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Mr Enternational
03-09-23, 09:57
On some FIWFANS there is reference to an up charge for size above 53 or 54. It's not centimeters obviously so what unit of measurement is being referenced.It is the diameter of the condom in millimeters. For the most part, when chicks talk about the size of a guys dick, they are talking in diameter, not length.
HorseTrader
03-09-23, 10:25
On some FIWFANS there is reference to an up charge for size above 53 or 54. It's not centimeters obviously so what unit of measurement is being referenced.Likely is related to condom size. If I recall, condom size is half the circumference in mm before it is stretched. Lay condom out and measure the width in mm, if I recall, that is the condom size. I’m too lazy to look it up now.
On some FIWFANS there is reference to an up charge for size above 53 or 54. It's not centimeters obviously so what unit of measurement is being referenced.Age or penis size? But then in which units?
On some FIWFANS there is reference to an up charge for size above 53 or 54. It's not centimeters obviously so what unit of measurement is being referenced.It is indeed related to the size of the condom. Japanese condoms quote their size. Regular is 54 mm and large is 58 mm. So basically if you ask for a large one, you'll be slapped the large penis size. Which I assume no guy will complain about.
https://www.condomjungle.com/blog/condom-size-chart/
Quote:
What size condom do I need?
There is a simple way to find out what size condom you need by gauging your manhood in a snap.
All that you need is a toilet paper roll.
Got it?
Drum roll, please.
Here we go.
Slip the toilet paper roll onto your penis (I assume fully erect):
What size condom do I need?
(A) If there’s extra room you most likely need - Small (S) A.K.A. Snugger Fit
(B) If the fit is just about right, you should start with - Medium (M) A.K.A. Standard or Regular
(C) If it’s too tight or you can’t even come close to putting it on, you need to look at - Large (L) or Extra Large (XL) or XXL
A: 52 or less
B: approx 54
B: more than 54
...Now please excuse me I need to find a toilet paper roll
What size condom do I need?
There is a simple way to find out what size condom you need by gauging your manhood in a snap.
All that you need is a toilet paper roll.
Got it?
Drum roll, please.
Here we go.
Slip the toilet paper roll onto your penis (I assume fully erect):
What size condom do I need?
(A) If theres extra room you most likely need - Small (S) A.K.A. Snugger Fit
(B) If the fit is just about right, you should start with - Medium (M) A.K.A. Standard or Regular
(C) If its too tight or you cant even come close to putting it on, you need to look at - Large (L) or Extra Large (XL) or XXL
A: 52 or less
B: approx 54
B: more than 54
I'm wondering if all toilet paper rolls in the world have the same diameter.
Probably not, so I might have a micro penis in the USA, and a giant cock in Japan, LOL.
Explorer8939
03-12-23, 14:05
I'm getting 3 things from your post:
1. Some Thai ladies over 40 have no sex drive;.
2. Some older Thai ladies prefer Thai man to farang; and
3. Some older Thai ladies have a very strong sex drive.Sex drive in relation to Farang husband = 0.
Sex drive in relation to Thai boyfriend = 100.
That's what keep bars in the Darkside open, frustrated Farangs have to barfine ladies in bars, while their Thai wives go see their kik.
Mongoose312
03-12-23, 19:15
What city has the best looking girls. Just based off looks. I originally thought Bangkok, but my friends say Pattaya and Phuket. I've never been there but see more venues and places in bkk. I'm going to Thailand soon. I get mixed answers so I thought why not ask the pros.(I assume we are talking about working girls here) -IMO Bangkok and Phuket- but I prefer Pattaya because it's much better value + user friendly. Phuket, especially, is a ripoff.
Mongoose312
03-12-23, 19:18
Never used Thai Friendly but I know others on here have. A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in a bar in Hua Hin and was talking to a lady who uses Thai Friendly. It was hilarious as she showed me on her phone some of the profiles guys put up, and then told stories of some of the losers she has had dealings with. She is not a freelancer but is looking for a sugar daddy.ThaiFriendly has really changed the game- in many ways for the better. It puts more power in the hands of the girl because it makes freelancing easier and makes the girls less dependent on the bars / mamasans. If you dislike bars and want to cut to the chase- it give you better options as well. The downside is that now bargirls are more likely to not go with customers and act like drink-queens.
Tvataham274
03-20-23, 15:58
Howdy folks. I have just a general vague question. On making a rough outline of my second trip, I am musing on the part of staying in BKK for a day or two to test the waters.
What I really want to do is a genuine nuru massage, with oil on an inflated mat. However, I'm unsure of if the 'nuru massage' places in BKK are just another name for the same kind of soapies in Pattaya.
Do any of the nuru places in BKK actually use oil for the nuru? Do they have the main course on the mat with the oil, or is it just another term for a soapy massage?
Currently I have on my list, Tulip massage, Annies massage (those two as they have dedicated threads here), but also Heaven Nuru and Doki Doki.
I'd rather not complicate my trip with a stop in BKK if what they have can be gotten at one of the Honey massages in Pattaya.
Mr Enternational
03-20-23, 17:11
Howdy folks. I have just a general vague question. On making a rough outline of my second trip, I am musing on the part of staying in BKK for a day or two to test the waters.
What I really want to do is a genuine nuru massage, with oil on an inflated mat. However, I'm unsure of if the 'nuru massage' places in BKK are just another name for the same kind of soapies in Pattaya.
I went to a nuru chick in Peru. I waited for the nuru but it never happened. Or so I thought. At the end I questioned the chick about the gel (as I had read on this site, but now you are saying oil.) She said all nuru means is body to body. She did it with baby powder. So I guess nuru (body to body) can be done with soap, lotion, powder, oil, gel, nothing, or anything.
Banana Boi
03-20-23, 18:20
Predicting things go according to election polls, what will a new Pheu Thai party formed government mean for the sex industry in Thailand? Is this a good or bad thing?
As for Nuru, Mr. E is correct. In Japan, all Nuru means is body to body with some sort of lubricant whether it be powder, oil, soap, etc.
Tvataham274
03-20-23, 19:44
Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying Gents. Now the only thing I need to look at is which, if any places in BKK do the sexy time with the body to body time. My two visits to Honey2 were, unremarkable to say the least, in retrospect.
Howdy folks. I have just a general vague question. On making a rough outline of my second trip, I am musing on the part of staying in BKK for a day or two to test the waters.
What I really want to do is a genuine nuru massage, with oil on an inflated mat. However, I'm unsure of if the 'nuru massage' places in BKK are just another name for the same kind of soapies in Pattaya.
Do any of the nuru places in BKK actually use oil for the nuru? Do they have the main course on the mat with the oil, or is it just another term for a soapy massage?
Currently I have on my list, Tulip massage, Annies massage (those two as they have dedicated threads here), but also Heaven Nuru and Doki Doki.
I'd rather not complicate my trip with a stop in BKK if what they have can be gotten at one of the Honey massages in Pattaya.A genuine Nuru massage is most definitely not just another name for a soapy massage. For a start they don't use oil; a genuine Nuru place will use a specific Nuru gel from Japan (made from a Japanese seaweed). The lady will cover you and herself with the Nuru gel and then use her body to massage every inch (literally) of you. This usually involves a catbath and rimming. The main course can then be had on the mat or move to the bed, up to you. It is more expensive than a normal 'oily' or 'soapy' massage and is not to everyone's taste, but in Bangkok among the well known places are Soap / Mitu, Kokoro, and Doki Doki.
Explorer8939
03-26-23, 03:10
In Suvarnaphumi airport now. The traffic is unbelievable, the lines are much longer than before Covid.
Sex drive in relation to Farang husband = 0.
Sex drive in relation to Thai boyfriend = 100.
That's what keep bars in the Darkside open, frustrated Farangs have to barfine ladies in bars, while their Thai wives go see their kik.I'm a Farang with a MILF / mature fetish sometimes. I text random Thai women 45+ on Thaifriendly if they want to have fun. There's always 1-2 that are keen to meet. Some more if I would be ok meeting at my place or a hotel (these days I prefer to go to their place which many simply don't have). I'm talking about pure sex dates here, no money exchanged. The few times I take them to a hotel I would pay the 400 Baht for the hotel.
Some of them are super horny. Some of them didn't have sex for years and are pretty inexperienced (had a Thai husband their whole life, got divorced and stayed single or hoping for a while, and are now hitting the dating apps).
In Suvarnaphumi airport now. The traffic is unbelievable, the lines are much longer than before Covid.We get it, Thailand and Pattaya are packed with tourists.
Explorer8939
03-29-23, 10:52
I'm a Farang with a MILF / mature fetish sometimes. I text random Thai women 45+ on Thaifriendly if they want to have fun. There's always 1-2 that are keen to meet. Some more if I would be ok meeting at my place or a hotel (these days I prefer to go to their place which many simply don't have). I'm talking about pure sex dates here, no money exchanged. The few times I take them to a hotel I would pay the 400 Baht for the hotel.
Some of them are super horny. Some of them didn't have sex for years and are pretty inexperienced (had a Thai husband their whole life, got divorced and stayed single or hoping for a while, and are now hitting the dating apps).Yep.
Older Thai ladies will play the odds, hoping to catch a Farang husband.
Their horniness disappears 5 minutes after marriage starts. Except when they have a chance to spend time with their kik.
Explorer8939
03-29-23, 10:59
Some guys like to bar fine ladies for a week or more. It's not recommended, but it is done. There are a lot of traps if you go with a lady for 3+ days, mostly from the lady not being able to live with a stranger for very long.
One downside is caused by the extended families in Thailand. The longer you go with a lady, the greater the chance a family member will go to the hospital and / or die. Which means the lady will be on the telephone constantly discussing the incident and the funeral.
In my situation, it was a 13 year old cousin killed driving a motorcycle in Bangkok.
I have had ladies lose relatives via automotive suicide and the usual old age diseases.
Some guys like to bar fine ladies for a week or more. It's not recommended, but it is done. There are a lot of traps if you go with a lady for 3+ days, mostly from the lady not being able to live with a stranger for very long.
One downside is caused by the extended families in Thailand. The longer you go with a lady, the greater the chance a family member will go to the hospital and / or die. Which means the lady will be on the telephone constantly discussing the incident and the funeral.
In my situation, it was a 13 year old cousin killed driving a motorcycle in Bangkok.
I have had ladies lose relatives via automotive suicide and the usual old age diseases.Good summary. I also learned to avoid oldest sisters with no brothers. If mom and dad are dead then they run the family. The family drama is multiplied.
... It is very common for Thai women to hit peak horniness around age 40...In my experience, peak horniness for women is around age 19. Many women also have another top as they approach menopause (larger share of male hormones + a feeling that time is running out) and then it drops off. In addition, the excitement of any sexual relationship starts declining pretty fast. It is always more exciting to have sex with new people, both for men and women. To me it sounds like it is a mixture of these things you are picking up, rather than something specific to Thai women.
RakSopheni
03-29-23, 23:10
I'm a Farang with a MILF / mature fetish sometimes. I text random Thai women 45+ on Thaifriendly if they want to have fun. There's always 1-2 that are keen to meet. Some more if I would be ok meeting at my place or a hotel (these days I prefer to go to their place which many simply don't have). I'm talking about pure sex dates here, no money exchanged. The few times I take them to a hotel I would pay the 400 Baht for the hotel.
Some of them are super horny. Some of them didn't have sex for years and are pretty inexperienced (had a Thai husband their whole life, got divorced and stayed single or hoping for a while, and are now hitting the dating apps).This is a really interesting post. Unusual to hear about this demographic of women and the fact that it's not P4 P. Are you able to find any ladies that still have decent physiques?
I always wonder how men in SEA can get aroused for older ladies knowing that it's so easy to find a younger women working girl, but many seem to find the arousal. Married men will say that it's also about feelings for the lady- but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Tell us more.
Explorer8939
03-30-23, 01:45
In my experience, peak horniness for women is around age 19. Many women also have another top as they approach menopause (larger share of male hormones + a feeling that time is running out) and then it drops off. In addition, the excitement of any sexual relationship starts declining pretty fast. It is always more exciting to have sex with new people, both for men and women. To me it sounds like it is a mixture of these things you are picking up, rather than something specific to Thai women.Don't confuse capability with horniness for a 19 year old. The younger ladies work Soi 6 in Pattaya because they can take 5 customers a day, every day. Even if an older woman could attract that many customers, she can't handle them, day in, day out.
If you observe younger women carefully, you will find that the clitorus is not fully developed in many. Touching the clit results in a ticklish feeling. This also means that they don't cum. When they get older, then the clit develops, and what was once a job becomes an adventure.
Explorer8939
03-30-23, 02:01
This is a really interesting post. Unusual to hear about this demographic of women and the fact that it's not P4 P. Are you able to find any ladies that still have decent physiques?
I always wonder how men in SEA can get aroused for older ladies knowing that it's so easy to find a younger women working girl, but many seem to find the arousal. Married men will say that it's also about feelings for the lady- but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Tell us more.I have run into a couple of attractive mamasans in their 40's who normally go with very young guys (one has 2 Farang 30 years olds).
The problem is that their sexual appetites are similar to Farang women: they want to cum, which means they finish first. So, their Farang boyfriends have to go for a long time. Or, in the case of young Thai men, fuck once, finish, reload, do again until the lady finishes.
I didn't sign up for that.
But, most older Thai ladies are very happy to have you cum quickly so they can think about how they are going to spend the money you give them.
The down side of most older Thai ladies is zero muscle tone. They may have a nice looking assessment, but it almost feels like jello. One lady I know went from a firm ass at age 35 to jello at age 40.
Explorer8939
03-31-23, 01:01
I returned to Thailand from Vietnam yesterday.
Suvarnaphumi Immigration was not crowded at all.
So, the big crush the other day was people leaving Thailand, but not so many entering Thailand now.
RakSopheni
03-31-23, 18:23
Does anyone know if the 45 day Visa on Arrival that was set to expire today, March 31 was extended to the end of 2023 as promised?
HorseTrader
03-31-23, 20:44
Does anyone know if the 45 day Visa on Arrival that was set to expire today, March 31 was extended to the end of 2023 as promised?Per TheThaiger, no decision has been made as of a couple days ago. See 7:08 of the linked video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEMWlleRNQQ
I don't think there was ever any promise to extend it, it was just a proposal by TAT.
Crocodilexp
03-31-23, 20:48
Predicting things go according to election polls, what will a new Pheu Thai party formed government mean for the sex industry in Thailand? Is this a good or bad thing?The military won't allow them to form a government, even if they win.
If they Pheu Thai do get power again, recall that it's Thaksin who started the first major crackdown on nightlife, back around 2002 or so. Limiting hours on bars, closing almost all the brothels up north (there were hundreds), all that jazz. He's very anti-nightlife, and those policies tend to be popular with most Thais, so others sometimes copy them too. So, no good news expected on that front. Sex industry is in decline and has lost most of its clout over the politicians over the years, so it doesn't make too much sense for any political option to support them.
Banana Boi
04-01-23, 18:28
Does anyone know if the 45 day Visa on Arrival that was set to expire today, March 31 was extended to the end of 2023 as promised?45 days is no more. 30 days only moving forward. You can still extend your 30 days to 60 days.
Can I go to the immigration office and get another 30 days after the 60? Are visa runs still a thing? Thanks for a why answers.
45 days is no more. 30 days only moving forward. You can still extend your 30 days to 60 days.
GuyBrusg1957
04-04-23, 02:59
I am confused as well. I am an American but I think you have to get a Tourist E-Visa with single entries if you want to stay longer than 30 days. How strict is Thailand with Visa requirements? I don't know the hotels and exact flights I will be using.
WanderingMan
04-04-23, 03:32
I (city boy) travel with a friend (country boy). We are both disillusioned with the Dominican Republic at this point and want a new destination. We arrive BKK in mid-November about midnight and plan to stay in Bangkok for a few days before heading to Pattaya. He plans to have a female meet him in Bangkok for a couple of the days (he's been writing her for years online). Currently the plan includes staying in BKK for four days (including the first late night arrival) followed by a trip to Pattaya for six days (short trip but we both work). For those who have traveled to Thailand, would you recommend the split of time? Thanks for your input.
I (city boy) travel with a friend (country boy). We are both disillusioned with the Dominican Republic at this point and want a new destination. We arrive BKK in mid-November about midnight and plan to stay in Bangkok for a few days before heading to Pattaya. He plans to have a female meet him in Bangkok for a couple of the days (he's been writing her for years online). Currently the plan includes staying in BKK for four days (including the first late night arrival) followed by a trip to Pattaya for six days (short trip but we both work). For those who have traveled to Thailand, would you recommend the split of time? Thanks for your input.I suspect that you two are going to split. He will stay with his new found girlfriend and you will discover LOS all alone.
3+1 night in bkk are sufficient to get a feeling and 6 nights in Pattaya will be a good immersion. The other way around if you look at the "tourist stuff", ie daytime activities to do some sightseeing.
WanderingMan
04-04-23, 04:29
I suspect that you two are going to split. He will stay with his new found girlfriend and you will discover LOS all alone.
3+1 night in bkk are sufficient to get a feeling and 6 nights in Pattaya will be a good immersion. The other way around if you look at the "tourist stuff", ie daytime activities to do some sightseeing.Thank you for your comments. He is flying her into BKK and out a couple days later from Cebu, PI. He simply didn't want to fly to BKK and then visit the PI at a later time, so killing two birds with one stone. If he does choose to stay with her and extend her flight back to the PI, great. It isn't planned that way though. That said, we all know what can happen to the best laid plans. Thanks again.
RakSopheni
04-04-23, 04:46
I am confused as well. I am an American but I think you have to get a Tourist E-Visa with single entries if you want to stay longer than 30 days. How strict is Thailand with Visa requirements? I don't know the hotels and exact flights I will be using.You don't need an e-visa. As an American you get an automatic 30 day exemption extendable to 60 days. Then just do a visa run and come right back in for another 30. This article explains how to do it in Pattaya: https://pattayasanook.com/extending-thai-tourist-visa-pattaya-jomtien/.
Banana Boi
04-04-23, 05:24
For any Visa questions you really should go to one of the Visa forums like Thaiger Talk or Asean Now rather than obtain your information from a sex board. It's not something you want to get wrong. Ask any question on either of these 2 forums and you will get an accurate reply within a day. The Moderators on these board are active and always correct. I only trust their answers and not the other yahoos on the board. Same goes for all online boards. Learn who knows what they are actually talking about.
This would be a good current thread to ask the questions that have been asked below. https://aseannow.com/topic/1291077-thailand-reverses-visa-policy-for-tourists-from-60-countries/?utm_campaign=NL&utm_medium=email&utm_source=NL.
HorseTrader
04-04-23, 19:41
You don't need an e-visa. As an American you get an automatic 30 day exemption extendable to 60 days. Then just do a visa run and come right back in for another 30. This article explains how to do it in Pattaya: https://pattayasanook.com/extending-thai-tourist-visa-pattaya-jomtien/.E-Visa is pretty easy to get and it only costs about $40 USD. That avoids the headaches of your first 30 day extension.
RakSopheni
04-05-23, 02:09
E-Visa is pretty easy to get and it only costs about $40 USD. That avoids the headaches of your first 30 day extension.I went ahead and got (applied) for one. Wasn't too difficult. The most annoying thing was making all the jpgs and pdfs of scanned pages of my passport travel over the last year and the uploading of all proofs of booking. If you're good with that's stuff should go quick.
HorseTrader
04-05-23, 05:20
I went ahead and got (applied) for one. Wasn't too difficult. The most annoying thing was making all the jpgs and pdfs of scanned pages of my passport travel over the last year and the uploading of all proofs of booking. If you're good with that's stuff should go quick.I've gotten 3 E-Visas and there has only been one problem. You need to take a selfie and I consistently get an automated warning that says it appears there is more than one person in the picture. I'd retake the picture many times with different shirt and totally bland background and I still get the same automated warning. I submit that picture and visa gets approved without problem.
I definitely encourage using the E-Visa for those staying longer than 30 days.
Banana Boi
04-05-23, 06:09
Is anyone here using the Thailand Elite Visa? Just want to know how smooth it is entering and exiting Thailand as often as you want. Do you really get priority with zero wait time or questions? I'm considering just doing that.
If so and you don't want others to know you can PM me.
45 days is no more. 30 days only moving forward. You can still extend your 30 days to 60 days.That's a pity. Was hoping they'd extend so I would not have to spend half a day at that mall in Bangkok again this summer, though it does make it extra tempting to spend some days eating sushi in Japan and reset the Thai-counter at the same time.
A tip for others doing the extension: there's a more than decent gym on the same floor with reasonable day-pass prices.
Explorer8939
04-06-23, 01:58
For those guys with girlfriends back in Pattaya, remember that even if you send them money, they still look for men, whether a Farang boyfriend or Thai boy.
My rule is not fuck bargirls who have a real Farang boyfriend. It takes a lot of Tequila for a lady to be able to give a truthful answer. If they admit that their Farang is just a customer, they get fucked.
I had a silicon enhanced MILF over last night, she has a real boyfriend. You can tell when a lady has a real committment to her boyfriend, but once the tequila hit, it was full time complaints about her boyfriend and how she wants to leave him. But, I still didn't fuck her, even after she told me she wanted to go to Singapore with me.
ZenMinded1
04-07-23, 06:18
I'm on my 3rd set of antibiotics in about 12 months, and while previous were a precaution recommended by doc after seeing negative results from urine tests, this time nicely positive for both gonorrhea and clam. Less than fantastic times right now, but looking back at all the barebacks I'd say worth it.
But for real gents. How do you manage and / or protect from this (I'm in BKK but applicable in general, hence posting in General)? Both can be transmitted through blowjobs too, even if I wear a hoodie for the FS. Always a hoodie? No BJs? Life without BJs or CBJs. I think I prefer occasional antibios.
Heard an old folks tale of peeing and washing up with soap shortly after the deed and well. It's an old folks tale, reconfirming here.
Tvataham274
04-07-23, 13:43
Heard an old folks tale of peeing and washing up with soap shortly after the deed and well. It's an old folks tale, reconfirming here.With PREP and a doctor able to write a script for antibiotics, this is the way. There's a reason that nature wants you to flush the pipes after the waterworks.
HorseTrader
04-07-23, 18:10
Heard an old folks tale of peeing and washing up with soap shortly after the deed and well. It's an old folks tale, reconfirming here.I just finished several weeks mongering in Thailand and that is what I did after many BBFS sessions. About midway through my trip I had some penis pain which was likely due to too much rough sex with girl on top and insufficient hardness. No dripping and no pain while urinating. Nevertheless, I took 1000 MG of Azithromycin and abstained for about 36 hours and the pain disappeared. Upon my return home I had extensive STD testing and everything was negative.
I certainly don't know how effective the "wash and pee" routine is, but it worked for me.
Tvataham274
04-07-23, 23:05
Rather I should say, the piss and wipe should be done for no reason other than to clean yourself.
When you shit, you wipe. Do you need to wipe? Technically speaking, no, you don't. But you are overall much cleaner and healthier if you do wipe (and later shower) than if you don't.
Mr Enternational
04-07-23, 23:18
I'm on my 3rd set of antibiotics in about 12 months, and while previous were a precaution recommended by doc after seeing negative results from urine tests, this time nicely positive for both gonorrhea and clam.
But for real gents. How do you manage and / or protect from this (I'm in BKK but applicable in general, hence posting in General)? The real question is where are you getting these infected chicks from?
Transporter
04-08-23, 04:53
Going to want to be careful with antibiotics. After a while it won't work and you will need to rotate to others. After a while you run out of antibiotics that work. Shots and IV work better than oral, but no worries looks like you are headed there anyway. Stay safe.
Coolie High
04-08-23, 13:35
I'm on my 3rd set of antibiotics in about 12 months, and while previous were a precaution recommended by doc after seeing negative results from urine tests, this time nicely positive for both gonorrhea and clam. Less than fantastic times right now, but looking back at all the barebacks I'd say worth it.
But for real gents. How do you manage and / or protect from this (I'm in BKK but applicable in general, hence posting in General)? Both can be transmitted through blowjobs too, even if I wear a hoodie for the FS. Always a hoodie? No BJs? Life without BJs or CBJs. I think I prefer occasional antibios.
Heard an old folks tale of peeing and washing up with soap shortly after the deed and well. It's an old folks tale, reconfirming here.Yeah I sure hope you're jesting about it being worth it. 3rd set of antibiotics in a year is past insanity. But to help answer your question here's some of things I do to help avoid future craping out on your dick. Because as you know we all put our dick on the line and roll the dice when smashing new pussy BUT you should ALWAYS be hedging your bet for a great outcome and watching the percentages.
Lets talk Hedging Your Bet for a Great Outcome which is NO std!!
Ima be a little graphic like my man Kevin Samuels but it needs to addressed. 1st cleanliness is paramount. Especially BEFORE sex. So wash your ass. No seriously get in your ass and get those dingle berries out of it. Soap up and around you private areas extensively and if you're uncircumcised, pull your foreskin back and clean it throughly. Because if you do not then bacteria will build up from within. The reason why you should be clean down there before sex is because it helps mitagate any bacteria and dirt on your end which helps.
Next up I highly recommend that you do NOT do what the pornstars do and shave all your pubic hair that makes you look like a 5 yr kid, rocking a care bear lunch box. Having pubic hair is actually protection for your private area so I suggest keeping it nice and neat but do NOT shave it all off. Also be aware of when you're doing your man-scaping. When you're using clippers to keep the balls nice and smooth so the ladies don't cough up a hairball while she's licking them, you may incidentally have made a small cut on your self. Nothing major but it broke the skin barrier, which will cause you to bleed easy and be more easily acceptable to dieases. My advice is if you're about to go Caligula and have your fun with the hunnys and you need a shape up down there, that atleast 3 days PRIOR you do your manscaping. That way any small knicks from it should be healed up by then.
Now the aftermath. You found a new hunny dip and you went raw dogg and busted deep in the pussy. AMAZING feeling aint it. That "Kenja taimu" as my Japanese brothers would call it, aka that post nut clarity. Feels so good that you want to take a quick nap. And this is where hedging your bet for a great outcome will be critical. DO NOT lay and fall asleep into the pussy afterwards. I repeat DO NOT lay and fall asleep into the pussy. You could be lying in a cess pool of vineral dieases and not even know it. So immediately after you've achieved your Kenja taimu, get your ass up, take a piss (that does helps ALOT) and get into the shower. Fuck a bird bath like some of theses ladies do, you get your grown ass in the shower and "extensively" wash your private areas again. After you dry off get some "rubbing alcohol" and splash on your dick and private areas. Yeah I know it going to sting and sounds crazy but my great uncle that was slanging dick before both of us was born put me on game in using rubbing alcohol afterwards and I got to say it helped as I dodge more bullets then Neo in the Matrix. So yeah buy some rubbing alcohol and some flushable wipeits.
Cool, so now your privates are fresh and clean again which increases your odds of not getting infected. So now you finally take that nap. Next thing you know the hunny dip wakes up ol king cobra with him in her mouth then proceeds to put on her cowgirl hat and ride you like a wild stallion. YEE-HAW!! Great times indeed. So what do you do afterwards. Thats right, you go and wash your private areas extensively again. EVERYTIME you fuck this NEW chick, that you do NOT know, RAW dog, you go and wash up afterwards. And yes you put on that rubbing alcohol in the end. Now I know what you're saying, this is alot just to increase your odds of NOT getting infected because nothings guaranteed. But I invite you to hold your dick as you read this and take a hard look at him. We only get one so cherish it more then gold, diamonds and pearls. Its the architect of starting wars and creating familys. So look at it and make the commitment in taking care of your manhood proper and I guarantee youll land on lucky 7 more times then craping out.
P.S. Was going to write another segment on "watching the percentages with the ladies" and what you should bring at a BJ bar / casas etc but got tired of writing. If you, or anybody else want me to break it down more then just let me know.
Peace.
All about regular showering pre and post action. Good thing is Thai gals are generally the same. And the tip on post Bush trim is very very important; those tiny nicks are tiny doors just waiting for a bug to crawl in.
I'm loathe to slather rubbing alcohol on my block and tackle. I use sanitary wipes that became popular during the pandemic.
Any thoughts on the utility of post DATY mouthwash? Makes the mouth feel fresh but I doubt that it really kills off any chlamydia or herpes Ickes.
Yeah I sure hope you're jesting about it being worth it. 3rd set of antibiotics in a year is past insanity. But to help answer your question here's some of things I do to help avoid future craping out on your dick. Because as you know we all put our dick on the line and roll the dice when smashing new pussy BUT you should ALWAYS be hedging your bet for a great outcome and watching the percentages.
Lets talk Hedging Your Bet for a Great Outcome which is NO std!!
Ima be a little graphic like my man Kevin Samuels but it needs to addressed. 1st cleanliness is paramount. Especially BEFORE sex. So wash your ass. No seriously get in your ass and get those dingle berries out of it. Soap up and around you private areas extensively and if you're uncircumcised, pull your foreskin back and clean it throughly. Because if you do not then bacteria will build up from within. The reason why you should be clean down there before sex is because it helps mitagate any bacteria and dirt on your end which helps.
Next up I highly recommend that you do NOT do what the pornstars do and shave all your pubic hair that makes you look like a 5 yr kid, rocking a care bear lunch box. Having pubic hair is actually protection for your private area so I suggest keeping it nice and neat but do NOT shave it all off. Also be aware of when you're doing your man-scaping. When you're using clippers to keep the balls nice and smooth so the ladies don't cough up a hairball while she's licking them, you may incidentally have made a small cut on your self. Nothing major but it broke the skin barrier, which will cause you to bleed easy and be more easily acceptable to dieases. My advice is if you're about to go Caligula and have your fun with the hunnys and you need a shape up down there, that atleast 3 days PRIOR you do your manscaping. That way any small knicks from it should be healed up by then.
Now the aftermath. You found a new hunny dip and you went raw dogg and busted deep in the pussy. AMAZING feeling aint it. That "Kenja taimu" as my Japanese brothers would call it, aka that post nut clarity. Feels so good that you want to take a quick nap. And this is where hedging your bet for a great outcome will be critical. DO NOT lay and fall asleep into the pussy afterwards. I repeat DO NOT lay and fall asleep into the pussy. You could be lying in a cess pool of vineral dieases and not even know it. So immediately after you've achieved your Kenja taimu, get your ass up, take a piss (that does helps ALOT) and get into the shower. Fuck a bird bath like some of theses ladies do, you get your grown ass in the shower and "extensively" wash your private areas again. After you dry off get some "rubbing alcohol" and splash on your dick and private areas. Yeah I know it going to sting and sounds crazy but my great uncle that was slanging dick before both of us was born put me on game in using rubbing alcohol afterwards and I got to say it helped as I dodge more bullets then Neo in the Matrix. So yeah buy some rubbing alcohol and some flushable wipeits.
Cool, so now your privates are fresh and clean again which increases your odds of not getting infected. So now you finally take that nap. Next thing you know the hunny dip wakes up ol king cobra with him in her mouth then proceeds to put on her cowgirl hat and ride you like a wild stallion. YEE-HAW!! Great times indeed. So what do you do afterwards. Thats right, you go and wash your private areas extensively again. EVERYTIME you fuck this NEW chick, that you do NOT know, RAW dog, you go and wash up afterwards. And yes you put on that rubbing alcohol in the end. Now I know what you're saying, this is alot just to increase your odds of NOT getting infected because nothings guaranteed. But I invite you to hold your dick as you read this and take a hard look at him. We only get one so cherish it more then gold, diamonds and pearls. Its the architect of starting wars and creating familys. So look at it and make the commitment in taking care of your manhood proper and I guarantee youll land on lucky 7 more times then craping out.
P.S. Was going to write another segment on "watching the percentages with the ladies" and what you should bring at a BJ bar / casas etc but got tired of writing. If you, or anybody else want me to break it down more then just let me know.
Peace.
ZenMinded1
04-08-23, 15:11
Well thanks gents, this certainly got some attention.
When I monger I monger. If a girl is ok raw, I go in raw, if she says ok cum inside I cum inside. Never forcing anything, always wondering a bit on what i'm doing is smart - of course it's fucking stupid and risky, that's part of why i like doing it, breaking all the rules. It goes without much talk between me and the lady that what we're doing is non-repeatable, I'm perfectly aware of all the risks, pickup chicks from gogos, street, fiwfans, wherever (of course. Not all want to go raw). I do pee and wash off after but something certainly walked in OR was there for a longer time and now got active as my immunity system dropped due to unrelated issue.
The rubbing alcohol thing is interesting, thanks for that, as is PREP. But it seems to me that this remains one of the side-effects of mongering, so what to do. Yes keen to hear about what to bring to BJ bars and what to do for DATY as I'm a big fan of both.
Last night banged a Tanzanian picked up on soi 4, in her room, still on antibios but interestingly this one only wanted kissing on the lips and CBJ and CFS which was perfectly fine for me in this particular instance (yes yes... i hear the OH NOOOOs from you but hey... sometimes a man wants a tequila bottle and sometimes just an orange juice, no?)
Thankfully, age is catching up with me. As my sex drive slowly decreases my enjoyment of just sitting in a bar sipping my drink while a nice lady plays with my privates over clothes keeps increasing.
Coolie High
04-09-23, 00:37
The rubbing alcohol thing is interesting, thanks for that, as is PREP. But it seems to me that this remains one of the side-effects of mongering, so what to do. Yes keen to hear about what to bring to BJ bars and what to do for DATY as I'm a big fan of both.
I'm loathe to slather rubbing alcohol on my block and tackle. I use sanitary wipes that became popular during the pandemic.
Any thoughts on the utility of post DATY mouthwash? Makes the mouth feel fresh but I doubt that it really kills off any chlamydia or herpes Ickes.Think about it gents, when you scrape a knee as a child what did your mom probably do, she put some alcohol on the area to make sure it didn't get "infected". I know it sounds crazy and it does sting like a moutha but I rather deal with that sting then that sting of when you can hardly pee because you now got the clap.
In regards to DATY using mouthwash as well as literally cleaning your lips and mustache and beard area of the face with soap afterwards is good as well but to be honest the best strategy in doing DATY is by watching the percentages. So what do I mean by that. The greater the chance a female is out there fucking any and every guy the greater the chance she picks up something and possibly pass it on to you. So a freelancing chick, bar girls there chance of fucking alot dudes are VERY high so because of that I'm NOT dining on southern cuisine (DATY) with those chicks until they get tested. And even then I'm still cautious because they have such a high body count. And before a man still takes that risk because he enjoys DATY and pleasing a women ask yourself, would you kiss a female at a BJ bar. Oooh HELL NO. So yeah don't do it.
Now females that are semi-pro that may work but is down to make money on the side is a judgment call. How she carries herself as a women, does she take pride in her looks and how she smell down there is a big indicator on if you should DATY or not. I know we all know this but SMELL is a huge indicator. If the pussy don't smell right abort going down on her. Matter of fact abort the whole raw dog operation as well. If you have to hold your nose while you're hitting it from the back that's a NO bueno.
And finally non-pros. They traditionally have the lowest probabilitiy so odds are in your favor but I still think you should make the judgment call with her like you would with semi-pros. The sure best way though to be in the clear is to just get her quickly tested. Pay the 40-60 dollar fee, youll get her results back in a couple days max and you can go scuba diving in the pussy for as long as you want. Side-note: when asking for a girl to get tested be prepared for her to return the same sentiment with her asking you to get tested as well.
In regards to BJ bar or casas where you can have sex at you should bring a small bottle of rubbing alcohol and some wipeits. Ooh and order a bottle of water alongside with your beer to help flush out your system. So after you skeet skeet in a girls mouth go to the bathroom and pee and then take the rubbing alcohol and splash it on your dick. Again I know its going to sting but man up. Then pour some alcohol on the wipeits and clean your shaft and private areas. If you plan to chill at the bar afterwards I recommend you drink another bottle of water to help flush out your system again. Now when you get home do NOT go to sleep. I don't care how drunk you are, hop in the shower real quick and put soap to your dick and private areas and you should be good to go.
BTW in regards to DATY if you accidentally bit your lip or have a small tear in your mouth wait until that heals before giving a lady pleasure.
Tvataham274
04-09-23, 18:14
True words of both wisdom, and common sense. Well said.
Honestly, should be common sense. Cleaning yourself promotes health. If it smells bad, don't lick it and don't put your dick in it.
True words of both wisdom, and common sense. Well said.
Honestly, should be common sense. Cleaning yourself promotes health. If it smells bad, don't lick it and don't put your dick in it.So true. If you don't do the sniff test before DATY you could be making a mistake. I was in a local massage joint yesterday (USA) and girl wanted me to DATY. I did the finger test / sniff and did not pass the so just stuck with happy ending.
Thai General Election is on May 14th, understand alcohol is banned from night of 13th until polls close on night of 14th?
I've also seen that there may be an early election day on 7th and same rules will apply with alcohol being banned from night of 6th?
6th is right in middle of my upcoming trip, might not be end of world as it gives me a nice break from boozing, but I'the prefer option. Anyone know if this is correct? Aware things can change often.
Apologies if this has already been asked, did a search but couldn't find anything relevant.
Thai General Election is on May 14th, understand alcohol is banned from night of 13th until polls close on night of 14th?
I've also seen that there may be an early election day on 7th and same rules will apply with alcohol being banned from night of 6th?
6th is right in middle of my upcoming trip, might not be end of world as it gives me a nice break from boozing, but I'the prefer option. Anyone know if this is correct? Aware things can change often.
Apologies if this has already been asked, did a search but couldn't find anything relevant.No drinking may mean no beer goggles and better performance.
Teltel.
Thai General Election is on May 14th, understand alcohol is banned from night of 13th until polls close on night of 14th?
I've also seen that there may be an early election day on 7th and same rules will apply with alcohol being banned from night of 6th?
6th is right in middle of my upcoming trip, might not be end of world as it gives me a nice break from boozing, but I'the prefer option. Anyone know if this is correct? Aware things can change often.
Apologies if this has already been asked, did a search but couldn't find anything relevant.Don't know the dates specifically but yeah this makes sense, some elections and certain holidays, no booze is supposed to be sold. Some places will just outright ignore the ban, others won't. I've always been able to find booze during dry days without much issue.
Explorer8939
04-14-23, 12:04
I try not to appear on photos that bargirls post on Facebook. Or in their video chats with other people.
And I advise bargirls to be careful what they post, if they have Farang sponsors. But most tell me their sponsor does not play Facebook, or they block him.
One lady who has a full time Farang customer posts photos of me on Facebook 2 or 3 times a week. She insists he never sees.
But I know some ladies who have lost sponsors due to careless posting. I certainly don't want to be the cause of a lady losing a sponsor.
Think about it gents, when you scrape a knee as a child what did your mom probably do, she put some alcohol on the area to make sure it didn't get "infected". I know it sounds crazy and it does sting like a moutha but I rather deal with that sting then that sting of when you can hardly pee because you now got the clap.
In regards to DATY using mouthwash as well as literally cleaning your lips and mustache and beard area of the face with soap afterwards is good as well but to be honest the best strategy in doing DATY is by watching the percentages. So what do I mean by that. The greater the chance a female is out there fucking any and every guy the greater the chance she picks up something and possibly pass it on to you. So a freelancing chick, bar girls there chance of fucking alot dudes are VERY high so because of that I'm NOT dining on southern cuisine (DATY) with those chicks until they get tested. And even then I'm still cautious because they have such a high body count. And before a man still takes that risk because he enjoys DATY and pleasing a women ask yourself, would you kiss a female at a BJ bar. Oooh HELL NO. So yeah don't do it..Would you say hand sanitizer is a viable rubbing alcohol substitute? Especially when you're not at your hotel and at a BJ bar or what have you.
Coolie High
04-17-23, 10:33
Would you say hand sanitizer is a viable rubbing alcohol substitute? Especially when you're not at your hotel and at a BJ bar or what have you.Naw I wouldn't recommend using hand sanitzer at all. Rubbing alcohol is used for "cleaning" and "disinfection" while hand sanitizes are used primarily for killing just microbes on hand.
Naw I wouldn't recommend using hand sanitzer at all. Rubbing alcohol is used for "cleaning" and "disinfection" while hand sanitizes are used primarily for killing just microbes on hand.I would agree but for different reasons. Rubbing alcohol is usually 70% isopropyl alcohol and the rest is distilled water. The hand sanitizer I have is 70% Ethyl alcohol and a whole list of other ingredients. The other added ingredients are mainly added to combat the drying effect alcohol has on the skin. But some have added perfumes to make it smell nice. So I would not put hand sanitizer on a sensitive area of the body or use it to treat a wound. You can always whisky or Tequila. They are mostly Ethyl alcohol and water.
AddictedToWomen
05-06-23, 12:45
I gather Thailand's become rather pricey post-covid? Any other places people are going in preference to get more bang for their buck?
Mr Enternational
05-06-23, 13:35
I gather Thailand's become rather pricey post-covid? Any other places people are going in preference to get more bang for their buck?How did you gather that? The only thing pricey is the gogo bars. And to me those have always been pricey. If you are not a gogo bar person then it is the same as it ever was. Except I used to be able to get chicks on Soi 6 for 700 plus the room; now they want 1000 plus the room. Still no problem fucking chicks in massage parlors for 500 or having them come over all night for 1000.
ZenMinded1
05-06-23, 17:16
How did you gather that? The only thing pricey is the gogo bars. And to me those have always been pricey. If you are not a gogo bar person then it is the same as it ever was. Except I used to be able to get chicks on Soi 6 for 700 plus the room; now they want 1000 plus the room. Still no problem fucking chicks in massage parlors for 500 or having them come over all night for 1000.Can you be a bit more specific on where in soi 6 and which massage parlors?
I got BBFS just yesterday for 1 k but that was Chiang Mai. In BKK across town I never got shop+BJ for less than 1 k, let alone FS.
Mr Enternational
05-06-23, 18:39
Can you be a bit more specific on where in soi 6 and which massage parlors?.Pattaya. No specific place. Soi 6 there are tons of fuck bars and throughout the city there are tons of massage places. Pick your poison.
I told my friend I doubt it but he was wondering if they ladies take crypto currencies. Trying to find a way to spend his crypto without Uncle Sam finding out LOL.
ZenMinded1
05-08-23, 07:19
Pattaya. No specific place. Soi 6 there are tons of fuck bars and throughout the city there are tons of massage places. Pick your poison.Ayyy okay I was thinking soi 6 sukhumvit Bangkok Thanks!
I gather Thailand's become rather pricey post-covid? Any other places people are going in preference to get more bang for their buck?Prices aren't substantially different, things have gone up a little due to inflation and the general increase you'd see in other big cities in the world and tourist destinations.
The baht has also been on a rebound right now, stabilizing again around 34-35 baht per $1 USD, so tourists have a little more money right now, but not enough to change too much on the ground. Thai sex businesses have little understanding or concepts behind pricing, they just kinda decide a price and like, that's the price, its not well thought out.
Apparently all alcohol serving places close at midnight tonight? Was told this in Soi Cowboy last night, where mamasan said to make sure I come early tonight for a good pick. She was saying it's Buddha birthday or something. Can anyone here validate this?
Explorer8939
06-03-23, 17:57
I told my friend I doubt it but he was wondering if they ladies take crypto currencies. Trying to find a way to spend his crypto without Uncle Sam finding out LOL.Not a chance.
I told my friend I doubt it but he was wondering if they ladies take crypto currencies. Trying to find a way to spend his crypto without Uncle Sam finding out LOL.He's a tax cheat? Tell him we have enough wackos and scammers here, find a better place to infect.
Chan Chalupa
06-04-23, 00:42
Can you be a bit more specific on where in soi 6 and which massage parlors?
I got BBFS just yesterday for 1 k but that was Chiang Mai. In BKK across town I never got shop+BJ for less than 1 k, let alone FS.Are you ok with girls with wide heavy arms and legs. Old with odd teeth missing, etc.
Don't fall for his prices. His girls are not that in Demand.
Hello,
I saw some posts in the forums for how you should NOT use the ATM machines and instead should change cash.
There was even an advice of not using the change booths on the 2nd floor of BKK airport, preferring the ones on the Train Link floor (underground).
My findings as of 2023-06-20 are as follows:
1. My comparison is based on HKD (Hong Kong Dollars).
2. The rate on the 2nd floor of BKK airport was 3. 95 . This was both before immigration and after immigration.
3. The rate on the Train Link floor was 3. 98 .
4. When using the ATM in Pattaya (TTB machine on the street), there was an extra charge of 220 Baht. This could be significant if you only withdraw small amounts, but I have withdrawn THB 20,000 and then it's not very significant.
5. I was charged HKD 4650.05 by my Hong Kong bank, based on the bank transaction record.
6. The actual exchange for the transaction was therefore 4. 35 .
7. The "effective" exchange rate for the entire transaction (Paid HKD 4650.05; received THB 20,000) was therefore 4. 30 .
8. For reference, the posted average exchange rate between THB and HKD for the date of ATM withdrawal was 4. 45 .
I believe the ATM option was still much better in my case.
Please consider the above if you need cash.
Hello,
I saw some posts in the forums for how you should NOT use the ATM machines and instead should change cash.
There was even an advice of not using the change booths on the 2nd floor of BKK airport, preferring the ones on the Train Link floor (underground).
My findings as of 2023-06-20 are as follows:
1. My comparison is based on HKD (Hong Kong Dollars).
2. The rate on the 2nd floor of BKK airport was 3. 95 . This was both before immigration and after immigration.
3. The rate on the Train Link floor was 3. 98 .
4. When using the ATM in Pattaya (TTB machine on the street), there was an extra charge of 220 Baht. This could be significant if you only withdraw small amounts, but I have withdrawn THB 20,000 and then it's not very significant.
5. I was charged HKD 4650.05 by my Hong Kong bank, based on the bank transaction record.
6. The actual exchange for the transaction was therefore 4. 35 .
7. The "effective" exchange rate for the entire transaction (Paid HKD 4650.05; received THB 20,000) was therefore 4. 30 .
8. For reference, the posted average exchange rate between THB and HKD for the date of ATM withdrawal was 4. 45 .
I believe the ATM option was still much better in my case.
Please consider the above if you need cash.Looks like you got your change at the airport? I feel like that's the worst place to get it. It's the first booth youll see and easiest access so they don't need competitive rates.
My trip was in Jan of 2023. I went to like 8 different ATMs at Bangkok to see if it did give better rate than those booth. Like he mentioned, they all seem to charge the 220 flat fee. Some though will charge a percentage fee so watch out for those ATMs. The first one I went to I got a little better rate than those booths all around Bangkok. But all the others was a lot worse rate then the booths, and I'm not even taking into account the flat fee since I get reimbursed for that. I was always google the rate at the time I took money out from ATM to compare. Base off of per $100 US the fee came out to as low as 8 baht but mostly in the 30's baht per $100 US I exchanged. Don't recall the exact rate at booth but I believe it was around 12 baht fee per 100 $ based off of the exchange rate I'd see on google. It's very minor difference but from my short experiment I'm sticking to booths, unless I'm out of US 100's and need more cash.
The "baht fee" is what I'm calling the difference in the exchange rate I see on google than what I receive. So if google has it at $100 US to 3400 baht and I got back 3380, the baht fee would be 20 bhat per 100.
Also if you're at a place that takes credit card. I always got exact rate or even better (compared to google) at time of purchase. Did that like at more expensive restaurants and other activities, like bowlling, watching movie. Of course use a CC that doesn't have foreign transaction fee.
Charles schwab reimburse ATM fees, not sure if people outside of the States can make an acct with them or not. They could be other banks that has this same offer with reimbursement for fees.
TLDR: use the booth to exchange, CC for places that accept them, and last resort ATM and hopefully you have one that reimburse ATM fees.
HorseTrader
06-22-23, 07:47
Charles schwab reimburse ATM fees, not sure if people outside of the States can make an acct with them or not. They could be other banks that has this same offer with reimbursement for fees.Fidelity does the same thing and they also provide a good exchange rate.
A few times I've looked at the cash exchange rates posted and then did my Fidelity ATM withdraw. The next day I would check my Fidelity online statement and Fidelity has always given me a better overall exchange rate than the cash exchange booths.
Houston Player
06-22-23, 09:18
Fidelity does the same thing and they also provide a good exchange rate.
A few times I've looked at the cash exchange rates posted and then did my Fidelity ATM withdraw. The next day I would check my Fidelity online statement and Fidelity has always given me a better overall exchange rate than the cash exchange booths.Exactly right.
Fidelity does the same thing and they also provide a good exchange rate.
A few times I've looked at the cash exchange rates posted and then did my Fidelity ATM withdraw. The next day I would check my Fidelity online statement and Fidelity has always given me a better overall exchange rate than the cash exchange booths.Ahh nice, guess your Banks card is another variable to consider, didn't seem worth it with Schwab.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 17:11
Ahh nice, guess your Banks card is another variable to consider, didn't seem worth it with Schwab.Why do you say it did not seem worth it with Schwab? You absolutely do not have to pay anything and get the best rate plus you get interest on your account. So hell, they are paying you to use it! I have had Schwab for years and it is definitely worth it. I used to bring money to exchange and deposit it into my Thai account. I do not even bring cash anymore. I just withdraw it from Krungsri or TMB (can withdraw 30,000 baht at a time with them) and deposit it into my Kasikorn (used to have the most ATMs, but after covid you can hardly find one) account. Before Schwab I had HSBC because they had machines in a lot of countries so I did not have to pay a fee.
Looks like you got your change at the airport? I feel like that's the worst place to get it. It's the first booth youll see and easiest access so they don't need competitive rates.
My trip was in Jan of 2023. I went to like 8 different ATMs at Bangkok to see if it did give better rate than those booth. Like he mentioned, they all seem to charge the 220 flat fee. Some though will charge a percentage fee so watch out for those ATMs. The first one I went to I got a little better rate than those booths all around Bangkok. But all the others was a lot worse rate then the booths, and I'm not even taking into account the flat fee since I get reimbursed for that. I was always google the rate at the time I took money out from ATM to compare. Base off of per $100 US the fee came out to as low as 8 baht but mostly in the 30's baht per $100 US I exchanged. Don't recall the exact rate at booth but I believe it was around 12 baht fee per 100 $ based off of the exchange rate I'd see on google. It's very minor difference but from my short experiment I'm sticking to booths, unless I'm out of US 100's and need more cash.
The "baht fee" is what I'm calling the difference in the exchange rate I see on google than what I receive. So if google has it at $100 US to 3400 baht and I got back 3380, the baht fee would be 20 bhat per 100.
Also if you're at a place that takes credit card. I always got exact rate or even better (compared to google) at time of purchase. Did that like at more expensive restaurants and other activities, like bowlling, watching movie. Of course use a CC that doesn't have foreign transaction fee.
Charles schwab reimburse ATM fees, not sure if people outside of the States can make an acct with them or not. They could be other banks that has this same offer with reimbursement for fees.
TLDR: use the booth to exchange, CC for places that accept them, and last resort ATM and hopefully you have one that reimburse ATM fees.Not so sure in Bangkok but Casino's have the best exchange rates. Agree with CC with no foreign fees, always charge in local currency. F you are an "accredited investor" then Schwab, Fidelity, VAnguard, Etrade no charges at all.
HorseTrader
06-22-23, 21:43
.. You absolutely do not have to pay anything and get the best rate plus you get interest on your account. So hell, they are paying you to use it! I have had Schwab for years and it is definitely worth it.We have established that Fidelity and Schwab return the 220 baht ATM fees and give good exchange rates. Are there any others? I know that Wells Fargo, PNC, and M&T do not give a sweet deal. Discover Bank ATM cards are not even usable in Thailand.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 21:50
We have established that Fidelity and Schwab return the 220 baht ATM fees and give good exchange rates. Are there any others? I know that Wells Fargo, PNC, and M&T do not give a sweet deal. Discover Bank ATM cards are not even usable in Thailand.No idea. I think before someone said TD Ameritrade but they changed the policy.
We have established that Fidelity and Schwab return the 220 baht ATM fees and give good exchange rates. Are there any others? I know that Wells Fargo, PNC, and M&T do not give a sweet deal. Discover Bank ATM cards are not even usable in Thailand.These are the only two I am aware of. Schwab has been a mainstay for years now and I have always used them for my travels.
Why do you say it did not seem worth it with Schwab? You absolutely do not have to pay anything and get the best rate plus you get interest on your account. So hell, they are paying you to use it! I have had Schwab for years and it is definitely worth it. I used to bring money to exchange and deposit it into my Thai account. I do not even bring cash anymore. I just withdraw it from Krungsri or TMB (can withdraw 30,000 baht at a time with them) and deposit it into my Kasikorn (used to have the most ATMs, but after covid you can hardly find one) account. Before Schwab I had HSBC because they had machines in a lot of countries so I did not have to pay a fee.So from my experience I got better rate at the booth compared to ATM, that's what I meant, but yea definitely better than the other ATM cards that don't reimburse. ID save like 1 us dollar per 100 exchanged with the booths so very minimal difference.
So from my experience I got better rate at the booth compared to ATM, that's what I meant, but yea definitely better than the other ATM cards that don't reimburse. ID save like 1 us dollar per 100 exchanged with the booths so very minimal difference.A better rate than them is 1 in a 100 exchange places.
A better rate than them is 1 in a 100 exchange places.LOL, its easy to see which booth are the best rates and yea I just go to those. They're all over the place in patt / bkk. That tiny saving probably wont matter to most and no hassle of carrying around so much cash to exchange. I still have it on hand if i do end up using all my cash. Just giving my 2 cents, no need try to start a troll war lol
We have established that Fidelity and Schwab return the 220 baht ATM fees and give good exchange rates. Are there any others? I know that Wells Fargo, PNC, and M&T do not give a sweet deal. Discover Bank ATM cards are not even usable in Thailand.Fidelity, Schwab, Vanguard, Etrade, Interactive Brokers, and on are all brokerage accounts. They don't charge fees of any kind. Heck, I transferred 20 G US $ into my "Nieces" account overseas and zero charges.
Hi.
Anybody know of a Taxi service from Bangkok Airport to Pattaya for 1000 Bht.
If Yes please supply the link.
I tried Nams Taxi Lady drivers. They now want 1200 Bht.
Thanks.
TC.
Anybody know of a Taxi service from Bangkok airport to Pattaya for 1,000 baht? I tried Nams Taxi. They now want 1,200.At 34.5 baht to the USA This lad is worried about $5.80. Perhaps the Bell Bus is more his style. The one-way fare from BKK to Pattaya is 300.
https://belltravelservice.com/shared-transfer/
Bunky
At 34.5 baht to the USA This lad is worried about $5.80. Perhaps the Bell Bus is more his style. The one-way fare from BKK to Pattaya is 300.
https://belltravelservice.com/shared-transfer/
BunkyLOL, awesome reply.
I take the 180 baht bus if I remember correctly. If I was taking a taxi I would not balk at 200 baht difference. Either be a cheap charlie and take the bus like me or be a VIP guy and take a taxi.
At 34.5 baht to the USA This lad is worried about $5.80. Perhaps the Bell Bus is more his style. The one-way fare from BKK to Pattaya is 300.
https://belltravelservice.com/shared-transfer/
BunkyBell travel doesn't leave at 2: am.
Vicky Cooper
06-23-23, 18:03
Will be for the very first time in Thailand (BKK) next month for a short 5 day stay and looking forward to fun times ahead & will report back on the BKK thread. Now the problem is I have a very sensitive stomach that gives trouble frequently. (Probably Indigestion / Gastritis or GERD to be specific). The doctor is not able to find out the exact cause of this nuisance. I'm guessing more on the terms of "Functional Dyspepsia".
With that in mind, I will have to limit my consumption of alcohol & fizzy drinks to zero as alcohol aggravates all gastric related issues. Can I sit at a bar & order a coconut water or fruit juice without offending staff? No problem with me buying lady drinks (alcohol) for a girl I like or even offering the mamasan a drink occasionally.
I'm already having a small about of indigestion at the moment and I'm a bit worried that drinking alcohol in BKK will further aggravate things.
Mr Enternational
06-23-23, 18:21
Anybody know of a Taxi service from Bangkok Airport to Pattaya for 1000 Bht.Dude just go upstairs to the 4th floor and go outside and cross over to the other side and tell the driver 1000. I have done this literally 100 times. I do not know why people keep obsessing over these taxi services or paying more than 1000.
Mr Enternational
06-23-23, 22:58
Can I sit at a bar & order a coconut water or fruit juice without offending staff? No problem with me buying lady drinks (alcohol) for a girl I like or even offering the mamasan a drink occasionally..You can sit and buy anything you want. Sometimes I do not buy anything at all. Most of the time lady drink is not alcohol though. It will be watered down apple juice or may have just a drop of alcohol. But it will not be a normal drink as if you were buying it for yourself. When she gets it taste it to see.
Will be for the very first time in Thailand (BKK) next month for a short 5 day stay and looking forward to fun times ahead & will report back on the BKK thread. Now the problem is I have a very sensitive stomach that gives trouble frequently. (Probably Indigestion / Gastritis or GERD to be specific). The doctor is not able to find out the exact cause of this nuisance. I'm guessing more on the terms of "Functional Dyspepsia".
With that in mind, I will have to limit my consumption of alcohol & fizzy drinks to zero as alcohol aggravates all gastric related issues. Can I sit at a bar & order a coconut water or fruit juice without offending staff? No problem with me buying lady drinks (alcohol) for a girl I like or even offering the mamasan a drink occasionally.
I'm already having a small about of indigestion at the moment and I'm a bit worried that drinking alcohol in BKK will further aggravate things.Well yeah dude, they don't care what you drink as long as you do. Higher profit margins in soda and juice, have at it.
... Now the problem is I have a very sensitive stomach that gives trouble frequently. (Probably Indigestion / Gastritis or GERD to be specific). The doctor is not able to find out the exact cause of this nuisance. I'm guessing more on the terms of "Functional Dyspepsia".
With that in mind, I will have to limit my consumption of alcohol & fizzy drinks to zero as alcohol aggravates all gastric related issues. Can I sit at a bar & order a coconut water or fruit juice without offending staff? No problem with me buying lady drinks (alcohol) for a girl I like or even offering the mamasan a drink occasionally.
I'm already having a small about of indigestion at the moment and I'm a bit worried that drinking alcohol in BKK will further aggravate things.Have you tried stopping to drink ice-cold drinks? If I spend a few days drinking ice-cold drinks I get stomach ache with cramps and even diarrhea. The symptoms come up all at once after a few days.
... Now the problem is I have a very sensitive stomach that gives trouble frequently. (Probably Indigestion / Gastritis or GERD to be specific). The doctor is not able to find out the exact cause of this nuisance. I'm guessing more on the terms of "Functional Dyspepsia".
With that in mind, I will have to limit my consumption of alcohol & fizzy drinks to zero as alcohol aggravates all gastric related issues. Can I sit at a bar & order a coconut water or fruit juice without offending staff? No problem with me buying lady drinks (alcohol) for a girl I like or even offering the mamasan a drink occasionally.
I'm already having a small about of indigestion at the moment and I'm a bit worried that drinking alcohol in BKK will further aggravate things.Have you tried not drinking ice-cold drinks any more? If I spend a few days drinking ice-cold drinks I get stomach ache with cramps and even diarrhea. The symptoms have no precursors, they come up all of a sudden after a few days.
Banana Boi
06-24-23, 06:28
If I spend a few days drinking ice-cold drinks I get stomach ache with cramps and even diarrhea. The symptoms come up all at once after a few days.The ice is made from Thai water that is likely contaminated or worse. If you don't drink water from a Thai tap don't get drinks with ice in them.
The ice is made from Thai water that is likely contaminated or worse. If you don't drink water from a Thai tap don't get drinks with ice in them.On principle it should not be contaminated being the ice factory made and not home made (from the tap). So it should respond to certain standards.
But we also know the "standards " in Thailand are very flexible and anyone can set a factory in the back yard.
The cold chain (in food) is also over broken. That's a fact. The reason why I don't eat from stalls, not because I am picky.
Our western body is not suited to many things off tropical countries, and there is also people weaker than others. Another fact we can't control ourselves.
Add the heat / humidity factors that might hurt some.
Dude just go upstairs to the 4th floor and go outside and cross over to the other side and tell the driver 1000. I have done this literally 100 times. I do not know why people keep obsessing over these taxi services or paying more than 1000.Well, at the same token I can't understand the obsession of saving 200 baht for 1-2-3 week holiday as a plus difference when ordering a dedicated car service for a 120 km ride. Cars and drivers not comparable with the city taxis. One has spent quite some money in flight ticket, hotel, plus the expected entertainment and food expenditures and 200 baht are a nuisance? A deal breaker?
Oh well, each one his own, of course.
Banana Boi
06-24-23, 11:32
Vietnam finally switching back to pre-COVID 90 day eVisa on August 15. They made it even better saying it's multi entry now. Guess I'll move home base from Japan / Korea to Vietnam soon. I've personally been waiting for 1 of the SEA countries (not Malaysia) to reinstate a 90 day Visa.
Why is this news in the Thailand thread? I believe Thailand needs to react quickly to lengthening their Visa to at least 45 days or Vietnam will dominate tourism in SEA.
Mr Enternational
06-24-23, 12:43
Well, at the same token I can't understand the obsession of saving 200 baht for 1-2-3 week holiday as a plus difference when ordering a dedicated car service for a 120 km ride. Cars and drivers not comparable with the city taxis. One has spent quite some money in flight ticket, hotel, plus the expected entertainment and food expenditures and 200 baht are a nuisance? A deal breaker?
Oh well, each one his own, of course.What does one have to do with the other? You are saying if 2 pretty much identical apples are next to each other but one costs $6 more than the other, then I should just buy the more expensive apple since I paid $1 million for my house.
Vietnam finally switching back to pre-COVID 90 day eVisa on August 15. They made it even better saying it's multi entry now. Guess I'll move home base from Japan / Korea to Vietnam soon. I've personally been waiting for 1 of the SEA countries (not Malaysia) to reinstate a 90 day Visa.
Why is this news in the Thailand thread? I believe Thailand needs to react quickly to lengthening their Visa to at least 45 days or Vietnam will dominate tourism in SEA.I agree, should be 45-60 days on arrival for most passports, at least western countries.
On principle it should not be contaminated being the ice factory made and not home made (from the tap). So it should respond to certain standards.
But we also know the "standards " in Thailand are very flexible and anyone can set a factory in the back yard.
The cold chain (in food) is also over broken. That's a fact. The reason why I don't eat from stalls, not because I am picky.
Our western body is not suited to many things off tropical countries, and there is also people weaker than others. Another fact we can't control ourselves.
Add the heat / humidity factors that might hurt some.The ice in Thailand is safe to consume. It's all from filtered water from factories.
For those with sensitive stomachs and food poisoning concerns, only eat at restaurants and malls and mall food courts. That's what I try to do. The outdoor food stalls are a risk.
I ate from a turkish kebab stall at Tree Town in Pattaya last year and got the worst food poisoning of my life. I couldn't move for two days. My next trip I plan to only eat at the malls and hotel. Conveniently, malls are everywhere in Bangkok and Pattaya.
Well, at the same token I can't understand the obsession of saving 200 baht for 1-2-3 week holiday as a plus difference when ordering a dedicated car service for a 120 km ride. Cars and drivers not comparable with the city taxis. One has spent quite some money in flight ticket, hotel, plus the expected entertainment and food expenditures and 200 baht are a nuisance? A deal breaker?
Oh well, each one his own, of course.Its not an obsession, its reality. The cost is 1000 baht. Why pay more? For a privately owned Toyota vis a vis one with colours? If I want a Benz, Ill call for one.
Its more about value for money, paying the fair price, viz: Its meter 250 B from my door to the corner of Suk and Soi 3 on a Sunday afternoon no traffic. Pus tip, no tolls.
So if someone tells me 300 B back at 0300 I'm not going to argue. 500? Next.
One early am, I flag down a cab. He tells me 500. OK, no thanks. Wait, 400! 300 I say, he says OK. Hmmmmm, that was easy. Off we go. Conversation: Are you finish tonight? Yes go home. Lightbulb goes off in my head. Where you live? *well its across the road from my condo*. Paid for going home! Fair price for going home! Two winners.
On principle it should not be contaminated being the ice factory made and not home made (from the tap). So it should respond to certain standards.
But we also know the "standards " in Thailand are very flexible and anyone can set a factory in the back yard.
The cold chain (in food) is also over broken. That's a fact. The reason why I don't eat from stalls, not because I am picky.
Our western body is not suited to many things off tropical countries, and there is also people weaker than others. Another fact we can't control ourselves.
Add the heat / humidity factors that might hurt some.The ice in a decent venue is fine, otherwise the Thais would be sick too.
Why is this news in the Thailand thread? I believe Thailand needs to react quickly to lengthening their Visa to at least 45 days or Vietnam will dominate tourism in SEA.Thailand's evisa is already 2 plus 1 month, but I don't know if there is still the multi-entry (it was available only for some countries pre-covid).
Vietnam finally switching back to pre-COVID 90 day eVisa on August 15. They made it even better saying it's multi entry now. Guess I'll move home base from Japan / Korea to Vietnam soon. I've personally been waiting for 1 of the SEA countries (not Malaysia) to reinstate a 90 day Visa.
Why is this news in the Thailand thread? I believe Thailand needs to react quickly to lengthening their Visa to at least 45 days or Vietnam will dominate tourism in SEA.I think Vietnam will not dominate, because the majority of the tourists have to get back to work after a couple of weeks, and therefore cannot take a 45 days vacation.
The ice in Thailand is safe to consume. It's all from filtered water from factories.
For those with sensitive stomachs and food poisoning concerns, only eat at restaurants and malls and mall food courts. That's what I try to do. The outdoor food stalls are a risk.
I ate from a turkish kebab stall at Tree Town in Pattaya last year and got the worst food poisoning of my life. I couldn't move for two days. My next trip I plan to only eat at the malls and hotel. Conveniently, malls are everywhere in Bangkok and Pattaya.I stick to American chain restaurants or higher end restaurants. I leaned my lesson onetime eating at night market stalls, which led to me being out of commission for days.
How reliable is Cebu Air flying out of Bangkok to Manila? Would you recommend a different airline.
Thanks for the response.
Mr Enternational
06-25-23, 20:50
How reliable is Cebu Air flying out of Bangkok to Manila? Would you recommend a different airline..Never had a problem. They keep writing to me saying my points are about to expire.
Dude just go upstairs to the 4th floor and go outside and cross over to the other side and tell the driver 1000. I have done this literally 100 times. I do not know why people keep obsessing over these taxi services or paying more than 1000.Yeah I'm pretty much on the same point. A regular taxi will generally not give much of a shit and take the fare. Same goes for leaving from Bangkok city proper.
The ice in Thailand is safe to consume. It's all from filtered water from factories.
For those with sensitive stomachs and food poisoning concerns, only eat at restaurants and malls and mall food courts. That's what I try to do. The outdoor food stalls are a risk.
I ate from a turkish kebab stall at Tree Town in Pattaya last year and got the worst food poisoning of my life. I couldn't move for two days. My next trip I plan to only eat at the malls and hotel. Conveniently, malls are everywhere in Bangkok and Pattaya.Just stick with the ice with holes in it and you will be fine.
So the IRS tells me someone may have used my social security number to acquire employment, and they say I might want to put a fraud alert on my credit. I looked around and couldn't find any good info on how that might effect me once I'm overseas such as banking, wire transfers, buying a condo, etc. Anyone had any experience with this? I wouldn't want to make it impossible to access my bank accounts.
On another note I once tried a wire transfer to Thailand from my current bank and had some major issues. My bank actually ran the wire transfer via Bank of America instead of themselves. Is there a specific bank in the US that someone recommends if moving overseas? Does anyone use Charles Schwab in that regard? I already know they are good for reimbursing ATM fees.
So the IRS tells me someone may have used my social security number to acquire employment, and they say I might want to put a fraud alert on my credit. I looked around and couldn't find any good info on how that might effect me once I'm overseas such as banking, wire transfers, buying a condo, etc. Anyone had any experience with this? I wouldn't want to make it impossible to access my bank accounts.
On another note I once tried a wire transfer to Thailand from my current bank and had some major issues. My bank actually ran the wire transfer via Bank of America instead of themselves. Is there a specific bank in the US that someone recommends if moving overseas? Does anyone use Charles Schwab in that regard? I already know they are good for reimbursing ATM fees.For fraud and stuff, many banks and credit cards allow you to do a travel notification, which is exactly to prevent issues from popping up while traveling abroad. Some have sunset this and just take a look at the chargers, others you can do it online or with a call. Your bank may vary, but generally you can get this all settled before you go, or if a card gets blocked, a quick call or customer support can resolve it, its frustrating, but just takes a short time to resolve.
Mr Enternational
06-27-23, 19:55
So the IRS tells me someone may have used my social security number to acquire employment, and they say I might want to put a fraud alert on my credit. I looked around and couldn't find any good info on how that might effect me once I'm overseas such as banking, wire transfers, buying a condo, etc. Anyone had any experience with this? I wouldn't want to make it impossible to access my bank accounts.
On another note I once tried a wire transfer to Thailand from my current bank and had some major issues. My bank actually ran the wire transfer via Bank of America instead of themselves. Is there a specific bank in the US that someone recommends if moving overseas? Does anyone use Charles Schwab in that regard? I already know they are good for reimbursing ATM fees.It only stops someone from opening credit in your name. If you are at the store and want to apply for a card then you simply go online and turn the block off. Get approved then turn the block back on. Has nothing to do with you traveling, only with new credit.
I use Schwab. Simply take money out the machine. You do not need a transfer. You can call them to raise your daily withdrawal limit temporarily (24 hours) or permanently.
So the IRS tells me someone may have used my social security number to acquire employment, and they say I might want to put a fraud alert on my credit. I looked around and couldn't find any good info on how that might effect me once I'm overseas such as banking, wire transfers, buying a condo, etc. Anyone had any experience with this? I wouldn't want to make it impossible to access my bank accounts.
On another note I once tried a wire transfer to Thailand from my current bank and had some major issues. My bank actually ran the wire transfer via Bank of America instead of themselves. Is there a specific bank in the US that someone recommends if moving overseas? Does anyone use Charles Schwab in that regard? I already know they are good for reimbursing ATM fees.This is why Banks are criminal, they will charge a transaction fee to transfer internationally or even domestic. Schwab and other brokerage accounts wave this fee (at least for me) but you'll need to check with them first. However, It may take up to 1 day for the transfer.
Ripple, the company and XRP the token will eliminate all the reason you mentioned above. Blockchain technology in money transfer solutions. Transfer done within seconds (like sending an e-mail) and only cents for any denomination of $ transfers. The US is desperately trying to stall this technology until the Banks run by Wall Street figure out how they can control the trillions of dollars lost daily (like 12 trillion per day) from this ultimate tech that will dominate how money is settled worldwide instantly.
HorseTrader
06-27-23, 21:55
Your bank may vary, but generally you can get this all settled before you go, or if a card gets blocked, a quick call or customer support can resolve it, its frustrating, but just takes a short time to resolve.I was forced to cancel one of my cards while in Thailand about 8 months ago. Cancellation was quick and easy, just one call. Getting the replacement card while in Thailand took many calls and 4 days. Dealing with USA banks for card cancellation is a 24/7 thing, but I could only deal with card replacement problems during USA business hours. After 4 days waiting for my replacement card, I still had activation and password problems which required USA telephone support (several issues) plus internet access (set new password).
Recommend that none of us travel to Thailand without backup financial arrangements (e.g., 2+ ATM cards, 2+ credit cards, cash).
LittleBigMan
06-28-23, 04:17
So the IRS tells me someone may have used my social security number to acquire employment, and they say I might want to put a fraud alert on my credit. I looked around and couldn't find any good info on how that might effect me once I'm overseas such as banking, wire transfers, buying a condo, etc. Anyone had any experience with this? I wouldn't want to make it impossible to access my bank accounts.
On another note I once tried a wire transfer to Thailand from my current bank and had some major issues. My bank actually ran the wire transfer via Bank of America instead of themselves. Is there a specific bank in the US that someone recommends if moving overseas? Does anyone use Charles Schwab in that regard? I already know they are good for reimbursing ATM fees.I have been here for close to twenty years now Pattaya. I have a number of banking accounts as a backup in case something happens I try to cover everything so I have access to my money in case something happens. I also have a Charles Schwab investment account with a checking that provides me with an ATM card my Social Security goes into that account. Yes, they provide ATM charges back but it has been some time since the last few years don't do withdraws out of Thai ATMs any longer prior I mainly use Aeon and there is only one place in Pattaya that has a branch of the machine.
ATM's here normally charge you 150-220 baht for the use.
I believe by today's techno standard you can go online to your bank or credit union and put a notification on your credit card that you are traveling and unblock your card for a certain period. I started to do this years ago after I got stuck in Hong Kong on standby tired of waiting I was able to get a seat on Air Asia back to Bangkok, but when processing my credit card it was rejected there was a block lesson learned. Not as easy just to pick up your phone unless you prepared your phone for travel plus some banks if not all you call then you have to push a number of buttons wait and wait to actually get a person.
A few years ago I signed up for a service called Wise! If interested you will need to take the time to learn and figure it out for yourself but I've found so far it is the best way to get your money if you have a Thai bank Account! There are a number of banks that won't allow you to exceed 50,000 baht at a time I have a number of accounts with Bangkok Bank that do allow.
Wise gives you the best rate by far any service I have used if the international market rate is 35.10 that is what you are going to get, minus the ACH debit card fee which is lower than what you pay using an ATM machine plus a far greater exchange rate far greater if Charles Schwab refunded me the fee. Today I wired my pension and my S. S. Deposited into Charles Schwab checking plan ahead depending on the amount it might take 24 hours into your Thai account. I figure out that if you do like 1000.00 USA Within a 24 period just after you click submit you get a notice on your phone it is already in your account even before they have taken it from your account in the USA.
Timing is everything when home for larger amounts I've done large amounts like $30,000 USA Plus to my Thai accounts, I log on and make the request not using ACH, but another method choice is they have a HQ branch of Wells Fargo in New York, I get their account number to have my bank wire the money to their account reference number and one they get it the money is in your Thai bank account.
In comparison, when I see over each month used to take it out of the ATM, but now because of getting a better higher rate, I getting a few Thousand baht more each month. Many retirees doing Immigration O, monthly method use Wise once a month to show the transfer of 40,000 or 60,000 baht. Once your account is set up they will ask why you sending money just click " living expenses "
Good luck.
LittleBigMan
06-28-23, 04:37
Eating at modern malls with more international operating vendors their standard of hygiene is much better than Thai market or cart food although many try their best. I live with Thais shop and eat regularly at Thai places I don't think a lot of hygiene if I did I would go hungry you do the best you can and go with those who you haven't gotten sick. I eat a lot of salads out of experience best to get it from places like Foodland, Tops, or a major market that has a salad bar. I have seen stuff at markets and homes of Thais who I thought did a good job of hygiene come away shaking my head.
No matter where you eat in my opinion in Thailand there are rats and mice everywhere even in the 5-star restaurant or hotels you can agree or disagree won't change what I've seen.
When it comes to Ice, no matter where you eat it is delivered in a side cart back of a small covered truck seldom clean, and the workers handling bagging have no gloves. As far as I know, I've not ever been sick I've been to their factories, that sell volume Ice, and local bottled water just enjoy you don't want to know less you know the better. Prior to Covid, I was on Beach Road, a well know hotel middle of beach row that had one of the best buffets all of a sudden table next to me an Australian family wife jumps up screaming "That's it I'm not eating here " if you can't eat there where are you going to eat. As she was reaching for salt and pepper she ended up stroking the back of Micky mouse LOL, so use to it like many we just keep eating.
Chan Chalupa
06-28-23, 06:05
Eating at modern malls with more international operating vendors their standard of hygiene is much better than Thai market or cart food although many try their best. I live with Thais shop and eat regularly at Thai places I don't think a lot of hygiene if I did I would go hungry you do the best you can and go with those who you haven't gotten sick. I eat a lot of salads out of experience best to get it from places like Foodland, Tops, or a major market that has a salad bar. I have seen stuff at markets and homes of Thais who I thought did a good job of hygiene come away shaking my head.
No matter where you eat in my opinion in Thailand there are rats and mice everywhere even in the 5-star restaurant or hotels you can agree or disagree won't change what I've seen.
When it comes to Ice, no matter where you eat it is delivered in a side cart back of a small covered truck seldom clean, and the workers handling bagging have no gloves. As far as I know, I've not ever been sick I've been to their factories, that sell volume Ice, and local bottled water just enjoy you don't want to know less you know the better. Prior to Covid, I was on Beach Road, a well know hotel middle of beach row that had one of the best buffets all of a sudden table next to me an Australian family wife jumps up screaming "That's it I'm not eating here " if you can't eat there where are you going to eat. As she was reaching for salt and pepper she ended up stroking the back of Micky mouse LOL, so use to it like many we just keep eating.Roti lady' prepare s her Food on the Floor.
LittleBigMan
06-29-23, 06:23
Roti lady' prepare s her Food on the Floor.This is very common and when they do you would be lucky if it is done on tile floors! The majority of the floors being used to prepare food in your normal countertop have just as much bacteria as the bathroom. The sponge or towel they use to clean the countertop or floor I put a good amount of money that my boxers are cleaner? 555 LOL.
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A few years ago I signed up for a service called Wise! If interested you will need to take the time to learn and figure it out for yourself but I've found so far it is the best way to get your money if you have a Thai bank Account! There are a number of banks that won't allow you to exceed 50,000 baht at a time I have a number of accounts with Bangkok Bank that do allow.
Wise gives you the best rate by far any service I have used if the international market rate is 35.10 that is what you are going to get, minus the ACH debit card fee which is lower than what you pay using an ATM machine plus a far greater exchange rate far greater if Charles Schwab refunded me the fee. Today I wired my pension and my S. S. Deposited into Charles Schwab checking plan ahead depending on the amount it might take 24 hours into your Thai account. I figure out that if you do like 1000.00 USA Within a 24 period just after you click submit you get a notice on your phone it is already in your account even before they have taken it from your account in the USA.
Timing is everything when home for larger amounts I've done large amounts like $30,000 USA Plus to my Thai accounts, I log on and make the request not using ACH, but another method choice is they have a HQ branch of Wells Fargo in New York, I get their account number to have my bank wire the money to their account reference number and one they get it the money is in your Thai bank account.
In comparison, when I see over each month used to take it out of the ATM, but now because of getting a better higher rate, I getting a few Thousand baht more each month. Many retirees doing Immigration O, monthly method use Wise once a month to show the transfer of 40,000 or 60,000 baht. Once your account is set up they will ask why you sending money just click " living expenses "
Good luck.Hmm. I use Wise for that purpose. But the only option that puts the critical "Foreign Transfer" code into my Thai bank's statements, which is what Immigration wants to see, is the "Funds for long stay in Thailand" option. All of the other options for why I am making the transfer, including "General living expenses" only show up on my Thai bank statements as a "Transfer from another bank", which counts for nothing to Immigration in terms of proof that I made a Foreign Transfer.
Different policies at different Thai banks? Maybe.
Banana Boi
06-29-23, 13:08
Roti lady' prepare s her Food on the Floor.Does she still actually work or still living off all the cash, iPhones, and cars she gets for free from guys trying to impress her, not to mention her YouTube money.
Chan Chalupa
06-30-23, 02:12
Does she still actually work or still living off all the cash, iPhones, and cars she gets for free from guys trying to impress her, not to mention her YouTube money.I'm just surmiseing. I bet most of the money is going to her Handlers.
...the only option that puts the critical "Foreign Transfer" code into my Thai bank's statements, which is what Immigration wants to see, is the "Funds for long stay in Thailand" option.FTT, FTF code? Can't remember exactly. I'm on the road at the moment, so no bankbook in hand but you're absolutely correct. This is the code that Immigration wants to see and the "Funds for long stay in Thailand" is the only way to guarantee it. The problem is the banks are actually collections of banks. One will do the international transfer under a name *not* on your bank book, then they'll do an internal transfer to your named bank. And it shows in your bankbook as a domestic transfer. Immigration no likee.
Different policies at different Thai banks? Maybe.I know the "Funds for long term stay. " thing started with Bangkok Bank / Wise. That's all I've ever used. (Two years. So far so good.) I'd be highly suspect of other banks. BKB seems to have a knack for finding ways to work with / around the rules.
Thanks for all the feedback regarding money matters guys.
Does she still actually work or still living off all the cash, iPhones, and cars she gets for free from guys trying to impress her, not to mention her YouTube money.I am kind of in love with Puy from afar. That whole work ethic thing is just attractive as hell, not to mention she's easy on the eyes and her voice isn't terrible. Looking forward to buying a banana pancake from her someday. Jack Johnson should go over there and record a music video with her. Mike Rowe should pay her a visit too as she is everything he is all about. Somebody should design a way she could better transport her cart with her scooter.
I was forced to cancel one of my cards while in Thailand about 8 months ago. Cancellation was quick and easy, just one call. Getting the replacement card while in Thailand took many calls and 4 days. Dealing with USA banks for card cancellation is a 24/7 thing, but I could only deal with card replacement problems during USA business hours. After 4 days waiting for my replacement card, I still had activation and password problems which required USA telephone support (several issues) plus internet access (set new password).
Recommend that none of us travel to Thailand without backup financial arrangements (e.g., 2+ ATM cards, 2+ credit cards, cash).I don't understand why anyone living in Thailand doesn't have a Thai account and a Wise account to transfer funds. Solves all the problems continually bitched about.
Wise also gives you a Visa Debit that is accepted everywhere in Thailand. Great conversion rates.
Banana Boi
06-30-23, 19:49
Agree with Nyezhov. Anyone who travels needs to get a Wise card and load your baht up before you leave home. If anything were to ever happen I can guarantee you Wise would be much less hassle than dealing with a bank. Also agree anyone who goes to Thailand regularly should get a Thai bank account. I understand they are more difficult to get now so not sure this remains an option.
Banana Boi
06-30-23, 19:57
Many retirees doing Immigration O, monthly method use Wise once a month to show the transfer of 40,000 or 60,000 baht. Once your account is set up they will ask why you sending money just click " living expenses "I haven't begun the Retirement Visa process yet but isn't it just much simpler to keep 800 k baht in your bank account than to deal with all this monthly deposit stuff? Pretty sure anyone who has really retired should have 800 k baht that they can leave in a bank.
Agree with Nyezhov. Anyone who travels needs to get a Wise card and load your baht up before you leave home. If anything were to ever happen I can guarantee you Wise would be much less hassle than dealing with a bank. Also agree anyone who goes to Thailand regularly should get a Thai bank account. I understand they are more difficult to get now so not sure this remains an option.I got mine years ago by showing them my lease and 90 day Visa. Krungsri in The EmQuartier (3rd floor ish, I always get lost LOL), at Phrom Pong, BKK. I guarantee you that there are Banks in Pattaya that will open an accout for for falang.
Mr Enternational
06-30-23, 20:27
Pretty sure anyone who has really retired should have 800 k baht that they can leave in a bank.Yeah. But would they want to leave it in a Thai bank is the question.
Explorer8939
07-01-23, 02:04
I don't understand why anyone living in Thailand doesn't have a Thai account and a Wise account to transfer funds. Solves all the problems continually bitched about.
Wise also gives you a Visa Debit that is accepted everywhere in Thailand. Great conversion rates.Yep, that is exactly what I do.
But most posters here are just visiting.
I haven't begun the Retirement Visa process yet but isn't it just much simpler to keep 800 k baht in your bank account than to deal with all this monthly deposit stuff? Pretty sure anyone who has really retired should have 800 k baht that they can leave in a bank.I have never really understood the advantage or need to leave 800 K sitting in a Thai bank account instead of doing the 65 K minimum per month Foreign Transfer.
Are you going to deposit 800 K in that Thai bank to show Immigration that it is there and then draw from it thoughout the year for your living expenses only to need to plow another 800 K in that account again for the minimum number of months before your next visa extention trip to Immigration? Are you going to leave it there untouched doing nothing year after year and make Foreign Transfers from other sources every month or so for your living expenses anyway?
I know I will spend at least 65,000 baht every month while I am living in Thailand. Much more than that. Therefore, I know I will transfer at least that much to my Thai bank account every month. It costs me 200 baht to get a printed statement from my Thai bank to show Immigration that I did that.
What would that 800 K sitting in my Thai bank account all year or year after year be doing for me that it wouldn't be doing more for me invested or spent elsewhere on something else?
I haven't begun the Retirement Visa process yet but isn't it just much simpler to keep 800 k baht in your bank account than to deal with all this monthly deposit stuff? Pretty sure anyone who has really retired should have 800 k baht that they can leave in a bank.I didn't want to leave the lump sitting in a Thai bank making 0%, so instead I have it sitting in an American bank at 0. 25% (or some other shit rate. I don't even know what it is, but it's shit.) and hassle with the 65 k Bhat / month. Which is just a long way of saying you're right. Next time my visa comes up I'll be switching over to the 800 k set it and forget it method. I think there are even some, very few and also shit rate, options for interest bearing Thai accounts. I haven't homeworked that bit out myself yet, just repeating rumors, so don't quote me on that. But yeah, stick 800 k in the bank and give Immigration a few docs and a 1900 Bhat a year fee and you'll be looking a good bit smarter than me.
LittleBigMan
07-01-23, 10:03
I haven't begun the Retirement Visa process yet but isn't it just much simpler to keep 800 k baht in your bank account than to deal with all this monthly deposit stuff? Pretty sure anyone who has really retired should have 800 k baht that they can leave in a bank.First, when you live here it is pretty tough to trust the system or the banks. Many have read the stories of money being taken out of accounts these stories are usually put down so you don't hear about it. My concern is the protection it gets like the FDIC here it is something like 100,000 baht, and my generalization is being a Farang although Chinese my standing is raising in this country, particularly at the night venues then topping it off " Made in the USA " it can go a long way if you play it right. LOL. but never heard of a story where it happened to a Thai.
Personally, I've never had a problem opening a bank account first one was in 2000, the big branch on Second Rd, near Soi 6, just walked in and filled out a few forms, and made a deposit. I have two other accounts opened on the Darkside all with Bangkok Bank. Living on the dark side after a while I barely used the original account opened on 2nd Road, years later they started a policy if your balance was below a certain level they took 250 baht each month for service charges by the time I got wind of it the balance was close to zero. I just placed the book away and said why even bother to do them a favor and close it. So today I have two left, one is for the 800,000 baht method which I don't ever touch the other one is with my name only! Reason if you need a new book or card the other party needs to be with you to obtain one. I use to deposit money I send over using Wise. I have an ATM card for this account I'm not worried because the balance isn't much it goes in and it goes out each month. I just go to a branch that has machines outside their branches so you can update your book.
What I noticed for Farang account holders is they put in interest once or twice a year particularly time once a year they take taxes out for that interest. My accountant knows my situation living in Thailand once ask me if I need to report interest from those accounts I told them not necessarily because I'm paying Thai taxes on it nothing was ever mentioned again.
Although I was married I've never turned my retirement into a marriage. To be honest the number of Visa are very confusing there is an Immigration O, then there is an Immigration O-A many get them mixed up. I got the Imm-O and did it with my brother's help here in Pattaya, it was pretty easy. I highly suggest you don't do it in the States, more paperwork, the O-A can only be done in the States that is the one that you have medical insurance. On the surface, they are very similar to me not sure why anyone would want one with their restrictions especially if you are over 50 or retired.
Years back as many know being American, all you had to do was make an appointment at the Embassy for a letter of income of 1600 baht a hour later you had the letter stamp to use at your nearest Immigration office. They never verified the income just raise your hand honor system this I found out really bent the anti-American faction so a few years back the letter was discontinued personally not because the income wasn't verified but because someone wanted a cut of the process. There were millions involved and I mean millions.
So today you have two income methods, To each his own I find if you can put 800,000 baht into an account has to be in only your name find a backup plan if something happens to you the funds can be accessed or it is gone. Personally, a Well isn't going to do you shit especially one abroad even one done in Thailand. It has to be in the account 2 months prior to application and untouched thereafter for 3 months following approval it doesn't matter where it comes from. The income method is very time-consuming it has to be in the Thai account at a specific time and the marking on the deposit has to be a certain way to qualify. Expats that I know that need to use the income method use Wise you can contact wise that you need each month the transferred is marked a certain way on your deposit in your book. It isn't guaranteed they do try but one slip and you are screwed.
Although I could have turned my Imm-O into a marriage like my brother glad I didn't sure one advantage less money in baht and monthly income, the paperwork, having to go down each year to the Amphr and get the certification you still married, for years they came after to make home visits then it takes a good month for you to get your passport back.
If none of this appeals to you one can easily get one here in Pattaya, some call them agents, I know of a place if you want to obtain one year without doing the above. It runs between 12-15,000 baht but there are some drawbacks I know the number of Expat living here for a long time that does this instead of making border runs.
I did this years ago when I was in a sound mind, I can attest I have my shortcoming but I'm as honest as they come if you want to open an account obtain an ATM with that account give it to me to save keep with a letter instructing what and where the money is to go minus any expense I occur but today as I age my wife is even having doubts I remember what day it is?
Good luck thanks for listening but 800,000 is the easy way to do it.
Explorer8939
07-01-23, 10:07
Yeah. But would they want to leave it in a Thai bank is the question.I keep a million baht in my Bangkok Bank account. Never had a problem.
I didn't want to leave the lump sitting in a Thai bank making 0%, so instead I have it sitting in an American bank at 0. 25% (or some other shit rate. I don't even know what it is, but it's shit.) and hassle with the 65 k Bhat / month. Which is just a long way of saying you're right. Next time my visa comes up I'll be switching over to the 800 k set it and forget it method. I think there are even some, very few and also shit rate, options for interest bearing Thai accounts. I haven't homeworked that bit out myself yet, just repeating rumors, so don't quote me on that. But yeah, stick 800 k in the bank and give Immigration a few docs and a 1900 Bhat a year fee and you'll be looking a good bit smarter than me.Well, there again, are you going to be withdrawing a daily, weekly or monthly amount of baht out of that 800 K baht in your Thai bank account, roughly 66,000 baht X 12, to pay for all of your living and recreational expenses? And when it gets down to 100 K baht two or three months before your next trip to Immigration to extend your visa, will you be scrambling to make another large transfer from wherever to deposit the missing 700 K baht into that account? You know, you can't just make an 800 K baht deposit into that account the day before you go to Immigration to extend your visa. If your plan is to avoid the monthly Foreign Transfer method entirely, it needs to have been there in full a few months before you need to extend your visa and still be there in full the day you extend your visa.
Oh yes, the Immigration officer will require you to go to your bank's nearest Passbook Update Machine to update your passbook and show her the original passbook and a copy of that updated page dated the very day you are extending your visa.
And you won't just be showing Immigration your bank passbook as proof that the 800 K baht is there in full just as it was a few months prior. You will still need to produce a letter of verification from a bank officer that you have an account in that bank, the cost for that letter being 100 baht, just the same as I do when I hand them my 200 baht 12 month bank statement printout. I believe some Thai banks will provide that for free. Now, I could avoid paying 200 baht to have my bank print out the 12 previous months of Foreign Transfer activity as long as I am willing to carry around my bank passbook and update it in one of those machines every month, then make photo copies of every page for the previous 12 months to hand to Immigration. But asking my bank to do it all at once for the whole 12 months just a week or so before I head to Immigration is so much easier.
Anyway, I really don't see where any potential hassle has been reduced with the 800 K baht deposit method in that scenario.
On the other hand, if you are just going to leave that 800 K baht sitting in your Thai bank account year after year untouched just so you can show Immigration the proof of that along with the verification letter each time instead of the proof that you make a Foreign Transfer of at least 65,000 baht each month as I do, where is the money for your monthly living expenses supposed to come from? From a monthly Foreign Transfer? LOL. That is where my monthly living expenses come from. Usually much more than 65,000 baht each month. Therefore, as long as I am going to make those monthly 65,000+ baht Foreign Transfers into my Thai bank account anyway, why on Earth would I want to leave 800 K baht in my Thai bank account doing essentially nothing all year, much less year after year?
I can think of much better things to do with approximately $23,000 USD than leaving it sitting in a Thai bank producing practically nothing of value in return year after year. Meanwhile, some of my sources of those monthly Foreign Transfers are more than earning their keep in the USA and I can control whether or not to transfer a larger sum this month and a smaller sum next month or vice versa depending on the economic conditions of the moment, provided I transfer at least the equivalent of 65,000 baht each month, which is a snap to do with Wise.
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Although I was married I've never turned my retirement into a marriage. To be honest the number of Visa are very confusing there is an Immigration O, then there is an Immigration O-A many get them mixed up. I got the Imm-O and did it with my brother's help here in Pattaya, it was pretty easy. I highly suggest you don't do it in the States, more paperwork, the O-A can only be done in the States that is the one that you have medical insurance. On the surface, they are very similar to me not sure why anyone would want one with their restrictions especially if you are over 50 or retired.
...The O Non-Immigrant Visa is generally given when you apply for it in Thailand. The O-A Non Immigrant Visa is generally given when you apply for it in the USA, much as you said.
Also, much as you said, the O Non-Immigrant Visa does not require you to have the minimum health insurance coverage including for Covid. But the O-A Non Immigrant Visa does.
However, bear in mind the O Non-Immigrant Visa is "supposed" to be issued to people who have a Thai spouse, a Thai child or perhaps another close relative living in Thailand and you are "supposedly" applying for that Visa in order to visit or be close to them. Maybe you being here for serious medical treatment is another qualification for it, not sure. It remains to be discovered if or when any Immigration Officer will ask an O non-Immigrant Visa applicant or holder to provide proof of those qualifications.
BTW, the required amount of health insurance coverage for the O-A Non Immigrant Visa holder has rather quietly been increased to 3,000,000 baht. And it no longer needs to be split between In-Patient and Out-Patient coverage. It can be 100% In-Patient coverage. But it still needs to include coverage for Covid.
The only reason I can think of for me to allow my O-A Non Immigrant Visa to expire so I can start over with an O Non-Immigrant Visa would be to dodge that health insurance coverage requirement. However, that can be a foolish thing to do for anyone old enough to be retired and living full time in Thailand. Maybe at age 50 your prospects for needing expensive medical care in the country where you live is slight. But after 65 it is a different matter. Then the question is do I want to cancel my health insurance now to save a few thousand baht and, what, wait until some really serious medical issue pops up 5-10 years from now to start shopping for coverage? That's a really dumb plan, imo. For one thing, you will need to get a full medical check up before they issue you a policy and they will find out whatever this serious medical condition is. Consequently, they will exempt that pre-existing condition and not cover you for it. At best you will then get some coverage for stuff that isn't very serious, that you show no signs of having but since you are now applying at age 70+ or whatever you are going to start paying dearly for it.
Thankfully, I have not needed the Thai health insurance coverage I have been paying for since long before it was even required of O-A Non Immigrant Visa holders to have it. Not even for a single hour of hospitalization. But that is fine considering the health insurance Murphy's Law voodoo that I do indeed believe in; If you need it, you won't have it and if you have it, you won't need it.
HorseTrader
07-01-23, 18:16
I didn't want to leave the lump sitting in a Thai bank making 0%, so instead I have it sitting in an American bank at 0. 25% (or some other shit rate. I don't even know what it is, but it's shit.)Sounds like you are dealing with your local USA bank. I keep a small amount of money at such a bank, but I keep most of my "immediately available" money at FDIC internet banks that pay much better interest. For example, Discover Bank is now paying 4.25% on savings account whereas my local bank is paying 0.2%. You can do very quick online transfers of money to and from your local bank and an internet bank.
Well, there again, are you going to be withdrawing a daily, weekly or monthly amount of baht out of that 800 K baht in your Thai bank account, roughly 66,000 baht X 12, to pay for all of your living and recreational expenses? And when it gets down to 100 K baht two or three months before your next trip to Immigration to extend your visa, will you be scrambling to make another large transfer from wherever to deposit the missing 700 K baht into that account? You know, you can't just make an 800 K baht deposit into that account the day before you go to Immigration to extend your visa. If your plan is to avoid the monthly Foreign Transfer method entirely, it needs to have been there in full a few months before you need to extend your visa and still be there in full the day you extend your visa.
Oh yes, the Immigration officer will require you to go to your bank's nearest Passbook Update Machine to update your passbook and show her the original passbook and a copy of that updated page dated the very day you are extending your visa..Yes but to some the interest on 25 k is just "bread money."
Banana Boi
07-01-23, 19:51
For me just leave 800 k in a Thai bank. Unless there are signs of a coup or something leave it in there. For me it's worth ridding myself the headache of depositing this and that amount each month. When I looked into this a couple of years ago all I was reading was a bunch or Brits complaining how they changed the monthly deposit rules. I just thought to my are you kidding me why don't you just deposit 800 k into your bank account? I like things like Visas kept simple. That should not be my main worry when I'm retired. So much so I'm considering just buying a 10 or 20 year Thai Elite Visa. Anyone here have an Elite Visa?
BTW what insurance do those of you who are over 50 use when you are out of Thailand. I know there's Safety Wing but I hear they aren't great when you actually need to make a big claim. I'm not too worried about medical bills while I'm in countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia etc. They'll sting but not break me. I'm more concerned when I am traveling to Japan, Korea, Singapore, Canada, Europe, Dubai, etc.
Thai banks have not been faring too poorly compared to EU or US banks in terms of going bankrupt or risking to do so.
I like things like Visas kept simple. That should not be my main worry when I'm retired. So much so I'm considering just buying a 10 or 20 year Thai Elite Visa. Anyone here have an Elite Visa?These are the two options I'm considering, either 800 k in a Thai bank or first the 5 year Thai Elite then upgrading to the longer one if I'm still kicking and Thailand hasn't become the killing fields or something. Thai Elite sounds good just to not have to put up with most of the BS. If I work the next three years I'll probably go Thai Elite, otherwise I might go cheaper with the plain old retirement visa. Probably transfer most of my assets to baht gold since it's so easy to move back and forth in Thailand.
Does anyone know if you can make Thai bank accounts "payable on death" like you can in the USA? If I die in Thailand could my sister come over and get a "death certificate" to take to a Thai bank and claim my assets via "payable on death" or would I need a Thai will for that ? I know I'll need a Thai will if I own a condo or some other sort of property. If you die overseas can your beneficiary take your "death certificate" back to the USA and use it there for POD accounts?
For me just leave 800 k in a Thai bank. Unless there are signs of a coup or something leave it in there. For me it's worth ridding myself the headache of depositing this and that amount each month. When I looked into this a couple of years ago all I was reading was a bunch or Brits complaining how they changed the monthly deposit rules. I just thought to my are you kidding me why don't you just deposit 800 k into your bank account? I like things like Visas kept simple. That should not be my main worry when I'm retired. So much so I'm considering just buying a 10 or 20 year Thai Elite Visa. Anyone here have an Elite Visa?
BTW what insurance do those of you who are over 50 use when you are out of Thailand. I know there's Safety Wing but I hear they aren't great when you actually need to make a big claim. I'm not too worried about medical bills while I'm in countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia etc. They'll sting but not break me. I'm more concerned when I am traveling to Japan, Korea, Singapore, Canada, Europe, Dubai, etc.I think the 800 K deposit and just leave it there method is a good one if your plan is to travel around and live outside of Thailand a month here and there at a time all during retirement. My overview was really about living full time in Thailand as I do with only a few days or weeks per year traveling outside of Thailand.
I don't know what those Brits were complaining about. But the day each month that I get money automatically deposited into my USA bank account from various sources such as a pension, Social Security, rental property, etc, usually on the 1st to 3rd day of the month, I transfer $2500 -$3500 USD of it all at once to my Thai bank account via Wise after selecting the "Funds for long term stay in Thailand" option as my reason for the transfer.
That takes about 1 minute and at least by the afternoon of the next business day that money lands in my Thai bank account ready to be spent on my monthly living / entertainment expenses or, for that matter, travel expenses to wherever.
That is all there is to it. It's a snap. If I choose other options as my reason for the transfer I might get the money in my Thai bank account within seconds. The "Funds for long term stay in Thailand" option takes a few hours longer, usually until the next business day if I want it to show up as a "Foreign Transfer" on my Thai bank statement. Which I do. And that is the statement I hand over to Immigration when I go there to extend my visa to prove I made those monthly transfers just as the 800 K depositor needs to show them the bank statement for that situation every year.
Of course, if I need more money than that in a given month I simply open my Wise app and 1 minute later more money is on the way. But I know I will spend at least $2500 USD in that month of living and recreating in Thailand whether I have another 800 K baht sitting in my Thai bank account or not and I know $2500 USD will equal at least 65,000 baht and show up as such on my Thai bank statement.
Maybe it is more of a hassle than that for Brits lately. Don't know.
LittleBigMan
07-03-23, 03:25
The O Non-Immigrant Visa is generally given when you apply for it in Thailand. The O-A Non Immigrant Visa is generally given when you apply for it in the USA, much as you said.
Also, much as you said, the O Non-Immigrant Visa does not require you to have the minimum health insurance coverage including for Covid. But the O-A Non Immigrant Visa does.
However, bear in mind the O Non-Immigrant Visa is "supposed" to be issued to people who have a Thai spouse, a Thai child or perhaps another close relative living in Thailand and you are "supposedly" applying for that Visa in order to visit or be close to them. Maybe you being here for serious medical treatment is another qualification for it, not sure. It remains to be discovered if or when any Immigration Officer will ask an O non-Immigrant Visa applicant or holder to provide proof of those qualifications.
BTW, the required amount of health insurance coverage for the O-A Non Immigrant Visa holder has rather quietly been increased to 3,000,000 baht. And it no longer needs to be split between In-Patient and Out-Patient coverage. It can be 100% In-Patient coverage. But it still needs to include coverage for Covid.
The only reason I can think of for me to allow my O-A Non Immigrant Visa to expire so I can start over with an O Non-Immigrant Visa would be to dodge that health insurance coverage requirement. However, that can be a foolish thing to do for anyone old enough to be retired and living full time in Thailand. Maybe at age 50 your prospects for needing expensive medical care in the country where you live is slight. But after 65 it is a different matter. Then the question is do I want to cancel my health insurance now to save a few thousand baht and, what, wait until some really serious medical issue pops up 5-10 years from now to start shopping for coverage? That's a really dumb plan, imo. For one thing, you will need to get a full medical check up before they issue you a policy and they will find out whatever this serious medical condition is. Consequently, they will exempt that pre-existing condition and not cover you for it. At best you will then get some coverage for stuff that isn't very serious, that you show no signs of having but since you are now applying at age 70+ or whatever you are going to start paying dearly for it.
Thankfully, I have not needed the Thai health insurance coverage I have been paying for since long before it was even required of O-A Non Immigrant Visa holders to have it. Not even for a single hour of hospitalization. But that is fine considering the health insurance Murphy's Law voodoo that I do indeed believe in; If you need it, you won't have it and if you have it, you won't need it.When I did apply it was pretty simple I hear about all these types of visas like the elite, personally, I wouldn't spend the money I don't see any advantage to kicking out that money to get one. As for having to be married to get an Imm-O not sure about that. I help a number of friends and family who retired here single and use Thailand as a base to travel.
As for insurance, I can write a book on it, since I came here 15 plus years without buying since I arrived with local companies never using several years ago I stopped buying for a number of reasons one was they wanted the same premium for half the coverage went from 1. 5 million to 700,000. In general, even if they don't cancel you will price you out of the market. Coverage here they want you to basically be a perfect specimen to take you. By the time you reach 60, you will start to see the premium rise even if no claim is made expect a 2-4,000 baht increase many of the policies sold here for expats don't cover many items like cancer etc I have a policy for my Thai son and the coverage for Thais are far more extensive. I've had Thai, LMG, Bupa, AXA, Pacific? And others pretty much will suck you drive. Policies for little coverage from the above would run you 75,000 baht a year if you pass their requirement. Personally, today since I'm still able to run back and forth yearly plan ahead and use my Medicare benefits so far so good while at the same time putting aside money, taking care of myself, finding alternatives, clinics for small stuff, and reasonable alternative hospitals for long stays.
So as noted if you already have a policy and the cost is no problem keep it, if not the best is to seek policies abroad where you got some consumer recourse for they are costly and will cover you in other countries while you travel.
As for money in the bank, I read your statement maybe it is different in Bangkok, but here in Jomtien, the rule of thumb is the 800,000 baht prior to reapplying must be intact 2 months prior and after granted can't be touched for another 3 months. Thereafter you can use the money but NEVER dip below 400,000 baht. Depending on who you are I had a good friend, not all marble is there had 800,000 baht and got his extension within hours for whatever reason withdrew money and his balance dipped just under 800,000 baht and was told his extension was invalid to start over again. Being Thailand took a small walk outside settle up 5000 baht and extended back in business.
Explorer8939
07-15-23, 03:05
I have 2 trips lined up next week, each with 2 ladies.
The first trip is Singapore. The two ladies will share a room with me, as the 2 ladies are hard core bargirls. Will they fuck me in front of the other? Probably.
The second trip is Koh Lipe, where we will have 2 rooms. I will alternate nights, so I will sleep with them separately. However, one of the ladies has a non-platonic interest in the other. So maybe something will happen.
My problem with Thai retirement visas are the ever changing rules, the inconsistency, the arbitrariness, the lines at Chaeng Wattana (great food), the reporting, the forms, etc.
Not even counting my total desire to avoid Thai banking. And yes I already have a Thai bank account. And the politics? Oi Vey.
But, YMMV.
Anyway, I have to move some household effects to Siem Reap. Ayone have some experience in this regard? Nothing super big, clothes, Kitchen stuff, etc.
A friend of mine has been wrongly blacklisted from Thailand because of a malicious report from an ex bar girl he had hooked up with. This means if he tries to fly into Thailand he might get a DNB (Do Not Board) and, if allowed board, he will definitely be stopped, detained and deported at his own expense at passport control.
It is important to note that he has cleared up the mess caused in his own country regarding her false report. She had passed her complaint to the cops there who contacted the Thai cops for feedback but the Thais misread the request, or so they say. So, he should be in the clear but he has no guarantee the Thais removed his name from the blacklist.
This notice is to ask for advice on how he should proceed. Some tips are given here https://aseannow.com/topic/1044925-wrongfully-blacklisted-what-can-i-do-to-remove-my-name/.
The consensus seems to be to contact a Thai lawyer but consensus says they are very expensive and, without a personal lead, I would imagine they would be almost useless.
The other way is DIY. But there are two problems here. Thailand's immigration offices are in Thailand so a personal visit is out of the question. Added to that is generally the Thais do not care about foreigners, which is why their prisons have a fearsome reputation.
Personally, I feel he should just forget about Thailand.
I do know about others who got into scrapes in the Philippines and managed to get out with some dodgy help. But, as he is not in Thailand, I think he should write it all off.
Does anyone know if you can make Thai bank accounts "payable on death" like you can in the USA? If I die in Thailand could my sister come over and get a "death certificate" to take to a Thai bank and claim my assets via "payable on death" or would I need a Thai will for that ? I know I'll need a Thai will if I own a condo or some other sort of property. If you die overseas can your beneficiary take your "death certificate" back to the USA and use it there for POD accounts?https://www.thaiembassy.com/property/thai-probate-and-inheritance-law#text=In%20 situations%20 where%20 anyone%20 dies, distributed%20 among%20 his%20 legal%20 heirs.
https://www.thaiembassy.com/property/my-dad-died-in-thailand
You might find the two links from the same site useful. Though there are many sites like it, my own limited Western experience is these things can be hell, with banks etc very slow to hand over $$ across borders. It probably boils down to the issue I have about blacklists: the need to get a good Thai lawyer one can trust.
I think heaven help your sister if she lands in and some Thai lawyer thinks she is there for the financial plucking.
my own limited Western experience is these things can be hell, with banks etc very slow to hand over $$ across borders. It probably boils down to the issue I have about blacklists: the need to get a good Thai lawyer one can trust.
I think heaven help your sister if she lands in and some Thai lawyer thinks she is there for the financial plucking.Thanks to everyone for the feedback in this thread. Finding an honest lawyer, hope that's an achievable goal. LOL.
Explorer8939
08-10-23, 04:08
I have 2 trips lined up next week, each with 2 ladies.
The first trip is Singapore. The two ladies will share a room with me, as the 2 ladies are hard core bargirls. Will they fuck me in front of the other? Probably.
The second trip is Koh Lipe, where we will have 2 rooms. I will alternate nights, so I will sleep with them separately. However, one of the ladies has a non-platonic interest in the other. So maybe something will happen.The Singapore trip was interesting. One lady stated at the outset that she was too shy to fuck in front of the other lady. She got over it.
I spent an extra night in Bangkok alone with one of the ladies. She was going to see her Thai husband the next day, so the fucking was perfunctory. But then she woke me up at 4 am to fuck, I guess she couldn't wait.
The Lipe trip was fun, I just switched rooms with the ladies every night.
SBlack0070
08-10-23, 14:53
I'm visiting Bangkok only for some few hours and need your advice.
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 5 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.
I will have 3 hours minimum to have some fun so please support!
Banana Boi
08-10-23, 18:24
Is there any chance if I can get an erotic massage with FS near the Suvarnabhum airport?
As the connecting flight is just 5 hrs away I don't want to take risk of going in the city so please help.In the BKK thread your post was 4 hours between flights. Now it's 5 hours? Is the flight domestic within Thailand or International? How much of an issue would it be if you missed the flight? Would it be the worse thing to take the next flight out?
My answer will be the exact same as those who responded to you in the Bangkok thread. Immigration is the major issue here. We can't predict if immigration to get in and out of BKK will be 15 minutes or 2 hours each way. It all depends on how many flights land / depart at the same time. 5 hours is clearly better than 4 hours. At 4 hours I would never risk it unless it's a domestic flight. At 5 hours it may be ok as long as you don't mind taking the chance of having to buy another plane ticket to your destination. Is this Thai massage near the airport by a 40 year old Thai lady worth the risk to you?
Just saw a report that the owners of Absolute Angels Bangkok have been arrested. Something about clients getting robbed.
Just saw a report that the owners of Absolute Angels Bangkok have been arrested. Something about clients getting robbed.Can you reference the report you saw, so we can find out if it's genuine or fake news released to simply discredit them unfairly.
Can you reference the report you saw, so we can find out if it's genuine or fake news released to simply discredit them unfairly.There are a few reports about it online searching for "Absolute Angels Bangkok arrest" . Found this one: https://www.huahintoday.com/local-news/american-national-and-thai-wife-in-hua-hin-arrested-for-operating-escort-website/.
There are a few reports about it online searching for "Absolute Angels Bangkok arrest" . Found this one: https://www.huahintoday.com/local-news/american-national-and-thai-wife-in-hua-hin-arrested-for-operating-escort-website/.Wow that's a good chunk of change they made. Should have quit while they were ahead.
Wow that's a good chunk of change they made. Should have quit while they were ahead.I am still seeing the ads for the site and site itself is still up.
Wow that's a good chunk of change they made. Should have quit while they were ahead.Unfortunately people never know when to stop. Making money is an addiction. Wonder if they knew what some of the girls antics were?
There are a few reports about it online searching for "Absolute Angels Bangkok arrest" . Found this one: https://www.huahintoday.com/local-news/american-national-and-thai-wife-in-hua-hin-arrested-for-operating-escort-website/.The website still up but they were overpriced for what they advertise.
Explorer8939
08-20-23, 02:28
Unfortunately people never know when to stop. Making money is an addiction. Wonder if they knew what some of the girls antics were?Reading between the lines, the stories of robbery were just a pretext for the police to raid the agency.
After all, if you were robbed by a lady from that agency, how does a police raid on the agency help you?
Police certainly did a good job of finding that couples assets.
Police certainly did a good job of finding that couples assets.I don't think it was that hard. After all, I'm sure somebody in the echelons was aware of what's going on in exchange for remuneration.
MarioGoetze99
08-22-23, 21:57
I am looking for an outdoor massage with happy ending somewhere in Thailand. I think that is incredibly hard to find. It would be so nice to experience HJ in free nature, maybe in a garden or terrace. Does anybody know if such massage parlors exist somewhere in Thailand? Would be happy to know and thanks to anybody in advance.
Its very possible they exist especially in those high sweltering temperatures, good luck mate.
I am looking for an outdoor massage with happy ending somewhere in Thailand. I think that is incredibly hard to find. It would be so nice to experience HJ in free nature, maybe in a garden or terrace. Does anybody know if such massage parlors exist somewhere in Thailand? Would be happy to know and thanks to anybody in advance.
Banana Boi
08-24-23, 10:47
I am looking for an outdoor massage with happy ending somewhere in Thailand. I think that is incredibly hard to find. It would be so nice to experience HJ in free nature, maybe in a garden or terrace. Sounds like you need to go to a German FKK but given your name I feel you are from there. There are some REAL G Clubs with outdoor pools like Cosy Beach Club in Pratumnak Hill or Passion in Jomtien that may fill your desire. Not exactly what you were asking but if you rented something like the Penthouse Suite in Pattaya's View Talay 6 that suite faces Beach Road. It has a very large wrap around balcony and no one will be able to see anything you're doing. Then find the massage girl you desire to come over. It's an 180 sqm 2 bedroom condo so it's not cheap at all. IIRC it was around 8000-10000 baht per night back in 2015.
I am looking for an outdoor massage with happy ending somewhere in Thailand. I think that is incredibly hard to find. It would be so nice to experience HJ in free nature, maybe in a garden or terrace. Does anybody know if such massage parlors exist somewhere in Thailand? Would be happy to know and thanks to anybody in advance.Thais are quite shy and prude in public as far as sex and affection is referred to.
There are a few reports about it online searching for "Absolute Angels Bangkok arrest" . Found this one: https://www.huahintoday.com/local-news/american-national-and-thai-wife-in-hua-hin-arrested-for-operating-escort-website/.They have a banner on this site too.
Understanding the legality. Does anyone have a pharmacy recommendation for Codeine in Bangkok or Pattaya? I am bone to bone on both knees with significant deterioration as well. Walking around Thailand causes me misery. Getting medication in the USA is close to impossible nowadays with the current hysteria.
Last trip March 2023 I did not find the accommodating pharmacy. Earlier trips 2007 and on I always found a small shop that could fill my needs. Once again I understand the legal status but also know that there are small shops that can help. I will be back in BKK & Pattaya 1st week of September. Feel free to PM if you prefer not to post.
TIA.
Guido88.
Understanding the legality. Does anyone have a pharmacy recommendation for Codeine in Bangkok or Pattaya? I am bone to bone on both knees with significant deterioration as well. Walking around Thailand causes me misery. Getting medication in the USA is close to impossible nowadays with the current hysteria.
Last trip March 2023 I did not find the accommodating pharmacy. Earlier trips 2007 and on I always found a small shop that could fill my needs. Once again I understand the legal status but also know that there are small shops that can help. I will be back in BKK & Pattaya 1st week of September. Feel free to PM if you prefer not to post.
TIA.
Guido88.Why not see a doctor there and get a prescription?
Understanding the legality. Does anyone have a pharmacy recommendation for Codeine in Bangkok or Pattaya? I am bone to bone on both knees with significant deterioration as well. Walking around Thailand causes me misery. Getting medication in the USA is close to impossible nowadays with the current hysteria.
Last trip March 2023 I did not find the accommodating pharmacy. Earlier trips 2007 and on I always found a small shop that could fill my needs. Once again I understand the legal status but also know that there are small shops that can help. I will be back in BKK & Pattaya 1st week of September. Feel free to PM if you prefer not to post.
TIA.
Guido88.In Bangkok and Pattaya there are a myriad of doctors and clinics that I am sure would write you an appropriate prescription. And there is the added benefit that you won't run afoul of the police if they happen to find the drugs.
In Bangkok and Pattaya there are a myriad of doctors and clinics that I am sure would write you an appropriate prescription. And there is the added benefit that you won't run afoul of the police if they happen to find the drugs.From what I have read Thai doctors are hesitant to prescribe any Opiates. Typical knee treatment is Voltaren, draining the knee, Steroids or another anti-inflamatory. I have tried everything over the last 20 years and know what works. The only consistent long term option that has helped has been to use painkillers.
At the moment I only have a couple hundred feet of walking in me per day "1/4 of the way down Soi 6". Knee replacement for me is complicated by other issues.
I am not adverse to giving a Thai doctor a chance. Worst case seeing a Thai doc is risking a $100 or $200 and a few hours. As much as I hate Steroid's a shot in each knee might be of benefit for a few days.
I will see what happens.
Thanks.
Guido88.
Explorer8939
08-28-23, 02:01
Important to know: there is no gratitude in Thailand, it's an alien concept.
Consequently (as an example), you won't get a better fuck from a lady if you take her to an expensive hotel (as long as the hotel has the basics, she's okay). You have no idea what the lady is thinking, but you can be sure that she doesn't care about the quality of the hotel. So, save your money.
Don't send ladies money after you go home. The lady in bed with me right now gets 4000 baht a week from some lonely guy. That gives her money so she can take a night or two off every week to chase and fuck young Indian men.
Lending money to bargirls is a bad idea, they rarely pay you back, and they use the money to make their Thai boyfriends happy.
This is not to say that bargirls place no value on you as a returning customer, but you don't have to throw money at them to achieve the exalted status of "customer before". As long as you honor your part of the deal, ie pay what you promise to pay, then the bargirl will generally prefer you over someone she doesn't know.
In fact, even if she has pledged her undying love for some other customer, she will often break the rules for a "customer before".
Explorer8939
08-28-23, 05:13
Explorer's Corollary to the Three Day Rule:
If you take a lady for 3 or more days, there is a 30% probability she will have her period after day 1.
Surprise, surprise!
Can I add, if you have banged her hard or for longer on day 1, then definitely yes.
If you have paid her in advance for all 3 days, then definitely yes.
If you take longer to cum, then definitely yes.
They all want it easy.
Explorer's Corollary to the Three Day Rule:
If you take a lady for 3 or more days, there is a 30% probability she will have her period after day 1.
Surprise, surprise!
Lending money to bargirls is a bad idea, they rarely pay you back, and they use the money to make their Thai boyfriends happy.
From my experiences lending money to "anyone" is a bad idea. If you do it, might as well consider it a gift. Everyone in their life, including themselves, is a higher priority to them than paying you back is.
The only things I'm pretty sure I know about bar girls is they do not like to walk very far at all, and they like to eat often. Pay for a ride to get them back to your hotel, and maybe feed them on the way too.
Just like in Thailand, it costs a Thai $1. 10 to go to a national park. It costs foreigners 5 times as much. Should foreigners be happy to pay 5 times as much because it will change Thailand or are foreigners being taken advantage of?Yes they should and the government of Thailand is being smart by doing it.
I for one prefer to pay according to how much something costs without the price being adjusted for how much I may have or what I may be worth.
"Entry fee: National park entrance fee is 200 THB for Non-Thai adults and 100 for Non-Thai children, for Thai adults it is 40 THB, and for Thai children, it is 20 THB, parking for cars is 30 Baht. .Well then you must not buy insurance. All insurance is priced on categories of risk. Life, Health, Car, Homeowners you are going to get a different price than the next guy depending upon the risk you are presenting to the insurance company. So if you buy insurance (and I know you do) the idea that you don't pay for goods or services based on the price being adjusted is an inaccurate statement on your part.
Are you telling me that if your are a resident of Thailand they still charge you the non-Thai price? Because if they do not charge residents a different rate from Thai citizens then you simply correct the problem by becoming a resident. Did you know because I have an address Las Vegas, I pay less for everything in Las Vegas than visitors do? That is a policy that is conducted in the Dis (United States of America.
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. But not there own facts.
Hi.
I have a simple question. I am staying in Pattaya for 2 week.
My phone number in Pattaya begin with +6663-XXX-XXXX.
If someone wants to contact me directly from the United States by phone.
Should they dial a 0 before the 66. (I. E.) 06663 to reach me?
Thanks.
TC.
Mr Enternational
09-04-23, 01:33
If someone wants to contact me directly from the United States by phone. Should they dial a 0 before the 66. (I. E.) 06663 to reach me?
If they are calling from a landline it would be 166. If they are calling from a cell phone it would be +66.
Banana Boi
09-04-23, 06:36
Are you telling me that if your are a resident of Thailand they still charge you the non-Thai price? Because if they do not charge residents a different rate from Thai citizens then you simply correct the problem by becoming a resident. Did you know because I have an address Las Vegas, I pay less for everything in Las Vegas than visitors do? Yep, in Vegas residents get free entry in to strip clubs like Rhino and and Sapphire. I came very close to buying a condo in Vegas because of this sole reason. Turns out that would have been a fantastic investment cause condo prices were cheap when I was looking.
In Tokyo, I know a rock climbing facility that charges 500 yen for Shibuya residents and 1000 yen even if you're Japanese living outside of Shibuya. Shibuya is only 6 square miles in an 847 square mile city!
I hate the Thailand Farang surcharge like anyone else but similar stuff exists even in Japan and USA..
Mr Enternational
09-04-23, 08:08
If they are calling from a landline it would be 166. If they are calling from a cell phone it would be +66.Sorry site messed it up. Zero one one six six, not 166.
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Are you telling me that if your are a resident of Thailand they still charge you the non-Thai price? Because if they do not charge residents a different rate from Thai citizens then you simply correct the problem by becoming a resident. Did you know because I have an address Las Vegas, I pay less for everything in Las Vegas than visitors do? That is a policy that is conducted in the Dis (United States of America.
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. But not there own facts.Could you explain how you "correct the problem by becoming a resident" in Thailand? You don't seem to know much about Thailand. Thailand doesn't grant residency to foreigners, much less citizenship. Thailand grants only visas. Even the visas where it says "resident" (like the new LTR, ie "long-term-resident" visa), are still nothing but visas.
From what I have read Thai doctors are hesitant to prescribe any Opiates. Typical knee treatment is Voltaren, draining the knee, Steroids or another anti-inflamatory. I have tried everything over the last 20 years and know what works. The only consistent long term option that has helped has been to use painkillers.
At the moment I only have a couple hundred feet of walking in me per day "1/4 of the way down Soi 6". Knee replacement for me is complicated by other issues.
I am not adverse to giving a Thai doctor a chance. Worst case seeing a Thai doc is risking a $100 or $200 and a few hours. As much as I hate Steroid's a shot in each knee might be of benefit for a few days.
I will see what happens.
Thanks.
Guido88.Kratom tea is legal. If you buy it from the same seller, ie near Bukhao fruit market, the strength tends to be predictable. Kratom is a real opiate that gives you a real opiate buzz depending on the dose though. If you use it for pain test your limits at first. Also, read the discussion about its addictive potential. I allow myself no more a small bottle of kratom tea each week for recreational purposes.
Otherwise I've heard of people getting prescriptions for oxycodone (special delayed onset tablets that cannot be crushed, non abusable).
Tramadol is OTC in Thailand.
Kratom tea is legal. If you buy it from the same seller, ie near Bukhao fruit market, the strength tends to be predictable. Kratom is a real opiate that gives you a real opiate buzz depending on the dose though. If you use it for pain test your limits at first. Also, read the discussion about its addictive potential. I allow myself no more a small bottle of kratom tea each week for recreational purposes.
Otherwise I've heard of people getting prescriptions for oxycodone (special delayed onset tablets that cannot be crushed, non abusable).
Tramadol is OTC in Thailand.Tramadol is classified as the same as most opiate drugs that need a doctor's prescription in most cases. It is a mild opiate, but I would be very surprised if it was available as an over the counter medication that did not need a doctor's script. I just had a full knee replacement and tramadol is very helpful when the pain returns and my leg starts to stiffen up. Do you know which pharmacy would provide it without a prescription? Thanks.
Tramadol is classified as the same as most opiate drugs that need a doctor's prescription in most cases. It is a mild opiate, but I would be very surprised if it was available as an over the counter medication that did not need a doctor's script. I just had a full knee replacement and tramadol is very helpful when the pain returns and my leg starts to stiffen up. Do you know which pharmacy would provide it without a prescription? Thanks.I've bought Tramadol over the counter a few times for back pain. I've never been asked for a prescription, but these were from local, small independent chemists. Probably under the law a prescription is required, but this being Thailand the law isn't always strictly followed. I can't recommend a particular chemist, but try any small independent one and avoid the large chains like Boots or Watsons.
Tramadol ... Do you know which pharmacy would provide it without a prescription?Technically needs a prescription, but this is Thailand.
Some of the mom and pop shops will sell Ultracet (tramadol + paracetmol) without a prescription, but not the big chains I. E. Boots, Watson's etc. I don't know about straight tramadol, never tried. Also it's been a while, so I can't really give exact locations. They change all the time anyway. You'll just have to go door to door. There are some mom and pop places in the tourist ghetto downtown but I always preferred shopping around Victory Monument. There's an enormous Thai hospital complex there, and dozens of little pharmacies scattered around nearby.
(Edit) I see SiamMan beat me by two minutes LOL.
I am 52 and from the US and plan to visit Thailand for trekking, hiking, climbing. I want to do things that involve the jungle, camping and seeing the natural beauty of the country. I would love to find a female companion to act as my wilderness, backcountry guide plus be very willing and open to sex. What is the best way to find a 20-30 yr old who is active and interested in the outdoors? Has anyone camped in Thailand in there national parks? . Trying to see if I can combine my love of hiking / climbing with a Thai hotty. I would likely stay for 7-10 days.
Technically needs a prescription, but this is Thailand.
Some of the mom and pop shops will sell Ultracet (tramadol + paracetmol) without a prescription, but not the big chains I. E. Boots, Watson's etc. I don't know about straight tramadol, never tried. Also it's been a while, so I can't really give exact locations. They change all the time anyway. You'll just have to go door to door. There are some mom and pop places in the tourist ghetto downtown but I always preferred shopping around Victory Monument. There's an enormous Thai hospital complex there, and dozens of little pharmacies scattered around nearby.
(Edit) I see SiamMan beat me by two minutes LOL.I appreciate the detailed info!
I am 52 and from the US and plan to visit Thailand for trekking, hiking, climbing. I want to do things that involve the jungle, camping and seeing the natural beauty of the country. I would love to find a female companion to act as my wilderness, backcountry guide plus be very willing and open to sex. What is the best way to find a 20-30 yr old who is active and interested in the outdoors? Has anyone camped in Thailand in there national parks? . Trying to see if I can combine my love of hiking / climbing with a Thai hotty. I would likely stay for 7-10 days.Hahaha yeah that's not happening man, you're not getting some sex worker to be a wilderness 'guide' in thailand. She'll go on a trip with you if you pay of course, they don't give a fuck as long as the money is right, people take girls for days or on trips and such all the time. But this is something they might not be interested in, they generally like to do things that involves city life, or beach etc and places you can take them shopping so they can laugh at you in thai as they take your money, not going on treks or being guides.
I mean I guess you could spam some girls to see if anyone wanted to do it, but you're on shaky ground.
Of course you can hire guides and such no problem, money talks in thailand, just don't expect your guide to blow you.
I am 52 and from the US and plan to visit Thailand for trekking, hiking, climbing. I want to do things that involve the jungle, camping and seeing the natural beauty of the country. I would love to find a female companion to act as my wilderness, backcountry guide plus be very willing and open to sex. What is the best way to find a 20-30 yr old who is active and interested in the outdoors? Has anyone camped in Thailand in there national parks? . Trying to see if I can combine my love of hiking / climbing with a Thai hotty. I would likely stay for 7-10 days.You are not going to get much help. 5 years of no field reports and you surface for more help again. Good luck.
I appreciate the detailed info!Following the post from CHOP and his mention of ULTRACET, I double checked and it turns out what I got recently was in fact Ultracet, and not pure Tramadol. Ultracet is Tramadol combined with Paracetamol; and as such should be fairly easy to find.
Mr Enternational
09-06-23, 04:57
Hahaha yeah that's not happening man, you're not getting some sex worker to be a wilderness 'guide' in thailand. Of course you can hire guides and such no problem, money talks in thailand, just don't expect your guide to blow you.I agree and disagree. A sex worker will guide him up to the wilderness of Isaan for him to spend a bunch of money on her family. Thai people like camping just as much as everybody else. The problem is regular Thai people that are not hookers. So he would have to meet a non-hooker chick for shit like that. I 100% would not recommend the climbing that he is talking about. Safety standards are not the same here as in other countries. As in guys working on skyscrapers with no safety harness. Road crews repaving or digging big ass ditches in the road with flip flops on. Mfs getting electrocuted daily in their homes due to faulty wiring. Folks falling off balconies because the railing only comes up to your knees.
"Hong Kong CNN —Some thrill seekers describe bungee jumping as a near-death experience, but few come quite as close as one man who managed to survive his cord snapping in Thailand. ".
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/thailand-bungee-jump-snap-intl-hnk/index.html
Explorer8939
09-06-23, 05:50
I am 52 and from the US and plan to visit Thailand for trekking, hiking, climbing. I want to do things that involve the jungle, camping and seeing the natural beauty of the country. I would love to find a female companion to act as my wilderness, backcountry guide plus be very willing and open to sex. What is the best way to find a 20-30 yr old who is active and interested in the outdoors? Has anyone camped in Thailand in there national parks? . Trying to see if I can combine my love of hiking / climbing with a Thai hotty. I would likely stay for 7-10 days.This is not culturally a thing in Thailand. You will probably spend your vacation looking for a willing lady. If you find one, there is a high probability she will want to bail after a few days.
Explorer8939
09-06-23, 06:00
From my experiences lending money to "anyone" is a bad idea. If you do it, might as well consider it a gift. Everyone in their life, including themselves, is a higher priority to them than paying you back is.
The only things I'm pretty sure I know about bar girls is they do not like to walk very far at all, and they like to eat often. Pay for a ride to get them back to your hotel, and maybe feed them on the way too.I had a lady try the "Escalator" con on me.
She started by borrowing and paying back 1000 baht. Then 2000 baht.
Then 3000 baht. Prompt repayment.
But the next day, she asked for 10,000 baht. That was the loan she would never pay back, so I declined.
Tramadol is classified as the same as most opiate drugs that need a doctor's prescription in most cases. It is a mild opiate, but I would be very surprised if it was available as an over the counter medication that did not need a doctor's script. I just had a full knee replacement and tramadol is very helpful when the pain returns and my leg starts to stiffen up. Do you know which pharmacy would provide it without a prescription? Thanks.I thought it was OTC because I got it no questions asked from the first pharmacy I asked. Can't remember where, small pharmacy in Pattaya somewhere (2nd Road? Soi Bukao?). What I got was pure Tramadol.
Could you explain how you "correct the problem by becoming a resident" in Thailand? You don't seem to know much about Thailand. Thailand doesn't grant residency to foreigners, much less citizenship. Thailand grants only visas. Even the visas where it says "resident" (like the new LTR, ie "long-term-resident" visa), are still nothing but visas.You are telling me that when you get a residency visa (say for retirement) all it grants you is the ability to stay in the country?
If Thailand is not like other countries where if you get a residency visa you get a national ID card to go with it (I. E. The cedula granted by the Colombian or Dominican Republic governments) when they grant you a residency visa.
First trip to Thailand OH great one. I bow to you superior expertise. Please educate me. ROTFLMAO!.
I 100% would not recommend the climbing that he is talking about. Safety standards are not the same here as in other countries. As in guys working on skyscrapers with no safety harness. Road crews repaving or digging big ass ditches in the road with flip flops on. Mfs getting electrocuted daily in their homes due to faulty wiring. Folks falling off balconies because the railing only comes up to your knees.I agree 100% with what you said and would add fires in big hotels (I personally avoid big hotels mostly for this reason) or nightclubs (especially the ones you can enter only by taking an elevator like Sugar Sugar in Bkk).
In order to keep myself from getting into trouble as a newbie / new poster. I will stick to colors instead of names. I am an expert in nothing Pattaya. But some experiences translate across countries. And I am reporting mine.
After pulling money out of several different brands of ATMs during my trip I now exclusively use the yellow ones. They have the name that starts with a K and often are next to the TT Money Exchange booths that are also yellow. The yellow ones allow me to pull 30,000 THB at a time. I prefer using "cash on the barrel head" as they say. Untraceable.
As for money exchanges I was walking past a TT Money Exchange booth tonight after stopping at a local place and having them make me some chicken fried rice. Made fresh while I waited and nice portion. I got it for take out and enjoyed it in my "room". 50 THB. But I digress. It was showing a rate of 35.77 THB for 1 USD.
Newbie tip: It is best to think in the currency of the country you are in. Here in Thailand that is THB. I use a simple method to translate THB into USD in my head. 100 THB is 3 USD. And in addition, learn LOCAL prices and get yourself off the tourist economy. Now, everyone can spend their money how they choose. Just friendly advice from a newbie / new poster but experienced worldwide expat.
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Explorer8939
09-21-23, 00:14
https://aseannow.com/topic/1307148-thai-police-dismantles-4-hubs-of-escort-websites-serving-foreigners/
It's hard to know if this is a real crackdown.
I know folks use their Schwab accounts to avoid ATM fees, but I just heard something I haven't seen mentioned in any WSG forum previously. Once you have a Thai address you can contact Schwab to have your account converted to an international account. Once you've done that you can avoid transfer fees when moving money to your Thai bank. Only catch is I think this only applies to USA accounts.
Mr Enternational
09-22-23, 19:24
I know folks use their Schwab accounts to avoid ATM fees, but I just heard something I haven't seen mentioned in any WSG forum previously. Once you have a Thai address you can contact Schwab to have your account converted to an international account. Once you've done that you can avoid transfer fees when moving money to your Thai bank. Only catch is I think this only applies to USA accounts."Minimum to open A minimum deposit of US $25,000 is required to open a Schwab One International account. ".
I know folks use their Schwab accounts to avoid ATM fees, but I just heard something I haven't seen mentioned in any WSG forum previously. Once you have a Thai address you can contact Schwab to have your account converted to an international account. Once you've done that you can avoid transfer fees when moving money to your Thai bank. Only catch is I think this only applies to USA accounts.Oh interesting maybe my next trip I'll see if one of my guests would let me use their address LOL.
Let us know how it goes if you do set it up. Wondering what rate they use when you do decide to move some money to the Thai bank.
Oh interesting maybe my next trip I'll see if one of my guests would let me use their address LOL.
Let us know how it goes if you do set it up. Wondering what rate they use when you do decide to move some money to the Thai bank.Doing some searching other than just word of mouth I've seen mention of Schwab having $25 transfer fee which gets reduced to $15 if the transfer is made online.
"Minimum to open A minimum deposit of US $25,000 is required to open a Schwab One International account. ".Good to know, hadn't seen mention of that anywhere either.
On my last trip I discovered that a lot of places now accept Samsung Wallet Pay formerly know as Samsung Pay. Which probably means they also accept Apple Pay. I used my Samsung phone with Samsung Wallet to pay at 7-11's and many restaurants. Since Samsung Wallet keeps my credit card number private (they use a virtual number) I find this to be a very safe method for using my credit card. The exchange rate is excellent, too.
Explorer8939
09-24-23, 03:53
Typical sponsor loser story:
This bargirl is begging her sponsor for cash for her birthday. What he doesn't know is she is in Oman making big money.
I am 52 and from the US and plan to visit Thailand for trekking, hiking, climbing. I want to do things that involve the jungle, camping and seeing the natural beauty of the country. I would love to find a female companion to act as my wilderness, backcountry guide plus be very willing and open to sex. What is the best way to find a 20-30 yr old who is active and interested in the outdoors? Has anyone camped in Thailand in there national parks? . Trying to see if I can combine my love of hiking / climbing with a Thai hotty. I would likely stay for 7-10 days.Easy. Go to the national parks and find a girl there.
Raj Patela
10-04-23, 04:14
Easy. Go to the national parks and find a girl there.Girl Guides of Thailand. Trust ME.
OldSchool318
10-07-23, 02:01
In my office I turn the sound down and watch a lot of Thai YouTube vids.
Noticed the girls repeatedly turn away or even give the finger to the guy filming as he walks down the street.
In Thailand do the bars or streets have security or enforcers who could make these dudes lives a problem?
Seems like they are pissing off not just the customers but the girls themselves.
Banana Boi
10-07-23, 18:49
Noticed the girls repeatedly turn away or even give the finger to the guy filming as he walks down the street.
In Thailand do the bars or streets have security or enforcers who could make these dudes lives a problem?There is nothing illegal about walking around with a video camera. What is illegal is if you are following minors or if you are doing things like shooting upskirt or downblouse videos etc. Here in Japan there are signs that say it's a criminal offence to take upskirt photographs / videos on escalators. I see guys / girls who turn away from cameras even in malls let alone in a RLD.
Are there enforcers? In Japan believe me you don't want to face the Yakuza taking videos in one of the Osaka RLD's. Same applies for Amsterdam or inside a FKK.
In a Thailand gogo bar, you will get a warning. If you ignore the warnings you will be dragged outside by security and may get a couple of roundhouse kicks to the head. In Soi 6 and beer bars where most of these videos happens the managers even want to get in the videos with you half the time. You're spending money on LD's and keeping the girls happy. That's all that matters to them. They're not there to protect other customers.
On Walking Street Pattaya there must be nearly 100 people videotaping at aby given time. 99% of these are not for Social Media. If you don't want to be on video don't go there. Having said that be careful who / what you shoot. I remember seeing a video of a Farang vlogger with his head split open after shooting the wrong person / thing on WS.
MongerHunger
10-10-23, 16:34
Interesting Article on a cannabis / marijuana crackdown in Thailand.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/10/10/what-thailands-new-coalition-government-means-for-the-cannabis-market.html
Explorer8939
10-12-23, 18:22
Immigration (inbound) is jammed at BKK at midnight.
High Season is beginning to stir.
Planning a 3 day trip and confused between Bangkok / Pattaya and Singapore. I was thinking of visiting either Bangkok or Pattaya. But when I looked at Singapore and how organised it is, it seems it will be a better trip.
For Bangkok / Pattaya most of the girls are offline, service is not guaranteed and price negotiation is something which puts me off. I live in Australia and I have never done price negotitation though it is too high.
I am in touch with some agencies in Singapore who list their girls on telegram and rates are fixed and affordable. They also post FRs they received on whatsapp, though I don't trust their legitimacy. But girls seems to be more beautiful and sexy than in Bangkok. It feels pretty girls in Thailand commands more price than similar girls in Singapore.
Plus Singapore will have PRC, Thais, Viets, Koreans, Singaporeans and other nationalities too. Seems quite a good selection available there.
Bangkok has some good gentlemen clubs. Even beer bars and agogo bars is a good place to drink and see if something clicks. Environment is a bit relaxed.
Guide me which one you will pick over the other?
Planning a 3 day trip and confused between Bangkok / Pattaya and Singapore. I was thinking of visiting either Bangkok or Pattaya. But when I looked at Singapore and how organised it is, it seems it will be a better trip.
For Bangkok / Pattaya most of the girls are offline, service is not guaranteed and price negotiation is something which puts me off. I live in Australia and I have never done price negotitation though it is too high.
I am in touch with some agencies in Singapore who list their girls on telegram and rates are fixed and affordable. They also post FRs they received on whatsapp, though I don't trust their legitimacy. But girls seems to be more beautiful and sexy than in Bangkok. It feels pretty girls in Thailand commands more price than similar girls in Singapore.
Plus Singapore will have PRC, Thais, Viets, Koreans, Singaporeans and other nationalities too. Seems quite a good selection available there.
Bangkok has some good gentlemen clubs. Even beer bars and agogo bars is a good place to drink and see if something clicks. Environment is a bit relaxed.
Guide me which one you will pick over the other?Go to Singapore and do the escorts. If you are lucky you will find a couple of escorts who will do more than just lay there.
Explorer8939
10-20-23, 19:33
Planning a 3 day trip and confused between Bangkok / Pattaya and Singapore. I was thinking of visiting either Bangkok or Pattaya. But when I looked at Singapore and how organised it is, it seems it will be a better trip.
For Bangkok / Pattaya most of the girls are offline, service is not guaranteed and price negotiation is something which puts me off. I live in Australia and I have never done price negotitation though it is too high.
I am in touch with some agencies in Singapore who list their girls on telegram and rates are fixed and affordable. They also post FRs they received on whatsapp, though I don't trust their legitimacy. But girls seems to be more beautiful and sexy than in Bangkok. It feels pretty girls in Thailand commands more price than similar girls in Singapore.
Plus Singapore will have PRC, Thais, Viets, Koreans, Singaporeans and other nationalities too. Seems quite a good selection available there.
Bangkok has some good gentlemen clubs. Even beer bars and agogo bars is a good place to drink and see if something clicks. Environment is a bit relaxed.
Guide me which one you will pick over the other?For mongering, Singapore is vastly inferior to Pattaya. More expensive, less ladies.
For mongering, Singapore is vastly inferior to Pattaya. More expensive, less ladies.Thanks to you and AggieDad1. Booked tickets to Thailand. Just needed a little push. LOL.
Explorer8939
10-27-23, 03:45
The lady coming to visit me tomorrow night wants to stay with me for a week (7 nights at 10 K baht). This is the same lady who proposed 10 nights at 6 K baht, I counter-proposed at the higher rate because I was suspicious about the cheap offer, as in maybe she would ask for it up front, and then not perform.
So, we will talk tomorrow night about her expectations.
I am a firm believer in the 3 day rule, so I have big concerns about a lady hanging in there for 7 nights.
She just broke up with her sponsor. Probably 90% of the cases where the sponsor leaves is the lady gets tired of fucking them. Same as the 3 day rule. The first night, the lady wants to fuck all night, the third night, she wants to sleep.
If we make a deal, she will start around the 1st, and I will be confined to 1 lady for a week. This will make the other ladies in my rotation very sad, because customers are still scarce. And it will give me a chance to work on my condo every day.
She's not into girl-girl stuff, although she doesn't mind having another lady over to drink (pointless for me).
Raj Patela
10-27-23, 06:00
The lady coming to visit me tomorrow night wants to stay with me for a week (7 nights at 10 K baht). This is the same lady who proposed 10 nights at 6 K baht, I counter-proposed at the higher rate because I was suspicious about the cheap offer, as in maybe she would ask for it up front, and then not perform.
So, we will talk tomorrow night about her expectations.
I am a firm believer in the 3 day rule, so I have big concerns about a lady hanging in there for 7 nights.
She just broke up with her sponsor. Probably 90% of the cases where the sponsor leaves is the lady gets tired of fucking them. Same as the 3 day rule. The first night, the lady wants to fuck all night, the third night, she wants to sleep.
If we make a deal, she will start around the 1st, and I will be confined to 1 lady for a week. This will make the other ladies in my rotation very sad, because customers are still scarce. And it will give me a chance to work on my condo every day.
She's not into girl-girl stuff, although she doesn't mind having another lady over to drink (pointless for me).What does she look like for 1,400 baht a might. Hahaha.
Asking for a Friend.
Explorer8939
10-28-23, 05:02
What does she look like for 1,400 baht a might. Hahaha.
Asking for a Friend.She looks like a Russian lady. Remember, she just had a sponsor for 5 months.
But, I am getting vibes that she wants to be the "girlfriend".
I texted a girl I met in a bar and asked her to come over since she was off work. She said if her boss found out she would get fired. I thought lots of guys got bargirls when they were off work. She showed up wearing a hoodie and would have been hard to recognize. She was worried that one of her co workers would see her and report her. Nakula bars have very few attractive girls, mostly older women or not very pretty faces.
I had a couple of aggravating instances at soi 8. One girl said she was OK with longtime when I first sat down with her but changed to short time only when I wanted to go. I spend way too much on lady drinks only to have my hopes spoiled when asking to barfine. I don't really want short time at all.
Explorer8939
10-30-23, 07:20
I texted a girl I met in a bar and asked her to come over since she was off work. She said if her boss found out she would get fired. I thought lots of guys got bargirls when they were off work. She showed up wearing a hoodie and would have been hard to recognize. She was worried that one of her co workers would see her and report her. Nakula bars have very few attractive girls, mostly older women or not very pretty faces.
I had a couple of aggravating instances at soi 8. One girl said she was OK with longtime when I first sat down with her but changed to short time only when I wanted to go. I spend way too much on lady drinks only to have my hopes spoiled when asking to barfine. I don't really want short time at all.Nope.
What a bargirl does in her off hours is up to her, her bar has zero control.
Rather than tell you she had another customer, she told you a lie. This is Thailand.
Banana Boi
10-30-23, 09:11
I texted a girl I met in a bar and asked her to come over since she was off work. She said if her boss found out she would get fired. I thought lots of guys got bargirls when they were off work. I think there is a HUGE difference from someone living in Pattaya vs a tourist. When I lived in Pattaya most gogo girl knew who I was and knew my reputation (ie I'm not going to her gogo bar the following night and saying to another gogo girl Noi went with me yesterday before work for only 2500 baht).
However, yes there are certain girls who are super paranoid and won't go. It's not a perfect system but one I adhere to. So much so that I never even went with the girl I would have taken over anyone else in any gogo bar. The girl from Baccara and Palace who I call "Cat Ear Girl". I couldn't even get her Line ID because her rule was she won't give her Line ID unless a guy barfines her. It was weird with her cause whenever she saw me in a club she would run up to me. No worries. Just chalk it up to it wasn't meant to be.
I had a couple of aggravating instances at soi 8. One girl said she was OK with longtime when I first sat down with her but changed to short time only when I wanted to go. I spend way too much on lady drinks only to have my hopes spoiled when asking to barfine. I don't really want short time at all.If you've been burnt on the LDs, try to change your tactics. Try to get an answer to all your relevant questions during the first drink.
If you see she drinks too fast, it's a sign she is a *****, just skip her directly after the first drink. If she is not trustworthy (like the girl you described), next times you walk in front of her, completely ignore her to teach her a lesson, and in any case, never ever spend any amount of money on that same girl anymore. Eventually you'll find some good girls who will want to accomodate you.
Not even in Thailand for three months and I'm already a convicted immigration violator. Fined 1600 THB. Ignorance of the law is not a defense. My infraction? Failure to report my location to immigration. I made an overland border run to Cambodia. You can do that two times a year. Returned and went on about my business. But this time was different. I failed to report my location after I entered Thailand within three days. I didn't even know about that requirement. Because my previous visits the hotels that I have been staying at filed the paperwork. I am now in an independently rented condo. So, that responsibility (I have learned) fell upon me. 1600 THB for the lesson.
While I was waiting in the general information line to get into the queue, Royal Thai Police pulled up with a truck full of immigration violators. At least they did not throw me in holding tank with the other immigration violators.
Dey do not play with immigration in the Kingdom.
Tvataham274
11-04-23, 19:50
Got my second trip booked. Air, hotels, all taken care of. Going to send an email to Nam's for my taxi this week. 17 days, was going to be longer, but Finn Air bumped my schedule so I'm leaving a tiny bit sooner than I anticipated, but in hindsight, it might be for the better.
13 days in Pattaya, 2 days in BKK. Decided against staying by LK Metro this time, because I honestly enjoyed myself far more on 6. So this time I'm within stumbling distance.
BKK, staying between soi 18 and 20. I want to be nearby some of the massage places, but am not opposed to taking the bts to Nana and Cowboy, if I even decide to go there.
Have a pretty fair game plan for Pattaya, but I'm going to yolo it in BKK. Aside from the massages.
Cya in February!
Dey do not play with immigration in the Kingdom.And now it looks like Thailand is going to make expats file income taxes each year after Jan 1, 2024? Maybe tax savings that you bring into the country too? Sell my house in the USA and buy a condo in Thailand for a million baht, pay their gov't 300,000 baht for the privilege? Still cheaper than living in un-america, but ack! F to fixing income inequality by redistribution. They like inheritance tax too.
I hope Thailand decides these are some really bad ideas. Only positive for me would probably be radical drops in Thai property prices, kind of reverse of the sleepy joe policies creating radical increase in my USA property price.
Raj Patela
11-05-23, 13:34
I texted a girl I met in a bar and asked her to come over since she was off work. She said if her boss found out she would get fired. I thought lots of guys got bargirls when they were off work. She showed up wearing a hoodie and would have been hard to recognize. She was worried that one of her co workers would see her and report her. Nakula bars have very few attractive girls, mostly older women or not very pretty faces.
I had a couple of aggravating instances at soi 8. One girl said she was OK with longtime when I first sat down with her but changed to short time only when I wanted to go. I spend way too much on lady drinks only to have my hopes spoiled when asking to barfine. I don't really want short time at all.A lot of the Hype you see posted is just Hype. You need to know Hype when you see it.
I try my Best but people like Hype Better. Ex. My Bargirl came 5 times. Hahaha. Only 500 baht, from Palace and she brought her Broom.
Banana Boi
11-05-23, 17:02
I hope Thailand decides these are some really bad ideas. We need to understand Thailand's goals. It always appears that the goal is not to have people stay here long term rather come to Thailand several times per year as a tourist. You never hear Thailand government pumping themselves on how many people come to Thailand long term. You always read about how many tourists they have. Correct or not that's their measuring stick on a successful year.
More proof they no longer want long term tourists is that they just raised the price of a basic 5 year Thailand Elite Visa October 1 from 600,000 to 900,000 baht.
We need to understand Thailand's goals. It always appears that the goal is not to have people stay here long term rather come to Thailand several times per year as a tourist. You never hear Thailand government pumping themselves on how many people come to Thailand long term. You always read about how many tourists they have. Correct or not that's their measuring stick on a successful year.
More proof they no longer want long term tourists is that they just raised the price of a basic 5 year Thailand Elite Visa October 1 from 600,000 to 900,000 baht.Says me that they want individuals of greater financial means living in the Kingdom. Don't get it twisted. Tourists spend more on a two week vacation that most ex-pats do in a month. Thailand knows they have a product that people want. Only makes sense to sell that product to those willing to pay the highest prices. Non-Thai citizens living here have had it good for a long time. Maybe those good times are up. If so, there will always be other places. Go where you are treated best!
There are a lot of condos projects being built in Pattaya. On the street where I checked out an off-plan condo, there were four other projects on the street.
HorseTrader
11-05-23, 17:45
We need to understand Thailand's goals. It always appears that the goal is not to have people stay here long term rather come to Thailand several times per year as a tourist. You never hear Thailand government pumping themselves on how many people come to Thailand long term. You always read about how many tourists they have. Correct or not that's their measuring stick on a successful year.
More proof they no longer want long term tourists is that they just raised the price of a basic 5 year Thailand Elite Visa October 1 from 600,000 to 900,000 baht.There have also been open statements that they want fewer backpackers and more high end tourists. They must love the 2-week millionaires.
There have also been open statements that they want fewer backpackers and more high end tourists. They must love the 2-week millionaires.I have no numbers to prove it, but just from my personal spending habits I spent more in two weeks in holiday mode than I spend now in day to day living mode. Why wouldn't the Kingdom want tourists and long stay visitors with more money.
I am not a mono country person. Countries around the globe see that the western nations are fucking up their program and their populations are getting out of dodge. They want the best of them, not those with short money and alligator arms.
Fiat currency is worthless. Every seen all the gold shops in Thailand? Think they know something you might not.
Spend now and enjoy your life. Die Broke..
And now it looks like Thailand is going to make expats file income taxes each year after Jan 1, 2024? Maybe tax savings that you bring into the country too? Sell my house in the USA and buy a condo in Thailand for a million baht, pay their gov't 300,000 baht for the privilege? Still cheaper than living in un-america, but ack! F to fixing income inequality by redistribution. They like inheritance tax too.
I hope Thailand decides these are some really bad ideas. Only positive for me would probably be radical drops in Thai property prices, kind of reverse of the sleepy joe policies creating radical increase in my USA property price.Do you find it necessary to live in Thailand? Why not just move around SEA but spend the majority of your time in Thailand?
Mr Enternational
11-05-23, 19:42
There have also been open statements that they want fewer backpackers and more high end tourists. They must love the 2-week millionaires.Isn't that everyone's DREAM? The reality is that they better get what they can get from whoever they can get it from before they fuck around and end up with nothing.
Raj Patela
11-06-23, 02:54
Don't Ever Forget. High level Official called us Dirty Foreigner s during COVID.
Anything having to do with changes in immigration is done for the Worse. Live with it.
My plan is just to use my allotment of 180 days down from Usual 330 days. Till further notice.
Can you imagine the Paperwork nightmare even if no Thai taxes are due. I can see immigration putting you in jail just Because.
Don't Ever Forget. High level Official called us Dirty Foreigner s during COVID.
Anything having to do with changes in immigration is done for the Worse. Live with it.
My plan is just to use my allotment of 180 days down from Usual 330 days. Till further notice.
Can you imagine the Paperwork nightmare even if no Thai taxes are due. I can see immigration putting you in jail just Because.
Do you find it necessary to live in Thailand? Why not just move around SEA but spend the majority of your time in Thailand?My easy solution to all of the BS that you get from the Thai government, together with the bad air that interferes with my fun, is to move over to Siem Reap and live like a weed smoking hick, and come to Bangkok whenever I need a good meal and some pooswa if you know what I mean. $100 round trip.
Banana Boi
11-06-23, 03:47
My plan is just to use my allotment of 180 days down from Usual 330 days. Till further notice.Under which Visa were you allowed to stay 330 days per year in Thailand without any issues from Immigration? To my knowledge it's always been 180 days on a regular tourist visa (exception was during COVID). I'm assuming you're not in Thailand under an OA, work, or marriage Visa.
Do you find it necessary to live in Thailand? Why not just move around SEA but spend the majority of your time in Thailand?
Exactly. This is what I did. Others are not keen on the idea though since they don't like the idea of paying rent in Thailand then paying for a hotel elsewhere the other 180 days per year. It's always nice to have a home base. Living out of a suitcase your entire life kind of sucks.
Do you find it necessary to live in Thailand? Why not just move around SEA but spend the majority of your time in Thailand?Excellent point! No one has to live in Thailand. It is a personal choice. In my country of origin I chose a tax favorable state in which to declare my tax residence. I do my best to never step foot in my country of origin if possible. But I am one of the few countries that taxes their citizens on their income worldwide no matter where they happen to be in the world at the time.
This tax policy is going to affect everyone differently and it is still being formulated. Everyone must take a look at their own personal situations before making a decision. These grandiose predictions are just WAGS (Wild ass guesses). The policy has not even been codified yet.
Everyone calm down. Take a step back from the computer screen. Get off you keyboard and go get a massage and your dick sucked to relax.
Basic principle of Andrew Henderson who wrote the Nomadic Capitalist is:
Go where you are treated best.
The core of the concept is that: the best place to work / do business may not be the best places to live, bank, vacation or invest.
Exactly. This is what I did. Others are not keen on the idea though since they don't like the idea of paying rent in Thailand then paying for a hotel elsewhere the other 180 days per year. It's always nice to have a home base. Living out of a suitcase your entire life kind of sucks.Or you can do it like I do and maintain multiple residences around the globe. But that does tend to add up. Six in one hand, half dozen in the other.
If someone wants to stay in the country long enough to subject them to taxation a cost benefit analysis needs to be performed for their personal situation. I do not do everything in the world in order to minimize my tax liabilities. I do the best I can within the law to arrange my affairs and then give the worthless paper currency to the government in question as they demand.
Taxes are a part of life, minimize them. But don't let them rule your life or prevent you from living how you choose to live. Where you live after all is one of the most important lifestyle decisions you can make.
Raj Patela
11-06-23, 04:47
Under which Visa were you allowed to stay 330 days per year in Thailand without any issues from Immigration? To my knowledge it's always been 180 days on a regular tourist visa (exception was during COVID). I'm assuming you're not in Thailand under an OA, work, or marriage Visa.
Exactly. This is what I did. Others are not keen on the idea though since they don't like the idea of paying rent in Thailand then paying for a hotel elsewhere the other 180 days per year. It's always nice to have a home base. Living out of a suitcase your entire life kind of sucks.Usually 2 tourists visas and a cacophony of 30 day visa on arrival s. Add the extensions not hard.
Always enter by AIR.
Do you find it necessary to live in Thailand? Why not just move around SEA but spend the majority of your time in Thailand?Moving around SEA might be an option for some who just come here a few times a year, but some of us have lived here for a long time, have set up our home here, have property, have a family, so moving away is not an option. So we have no choice other than to negotiate the regulations imposed on us (by Immigration, etc.) as best we can.
Moving around SEA might be an option for some who just come here a few times a year, but some of us have lived here for a long time, have set up our home here, have property, have a family, so moving away is not an option. So we have no choice other than to negotiate the regulations imposed on us (by Immigration, etc.) as best we can.When I first started working in China in 2007 there were a lot of expats working and living there. Some had families and properties and owned businesses there. Then in 2012 things started changing. They are almost all gone now. Things change and governments can do stupid and unwise things because they are under the mistaken belief that they can get rid of the expats and all of the money will stay behind. Thailand is not China, so I do not expect Thailand to get as bad as fast as China did. Still it would be wise to have a backup plan. I only stayed in China one time for more than 183 days in a calendar year. Never did that again.
When I first started working in China in 2007 there were a lot of expats working and living there. Some had families and properties and owned businesses there. Then in 2012 things started changing. They are almost all gone now. Things change and governments can do stupid and unwise things because they are under the mistaken belief that they can get rid of the expats and all of the money will stay behind. Thailand is not China, so I do not expect Thailand to get as bad as fast as China did. Still it would be wise to have a backup plan. I only stayed in China one time for more than 183 days in a calendar year. Never did that again.That is good advice, I know. Thank you. But things would have to get a lot worse before I had to activate Plan be.
And now it looks like Thailand is going to make expats file income taxes each year after Jan 1, 2024? Maybe tax savings that you bring into the country too? Sell my house in the USA and buy a condo in Thailand for a million baht, pay their gov't 300,000 baht for the privilege? Still cheaper than living in un-america, but ack! F to fixing income inequality by redistribution. They like inheritance tax too.
I hope Thailand decides these are some really bad ideas. Only positive for me would probably be radical drops in Thai property prices, kind of reverse of the sleepy joe policies creating radical increase in my USA property price.I really doubt they can figure out if they do require a filing if what you say is accurate. At least what your real income is. They maybe can figure out what you bring over to Thailand minus CC charges but they have no access to your income records outside of Thailand. I don't have a clue about other countries but in the USA the IRS isn't going to send information to the Thai gov't. And they'd have to do on an individual basis. Meaning to track a US citizen's information they'd need a social security number. If the IRS gives out SS#'s then identity theft would be running rampant with all the holes in the Thai gov't. And US citizens wouldn't put up with it. They would all be running for the exits. Does anyone even know if they have joint returns or everyone files an individual return?
Raj Patela
11-07-23, 01:34
I really doubt they can figure out if they do require a filing if what you say is accurate. At least what your real income is. They maybe can figure out what you bring over to Thailand minus CC charges but they have no access to your income records outside of Thailand. I don't have a clue about other countries but in the USA the IRS isn't going to send information to the Thai gov't. And they'd have to do on an individual basis. Meaning to track a US citizen's information they'd need a social security number. If the IRS gives out SS#'s then identity theft would be running rampant with all the holes in the Thai gov't. And US citizens wouldn't put up with it. They would all be running for the exits. Does anyone even know if they have joint returns or everyone files an individual return?Imagine having to give Somchai my TURBOTAX ID and corresponding password to authenticate my Attestations of USA taxable income. LOL.
Actually this would be EZ. Only need 1st 2 pages. But is Somchai qualified to know this.
The other 258 pages are just documentations.
Moving around SEA might be an option for some who just come here a few times a year, but some of us have lived here for a long time, have set up our home here, have property, have a family, so moving away is not an option. So we have no choice other than to negotiate the regulations imposed on us (by Immigration, etc.) as best we can.One would think their would be an exemption regarding this for expats that are married to a Thai woman. I kind of get thr government's thinking regarding the average, single expat but I don't think that should be applied to an expat married to a Thai.
I really doubt they can figure out if they do require a filing if what you say is accurate. At least what your real income is. They maybe can figure out what you bring over to Thailand minus CC charges but they have no access to your income records outside of Thailand. I don't have a clue about other countries but in the USA the IRS isn't going to send information to the Thai gov't. And they'd have to do on an individual basis. Meaning to track a US citizen's information they'd need a social security number. If the IRS gives out SS#'s then identity theft would be running rampant with all the holes in the Thai gov't. And US citizens wouldn't put up with it. They would all be running for the exits. Does anyone even know if they have joint returns or everyone files an individual return?If you are a US citizen you will still be required to file an income tax return in the US. You get to deduct any taxes you pay in Thailand so you are not double taxed. But remember all those new auditors the IRS wanted to hire last year. I would be more worried about the IRS reaching out to Thai tax authorities and wanting to "compare notes".
One would think there would be an exemption regarding this for expats that are married to a Thai woman. I kind of get the government's thinking regarding the average, single expat but I don't think that should be applied to an expat married to a Thai.Hate to cloud all this speculation with some hard cold facts. Every check out property ownership laws in the Kingdom. I have read translated versions of them from law firms based here in Thailand. If you are married to a Thai national you can jointly own land with your spouse. But let's say your spouse passes away and you inherit the land. Do you know what you position is then? You can apply for an exemption to the rule that not Thai nationals cannot own land. The provision exists in the law. But has never been granted in the history of the Kingdom. So, reality is, you have one year to dispose of that land. If you don't the Kingdom will take of it and sell it for you and charge you 5% for their services.
Tell me more about the type of exemptions that might be provided to someone married to a Thai national.
Mr Enternational
11-07-23, 03:13
One would think their would be an exemption regarding this for expats that are married to a Thai woman.This is Thailand. They will probably have to pay more.
Raj Patela
11-07-23, 05:08
Hate to cloud all this speculation with some hard cold facts. Every check out property ownership laws in the Kingdom. I have read translated versions of them from law firms based here in Thailand. If you are married to a Thai national you can jointly own land with your spouse. But let's say your spouse passes away and you inherit the land. Do you know what you position is then? You can apply for an exemption to the rule that not Thai nationals cannot own land. The provision exists in the law. But has never been granted in the history of the Kingdom. So, reality is, you have one year to dispose of that land. If you don't the Kingdom will take of it and sell it for you and charge you 5% for their services.
Tell me more about the type of exemptions that might be provided to someone married to a Thai national.Your Hard Cold Facts are Wrong. Hahaha.
I'm not sure why I always forget that the one constant in life is "change", otherwise I'd still be fat and happy living off those 18% interest earnings on money market from back in Jimmy Carter days. LOL.
I wonder if Thailand will tax you on what's in your pocket when you walk off the airplane? I brought $6000 to Thailand once, but made the mistake of folding it down the middle like a stripper dollar to fit in my money belt. Thai banks really like their bills crisp and in like new condition.
Explorer8939
11-07-23, 11:59
If you are a US citizen you will still be required to file an income tax return in the US. You get to deduct any taxes you pay in Thailand so you are not double taxed. But remember all those new auditors the IRS wanted to hire last year. I would be more worried about the IRS reaching out to Thai tax authorities and wanting to "compare notes".There is a tax treaty between Thailand and the US, so its not really worth it for IRS auditors to worry about Thai tax issues.
The low hanging fruit are the US billionaires who don't pay taxes. I don't think that applies to anyone here.
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