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Newspapers report major rivers still rising from waters coming from upstream release, e. G. Moon, Chi, Mekhong. Floods could be getting worse in some Eastern Thai provinces and Lao provinces. Large numbers displaced from homes.
Often electricity gets switched off for safety (fallen lines), so then food spoils even if kitchens are not flooded through lack of refridgeration.
Thais in Bangkok are generally agreeing that cost of living in Bangkok has risen very markedly in the last year or two, even buying food in plastic bags at markets sees a price rise. Exchange rates can have been getting worse also.
We have already steep price rises in bars, and starting to spread to some MPs too, e. G. Doki Doki 3700 (or was it 3500) for 90 minutes. Wow! A tiny cafe today charged me 165 Baht for Crab Fried Rice and Clear Vege soup with pork balls. I would have expected under 100 baht merely 2 or 3 years ago. A grilled chicken leg could be anywhere from 50 to 100 Baht now. I can still remember long ago was 20 Baht. I buy raw chicken legs and cook myself. Ha ha. Just weeks ago cooked myself a huge pot of Masaman Chicken with all the special spices.
Fortunately can still get a coffee for 55 Baht in some coffee shops? Why pay Starbucks prices (for the Hiso Thais). Because I drink so much coffee, I prefer to make my own even in a Hotel room. Coffee grounds in filter Paper in funnel dripping into thermos. Its not too bad using 100% Arabica grounds (I pay 109 Baht per box for Meuang Di 100% Arabica in Tops supermarket). That is cheapest 100% I found and taste is acceptable for me.
Attendance of Expats in the Sports Pub is way down. Bad economic times I guess. Food and drinks is not cheap for those on a budget. We can all sneakily get sports program feeds on our smart phones these days, so need to be at the sports pub diminishes. Similarly who needs to attend a movie theatre these days. Can download everything.
I just read travel company Thomas Cook went bust. They were always a rip off anyway for exchange rates etc. in my home country as were Travelex. The world is changing so much. I believe Super Rich at underground floor in the Airport is alright (no commission no fees). You don't want to change much money in Customs Hall with bad rates. I don't have much recent experience since I mainly do transfer to Thai Bank Account.
Fortunately can still get a coffee for 55 Baht in some coffee shops? Why pay Starbucks prices (for the Hiso Thais). Because I drink so much coffee, I prefer to make my own even in a Hotel room.Have you ever tried that All Cafe coffee sold in some 7-11's? It is proper brewed coffee. I usually get a large iced Latte for 40 baht. Pretty good value compared to most of the other coffee shops. And tastes good too.
Thais in Bangkok are generally agreeing that cost of living in Bangkok has risen very markedly in the last year or two, even buying food in plastic bags at markets sees a price rise. Exchange rates can have been getting worse also.Prices are exactly the same since last year in areas outside the farang ghetto and tourist areas. In fact, I had some seafood in my fav seafood joint outside BKK the other day, and paid less based on market value since last spring. Its fruit season now, those 120 sticky rice minis you see in farangland are twice the size at half the price outside, those piles of Sukhumit Langsads at 500 B a kilo are 20 baht a kilo in my area and street meals are still less than 50 b where I'm at.
Tourist prices are increasing because that's the Thai way, less demand, raise the price. Hotel prices are falling a bit.
BTW, if you tourists like a nice little street market, Artbox is across from Thermae. They have Sunrise Tacos there, some Taiwan Tacos, smoothies and the like. Some of the food there is reasonably priced for the area. Its Golden Week though, prices will rise LOL.
Have you ever tried that All Cafe coffee sold in some 7-11's? It is proper brewed coffee. I usually get a large iced Latte for 40 baht. Pretty good value compared to most of the other coffee shops. And tastes good too.Its actually not bad coffee. Its like being back at the convenience Marts in the USA.
I'm very particular about my coffee and I like the independent shops around town. School Coffee at Chong Nonsi is good. The lady who has been down by the Chinese courtyard near Saphan Taksin for probably 10 years makes a good cup. I even like Toms and the like. The coffee in the various pastry shops in the higher end malls is usually excellent, I had a cup I think it was in the Mandarin Oriental Shop at Graysorn and it was pinky cocked 1%er great. The nice thing about Bangkok is than not matter where you are you can get a cup of solid joe. I don't go to Starbucks, not because I can't afford it, but because I don't like the company.
I like the Turkish Coffee around town, I just don't like the environment LOL.
Franciscass
09-27-19, 05:39
An interesting survey on expats in thailand.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1125121-expats-relationships-50-say-its-true-love-but-only-one-in-7-gets-anywhere-near-to-daily-sex/?utm_source=newsletter-20190925-0558&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
BMoreDog69
09-27-19, 12:55
I see it here, Thai Friendly, Thai Cupid etc. I assume the use of 555, 5555, etc is Thai internet slang for LOL due to the pronunciation of the number 5 in Thai. Is this correct, or am I missing something else?
MikeHuntHertz
09-27-19, 17:41
I see it here, Thai Friendly, Thai Cupid etc. I assume the use of 555, 5555, etc is Thai internet slang for LOL due to the pronunciation of the number 5 in Thai. Is this correct, or am I missing something else?Yes Dog! You're on the right track. 5 in Thai is pronounced "Ha". So 555 is HaHaHa!
KeepItMoving
09-28-19, 02:09
I live in a state in the US where recreational marijuana is legal now. Thinking about coming back to Thailand within the next few months for my 4th trip there. How bad of an idea is it to bring in a vape pen or possibly some edibles, like gummies? Though leaning towards a vape pen. In general, I've avoided all drugs on my trips through Asia, including marijuana. The penalty doesn't seem worth it. I had read recently that Thailand was venturing into the medical marijuana scene, so maybe they are starting on the road to decriminalization. I think vape pens are pretty discreet. I've flown with them domestically in the States and no one gives them a second look. So any thoughts? Major bad idea?
An interesting survey on expats in thailand.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1125121-expats-relationships-50-say-its-true-love-but-only-one-in-7-gets-anywhere-near-to-daily-sex/?utm_source=newsletter-20190925-0558&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsYes it is good for a Laugh, without the data being very meaningful.
Some guys are liars about how much sex they get. If the data split between western wife, Thai partner of 2 years or less and long term Thai partner, I think the results would be more useful although small sample size.
"A quarter of people claimed that having a mistress was about companionship not sex. " I suspect some porkies here. Guys eager to secretly meet the mistress for a "conversation" or someone to listen to them crap on. Ha ha. I love listening to my Mrs talk when she is not too loud and not too repetitive (grin grin). Not so much religious talk though.
"In the under thirties only 8% thought a Mia Noi was acceptable. " Older guys much more in favour of outsourcing the sex. For most of us, a Mia Noi is not good enough. 2 or 3 Mia Nois is more like it.
"In general half of respondents said that their relationship was based on true love" Yeh maybe the guy is in love (off his head) and the Thai girl came in for economic reasons (primarily). Some guys were more realistic.
For me getting sex with the Thai Mrs. Varies incredibly. If she has a supply of good quality fresh Ganja, then I get it virtually every day. Otherwise depends on her beer assisted mood. No Ganga and no beer or other alcohol, then I have quite low chances. If my DATY was shitty, then would get even less. There is no such thing as regular for many of us. It depends! I regard Ganja as "horny weed", without using it myself.
I think one always gets a lot more sex in the first year of a relationship, and then it tapers off badly. My ex Farang wife of many years was horny only one day per month. Shitty sex too! Did not even look forward to it, in the end. A Thai wife has to be much better than that.
I regard Ganja as "horny weed", without using it myself.Yeah, all of us Yanks who come from legal land and get the good Cali here, not the ditchweed, just run off with a woody to have sex with the first thing they see walking.
Personally, I fire up a fatty and the only thing I can do is comptemplate whether I call Gallery Pizza for delivery or just gobble on that kilo of grapes I got for 50 baht. Ow wow, look at that, I got some of those little potato looking things like Lychees too. And check it out, Pocky and a leftover hunk of sankaya. But I really want a pizza. I wonder what's on Netflix. (1 hour passes). Damn, maybe I should get a pizza, this fruit juice is matting my chest hair. I guess Ill go to Thermae. Just fire up this roach and take a shower. I should eat before showering though in case I sauce dribble. Oh, damn, look, the Watford match. OK, I'm getting a pizza. Yo Gallery dudes, ya open? What, you close at 4 am?
Weed makes no one horny and creates no sense of urgency. It creates just a cloud of grooviness. I can even laugh at Chinese in the Thermae, it makes the intolerable, tolerable. Sometimes I just follow one around, studying his interactions. I really want to interview the girl after. Hi, size? Speed? I would just be on the floor laughing. I think Ill go tonight, I have a nice bud set aside hahahahahaha.
Ever consider why you only get laid when your wife fires up? Are ya sure its because the weed makes her randy then?
GettingFedUp
09-28-19, 14:58
I live in a state in the US where recreational marijuana is legal now. Thinking about coming back to Thailand within the next few months for my 4th trip there. How bad of an idea is it to bring in a vape pen or possibly some edibles, like gummies? Though leaning towards a vape pen. In general, I've avoided all drugs on my trips through Asia, including marijuana. The penalty doesn't seem worth it. I had read recently that Thailand was venturing into the medical marijuana scene, so maybe they are starting on the road to decriminalization. I think vape pens are pretty discreet. I've flown with them domestically in the States and no one gives them a second look. So any thoughts? Major bad idea?KeepItMoving,
Vape Pens / E-cigarettes are illegal, even for nicotine based substances, in Thailand and it is the latest source of revenue for LE "on the spot fines" from those carrying them. Carrying one with nicotine is therefore risky. Unless you are prepared to lose it and pay a couple of thousand baht into the police pension fund. Carrying one with illicit drugs, IMHO, would be just dumb. Risk of a fine + risk of worse for possession of narcotics. Is it worth it?
I believe the main reason that they are not allowed is that they breach the Government tobacco monopoly, although I have also have heard suggestions that Vape devices potential for use as a delivery medium with illicit drugs (E. G. Meth or THC as you were proposing) also plays a role in not allowing their possession, use, sale or distribution.
KeepItMoving,
Vape Pens / E-cigarettes are illegal, even for nicotine based substances, in Thailand and it is the latest source of revenue for LE "on the spot fines" from those carrying them. Carrying one with nicotine is therefore risky. Unless you are prepared to lose it and pay a couple of thousand baht into the police pension fund. Carrying one with illicit drugs, IMHO, would be just dumb. Risk of a fine + risk of worse for possession of narcotics. Is it worth it?
I believe the main reason that they are not allowed is that they breach the Government tobacco monopoly, although I have also have heard suggestions that Vape devices potential for use as a delivery medium with illicit drugs (E. G. Meth or THC as you were proposing) also plays a role in not allowing their possession, use, sale or distribution.Smuggling anything and is about the dumbest thing you can do, unless you got a ton of money and a ton of connections to smuggle in a lot and pay the appropriate bribes.
That being said, if you know what you're doing, you can even get USA style weed in Thailand.
Ow wow, look at that, I got some of those little potato looking things like Lychees too.
Weed makes no one horny and creates no sense of urgency. It creates just a cloud of grooviness.
Ever consider why you only get laid when your wife fires up? Are ya sure its because the weed makes her randy then?When she suddenly starts wanting sex everyday, and is even asking for it (without waiting for me to take the initiative), there seems little doubt the good quality stuff is relaxing her and making want to groove and have a few orgasms, even be a wildcat briefly. So yes very sure. Low quality dried up stuff does not seem to work well at all. Without the stuff any natural horniness may be getting suppressed by control mechanisms. Alcohol loosens girls control also no doubt, but the good Ganja works better for her desires to overcome control.
I am not trying to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the Mrs. , however do manage to overcome her laziness at times, without the Ganja assist. Once get the mouth on her pussy, she becomes more compliant. She hates to be undressed under my gaze too much (except for sex), for fear it will make me too horny and molest her immediately. Her body is hot.
If weed makes you crazy for food, so be it.
https://g.co/kgs/u8CYtQ
Those little Potato like fruits are probably Longkong (sounds like long-gong) and known as Langsat in English (other names Duku and Lanzones in Philippines), if size of large marbles. They have several white segments inside with a seed in possibly each segment. I quite like them. Not as sweet and perfumy tasting as Lamyai (Longan). Linjee (Lychee) is my favourite though if tangy. My dictionary lists Thai words Longkong and Langsat, so possible they are very slightly different varieties. Many would be aware there are a huge number of different varieties of Bananas, Thurians, Oranges, Apples, Papayas, Mangoes, etc. , most fruits. My favourite Lychee variety is called "Jakaphan", favourite Mango is called "Naam dork mai", and favourite banana is called "Nam-wa" ("LepMeuNang" also good). Names of varieties can matter for the taste. All part of learning the Thai language, so many fruit varieties and vegetables to get to know.
This topic maybe confusing so I quote two good articles.
http://www.richardbarrow.com/2016/02/days-and-times-when-alcohol-cannot-be-sold-in-thailand/
https://www.thephuketnews.com/alcohol-ban-for-end-of-buddhist-lent-over-long-weekend-73173.php#IhRY0 MZSMD1 PH7 pB. 97.
So it appears that alcohol cannot be sold on 5 Buddhist holidays, set in law since 2015 but observed before that I am sure. Hotels maybe exempt.
Also in 2 days before elections.
Also not before 11 am and not between 2 pm and 5 pm.
The last rule is supposedly to stop school children buying alcohol, but that reason is clearly nonsense. Ids of buyer can be checked.
I regularly buy a box of beer outside the official hours, but at selected local family run stores, not 7 eleven or supermarkets. There is no reason to police these stores at all.
My Mrs' uncle was sworn off alcohol for duration of rainy season Buddhist lent (similar to a Ramadan period but for Buddhists).
So yesterday no sales of alcohol but he got drunk really fast, such that even the Mrs could not understand his speech.
So sure alcohol was available. Respect for the religious event, sure some, but many people getting merry.
There are plenty of other public holidays where alcohol can be sold, so don't blame any Kings for being relevant I think.
Today is a public holiday but alcohol sales are normal.
A common problem reported in Thailand is workers get very drunk on public holidays. The day after, they are so hung over they may not show up for work.
Thank you for your continued support to assist the expats and those interested in the Thai culture.
RL.I have to put up with religious mini lectures from the Mrs. Especially Kharma and reincarnation, Ha ha. Met her in 2005. Religious stuff is only mildly interesting but can affect our mongering activities slightly.
We can see bars and MPs making offerings to the Buddha, so even hookers can be quite religious. Thais generally believe in reincarnation and whether they come back in a higher status or lower (like as a dog or insect) can depend on how good they do in this life. Being a hooker does not seem to make them think they are a bad person at all, and may still ascend to Nirvana (the ultimate without needing to be reincarnated).
I have been to a lot of temples and quite a few Thai religious ceremonies in my time, whether funerals, boys becoming a monk, religious holidays etc.
I also hear talk about spirits (souls with no living body to live in), which is not fully compatible with Buddhism as far as I can tell. We can see little spirit houses around the place. Thais generally believe in spirits or ghosts.
The best thing about Buddhism is that it is very tolerant of persons having other religions, not trying to make out every other religion is bullshit.
Question for those with vasectomy. After the Op, can I expect my cum to look, smell or taste any better? I suspect not, since Sperm would have been such a small percentage of the total volume. However web does not like to focus on these type of questions.
Would be great though, if there was a vasectomy side effect of making cum smell and taste better. Smell slightly reminds of some weak chemical like chlorine or ammonia, etc. Not exactly, but not nice.
If cum stained tissues are left lying around, the smell is certainly detectable and not desirable at all.
I was reading the web about semen phobias, and even about fear of swallowing it. I came across something that explains the bad taste. Apparently it is a metallic taste due to high quantity of Zinc. I understand that since I have Zinc supplement pills that taste real nasty metallic.
https://greatsexguidance.com/question/swallowing-seme/
Apparently high salt intake or high zinc intake could make it taste worse quite possibly, for a girl doing CIM.
Question for those with vasectomy. After the Op, can I expect my cum to look, smell or taste any better? I suspect not, since Sperm would have been such a small percentage of the total volume. However web does not like to focus on these type of questions.It has been many years since I got my vasectomy but remember wondering the same kind of thing before the surgery. Almost the same thing. I was more just wondering if it would be any different, not necessarily better. But, no, I did not notice any difference.
Of course, my only experience with tasting my own cum would be the obligatory slightly open mouth kiss with tongues briefly touching I am willing to give my girl a few minutes after I have finished inside her mouth but well after she has swallowed let's say 99% of it by then. I am talking about the gesture I make in kissing her on the mouth soon afterwards, before she goes into the bathroom as most of us do after sex anyway, to assure her that I do not think what she just did in taking it in her mouth and swallowing it was nasty, dirty, revolting, a humiliation, degrading, an insult, whatever. Which I do not think for real anyway. And in getting just trace amounts of it onto my tongue and lips at that moment, I would say the experience smells and tastes no different now than it did many years ago before I got my vasectomy.
Mostek6502
10-20-19, 15:30
Question for those with vasectomy. .I had one two years ago. You balls will ache a little for two or three days. After that, everything is back to the way it was before.
Not having to ever worry about some woman trying to trap you useing the oldest trick in the book is an incredible relief.
Cannot comment about the taste. I met a girl a few months ago who was (and still is) a virgin, the hymen was intact. She absolutely loved sucking cock and swallowing the load, fantastic. BTW she was terrified of pregnancy.
Mr Enternational
10-20-19, 17:28
I had one two years ago. You balls will ache a little for two or three days. After that, everything is back to the way it was before.I had mine 4 or 5 years ago. My balls didn't hurt at all. What was sore was the inside around the lower part of my stomach from them pulling on the tubes. Think how you would feel the next day if you had not worked out in years, then one day you did 1000 crunches. They poked a hole in my sack and did what they had to do from there. After it was over, they put a cotton ball and a band aid on top of the hole.
All it does is cut off the sperm. The semen is something totally different and is not affected. Although I have no intentions of doing a taste test, I think it is more what your diet is that affects the taste of the semen, and not whether it contains sperm or not. It is said that smoking, drinking alcohol, and eating pineapples are some things that affect the taste.
Robert Long
10-20-19, 21:44
I had mine 4 or 5 years ago. My balls didn't hurt at all. What was sore was the inside around the lower part of my stomach from them pulling on the tubes. Think how you would feel the next day if you had not worked out in years, then one day you did 1000 crunches. They poked a hole in my sack and did what they had to do from there. After it was over, they put a cotton ball and a band aid on top of the hole.
All it does is cut off the sperm. The semen is something totally different and is not affected. Although I have no intentions of doing a taste test, I think it is more what your diet is that affects the taste of the semen, and not whether it contains sperm or not. It is said that smoking, drinking alcohol, and eating pineapples are some things that affect the taste.
Never went there just noticed it from a window in a hotel I was staying at. No cutting sounds good. It's called " The Non Scalpel Vasectomy Center" , it's between Soi 8 and 10 . Good luck, worth looking into.
RL.
Never went there just noticed it from a window in a hotel I was staying at. No cutting sounds good. It's called " The Non Scalpel Vasectomy Center" , it's between Soi 8 and 10 . Good luck, worth looking into.
RL.The non scalpel vasectomy procedure has been a popular method for performing one for decades. It's the way mine was performed 30+ years ago. Instead of making one or two insicions with a scalpel on the scrotum to access and cut the appropriate tubes, one small puncture hole is made. The doctor then pulls each of the two tubes out through the same hole to cut them and then tuck them back inside. A puncture hole is less intrusive, bleeds less and heals faster than an incision.
In my case, the puncture was made back behind my balls closer to the taint rather than in front of my balls closer to the base of my penis.
After trying a regional Immigration office in the province, I start to see the good aspects of Chaeng Wattana Immigration Office. They are reasonably efficient. Ha ha.
For 30 day extension I had to visit regional Im office on Friday for 90 minutes to 2 hours (even they had no customers) but they could not get computer to work so had to return Monday, for another 90 minutes in total. The queue of people was short, however other matters seemed to have priority. So waited well over 40 mins for no apparent reason, for them to call my number. Maybe a 30 day extension takes much longer, ha ha. It was 50 km drive to get there so counting both days, 200 km travelled.
Chaeng Wattana and possible heavy traffic start to seem good. Just time the right days and time of day, to avoid heavy traffic and long queues. I. e. First thing Monday is about the worst I reckon. I think Late morning Tuesday is pretty good, for shorter waiting queues.
One does not need to wait till permit to be in Thailand is on its last day. In case a of something going wrong, it is easier to apply for 30 days extension, a few days before stay has elapsed. You won't lose any days. They just want your money! 1900 Baht.
Mr Enternational
10-21-19, 12:30
One does not need to wait till permit to be in Thailand is on its last day. In case a of something going wrong, it is easier to apply for 30 days extension, a few days before stay has elapsed. You won't lose any days. They just want your money! 1900 Baht.When I tried to do it that way in Pattaya, they told me I had to come back on the day it was expiring.
BMoreDog69
10-23-19, 01:46
This would probably make a good topic all by itself. My apologies that this isn't a report.
Looking at sites like Thai Friendly and Thai Cupid, I am curious about the search criteria, and what to look for in selecting ladies that are more inclined to be open to P4P type arrangements.
I tend to look at the age of the lady and the range of ages she is interested in. Ladies that say any age to any age are definitely on my list. Thai Cupid has loselects playful answers, sherts of fields and if the lady says "any" to most things, or playful answers to specific questions, I take that as a good sign.
Any other search strategies for thinning out the scads of ladies on these sites?
When I tried to do it that way in Pattaya, they told me I had to come back on the day it was expiring.I don't think I ever extended on the absolute last day, so what they told you is bullshit. Hard to understand what was going on.
I read the Pattaya Immigration office (Soi 8) closed and is replaced by one in Jomtien.
There also seems to be a phone App to assist:
http://immchonburi.go.th/main/app/index.html
Robert Long
10-23-19, 06:15
This would probably make a good topic all by itself. My apologies that this isn't a report.
Looking at sites like Thai Friendly and Thai Cupid, I am curious about the search criteria, and what to look for in selecting ladies that are more inclined to be open to P4P type arrangements.
I tend to look at the age of the lady and the range of ages she is interested in. Ladies that say any age to any age are definitely on my list. Thai Cupid has loselects playful answers, sherts of fields and if the lady says "any" to most things, or playful answers to specific questions, I take that as a good sign.
Any other search strategies for thinning out the scads of ladies on these sites?Cut to the chase. I do. I ask them if they are looking for a BF or a Customer. They will reply honestly and tell you what the are looking for. It works great in Phuket. 90% are looking for a customer. I play golf in the morning, do personal business during the day and later on I pull up TF and pick a bed warmer. No Bar BS or Bar fine.
The majority want an overnight and you can nego a good price.
RL.
This would probably make a good topic all by itself. My apologies that this isn't a report.
Looking at sites like Thai Friendly and Thai Cupid, I am curious about the search criteria, and what to look for in selecting ladies that are more inclined to be open to P4P type arrangements.
I tend to look at the age of the lady and the range of ages she is interested in. Ladies that say any age to any age are definitely on my list. Thai Cupid has loselects playful answers, sherts of fields and if the lady says "any" to most things, or playful answers to specific questions, I take that as a good sign.
Any other search strategies for thinning out the scads of ladies on these sites?I agree with Robert Long's reply on this. I would add that in terms of the "Search" function of those two dating sites, you probably want to keep the geographic area of your search as close as possible to the ground zero red light districts. It is a bit uncertain how effective that is because we never know what geographic area many or most of the P4P-leaning girls say they reside on their profile. Maybe they say they are living several hours away by bus in Korat on their profile but in fact they are currently rooming with 2 other girls in a 2,500 baht per month room in Rangsit (about an hour away from lower Sukhumvit by BTS and minivan) or right down nearby Soi 16. I suppose the alternative then would be to expand your search to Any city Anywhere in Thailand, then filter out for reasonable distance from where you are as quickly as possible when you chat.
Anyway, for ThaiFriendly it is pretty easy to choose the best geographic location for your search, imo; the Search choices would be Thailand-Bangkok-Sukhumvit (or, the alternate option, Within 15kms of All Areas of Bangkok).
For ThaiCupid, I choose Within 50 kms (that is the shortest distance you can choose) of the Khlong Toei district in Bangkok. The Khlong Toei district roughly encompasses lower Sukhumvit Road to the Chao Phraya River and from the expressway just past Soi 1 to the BTS On Nut station.
Also, this might seem obvious, but if you are really only interested in focusing on P4P girls, Search for girls only interested in Romance/Dating or similar where possible, not Penpal, Friendship, Marriage, etc. However, a rather high percentage of girls who I wind up in bed with very quickly and often after some concept of financial aid has been mentioned do say they are looking for Friendship on their profiles. Of course, you can also say outright on your profile that you want to meet girls looking for a customer.
BTW, my technique for attracting interest from online dating site girls who aren't quite yet ready to admit to themselves they are open to P4P but, given a bit of time, could get there or to a reasonable facsimile under the right circumstances (haha) would not necessarily be the same as above. But that is a different topic.
Mr Enternational
10-23-19, 13:33
Looking at sites like Thai Friendly and Thai Cupid, I am curious about the search criteria, and what to look for in selecting ladies that are more inclined to be open to P4P type arrangements.
I tend to look at the age of the lady and the range of ages she is interested in. Ladies that say any age to any age are definitely on my list. I don't think that is a good strategy because a lot of people just rush through filing those profiles out, not giving any serious thought to them. Like RL said, just ask them what they are looking for. They will tell you if they are looking for customer. I never do any type of search. I just work with the first pages that come up of people that are on at the particular moment, sending them likes and sometimes messages.
I have not been on Thai Cupid in years, but on Thai Friendly most girls already have it in their profiles that they are P4P. As soon as you say hello to some they will respond with prices. But it really is a mixed bag. I have met plenty of non-pros on those sites as well. Next week, one Thai Friendly chick that graduated from chef school is coming from like 5 hours away to see me in Pattaya on her 2 days off work. Don't forget about trolling Tinder as well.
They will reply honestly and tell you what the are looking for. It works great in Phuket. 90% are looking for a customer.In Phuket I met up with a chick from Tinder that worked at a massage place. During the day things were slow at her shop so she wanted to meet up with me on Bangla Rd for a few minutes to have a drink. When we finished the drink, she said she would like to see me later on when she got off work. She had me thinking she was a non-pro chick. A little while after we finished fucking she said I have to go home now; give me money. I gave her 1000 baht and the next couple of days that I was there she kept hitting me up trying to come back. I am a variety guy though.
BMoreDog69
10-24-19, 02:36
Thanks guys. Stuff I wouldn't have considered. Shit, just come right out and say P4P. What a concept!
The baht has hit a six year high so things are getting dear and many expats are selling up and moving back home as its too pricey now on their pensions.
I've used TF before in Pattaya and from what I understand many of the girls there are freelancers but not all. And Pattaya is different to other cities where it's more used for Thai's to look for farang husbands or boyfriends.
I put in my profile that I am "looking for fun", that's clear enough but not offensive. I will politely message a girl I am interested in that I saw her on TF, am interested in her and ask for her line ID. If her line info is in her profile then it's a sign that she is a freelancer but it might also say not working girl. Then on line, I ask if she is interested in stopping by my hotel for a short time, by then she should be quoting a price. Your first message could also ask plainly. Would you come to my hotel for 1,000 THB?
I can't comment on Tinder or ThaiCupid, I have heard that TF is the way to go in Pattaya.
This would probably make a good topic all by itself. My apologies that this isn't a report.
Looking at sites like Thai Friendly and Thai Cupid, I am curious about the search criteria, and what to look for in selecting ladies that are more inclined to be open to P4P type arrangements.
I tend to look at the age of the lady and the range of ages she is interested in. Ladies that say any age to any age are definitely on my list. Thai Cupid has loselects playful answers, sherts of fields and if the lady says "any" to most things, or playful answers to specific questions, I take that as a good sign.
Any other search strategies for thinning out the scads of ladies on these sites?I find Thai Cupid to be a waste of time.
Regarding TF,
I activate 1 months premium membership set to expire the day I leave Thailand.
I set my preferred age and weight. I click on favourite for any girl that I would like to hit up using notes if I have her LINE ID etc.
I do not message any girl until I am at least 24 hours away from being in Pattaya.
I put on my profile that I am either not in Pattaya and do not message me or that I am in Pattaya.
If a girl sends me a message I reply but tell her that I am not in Pattaya but if she meets my criteria to send me her LINE ID and I will contact her when I arrive.
If a girl sends me a message and she does not match my preferences I block her. When looking thru profiles I will block any girl that does not appeal to me so she is not constantly appearing.
I ignore their age preferences and if they do not reply I know that I do not meet their criteria.
It is up to you how much time you invest in TF but like anything your return depends on your investment. I usually stay for 8 days and if I plan on meeting 3 girls a day I will try to get 1 TF FL per day.
The baht has hit a six year high so things are getting dear and many expats are selling up and moving back home as its too pricey now on their pensions.Relative to AUD and EUR the THB has got back approx. To 1996 exchange levels. That is pre economic crash. We probably thought it would not get back to those levels. So hurts. The USD is relatively better off still getting more Baht than 1996 levels. This is not a comment on converting USD to EUR (still worth more than $1). USD gets over 30 Baht I think. In mid 90's maybe was 23 Baht. So 30 Baht is not bad given recovery from economic crashes.
The price of girls should go down in line with deteriorating exchange rates, right? Ha ha.
Retirees would be quite unwise to reply on post crash rates to last forever.
Why is the THB improving so much? Surely most people think the economy is not good.
Expats moving back home? Many moved to cheaper Cambodia I think.
GuyBrusg1957
10-29-19, 04:17
A few quick questions.
1. What's up with all the girls with braces? Are all the girls incredibly young as in 18 years old?
2. What's the overall difference between Pattaya City and Bangkok (Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, etc.).
3. Are the websites of Sapphire Club and Billboard Bangkok accurate?
3. Is the only high end option Smooci and a few of the other sites? If I want a ten of out ten stunner in Bangkok or Pattaya are there any other options?
4. What is the reliability of smooci?
Thanks.
Banana Boi
10-29-19, 05:32
TNN have reported that the average Indian spends a whopping 5,800 baht a day. This is from Thai Visa. Contrary to what is posted on ISG, seems like Indian tourists spend more than the average ISG guy.
A few quick questions.
1. What's up with all the girls with braces? Are all the girls incredibly young as in 18 years old?
2. What's the overall difference between Pattaya City and Bangkok (Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, etc.).
3. Are the websites of Sapphire Club and Billboard Bangkok accurate?
3. Is the only high end option Smooci and a few of the other sites? If I want a ten of out ten stunner in Bangkok or Pattaya are there any other options?
4. What is the reliability of smooci?
Thanks.I will answer where I can.
1/ Asians have a high level of crowded teeth etc. When the girl begins to get money from work one of the first things they do is get their teeth fixed. I have seen girls as old as their 30's with braces.
2/ Pattaya is very easy to access with 99% of venues between North Pattaya Road, Soi 16, Beach Road and 3rd Road where as in Bangkok, from my limited experience, you have Soi Cowboy and NPE which are one MRT stop away and is a hassle travelling from one to the other.
3 a / The websites are shot by professional photographers and plain girls are not included in the shots but also not all girls will want their photos taken so buyer beware.
3 b / and 4/ Never used Smooci as it is not in Pattaya, my choice of destination, but from looking at the website the quality of girls are not much better than TF, keeping in mind the photos are professional shots. I do not know how reliable they are.
Mr Enternational
10-30-19, 00:15
1/ Asians have a high level of crowded teeth etc. When the girl begins to get money from work one of the first things they do is get their teeth fixed. I have seen girls as old as their 30's with braces.LOL. Most of those are fashion braces man, not real braces. The girl that was doing my nails at the salon that I go to in Manila had some yesterday. I asked her about them and she said they cost 3000 pesos /1,777 baht /58 USD. They are popular in Latin America as well.
That reminds me of years ago when guys in the Dominican Republic thread were talking about the women there being deathly afraid of going into the water. I explained to them that most of those women being Black, have processed or fake hair and going into the water would fuck it up. So it had nothing to do with them being afraid of the pool or ocean, they just did not want their hair ruined. Same as this case is not about having fucked up teeth, but wanting to be in style.
I will answer where I can.
2/ Pattaya is very easy to access with 99% of venues between North Pattaya Road, Soi 16, Beach Road and 3rd Road where as in Bangkok, from my limited experience, you have Soi Cowboy and NPE which are one MRT stop away and is a hassle travelling from one to the other..Bet ya I can walk from Cowboy to NEP as fast as you can walk from Soi 6 to Beach Road.
Taxis and bikes are cheaper in BKK. And its one BTS stop, not MRT.
The overall difference between Pattaya and Bangkok is that Pattaya is a degenerate sewer that caters to the basest instincts of mankind and nothing else, while Bangkok is one of the most vibrant cities in the world with far more to do than just wallow in your own filth. Plus there are tons more places to have manly fun.
LOL. Most of those are fashion braces man, not real braces. The girl that was doing my nails at the salon that I go to in Manila had some yesterday. I asked her about them and she said they cost 3000 pesos /1,777 baht /58 USD. They are popular in Latin America as well.
That reminds me of years ago when guys in the Dominican Republic thread were talking about the women there being deathly afraid of going into the water. I explained to them that most of those women being Black, have processed or fake hair and going into the water would fuck it up. So it had nothing to do with them being afraid of the pool or ocean, they just did not want their hair ruined. Same as this case is not about having fucked up teeth, but wanting to be in style.LOL different attitudes in different countries. My youngest has just got braces, bad teeth inherited from her Indo mum, and all the kids here hate them. The one or two girls I have gotten close to in Pattaya who have braces have mentioned about getting them adjusted, and not asked me to pay for them 555 and that has made me believe that all of them have dental problems. You live there so I believe you but shake my head at what is deemed fashionable.
This is from Thai Visa. Contrary to what is posted on ISG, seems like Indian tourists spend more than the average ISG guy.Just like sex surveys, guys exaggerate. I would not be trusting these stats as reliable. There are lies, damned lies, and then statistics.
Robert Long
10-30-19, 07:33
A few quick questions.
1. What's up with all the girls with braces? Are all the girls incredibly young as in 18 years old?
2. What's the overall difference between Pattaya City and Bangkok (Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, etc.).
3. Are the websites of Sapphire Club and Billboard Bangkok accurate?
3. Is the only high end option Smooci and a few of the other sites? If I want a ten of out ten stunner in Bangkok or Pattaya are there any other options?
4. What is the reliability of smooci?
Thanks.Grills:
They are in style. The brothers in the US wear them with diamonds and colored stones. Solid gold is the fav, and shows they have money. Like the multiple gold chains or Bling they call it.
Remember my friend, a 10 knows she is a 10. And her service will be lack. If you have a lot of money to throw around, maybe she will preform but it depends. Like George Carlan said " I never fucked a 10, but I fucked a lot of 2's" and the 2's were great.
RL.
Robert Long
10-30-19, 07:50
Relative to AUD and EUR the THB has got back approx. To 1996 exchange levels. That is pre economic crash. We probably thought it would not get back to those levels. So hurts. The USD is relatively better off still getting more Baht than 1996 levels. This is not a comment on converting USD to EUR (still worth more than $1). USD gets over 30 Baht I think. In mid 90's maybe was 23 Baht. So 30 Baht is not bad given recovery from economic crashes.
The price of girls should go down in line with deteriorating exchange rates, right? Ha ha.
Retirees would be quite unwise to reply on post crash rates to last forever.
Why is the THB improving so much? Surely most people think the economy is not good.
Expats moving back home? Many moved to cheaper Cambodia I think.I did some quick calculations, based on what an American expat gets in social security. Not many get $2100.00 a month. That's a rare earner. Most I think get around $1500.00 a month.
I based on $2100.00.
At 35 thb =$1. 00 73,500 a month.
At 33 thb =$1. 00 69,300.
At 30 thb = $1. 00 63,000.
If I remember correctly, you need a flow of 70,000 thb a month to qualify for a retirement visa, or 800,000 in a savings account in Thailand.
800,000 x 30 =$1. 00 $26,666 in a Thai bank account. And the US dollar is tops, can you imagine the Canadian or Ausy? Say good buy to a lot of your friends.
Visa runs are not cheap, airline tickets, taxi, hotel. Is it worth it any more? Syzy is right, Hello, Cambodia or Manila.
RL.
LittleBigMan
10-30-19, 08:22
I did some quick calculations, based on what an American expat gets in social security. Not many get $2100.00 a month. That's a rare earner. Most I think get around $1500.00 a month.
I based on $2100.00.
At 35 thb =$1. 00 73,500 a month.
At 33 thb =$1. 00 69,300.
At 30 thb = $1. 00 63,000.
If I remember correctly, you need a flow of 70,000 thb a month to qualify for a retirement visa, or 800,000 in a savings account in Thailand.
800,000 x 30 =$1. 00 $26,666 in a Thai bank account. And the US dollar is tops, can you imagine the Canadian or Ausy? Say good buy to a lot of your friends.
Visa runs are not cheap, airline tickets, taxi, hotel. Is it worth it any more? Syzy is right, Hello, Cambodia or Manila.
RL.My opinion is not to panic? In my own experience, I know numbers of American and Brits living here in Pattaya with the many changes in Immigration add that with the strength of the baht, many of gone to Cambodia and Manilla for a look and came back with more? My opinion is the grass is never greener?
In my opinion, there is a huge difference between visiting and living here? There are those who visit and visit then move here and find out after a few months to a year it kind of gets old? I see it from those who report and live here after a while you see it in their reports how it changes.
When it comes to money it depends on your lifestyle people get carried away unless you have it to blow and not miss it I say knock yourself out but I see guys bring all their stuff etc. I think you can live pretty good lifestyle accommodations for 10,000 baht a month. I know everyone is different but single guys renting houses, 2 bedroom condos I don't get it?
Sure today immigration wants the money in the bank or monthly, even some pushing for us retiree to have a minimal amount of health insurance then you got that stupid TM-30. The biggest headache for me at least as you get older you better put money aside for health care and take care of yourself self-management. Sure I know guys who don't blink twice about it I have admiration for these guys don't know how they do it! A former member here Daddy07, was such a guy he went out every night ate had his drink each night at a GoG had a blast while he was alive told me once " when it happens it happens " told me hopes he just drop dead. He got his wish they found him in his Condo!
If you burn your bridges back home and can't go home better start to put money aside now. I planned when I got here 15 years ago to live on the rate 25-1 and I will be just fine sure it is going down but I have a cushion. You can live for today and have no tomorrow or you can live for tomorrow and still have a pretty good life here.
LOL. Most of those are fashion braces man, not real braces. The girl that was doing my nails at the salon that I go to in Manila had some yesterday. I asked her about them and she said they cost 3000 pesos /1,777 baht /58 USD. They are popular in Latin America as well.I disagree with that.
I don't know for the place you're talking about but in Thailand it's essentially because their teeth are not good looking.
The style effect is real because they truly believe that they are prettier with the braces (as if it was a jewelry) and sometimes they don't like their looks when it's time to take them out, but the primary purpose is to get good looking teeth.
Even a lot of guys are wearing braces while that are already adults.
In old days as a young man I bought the odd girly mag because I wanted to look at some beautiful girls naked and some hot pussy. Years later bought the odd porn video, even pirated ones in Thailand.
I keep thinking the porn industry has got to die out. I mean who pays for porn anyway, these days? It has been obtainable for free for a long time now, and does not have to be blurry. Adverts for porn games or webcam sites? Do they really work and bring enough revenue? Videos of webcams can also be watched for free. Who needs to interact? For interaction, I use real live naked girls, no video chat thankyou very much. Even years ago stuck in own country I would prefer a club with real live nude girls. The brothel girls were generally terrible not worth the money, excepting Asians. In home country I can just abstain and watch a few sexy movies when desperate (at no cost).
What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ? They can't put their own dick in her. I prefer video as can fast forward past all the boring bits, e.g. blow jobs.
Now sometimes I have downloaded Jap porn, mostly accidentally, and it is a great load of shit to me. Condoms, pixelated genitals, girl subjugation, not much beauty. Lately I noticed a new thing. Even Jap porn marked "uncensored", still has the genital region blurred at least a little bit (purpose is not evident. Can it technically subvert the indecency laws?) Can still see the dick going into pussy, just not sharp. Today found a Jap video, that I thought was really amusing. The pussy was crystal clear but the face was pixelated. Maybe some sarcasm there. However the video did nothing to turn me on, as usual. Not my style at all.
How many Terabytes of porn do guys need to collect before they are satisfied and have enough? Ha Ha. Forgive me if exaggerate a little. Maybe guys need new porn just as much as they need new girls continually.
So what new innovation can occur to make people want to pay for new porn? I just don't get it anymore. How can they make money when people can pirate porn for free so easily. Can advertising attached actually work. I never paid any attention to Ads at all.
Someone has to pay for it but why? Maybe its cheaper than a fuck, but we also would not pay for sex if we could get it for free from equally hot girls so easily, and when we want it.
GuyBrusg1957
10-30-19, 18:42
Grills:
They are in style. The brothers in the US wear them with diamonds and colored stones. Solid gold is the fav, and shows they have money. Like the multiple gold chains or Bling they call it.
Remember my friend, a 10 knows she is a 10. And her service will be lack. If you have a lot of money to throw around, maybe she will preform but it depends. Like George Carlan said " I never fucked a 10, but I fucked a lot of 2's" and the 2's were great.
RL.Wow, people wear braces because they think it looks good? How many girls do this? To me, it's a huge turn off.
GuyBrusg1957
10-30-19, 18:43
I will answer where I can.
1/ Asians have a high level of crowded teeth etc. When the girl begins to get money from work one of the first things they do is get their teeth fixed. I have seen girls as old as their 30's with braces.
2/ Pattaya is very easy to access with 99% of venues between North Pattaya Road, Soi 16, Beach Road and 3rd Road where as in Bangkok, from my limited experience, you have Soi Cowboy and NPE which are one MRT stop away and is a hassle travelling from one to the other.
3 a / The websites are shot by professional photographers and plain girls are not included in the shots but also not all girls will want their photos taken so buyer beware.
3 b / and 4/ Never used Smooci as it is not in Pattaya, my choice of destination, but from looking at the website the quality of girls are not much better than TF, keeping in mind the photos are professional shots. I do not know how reliable they are.Thanks,
I was trying to get a feel for how Bangkok and Pattya were different not just logistically speaking. And I know these photos are professionally shot but how much different are these from reality?
Mr Enternational
10-30-19, 20:35
What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ?I say the same about guys that send money to chicks they never met; or even to ones they have met for that matter.
Wow, people wear braces because they think it looks good? How many girls do this? To me, it's a huge turn off.Yes.
I'm really not sure how this crept into Thai culture. As with most of the Thai fads / trends it possibly came from Korea?
Maybe a Kpop star wore braces and the trend started from there.
I personally know two girls here in Isan who claim that braces look good on them.
One is a Teacher approx 35 years old.
It just looks weird to me.
I recall picking a hottie from a fishbowl soapie who was really stunning. Good titties too.
As she collected her basket and I was paying the cashier she turned to me and smiled.
Her mouth was full of metal. All I could think of was that cage making mince meat out of my tool.
I reluctantly went through with the deed but it was a really awkward experience.
It's a deal breaker for me.
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What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ? They can't put their own dick in her.
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There are always the painfully shy, handicapped, infirm, hideously ugly, grossly deformed from birth or injury, too young to travel or enter a bar, too old to partake without great expense, etc.
As wide a range of looks, age, fitness, physical challenge and so on as we see walking around with real girls or ladyboys on their arm in the red light districts, there is a whole world out there of men who are not so lucky or brave enough to be able to emerge from their room and into the light of day on their own. But they've probably got enough money to pop for a webcam every now and then.
Mr Enternational
10-31-19, 02:29
And I know these photos are professionally shot but how much different are these from reality?You can find that out by doing a google search.
This is from Thai Visa. Contrary to what is posted on ISG, seems like Indian tourists spend more than the average ISG guy.Depends whether that includes their hotel or not. If they are paying THB 1,500 for their hotel then 4,300 probably isn't more than others would spend. On a 2 day trip to Bangkok I would spend 10,000, excluding hotels.
You can find that out by doing a google search.Ha ha. A couple of those stars actually look better without the makeup to me. I guess because I hate very exaggerated fake looks.
If a girl looks beautiful when first wakes up in the morning, that impresses me a lot. Then subtle makeup is good. Huge eyelashes don't do much for me at all.
Wow, people wear braces because they think it looks good? How many girls do this? To me, it's a huge turn off.It's a turn on for me. If I see a girl with braces, I am much more likely to take her over one who does not have braces.
GettingFedUp
10-31-19, 06:42
2/ ..... where as in Bangkok, from my limited experience, you have Soi Cowboy and NPE which are one MRT stop away and is a hassle travelling from one to the other.Indeed, the hassle of getting from Soi Cowboy (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) to Nana Plaza (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) by MRT is famous.
If only there were some form of light railway built above Sukhumvit Road to get us there. They could call it air train. But wait, people might think it went to the airport, so maybe Bangkok mass Transit System (BTS) or Sky Train.
Walking is of course a criminal offence in Lower Sukhumvit and in any event not entertaining. If only there were venues between Cowboy and Nana Plaza. Maybe nightclubs down one Soi, massage places down others, perhaps a couple of blow job bars and a few dozen or more bars with willing and negotiable ladies.
And in the distopian Bangkok which you seem to have experienced, and is much at odds with many peoples experience, such a shame that there are no "oily massage" places to the east of Cowboy, no area of interest in the Silom part of town, no soapies. . . .
When it comes to money it depends on your lifestyle people get carried away unless you have it to blow and not miss it I say knock yourself out but I see guys bring all their stuff etc. I think you can live pretty good lifestyle accommodations for 10,000 baht a month. I know everyone is different but single guys renting houses, 2 bedroom condos I don't get it?.I know you said everyone is different and have different life style, and I completely agree.
But 10,000 baht? In Bangkok?
Even if someone lives in a sharing shady hostel, and don't have P4P habits, 10 k still seems too far fetched.
In old days as a young man I bought the odd girly mag because I wanted to look at some beautiful girls naked and some hot pussy. Years later bought the odd porn video, even pirated ones in Thailand.
I keep thinking the porn industry has got to die out. I mean who pays for porn anyway, these days? It has been obtainable for free for a long time now, and does not have to be blurry. Adverts for porn games or webcam sites? Do they really work and bring enough revenue? Videos of webcams can also be watched for free. Who needs to interact? For interaction, I use real live naked girls, no video chat thankyou very much. Even years ago stuck in own country I would prefer a club with real live nude girls. The brothel girls were generally terrible not worth the money, excepting Asians. In home country I can just abstain and watch a few sexy movies when desperate (at no cost).
What persuades guys that they want to pay for a "private" webcam show? What for ? They can't put their own dick in her. I prefer video as can fast forward past all the boring bits, e.g. blow jobs.
Now sometimes I have downloaded Jap porn, mostly accidentally, and it is a great load of shit to me. Condoms, pixelated genitals, girl subjugation, not much beauty..I agree with not paying for live chats / cams, too much hassle for not much value.
4 k and VR porn is a big market. With VR porn, you can be in the middle of the action with 10 girls or whatever fit your tastes at the convenience and safety of your bedroom. They are relatively cheap for access to the entire library of a site. Just type into google best 4 k / vr porn site and you'll get the idea.
LittleBigMan
11-01-19, 15:37
I know you said everyone is different and have different life style, and I completely agree.
But 10,000 baht? In Bangkok?
Even if someone lives in a sharing shady hostel, and don't have p4 p habits, 10 k still seems too far fetched.Your reference is correct about Bangkok, I was talking about Pattaya but that doesn't mean move here! Stay away from it is a shit hole! 10,000 was also reference to accomodation only!
Robert Long
11-01-19, 19:41
Indeed, the hassle of getting from Soi Cowboy (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) to Nana Plaza (nearest MRT Sukhumvit) by MRT is famous.
If only there were some form of light railway built above Sukhumvit Road to get us there. They could call it air train. But wait, people might think it went to the airport, so maybe Bangkok mass Transit System (BTS) or Sky Train.
Walking is of course a criminal offence in Lower Sukhumvit and in any event not entertaining. If only there were venues between Cowboy and Nana Plaza. Maybe nightclubs down one Soi, massage places down others, perhaps a couple of blow job bars and a few dozen or more bars with willing and negotiable ladies.
And in the distopian Bangkok which you seem to have experienced, and is much at odds with many peoples experience, such a shame that there are no "oily massage" places to the east of Cowboy, no area of interest in the Silom part of town, no soapies. . . .The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.
BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.
The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.
RL.
The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.
BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.
The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.
RL.Dude where do you live? Both lines are crowded as hell in rush hour and other certain times. The difference between the two lines is that BTS covers the Main tourist district, the MRT does not, except Asoke-Sala Daeng / Silom, so its always going to be a bit less crowded as it does not go to Silom / Chitlom.
Now that of course is for those of us who live here. I will agree that a motosai or even a TukTuk will get you some place faster, ie Nana to Soi Cowboy, but I wouldn't be riding either from say more than a mile away, and yes, I have done it.
If you are mongering, here is your scout route:
Take the BTS to Nana, or walk to Soi 8.
Take the exit to Soi 8.
Go down Soi 8, turn right on the second alley.
Head down the alley.
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) girls will be on the left 100 meters in. Gaze upon them with lust.
Go past them or catch a suck, whatever, cut through the little walkway near the hair stylist and Argo Restaurant.
On your left will be Kasalong. Gaze upon them with lust.
Head down the street, you will see Soi Nana beckoning you like the working girl of Babylon in the distance.
Walk that way. This is a good street to fire up a doobie if you want.
400 meters, you reach Soi Nana. Turn right.
Cruise down Soi Nana. Gaze upon the hookers with lust. GGs primarily on the west side, LBs on the East.
I don't need to go over Nana itself. Gaze upon it with lust.
Go to Suk. Cross the street. Turn right.
Soi 7. Beergarden and African girls. Soi 7/1 BJ bars.
Continue up Suk. Hookers all the way.
Soi 11. You can walk down one side to the T and then back the other. This is the foreigner party district.
Back up Suk. The hookers are getting thick. The better looking ones are Ladyboys. Gaze upon them all with lust.
Spy the Ruamchitt and crowds near Soi 15 and you spied the Thermae.
Continue up Suk, the hookers start thinning out as you hit Terminal 21. Pass that Cross the street, left turn and you are at Soi Cowboy.
Then repeat. Thats a 2 klick walk, add another half a k from going up and won side streets. If you can't walk 2 klicks feuled by chang, you shouldt be here.
I do that walk in about half an hour if I am power walking.
The MRT, if not during rush hours, is the best bet if going to or near your destination. Hint, they also have a (discount for seniors over 55), just ask for senior price when you buy your chit. MRT is owned by the Thai Kingdom and is building a stadium sized terminal for the future development of the entire system.
BTS is a private company and is very expensive and very crowded, compared to the MRT. If your traveling alone the price is not bad, but if traveling with a friend that doubles the price and a Taxi is a better bet. Again it depends where you are going and the amount of people.
The cheapest and fastest way to anywhere is the MotorTaxi or Motorbike, the guys in the orange vest. Most of the p4 p ladies use these after leaving your hotel to get back to their spot or work.
RL.The guy wrote it is hard to get from cowboy to Nana by MRT. Clearly was a joke, since it does not even go there. Would be somewhat silly to catch BTS though for just one station, unless one is prepared to waste a lot of time. I suppose I can agree its expensive for just one stop. Normally more use for multi stops, like I used to go from On Nut to Asoke, at a more reasonable price, where taxi would be 80 Baht.
Thanks, have not used the seniors discount. Not sure I can do card top-up with senior discount, since could pass it on to a non senior.
Actually in rush hour, queues to get on MRT can be much worse than BTS depending on which station we are getting on. People wanting to catch MRT can be delayed more than 20 minutes waiting to just get on. Even at Sukhumvit station queues can be significant in rush hour. However I agree getting on BTS in rush hour is pointless too at Nana or Asoke, Prom Phom etc., unless one is happy to be a sardine. Not very pleasant. At least I am tall and can get some air above the crowd. Best to know the times of day when BTS becomes more viable (outside rush hours). Taxi also becomes much more viable outside rush hours. At night might get to Pat Pong from Asoke sukhumvit junction in just 10 minutes.
Getting to Nana Plaza from Asoke is quite walkable in good weather. Just 10 minutes can do it. Its just 1 km. Best to walk on the south side less obstructed. Otherwise I agree I would catch a motorcycle or taxi. Taxi is cheaper and a good option if no traffic jam.
I agree with not paying for live chats / cams, too much hassle for not much value.
4 k and VR porn is a big market. With VR porn, you can be in the middle of the action with 10 girls or whatever fit your tastes at the convenience and safety of your bedroom. They are relatively cheap for access to the entire library of a site. Just type into google best 4 k / vr porn site and you'll get the idea.Pirate downloads seem to make a huge amount available for free now. I don't need an endless library to waste my time viewing.
I have seen it, but I did not pay. VR is not really my thing. Seems to concentrate on BJs a lot, and COF or CIM from a distance, not really my thing at all. Seeing cum spurting does nothing for me. Its just messy. Also I try to abstain from wanking these days so porn becomes unimportant. I did not like blurry porn, and pixelated stuff for sure.
Any camera is sort of "in the middle of action", but I don't have to fantasize that I am actually in there. Even I look at naked girls dancing in a gogo, I do not find myself imagining I am doing something to her at the time. I just can appreciate the beauty of her body to start with. Maybe I am a weirdo in this sense.
Houston Player
11-02-19, 10:40
However I agree getting on BTS in rush hour is pointless too at Nana or Asoke, Prom Phom etc., unless one is happy to be a sardine. Not very pleasant. Riding the BTS at rush hour is obviously going to be very crowded. However you are incorrect about Asoke, it is actually one of the best places to catch the BTS because many people exit the train to transfer to the MRT and there is always space to get on the train.
Riding the BTS at rush hour is obviously going to be very crowded. However you are incorrect about Asoke, it is actually one of the best places to catch the BTS because many people exit the train to transfer to the MRT and there is always space to get on the train.Ha ha. Funny logic indeed. While many people exit BTS at Asoke, many do the reverse. A huge exit crowd from MRT go straight to the BTS.
There is not always plenty of room to get on, have queues, and perhaps may depend which direction you are going. My experience would be mainly in the outward direction. Almost always much more people want to get on than what get off in late afternoon and are queued. Crowd from the MRT and from Terminal 23 etc. Can be very large. Could be you are more correct for inward travel (towards National Stadium and Chatuchak), where taking the MRT would be an alternative for many, and might be the opposite direction to majority of travellers going home in late afternoon.
Even the queues of people trying to get a ticket, to top up card, and get in the gate can be annoyingly large at Asoke station. Everyone will have seen that. I therefore always aim to top up my card at a very quiet station and time of day.
In general, I am always finding inward travel on the BTS on On Nut (Bearing/Samrong) Line to have plenty of seats, but much more problems for outward travel (and the sardine phenomenon). I guess I always miss morning peak hour rush for inward travel.
I would say that Siam Centre station is the better station to get on for outward travel along Sukhumvit road due to interchange, but still becomes squashed like sardines within a small number of stops from there towards On Nut, in peak hours. I have had to queue at Asoke and maybe get on the 3rd train to arrive, which can still be better than queuing at some MRT stations.
So O.K. I concede that degree of queuing and jamming of people at Asoke stations probably greatly depends which direction you travel. Outward on Sukhumvit can be really bad. Carriage can get quite sticky with too many people (aircon not coping). My Mrs can't stand it at all (she is short).
BestTimeEver
11-08-19, 16:55
Hi to all!
I will arrive in BKK on November 20 and will leave on November 26.6 days, way to short, I know. Anyone interested, just PM me and we can have a drink. You may have to help me with my alibi though, if the wife calls and wants to facetime LOL I have been in BKK before and know my way. So with the very limited amount of time given, I will make the best out of it.
I love to have different experiences during a trip, so I will likely try out many different options. Looking for the Best Time Ever, so to say. I don't need to take home a girl every night, as long as I have fun. Heck, I don't even need to pop in every session (and popping becomes for sure more difficult towards the end of the trip).
This is more or less on my to do-list for the next trip. Do I miss anything? LOL this is quite a nice list. Man do I love LOS!!
- Massage parlors.
- GoGo's.
- Freelancers.
- Soapies (Ratchada).
- Line / ThaiFriendly.
- Gentleman clubs.
- Beer Garten.
- Disco clubs.
- Escorts / smooci.
- Thermae.
- And yes, even L*litas and other BJ bars.
In addition, I like to go to cinemas in Thailand, eat at food courts and walk around the huge malls.
New for me this time will be the Gogo's in Patpong (somehow I never made it there). Line / ThaiFriendly is also new to me for this purpose (very annoying that they require a phone number, will get a sim at the airport). A G club may or may not be a first, still not decided whether I want to spend the money. Plus I would like to go to some pool party. Some hotels host parties like that, for example the Westin Grande next to Terminal 21 hosts one on November 16 (not fitting my schedule). Looks interesting! Does anyone know of a pool party between November 20 and 26?
Anyhow. Can't wait to be in BKK!
Riding the BTS at rush hour is obviously going to be very crowded. However you are incorrect about Asoke, it is actually one of the best places to catch the BTS because many people exit the train to transfer to the MRT and there is always space to get on the train.I have no problem riding a crowded train crammed up against a group of college girls.
I ride the BTS and mrt or srt trains everyday. The folks that make comments about how crowded the trains are, how hard it is to get on a train at certain stations, how slow the intervals are and how much they cost, which comments you read here and on other boards come from folks who probably never rode one. They are a godsend when living in Bangkok or staying here for extended periods of time.
I ride the BTS and mrt or srt trains everyday. The folks that make comments about how crowded the trains are, how hard it is to get on a train at certain stations, how slow the intervals are and how much they cost, which comments you read here and on other boards come from folks who probably never rode one. They are a godsend when living in Bangkok or staying here for extended periods of time.Hard to understand why you love to write such arrogant or condescending comments. Experiences other than your own do exist. We can't help it if you have not experienced the busiest lines and busiest stations in peak hour. It stands to reason that not every line, travel direction, timeslot and every station is identical for the experience.
I have indeed experienced (not read about) very long queues of people at certain MRT stations (when had to wait till get on maybe the 3rd train to arrive) and they even have employees to control the queueing and deciding how many people to let on. Also several times travelled on the BTS in peak hour with people so packed in like sardines, that my Mrs who is short could barely tolerate it and does not like to use the BTS for this reason. This was the Samrong Line going outwards. As you get further out it improves since people are getting off, and less getting on. Your line to Thonburi side could be better.
Guys should be aware of what it can be like at its worst. Sure MRT and BTS can be very useful to travel faster than peak traffic will allow, and cheaper. However I don't advise it necessarily for short distances in Peak hour on certain lines, when the wait time and overcrowding can make it not worthwhile.
Here is another real experience:
22.30 or so 2 nights ago, there were several girls on Soi 4 way better looking (and doable for looks), including a Viet girl or more, than the very average (at best) bunch outside Loll-itas. I did not actually buy after talking to the girls (have to get the right vibe too). I am yet to see the Loll-itas beauties after passing 2 or 3 times recently, but I could be unlucky. You see, I don't say its impossible, just rare.
I have been very surprised at how crowded the MRT and BTS have become over the past three years. A few months ago I took the MRT from Sukhumvit and had to wait for three trains before I could board. Unfortunately I never seem to get crowded up against a group of college girls. I did get wedged between two ladyboys once but that was no fun.
For anybody staying in BKK for a few days or more you should buy the Rabbit card. It costs B100 but it is good for 5-7 years. The card is reloadable and will definitely save you time and aggravation when using the BTS. Just add money to the card at any BTS manned booth when lines are small. I've used my Rabbit card over my last two Thai trips and love it.
Changed my plans and will be going to BKK and Pattaya the weekend of the 14th. I have read the threads and reports but can't find much about Valentine's day and / or any events for that day. Is there anything special going on that day / weekend? Events? Special parties? Girls in the bars dressing up in lingerie? Anything? This will be my second visit to Thailand and wanted to hit up the places I missed and it being Valentine's I was wondering if the bars / clubs would be doing anything special as they did for Halloween.
I have been very surprised at how crowded the MRT and BTS have become over the past three years. A few months ago I took the MRT from Sukhumvit and had to wait for three trains before I could board. Unfortunately I never seem to get crowded up against a group of college girls. I did get wedged between two ladyboys once but that was no fun.
Yes its not like a Jap porn movie where college girls can get molested in public transport.
Mr Enternational
11-10-19, 05:33
I have read the threads and reports but can't find much about Valentine's day and / or any events for that day. Is there anything special going on that day / weekend? Events?There is a kissing contest at the mall and the restaurants will be busy as shit. Not only does it take hours to get your order, but they bring out one dish at a time. So you may get your kale now, 30 minutes later your steak comes out, then an hour after that you get your mashed potatoes. Then when you ask for the bill MAYBE they will bring your drink.
There is a kissing contest at the mall and the restaurants will be busy as shit. Not only does it take hours to get your order, but they bring out one dish at a time. So you may get your kale now, 30 minutes later your steak comes out, then an hour after that you get your mashed potatoes. Then when you ask for the bill MAYBE they will bring your drink.Ha ha. I have to tell Thais, sorry I am not American, I want to eat my salad with my steak and with any other sides, and if put any Mayo shit on it, I will send it back.
Has anyone had an excellent massage in Bangkok recently?
I'm looking for a strong one. Not just these lame ones with some oil that gets rubbed in.
I also enjoy a solid foot massage and a masseuse that can work by lower back and glutes.
I went to Asia herb association recently and was disappointed.
BMoreDog69
11-11-19, 01:17
This is like the old adage about opinions and a$$holes. Everyone has one, LOL!
I will often use the BTS to get from Ploenchit to go to Asok, to go to Soi Cowboy. It usually depends on the weather. The walk isn't bad, but you can get pretty nasty during the walk. It all depends on one's personal preferences (like with the ladies. Say silicone vs naturals). It all varies by time of day, weather, traffic, direction of travel, where you get on / off. Is it really worth getting lathered up about? Better to just let folks know there are various modes of travel, depending on weather, your sense of adventure (BTS / MRT, notorbike, tuktuk, taxi, walking, etc) and other factors. I always take a taxi back to my hotel because I always have a lady in tow.
One of my better choices (a lady from Crazy House with large silicone tits) made for a very entertaining cab ride.
An ex foreign sex worker was telling me how usual it was for her to meet elderly gentlemen in Pattaya who would be at it all night.
I don't think that girl was pulling my leg. What's the deal with those men? Testosterone supplementation? Intriguing possibilities. Could Thailand have remained mongering destination number one because of easy access to all kinds of steroid treatments?
An ex foreign sex worker was telling me how usual it was for her to meet elderly gentlemen in Pattaya who would be at it all night.
I don't think that girl was pulling my leg. What's the deal with those men? Testosterone supplementation? Intriguing possibilities. Could Thailand have remained mongering destination number one because of easy access to all kinds of steroid treatments?Maybe you younger guys are all pussies LOL 555.
It could be they don't know if there will be a next fuck so go hard on what's on offer.
An ex foreign sex worker was telling me how usual it was for her to meet elderly gentlemen in Pattaya who would be at it all night.
I don't think that girl was pulling my leg. What's the deal with those men? Testosterone supplementation? Intriguing possibilities. Could Thailand have remained mongering destination number one because of easy access to all kinds of steroid treatments?Wouldn't some form of ED medication I. E. Viagra etc. Do the trick?
Some of the old Gezzers I have chatted with told me they consume and they can go at it for a few hours.
Wouldn't some form of ED medication I. E. Viagra etc. Do the trick?
Some of the old Gezzers I have chatted with told me they consume and they can go at it for a few hours.Just curious. In your estimation how old were these old geezers?
Just curious. In your estimation how old were these old geezers?At least 70 years old.
One Monger was maybe into his 80's and was wheelchair bound (in a wheelchair and crusing the sois of Pattaya, what a logistical nightmare) getting pushed around by a girl.
He told me the blue pills made him so hard that a cat couldn't scratch it.
I was impressed.
Simonwagstaff
11-14-19, 14:38
Just curious. In your estimation how old were these old geezers?I am guessing about my age. 62.
Bwahahaha!
Wouldn't some form of ED medication I. E. Viagra etc. Do the trick?
Some of the old Gezzers I have chatted with told me they consume and they can go at it for a few hours.Boner pills still require a good sex-drive. They're no good if one is not horny.
I didn't mention boner pills since I took it for granted everyone was taking them.
Boner pills still require a good sex-drive. They're no good if one is not horny.
I didn't mention boner pills since I took it for granted everyone here is taking them.For those of us that are horny every day, we probably are not too worried about "sex-drive" or desire to fuck. If guys have low desire to fuck, why do they need to fix it? At least they can be happy with getting sex no where near often enough. Ha ha.
Present me with a dog of a girl with ugly body too, then sure my sex drive might be gone. Blue pill might not help much.
When my Mrs was on such good quality weed, that she wanted it every day, I was actually quite happy with that.
On the other hand, fucking too much, can definitely weaken the dick in terms of hard on duration and ease to cum. Blue pills can improve the hard on duration. I find giving up wanking for as long as possible (days or better still weeks) greatly improves my real sex experiences in terms of both dick sensitivity and duration of the hard on without the blue pills. So I highly recommend all you wanker guys out there to give it up at least a week before going to Thailand and better still try to give it up nearly completely. If you must wank, then only light and slow movements recommended (and not while in Thailand). Ha ha. My dick is far too insensitive, so I don't need a power wank to just make it worse.
When younger I usually did at least 2 girl sessions per day maybe 3 at start of Thailand visits, and sometimes 2 or 3 girls concurrently, but now have cut back greatly. The enjoyment has diminishing returns if fuck too frequently. Blue pills help a lot when doing multiple girls when have to change condoms. Dick may stay up despite the interference.
Newbie hooker girl is having abdomen pains. Goes to the doctor. He diagnoses badly inflamed uterus, and thrush yeast infection as well. Doctor prescribes some pills. Tells the girl she needs to rest up with no sex for the next month. Ha ha. How likely is that?
Poor girl has been having inconsistent business. Some days no customers. She works in a shop where the boss makes them all dress to look very demure and not sexy. Hardly surprisingly if they don't look sexy, that they get low business. She has to pay her room rent, child's school bills, sister, mother and father don't have enough money, brother is in hospital other medical expenses, another brother in prison. She has to have money coming in steadily. Police fines / bribes to pay too. However she has been well and truly fucked up by guy with a high powered cock (probably not a miniature size too), smashing into the uterus opening bump repeatedly. It bruises easily.
Meanwhile the ISG punters complain about girls who complain of pussy pain (as though its all bullshit), complain about girls going off work for weeks or months when pussy needs to recover, love to ram girl's pussies as hard as possible and put her straight out of action, despite the uterus being easy to damage and only 4 inches in. ISGers claim that all hookers should be able to stand a heavy pounding day in and day out. Maybe the girls working for 15 years have got past these problems, but the punters want extremely young, no baby, etc.
Maybe these girls would be better off being ass fucked all day only, to save the pussy. Many girls have quit MPs and started working at BJ bar so as to save their poor old pussy. Mouth can take overwork better. They then can accept full sex with selected customers only.
Meanwhile the ISG punters complain about girls who complain of pussy pain (as though its all bullshit), complain about girls going off work for weeks or months when pussy needs to recover, love to ram girl's pussies as hard as possible and put her straight out of action, despite the uterus being easy to damage and only 4 inches in. ISGers claim that all hookers should be able to stand a heavy pounding day in and day out. Maybe the girls working for 15 years have got past these problems, but the punters want extremely young, no baby, etc.It was exactly my point of view in a recent discussion when a member said he doesn't care what the girl feels (about pain, not about feelings) and he was saying it's all BS when the girls says she cannot handle it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a guy that went there and fucked her hard after reading your recent posts on that girl.
That's exactly why I'm more reluctant to give specific details about some of the girls I met.
Maybe these girls would be better off being ass fucked all day only, to save the pussy. Many girls have quit MPs and started working at BJ bar so as to save their poor old pussy. Mouth can take overwork better. They then can accept full sex with selected customers only.If she gets assfucked hard and she's not been prepared for it, she's going to have a big discomfort for a long time also.
I knew a girl that would always start crying each time I talked about taking her ass.
She tried it once with a guy many years before but that bastard did it badly and she never recovered from that first attempt.
It was exactly my point of view in a recent discussion when a member said he doesn't care what the girl feels (about pain, not about feelings) and he was saying it's all BS when the girls says she cannot handle it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a guy that went there and fucked her hard after reading your recent posts on that girl.
That's exactly why I'm more reluctant to give specific details about some of the girls I met.
Yes its hard to know whether to give the girl publicity because she needs the work, or if some assholes will go to try to put her out of action, straight off. "Suffer baby" is part of their fantasy, and I see Japanese porn is heavily into portraying the girl as being in pain and hurt by the Nasty fuckers.
We can't easily know what is best. I may have slightly larger than average, and realise can be a problem for some girls to do extended fuck. Some regular girls (even Farang girls) quit me after several sessions, saying I just took too long to cum, and too much wear and tear. I have been blamed for their injuries at times, despite being a gentle fucker. I do try to start very gradually with girls to give them time to stretch, and am never a forceful fucker at all.
On other hand I have one regular girl who can take a lot of heavy cock and very extended sessions. I am not a high powered fuck by her standards at all. She claims to like it very deep. She claims she has fucked nearly all night on occasions. I don't have that stamina or desire level any more.
Empathy is about when we try to understand the other person's view and difficulties as we interact with them. Some of us have little empathy with certain other ISGers (grossly incompatible viewpoints), and some ISGers have zero empathy with the girls they are screwing most likely.
Regular pussy damage could lead to Uterus cancers.
Guys generally have some clues about what shapes for a girl's body make her attractive, but maybe much less clue about what faces are attractive. One theory sometimes heard is that a symmetrical face is attractive. That is far too simplistic. There is little doubt the personal tastes vary.
I attach a face shape chart. Turns out I am attracted to a certain shape which is probably the narrow jaw, pointy chin shown in faces 5 and 6 in the diagram, being the triangle and the heart shape. Square, rectangle and round faces are not for me, maybe the oval or egg shaped is a pass. Then there is a factor of how broad is the face at eye level. I prefer less broad or slim face. I prefer nose on the small side (no eagle noses), lips can be bigger than average.
I don't know if many guys even know what face shape they like, or maybe like them all.
I include some pics of girls that appeal to me for face and body. You will probably see the generally narrow jaw. Rebecca Romjyn is beautiful but not quite so narrow jaw. 7 of 9 Jeri Ryan has even broader jaw, so although very good looking, is not my perfect spec. You may notice that skin tone (colour) is not important to me, some darker. I can still go for Rebecca with even the dark blue colour of Mystique. Her shape remains what I am attracted to, natural human shape (with some bumpy corregations added). The only bit really disturbing about her look is the yellow eyes for me with irises too small.
Porn girl pair are Anissa Kate and Breanne Benson. Both are attractive to me even I lean towards skinny, exotic looks are fine for me with Anissa's big lips. Her thighs are only just a pass leaving only small gap. Some won't like her brown skin but fine for me.
Levels of surgeries looks low. Maybe Madalina has implants? They look suspicious.
I like Thai girls based on similar principals. Originally I did not know what made a face attractive to me but I start to learn now. My Mrs. is from Issan but her face meets my general spec with small nose not broad at all slightly upturned at the tip (no nose job so no tall bridge). Pointy narrow jaw like the triangle face shape. Skin is darker than myself. I like that. I once was keen on a Thai girl but she had a nose job, and I found it quite disturbing how it did not look like a normal shape. Subtle differences can have an effect.
I will not be surprised to learn that some guys do not like a pointy jaw at all, and may go for square faced or round faced girls or oblong shaped faces. So when we say a girl is attractive, it can be rather meaningless. Phoebe Cates as example has wrong face shape for me to find her specially attractive, where others do. I never picked Cristy Canyon as attractive (just big tits). The new Mystique, Jennifer Lawrence is not my spec at all. So I don't find her hot really. Perhaps no one will ever really notice the girl's face shape, so the chart will be quite useless.
What is attractive, comes down to personal preference in a very big way. Some won't like the skinny girl pic SolaZola. Some won't like Anissa Kate, as too dark skin and big lips.
Found an awesome gem thai girl in Europe. Best Thai I ever had for sure. Makes me terribly horny and cum 2-3 times. She is willing to meet me in BKK but I do not know when I can get there. I want to keep her interested other than just chatting, so I want to send her some money until I get my ass over there to play rabbits with her.
My simple question is how on earth can I send untraceable funds to her? Is there a way I can buy something. Like an ITunes Card. And give her a code so that she can pick it up? My problem is I don't want her to be able to see.
My name as she gets the funds / card / benefit.
Any hints on how to send her some money / stuff? Keeping anonymity.
Found an awesome gem thai girl in Europe. Best Thai I ever had for sure. Makes me terribly horny and cum 2-3 times. She is willing to meet me in BKK but I do not know when I can get there. I want to keep her interested other than just chatting, so I want to send her some money until I get my ass over there to play rabbits with her.
My simple question is how on earth can I send untraceable funds to her? Is there a way I can buy something. Like an ITunes Card. And give her a code so that she can pick it up? My problem is I don't want her to be able to see.
My name as she gets the funds / card / benefit.
Any hints on how to send her some money / stuff? Keeping anonymity.Why? If you have found one "awesome gem" Thai girl in Europe how many do you think you will find in BKK? Save your money for your airfare and you don't find her I am sure there will 100 to replace her.
I want to keep her interested other than just chatting, so I want to send her some money until I get my ass over there to play rabbits with her.
My simple question is how on earth can I send untraceable funds to her? Is there a way I can buy something. Like an ITunes Card. And give her a code so that she can pick it up? My problem is I don't want her to be able to see.
You story does not seem to make much sense. Was she just on holiday in Europe? Anyway she should have her own money if she could holiday in Europe. If she lives in Europe, then I don't see the point in it all anyway.
What is wrong with just chatting? Or did she already ask for money?
If you transfer money into her Bank Account in Thailand, your bank will know but she won't know your name. I transfer into my own Thai Bank account. It does not show my name. Perhaps there are other ways. Western Union however expects receiver to know who sent it and they are a rip off anyway.
Please bear in mind that Thai girls can have several "boyfriends" on a string all sending her money. Acquiring regular recipients of money is not a good plan. She could in turn pass the money on to her druggie boyfriend or brother, or card playing gambling mother, or waste it herself even.
I met an awesome Thai girl in Germany many years ago. She was a hooker part time. She was awesome because she started to give me discount for sex and eventually for free (not counting money spent in other ways). She lived normally with a Bikie guy (dangerous), in a weird relationship. Eventually met her mother and her son, ha ha. I did not like the Mother. In the end I was not sufficiently useful to her, so she found a richer guy to look after her, and moved to another country (not Thailand).
So its much better if she wants you for the sex and relationship warmth than if she wants you for the money.
MakeItOrBreak
11-28-19, 18:43
Found an awesome gem thai girl in Europe. Best Thai I ever had for sure. Makes me terribly horny and cum 2-3 times. She is willing to meet me in BKK but I do not know when I can get there. I want to keep her interested other than just chatting, so I want to send her some money until I get my ass over there to play rabbits with her.
My simple question is how on earth can I send untraceable funds to her? Is there a way I can buy something. Like an ITunes Card. And give her a code so that she can pick it up? My problem is I don't want her to be able to see.
My name as she gets the funds / card / benefit.
Any hints on how to send her some money / stuff? Keeping anonymity.Bitcoin was like built for this.
I read that magic mushrooms are openly sold at some bars in Thailand. They are mixed into smoothies. Is there any reason to worry about the legalities?
I read that magic mushrooms are openly sold at some bars in Thailand. They are mixed into smoothies. Is there any reason to worry about the legalities?Outside maybe in some beach areas, forget it. It doesn't happen and if it does, avoid it. You don't want to mess with any drugs in Thailand, and don't think that I'm some fuddy-duddy because I smoke weed here regularly. However, I have a medical prescription for the purple pee problem, plus I know what I am doing. You, by asking that question, clearly don't.
If you want to have a stoner party, go to Laos or Cambodia.
I read that magic mushrooms are openly sold at some bars in Thailand. They are mixed into smoothies. Is there any reason to worry about the legalities?The possible side effects to me sound like to much to outweigh the benefits which seem limited. Not sure why anyone really wants them.
Bitcoin was like built for this.Does anyone have experiences with using Bitcoin as a fast money transfer mechanism, and something to share re advantages and disadvantages? Should we be considering it. I have to make regular money transfers.
Crocodilexp
12-02-19, 03:23
Found an awesome gem thai girl in Europe. Best Thai I ever had for sure. Makes me terribly horny and cum 2-3 times. She is willing to meet me in BKK but I do not know when I can get there. I want to keep her interested other than just chatting, so I want to send her some money until I get my ass over there to play rabbits with her.
My simple question is how on earth can I send untraceable funds to her? Is there a way I can buy something. Like an ITunes Card. And give her a code so that she can pick it up? My problem is I don't want her to be able to see.
My name as she gets the funds / card / benefit.
Any hints on how to send her some money / stuff? Keeping anonymity.What's the point of sending money anonymously? All you need to do is not lose her contact (LINE / phone / FB / whatever) until you come back, and perhaps exchange an occasional message to make sure she doesn't go off the grid or change contact without informing you. If she's still on the game, she'll fit you in for the regular fee (or more eagerly for a higher fee). If she isn't, she won't see you anyway. It makes about zero difference whether you sent money in the past or not. She won't feel obligated at all because you sent her some money a few months ago, in fact, a far better strategy is to save up to offer her a larger sum when you actually meet (if necessary).
If you want to build a semi-relationship of some kind, then sending money maybe makes sense (though you still aren't getting much value for it), but anonymity does not make sense, as she'll find out who you are eventually anyway.
Member #4643
12-02-19, 04:05
Outside maybe in some beach areas, forget it. It doesn't happen and if it does, avoid it. You don't want to mess with any drugs in Thailand, and don't think that I'm some fuddy-duddy because I smoke weed here regularly. However, I have a medical prescription for the purple pee problem, plus I know what I am doing. You, by asking that question, clearly don't.
If you want to have a stoner party, go to Laos or Cambodia.I have a personal experience with drugs in Thailand. It was relatively benign. The police stopped my cab and searched us at the curb. I cooperated, of course. Yet the cops pushed me around like I was a criminal and one guy practically broke my finger grabbing my wallet out of my hand to search the various compartments. In the USA, I would have filed a complaint on the rough way I was treated.
FYI: I hardly look like a stoner (although my buddy is actually a 66 year old stoner). I was dressed in a suit and I have greying hair. I do look like a foreigner, however. If they had caught us with a few grams of weed, I m certain it would have been a very unpleasant experience.
Nyezhov, how does one get a medical marijuana prescription?
Franciscass
12-02-19, 04:17
I read that magic mushrooms are openly sold at some bars in Thailand. They are mixed into smoothies. Is there any reason to worry about the legalities?Only those who have been there will know what they are talking. Ignore the uninitiated. Psilocybin more commonly known as magic mushrooms is a beautiful natural hallucinogenic high more akin to mescaline than the much more intense synthetic Lysergic acid diethylamide known as LSD. I have no idea what's in those smoothies or whether they are legal or not. If illegal stay away from them, and everything else you may come across that's illegal. The high is not worth the rish in a country like Thailand even if is it at the full moon party. But if somehow it's OK I. E. Not a banned substance then check what's in the drink. If its locally collected mushrooms made into a drink let me know where to meet for a coconut flavoured sunset.
Franciscass
12-02-19, 04:27
Found an awesome gem thai girl in Europe. Best Thai I ever had for sure. Makes me terribly horny and cum 2-3 times. She is willing to meet me in BKK but I do not know when I can get there. I want to keep her interested other than just chatting, so I want to send her some money until I get my ass over there to play rabbits with her.
My simple question is how on earth can I send untraceable funds to her? Is there a way I can buy something. Like an ITunes Card. And give her a code so that she can pick it up? My problem is I don't want her to be able to see.
My name as she gets the funds / card / benefit.
Any hints on how to send her some money / stuff? Keeping anonymity.Sending money doesn't guarantee she will be waiting for you. Depends on whether she has multiple sponsors whether, whether she is staying faithful and genuinely "I love only you" Nowadays in a world where money laundering rules are so pervasive it's not easy to hide the source of transfers. Good advice from another member was save it up tell her so and she will be more than eager to meet and greet when you eventually get here.
I have a personal experience with drugs in Thailand. It was relatively benign. The police stopped my cab and searched us at the curb. I cooperated, of course. Yet the cops pushed me around like I was a criminal and one guy practically broke my finger grabbing my wallet out of my hand to search the various compartments. In the USA, I would have filed a complaint on the rough way I was treated.
FYI: I hardly look like a stoner (although my buddy is actually a 66 year old stoner). I was dressed in a suit and I have greying hair. I do look like a foreigner, however. If they had caught us with a few grams of weed, I m certain it would have been a very unpleasant experience.
Nyezhov, how does one get a medical marijuana prescription?You should have filed a complaint. The cops take complaints of older, non bummy looking Americans seriously. Never carry weed with you though.
If you want a scrip, there are various Thai Medicine medical clinics that will help you, just google. You should have insomnia and arthritis.
By the way, the most recent "checkpoints" I have seen in operation at Thong Lo, Ekkamai and Phra Khnaong have ignored cabs.
What's the point of sending money anonymously? I think what he means is that he will tell her he sent the money but she would not know his full real name. We all try to keep our ISG identity secret, since would not be good for employers and family to know. Like wise he is embarrassed about sending money to a girl.
I once, many years ago, had a crazy girl I had taken once to a disco, ring to my place of employment. Was not good. Would have been better if he knew much less about me.
I see that on free webcams like Chaturbate (as example), once enough tokens have been paid by other wanting to actually spend, the girls will typically perform a "squirt". That obviously have to drink a lot of water continually in order to top up. Some of the webcam girls (<5% I guess) are extremely pretty and with great bodies, such that I can even find many of the tit jobs to be forgivable or acceptable. Very few have noticeable nose jobs which sets them apart from Thai pornstars. Many of the best webcam stars have been recorded and their sessions show up as videos on Pornhub as well, so one does not even have to get online at the right time. If a girl is pretty enough, I can enjoy watching her masturabate, but it is immediately boring if she is not good looking enough for face, body and pussy. Webcams have fuck sessions too, but these are typically not worth watching. Porn videos do that much better, with fresher porn stars.
So Squirts have been around in porn videos for some time, but apparently are of less interest to the older age group. Perhaps we are all more sceptical. Originally it was mainly just peeing videos, but the Squirting idea has become more fashionable.
So what is a squirt. It seems that the female has Skenes glands above the vagina and holes for them close to the pee hole, either side. I try to use simple language here. We all know the pee hole is under the clit but above the vagina. Strangely I have heard that some women have never examined themselves closely and have little idea how they are constructed. Skenes glands can be stimulated by pressure on the G spot which should be directly below these glands, and produce a lubricating fluid, probably thicker than water. Should the fluid be released, it is a small amount, and no where near enough to make even a small fountain like in squirt videos. Apparently the Skenes glands vary in size, and can be so small in some women as difficult to find them (if dissected). Most of us may have experienced an increase in wetness when a girl cums or is about to. The Skenes glands could be contributing. G spot stimulation may help cause the release.
I have never experienced a girl squirt so it is not common. So clearly that seen in porn and videos, is the peeing or loosing control of her bladder, perhaps orgasm causes some women to lose control or may cause the pee to be ejected more forcefully than usual. So pee could mixed with Skenes gland juice (just possibly), indeed scientists testing squirt fluid did find that urine was contained in there and possibly some other fluids.
I have experienced a Thai girl in the past who always had to run to pee after each orgasm, so maybe she was a potential squirter but able to hold it for just a very short time after cum. Even my Mrs reports an almost uncontrollable urge to pee after orgasm on occasions, and rushes off.
Now that squirting is seem as normal after almost every webcam masturbation sequence, I wonder if the girls really need to cum to squirt pee, or just do it to make the show, as though it was proof they had an actual cum.
So still a little bit baffled about why squirting a fountain has become so popular, where presumably in former times, girls would have been very embarrassed by it. Far from being kinky, it looks like it may move into mainstream mongering in the future, possibly.
Are any of the monger venues looking to provide a Squirting service. Eden perhaps? Or just the kinky shops Demonia etc. , I was aware of reports of girls squirting on fairly rare occasions. Watching a pretty girl squirt or pee does not turn me off really unless has a bad smell, presumably the smell would be very weak if she drank lots of water and did not eat asparagus ha ha. Are there any famous squirters. I want to go see for curiosity at least.
Are guys now interested to ask for not only girls allowing anal, but those that can squirt? Can all girls simulate a squirt well, I. E. Just pee but no cum? Or will it come out at first too slowly to be convincing, rather than like turning on a fountain.
Have I got the definition of squirt right? Seems to me to be uncontrolled explosive gush of urine due to or accompanying orgasm, particularly g-spot orgasm. I am fairly sure that those claiming a squirt does not contain pee, are deluding themselves, unless talking about a slow dibble of lubricating fluid. There is no where in the girl's anatomy other than the bladder big enough to provide that much liquid at that level of force.
Mr Enternational
12-05-19, 16:02
So Squirts have been around in porn videos for some time, but apparently are of less interest to the older age group. Perhaps we are all more sceptical. Originally it was mainly just peeing videos, but the Squirting idea has become more fashionable.
I have never experienced a girl squirt so it is not common. So clearly that seen in porn and videos, is the peeing or loosing control of her bladder, perhaps orgasm causes some women to lose control or may cause the pee to be ejected more forcefully than usual. So pee could mixed with Skenes gland juice (just possibly), indeed scientists testing squirt fluid did find that urine was contained in there and possibly some other fluids.
So still a little bit baffled about why squirting a fountain has become so popular, where presumably in former times, girls would have been very embarrassed by it.
Have I got the definition of squirt right? Seems to me to be uncontrolled explosive gush of urine due to or accompanying orgasm, particularly g-spot orgasm. I am fairly sure that those claiming a squirt does not contain pee, are deluding themselves, unless talking about a slow dibble of lubricating fluid. There is no where in the girl's anatomy other than the bladder big enough to provide that much liquid at that level of force.It definitely is not urine although it may contain traces of it. Urine is generally yellow. I have never seen a chick squirt and it came out yellow. It is a colorless, slightly cloudy liquid. I have never tasted pee, but I have tasted a chick's squirt. It has a burnt rubber taste to it.
I do not think it is possible for a chick to urinate when a dick is inside of her. I have had chicks squirt in various positions with my dick inside of them. Also, one can pee on demand. I have never seen a chick squirt on demand the same as one can pee. When one pees it comes out as a steady stream voluntarily. When a chick squirts it gushes out at intervals with contractions that seem to be involuntary. So even the action of squirting itself is different from the action of urinating.
Also, some chicks are able to squirt multiple times in a row. I just went to pee 10 minutes ago. If I went back to the bathroom right now, I could not make myself pee again. And if I could, it would not come out to amount to any significant quantity as when a chick squirts multiple times.
I have not seen any embarrassment come from a chick doing the actual act of squirting. I think any embarrassment comes from the fact that she fucked up the sheets.
When my girlfriend from Peru would come to visit me in the States, I would always fuck her in the bathroom because I didn't want my bed wet. Whenever we fucked in hotels in Peru, we would always do it on the bottom of the bed so as not to have the part where we would sleep wet. I once rented a room in another board member's condo in Peru. Before me and my girlfriend fucked, I cut open big black garbage bags to spread on top of the bed so we would not fuck his place up. If you think my ex-girlfriend, who is a manager at a major international accounting firm, is going around peeing in beds on purpose, well I seriously doubt it.
P. S. How often do you see a midget? Probably every blue moon. But somehow they were able to gather up 124 of them for a movie called Wizard of Oz. Very plausible to not encounter something in everyday life, but be able to see tons of it through media.
I would say they are extremely rare. After well over 1000 women on 6 continents here is my breakdown:
N. America: USA - 5 non-pros (Mexican in Georgia, Mexican in California, Black in Virginia, Black in California, White in Alabama).
S. America: Peru - 1 non-pro, Colombia - 1 pro (at Conejitos in Medellin. Fucked her in January).
Europe: 0.
Africa: 0.
Australia: 0.
Asia: Thailand - 1 non-pro, 1 pro.
I know of 2 other pro chicks (1 Thailand (friend who Sushilover fucked the other day. See his report in the Pattaya thread), 1 Brazil (Ingrid who worked at Luomo in Rio)) but have never fucked them.
I read that magic mushrooms are openly sold at some bars in Thailand. They are mixed into smoothies. Is there any reason to worry about the legalities?A mushroom party ("half moon") was openly scheduled and advertised on Ko Lanta this week when I left. Leaflets were being handed out.
Easy to get them also on Ko Tao and Ko Chang unless it has been weeks without rain (they get them from the wild). Not in "smoothies" but in shakes. Called happy shakes or mushroom shakes. Drink at the bar then taxi straight to hotel (no motorbiking!). Definitely not legal. Better carry 25 k to bribe one's way out if needed (and if you can).
It definitely is not urine although it may contain traces of it. Urine is generally yellow. I have never seen a chick squirt and it came out yellow. It is a colorless, slightly cloudy liquid. I have never tasted pee, but I have tasted a chick's squirt. It has a burnt rubber taste to it.
I do not think it is possible for a chick to urinate when a dick is inside of her. I have had chicks squirt in various positions with my dick inside of them. Also, one can pee on demand. I have never seen a chick squirt on demand the same as one can pee. When one pees it comes out as a steady stream voluntarily. When a chick squirts it gushes out at intervals with contractions that seem to be involuntary. So even the action of squirting itself is different from the action of urinating.
Also, some chicks are able to squirt multiple times in a row. I just went to pee 10 minutes ago. If I went back to the bathroom right now, I could not make myself pee again. And if I could, it would not come out to amount to any significant quantity as when a chick squirts multiple times.
I have not seen any embarrassment come from a chick doing the actual act of squirting. I think any embarrassment comes from the fact that she fucked up the sheets.
When my girlfriend from Peru would come to visit me in the States, I would always fuck her in the bathroom because I didn't want my bed wet. Whenever we fucked in hotels in Peru, we would always do it on the bottom of the bed so as not to have the part where we would sleep wet. I once rented a room in another board member's condo in Peru. Before me and my girlfriend fucked, I cut open big black garbage bags to spread on top of the bed so we would not fuck his place up. If you think my ex-girlfriend, who is a manager at a major international accounting firm, is going around peeing in beds on purpose, well I seriously doubt it.
P. S. How often do you see a midget? Probably every blue moon. But somehow they were able to gather up 124 of them for a movie called Wizard of Oz. Very plausible to not encounter something in everyday life, but be able to see tons of it through media.All very interesting, so where does the squirt fluid get stored? Are you agreeing with Skenes glands that could vary considerably in size depending on the girl, or somewhere else? Scientists don't seem to have a clear explanation but believe Skenes glands would not hold enough liquid to squirt significant distances and significant quantities. Of course could be that all or most the squirts I am seeing in porn are fake and only peeing, so I might get the wrong impression. Do you have any videos of what might be a real one.
I do think certain types of stimulation are able to make girls pee, and have experience of that. So not quite a pee on demand. Girls that drink large amounts of water will change their pee colour to clear or non yellow. I think anyone can pee if bladder contains enough liquid, perhaps guys cannot just before orgasm, but not long after is possible. I doubt orgasm is stopping a pee, unless female workings are very much the same as male.
Still sceptical, but if I can see good evidence and explanation I can admit this is an area I know so little about, for certain.
Re midgets/dwarves, (Khon Khae(sounds short abrupt) a well known word in Thai), these are seen often in Thai TV entertainment. I even saw a female midget dancing nude in 5 Star bar (I believe that one). Thinking of any adult of 135cm or less I guess however official limit was under 147 cm (hell that is far too common). So midgets are a hell of a lot more common than squirts, in my experience. Yes rare thing can exist but it is hard to be expert on them. I had an ex GF that was only 150 cm. Ha ha. Nearly a midget but proportional and sexy (Filipinas tend to be very short at times)
Mr Enternational
12-07-19, 00:15
All very interesting, so where does the squirt fluid get stored? Are you agreeing with Skenes glands that could vary considerably in size depending on the girl, or somewhere else? Scientists don't seem to have a clear explanation but believe Skenes glands would not hold enough liquid to squirt significant distances and significant quantities.No idea. But like you said, from the reading I have done on it doctors and scientists don't even understand what is going on with it. None of the videos that I have watched seemed to be anyone faking it by peeing. Look at a video of a chick peeing next to one you believe is fake squirting.
If you look at 4:15 in this video you can see what it looks like when a chick pees. Like I said before, it is just a stream. https://www.xvideos.com/video16454309/masturbating_les_pee_soak
Compare it to these videos where the chicks are squirting. https://www.xvideos.com/video45643889/she_squirted_20_times_on_this_night_when_i_fucked_her_hard and https://www.xvideos.com/video39558833/hasta_llegar_al_orgasmo
No idea. But like you said, from the reading I have done on it doctors and scientists don't even understand what is going on with it.I did a web search and came up with scientific explanations of careful tests that all amount to roughly the same thing:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25545022
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26772-female-ejaculation-comes-in-two-forms-scientists-find/
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323953.php#frequency.
Essentially they all agree that while Skenes glands can produce a small amount of milky fluid, the female bladder refills with liquid during sexual arousal (and it may not be yellow), and during orgasm this liquid is expelled sometimes quite forcefully and out of control. A female could expel both at the same time and may mix.
In the end there are no other theories that really make sense. When I watch a video squirt and a peeing video the differences are not that significant, merely that orgasm may cause a greater initial gush. Some squirts had a lot less liquid as bladder did not have time to fill that much. Yes we could theorise that all the video squirts are fake and not a fair comparison. However I want to see a "real" one that is very different.
The colour of pee varies a lot, depending on time since last pee, food, eaten, what was drunk recently, level of impurities to be discharged, etc. It can be yellow, e.g. first thing in the morning. However if peeing regularly and consuming a lot of water and not much else, it can go quite clear coloured. Peeing videos show peeing in someone's mouth so presumably it does not taste too bad once becomes clear coloured. I haven't performed taste tests, however we all have some clue by the smell of pee, which can be really bad or can be not noticable.
Almost all girls on Webcam sites can squirt, where normal life saw so little of it. So clearly the webcam girls have learned it. They learned to allow the orgasm to disable their bladder control, or may fake it and just pee on camera. I have met girls who immediately after orgasm always had to go pee. If she had 4 orgasms, she had to rush (run) to toilet after each one. So clearly orgasm can produce an urge to pee difficult to control for some girls, the squirters.
I can see that a real female ejaculation of milky fluid from Skenes glands only (nothing from bladder) would not amount to a "squirt" as such (even if large variation in volume from one girl to another), being too little in volume. We have all seen how wet a girl can become during orgasm without any male cum.
Some years ago I was in this brothel in the southern Caribbean banging a Trinidadian chick. After I came she began to masturbate and I was enjoying the show. After a few minutes she told me to watch out and she began to squirt profusely. When I used to see it in porn flicks I thought it might have been urine but that experience confirmed that it is not. It has a different viscosity from urine being slightly thicker and whitish with a certain amount of translucence; it also has a distinct smell which I have occasionally detected during sex with certain women.
Some years ago I was in this brothel in the southern Caribbean banging a Trinidadian chick. After I came she began to masturbate and I was enjoying the show. After a few minutes she told me to watch out and she began to squirt profusely. When I used to see it in porn flicks I thought it might have been urine but that experience confirmed that it is not. It has a different viscosity from urine being slightly thicker and whitish with a certain amount of translucence; it also has a distinct smell which I have occasionally detected during sex with certain women.Scientific research confirms that 'profuse' squirting like that is indeed urine.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26772-female-ejaculation-comes-in-two-forms-scientists-find/#.VLAkn2SR82s
Some years ago I was in this brothel in the southern Caribbean banging a Trinidadian chick. After I came she began to masturbate and I was enjoying the show. After a few minutes she told me to watch out and she began to squirt profusely. When I used to see it in porn flicks I thought it might have been urine but that experience confirmed that it is not. It has a different viscosity from urine being slightly thicker and whitish with a certain amount of translucence; it also has a distinct smell which I have occasionally detected during sex with certain women.You guys that have seen it, can believe it more easily.
You can't really tell exactly without scientific tests. Was bladder full before, was it empty after, this the proof that bladder was emptied. Yes it could be milky by mixing with Skenes gland fluids which should be thicker. The fluid needs to be scientifically tested to see levels of Urea, etc. Was it a fountain or a dribble or somewhere in between?
Are 95+% of squirts being tested actually fake squirts. Are there real squirts that are different? I need to see the video of the squirt purporting to not contain any pee. The volume cannot be that large if liquid did not come partially from the bladder, or does a woman have somewhere to hold cum fluid equivalent in size possibly to male's store of semen? A mix of liquids is feasible, just?
Is this like the search for the Loch Ness Monster or the Yeti (Big Foot)?
Looks like we are able to concede that porn videos and chat rooms contain mostly peeing being labelled a Squirt, but does a different Squirt exist very rarely? Its very hard to be sure without great evidence to support a view.
Guys cum can vary from a high powered squirt to a dribble, so can women have something similar also with variation in force, but much less and rarer?
Scientific research confirms that 'profuse' squirting like that is indeed urine.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26772-female-ejaculation-comes-in-two-forms-scientists-find/#.VLAkn2SR82sWow, I feel privileged to be able to actually disprove scientific findings. On the other hand perhaps I should not; how many scientists have had the actual experience of being with a live woman while she ejaculates as opposed to theoretical observations?
...........Guys cum can vary from a high powered squirt to a dribble....Scientists would probably say that Peter North was peeing.
Wow, I feel privileged to be able to actually disprove scientific findings. On the other hand perhaps I should not; how many scientists have had the actual experience of being with a live woman while she ejaculates as opposed to theoretical observations?Well, I just read the article. Apparently they did have women to conduct experiments on. It would have been interesting if they had the girl I sessioned with.
Bitcoin was like built for this.Thought of that. Prolly not her thing.
Mr Enternational
12-11-19, 20:59
I am just laughing about mfs always saying to put something on a cloud:
"The Rockmart man was investigated after officials with Facebook and Dropbox notified the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children about phild corn stored on his accounts, authorities said. ".
https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/fulton-elementary-school-aide-sentenced-prison-for-child-porn/ttGETgSDwFfpBOwYcHwg4K/
Bitcoin was like built for this.Bit Coin is probably destined to wipe out money exchange businesses in the future, being immediate transactions. However does one incur a buy and sell bitcoin overhead as percentage or fee, high enough to make it unviable at this time, or is it already very practical for transfer money to Thailand. Would use of bitcoin really wipe out all delays, or does buy and sell bitcoin cause some delay?
Western Union is already instant transfer to Thailand, but of course they typically have exorbitant fees and bad exchange rates, so only for use in an emergency. I do know a shop with greatly reduced fees for sending to Thailand.
I currently use Transferwise, and have their multi-currency Debit MasterCard. I could use it for cash withdraw from an ATM in Thailand, but it still has a percentage charge for ATM Cash even if is already converted to Thai Baht money. Transfer to a Thai Bank Account still takes a day or so.
So always looking for a fast option with low overheads. Could that be Bitcoin?
Bit Coin is probably destined to wipe out money exchange businesses in the future, being immediate transactions. However does one incur a buy and sell bitcoin overhead as percentage or fee, high enough to make it unviable at this time, or is it already very practical for transfer money to Thailand. Would use of bitcoin really wipe out all delays, or does buy and sell bitcoin cause some delay?
Western Union is already instant transfer to Thailand, but of course they typically have exorbitant fees and bad exchange rates, so only for use in an emergency. I do know a shop with greatly reduced fees for sending to Thailand.
I currently use Transferwise, and have their multi-currency Debit MasterCard. I could use it for cash withdraw from an ATM in Thailand, but it still has a percentage charge for ATM Cash even if is already converted to Thai Baht money. Transfer to a Thai Bank Account still takes a day or so.
So always looking for a fast option with low overheads. Could that be Bitcoin?Bangkok Bank finally stopped allowing me to make ACH transfers from my Bank of America account this month. These are Foreign Transfers I make every month to qualify for my retirement visa. Bangkok Bank told me I need to set up an IACH method of making transfers now and that Bank of America surely had a way to choose that method on my mobile app or by calling Bank of America to set it up. Naturally, neither of those things were true. The Bank of America rep had no idea what an "IACH" method for making transfers was but I could make costly international wire transfers through them if I wanted. I am still waiting for my transfer from yesterday to arrive in Thailand to see what the total cost of that method with BofA really is.
But I did try a small transfer using TransferWise a few days ago. It was easy and relatively fast at 3 days to receive the money in my Thai account. However, it cost me a whopping $20 USD to transfer $100 USD! I suppose it is much more cost effective to transfer larger sums, but this first one was only a test.
But even more worrying about continuing to use TransferWise is when the money arrives in my Thai account it is not identified as a "Foreign Transfer", which as far as I know is an absolute necessity in order for it to work as my monthly retirement visa income. It is identified as a "Transfer From Another Bank." As I said, from what I've heard and read, that will not fly with Thai Immigration as proof for the monthly income option for a retirement visa. As far as they know you are transfering from one Thai bank to another and not bringing in fresh money from outside of Thailand. It has to show up on your statement or in your updated passbook as a "Foreign Transfer."
But I did try a small transfer using TransferWise a few days ago. It was easy and relatively fast at 3 days to receive the money in my Thai account. However, it cost me a whopping $20 USD to transfer $100 USD! I suppose it is much more cost effective to transfer larger sums, but this first one was only a test.I use CurrencyFair to transfer money from my Singapore account to Australia. It costs EUR 4 per transaction but my Singapore bank slugs me pretty heavily, about US $56 per tranaction. I do get a much better exchange rate though, so this more thn offsets the fees. I sometimes transfer money to a friend in Indonesia but I do that from my UK acoount. Usually the money arrives the next day but I lose a bit in the exchange rate. For some reason it exchnages from GBP to EURO then to INR. The fee is only GBP 4. I suppose it doesn't matter what you use, you either pay high fees or get a bad exchange rate.
I have a multiple currency debit card with my Singapore bank, so I don't pay fees with ATM withdrawals. I'm in China and there are no fees from the local banks when using their ATM, so this works out well.
I use CurrencyFair to transfer money from my Singapore account to Australia. It costs EUR 4 per transaction but my Singapore bank slugs me pretty heavily, about US $56 per tranaction.
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Your post prompts me to clarify my earlier post about TransferWise. Actually, TransferWise was not all that expensive for me to make that first test transfer. They only charged me $3.23 USD. But, same as in your case, it was my Bank of America account that hit me with a $20.04 USD charge. I assume it would be more cost effective to transfer larger amounts, probably can get it closer to 1.5% or 2% overall cost to get get the money into my Thai bank account.
Still, the deal breaker for me with TransferWise is it does not show up on my Thai bank statement as a "Foreign Transfer", which is necessary in order to convince a Thai Immigration officer that those monthly transfers did indred come from outside of Thailand.
But I did try a small transfer using TransferWise a few days ago. It was easy and relatively fast at 3 days to receive the money in my Thai account. However, it cost me a whopping $20 USD to transfer $100 USD! I suppose it is much more cost effective to transfer larger sums, but this first one was only a test.
But even more worrying about continuing to use TransferWise is when the money arrives in my Thai account it is not identified as a "Foreign Transfer", which as far as I know is an absolute necessity in order for it to work as my monthly retirement visa income. It is identified as a "Transfer From Another Bank." As I said, from what I've heard and read, that will not fly with Thai Immigration as proof for the monthly income option for a retirement visa. As far as they know you are transfering from one Thai bank to another and not bringing in fresh money from outside of Thailand. It has to show up on your statement or in your updated passbook as a "Foreign Transfer."Transferwise never cost me that much to make a transfer, so far lowest overheads I found with a reasonable time frame although time to transfer is a little inconsistent sometimes. I have to transfer firstly to my Transferwise account, no charges at my bank. Total Transferwise fee is quite small. So can't understand what you did, causing a BofA charge. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
My transfers are much larger than 100 dollars of course. One has to take into account total fees plus exchange rate, to determine the real overhead. could cost me $20 overhead but for a transfer of 2000 to 300 dollars, makes the overhead decline towards 1%. If I pull money from OS account at ATM, this costs me too much overhead typically (Transferwise Card to do this would have 2% overhead which is a bit too high although first 350 per month is free - O.K. for emergencies), but I am looking for ways to improve that 2% overhead. Not so easy when not in Bangkok, as fee less ATM use is typically available only on certain ATM types.
Re not showing up as a foreign transfer, I can understand that, as just shows as internet transfer from another bank.
I use CurrencyFair to transfer money from my Singapore account to Australia. It costs EUR 4 per transaction but my Singapore bank slugs me pretty heavily, about US $56 per tranaction. I do get a much better exchange rate though, so this more thn offsets the fees. I sometimes transfer money to a friend in Indonesia but I do that from my UK acoount. Usually the money arrives the next day but I lose a bit in the exchange rate. For some reason it exchnages from GBP to EURO then to INR. The fee is only GBP 4. I suppose it doesn't matter what you use, you either pay high fees or get a bad exchange rate.
I have a multiple currency debit card with my Singapore bank, so I don't pay fees with ATM withdrawals. I'm in China and there are no fees from the local banks when using their ATM, so this works out well.The cost of $56 makes little sense unless you indicate what it is a percentage of the total transfer. Sounds high but not if you are transferring 10000 dollars. I agree important to get the best exchange rate so that the remaining fees can be considered to be realistic fee amount. No fees but a bad exchange rate can be much worse.
LittleBigMan
12-14-19, 12:37
A year and a half ago I needed to make some large transfers but from Thailand, a coffee buddy Brit always used TransferWise told me the best rate and fees but only for small amounts monthly to live.
I research on the Internet and got all the major companies doing transfers a few advertised no fees but in the end, their rates were lower no need to explain why?
Some wouldn't do large amounts especially since I wasn't doing it from my home USA After all the research I ended up where I started TransferWise they do in fact have the best rates no matter how I added up things they came out the best in the end. I remember a company World First refusing unless done in the USA?
Without going through all the details about them they aren't your normal Bank to Bank transfer you need to sign up and create an account in general from what I hear and found out large amounts can be tough.
I contacted my Bank and Credit Union problem doing a large amount I think Zeller used by Wells Fargo would do only a small amount once you build up a history they allow more. My Credit Union recommended Zoom? They didn't convert to Baht regardless even if both had their rates were lower.
So in the end, needing to get it done still my choice came down with TW, the catch working with my Credit Union I did an ACH which cost me a bit extra basically I cleared the transaction with my Credit Union moved 60,000 into my checking account with my Debit Card number, has to do four separate transfers of 15,000 the limit. I logged on to TW and completed the transaction so TW would take it from my checking account. It took a few days longer but in the end, the rate went up and it came through in my Bangkok Bank book as FTT. Today as noted TW has changed a few things and it doesn't come through in that manner which is a problem for those who need to wire money monthly to qualify for their Retirement extension. I was told by TW, prior to making the transaction to notify them you need it under FTT, but they also don't guarantee it will!
Last September, visiting home I make the final transfer also a large amount with TW, I logged on to my account make the transaction and from my research, TW has their HQ account with Wells Fargo in and. I took down the information went to my Credit Union to wire the amount to TW once that was done they send a message to me and told me completed and money in baht was now in my Bangkok Account all done within 8 hours. The rate was still the best I could find.
July of this year I did a large transfer from my Charles Schwab account once all paperwork and clearance was done being in Thailand I had to call a number and speak to confirm it was me through a voice security system I was on the phone Internationally 10 minutes tops by morning my money was sent to Bangkok Bank I got a pretty decent rate surprise me since CS doesn't transfer in Baht. Bangkok bank charges me 500 baht to convert.
Sometimes like BF you got to do what you got to do to get what you need?
AussieDoug
12-14-19, 13:52
A year and a half ago I needed to make some large transfers but from Thailand, a coffee buddy Brit always used TransferWise told me the best rate and fees but only for small amounts monthly to live.
I research on the Internet and got all the major companies doing transfers a few advertised no fees but in the end, their rates were lower no need to explain why?
Some wouldn't do large amounts especially since I wasn't doing it from my home USA After all the research I ended up where I started TransferWise they do in fact have the best rates no matter how I added up things they came out the best in the end. I remember a company World First refusing unless done in the USA?
Sometimes like BF you got to do what you got to do to get what you need?A trap for beginners I found at the ATM today, I draw out 10,000 bht from my bank account linked to visa card. The TMB (Thai Military Bank) ATM first off charges an extra 220 bht for a foreign card, then offers to do an exchange rate deal on your withdrawal, it offers me $529 in my home currency, including 5. 5% commission, so I say no, and the debit to my bank account is $483.
The buggers get you coming and going, all banks are bastards.
LittleBigMan
12-14-19, 14:39
A trap for beginners I found at the ATM today, I draw out 10,000 bht from my bank account linked to visa card. The TMB (Thai Military Bank) ATM first off charges an extra 220 bht for a foreign card, then offers to do an exchange rate deal on your withdrawal, it offers me $529 in my home currency, including 5. 5% commission, so I say no, and the debit to my bank account is $483.
The buggers get you coming and going, all banks are bastards.I reported this about two years ago and recently Mr. Enternational reported it again. It depends on the card you are using some cards go directly to the International rate or whatever they call it like my Charles Schwab or Wells Fargo Debit card when using I don't get this message but my Credit Union M / see I do and when it happens I just push NO.
Whenever I need to use my Debit card which is several times a month I plan ahead and use only the Aeon ATM, in Pattaya there are only two locations, Big see extra on Pattaya Klang or Pattaya Nua, inside the Lotus Mall, gives good rates and only 150 baht.
Unless an emergency I stay away from all the other Thai banks ATM, I stay away from the Bangkok Bank ATM now I noticed several times regardless of card they just provide you with the lower rate which is what they want it to be the crooks don't even provide you the notice or choice.
If you need to change money now at the Big see Extra in Pattaya, Pattaya Klang they just open a T. T. Exchange booth across from KFC, prior inside was on Bangkok Bank lower level, Friday rate, T. T. Offering 100 bills 30.20. Bangkok Bank 29.85.
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Re not showing up as a foreign transfer, I can understand that, as just shows as internet transfer from another bank.But every ACH Foreign Transfer I previously made from BofA to Bangkok Bank was an internet transfer from another bank. How else would I make a transfer if not through the internet on my computer? Or maybe I misunderstood your comment. And they were all labeled "Foreign Transfer" on my statement, which is what I need to show Thai Immigration. However, that does not happen when I use TransferWise. With TransferWise, it is simply called a "Transfer from another bank," which is useless to me in terms of providing income verification to Thai Immigration. Same source bank in the USA, same destination bank in Thailand, same computer, same internet. Just different names for it when the money arrives.
New problem now is my wire transfer from BofA directly to my account in Bangkok Bank was returned because, according to an email I received from BofA, I need to enter a new "8 digit BIC/SWIFT code" for the recipient (me) since Bangkok Bank is no longer using the "12 digit BIC/SWIFT code". Except that I HAVE been using the "8 digit BIC/SWIFT code" as provided by Bangkok Bank, never the "12 digit" one. So I'll have to wait until Monday to go into my Bangkok Bank in person to try to work out what exactly is suddenly not right about the "8 digit BIC/SWIFT code" I have been using successfully for about 7 years now.
I am foreseeing at least two or three multi-hour visits to my bank and several meetings with at least 10 different bank managers, one at a time, to figure this out.
It's fun to solve all these weird new banking and money transfer issues in Thailand.
LittleBigMan
12-15-19, 01:54
Not an expert being so might not explain it properly here.
When it comes to TW, the reason their exchange rate is high because they aren't wiring money from your country to your Thai Bank. The Baht they are putting into your account is already here in another local account so once TW has confirmed your foreign funds they place the Baht into your account reason it doesn't come across as FTT, how it was done in the past not sure I heard a number of reasons but last year prior to the changes all my ACH transfers came across FTT.
Whenever I need to use my Debit card which is several times a month I plan ahead and use only the Aeon ATM, in Pattaya there are only two locations, Big see extra on Pattaya Klang or Pattaya Nua, inside the Lotus Mall, gives good rates and only 150 baht.........You are correct. I use standard Chartered Bank debit and credit card both. Generally I use my card at same bank booth at Thong Lo, Bangkok; Other than that I use Aeon located in some BTS in Shukhumvit. Yes both the bank charge only 150 bht and rate very near to cash exchange rate of the small booth at Soi 3/1 (there cash exchange rate I found best in the area).
Not an expert being so might not explain it properly here.
When it comes to TW, the reason their exchange rate is high because they aren't wiring money from your country to your Thai Bank. The Baht they are putting into your account is already here in another local account so once TW has confirmed your foreign funds they place the Baht into your account reason it doesn't come across as FTT, how it was done in the past not sure I heard a number of reasons but last year prior to the changes all my ACH transfers came across FTT.That sounds about right. It is BofA that is making the foreign transfer to TransferWise and why they (BofA) charge $20.04 USD for doing that. And it is why TransferWise only charges $3.23 USD for what they do on their end.
In the previous ACH method, BofA only charged $3.00 USD for doing essentially the same thing TransferWise does (a 3-day domestic bank to bank transfer). But it was Bangkok Bank's New York branch that took another $5.00 USD out of it to deposit it into my Thai account as a "Foreign Transfer." My Thai account then took another 200 baht out of it, apparently to make the USD to THB exchange, not sure why else.
If TransferWise could figure out a way to flag and notify Thai banks that the money they deposit for us did indeed come from a foreign account and should be noted as such that would solve the issue and, BTW, greatly expand their retired expat customer market as well.
The cost of $56 makes little sense unless you indicate what it is a percentage of the total transfer. Sounds high but not if you are transferring 10000 dollars. I agree important to get the best exchange rate so that the remaining fees can be considered to be realistic fee amount. No fees but a bad exchange rate can be much worse.The fee is $26 outgoing from my bank and $30 ingoing to the Currencyfair bank. I usually transfer between $10,000 and $12,000 per month, so the fee is small and I usually make up more than that on the better exchange rate. I get an email from currencyfair after the transfer saying how much I saved, it's usually arounf EUR 400.
That sounds about right. It is BofA that is making the foreign transfer to TransferWise and why they (BofA) charge $20.04 USD for doing that. And it is why TransferWise only charges $3.23 USD for what they do on their end.
If TransferWise could figure out a way to flag and notify Thai banks that the money they deposit for us did indeed come from a foreign account and should be noted as such that would solve the issue and, BTW, greatly expand their retired expat customer market as well.All these transfer companies work the same, they don't move money internationally unless they are short. It's basically a matching system that offsets people in country A sending to be with people doing the opposite.
Currencyfair allow you in add a line in as a reference to show where the money is coming from.
That sounds about right. It is BofA that is making the foreign transfer to TransferWise and why they (BofA) charge $20.04 USD for doing that. And it is why TransferWise only charges $3.23 USD for what they do on their end.
In the previous ACH method, BofA only charged $3.00 USD for doing essentially the same thing TransferWise does (a 3-day domestic bank to bank transfer). But it was Bangkok Bank's New York branch that took another $5.00 USD out of it to deposit it into my Thai account as a "Foreign Transfer." My Thai account then took another 200 baht out of it, apparently to make the USD to THB exchange, not sure why else.
If TransferWise could figure out a way to flag and notify Thai banks that the money they deposit for us did indeed come from a foreign account and should be noted as such that would solve the issue and, BTW, greatly expand their retired expat customer market as well.Hmmm. I don't see any charge at my home country bank when transfer money to TW account (presumeably that is also in my home country), unless it is hidden in the amount which I assumed is a TW fee deducted. Perhaps BofA is special, trying to defeat TW. TW tries to have the very best exchange rate but still makes a charge Fee. Obviously they have to make a profit somehow. The total fee is normally well under $20 for transfer of much larger amount than 100 dollars. The fee is higher if do not first Xfer to TW account.
Transferwise has multiple techniques of paying. Transfer firstly to TW account is the most cost effective. No credit fee or Eftpos fee.
Before I used a bank to transfer in my home currency, since their exchange rate was woeful, and Thai bank gave a better exchange rate. Overall I do better with TW, but possibly neither of those is best for transfer of a very small amount, and neither was instantaneous. Transfer to Bangkok Bank takes a day or 2.
For small money instantaneous I can use Western Union. I found a Thai video and groceries shop catering especially for Thais to use WesternU in home county that had a much lower xfer fee than normal. I would only go that path in emergency. Not totally convenient.
Bit Coin might be the answer eventually if buy and sell overheads can be low (I don't know what they are) since xfer is digital and instantaneous, and assumes bitcoin valu is reasonably stable (ha ha).
I have heard of companies with lower overhead than Transferwise, but also reports of them being unreliable.
Banana Boi
12-15-19, 12:13
The fee is $26 outgoing from my bank and $30 ingoing to the Currencyfair bank. I usually transfer between $10,000 and $12,000 per monthThat's a lot of sick water buffaloes!
Your home bank should not be charging you money to transfer money, especially if your account has sufficient funds to handle withdrawals of $10-12 k per month.
ShimShimHeyo
12-15-19, 15:14
Found this place called "Seoul Barber Shop" while getting some dry cleaning done. It's near Asoke Station a little off Sukhumvit on Soi 15.700 Baht got me a hair wash, foot scrub, back massage, manicure and pedicure, face massage, face mask and a straight razor shave. The shave was not as good as Tew's in Siam but I was not disappointed as it was super close to my hotel. The ladies are cute but there is no happy business here, which was just fine by me.
So prostitution is illegal. Anyone get busted for it before. What they haul you off to jail and you pay a fine? Just trying to manage the risk if it happens.
Etaoin2003
12-16-19, 00:42
So prostitution is illegal. Anyone get busted for it before. What they haul you off to jail and you pay a fine? Just trying to manage the risk if it happens.More likely you'll suddenly sprout wings.
That's a lot of sick water buffaloes!
Your home bank should not be charging you money to transfer money, especially if your account has sufficient funds to handle withdrawals of $10-12 k per month.Did you ever see a Bank branch manager turn white when you say. Really going to charge me that $20 fee? Yes sir I'm sorry its policy. OK, well I'd like to close my account, here. Sir we don't have that amount of cash here. Well start making phone calls then bud, I'm in a hurry. Well sir maybe we can talk more about the fees? Sure lets talk to your boss when he has to to start pulling cash from 6 branches. No need sir, how about we just waive the fee. In the future too? No problem then, sure.
That's a lot of sick water buffaloes!
Your home bank should not be charging you money to transfer money, especially if your account has sufficient funds to handle withdrawals of $10-12 k per month.It's an account I have in Singapore that I get paid through and then on-transfer some money to Australia. It's all a bit complex to explain here, it's for tax, income splitting and asset protection reasons. I'm self employed and work overseas. I get paid in UD $ and use my Singapore account for my day to day living as my debit card doesn't have fees and I don't pay ATM fees in China.
Banks generally charge for sending money out, just the fees vary. Receiving banks also have fees but you can either elect to pay them from your account or not. If you don't then the fee just comes off what has been sent, so you wouldn't notice it.
So prostitution is illegal. Anyone get busted for it before. What they haul you off to jail and you pay a fine? Just trying to manage the risk if it happens.Have you or anyone else seen a section of the Thailand Penal Code specifically stating that it is a crime for consenting adults to exchange sex for money? This issue comes up here and elsewhere every now and then but I don't recall ever seeing such a citation.
However, I have seen laws cited penalizing people for forcing someone to have sex for money, for coercing them unduly to do so, to engage in the exchange with someone under the age of 18 or in some other way unable to give their consent, for living off of THEIR income from working as a prostitute (as in a pimp or perhaps even setting up a bar or shop specifically intended to take a cut of the prostitutes' income) or for becoming a public nuisance while selling their services, as in gathering in large numbers, shouting out or waving down customers in an area not suitable for such behavior.
Whenever I have heard or read of busts "for prostitution" in Thailand it is invariably directly associated with one or more of those factors.
But an adult discretely consenting to have sex with other adults in exchange for money? I have yet to see that specific law on the books. Nor have I heard or read of arrests for either the service provider or the customers for it. Maybe I just missed it.
Crocodilexp
12-16-19, 09:29
But an adult discretely consenting to have sex with other adults in exchange for money? I have yet to see that specific law on the books. Nor have I heard or read of arrests for either the service provider or the customers for it. Maybe I just missed it.Service providers are occasionally arrested just waiting for customers, notable example being the girls on Pattaya Beach Road. They're normally fined 500-1000 baht and released, but obviously what they're doing is not legal. Not sure what exact crime it falls into, perhaps soliciting. Fortunately, customers are not routinely arrested.
The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much. In addition, specific laws on the books matter less than what the authorities are cracking down on today.
Service providers are occasionally arrested just waiting for customers, notable example being the girls on Pattaya Beach Road. They're normally fined 500-1000 baht and released, but obviously what they're doing is not legal. Not sure what exact crime it falls into, perhaps soliciting. Fortunately, customers are not routinely arrested.
The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much. In addition, specific laws on the books matter less than what the authorities are cracking down on today.I would categorise a sweep on the street whether it is Beach Road in Pattaya or Sukhumvit Soi 4 as responding to the "crime" of flaunting or making a public spectacle (nuisance) of prostitution.
Same with the joke walk down Walking Street where the cops proudly announce there is "no evidence" of prostitution going on. I think the only busts they would or could make (according to Thai law) is on grounds that the bars ares established not for entertainment, the fine art of the dance, and drinking, but in order to live off the proceeds of girls exchanging sex for money.
If there is a consenting adult man or woman in Thailand who has been busted solely for one of them handing the other money for sex or asking to have sex for money without any of those other co-factors involved I have not read or heard of it.
Sure, the cops could bust anyone effectively for "prostitution" by claiming one of those co-factors was involved even if it wasn't.
But an adult discretely consenting to have sex with other adults in exchange for money? I have yet to see that specific law on the books. Nor have I heard or read of arrests for either the service provider or the customers for it. Maybe I just missed it.Yes so its not like Sweden or USA, etc. Where cops might be trying to catch hookers' customers. Sure if the girl is under age or in special categories as you say, big trouble possible.
Most of us long time mongers have likely done girls under age accidentally especially at MPs, and ST hotels from a bar, merely because we did not suspect and think to check. However if Hotel desk checks her ID, could be a problem. I know I did a girl probably under age by accident who was a mother already, and only found out later. I certainly was aware off girls in bars non Thai or not quite the right age, but this has been largely stamped out by police raids.
Solo Hotel in Soi 2 once denied my girl who was age 19, as a room visitor (to stay the night). Yet I was able to check her in as a permanent guest and had booked a room for 2. How does that make any sense? Naturally I would not stay at such stupid Hotels.
My personal view is if a girl has a baby already and needs money to support her family, I don't see why she should not be allowed to work, her choice. Some girls and their children are under great hardship, without the government trying make things extra hard for them, and putting them into all sorts of categories.
The reality of Police Raids in bars and MPs, can be that the Police want to extract cash fines (bribes) from some of the hookers. However underage girls might be taken away to the Police Stations.
Service providers are occasionally arrested just waiting for customers, notable example being the girls on Pattaya Beach Road. They're normally fined 500-1000 baht and released, but obviously what they're doing is not legal. Not sure what exact crime it falls into, perhaps soliciting. Fortunately, customers are not routinely arrested.
The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much. In addition, specific laws on the books matter less than what the authorities are cracking down on today.Who here remembers New York city in the 1970's? Not much different from Bangkok or Pattaya today. Numerous street walkers and massage parlors where I had my best mongering. Occasional police raids where owners forgot to pay the cops or for show for one reason or another. In those days I thought it would never end. Enjoy while you have it folks!
Who here remembers New York city in the 1970's? Not much different from Bangkok or Pattaya today. Numerous street walkers and massage parlors where I had my best mongering. Occasional police raids where owners forgot to pay the cops or for show for one reason or another. In those days I thought it would never end. Enjoy while you have it folks!I think where it reasonably applies to the often asked question about it on boards like this one is we should avoid mongering where WE have control over any of those co-factors that, imo and observation, are really the only legitimate excuses the cops have under the law to bust customers, hookers, bar owners, shop owners or anyone else in the vicinity of the activity. I mean, we have no control over and are not to blame if a girl shouts out "Hey, where you go? Boom boom 1,000 baht ok?" in front of a temple, a staid family hotel or a group of high school students waiting for a bus. We are not to blame if it turns out the owner of a bar is raking off a share of the girls' service fees. And in neither of those example cases would we be arrested and charged just for being there at the time. Unless the cops wanted to trump up something out of nothing, of course.
However, we would be to blame if the girl was too young to consent or, even if over the age of consent, she could convince a cop and judge she "felt" unduly coerced to the point of being afraid to say no. Ah, that does get a bit tricky though. After all, a girl could tell a cop anything if she wanted to cause trouble for you, right?
On the other hand, I honestly do not believe any punter in Thailand needs to play hide-and-seek with the cops when they walk up to any hooker on the street, in a shop, in a bar or at a shopping mall rendezvous with a freelancer they've met online in order to avoid being busted for merely exchanging money for sex with a consenting adult.
Mr Enternational
12-16-19, 17:15
The reason most of us here haven't seen the specific section of Thailand Penal Code you're alluding to is that we never read one single word out of that book. It proves nothing. Unless you're a Thai lawyer, your opinion on Thai law isn't worth much.Hell, most of us have never read the code of our own countries and cities, and he is talking about reading a foreign code in worm writing?
Are there any resorts / hotels similar to Black Beards in the Dominican Republic?
I'm kind of just looking for a one stop shop that covers everything in Thailand. I stumbled upon a few websites claiming to have resorts like this with little information else where.
Hell, most of us have never read the code of our own countries and cities, and he is talking about reading a foreign code in worm writing?There are English versions of it online. Why would they omit the part about "Penalties for engaging in prostitution between consenting adults" in the English version when the penalties related to the co-factors I mentioned are covered in detail? Just to mess with non Thai-speaking farang punters?
https://www.thailandlawonline.com/table-of-contents/criminal-law-translation-thailand-penal-code
Title IX would generally be the pertinent section I believe. It really isn't very complicated or confusing. I mean, they speak directly to the issue of protecting prostitutes from exploitation, undue coersion, etc but say zero about her or him committing a crime just by being a prostitute in the first place. Or the customer commiting a crime by paying for the services of one.
I am in a less visited part of phuket, over by chalong pier. Rates are I think 1000 thb plus bar fine. Often there are no other customers or just one other. And 3 or 4 women. It seems like few make any money. Idk that but I don't see how. Anyway what price would be a fair price to pay? I don't want to be a cheap Charlie, but it seems like some would be happy getting less then getting none. And I would like to save some money.
Second question is would most girls rather get 100 thb tip or have me buy them a drink?
Thanks.
Mr Enternational
12-17-19, 02:23
Second question is would most girls rather get 100 thb tip or have me buy them a drink?What about what the bar owner would rather? Don't forget that most times tips are put into a kitty and split up by all the workers at the end of the night; same as it was when I worked in a bar way back when.
Second question is would most girls rather get 100 thb tip or have me buy them a drink?
That is not simple. You could ask them firstly how much commission they get from each drink. It could be 90 Baht these days (if girl drink costs 200 Baht), I am sure used to less. The other thing is does the girl have a monthly salary and a drinks quota? If she fails to sell the drinks quota, she could be facing fines off her salary. Some girls fines for various reasons are so high, there is no monthly salary left.
So generally I believe she will like the 100 Baht more, but sometimes could be wrong. For sure she would prefer both the drinks and the tip.
She won't be allowed to sit with you for long if you fail to buy her any drinks. That would indicate she is not working for the bar at all.
Tips in a gogo bar are unlikely to be put in a pot and shared. A tip in the money tray may well go to the owner unless someone steals it, or perhaps the behind bar staff get it, I am not sure. Put tip in the hand or bra etc. If intending to tip a specific person.
All these transfer companies work the same, they don't move money internationally unless they are short. It's basically a matching system that offsets people in country A sending to be with people doing the opposite.
Currencyfair allow you in add a line in as a reference to show where the money is coming from.I was attracted to the idea that with CurrencyFair I could add a line in as a reference to where the money is coming from, which might solve the problem of making sure my Bangkok Bank statement identified the transaction as a "Foreign Transfer" for the sake of my Thai retirement visa monthly income requirements. Unfortunately, when I tried to sign up for an account with CurrencyFair they asked for my country of residence and there is no entry or option for Thailand. So I thought I would find out what happens if I tell them I am residing in the USA. No go with that option either. I clicked the box for the United States of America but immediately got a pop up telling me, "We're sorry. We are not accepting applications for accounts in the USA at this time" or something to that effect.
Have you or anyone else had better luck signing up for a CurrencyFair account while residing in either Thailand or the USA?
Mr Russell
12-17-19, 17:00
Hey brothers!
I will be traveling to Thailand for the first time in March. Would greatly appreciate it if you guys could give me a heads up on where I can play. I've only mongered in Tijuana. For those of you that are familiar with Tijuana, I don't usually pick the $80-$100 HK women but I do prefer the women from Chevelas & Tropical between $45-$60 for 1-1.5 hour. Will I get comparable value in Bangkok? Is there a similar Hotel Cascadas near the red light district? I prefer to be able to bring them back to my own room. Recommendations & advice please.
Who here remembers New York city in the 1970's? Not much different from Bangkok or Pattaya today. Numerous street walkers and massage parlors where I had my best mongering. Occasional police raids where owners forgot to pay the cops or for show for one reason or another. In those days I thought it would never end. Enjoy while you have it folks!Wise words. Harken back to late 90's early 00's Cambodia. Viets, 5 usd ST and 20 LT. Place was undeveloped rough and raw. Only real law was don't hurt anyone. Thought it would last forever. Wrong.
Have you or anyone else had better luck signing up for a CurrencyFair account while residing in either Thailand or the USA?I can't remember where I was when I set up my account but it was probably Australia. If you know someone in the UK or Europe you could try using their address and your phone number. I use both my Aus and USA phone numbers with them.
You could try OFX, they are similar and I think they accept USA citizens. Scratch that, they don't send money to Thailand.
Mr Enternational
12-18-19, 13:33
For those of you that are familiar with Tijuana, I don't usually pick the $80-$100 HK women but I do prefer the women from Chevelas & Tropical between $45-$60 for 1-1.5 hour. Will I get comparable value in Bangkok? Is there a similar Hotel Cascadas near the red light district? I prefer to be able to bring them back to my own room. Recommendations & advice please.I just got back from Tijuana a few hours ago I prefer the $10 girls for 20 min. Yesterday even got a room for $1. 30. Never seen that before I only go in HK to look around and get my buy one get one free margarita. I suggest you go to Pattaya instead of Bangkok, or you will be paying above HK prices.
Hey brothers!
I will be traveling to Thailand for the first time in March. Would greatly appreciate it if you guys could give me a heads up on where I can play. I've only mongered in Tijuana. For those of you that are familiar with Tijuana, I don't usually pick the $80-$100 HK women but I do prefer the women from Chevelas & Tropical between $45-$60 for 1-1.5 hour. Will I get comparable value in Bangkok? Is there a similar Hotel Cascadas near the red light district? I prefer to be able to bring them back to my own room. Recommendations & advice please.At that price level your best luck will be in Sukhumvit soi 4 were there will be options both with street walkers and some of the ladies working in the bars. Prices of around 1500 -2000 bath for 1,5 hours should be possible. Check out the Bangkok thread. Happy hunting!
GuyBrusg1957
12-19-19, 06:02
Does anyone have preference over Bangkok vs. Pattaya? What's the difference outside of one being a city and the other a resort spot? Could I do both in a week or is there too much travel time?
Are all the girls young because to me that's a turn off.
Ralph Kramden
12-19-19, 07:33
Hi Gents.
I posted this in the Hua Hin thread too just in case anyone with a recommendation missed it here. Would someone please recommend the best way to go from BKK to Hua Hin.
Hi Gents.
I posted this in the Hua Hin thread too just in case anyone with a recommendation missed it here. Would someone please recommend the best way to go from BKK to Hua Hin.Wow. No criteria. Mini Van is quite reasonable, as is bus from Southern Bus terminal, train would be a lot smoother (in my experience of general Thai travel), but will take longer. Traffic can be heavy, so think about time of day to go if by road. I recall a rather tortuous return to Bangkok by bus from Chumpon (although that is a lot further away like double the duration) in afternoon / evening.
I have also been to Cha Am and Hua Hin by bus from Southern Bus terminal and was quite okay Since maybe a 3 hour trip, can't remember exactly.
Taxi is also feasible if you are happy to pay a fair bit more, for your extra comfort.
Train travel normally needs to be booked in advance of day of travel, probably because those that know find it much nicer than road travel, assuming not in 3rd class. In a train there is a far lower chance of being in an accident. Ha ha.
Not sure I understand the popularity of Hua Hin. As a beech destination there are a lot of Rocky areas and a lot of monkeys. Cha Am better but still so so for me. Yes its much quieter than Pattaya. Mongering is probably weak but at least there is some. There is a cave in Phetburi and a cable car but its not that special. Maybe Hua Hin is for golfers. Not a priority destination for me on any criteria. O.K. for those who want to get away from Bangkok but not go very far.
Mr Enternational
12-19-19, 13:50
Not sure I understand the popularity of Hua Hin. As a beech destination there are a lot of Rocky areas and a lot of monkeys. Cha Am better but still so so for me. So what beach place would you recommend that is better than so so?
Ralph Kramden
12-20-19, 01:32
Wow. No criteria. Mini Van is quite reasonable, as is bus from Southern Bus terminal, train would be a lot smoother (in my experience of general Thai travel), but will take longer. Traffic can be heavy, so think about time of day to go if by road. I recall a rather tortuous return to Bangkok by bus from Chumpon (although that is a lot further away like double the duration) in afternoon / evening.
I have also been to Cha Am and Hua Hin by bus from Southern Bus terminal and was quite okay Since maybe a 3 hour trip, can't remember exactly.
Taxi is also feasible if you are happy to pay a fair bit more, for your extra comfort.
Train travel normally needs to be booked in advance of day of travel, probably because those that know find it much nicer than road travel, assuming not in 3rd class. In a train there is a far lower chance of being in an accident. Ha ha.
Not sure I understand the popularity of Hua Hin. As a beech destination there are a lot of Rocky areas and a lot of monkeys. Cha Am better but still so so for me. Yes its much quieter than Pattaya. Mongering is probably weak but at least there is some. There is a cave in Phetburi and a cable car but its not that special. Maybe Hua Hin is for golfers. Not a priority destination for me on any criteria. O.K. for those who want to get away from Bangkok but not go very far.Thank you Syzygies I knew I could count on you for a detailed reply. I got a good recommendation from the Hua Hin thread for a taxi from the airport which l think I will use. I have no specific purpose there except for are & are for three days. I chose a beach front hotel north of the city with a lower rate and may venture into the city once or twice. I will be in BKK for the front and back half of my trip and will monger there. Cheers.
So what beach place would you recommend that is better than so so?Go one more hour south to Prachuap Kiri Khan. Great town. And Ao Manao beach is wonderful. It's not a tourist town either. I'm not a beach guy, but I love Prachuap.
I got a good recommendation from the Hua Hin thread for a taxi from the airport which l think I will use. I've been there 3 times, always with my family. It's a nice place if you just want to laze by the pool / beach. I was there in Sept for the first time in 5 years and I was really surprised at how many new bars and restaurants there were.
I have always wanted to go on the River Kwai Tour that goes to the cemetery, museum, memorial, Hellfire Pass, the train ride and the National Park. Has anyone had any experience with a good tour company? I prefer a small group of less than 5, so the vehicle used will not be a Toyota van stuffed with 15 tourists, that was hell for one day. The pricing I have seen is all over the place from $40 to nearly $300, but the average is around $150. Thanks for any suggestions, comments, or recommendations!
Mr Enternational
01-14-20, 19:12
I have always wanted to go on the River Kwai Tour that goes to the cemetery, museum, memorial, Hellfire Pass, the train ride and the National Park. Has anyone had any experience with a good tour company? I prefer a small group of less than 5, so the vehicle used will not be a Toyota van stuffed with 15 tourists, that was hell for one day. The pricing I have seen is all over the place from $40 to nearly $300, but the average is around $150. Thanks for any suggestions, comments, or recommendations!Where did you get these prices? The best prices for tours will be when you go to the tour desk at the hotel. As far as if they are taking you on donkeyback or helicoptor, you are on your own with that. Rent a taxi and make your own tour if you have a problem with the transportation mode.
I have always wanted to go on the River Kwai Tour that goes to the cemetery, museum, memorial, Hellfire Pass, the train ride and the National Park. Has anyone had any experience with a good tour company? I prefer a small group of less than 5, so the vehicle used will not be a Toyota van stuffed with 15 tourists, that was hell for one day. The pricing I have seen is all over the place from $40 to nearly $300, but the average is around $150. Thanks for any suggestions, comments, or recommendations!IMHO these are one of the most boring tours going, for the cemetery, train line, etc. The original bridge location may not be visited. The museum is more worthwhile if the tour goes there. There is actually more than one museum. Tours may do just one.
https://www.riverkwairesotel.net/best-war-museums-of-kanchanaburi-museum-of-natural-history/
National Park bit would interest me too but tours don't do that I think. I liked Erawan falls park walking but tours don't do that normally.
If was me, I might travel there and organise my own private tour to do my priorities, rather than be with a bus load on a boring tour. I have done many private tours in Thailand over the years. Sometimes difficult to persuade the mini van operators to go to where I want to go rather than the commercial easy places. One example is in Mae Hong Son you want to do the calcite cave Tham Kaeo Komol (amazing best cave in Thailand by the length of the strait) in Mae La Noi district but it is a long trip, and tours normally do boring limestone bat-shit filled caves.
Depends on personal preference what people like. I like more nature oriented trips usually.
Hotels can help you find a driver/guide who will go to the places you desire.
IMHO these are one of the most boring tours going, for the cemetery, train line, etc. The original bridge location may not be visited. The museum is more worthwhile if the tour goes there. There is actually more than one museum. Tours may do just one.
https://www.riverkwairesotel.net/best-war-museums-of-kanchanaburi-museum-of-natural-history/
National Park bit would interest me too but tours don't do that I think. I liked Erawan falls park walking but tours don't do that normally.
If was me, I might travel there and organise my own private tour to do my priorities, rather than be with a bus load on a boring tour. I have done many private tours in Thailand over the years. Sometimes difficult to persuade the mini van operators to go to where I want to go rather than the commercial easy places. One example is in Mae Hong Son you want to do the calcite cave Tham Kaeo Komol (amazing best cave in Thailand by the length of the strait) in Mae La Noi district but it is a long trip, and tours normally do boring limestone bat-shit filled caves.
Depends on personal preference what people like. I like more nature oriented trips usually.
Hotels can help you find a driver/guide who will go to the places you desire.Imo, if you are a WWII history buff the museum is very much worth exploring. I might even say it us a Must See if you are in the area. Go deep into the various rooms on all levels. Japanese generals' limos, uniforms, weapons, a hunk of the original bridge, amazing photos, etc.
While there were crowds of tourists around the corner gawking and photo opping at the latest incarnation of the bridge that might not have even been there at the time, there were maybe 5 people in the museum. Many people walked into the courtyard area, looked at the train engine and left, as though that was all there was to it. They missed a lot.
To me it was strange that they did not really highlight or tout that museum very much. With signage and arrows I mean. We had to ask 2-3 shop owners a block away from it where it was. And they weren't even that sure. Lol. I had to call out to summon someone to sell us a ticket (50 baht or something like that.)
It is a very short, easy walk around the corner from the current bridge location, btw.
Imo, if you are a WWII history buff the museum is very much worth exploring. I might even say it us a Must See if you are in the area. Go deep into the various rooms on all levels. Japanese generals' limos, uniforms, weapons, a hunk of the original bridge, amazing photos, etc.
While there were crowds of tourists around the corner gawking and photo opping at the latest incarnation of the bridge that might not have even been there at the time, there were maybe 5 people in the museum. Many people walked into the courtyard area, looked at the train engine and left, as though that was all there was to it. They missed a lot.
To me it was strange that they did not really highlight or tout that museum very much. With signage and arrows I mean. We had to ask 2-3 shop owners a block away from it where it was. And they weren't even that sure. Lol. I had to call out to summon someone to sell us a ticket (50 baht or something like that.)
It is a very short, easy walk around the corner from the current bridge location, btw.Thank you our most esteemed senior members for you wise and sage advice. I am a history buff, of sorts, and would like to spend as much time at the museums as possible. Your suggestions are very helpful and I have a couple of months to check things out.
These are some of the tours I found online and want to know if you two had any comments or opinions on them:
https://www.asia-discovery.com/travel/riverkwai/daytour/death-railway-train-and-hellfire-pass-tour.htm
https://www.getyourguide.com/bangkok-l169/kanchanaburi-river-kwai-hellfire-pass-private-tour-t193535/
https://www.takemetour.com/trip/joined-tour-river-kwai-one-day-tour
Again, thank you for your advice.
Thank you our most esteemed senior members for you wise and sage advice. I am a history buff, of sorts, and would like to spend as much time at the museums as possible. Your suggestions are very helpful and I have a couple of months to check things out.
These are some of the tours I found online and want to know if you two had any comments or opinions on them:
https://www.asia-discovery.com/travel/riverkwai/daytour/death-railway-train-and-hellfire-pass-tour.htm
https://www.getyourguide.com/bangkok-l169/kanchanaburi-river-kwai-hellfire-pass-private-tour-t193535/
https://www.takemetour.com/trip/joined-tour-river-kwai-one-day-tour
Again, thank you for your advice.You're welcome. Go for it. I hiked through all those sites featured in the photos, walked down a portion of the Hellfire Pass, walked along the train tracks, stopped by the cemetery and so on, but did not take an official tour. However, I was with a Thai girlfriend, her brother, sister and a couple of other Thai friends in their SUV so they already knew the area, how to get there, mostly where to go. The train ride looks fun. We didn't do that.
Again, maybe I am in a small minority but going through that WWII museum that is not even featured in those pics was the highlight of the visit for me. It was the one thing I think I could have spent 2 hours exploring but might not have been able to spend that much time in an official tour. It is almost as though they'd just as soon not many people know about it and go to that museum or spend much time there. They want you to walk around outside instead. LOL. I mean, they can't throw the stuff away, but there seemed to be little effort at keeping it up. Some of those helmets and weaponry (hundreds of items) were in a cage as though they were tossed in there right off the battlefield 75 years ago. For me it was a surprisingly powerful historical experience.
MixedSalad07
01-16-20, 08:47
Had 8 sessions in Thailand. Most were in Bangkok. Am posting in the general thread since there are so many sub threads. The bkk thread can be more commentary than reports but do want to "give back". Didn't break new ground but will share nonetheless. Will rank my experience from worst to best. Mostly paid "market" prices stated on the forum.
Noey. Bangkok Dreams - 2 H incall $$.
Pretty lame expoerence. I wanted Bania who is reviewed on a another thread but her agency told me she had diarrhea, so was unavailable. Booked via smoochi. Had a bad attitude to start that she blamed on bkk traffic. Was sore from overtraining at the gym. Very inactive. Nice enough but a dud. YMMV.
Take out from Thermamae. $.
Nothing too exciting but went out of convince and not having the energy see what else was available. My first action in BKK this trip so just wanted to get off some steam. No BBBJ or CBJ! Didn't negotiate services but didn't expect much for the price (2 k).
BBBJ and COF at 7 Heaven $.
Tried this one out of curiosity. Pick the services off the menu and the girl off a tablet. Service was precise and pro. Almost like getting an oil change. The girls who were unattended seemed super concerned for privacy. They covered their faces when I walked by which made me think they were more local (from Bangkok) but I really don't know. Was a decent change and seemed like something I'the try more often if I lived in the area.
MP Soi 23 $.
Darker skinned Thai with some curves caught my attention. Big butt, big boobs (enhanced). English was a little too good in other words too pro but she had my attention. Agreed to come to my hotel. Nice session, but no BBBJ. Boob job was recent and weren't as appealing with the clothes off. Body was still nice and was able to work with it.
Daisy Dreams $ Nuru session.
Was curious about the nuru massage. My 1st time. Wasn't that exciting for me but maybe was do to the SP. Was my 2nd trip to DD. Originally chose one girl from the line up but changed last minute. She was literally a clock watcher, but I gave her a pop on the bum when she looked up at the time. She did seem tired so maybe had to do with me coming later in the day. Still had a decent enough session.
MP near Marriot Marquis $.
Picked the best body / face / attitude combo out the line up. Didn't disappoint. Lady seemed a bit on the older side (relatively) but had a tight strong body. Excellent session.
Daisy Dream $ oil session.
This was my first visit. One with a great smile was on my short lists. Some other Asian patrons were choosing before me. They were deliberating and the mamasan asked me while they were still thinking. I was quick to make my selection. Did not disappoint. Great attitude and skills. Cute, decent body. Maybe wish I had repeated when I went back.
Suzy Wong's (Phuket) $$.
The night started slow but lasted a while. Had a mix of civilian and borderline FKK action in addition to the dancers. Eventually took 1 of the 2 girls who entertained for the eventing to the room upstairs for a session. It was pricey but after all the build up there was no way I wasn't going to get a release. Legit had a great experience and it was a lot of fun. No regrets. I think I would easily session with 95% of the girls there, while I've walked out of other places because the selection wasn't up to par.
Crazy House $$.
Had went earlier in my trip but wasn't sure of how things worked. Returned with the intention of bar fining. Saw a girl with a great natural figure on stage when I waked in. Small natural breasts with wide hips and a phenomenal backside. Her dancing on stage wasn't great but her looks made up for it, she said she was fairly new to that place, who knows but seemed legit. She was very eager to please once back at the hotel. Great experience.
YMMV but just wanted to contribute back to the forum. Stay safe.
StLouisMo2010
01-16-20, 23:53
Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.
Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.Been there for it. I'll simply put it this way. If you are easily upset by water thrown at you, then you might want to consider not going to the areas where you would be getting girls. I don't like fireworks, but it's part of the 4th of July, so hard to be mad if f you are going to someone else's country and get mad at their celebration. Don't wear cloths you're not comfortable getting soaked. Put your phone in something water resistant and enjoy the celebration. It's actually pretty fun and the bar girls are actually in a good mood. Just my thoughts.
Banana Boi
01-17-20, 00:25
Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.You may want to do a search for "songkran" in the various cities for more information. The key piece of information if you are trying to avoid Songkran is that Songkran in Pattaya lasts for 7 days, not 3 days like Bangkok.
I've never been to Songkran in Bangkok but certainly have in Pattaya. If you plan to hobby on Walking Street, LK Metro, Soi Buakhao, Soi 6, Beach Road, Soi 25, etc. be prepared to get soaked day and night for 1 week. Don't even think about riding a baht bus. It's like they have a huge target on them. I don't mind it for a few hours but it wears thin on me. Last April was the first time I bought a super strong accurate squirt gun that I could keep in my shorts. If some guy shot me for no reason at all I went after him until he retreated to his hole. Consider a ziploc pouch if your phone is sensitive to buckets of water thrown on it. Pro tip. Dry wick clothing helps. Use fat Farang as your shield.
LittleBigMan
01-17-20, 00:28
Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.Bangkok, you will get 3 days like 13-15th, guys who live there on this board will soon provide more information. But in Pattaya it will be a different story it will last for a good 7 days, and end the 19th of April, 17-18-19 will be the biggest days where traffic will come to a standstill the worse is the 19th. This year 17th-19th falling on the weekend it will be scary.
Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.People say it only lasts 3 days in Bkk but I can't recall a time in the past 7-8 years when it only lasted 3 days. In the places we go to monger, the red light distrcts, that is. Maybe the year the King died the schedule was strictly adhered to, I don't remember now. The tourists and girls will jump ahead and start shooting passers by with water guns and dumping buckets of ice water on their heads a full day or afternoon earlier than the official start day and don't be surprised if there is one loon who hasn't gotten enough enjoyment out of the "joke" to hit you with a garden hose shot walking down a quiet soi the day after it is supposed to end. All it takes is one.
Each day it starts about 10am and generally ends about 10pm. So if you don't limit your exploring Bkk and mongering to before and after those times, expect to get soaked head to toe several times over all day almost everywhere you go in the city.
Personally, I hate Songkran time in Thailand and would never recommend a first timer come here for girls during that time. Nothing regarding P4P will be normal and it won't be "better" than normal during that time. Many of the best or at least most financially successful girls will leave Bkk and retreat to their provinces that week. But if you have been here a few times already and just want to experience it for water fighting fun, fine.
People say it only lasts 3 days in Bkk but I can't recall a time in the past 7-8 years when it only lasted 3 days. In the places we go to monger, the red light distrcts, that is. Agreed. Stay away from Cowboy and Nana and Pat Pong for 12th April (and maybe 11th), and not sure what day is safe again, after 15th. Drunk Farangs likely to be the biggest idiots.
I went to the province village this year, and most of water games were at the temple or nearby. Karaoke party for Songkran was terrible. The villagers only sang Issan songs, which are far from my cup of tea, and not the stuff my Mrs. Listens to for Thai music at all. No Carabao. Ha ha. No Thai pop either. For some reason they cooked up some beef (in addition to pork) but villagers don't eat beef. That left me and one other to try to eat all the beef. Thai beef is a bit different to what we are used to as well.
The Mrs tried to dye her hair pink or purple for Songkran without getting adequate professional help. The colouration failed. Later lots of her hair started breaking off. Shit happens for Songkran. Many motorcyclists get killed or maimed on the roads when dunk, or when the truck driver was drunk. The highway and main roads are not safe. One teenager killed when he crashed into a stationary truck, rushing to see his GF.
Thailand becomes a mad house. For many years I was absent from Thailand at Songkran. Good plan, or stay indoors, or go with care. Sneak to your MP for mongering. Keep phone in a sealed plastic bag, just in case. Yeh, I am a pessimist, in case you did not guess.
Arrived via DMK could not get a grab taxi was about 350 baht 45 minutes. Got a sim with DTAC next True Move booth was cheaper then theirs.
Stayed at the Ibis 4, about $35 usd a night room was clean basic but good. The only dislike was the strong smell of cleaner chemical when checked in. Few hours of running the AC solved that. Its about 3-5 minute walk from NP. There is an amazing food setup on the sidewalk same aide right next door best fried rice and pad Thai 50 baht each. Lots of foreigners and Thai eating there. Also midway there is a lady that sells the best fried chicken I ever had. There's a few she was around or just a bit past Hillary 2.
Checked in and took the BTS to see View at Tulip more in depth posted there but short summary good experience but with so much on offer in BKK I would not go back especially if staying for a few days. She was the only decent looking one.
Later in afternoon hit up Hilary 2 for beers and pool. Best day time bar IMO for atmosphere, location and ladies although More on that later. Met a wingman which was nice as I found it a lot more fun.
Early evening hit up Soi Cowboy. Started with Suzie as I heard there was a ping pong show. Place sucked. Skip it.
Next Kazy Kozy. This is my top GG entertainment wise. Most of the time ot was girls trying to half ass dance around on the stage but when the shoe started, Jesus F Christ. Talking about girls dripping hot candle wax on each other, girl pulling a 10 ft long string of flowers from her puss and the cherry on top a full on fuck fest with a strap on. Wild highly recommended. Lots of hotties.
Then back to Nana check out Spankys, which was good but hard to top Kazy Kozy and perhaps but don't remember so must of been not memorable. My wingman found his friend the night but I wasn't feeling anything decided to make the walk of shame back hotel alone. Decided to stroll by the infamous Nana sign to see what was left. Stumbled across a cutie around 22-25 named Flour then realized she's part of the deaf squad, something I wanted to try as part of some sick craving I had watching some off the bkk112 videos. 1500 baht st didn't bother negotiations as was good for me. The pace she was running to my hotel I could tell she wanted to be over quick. Whatever I was tired and drunk. She was a blast, so tiny I could almost launch her with a hard thrust. Although this is terrible the squeals she made were fantastic. Especially when I unexpectedly blasted over her body. Was a quick but fun session. Then sleep as I had an early start next day doing a bicycle tour which I would also highly recommend. Got back to Nana around 7 of a full day of sun good food and exploring some off beaten parts of Bangkok.
Friend and I decided to hit up Billboard which was pretty good and then butterflies again I wasn't really seeing anything I wanted to barfine and was quite enjoying buying a ld and trying out a girl for a few minutes. Finally mammasan brought me a 22 tall nice tits innocent smile but smile eyes that said fuck me please. No brainer 1200 baht BF 3 k st 5000 LT it was still early and I had nasty plans for her I took her LT. She could definitely be in a tul tuk patrol video. My friend wasn't seeing anything he liked but my dates suggested she knew someone at playskoop the gogo she use to work out but which we found out that it had much less traffic then butterflies she moved. Went down to playskool all the girls recognized her and were eager to have some customers as there only a few. We started buying drinks and the girls there were eager to please getting really down and dirty I would recommend this place to have some fun for throwing a few baht as the girls seemed willing. The shots were flowing and I could tell my 22 year old was starting to get drunk and I said better get out of here before she ends up passing out. Long story short got her to drunk and she had to leave still had a great time and just paid her short time 3 k and was a bit pissed I let her drink so much.
I was still hungry for more so I went for a stroll back to see what was left it was quite late. Found a nice girl early 30's named Pin who had excellent English. After doing the LB inquiry she quoted me 1000 baht as it was last call I took her back and had a good time. Found out after she does A+ or 500 more. I regret not knowing about it earlier.
Last day woke up a bit later and hit up Doki Doki, a solid line up but no names I could find reviews on here. Ended up going with Honey who was full bodied but not fat with perfect size and feel fakes. Took the 90 minutes. Highlight of the trip what fun. Was my first time with Nuru and Honey really took her work seriously and looked after you. She did this leg lock siccsor fuck while I lay on my stomach, blew my mind. Also 2 course rimming for over 10 minutes. My friend who went the day before picked a skinny and tiny girl name unknown and got a+ but when I asked reception was not offered by anyone.
Had dinner at China town, was great with lots of delicious food options and lots of people fun to see.
We decided to BF two ladies 750 baht I think 2 k st I think 3 k LT from Hilary 4, them mine and other don't know name went back to Cowboy to Kazy Kozy check out a LB bar just for shits and giggles and then some dancing at at Country something.
After bars shut headed back to hotel she ended up being super weird and a horrible and disappointing experience for my last conquest in town for most likely a long time. Not sure if her name is them but that's how she pronounced it. She fair skin 36 pretty but I would recommend skipping.
Here's my summary and advice as a first timer for other first timers in this lovely city.
Stay in short walking distance to Nana.
Need money to have fun. I blew my budget by a lot but don't regret it spent where it counts in this order ass, drinks hotel and eating cheap delicious street food. Drinks were not as cheap as I thought and this ate my budget a lot.
The one night me and my buddy took bar girls we were both disappointed. His was super shy and not very fun in bed while I explained mine. The extra cost of the go go is well worth it that and you get an up close inspection with little or no clothes on and girls just seem to be more wild of course doesn't snt mean you could end up getting a starfish in bed.
My experiences with the FL were good and safe although that might not be the case for everyone.
Don't take tuk tuks even short distance they are a rip off, bike, taxi or grab.
Must try Nuru massage at least once.
Thais are so tiny and cute.
Bangkok Nana / Cowboy is definitely the best of all the mongering locations I have been in SEA if not the world.
Asian Travels
01-19-20, 14:44
Arrived via DMK could not get a grab taxi was about 350 baht 45 minutes. Got a sim with DTAC next True Move booth was cheaper then theirs.
Here's my summary and advice as a first timer for other first timers in this lovely city.
Stay in short walking distance to Nana.
Need money to have fun. I blew my budget by a lot but don't regret it spent where it counts in this order ass, drinks hotel and eating cheap delicious street food. Drinks were not as cheap as I thought and this ate my budget a lot.
The one night me and my buddy took bar girls we were both disappointed. His was super shy and not very fun in bed while I explained mine. The extra cost of the go go is well worth it that and you get an up close inspection with little or no clothes on and girls just seem to be more wild of course doesn't snt mean you could end up getting a starfish in bed.
My experiences with the FL were good and safe although that might not be the case for everyone.
Don't take tuk tuks even short distance they are a rip off, bike, taxi or grab.
Must try Nuru massage at least once.
Thais are so tiny and cute.
Bangkok Nana / Cowboy is definitely the best of all the mongering locations I have been in SEA if not the world.Great post. I'm coming to, town after a few years absence and this helped set the lay of the land. Thank you!
Member #4733
01-19-20, 17:48
Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.I have been in Bangkok with Songkran twice, more or less so. In Bangkok it was only 3 days. First year I spent a whole day getting soaked and liked it. At Si Lom, near Siam BTS station, at Khao San Road. At many places they will throw water at you but not in Lumphini park for example. But. They are fully entitled to do so. After 8 pm or so no water is thrown anymore, but officially people are allowed to throw water but nobody does that anymore. You can just enjoy Cowboy or Nana like any other day. But like Szyzgies said a lack of girls, esp Baccara but Cowboy2 was much better then usual. At Si Lom there was even a street (forgot which one) that had a sign telling they had decided not to throw water there. On some sites it is officially announced that Songkran is 5 days in Bangkok. But on day 5 all had turned back to normal, to my dismay. My advice is to go to Cowboy or Nana after 10 pm. Don't go to Si Lom or Khao San Road if you don't like water. Taxis function just like always, so no problem.
What about what the bar owner would rather? Don't forget that most times tips are put into a kitty and split up by all the workers at the end of the night; same as it was when I worked in a bar way back when.The bar girl will happily keep the tip for herself and not share it.
Member #4698
01-20-20, 20:08
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7906281/SARS-like-virus-spreads-China-nearly-140-new-cases.html
Currently as related to travel to LOS is concerned, this new disease only bears close monitoring, BUT I would definitely avoid flying any airlines originating or laying over in China. Also considering the large number of Chinese tourists and businessmen flying inter Asian flights these days, I would cut back on those flights too. I remember a few years back sitting in a row directly behind a heavily coughing Chinese businessman on a flight from Manila to Jakarta, I caught his flu and was laid up a few days later. So if you are in Thailand or about to visit, avoid all contact with anyone exhibiting flu like symptoms and if you see a NE Asian guy coughing badly in a Go Go bar or restaurant - get the fuck out!
Banana Boi
01-20-20, 20:54
avoid all contact with anyone exhibiting flu like symptoms and if you see a NE Asian guy coughing badly in a Go Go bar or restaurant - get the fuck out!
Scary part is that you won't know a person was infected until it's too late for you. May take a week after contracting the virus before any symptoms are obvious. This is Chinese New Year so millions and millions of Chinese will be traveling to other countries this week. Surprised no cases in Hong Kong and Taiwan yet but it's already hit South Korea and Japan. Maybe time to go to Germany instead of SE Asia or even Jakarta where not many Chinese tourists visit.
RojerAims1
01-21-20, 13:36
I'm going to be in Thailand late Feb for business reasons and have decided to extend my trip for 3 weeks for pleasure. My initial plan was to split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya to enjoy the sights, ladies, and food. I'm also scouting for potential places to become an expat at. Early retirement, that sort of thing.
As I've began RTFF it is slowly becoming apparent that maybe Thailand no longer is the monger paradise it once was. Comments about quality at the massage places and expansions of clip joints and whatnot. I'm positive there is great fun to be had so I'll still spend sometime there but this leads me into my question:
Any other countries on that side of the world that I should add to my "short list" to RTFF about and research?
South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, South America, that sort of area. I'm not too concerned with price, within reason, of course. I just want a nice mix of activities and joints to visit. (I'm going to Europe in the summer so I'll hit the other side of the world then).
To the point: where do you think the new monger paradise is? Or what has been your (recent) favorite place?
I can't wait to document my trip for everyone's benefit!
Cheers,
Rojer.
Banana Boi
01-21-20, 21:57
Any other countries on that side of the world that I should add to my "short list" to RTFF about and research?
South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, South America, that sort of area. I'm not too concerned with price, within reason, of course. I just want a nice mix of activities and joints to visit. (I'm going to Europe in the summer so I'll hit the other side of the world then).If you aren't concerned about price why in the world are you considering SE Asia as a retirement hot spot? European countries like Switzerland, Austria, and Germany with their FKK clubs and, more importantly, the fact you aren't living in a 2nd or 3rd world country with a lot of backwards thinking should be where you consider early retirement if you have the funds to do so. Japan would be my pick for retiring in an Asian country. Hobbying is not cheap in Japan but the cost of living is not nearly as expensive as you may think. Getting a Visa may be an issue depending on which country you live in. If you have money, Japan allows 6 month visas for those who can show they have 30 million yen (8.3 million baht, 273,000 USD) in their bank account.
If you are seriously considering Thailand, plan on spending twice as much as you budgeted. The Thai baht continues getting stronger. 10's of thousands of broke ass Farang around Pattaya are living proof that Thailand was way more expensive than they had planned.
As I've began RTFF it is slowly becoming apparent that maybe Thailand no longer is the monger paradise it once was.
In SE Asia there is still no other country that offers the abundance of options that Thailand offers. Those of us who have lived in Thailand for some time b1tch about many things but Thailand is still the number 1 place in SE Asia. The only other SE Asia city that can give Thailand a run for its money would be the MUCH cheaper Jakarta, especially for guys who like naturally busty young girls.
Only caveat I would put on this is that I would never recommend Thailand for Indian men. Your brothers who proceeded you ruined it for you. I would recommend Jakarta, Phnom Penh, Angeles City, and even Kuala Lumpur for Indian men.
Scary part is that you won't know a person was infected until it's too late for you. May take a week after contracting the virus before any symptoms are obvious. This is Chinese New Year so millions and millions of Chinese will be traveling to other countries this week. Surprised no cases in Hong Kong and Taiwan yet but it's already hit South Korea and Japan. Maybe time to go to Germany instead of SE Asia or even Jakarta where not many Chinese tourists visit.I stay for about 9 months a year in Wuhan where the virus came from but luckily left about 2 weeks ago for my holiday. The reason for where it has hit is the direct flights fom Wuhan to Seoul and Tokyo. There are very limited direct flights to Taiwan, only a couple of times a week if I recall. I doubt if there are no cases in HK, I'd say they haven't been reported. The train from Wuhan to HK is about 5 hours, so most people would take that rather than fly.
Luckily there are limited direct international flights from Wuhan to anywhere, although they have about 3 flights a day to Thailand, both BKK and Phuket, so expect cases to pop up there.
I'm going to be in Thailand late Feb for business reasons and have decided to extend my trip for 3 weeks for pleasure. My initial plan was to split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya to enjoy the sights, ladies, and food. I'm also scouting for potential places to become an expat at. Early retirement, that sort of thing.
Just to address this part: Thailand is still absolutely amazing and at stupidly bargain rates (for westerners). Columbia and Angeles City (Philippines) or other popular budget spots, each for their own reasons.
Don't let the discussions by more connoisseur and very experienced people here dissuade you that Thailand is still an incredible place for this stuff (or let the newbies just getting their DS wet as they figure it out too dissuade you either). We're more arguing the finer points and tactics and tricks to keep the top notch stuff rolling. Sure, the old timers will tell you "it wasn't what it was X years ago". Sure it wasn't, but 15 years ago we were also talking about blackberries can never ever die, they are amazing! Ok really, Thailand has so much stuff going for it in the scene and just in the country overall. Everything is good brother. And the PSE in Thailand, at the price they offer it, pretty much can't be beat anywhere in the world.
Member #4698
01-23-20, 13:01
The Good news: China has begun locking down those cities most affected by the new virus: "Wuhan to halt all outbound flights and trains as authorities try to stem spread of new pneumonia like illness ahead of Lunar New Year; death toll jumps to at least 17. And in addition to Wuhan, two more Chinese cities were put on lockdown by government authorities, expanding an unprecedented experiment to try to contain a fast-spreading virus that has killed at least 17 people and infected more than 500.
On Thursday, authorities in Huanggang, a city of 7. 5 million people said they won't let long-distance trains and buses run from the urban center and will shut its public transportation system in the lockdown zone, effective midnight Friday local time. Ezhou, another neighboring city with just over a million residents, said it would enact similar restrictions. ".
A word of caution: "Chinese authorities have suggested the coronavirus is spreading between people primarily through coughing, kissing or contact with saliva. " That means stay away from any working girls exhibiting flu like symptoms. Stay safe.
Member #4698
01-23-20, 13:22
Good post GrapeMan. While I do not think Thailand is a "bargain" anymore, it has not been that for at least 10 or 15 years, I do agree with your main point that LOS is still very very good. I prefer BKK & Pattaya over today's Phnom Penh (cheaper), AC & Cebu City (cheaper). For short visits under 2 or 3 weeks MNL (similar prices) and Jakarta (competitive prices) are very good, but these 2 cities are not as pleasant as BKK for longer stays. Sao Paulo is my favorite city outside of SE Asia and one could easily argue that the girls there are hotter than Thai girls. But Sao Paulo is not cheap either and I prefer the Thai Buddhist culture over any SA culture. Others are free to disagree.
Crocodilexp
01-24-20, 04:00
Just to address this part: Thailand is still absolutely amazing and at stupidly bargain rates (for westerners). Columbia and Angeles City (Philippines) or other popular budget spots, each for their own reasons.
It absolutely is not. Thailand has a scene that's more in-your-face and out in the open than in other places, and the atmosphere is a bit more relaxed with occasionally good and friendly service, rather than a typical wham-bam one-and-done in most other spots.
However, the girls are really not easy on the eyes these days, unless ample tattoos, ridiculous nose jobs and ugly thickly painted eyebrows are your thing. Thais (especially working girls from Issan) were never world's best lookers, but they used to have a certain endearing ordinary girl cuteness to compensate, with many coming across as normal and nice people, not hardened working girls. You could easily fall in love and spend a few days with a working girl (and prices were low enough to do so). It even wasn't rare for a punter to marry one. Among the working girls, all that is gone, a simple long time is hard to come by (and one probably wouldn't care to anyway, unless sex starved).
These days, working girls mostly look hard and chewed up, almost always in the lowest 20% by looks (for their age group, compared to a BTS Skytrain sample), and service is getting worse too, both in absolute terms, and in terms of actually needing good service at $100-$150 while not caring much at $30.
These days, even places like Hong Kong or Kuala Lumpur are better for mongering than Thailand in many ways. Service might be crap, but at least they occasionally have some lookers, and prices are not higher either. No idea why and how, but you can actually you can get a Thai in HK for 170 HKD, which is only 700 baht for a quickie (including BBBJ and FS). Not easy to get that price / looks combination in Thailand anymore.
I would still recommend Thailand for a newbie monger, because the scene is so open and easy (albeit not cheap), and because Thailand is still great to visit (good food and sights, easy transportation, tourist infrastructure). However, for a hardcore monger who knows his way around, there are better options than Thailand. Unfortunately, I don't know of a single place with a notable mongering scene in Asia that is the same or better than it used to be 10 years ago. Not sure why, but they all became worse over time.
Robert Long
01-24-20, 04:24
The Good news: China has begun locking down those cities most affected by the new virus: "Wuhan to halt all outbound flights and trains as authorities try to stem spread of new pneumonia like illness ahead of Lunar New Year; death toll jumps to at least 17. And in addition to Wuhan, two more Chinese cities were put on lockdown by government authorities, expanding an unprecedented experiment to try to contain a fast-spreading virus that has killed at least 17 people and infected more than 500.
On Thursday, authorities in Huanggang, a city of 7. 5 million people said they won't let long-distance trains and buses run from the urban center and will shut its public transportation system in the lockdown zone, effective midnight Friday local time. Ezhou, another neighboring city with just over a million residents, said it would enact similar restrictions. ".
A word of caution: "Chinese authorities have suggested the coronavirus is spreading between people primarily through coughing, kissing or contact with saliva. " That means stay away from any working girls exhibiting flu like symptoms. Stay safe.I'm afraid that this is a sample of what is to come in the near future. It is reported that Wuhan has a population of 11 million. Many Chinese cities are over populated and will have issues as time goes by.
Many of our members on our golf club are from China and they say that rotten meat and food are sold to the poor every day. The merchants do not want to loose money and they will not throw anything away.
As the world keeps over populating things will get worst. Food and water are the most important items in life and they are at the brink. Many cities in the US show high levels of lead poison in the water. We must be optimistic and hope that changes will take effect that can help avoid the dangers that are coming.
There were reports recently that the air in BKK is Toxic or contains Toxic materials. Wear a mask, drink only bottled water and Beer and eat pussy not steak. 555.
RL.
Member #4698
01-24-20, 15:09
It absolutely is not. Thailand has a scene that's more in-your-face and out in the open than in other places, and the atmosphere is a bit more relaxed with occasionally good and friendly service, rather than a typical wham-bam one-and-done in most other spots.
However, the girls are really not easy on the eyes these days, unless ample tattoos, ridiculous nose jobs and ugly thickly painted eyebrows are your thing. Thais (especially working girls from Issan) were never world's best lookers, but they used to have a certain endearing ordinary girl cuteness to compensate, with many coming across as normal and nice people, not hardened working girls. You could easily fall in love and spend a few days with a working girl (and prices were low enough to do so). It even wasn't rare for a punter to marry one. Among the working girls, all that is gone, a simple long time is hard to come by (and one probably wouldn't care to anyway, unless sex starved).
These days, even places like Hong Kong or Kuala Lumpur are better for mongering than Thailand in many ways. Service might be crap, but at least they occasionally have some lookers, and prices are not higher either. No idea why and how, but you can actually you can get a Thai in HK for 170 HKD, which is only 700 baht for a quickie (including BBBJ and FS). Not easy to get that price / looks combination in Thailand anymore.
I would still recommend Thailand for a newbie monger, because the scene is so open and easy (albeit not cheap), and because Thailand is still great to visit (good food and sights, easy transportation, tourist infrastructure). However, for a hardcore monger who knows his way around, there are better options than Thailand. Unfortunately, I don't know of a single place with a notable mongering scene in Asia that is the same or better than it used to be 10 years ago. Not sure why, but they all became worse over time.You have an interesting perspective Crocodilexp. I can more or less accept your analysis in paragraph 1 & 3 although I still manage to find cute, young, girls in BKK Go Go's.
But I strongly disagree with your suggestion that "Hong Kong (is) better for mongering than Thailand in many ways" even with your caveat that "service might be crap (in HK), but at least they occasionally have some lookers, and prices are not higher either. No, No, No! 555. Once upon a time I used to like the punting scene in HKG. I fondly remember picking up Mongolian, Korean, and Thai STUNNERS in Hari's Bar. It was never cheap, but the quality was amazing. Back then, I am talking 2002 to 20013, the Wan Chai bars were very good too as they were brimming with attractive Viets & Indonesian girls. Again not cheap, but great quality. And then there were the Chinese SW's that hung around Moody Road and the Urbon Council Garden in front of the Regal Kowloon Hotel. I liked them because occasionally I would spot a real attractive girl among the useless. But I was never a fan of Thai Temple Street SW's of which I believe you are referring to in this quote "700 baht for a quickie (including BBBJ and FS). " I mean I respect you opinion and maybe everyone interested should try them street girls at least once just for the slumming experience, but man its pretty low on the totem pole and scuzzy. You are not going to get any GFE, LOL, in this venue and the conditions in the rooms are deplorable, but hey what can you expect in HKG, a very ricco town, for 170 hkd. The Chinese SW's I mentioned are 500 hkd, but at least you take them back to your hotel room.
Anyway, I just wanted to balance out your HKG recommendation. I was last there in November 2017 after a lapse of 4 years. On Friday night I hung out in 2 of the most popular Wan Chai bars. The talent was below dreadful! Friday Night! Ok it was great if you like overweight, 40 year old Filipinas amd don' t mind paying them 2000 HKG. I went back to my hotel around 1:30 am without a girl!. It was that bad. The next night I gave up on the bar scene and picked a very attractive Taiwanese 141 hotel reservation girl. The session in her 3.5 star hotel room was good. Her price was 1700 hkg. I left HKG the next day and I don't plan on returning to HKG for another 10 years. 555. The scene is really bad unless you want to pay up and if you want to pay up you would do a hell of a lot better in Macau where the selection is the highest, but so is the price. As for bottom fishing, you can always go to China Town in BKK. I believe prices begin at 500 baht for a ST there. Good hunting to all.
Mr Enternational
01-24-20, 15:53
However, the girls are really not easy on the eyes these days, unless ample tattoos, ridiculous nose jobs and ugly thickly painted eyebrows are your thing. You better get used to it if you plan on doing any fucking these days. I will be the first to tell a chick that she looks like a damn fool. What possesses them to go around looking like that? And these ugly ass out of nowhere tattoos? I mean I have tattoos, but they have significance and are not in view if I do not want them to be. I didn't just hop up one day and decide it would make sense to have some permanent, random bullshit drawn down my entire leg or some letters on my fingers. I, for one, like chicks with natural beauty.
You better get used to it if you plan on doing any fucking these days. I will be the first to tell a chick that she looks like a damn fool. What possesses them to go around looking like that? And these ugly ass out of nowhere tattoos? I mean I have tattoos, but they have significance and are not in view if I do not want them to be. I didn't just hop up one day and decide it would make sense to have some permanent, random bullshit drawn down my entire leg or some letters on my fingers. I, for one, like chicks with natural beauty.3 cheers! Someone who thinks as I do. I frequent KTV's in China and if I see tat's they are not for me. Same goes for a smoker, not for me! I can not understand why a girl with a good body, nice skin, would mess it up with garish tat's? A beautiful woman's body is like a painting, you don't take magic marker and scribble all over it. Not only do you ruin the value, but the beauty is gone!
John Clayton
01-24-20, 21:18
3 ...I can not understand why a girl with a good body, nice skin, would mess it up with garish tat's? ...No matter how good they think a tatt looks when they're 25, I guarantee they will hate it when they are 40.
There were reports recently that the air in BKK is Toxic or contains Toxic materials. Wear a mask, drink only bottled water and Beer and eat pussy not steak. 555.
RL.It's the are boys and girls it's the air. If I can't see mm off of the 37th floor of a central condo, and the air is bad. If it's black purple in the NO2 on the web for the entire River valley, then the air is bad. If I walk outside to get myself a lemon tea from the sweet little coffee aunty and the air smells like yesterday's underwear and the SkyTrain looks like it's draped in the smog, then the air is bad.
So like a real American, I take problems right in hand and solve them. I'm not going to be in the cold during the winter or fall months, and I like Asia far better than Spanish countries. While it doesn't really matter except to my smiling bookkeeper, I like to be frugal. Plus, I need interesting things to do. So last week, I got on a plane and rolled into Siem Reap, arrived at 920 pm and was in a bar with a bag of weed and a beer one hour later.
And although there was a bit of burning in the air, and my colleagues told me that there is smoke that ruin certain photography opportunities, generally the air has been pretty clean. However, for the pictures that I was looking for, it's best you be in Siem during rainy season or in the early fall. Okay then, weeds ignored, transport as easy, the air is clean, that sounds like a plan and I rented a luxury condo for a year for 1/4 of the price that it would probably cost in Bangkok and three times the quality. Yes Virginia you can have those old days back, because basically, this is where Thailand was 20 years ago. I'm not going to laud the advantages, or gloss over the myriad of flaws, but it's just about 9 am, and I am on a balcony overlooking a bunch of dirt roads and palm trees drinking a cup of coffee that the maid brought me up since I don't have all my stuff yet, and I'm about to fire up a fatty.
I'll roll him to Bangkok later on tonight, and probably come back here again at the end of the month. Then when my lease is up in Bangkok, I'll just come over here.
Now you guys may or may not choose to debate all this endlessly but the suffice it to say about Bangkok is this. I've got 25 years of Thailand under my belt, I love the country, I love the people, I've never been treated bad by anyone, I have had and will continue to have some great times and made some great friends, the photographic opportunities is great and it's nice and warm. But government of Thailand but:
I'm not a long haired dreadlocked dope-smoking backpacking sex tourist of which there are many here in Cambodia by the way, which will even be better for me too because I can amuse myself by tormenting them intellectually. I had some California dude about 20 years old just lecture me about Thailand yesterday. It's so bad being ignorant like me and thank God for this twenty-year-old to tell me exactly the way how the world works dude. Basically, I'm someone that can afford to comfortably live in two countries so that my old and aching body is preserved. That place in the winters was always Thailand, but pay attention Thailand government, if you want me to let you hold $25,000 of my stash, or pay you a fat $15,000 for an elite Visa just let me know whether you wanted and cash, check, money order or bank transfer. But, in exchange, I really don't want to reporting every 90 days and give me clean air. That's all I want. That's the real problem too, anything else is just whining from internet experts or guys who think they are self-important or who can't handle anything in life. Air. Why would I go to Thailand and pay the same prices as I pay in key West and not be able to breathe the air? Why, because Thai girls are so beautiful and fantastic and cheap? I can do just as good in the West, in point of fact, I can have any woman I want anytime I want and honestly, it doesn't matter what it cost. So as I wander through life, it's the one bottom line of something and for me, it's the air.
Does that mean I hate Thailand? Am my running around message boards gloating that I have gotten out of Thailand and anybody that goes there is stupid? Am I whining about the fact that it's just so expensive and bar fines are so high you can't even have fun? If I were over on the Cambodia side of this board that I pretty much got the lay of the land here and you can get your jollies with a legal girl for 5 bucks as long as you're into the Chicken shack thing, do wonder how many people will send me messages saying yeah dude tell me how to get to the Chicken shack set sounds great. Whatever, and just so it's clear, if you are mongering through life with no focus other than that, welle you're not going to go to Cambodia.
And I suppose it helps that it takes me just about an hour to get to Bangkok. That's great because my crib here is so lifestyle of the Rich and famous, that already my buds back in the big Mango are thinking about what we call condo trading, hey man do you want to go to Bangkok, I'll give you my condo for 3 days if you give me yours. Yeah dude that sounds great, I'm in the mood for Mixx. You better leave me two hundred bucks, because my condo is nicer than yours. Let me know what breakfast you want the maids to give you.
And so it goes. I already started a brief report for you boys over at the Cambodian section, but I only got half done because of this silly system where they have to pre-approve your post. God knows why, there is so much stupidity blasting about maybe it's just like a time thing and no one really reads them. Of course, once I get rid of my distaste for the inability to edit my long reports because they have to be quote moderator close quotes I'll post some really hot Bangkok news that I've gotten. And a new venue.
3 cheers! Someone who thinks as I do. I frequent KTV's in China and if I see tat's they are not for me. Same goes for a smoker, not for me! I can not understand why a girl with a good body, nice skin, would mess it up with garish tat's? A beautiful woman's body is like a painting, you don't take magic marker and scribble all over it. Not only do you ruin the value, but the beauty is gone!Us old fuddy duddies better get used to it. Tats is a fashion and hip thing for the younger generation. Then we have piercings as well to deal with. How many beauties aged 20+ have none of these in the modern day? Not many, whether hookers or not. So the term "tramp stamp" is a misnomer, showing prejudices.
I still have some slight phobia about metal shrapnel piercings maybe with diamonds in the delicate pussy area. I did get used to ear rings, belly rings and tongue studs. I have pretty much learned to ignore tats, however I still hate to see them on the tits, if the tits should have a beautiful shape (naturals).
Girls that are hot in bed seem to often be smokers too, unfortunately, although smoking is on the way out of fashion I think. Young smokers may not have really bad smokers breath, if they are careful, but when they get older, they will.
Most girls will say they got tats when they were drunk, so it should be made a criminal offense to put tats on a girl with blood alcohol over some figure. There should be police raids of tattoo parlours. Ha ha. Maybe a minimum age of 21 before tats allowed, same for piercings.
Hi guys,
Just a quick question. Is it ok to buy this stuff from the street vendors along Sukhumvit or can you recommend a better source like a special pharmacy?
Thanks for your help.
K.
Hi guys,
Just a quick question. Is it ok to buy this stuff from the street vendors along Sukhumvit or can you recommend a better source like a special pharmacy?
Thanks for your help.
K.My take: It is recommended by the manufacturers that pharmaceutical products be stored within a range of moderate room temperatures. How do you believe the street vendors store their product? And for how many weeks or months?
The best place (price and selection) I have found to buy legit ED products is the pharamacy in the Foodland on Sukhumvit soi 5. The generic options are quite a bit cheaper, and in my experience work fine.
SL.
It absolutely is not. Thailand has a scene that's more in-your-face and out in the open than in other places, and the atmosphere is a bit more relaxed with occasionally good and friendly service, rather than a typical wham-bam one-and-done in most other spots.
Bull's eye! Props to 'good food, transportation and tourist infrastructure' as hard non-negotiable items for selection.
From your personal experience, within Thailand but outside of BKK, which would be your ONE choice for a weeks' stay, outside of BKK?
Likewise, within Asia, outside of Thailand (and now [coronarelated] China_HK_Macau), which would be your ONE choice for a weeks' stay??
Bull's eye! Props to 'good food, transportation and tourist infrastructure' as hard non-negotiable items for selection.
From your personal experience, within Thailand but outside of BKK, which would be your ONE choice for a weeks' stay, outside of BKK?
Likewise, within Asia, outside of Thailand (and now coronarelated China_HK_Macau), which would be your ONE choice for a weeks' stay??Many experienced Visa runners go to PP. Huge scene and nothing else to do. And cheap.
Crocodilexp
01-29-20, 18:17
From your personal experience, within Thailand but outside of BKK, which would be your ONE choice for a weeks' stay, outside of BKK?
Within Thailand clearly Pattaya if mongering is a high priority.
Likewise, within Asia, outside of Thailand (and now coronarelated China_HK_Macau), which would be your ONE choice for a weeks' stay??This is difficult. If HK or Macau are not an option, I'd personally pick Kuala Lumpur. It's a vibrant city with great food, affordable hotels, decent transportation, enough things to see. KL has a reasonably sized mongering scene, although smaller than Pattaya or Bangkok and clearly not aimed at Farang customers. A large selection of nationalities, but basic service, not much GFE. I'm sure a fair number of people would disagree on this, not the least because drinking is expensive in Malaysia.
A more typical choice for a Farang monger would be Phnom Penh or Angeles, but I'm not a fan of either.
I have been in a 10 week hiatus from mongering already. If the Corona Virus scare gets a lot worse, I may be looking at extending this for quite some time, with possible mongering semi-retirement, outside of my main girls. However see how risky it really gets first. Soon it could be a higher risk than HIV, just speculating.
It seems possible that girls' livelihoods could be absolutely decimated. I mean we have huge scares in Bangkok before, that affected tourism badly, whether bombs, floods, SARS, bird flu, etc. Who will want to be in a crowd in a bar, once plenty of Bangkok cases have been announced.
Immediate problem could be that girls might not want Chinese customers unless they can confirm they have not been to China, or know anyone visiting China. Once many locals including hookers have it, it gets hard to say how drastic the consequences can be. However what we know is there is generally a huge over reaction, to relatively minor risks. So mongering trade can be hit badly by relatively minor risks.
I have been in a 10 week hiatus from mongering already. If the Corona Virus scare gets a lot worse, I may be looking at extending this for quite some time, with possible mongering semi-retirement, outside of my main girls. However see how risky it really gets first. Soon it could be a higher risk than HIV, just speculating.
It seems possible that girls' livelihoods could be absolutely decimated. I mean we have huge scares in Bangkok before, that affected tourism badly, whether bombs, floods, SARS, bird flu, etc. Who will want to be in a crowd in a bar, once plenty of Bangkok cases have been announced.
Immediate problem could be that girls might not want Chinese customers unless they can confirm they have not been to China, or know anyone visiting China. Once many locals including hookers have it, it gets hard to say how drastic the consequences can be. However what we know is there is generally a huge over reaction, to relatively minor risks. So mongering trade can be hit badly by relatively minor risks.The impact on the mongering community is frightening. All it takes is for one working girl to get it. Then she spreads it to other mongers who then spread it to a network of other working girls. I think its better for us not to contemplate that.
The impact on the mongering community is frightening. All it takes is for one working girl to get it. Then she spreads it to other mongers who then spread it to a network of other working girls. I think its better for us not to contemplate that.The only scare if I get it is the quarantaine. It is less dangerous than a normal flu. All unnecessary panic.
Franciscass
01-30-20, 14:46
The only scare if I get it is the quarantaine. It is less dangerous than a normal flu. All unnecessary panic.Couldn't agree with you more.
Tens of thousands die in the US alone every year from flu. Over 20,000 died last year on the roads here in Thailand.
Less than 200 have died from the virus all in China with a population of 1,3 billion and it's been reported a lot of those had underlying conditions that could have directly caused or greatly contributed to their deaths.
I know this will increase maybe even exceeding the almost 800 deaths deaths from sars but when a vaccine is found the panic will subside and all will be back to normal in a matter of months.
Personally I am far more concerned about the long term effects of pollution and being run over crossing the street than standing near a Chinaman with a cough.
Sounds crass I know but as an aside I'm taking full advantage of the market buying opportunities presented by the crisis.
Member #4698
01-30-20, 16:56
There is no need to panic, YET. 555. That said, I would not go to China at this time for love or money. I am not a particular fan of China anyway since the crack down to begin with. China really sucks except for Macau which is very, very expensive, but still pretty damn good. But just to see if the virus has had an effect on Macau Tourism I checked out Macau hotel rates on Agoda last night. Nope, the hotel rates are almost the same as normal. The MGM Grand, for example is still priced at over $200/ night for any night Sunday to Friday and a lot more for the weekend. Like I said, I wouldn't go to Macau right now even if the MGM were under $100/ night. But my point is; apparently the town is full of gamblers and other tourists of which the vast majority are from HKG & Mainland China. Nobody is panicking, at least not the gamblers and the punters. LOL.
Thailand (BKK & Pattaya): Fortunately I am not scheduled to arrive for another 2. 5 months and I expect the virus will be receding and under control by then. If not and by that I mean there would have to be thousands & thousands of current cases in LOS and then I would cancel my planned trip and head for Sao Paulo. It has been a long time since I visited Brazil. Brazilian girls are hot! But sadly there is a lot more silly cone and botox in Brazil than Thailand, although there are still plenty of sexy natural girls to satisfy my wants and needs. I prefer Sao Paulo over Rio. The former is for serious punters. Rio is for tourists. 555.
If I were scheduled to fly into Thailand next week I would still go, perhaps a little reluctantly, but still go. There are currently no refunds on Airline tickets because Thailand is not in a pandemic situation. In fact, the number of cases in Thailand is still extremely low. 14 confirmed cases as of now I think. So, I would take some precautions if I were in BKK or Pat like avoid the bars, restaurants and malls popular with the Chinese and I would stop using the trains. But that's me. Everyone facing an immediate decision to go or not go should make up their own minds based on a rational assessment of the situation and their risk tolerance level. There is always Sao Paulo! But keep in mind that TV news blows everything out of proportion to sell adds. Get your news from reliable sources.
The only scare if I get it is the quarantaine. It is less dangerous than a normal flu. All unnecessary panic.Yes its far less dangerous than many normal risks (so far), providing you don't have it yet. Only once you have it, is the danger significant.
So the effect of scare is far more than needs to be, as was for bombs, bird flu, Sars, Asian swine flu, etc.
Would be interesting to know if the scare is so bad that Chinese people start to be totally avoided.
My trip will be March to Philippines and Thailand. Hopefully the epidemic would ease and those countries are no unduly affected. In Philippines it can spread like wild fire due to lack of basics. Thailand maybe better equipped to handle. We will see.
Unfortunately most of our targets go with whoever to make money. Case in point is I was sick one day and told this girl I cannot be with her that day and she said she still wants to come and be with me. I had to firmly say no.
Plenty of Chinese go to Philippines and Thailand for cheap vacation just like we do. So far there are no cancelled flights into those countries. If according to WHO virus can be easily transmissible everybody is taking a risk. Face mask or no face mask, sex or no sex. Even eating food may be contaminated. Add pollution to the mix.
Hopefully our immune system is good.
My trip will be March to Philippines and Thailand. Hopefully the epidemic would ease and those countries are no unduly affected. In Philippines it can spread like wild fire due to lack of basics. Thailand maybe better equipped to handle. We will see.
Unfortunately most of our targets go with whoever to make money. Case in point is I was sick one day and told this girl I cannot be with her that day and she said she still wants to come and be with me. I had to firmly say no.
Plenty of Chinese go to Philippines and Thailand for cheap vacation just like we do. So far there are no cancelled flights into those countries. If according to WHO virus can be easily transmissible everybody is taking a risk. Face mask or no face mask, sex or no sex. Even eating food may be contaminated. Add pollution to the mix.
Hopefully our immune system is good.Jeez, virus is less deadly than SARS or MERS and seems to only spread through close contact. You are way more likely to get a nasty influenza type a. It's a great time to travel as prices will be down and people will be scared so less of them will be traveling.
It's a great time to travel as prices will be down and people will be scared so less of them will be traveling.The problem with travelling there now is that your return flight might get cancelled and you're stuck there. The USA has issued a "Do not travel" warning, so anyone from the US with travel insurance that goes there could void their policy.
I've just looked at flights to Wuhan for March as I have some business to take care of there, couldn't even book a flight online.
The problem with travelling there now is that your return flight might get cancelled and you're stuck there. The USA has issued a "Do not travel" warning, so anyone from the US with travel insurance that goes there could void their policy.
I've just looked at flights to Wuhan for March as I have some business to take care of there, couldn't even book a flight online.Even better if the US warns against travel. Would I go to Wuhan? Don't think so. Chengdu or other places in China? I would. Even the locals will be spooked.
Banana Boi
01-31-20, 07:44
You guys should read the German FKK forums. Comedic. There is talk there to ban ALL Asians from FKK clubs. For those who don't know, some of the most popular FKK clubs like Sharks has a ton of Asian customers, mainly from USA and Japan.
You guys should read the German FKK forums. Comedic. There is talk there to ban ALL Asians from FKK clubs. For those who don't know, some of the most popular FKK clubs like Sharks has a ton of Asian customers, mainly from USA and Japan.The hysteria is staggering.
FlAdventurer
01-31-20, 10:44
Loved every minute of it. Stayed at hotel on Surawongse, had no problem getting girls to come there but would have had more fun staying near Pier 21 or JW Marriott area. Plenty of cheap hotels in the area.
Had tons of other things to do so only saw 3 girls. Asking rates of anywhere from 2,000 B to 6,000 B for 60-90 minutes. BBBJ, full service condom. Overnights can be had for 4-5,000 B for a good looking girl. Tinder and Line were both respectable sources.
Will repeat, often.
I am in SEA these days. I just spent one week in Pattaya, 5 days in Bangkok, and I am currently in Phnom Penh for 5 days. I noticed a concern among the Thai folks. You cannot even buy a mask these days as they ran out. My FL fav is a nurse at a Bangkok hospital and she claimed that she was able to secure a "superior" mask. She also offered to get me one but I declined. I also noticed that very few farangs were wearing one.
On the other hand, here in PP it's a different story. The Cambodian PM has been bitching about the population being unnecessary scared, read chasing away tourists.
I agree this would be a great opportunity to visit a place like Saġ Paulo. I have not been there in a while, unfortunately, I reserved my trip last November and I had no desire to cancel and start over.
Member #4698
01-31-20, 23:04
It looks like most airlines have now suspended flights from China. This should of been done 2 weeks ago. Thailand is up to 19 confirmed cases with the most recent being the first human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus to occur inside LOS after a local Thai taxi driver was apparently infected by a Chinese traveller. Still, the suspension of all flights should do it ie contain the virus to China and keep Thailand safe.
https://www.businessinsider.com/airlines-canceling-changing-flights-to-china-amid-coronavirus-fears-2020-1
It looks like most airlines have now suspended flights from China. This should of been done 2 weeks ago. Thailand is up to 19 confirmed cases with the most recent being the first human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus to occur inside LOS after a local Thai taxi driver was apparently infected by a Chinese traveller. Still, the suspension of all flights should do it ie contain the virus to China and keep Thailand safe.
https://www.businessinsider.com/airlines-canceling-changing-flights-to-china-amid-coronavirus-fears-2020-1Whether there are only 19 cases here and my mind is subject to debate. You know as well as I do how the Thai government operates. I was going to stay here throughout February and then go over to Cambodia, but I'm leaving tomorrow. Mongering scene is horrible in Siem Reap but the air is clean, there's plenty of weed and stuff to take photos of and luxury condos are one-third the price of Bangkok. Hell, I have 10 km of carvings in anchor to photo. I'll come back to Bangkok when this all dies down.
Member #4698
02-01-20, 02:32
I was going to stay here throughout February and then go over to Cambodia, but I'm leaving tomorrow. Mongering scene is horrible in Siem Reap but the air is clean, there's plenty of weed and stuff to take photos of and luxury condos are one-third the price of Bangkok. Hell, I have 10 km of carvings in anchor to photo. I'll come back to Bangkok when this all dies down.The Angkor Wat Archaeological Park is amazing and Siem Reap as a town is actually nicer IMHO than Chain Mai plus this time of year it has cleaner air. But as you note, from a mongering perspective, nothing much is happening. Ha Ha. A week is about as much as I would care to spend there. So if you are at all like me and don't want to go too long without girls, ha ha, you will have to go to Phnom Penh sooner or later for quality boom boom.
I like Phnom and I like Khmer girls. I think they are sweet and kind of funky, but I think you will find the same China risks there in Phnom that you find in BKK and Pat. Up to you how you want to respond to that. Personally I think at this stage the virus outside of China is mostly news hype, although it might become serious and bears close monitoring for sure. So at this moment I would avoid China, HKG, and Macau, but that is all. I also think that even in non-eventful years, the worst time of the year to be in BKK or Pat is Dec / Jan. High Season. Things will get better, a lot better by April / May, but if I am wrong, like I said previously, I am prepared to jump ship and head to Sao Paulo. E tudo de bom!
It's surprising how one's perspective goes out of the window when the news coverage is so intense and emotive. 60 people die on Thai roads every day. This is a substantially higher rate than the death rate from nCoV across the whole of China (current total 259), and no-one has so far died outside China. Yet nobody says "I'm not coming to Thailand because the roads are unsafe".
I have a trip to Pattaya booked in 2 weeks time. I'm not cancelling unless the situation in Thailand spirals dramatically. And I'm looking forward to less Chinese roaming the streets.
You guys should read the German FKK forums. Comedic. There is talk there to ban ALL Asians from FKK clubs. For those who don't know, some of the most popular FKK clubs like Sharks has a ton of Asian customers, mainly from USA and Japan.I am in Frankfurt now and the girls would certainly object to such a ban. The Asian hunters as they are called are very busy chasing after the Asian punters. I have seen it for myself.
Due to the outbreaks, specially Thailand has a lot of Chinese tourist even before the outbreaks become pandemic, so at this present period how many taxi drivers, bar girls, hotel staff have been infected? Nobody knows, the incubation period tooks at 14 days so known outbreaks in China began (officially) January 23rd then its not known how many Thais are already got infected? Specially bar girls, massage girls that come in close contact with any Chinese man during those periods.
So scary, thinking of postponing my trip this month to BKK.
Cheers,
MD.
It's surprising how one's perspective goes out of the window when the news coverage is so intense and emotive. 60 people die on Thai roads every day. This is a substantially higher rate than the death rate from nCoV across the whole of China (current total 259), and no-one has so far died outside China. Yet nobody says "I'm not coming to Thailand because the roads are unsafe".If you are in a car accident in Thailand you yourself are injured. But if you carry the nCoV home with you there is a risk of infecting your family, friends, acquaintances, and work colleagues. Not to mention the people you come in contact with during transit.
SL.
Franciscass
02-03-20, 09:26
If you are in a car accident in Thailand you yourself are injured. But if you carry the nCoV home with you there is a risk of infecting your family, friends, acquaintances, and work colleagues. Not to mention the people you come in contact with during transit.
SL.With respect I feel you are missing the point Roberto was making. Yes of course if you contact any transmittable condition including incidentally STD'S you are a carrier with the possibility of infecting others. However the likelihood of contacting the corona virus pales into insignificance when compared to the chances of being killed or seriously injured on Thailand's roads and yet this is rarely mentioned or even considered when deciding to holiday here. It's a matter of perspective and balance and the hysteria coming from the way the media is covering the outbreak is wholly over sensationalized. This is in no way to dismiss or trivialise the hundreds of deaths in China but we are talking hundreds in a country of 1,300,000 000 people many of whom would probably have died from underlying medical problems anyhow.
It's surprising how one's perspective goes out of the window when the news coverage is so intense and emotive. 60 people die on Thai roads every day. This is a substantially higher rate than the death rate from nCoV across the whole of China (current total 259), and no-one has so far died outside China. Yet nobody says "I'm not coming to Thailand because the roads are unsafe".
I have a trip to Pattaya booked in 2 weeks time. I'm not cancelling unless the situation in Thailand spirals dramatically. And I'm looking forward to less Chinese roaming the streets.Yep, you are spot on. The hysteria is amazing. Great time to come to Thailand as there are very few tourists here. And I would imagine hotel prices across the region will be falling along with airfares.
Applesauce
02-03-20, 13:09
With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?
MassageFun
02-03-20, 14:42
With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?No not at all I British born Chinese and I have no issues. Benn in BKK for 1 week all is fine.
With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?I have American Chinese friend who live in Pattaya and he is having no problem. Ofcourse other mongers and some girls get cautious when they see him in bar, but no massage shop has sent him away, yet. As far as outcall escort, I think you should make it clear before booking that you're American-chinese but not from wuhan region, to avoid any confusion later on.
HorseTrader
02-03-20, 19:03
Yep, you are spot on. The hysteria is amazing. Great time to come to Thailand as there are very few tourists here. And I would imagine hotel prices across the region will be falling along with airfares.I'm still home but will start my journey tomorrow. I made airline reservations in early November and paid $2250 round trip. Same seats for same dates has varied quite a bit since I purchased. Same ticket was down to $1450 in late November and up to $2900 in mid-December. About 5 days ago price had again dropped to $1450 for a short time and quickly back to $2250. I can't figure out when airline prices will be high or low.
Hotel prices at my destinations are a bit more expensive than I paid through Hotels.com in November.
Yep, you are spot on. The hysteria is amazing. Great time to come to Thailand as there are very few tourists here. And I would imagine hotel prices across the region will be falling along with airfares.From past experience, when business goes down, girl prices go up. Counter to all logic ha ha, other than the girl needs more money than usual. I wonder if Hotel prices will really drop?
I would not be put off by the Virus just yet unless becomes quite prevalent in Bangkok. Yet business in Chinese districts in my home country (with few virus cases) has been decimated. A shopping centre food court is doing very badly.
My times of sickness are usually directly following international flights, so that is the risk for me for lots of viruses, even if not flying out of China.
I agree with the writer who points out that there are still far bigger risks in Bangkok, than the virus, such as crossing the road, being on a motorcycle, being struck by lightning, salmonella, botulism, even legionaires disease maybe.
Google Maps shows how bad is the traffic for your directions of best route between two places.
To see Bangkok traffic map in general. Try this:
http://traffic.longdo.com/en/
You can even get past flood maps.
I use Longdo Dictionary too, but its only useful to translate Thai to English if you know Thai script. In reverse, there is some Romanised Thai phonetics for English words in the Thai-English-French: Volubilis Dictionary part. However one can see this dictionary is intended for Thai people, or very advanced Thai speakers. Thai-Language.com is good for English speakers.
Volubis http://belisan-volubilis.blog$spot.com/ (remove the dollar sign) provides Excel spreadsheets with Thai, Romanised Thai, English, French. There are top 2000, top 5000, top 10000, and 100 K words / phrases database versions. I am soon to complete study of the top 5000, but am working on Lao / Issan words too. Being forced to speak mainly Thai most days has helped me a lot. The Mrs refuses to speak English to me, but will speak Issan sometimes.
Excel spread-sheets can be fed into Flashcard apps to assist study. Flashcards Deluxe is a really good phone App.
Its not always easy to really like all foreign languages equally. I like Thai, but dislike Issan / Lao, German, Vietnamese, Tagalog, to mention a few I have tried studying. Most languages have some annoying features that we find hard to adapt to. E. g for German its the complex grammar that is annoying, where Thai has the simplest grammar imaginable, perhaps. Issan just sounds much more ugly than Thai. Even the Lao people agree that Thai sounds nicer. Written Lao has spelling more simplified than Thai, even though 90% of Thai words have a regular spelling.
Mr Enternational
02-04-20, 16:54
With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that.Damn right they would not know that. There are millions of Chinese Thai. They would just as well assume you were one of their own until you opened your mouth.
Mr Enternational
02-04-20, 16:56
I can't figure out when airline prices will be high or low.Low: 2am on a Tuesday night. High: Noon on a Friday.
Mr Enternational
02-04-20, 17:13
If you are in a car accident in Thailand you yourself are injured. But if you carry the nCoV home with you there is a risk of infecting your family, friends, acquaintances, and work colleagues. Not to mention the people you come in contact with during transit.Over the last 10 years there has been widely publicized measles, sars, mers, bird flu, swine flu, dengue, zika, chikungunya, yellow fever, cholera, H1N1, ebola, and whatever else I can't think of right now. This year it is corona. Next year there will be something else. When do you plan to move into a cave for the rest of your life?
With coronavirus in mind, what's the current attitude of girls towards Chinese or Asians? I'm Chinese-American not that any girl would know that. Haven't stepped foot on Mainland China in many years and have no desire to again. Are massage places going to reject me at the door? Will outcall escorts turn away when I open the door?I was in Bankok this past weekend Thurs-Sun and was also there till mid Jan. When I landed at the airport this time it felt spooky with a lot of staff everywhere with masks and thermal scanners pointed at people. However once you are out and in the city things seemed just normal except for a lot of people now with face masks including all hotel staff. Bars in Nana, Clubs (level, insanity) and gogo bars were humming as usual although less crowded than NYear. I did not venture to Soi see this time nor Thermae due to not finding time. But a previous thermae contact that I sessioned with told me that she and her friends have stopped going to thermae because of the Chinese possibly visiting there.
Over the last 10 years there has been widely publicized measles, sars, mers, bird flu, swine flu, dengue, zika, chikungunya, yellow fever, cholera, H1N1, ebola, and whatever else I can't think of right now. This year it is corona. Next year there will be something else. When do you plan to move into a cave for the rest of your life?Your snark is wholly unnecessary Mr. E but no hard feelings though; as I believe people should do what they enjoy the most.
If you are in Bangkok next week let me know, and I will buy you a drink.
SL.
Over the last 10 years there has been widely publicized measles, sars, mers, bird flu, swine flu, dengue, zika, chikungunya, yellow fever, cholera, H1N1, ebola, and whatever else I can't think of right now............I recall all these outbreaks yet none created as great a scare or resulted in more economic damage than the coronavirus. I wonder why?
Over the last 10 years there has been widely publicized measles, sars, mers, bird flu, swine flu, dengue, zika, chikungunya, yellow fever, cholera, H1N1, ebola, and whatever else I can't think of right now. This year it is corona. Next year there will be something else. When do you plan to move into a cave for the rest of your life?Good one! Yes I plan to be particularly healthy for the rest of my life by cutting myself off from society, living remotely with very low social contact, not quite a cave, but like a hermit. The one problem is this is not quite compatible with mongering. Ha ha. Can I give it up? Probably not. Maybe for a while, or in patches. My big cut back occurred before the Corona virus, by coincidence.
Airlines could advertise a new class of seating where passengers could pay a little more to be sealed inside a capsule with special air filtering. I seem to remember a Sci Fi book about everyone being sealed off from each other and trying to live to a very old age.
I can hardly remember Mers and H1 N1. Yet I read Thailand had 18 deaths from Swine Flu.
It is hard to fully understand the scare level. 1st factor is how many people have it and where they are located. The death rate of 5% has to be important (Sars was more deadly), since huge numbers of people catch a Flu or Corona Virus of some sort each year. 3nd factor is the level of contagiousness (ease to pass on airborne and surfaces). Number of cases reportedly doubling every 5 days. Will it peak soon? Then there is the insidiousness of symptomless persons passing it on with long incubation period. If you are very close to an infected patient for some time period, are you certain catch it?
Other factors:
Chinese government cover up.
I wonder if the name is relevant? If this was called "bat flu" instead of the Corona Virus, would that be much less scary?
I recall the bird flu time as really silly, with hotels insisting to over cook eggs till they were virtually inedible.
Can the spread be halted, or will it go to all countries? If so, the death toll will be huge.
In a very deadly monkey virus movie with Dustin Hoffman starring, I recall the military planning to drop a nuke on the infected area.
We are all meeting girls wearing masks now. Its a bit like a Hijab. I can't see how good looking they are any more. I am imagining a visit to Crazy House with girls dancing fully nude but with face masks on. Might be a little surreal.
Would guys be happy to fuck girls wearing a mask? Will blow jobs be totally banned as too dangerous?
Banana Boi
02-08-20, 22:12
Terrible tragedy at Terminal 21 in Korat yesterday afternoon. Over 50 shot and 20 dead.
Robert Long
02-09-20, 06:43
Terrible tragedy at Terminal 21 in Korat yesterday afternoon. Over 50 shot and 20 dead.Yes, it seems Thailand is getting as bad as America. I hope they don't start shooting kids in school like they do in the USA. Terrible sick people.
RL.
A friend of mine who married a Thai lady and retired there responded to my query about the situation in Thailand and why there seemed to be little activity reported there in terms of infections when every other near by country is reporting increased infections every day or so. This is the response I got this morning:
"Everyone here knows that the Thai govt only cares about money and not its people. Why else would they not be harder on China? The China tourist trade has dropped considerably and the Thai govt is freaked over the loss of income.
Adding to their greed and stupidity, they are now seriously considering to implement a new tourist tax. Taxing new visitors to make up for the diminished income of the Chinese.
I am encouraging my friends to stay away until the virus fully blows over. The baht is getting hammered at the moment and the trend might continue. So waiting is a good idea. ".
This is only for informational purposes only. I do not want to open a debate or argument on this situation. Take it for what it is worth.
Mr Enternational
02-10-20, 20:19
I am encouraging my friends to stay away until the virus fully blows over. The baht is getting hammered at the moment and the trend might continue. So waiting is a good idea. ".
This is only for informational purposes only. I do not want to open a debate or argument on this situation. Take it for what it is worth.Informational purposes? But you said the baht is getting hammered at the moment. How is that? Please elaborate on your information.
And who would stay away at a time like this? The papers are reporting that since Chinese people are not coming, prices have fallen and more focus is on foreingers that are not Chinese. So you recommend waiting until the Chinese return and prices go back up, and the Thais go back to not giving a shit about other foreigners?
https://www.pattayamail.com/featured/forgotten-tourists-enjoying-chinese-free-pattaya-287400
PirateMorgan
02-10-20, 20:36
Rodwint2. Gave an opinion. Said as much. And it was logical well thought out and well written. Mr. International blustered arguments against everything Rodwin2 said. Mr. International then should just come and go as he pleases. Quietly.
Member #4698
02-10-20, 21:34
Rodwint2. Gave an opinion. Said as much. And it was logical well thought out and well written. Mr. International blustered arguments against everything Rodwin2 said. Mr. International then should just come and go as he pleases. Quietly.You are absolutely right that Rodwint2 gave an opinion. As such, Mr E is entirely in his right to give some contrary facts and an opposing opinion. The hole in Rodwint2's case appears to be his assumption and inference: that there is some kind of Thai cover up of the actual number of new cases reported in LOS.
"There seemed to be little activity reported there in terms of infections when every other near by country is reporting increased infections every day or so."
Maybe there is little recorded new activity in Thailand because there is little new activity to record.
My Opinion:
I am guardedly optimistic and I am still planning on going to LOS unless the Bat Virus gets out of control in Japan & Thailand in which case I am sure my flight will be cancelled. My flight is scheduled for late April. I have no contingency back up plan although I could very easily change my travel plans with a couple of hours notice and hit Sao Paulo, Brazil instead. It has been over 10 years since I was last in Brazil. I don't like the culture as much as SE Asia, but the girls are amazing. Maybe it is time for a change. Ha Ha.
On the plus side of going to Thailand in the wake of this virus: I expect the plane will be half full, the girls to be at their most welcoming, and I have no problem with being quarantined in BKK or Pattaya should something happen after I arrive.
You are absolutely right that Rodwint2 gave an opinion. As such, Mr E is entirely in his right to give some contrary facts and an opposing opinion. The hole in Rodwint2's case appears to be his assumption and inference: that there is some kind of Thai cover up of the actual number of new cases reported in LOS.
"There seemed to be little activity reported there in terms of infections when every other near by country is reporting increased infections every day or so."
Maybe there is little recorded new activity in Thailand because there is little new activity to record.
My Opinion:
I am guardedly optimistic and I am still planning on going to LOS unless the Bat Virus gets out of control in Japan & Thailand in which case I am sure my flight will be cancelled. My flight is scheduled for late April. I have no contingency back up plan although I could very easily change my travel plans with a couple of hours notice and hit Sao Paulo, Brazil instead. It has been over 10 years since I was last in Brazil. I don't like the culture as much as SE Asia, but the girls are amazing. Maybe it is time for a change. Ha Ha.
On the plus side of going to Thailand in the wake of this virus: I expect the plane will be half full, the girls to be at their most welcoming, and I have no problem with being quarantined in BKK or Pattaya should something happen after I arrive.I respect NB's opinion, but the point I was trying to make was that there seemed to be an under reporting by the Thai government of the actual cases. Whether it is intentional by the government or just plain incompetence on the part of the agencies responsible for the health of the Thai people, my query to my friend was answered in a round about way in by my friend in his response that the Thai government was more concerned about angering China and the money it represents, than with the health of the people they govern. Both my friend and I are retired financial executives and our experience and knowledge in these areas exceeds the normal monger on this forum regarding reading the financial tea leaves in this situation.
After just watching the Sky News coverage of the one Briton who caught the virus in Singapore and spread it to France and Brighton in the UK, that "Typhoid Mary" has infected at least 11 people since being infected on January 21. So this is a very contagious virus that can be passed on when the infected person does not show any signs of illness, asymptomatic transmission. The cruise ship quarantined in Yokohama, Japan started with only 10 infections 6 days ago and now has 136 infected today. This is not the flu. There is no vaccine. There is no antibodies that can fight a virus that the human body has never encountered. Please do not take this situation lightly.
...............After just watching the Sky News coverage of the one Briton who caught the virus in Singapore and spread it to France and Brighton in the UK, that "Typhoid Mary" has infected at least 11 people since being infected on January 21. So this is a very contagious virus that can be passed on when the infected person does not show any signs of illness, asymptomatic transmission. The cruise ship quarantined in Yokohama, Japan started with only 10 infections 6 days ago and now has 136 infected today. This is not the flu. There is no vaccine. There is no antibodies that can fight a virus that the human body has never encountered. Please do not take this situation lightly.The numbers of dead have already surpassed SARS in such a short span of time. This is very scary.
............ I could very easily change my travel plans with a couple of hours notice and hit Sao Paulo, Brazil instead. It has been over 10 years since I was last in Brazil. I don't like the culture as much as SE Asia, but the girls are amazing. Maybe it is time for a change. Ha Ha.................You're not safe anywhere. https://www.rt.com/news/480495-virus-unknown-origin-brazil/.
How does being quarantined work? I am in phuket now and depend on restaurants for meals. Would cafes shut down in a quaratine?
You are absolutely right that Rodwint2 gave an opinion. As such, Mr E is entirely in his right to give some contrary facts and an opposing opinion....
On the plus side of going to Thailand in the wake of this virus: I expect the plane will be half full, the girls to be at their most welcoming, and I have no problem with being quarantined in BKK or Pattaya should something happen after I arrive.
The numbers of dead have already surpassed SARS in such a short span of time. This is very scary.Yeah I would stay home and hide in your closet.
Meanwhile in other news.
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Mr Enternational
02-11-20, 04:05
How does being quarantined work? I am in phuket now and depend on restaurants for meals. Would cafes shut down in a quaratine?LOL. No. You would shut down. Because they would have you somewhere by your damn self. It is like jail. Well the solitary confinement part of jail, not the part where you get to hang out with other prisoners.
I meant more if they close down a city or try to limit movement. If phuket were to become highly contagious how would they deal with tourists who don't have the things needed to stay at hotel and not go out. I would want to head home but question if that would be possible or if flights would be cancelled.
LOL. No. You would shut down. Because they would have you somewhere by your damn self. It is like jail. Well the solitary confinement part of jail, not the part where you get to hang out with other prisoners.
I meant more if they close down a city or try to limit movement. If phuket were to become highly contagious how would they deal with tourists who don't have the things needed to stay at hotel and not go out. I would want to head home but question if that would be possible or if flights would be cancelled.If there was an explosion of cases in any city in Thailand, the entire country would be cut off from the rest of the world. In other words, no one would be allowed to leave or enter Thailand at that point. Much like how China is being treated by the rest of the world now. No planes would be allowed out or in to the airports unless to evacuate citizens of a specific country. Possibly, the larger nations like the US, UK and Japan would arrange for evacuation flights, subject to quarantine upon arrival as they did with the Hubei evacuees. If your country was Mexico or Greece, you may be SOL. If you think you will be partying with all the girls in BKK, take a look at Hubei now and you will not see a sea of happy faces.
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