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ForceSteeler
12-15-14, 01:33
ForceSteeler forced me out of my posting hiatus with this post. Mostly because it currently hit home with what is currently going on in my life at this very moment.
I'm fresh off of an 8 day mongering vacation in Medellin over the Thanksgiving holiday in where I banged 20 different chicas with a handful of repeat sessions; and admittedly fellas, I was actually somewhat bored with this trip. The fb method I use while in Medellin can be tiring. You schedule for chicas to come over at a certain time and they are always late. Be it traffic or just them, if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment. When chicas get there late it causes me to have to reshuffle a 4 pm appointment, which in turn causes me to have to reshuffle a 6 pm appointment. It just causes a ripple-effect cluster fuck and I was finding myself working rather than relaxing this trip. All of that was fucking exhausting!
I remember being in the shower after a session and saying to myself: "Man, I am going to chill on mongering for a bit and just give the home / local scene a chance. " Meaning, getting back into the dating game here at home. I am in my early 30's, in good shape, healthy, and never have any problems getting dates either online or offline. I was seriously going to hang up my mongering hat for a while, knowing I could always come back to it at a moments notice..Yeah, I never know why some guys are so against paying for pussy. To me your paying for it directly or indirectly, especially when your dealing with American women, and she is attractive. I see so many dudes buying expensive clothes, In The VIP section buying.
Thousands of dollars worth of champagne, high ass car notes, and getting themselves deep in debt in the name of trying to impress women and at the end of the day half your check is gone because of child support.
Also most women are undercover hookers anyway, deep down when you meet a women she knows within 10 seconds of meeting you if she is going to have sex with you or not. Most of them have a dollar figure in there head on how much you are going to spend before.
She gives you any pussy. (Going to the movies, dinner dates, expensive gifts, are all just Indirect ways of buying the pussy) which is why when a guys pulls up in a Ferrari (Expensive car), there are ready to have sex. There's no need play hard to get or play games.
But I understand the game, and I understand that Corporate America and Wall Street come up with new ways for us to spend money on bullshit that are not worth shit after you buy it and If you put women in control, but giving them WIC, welfare and section 8, they don't really need a man in the house. They can be choosey and picky on who they sleep with. So by making prostitution illegal and making sex scares is the reason you guy so many thirsty pussy whipped in America.
While in other countries like South America, Asia, Africa, etc. Women are not valued and worshiped because getting government assistance like welfare is non-existent. So they need a man for survival. If they don't have a man, life will be hard on them, so they will.
Be more submissive.
Maybe you should try playing it a little differently for a change so it's not so much work. Instead of trying to schedule one liaison after another which requires you to stick to a tight schedule, just kind of show up and let it all unfold. Don't try to always plan every single thing. Like you already know, these girls can be so unreliable. I don't know where you like to monger or exactly how you like to do it, but I love places like the FKKs in Germany, the termas in Rio, the Hotel del Rey in Costa Rica, and Go-Go bars like in Thailand. They allow me to make sure my mongering vacation remains just that. A vacation and not a job! It's like going to the market to see what fresh produce is available that day LOL! If you see something you like, you buy it. And if you don't (not likely but it happens) then you just move on to the next shop or stall. It sounds like to me that you yourself make it too much exhausting work. Take it easy man. Like an athlete sometimes needs to be reminded, play within yourself and let the game come to you. Then it won't feel like so much hard work. And congratulations on choosing to be free!All the scheduling is a western habit because we are always so focused on time. In South America and other parts of the world, they are a lot more relaxed and time isn't as relevant. I had to learn that and when I travel now, I live more in the moment. Have a lot more fun that way.
Mr Enternational
12-15-14, 14:12
All the scheduling is a western habit because we are always so focused on time. In South America and other parts of the world, they are a lot more relaxed and time isn't as relevant. I had to learn that and when I travel now, I live more in the moment. Have a lot more fun that way.It's not just a western habit, it varies from culture to culture. But in Latin America when someone says 10 for a party, business meeting, or whatever, it does not mean be there at 10 exactly. More like 11. If you arrive at 10 then prepare to be the only one there. So actually, SavePros' girls were right on time according to their culture.
Naked Gunz
12-15-14, 14:54
"if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment."
"After the date we spent most of the night texting back and forth like a pair of high school teenagers."It's usually the traffic they are stuck in, and they are taking the cheapest form of transpo to get to you. Also they are not expecting to walk into your sport f*uck session, but expect that since your from the US drinks and dinner can be part of the deal.
Whew! I thought you were going to say you were f*cking all night! Close call! Yeah, you went home to rub one out after getting played like a teenager. Glad you learned your lesson.
All the scheduling is a western habit because we are always so focused on time. In South America and other parts of the world, they are a lot more relaxed and time isn't as relevant. I had to learn that and when I travel now, I live more in the moment. Have a lot more fun that way.Good point. I vacillate between sport sessions and having a vacation wife of three or four days, which is so much more relaxing. Nothing better than having a very attractive hard body spoil you while your there.
SavePros321
12-15-14, 19:44
It's usually the traffic they are stuck in, and they are taking the cheapest form of transpo to get to you. Also they are not expecting to walk into your sport f*uck session, but expect that since your from the US drinks and dinner can be part of the deal.
.For Medellin the cheapest form of transportation would be the bus, and no chica I have every had come over has taken the bus to get to my place. They all take taxis. So it's usually a combination of them, traffic, and the taxi driver not knowing where the hell he is going.
And no chica coming over to my place at 2 or 4 pm is expecting dinner, LOL. Drinks maybe, but I usually only offer dinner to chicas who are coming around the time I would be eating dinner, which would be around 7 or 8 pm.
Also most women are undercover hookers anyway, deep down when you meet a women she knows within 10 seconds of meeting you if she is going to have sex with you or not. Most of them have a dollar figure in there head on how much you are going to spend before She gives you any pussy.Undercover hookers! I love it! Very true.
in other countries like South America ... getting government assistance like welfare is non-existent.Completely untrue in LatAm. You have food subsidies, socialized medicine, payments for having children, etc. in various forms in many South American countries. I have been to all the latin countries in South America. Subsidies are a major form of obtaining political support. This goes back to the times of the Inca, where they would co-opt neighboring tribes by giving them food, as the Inca had comparatively advanced methods of drying and storing food in addition to their fertile land. Most South American countries have public housing programs as well ("viviendas," for example). Transportation is also heavily subsidized.
ThatGuy865
12-15-14, 23:54
While in other countries like South America, Asia, Africa, etc. Women are not valued and worshiped because getting government assistance like welfare is non-existent. So they need a man for survival. If they don't have a man, life will be hard on them, so they will. Be more submissive.This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. One way or another.
Whether its because they have careers or government assistance. But the bottom line. AW can take care of themselves.
Can't you read, I said I'm glad you got lucky. Do you even see WTF happened, and what you wrote? SHE initiated the whole thing, not you. You were just drooling in the corner over her. YOU used the words "opportunity" like somebody had to hand you something. Everybody lucks up on a piece every now and then here in America. IF you were so sure about YOUR money, personality and looks (and had a pair) you would have walked over and "got the digits" yourself. Your not understanding dude how this happens DAILY, hell hourly, everywhere EXCEPT with AW. Your also not seeing the big picture if your discounting the American puritanical ethics. One: that your not supposed to give up the pussy right away. Two: Your not suppose to have a thirty year age difference in who you bang- which is the POINT of the website. These rules of society put hesitation in your head to make the move and make it happen.
Read the post just above yours slick from Big Ass Eater. You think that's going to happen in the good ole USA unless your Hugh Hefner? Even the women he bangs go around writing books talking about how disgusting it was to bang an old man. Society forces women to stay in their lane when it comes to banging an older guy unless he is a "Sugar Daddy", and when you go holding hands in the mall, that same American society will point and make friggin remarks to your face. I choose to keep myself in shape by exercise and eating right, and not chubby chasing women with baggage "in my age group". No one dare says a thing to me in Nairobi when I stroll with my twenty-something's.I was not LUCKY. Just because she approached me BEFORE I approached her does not mean I would not have approached. It was just surprising as I did not think she would have approached me and waited for my move.
Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . Becos most won't have the financial means to survive without one and / or need a man for security reason also. As being a single woman can be dangerous in those countries. For those reasons the women are reliant on having a Man. And Western men are PERCEIVED as being wealthy.
Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.
TG865 keeping it real. Peace.
Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.I do believe this is the first thing you've ever written that I agree with. And the ones who do usually have a pretty serious Electra complex. My opinion is that it's highly inadvisable to be with a woman who has or makes more money than you do, in any case.
I do believe this is the first thing you've ever written that I agree with. And the ones who do usually have a pretty serious Electra complex. My opinion is that it's highly inadvisable to be with a woman who has or makes more money than you do, in any case.Here in the US a woman that makes more than you will constantly rub your nose in it. They will tell you how they don't need a man, they have their own money.
They still don't have a problem spending your money.
Yeah, they don't pay half even when they make double. Fuck 'them. I have three more weeks here this time around. It's been a long seven months.
SavePros321
12-16-14, 04:44
Yeah, they don't pay half even when they make double. Fuck 'them. I have three more weeks here this time around. It's been a long seven months.I shit you not: during my brief foray back into online dating I was talking to a chick on the phone two days ago. At one point in the conversation she says: "I don't know what you are looking for, but I am not looking for anything serious. Just someone to go on a few dates with and have fun, and if something serious happens from there then so be it. ".
I, haven been around the block more than once, countered her with: "Yeah, I know what you are saying. That's why I always go Dutch. That way no one feels obligated to anything at the end of the night."
The line got so quiet you could hear a rat pissing on cotton: from HER side of the phone line, LOL! This byatch was basically trying to tell me that she's looking for someone who will pay for her fun, and if she decides she wants to have sex with you then lucky you. Otherwise don't expect anything else other than to enjoy her time with you on your (my) dime.
Escorts are cheaper! LOL.
I, haven been around the block more than once, countered her with: "Yeah, I know what you are saying. That's why I always go Dutch. That way no one feels obligated to anything at the end of the night."I think Dutch works for young people where everything is equal and appropriate. I'd look like a douche if I tried that at my age.
The line got so quiet you could hear a rat pissing on cottonDude, that is the funniest thing I have heard all week. It's only Monday but still. Are you from maybe east Texas or Oklahoma? I knew a guy from Ardmore OK who had a bunch of those "It was so (blank) you could (blank)" type stuff. "My dick got so hard I dint have enough skin left to blink my eyes" was one I remember, along with "She was so tall I had to go up on her. " Great guy who got his ticket punched on US 287 one night near Boise City.
Naked Gunz
12-16-14, 15:58
I think Dutch works for young people where everything is equal and appropriate. I'd look like a douche if I tried that at my age.Why be stuck in the old days of paying for dinner, gifts and being "Mr. Nice Guy", all the while wondering when your get her panties off. Why continue the dating games when that money is better spent on a gratuity to a sweet Pinay, big booty Kenyan, or Thai spinner, all under the age of 25, and leaving you the day to play golf, have a beer with your buddies or just do WTF you want with your life- despite your age.
Any middle-aged, unattached man in the USA, should take his vacations in Thailand, Costa Rica, hell even Tijuana! Your time and money is best spent furthering your education, and focusing on your health to keep pace with this QUICKLY CHANGING society to keep up! Your age will be your enemy not only in the dating game, but the employment game also- which is way more important than chasing p*ssy. No money-No honey.
Mr Enternational
12-16-14, 16:45
I think Dutch works for young people where everything is equal and appropriate. I'd look like a douche if I tried that at my age.You only feel that way because you have been conditioned that a man pays for a woman. Guys like SavePros are trying to break that spell. As you saw in his example, the women are caught off guard when a man tries to take this route that they are not accustomed to. I don't know if you have read his report about a year ago about when he went to lunch with a chick and she piled all kind of food on her tray, then when she found out he was not paying she was no longer hungry. That shit is a classic. It's a sad day when a broad won't even feed herself without the assistance of your money.
If you think going dutch is hard, try getting them to pay for you. I have no problem doing things for women who I know would do the same for me, but when I know they won't then there is no sense in me even wasting my time. I'm not pressed for pussy. I can get that anytime.
SavePros321
12-16-14, 19:41
Why be stuck in the old days of paying for dinner, gifts and being "Mr. Nice Guy", all the while wondering when your get her panties off. Why continue the dating games when that money is better spent on a gratuity to a sweet Pinay, big booty Kenyan, or Thai spinner, all under the age of 25, and leaving you the day to play golf, have a beer with your buddies or just do WTF you want with your life- despite your age.
You only feel that way because you have been conditioned that a man pays for a woman. Guys like SavePros are trying to break that spell.Yeah, don't buy into that old school "White Knight" way of thinking like these two have already mentioned Riina. Nowadays women make just as much as their male counterparts, if not more; despite the "War on Women / Pay Inequality" bullshit MSLSD and the other alphabet news networks try to pump you with.
I have a 23 yr old coworker who started at the same time I did, and we are both the same pay grade. We both happen to make a very decent amount of coin. She openly brags about how she never pays for any drinks when she goes out to bars or nightclubs. She also told me she can judge how generous a guy will be with her in a relationship based on the amount of the tip he leaves; for a meal her ass didn't even pay for! And part of her criteria was that the tip had to be generous regardless of if the service was shitty.
I have broken my rule of not paying for other women's meals from time to time, but not often. The chick from my post yesterday made the mistake of laying all her cards on the table at once without realizing she was dealing with someone who was not a pussy-starved sucker who would roll out the red carpet and do whatever she wanted just for the honor and privilege of being in her presence.
Mr Enternational
12-16-14, 20:49
This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. One way or another.
Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . Becos most won't have the financial means to survive. Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.Exactly. And in those other countries here's what they think about you.
Guys like SavePros are trying to break that spell. Yea, and we know that's a tremendous turn on for American women, a guy who's trying to break the paradigm. A real panty dropper.
I have a 23 yr old coworker who started at the same time I did, and we are both the same pay grade. We both happen to make a very decent amount of coin. She openly brags about how she never pays for any drinks when she goes out to bars or nightclubs. She also told me she can judge how generous a guy will be with her in a relationship based on the amount of the tip he leaves; for a meal her ass didn't even pay for! And part of her criteria was that the tip had to be generous regardless of if the service was shitty.They're going to sit there and judge you based on how much you tip and their asses aren't paying for shit ever! Shows you how generous they're going to be with the pussy you think? I had a buddy who got pissed when he took a woman out to dinner at a nice restaurant and she barely even touched her meal after ordering all of this expensive food. He wanted to know why she wasn't eating and she got all pissy about it. Like it was totally OK for her to sit there on her ass and order all that food and barely touch any of it just because she could, wasting somebody else's money. And get this, she got uber pissed off when he tried to have it boxed up so that she could take it home! I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these women. I bet if she had been paying for it she'd see it differently then. I would have had it boxed up and took it home for my own damn self! I don't spend my money dating anymore, and that leaves me with more of it to go around on everything else, including the tutes!
Exactly. And in those other countries here's what they think about you.At least they are fucking you. In the US you are their ATM and you don't get shit for it.
Over there when you wise up you can leave and the ATM is closed. In the US when you leave, it will cost you half of what you own.
Don't assume just because an AW makes her own money she won't try to take as much of yours as she can.
You are nothing more than an income subsidy.
Here in the US a woman that makes more than you will constantly rub your nose in it. They will tell you how they don't need a man, they have their own money.
They still don't have a problem spending your money.This is true. I have experienced this several times and remain a happy bachelor thanks to the abundance of worldwide snatch that trumps anything in the USA Women here think their pussy is made of gold and many don't realize the competition from willing foreign beauties.
Naked Gunz
12-17-14, 01:27
This is the bottom line. Its not about AW being any different from women in other countries. Its AW have FINANCIAL freedom. .If financial freedom means taking half my shyt, then yes, they have financial freedom. And I do commend women that earn degrees, and put off family for career. But as we all know, the blue collar man is not good enough for those women. They are waiting for the doctor or lawyer to come along. They see those," Every gift begins with Kay" commercials and see themselves, LOL! When I got laid off from Sony, I took a Wal-Mart job to feed myself rather than take unemployment. The former regional manager for Sports Authority worked with me. Shyt was bad. But when women see you working at the W, your like a buck-toothed idiot. Just a couple years later I was making 125k. F*ck u biatches.
Secondly as ForceSteeler so eloquently put it. Women in the countries guys rave about. "NEED A MAN FOR SURVIVAL" . And Western men are PERCEIVED as being wealthy.Its not Society that dictates woman don't date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Its NATURE. In those countries guys rave about you RARELY see women who come from financially secure families dating 20 to 30 yr older men. Why is that? . because they don't NEED or want to. And its not NATURAL. Very few financial secure women date men 20 to 30 yrs older. Period. In any country.TG865 keeping it real. Peace.Not saying some or all of that isn't true. I don't make the rules I just take advantage of them. Women everywhere are going to need a man a some point, for some reason, even if it's just to lift shyt. That argument is pointless. I do know, however, that those women in other countries know good and well that American men are conditioned from birth to work hard, and know that big trouble is awaiting if they beat them. That's why we are immediately the Alpha male over there. It is natural to f*ck the Alpha male. The fact that you are in their country in the first place means you have enough to travel. Yeah, Mr. E paints an ugly picture. Nobody said you have to marry them.
SavePros321
12-17-14, 01:59
At least they are fucking you. In the US you are their ATM and you don't get shit for it.
I couldn't agree more! I'll take the "Uncle Moneybags Gringo" label any day as long as I am tapping that ass long and strong!
If "tia", "hermana", or "prima" needs some financial assistance then they'd better be ready to drop them panties too. If "madre" or "abuela" are sexy, then they can get the dick as well.
Now, where could you say and pull off the same here in the US?
UltraHappy
12-17-14, 02:31
Not to detract from anyone else's experiences, but in my limited experience, I virtually always offer to pay for my AW date's food / movie / entry ticket / etc. In most cases, the girl I'm with usually wants to pay her own way. I actually argue with them to let me pay, and often, I will win this argument only if I agree to let them pay for next time. Or, if I buy dinner, they absolutely insist on paying for the movie or whatever. I've always assumed that she does this because she doesn't want to leave the impression that she "owes" me something or that the outing was / is a romantic one.
So, on the rare occasion that an AW lets me pay, she is sort of acknowledging that the outing is a romantic one and for this reason, it is ok for her to let me pay. If the girl believes we are on a date, then I am more than happy to pay. In my opinion, this cost is a small price for good times, nice company and conversation, even if she doesn't put out. The alternative is to be lonely until my next trip, so the cost of a nice date is rather insignificant, at least for me.
Just my experience. I recognize I may be in a different age bracket than others here and I recognize too that many of us are from different parts of the USA.
Just my experience and thoughts.
ThatGuy865
12-17-14, 08:08
Not to detract from anyone else's experiences, but in my limited experience, I virtually always offer to pay for my AW date's food / movie / entry ticket / etc. In most cases, the girl I'm with usually wants to pay her own way. I actually argue with them to let me pay, and often, I will win this argument only if I agree to let them pay for next time. Or, if I buy dinner, they absolutely insist on paying for the movie or whatever. I've always assumed that she does this because she doesn't want to leave the impression that she "owes" me something or that the outing was / is a romantic one.
So, on the rare occasion that an AW lets me pay, she is sort of acknowledging that the outing is a romantic one and for this reason, it is ok for her to let me pay. If the girl believes we are on a date, then I am more than happy to pay. In my opinion, this cost is a small price for good times, nice company and conversation, even if she doesn't put out. The alternative is to be lonely until my next trip, so the cost of a nice date is rather insignificant, at least for me.
Just my experience. I recognize I may be in a different age bracket than others here and I recognize too that many of us are from different parts of the USA.
Just my experience and thoughts.UltraHappy,
This is not rare or infrequent occurrence. Its a common practice for AW to offer to pay. I have had dinner bought for me on several occasions by women.
This thread is more about guys venting their anger at either their lack of success with AW or bitterness towards them from a bad divorce.
America is too large and diverse for anyone to pinpoint how all women act. There are women of every race, nationality, religion, and financial level.
This has more to do with guys who base their relationships with all women on the same level as hookers. Any time or money is spent with a woman, then sex is owed. Period end of story. Regardless, whether no connection was made, its. "I spent, we fuck now" .
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.
SavePros321
12-17-14, 18:10
This thread is more about guys venting their anger at either their lack of success with AW or bitterness towards them from a bad divorce.
America is too large and diverse for anyone to pinpoint how all women act. There are women of every race, nationality, religion, and financial level.
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.I am just calling it how I experience it. I am giving people my POV from someone who is able to get dates without too much work, but would rather not spend the time jumping through hoops trying to get laid when their are alternate paths of least resistance.
My question to you is what do you get out of trying to sell your angle amongst a board full of veteran world travelers on a hoar board? If you have never gone to another country to pay for ass they you are completely out of your league here. You have no world experience and are just telling your view one-sided (from the North American POV).
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?
Naked Gunz
12-17-14, 18:15
"I spent, we fuck now" Everything in life takes the path of least resistance. Including my dick!
ForceSteeler
12-17-14, 19:49
I am just calling it how I experience it. I am giving people my POV from someone who is able to get dates without too much work, but would rather not spend the time jumping through hoops trying to get laid when their are alternate paths of least resistance.
My question to you is what do you get out of trying to sell your angle amongst a board full of veteran world travelers on a hoar board? If you have never gone to another country to pay for ass they you are completely out of your league here. You have no world experience and are just telling your view one-sided (from the North American POV).
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?You mean on the same boat. I love mongering in the other countries because I don't have to waste money or time on dates and bullshit, In my Mongering Career I have been all over the world and I have fucked over 800 women and counting. And I only been mongering for 4 Years now. The average guy in the USA can't say they fucked over 800 women in 4 years, unless there a Multi-Millionare, Entertainer, Actor, or Athlete. Mongering has change my life it really opens your eyes on your value as a man. Some People may hate and.
Say why spend money on pussy, but at the end of the day. I always tell them, enjoy life for now, in life there is no Part 2, There is no sequel to your life. So enjoy it. At the end of the day, your only going to get old, don't live in regret.
Mr Enternational
12-17-14, 21:06
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?I don't recall TG saying do not go overseas to pay for pussy. He has just made an explanation of the male / female dynamics, which holds true damn near anywhere. And I totally agree with him. You see many guys come on here and bash the chicks where they live saying how fat and unattractive they are. Well I'm in Rio right now and I can tell you that there are just as many fat and unattractive women here. This is not a country full of Gisselles. The difference is that the men appreciate the women they have. You will see a handsome guy walking down the street hand in hand with his girlfriend who may be overweight or not the best looking thing out there. But he makes her feel loved and they could give a shit what other people think.
But back to the TG issue. Why do you never see Mayweather or Puff Daddy in Angeles or Sosua? Because they have long money. They are millionaires where they live so they can just walk outside or go to Vegas or Miami and get the baddest chicks they can find. They don't need to go to a third world country to seem rich. If any guy on this board says that if he had the money then he would not do the same then he is a liar. We go places where our money will be long and what we are doing seems the same to the locals as what those other sports figures and musicians doing back home seem to us. I don't see guys on this board planning trips to places like London or Moscow where P4 P is available, but will put a big ass hole in your bank account.
Rio is a perfect example. 10 and 12 years ago the Rio board was hot. But since the currency fucked up you don't see many guys reporting that they went to Rio and did what guys said years ago. The board is pretty dead with the same guys reporting over and over. I for one moved from Rio to Thailand when everything fucked up so I am a living example. I go for regular chicks as well as P4 P because I want to. I'm not about to sit up here and make all kinds of excuses as to why I do P4 P or hang out in third world countries though, (eg. The women back home drove me to with because of their looks or attitude.) A movie ticket costs me $3 in Thailand as opposed to what in Californina? This shit is not brain surgery and it does make sense to go and find chicks where your money will go farther. But denying it makes no sense at all.
ThatGuy865
12-17-14, 21:21
If you HAVE paid for pussy in another country, then your statements above (especially the "Donald Trump" quip) makes you the ultimate hypocrite! Who would take anything you say with any seriousness?SavePros,
You are wrong.
I have traveled the world and making my statement doesn't make me a hypocrite. I do not disagree that guys are treated better by women in 3rd world countries. I too partake of their generosity.
But...
I don't bash AW. Just because I can go to a 3rd world country where I'm considered rich, therefore desirable to even young "Poor" women.
I don't expect AW to be as desperate for a man as a 3rd world woman. Western women are at the top of the "Food chain" as far as women go in this world.
They have more rights, freedoms, financial capabilities and safety nets. Therefore with all western women in general, one has to be realistic, if you want the cream of the crop, its a two way street, so do they. They have the freedom to only be with men they have a sexual desire to be with OR also like the 3rd world woman. Improves their status financially or socially. So if you're not a millionaire, that means for the most part. You have to be as desirable to her as she is to you.
Trust me. I know women in other countries treat guys much better than AW. I get that. I am just saying its because of their financial situation because of where they live.
Bring that same woman back to the you. S, Let her get a job, car and friends. See if she is with you 10 yrs down the road. I know so many stories of guys who did just that and got rude awakenings. Many left almost as soon as they got permanent status. So its not that they are better. Its they are needier.
For me the mongering thing is a vacation thing for me. It's like guys who go camping for a couple of weeks. They love the fresh air, woods and fishing. But that doesn't mean they want to live in the woods.
I know the treatment from the women is not because they are just naturally nice to all men and just eager to please. We are walking ATMs for them. But as a vacation / escape from the real world for a couple of weeks. It can't be beat.
TG865 . Peace.
Naked Gunz
12-18-14, 00:06
He has just made an explanation of the male / female dynamics, which holds true damn near anywhere. And I totally agree with him. I don't see his or your professional certifications on the subject. This is a pussy forum. I will, however, acknowledge that women used to be treated like crap in this country. When a pendulum swings, it does not stop in the middle, it goes to the opposite side. That opposite side is: women getting custody of our children almost automatically, especially under false accusations from women. Men being portrayed as idiots on TV, (and there's one in almost every home influencing this society), having to go through some dating ritual to get laid. Make prostitution legal in the USA? Women will make sure it does not happen. No man will ever go to a regular chick again.
This ain't about Mayweather or Puffy, who can be taken down much harder by a woman (or their dick in the wrong woman) than ever I could be. If I won lotto, I could get those same women. So what's that say about the woman? TG IS a hypocrite. He has posted about AC pussy, but extolls the virtues of the AW. I got nothing really against them. I just am against the system that has handed the keys to the AW that kicks the AM in the balls.
This is not a country full of Gisselles. But back to the TG issue. Why do you never see Mayweather or Puff Daddy in Angeles or Sosua? Because they have long money. They are millionaires where they live so they can just walk outside or go to Vegas or Miami and get the baddest chicks they can find. They don't need to go to a third world country to seem rich. If any guy on this board says that if he had the money then he would not do the same then he is a liar. We go places where our money will be long and what we are doing seems the same to the locals as what those other sports figures and musicians doing back home seem to us.It all depends. You see, if I had acquired long money in the USA before I started mongering, then yeah I would tend to agree with you. But now that I have become a veteran monger, if I hit the lottery tomorrow and became a multimillionaire many times over, knowing what I know now I absolutely would continue to monger overseas. No way would I stop flying all around the world fucking these pretty girls in the ass! Hell, I would do it more! Yeah, I would play more in the States too, but I would continue to monger overseas. Without a doubt I would not stop it. I would do it even more at this stage of my life. And lastly, did you mean full of "gazelles"? Or maybe you meant a bunch of "Gisele Bundchens" strutting around LOL!
Mr Enternational
12-18-14, 00:51
So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?
So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?I like to go to the German FKKs where an hour session with anal will cost me 200 or about $250. So yeah, I would. Where do I sign?
It all depends. You see, if I had acquired long money in the USA before I started mongering, then yeah I would tend to agree with you. But now that I have become a veteran monger, if I hit the lottery tomorrow and became a multimillionaire many times over, knowing what I know now I absolutely would continue to monger overseas. No way would I stop flying all around the world fucking these pretty girls in the ass! Hell, I would do it more! Yeah, I would play more in the States too, but I would continue to monger overseas. Without a doubt I would not stop it. I would do it even more at this stage of my life. And lastly, did you mean full of "gazelles"? Or maybe you meant a bunch of "Gisele Bundchens" strutting around LOL!I would have to agree with Cane. I can date if I choose. I can afford to buy hot women here in the US. I could even have Sugar Babies if I want. I choose to go overseas because I can fuck hot young women the way I like with little effort. I like the way they treat me and they like the way I treat them whatever their reason. We both are getting what we want and that seems fair to me.
The problem that I have in the US is as time goes on, things get more and more one sided and not in my favor. God help you if you have a couple kids together, you really become a slave.
Fortunately I learned early how one sided the game is in the US. I never married and never had any desire to. I love to travel and I love fucking so I know how I will spend the rest of my days.
I love the clarity.
ForceSteeler
12-18-14, 02:15
So how many guys here would still be going to PI or DR and saying how great the women are if pussy was $200/ pop?People fly overseas for the girlfriend experience. You can buy pussy on backpage but who wants to pay $200 for a Rush Nut. When I can pay $35-40 bucks for a girl in the Philippines that will stay with you the whole day. The Hookers are better overseas. Plain and simple.
You schedule for chicas to come over at a certain time and they are always late. Be it traffic or just them, if you ask a chica to be at your place at 2 pm, expect her to show up at 3 or 3:30, regardless of if you reminded her a day, hell, even two hours early about the 2 pm appointment. When chicas get there late it causes me to have to reshuffle a 4 pm appointment, which in turn causes me to have to reshuffle a 6 pm appointment. It just causes a ripple-effect cluster fuck and I was finding myself working rather than relaxing this trip. All of that was fucking exhausting!
You had a 2 pm, a 4 pm and a 6 pm appointment. I admire and salute your stamina and willingness to live on the edge from a scheduling perspective I usually book an 11 am then schedule the 4 pm which gives a little more room to maneuver and if the god are willing (read my old ass has more energy) I add a night appointment. But it is a little like herding cats.
SavePros321
12-23-14, 21:55
You had a 2 pm, a 4 pm and a 6 pm appointment. I admire and salute your stamina and willingness to live on the edge from a scheduling perspective I usually book an 11 am then schedule the 4 pm which gives a little more room to maneuver and if the god are willing (read my old ass has more energy) I add a night appointment. But it is a little like herding cats.Believe it or not, but in looking back at my notes there was one day in where I had 6 chicas come over. Mostly a result of either a fav or a chica I really wanted to see needing to either bump up our meeting a day, or delay it. So I had to slot in other chicas in order to keep with my schedule. There were other days where I saw 5 chicas in one day.
And yes, I was literally crawling back to the airport after this trip, LOL. Not going to go balls to the walls like that again though. Too much work.
UltraHappy,
This has more to do with guys who base their relationships with all women on the same level as hookers. Any time or money is spent with a woman, then sex is owed. Period end of story. Regardless, whether no connection was made, its. "I spent, we fuck now" .
So they go to a 3rd world country where needier women can use them for their money. The difference, since she's poorer and needier, its cheaper and she's shows more gratitude since her need is greater. Its the financial security he brings to the table.
They are just going to a place where now they become the "Donald Trump's" of the city. "Poverty and hunger is a hell of a thing".
TG865 peace.I think if we are being totally honest, this about sums it up. It's really about power at the end of the day, and in a third world country our first world dollar gives us that power. I am from Canada and from my experiences the women here (middle / upper middle class) are no better or worse than other women in the world (in the same class), some are awesome, most are miserable and a few are crazy. That said, I monger not because I dislike the women in my home country or think them deficient in some way (in fact I like them and constantly pursue sex with them), I monger because of pure economics, $65-$75 dollars for an incredibly beautiful woman (in Havana, Medellin, DR) and I get to pretend I'm the most awesome thing that happened to her in the last hour.
Naked Gunz
12-24-14, 01:00
I think if we are being totally honest, this about sums it up. It's really about power at the end of the day, and in a third world country our first world dollar gives us that power. I am from Canada and from my experiences the women here (middle / upper middle class) are no better or worse than other women in the world (in the same class), some are awesome, most are miserable and a few are crazy. That said, I monger not because I dislike the women in my home country or think them deficient in some way (in fact I like them and constantly pursue sex with them), I monger because of pure economics, $65-$75 dollars for an incredibly beautiful woman (in Havana, Medellin, DR) and I get to pretend I'm the most awesome thing that happened to her in the last hour.And who can argue with that. Nobody is saying that dude is not right to some extent. I, for one, am completely tired of his bitching at the forum for doing exactly what it asks for- Giving our opinion about AW. Is not the same thing happening in the USA? AW conniving to get the highest earner to make her life easier, whether he stays with her or not, the biatch is going to get hers. Except what also comes with that is the fact that laws are stacked against AM. I'm also supposed to kiss the ass of the fat, feminazi, AKA the AW.
ThatGuy865
12-24-14, 02:57
Except what also comes with that is the fact that laws are stacked against AM. I don't see this as being true.
No one forces any man to marry and the laws have not gotten worst, if anything better. Any man who got married. Went into it knowing the consequences of a 50/50 split if / when you divorce. Very few women receive alimony these days. So the only other payment is child support. Also something a man knew could / would happen and should accept.
Now some guys may be bitter because they feel the women got more then they deserve thru divorce. But the woman is not to blame.
Its the system. And who created the system. Men. Who more often than not is presiding over the child support rulings. Men. So be mad at AM for the laws men created.
"Don't hate the player. Hate the game".
TG865,
Peace
Naked Gunz
12-24-14, 05:17
Tell that to the guy whose ex was awarded one-billion in the settlement, but told the judge it's not good enough.
I speak from experiance. The judge was making alimony automatic, despite her having a job. The only time my lawyer earned his money is when he quickly tapped dance me out of it. I was attacked by the feminazi court mediator before my ass was in the seat good. Who here has not experianced the pure venom of a woman in divorce. The system has bent over backwards to accomodate them. I was bitter for awhile, but my ex and I get along, I even give her dating advice.
You really need to find a (Y) chromosome. Now me excuse while I throw tomatos at the the TV as my hero Charlie Harper gets engaged on 3 (1/2) M.
SavePros321
12-24-14, 05:42
Tell that to the guy whose ex was awarded one-billion in the settlement, but told the judge it's not good enough.
I speak from experiance. The judge was making alimony automatic, despite her having a job. The only time my lawyer earned his money is when he quickly tapped dance me out of it. I was attacked by the feminazi court mediator before my ass was in the seat good. Who here has not experianced the pure venom of a woman in divorce. The system has bent over backwards to accomodate them. I was bitter for awhile, but my ex and I get along, I even give her dating advice.
You really need to find a (Y) chromosome. Now me excuse while I throw tomatos at the the TV as my hero Charlie Harper gets engaged on 3 (1/2) M.I'm sure ThatGuy865 is a cool guy in person, but he displays way too many Beta Male qualities. I almost want to believe that the real TG865 has moved on from ISG and somehow his wife / ex has commandeered his account and is posting this stuff, LOL.
"18 years, 18 years
She got one of your kids, got you for 18 years
I know somebody paying child support for one of his kids
His baby mammas car and crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV any given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was supposed to buy your shorty TYCO with your money
She went to the doctor got lypo with your money
She walking around looking like Michael (Jackson) with your money
Shouldve got that insured got GEICO for your money, money, money
If you aint no punk holla we want prenup
WE WANT PRENUP! Yeah
Its something that you need to have
Cause when she leave yo ass she gonna leave with half
18 years, 18 years
And on her 18th birthday found out the kid wasn't his..."
Gold Digger - Kanye West
Tell that to the guy whose ex was awarded one-billion in the settlement, but told the judge it's not good enough.
I speak from experiance. The judge was making alimony automatic, despite her having a job. The only time my lawyer earned his money is when he quickly tapped dance me out of it. I was attacked by the feminazi court mediator before my ass was in the seat good. Who here has not experianced the pure venom of a woman in divorce. The system has bent over backwards to accomodate them. I was bitter for awhile, but my ex and I get along, I even give her dating advice.
You really need to find a (Y) chromosome. Now me excuse while I throw tomatos at the the TV as my hero Charlie Harper gets engaged on 3 (1/2) M.Don't forget the most important fact. When you get rid of an AW, any secret you told her that can hurt you becomes public knowledge. She will even make shit up if it can cause you problems. She will do this even if she gets what she wants in a split.
Sometimes it even cost them and they don't seem to care.
Mr Enternational
12-24-14, 15:46
This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:
http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/09/17/are-north-american-women-really-that-bad/
SavePros321
12-24-14, 16:17
This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:
http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/09/17/are-north-american-women-really-that-bad/From the comments section, it sounds like the answer is still a resounding YES, LOL:
January 10,2011 Joe:
I'm married to one of those ultra shallow, no good, lazy, American women. I find NOTHING good about them in general. American women are gross and unladylike. They are greedy and extremely self-centered. If people dig in Google they will find a million websites and pages, blogs and postings about how horrible they are. Catch phrase "American Women suck". If I could find a way to unload this rotten ***** I'm with now and get a foreign girl, I'd do it in a second!
I am divorced but she did not take me to the cleaners and I am not bitter. Now, why did it work out that way? Because we actually knew each other for several years, and had lived together, before we decided to get married. A lot of these guys who are complaining about how terrible their wives are / were only knew them for a couple of months. I actually have two friends who have each married women they knew for only a few weeks, or in one of the marriages, a few days. And, believe it or not, both of these guys have done this twice! We are talking about college educated people here. I only knew one of the four wives, and she is the biggest ***** I have ever met, ugly to boot, and doesn't like sex. One of the other wives called me on the phone after he ran off with a stripper. I had never met this woman. She called me every name in the book and threatened me with everything in the book. I just laughed. The only thing even remotely funny was that he proceeded to burglarize her apartment and steal the ring back. I do give him points for that. The other guy, who married the ugly one, I asked him why he did it. His answer? "I just wanted to try something different. " Hello? How is it different? Oh, I know. The first woman you met and married after six weeks was good looking and rich. Shoulda stuck with that.
American men are stupid about women, gullible as hell, unwilling to learn from their mistakes, and live in a dream world.
SavePros321
12-24-14, 18:21
This is an article a wingman sent me yesterday that may be of interest to some:
http://www.takenbythewind.com/2010/09/17/are-north-american-women-really-that-bad/Look at whatelse I found in the comments section:
October 27, 2011 Irene
I am a Colombian girl studying in the US, back in Colombia and while I lived in Europe, I was able to make many connections with women; I am straight but women were always open to me being a woman and actually trying to be friends, it's here in the USA where women according to my experience tend to be ABSOLUTELY AND TOTAL BITCHES!! Sorry but I have never been exposed to such megalomaniacs, competitive, bitchy, angry, psycho, fake, plastic women in my entire life!!! American men on the other hand, strike me as a bit dumb, but very easygoing and open to new people and experiences. I have NOT had a problem finding dates in America, in fact I found my fiance here, an all American boy from Wisconsin who treat me like a princess, but guess what American women..... I EARNED THAT RESPECT AND LOVE. In my country you GIVE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE; I work out because in my country a woman is expected to stay in shape, I wear dresses, skirts, make up because I ENJOY BEING A WOMAN.... women here don't understand the concept of feminity and think feminity = weakness. For example I love cooking, my mom taught me how to cook because it's a mother - daughter bonding thing in my culture, and guess what? I cook for me and my American boyfriend, to the point he now wants to learn how to cook... good luck finding an American girl who can coo, most of his friends dating American women just get chinese or pizza while the slob of an American girlfriend sits there in her pijamas waiting for the food delivery to arrive while drinking beer....... women here have been nothing but evil towards me, and it's because of how I dress, of how I act, they assume I am being fake and pretensious but this is who I am.... I can sense a deep sense of jeaousy in them because they think that by me being feminine and enjoying catering to my man, I am being a fake girl! Let's not even talk about sex, American women have so many hang ups and think Sex is a tool to control men..... it's pathetic but I was branded as a **** because I said I enjoy pleasing my man and being pleased by him. NO WONDER AMERICAN WOMEN OVERSEAS HAVE SUCH A DIFFICULTY FINDING MEN!
ThatGuy865
12-24-14, 18:53
I'm sure ThatGuy865 is a cool guy in person, but he displays way too many Beta Male qualities. I almost want to believe that the real TG865 has moved on from ISG and somehow his wife / ex has commandeered his account and is posting this stuff, LOL.Actually. I've been married twice. And both divorces ended without me being fleeced.
I state from not only my experience but for many that I know. Sure some had to sell the house and split the proceeds. But that is known.
The AVG person does not pay alimony any longer if the wife has a job. If your wife was a "stay at home" wife during your marriage then you knew you would have to pay alimony when divorced. What do you expect. She's been out of the work force for years.
These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.
Delta Indigo
12-24-14, 22:01
Actually. I've been married twice. And both divorces ended without me being fleeced.
I state from not only my experience but for many that I know. Sure some had to sell the house and split the proceeds. But that is known.
The AVG person does not pay alimony any longer if the wife has a job. If your wife was a "stay at home" wife during your marriage then you knew you would have to pay alimony when divorced. What do you expect. She's been out of the work force for years.
These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.I was married once, not entirely out of love, but a willingness to help someone out. Now in the end I got out scot free and she did not try to fleece me and asked for nothing. But knowing that the rules are stacked against me made me very nervous at the time.
I supported her through her education, by supporting her financially, she never supported me financially at all, and by proof reading and writing her papers. There is no way she would have graduated with the average that she had and gone on to a high paying job later on without my help.
I did have investments abroad. Yes she stayed and home and I supported her, then why should she be able to fleece me during a divorce. Why should she be able to take what I worked hard for while I was supporting her and enabling her to earn her own living?
In the end she felt too guilty to try to fleece me and did not ask for anything, but had she tried the courts would have taken her side. Now like the other men on this forum I will be extremely cautious about marriage and so forth. Yes the rules are known, but they are nonetheless stacked against men.
When a woman stays at home, most of the time it is a conscious choice to not have to work and be supported and live comfortably. She knows what the implications for her future working prospects are. Why in that case should a court decide to reward her for years of idleness. That is totally ridiculous and the rules are in fact stacked against men.
All these men are saying is that the rules are stacked against men. Why do you think women are so happy to get married? So that they have the power to blackmail you in the future, what does a man get out of it?
SavePros321
12-24-14, 22:08
These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.Well thankfully I've never been married or ever plan on being married. I also do not have any kids by any AW's.
As far as blaming AW's for my bad choices in life, I am sure you are speaking in general (not directly to me). So far I've done everything right: served my country (did not fall into the trap of marrying my high school sweetheart or the first chick I met right out of boot camp, as did my fellow military brethren); got money for college; worked full time AND went to school full time while keeping my head low, which did not do me any favors as far as my dating or sex life was concerned (actually, I found out about mongering my 2nd year in college, so it was not too hard to stay focused and grind all semester and then go on a week-long bang-a-thon to the DR at the end of the semester); found a great paying job after college; and the rest is history.
I liken my trek to the song "30 Something" by Jay Z in where he says:
"30's the new 20 ni**a I'm so hot still
better broad, better auto mobile"
I was broke for most of my 20's while I was trying to finish school. I went to class by day, and was a security guard by night. You would think chicks would think it noble that a young guy with no kids or excess baggage was trying to better his lot in life by holding down a steady job while going to school to get his degree, but nope. If you weren't balling right then and there then they would not give you a second look. They were not interested in coming along for the long ride: they said "pick me up once you get there." Shit didn't start to turn around for me until my very late 20's and early 30's.
So am I somewhat bitter about AW over that? I was, until I found out about mongering.
The entire time I was in school I was like: "Man, just wait until I get my degree. Then I'll get the best chick and be living the American Dream (trophy wife, big-ass house, nice cars, kids)."
Mongering changed my perspective on all that shit. I realized I can have the best chick I want, when I want, for as long as I want, without the other bullshit that comes along with having a relationship. As long as my passport has not expired and has enough pages in it, I am good!
So for me, there is nothing to be bitter about when it comes to AW's. I only share my experiences with dealing with them. I've already written them off. When I look at my future there are no AW's present, and I am very content with that. In fact, the first opportunity I get to work for myself or do something that generates a nice chunk of passive income, I am out of here!
But until then, I am doing exactly what helped me get through college: grind, keep my head low, and rock out with my cock out in another country every other month or so.
Life is good!
ThatGuy865
12-24-14, 22:36
When a woman stays at home, most of the time it is a conscious choice to not have to work and be supported and live comfortably. She knows what the implications for her future working prospects are. Why in that case should a court decide to reward her for years of idleness. That is totally ridiculous and the rules are in fact stacked against men.
All these men are saying is that the rules are stacked against men. Why do you think women are so happy to get married? So that they have the power to blackmail you in the future, what does a man get out of it?Unfortunately it is NOT the view of men who made the rules. When a woman stays at home. It is not only by her choice it is a mutual agreement. Therefore the man also agreed that her part in the relationship would be the handling of the "Home" responsibilities.
Basically the man is agreeing that her half of the responsibility of the "Contract of Marriage" signed by both the woman and man is the home.
The monetary value awarded is based upon those years of service and level of lifestyle she put in at home. It was a mutual agreement. If the man felt she should contribute money instead of her time at home they should have discussed it and found her a job. But the two agreed and chose that route.
Would it be fair that after a 15 or 20 yr marriage, a woman who has stayed at home all those years have to immediately earn a living with no experience. She should start with nothing.
If that's the case then the guy should not get married in America. And if he does. He cannot blame it on the woman. As it is a system setup by men. And upheld mostly by men.
But I guess some need to vent their frustration.
I'm no AW advocate. I just don't believe any one country has better than women than another. All women are equally frustrating. Each does it in their own way.
In the US, how bad you get fucked really does depend a lot on what state you are in. In my state, whoever has the higher income will be paying child support to the other, assuming 50/50 custody, and alimony (please to call it "maintenance") is fairly limited. But guys don't check on that stuff before they get married. For example, how many of you who own houses know if you live in a recourse state or not? A recourse state means that if you don't pay your mortgage, and the bank forecloses, and the house doesn't sell for as much as the mortgage, they can come after you for the difference. In non-recourse states, they have to take the foreclosure sale proceeds and go away. It kinda makes a difference, if you own a house. Do you even know if you live in a community property state? Similarly too many mongers don't educate themselves about the prostitution, immigration, etc. , laws where they monger. Yeah, a lot of the guys on this board know enough to check up on that kind of stuff, but think of all the other jackoffs running around out there.
=These are no new facts, its been this way since marriage has began. So whose fault is it. You asked her to marry you and probably bought an expense ring when you did it. And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life.== I have never understood the concept of engagement ring. A man spends thousands on a ring, gets on his knees and begs a woman to marry him. The relationship starts with her getting something of value she has yet to earn.
The ring is so she can show all her friends what a sucker you are. Usually the marraige is over before the ring is paid for since most men buy a ring that is more then he can afford.
I will agree with one thing you said, men are stupid when it comes to women. They know the rules are against them and still play.
The game. And they do it over and over until they have nothing left.
Well thankfully I've never been married or ever plan on being married. I also do not have any kids by any AW's.
As far as blaming AW's for my bad choices in life, I am sure you are speaking in general (not directly to me). So far I've done everything right: served my country (did not fall into the trap of marrying my high school sweetheart or the first chick I met right out of boot camp, as did my fellow military brethren); got money for college; worked full time AND went to school full time while keeping my head low, which did not do me any favors as far as my dating or sex life was concerned (actually, I found out about mongering my 2nd year in college, so it was not too hard to stay focused and grind all semester and then go on a week-long bang-a-thon to the DR at the end of the semester); found a great paying job after college; and the rest is history.
I liken my trek to the song "30 Something" by Jay Z in where he says:
"30's the new 20 ni**a I'm so hot still
better broad, better auto mobile"
I was broke for most of my 20's while I was trying to finish school. I went to class by day, and was a security guard by night. You would think chicks would think it noble that a young guy with no kids or excess baggage was trying to better his lot in life by holding down a steady job while going to school to get his degree, but nope. If you weren't balling right then and there then they would not give you a second look. They were not interested in coming along for the long ride: they said "pick me up once you get there." Shit didn't start to turn around for me until my very late 20's and early 30's.
So am I somewhat bitter about AW over that? I was, until I found out about mongering.
The entire time I was in school I was like: "Man, just wait until I get my degree. Then I'll get the best chick and be living the American Dream (trophy wife, big-ass house, nice cars, kids)."
Mongering changed my perspective on all that shit. I realized I can have the best chick I want, when I want, for as long as I want, without the other bullshit that comes along with having a relationship. As long as my passport has not expired and has enough pages in it, I am good!
So for me, there is nothing to be bitter about when it comes to AW's. I only share my experiences with dealing with them. I've already written them off. When I look at my future there are no AW's present, and I am very content with that. In fact, the first opportunity I get to work for myself or do something that generates a nice chunk of passive income, I am out of here!
But until then, I am doing exactly what helped me get through college: grind, keep my head low, and rock out with my cock out in another country every other month or so.
Life is good!SP well done. I also have no reason to be bitter. I never been married and never been fleeced. I just don't like American Women.
I served my country in my teens and 20's. Discovered mongering which changed my perspective. Got out and worked my way up the ladder of success.
Retired now and travel when I want and stay as long as I want. Headed to Pattaya next month.
I love the freedom.
Yeah, my douche bag friend spent $10k in 1995 dollars on the ring he bought for the b!tch he knew for I believe it was four days before marrying her. I got to say, I never thought homie had the stones to burglarize her place to get it back. It was funny. She did not know me but knew he was coming up to my town to see me. I took him to a strip club, he took off with a stripper and never went back, and within a week she had a restraining order on his ass. But he had the last laugh. Then the fucker took up with this woman who was a doctor and then decided to get her law degree. I think she makes a bit of money, wouldn't you? And that fucker hasn't even tried to work in years. Said it would just put them in a higher tax bracket. Oh yeah, and I forgot; his first wife, whom he knew for six weeks, left him for another woman.
Anyway, 12 more days in this country for me this time around, and then adios for at least a couple of years. Y'all have fun now!
SavePros321
12-25-14, 00:00
Anyway, 12 more days in this country for me this time around, and then adios for at least a couple of years. Y'all have fun now!Lucky SOB! Don't forget about the rest of us here on lock down in sex prison waiting for our parole date (next mongering trip), LOL.
SavePros321
12-25-14, 00:16
SP well done. I also have no reason to be bitter. I never been married and never been fleeced. I just don't like American Women.
I served my country in my teens and 20's. Discovered mongering which changed my perspective. Got out and worked my way up the ladder of success.
Retired now and travel when I want and stay as long as I want. Headed to Pattaya next month.
I love the freedom.Thanks TellAll. We have to stay winning!
And congratulations to you on what sounds like a very successful retirement: You are living the dream! Feel free to impart on us young'ins what it took to achieve such success. I'm sure having little to no consumer debt (credit cards, auto loans) and contributing to a 401K was part of the mix, correct?
Mr Enternational
12-25-14, 01:04
I have never understood the concept of engagement ring. A man spends thousands on a ring, gets on his knees and begs a woman to marry him. The relationship starts with her getting something of value she has yet to earn.
The ring is so she can show all her friends what a sucker you are. Usually the marraige is over before the ring is paid for since most men buy a ring that is more then he can afford.
I will agree with one thing you said, men are stupid when it comes to women. They know the rules are against them and still play.
The game. And they do it over and over until they have nothing left.The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.
The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.So true it is all marketing. What else can you take used, put it in a different setting and then sell again as new? Guys wake up.
The concept is that it has made DeBeers a lot of damn money. Diamonds are intrinsically worthless. But with the right advertisement people will buy anything. So why wouldn't DeBeers put the word out that diamonds are a girl's best friend? I wonder how much of that $10 K Dickhead's friend was able to recoup.He got less because he had to take the diamonds out of the setting since they were now hot as hell. IIRC it was $6,500.
Naked Gunz
12-26-14, 04:18
American men are stupid about women, gullible as hell, unwilling to learn from their mistakes, and live in a dream world.What do you expect when your raised in a culture that fosters the double standards that exist today. As I said, certain members of American society have been brutalized by Anglo power structure since the landing on Plymouth Rock. Since this forum is labeled American Women, I'll limit the example to them. They only got the right to vote less than 100 years ago, and were constrained to the kitchen, frequently beaten and dumped by men they loved, with no recourse. Fast forward to the new millennium. In support of women's rights, men rights have been sacrificed. The pendulum is not in the middle, but on the other side. Prime example of marriage injustice: Retired veterans must pay half their retirement to the ex for life. Despite finding the bitches screwing half the fleet while your on deployment. In my time in the Navy I worked 8 hour days and stood two 4 hour watches in one day. Been constantly exposed to elements, endured endless sleepless nights, and on and on. We are talking about guys in the desert of Afghanistan. I am not saying ALL military wives are like that, but I have seen some real sluts wearing the military wife tag.
And now you're bitter and blaming AW for your bad choices in life."Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Like I said- The judge was more than ready to award alimony to a "Gainfully Employed Women" that I was divorcing. I'm just one guy. How many others are getting this shit. Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it does not exist MOE-RON! I'm in favor of equitable laws and for all parties. We all know the justice system is not fair. You get the justice you pay for. Solution: Avoid the problem-don't get married- just bang LBFM.
ThatGuy865
12-26-14, 16:46
The judge was more than ready to award alimony to a "Gainfully Employed Women" that I was divorcing. I'm just one guy. How many others are getting this shit. Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it does not exist MOE-RON! I'm in favor of equitable laws and for all parties. We all know the justice system is not fair. You get the justice you pay for. Solution: Avoid the problem-don't get married- just bang LBFM."The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry.
I can't speak to your situation as we are only hearing one side. Which is clearly bias.
No one states every man gets a fair outcome. Of course. Some will get screwed. But that is not the woman's fault. Its the system and both signed up for it.
In fact. The man. Went out bought an expensive ring and asked her to marry him. And then you blame the woman. Get serious.
Whether or not he gets screwed in the end. He knew ahead of time what can happen. And he. The man asked the aw to get married.
Man up and take some responsibility for your decisions. Right its her fault. She pussy whipped you and made you do it.
Tg865
Naked Gunz
12-26-14, 22:47
Actually. I've been married twice.
"The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry. Take your own advice before you start dishing it.
SeizeTheDay
12-27-14, 02:00
"The choices one makes. Dictates the life we lead" seems you chose poorly. Choose your women wisely that you marry.
I can't speak to your situation as we are only hearing one side. Which is clearly bias.
No one states every man gets a fair outcome. Of course. Some will get screwed. But that is not the woman's fault. Its the system and both signed up for it.
In fact. The man. Went out bought an expensive ring and asked her to marry him. And then you blame the woman. Get serious.
Whether or not he gets screwed in the end. He knew ahead of time what can happen. And he. The man asked the aw to get married.
Man up and take some responsibility for your decisions. Right its her fault. She pussy whipped you and made you do it.
Tg865ThatGuy is absolutely right. This is why I am a domestic MGTOW (Man going his own way) and an international monger. I will never blame a woman for stealing half of my stuff or making me pay alimony or child support. Because I refuse to have sex with these women and I will never have children or get married. I refuse to one night stand women or have a girlfriend or live with a woman. I want nothing to do with these women; I only have sex when there is money involved. I understand that these are rather extremists measures but being a millennial with 2015 rapidly approaching I cannot take any chances. I am sure ThatGuy will support everything I am saying unless he wants to be labeled a hypocrite. For myself I really believe these women have no choice but to take advantage of the biased laws and current societal standards. I honestly do not believe woman have the cognitive reasoning ability or the compassion to overcome their biological precursors that beckon her to filet a man emotionally, psychologically, and financially. I do not adhere to the modern notion that men and women are the same. In my opinion getting angry at woman for betraying a man is like getting angry at a toddler for spilling his milk, it is pointless and irrational. So then what is a man oppressed by the current feminist, socialist, politically correct regime supposed to do? Fucking leave, quit this captain save a chick persona. If they want to play that game then, no more husbands, dates, free dinners, boyfriends, shoulders to cry on. Leave these responsibilities to white knights and ThatGuy865. Focus on the reason this forum exists, paying for pussy. And I am sure 90% of the West and many guys here would disagree with this idea, but please someone tell me what is so great about dating these women in the West. What benefit is there, why does the mysticism of fucking non-pro Western girls persist. How many formerly married guys wished they had bought pros from the start? How many of you reading this right now think their lives would have been better if they would have just paid upfront out of hand instead of later out of ass. If enough guys say fuck this I am going to DR, PHIL, COL, BRZ, THAI, sooner or later these women will come crawling back begging. But it will be too late. Or maybe there are enough white knights and ThoseGuys8065's to go around for Western women, either way I know I am over the hill happy with the path I have chosen for my life. But with all the articles about depression among women, I cannot say the same for the ladies of the western world. In the end women need good men and men just need a good GFE.
Mr Enternational
12-27-14, 02:41
If enough guys say fuck this I am going to DR, PHIL, COL, BRZ, THAI, sooner or later these women will come crawling back begging. But it will be too late.Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."
QUOTE from SeizeTheDay: How many formerly married guys wished they had bought pros from the start? A: All of them that I know. The male amongst most species in the animal kingdom is a serial [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) who takes what he wants, when he wants it and how he wants it. Homo sapiens in America the vast majority of males have allowed themselves to be psychologically castrated. Just my. 02. I don't pretend to be an expert on this. Never married and considered a genius by my married to AW buddies.
Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."Agreed.
There are to many guys overseas trying to do things by western standards and getting royaly fucked for it. It is like they never learn and continue to be the same limp dick he was in the US getting financially raped by women.
I say leave them in the west. Too many guys like that could fuck it up for the rest of us.
SeizeTheDay
12-27-14, 04:40
Ha. You keep dreaming. If that happens then the guys will just turn those women into the ones they claim to be trying to get away from. I have seen it too many times. You guys make everything about money then get pissed when reality becomes just that. Go on any of these threads and you will see, "Well she wasn't a hooker, but I gave her a "gift" of x amount before she left."We agree. When I stated those countries, I was referring to going there for mongering purposes only. To each his own I say but I would never advocate the pursuit of non-pros. I am just not a fan of that route. I do not see the desire to go outside the West for non-pros either, as you and TellAll mentioned these guys fuck it up anyway. A financial mark is a mark regardless of the country he is in. I think the non-pro route is futile because women everywhere are the same even though women everywhere are nothing alike. By this I mean that in general heterosexual males and females share the same biological instincts relative to their gender. Men all over the planet in general have the instinct to dominate, protect their family and fuck. Women all over the planet in general have the instinct to have children, nurture their children, procreate with men that possess the best genetics, and extract resources from men. Where women differ is the extent to which a woman can manifest her biological impulses is directly proportional to the society in which she resides, whether it is matriarchal or patriarchal. Western society is matriarchal which gives women freedom to do as they please. Someone in this thread recently called America conservative I agree only in pertinence to men. No one complains about women gathering to get railroaded night after night at nightclubs. Single mothers are looked upon as the strong pillars of society. It is only men that are constrained in the sexuality. For example I dragged my sister to see Gone Girl (A film I highly recommend to all heterosexual nonwhite knight men.) and during the promos for future films up pops the "filthy shades of grey filth" promo. Some introverted chick that wants to be gagged, tied like a hog, blindfolded, strangled, and fucked right there for Grammy and Grandpa to see. How the fuck is that conservative? But all in all I agree with you. Some guys are trying to turn non-pros into pros without even knowing it. Either be her S&M buckaroo and lasso the chick or just keep it simple and pay for the pussy.
Naked Gunz
12-30-14, 03:17
She woke up. Too late for her, but she finally woke the f*ck up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yourtango/7-huge-mistakes-i-made-as_b_6355374.html
Don't forget the most important fact. When you get rid of an AW, any secret you told her that can hurt you becomes public knowledge. She will even make shit up if it can cause you problems. She will do this even if she gets what she wants in a split.
Sometimes it even cost them and they don't seem to care.This is so, so true! This is how AW are! I asked a good female friend about it who explained to me why. You see, women are emotional beings, and what they want to do is get at you emotionally. They don't just want your money. They see things differently. The way a woman does. Which means that want to harm your emotions as well as take your money. Only then are they satisfied. Money + emotional distress = female vengeance!
Unfortunately it is NOT the view of men who made the rules. When a woman stays at home. It is not only by her choice it is a mutual agreement. Therefore the man also agreed that her part in the relationship would be the handling of the "Home" responsibilities. Basically the man is agreeing that her half of the responsibility of the "Contract of Marriage" signed by both the woman and man is the home. I'm no AW advocate. I just don't believe any one country has better than women than another.This strikes me as incredibly naive! Do you know how many guys I know who complain and skulk about their lazy, fat ass wives not only refusing to work but not doing jack shit around the house either? A prime reason for divorce is money (typically not having enough of it). Too many AW want to sit back on their lazy hind parts and expect the man to do every fucking thing! And it's not all by "agreement" as you suggest.
And by the way, what "signed contract of marriage" are you referring to that says the man and the woman agree that she stays at home? I didn't know there were such standard written contractual obligations in all marriages that demonstrated a meeting of the minds between husband and wife about who stays home and who gets their ass up every morning and goes to a job. You just lost a lot of credibility making an assertion as silly as that one dude.
You say you're not an AW advocate, but I've read several of your posts and you sure come across like one, just like in this post you made, which is pretty devoid of reality and the way many people are actually leading their married lives, along with the conflicts they face that threaten their marital unions. These situations (women not wanting to work or do anything at all) contribute to the failure of marriages. She doesn't want to work, but she really needs to in order to support the family. This is more common than you apparently realize. How unbelievably naive and biased your view as stated here! Wow.
She woke up. Too late for her, but she finally woke the f*ck up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/yourtango/7-huge-mistakes-i-made-as_b_6355374.htmlShe did all that BS but as she said she's not looking for forgiveness. I dare say there were probably more issues she doesn't mention. I applaud him for getting the fuck out and finding a little happiness.
I've dated a number of women over the years who had been in failed marriages and bad relationships before they met me. We'd get to talking about our pasts, and I can honestly say that not a one of them ever took any responsibility for their failed relationships with men! Not one! It was always the guy's fault. I would ask in a non-threatening way if they thought that maybe they might have done anything at all to contribute to the problem. The answer was always, "No, I didn't do anything wrong at all". And what was so hilarious about it is that I would date these women for just two weeks and see all kinds of things that they did wrong to chase men away, including me! Two weeks! LMAO!
Oh I would actually stick around for longer than the two weeks (usually), but eventually for whatever reason my dates with these women would come to an end. Sometimes, but not always, maybe there was some kind of falling out about something or another. I guess that got me added to the shit list too LOL! You know, they would get mad and talk about how they had been married before and been in relationships and blah, blah, blah. Well the operative word was "been" because as I would remind them, they were in marriages and relationships that failed! Then how about throwing a little fuel on the fire by telling them that I would take my advice on how to have a successful marriage or a lasting serious relationship from somebody who had actually had one of those. Hahaha! Oh man, they would become livid then! But, I was just speaking the truth. The hurtful truth. And they knew it. I'll take the sex lady, but I say bunk to marriage! Thank you very much!
ThatGuy865
12-31-14, 17:42
I can honestly say that not a one of them ever took any responsibility for their failed relationships...I think some could say the same for some of the men on this thread!
I would ask in a non-threatening way if they thought that maybe they might have done anything at all to contribute to the problem. The answer was always, "No, I didn't do anything wrong at all".Hmmm, curious.
I've had the exact same conversation with my male divorced / divorcing / wish they could divorce but for the kids friends and they all say exactly the same thing as your female interviewees.
The can't all be right (or wrong), can they?
Naked Gunz
01-01-15, 17:35
The can't all be right (or wrong), can they?I personally accept 50% of the fault for the failure of my marriage. Your half the problem. In many cases, a married couple are two idiots that deserve each other. Marriage is one of the worst institutions in modern society, that takes way too much work and money. I also personally think that having kids is waaay overrated. The vast majority in the US can't afford them, they will be educated by a failed education system, and parents are being forced by societal rules on how to raise them. The smart money goes toward a very early vasectomy, combined with lifelong trips to DR, Brazil, Colombia, etc.
SavePros321
01-01-15, 18:23
Also most women are undercover hookers anywayI took this from the Sosua forum. It somewhat backs up your belief in this. The conversation was between a Senior Member who banged a chick in Cuba who was not a prostitute, and another Senior Member who thinks she should have been compensated for the time she spent with Senior Member A:
Aside from you paying for dinner and liquor for everybody, did you give Anna any money or compensation for all of that time she spent with you? I mean before you left Cuba to go home? If not, I can see how she might feel she has to make up for not getting compensated for her time.
Had you worked out any arrangement or discussed anything about compensating her? Probably not! Throughout your time with Anna, even if she never point blank asked you for money, did she ever discuss with you areas where she needs things or money? Not asking directly, but telling you some of her life problems and needs? Moreover, You haven't been with this women for months or years. How likely would it be that eventually you were going to learn as much as she wanted you to know about her shortcomings in life, and where one could help if they wanted to?
What is interesting to me, is that even though she didn't ask for anything while you were together, she didn't waste any time getting around to being direct after you left. A question arises from that; is her not asking for anything when you were together as impressive to you now, since she finally came out and asked directly? For me, I would regard my 1st impression as just me not knowing the girl was playing the waiting game. Not that she really didn't want anything from me. She did want something from me all along. She was just fulfilling my fantasy and not destroying the vibe. Maybe she was hoping for compensation before you left without having to ask. Many young women expect that from dudes older than them.See? No reason to have a girlfriend or to get married ANYWHERE in the world. If non-hookers expect you to compensate them for the time you spend with them, why not just use that same money with an Escort or Pro? At least Senior Member A (Mr. Gogo) got some ass at the end of the night from the chica in Cuba. AW's expect you to pick up the tab on multiple dates, and even then there's no guarantee she'll put out. Money and time wasted on AW's and Non Pros (in other countries). They are all undercover hookers anyway, hahaha.
See? No reason to have a girlfriend or to get married ANYWHERE in the world. If non-hookers expect you to compensate them for the time you spend with them, why not just use that same money with an Escort or Pro? At least Senior Member A (Mr. Gogo) got some ass at the end of the night from the chica in Cuba. AW's expect you to pick up the tab on multiple dates, and even then there's no guarantee she'll put out. Money and time wasted on AW's and Non Pros (in other countries). They are all undercover hookers anyway, hahaha.One time I had a date overseas with a woman I had met through an online dating site (not a P4 P thing). We got together for dinner and had a generally pleasant good time. I thought the first date (turned out to be the last) went OK. I paid for dinner, and once we got outside she turns to me and asks for money! I asked her why I should give her some cash money, and she says "because it's a holiday" and "for my time". Now that pissed me off! I paid for her dinner, and what the hell about my time? Was that not worth anything!
Just to test her out, I asked her how much money she wanted. She said "whatever you want to give me. " I told her "no" and that I was not going to give her anything! I then excused myself to go do a little bit of grocery shopping (and obviously never intending to call her again). After I left the grocery store, I saw her sitting on a nearby bench frantically texting on her cell phone. She was so engrossed in what she was doing that she didn't see me pass by. A few days later she sent me a message on the dating site saying that she enjoyed meeting me and apologized for asking for money. I blocked her ass to make sure I would never hear from her again! And I didn't. Some people!
Naked Gunz
01-02-15, 00:48
One time I had a date overseas with a woman I had met through an online dating site (not a P4 P thing). She didn't even offer any extra activity? What country Cane?
She didn't even offer any extra activity? What country Cane?Hell no she didn't offer any "extra activity". But, I wasn't looking for that either on a first date as I am not one of those who, either consciously or subconsciously, starts treating "normal" girls as P4 P girls. I remain very aware of who and what I'm dealing with at all times (although I agree with the assertion that at some basic level all women are tutes). For some personal reasons, I prefer not to say exactly which country. I'll just say a country in eastern Europe. But just what kind of simp did she think I was anyway LOL? I showed her what kind. Gets to stepping right out of my life chick! LOL!
Hell no she didn't offer any "extra activity". But, I wasn't looking for that either on a first date as I am not one of those who, either consciously or subconsciously, starts treating "normal" girls as P4 P girls. I remain very aware of who and what I'm dealing with at all times (although I agree with the assertion that at some basic level all women are tutes). For some personal reasons, I prefer not to say exactly which country. I'll just say a country in eastern Europe. But just what kind of simp did she think I was anyway LOL? I showed her what kind. Gets to stepping right out of my life chick! LOL!Hmmm unidentified country probably Ubek. Too many broads everywhere must think that men are just their ATMs. It's ok though. Us guys know better. Too many fat and ugly ones with too many issues and baggage, too. Wait until Hillary Clinton gets elected. She will take the ruin that Obama has done to the next level.
I read two articles this weekend that I think are VERY interesting regarding relationships with American / Western women.
One is about finding a feminist boyfriend / husband. It is so ridiculous that I now suspect it was satire. The author instructs women on how to identify men who support feminist goals and ideology and instructs men on how to better project feminist sympathies so as to attract more women. It came across to me as encouraging men to take on the traditional feminine role in relationships with women.
The other is about developing an alternative to traditional marriage. Academics are noting the decline in marriage rates and rise in divorce rates, especially among the poor and non-college educated. They further note that the main losers in this are the children who are born in such failed unions and are now being raised in single parent households and in poverty. One academic in particular, a woman named Belle Sawhill, is suggesting an arrangement in which a couple contract to live together for a certain number of years, agree to have a certain number of children, and then separate at the end of that time period and / or when the children are adults.
Some readers left interesting comments.
The other is about developing an alternative to traditional marriage. Academics are noting the decline in marriage rates and rise in divorce rates, especially among the poor and non-college educated. They further note that the main losers in this are the children who are born in such failed unions and are now being raised in single parent households and in poverty. One academic in particular, a woman named Belle Sawhill, is suggesting an arrangement in which a couple contract to live together for a certain number of years, agree to have a certain number of children, and then separate at the end of that time period and / or when the children are adults.I remember having a discussion with a college roomie many years ago who advocated this very same approach. Hey, if we went to this written contract approach to marriage, then we could write in ThatGuy's language about who stays home and who goes to work LOL! Get it all in writing and deal with any failures to act according to the deal as a "breach of contract". On second thought, we're already far too litigious a society here in the States!
Get it all in writing and deal with any failures to act according to the deal as a "breach of contract". Yeah, get it in writing. Too much trust will only lead to horrible bitterness.
SavePros321
01-08-15, 15:53
Good article for those of you still playing the North American internet dating scene. Sure wish I had this guide back in the early days of internet dating. I've been tricked by my fair share of fatties, LOL.
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Like it or not, online dating is gradually taking over. As the American woman becomes more socially retarded by the minute, liable to blow her r@pe whistle if a man who isn't already among her 10,000 Facebook "friends" should so much as say Hello, to herit behooves men to adapt to the shifting dating landscape. An online-dating profile has been a part of my repertoire for some time, and it's supplied me with a healthy dose of fornications, stories to tell, and above all, wisdom.
I needn't tell you that online dating is jam packed with a host of nuisances and perils. There's the over-confident 6 whose ego has been artificially inflated by the fawning online attention of thirsty guys to the degree that she delusionally carries on like a 9 whenever she cracks open her MacBook. There's the girl with the manifesto-like profile, itemizing unreasonable demands like a hostage-taker in a movie bank robbery. Then there are the brutally repetitive jokes, clichs, and "witty" remarks that women merely copycat from one anotherand television. She's preparing for the zombie apocalypse. You should message her if you know the difference between to / too / two and there / they're / their. She took a skydiving picture. She did a novelty race where they spray you with colored powder at the end.
All of those pale in comparison to the mother of all of online-dating dangers: the Notorious S. I. F. the Secret Internet Fatty. Talk to any man who has shown up to an online date with a cute girl, only to meet 30 pounds more of that girl than he expected, and you'll know that it's among the worst sinking feelings you can have on a first date. You've been tricked and on purpose.
Girls today are masters at photographing themselves in the most flattering way possible. And, all you need to do is shadow a few of them for one night to understand how they acquired that skill: girls today spend a better part of their day taking pictures of themselves, and each other. Not only do they have thousands of pictures from which to cherry-pick the best ones, they have countless hours of practice in posing, emphasizing, and concealing. Moreover, girls receive constant input from other girls as well as their desperate online male admirers about when they look their best. A college-aged girl has an advanced knowledge of her physique and photography far beyond the average guy, even 10 years her elder. The undiscerning male online-dater is simply no match for this training.
So, what can the average man do to avoid being Secret Internet Fattied in today's online-dating world? Learn to look for the tell-tale signs of the SIF:
1. Has no body shots, only tightly cropped face shots, or very few pictures in the profile.
No matter how much feminists and fatties kick and scream otherwise, girls are hardwired to know that their body is their number-one asset in attracting a mate. If a girl conceals this information from you, you can rest assured there's a (good) reason. It will never be an accident. An all-headshots profile will mean a dumpy, fat body.
2. Apparent wild swings in body weight in her photographs.
You can be certain that if she has pictures of her as both thin and as fat, she's currently in the fat stage.
3. Pictured with food or talks about loving food.
Fat girls take a lot of pictures of themselves with food because, quite simply, they spend a lot of their time eating, and eating out is the only social activity they know. A girl who talks about how much she loves food or how much of a "foodie" she is lives to eat rather than eats to live. That almost always means fat.
4. Has fat friends.
There's good science that shows that female friend-groups gain weight together. If she associates with fatties, according to her pictures, there's a good chance she's fat herself by now.
5. Uses Myspace angles, or similar forms of photographic subterfuge.
Myspace Angles, that is, taking picture from above to reduce her visible size, may be an old trick, but it sticks around because it works.
6. You cant see her collar bone.
One thing Myspace Angles and similar tricks can't hide is the absence of a collar bone. If you can't see it, she's overweight.
7. Has sausage fingers.
Even if she succeeds in hiding everything else, her hands are a reliable tell-tale physical sign.
8. Overemphasis of one feature, to the exclusion of others.
Since girls are keenly aware of their bodies, they know what looks good and what doesn't. If they're only showing you one thing repeatedly, it's because there's something wrong with the rest.
9. Describes herself as average or curvy.
"Average" and "curvy" have become, almost exclusively, euphemisms for fatness. Even "athletic" isn't a reliable predictor of a fit physique, since a lot of fat girls will do zumba one day a week, only to drink Starbucks milkshakes on the other six.
10. No new-looking pictures.
One of the most effective tricks is to simply use pictures from when you were skinny. While there's no reliable way to inoculate yourself against this move, you should look out for signs that her pictures aren't new. How's the image quality? What's happening in the background? What do the captions say?
http://www.returnofkings.com/19383/10-tell-tale-signs-shes-a-secret-internet-fatty
Naked Gunz
01-09-15, 07:04
7. Has sausage fingers.I look at the arms also. Dead give away.
Even if she succeeds in hiding everything else, her hands are a reliable tell-tale physical sign.Sexy hands are my turn on.
Naked Gunz
01-11-15, 14:58
She does seem to want to grow a cock and emasculate her man. Notice how AW criticized her for having a successful marriage. And she's hot. Good for them.
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/candace-cameron-bure-i-want-my-husband-to-lead-107638431337.html
She does seem to want to grow a cock and emasculate her man. Notice how AW criticized her for having a successful marriage. And she's hot. Good for them.
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/candace-cameron-bure-i-want-my-husband-to-lead-107638431337.htmlNice. She's one in a million. I was reading in the Santo Domingo thread (DR) about some guy bringing a dominicana back to USA and, as others know, not a good idea. The term he used was "bitchinized". I think this applies to any foreign woman who spends any length of time here in USA, especially East coast or California (besides maybe a short visit). Keep them in their home country where they are not tainted by the fat ass, mouthy see*s that characterize AWs (and from what I've heard many Europeans, Canadians and Australian feminists). Thank God for foreign women!
ThatGuy865
01-11-15, 23:17
Nice. She's one in a million. I was reading in the Santo Domingo thread (DR) about some guy bringing a dominicana back to USA and, as others know, not a good idea. The term he used was "bitchinized". I think this applies to any foreign woman who spends any length of time here in USA, especially East coast or California (besides maybe a short visit). Keep them in their home country where they are not tainted by the fat ass, mouthy see*s that characterize AWs (and from what I've heard many Europeans, Canadians and Australian feminists). Thank God for foreign women!That alone show what most know. The women are not different. Its their environment. If the woman were naturally different and that's how she wanted to be. You could take her anywhere and she should remain the same.
But what this show and as you even stated. If they are in an environment where they can have the choice and ability. They don't want to be the docile women they must be in their countries.
TG865
Naked Gunz
01-12-15, 17:10
Santo Domingo thread (DR) about some guy bringing a dominicana back to USA and, as others know, not a good idea. The term he used was "bitchinized". I think this applies to any foreign woman who spends any length of time here in USA, Thank God for foreign women!He should have known better. I witnessed Dominicans being biatches in their own country. That can be a tough place. Pinays, in my opinion, have the best temperament and are reasonably safe to bring back to the 1st world. I have seen many, many successful unions of AM / Pinay, and relatively few examples of them turning against the man.
ThatGuy865
01-12-15, 17:28
He should have known better. I witnessed Dominicans being biatches in their own country. That can be a tough place. Pinays, in my opinion, have the best temperament and are reasonably safe to bring back to the 1st world. I have seen many, many successful unions of AM / Pinay, and relatively few examples of them turning against the man.You obviously don't live in or been to Southern California. San Diego and L. A. Are full of "Green card" pinays who left their "Old" husbands for green pastures. Especially military.
That's how I found out about Angeles city. We used to got to Chula Vista and National city (one of the biggest cities w / filipinos) where the filipina's hang out to score. The after party was T. J. It's there a Navy guy schooled us about AC and Subic (showing pics of his escapades). The rest is history.
He should have known better. I witnessed Dominicans being biatches in their own country. That can be a tough place. Pinays, in my opinion, have the best temperament and are reasonably safe to bring back to the 1st world. I have seen many, many successful unions of AM / Pinay, and relatively few examples of them turning against the man.I agree. One of my best friends is married to a pinay and through them I know many pinay married here. Most live in happy marriages.
I agree. One of my best friends is married to a pinay and through them I know many pinay married here. Most live in happy marriages.No, no, no, this threads purpose is to bemoan and vilify. Your perfidious vile will earn you no points here despite being a fresh breath of reason.
Mr Enternational
01-12-15, 21:13
You obviously don't live in or been to Southern California. San Diego and L. A. Are full of "Green card" pinays who left their "Old" husbands for green pastures. Especially military.
That's how I found out about Angeles city. We used to got to Chula Vista and National city (one of the biggest cities w / filipinos) where the filipina's hang out to score. The after party was T. J. It's there a Navy guy schooled us about AC and Subic (showing pics of his escapades). The rest is history.You ain't out there fucking all my Trophy Lounge Pinays are you? 25 years ago it was open season on $1 drink night. I got my first traffic ticket in front of that place.
I will say though that things are different for 2nd generation who was born here. But for the ones who came and still come from PI the old adage is still in full effect.
SavePros321
01-12-15, 21:30
No, no, no, this threads purpose is to bemoan and vilify. Your perfidious vile will earn you no points here despite being a fresh breath of reason.Noticed he said is best friend is married to a Pinay and NOT an American Woman.
Get a clue bro.
Noticed he said is best friend is married to a Pinay and NOT an American Woman.
Get a clue bro.A clue? ROFL! Now she's as American as you are "bro".
Noticed he said is best friend is married to a Pinay and NOT an American Woman.
Get a clue bro.Well let's call them PAWs for Pinay American Women. My best friend married one, put her through nursing school (here) and then watched his retirement savings go down the drain with her excessive spending and gambling and sending 40% of her income to moocher relatives in the PI. In another case my backyard neighbor's nephew married a Filipina and she is taking him for everything he has. One of my cousins same thing. Sure, there are exceptions but good luck with that. The odds are against you.
...The odds are against you...Which is actually true. As a Pinoy guy, I am tired of Pinays (and AW regardless of ethnicity), wherever they are in the world. In most instances the Pinay would prioritize her family over you because she got you hooked via marriage or the kid. It is ironic because you are already supposed to be "part of the family".
My observation during my short stint in the military is a lot of the Pinays the guys marry come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. When the girl get their green card all bets are off. It is not surprising they will transform into profligate spenders and sending excessive amounts of money back home.
Well let's call them PAWs for Pinay American Women. My best friend married one, put her through nursing school (here) and then watched his retirement savings go down the drain with her excessive spending and gambling and sending 40% of her income to moocher relatives in the PI. In another case my backyard neighbor's nephew married a Filipina and she is taking him for everything he has. One of my cousins same thing. Sure, there are exceptions but good luck with that. The odds are against you.Any woman you bring here is likely to screw you over in the end. Mainly because to her you are only a ticket here and the influence of her Americanized friends. Once she learns the ropes, watch out.
SavePros321
01-13-15, 01:56
Well let's call them PAWs for Pinay American Women. My best friend married one, put her through nursing school (here) and then watched his retirement savings go down the drain with her excessive spending and gambling and sending 40% of her income to moocher relatives in the PI. In another case my backyard neighbor's nephew married a Filipina and she is taking him for everything he has. One of my cousins same thing. Sure, there are exceptions but good luck with that. The odds are against you.I get it. Apparently Rjsss212 doesn't. He just about nutted in his pants when he saw AskeAske's post, then you guys (you, NTambay, and TellAll) had to go go and crush his world again, LOL.
Mr Enternational
01-13-15, 01:59
Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas (Brazil, Colombia, Philippines, Russia, South Africa) to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses. 23 year old Brazilian chick telling a 38 year old man that he is not allowed to have a bachelor party and has to throw out all his Playboy books. Biotch I will throw you out before I throw these books out.
Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses.Oh yeah man, I watched the first season of that show and watched one episode of the current season. Got so pissed off I had to stop watching the shit before my blood pressure shot up as high as a Georgia pine! I can't believe the one guy from North Africa who came all the way over to the USA to marry some fat, ugly, broke AW! Must want that green card some kind of bad! I saw where he was on the cell phone and it cut off because she hadn't paid the bill LOLOLOL! The guys on that show are pathetic!
http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance
SavePros321
01-13-15, 02:56
Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas (Brazil, Colombia, Philippines, Russia, South Africa) to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses. 23 year old Brazilian chick telling a 38 year old man that he is not allowed to have a bachelor party and has to throw out all his Playboy books. Biotch I will throw you out before I throw these books out.Of course they are going to only show emasculated men being dominated by the woman. It's better for ratings. Just look at that Love and Hip Hop bullshit show with those ghetto azz ho3z poppin off at the mouth.
How does that 90 day Visa stuff work? Do you have to marry them in the end? Because if I could find a bad-ass Ukrainian chick, fuck the shit out of her for 90 days, then send her back home and grab another one, I don't see how that could be a bad thing at all, LOL!
Naked Gunz
01-13-15, 05:14
You obviously don't live in or been to Southern California. San Diego and L. A. Are full of "Green card" pinays who left their "Old" husbands for green pastures. Especially military. That's how I found out about Angeles city. We used to got to Chula Vista and National city (one of the biggest cities w / filipinos) where the filipina's hang out to score. The after party was T. J. It's there a Navy guy schooled us about AC and Subic (showing pics of his escapades). The rest is history.You don't need to explain Cali to me Mr. I will protect the fair sex on ISG AW thread to my death. As a Navy vet, I HAVE lived in San Diego for over 15 years, Oakland 8 years, and Long Beach another 4. I have been in one of those homes of a fellow sailor that married a complete Pinay (cu*nt). If you bother to PLEASE READ and FULLY COMPREHEND MY POSTS AT LEAST ONCE, you would have noticed that I said I have seen a FEW examples of scandalous Pinays. Why am I the only member you attack BTW? You (pu$$y) away from everyone else.
You have only been to AC, so of course your only around the hoes. In your WASP world you think only AW are capable of being virtuous women. That guys wife would not even acknowledge my presence when I went to their home to buy his computer. He was just an poor sap that was from a small town and not street savvy enough to see what I saw in two minutes. About six months later he walked around work always angry after having been taken to the cleaners. Those are the guys that get taken in the Navy.
Naked Gunz
01-13-15, 06:27
Of course they are going to only show emasculated men being dominated by the woman. It's better for ratings. Just look at that Love and Hip Hop bullshit show with those ghetto azz ho3z poppin off at the mouth.Did you see the show with Ocho-Cinco and his GF that he eventually head-butted? They were at each others throats, and I don't even watch this reality BS! I only watched a few seconds of a promo. He is STUPID! Athletes are not know for their high IQ for sure. How can they not see the most artificial money hungry women this country can produce just waiting to use them up. This absolute worst thing in the world is a beautiful woman that knows it.
.How does that 90 day Visa stuff work? Do you have to marry them in the end? Because if I could find a bad-ass Ukrainian chick, fuck the shit out of her for 90 days, then send her back home and grab another one, I don't see how that could be a bad thing at all, LOL! OK, here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wW7c58nMI4 Well, the pickings are a bit worked over. Only the 65 yo guy had a really hot one.
With the fiance visa you have to marry within 90 days. Download a movie called "Mail Order Bride". Its great and seems totally real. The actor in it has since gone on to several tv comercials and show, so this is not a spoiler alert. In this video link they seem to have cought on that these guys are there only to fuck them and leave.
ThatGuy865
01-13-15, 19:27
Any woman you bring here is likely to screw you over in the end. Mainly because to her you are only a ticket here and the influence of her Americanized friends. Once she learns the ropes, watch out.As I stated. Yours and statements of others show. Women are the same the world over, given the opportunity and resources.
Once women from any country, are brought to the USA and they learn of their rights and opportunities. Most become the same as AW.
The reason they act differently in their home countries is because. They do not have the ability to prosper (gainful employment), nor social safety nets (women shelters, programs to aid them). That even a broke / homeless women in the USA Would receive. In their countries they are dependent on men to assist with these needs.
So of course. The foreigner who is already perceived as wealthy and well behaved. Will be treated like a king. Because to them he can provide like a king. Its not cultural or they are naturally great wives. Its need. Pure and simple. Since they need a man. Better it be a foreigner who can provide more than a local.
As I stated. Yours and statements of others show. Women are the same the world over, given the opportunity and resources.
Once women from any country, are brought to the USA and they learn of their rights and opportunities. Most become the same as AW.
The reason they act differently in their home countries is because. They do not have the ability to prosper (gainful employment), nor social safety nets (women shelters, programs to aid them). That even a broke / homeless women in the USA Would receive. In their countries they are dependent on men to assist with these needs.
So of course. The foreigner who is already perceived as wealthy and well behaved. Will be treated like a king. Because to them he can provide like a king. Its not cultural or they are naturally great wives. Its need. Pure and simple. Since they need a man. Better it be a foreigner who can provide more than a local.Whatever the reason the fact is a man will get treated a whole lot better in other areas of the world than here.
Nothing wrong with a little tit for tat as long as both parties get what they want. The problem in america it's one sided. A man gives a lot of tat and instead of tit he gets shit from his female counterpart. I think I'll pass.
By the way ThatGuy, you have way to many x chromosomes. LOL.
SavePros321
01-14-15, 01:43
Once women from any country, are brought to the USA and they learn of their rights and opportunities. Most become the same as AW.
BULLSHIT! They learn of tax-payer funded government programs like WIC, Food Stamps, and how they can rip a man's testicles out through his wallet (R.I.P. Robin Williams) through divorce and child support!
Rights and opportunities my ass!
With the fiance visa you have to marry within 90 days. Download a movie called "Mail Order Bride". Its great and seems totally real. The actor in it has since gone on to several tv commercials and show, so this is not a spoiler alert. In this video link they seem to have caught on that these guys are there only to fuck them and leave.You have to be careful because if you keep applying for fiancee visas repeatedly, you could draw suspicion upon yourself as somebody who really isn't interested in getting married, but only in bringing one girlfriend after another to the States who otherwise couldn't qualify to travel on a tourist visa. And that can get you into some trouble with the government. Don't even consider it as it's nothing to play around with these fiancee visas. You don't want to be seen on TLC's 90-day Fiancee program being questioned by the authorities do you now? Hehehe!
I don't think food stamps are that great of a benefit. I got $100 worth of food stamps and it cost me $76 just to mail the watermelon.
SavePros321
01-14-15, 03:50
I don't think food stamps are that great of a benefit. I got $100 worth of food stamps and it cost me $76 just to mail the watermelon.Why are you mailing watermelons, LOL??
And if you don't think they are that great of a benefit, just take a trip to your local Walmart around the 1st or the 15th. You'll be the only sucker in there using real money while the rest pull up to the checkout counter with two to three shopping carts full of food, and two different women (who live in the same house) using two different cards to pay for it all, with 4-5 kids running around them, and a lazy, sorry, broke ass dude in tow.
Why are you mailing watermelons, LOL??
And if you don't think they are that great of a benefit, just take a trip to your local Walmart around the 1st or the 15th. You'll be the only sucker in there using real money while the rest pull up to the checkout counter with two to three shopping carts full of food, and two different women (who live in the same house) using two different cards to pay for it all, with 4-5 kids running around them, and a lazy, sorry, broke ass dude in tow.What's amazing to me is how many fat cows are using food stamps. In most countries poor = thin.
In America you can be poor and still be a fat ass.
SavePros321
01-14-15, 04:21
What's amazing to me is how many fat cows are using food stamps. In most countries poor = thin.
In America you can be poor and still be a fat ass.This photo says it all bro.
Mr Enternational
01-14-15, 04:58
BULLSHIT! They learn of tax-payer funded government programs like WIC, Food Stamps, and how they can rip a man's testicles out through his wallet (R.I.P. Robin Williams) through divorce and child support!
Rights and opportunities my ass!What is wrong with WIC and food stamps and what does either have to do with divorce or child support? Me and many of my friends got food stamps while we were in college. One of my friends was even able to qualify for Section 8 as a single man with no kids when we were in college and got a nice apartment for $6/ month. I also got food stamps when I lost my job.
My mother got WIC for my brother even though she had a good paying government job and our dad made good money as well. I also got WIC for my daughter when I was making decent money.
As a Navy veteran I found out that I am due $882/month for disability because I have sleep apnea. Should I not have filed a claim for that?
Should I not have accepted a Pell Grant and a Georgia Grant while I was in school since I was on a Navy scholarship anyway?
If you are eligible for a program then you should take full advantage of it. Maybe some people are just too proud, while others are thankful and don't mind taking advantage of the benefits and opportunities that are afforded to them. So don't get mad with those who are home with a full belly while you are sitting around with an empty fridge because you don't want to get your ass off your shoulders. I didn't invent the system, but I sure don't mind using it.
Since we are on the subject, has anyone watched 90 Day Fiance? A bunch of dorks bringing chicks from overseas (Brazil, Colombia, Philippines, Russia, South Africa) to their podunk towns with the hopes of marrying them within 90 days before the visa expires. I have not seen one guy on this show who has a pair of nuts. And any kind of affection the guy has to initiate it first. Dumb asses. 23 year old Brazilian chick telling a 38 year old man that he is not allowed to have a bachelor party and has to throw out all his Playboy books. Biotch I will throw you out before I throw these books out.I've watched that show regularly and 80 percent of the guys seem gay. They bring these girls here to America and the first thing you see is the fucked up life these guys have made for themselves. They usually live with their parents in some rural part of the country, they barely have jobs, and they have no idea of what they are doing. The interesting part is the girls are beautiful and seem sincere. The problem is that these guys don't have any respect for the culture that they have stolen these girls from. They don't want to learn any of the customs these girls have grown up with and are selfish to ask a women to suddenly adapt to American life. More than half of the guys on this show haven't even fucked the girl yet. These are some loser gay guys trying to make one last stance against "am I really gay" at the expense of some foreign girl who they think they can purchase as a trophy wife to hide their gayness.
On the latest episode one guy has a Brazilian fiance that he back tracked of his buddy on the internet. He has an old ass El Camino with no A/C and a house with a pool with green water. He still lives with his Dad. He wasn't even sure she was going to meet him at the airport in Brazil when he arrived. He spent all that money to fly down there on a hope then refuses to buy her a nice bedroom set. He doesn't even stand up to his friends who insults his fiance.
Its interesting because if these guys had been Black Americans the talk would be how these guys are so cold and have mislead these girls.
SavePros321
01-14-15, 12:14
What is wrong with WIC and food stamps and what does either have to do with divorce or child support? Me and many of my friends got food stamps while we were in college. One of my friends was even able to qualify for Section 8 as a single man with no kids when we were in college and got a nice apartment for $6/ month. I also got food stamps when I lost my job.
My mother got WIC for my brother even though she had a good paying government job and our dad made good money as well. I also got WIC for my daughter when I was making decent money.
As a Navy veteran I found out that I am due $882/month for disability because I have sleep apnea. Should I not have filed a claim for that?
Should I not have accepted a Pell Grant and a Georgia Grant while I was in school since I was on a Navy scholarship anyway?
If you are eligible for a program then you should take full advantage of it. Maybe some people are just too proud, while others are thankful and don't mind taking advantage of the benefits and opportunities that are afforded to them. So don't get mad with those who are home with a full belly while you are sitting around with an empty fridge because you don't want to get your ass off your shoulders. I didn't invent the system, but I sure don't mind using it.Unless you were fresh off the boat from Zimbabwe, the same situation doesn't apply. You are talking apples and oranges.
TG was talking about foreigners who haven't been here for 5 minutes learning of their "rights and opportunities". They haven't contributed anything to the system in the form of taxes or social security like the rest of us, yet they feel they are entitled to free government shit that I the taxpayer am funding.
If you bring your Thai broad over here and have a kid with her and she leaves you a year later, she should not be able to get WIC, food stamps, housing subsidies (ask yourself: would she have gotten the same shit in her own shithole country??). She hasn't contributed shit to the system. BUT you are welcomed to let her r@pe your bank account and retirement, lol. Your "mistake" should not be allowed to r@pe the American Tax Payer though.
Mr Enternational
01-14-15, 13:49
BUT you are welcomed to let her r@pe your bank account and retirement, lol. Your "mistake" should not be allowed to r@pe the American Tax Payer though.Now you know those broads would have better luck trying to find Tupac than for me to get them cheese on a Whopper; let alone getting their hands on my bread.
ThatGuy865
01-14-15, 18:06
Unless you were fresh off the boat from Zimbabwe, the same situation doesn't apply. You are talking apples and oranges.
TG was talking about foreigners who haven't been here for 5 minutes learning of their "rights and opportunities". They haven't contributed anything to the system in the form of taxes or social security like the rest of us, yet they feel they are entitled to free government shit that I the taxpayer am funding.
If you bring your Thai broad over here and have a kid with her and she leaves you a year later, she should not be able to get WIC, food stamps, housing subsidies (ask yourself: would she have gotten the same shit in her own shithole country??). She hasn't contributed shit to the system. BUT you are welcomed to let her r@pe your bank account and retirement, lol. Your "mistake" should not be allowed to r@pe the American Tax Payer though.Social safety nets are not only in the USA. Every westernized 1st world country has them. That's what sets them apart from 3rd world nations. They assist people get a foot up. When they get knocked down.
I don't care how long a woman has been in the country. If she is homeless or battered. I am glad we have a country where that person. Can get a place to stay, food and assistance until they gets back on their feet.
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. The women are waiting.
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. And that appears to be precisely the make-up of this thread.
SavePros321
01-14-15, 22:54
Social safety nets are not only in the USA. Every westernized 1st world country has them. That's what sets them apart from 3rd world nations. They assist people get a foot up. When they get knocked down.
Well thank you for making my case. Those "social safety nets" you speak of are reserved for the persons from those countries. They are not designed to assist people from turd-world countries to come here and get a "foot up" in life on the backs of the tax payers living in that Westernized country!
Why not encourage the despots running those shit 3rd World countries to fix their countries instead?
I get it now: TG most likely works in Washit-ton, D.C. Because all those jokers are more than happy to be liberal with other people's money. They don't call America the "Land of Milk and Honey" for nothing. You've just admitted that people's main motivation for coming here is to suck the system of those "social safety nets" not even afforded to them in their own damn country!
What's stopping a chick you married, brought here, and divorced from wanting to return to the PI or Thailand to be with her family? Answer: no system there to milk for food stamps, WIC, or housing subsidies. "Milk much better in US!"
Social safety nets are not only in the USA. Every westernized 1st world country has them. That's what sets them apart from 3rd world nations. They assist people get a foot up. When they get knocked down.
I don't care how long a woman has been in the country. If she is homeless or battered. I am glad we have a country where that person. Can get a place to stay, food and assistance until they gets back on their feet.
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. The women are waiting.If you are so happy with the women here, you and RJ should get you one and get off the monger board. No need for you two to go to some third world country and take advantage of those poor girls. Stay here, get you an AW and live happily ever after.
Well thank you for making my case. The only case you ever seem to make is that your not good relating to American women, not getting much yet its all their fault.
Yea, I get it. I think we all get it! Things have changed and its not getting easier for many guys. OK, I feel for you but its a tired song. Many of us are getting by just fine, have no complaints or bitterness.
And what do welfare checks and Walmart have to do with banging American women.
If you are so happy with the women here, you and RJ should get you one and get off the monger board. No need for you two to go to some third world country and take advantage of those poor girls. Stay here, get you an AW and live happily ever after.Dude,
What are you thinking? So when people don't agree with you, you throw a little hissy fit and tell them to go home?
This thread is "American women" . Not the "I can't get laid so all am suck" thread.
In your recent post to me you said something like "I'm done with AM, you can have them". But then your back complaining again. Why?
I don't find Philipinas attractive. That's why I don't go to the Phils. But you never see me in that thread. Just no reason, don't care.
OK, like Savpro your also not good with AM. We get it but why rag on and on?
SavePros321
01-15-15, 00:43
Now that may put a damper on those who want / need women to be dependent, poor and desperate so they must do whatever it takes to survive.
They need to go live in 3rd world countries and be happy. The women are waiting.
And that appears to be precisely the make-up of this thread.Coming from the guy who likes his Bangkok bar girl hookers at $50 bucks a pop:
Bar girls, office girls, 711 girls, etc. In BKK there's nothing but girls, they're everywhere.
For 50 bucks one can have anyone of a thousand girls in an anonymous room off a back alley and do evil things.Hypocrite much?
Naked Gunz
01-15-15, 02:29
You have to be careful because if you keep applying for fiancee visas repeatedly, you could draw suspicion upon yourself as somebody who really isn't interested in getting married, but only in bringing one girlfriend after another to the States who otherwise couldn't qualify to travel on a tourist visa. And that can get you into some trouble with the government. No I have a TS security clearance that I would not risk for anybody. I was just pointing out that vid on YT. I did, however, consider taking 10 k from a friend that wanted to get his Pinay sis-in-law to the states. Hell I think she was even pregnant! But I did not take him up on it.
My problem is that I want to find a place in the Phils that I can leave for work, but I know it's going to be broken into. I guess the only solution is to hire a maid to live there. But who knows WTF will be going on while I'm gone. I want my shit there when I return. Anybody have any ideas on that?
Well, instead of getting a Filipina maid to watch your place, you could get an American Woman to watch it. Then, instead of worrying about whether your sh! T would be gone when you got back, you would know that it would be. That would eliminate a lot of useless worry.
Or, you could choose to live in less horsesh! T of a country. The appeal of The Philippines escapes me.
ThatGuy865
01-15-15, 03:02
You've just admitted that people's main motivation for coming here is to suck the system of those "social safety nets" not even afforded to them in their own damn country!...No you are the one saying people are coming to get on safety nets. I strictly stated the system and how if needed, in 1st world countries (not only the USA) they are available.
But this is not a political Forum so I won't address your views. Safety net systems are in all western modern 1st world societies. If you have a problem with them. There are plenty 3rd world countries without them you can move to. Cya. Wouldn't want ta be ya.
We are discussing women though. Beautiful American Women at that. How can anyone talk politics with sexy AW all around.
Hell I'm on my way to hit on my favorite Hooters chick tonight while I watch the game. I'll suck down a cold one for you. It don't get no better than that.
Peace
ThatGuy865
01-15-15, 03:08
If you are so happy with the women here, you and RJ should get you one and get off the monger board. No need for you two to go to some third world country and take advantage of those poor girls. Stay here, get you an AW and live happily ever after.Its call vacation. I am not saying those women aren't fun. But AW are also. I'm not say those women aren't sexy. But AW are also. See the difference between us. Is I think both are OK.
No one country has a monopoly on good women. One is no better than the other. Each have their good and bad qualities. Period. Can you understand that?
The appeal of The Philippines escapes me.Yeah I've researched both The PI and The DR, and for different reasons I just can't get amped up to go to either one of those countries. Would be better than just staying home all the time and messing with only AW, but thankfully we have many other destinations to choose from besides The PI and The DR.
SeizeTheDay
01-15-15, 05:02
Hell I'm on my way to hit on my favorite Hooters chick tonight while I watch the game.
I never understood this mindset; to me this is a lack of self-respect. Why give validation to some chick that is never going to fuck you. Are American men really drooling all over their hot wings night after night over the chick making $9. 00/ HR to hand them ranch dipping. The chick probably gets banged by 3-5 dudes per week, and here you are thirsting for a mere smile. I wonder if you drop a $100 tip if she accidentally brushes up against you. Not that I am trying to deter you from your exploits, I just find this behavior strange. Am I the only one that feels this way? I just do not want to chase after a chick that does not want to fuck me. I am sure there are plenty of chicks down to fuck you (maybe how the fuck should I know) the way you talk, and if not this is a monger board. So I hope it is not crazy to say pay for it.
Its call vacation. I am not saying those women aren't fun. But AW are also. I'm not say those women aren't sexy. But AW are also. See the difference between us. Is I think both are OK.
No one country has a monopoly on good women. One is no better than the other. Each have their good and bad qualities. Period. Can you understand that?I understand that when you go to Hooters tonight to watch the game, drink a brew and hit on your favorite Hooter Girl. Afterwards you will be going home with your Dick in your hand.
I understand when I land in Thailand tomorrow, go out and have a beer, when I go home it will be with an Asian Hottie and we both will probably have spent the same amount of money.
You tipping some Hooter girl that thinks you are a creepy old man and me with one of my favorites waiting on me to get there.
I think I understand.
SavePros321
01-15-15, 14:33
I never understood this mindset; to me this is a lack of self-respect. Why give validation to some chick that is never going to fuck you. Are American men really drooling all over their hot wings night after night over the chick making $9. 00/ HR to hand them ranch dipping. The chick probably gets banged by 3-5 dudes per week, and here you are thirsting for a mere smile. I wonder if you drop a $100 tip if she accidentally brushes up against you. Not that I am trying to deter you from your exploits, I just find this behavior strange.Yeah, he should have at least lied and said he was going to "bang" his favorite Hooters girl, lol. The fact that he is essentially paying money to flirt with a chick who probably wouldn't sneeze on him by accident, let alone touch him, just adds to the validity of this Opinions > American Women thread and why it is still alive and kicking.
SeizeTheDay
01-15-15, 15:10
Yeah, he should have at least lied and said he was going to "bang" his favorite Hooters girl, lol. The fact that he is essentially paying money to flirt with a chick who probably wouldn't sneeze on him by accident, let alone touch him, just adds to the validity of this Opinions > American Women thread and why it is still alive and kicking.Poor guy, the girl would probably have him arrested for are**e if their hands ever touched during the receipt exchange. I would be laughing if it were not so sad, still laughing though. This thread is alive to remind guys no matter how much you want sex in between probation periods; it usually is not worth it. In American sex requires too much work for a subpar product. I could have sex with 4's and 5's but my probation hearing is in May and I am very optimistic and have too much self-respect.
Naked Gunz
01-15-15, 15:34
The appeal of The Philippines escapes me.
Yeah I've researched both The PI and The DR, and for different reasons I just can't get amped up to go to either one of those countries. It's obvious to me.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=214417
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=198509
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=210247
I understand that when you go to Hooters tonight to watch the game, drink a brew and hit on your favorite Hooter Girl. Afterwards you will be going home with your Dick in your hand.
I understand when I land in Thailand tomorrow, go out and have a beer, when I go home it will be with an Asian Hottie and we both will probably have spent the same amount of money.
You tipping some Hooter girl that thinks you are a creepy old man and me with one of my favorites waiting on me to get there.
I think I understand.There are Hooters girls in Manila you can bang. I've only been to the one in Manila but I did get a phone number. There are millions of other hot girls, hotter than hooters, P4 P and non P4 P, that you can bang in PI, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia for a fraction of what is costs in the USA and these girls are sweet and have tight twats and willing mouths. I'm 59 and go to Asia and / or Latin America at least twice a year. Going to DR for the first time in June and can't wait to get my hands on those extraordinary mams. The Hooters here are eye candy only but I still go there once in awhile. At least they will pose for a pic with you. GO PACKERS!
No I have a TS security clearance that I would not risk for anybody...
...My problem is that I want to find a place in the Phils that I can leave for work, but I know it's going to be broken into.I feel you on having TS clearance. To have a secure place in the PI depends on how much money you got. If you have wads of cash, then get a condominium in the metropolis if it suits you. Another is get a house within a gated community which are all over the country. Those areas are not crime-proof but they greatly reduce your exposure to theft. Instead of hiring a maid, you can hire a guard through a private security company. It is common to see those especially in posh residences.
I suggest to hide valuable stuff (e. G. Computers, HDTVs, appliances) as creatively as possible. Then substitute those appliances when feasible with their cheap local equivalents. Have the thief steal the cheap stuff.
For important documents and cash, you can always rent a safe deposit box at a bank.
Coming from the guy who likes his Bangkok bar girl hookers at $50 bucks a pop:
Hypocrite much?
The fact that he is essentially paying money to flirt with a chick who probably wouldn't sneeze on him by accident, let alone touch him, just adds to the validity of this Opinions > American Women thread and why it is still alive and kicking.Whoa, dude, calm down, your head is all over the place. Your killing our language, nouns and verbs are not interchangeable, and my post you quoted has nothing to do with AM or this discussion.
It was just an observation and in fact the next time I spend $50 for a girl in BKK will be the first time since I roll large but no matter.
Nobody here wants to fight with you. But because your having a tough time doesn't make everyone else a loser.
The guy stops on the way home for a burger and a beer and maybe catch the fourth quarter of a game and he's suddenly a loser? Certainly better than stopping at an "in-and-out" burger or whatever some other local chain, no?
And you don't know anything about the guy. Maybe he's already banged all the waitresses already and he stopped in to see the new recruits' or maybe not but either way, why are you so angry? Is this really the "angry" thread?
It's obvious to me.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=214417
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=198509
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=210247In my case the lack of appeal of the Phils has a lot to do with the weather and the infrastructure, not the women. Now the DR, the reason I don't go there definitely is the women. Worst fucks I have come across and dishonest as hell.
In my case the lack of appeal of the Phils has a lot to do with the weather and the infrastructure, not the women. Now the DR, the reason I don't go there definitely is the women. Worst fucks I have come across and dishonest as hell.DH, your name says it all. Where DO you go or do you just like to rag on everyone, everywhere and everything?
Mr Enternational
01-15-15, 17:31
Now the DR, the reason I don't go there definitely is the women. Worst fucks I have come across and dishonest as hell.Speaking in terms of hookers yes that is generally the case. They are hustlers just as hookers are supposed to be. Their job is to separate you from as much money (or as much of your shit) as they can as fast as they can do it and however they can do it. But this is not so when dealing with regular women.
Their job is to separate you from as much money (or as much of your shit) as they can as fast as they can do it and however they can do it. But this is not so when dealing with regular women.Yea, it just takes them a little longer, is way more subtle and is not nearly as much fun.
ThatGuy865
01-15-15, 18:16
I understand that when you go to Hooters tonight to watch the game, drink a brew and hit on your favorite Hooter Girl. Afterwards you will be going home with your Dick in your hand.
I understand when I land in Thailand tomorrow, go out and have a beer, when I go home it will be with an Asian Hottie and we both will probably have spent the same amount of money.
You tipping some Hooter girl that thinks you are a creepy old man and me with one of my favorites waiting on me to get there.
I think I understand.See there you go. That mindset is probably those of most AW haters. The idea that even when going to watch a sports game. You should be able to fuck the waitress. Your every interaction with a woman is based on "How much" and "How long". And "If" she doesn't want to fuck you. After meeting to you one time. The Nerve. What a stuck up b.
Again you guys read into things to fit your agenda. I like to flirt with babes. We go to Hooters to watch sports. My friends and I have been going for awhile and know the babes. We laugh and bullshit. I never said anything about trying to get laid or wanting to get laid.
I'm sure its your mindsets which women can see during your conversations as much to do with not being able to meet any. Guys not knowing how to have a conversation without it basically being "How much" "How soon" "how Long" . And if they don't let you know on 1st meeting. Because. What give's her the right to be choosy.
Maybe that's why I don't have to spend months with my "Dick my Hand" as TellAll so eloquently stated. Waiting to only get pussy when I go abroad.
The way I see it. I go abroad too. Which means. I get to have the same "Fun" as you guys. PLUS. While you are at home with "Dick in Hand" wacking off dreaming about your next trip. I'm laying between some thighs busting nuts in AW, not my hand. All them months wacking off, bet you guys have some soft hands. Hahaha.
TG865
DH, your name says it all. Where DO you go or do you just like to rag on everyone, everywhere and everything?Hey, some country's women have to have the title of the worst fucks. In my experience it has been dominicanas. You don't like my posts, don't fucken read them. I like South America the best, and give the title of the world's best fucks to the paraguayas. I also like Slovakia and Spain for mongering. Even Mexico is better for mongering than screwing dominicanas. Australia is also good for mongering, although less so at current exchange rates than when I was there. And, of course, Costa Rica where I will be tomorrow.
Naked Gunz
01-15-15, 21:48
Hey, some country's women have to have the title of the worst fucks. In my experience it has been dominicanas. .I think the experience would be better with more Spanish fluency, away from the obvious monger areas. Hustlers have to hustle. More GFE does not always equate to more dinero. So she is going to watch the clock. Never been to CR. More GFE?
It's obvious to me.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=214417
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=198509
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=210247Uuuuhhhh those aren't the reasons why I don't have an interest in going to The PI and The DR right now LOL! As a matter of fact, you can find all of that in places with a better infrastructure and more things to do as a tourist with less bullshit from the lazy tutes like you get in The DR, not to mention all the touts there who want to get paid as middlemen. Plus the crooked cops you have to watch out for. But alas, let's get back to slicing and dicing up the evil ways of the AW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8z1EzDouNs
I have a university degree in Spanish and have lived in Spanish-speaking countries for ten years, and none of the dominicanas I've fucked were in the DR, since I have never been there and don't plan on going. Not only I am I completely fluent but I can choose among several different styles and accents of Spanish. So toss that theory. Costa Rica is pretty GFE in my opinion, although I fuck more nicas than ticas, actually. I have fucked dominicanas in Argentina, Mexico, Spain, Jamaica, Chile, and (for some strange reason) Belgium. I may even have fucked a few in Costa Rica many years ago, before I came to recognize the accent and was thus able to avoid them. CR has many dominicanas working there, both at the Del Rey (avoid) and on Calle Ocho.
Here is my dominicana imitation: "Terminaste? Terminaste? Terminaste? Ya terminaste?"
Get the picture?
SavePros321
01-16-15, 01:50
Whoa, dude, calm down, your head is all over the place. why are you so angry? Is this really the "angry" thread?Well, I am sorry if your abnormally high estrogen levels are translating my OPINIONS as anger for you. This IS an Opinions thread, after all.
If you don't like my opinions, take Dickhead's advice:
You don't like my posts, don't fucken read them.
Hey, some country's women have to have the title of the worst fucks. In my experience it has been dominicanas. You don't like my posts, don't fucken read them. I like South America the best, and give the title of the world's best fucks to the paraguayas. I also like Slovakia and Spain for mongering. Even Mexico is better for mongering than screwing dominicanas. Australia is also good for mongering, although less so at current exchange rates than when I was there. And, of course, Costa Rica where I will be tomorrow.My apologies, DH. Yes, a significant advantage in speaking Spanish. I spent two months in Rio many years ago and had a great time. Never been to Slovakia or Spain but been to Tijuana a lot. Different strokes for different folks.
So here's a guess but I'the be curious to heat Mr. E's take on it.
Could it be that its just a never ending loop of victim mentality? I don't win so therefore I can't win so therefore anyone who appears to win has something wrong with them as some kind of semi sick self compensating defense?
Accusing seemingly typical people of abnormal things even though they are very typical situations. Like a burger and a beer in a bar?
See there you go. That mindset is probably those of most AW haters. The idea that even when going to watch a sports game. You should be able to fuck the waitress. Your every interaction with a woman is based on "How much" and "How long". And "If" she doesn't want to fuck you. After meeting to you one time. The Nerve. What a stuck up b.
Again you guys read into things to fit your agenda. I like to flirt with babes. We go to Hooters to watch sports. My friends and I have been going for awhile and know the babes. We laugh and bullshit. I never said anything about trying to get laid or wanting to get laid.
I'm sure its your mindsets which women can see during your conversations as much to do with not being able to meet any. Guys not knowing how to have a conversation without it basically being "How much" "How soon" "how Long" . And if they don't let you know on 1st meeting. Because. What give's her the right to be choosy.
Maybe that's why I don't have to spend months with my "Dick my Hand" as TellAll so eloquently stated. Waiting to only get pussy when I go abroad.
The way I see it. I go abroad too. Which means. I get to have the same "Fun" as you guys. PLUS. While you are at home with "Dick in Hand" wacking off dreaming about your next trip. I'm laying between some thighs busting nuts in AW, not my hand. All them months wacking off, bet you guys have some soft hands. Hahaha.
TG865I to have favorite bars in the USA. I'll go there, eat drink and flirt with the hot waitresses and bartenders that I know and know me. I enjoy it as most men would. But at the end of the day even that interaction is about money. They know I tip well and they are earning their tip.
Now as far as wining and dining some post menopausal AW with more baggage then the belly of a 747 for some sex, I think I'll pass. You are more than welcome to my share. Maybe you should move to a retirement community. I'm sure there will be plenty of 60 and 70 yr old hags that will love to fuck you. Then you can come back here and brag about how much AW sex you are getting. Wait you are already doing that.
For the record, I don't do without even in the US. I just don't care for the quality of the sex in the US all that much.
Unless I'm getting it from a hot young thing, which I do regularly.
ThatGuy865
01-18-15, 14:41
For the record, I don't do without even in the US. I just don't care for the quality of the sex in the US all that much.Unless I'm getting it from a hot young thing, which I do regularly.So there you go. Finally. You admit there are plenty of hot AW to be had. Which are good and you find regularly (your words).
When hot ones won't due. Like every other older man in the world, you have sex with a woman your own age.
Damn them AW. Mainly wanting sex within their age group. Damn them.
Maybe you should move to a retirement community. I'm sure there will be plenty of 60 and 70 yr old hags that will love to fuck you. Then you can come back here and brag about how much AW sex you are getting. Wait you are already doing that.Dude,
We feel for you. Thankfully there are 3rd world countries, right?
Hang in there and best of luck.
Naked Gunz
01-19-15, 08:15
So there you go. Finally. You admit there are plenty of hot AW to be had. Which are good and you find regularly (your words).Yes there are many beautiful AW. Sex is a beautiful and natural thing. The desire for it by a man is second only to food and shelter. We are animals, with intellect yes, but at the end of the day we need to fuck (a lot). So this being the first world and what not means we are to suppress that desire and go the route of courtship and marriage to get laid. Pussy should be as available as take-out pizza LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE FUCKING WORLD!
Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cbs-suspends-greg-anthony-indefinitely-hooker-bust-article-1.2082263.
Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cbs-suspends-greg-anthony-indefinitely-hooker-bust-article-1.2082263.Too bad for this guy. Charles Barkley has been busted for the same thing, nothing happened. But as the article said, Anthony was a commentator in college arena and this affected young people? Maybe not fair, but is the risk you take. He probably just wanted a BJ.
So there you go. Finally. You admit there are plenty of hot AW to be had. Which are good and you find regularly (your words).
When hot ones won't due. Like every other older man in the world, you have sex with a woman your own age.
Damn them AW. Mainly wanting sex within their age group. Damn them.The hotties I am referring to are not in my age group. They are much younger. They don't fuck me because we are BFF's, they do it for money and I do it so they will go afterwards. Still not interested in any Aw in my age group.
I'm in Pattaya now.
Last night I was on a FL hunt at one of the Discos. There were about 5 or 6 Thai Hotties on the dance floor dancing together when all of a sudden this old fat ass western hog jumps into the middle of them and starts shaking her ample stuff.
I remember thinking, where is my good friend ThatGuy when I need him. He could harpoon this whale and get it out of here. The next day he could brag about how he got it for free and I had to pay some hot Thai Babe for sex.
Oh well maybe next time.
Too bad for this guy. Charles Barkley has been busted for the same thing, nothing happened. But as the article said, Anthony was a commentator in college arena and this affected young people? Maybe not fair, but is the risk you take. He probably just wanted a BJ.Firing somebody for trying to get laid, only in America. Arresting somebody for trying to buy sex, DC Police should have better things to do with their time.
Just another way of keeping men in sex prison.
ThatGuy865
01-19-15, 16:27
Last night I was on a FL hunt at one of the Discos. There were about 5 or 6 Thai Hotties on the dance floor dancing together when all of a sudden this old fat ass western hog jumps into the middle of them and starts shaking her ample stuff.
I remember thinking, where is my good friend ThatGuy when I need him. He could harpoon this whale and get it out of here. The next day he could brag about how he got it for free and I had to pay some hot Thai Babe for sex.
Oh well maybe next time.Yep. And like a good wingman. I would have taken the grenade for you. Whispered sweet things into the ear of that foreign curvacious goddess and parted the waters for my pal TellAll to do his thing.
We have got to run the bars. Next time I'm in Pattaya.
TG865. Peace.
Mr Enternational
01-20-15, 02:20
Article from Cracked about hookers:
http://www.cracked.com/article_21862_5-ways-life-as-prostitute-nothing-like-you-expect.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weeklynewsletter
"There's this belief that sex workers really love sex. But it's not sex, it's work. After seeing a client, I wouldn't feel like 'I just got laid.' It'd actually make me want to be with my partner more, because I knew what I had with him was real."
ThatGuy865
01-31-15, 17:14
Enjoying the AW. Once I was able to accept the reality that I was not going to attract 20 yr old women any longer and put my focus on more age appropriate women. My AW pussy rate has been off the chart.
Its amazing how many late 30 yr to mid 40 yr old women are sitting around wanting a guy and the thing is. They have their own money, secure jobs, all they want is a guy. No impressive dating required. After a simple meal 1st date most just want to sit at home, watch a movie, drink some wine, cuddle and fuck. Can't ask for a better weekend. Super bowl weekend I will be in the USA knee deep in women and football. Hope you guys are too.
Don't condemn yourself to "sexual" prison isolation waiting for periodical probation to go abroad. There are sexy AW waiting to help with your situation. Even if its just to take you through the times between trips.
TG865
Naked Gunz
02-05-15, 06:46
There are sexy AW waiting to help with your situation. TG865Yeah this one contacted me on POF. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=208032 . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum!
Its amazing how many late 30 yr to mid 40 yr old women are sitting around wanting a guy and the thing is. They have their own money, secure jobs, all they want is a guy. No impressive dating required. After a simple meal 1st date most just want to sit at home, watch a movie, drink some wine, cuddle and fuck.
TG865I can't think of anything grosser than sitting around drinking wine with a mid 40 year old woman after having sex with her. I like to rinse and run after those types of experiences.
SavePros321
02-05-15, 12:26
Yeah this one contacted me on POF. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=208032 . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum!I just finished shaking one of the last remnants of my failed attempt at jumping back into AW online dating. Chick looked nice in her photos, but I never got around to meeting her in person. Reason? She has two 3 yr old twins, and everytime she called me I could hear those knuckle heads screaming in the background. She could barely talk to me without instructing them to do something (or to stop doing something) every 5 seconds. It was distracting as hell.
It's a fucked up situation because the guy that knocked her up jetted on her to another state and (according to her) is in no way contributing to helping her with her kids. But that's no my fault. I'm pretty sure she knew this guy wasn't about shit long before he got her pregnant.
I stopped calling her. She would continue to call me and text me though. Seemed pretty desperate to meet someone, but good luck with that baggage. I think she finally got the picture though and has moved on.
Maybe TG865 can don his cape and come and save her :D
I just finished shaking one of the last remnants of my failed attempt at jumping back into AW online dating. Chick looked nice in her photos, but I never got around to meeting her in person. Reason? She has two 3 yr old twins, and everytime she called me I could hear those knuckle heads screaming in the background. She could barely talk to me without instructing them to do something (or to stop doing something) every 5 seconds. It was distracting as hell. I stopped calling her. She would continue to call me and text me though. Seemed pretty desperate to meet someone, but good luck with that baggage. I think she finally got the picture though and has moved on.Women like this will often defiantly proclaim, "We're a package deal!" Well, we see the package. But where the hell is the deal? I'm not about to be responsible for raising some loser guy's kids. Kids that she's very likely to always put before you too since they're hers, but not yours. Not going to happen. I won't even date women who have children. I just don't go there. Bang them yes. But "date"? Nope! Hit it and quit it and keep on stepping!
ThatGuy865
02-05-15, 19:32
I stopped calling her. She would continue to call me and text me though. Seemed pretty desperate to meet someone, but good luck with that baggage. I think she finally got the picture though and has moved on.
Maybe TG865 can don his cape and come and save her :DSavePro,
I knew we'd find common ground sooner or later. On this subject I have to agree. I won't deal with somebody else's rugrats. That is where I draw the line. But I have been known to "tap that a $$" and run a couple of times in my past. But I tend not to even want to deal with them on that level any more.
SavePros321
02-14-15, 18:54
They killed it fellas. Forget about it, LOL (see attached photo).
Wolvenvacht
02-14-15, 19:24
Now this dude is going to lose everything just because he wanted to get laid: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/cbs-suspends-greg-anthony-indefinitely-hooker-bust-article-1.2082263.Maybe he will write a book about his career and downfall, sell the movie-rights and retire to SE Asia.
Well guys, one of my favorite strippers in town here (Sacramento) got fired from the strip club (unknown reason) and she contacted me for a possible home visit. Mind you she is 50 years old with the body of a 20-something and large fake boobs on a skinny body. She always took care of me in the club and let me fuck her once there for $80 but normally just BJ / HJ. She said she would come over for $300. I countered with $100 (no more) and have not heard back and don't expect to. If she tries to hustle me up I'm going to let out the big secret: for $300, baby, I can get five CIM BBBJs with video from my home delivery brown sugar OR save it up for DR or PI and get all night long, no holes barred with eight to ten YOUNG babes with terrific bodies, less attitude, more GFE and hopefully on film. What do you think?
Yeah this one contacted me on POF. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=208032 . I can't wait to choke on her cig smoke, listen to grandkid stories while paying for her dinner, and wait till the respectable third date before we fuck! Yummm Yum!I don't even open my POF mail anymore. They're all beached whales like this one.
What do you think?Dude,
I would never tell anyone who to or not to fuck or how much he should pay for pussy. How we spend our money is our own business. But personally, there isn't a 50 year old woman on the planet I'the pay to fuck. Period.
Even one of my all time favorites, Cindy Crawford, at her age, would only get a fine meal and some flowers (and she'the have to flirt A LOT and talk dirty and get me hard over desert).
If your friends still trickin' at 50 and can't even keep a job on the pole, I think I would throw her a few hundred every once in a while out of pity just so she can keep her lights on.
Naked Gunz
02-24-15, 16:01
She said she would come over for $300. I countered with $100 (no more) . What do you think?Typical "My pussy is lined with gold" AW attitude. Is she giving more than one pop with max GFE? Hell no! Your price is fair. No effin way I pay her prices. A little self discipline goes a long way. That's the price of a lot of nice clothes, electronics, or whatever - for myself. At the end of the day it's just an orgasm. Feels just as good to rub one out.
What do you think?It's a typical AW overvaluing the pussy. Acting like she's doing you some favor or something, when really it would be you doing her the favor! She isn't offering shit. I know that. You know that. We all know that. You make sure she knows it too! Hit her with the cold, hard facts. Fuck her. No, better than that. Don't! Not at any price either. That's what I think.
If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.
I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.
Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.
Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.
UltraHappy
02-25-15, 02:30
If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.
I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.
Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.
Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.You'd rather do these things alone? (conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc.).
Most of those things are usually more enjoyable with a nice girl -- yes, even if sex is off the table -- unless you just hate being around people, which is typically unusual for our species.
I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.
I agree with your observation about the disparity in the price of services inside versus outside the US, but that doesn't necessarily diminish the enjoyment of spending time with a nice girl.
ThatGuy865
02-25-15, 04:15
If it was made absolutely clear up front that sex was off table (not happening), would anyone still invest the time for conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc. ,.
I do not think so. That is why after sex we generally lose interest. Unless she owns a fishing boat, and can cut bait.
Therefore, instead of wasting hundreds of dollars per shot on AW, take your vacations abroad and have a good time at a discount.
Even in Germany you can get more for $50 that you can for $300 in the USA.Obviously many men don't agree. That's why there are terms "Girlfriend" and Wife. Because most men love to do many things with women not only sex. I know for guys solely dedicated to P4P, it's a hard concept to understand.
But there are many men who love the company of a woman. One reason the majority of American men don't consider foreign women an option. Is the cultural and language differences. The majority of men want relationships with women they can converse to and relate to. As much as having sex.
Obviously for most men. Being with women is more than just about sex.
You'd rather do these things alone? (conversations, shopping, dinners, museums, etc, etc.).
Most of those things are usually more enjoyable with a nice girl -- yes, even if sex is off the table -- unless you just hate being around people, which is typically unusual for our species.
I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.
I agree with your observation about the disparity in the price of services inside versus outside the US, but that doesn't necessarily diminish the enjoyment of spending time with a nice girl.Got plenty of male friends to socialize with and have more fun doing it. If sex is not on the table, I can't see any reason to waste my time hanging out with your so called nice girl.
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.
Naked Gunz
02-25-15, 14:53
I personally don't enjoy fishing. I'd much rather hang out with a nice girl than be sitting on some boat waiting to catch some fish. To each his own I suppose.Your forgetting the elephant in the room when it comes to American style "relationships", and that is the constant ass kissing of the female by the male to get the sex, even after the ring has been put on it. The American male has been reduced to some form of metrosexual female / male hybrid in order to gain and maintain the attention of women. They're are endless books, articles and TV interviews dedicated to women to show how they are ruining their relationships And yes, I like to fish.
One reason the majority of American men don't consider foreign women an option. Is the cultural and language differences.
Obviously for most men. Being with women is more than just about sex.Actually, it's because of the cultural differences that foreign women are the BEST option. That difference is that they have been raised in male dominated societies, and have no idea that they are supposed to cut off the balls of they're men to gain or TAKE power in the union. Language can be learned. End of story.
That just makes you her chump.Let a fool keep fooling himself.
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me...Which means she must be sitting next to you on a fucking bhat bus in Pattaya, Thailand. Yep, those are the girls we date all right. Enjoy the ride.
ThatGuy865
02-25-15, 20:25
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.
That's just an immature outlook. As stated. Many MEN enjoy the company of women. Just as they do men.
It seems you are the one limited. In that you can only drink, hold conversations, with men.
MEN can have fun with a women he doesn't want to fuck. So who cares who else is fucking her. No wonder many guys have issues with women and have to pay for their company. They haven't a clue how to relate to women.
Many MEN enjoy evenings out with women. Since women attract women. Its a win win situation. Go out with women friends and they will draw other women for you to meet. But of course, since guys who only pay for sex. Don't know much about socializing. This concept is foreign to them.
Naked Gunz.If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.
SavePros321
02-26-15, 04:01
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.Alpha fucks; Beta bucks!
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Me [32M] with my wife [31F] of 7 years, our recent homecoming has totally changed my perception of her
"We met in college and have been together ever since. We recently had a 10 informal get together / reunion with our group from school. While there my wife spent a good amount of time talking with my first roommate from college, someone I never got along with and it has changed my idea of my wife.
When I was first in school my roommate was a popular guy, jock and frat type. He was very good with women. I thought he was superficial and lame but of course women disagreed. He got whatever he wanted. I didn't want the same to his extreme but I admit I resented that even the supposed good girl types lined up to be with him.
I moved out before the end of the year because I got tired of having to share space with yet another of his one night stands 4-5 times a week. He was just that guy, I even had a young-ish professor who was into him.
I moved out and we had some animosity over it even though we'd gotten along on a day to day basis otherwise. When I met my now wife the following year I was very interested in her because she was smart and beautiful and yet seemed unlike the other girls around me. One big thing was she was always skeptical and critical of my former roommate no matter how many people thought he was awesome.
Understand that when he was accused of harassing and possibly assaulting a girl the following year even the college administrator in charge of investigating the situation defended him as misunderstood and important to the campus community, so finding someone who seemed to be immune to his "spell" so to speak was huge to me. It wasn't the only thing, but it boosted her into another category in my eyes.
So we attended the get together last month and she was hanging out with him for a good amount of time, like old friends. I questioned this later and she has admitted spending time with him while we were dating in college. It turns out spending time with him also meant having oral sex with him on two occasions, messing around in general on other occasions.
In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.
She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.
I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"
http://redditlog.com/snapshots/35098
SavePros321
02-26-15, 04:53
If your friends still trickin' at 50 and can't even keep a job on the pole, I think I would throw her a few hundred every once in a while out of pity just so she can keep her lights on.Of course you would, just like a good little White Knight Beta.
For everyone else, don't save them h0ez!
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Don't Save Her. She Doesn't Want to be Saved
"So there's the girl. You've known her for a while, and you've always been interested in her. Doesn't matter how you know her; could be work. Maybe a class. Maybe she goes to your gym and you chit chat while you're there.
So this girl keeps telling you stories about all these shitty guys she keeps dating. Guys who manipulate her emotionally. Guys who fuck her and then don't call her back. Sometimes even guys who hit her.
Your natural response is probably going to feel like you need to protect her from this injustice. From whatever pain she's feeling emotionally or otherwise. If only she could see what it's like to date a good guy like you. You're going to want to save her. Especially if she has a kid.
Don't.
What you're encountering in this moment is a woman of poor decision making skills who allows her life to spin out of control. In the 21st century in modern countries, especially those in Europe and the West, woman have more rights and freedoms than they ever have in history. They are also afforded protections under law that allow them to financially destroy their spouses through alimony and outlandish child support. Broken, damaged women with emotional baggage and sometimes children are not an RP (Red Pill) man's idea of dating material.
The risks in dating these types of women are everywhere. First of all, why would you ever want to date someone who can't keep their own life in check? If she's getting evicted from her place and "needs a place to stay for a while", what does that tell you about her ability to manage her own finances? What happens when she needs to borrow money from you? If she's got a kid, how long before you "take on a fatherly role" as the state would put it, and she can hit you up for child support? What happens when you realize she was full of shit about all her stories of being abused and is actually bat-shit crazy and starts accusing you?
Don't put yourself in these types of situations. Women who are like this do not want to be saved. They want to continue behaving like children and riding the [dick] carousel. They are not yet emotionally mature enough to be in a relationship that can succeed. And if they have a kid, you shouldn't be responsible for it. She should.
It's been said before that TRP is the radical notion that women are people. So don't save them from their mistakes. If you wouldn't do it for your friend, don't do it for her just because she has a vagina. Afterall, that would be sexist."
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2x6jyh/dont_save_her_she_doesnt_want_to_be_saved/
Mr Enternational
02-26-15, 06:11
In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.
She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.
I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"
http://redditlog.com/snapshots/35098Sounds to me like this is a nerdy guy and dude is jealous, which really ain't no need to be. Hell the broad is going home to him every night and making him dinner. It also sounds like this was the only chick this guy was ever able to get in his life. So he is thinking mine mine mine and only mine. Well before she was his, she was the other guy's. You can't erase the past. And to think the chick was Miss Virgin before he hooked up with her was just setting himself up for a let down. And if he is not planning on leaving her, what is the point of his rant? What does he want to happen? She can't go back and unsuck the college guy's dick or unfuck the other guy she fooled around on him with. He needs to man the fuck up and look toward the future if he has plans on staying together.
At 17 coming up under the pimps in my city I learned that it is cop and blow. Women come and go. Here today, gone tomorrow. Just because you have her today, it doesn't mean that you will have her forever. So make the best out of it when you do have her. When she is gone, then you shake that shit off and you go get another one. We are all people and people change. Several chicks that I have had for years are still around, but most have moved on to other guys, other lifestyles and what have you. I can't get mad about that the same way the guys they are with now can not get mad because they were with me before. With billions of women on this planet there is no need to sulk over one. If your car breaks down for the last time, if your shoes wear out, what do you do? When shit is not serving its original purpose any longer then you replace it. If you chose not to replace it then don't go around bitchin and moaning about its current condition or what you perceive to be its condition.
Mr Enternational
02-26-15, 06:17
First of all, why would you ever want to date someone who can't keep their own life in check? If she's getting evicted from her place and "needs a place to stay for a while", what does that tell you about her ability to manage her own finances? What happens when she needs to borrow money from you?
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2x6jyh/dont_save_her_she_doesnt_want_to_be_saved/If she needs to borrow money from me then she better hand over some collateral to back the loan. I'm not trying to be anybody's Jed Clampet.
Naked Gunz
02-26-15, 06:19
If foreign women .
"That's just an immature outlook. As stated. Many MEN enjoy the company of women. Just as they do men.
It seems you are the one limited. In that you can only drink, hold conversations, with men.
MEN can have fun with a women he doesn't want to fuck. So who cares who else is fucking her. No wonder many guys have issues with women and have to pay for their company. They haven't a clue how to relate to women.
Many MEN enjoy evenings out with women. Since women attract women. Its a win win situation. Go out with women friends and they will draw other women for you to meet. But of course, since guys who only pay for sex. Don't know much about socializing. This concept is foreign to them."
Naked Gunz. Hey! Why the hell are you cutting and pasting my handle to somebody else's post? WTF is your problem! Do the thread a favor and go back to the one you have demonstrated a little bit of manhood in.
If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.People especially men don't like getting out of there comfort zone. We do what we are programmed to do. That is why men stay in miserable marriages or enter into three or four of them hoping for the good one that never happens.
I moved out and we had some animosity over it even though we'd gotten along on a day to day basis otherwise. When I met my now wife the following year I was very interested in her because she was smart and beautiful and yet seemed unlike the other girls around me. One big thing was she was always skeptical and critical of my former roommate no matter how many people thought he was awesome.
Understand that when he was accused of harassing and possibly assaulting a girl the following year even the college administrator in charge of investigating the situation defended him as misunderstood and important to the campus community, so finding someone who seemed to be immune to his "spell" so to speak was huge to me. It wasn't the only thing, but it boosted her into another category in my eyes.
So we attended the get together last month and she was hanging out with him for a good amount of time, like old friends. I questioned this later and she has admitted spending time with him while we were dating in college. It turns out spending time with him also meant having oral sex with him on two occasions, messing around in general on other occasions.
In addition to having betrayed me (admittedly years ago) with my then least favorite person in the world, she still finds him charming today I can tell. I ask what happened to all that she said about him then, her ability to resist that and be sarcastic with him when he'd try to charm her like the others, she says she doesn't know, things just happened, why am I mad? It was years ago, etc.
She feels I'm unfair to hold this against her now, but for a month now I've just not been able to look at her the same. The details of the situation have killed me. Him playing playstation on the couch or watching football while she made him feel good is something I know but wish I didn't now. She tries to make it sound no big deal or just a thing or a mistake but it changes everything to me. She says she wants her husband back and her marriage back, I say I want the wife I thought I had. I wish I hadn't demanded to know what went on after I saw them together last month and the feelings still there apparently for her, at least seeing him as charming or attractive.
I don't intend to divorce but her friends and one of mine say I might be tossing everything away with my reaction. Of course the ones who knew him liked him which makes me sick. Has it been too long for this to be an issue? Am I potentially throwing away a good marriage to who I thought was the perfect woman?"
Yep you fell for the old, my girl's different thing when she wasn't. They never are. Remember, if your women is talking smack about a man to much, she wants to fuck him.
Now you get weak and say you wish you hadn't ask. Your wife had the Dick of a man you can't stand in her mouth. All while dogging him and professing her love for you.
If she did him, she did and is doing others since it seems to be no big deal to her.
That is the question you need to be asking yourself.
Who is she doing now? Maybe another so called friend.
Which means she must be sitting next to you on a fucking bhat bus in Pattaya, Thailand. Yep, those are the girls we date all right. Enjoy the ride.RJ, I was in a bar the other night and observered this American Guy with two Western Women. He was buying rounds and they were laughing and talking. After they drank up a fair amount of his money, they said thanks and excused themselves. Add insult to injury, the bitches were ugly.
I said to myself even in Asia some dumb fucks never learn.
Yes I want to be just like him when I grow up. LOL.
SavePros321
02-26-15, 12:37
Yep you fell for the old, my girl's different thing when she wasn't. They never are. Remember, if your women is talking smack about a man to much, she wants to fuck him.
Only, in this situation she was talking smack about him because she DID fuck him, LOL. She told her boyfriend / husband it was only a couple of blow jobs, but the byatch already lied to him once. The other guy probably fucked her in the ass too. She probably thought that saying it was only a couple of BJ's would make her husband less mad than if she said that she fucked his former roommate and he blew his load in her a few times.
The funny thing is guys on here want to rail us about being strictly p4p, but who in their right mind would want to deal with shit like the guy in the article from Red Pill? He's not going to divorce her unless he's just begging to be taken to the cleaners.
Assume all women are the same. Or don't assume all women are the same and end up like the guy in the story, finding out that sweet, innocent-looking "good girl" you married turned out to be the campus $lut or some jock's side piece while you were dating (and going home with a peck on the cheek and blue balls every night until she finally decided to give you some, hahahaha!).
If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.I am absolutely no expert and have never even been in the military. But from what I have been told, Military guys get extra money and benefits from the military if they are married to an American woman and have kids with her, and they don't get that same amount of extra money and benefits if they marry a foreign girl who is not a US citizen. It seems it's all about quality of life and free money from the government for housing and other benefits. Bringing a foreign woman to the US is quite difficult and costly. I could be wrong. Maybe someone who knows more about this than I do can provide some insight.
SavePros321
02-26-15, 12:46
Military guys get money from the military if they are married to an American woman and have kids with her. They don't get that money if they marry a foreign girl. It's all about quality of life and free money from the government for housing and other benefits.True, true. I would see a lot of this in Hawaii. A lot of guys were marrying local girls to get the free government money, and they would share it with the girl. They didn't even stay together in most cases. But anytime the guy pissed of the girl (like, trying to hold out on giving her cash) they would threaten to call his commander (blackmail), LOL.
If foreign women were so attractive to American men and so right for them. Tell me why is it. The majority of service men that go abroad do NOT marry foreign women. Most come back to the states and marry AW. Why is that.
Sure there are some that marry foreign women but the majority don't. And Millions of military guys have been overseas and yet. Most come back to the USA And marry AW.
Seems your theory is not reality. Most want someone who has common language and culture.TG, do you have any studies or statistics to back this up? I was in the military (stationed in Korea and Philippines) years ago and didn't marry at all but sure had fun with Koreans and Filipinas I had dated and done the deed with. The Asian girls spoil you compared to the beached whales of America. Most of the military guys I served with had foreign wives and were quite happy with that.
ThatGuy865
02-26-15, 19:31
TG, do you have any studies or statistics to back this up? I was in the military (stationed in Korea and Philippines) years ago and didn't marry at all but sure had fun with Koreans and Filipinas I had dated and done the deed with. The Asian girls spoil you compared to the beached whales of America. Most of the military guys I served with had foreign wives and were quite happy with that.Dcup,
Don't think of just the few you knew. I was in the military and stationed overseas. Sure there are guys who marry foreign women. But it definitely is NOT the majority of military guys who get stationed. My question to you. Have you been married, and if so, why not a foreign woman since you were stationed abroad.
I never said the guys didn't enjoy screwing the women just like you did. I'm saying the MAJORITY did NOT marry foreign women.
Statistics would not be available based upon foreign vs AW. Because its against the law for an employer to ask personal questions about a spouse. They can only ask if you are married (Y or N) . They CANNOT ask your wife's citizenship. Period.
Smoothy,
You are partially correct. Military do get paid when they marry. But its to ANYONE. 1st of all they cannot ask what nationality or citizenship is your wife. She does not work for the government, that would be against the law. They can't discriminate. Its the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Hell soon they will have to recognize gay marriages. Let alone being married to a foreign woman.
They pay more because a military person is married and therefore is providing for a spouse. Period. Same with kids, you get more per kid. Its not based upon your wife's citizenship. After all foreign wives can get a green card automatically once married.
That fact alone shows just how much they DON'T think foreign women are better as wives. Since while most guys are overseas. If they were to marry one. They automatically receive additional pay. They rather wait and marry AW that they are comfortable with than a foreign woman.
At Tell All.
Your response affirms my statement. You are correct. People gravitate towards what they are comfortable with. That is my point. The comfort factor American men have with AW due to the same cultural and language makes them more comfortable to be with.
There will always be a certain percentage of guys who are unhappy with AW and seek elsewhere. Considering there are roughly 100 million men over 18 . If its even 1% that's 1 million. And I doubt there are 1 million American men who go out of the country yearly seeking foreign women.
The percentage (non-business travelers) of Americans that go to the countries you guys consider heaven is so low its not even in the 100 thousands range. This shows. There is no large scale desire on American men part to search other countries for women.
Hell the USA Has one of the lowest percentage of citizens that travel abroad compared to almost every westernized country. Because we are happy with AW and home.
SavePros321
02-26-15, 21:37
Hell the USA Has one of the lowest percentage of citizens that travel abroad compared to almost every westernized country. Because we are happy with AW and home.Come on TG. I don't take you for an uneducated guy, but even an Ape would realize that last statement is a sweeping generalization if there ever was one. A lot goes into why many people don't travel abroad: their level of income, their comfort level with traveling someplace foreign to them, if they even care about any other country other than America, etc.
To say "we are Happy with the AW and home" , well, you can never miss what you never had (the sweet nectar of foreign beauties) to begin with!
And if you are broke (can't afford to travel for P4P), then you can only do what you can afford (AW's), right?
Dcup, Don't think of just the few you knew. I was in the military and stationed overseas. Sure there are guys who marry foreign women. But it definitely is NOT the majority of military guys who get stationed. My question to you. Have you been married, and if so, why not a foreign woman since you were stationed abroad. I'm saying the MAJORITY did NOT marry foreign women.TG, I have never been married as I stated in my previous post. Since you have no statistics or studies to cite we will assume that you are just talking out of your ass.
They pay more because a military person is married and therefore is providing for a spouse. Period. Same with kids, you get more per kid.Strange. My job doesn't pay me any extra if I have a wife and kids.
ThatGuy865
02-27-15, 01:40
Strange. My job doesn't pay me any extra if I have a wife and kids.Does your job send you to where people are trying to kill you? Shooting at you? Placing IED's on your road to work.
Uncle Sam is waiting. And happy to give you a job.
ThatGuy865
02-27-15, 01:48
Come on TG. I don't take you for an uneducated guy, but even an Ape would realize that last statement is a sweeping generalization if there ever was one. SavePros,
You are absolutely correct. I am using the same sweeping generalizations everyone on this thread uses.
Statements like. AW are not sexy like. "fill in the blank" . Or AW attitude is not as good as. "Fill in the blank" .
How did you say it. Even an ape would realize these are sweeping generalizations.
ThatGuy865
02-27-15, 03:47
Although. When it comes to dating. Some guys do pay what I consider outrageous amounts for a date.
Mind you this is a site that auctions off dates. So take it for what its worth. But its only fair to show both sides of the coin.
Single men in DC spend an average of $177 on first date
How much would you spend on a first shot at love?
According to a new survey by date-auction site WhatsYourPrice.com, single men in Washington, D.C. spend $177 on a first date.
That comes in at #5 on the list!
Reno, Nevada takes the top spot with single men spending $230 on a first date.
At #10, Houston, Texas with single guys spending $143.
Here is the list of Top 10 Most Generous Cities in America:..http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/28196793/single-men-in-dc-spend-an-average-of-177-on-first-date#.
SavePros321
02-27-15, 14:38
Here is the list of Top 10 Most Generous Cities in America:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/28196793/single-men-in-dc-spend-an-average-of-177-on-first-date#.Look at how misleading that headline is. Basically telling women "here are the places where suckers will spend gobs of money trying to get into your pants". A woman may see that and say to herself "$177? That's chump change! Once he gets into the $300-$500 range I may consider giving him a kiss on the cheek. ".
You might as well buy a Pick 3 or Pick 5 lotto ticket. At least you have the chance of doubling your money.
I sometimes read in the Sosua forum that absolute stunners are asking for 3000-4000DOP. 4000 pesos is $90 USD. So $90 for a chick that looks like a young Halle Berry and will drain your dick all night vs. $177 on a hope (date) in the US. Hmm....
But again, not all guys are able (blessed) to have the opportunity to travel internationally, so throwing money at an AW until she finally relents (if you can hold her attention for that long) may be their only option.
Naked Gunz
02-27-15, 15:21
Does your job send you to where people are trying to kill you? Shooting at you? Placing IED's on your road to work. Uncle Sam is waiting. And happy to give you a job.Don't diss, and don't hate. I did four years in those jobs at 206 k / year. I spent months at a time on my breaks on top of various women throughout the world. But he does point out a gross injustice. As a young sailor, I had to live on the ship while my fellow sailors got housing and extra pay for being married. I thought that was total bullshyt. My only equalizer was learning how those same wives would be banging the neighbors when we went to sea.
SavePros321
02-27-15, 18:28
Taken from the Santo Domingo thread. Freakin Story of my life (except for the fiancee part)!
My 2 cents on free pussy
By Durandpaul
"I went to Ohio for a business trip for 1 month. All I got to brag about are text messages and few dinner dates. Out of the 7 girls who gave me their numbers, only met 2 me outside of the bar on dates. And one of the two came to my hotel and I still didn't bang her because she said she is not that kind of girl. I haven't talked to her for 2 weeks now because I will most likely not go back to Ohio. I probably spent close to $500. For drinks and dates. Sometimes you have to buy a girl a drink to get her number.
Now if I had gone to the DR. I will have been having pussy every night or any time I want.
I am in my early 30's and has P4 P for few years now. Why? Because I love sex and love to try new pussy. I have a fiancee and few side chicks that I keep on my rotation.
But at the end of the day P4 P gives me the ability to get a nut and decide whether I should let the girl go or let her spend the night with me.
I can get free pussy in the USA but I am not patient enough to play that game all the time. You have to entertain women, spend money on dates etc. On average I will say.
I spend 100 on a girl before getting into her pants. Mind that after having sex with a girl, it easier to keep banging her if you are single and has nothing to hide.
I hate P4 P in the USA because its more risky. I don't do streetwalkers, and with Backpage or craigslist you have to worry about pimps and most of the time you will be rushed.
Conclusion: Pussy isn't free. A lawyer or Engineer in the USA can give you free pussy after you take her to nice restaurant and show her you are what she is looking for. I avoid.
Those women because I have a girl already and don't need to impress other women with expensive tastes. I rather hunt the type of girl that lives pay check to pay check. Having a nice house, nice car, and nice hotel room can get you free pussy with a broke girl. It get even better if you can pay her gas sometimes, get her something to eat. I have a girl that I have known for 5 years now. She has two kids, good looking, nice body. And live above her means. Every 3 months she will borrow some money from me. She knows I have a girl but she knows I am probably the only person she can call to borrow $500 to cover her rent. I am like a credit card for her. She always give me back my money and I can stop at her house a bang her anytime I want to. Her kids know me and I even buy them gifts for birthdays. Is it free busy? Some will say yes. But I know its not. We both get something we need. Trust me guys if the locals in the DR had as much money as us those girls won't even be looking at us."
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2229-Santo-Domingo&p=1687638&viewfull=1
UltraHappy
02-28-15, 00:50
Got plenty of male friends to socialize with and have more fun doing it. If sex is not on the table, I can't see any reason to waste my time hanging out with your so called nice girl.
Remember this while you are hanging out with your nice girl. If she is not fucking you she is fucking someone else. Probably some guy who won't take her shopping and spend hours listening to her bullshit. Someone like me.
That just makes you her chump.First Question: By your reasoning, if you are hanging out with someone and not getting sex / blowjob, then you are that person's chump. So, by this same logic, when you hang out with your guy friends and they don't give you sex / blowjob, then you are just their chump, right?
Second Question: Why are you able to have fun with your male friends without having sex with them but unable to have fun with your American female friends without having sex with them? I mean, if you're going to hang out with a friend and not have sex with them, why not just hang out with a nice girl instead of hanging out with some dude?
AW are annoying to hang out with for the most part. Here is an example. Saturday night I was in the bar in the Latin American country where I currently reside. I live in this bar as well, and fortunately not too many people from the US make their way there. But a fat, fortyish gringa came in and started talking to me. She was with some douche bag guy from Bumfuck KY and she was tráiler trash from MS. She was or is or claimed to be teaching ESL here. So she is talking to me and telling the douche bag to order some food. Like a lot of food and the menú prices here are high by local standards. Then she started doing shots. Finally he left in frustration and she was telling me what a loser he is and how she is pretty sure he wants to fuck her but she is never going to. Then she starts telling me how cute the latino bartender is, then she starts coming on to him and telling him to take his shirt off and shit like that. He was new on the job and it was making him pretty uncomfortable. We start playing checkers and she keeps doing shots and pretty soon she is telling me how much she wants to suck his dick, while also revealing she has three kids by different fathers, has never been married, and is bisexual. I don't give a shit about any of this. The bartender is being only minimally polite to her and is obviously embarrassed. Then she starts telling me she has a university degree in Spanish and there is no fucking way. She was asking me questions about Spanish and then arguing with me and I was like, if you don't think I know what I am talking about why are you asking me? Finally she says something like, "I guess the bartender is not interested. I might have to settle for you. " I told her I did not go with Caucasian women and I think she thought I was kidding. Finally the bar is closing and she gets her tab for like 20 shots that she was ordering for anyone and everyone and the tab was about $50 US and she refused to pay and was saying her friend had already paid most of the bill before he left. I went up to my room at that point and in the morning I realized she had also stolen my lighter which I kindly went up to my room to get even though I don't smoke tobacco.
One of the bartenders here is from a different, neighboring country and has dual citizenship and speaks perfect English and she is cool. I don't know if she is ethnically latina, half and half would be my guess, but she acts like a woman and not like a cheap, disgusting ho.
First Question: By your reasoning, if you are hanging out with someone and not getting sex / blowjob, then you are that person's chump. So, by this same logic, when you hang out with your guy friends and they don't give you sex / blowjob, then you are just their chump, right?
Second Question: Why are you able to have fun with your male friends without having sex with them but unable to have fun with your American female friends without having sex with them? I mean, if you're going to hang out with a friend and not have sex with them, why not just hang out with a nice girl instead of hanging out with some dude?I see you are a little slow so here you go. When I hang out with my guy friends, we have more in common. We have worked together for twenties years. We talk about sports, hunting, fishing and women. I have never had one of them ask me if his pants make him look fat. We have a great time and can speak openly about whatever.
Now let one of them bring his wife or GF to our gathering. The conversations change to what she likes. Deffinately can't talk about women you are banging or anything else for man only.
God help you if she's a feminista.
When it happens I make an excuse to leave early.
When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants. You are her enertainment until you have spent enough and it is time to meet lover man since you are just dollar man. But don't worry she may introduce you to one of her friends so you can rinse and repeat.
Whole idea of it makes me sick.
When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants. You are her enertainment until you have spent enough and it is time to meet lover man since you are just dollar man. But don't worry she may introduce you to one of her friends so you can rinse and repeat.
Whole idea of it makes me sick.Spot on, TA. If I didn't have to work them and be neighbors to them I probably wouldn't even talk to them (AWs) except to see if there are any exceptions. One in a while I am pleasantly surprised but usually it is ALL about them and all their petty bullshit.
When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants. You are her enertainment until you have spent enough and it is time to meet lover man since you are just dollar man. But don't worry she may introduce you to one of her friends so you can rinse and repeat. Whole idea of it makes me sick.This is pretty much what I found when I was in the "normal" dating game. It was all about them, and they would sit there and do the things that women accuse men of doing, like attempting to dominate the conversation and talking about nothing other than themselves. Sitting there judging my "worthiness" to spend time with them. I remember stopping at least two conversations and asking in the middle of the date, "Is this a date or an interrogation"? Boy did that shock and get them to change their tone! I don't know if they even realized how they were coming off, and both appeared to be embarrassed after how I challenged their behavior. Now, I'm not about to kiss any woman's ass just to be with her. Not interested when I'm out here fucking attractive young ladies all over the globe. I go to work and pay the few bills I have and save money for the future. And I still have enough left over to travel to distant lands and get my dingus serviced by hot, young, foreign women. No, it's these AW who can kiss my ass is what! Legalized prostitution in safe, clean environments makes it extremely easy to remain a single man. At least for me it does. And I gather the same is true for many of you guys too. I love how AW have zero grip on me. You see, I don't need them. Because I'm already steady getting some. Damn it, it feels great too doesn't it you guys like me? Like gaining energy independence from Middle East oil LOL!
Does your job send you to where people are trying to kill you? Shooting at you? Placing IED's on your road to work.
Uncle Sam is waiting. And happy to give you a job.Yes, that happens to some. But less than 50% of enlisted military. My best friend from high school just retired from the military after 25 years. Never once did he have any combat duty nor was he stationed in an area of danger. I do believe that if the guy gets killed or injured, the Government should fork over the money to support him and his wife and kids. But why give extra money for the wife and kids regardless? I don't see the logic.
Mr Enternational
03-01-15, 09:01
Yes, that happens to some. But less than 50% of enlisted military. My best friend from high school just retired from the military after 25 years. Never once did he have any combat duty nor was he stationed in an area of danger. I do believe that if the guy gets killed or injured, the Government should fork over the money to support him and his wife and kids. But why give extra money for the wife and kids regardless? I don't see the logic.The man already explained it. It takes more money to raise a family than to be a single guy who has nothing to do but buy video games and the US government recognizes that. The same thing is reflected in the US tax code. You pay more taxes if you are single with no kids than anyone else.
My last year of high school I worked at McDonald's for one month making $3.35/hour. That was the minimum wage back in 1989. When I went to the Navy as an enlisted guy I made $669/month which if figured at 40 hours / week is $4.18/hour. I guess it was okay for a single guy living on base with no rent who ate in the mess hall and only needed money for CDS and partying. If you live off base they give you an extra stipend for rent and even more for food. If you have dependents in the form of a wife and children then you get even more for that.
Both my cousin and his wife were in the military getting extra money for having a spouse. Actually I think that is the only reason they got married. Even when they broke up they did not get divorced so both could still get the extra money. Back then the SGLI insurance policy was $100,000 if you die. That would not support a wife and kids for too long.
Mr Enternational
03-01-15, 10:24
Although. When it comes to dating. Some guys do pay what I consider outrageous amounts for a date.And whose fucking fault is that besides the guys'? Over and over in these forums I see guys going to third world countries and saying you are the one with the money so you make the rules. Are these same guys not following their own advice when they are back home? Or is it that they feel they can not be in charge when a woman is on their same economic level?
What is wrong with meeting a chick and asking her out for coffee or tea, or inviting her to a home-cooked meal, or even asking her to cook for you? In my city they have free concerts in the park during the summer as well. Hell, I even meet chicks and ask them when they are taking me out. Some chicks will even admit that they can not afford it. I tell them that it does not have to be anything big. I am a simple guy and for me it's the thought that counts and shows that you are interested in me.
Open your mouth and start being a leader and thinking outside of the box. You don't have to do the cliched dinner and movie. Or do you think you are going to miss out on some pussy if you try that? The thing is that you will never get any if you are scared to miss out on some. I'll invite a chick over and throw on some jazz; make some strong ass frozen caipirinhas in the blender, break out those chocolate covered strawberries that I made earlier and pretty soon it is stroke time. Every now and then if you meet a chick and she does not want to go along with your program then there is a guy from my city who made a song for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M37HHf099oM.
Women come a dime a dozen. I can go out right now and get six phone numbers, but I will be the first to admit that I can't afford to spend $177 on each one of those ladies for a first date.
Delta Indigo
03-01-15, 12:56
Two things,
I was married once to a lovely and faithful girl. When we first went out, we were totally into each other and it was like a romantic fairy tale. However after our first date, she was pressured into going out on a date with someone else, and she gave in. It was only a friendly date without even a kiss on the cheek and after this one date she dropped it.
After we were an item I found out about this from her and I was upset and a bit shocked. She tried to explain and I eventually dropped it. What I can tell you is that during the 9 years we were together she was incredibly faithful and devoted to me. One of the main reasons the marriage fell apart was because I was not faithful to her and have always wanted to sleep with other women. So give your wife a chance, it was long in the past.
Another thing, I am saying this to help you and not upset you, if you are upset by my following observations, which may be inaccurate, I apologize. It sounds like you were a bit jealous of your old roommate, and the thing you liked in those days about your current wife is that she did not fall for your roommate, so this was your victory over him, finally after watching him take the prize again and again. So when you found out they were together at some point, this is what really upset you and hurt your ego.
If you really love your wife and want to make it work out, forget about it, if you do not you will wreck your marriage.
Two things,
I was married once to a lovely and faithful girl. When we first went out, we were totally into each other and it was like a romantic fairy tale. However after our first date, she was pressured into going out on a date with someone else, and she gave in. It was only a friendly date without even a kiss on the cheek and after this one date she dropped it.
After we were an item I found out about this from her and I was upset and a bit shocked. She tried to explain and I eventually dropped it. What I can tell you is that during the 9 years we were together she was incredibly faithful and devoted to me. One of the main reasons the marriage fell apart was because I was not faithful to her and have always wanted to sleep with other women. So give your wife a chance, it was long in the past.
Another thing, I am saying this to help you and not upset you, if you are upset by my following observations, which may be inaccurate, I apologize. It sounds like you were a bit jealous of your old roommate, and the thing you liked in those days about your current wife is that she did not fall for your roommate, so this was your victory over him, finally after watching him take the prize again and again. So when you found out they were together at some point, this is what really upset you and hurt your ego.
If you really love your wife and want to make it work out, forget about it, if you do not you will wreck your marriage.Yes you should forget all about her sucking his Dick while telling you with the same mouth how much she couldn't stand him.
Dude if that woman is not fucking someone else on the side right now, I would be shocked.
SavePros321
03-01-15, 14:06
Two things,
If you really love your wife and want to make it work out, forget about it, if you do not you will wreck your marriage.I have never been married, never plan to.
How the hell can people not tell that the post I made was something I took from another site? Fuck, I even put it in quotation marks and added the link to the original post at the end of it! Fuck, I even added
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To separate what I had to say from the actual article!!!
Indigo, why not click the link to the original post on Reddit (I placed it at the end of the article post that I added quotations around) and post the same advice to the poor guy who actually needed it, lol.
ThatGuy865
03-01-15, 18:10
AM who are AW haters mainly are.
Guys who have been burnt from a marriage, scorned by a woman. Mad because of something they asked the woman to do. She didn't ask them to marry. They did it. And when they left and not they mad because of the 50/50 split at divorce. Which has been that way since man has been getting divorced, so its not like any man can say. "I didn't know" . But they blame the woman for the resentment of their mistake. So they hate all AW.
Or.
Guys who think a woman should drop the panties pretty much after the guy says "Hello" . Their attitude is why should she need to get to know each other. She should drop the panties, after a 20 min conversation and however long it takes to find a place to fuck. She should want to fuck at least the second meeting.
But since AW for the most part have the ability to support themselves, have financial independence, it gives them a greater feeling of self worth. They don't have to settle for just any dick w / a steady paycheck. They can afford to pick and choose. This means some guys end up rejected, and some guys more than others. Resentment sets in. These poor rejected misfits of society. Many start writing on forums about how AW are no good.
These guys attitudes has nothing to do with P4 P. Because there are many guys who do P4 P abroad and still appreciate AW. But the number of AM who hate all AW. I say is a small percentage of the American male population. And the problem says more about the guys than the women. IMHO of course.
TG865 . The Global professor of all things male.
A wise man once said, "You can't watch your wife and your outside woman, too."
I have never been married, never plan to.
How the hell can people not tell that the post I made was something I took from another site? Fuck, I even put it in quotation marks and added the link to the original post at the end of it! Fuck, I even added
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To separate what I had to say from the actual article!!!
Indigo, why not click the link to the original post on Reddit (I placed it at the end of the article post that I added quotations around) and post the same advice to the poor guy who actually needed it, lol.I knew it wasn't you. I said say it ain't so SavePro, say it ain't so. LOL.
AM who are AW haters mainly are guys who have been burnt from a marriage or guys who think a woman should drop the panties pretty much after the guy says "Hello" .
TG865 . The Global professor of all things male.Neither one of those categories applies to me. Also, I don't spend my time "hating" AW. All hating does is lead to your own self-destruction and demise. It's just that when it comes to romance and sexual encounters, I simply don't deal with or pursue AW anymore. I've found another kind of lifestyle arrangement that works better for me and that makes me happy. I love the travel and the adventure and the sex. You're such an apologist for AW that your handle ought to be "That Girl". But hey, I don't hate. I fornicate!
UltraHappy
03-02-15, 01:20
I see you are a little slow so here you go. When I hang out with my guy friends, we have more in common. We have worked together for twenties years. We talk about sports, hunting, fishing and women. I have never had one of them ask me if his pants make him look fat. We have a great time and can speak openly about whatever.
When you are out with a women as friemds or whatever, make no mistake that time is all about her. You get there when she wants, talks about what she wants.
Whole idea of it makes me sick.Hehe, thanks for explaining it real slow like to me. LOL.
You are lucky TellAll that you enjoy hanging out with your Man-Friends so much. Me, I don't much care for sports, hunting, and fishing.
I'm sorry that the AW in your part of the country are so horrible and terrible that you derive no enjoyment from spending time with them if they're not sexing you up. Things must be pretty bad in your area of the country I guess.
ThatGuy865
03-02-15, 04:02
Yes, that happens to some. But less than 50% of enlisted military. My best friend from high school just retired from the military after 25 years. Never once did he have any combat duty nor was he stationed in an area of danger. I do believe that if the guy gets killed or injured, the Government should fork over the money to support him and his wife and kids. But why give extra money for the wife and kids regardless? I don't see the logic.You want the reasoning or logic behind it talk to the people who established the rules. You can call your closest Military Recruitment office.
You don't like the pay structure. Don't join. If you like it. Join. Either way. It is the way it is.
SeizeTheDay
03-02-15, 04:07
AM who are AW haters mainly are.
Guys who have been burnt from a marriage, scorned by a woman. Mad because of something they asked the woman to do. She didn't ask them to marry. They did it. And when they left and not they mad because of the 50/50 split at divorce. Which has been that way since man has been getting divorced, so its not like any man can say. "I didn't know" . But they blame the woman for the resentment of their mistake. So they hate all AW.
Or.
Guys who think a woman should drop the panties pretty much after the guy says "Hello" . Their attitude is why should she need to get to know each other. She should drop the panties, after a 20 min conversation and however long it takes to find a place to fuck. She should want to fuck at least the second meeting.
But since AW for the most part have the ability to support themselves, have financial independence, it gives them a greater feeling of self worth. They don't have to settle for just any dick w / a steady paycheck. They can afford to pick and choose. This means some guys end up rejected, and some guys more than others. Resentment sets in. These poor rejected misfits of society. Many start writing on forums about how AW are no good.
These guys attitudes has nothing to do with P4 P. Because there are many guys who do P4 P abroad and still appreciate AW. But the number of AM who hate all AW. I say is a small percentage of the American male population. And the problem says more about the guys than the women. IMHO of course.
TG865 . The Global professor of all things male.Yes I think a woman should drop her panties within 20 minutes of meeting her, 5 minutes actually. And it is because these women go to clubs and pick out the guys they want approach and instantly have sex with guys. Or they get approached by the guy they are attracted to and within 5 minutes are getting fucked in a dirty bathroom with no condom. Now you want me to approach this girl and not do the same? You want me to spend hundreds of dollars on dinner dates with this girl, be a gentleman and wait for her to allow me to please her. Naw son. These girls are not worth that, I treat women the way they act. I am a man and have self-respect and dignity. Similar to the way The Cane feels, if you go out with these women it is an opportunity for them to interview you for the position of her personal ass kisser. She wants to know whether you are up to her standards. In 2015 the dynamic is simple; either she wants your dick or your wallet. And if she wants your dick, sorry to hurt your feelings and shatter your delusions about the sanctity of the female character, but she is not going to make you wait more than 20 minutes. Conversely if she wants your wallet she will postpone sex as long as possible. She will let you die before fucking you if you allow her, all the while taking your money for the last 50 years. This is the true nature of women forged by 300,000 years of evolution and nothing TG865 can write on this forum will ever change that. This does not mean AW are bad people. They are merely animals, and as animals they follow their preset biological impulses. We just saw SavePro321 post an example of this. A guy hated his roommate and finds a girl he liked that shared his opinion. He becomes enamored with her, and then proceeds to wine and dine her. Meanwhile his room who not only does not spend a dime on her, not only does not have to leave his couch, he does not even turn the fucking PlayStation off while busting fat loads down her throat and on her face. The husband probably had not even had sex with his future wife yet while the other guy was using her up. What AW women do is their business; however do not expect me to go chasing after them throwing my money to be jerked around instead of off. To do so would mean to disrespect myself as a man. BTW if you are " The Global professor of all things male" then god help us all. And I have already been given the title of professor on this forum by SP LOL.
Hehe, thanks for explaining it real slow like to me. LOL.
You are lucky TellAll that you enjoy hanging out with your Man-Friends so much. Me, I don't much care for sports, hunting, and fishing.
I'm sorry that the AW in your part of the country are so horrible and terrible that you derive no enjoyment from spending time with them if they're not sexing you up. Things must be pretty bad in your area of the country I guess.Oh don't worry to much about me. I wouldn't know what the women are like in my part of the country because I'm in Asia. When I leave here next month, I'm headed to South America. I'm seldom in my part of the country anymore.
A man that doesn't like sports, hunting or fishing. Yes I think you're better off hanging with women in the USA.
You can talk about food. By the look of there fat asses, they know a lot about that.
SavePros321
03-02-15, 12:34
http://www.stickmanweekly.com/ReadersSubmissions2009/reader5546.htm
"So, let's get to Korski's question, "Who is a hoar", and my initial response, "They all are". By Briffault's Law if a woman is associating with you (assuming you are a man) then she is doing it because she sees some benefit, either current, or in the future, from that association. How is this different from the bargirl on Soi Cowboy? I think only in the duration of the intended association, the amount of benefit expected, and in the woman's acceptance of delay in getting that benefit. Guys, let's get real about this. It is past time to take off the rose colored glasses.
How does this help? If you know going in that she is there to derive a benefit, then make sure you are willing and able to provide that benefit, that you are willing and able to continue to provide that benefit, and that the cost to you of providing that benefit is worth the benefit you derive from the association. Be fully aware that when the benefit to her stops, the relationship will stop. Have no illusions. This is true in the UK, France, America, Thailand, and everywhere else. So, if you spend every dime in your retirement fund to build her and / or her mother a house (in her name of course), do not expect that the association will continue. You must say no early and often so you preserve your ability to provide a continuing benefit. If you drain all your resources, then you get what you should expect (see corollary 1).
Keep control of your money, only you will be responsible with it, because you had to earn it. After my first divorce I commiserated with a female secretary that was at least two decades older than me, and who was herself divorced. When I told her that I had let my wife run the family finances (common in 80% of married couples in the USA), and that she had run us deep into debt, she told me, "Any man that turns over his paycheck to a woman is a fool. " I would add that giving any woman every penny you have in the world is just asking her to kick you to the curb and walk away from you.
Deriving mutual benefits from a relationship is not a bad thing. Where Brokenman and the rest of us men lose the plot is when we expect past benefit provided to the woman to continue generating current or future association (see corollary 1). Loyalty, honor, gratitude, and duty are male values that we men project on women, but which very few, to no, women actually possess. We aren't born with these values; they are drummed into us from the cradle on by society / culture, our families, and most definitely by the women in our lives (sorry, but that includes you too, Mom). Women get different indoctrination, so they have different values; mostly, for a woman, whatever is good for her and her (biological) children is what is best, full stop. So, do not expect that the woman in your life will be grateful, and sacrifice for you, when you can no longer provide for her and hers. And make no mistake, you have never been, and never will be, part of what is hers. What are hers will be first herself, then her (biological) children, then her parents, then her siblings, and then the rest of her blood relatives. The biological imperative has always been to extend her blood line. It stops there, and it always will. This is true everywhere in the world. Get over it.
Men love women, but I truly believe that women are incapable of what we men call love. "Greater love hath no man than that he lay down his life for his friends. " How many women are willing to die for their husbands, friends, country, or comrades in arms? Damn few, if any. Yet it is commonly expected of men (made compulsory under certain circumstances). How many men continue on in their marriages, supporting their family and their wife, while the wife is making their life a living hell? Far too many. How many men choose their wives over their parents and siblings? Most. Women do not behave like this. Men take out large insurance policies so their wives and children will be well taken care of should they die. Even if the wife is making (nearly) as much money as the husband, she will not have insurance. She sees no reason to reduce her current ability to spend to take care of others after she is dead. She could care less what happens to the husband, and doesn't want the husband to be able to spend money on some young bimbo, after she dies. The life insurance gender statistics are well known, and widely available. None of this should be a shocking revelation. When my second wife died, her mandatory insurance (free) provided by her teacher's union covered her funeral expenses. It would have made life much easier if her insurance had paid the over $350,000 my life insurance would have paid.
When does the expectation of mutual benefit in marriage go seriously wrong in the west? It goes wrong as soon as the "I Dos" are said, or very shortly thereafter. Why is this so? Because you, the man have just entered into a contract with the state where you have promised that you will provide everything to your bride, and where the bride has promised nothing. By the way, the full weight of the law and public opinion will support her stripping you of every thing you have, including your children, and most of what you will ever make in the future, when (not if) she decides to dump you. Hence, once you enter into the contract you have nothing left to offer her. Everything you have, or will have, is already hers. Seem like a harsh statement? I thought so too, the first time I heard it, during an argument with my first wife towards the end of our marriage. She asked me the eternal female question, "What do you do for me?" (I. E. What benefit do I get from associating with you?) I responded, "I pay all your expenses. I feed, clothe, and house you. And, I am paying for your college tuition. " She told me that all the money I earned was her money and that if she let me have any of it that was pure charity on her part, so I was doing nothing for her. I thought this was unduly harsh. The divorce courts showed me that it was pretty much just a statement of fact. The wife has it all, and can make her part of the marriage contract, the portion where she is to provide you with companionship, comfort, loyalty, sex, etc. , null and void at any time while keeping everything you have / had / will ever have. She has no need to associate with you further once you are married (see corollary 2). (What is the difference between regular Barbie doll and divorced Barbie doll? Divorced Barbie comes with her stuff and all of Ken's stuff too.) This seems a totally destructive state of affairs. Recently many in the western nations have been up in arms over a law passed in, I believe, Saudi Arabia that said if a married woman refuses her husband sex, then he can refuse to feed her. All are screaming it is Islamic misogyny. Seems to me, it is an equal degree of enforcement for both sides of a contract.
Presenting Briffault's Law is a duty I felt I owed to the readership, as a public service. We all need to take off the blinders. You will get from women exactly what you should expect; if you keep Briffault's Law (and my corollaries) in mind. Knowing this earlier in life would have saved me a lot of pain. I hope it helps some of you out there keep a hand on the reins. All of us, men and women, will be happier if men take charge of their relationships and their finances. ".
BRIFFAULT'S LAW:
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Briffault
SavePros321
03-02-15, 12:55
Guys, as you go about your day / week, be sure to evaluate all of your female coworker (or classmate) "friends" connections and ensure that you are not just wasting your time by "Orbiting":
Orbiter - Also known as Beta Orbiter. A beta guy who accepted the proposal to "just be friends" from a girl he has oneitis for. He will stick around her and constantly validate her whenever she requests it. Also known as "friendzone. " She will keep him around because he will do anything for her and provide validation, giving small hints that he might eventually win her love- but he never will. Typical signs of orbiter status: likes and comments on new facebook photos. Go-to guy when girl has problem with boyfriend. Also known as emotional tampon.
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TG is no doubt a Master Orbiter, as well as a Master Beta, hahaha.
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/
ThatGuy865
03-02-15, 18:59
Guys, as you go about your day / week, be sure to evaluate all of your female coworker (or classmate) "friends" connections and ensure that you are not just wasting your time by "Orbiting":
Orbiter - Also known as Beta Orbiter. A beta guy who accepted the proposal to "just be friends" from a girl he has oneitis for. He will stick around her and constantly validate her whenever she requests it. Also known as "friendzone. " She will keep him around because he will do anything for her and provide validation, giving small hints that he might eventually win her love- but he never will. Typical signs of orbiter status: likes and comments on new facebook photos. Go-to guy when girl has problem with boyfriend. Also known as emotional tampon.
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TG is no doubt a Master Orbiter, as well as a Master Beta, hahaha.
http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/SavePros. Your post make me laugh. And for that I thank you. Have a great day.
TG865 . "Global professor of all things male".
Naked Gunz
03-14-15, 05:25
Just had a view of TV's sexiest videos countdown on CW. Of course they are broadcast all over the world EXCEPT the USA. Of course they all glorified the MAN as a fucking MAN.
I found my fav on YT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePz1grQf8RA.
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.
Just had a view of TV's sexiest videos countdown on CW. Of course they are broadcast all over the world EXCEPT the USA. Of course they all glorified the MAN as a fucking MAN.
I found my fav on YT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePz1grQf8RA.
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.No won't see that in the USA. I still remember when they banned the Go Daddy commercials from the Superbowl.
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.I know what you mean. Go to Thailand and fly Nok Air. Man, you will see some stunning flight attendants -- all young and gorgeous. They even do a calendar of them.
SavePros321
03-14-15, 16:25
Just had a view of TV's sexiest videos countdown on CW. Of course they are broadcast all over the world EXCEPT the USA. Of course they all glorified the MAN as a fucking MAN.
I found my fav on YT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePz1grQf8RA.
We have so many grandmas working on airlines now that this commercial would be seriously protested by them and all the rest of Americas thundering herd - (AKA the average AW). Have fun seeing what will never be seen or done in America.Not that anyone cares, but the song in the video, I've only known it from the Drum and Bass version. It is called "From Bath with Love" by Danny Byrd. So random that I would hear it anywhere outside of the DnB arena, LOL:
If you've got any kind of quality sound system, this song really kicks. They'll hear you coming from a mile away!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVx8NJOYhQI
Just got back in the USA last night. A large herd of AW buffalo everywhere I Looked.
Went to a Restaurant today and saw hogs everywhere.
Why did all these women let themselves get so f'king fat?
Is it the culture of the American Man now that he likes them big? If so how did I miss the culture shift?
Damn.
Mr Enternational
04-02-15, 02:55
Just got back in the USA last night. A large herd of AW buffalo everywhere I Looked. Went to a Restaurant today and saw hogs everywhere.Did you take you one home? When we were in the taxi Sunday night we saw you on the motorbike making that left off 3rd Road on to Pattaya Klang.
Did you take you one home? When we were in the taxi Sunday night we saw you on the motorbike making that left off 3rd Road on to Pattaya Klang.I left the day after you did. Should have put a hottie in my suitcase, but I'll be in Latin America in Two weeks so I should be alright.
Just got back in the USA last night. A large herd of AW buffalo everywhere I Looked.
Went to a Restaurant today and saw hogs everywhere.
Why did all these women let themselves get so f'king fat?
Is it the culture of the American Man now that he likes them big? If so how did I miss the culture shift?
DamnIt's caused by the car and food culture. People don't walk, they drive everywhere. The cities aren't even built for walking. No sidewalks, just roads and distant strip malls. They tend to have sedentary jobs instead of physical jobs. Then they eat lots of cheap high calorie foods. End result? Rampant obesity. In poorer countries there are lots of people with no cars who walk everywhere, do physical labor, and don't have as much food to eat.
It's caused by the car and food culture. People don't walk, they drive everywhere. The cities aren't even built for walking. No sidewalks, just roads and distant strip malls. They tend to have sedentary jobs instead of physical jobs. Then they eat lots of cheap high calorie foods. End result? Rampant obesity. In poorer countries there are lots of people with no cars who walk everywhere, do physical labor, and don't have as much food to eat.Yes, no one moves in this county and couple that with the god-awful food here, it's surprising that people aren't even fatter and unhealthier than they already are.
I've always been the healthiest and in best shape when I was living overseas. The more time I spent abroad, the better health I was in. Looking back, I've always had some sort of (usually, minor) health problem when I'm here in America. Only time I've been hospitalized was here in the US. This place is just bad for you; like a pack of cigarettes, there should be a health warning stamped into your passport everytime you enter this country.
This place is just good for making money, that's it. Just use America like an ATM machine and get out every chance you can get.
SeizeTheDay
04-03-15, 23:50
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2379cacJQV1Offrq
What do you all think of the psychology of the modern American female, such as the one in the video? With all the advantages given to women today, this women still believes she deserves a seat simply because she is female. This is the type of woman that would make a guy go through hell just to sleep with her. In her mind she is special because of her gender, she is the type of woman I do not want to have sex with. Here are two opposing comments from the website.
Quote by: letsberealtea.
"That's what we call equality.
If you got there earlier like the men did, you would have got a seat, but because you are a woman, you think a stranger has to give something up for you? That's not the real world.
Most women don't act in a way that deserves respect these days. ".
Quote by: Unbiased_Vanity.
"The majority of the Black men, or any man, spewing negativity and hate to the black female, don't even understand the psychology of her. So instead of taking the time to learn about your woman and what captures the essence of her spirit, you shun her. You make her feel as if she is beneath you, as if she is undeserving, as if she is the problem when in truth, the Black female is the only flower that flourish without water. Without nourishment. She has been since the beginning of Ancient Kemet. Since the beginning of time. She is strong-willed and hard-loving.
Even though that love isn't returned. The problem is not IN her, it is the portrayal OF her.
Be thankful for the Black woman because truly, no one deserves her. ".
It's caused by the car and food culture. People don't walk, they drive everywhere. The cities aren't even built for walking. No sidewalks, just roads and distant strip malls. They tend to have sedentary jobs instead of physical jobs. Then they eat lots of cheap high calorie foods. End result? Rampant obesity. In poorer countries there are lots of people with no cars who walk everywhere, do physical labor, and don't have as much food to eat.I have lived in quite a few US cities and all have had sidewalks. Can you give an example of a US city with no sidewalks? I'd like to be sure to avoid it. And, it is caused by them not giving a shit. People in poor countries eat even more cheap, high calorie foods. Trust me on that one.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2379cacJQV1Offrq
What do you all think of the psychology of the modern American female, such as the one in the video? With all the advantages given to women today, this women still believes she deserves a seat simply because she is female. This is the type of woman that would make a guy go through hell just to sleep with her. In her mind she is special because of her gender, she is the type of woman I do not want to have sex with.
This is the psychology of the American Women:
We are the American Women!
You will be assimilated.
Your mental, physical and financial distinctiveness will be added to our own.
You will adapt to serve us.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
SavePros321
04-04-15, 02:24
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2379cacJQV1Offrq
What do you all think of the psychology of the modern American female, such as the one in the video? With all the advantages given to women today, this women still believes she deserves a seat simply because she is female. This is the type of woman that would make a guy go through hell just to sleep with her. In her mind she is special because of her gender, she is the type of woman I do not want to have sex with.Just read the comments section at that video link. Men get it and are calling women on their bullshit (asking for "equality" yet wanting special treatment. Can't have it both ways miss).
If we don't give a fuck, then this next generation of dudes coming up behind us REALLY don't give a fuck. It's actually kind of scary:
(This song is a hit song in the U.S., by the way. This isn't even the official music video to this song and it as 8 million+ views!)
I Don't Fuck With you - Big Sean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14K6KtBlusY
"I don't fuck with you
You little stupid ass *****, I ain't fuckin' with you
You little, you little dumb ass *****, I ain't fuckin' with you
I got a million trillion things I'd rather fuckin' do
Than to be fuckin' with you
Little stupid ass, I don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck
I don't I don't I don't give a fuck
***** I don't give a fuck about you or anything that you do
Don't give a fuck about you or anything that you do"
Great movie I saw on netflix streaming last night. Its a semi documentary on a 40 year old retired actress who achieved moderate success who wants to get back in
the business to allow herself some control over her life. This starts out about a couple who moved north of NYC to raise a family. The "boyfriend"/ father of her two
small children has to spend all his time running a bar / restaurant to pay for all the expenses of life including a home while she laments the lack of excitement/romance
"ACTION" in her current situation. However; it appears she took the retirement/family route as her career was petering out. The father dutifully moves out when he
finds out about her exciting affair supporting two households and still willingly pays for everything. No movement at all on her part to ever make the father of her kids
happy just a 100% push to capture old glories. Hmmm somehow one must think she had alot to do with her dull life in suburbia. Of course near the end we find her
sitting with a black eye not caused by either the current lover or boyfriend but just falling down on the streets of Manhattan dead drunk.
I have lived in quite a few US cities and all have had sidewalks. Can you give an example of a US city with no sidewalks? I'd like to be sure to avoid it. And, it is caused by them not giving a shit. People in poor countries eat even more cheap, high calorie foods. Trust me on that one.A lot of the newer suburban areas outside of the older city cores don't have sidewalks on every road. In suburbs everything is also spread out, and stores located in big centralized malls or plazas.
As far as food goes, Americans probably eat more processed foods and restaurant foods, which tend to be loaded with fat, salt and sugar. Poorer people in poorer countries seem to eat more home cooked food, and cheap food cooked on the street.
Naked Gunz
04-16-15, 06:16
Ok this commercial was released on the 14th to TV. CW channel of course, not prime time network. I predict feminazis will have the ad pulled within a week (if they can find it). Just enough time to create a buzz and interest in women who could give a shit. Madison Ave has this stuff down to NASA style science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiHpibGYrew
OldSchool318
04-20-15, 15:56
It really is much simpler than you think and really comes down to this.
If you get a hard dick while talking to a woman and you show it bulging through your pants in most of the world, the lady will know it needs to be drained. She understands exactly and is under no illusions.
As long as she likes you she will drain the leche.
In USA show that to a woman, and they will be offended or tell you, you have to work harder to get her.
Sometimes they will run!
I'll choose option A!
SeizeTheDay
04-21-15, 23:32
This video creeped me out when I watched it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapp-arrest-video-freak-out_n_7110562.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
It seems in America you are damned no matter what you do with American women. If you pay for it you could in up like Warren in the video. The thought of going to jail because of paying for pussy scares me to death, and seeing Warren realize his predicament was visceral for me. I felt like I was there and it was happening to me. I am glad I have my fun outside of the United States. But for many guys today paying for sex is the best route to pursue to have a sexual encounter with a woman. And I am not even talking about ugly guys, average guys get passed over frequently in "Sex Prison". It has been said that male sexuality is one man attracted to many woman. While female sexuality is many women attracted to one male. I think in 2015 woman want to top 15 percent of men, and if you are not that then fuck off. I think because there is no scarcity of men due to war, and ratio of men to woman is exactly equal (age 15-64): women select based off of primal attraction. I think about how many female teachers get caught having sex with [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) male students. Most adult men would probably say they would have loved to fuck a hot teacher as a junior or senior in high school. But what if the teacher was the ugliest female you could imagine, the male would surely want the woman to go to jail for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) then. That is how I believe woman perceive men outside of the top 15 percent. If a hot guy comes up to a girl taking game, demeaning her and tugging on her ass a little, she wants to fuck him right there. If an average guy in the top 65 percent does the same she will scream are greatAPE. But even if you do have sex for "free", there are false are greatAPE claims everywhere against men now. In 2015 you need a signed legal contract, a notary, a witness present during the act, and video to have sex in America. Could someone please tell me what the fuck is going on.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/05/media/rolling-stone-uva-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)-article-columbia-probe/
It seems in America you are damned no matter what you do with American women. If you pay for it you could in up like Warren in the video. The thought of going to jail because of paying for pussy scares me to death, and seeing Warren realize his predicament was visceral for me. I felt like I was there and it was happening to me. I am glad I have my fun outside of the United States. But for many guys today paying for sex is the best route to pursue to have a sexual encounter with a woman.Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.
Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.What have you been smoking? American women want all the rights of men and all the extra priviledges that they are acustomed to.
What they SHOULD do and what they DO are two different things. I stopped dating AWs five years ago. They are too much a pain in the ass. I save it all for foreign beauties in Asia and Carribean.
Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too..
SeizeTheDay
04-24-15, 17:24
Here are the photos of the two woman that got Warren in trouble.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapps-escorts-he-tackled-us-after-naked-altercation/
Here are the photos of the two woman that got Warren in trouble.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapps-escorts-he-tackled-us-after-naked-altercation/Should have just paid the money. Why do men always put what they have worked for all their lives at risk with women that have nothing to lose? Very poor judgement.
Naked Gunz
04-25-15, 05:15
Should have just paid the money. Why do men always put what they have worked for all their lives at risk with women that have nothing to lose? Very poor judgement.In the eighties, when there was no internet, as a young man in the military, during my leave period I always went the phuck home to see the fam (Mom, Dad and the dog). Iwas to stupid and I had no idea about going to Brazil, Phils or just about anywhere in the world to bang my brains out, and get drunk all night. Sorry Sapp, but in this internet information overload age, even your bankrupt child support paying ass should have known to go to ANOTHER COUNTRY to do your dirt. Don't those millionaire ball players talk amongst themselves about what's out there. Don't need brains to be 300 lbs. And knock a guy on his ass.
Here are the photos of the two woman that got Warren in trouble.
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/21/warren-sapps-escorts-he-tackled-us-after-naked-altercation/The one on the left looks like too many drugs. The one on the right, with the chubby face, looks healthier. Of course, I don't know what their bodies look like. Maybe they should've taken body photos as well, from the front, back, and side.
Naked Gunz
04-26-15, 19:21
The one on the left looks like too many drugs. The one on the right, with the chubby face, looks healthier. Of course, I don't know what their bodies look like. Maybe they should've taken body photos as well, from the front, back, and side.Yeah, American view on working girls reduced the provider class to low and none. Only junkies asking for way too much $$. With terrible, rushed service. Be nice to get back in the game and give little to nothing to a grateful Pinay. Here in the Emerald city, the new policy is to bust the john and let the girl go, sigh.
UltraHappy
05-08-15, 23:52
I understand from a very reliable source (a woman who is both of these ages at once) that this song's high levels of accuracy may result in irritable bawling syndrome and spontaneous consumption of comfort food.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-gfxjAaZg0
Reading the comments on that youtube video almost made me think I was reading an ISG thread for a moment!
Enjoy!
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