristas charged customers to touch their breasts and buttocks at an espresso stand where servers wear bikinis to draw business, police said.
During a two-month investigation, detectives also saw the women lick whipped cream off each other and pose naked for pictures at the Grab-n-Go Espresso stand in Everett, about 30 miles north of Seattle.
Two plus months of "undercover" operation for what!?
The US is being controlled by a bunch of fucking Christian Fundamentalists , who will ,if they get their way, introduce their very own version of Sharia Law.Seriously glad I got out of the place.
I always remember a Dutch girl commenting to me in a bar that " Americans think sex is dirty and violence is funny, we think sex is funny and violence is dirty ". And that was in 1993 before things got REALLY bad.
Gfe Finder
09-25-09, 00:57
http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-brothels_10.html
I don't think the writer has a clue about brothels or mongering in general. The line up in American brothels are just plain scary. If you doubt that just take a look at what the Cherry Patch Brothel has on its menu at their website.
The article is interesting, but not new. There was a discussion in the FKK Oase thread about it a while back:
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1. Yes, the writer has at best a minimal clue of where the best brothels are (Bernds and Oase belong on the list, but the rest....)
2. No American brothel belongs anywhere near the top 10. The prices and service levels (among other issues) simply don't justify it.
3. These things are subjective and probably meant to spur discussion more than anything. With that in mind, I'd still like to know what the writer was smoking or who if anyone was paying him off (Dennis Hof I'm looking in your direction... ;)) when he wrote this.
1. Yes, the writer has at best a minimal clue of where the best brothels are (Bernds and Oase belong on the list, but the rest....)
2. No American brothel belongs anywhere near the top 10. The prices and service levels (among other issues) simply don't justify it.I assume that the Rio Centaurus may belong to the list as well (they gave it #4).
Although it's the most expensive therma, therefore I have not been to Centaurus, but some other Rio thermas were probably the best brothels I ever seen.
Of course its weird to see an American brothel in the list. It was probably done for a patriotic reason.
Rubber Nursey
09-25-09, 03:17
I would guess that the writers of AskMen are actually smart, they are writing and selling bullshit stories to their stupid readers.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant by 'crap'. :) Dumbing down for the masses. It's amazing how people flock to these shallow, meaningless articles, just because they have 'brothel' or 'prostitute' in the title.
the hofstra university first-year student who lied about being gang-raped on campus will not face charges, a long island prosecutor said friday.
ndonye had claimed that a man lured her away from a dance party and then he and four others gang raped her in a dormitory bathroom.
police arrested four men, including a hofstra student.
but three days later, ndonye recanted her statement when authorities told her that one of the men had video recorded the encounter on his cellphone. the video apparently indicated the sex was consensual.
police released the men after ndonye changed her story.
nassau county district attorney kathleen rice said danmel ndonye has agreed to undergo an intensive and monitored year-long psychiatric program and to perform 250 hours of community service in exchange for not being prosecuted.....................
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/education/090925_hofstra_rape_accuser_no_charges
this type of behavior is quite common with american black women. a black provider tried to pull this bs on me and i told her to go to hell. i scheduled a session, showed up at her apartment location, and she would not pick up her phone. i gave her 30 mins and called again. she still refused to pick up, so i told her i was going to broadcast her actions on all the adult message boards. she called me back immediately, ticked off, i never picked up the phone, but she left a message stating she was going to destroy my life by accusing me [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). now this is a girl i've never met. i called her back and told her to kiss my ass and posted my experience.
this type of behavior is very common with american black women. a black provider tried to pull this bs on me and i told her to go to hell. i scheduled a session, showed up at her apartment location, and she would not pick up her phone. i gave her 30 mins and called again. she still refused to pick up, so i told her i was going to broadcast her actions on all the adult message boards. she called me back immediately, ticked off, i never picked up the phone, but she left a message stating she was going to destroy my life by accusing me [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). now this is a girl i've never met. i called her back and told her to kiss my ass and posted my experience.
this case pisses me off. the guys were in jail right after she accused them of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). she owes them time served or money for slander. nothing else will suffice.
it frightens me to see this type of behavior.
the penalty for false accusations of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) should be the same as the penalty for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
sure am glad i live where i do; you can't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the willing!
I forgot to say the reason they were let go was because somebody was disrespectful enough to record it on their cell phone. What would have happened to them if that asshole hadn't done that ?
In this case these guys went through a 3rd world legal system. They had to prove their innocence before they were cleared of being guilty.
Again it's either money time served or a pound of flesh. She gets to choose.
Chocha Monger
09-26-09, 20:21
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112550626
Note the reasons these women give for not being married.
Naked Gunz
09-26-09, 21:48
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112550626
Note the reasons these women give for not being married.
Same ole song and dance..These women just need to ADMIT what they believe! That since they busted thier asses in college, the blue collar joe isn't good enough for them. WTF in their right mind gets married anymore anyway?
While pounding away on my LBFM for the 3rd time this eve, I will feel really guilty about my AA sistas I am not marrying.
Same ole song and dance..These women just need to ADMIT what they believe! That since they busted thier asses in college, the blue collar joe isn't good enough for them. WTF in their right mind gets married anymore anyway?
While pounding away on my LBFM for the 3rd time this eve, I will feel really guilty about my AA sistas I am not marrying.
FYI.....LBFM is military slang for "little brown fucking machine".
"Niambi Carter, 31, has a Ph.D. and is an assistant professor of political science at Purdue University, admits that she has been hard-pressed to find a black mate with a similar level of education.
But she says it may be just as hard to find an interested man who is not black.
"Black women are not seen as marriageable by those outside of their race," she says. "We are not seen as adding status." "
I probably should be careful how I word this, but it would appear by the above comments that because they are both black and female, they automatically believe they do not add status, and are immediate victims. I can honestly say I have never heard that comment from any male I've ever known, an intelligent, goodlooking black girl should have no problem at all getting any dates. The problem is, once again, the American female, black and white, having the usual laundry list of impossible expectations. When those expectations are not met, the 'woe is me' syndrome appears.
Chocha Monger
09-26-09, 22:56
"Niambi Carter, 31, has a Ph.D. and is an assistant professor of political science at Purdue University, admits that she has been hard-pressed to find a black mate with a similar level of education.
But she says it may be just as hard to find an interested man who is not black.
"Black women are not seen as marriageable by those outside of their race," she says. "We are not seen as adding status." "
I probably should be careful how I word this, but it would appear by the above comments that because they are both black and female, they automatically believe they do not add status, and are immediate victims. I can honestly say I have never heard that comment from any male I've ever known, an intelligent, goodlooking black girl should have no problem at all getting any dates. The problem is, once again, the American female, black and white, having the usual laundry list of impossible expectations. When those expectations are not met, the 'woe is me' syndrome appears.
Someone on this site was recently theorizing that older college educated men will eventually have an easier time dating younger college educated women because of declining male enrollments in colleges. I doubt that will ever happen since the evidence points to the fact that American women refuse to compromise on their list of qualifying requirements for Mr. Right. In this case black women look first for a black man who is perfect in their opinion, if they don't find one they look amount the other races. If they are still not successful they remain single but they categorically refuse to marry down. In most cases American women want to marry up. They don't just want to marry someone on their level, as one of the women pointed out someone having the level of academic accomplishment is not enough. They want to gain financially and socially through the marriage. These women often claim that they're looking for love but more often it is something else they seek altogether.
"Black women are not seen as marriageable by those outside of their race," she says. "We are not seen as adding status." "
I think this is true in the U.S. A few White American men might harbor a deep attraction for Black Women, but would never show it outwardly. In parts of Western Europe, however the opposite is the case, men in countries such as Italy, Germany, France, The Netherlands love Black Women.
Member #2041
09-27-09, 05:37
"Niambi Carter, 31, has a Ph.D. and is an assistant professor of political science at Purdue University, admits that she has been hard-pressed to find a black mate with a similar level of education.
But she says it may be just as hard to find an interested man who is not black.
"Black women are not seen as marriageable by those outside of their race," she says. "We are not seen as adding status." "
I probably should be careful how I word this, but it would appear by the above comments that because they are both black and female, they automatically believe they do not add status, and are immediate victims. I can honestly say I have never heard that comment from any male I've ever known, an intelligent, goodlooking black girl should have no problem at all getting any dates. The problem is, once again, the American female, black and white, having the usual laundry list of impossible expectations. When those expectations are not met, the 'woe is me' syndrome appears.
How many white guys do you know who would not consider Beyonce, or Halle Berry, or Tyra Banks, etc, etc, to be marriageable, worthy of status?
Doctor_Skank
09-27-09, 13:53
how many white guys do you know who would not consider beyonce, or halle berry, or tyra banks, etc, etc, to be marriageable, worthy of status?black women are very much marriage material for many white men if all the other factors fit.
she's paranoid.
btw, i'm american. my peer group would generally also not be opposed to the idea. if anything, black women would have issues marrying white men.
Naked Gunz
09-27-09, 22:05
btw, i'm american. my peer group would generally also not be opposed to the idea. if anything, black women would have issues marrying white men.
and i can tell you...they do! black women love to go to church, which
is where i end up if i start dating at a sista. it's almost the law with them. the peer pressure of them dragging a white guy in a typical baptist church would be too much to take. but that would work out like everything else usually.
ajax i know what lbfm means...i used it in the sense that as i drop seed here in pattaya, i am not thing of marrying anybody ..blk,wht or other!
Halle Berry is an exquisitely beautiful woman. I get a hard on looking at pictures of her even though she doesn't have gigantic boobs.
Tell me about it, I've busted holes in several "drawers" just looking at pics of Halle Berry.
I forgot to say the reason they were let go was because somebody was disrespectful enough to record it on their cell phone. What would have happened to them if that asshole hadn't done that ?
This is insane. The next "logical" thing in line would be for her and other feminazi to sue the guy for being indecent for filming it. LOL
Unbelievable.
Gentleman Travel
09-28-09, 15:20
someone on this site was recently theorizing that older college educated men will eventually have an easier time dating younger college educated women because of declining male enrollments in colleges.
that was me, but i didn't mean it in terms of improved odds for older men getting younger women (although that may also be true) but rather that university educated men would be in the driver's seat because the larger pool of university educated women would be competing for them.
even more important is the long-term implication for marriage or long-term relationships. as the quote above indicates, educated women are going to want educated men (and probably higher-earning) for mating purposes. this will put the shoe on the other foot. an educated professional man will be highly sought after - without having to be an adonis as well. this is much like the situation in russia, where the sex imbalance opens up vast opportunities for older guys with a decent job and a good suit, with young beautiful women he has never been able to date at home.
men have always been prepared to "date-down" that is to date and marry women with lower education, social status and income, but that is (or has been) very different for women. and i don't think it means women are greedy or mercenary, it is just the pattern that has existed for centuries and will not change overnight. being in a relationship with the woman earning more, being more educated and coming from a higher social group would still be awkward for most men and women, i should think. maybe that will change.
i doubt that will ever happen since the evidence points to the fact that american women refuse to compromise on their list of qualifying requirements for mr. right. in this case black women look first for a black man who is perfect in their opinion, if they don't find one they look amount the other races.
this article about the dilemma of black women supports my thesis. but their problem seems more acute than for white women, i guess because fewer black men go to university and end up in lower status positions than equivalent white men. these women want to marry within their peer group, but the pool of qualified males is too small.
so many women will have to compromise - at least in certain things.
my example was that a man with the right status would be able to succeed even if he is not cool or handsome, whereas in the past he would have been left drooling on the sidelines. so the woman is compromising on looks or image. but equally she might have to compromise on race or income, as she works down her heirarchy of preferences.
where i come from a woman will be more likely to compromise on education than on race, at least where the issue is black & white. but maybe that is different in the states. certainly i saw a lot more inter-racial couples in france this summer than i ever see in canada. and again it is easier for the man to marry outside of his status group - to a less educated woman, or to an asian or foreigner, than for a woman to do the same.
however, western women have been very slow to clue into this, which leads to all this whining about how hard it is to find a good guy willing to "make a commitment". well, probably those guys have finally realized they are in the driver's seat after decades of begging and want to enjoy it. and she has not adjusted her sights quickly enough. that is the difference with eastern european woman (and presumably many others in developing countries) - they understand the problems they face in dating and mating within their peer group and are very willing to consider other socio-demographic groups.
if they are still not successful they remain single but they categorically refuse to marry down. in most cases american women want to marry up. they don't just want to marry someone on their level, as one of the women pointed out someone having the level of academic accomplishment is not enough. they want to gain financially and socially through the marriage. these women often claim that they're looking for love but more often it is something else they seek altogether.
well marriage has always been about more than love or sex.
if anything marriage is (and has always been) about staus and belonging.
status does not have to equate to money, but often does.
within any demographic group (with similar education, income and family background) the girls will still go after status - who is the group leader? who is cool? who is better looking or athletic? more successful?
this should not be news to anyone.
in fact, it is how we succeed at mongering.
we travel to places where we become highly sought after because we are viewed as higher status than the local men, who are poor, poorly educated, perhaps ill-mannered and unable to provide for their women.
Chocha Monger
09-28-09, 19:09
Have you guys seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wayZtsSl5s&feature=PlayList&p=6E17C87054FFCAC9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2
generally, black people do not care if a black woman dates, marries, or bears children with a white guy! if she's an oreo or fake, then black people will dislike her and she'll look for solace with white people. she'll be trying so hard to "act white" that white people will be entertained and not fearful, while black people will recognize another oreo. black people don't care about the offspring 'cause the kids will be black by legal default. in contrast, whitey cares about black / white offspring 'cause their white genes / skin color and hair is lost forever. the prejudice that they (ie. white people) survive under and perpetuate will be directed towards their children's child and the white people know how bad / tough / burden it is to be black usa.
using hollywood icons as a litmus for interracial dating is fraudulent. in addition, all of the aforementioned actresses are of light or mixed breed with lighting and make-up.
on the other hand, a black usa guy who dates white girls is looked upon negatively mainly because the white girl is "trailer trash" and he's giving the money / financial mobility to the white man bypassing black people. sure the kids will be black by legal default, but they will be immersed in white man's land with the white girl, who knows 0% about oppression, being the trustee. also, black males dating white females after the 500 year legacy of lynching, sodomy, castration, etcetera lends bad feelings to those that would choose / encourage this behaivor.
white usa already doesn't want black usa to gain success or mobility and if it is acquired to reward a white girl with access is the black usa paradigm. again, the black male usually marries down (ie. trailer trash) although he too is from the black trailer park (ie. housing projects.)
black usa already knows about the subjugation of black males since the slavery days. divide the family with black male usa financial / occupational inferiority and he will become dislocated while she assume "single parent" status helping to enstill another generation of black family instability which leads to social ills and lack of social mobility. everyone knows this! hence, we understand the phenomenon, but with usa commercialization this fact is being repackaged under the guise that social mobility is available to everyone void race. example: professional athletics, o'bama, hollywood entertainment. in contrast, how many fortune 500 ceos are black usa; us federal government politicians; and other real advancements in the social structure.
in conclusion, black women know the game and only those that desire to be oreos or lacking in self-pride get confused. trying to be oreo looses white respect from the one's you are attempting to impress. and when you're not present, they continue laughing at you as do your black peers.
finding your peer group depends on your geographical location as well!
I dunno but there has to be 20-25 times as many couples where he is black and she is white for every couple where he is white and she is black. That's gotta mean something.
I just have no idea what that something might be.
I dunno but there has to be 20-25 times as many couples where he is black and she is white for every couple where he is white and she is black. That's gotta mean something.
I just have no idea what that something might be.
White women are marketed as being the symbol of beauty and therefore everyone wants what is marketed! For if you have what is marketed, then you gain social acclaim.
Black guys are marketed as the symbol of physical and sexual strength! For if you have what is marketed, then you gain social acclaim and physical intimidation with sexual lusts! The lack of social acclaim is provided, except for celebrity, due to envy, racism, and other fabrications.
Strength: For a race and gender to endure domestic-terrorism encompassing over 30 countries for 500 years, the perception of strength is realized. For a race and gender to "roll with the punches" until 1965 (ie. USA aparthied; 1988 South Africa Aparthied; 1990s Australia Aparthied) one is living proof of such strength (ie. physical, mental, emotional, economic.) Only racism and social ostracization can prevent such female attraction from being realized.
O'bama: Every organization needs a mascot! The Board of Directors / Senate make the actual decisions and they are ill-represented to ensure any real change / militant acts do not occur! Short Leach.
DJ FourMoney
09-29-09, 20:52
as a black man (not from a trailer park, or the "hood") date mostly white women but not exclusively, well almost but in reality that isn't true.
at my "middle class" peer group level (if you will, which contains the "working poor"), i have access to a wide range of women, especially in "liberal" california. i could date black women if i wanted too, i choose not too for a very narrow range of reasons.
if white women are the standard of beauty that everybody else is measured too, then call me naive for subconsciously feeling that might be true and running with it (western media doesn't help...)
that's not to say there aren't attractive black women, but ask any black man and he'll tell you, its a numbers game. if you demand an attractive black woman, by western standards, not african/south american standards then the pickings are quite slim.
i have dated and banged almost every color under the rainbow and the basic problems lie beneath; the same problems we outline in this forum at great lengths.
there are plenty of "hot" mixed black women all over the us that aren't famous and live quite the normal "life". i will agree with meat loaf that most bi-racial men tend to identify with their father's origins while bi-racial women tend to gravitate to their mother's origins or praise the ideal balance of being "both".
what i have seen with bi-racial males is that "street cred" is important now that urban culture has permeated (sp?) our society and to appeal to women, they tend to go down the "thug life" path. one of my very close friends, his brother is bi-racial (black father/white mother) and he's well, "kinda corny" even though he played football at the high school and college level (he's now a lawyer). that same friend's twin sister has a child that is bi-racial, but he's more black than white, since his father is bi-racial and his mother is black. he believes he's "black" though and there's no need to ask if he identifies with one more than the other. he know his father is half white and that his other mother (his father's wife) is white, so i'm sure he understands (plays football at utah state and 3.8 student) both sides.
the fact remains that black/black marriages is more likely to happen than black/other marriages in america. many blacks feel an obligation to marry within race for a narrow range of reasons, including "don't marry the white devil". but as i have said before there are quite a few interracial marriages in my immediate family and i could have quite possibly had a white stepfather and brother many years ago, it just didn't quite work out between them.
because of these factors, there are no raised eyebrows at family reunions as a result...
DJ FourMoney
09-29-09, 21:03
White women are marketed as being the symbol of beauty and therefore everyone wants what is marketed! For if you have what is marketed, then you gain social acclaim.
Black guys are marketed as the symbol of physical and sexual strength! For if you have what is marketed, then you gain social acclaim and physical intimidation with sexual lusts! The lack of social acclaim is provided, except for celebrity, due to envy, racism, and other fabrications.
Strength: For a race and gender to endure domestic-terrorism encompassing over 30 countries for 500 years, the perception of strength is realized. For a race and gender to "roll with the punches" until 1965 (ie. USA aparthied; 1988 South Africa Aparthied; 1990s Australia Aparthied) one is living proof of such strength (ie. physical, mental, emotional, economic.) Only racism and social ostracization can prevent such female attraction from being realized.
O'bama: Every organization needs a mascot! The Board of Directors / Senate make the actual decisions and they are ill-represented to ensure any real change / militant acts do not occur! Short Leach.
What's not being said often enough is that in most Western cultures Black Men are to be feared, which is why we are killed and jailed at an alarming rate and seen as "Objects" by Swingers and Cuckold men...
Well yeah on the jail part but on the killing not so much because that is predominantly black on black. The exceptions get more publicity though. In fact no matter what race you look at, the incarceration rates in the US are ridiculously high. Just really outlandish. Legalize drugs. All these fucking non-violent drug offenders are in jail because of the Morality Police and because private companies like Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) are lobbying for this.
However I do believe this white American kunt who gave hepatitis to all those people in my former state by shooting up Fentanyl and then using the dirty syringe to fill the fentanyl container with saline, is going to get life and I am okay with that even though you could argue it was a non-violent crime. Fucking junkies. Junkies give wh@res a bad name.
Member #4167
09-29-09, 23:07
GT,
I am glad that you are bringing this forum back to discussing AW.
That was me, but I didn't mean it in terms of improved odds for older men getting younger women (although that may also be true) but rather that university educated men would be in the driver's seat because the larger pool of university educated women would be competing for them.This is utter nonsense. Guys do all sorts of things to get laid by attractive women. We buy sports cars, get all sorts of bling. We spend billions of year on new and improved mouthwashes and toothpastes, hoping that will improve our game.
If most women preferred having sex with men who were university educated, then most men would be university educated.
True, among university-educated women there is a preference for university-educated men. However, when a high-school dropout rockstar comes along, watch how fast the woman drops her university-educated man for the rockstar.
Oh Ya Papi
09-30-09, 02:13
I am not into american women white or black, latino yes.
America is the fattest country in the world and it is a fact AA women are in a pandemic proportion of fatness!
Its a numbers game, we, here, on this forum want thin, (or semi thin) women to bang! Not cows!
Duh. Thus, black guys that are handsome in shape educated get white girls, also status but less headache. She won't drag you to the gosple church, I. E. Cutural dif. Also blacks and women have the most rights and respect in the world in the USA. I have been to 31 countries, and its damn true.
For example:
My friend a successful writer head editor went to the d. R. With a real cool, Light Skin black police officer, and guys he is the mack here in USA, he fucked my girlfriend's friend at a party in the bathroom when she was confused and believed she was a dyke. Great conquest, anyways, they went to the dominican rep. And everywhere the went they asked my white friend if he was his servant. He got so pissed he changed his flight and came back to USA.
Peace, and buena suerte!
Chocha Monger
09-30-09, 04:35
By United States Of Jamerica
Posted on September 8, 2009, Printed on September 29, 2009
http://www.wiretapmag.org/blogs/44488/
(This post originally appeared on US of J.)
The thing that bothers me most about this New York Times piece on the efficacy of sex offender alert programs is that it focuses on the efficacy of sex offender alert programs, and doesn't bother to raise any objections to the idea of a sex offender alert program itself.
Indeed, it's pretty much taken for granted that everyone wants some sort of program or registry that catalogs and monitors sex offenders. So, at the risk of sounding objectively pro-sex offender, I'm going to say that I'm more than a little uncomfortable with the idea of a sex offender alert program, and sex offender registries more generally.
The practical objections are pretty straightforward and are worth repeating. For starters, the definition of "sex offender" is impossibly broad and varies from state to state. In Virginia, for instance, a 16-year-old who has a sexual relationship with his 14-year-old girlfriend would "qualify" as a sex offender, due to Virginia law assigning sex offender status to anyone having sexual relations with someone under the age of 15.
And if, for whatever reason, he was arrested, prosecuted and convicted for having sex with his girlfriend, he would have earned himself a permanent spot on Virginia's sex offender registry. That's even a relatively benign example; in several states, crimes like public nudity or public urination warrant inclusion on a sex offender registry.
Unsurprisingly, this loose definition of sex offender has left us with a ridiculously high number of registered sex offenders. By the Economist's count (and I recommend that you read the whole article), there are 674,000 registered sex offenders in the U.S., and considering the huge range of crimes that warrant registration, there's no question that a plurality -- or even a majority -- of those are unfairly listed as sex offenders.
Which is made all the more problematic when you consider that sex offender registries often don't provide enough information for the reader to make a judgment on whether or not the person in question is actually dangerous.
It doesn't help that states continue to pass incredibly draconian sex offender laws. In Georgia, for example, registered offenders are barred from living within 1,000 feet of any area where children may gather, including schools, libraries, parks and other public recreation facilities. Furthermore, sex offenders are forbidden from even working within 1,000 feet of schools or childcare facilities.
The sheer number of restrictions associated with being a registered sex offender make it nearly impossible to carve out a life post-conviction and, in all likelihood, play a significant part in contributing to the high levels of homelessness among convicted sex offenders.
Now, it's worth saying that I understand why the public supports registering sex offenders; a significant number of those registered have committed terrible crimes against children, and it is important that parents can identify those offenders, considering the relatively high rate of recidivism among sex offenders.
That said, sex offender registration laws -- as currently constituted -- are mostly counterproductive. The downside of registering thousands of people for crimes like public nudity or streaking is that it becomes nearly impossible to monitor the offenders who pose an actual threat to children. What's more, the side-effects of harsh sex offender laws -- homelessness, joblessness, heightened anxiety and stress -- make it far more likely that serious sex offenders will commit further crimes out of desperation.
Trying to make life a little more comfortable for convicted sex offenders isn't exactly popular, but it's necessary. Condemning men and women -- most of whom have served their time in prison or on probation -- to a lifetime of severe restrictions is counterproductive and manifestly unfair. Sure, forcing sex offenders onto the streets or into the poorhouses might make us feel good, but it does absolutely nothing to help us build safe and strong communities.
That furry that fucked the 16 year old boy pled guilty to a couple misdemeanors today. She will have to register for the rest of her life. Apparently her thing was dressing up as a cat and calling herself "Kitten. If you reverse the genders, what's the odds they would let the adult male cop to a misdemeanor?
Yeah. Real slim.
Chocha Monger
09-30-09, 06:06
that furry that fucked the 16 year old boy pled guilty to a couple misdemeanors today. she will have to register for the rest of her life. apparently her thing was dressing up as a cat and calling herself "kitten. if you reverse the genders, what's the odds they would let the adult male cop to a misdemeanor?
yeah. real slim.
the judge and jury probably thought that "kitten" (more like "cougar") was being really cute by dressing up like an alley cat and [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) that boy. people tend to say, "oh come on, she was a milf and it was the 16 yr old boy's fantasy come through. just give her a slap on the wrist and send her on her way to do it again." when an old female [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) a minor male it is trivialized in american society. it's the old stifler's mom joke. never mind that the traumatized kid will be a deviant seeking out old women dress as pole cats to get off for the rest of his life. it is a fact that a boy's first sexual experience plays a pivotal role in the direction his sexual predispositions take for the rest of his life. he probably wouldn't be able to get it up without fur and lots of dust, maybe even a few fleas.
DJ FourMoney
09-30-09, 07:07
I dunno but there has to be 20-25 times as many couples where he is black and she is white for every couple where he is white and she is black. That's gotta mean something.
I just have no idea what that something might be.
Married couples in the United States in 2006:
White Wife Black Wife Asian Wife Other Wife
White Husband 50,224,000 117,000 530,000 489,000
Black Husband 286,000 3,965,000 34,000 45,000
Asian Husband 174,000 6,000 2,493,000 13,000
Other Husband 535,000 23,000 41,000 558,000
8.4% of Black Men are married to a non-Black Woman
That's a TINY number, but that has jumped 40% since the last census (2000), should be interesting when the 2010 census numbers become available.
Those numbers from a personal perspective -
Most of the Asians Women married to Black men are product of the Military Industrial Complex :ie Korean, Vietnamese or Philippine. Most of the Black men I know that are married to one of the above have spent time in the US Armed Forces. In general, those from Chinese or Japanese backgrounds are even more less likely to be married to a Black Man.
The 45,000 "Other" Women married to Black Men, I would guess to be mostly Latino which has seen an increase since (especially in California) Blacks and Browns (in the same income bracket) live among each other (ie: South Central Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose, Stockton, Sacramento, Central Valley).
DJ FourMoney
09-30-09, 07:15
Well yeah on the jail part but on the killing not so much because that is predominantly black on black. The exceptions get more publicity though. In fact no matter what race you look at, the incarceration rates in the US are ridiculously high. Just really outlandish. Legalize drugs. All these fucking non-violent drug offenders are in jail because of the Morality Police and because private companies like Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) are lobbying for this.
However I do believe this white American kunt who gave hepatitis to all those people in my former state by shooting up Fentanyl and then using the dirty syringe to fill the fentanyl container with saline, is going to get life and I am okay with that even though you could argue it was a non-violent crime. Fucking junkies. Junkies give wh@res a bad name.
I agree about Black on Black, it should be the last thing we are doing, among other things... I totally agree about drugs being legalized, in other European countries when Drug use became mundane, use went DOWN.
If you make it super cheap and accessible , then violence will go way down, the profit motive from violent drug lords will go away.
Well yeah on the jail part but on the killing not so much because that is predominantly black on black. The exceptions get more publicity though. In fact no matter what race you look at, the incarceration rates in the US are ridiculously high. Just really outlandish. Legalize drugs. All these fucking non-violent drug offenders are in jail because of the Morality Police and because private companies like Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) are lobbying for this.
However I do believe this white American kunt who gave hepatitis to all those people in my former state by shooting up Fentanyl and then using the dirty syringe to fill the fentanyl container with saline, is going to get life and I am okay with that even though you could argue it was a non-violent crime. Fucking junkies. Junkies give wh@res a bad name.
Black on Black murder; Latino on Latino murder; white on white murder: The majority of all murders are perpetrated by those within their communities since that's who they socialize / live / work with.
It would be interesting to learn how many Black USA deaths are caused at the hands of the police? I know the Cincinnati police department kills 5 Black men per year! I also know that less than 50 police officers are murdered per year in the USA.
Married couples in the United States in 2006:
White Wife Black Wife Asian Wife Other Wife
White Husband 50,224,000 117,000 530,000 489,000
Black Husband 286,000 3,965,000 34,000 45,000
Asian Husband 174,000 6,000 2,493,000 13,000
Other Husband 535,000 23,000 41,000 558,000
8.4% of Black Men are married to a non-Black Woman
That's a TINY number, but that has jumped 40% since the last census (2000), should be interesting when the 2010 census numbers become available.
Those numbers from a personal perspective -
Most of the Asians Women married to Black men are product of the Military Industrial Complex :ie Korean, Vietnamese or Philippine. Most of the Black men I know that are married to one of the above have spent time in the US Armed Forces. In general, those from Chinese or Japanese backgrounds are even more less likely to be married to a Black Man.
The 45,000 "Other" Women married to Black Men, I would guess to be mostly Latino which has seen an increase since (especially in California) Blacks and Browns (in the same income bracket) live among each other (ie: South Central Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose, Stockton, Sacramento, Central Valley).
Great stats! Just further encouragement for me to live / date overseas!
Gentleman Travel
09-30-09, 15:00
GT,
I am glad that you are bringing this forum back to discussing AW.
This is utter nonsense. Guys do all sorts of things to get laid by attractive women. We buy sports cars, get all sorts of bling. We spend billions of year on new and improved mouthwashes and toothpastes, hoping that will improve our game.
If most women preferred having sex with men who were university educated, then most men would be university educated.
True, among university-educated women there is a preference for university-educated men. However, when a high-school dropout rockstar comes along, watch how fast the woman drops her university-educated man for the rockstar.
I was talking about mating, not dating. Although while still at university, and just out, male graduates will have a huge advantage in that their social and professional circles will be target-rich environments.
But yes, having higher status in one area (fame, wealth) can certainly overcome a mismatch in another.
These just very strong tendancies, not impermeable barriers.
We can cross all kinds of boundaries in dating or having sex, but hooking up for life and raising a family causes a real shift in selection criteria. I think this is more true for women than for men - womens' nesting instinct starts to come out. And this doesn't just mean narrowing the racial options, but equally class and education. Lot's of girls date "bad boys" but end up marrying "Steady Eddies".
Remember Billy Joel's song "I knew the bride when she used to rock and roll"?
"Now on the arm of her daddy, she's walkin' down the aisle
I see her catch my eye and give me a secret smile
Maybe it's too old fashioned, but we once were close friends
Oh but the way that she looks today, she never could have then...
"Well, take a look at the bridegroom smilin' pleased as pie
Shakin' hands all around with a glassy look in his eye
He got a real good job and his shirt and tie is nice
But I remember a time when she never would have looked at him twice...
"I still remember when she used to wanta make a lot of noise
Hoppin' and boppin' with the street corner boys
She used to wanna party, she used to wanna go
I knew the bride when she used to rock and roll!"
DJ FourMoney
09-30-09, 21:51
Great stats! Just further encouragement for me to live / date overseas!
Where did you see the encouragement? lol
Do tell...
I suppose that in Canada, since we have legalized gay marriage, other wife could include the husband's transgenered bf
ThatGuy865
10-01-09, 03:13
Married couples in the United States in 2006:
White Wife Black Wife Asian Wife Other Wife
White Husband 50,224,000 117,000 530,000 489,000
Black Husband 286,000 3,965,000 34,000 45,000
Asian Husband 174,000 6,000 2,493,000 13,000
Other Husband 535,000 23,000 41,000 558,000
8.4% of Black Men are married to a non-Black Woman
That's a TINY number, but that has jumped 40% since the last census (2000), should be interesting when the 2010 census numbers become available.
Those numbers from a personal perspective -
Most of the Asians Women married to Black men are product of the Military Industrial Complex :ie Korean, Vietnamese or Philippine. Most of the Black men I know that are married to one of the above have spent time in the US Armed Forces. In general, those from Chinese or Japanese backgrounds are even more less likely to be married to a Black Man.
The 45,000 "Other" Women married to Black Men, I would guess to be mostly Latino which has seen an increase since (especially in California) Blacks and Browns (in the same income bracket) live among each other (ie: South Central Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose, Stockton, Sacramento, Central Valley).I'd say another reason also fewer asians are married to blacks are most blacks like bigger women. Asians are not typically the type of women most blacks guys are attracted to. Most black guys like women with some meat on their bones, big breast, big asses. Of course this is not ALL black guys so I don't want to hear about you know a black with a skinny babe. I'm talking the majority have/like women with meat. Most asian women have no ass, little at best, along with the majority having little boobs.
Thats why you find more black guys flying to Brazil (which is more expensive) than to Asia. Big ole titties and thick ole booties.
I'd say another reason also fewer asians are married to blacks are most blacks like bigger women. Asians are not typically the type of women most blacks guys are attracted to. Most black guys like women with some meat on their bones, big breast, big asses. Of course this is not ALL black guys so I don't want to hear about you know a black with a skinny babe. I'm talking the majority have/like women with meat. Most asian women have no ass, little at best, along with the majority having little boobs.
Thats why you find more black guys flying to Brazil (which is more expensive) than to Asia. Big ole titties and thick ole booties.
Another reason is the perpetual racism against Blacks in the Asian American community as well as in the native countries of the respective Asians in question. Also most Asians tend to "marry up" so to speak. I remember reading about a Chicago based Filipina who reported that marrying white men was a status symbol. LOL
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JAS/is_7_31/ai_89380885/
Another reason is the perpetual racism against Blacks in the Asian American community as well as in the native countries of the respective Asians in question. Also most Asians tend to "marry up" so to speak. I remember reading about a Chicago based Filipina who reported that marrying white men was a status symbol. LOL
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JAS/is_7_31/ai_89380885/
It's real laughable when you see "poo butts" really buying the status symbol image and the person on their arm is a straight looser.
Another reason is the perpetual racism against Blacks in the Asian American community as well as in the native countries of the respective Asians in question. Also most Asians tend to "marry up" so to speak. I remember reading about a Chicago based Filipina who reported that marrying white men was a status symbol. LOL
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JAS/is_7_31/ai_89380885/
Just my 2 pesos.....Yes, there's racism against Blacks by Asians, mainly a result of the negative portrayal of Blacks by Hollywood. If you're a rich Black dude with lots of money to throw around or a Black guy with a good job, you'll have no problem with Asian women and their families, they'll treat you like royalty. Now, if you're a perpetually broke(Black guys need not apply) White Guy the "status symbol" BS will only last a little while. Her Bills need to be paid, her extended family members need to be supported etc. She'll marry you, get her green card, and divorce you soon after.
Chocha Monger
10-02-09, 02:04
Another reason is the perpetual racism against Blacks in the Asian American community as well as in the native countries of the respective Asians in question. Also most Asians tend to "marry up" so to speak. I remember reading about a Chicago based Filipina who reported that marrying white men was a status symbol. LOL
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JAS/is_7_31/ai_89380885/
Warbucks,
Black people may never escape the stain of slavery, genocide, apartheid and oppression brought about by Europeans. Asians are just following in their footsteps. There is evidence that Chinese mixed with Africans long before Europeans showed up on that continent. There exists an ethnic group along the coast of Africa with uncanny Asian looks and a language with roots from Asia. They call themselves "Forgotten People". Today, the Chinese are extracting the natural resources from Africa but they bring their own workers and set up their own towns. The locals receive little to no economic benefit from their presence. The chain of perpetual exploitation continues.
ThatGuy865
10-02-09, 05:03
Warbucks,
Black people may never escape the stain of slavery, genocide, apartheid and oppression brought about by Europeans. I'd have to say I think you are wrong chocha. Sure there will always be those who will retain the prejudice from the past.
But with the spread of the HIP HOP culture, Rap Music, MTV and its affect on the younger generation. You are seeing more and more people of every race embracing Blacks.
There is a segment of young people in every country who dress, walk, talk, and emulate as much of the black culture as they can. They see black as the epitomy of cool and are accepting of blacks.
You see now in Asian countries there are youths are who will walk up to Blacks and try to be cool with the hand shake/hug.
Barak Obama becoming President of the US. Will ultimately sway some that Blacks can be as accomplished as any. While it won't change all, times are definitely changing and Blacks are being accepted in places that they would have never been 20 years ago.
Today, the Chinese are extracting the natural resources from Africa but they bring their own workers and set up their own towns. The locals receive little to no economic benefit from their presence. The chain of perpetual exploitation continues.This has more to do with economics than discrimination. The Chinese exploit their own people. The Chinese are worked like slaves, paid pennies. Are given substandard quarters to live in.
Something that no country would allow them to do to its people, So instead of hiring locals, they exploit their own, Knowing the host country won't complain about human rights conditions as long as its Chinese on Chinese.
If they hired all locals some one would have to be paid off to allow the same conditions. It just makes economic sense.
Warbucks,
Black people may never escape the stain of slavery, genocide, apartheid and oppression brought about by Europeans. Asians are just following in their footsteps. The chain of perpetual exploitation continues.
It's rather entertaining to witness white on black exploitation considering white is a recessive gene and will become extinct within time. Also, cold a*s weather in Europe and North America which requires the skin to be translucent. When they go to a warm climate that sun kicks their a*s and they get skin cancer. But what's funny is that USA schools require Black USA to purchase "skin block / sunscreen" for outdoor activities: We don't have a problem or fear of the sun and non-air conditioned environments. Lastly, the world is Black & Brown, not translucent which makes it an abnormality.
As a youth I found it uncomfortable playing hockey on the pond; exist in a cold climate for 8-months per year; and other USA activities: I was not designed for those conditions 'cause I / my genes are not from Europe.
The stain: Everyone wants, tries, and do jump on the bandwagon of African exploitation in attempts to elevate themselves. It's foolish!
Chocha Monger knows his sh*t!
I'd have to say I think you are wrong chocha. Sure there will always be those who will retain the prejudice from the past.
But with the spread of the HIP HOP culture, Rap Music, MTV and its affect on the younger generation. You are seeing more and more people of every race embracing Blacks.
There is a segment of young people in every country who dress, walk, talk, and emulate as much of the black culture as they can. They see black as the epitomy of cool and are accepting of blacks.
"Acting Black" is fun and cool until the police come; the loan application; the job interview; social mobility; or inter-racial romance.
The media has done more harm to Black USA than good! Show me pictures of Stanley O'Niel,, Frank Raines, a USA Senator, a Fortune 100 President, the Board of Directors; and other areas of true / real advancement.
Black USA have always been the entertainers of USA society since slavery. Shuck and Jive.
The media you mention and those they market are puppets with 0% influence non-approved by the boss. And he finds it profitable and entertaining to witness.
DJ FourMoney
10-02-09, 21:35
The shuck and jive movement has to stop one of these days, its self-defeating.
But true, the media at large believes Black folk only wanna see their successful entertainers and athletes in the limelight and not intelligent people (Cornell West) or even shady but loaded Black folk (ex CEO of Manny Mae or Freddie Mac I don't remember) or powerful Blacks (RIP Sec Ron Brown, murdered?)
As me and my close friend always maintain you want to have to escape the "life" or if nobody wants to help, help yourself. There's no reason for "Chocolate Cities" to be burned out hovels with rampant poverty, crime and poor schools. Of course it doesn't help when the Financial Services Industry targets not only low information Blacks, but Browns, Asians and Whites in the so-called Predatory Sub Prime loan scandal.
I think in the end you might actually see some people go to jail (One can hope anyway).
We are all are lucky people.
Sep 1, 2009 WANG HAO – WORLD NUMBER ONE TABLE TENNIS PLAYER CAN HAVE A GIRLFRIEND
Wang old enough for girlfriend
BEIJING. China'S 25-year-old world number one Wang Hao has finally been deemed old enough to have a girlfriend by Chinese table tennis officials, local media reported on Tuesday.
The men's singles world champion fell foul of the administration's rules on romantic liaisons five years ago when he started going out with fellow national team player Fan Ying.
In a move that dismayed women's rights activists but was perhaps more about their relative world rankings, Wang was not punished but 17-year-old Fan was dismissed from the national team and sent back to her province.
With a world title and two Olympic silver medals under his belt, however, Wang's new relationship with former national champion Peng Luyang has been given the seal of approval by national team manager Huang Biao.
'We never forbid a player having a girlfriend as long as he meets the age requirement, ' Huang told Chengdu Business Daily newspaper.
'As for the relationships between players, we do not advocate them but we do not oppose them either.
'Wang is 26 and Lu is 23. It is normal to have a love affair at this age, ' Huang added, using the traditional Chinese method of calculating age that makes children one year old at birth.
It is possible that table tennis officials, among the most conservative in China's state sports system, now believe a long-term relationship with Peng will prove a stabilising influence on Wang.
Last October, he was offered counselling after an altercation with a karaoke club security guard.
Domestic media, quoting witnesses, said Wang had shouted: 'I am the famous Wang Hao! I am the world champion! Does it matter if I beat you? ' Table tennis officials downplayed that incident saying there had been no brawling and that the story had been amplified because of Wang's celebrity status in table tennis-mad China.
Wang's former girlfriend Fan, who was reduced to tears by her exile from the national team, has since returned and is currently ranked 19th in the world in women's singles..- REUTERS
It's rather entertaining to witness white on black exploitation considering white is a recessive gene and will become extinct within time. Also, cold a*s weather in Europe and North America which requires the skin to be translucent. When they go to a warm climate that sun kicks their a*s and they get skin cancer. But what's funny is that USA schools require Black USA to purchase "skin block / sunscreen" for outdoor activities: We don't have a problem or fear of the sun and non-air conditioned environments. Lastly, the world is Black & Brown, not translucent which makes it an abnormality.
As a youth I found it uncomfortable playing hockey on the pond; exist in a cold climate for 8-months per year; and other USA activities: I was not designed for those conditions 'cause I / my genes are not from Europe.
The stain: Everyone wants, tries, and do jump on the bandwagon of African exploitation in attempts to elevate themselves. It's foolish!
Chocha Monger knows his sh*t!
"Acting Black" is fun and cool until the police come; the loan application; the job interview; social mobility; or inter-racial romance.
The media has done more harm to Black USA than good! Show me pictures of Stanley O'Niel,, Frank Raines, a USA Senator, a Fortune 100 President, the Board of Directors; and other areas of true / real advancement.
Black USA have always been the entertainers of USA society since slavery. Shuck and Jive.
The media you mention and those they market are puppets with 0% influence non-approved by the boss. And he finds it profitable and entertaining to witness.
ThatGuy865
10-03-09, 02:41
The shuck and jive movement has to stop one of these days, its self-defeating.
But true, the media at large believes Black folk only wanna see their successful entertainers and athletes in the limelight and not intelligent people.We are seeing more and more Blacks on every level of society ... Entertainers and Educated.
Supreme Court justice Clarence thomas . The Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders. Secretary of State Condelessa Rice and Colin Powell ... Now The Head of the Republican party ... Michael Steel.....Attorney General Eric Holder... And of course President Barak Obama ... So don't tell me Blacks are not seen in serious Roles. ... Oprah Winfrey the richest woman in america .... The former CEO of Time warner Richard Parsons ... I could go on for days ...
The days of ONLY seeing Blacks as shuckin and jivin is OVER.
I only mention HIP Hop because entertainers influence and affect the young more than the educated. How many people tried to dress like rock stars back in the day with bell botoms. Those styles weren't started by the head of IBM. People copied the hairstyles of the beatles not walter cronkite.
For blacks it was James Brown/The jackson 5/ Sly and the family stone.
When you imitate someones style it then becomes harder for you to discriminate against them and that is the point. Not whether the style is cool or not. But who is influencing young people (white and Black).
Its blacks. Not white entertainers. Which is different then like in the 60's and 70's. Whites didn't emulate James brown, the jackson 5, Sly and the family stone. But now they are very much imitating Black rappers/hip hop artist. And this isn't just in the US but world wide. You can see koreans with their baseball caps cocked to the side, Thais, pinoy, europeans. And who are they imitating Black Americans.
Should this thread be renamed to "Racism" or "Hip Hop in the land of the free and the home of the brave"?
Is it that bad now that there are no American women left in America to discuss?:)
Should this thread be renamed to "Racism" or "Hip Hop in the land of the free and the home of the brave"?
Is it that bad now that there are no American women left in America to discuss?:)
But when a topic or theme presents itself it must run its cycle. It's only been a few days of this topic which does and did revolve around women- Interracial Dating, and its environment!
Write something of value if you want to discuss AW!
DJ FourMoney
10-05-09, 07:53
Should this thread be renamed to "Racism" or "Hip Hop in the land of the free and the home of the brave"?
Is it that bad now that there are no American women left in America to discuss?:)
Well what would you like to hear some other non-surprising shocking shit?
Cougartown is a hit for ABC, shouldn't surprise anybody (just like Housewives). I think this is actually a Dawin moment...
Men 30-50 want women 10-20 years younger than them, leaving women 30-50 puzzled and offended. Women 16-30 want to date somebody within 2-5 years of their own age. Younger men, 18-28 are finding younger women not worth the trouble and consider Cougars because as we all know ourselves, older women generally play fewer games.
The only problem is, the women we generally want (10-20 years younger) feel we're too old (expectations?), especially if you don't have 6 or 7 digits following your name.
This leads back to square one - HERE
So I just put my head down and work my shitty job where my hours have been cut and I've been forced to push back all travel plans (even the ones to TJ) until further notice.
Well what would you like to hear some other non-surprising shocking shit?
Cougartown is a hit for ABC, shouldn't surprise anybody (just like Housewives). I think this is actually a Dawin moment...
Men 30-50 want women 10-20 years younger than them, leaving women 30-50 puzzled and offended. Women 16-30 want to date somebody within 2-5 years of their own age. Younger men, 18-28 are finding younger women not worth the trouble and consider Cougars because as we all know ourselves, older women generally play fewer games.
The only problem is, the women we generally want (10-20 years younger) feel we're too old (expectations?), especially if you don't have 6 or 7 digits following your name.
This leads back to square one - HERE
So I just put my head down and work my shitty job where my hours have been cut and I've been forced to push back all travel plans (even the ones to TJ) until further notice.Yeah here sucks big time. But it seems that many guys give up and put up with whats available. I recently heard about another guy whom I met few years ago, he lives now with a much older woman. I think he is in his late 30s, good looking cool guy, and she's about 10 years older. And she does not look pretty at all, also overweight. Its not about money, she got a regular job at a university. Incredible stuff. On the other hand I now live with a chick, who is 8 year younger than me, but I feel she's too old and got bored of her. My friends tell me to shut up and stop complaining, that I should feel lucky I got this shit in USA. That's the problem here, if you have a girl then you (and not her) must be lucky. Can't wait to go back to South America.
DJ, why don't you travel somewhere (Tijuana/Panama/Colombia) for a weekend?
DJ, LOL....sounds like you have created a rather unsolvable Rubik's Cube.
Of course, if women were even remotely logical, there might be a chance to figure it out
I've been reading this thread and are AW really that bad? What makes them so bad versus the Latin Americans, for example?
You have all of that easy p*ssy for some beers, weed, or whatever and it still sucks? Wow.
I f*ck hoes from 18 to 80, blind, cripple, and crazy!
I've been reading this thread and are AW really that bad? What makes them so bad versus the Latin Americans, for example?
You have all of that easy p*ssy for some beers, weed, or whatever and it still sucks? Wow.
I f*ck hoes from 18 to 80, blind, cripple, and crazy!
No they are not bad they just don’t find some guys on ISG all that appealing so in return they lash out here. A lot of us are divorced from American women.
I don’t know what’s the overall gripe on this thread. They don’t put out? (If they did we would call them hoes). They are fat? (There is a fine 27 year old sister (Black American Female) that is in the gym every night right along Warbucks where I work. They are ugly? (Nope US woman hail from all over.)
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Women all over the world are the same the only difference is the dividends.
Women from rich nations have simply put a premium on the pussy. If you saw the type of expats I see running around Manila with girls on their arm then you would know what the fuck I am talking about.
"Women all over the world are the same"
I don't know how many places you've been but I disagree this is the case. My mother used to tell me when I was growing up, "People are the same everywhere." Except, she'd never been anywhere. It's not true. Dude, you were in the Middle East, right? You really think those people are the same? You think a woman who's brainwashed into wearing a burqa is the same as a European chick topless on a beach in southern Spain? You think the Quechua-speaking people of the Andes are quite similar to some farm girl from Iowa?
Get real.
Globe Spinner
10-06-09, 20:39
i've been reading this thread and are aw really that bad? what makes them so bad versus the latin americans, for example? a couple of generations of womens' rights has created the problem. take alleged [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases in the usa for example. it doen't matter if the guy did it or not, he goes to prison until he forgets what his d**k is for. don't dare complement a female co-worker on her appearance.- sexual harrassment. at least in asia, women are raised by their mothers to be women. no wonder so many guys go out of country to hook up with women. the old adage about american women is so true, "they control half the money and all the pu**y".
"Women all over the world are the same"It's an old discussion, of course they are different, as well as men.
An interesting example. I have one friend in Russia. he is sick of Russian women. He tells me they are often spoiled and not as fun as some more ethnic women from Central Asia and Africa. He said that he is done with Russian women. He's girlfriend is African and he even considers moving to Madagascar to her hometown.
This guy is sick of easily available Russian girls, then would would he say about AW.
Bango Cheito
10-06-09, 22:24
Women ARE the same everywhere. And they aren't. Everything has an influence, and an invididual is still an individual, and that trumps everything.
There are similarities between women the world over and there are also profound cultural differences.
ThatGuy865
10-07-09, 01:16
Meat loaf its all about the guy. There are millions of guys happy with AW. Otherwise the planes would be packed with guys flying out of the country to meet other women.
Think of all the millions of military guys who have been stationed in some of the biggest mongering locations (Philippines/Thailand during Vietnam war/ all over europe/ Asia). Yet very few travel outside of america to seek out foreign women, and instead marry and are happy with AW.
Its mostly (not all, so guys so write, I'm not in that category) guys who have a hard time meeting women/been burnt by a women either thru marriage or in a relationship and are bitter have this "AW ain't no good mentality".
generally, black people do not care if a black woman dates, marries, or bears children with a white guy! if she's an oreo or fake, then black people will dislike her and she'll look for solace with white people. she'll be trying so hard to "act white" that white people will be entertained and not fearful, while black people will recognize another oreo. black people don't care about the offspring 'cause the kids will be black by legal default. in contrast, whitey cares about black / white offspring 'cause their white genes / skin color and hair is lost forever. the prejudice that they (ie. white people) survive under and perpetuate will be directed towards their children's child and the white people know how bad / tough / burden it is to be black usa.
using hollywood icons as a litmus for interracial dating is fraudulent. in addition, all of the aforementioned actresses are of light or mixed breed with lighting and make-up.
on the other hand, a black usa guy who dates white girls is looked upon negatively mainly because the white girl is "trailer trash" and he's giving the money / financial mobility to the white man bypassing black people. sure the kids will be black by legal default, but they will be immersed in white man's land with the white girl, who knows 0% about oppression, being the trustee. also, black males dating white females after the 500 year legacy of lynching, sodomy, castration, etcetera lends bad feelings to those that would choose / encourage this behaivor.
white usa already doesn't want black usa to gain success or mobility and if it is acquired to reward a white girl with access is the black usa paradigm. again, the black male usually marries down (ie. trailer trash) although he too is from the black trailer park (ie. housing projects.)
black usa already knows about the subjugation of black males since the slavery days. divide the family with black male usa financial / occupational inferiority and he will become dislocated while she assume "single parent" status helping to enstill another generation of black family instability which leads to social ills and lack of social mobility. everyone knows this! hence, we understand the phenomenon, but with usa commercialization this fact is being repackaged under the guise that social mobility is available to everyone void race. example: professional athletics, o'bama, hollywood entertainment. in contrast, how many fortune 500 ceos are black usa; us federal government politicians; and other real advancements in the social structure.
in conclusion, black women know the game and only those that desire to be oreos or lacking in self-pride get confused. trying to be oreo looses white respect from the one's you are attempting to impress. and when you're not present, they continue laughing at you as do your black peers.
finding your peer group depends on your geographical location as well!
meatman i agree with some of your points. i think you hit the nail on the head with the whole gene thing. genetic annihilation. white man +non white woman = non white child. keep that up long enough and there would eventually be no white people left .
so sure a white dude may "date" i.e . fuck a non white woman but marrying her and having kids that are not white goes against survival of the white "race". now when you take into account that whites are less than 10 percent of the world's population and that black gene have the strongest potentail to erase whiteness, i can understand why whiteman/black woman unions aren't too popular. this also explains whole bunch of other things....
thing is most people dont' really understand the "game" but are willing participants in a systems designed to keep them in a perpetual state of confusion. in other words , because of the "system" the entire worlds non white population have varying degrees of self hatred and desire to be like the dominant minority.
they are victims.and have been conditioned to be that way. but you sound like you have run across some "neely" codes or some "welsing" papers so i don't need to preach to you :)
We are seeing more and more Blacks on every level of society ... Entertainers and Educated.
Supreme Court justice Clarence thomas . The Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders. Secretary of State Condelessa Rice and Colin Powell ... Now The Head of the Republican party ... Michael Steel.....Attorney General Eric Holder... And of course President Barak Obama ... So don't tell me Blacks are not seen in serious Roles. ... Oprah Winfrey the richest woman in america .... The former CEO of Time warner Richard Parsons ... I could go on for days ...
The days of ONLY seeing Blacks as shuckin and jivin is OVER.
I only mention HIP Hop because entertainers influence and affect the young more than the educated. How many people tried to dress like rock stars back in the day with bell botoms. Those styles weren't started by the head of IBM. People copied the hairstyles of the beatles not walter cronkite.
For blacks it was James Brown/The jackson 5/ Sly and the family stone.
When you imitate someones style it then becomes harder for you to discriminate against them and that is the point. Not whether the style is cool or not. But who is influencing young people (white and Black).
Its blacks. Not white entertainers. Which is different then like in the 60's and 70's. Whites didn't emulate James brown, the jackson 5, Sly and the family stone. But now they are very much imitating Black rappers/hip hop artist. And this isn't just in the US but world wide. You can see koreans with their baseball caps cocked to the side, Thais, pinoy, europeans. And who are they imitating Black Americans.
Imitation does not equate to racial acceptance. It never has and it never will. Blacks have been ALLOWED to progress in entertainment or centuries. Our style has been imitated and copied throughout that time. And you know what? It hasn't done a damn thing to eliminate racism. And why should it? If all you ever see blacks in are entertainment (shucking and jiving) what message do you think that sends?
Lets see.... a white guy build bridges, creates laws, cures diseases,and that black dude over there sure can rock that propellor hat! Cmon "brother" ryhm for me like 50 Cents! Do that "Usher" dance. Nigga please!
DJ FourMoney
10-07-09, 08:55
Miss Govenator is hosting a look at AW. Among the topics is how AW view us and how we view them, this should be interesting.
I don't think we'll be shocked by what's said, but it should provide new fodder for the site in any event.
Chocha Monger
10-07-09, 09:23
Imitation does not equate to racial acceptance. It never has and it never will. Blacks have been ALLOW to progress in entertainment or centuries. Our style has been imitated and cooped throughout that time. And you know what it hasn't done a damn thing to eliminate racism. And why should it? If all you ever see blacks in are entertainment (shucking and jiving) what message do you think that sends?
Lets see a white guy build bridges, creates laws, cures diseases,and that black dude sure can rock that propellor hat! Cmon "brother" rythm for me like 50 Cents! Do that "Usher" dance. Nigga please!
Quite true! White actors did "black face" and imitated black people. It didn't contribute to their advancement it just further disseminated and perpetuated stereotypes.
DJ FourMoney
10-07-09, 09:32
Imitation does not equate to racial acceptance. It never has and it never will. Blacks have been ALLOW to progress in entertainment or centuries. Our style has been imitated and cooped throughout that time. And you know what it hasn't done a damn thing to eliminate racism. And why should it? If all you ever see blacks in are entertainment (shucking and jiving) what message do you think that sends?
Lets see a white guy build bridges, creates laws, cures diseases,and that black dude sure can rock that propellor hat! Cmon "brother" rythm for me like 50 Cents! Do that "Usher" dance. Nigga please!
The main reason why Obama was elected by a majority of the country's population which is still mostly White is because Obama is non-threatening and tried to distance himself from the natural discussions about race.
Now when he's been forced to comment, look what happens = Skip Gates Cop was an idiot, Kanye West is a Jack Hat (which maybe true, but that's call "evening the score")
People outside the Beltway and on Main Street view what happen as clearly disrespectful if not borderline racist (Skip Gates) which flies directly into the face of this so-called "Post Racial" America some in the media have had to back away from as light is being shown on things like Sub Prime Lending, True Rates of Unemployment/Underemployment and some of the imagery from the "Tea Bagger/Brither" Movement.
As I've said before, not any Brotha could have run for President, GWB is proof just about any White Guy with money can run and could win.
I couldn't agree more, the imagine of Obama alone does WONDERS, now any black boy or black girl or bi-racial child for that matter believe they can be President.
Blacks are attending college in record numbers, but even as more join the middle class and upper middle class, they still have less than a 1/3 of the overall wealth of middle class Whites because they don't have what I call legacy wealth.
I'm a product of working class grandparents on both sides, college educated parents so what do I know - Middle Class
That's not to say some of my extended family hasn't ventured off into illegal drug use, prostitution, even one of my cousin's having an affair with a teacher in high school when she was only 16-17 here self and guess where my cousin Sean came from....
But also among my extended family is singer Wilson Pickette and 3 others (including my grandfather) that have played professional sports, even the NFL.
Imagery is a powerful message
PS -
Why haven't I gone to TJ, I'm broke man! I can't even afford the $28 RT bus ride and a $20 Street Girl screw!
Besides that's a long way to travel for $20-25 of service in a dingy shack of a hotel room and not even full nudity unless you bargain for it ahead of time.
"women all over the world are the same"
i don't know how many places you've been but i disagree this is the case. my mother used to tell me when i was growing up, "people are the same everywhere." except, she'd never been anywhere. it's not true. dude, you were in the middle east, right? you really think those people are the same? you think a woman who's brainwashed into wearing a burqa is the same as a european chick topless on a beach in southern spain? you think the quechua-speaking people of the andes are quite similar to some farm girl from iowa?
get real.
true!
no they are not bad they just don’t find some guys on isg all that appealing so in return they lash out here. a lot of us are divorced from american women.
i don’t know what’s the overall gripe on this thread. they don’t put out? (if they did we would call them hoes). they are fat? (there is a fine 27 year old sister (black american female) that is in the gym every night right along warbucks where i work. they are ugly? (nope us woman hail from all over.)
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women all over the world are the same the only difference is the dividends.
women from rich nations have simply put a premium on the pussy. if you saw the type of expats i see running around manila with girls on their arm then you would know what the fuck i am talking about.
true!
a couple of generations of womens' rights has created the problem. take alleged [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases in the usa for example. it doen't matter if the guy did it or not, he goes to prison until he forgets what his d**k is for. don't dare complement a female co-worker on her appearance.- sexual harrassment. at least in asia, women are raised by their mothers to be women. no wonder so many guys go out of country to hook up with women. the old adage about american women is so true, "they control half the money and all the pu**y".
true, and "cock block" men looking for female approval don't help either.
its mostly (not all, so guys so write, i'm not in that category) guys who have a hard time meeting women/been burnt by a women either thru marriage or in a relationship and are bitter have this "aw ain't no good mentality".
true!
In one sense, I have found that all women are the same. They crave attention like a drug, and they crave status like a drug. For the most part, men don't seem terribly worried about what they drive or where they live on their own, they are usually pushed by the woman to have the bigger car/house/boat etc. which fuels the female desire for status. Certainly, any stroll thru a mall where at least 90% of the stores are female-oriented shows how important this status and spending is to women
Where there comes in with AWs compared to other women around the world gets back to the local definition of status. In NA, women simply do not need men to get what they want, they have a good enough job, or, having cleaned some guy out, can live on that. In fact, I would argue in some parts of NA, having a guy reduces the status of a woman, the "I can do it myself" syndrome, so popular with the Oprahphiles, has the effect (certainly where I live), of producing women who are more than happy to be on their own.
Elsewhere in the world, at least where I have visited, a man can be a big status symbol. For a poor paisa from the hood, a strata 2-3 girl, having a gringo that can take her to Poblado, or on a holiday, is an enormous status upgrade. The 'look at me, I am as good as you, you strata 6 bytch', may or may not be true from our perspective, but I think is very real in Colombia. And reading posts on this site from guys who have travelled elsewhere (such as Ghana), indicates the level of status attained by a local girl being chaperoned by a (even relatively) wealthy NA male.
This craving of attention by women, I truly believe, is a worldwide thing, and may simply be hardwired into women from day one.
Gentleman Travel
10-07-09, 21:02
i agree with most of what you say here, but would twist it a little.
traditionally, a woman gets her status from her man.
this you will all know from reading your jane austen and anthony trollope novels.
so it is essential for a woman to date and mate within her peer group, or "up" if possible.
the actual form status takes is variable depending upon the time and place and rank in society, but all societies have status structures and women naturally gravitate to the highest they can acheive.
and in some (many) socieities having a mate is the most fundamental status symbol possible. in industrial societies that may mean a man with certain wealth or position, but in developing socieities any man is better than none. it even works down at the lowest level - short-term for pay. a bar-girl in the phillipines or help disco in rio will preen when she snags a client for the night, because she is one up on her peers, at least for the next few hours. she got picked and they did not.
so a teenage girl is happy to have a boyfriend because it keeps her up with, or ahead of, her peers. teenagers boys have girlfriends because they want to have sex, and teenage girls have sex because they want to have a boyfriend. as she grows her idea of what constitutes a high-status mate will change, but a girl without one is ... a "spinster". that is a pretty bleak word, compared with "bachelor", isn't it?
traditionally, a woman without a husband is nothing - a burden on her parents. a failure.
that is different now in western society, but much less than it appears.
true, many women wear their "singleness" as a badge of independence - they "don't need a man". but mostly they feel the lack over time and come around to wanting that all-important status symbol (and usually provider of comforts), albeit often too late in life to be anything but pathetic. so that's a bit of a problem for us guys, because the female mating instinct has been a fundamental force of nature for thousands of years, up until about 20 years ago. it will, however, be self-correcting as western women (and many western men) fail to reproduce and asian or whatever women and values rise in their place.
now most men want mates too (many members of this group excepted) but i don't think that is so much about status as sex and home comforts.
the thing i disagree with is about cars. guys do want status cars and have a pretty clear idea of what that means in their world (my idea of a status car may be quite different than yours).
if think women's ideas of status from cars is quite derivative - it comes from the men in her mate's peer-group.
actually, she couldn't give a shit about the car except that it proves her man has a bigger stick-shift than the next guy.
in one sense, i have found that all women are the same. they crave attention like a drug, and they crave status like a drug. for the most part, men don't seem terribly worried about what they drive or where they live on their own, they are usually pushed by the woman to have the bigger car/house/boat etc. which fuels the female desire for status. certainly, any stroll thru a mall where at least 90% of the stores are female-oriented shows how important this status and spending is to women
where there comes in with aws compared to other women around the world gets back to the local definition of status. in na, women simply do not need men to get what they want, they have a good enough job, or, having cleaned some guy out, can live on that. in fact, i would argue in some parts of na, having a guy reduces the status of a woman, the "i can do it myself" syndrome, so popular with the oprahphiles, has the effect (certainly where i live), of producing women who are more than happy to be on their own.
elsewhere in the world, at least where i have visited, a man can be a big status symbol. for a poor paisa from the hood, a strata 2-3 girl, having a gringo that can take her to poblado, or on a holiday, is an enormous status upgrade. the 'look at me, i am as good as you, you strata 6 bytch', may or may not be true from our perspective, but i think is very real in colombia. and reading posts on this site from guys who have travelled elsewhere (such as ghana), indicates the level of status attained by a local girl being chaperoned by a (even relatively) wealthy na male.
this craving of attention by women, i truly believe, is a worldwide thing, and may simply be hardwired into women from day one.
Member #4537
10-07-09, 21:24
i think you also need to mention women from wealthy families and capitalist classes in 3rd-world countries. here in egypt, we have to deal with the same aw idealogies from the high end girls -- a porsche cayyenne driving, starbucks drinking and prada handbag wearing "high class" girl makes me yearn for the traditional type who can cook, clean and fuck.
i agree with most of what you say here, but would twist it a little.
traditionally, a woman gets her status from her man.
this you will all know from reading your jane austen and anthony trollope novels.
so it is essential for a woman to date and mate within her peer group, or "up" if possible.
the actual form status takes is variable depending upon the time and place and rank in society, but all societies have status structures and women naturally gravitate to the highest they can acheive.
and in some (many) socieities having a mate is the most fundamental status symbol possible. in industrial societies that may mean a man with certain wealth or position, but in developing socieities any man is better than none. it even works down at the lowest level - short-term for pay. a bar-girl in the phillipines or help disco in rio will preen when she snags a client for the night, because she is one up on her peers, at least for the next few hours. she got picked and they did not.
so a teenage girl is happy to have a boyfriend because it keeps her up with, or ahead of, her peers. teenagers have sex because the boy wants to have sex, and the girl wants to have a boyfriend. as she grows her idea of what constitutes a high-status mate will change, but a girl without one is ... a "spinster". that is a pretty bleak word, compared with "bachelor", isn't it?
traditionally, a woman without a husband is nothing - a burden on her parents. a failure.
that is different now in western society, but much less than it appears.
true, many women wear their "singleness" as a badge of independence - they "don't need a man". but mostly they feel the lack over time and come around to wanting that all-important status symbol (and usually provider of comforts), albeit often too late in life to be anything but pathetic. so that's a bit of a ***** for us guys, because the female mating instinct has been a fundamental force of nature for thousands of years, up until about 20 years ago. it will, however, be self-correcting as western women (and many western men) fail to reproduce and asian or whatever women and values rise in their place.
now most men want mates too (many members of this group excepted) but i don't think that is so much about status as sex and home comforts.
the thing i disagree with is about cars. guys do want status cars and have a pretty clear idea of what that means in their world (my idea of a status car may be quite different than yours). if think women's ideas of status from cars is quite derivative - it comes from the men in her mate's peer-group. actually, she couldn't give a shit about the car except that it proves her man has a bigger stick-shift than the next guy.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13506427
Chocha Monger
10-07-09, 23:26
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13506427
She had a big smile in her mug shot. She must be confident that she'll get off with a slap on the wrist. The part about him being forced to be an old man taking care of her kids was really funny. By the way which of the illegal cracks were you referring to since there are clearly two of them?
NOW, a radical feminist organization, is after David Letterman's ass. They're crying about what a hard time women are having in the workplace. They don't seem to notice all the men who got shit canned in this economy though.
I was referring to the meth. I know meth ain't crack but it's crack enough for me. I hear meth is easier to kick, though. They didn't say it in the article but it sounds like she was his dad's girlfriend. What a fucking puta.
ThatGuy865
10-08-09, 02:42
Imitation does not equate to racial acceptance. It never has and it never will. Blacks have been ALLOWED to progress in entertainment or centuries. Our style has been imitated and copied throughout that time. And you know what? It hasn't done a damn thing to eliminate racism. And why should it? If all you ever see blacks in are entertainment (shucking and jiving) what message do you think that sends?
Lets see.... a white guy build bridges, creates laws, cures diseases,and that black dude over there sure can rock that propellor hat! Cmon "brother" ryhm for me like 50 Cents! Do that "Usher" dance. Nigga please!You are about as wrong as they come. As I stated before you can never erase total Racism. But in 1960 a black person in half the country couldn't eat in the same restaurant as a white person.
Today we have a BLACK President. I hope you don't think it was Blacks who put him there. When blacks on make about 12% of the total population. There majority of people who voted for him were WHITE.
So Nigga Please. Wise up Blacks are creating Laws. Can I say CLARENCE THOMAS. Curing Dieases. Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders. Maybe you need to try opening a book and wake up. This aint the 60's anymore.
You are about as wrong as they come. As I stated before you can never erase total Racism. But in 1960 a black person in half the country couldn't eat in the same restaurant as a white person.
Today we have a BLACK President. I hope you don't think it was Blacks who put him there. When blacks on make about 12% of the total population. There majority of people who voted for him were WHITE.
So Nigga Please. Wise up Blacks are creating Laws. Can I say CLARENCE THOMAS. Curing Dieases. Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders. Maybe you need to try opening a book and wake up. This aint the 60's anymore.
White guilt or reparations on the cheap is what the O'Bama election is / was all about! Remember, that most white people are only 2 - 3 generations deep in the USA. They were loosers / victims in Europe for the most part and when they arrived to the USA they changed their names and assumed their role / protected class. Their entire existance in the USA has been one of separation, but they are so happy to be in the USA 'cause at home they were some loosers / victims. (Of course, loosers and winners both came / come to the USA, but those that immigrate do so 'cause they can't SURVIVE in their home country. World immigration patterns.)
For the most part, everyone Black in the USA has been here since before the 1780s when the USA made it illegal to import Blacks. Instead, we were bred, just like "Jimmie the Greek" said, for the next 200 years. Still today, they don't allow that many Africans or non-white Latinos into the country: Most Latinos in the USA are Mexican due to the border and commerce. So we're not some newbie to the USA and have been the captives, literally. It's in the USA Constitution.
Hearing about the wrongs of the USA for 500 years has white people say, "I didn't do anything to Black USA; why should I pay. I just got here to ride the backs of Black USA labour for 500 years. I just came here to live in the protected class. Why all of this racial talk?" So they want to escape / erase the pain of Black USA for 500 years: They don't want to pay reparations 'cause they were "hand free," but existence within the protected class makes their hands dirty. O'Bama is simply a "wetnap" and not soap and water.
The average public school textbook talks about USA slavery and aparthied within a few pages, and Europe on every other page within the book!
Instead, they elect O'Bama.
It doesn't matter that the power base of politics and voters is white and therefore they control his actions. As with all organizations, he is the "front man."
White people think that things have changed a lot since the 1960s, but not really. Black USA still aint happy and we're not going to rejoice for finally getting access to what we built and should have held possession of for 500 years. This scares white people- militantism- and they attempt to silence race 'cause of fear. Ignore it and it will go away syndrome!
Until the USA really discusses African Slavery and "come correct" this will never go away. Giving 3,000 Black USA jobs on television, music, movies , sports is not going to suffice. NCAA scholarships for sports with 2 hours of film; 2 hours of weights; and 2 hours of practice for a "scholarship" with a high dropout rate and booster-generating incomes is not going to suffice. We want equitable treatment, not exploitation: We're not even asking for be given something for nothing, although we built and earned it. Instead we're "asking" for EQUAL TREATMENT / ACCESS within our country. It doesn't matter that we fought the wars of the USA for the benefit of white people within the USA and for future arrivals from Europe.
Nobody knows the USA better than Black USA, except Native Americans with a Census Number, which is why Michelle O'Bama made the statement about "For the first time in my adult life..." We understand / know that the USA says one thing, and treats Black USA the polar opposite.
Now, when they assassinate O'Bama, Black USA will say, "that's just how white people are." It will not surprise us one bit. It will set back race relations 50 - 100 years. There may / may not be riots, but the destruction will occur in Black USA neighborhoods providing the opportunity for re-gentrification over the next 20 years. The government will convict someone / anyone for justice / closure, probably a Black USA as to ease the racial war.
Same old stuff: We've seen this for 500 years!
Back to American Women, okay.
Gentleman Travel
10-08-09, 16:28
Why haven't I gone to TJ, I'm broke man! I can't even afford the $28 RT bus ride and a $20 Street Girl screw!
Besides that's a long way to travel for $20-25 of service in a dingy shack of a hotel room and not even full nudity unless you bargain for it ahead of time.
Now DJ, we have always gotten along and agreed on many things, but I have got to say, this is just pathetic!
I mean how can you be looking for a serious relationship on the international market if you can't even afford a bus fare to the cheapest pussy in the western hemisphere?
By American standards I'm a looser. I don't make a killing at work, I live at home and I drive a car somebody in their early 20's should be driving. I'll be the first to admit I'm not in a position to support anybody but myself and even that's a stretch.
You are 39, live at home, collect unemployment insurance, yet you pretend that you are searching the world for the perferct bride?
And your criteria are:
- inter-racial (used to be Eastern European or German women, maybe you have recalibrated for South American/Latin?)
- 10 years or so younger than you
- no baggage from an earlier relationship (kids)
Well, DJ I hate to break it to you, this is not a recipe for success!
We can argue about how mercenary (or not) AW are and whether women anywhere else are any different.
But no woman remotely matching your description mind would contemplate such a match.
A woman does not have to be a mercenary b*tch to want her man to be employed and independent.
And anyone is going to want a good reason to step across racial and national frontiers.
And women who go for older men are looking for stabilty, status and maturity.
Yes Seal can have Heidi Klum, but he brings a lot to the table.
You don't, so you can't.
But at least you don't have to worry about women with kids, they are looking for a provider, and will back away when they see they are going to have to support you as well!
Now there are lots of different kinds of guys here, with different demographics and different wealth profiles from the guys who think that spending a grand on a top model PSE is a reasonable price for an evening of fun, to guys who have to watch their budget because over-paying kills you on volume mongering - and there is room for all of them. But if you can't afford a dinner date, or a bus fare or $20 pussy, then you really cannot be in the game at all.
I don't post here much but, I must agree. DJ, time for you to get up, get out and get something. I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but she ain't f**kin with no broke.
Just my 2 cents.
RR
Loaf wrote: "Most Latinos in the USA are Mexican due to the border and commerce."
Or perhaps because México has the highest population of any Spanish speaking country, more than twice the population of any other Spanish speaking country? Is there any possibility that factors in?
Every two or three days you post something about how highly educated you are but your facts are normally shit, your spelling and grammar are poor, and I'm unimpressed. For example, 1808 is the correct date for the prohibition of importing African slaves to the US. Similarly it is now 2009 and subtracting 500 years from that gives you 1509 so you are off by at least 100 years or over 25% on how long all y'all have been exploited, at least in the Yew Ess.
Now, let's get back on topic. I'll start. Previously DJ4 was criticized, justifiably in my opinion, for having unreasonable expectations. I just talked to my niece who cancelled her wedding last year at the last minute and is now "hopelessly single," to use her term. So, I asked her what her requirements were.
1) Six-figure salary was the first thing she mentioned. Her work history is spotty and she's never made anywhere near that amount of money. She said, "Anyone my age who's not making that kind of money is probably a loser and I've been with enough of those." Gee, I wonder why.
2) At least six inches taller than she is. She is 5'2" so that only eliminates maybe 25% but why does that matter? I told her to look for guys who are taller lying down. She didn't get it.
3) Within 2-3 years of her own age. She is 40.
4) No kids. This puzzles me since she has one, an ill-behaved bastard spoiled brat sissy kid who would be of no interest to most men.
5) White, because "I'm not racist but a lot of other people still are."
And, of course, she's 30-40 pounds overweight and is looking for someone who can "overlook" that.
Member #4167
10-09-09, 03:05
1) Six-figure salary was the first thing she mentioned. Her work history is spotty and she's never made anywhere near that amount of money. She said, "Anyone my age who's not making that kind of money is probably a loser and I've been with enough of those." Gee, I wonder why.
2) At least six inches taller than she is. She is 5'2" so that only eliminates maybe 25% but why does that matter? I told her to look for guys who are taller lying down. She didn't get it.
3) Within 2-3 years of her own age. She is 40.
4) No kids. This puzzles me since she has one, an ill-behaved bastard spoiled brat sissy kid who would be of no interest to most men.
5) White, because "I'm not racist but a lot of other people still are."
And, of course, she's 30-40 pounds overweight and is looking for someone who can "overlook" that.I agree with you, Senor Dickhead. American Women's expectations are out of whack.
You forgot to add her 6th criteria:
6) "And, despite my being 30-40 pounds overweight and past my prime, he will worship the ground I walk on, and treat me like a royal queen"
Remember, that Fat Ass Roseanne Barr (of the TV Show Roseanne) considered herself to be a "Domestic Goddess "
Dickhead, I am totally confused. That was the extent of your niece's laundry list? Where is the Maserati? the Porsche? the every 3 months trips around the world? the (at least) 3 languages spoken? the PH.D's (at least two)? the 4,000 sq ft house?
OMG, your niece doesn't ask for anything!
maserati would be an issue because she has wrecked several cars and gave up her license five years or so ago. she does have a motorbike only license now and that is how she gets around but is limited to i think it is 125 cc or something like that. my dear sister is a very good driver, perhaps the best in the family, but of her three kids, one never learned to drive (male) and the other two (females) are notorious for borrowing cars and crashing them. my middle niece who is 43 has lost her license a couple of times, has one now, but no one will let her drive unless it's absolutely necessary. and we are not talking duis here. we are talking hitting parking meters and parked cars and in particular rear-ending people at stoplights. it's pretty hard to lose your license without getting speeding tickets or duis but my nieces managed to do so.
But if you can't afford a dinner date, or a bus fare or $20 pussy, then you really cannot be in the game at all.
Regarding DJ's impecuniousness, I don't think we can assume that he need be hard up just because he is broke. Plenty of guys with nothing can get women, even live off women. How or why? I'm not sure but I think they have a knack for it. Heck look at the pimp-men that most of our service-providers support.
I have known Western guys in Pattaya who lived off (or at least partially off) their Thai prostitute girlfriends. It definitely can be done. Anyway my point is that while it is in general true that we must bring money and status to the table, it is far from universal.
I will beat your ass!.....Fyaak YU!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rm4SazjKsQ&feature=player_embedded
After watching this I will be glad when I am sitting in ah GO GO in ah few weeks LOL.
I like it when you correct / put me in place!
Chocha Monger
10-09-09, 16:19
Playing step-daddy is one of the thankless jobs that often come with American women. I don't know why any guy would do that because the woman pretty much makes it clear that he will be second place to the kids in his own house while he earns the bacon (or Loaf would say, pulls caballo).
Imagine having to step-daddy a kid like this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MA0eW8yyw
Playing step-daddy is one of the thankless jobs that often come with American women. I don't know why any guy would do that because the woman pretty much makes it clear that he will be second place to the kids in his own house while he earns the bacon...
Friend of mine nearly had his house burned down by the neighbor who started a fire in my friend's yard and vandalized stuff, a 6-year-old little shit (supposedly too young to be arrested). Lives with his mom, and step-dad in his house. He is too chickenshit to do anything about it, your typical American hen-pecked pussy. Afraid of both the shitty-mom/wife (who is a fat shrew) and the little demon-seed. If I were the poor schmuck, they would have been kicked out immediately. On second thought I would never have been in that step-crap situation to begin with. But I'm sure there are laws protecting the freeloaders from being ousted. Of course.
Globe Spinner
10-09-09, 23:26
Playing step-daddy is one of the thankless jobs that often come with American women. I don't know why any guy would do that because the woman pretty much makes it clear that he will be second place to the kids in his own house while he earns the bacon (or Loaf would say, pulls caballo).
Only time I've seen it work is when the guy actually likes the kid more than the mom. Some guys like being dads.
Chocha Monger
10-09-09, 23:57
Damn! You mongers certainly don’t play around. You guys really tore DJ FourMoney a new asshole! Well, you told the truth though. DJ is unlikely to see pussy anytime soon unless he improves his economic situation. DJ’s prospects in the regular unemployment market doesn’t look all that good so his best hope may be to follow the paradigm set forth by Opebo. He will need to learn the art of pimping and breaking hoes. I don’t know how readily available this information is but he needs to start scouring the internet for some pimping manuals. He should also seriously consider seeking out the tutelage of a successful pimp. Some time ago I posted the average income of a pimp on this board. I think DJ needs to go back and take a look at that. DJ likes white hoes and I think that is good because according to most pimps black girls make bad hoes. They’re much too strong willed and opinionated for the profession. So he would be looking to pimp white, Asian and Hispanic hoes. DJ seems to be a nice guy and he will need to leave this persona behind if he is to succeed in pimping. As a pimp he will need to break his hoes from time to time and maybe even fuck up a few out of line johns in the course of doing business.
He needs to get a move on this quickly because right now he can’t even get a poke at cheap Mexican street pussy, much less the other white meat that he craves. I noticed that he hasn’t responded to the tough love meted out by his fellow mongers but I hope that he understands that they only have his best interests in mind.
DJ FourMoney
10-10-09, 08:29
I can take the criticism....
I'm working on it, that's all I can say. I'll be debt free soon.
I collect unemployment because I can... I still work, albeit not as many hours as I did 6 months ago. In fact because of an injury at work, my hours have increased recently.
Its a dead end job, I knew it when I took it (gotta love Superchicken quotes). I'll be returning to school soon.
I just might make it down to TJ in a week or so.
I never said I was leading the life of success and I'm not bothering women really at this time, I'm just holding station.
DJ FourMoney
10-10-09, 08:30
Damn! You mongers certainly don’t play around. You guys really tore DJ FourMoney a new asshole! Well, you told the truth though. DJ is unlikely to see pussy anytime soon unless he improves his economic situation. DJ’s prospects in the regular unemployment market doesn’t look all that good so his best hope may be to follow the paradigm set forth by Opebo. He will need to learn the art of pimping and breaking hoes. I don’t know how readily available this information is but he needs to start scouring the internet for some pimping manuals. He should also seriously consider seeking out the tutelage of a successful pimp. Some time ago I posted the average income of a pimp on this board. I think DJ needs to go back and take a look at that. DJ likes white hoes and I think that is good because according to most pimps black girls make bad hoes. They’re much too strong willed and opinionated for the profession. So he would be looking to pimp white, Asian and Hispanic hoes. DJ seems to be a nice guy and he will need to leave this persona behind if he is to succeed in pimping. As a pimp he will need to break his hoes from time to time and maybe even fuck up a few out of line johns in the course of doing business.
He needs to get a move on this quickly because right now he can’t even get a poke at cheap Mexican street pussy, much less the other white meat that he craves. I noticed that he hasn’t responded to the tough love meted out by his fellow mongers but I hope that he understands that they only have his best interests in mind.
I just saw it. :) I don't mind tough love, at least somebody cares....
Chocha Monger
10-11-09, 00:11
I can take the criticism....
I'm working on it, that's all I can say. I'll be debt free soon.
I collect unemployment because I can... I still work, albeit not as many hours as I did 6 months ago. In fact because of an injury at work, my hours have increased recently.
Its a dead end job, I knew it when I took it (gotta love Superchicken quotes). I'll be returning to school soon.
I just might make it down to TJ in a week or so.
I never said I was leading the life of success and I'm not bothering women really at this time, I'm just holding station.
DJ,
It's good to know that your situation is not as dire as it seemed in your post. Anyway, you should still consider Opebo's suggestion for career development.
Playing step-daddy is one of the thankless jobs that often come with American women. I don't know why any guy would do that because the woman pretty much makes it clear that he will be second place to the kids in his own house while he earns the bacon (or Loaf would say, pulls caballo).
Imagine having to step-daddy a kid like this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MA0eW8yyw
It's worse with these Latinas 'cause they all have kids by the time you de-baord the plane. You play "step daddy" and 0% rights / access to the kids. It's a waste of time and money, and you do come after the child(ren.)
That's fool's gold: Why a guy would date and worse, marry a broad with kid(s) just for some p*ssy access is a fool.
Expound upon this topic, Chocha Monger.
I can take the criticism....
I'm working on it, that's all I can say. I'll be debt free soon.
I collect unemployment because I can... I still work, albeit not as many hours as I did 6 months ago. In fact because of an injury at work, my hours have increased recently.
Its a dead end job, I knew it when I took it (gotta love Superchicken quotes). I'll be returning to school soon.
I just might make it down to TJ in a week or so.
I never said I was leading the life of success and I'm not bothering women really at this time, I'm just holding station.
Amigo,
Don't worry too much about having a job versus unemployment insurance. Sometimes it is simply better to stay out of the labour market, collect your money, and decide when you're ready to re-enter the rat race.
Keep it up!
Hey DJ, hope your employment situation improves. Here's a funny divorce latter...............
Letter to Husband from wife......
Dear Husband:
I'm writing you this letter to tell you that I'm leaving you forever. I've been a good wife to you for 7 years & I have nothing to show for it & these last 2 weeks have been hell.
Your boss called to tell me that you quit your job today & that was the last straw.
Last week, you came home & didn't even notice I had a new hairdo, had cooked your favorite food, cleaned the house, and even wore my brand new sexy lingerie.
You ate in 2 minutes, & went straight to sleep after watching your favorite sports show.
You don't tell me you love me anymore; you don't want sex or anything that connects us as husband & wife. Either you're cheating on me or you don't love me anymore, whichever! Whatever the case is, I'm gone.
Your EX-wife
P.S. Don't try to find me. Your HALF BROTHER & I are moving away to West Virginia together! Have a great life!
Letter to Wife from Husband....
Dear Ex-WIFE
Nothing has made my day more than receiving your letter.
It's true you & I have been married for 7 years, although a good WIFE is a far cry from what you've been.
I watch my Sports shows so much because they drown out your constant whining & bitching. Too bad that doesn't work.
I DID notice when you got a hairdo last week, but the 1st thing that came to mind was 'You look just like a MAN! Since my mother raised me not to say anything if you can't say something nice, I didn't comment.
And when you cooked my favorite meal, you must have gotten me confused with MY HALF BROTHER, because I stopped eating pork 7 years ago.
About the new lingerie: I turned away from you because the $49.99 price tag was still on them, I prayed it was a coincidence that my half brother had just borrowed $50 from me that morning.
After all of this, I still loved you & felt we could work it out.
So when I hit the lotto for 10 million dollars, I quit my job & bought us 2 tickets to Jamaica but when I got home you were gone.
Everything happens for a reason, I guess.....
I hope you have the fulfilling life you always wanted. My lawyer said that the letter you wrote ensures you won't get a dime from me.
So take care.
Signed, Your Ex-Husband, Rich As Hell & Free!
P.S. I don't know if I ever told you this, but my Half Brother was born Penelope. I hope that's not a problem.
Oh Ya Papi
10-11-09, 17:54
I was gettin my hair cut and we were talkin international, Colombia, Peru, and then on to Costa Rica where her father has now retired, she then told me" theres alot of prostitution ther, thats not good."
What! I didn't respond
Man if you want to have a philosophical convo its about hoes.
They all have strong opinions but don't know or have experienced shit!
Gene simmons, that has slept with over 10, 000 chicks, sez that they are most honest and real, its a transaction agreed and followed thru. As we all know.
Stupid religieon, and culture contorts their view. And.
Well consenting adults having sex is good, not bad or sin (don't believe)
Anyways please view this the best video about the subject and post your response, esp. Meatloaf! Jajajaja mi amigo!
http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/127511/detail/
Its penn and tellers bullshit video of prostitution.
Hellya!
Chocha Monger
10-11-09, 21:56
It's worse with these Latinas 'cause they all have kids by the time you de-baord the plane. You play "step daddy" and 0% rights / access to the kids. It's a waste of time and money, and you do come after the child(ren.)
That's fool's gold: Why a guy would date and worse, marry a broad with kid(s) just for some p*ssy access is a fool.
Expound upon this topic, Chocha Monger.
Meat Loaf, being a step-daddy entails a lot of risks and little reward. Some of the things you will encounter as a step-daddy are:
1. The single mother may pressure you to adopt the children. The reason she will give for this is that she wants them to have your last name for aesthetic purposes. The true motive is far more insidious. She may be getting little or no support payments from the biological father. You, on the other hand, may present better prospects for financial support. Adopting the children will legally bind you making you liable for child support payments in the event of a divorce. As long as you do not adopt those children the biological father is still on the hook for child support payments. The courts will recognize your right to walk away from those kids without liability in the event that you divorce their mother. She knows this and that is why she wants you to adopt so that she can have residual income after you leave.
2. Children routinely use social service workers against their parents. They know that all it takes is one false accusation to bring their parents in line with their demands. As a biological parent you will be looked upon with suspicion but there will have to be evidence that you did something to endanger the welfare of your biological offspring. There is the assumption that blood relatives are less likely to cause harm to each other. As a step-daddy you will not have this protection. You will be seen as an outsider, a usurper, and assumed to be guilty until proven otherwise.
3. After spending your resources to raise the kids they are not likely to return the favor in your old age because the lack of blood bonds may mean that they feel no obligation to do so.
4. The kids will not respect you. They will resent that you’re a strange man in “their” house boning their mother and they will try to get you to leave. Since you are not their father they will not feel the need to follow your instructions. Be prepared to hear, “You’re not my father. You can’t tell me what to do!” The children are the kings and queens of the castle and you’re just a peasant.
5. Women do not like divorced men or men with children. They consider them poor financial prospects. Check online dating profiles and you will see that many women indicate this. Why should a man see divorced women or single mommies any differently?
DJ FourMoney
10-12-09, 03:59
Amigo,
Don't worry too much about having a job versus unemployment insurance. Sometimes it is simply better to stay out of the labour market, collect your money, and decide when you're ready to re-enter the rat race.
Keep it up!
Its funny you mention that, I might just opt out of it.
I get more in UI anyway than I have been getting lately (if I just got UI only), but combined with my paycheck its a bit closer to what I got when I was getting 30-32 hr at week.
Congress is going to pass another extension of benefits, fuck it huh?
DJ FourMoney
10-12-09, 04:15
Meat Loaf, being a step-daddy entails a lot of risks and little reward. Some of the things you will encounter as a step-daddy are:
1. The single mother may pressure you to adopt the children. The reason she will give for this is that she wants them to have your last name for aesthetic purposes. The true motive is far more insidious. She may be getting little or no support payments from the biological father. You, on the other hand, may present better prospects for financial support. Adopting the children will legally bind you making you liable for child support payments in the event of a divorce. As long as you do not adopt those children the biological father is still on the hook for child support payments. The courts will recognize your right to walk away from those kids without liability in the event that you divorce their mother. She knows this and that is why she wants you to adopt so that she can have residual income after you leave.
2. Children routinely use social service workers against their parents. They know that all it takes is one false accusation to bring their parents in line with their demands. As a biological parent you will be looked upon with suspicion but there will have to be evidence that you did something to endanger the welfare of your biological offspring. There is the assumption that blood relatives are less likely to cause harm to each other. As a step-daddy you will not have this protection. You will be seen as an outsider, a usurper, and assumed to be guilty until proven otherwise.
3. After spending your resources to raise the kids they are not likely to return the favor in your old age because the lack of blood bonds may mean that they feel no obligation to do so.
4. The kids will not respect you. They will resent that you’re a strange man in “their” house boning their mother and they will try to get you to leave. Since you are not their father they will not feel the need to follow your instructions. Be prepared to hear, “You’re not my father. You can’t tell me what to do!” The children are the kings and queens of the castle and you’re just a peasant.
5. Women do not like divorced men or men with children. They consider them poor financial prospects. Check online dating profiles and you will see that many women indicate this. Why should a man see divorced women or single mommies any differently?
I couldn't agree more with your break down...
The reason why many men overlook single mothers/divorced mothers is because getting pussy in America is such diffcult task for many men that its an acceptable situation. I say BULLSHIT! Get out and "Get Involved", if your in SoCal, NM, AZ or TX, you can hit Mexico. If your on the east coast, you can jet down to Costa Rica.
I don't understand why Men in America let women control sex as they do. It makes no sense and they are slow to learn.
Meat Loaf, being a step-daddy entails a lot of risks and little reward. Some of the things you will encounter as a step-daddy are:
1. The single mother may pressure you to adopt the children. The reason she will give for this is that she wants them to have your last name for aesthetic purposes. The true motive is far more insidious. She may be getting little or no support payments from the biological father. You, on the other hand, may present better prospects for financial support. Adopting the children will legally bind you making you liable for child support payments in the event of a divorce. As long as you do not adopt those children the biological father is still on the hook for child support payments. The courts will recognize your right to walk away from those kids without liability in the event that you divorce their mother. She knows this and that is why she wants you to adopt so that she can have residual income after you leave.
2. Children routinely use social service workers against their parents. They know that all it takes is one false accusation to bring their parents in line with their demands. As a biological parent you will be looked upon with suspicion but there will have to be evidence that you did something to endanger the welfare of your biological offspring. There is the assumption that blood relatives are less likely to cause harm to each other. As a step-daddy you will not have this protection. You will be seen as an outsider, a usurper, and assumed to be guilty until proven otherwise.
3. After spending your resources to raise the kids they are not likely to return the favor in your old age because the lack of blood bonds may mean that they feel no obligation to do so.
4. The kids will not respect you. They will resent that you’re a strange man in “their” house boning their mother and they will try to get you to leave. Since you are not their father they will not feel the need to follow your instructions. Be prepared to hear, “You’re not my father. You can’t tell me what to do!” The children are the kings and queens of the castle and you’re just a peasant.
5. Women do not like divorced men or men with children. They consider them poor financial prospects. Check online dating profiles and you will see that many women indicate this. Why should a man see divorced women or single mommies any differently?
1. Why even get married? Guys are suckers and get pressured by her so that they can have access to p*ssy.
2. That is the social perception with the USA. In Latin America, they are much less government control (ie. legislation; court actions; government officials) all up in your business.
3. True. In fact, USA biological children and parents rarely support one another in old age. This is why we have "old folks homes."
3A. Don't forget about the expenses of education paid for by the step-daddy including private primary and secondary schooling, university, and other expenses.
5. I don't see these hoes any different. In fact, I find people divorced bad prospects in the fact they "break contracts"- the marriage contract.
Its funny you mention that, I might just opt out of it.
I get more in UI anyway than I have been getting lately (if I just got UI only), but combined with my paycheck its a bit closer to what I got when I was getting 30-32 hr at week.
Congress is going to pass another extension of benefits, fuck it huh?
I remember when Hillary Clinton did the same in 2003 - 2004. It lasted for nine (9) months.
Don't be a fool: Keep getting that free check that they require your employer pay into (ie. Unemployment Insurance Compensation.)
Just look in the phone book and call 2 - 3 businesses. Ask them if they are hiring. They will tell you now. Write down the person's name and the company's information. Transfer this information into your unemployment book. And you will be in compliance with the unemployment office / check requirements of looking for a job!
F*ck it, hey!
More bad "facts" by Meat Loaf. Each state has different job search requirements. In fact, in my former state you must make one contact IN PERSON each week. And, the number of required contacts varies depending on the field you're in, how long you've been on the dole, and the unemployment rate in the state.
More bad "facts" by Meat Loaf. Each state has different job search requirements. In fact, in my former state you must make one contact IN PERSON each week. And, the number of required contacts varies depending on the field you're in, how long you've been on the dole, and the unemployment rate in the state.
I was using generalizations!
It's not even an accurate generalization but it might be useful to identify your generalizations as such. Another concept would be to stick to subjects you actually know something about. That's a personal weakness of yours. I think it's called hubris.
It's not even an accurate generalization but it might be useful to identify your generalizations as such. Another concept would be to stick to subjects you actually know something about. That's a personal weakness of yours. I think it's called hubris.
I know most things and therefore can comment!
Sometimes I wonder if your name "Dickhead" refers to your lower member or your personality.
DJ FourMoney
10-13-09, 13:10
I know most things and therefore can comment!
Sometimes I wonder if your name "Dickhead" refers to your lower member or your personality.
Well I plan on reducing my hours down again once my co-worker returns to work or they hire somebody else if they can't afford to wait that long. I'm going to wind down my time here. I got 18 payments left on the car and will make a bulk payment around income tax time. With that I'll be able to finish paying it by year's end 2010.
I'm going to check and see if my training (400hrs) qualifies so I can continue to get payments.
Once the car is paid off, I'll be able to travel more...
The ingenious term (and life style chosen by many don’t know why) coined by Meat Loaf describes when someone becomes the financial slave or burden bearer of a in-house dead beat spouse and rug rats but it usually involves the man pulling the “Caballo” so what happens when the roles reverse?
Sitting in my office picked up the daily edition of Stars and Stripes Military Newspaper glanced at the Dear Abby Column after the sports page and this is what I saw:
http://www.uexpress.com/printable/print.html?uc_full_date=20091012&uc_comic=da
WIFE RESENTS MAN'S FAILURE TO PICK UP SLACK AT HOME
DEAR ABBY: The other day my kids asked me why I'm always so angry. I didn't know how to respond. I'm angry that they think their dad is "wonderful" because he plays with them all day (he's not working), takes them to get fast food (instead of cooking something healthy), and because he's their coach (he is having an emotional affair with one of the parents).
I assign chores to the kids because things never get done when I ask my husband to do them. If I remind them "It's trash day" or "Don't forget to vacuum the living room," my husband steps in and says, "I'll do it for you, Billy/Jane," which makes me the bad guy. I know if I ask for a divorce, the kids will want to live with him.
How do I explain this to them? And what do I tell my friends when they ask what a pretty, fit, successful woman like me is doing with an overweight, unemployed, lazy man like him? He's more personable than I am, but the stress of being the sole breadwinner has taken its toll on me. -- NEEDING ANSWERS, LEVITTOWN, PA.
Dear Abby's Answer
DEAR NEEDING ANSWERS: You're overwhelmed right now, and with the load you're carrying, it's no wonder. You, your husband and the children are overdue for a frank sit-down chat.
It would not be out of line to tell them that the reason you appear to be angry is you are doing it all -- carrying the load financially and being the responsible parent. It would also not be out of line to let them know that every member of the family is expected to do their part, which is why you have assigned them chores -- because Dad is too busy coaching to remember to do it.
As to the fast-food diet, your husband is doing the children -- and himself -- no favors, and he is setting a terrible example.
Now, about your friends: Be honest. Tell them that you married your husband because you loved him at the time, and you are sticking with it because if you dump him, you may wind up supporting him anyway.
DJ FourMoney
10-15-09, 03:39
The ingenious term (and life style chosen by many don’t know why) coined by Meat Loaf describes when someone becomes the financial slave or burden bearer of a in-house dead beat spouse and rug rats but it usually involves the man pulling the “Caballo” so what happens when the roles reverse?
Sitting in my office picked up the daily edition of Stars and Stripes Military Newspaper glanced at the Dear Abby Column after the sports page and this is what I saw:
http://www.uexpress.com/printable/print.html?uc_full_date=20091012&uc_comic=da
WIFE RESENTS MAN'S FAILURE TO PICK UP SLACK AT HOME
DEAR ABBY: The other day my kids asked me why I'm always so angry. I didn't know how to respond. I'm angry that they think their dad is "wonderful" because he plays with them all day (he's not working), takes them to get fast food (instead of cooking something healthy), and because he's their coach (he is having an emotional affair with one of the parents).
I assign chores to the kids because things never get done when I ask my husband to do them. If I remind them "It's trash day" or "Don't forget to vacuum the living room," my husband steps in and says, "I'll do it for you, Billy/Jane," which makes me the bad guy. I know if I ask for a divorce, the kids will want to live with him.
How do I explain this to them? And what do I tell my friends when they ask what a pretty, fit, successful woman like me is doing with an overweight, unemployed, lazy man like him? He's more personable than I am, but the stress of being the sole breadwinner has taken its toll on me. -- NEEDING ANSWERS, LEVITTOWN, PA.
Dear Abby's Answer
DEAR NEEDING ANSWERS: You're overwhelmed right now, and with the load you're carrying, it's no wonder. You, your husband and the children are overdue for a frank sit-down chat.
It would not be out of line to tell them that the reason you appear to be angry is you are doing it all -- carrying the load financially and being the responsible parent. It would also not be out of line to let them know that every member of the family is expected to do their part, which is why you have assigned them chores -- because Dad is too busy coaching to remember to do it.
As to the fast-food diet, your husband is doing the children -- and himself -- no favors, and he is setting a terrible example.
Now, about your friends: Be honest. Tell them that you married your husband because you loved him at the time, and you are sticking with it because if you dump him, you may wind up supporting him anyway.
Since the meltdown or as I call it - The excuse to reduce the workforce to combat deceasing demand; the side effect of "supply side economics". The unemployment numbers are not correct and low estimates at best. Many of the positions used to be held by men. When you see stock footage of video from the local EDD office, its usually men and men of color in line.
So many men are taking on the rolls usually held by women. This roll reversal is just about to hit critical mass. Our social structure is built to make a man feel worthless if he isn't earning the most (Breadwinner) money and its suppose to be emasculating to be unemployed/home watching the kids.
Women are still complaining the playing field is not equal. Its not, but now that its law that you can't underpay women for the same work as men, I guess that its far more level that it was 10 years ago.
Men usually find this off period to find something creative to do, doing projects you always wanted to do. But the relentless pace of working 40 hours or more in America just didn't allow, especially when you have a wife and kids to share time with.
This woman thinks he's worthless because he's not working, but that's not true. He's spending meaningful time with the children (something she's not doing because she's the breadwinner now), he's coaching the local youth sports team (which one of his children is a member of). That's community service, he's doing plenty of "good".
This is clearly another example of men being viewed in America as almost worthless.
And dudes in America want to date Single Mothers - Amazing
Gentleman Travel
10-16-09, 15:10
So many men are taking on the rolls usually held by women. This roll reversal is just about to hit critical mass. Our social structure is built to make a man feel worthless if he isn't earning the most (Breadwinner) money and its suppose to be emasculating to be unemployed/home watching the kids.
That is a dynamic that is going to continue to play out and accellerate over the next decade. First with more women graduating from university/college, thus being more eligible for higher paying white collar work, then compounded with the decline of good paying blue collar jobs, will leave a lot of men as the second-income provider in relationships, which is a dramatic role reversal in historical terms.
It will wreak havoc with all kinds of relationships and make it much more difficult for couples to match up (women will still be seeking higher income, higher status mates, who will become a smaller group, and lower income men will be reluctant to enter into relationships as an inferior provider). It is a recipe for social and societal disaster. But inevitable.
Nice for the guys at the top of the food chain, though - lots of successful women competing for them. Skilled tradesmen should do okay also, but factory workers and unskilled workers are going to feel the pain.
DJ FourMoney
10-17-09, 10:05
That is a dynamic that is going to continue to play out and accellerate over the next decade. First with more women graduating from university/college, thus being more eligible for higher paying white collar work, then compounded with the decline of good paying blue collar jobs, will leave a lot of men as the second-income provider in relationships, which is a dramatic role reversal in historical terms.
It will wreak havoc with all kinds of relationships and make it much more difficult for couples to match up (women will still be seeking higher income, higher status mates, who will become a smaller group, and lower income men will be reluctant to enter into relationships as an inferior provider). It is a recipe for social and societal disaster. But inevitable.
Nice for the guys at the top of the food chain, though - lots of successful women competing for them. Skilled tradesmen should do okay also, but factory workers and unskilled workers are going to feel the pain.
Of course combine that with the slow burn in the US economy, where Wall St is hailed (No diss to the Investment Bankers among us) but Main St saw another record job lost and a record homes foreclosed on (again).
I am not concerned about the roll reversal, I'm fairly sure my long term partner or wife will not come to this country and I might not stay either and go somewhere where I get value for my tax dollars, not endless war and corp welfare.
Those who don't plan now and make the right decision(s) are going to suffer...
Chocha Monger
10-17-09, 19:49
That is a dynamic that is going to continue to play out and accellerate over the next decade. First with more women graduating from university/college, thus being more eligible for higher paying white collar work, then compounded with the decline of good paying blue collar jobs, will leave a lot of men as the second-income provider in relationships, which is a dramatic role reversal in historical terms.
It will wreak havoc with all kinds of relationships and make it much more difficult for couples to match up (women will still be seeking higher income, higher status mates, who will become a smaller group, and lower income men will be reluctant to enter into relationships as an inferior provider). It is a recipe for social and societal disaster. But inevitable.
Nice for the guys at the top of the food chain, though - lots of successful women competing for them. Skilled tradesmen should do okay also, but factory workers and unskilled workers are going to feel the pain.
Sounds like a recipe for increased mongering opportunities in the US for foreigners from countries with strong stable currencies. Buying brothel stocks may be a good thing. There are still foreigners who want to screw American women just to check it off their list. I guess they've seen too many American made porn flicks.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10251696/ESPN%27s-Phillips-on-leave-amid-bizarre-sex-scandal
Be sure to divide the value of the house he pissed away by the number of times he fucked her. $666,667 per jump if my math is correct. Seems a bit excessive.
DJ FourMoney
10-22-09, 00:02
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10251696/ESPN%27s-Phillips-on-leave-amid-bizarre-sex-scandal
Be sure to divide the value of the house he pissed away by the number of times he fucked her. $666,667 per jump if my math is correct. Seems a bit excessive.
I'm still trying to figure out WHY powerful men get married when they don't have too?
Look at P.Diddy -
Never married the mother of his first child, Kim Porter. Yet he's managed to have another child with her between boyfriends... He even took custody of one of his "half" sons.
He was banging J.Lo and when she kept demanding they get married, he said no and she went to find somebody that wanted to get married (Marc Anthony).
He has custody of three of the four children he is a father of, paying far less in child support to prop up these women.
He's banging whom ever he wants it seems, he stole a hot Canadian model from her Canadian DJ boyfriend. He's banging as many hot UK chicks with a taste for Chocolate as the UK football players have, we follow this on a certain IR site I'm on.
Kid Rasta is on it too :)
Hmm the only bump in the road is Steve McNair, it costed him his life....
Chocha Monger
10-22-09, 00:17
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10251696/ESPN%27s-Phillips-on-leave-amid-bizarre-sex-scandal
Be sure to divide the value of the house he pissed away by the number of times he fucked her. $666,667 per jump if my math is correct. Seems a bit excessive.
Dickhead:
Have some sympathy man! The poor guy fucked Gobo from Fraggle Rock and now he's going to pay for it big time. According to her she stalked his wife and kid then exposed him because she really cared about his happiness. Oh yeah, I bet he's really happy now. Anyway, he brought it on himself. Fucking women you work with is pretty much suicide in America. http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/10/21/2009-10-21_steve_phillips_espn_analyst_and_former_mets_general_manager_rocked_by_affair_gon.html
Yeah, I know. You're not supposed to fuck the women where you work. Well, given the average US life style, isn't that where you are going to meet the majority of those few women you do meet? I've fucked a bunch of co-workers and it never cost me my job but I fucked my boss at one job and that did pretty much cost me the job. But it was just some job, not a career or anything. One restaurant I worked in had a shower and I used to fuck the prep cook in the shower on ten minute breaks. Now it takes me ten minutes just to get my dick out of my pants. I worked for the post office and I had sex in apartment house mailrooms and in the vehicles with a co-worker (and a couple of times with hookers too) and that was dangerous but we had a union so maybe we'd get suspended or something. Had sex with a dozen or fifteen co-workers over the years. Part of the problem now is all this evidence like cell phone records and e-mail. Burn all evidence.
I'm still trying to figure out WHY powerful men get married when they don't have too?
That's my first reaction too!
Fucking women you work with is pretty much suicide in America. http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/10/21/2009-10-21_steve_phillips_espn_analyst_and_former_mets_general_manager_rocked_by_affair_gon.html
at least 30% of all relationships / marriages are created via co-workers and work-associates.
DJ FourMoney
10-22-09, 02:43
at least 30% of all relationships / marriages are created viaco-workers and work-associates.
I wonder how many of those 30% of marriages end up in the 80% divorced by the 5th year of marriage?
That number should be amazing to people, but they just don't understand the gravity of it.
8 out of 10 marriages FAIL....
Many people have children inside those first 5 years. That's why you have a majority of women over 25 have at least ONE child and a high number of women under 25 have at least 1 child. I haven't even gotten to those over 30 (Career Women) or those statistics from teenage pregnancy.
Lawd this is crazy
Gentleman Travel
10-22-09, 16:31
Yeah, I know. You're not supposed to fuck the women where you work. Well, given the average US life style, isn't that where you are going to meet the majority of those few women you do meet? I've fucked a bunch of co-workers and it never cost me my job but I fucked my boss at one job and that did pretty much cost me the job.
This is the problem, isn't it?
People have always met at work (well, since women began to work), or at high school or college - I mean how many people marry people met in bars?
But now many of these matchmaking venues are out of bounds, or at least hazardous. Men used to have affairs with, or marry their secretaries. Maybe sometimes it was exploitive, but mostly it was just a woman's respect and desire for a powerful man and a man's desire for a submissive and helpful woman - i.e. human nature. Now it is a crime. Even when there is no clear power relationship it is hazardous.
So now the most common place to meet your prospective partner is at college or through mutual friends. The problem with that is it mean the women and men are all exactly the same age, whereas a more natural (and historical) age difference of 5 or more years would be desirable.
And then at college, many women used to date professors - again a pretty natural thing, choosing a mentor and father-figure for romance and maybe their first sexual experience. Now a minefield and sure way to get fired and sued and ruined for any professor.
Back in the day when I was in the corporate world, I saw enough of it, but was never even tempted to get a phone number. It seemed the man would always lose in the end, no matter what happened or who initiated it. This was back in the early 90's especially, when the male was to blame for all the happened (still hasn't changed, I guess)
I remember one guy, he was messing around with a female boss of another department, and he was just some accounting clerk or something, but was called on the carpet for not showing the proper sensitivity or respect or whatever the hell it was. I remember because after the incident, all the guys in the office (including me) were hauled down for a 2 day 'sensitivity training', where we were instructed that no matter what the circumstances, or who initiated it or whatever, the man was to be deemed at fault, and would have to resign. Absolute bull$hit, but that seems to be how it is
...i remember because after the incident, all the guys in the office (including me) were hauled down for a 2 day 'sensitivity training', where we were instructed that no matter what the circumstances, or who initiated it or whatever, the man was to be deemed at fault, and would have to resign. absolute bull$hit, but that seems to be how it is
so true. all this "sensitivity/sex harrassment/diversity training" is radical feminist bullshit that has taken over academia (where do you think these "trainers" come from, armed with their "research"?) and as a result the workplace. men are demonized as always being the problem no matter what the facts are, no matter that all were willing and no one was coerced in any way. even if the man is the subordinate or they are peers/equals, that will not save him.
Chocha Monger
10-23-09, 01:02
Are any of you guy's trying harder? A recent study suggests that men try harder at pleasing their American wife if she makes money that they do. Trying harder = Licking a whole lot of pussy and doing lots of housework
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33421800/ns/health-sexual_health/
I remember attempting to talk to females on the streets of a major USA city and one-time this broad said I was "sexually harassing" here. Isn't that a workplace activity and doesn't it involve a power differential? Since when is talking to a female on the street "sexual harassment"?
B*tches are Stupid!
Chocha Monger
10-23-09, 23:44
I remember attempting to talk to females on the streets of a major USA city and one-time this broad said I was "sexually harassing" here. Isn't that a workplace activity and doesn't it involve a power differential? Since when is talking to a female on the street "sexual harassment"?
B*tches are Stupid!
Loaf:
You should know better than to fuck with scary hoes in the U.S. As far as they're concerned just looking at them is sexual harassment. The only exception is when they want you to buy them drinks at a bar. Even then they'll try to break you, take the free drinks and then make some lame ass excuse as to why they can't continue conversation. Fuck 'em, I tell those hoes to buy me a drink first and then maybe I might reciprocate. I ain't got no time for broke ass fake hoes.
I like to lick pussy and I enjoy doing most forms of housework other than ironing. Some alpha woman wants me, I am available for $100k per year but I will still fuck around with Latinas and Asians. She can fuck whomever she wants, too. For $100k she can fuck the entire Bolivian Navy for all I care. She can even be ugly as long as she ain't fat or out of shape, and has good hygiene. Ugly can be sexy too. I'll cook three great meals a day, do all the shopping, clean the place, and be ready to fuck when she gets home. She should have a nice wine cellar and some designer dope, ideally.
CM, so, based on your rather blunt commentary, I am to assume that you just ain't enraptured by the look and smell of the typical AW?
Bango Cheito
10-25-09, 02:59
I like to lick pussy and I enjoy doing most forms of housework other than ironing. Some alpha woman wants me, I am available for $100k per year but I will still fuck around with Latinas and Asians. She can fuck whomever she wants, too. For $100k she can fuck the entire Bolivian Navy for all I care. She can even be ugly as long as she ain't fat or out of shape, and has good hygiene. Ugly can be sexy too. I'll cook three great meals a day, do all the shopping, clean the place, and be ready to fuck when she gets home. She should have a nice wine cellar and some designer dope, ideally.
How long have you been waiting for a taker? ahahahah
10-23-09 CRS
I like to lick pussy and I enjoy doing most forms of housework other than ironing. Some alpha woman wants me, I am available for $100k per year but I will still fuck around with Latinas and Asians. She can fuck whomever she wants, too. For $100k she can fuck the entire Bolivian Navy for all I care. She can even be ugly as long as she ain't fat or out of shape, and has good hygiene. Ugly can be sexy too. I'll cook three great meals a day, do all the shopping, clean the place, and be ready to fuck when she gets home. She should have a nice wine cellar and some designer dope, ideally.They have a name for guys like you "Cucks or Cuckold". I love giving it to married gals especially hot ones in their late twenties to late thirties that are in great shape. In the past I have sent quite a few home with a full load of my spunk up their pus$y.
10-23-09 CRSThey have a name for guys like you "Cucks or Cuckold". I love giving it to married gals especially hot ones in their late twenties to late thirties that are in great shape. In the past I have sent quite a few home with a full load of my spunk up their pus$y.
And the name for you is "banana."
I ain't got no time for broke ass fake hoes.
You know that's right!
These looser a*s hoes that think they're about something when they aint got sh*t, but a whole bunch of wants and debt.
I'll cook three great meals a day, do all the shopping, clean the place, and be ready to fuck when she gets home.
I knew a fat Mexican-American girl who had a Black USA "house husband" earning Social Security disability at age 35. She required that he f*ck her when she got home from work. What she didn't like was him f*cking crackhead prostititutes, swingers, and anybody else during her work hours. It turned out that she started going to the swinger's club in search of some attention. She should run a hostel for all the "house husbands / boyfriends" she brings into the home.
Did I mention that she has two (2) kids for the "house boyfriend" to nanny?
Chocha Monger
10-25-09, 16:18
CM, so, based on your rather blunt commentary, I am to assume that you just ain't enraptured by the look and smell of the typical AW?
Many of them actually look and smell just fine. The problem is the deep and lasting post-coital remorse that results from fucking them. Therefore I choose to appreciate their aesthetic qualities from a detached point of view. It's sort of like being able appreciate the style, color and equipment that comes with a particular model of car while, at the same time, having no interest whatsoever in driving one.
And the name for you is "banana."Dickhead.
Cuckboy if you PM me with your address or your girls number, I will have have all spunked up when she comes home to you. I know you will enjoy cleaning her up. Im not flaming you, but some guys like yourself gets into it. I just loves MILF, the ones that keeps themselves in shape and hygenically clean.
I like MILFs too but leave the brats at home.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more...KP?photo_num=11
Bear in mind this is the second great job this douche bag has lost in this fashion. OMG. If you're going to fuck up your marriage and lose your house, at least do it over someone who doesn't look like a munchkin. Like Wilbur Mills did.
I like to lick pussy and I enjoy doing most forms of housework other than ironing. Some alpha woman wants me, I am available for $100k per year but I will still fuck around with Latinas and Asians. She can fuck whomever she wants, too. For $100k she can fuck the entire Bolivian Navy for all I care. She can even be ugly as long as she ain't fat or out of shape, and has good hygiene. Ugly can be sexy too. I'll cook three great meals a day, do all the shopping, clean the place, and be ready to fuck when she gets home. She should have a nice wine cellar and some designer dope, ideally.
Dickhead, Will you marry me? That's a hell of a lot better deal than what my current GF is offering.
Just kidding -- I could never put up with the designer dope.
Starchild2012
11-11-09, 04:15
Ohh man...its time to wake up....Does anyone know here that womens right, feminism and liberation were actually funded and created by the rocker fellers.
American women or all women in general are not bad AT ALL....its lot more deeper than that, the elite want to suppress the female energy for their own gains.
The future is by design not by chance.
Please watch this youtube clip of Aaron Russo to know how America is run by PURE EVIL and chanelled through rockerfeller et all...I'm going to request a separate thread called American Men, cos i find them responsible for most of the world problems now a days :)
http://www.youtube.com/v/YIaLwlA4JEk
http://www.youtube.com/v/7nD7dbkkBIA
Chocha Monger
11-11-09, 18:41
Of those who found themselves wincing at Silda Spitzer as she stood by her cheating husband, then-New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, were many people who've felt the sting of adultery. A University of Chicago study found that 25% of all marriages are affected by adultery. If a spouse divorces a cheater, can she or he get more of the marital assets? Maybe.
While all's fair in love and war, that's not necessarily so in divorce court.
"In California, adultery doesn't make a bit of difference in division of property. . . . Judges don't get into it. Often, people are very disappointed to hear that," said Nordin Blacker, the president of the Northern California Chapter of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers. However, not all is lost.
"You can put yourself in a better position and bargain for more-favorable terms if you know how to go about it," said Ruth Houston, the author of "Is He Cheating on You? 829 Telltale Signs."
Here are seven steps for negotiating a better settlement:
Do your homework
"Don't wait until the cheater cleans out the bank account and leaves, or you'll lose your chance to gain the upper hand," Houston said. "If you suspect that something might be going on, be smart and quietly go about getting some of the details."
According to a 2008 survey of the matrimonial lawyers academy, 88% of the nation's top divorce attorneys said they had seen an increase in cases using electronic data as evidence in the previous five years.
"Technology is having a big impact on the way that divorces are now conducted," said James Hennenhoefer, the president of the academy. "Many people still don't realize how much evidence can be gleaned from personal electronics, ranging from computers to cell phones and GPS. In the Internet age, there is often a very clear trail."
Once you have evidence, confront your spouse.
"Letting your spouse know you're aware of their affair may make the difference between being dumped and negotiating for more-favorable terms," Houston said.
For a spouse facing the loss of a marriage, working a deal whereby infidelity is kept quiet in exchange for a larger settlement may make sense for both parties. For example, the U.S. military considers adultery unacceptable conduct. If a soldier commits adultery, he or she can be charged with Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and the adultery could reflect adversely on his or her service record.
"If you do decide to pursue this avenue, you will have to keep quiet as you are learning about the affair. Otherwise, you will lose your bargaining power," Houston said.
Also, proving adultery isn't easy. "Even if you have a video of your husband and his secretary going into a hotel room, that doesn't mean you've proven anything," said Thomas Wolfrum, a certified family law specialist who is a fellow of the matrimonial lawyers academy.
Explore your fault/no-fault options
There are fault grounds, such as adultery, physical cruelty, mental cruelty, habitual drunkenness and desertion, and there are no-fault grounds, such as "irreconcilable differences" or living separately for a time.
Oklahoma introduced no-fault divorce in 1953. But the idea that you could get a divorce without blaming someone didn't gain traction until 1969, when California abolished its old divorce law and replaced it with dissolution based on irreconcilable differences. By 1985, every state had adopted no-fault divorce.
Some no-fault states do allow you to claim fault, penalizing the at-fault party, when you're deciding who will pay attorney fees or who will get what property. Some no-fault states also consider fault in spousal support.
Learn about division of property
Even if you don't live in an at-fault state, you still may be able to get more of the marital estate, depending on whether you live in a community-property state or an equitable-distribution state. In community-property states -- Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington and Wisconsin -- fault is not considered in division of property.
All the rest of the states are equitable-distribution states. "In these states, the judge has discretion to decide how the property should be divided, and the court can consider a number of factors," Wolfrum said.
They include the length of a marriage, the parties' ages and health, their earnings and likely future earnings, the ability of the parties to support themselves, their educations and who paid for them, and property acquired during the marriage.
Pursue spousal support
If you're working through mental health issues after the affair, you may want to have that factored into the settlement.
"You can say: 'I've been married for 20 years, and I thought he was faithful. Then I found out he was having not just one affair but multiple affairs. I need at least a year of therapy, and I want child support and alimony computed on zero income for that year because I'm devastated and emotionally unable to work,'" Wolfrum said.
Go after the home wrecker
Stealing a spouse is a form of personal injury, which can be compensated. Depending on the state, injured spouses may be able to file "alienation of affection" or "criminal conversation" lawsuits against the other woman or man. Even if you don't go after the paramour, raising the possibility may get you a better deal from your soon-to-be ex.
"Alienation of affection" is a term that covers someone's interfering with an affectionate relationship. Since 1935, the law has been abolished by most states as an archaic form of revenge. However, if you live in a state where the law is still on the books -- Hawaii, Illinois, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Dakota or Utah -- you may be able to receive some financial compensation. More than 200 such cases are filed annually in North Carolina, which protects marriages from third-party interference.
In an alienation lawsuit, you don't have to prove the other person had sex with your spouse, according to Haas McNeill & Associates, a law firm in North Carolina. "The exclusive right of sexual intercourse is not the right protected in this type of case," he said. "It's the actual affection between spouses that's the right protected."
Unlike alienation lawsuits, criminal-conversation lawsuits are about the other woman or man having sex with your spouse. You don't have to prove that the intercourse changed the way your spouse feels, only that sex between your spouse and the other person occurred while you were married.
Know who the other person is
Before you can go after the person involved with your spouse, you have to know his or her identity. Houston, the author, offers the following tips for finding out:
* Reverse phone number search. "If you find unfamiliar numbers on your caller ID, cell phone bill, programmed into your spouse's cell phone or scribbled on scraps of paper or the back of business cards, you can do a reverse phone number search to find out whose number it is," Houston says. For a fee, this service also lets you run background checks on any names.
* Reverse e-mail address search. "If your spouse is sending or receiving e-mails from someone you don't know and you want to find out who a certain e-mail address belongs to, you can run a reverse e-mail search with the largest e-mail search database on the Internet," Houston says. This is the same service used by law enforcement.
* Background check. "If you have the name of the person(s) you think your spouse is involved with, you can run a background check to find out more information about this person," including address and work history and whether he or she is married, single or divorced or has ever been convicted of a crime, Houston says.
Hire a good lawyer
Getting a greater share of the marital assets requires a skilled lawyer.
"Start with an attorney from the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, because they are noted for excellence in this area, and many have passed a second bar exam to become a certified family law specialist," said Wolfrum, who also recommends you get a copy of Internal Revenue Service Publication 504, "Divorced or Separated Individuals."
This story was reported by Laurie Moison for divorce360.com
Chocha Monger
11-12-09, 08:04
Old lions are driven from the pride and left to starve to death in the Serengeti; old silverbacks are killed by rivals or driven into exile to live out the rest of their lives in solitude; and old bull water buffaloes are left behind by the herd to serve as a meal for the vultures and hyenas. The theme plays itself out among humans each day too. Males die alone. Yet, many men try to escape it through marriage. Even after multiple failed marriages many keep trying. It is not hope but fear that keeps many trying. Like a struggling animal stuck in quicksand the harder they resist their faith the faster and deeper they sink. Marriage and children often become their downfall instead of their redemption. Why? The system is rigged against them. Today, you’ll hear much ado about women’s rights, children’s rights, even rights of the unborn. When last did you see a campaign or an ad promoting men’s rights? That’s right men have no rights in First World countries. I’ve heard a lot about animal rights in the USA. Yes, Scruffy the pooch has more rights than his supposed master.
Men do not stand up for their rights in the rich countries. They give their rights up because they believe that women should have more rights, children should have more rights and animals should have more rights. They nod vigorously in agreement when these rights agendas are brought up and forwarded. When they realize that they no longer have any rights they either do one of two things. They become homosexuals so that they can at least have gay rights or they expatriate. Expatriation doesn’t always work though because they take the same attitudes with them to their new country. Since they have the same attitude that caused them to lose their rights in the first place they are ripe for exploitation by the females in that country. Foreign females know a lot about the lucrative divorce and child support systems in wealthy countries which is why a lot of them would do anything to get there and cash in. Western television has done quite a good job of educating them.
If you get to a foreign country and you start handing out cash you will become someone’s cash cow. Cash cows only retain value as long as they produce when they’re milked. The day a cash cow stops producing it will be sent to the slaughterhouse for meat. The same goes for geese that lay golden eggs.
When the end comes it really doesn’t matter if you have a few greedy kids, grand kids or a wife one quarter your age hovering over your wrinkled bag of bones. Chances are if you’re dying from old age you’ll be so fucking demented you wouldn’t even know who they are anyway. I’ve seen this before and it’s a sad state of affairs. I don’t know why anyone would want to subject their relatives to that. It’s not glamorous when your grandchild asks why the old fuck in the bed kept calling him Jimmy when his name is Bob. There’s nothing more pathetic than a man tying himself to a woman, giving her money and fathering children simply because he is scared to die alone. When you’re out there barebacking you never say that you’re scared of catching AIDS alone. When you fly for that cheap Third World pussy you never say that you’re scared of crashing alone. So what’s this bullshit about getting old and dying alone?
What you have described is Social Darwinism at its most extreme. And, unfortunately, from my vantage point anyway, so much of what you say is absolutely right, especially relating to NA women. As a small example, I see buses going by daily with huge advertisements on the side about family violence, and, of course, who is 100% of the time at fault in any situation? I have never seen an ad counselling a father against his son or daughter, who could easily beat him up and/or steal from him, or abusive wives, of which there are plenty.
What you say equally applies to 3rd world women as well. From my position, I live in a city where a man is absolutely nothing but an ATM machine to these stuckup bitches, so I am left with the ultimate Hobbsian choice:
a) go after one here, and expect to get taken to the cleaners
b) swear off sex altogether
c) accept reality, fly to Latin America, and pay for it, but at least get some attention.
Given my age and financial situation, I can at least afford to do c), and have a pretty nice novia down in Medellin, and am willing to help her out, as well as hit the casas on a regular basis, something that absolutely will not happen here. But it is our fault, the north american male, who has abdicated responsibility and power to all others, and will be left to die within the next few generations.
I think it was said best by a black cop who stopped me in NYC in the 70s and proceeded to illegally search my car. I asked, "What about my rights?" and he said, "You keep whining about your rights and I'll give you so many rights you'll beg me just for a left" and kept searching. He didn't find anything but I never forgot that I was in a bad neighborhood looking for dope and so had sort of voluntarily waived a lot of my rights.
So maybe women's rights will be more successful when women's rights are better than men's lefts? Not advocating violence here but it is what it is. Have a look at marriage. It essentially amounts to waiving many constitutional rights, such as the right not to shave on weekends, the right to pour beer on your corn flakes in the morning, the right to strange pussy, and many other rights men have fought and died for over the years. However with rights come responsibilities so we have the responsibility not to fall for this shit and to monger as necessary.
European and Latin and Asian cultures have no problem understanding the concept that a powerful man will have many women, and should. AW and similar want to turn stallions into geldings. It's not going to be a successful long-term strategy from an evolutionary standpoint.
Chocha Monger
11-13-09, 20:04
gentlemen:
eliot spitzer, also known as “client 9” is a classic example of the american male. he condemned and prosecuted prostitution. he worked with women’s rights organizations to put johns behind bars and on sex offender registries. yet, behind the scenes he himself was a voracious consumer in the flesh trade. while the majority of american guys don’t go to such extremes they nod in agreement when feminists voice their opinions. they declare other males guilty in domestic disputes before the case even goes to trial without even knowing the facts. one of the most popular ways women get their lovers to kill their husbands is by making up a very provocative tale about domestic abuse. so, yes, american men have created quite a mess for themselves. at the least they are complicit in relinquishing their rights. they keep shut when women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights and animal rights are promoted at the cost of men’s rights. funny isn’t it that men have died to protect these freedoms that feminists and others are claiming rights to but men’s rights are the least of their concerns.
mongering is an alternative to the current institutions that exist in north america but it isn’t a solution by itself. we can’t just run off and get laid in foreign countries while ignoring the growing mess at home. the feminists have shown themselves quite capable of reaching beyond international borders. they have used government and ngos as vehicles to propagate their ideology abroad and have managed to deal significant blows to the prostitution industry abroad. some of their other major victories include imbra.
it’s time for men to take a stand. this means rejecting the current paradigm for male female relationships at home. the first step is to reject marriage completely. this is one of women’s greatest and easiest wealth building strategies. instead of signing off on the automatic transfer of wealth to women, men need to force them to use all the college degrees that they’re earning to make a living instead of sitting at home or taking up lower pressure employment. thanks to modern technology, neither marriage nor a girlfriend is needed to enjoy fatherhood and family life. if you want kids without the baggage of alimony or child support only two things are needed. find an egg donor and a surrogate mother. you can find a donor with all the genetic characteristics and predispositions you would desire in your offspring. this is something extremely difficult if not impossible to do via tradition means except for some societies where family medical history is researched as part of the matchmaking process. the use of a surrogate mother for the gestation of the egg(s) from the donor erases all legal claims to your biological offspring by other parties. they are yours to raise as you see fit. if you have sons send them to the best schools for boys only. this will eliminate the distraction of girls. it will also eliminate the tendency of teachers to praise and encourage girls over boys in coed settings.
other small steps for you but great steps for mankind include making women pay for their own meals and drinks. north american women claim that they don’t believe in paid sex and that they are independent. it is high time that they be held to that standard. if paying for pussy is wrong, then paying for a woman’s company at a restaurant, bar or nightclub is also wrong. protest sexist ads depicting men as child molesters or domestic abusers. if tax dollars or charitable donations were used in their production, write to the institutions responsible expressing your disgust. write to businesses that depict men in a negative light and refuse to do business with them. let’s start with brinks/broadview security. they have a string of ads showing men as potential [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127), burglars and abusers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkr0-nvwmqy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syjm1dpriba&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28o21ufsmo0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-j_end8m8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8dkh7tcru&feature=related
gentlemen, here we have 5 individual instances of a business blatantly portraying men as criminals and women and children as their victims for financial gain. why are we allowing this to happen in our country? if a company targeted women or children for this kind of negative campaign there would be outrage. their stock would soon be worth less than toilet paper. they say that you can run but you can’t hide. well, you can monger but if you keep ignoring what is happening at home you’ll soon find yourself not being able to even do that.
please let brinks/broadview security know how you feel.
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Bango Cheito
11-13-09, 20:22
I'm all for the idea of ending marriage as an institution. I don't think it serves ANYONE in the long run. We need to look at better ways of raising our kids.
DJ FourMoney
11-13-09, 22:23
I couldn't agree more with what your saying overall. The way men are depicted in the media is worrying. Young girls see that and expect the worst. I didn't look at the Broadview ads as you look at them. But seeing them from your point of view is eye opening.
This depicts men as the only aggressors in relationships when that is not the case at all.
I will say it doesn't help in America when men like Bart Stupak are trying to add an anti-abortion stance into a health care bill, almost totally derailing it.
As Born Looser said there are men working against our interest too, lining up with large predatory banks and the Catholic Church.
I don't think men try to beat old age loneliness with long term relationships nor have children just so they can take care of them in old age. At least that's not now I look at it.
So I kinda agree with BC, it just has to be re-tooled, not blown apart.
As the saying goes around here -
That's less likely to happen with an AW (but not impossible), becoming less likely with Western European Women, but you still have an opening in Eastern Europe, Asia and South America.
Here is a site that every male on this thread needs to be acquainted with.
This guy gets it LOL!
http://www.nomarriage.com/
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