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Jackie888
12-07-14, 18:01
I have been there on Tuesday a couple of times at the five in the afternoon mark. It's not terrible but not good either. You will have lots of waiters near the entrance bothering you the second you walk through the door. I would wait just a bit until about six thirty to go there. You will start seeing two shifts of girls about that time and can increase your odds of being a first customer. As far as waiters go, if you see a young taller one #99, Miguel, he won't rip you off and acts very polite. As far as the girls go, it's more or less a buyers market. I avoid the ones working as duos and the others who simply want you to give them money for walking around in skimpy outfits. If you sit at the dancer's stage in the front area along the back side you can get a good view of many girls to get an idea of whom you find attractive.

The upstairs will be closed during the week but open on weekends. Friday nights gets very crowded.IMHO, being the first customer of the day is probably by far the most important factor in determining the quality of the sex.

By far.

BTW, if a girl quotes an unreasonably high price, it is likely that you're not the first of the day.

Party God
12-07-14, 23:33
IMHO, being the first customer of the day is probably by far the most important factor in determining the quality of the sex.

By far.

BTW, if a girl quotes an unreasonably high price, it is likely that you're not the first of the day.Very good points. I agree. The unreasonably high price can also come from how well she has done previously even if she just got on shift.

ScatManDoo
12-08-14, 07:54
I have a HK VIP card.

Among the different services and offers given to HK VIP cardholders is "free" parking.

Sometimes I'm given a free parking voucher, but usually I'm only given a $5 reimbursement.

I stayed at the Hacienda de Santiago (HDS) during this trip, which offers free parking for their hotel guests.

But at the beginning of the trip I parked in Pepe's for one hour before going to HDS. I also parked in Pepe's this afternoon for three hours after checking out of HDS.

Both times when I parked my car in Pepe's I was offered a free lift to HK from the parking lot.

Apparently the owners of HK have bought an electric vehicle (a *****d-up golf cart manufactured & originally sold under a Ford nameplate).

I took a pass on the driver's offer, but I think it was free to ride. I decided to walk to HK, as I always have in the past, and saved myself a 10 pesos tip.

ScatManDoo
12-23-14, 22:24
It is an old electric NEV (Neighborhood Electrical Vehicle).

Right now it is decorated for Christmas.

The NEV was parked in Pepe's lot when these pictures were taken from the bottom floor of the Rizo de Oro's north annex (RdeO's rooms numbered 59 to 88).

The Tall Man
01-03-15, 02:39
Just curious to any of you that made the trip down on Thursday for New Years, how was selection, quality, crowds and quantity of girls?

The Tall Man.

Husker Dude
01-03-15, 06:10
I was in San Diego for the Holiday bowl and visited Hong Kong Club 3 nights in a row right after Christmas. The selection was pretty good in my opinion and it was fairly crowded, but not bad, easy to find a seat anywhere. I mostly hung out at the back stage where the shaving cream shows are. It gets wilder all the time. Several guys each show ate pussy and were covered with shaving cream. Several guys also dragged up on stage to play with the girls. Only one guy was able to get it up and the girl was riding him pretty good til they poured ice water on him. LOL Took a girl up each night. All asked for $70, then 17 for the room. Best girl was one named Rosalee, about 5-2, blondish hair, big natural tits and ass, not that great a face, but decent. Took her time in the room, rubbing on each other, DFK, CBJ, then CG til finish. Excellent skills. Good trip, coming back to the border around 2-3 AM, no lines. Parked behind the JackIn Box for $7, easy in and out to the interstate.

ScatManDoo
01-03-15, 17:13
The second floor on the north-side has removed the privado booths and doubled the booth seating.

They have added a new you-shaped stairway from the first to second floors leading up directly to the DJ booth.

And a new stage is being built on the second floor's south side with privados up on the third level.

Jackie888
01-03-15, 23:44
Just curious to any of you that made the trip down on Thursday for New Years, how was selection, quality, crowds and quantity of girls?

The Tall Man.Despite all the warnings from the Vets on this board, I packed my stuff and made the trip down Thursday for New Years. Hey, my boss at work was driving me nuts, and I needed to get away from the ******* as far I can, physically and mentally.

DRIVE and ENTRY. Surprisingly the drive was brisk. Other than an accident at San Clemente, it was a clean drive as I got to the border by 8 pm. I got really excited as I walked over the overpass looking down at tons of Mexicans returning to Mexico to party. This was going to be one heck of a party. Got across the street to what used to be McDonald's, it was kind of eerie how empty the streets were. I hope that they re-open the entry point on this side of the freeway because the economy on the Mexican side in this area is completely devastated. The first cabbie was too good to take 50 pesos to get to to Hong Kong. While he pondered, I gave it to his buddy and off we went. You snooze, you lose.

Hong Kong, etc. -. Oh Fuck. It was a Saturday crowd of guys. Supplied by a Typical FUCKING Wednesday NIGHT supply of chicas! After a couple of conversations, it appears that all the Chicas are home with their family. Even the ones living in Tijuana! I cannot even get my 3 favorites on the Phone. Their phones are OFF. By 11 pm, much of us guys were starting to panic as we realize that there was going to be a shortage of chicas regardless of how much dineros we carried. By midnight, I was with a chica that I generally thumped by nose at. I didn't even bother to take her upstairs. TROPICAL sucked even worst. ADELITAS was probably the best populated. But as I said, it was a Wed night chicas supply in the entire zona.

HOTEL. Rather than try to drive back, I took a room at the end of the Hotel on top of Tropicals. It was like a Ghost Town. However, with the VIP card, it was $40. Considering that I was able to get a decent night's sleep, shit, shave, and take a shot shower in the morning just before breakfast, it was worth it. The TV sucked. But the room was considerably clean, neat and secure. As a guy, that's all I'm asking for.

JAN 1 DAY. I was just about to check out early. But I had to just take one last look at HK before I decide to brave that 3 hour line back to the USA. And thank goodness I did, because I met a tall chica that I had great chemistry with. After 2 drinks, I took her back to my hotel room over Tropicals, and we went at it GFE. It was a fanstastic GFE affair and made up for the shitty New Years Eve. Funny but while we were showering thereafter, the place was lacking bell boys, so they had to call in to remind her that time was up. Note to myself. Disconnect the telephone next time.

LESSON. Despite what was probably the worst supply of Chicas in the history of the Zona, I was able to get laid with a gorgeous Vixen with the level of passion that I have never experienced in the good old USA in the last 40 years. It brings me to a conversation that I had with a Chica I had weeks ago. When I was unable to identify why I like Latinas, she told me bluntly that Mexican women were caliente, they like sex. Yeah she was right. So despite all of my initial disappointments, I'm going back next year.

LINE BACK. Oh wow. 30 minutes to get back at 1 pm. What the heck? A nice climatic ending to a shitty beginning 12 hours ago.

BTW. Gals in the alley were asking $48 for everything for 20 minutes. Did prices go up? Waiters at HK were fucking around quoting me $10 for beers. So I didn't tip them, which warranted nasty comments. Fuck them for trying to pull a scam on the first of the year. Rates went from 12.5 to $1 to 13 to $1.

Naked Gunz
01-04-15, 02:05
The second floor on the north-side has removed the privado booths and doubled the booth seating.They have added a new you-shaped stairway from the first to second floors leading up directly to the DJ booth. And a new stage is being built on the second floor's south side with privados up on the third level.Holy shit, HK has really blown up since being a shit hole in the 90's! Has put Andelitas to shame, and Chicago. I have not been to Tijuana for at least 3 yrs. I remember when they knocked down that first wall.

MaskedTurbator
01-07-15, 02:56
By midnight, I was with a chica that I generally thumped by nose at. I didn't even bother to take her upstairs.Consider yourself lucky. When I went last year, there were so few girls I ended up taking my wingman upstairs.

We don't talk about it. Ever.

Just teasing. Glad you had a chance to make it up the next day, though.

MT

Guitarrefreak
01-12-15, 02:56
Has anyone tried clara / klara / cara / kara from sonora?

She claims she is new to Tijuana from hermosillo.

Spinner, probably a little bit on the skinnier side but no evidence (at least no obvious ones) of kid.

Seems really friendly, took her ficha really slow. I had to bail so didn't stay longer to sample.

TomJackin
01-12-15, 04:11
Consider yourself lucky. When I went last year, there were so few girls I ended up taking my wingman upstairs.How was he? Worth a repeat? What's his number? What hours does he work? BB or covered?:D

SBeach25
01-12-15, 05:22
This Friday Jan 16th, HK will finally be done with all the construction. I spoke with the guy who is supervising the changes and he pointed out that he will be happy when Friday comes. Took a walk through and I have to say I'm impressed.

TomJackin
01-12-15, 06:55
This Friday Jan 16th, HK will finally be done with all the construction. I spoke with the guy who is supervising the changes and he pointed out that he will be happy when Friday comes. Took a walk through and I have to say I'm impressed.I was there Friday and took a walk about. It appears there is a third floor general seating area right near the VIP booths. Where the lap dance booths, there is extra seating, but it looks awkward as hell because it is just one booth facing outwards and the tables are on each side of the booths.

Leave it to HK to provide more seating, more women, and trying to seal the market of customers.

On the other hand, the LC rearrange is just plane silly.

Quick Love
01-20-15, 06:14
Heading to Tijuana this weekend for my monthly get-a-way, whose coming with me, whose coming with me?Message me if your heading down there, I'll buy you a dance and a beer. Haha good times are here again.

FlapJacK
01-24-15, 00:54
I was there Friday and took a walk about. It appears there is a third floor general seating area right near the VIP booths. Where the lap dance booths, there is extra seating, but it looks awkward as hell because it is just one booth facing outwards and the tables are on each side of the booths.

Leave it to HK to provide more seating, more women, and trying to seal the market of customers.

On the other hand, the LC rearrange is just plane silly.Better hope a fire never breaks out in that place LOL. Good luck getting out alive.

Ninguno Especial
01-24-15, 04:43
Better hope a fire never breaks out in that place LOL. Good luck getting out alive.You said it or an earthquake for that matter.

Lakers02
01-27-15, 21:29
Hi guys,

I was wondering if any of you blokes could name, off of the top of your head, any Greek providers at HK who are available in the evening-late night hours.

Thanks in advance!

Utenick
01-29-15, 16:10
I have a chance to start a business trip to the area early and was wondering if anyone here has been to HK on Super Bowl Sunday? Is it too crowded to make it worth it? Sunday is the only day I could make it south of the border.

Thanks in advance.

ScatManDoo
01-29-15, 17:34
I have a chance to start a business trip to the area early and was wondering if anyone here has been to HK on Super Bowl Sunday? Is it too crowded to make it worth it? Sunday is the only day I could make it south of the border.

Thanks in advance.HK will be likely be less crowed on Superbowl Sunday than it would be for a normal January / February Sunday afternoon (which is already the slow season).

Many weekend warriors get locked into SB parties that keep them tied down in the US.

And only a few mongers get to use the SB as a ruse to get away from the ball & chain in order to sneak into Tijuana for the afternoon.

Baxter Slade
01-29-15, 22:59
I have a chance to start a business trip to the area early and was wondering if anyone here has been to HK on Super Bowl Sunday? Is it too crowded to make it worth it? Sunday is the only day I could make it south of the border.

Thanks in advance.I have been down for the last 3 Super Bowls. It will be more crowded than a normal Sunday afternoon. The Super Bowl seems to pick up a little more popularity down there every year. You won't have to worry about not finding the game on anywhere or worry about being outnumbered by people wanting to watch soccer. It is a little harder to take in the game and you won't hear the announcers but I'm sure you will have fun.

Also with the Caliente right there you can bet on the game and make it more exciting. If you should find a chica to hang with and watch the game with place a bet on the game tell her who to root for and tell her if that team wins half the winnings are hers. And just like that there is a good chance you have created an instant football fan, and it will be a fun afternoon.

The Cane
01-30-15, 00:52
Hi guys,

I was wondering if any of you blokes could name, off of the top of your head, any Greek providers at HK who are available in the evening-late night hours.

Thanks in advance!Last summer I butt fucked a HK Club provider going by "Lailo" on my very first day in Tijuana (pictured). She was good too, but after her when it came to anal in Tijuana, I didn't have a lot of luck. Got my "deek" up into the culito of a girl going by "Mia" over at Adelita's too (second pictured), but she does not come with my recommendation. For the reasons why, see my reports in the Reports of Distinction section for Tijuana.

Good luck!

Guitarrefreak
02-06-15, 05:29
Anyone has useful intel on barbie?

Used to be blonde, had braces, was gone for a while, now back.

Was super friendly, I guess ficha consumption rate was acceptable, not stellar, but at least not a goldfish.

Lots of grinding and some kissing, was taking care of people so couldn't take care of myself, but interested to hear what others think.

TheMayor
02-09-15, 18:52
How easy is it to get full bareback and CIP with a girl in HK or Adelitas? Any better way to approach the subject than just ask when negotiating price before heading upstairs? Or any other / better avenues such as escort to get BBFSCIP in Tijuana?

Not looking for preaching, we all know the risks!! Not looking for street working girls or girls with needle marks, or ask Jose who is peddling introductions on the street corner.

And, most of all not looking for someones best guess or how they might go about it. Specifically looking for feedback from those who have actually done it or have been offered it in Tijuana.

Thanks! After feedback, I will report back.

Always remember to vote in Nov. elections!

Phordphan
02-10-15, 00:06
How easy is it to get full bareback and CIP with a girl in HK or Adelitas? Any better way to approach the subject than just ask when negotiating price before heading upstairs? Or any other / better avenues such as escort to get BBFSCIP in Tijuana?

Not looking for preaching, we all know the risks!! Not looking for street working girls or girls with needle marks, or ask Jose who is peddling introductions on the street corner.

And, most of all not looking for someones best guess or how they might go about it. Specifically looking for feedback from those who have actually done it or have been offered it in Tijuana.

Thanks! After feedback, I will report back.

Always remember to vote in Nov. elections!Interesting. We have an information request from a member with a sum total of 2 posts. No bona fides, no Trip Reports, no other contributions to this august board. And it's not normal "newbie" questions, but, rather, a request for, shall we say, "controversial" information.

Mr. Mayor, whenever that subject is broached all sorts of opinions fly. If it were easy, or the norm, it wouldn't be controversial. I could be wrong, but those who do this routinely are probably reluctant to simply share their information to the first guy who wanders by and asks.

I think you'll be better off by doing a LOT of RTFF. The information you seek is available but you'll have to dig. Then develop your own hypothesis. Then visit Tijuana and test said theory in the clubs. Make notes. Report your results here. At that point you may receive some critiques and advice. You'll also be better served by purchasing a Senior Membership so you can receive PMs. Some are willing to share their experiences via PM, rather than public posts.

Rjsss212
02-10-15, 00:44
Interesting. We have an information request from a member with a sum total of 2 posts. No bona fides, no Trip Reports, no other contributions to this august board. And it's not normal "newbie" questions, but, rather, a request for, shall we say, "controversial" information.So, short answer is no.

Sounds like you're running for mayor.

ItsMeBeyatch
02-10-15, 02:09
You will not get it. It took a while for me To get BBBJ let alone any BBFS. I only look for BBBJ and never BBFS. I do have a friend or one my favorites that if I wanted can go BBFS just because there is some sort of relationship between us. She never brings condoms and it's always forgotten till we are ready for penetration and by that point I am all worked up. I said fuck it one time and didn't use a condom but that was the only time and after that time I always carried condoms with me. , Just in case


How easy is it to get full bareback and CIP with a girl in HK or Adelitas? Any better way to approach the subject than just ask when negotiating price before heading upstairs? Or any other / better avenues such as escort to get BBFSCIP in Tijuana?

Not looking for preaching, we all know the risks!! Not looking for street working girls or girls with needle marks, or ask Jose who is peddling introductions on the street corner.

And, most of all not looking for someones best guess or how they might go about it. Specifically looking for feedback from those who have actually done it or have been offered it in Tijuana.

Thanks! After feedback, I will report back.

Always remember to vote in Nov. elections!.

Jackie888
02-10-15, 03:34
How easy is it to get full bareback and CIP with a girl in HK or Adelitas? Any better way to approach the subject than just ask when negotiating price before heading upstairs? Or any other / better avenues such as escort to get BBFSCIP in Tijuana?

Not looking for preaching, we all know the risks!! Not looking for street working girls or girls with needle marks, or ask Jose who is peddling introductions on the street corner.

And, most of all not looking for someones best guess or how they might go about it. Specifically looking for feedback from those who have actually done it or have been offered it in Tijuana.

Thanks! After feedback, I will report back.

Always remember to vote in Nov. elections!You have 2 posts. And you don't want to be preached upon nor a best guest opinion when you are putting the rest of us Mongers (and girls) at risk with unprotected sex? Pardon my French and lack of diplomacy, but you sound like a fucking asshole.

Why don't you drive your fucking ass down there and report back like the rest of us?

KC Questor
02-10-15, 05:51
How easy is it to get full bareback and CIP with a girl in HK or Adelitas?Not going to happen unless you get SUPER lucky. Better bet is to go with Craigslist or RomanceLatina and find a girl who thinks of herself as a "civilian" who just does this for some spending money. Lots of them think condoms are for putas.

DaBulls
02-10-15, 07:20
I am going to Tijuana this weekend.

I have been there few times last year.

The girls at Hong Kong charge me $80 for 30 minutes.

With USD up against Pesos is it OK to change USD to Pesos before crossing the border?

How will an average girl at Hong Kong ask in Pesos for 30 minutes.

TheMayor
02-10-15, 16:31
Jackie888,

It's always funniest when a guy with a girl's name open his mouth for all others to see how ignorant he is! I am still laughing at how a little brain makes conclusions on such little info and flames another. Not even going to give you the satisfaction of knowing the full scoop. LOL your a newbie compared to me! Those that matter can see who the ignorant a-hole is. Also try proof reading, it might make you sound more intelligent if that's possible.


You have 2 posts. And you don't want to be preached upon nor a best guest opinion when you are putting the rest of us Mongers (and girls) at risk with unprotected sex? Pardon my French and lack of diplomacy, but you sound like a fucking asshole.

Why don't you drive your fucking ass down there and report back like the rest of us?

TheMayor
02-10-15, 16:40
Thanks to all who provided constructive replies. I tip my hat to the 3 of you who were "serious and genuine". Other readers of this board have a better idea now of who is here to pump their ego and just make posts for the sake of increasing their count and those who have positive intentions.

ScatManDoo
02-10-15, 16:59
I am going to Tijuana this weekend.

I have been there few times last year.

The girls at Hong Kong charge me $80 for 30 minutes.

With USD up against Pesos is it OK to change USD to Pesos before crossing the border?

How will an average girl at Hong Kong ask in Pesos for 30 minutes.You can buy pesos at numerous cambios (exchange houses) on either side of the border.

It has been my observation that cambios on the US side of the border tend to give slightly better rates (I. E. You typically get about 1% more pesos from US cambios for your dollars).

So I recommend getting your pesos before crossing the border.

In regards to paying / offering the chicas pesos instead of dollars, let me give you two tips:

If a chica quotes you $80 to go arriba (upstairs).

My recommendation is that you simply ask her "Es Ocho Cientos pesos OK?" (I. E. Is 800 pesos OK).

She's very likely to say yes. In which case you just turned a $80 cita into a $55 cita without any hard negotiation.

If instead she quotes you 1,000 pesos or 1,200 pesos, your best move IMHO is to request a full hour session for that lofty an amount of money going to her.

Now here is my advanced tip for negotiation:

I believe it is a basic negotiation mistake in this type arrangement to ask a chica "How much?" You're practically inviting her make an unreasonable compensation request to an obvious newbie.

Instead you should make her an offer, and IMHO is would best be a low ball offer to help demonstrate to her that you know the going rates and that you are not a sucker newbie, but instead a knowledgeable experienced veteran.

These days I go up typically with street girls and walkers, but in a Tijuana bar setting I ask for the chica's name and then pay her a compliment "Tu eres muy bonita".

And then I ask her if she goes arriba (to be polite). When she confirms that she indeed goes upstairs, I make my lowball offer:

"Es quinientos pesos OK?

In a smaller bar, she might say yes to 500 pesos, but probably not in Hong Kong Bar.

However that low offer sets up most chica to be reasonably low in her counter offer (s).

It also sets a better mood for the cita as you move your price up (at your discretion) rather than grinding down her initial request.

Jackie888
02-10-15, 22:53
I am going to Tijuana this weekend.

I have been there few times last year.

The girls at Hong Kong charge me $80 for 30 minutes.

With USD up against Pesos is it OK to change USD to Pesos before crossing the border?

How will an average girl at Hong Kong ask in Pesos for 30 minutes.Because most of them are so used to dealing in dollars, they're as lost. I ve had a kock out 10 quoted $70 as her minimum, but enthuistically went up for 700 pesos. But a few of the smarter ones pulled out their cell and did the conversion math right in front of me.

IMO, 99 percent will agree to 800 pesos.

FlapJacK
02-11-15, 01:47
I am going to Tijuana this weekend.

I have been there few times last year.

The girls at Hong Kong charge me $80 for 30 minutes.

With USD up against Pesos is it OK to change USD to Pesos before crossing the border?

How will an average girl at Hong Kong ask in Pesos for 30 minutes.Never mind what they ask. , I never pay more than $60. Why are you paying them more?

Belldude2
02-11-15, 03:13
Because most of them are so used to dealing in dollars, they're as lost. I ve had a kock out 10 quoted $70 as her minimum, but enthuistically went up for 700 pesos. But a few of the smarter ones pulled out their cell and did the conversion math right in front of me.

IMO, 99 percent will agree to 800 pesos.True story, 70% are not that smart. I have converted straight 10 to 1 many times with no problem. Give it a try!

Belldude2
02-11-15, 03:23
You can buy pesos at numerous cambios (exchange houses) on either side of the border.

It has been my observation that cambios on the US side of the border tend to give slightly better rates (I. E. You typically get about 1% more pesos from US cambios for your dollars).

So I recommend getting your pesos before crossing the border.

In regards to paying / offering the chicas pesos instead of dollars, let me give you two tips:

If a chica quotes you $80 to go arriba (upstairs).

My recommendation is that you simply ask her "Es Ocho Cientos pesos OK?" (I. E. Is 800 pesos OK).

She's very likely to say yes. In which case you just turned a $80 cita into a $55 cita without any hard negotiation.

If instead she quotes you 1,000 pesos or 1,200 pesos, your best move IMHO is to request a full hour session for that lofty an amount of money going to her.

Now here is my advanced tip for negotiation:

I believe it is a basic negotiation mistake in this type arrangement to ask a chica "How much?" You're practically inviting her make an unreasonable compensation request to an obvious newbie.

Instead you should make her an offer, and IMHO is would best be a low ball offer to help demonstrate to her that you know the going rates and that you are not a sucker newbie, but instead a knowledgeable experienced veteran.

These days I go up typically with street girls and walkers, but in a Tijuana bar setting I ask for the chica's name and then pay her a compliment "Tu eres muy bonita".

And then I ask her if she goes arriba (to be polite). When she confirms that she indeed goes upstairs, I make my lowball offer:

"Es quinientos pesos OK?

In a smaller bar, she might say yes to 500 pesos, but probably not in Hong Kong Bar.

However that low offer sets up most chica to be reasonably low in her counter offer (s).

It also sets a better mood for the cita as you move your price up (at your discretion) rather than grinding down her initial request.[CodeWord100] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord100) man. Everything you said is on point!. I, However, recommend getting pesos from the local bank ATM machines instead. You get an even better exchange rate than any casa de cambio in the states or in mexico, or any other country for that matter. Just make sure of two things. Try to go where the door can be locked behind you, or just be very aware of your surroundings. Try to go in daylight when there are lots of people around. And most importantly, contact your bank before going to let them know you will be using your card in Mexico.

Belldude2
02-11-15, 03:30
How easy is it to get full bareback and CIP with a girl in HK or Adelitas? Any better way to approach the subject than just ask when negotiating price before heading upstairs? Or any other / better avenues such as escort to get BBFSCIP in Tijuana?

Not looking for preaching, we all know the risks!! Not looking for street working girls or girls with needle marks, or ask Jose who is peddling introductions on the street corner.

And, most of all not looking for someones best guess or how they might go about it. Specifically looking for feedback from those who have actually done it or have been offered it in Tijuana.
Thanks! After feedback, I will report back.

Always remember to vote in Nov. elections!It is extremely difficult to get BBFS and cip anywhere in Tijuana unless you get to know the girl real well and trusts you. The girls are extremely well educated in the risks. I have been able to on a few occasions, but not till the girl knew me well and we had some kind of relationship going. Just sayin.

Belldude2
02-11-15, 03:38
Hi guys,

I was wondering if any of you blokes could name, off of the top of your head, any Greek providers at HK who are available in the evening-late night hours.

Thanks in advance!Not available at HK, but Luz at Mexicolindobar.com is a great greek provider. She truly loves it. I give her 2 thumbs way up. And she is highly rated on ***.

Phordphan
02-11-15, 06:35
How will an average girl at Hong Kong ask in Pesos for 30 minutes.The average girl in HK will NOT ask for pesos. They prefer dollars. However, as one of my faves likes to tell me, "Joo hab dat deek between joor legs. Dat makes joo de boss. " :D So, when the subject of money comes up you simply tell her that you have pesos. Not dollars. Period. Then you'll do as SMD suggested and actually negotiate a bit. Let's all remember that we are in Mexico. Negotiation is practically the national sport. If more guys tried it, we'd read about far fewer $100 arribas.

HorseTrader
02-12-15, 04:16
It is extremely difficult to get BBFS and cip anywhere in Tijuana unless you get to know the girl real well and trusts you....BBFS certainly isn't the standard service, but I've had it offered to me a few times on a first encounter. Once an HK girl promised "everything for you", when we checked into Cascadas she refused the condom and when we got in the room she told me we didn't need to use the condom that I provided. Another time I negotiated $60 in Hong Kong but in the room she offered BBFS for $100. I've had one or two street girls on Constitution (near the top) quote separate prices for covered and uncovered services. I've twice been in Cascadas with HK girls and had the condom fail (once it fell off when I temporarily lost wood and another time it burst like a balloon); neither time did the girl seem at all concerned.

I don't want BB with professionals and I would never ask for it, but it has been presented to me enough times that I'm sure it happens.

SBeach25
02-18-15, 07:20
The average girl in HK will NOT ask for pesos. They prefer dollars. A well stated point. Only the girls that have now become regular working girls all adopt the all mighty dollar. Yet, new girls who have just arrived and less than a month will still accept pesos. I approached a girl in the afternoon and tried to negotiate a good price. She said Dollars and I said pesos was all I had. So before we got to the numbers, she stopped me and told me the dollar is strong right now and she does not want pesos. WTF? It caught me off guard. It was the first time a girl actually pays attention to the currency exchange rate. She says that maybe if it goes back down but she won't see guys for pesos. Damn, and I really did have nothing but pesos on me.

Phordphan
02-18-15, 19:58
A well stated point. Only the girls that have now become regular working girls all adopt the all mighty dollar. Yet, new girls who have just arrived and less than a month will still accept pesos. I approached a girl in the afternoon and tried to negotiate a good price. She said Dollars and I said pesos was all I had. So before we got to the numbers, she stopped me and told me the dollar is strong right now and she does not want pesos. WTF? It caught me off guard. It was the first time a girl actually pays attention to the currency exchange rate. She says that maybe if it goes back down but she won't see guys for pesos. Damn, and I really did have nothing but pesos on me.Dayum. The next words out of my mouth would have been Adios, baby. Or, maybe, Puta, meet curb! :D

PimpinIt
02-19-15, 21:43
It is extremely difficult to get BBFS and cip anywhere in Tijuana unless you get to know the girl real well and trusts you. The girls are extremely well educated in the risks. I have been able to on a few occasions, but not till the girl knew me well and we had some kind of relationship going. Just sayin.Not hard to get AT ALL!

Throw an extra $20 at the girl, and chances are she'll agree.

Or you cn ask one of the meseros to help you find one.

PimpinIt
02-19-15, 21:48
Not available at HK, but Luz at Mexicolindobar.com is a great greek provider. She truly loves it. I give her 2 thumbs way up. And she is highly rat. on ***.VERY available in hk. Throw an extra $20 at the girl and she might agree, or ask a mesero to help you find one.

Generally when I've had greek, it hasnt been asked or negotiated. Sometimes I just start playing w their little (or big depending on the frequency of use) culito, and it just happens. Sometimes you have to be more forceful than others.

It also doesn't hurt to have a passed out drunk chick, and a room for the whole night. .

PimpinIt
02-19-15, 21:54
VERY available in hk. Throw an extra $20 at the girl and she might agree, or ask a mesero to help you find one.

Generally when I've had greek, it hasnt been asked or negotiated. Sometimes I just start playing w their little (or big depending on the frequency of use) culito, and it just happens. Sometimes you have to be more forceful than others.

It also doesn't hurt to have a passed out drunk chick, and a room for the whole night. .Sry, didn't realize you were looking for details.

Putas are generally willing to be more agreeable to whatever your reqyest if you can get them more horny first. Usually ill buy them a drink, and start a convo, then slowly uncrease the phys contact till I'm kissing their necks, and playing w chichis / panocha. At that point, I've got about 75% success rate that theybagree to wutever I'm asking, be it cheaper price or extra menu items.

A buddy of mine whole only doess BBFS says he never negotiates it in the club, he just gets them super horny in the room, and it just happens. He prolly uses xtra $ as a bargaining point too. He says he has highbsuccess rate w that style.

It also doesn't hurt to have a passed out drunk chick, and a room for the night. .

ClamSlammer
02-20-15, 07:01
It is extremely difficult to get BBFS and cip anywhere in Tijuana unless you get to know the girl real well and trusts you. The girls are extremely well educated in the risks. I have been able to on a few occasions, but not till the girl knew me well and we had some kind of relationship going. Just sayin.The overwhelming majority of the chicas I've bagged never mentioned a condom. I'd say maybe 15% mentioned it, 15% insisted on it and the other 70% didn't give a fuck. Honestly I wonder is some of them even know what a condom is. Think about it, by the time the typical Mexican chica is 22 she's probably given birth an average of two times.

TomJackin
02-21-15, 08:29
The overwhelming majority of the chicas I've bagged never mentioned a condom. I'd say maybe 15% mentioned it, 15% insisted on it and the other 70% didn't give a fuck. Honestly I wonder is some of them even know what a condom is. Think about it, by the time the typical Mexican chica is 22 she's probably given birth an average of two times.Are we talking about HK chicas?

If so, this is very bad information. I've been going to HK for years and most of the girls, my guess is 90% will not do a damn sex act without a condom, this includes a simple blowjob.

So what if the typical Mexican chica is 22 and she has probably given birth an average of two times, the last thing she wants, is another bastard child.

It would help if you stop putting out bullshit information.

Any other HK clients wish to chime in on this discussion?

Phordphan
02-21-15, 09:48
Are we talking about HK chicas?

If so, this is very bad information. I've been going to HK for years and most of the girls, my guess is 90% will not do a damn sex act without a condom, this includes a simple blowjob.

So what if the typical Mexican chica is 22 and she has probably given birth an average of two times, the last thing she wants, is another bastard child.

It would help if you stop putting out bullshit information.

Any other HK clients wish to chime in on this discussion?He's full of it. I can't recall a HK chica who didn't insist on a condom, including BJ. I hate covered BJ, so I hunt elsewhere these days. But I still run across a fair percentage of independent chicas who want to do CBJ. BBFS? Yes, on occasion. But they are the exception. HK? Never in my experience.

ClamSlammer
02-21-15, 09:57
Are we talking about HK chicas?

If so, this is very bad information. I've been going to HK for years and most of the girls, my guess is 90% will not do a damn sex act without a condom, this includes a simple blowjob.

So what if the typical Mexican chica is 22 and she has probably given birth an average of two times, the last thing she wants, is another bastard child.

It would help if you stop putting out bullshit information.

Any other HK clients wish to chime in on this discussion?It would help if you could stop accusing a poster of putting out bullshit information when you really don't have a clue. All you really know for sure is your experience. I'm not calling you a bullshitter for posting your personal experience. But you're calling me a bullshitter for posting my own. The KEY is the guy. If you're old, bald, fat, smelly, creepy looking, then yeah, the chicas are going to be all business and will insist on a condom unless enticed by a financial incentive. But if you're not any of the aforementioned, possess a little charm and Spanish skills, then your odds go up dramatically. I by no means am young, have a full head of hair or chiseled. I probably smell good though. And when I pull chicas OTC there's no business involved so I think chicas are less inclined to insist on a condom. The first chica I ever pulled out of HK just started to BB and I was somewhat shocked. Shocked enough that I myself mentioned "no condom?" She just looked at me and kept going at it. I'd say from my personal experiences with HK chicas only about 25% insisted on condom. That's how it is for me. So I'm sure it can be like that for others too.

TomJackin
02-21-15, 10:07
He's full of it. I can't recall a HK chica who didn't insist on a condom, including BJ. I hate covered BJ, so I hunt elsewhere these days. But I still run across a fair percentage of independent chicas who want to do CBJ. BBFS? Yes, on occasion. But they are the exception. HK? Never in my experience.HK chicas have their standards. I don't care how much Spanish you know, how great you fucking smell, or how much game you have in a hooker bar, the girls in HK do everything covered; hell, I just came from there. I'm there every weekend; thus, I know something.

Yes, believe what other studs post, but the reality exist; covered.

TomJackin
02-21-15, 10:12
I'd say from my personal experiences with HK chicas only about 25% insisted on condom. That's how it is for me. Absolute bullshit!

I would be happy to meet up with you so you could prove me wrong; and I would buy the drinks!

HorseTrader
02-21-15, 13:13
The overwhelming majority of the chicas I've bagged never mentioned a condom.I believe that is a true statement. They don't mention it because they just use it. I've had BB offered from time to time, but it is unusual.

GolfSexRroll
02-21-15, 14:57
It would help if you could stop accusing a poster of putting out bullshit information when you really don't have a clue. All you really know for sure is your experience. I'm not calling you a bullshitter for posting your personal experience. But you're calling me a bullshitter for posting my own. The KEY is the guy. If you're old, bald, fat, smelly, creepy looking, then yeah, the chicas are going to be all business and will insist on a condom unless enticed by a financial incentive. But if you're not any of the aforementioned, possess a little charm and Spanish skills, then your odds go up dramatically. I by no means am young, have a full head of hair or chiseled. I probably smell good though. And when I pull chicas OTC there's no business involved so I think chicas are less inclined to insist on a condom. The first chica I ever pulled out of HK just started to BB and I was somewhat shocked. Shocked enough that I myself mentioned "no condom?" She just looked at me and kept going at it. I'd say from my personal experiences with HK chicas only about 25% insisted on condom. That's how it is for me. So I'm sure it can be like that for others too.I have been going to Hong Kong for over 4 years. I am in Tijuana EVERY week. No condom IS SLIM! I too call BULLSHIT! Chicas are into "safety. Not your game. Unless you are throwing an unusual amount of money at them. STILL. Most will not BB (anything). That is my finding. The "statement..."will the use of condom will come into discussion"...is not brought up...may be true...because it is just not up for normal negotiation...because it is almost ALWAYS with a cover!

FlapJacK
02-21-15, 17:19
I have been going to Hong Kong for over 4 years. I am in Tijuana EVERY week. No condom IS SLIM! I too call BULLSHIT! Chicas are into "safety. Not your game. Unless you are throwing an unusual amount of money at them. STILL. Most will not BB (anything). That is my finding. The "statement..."will the use of condom will come into discussion"...is not brought up...may be true...because it is just not up for normal negotiation...because it is almost ALWAYS with a cover!I will agree most will not BB anything but I have came across a few who did with me. In the mid 90's Chicago club I was seeing this chick the went BB with me half a dozen times before she disappeared. I've known a few over the years that would BB BJ with come in mouth and just a few years ago I met this young hottie from Adelitas who I got to know and was seeing her out side of the club a few times and she went a little bb action with me as well, She ended up marrying some guy and moving to California and she is one of my face book friends LOL. Also there have been a few that have started out with a little bb on their own will but got nervous, backed out and switched to condom. I am in no way advocating for BB action but it does and can happen.

FlapJacK
02-21-15, 17:20
Absolute bullshit!

I would be happy to meet up with you so you could prove me wrong; and I would buy the drinks!How are you going to prove this? Is he going to watch? LOL.

Jackie888
02-21-15, 18:09
Since 2003 when I first visited tijuana, I have never been offered non-condom sex. Never. And yes I am good looking and charming, and been invited home and after hours on many occassions. The farthest I ve been offered was to cum in a gals mouth. I ve visited Tijuana so many times in the last 12 months that the door guys at HK don't even pat me down, and the girls remember me by name.

ClamSlammer
02-21-15, 22:08
Gentlemen, I think you all have missed one of my points. I too agree that when conducted in a business sense, sexual services for money, at Cascadas or other hotel, for intercourse chicas will insist on condom close to 100% of the time. It's when you get them OTC and it more personal than business, then that's when these same 100% condom chicas go BB. They're not as well educated and disciplined as some may think.

TomJackin
02-21-15, 23:00
Gentlemen, I think you all have missed one of my points. I too agree that when conducted in a business sense, sexual services for money, at Cascadas or other hotel, for intercourse chicas will insist on condom close to 100% of the time. It's when you get them OTC and it more personal than business, then that's when these same 100% condom chicas go BB. They're not as well educated and disciplined as some may think.No, you missed the point as many others that chimed in this topic. These chicas are educated when in it comes to sex and they most will not go sin condom during sex, and most will require condoms even with blowjobs.

The fact is, you are providing false information to others; please stop the bullshit!

ItsMeBeyatch
02-21-15, 23:14
I agree that its bullshit if someone says they get BFFS 75% of the time unless your throwing large amounts of cash toward the chicas. I am in my late 30's, dress casual and have great hygiene and I am also mexican American fluent in Spanish and can relate 100% with the chicas and still 9 out of 10 times chicas will demand a condom for sex. If you become a regular and or develop a personal relationship with a chica then there's a possibility for the BFFS. Now BBBJ are more like 70% - 30% in HK. This is what I have seen and experienced.


No, you missed the point as many others that chimed in this topic. These chicas are educated when in it comes to sex and they most will not go sin condom during sex, and most will require condoms even with blowjobs.

The fact is, you are providing false information to others; please stop the bullshit!.

ClamSlammer
02-21-15, 23:16
No, you missed the point as many others that chimed in this topic. These chicas are educated when in it comes to sex and they most will not go sin condom during sex, and most will require condoms even with blowjobs.

The fact is, you are providing false information to others; please stop the bullshit!The fact is, these chicas are very lightly educated when it comes to the risks of sexual intercourse. I bet you're probably one of the naïve clueless mongers who also believe the chicas are thoroughly tested for STD's. Estamos en Mexico menso!

PimpinIt
02-22-15, 02:41
No, you missed the point as many others that chimed in this topic. These chicas are educated when in it comes to sex and they most will not go sin condom during sex, and most will require condoms even with blowjobs.

The fact is, you are providing false information to others; please stop the bullshit!I'm sorry you guys are not having any fun in Tijuana. *sad smiley face*.

TomJackin
02-22-15, 04:04
I'm sorry you guys are not having any fun in Tijuana. *sad smiley face*.I have a great time every weekend, covered of course.:D

Phordphan
02-22-15, 05:00
No, you missed the point as many others that chimed in this topic. These chicas are educated when in it comes to sex and they most will not go sin condom during sex, and most will require condoms even with blowjobs.

The fact is, you are providing false information to others; please stop the bullshit!I've certainly had my share of OTC club chicas. Exactly one consented to BBFS after a long time. Some never got past the CBJ stage. I can understand, as most of them had been knocked up and abandoned at least once. They certainly didn't want a repeat. OP pulled that 75% figure out of his ass.

Jackie888
02-22-15, 06:11
Non-condom sex= pregnancy = 9 months of no income.

The girls know exactly what the impact of unprotected sex is. They're survivalists. They understand money.

GolfSexRroll
02-22-15, 07:28
Gentlemen, I think you all have missed one of my points. I too agree that when conducted in a business sense, sexual services for money, at Cascadas or other hotel, for intercourse chicas will insist on condom close to 100% of the time. It's when you get them OTC and it more personal than business, then that's when these same 100% condom chicas go BB. They're not as well educated and disciplined as some may think.What I think you are saying HERE in this statement: that when you take them "off campus" on their own time. (Like a civvie type "date") you are more likely to get a BBBJ / BBFS (close to 100% Maybe? (not 100%. Or close) IMHO.

This is COMEPLETELY different than a statement that 75% of HK chicas will BB. That statement tells less frequent (or newbies) that BB is the norm taking a HK girl to Cascada. Which is NOT the case.

ClamSlammer
02-22-15, 10:59
What I think you are saying HERE in this statement: that when you take them "off campus" on their own time. (Like a civvie type "date") you are more likely to get a BBBJ / BBFS (close to 100% Maybe? (not 100%. Or close) IMHO.

This is COMEPLETELY different than a statement that 75% of HK chicas will BB. That statement tells less frequent (or newbies) that BB is the norm taking a HK girl to Cascada. Which is NOT the case.That is pretty much what I'm trying to say, except I don't think your chances of getting BBFS from a civvie type date is 100% or close to 100%. For me it's more like 70%. And yes I believe a business encounter at Cascades the chances of BBFS is 1% or less.

ClamSlammer
02-22-15, 11:03
Non-condom sex= pregnancy = 9 months of no income.

The girls know exactly what the impact of unprotected sex is. They're survivalists. They understand money.

That may be true but we all occasionally ignore the potential consequences of our actions, especially when sex and drinking is involved. Unprotected sex for us guys in America can lead to 18 years worth of child support payments and we still do it. And many of the chicas are on birth control so they are not as concerned about pregnancy as you attest.

PimpinIt
02-22-15, 23:02
That may be true but we all occasionally ignore the potential consequences of our actions, especially when sex and drinking is involved. Unprotected sex for us guys in America can lead to 18 years worth of child support payments and we still do it. And many of the chicas are on birth control so they are not as concerned about pregnancy as you attest.My friends REGULARLY get bare from bar girls they pick up after their shifts at valentina or malquerida. Many of the girls from hk and adels and all the clubs will go to valentinas or malquerida for after party. If you have the game to pick them up in this kind of environment, BBFS is common. Of course its not 100%, some girls are more cautious than others, but when they get drunk and party and horny, it just happens. Oopsies.

In 2014, a buddy of mine is about 99% bare for girls out of hk, adels, LC, BT collectively. This is bc he asks the girls directly in the club, and the ones who reject, he sends away. Prolly about 66% of the girls he asks agree, but this is bc of his very effective pre-game which includes getting them horny first, and offering tips for extra services.

Another buddy of mine never asks in the club, and just gets them super horny upstairs so it happens. He also compenates them pretty well, so that is a contributing factor.

Other guys work 'magic' tricks w the condom so that it 'disappears' or 'breaks' during sex. Oopsies.

There is a lot of bare to be had in the zona, just depends on what tactics you want to use to get it.

ClamSlammer
02-23-15, 00:28
My friends REGULARLY get bare from bar girls they pick up after their shifts at valentina or malquerida. Many of the girls from hk and adels and all the clubs will go to valentinas or malquerida for after party. If you have the game to pick them up in this kind of environment, BBFS is common. Of course its not 100%, some girls are more cautious than others, but when they get drunk and party and horny, it just happens. Oopsies.

In 2014, a buddy of mine is about 99% bare for girls out of hk, adels, LC, BT collectively. This is bc he asks the girls directly in the club, and the ones who reject, he sends away. Prolly about 66% of the girls he asks agree, but this is bc of his very effective pre-game which includes getting them horny first, and offering tips for extra services.

Another buddy of mine never asks in the club, and just gets them super horny upstairs so it happens. He also compenates them pretty well, so that is a contributing factor.

Other guys work 'magic' tricks w the condom so that it 'disappears' or 'breaks' during sex. Oopsies.

There is a lot of bare to be had in the zona, just depends on what tactics you want to use to get it.Exactly Pimpin, once you start to get your feet wet in Tijuana the sharp monger will start looking to advance their game a bit and explore options not typically available to the newbie. Surprisingly there are still 30 year Tijuana vet "newbies" on this board who haven't advanced their game beyond that of a first-night newbie. I'll post some info here and these "vet-newbies" will call bullshit because they can't fathom anything beyond their limited view of the Zona. If I see a HK chica a like, I'll have the mesero bring her over shortly before my guess of when her shift ends. I'll buy her 2-3 fichas, sweet talk her, invite her to MQ and 75% of the time she'll accept. Then after a few drinks at MQ I'll take her back to the pad and fuck her for free, usually BB but not always. I do this regularly. Now these vet-newbies are going to read this post and call bullshit on me. I'm not going to out any chicas but I only go after the top tier and you guys would be amazed at which chicas constantly call me and want to come over or want me to come by their house. These are f'and amazing trophy chicas I'm talking about. And I'm not rich or look like Johnny Depp so if I can do it then it's really not that difficult.

Jackie888
02-24-15, 18:50
Funny but I've frequented Valentina and the other two across the street about 8 times in the last 3 months and I've never recognize a HK girl there between the hours of 7 pm-2 am. Kind of difficult to miss them as most of the girls are fat, and a HK girl would have stood out like a sore thumb.

Phordphan
02-24-15, 22:13
Funny but I've frequented Valentina and the other two across the street about 8 times in the last 3 months and I've never recognize a HK girl there between the hours of 7 pm-2 am. Kind of difficult to miss them as most of the girls are fat, and a HK girl would have stood out like a sore thumb.I'm with you. I don't go to Valentina's often, but La Malquerida is one of Rocky the Flying Squirrel's favorite places (although I'm not sure why). The chicas who work there are obvious (and obviously not HK material). The other patrons tend toward local couples, groups of friends, and an occasional gringo. A gaggle of HK chicas would stick out like a peacock in a henhouse. I don't buy that it's a great place to pick up off-shift HK ladies. IMHO, most of your day-shift ladies need to get home to kids, family, etc. Sure, there are occasional birthdays and celebrations. But consistently? I'm skeptical.

ItsMeBeyatch
02-25-15, 04:19
I've seen HK, LC, Adelitas and tropical chicas partying at la Valentin and the more popular malquerida. Pimpinit is correct about being able to pick up chicas here if you have the game. Speaking spanish is a must though. I've done it. Doesn't work all the time. I've been there with HK chicas, tropical chicas and my fav who used to work at LC. This is one of my favorite chicas favorite spots. Shit. We might be there this weekend. She used to work at LC and has a army of friends who work at HK and LC and they frequently party at Valentin and Malqy. They call la malquerida. Malqy. They usually will be there anytime from 1 pm to 8 am. The chicas do look different in there regular clothes. Sometimes even hotter than in the chica clubs. I mexican American and I can blend in easily most of the time. My chica says everyone loves this place because they have a live singer and on Sunday's they have a live band if I'm not mistaken. One day they had a live band playing old school and newer corridos. The whole place was going wild.

If you aren't to old, to fat or to ugly you can get a chica here if you have game.


I'm with you. I don't go to Valentina's often, but La Malquerida is one of Rocky the Flying Squirrel's favorite places (although I'm not sure why). The chicas who work there are obvious (and obviously not HK material). The other patrons tend toward local couples, groups of friends, and an occasional gringo. A gaggle of HK chicas would stick out like a peacock in a henhouse. I don't buy that it's a great place to pick up off-shift HK ladies. IMHO, most of your day-shift ladies need to get home to kids, family, etc. Sure, there are occasional birthdays and celebrations. But consistently? I'm skeptical..

SBeach25
02-25-15, 06:33
I've seen HK, LC, Adelitas and tropical chicas partying at la Valentin and the more popular malquerida. Pimpinit is correct about being able to pick up chicas here if you have the game. Speaking spanish is a must though. I've done it. Doesn't work all the time. I've been there with HK chicas, tropical chicas and my fav who used to work at LC. This is one of my favorite chicas favorite spots. Shit. We might be there this weekend. She used to work at LC and has a army of friends who work at HK and LC and they frequently party at Valentin and Malqy. They call la malquerida. Malqy. They usually will be there anytime from 1 pm to 8 am. The chicas do look different in there regular clothes. Sometimes even hotter than in the chica clubs. I mexican American and I can blend in easily most of the time. My chica says everyone loves this place because they have a live singer and on Sunday's they have a live band if I'm not mistaken. One day they had a live band playing old school and newer corridos. The whole place was going wild.

If you aren't to old, to fat or to ugly you can get a chica here if you have game.

.I'm down there every weekend for the past 6 months. I stay in the cacadas and about midnight I go to bed to wake up at 4 am to go there to meet a couple of girls there. Damn, why can't we do this conversation on the PM. Now we are going to have to compete with these guys who don't know the meaning of catch and release and all they want to do is wife them.

TomJackin
02-25-15, 07:07
If you aren't to old, to fat or to ugly you can get a chica here if you have game.Well, that leaves me out!:(

BTW, if I was young, slim, and good looking; I would have no reason to go to Tijuana. Just saying.

ClamSlammer
02-25-15, 07:11
MQ used to be like a 3rd home to me. I remember many mornings partying there till 9 am with HK chicas. Is definitely the place to be past 3 am on weekends. A lot calmer on weekdays but almost always there is a live band. Valentina's is okay too but the DJ sucks and will clear the place out by playing old slow banda music like vincente Fernandez and shit. Beers are always 2-4-1 and cheaper than MQ but still not worth it. Lots of jealous chicas throw down with each other at Valentina's and the first thing the meseros do during the commotion is snatch any unattended smartphones.

ItsMeBeyatch
02-25-15, 07:28
LOL. I guess I'm just a dirty dog. I would go to Tijuana if I was 21 and looked like Brad Pitt or 50 years old fat and bald.


Well, that leaves me out!:(

BTW, if I was young, slim, and good looking; I would have no reason to go to Tijuana. Just saying..

ItsMeBeyatch
02-25-15, 07:32
Very true about the music. If you don't like spanish music then stay away from malquerida and Valentin. Music is geared more for the younger mexican local.


MQ used to be like a 3rd home to me. I remember many mornings partying there till 9 am with HK chicas. Is definitely the place to be past 3 am on weekends. A lot calmer on weekdays but almost always there is a live band. Valentina's is okay too but the DJ sucks and will clear the place out by playing old slow banda music like vincente Fernandez and shit. Beers are always 2-4-1 and cheaper than MQ but still not worth it. Lots of jealous chicas throw down with each other at Valentina's and the first thing the meseros do during the commotion is snatch any unattended smartphones..

Mrgrape
02-25-15, 19:41
Can I tag along with someone next weekend? I'm a newbie.

Phordphan
02-25-15, 20:23
Can I tag along with someone next weekend? I'm a newbie.You'll need to spring for a Senior membership in order to send / receive PMs. Otherwise it will be practically impossible to hook up with somebody. Nobody will post specific meeting places and times.

Quick Love
02-25-15, 21:43
Can I tag along with someone next weekend? I'm a newbie.Hi Mrgrape,

If you tend to partake in the mongering hobby I would highly suggest getting a membership it's not that expensive and worth it with all the knowledge you get. Plus it's good to PM fellow hobbyist. I will be in Tijuana March 6th, I'll buy you a drink if I see ya.

Pachanga408
02-26-15, 02:34
Can I tag along with someone next weekend? I'm a newbie.Dang grape I'm at airport now. A week too late / early however you want to look at it.

Guitarrefreak
02-26-15, 08:04
You'll need to spring for a Senior membership in order to send / receive PMs. Otherwise it will be practically impossible to hook up with somebody. Nobody will post specific meeting places and times.Rather, would you even trust the specific place / time? Not to say we don't have the integrity / maturity to keep a promise but, who the fuck stands there and wait for another fellow monger to show up? : the.

Metal_Mickey
02-27-15, 04:01
Caballeros:

Haven't been to Tijuana in a while for various reasons, but am planning to make the sojourn to Tijuana next week. So it seems that Hong Kong has completely surpassed all the other clubs, including AB, in terms of popularity and talent--is that correct? Is it, then, common knowledge that the girls prefer to work there as well? Is there a noticeably higher ratio of 8-10's at HK as opposed to all the other clubs?

In the past (early 2000's), I much preferred AB to HK--the talent seemed better and it just seemed more 'convenient' with the hotel right outside the door. With that in mind, do the HK girls use the Cascades hotel or what? What's the short-time fee? At AB's it used to be $11.

I know--too lazy to research. Beers for answers!

Cheers!

UltraHappy
02-27-15, 04:06
Caballeros:

Haven't been to Tijuana in a while for various reasons, but am planning to make the sojourn to Tijuana next week. So it seems that Hong Kong has completely surpassed all the other clubs, including AB, in terms of popularity and talent--is that correct? Is it, then, common knowledge that the girls prefer to work there as well? Is there a noticeably higher ratio of 8-10's at HK as opposed to all the other clubs?
Yes.


Caballeros:

In the past (early 2000's), I much preferred AB to HK--the talent seemed better and it just seemed more 'convenient' with the hotel right outside the door. With that in mind, do the HK girls use the Cascades hotel or what? What's the short-time fee? At AB's it used to be $11.
$17/ half hour or just rent a room for the night. See their web site for the pricing. Buy the VIP card for the discount. Don't pay for more than 1 night at a time if you are renting for multiple nights.

ClamSlammer
02-27-15, 05:56
Caballeros:

Is there a noticeably higher ratio of 8-10's at HK as opposed to all the other clubs?

Cheers!You've must have been away for a long time. Since I've been coming down to Tijuana I've only seen one chica I'd consider a '9' working at AB around 2010 or so. Seeing a '10' in the zona is a pipe dream. I'd consider 2 or 3 '8's' working on a weekend night at HK pretty standard. At AB / HK the overwhelming majority of chicas are '6-7' range.

HelpRules
02-28-15, 17:43
LOL. I guess I'm just a dirty dog. I would go to Tijuana if I was 21 and looked like Brad Pitt or 50 years old fat and bald...Justin Beiber got busted in a brothel in Brazil. Sometimes paying for pussy is just fucking exciting.

ItsMeBeyatch
03-01-15, 21:40
Going into Hk about to pay for my beer / cover charge Saturday night when I pull out my money clip. In my clip I have my expired license and cascadas room card key. In the back entrance tony tells me I don't have to pay the cover as long as I'm staying at cascadas. He said it's like the VIP card when entering HK. You won't get that free beer but you don't have to pay the cover. He said what. They didn't tell you upstairs. Of course they didn't tony and I come here atleast once or twice a month. Tony shakes his head and I tip him a couple of bucks for the great info. All night I'm in and out flashing my cascadas card going through the other side not waiting in line.

You stay in cascadas don't pay the cover just show your room key on Fri. / sat night.

Quick Love
03-03-15, 12:39
Going into Hk about to pay for my beer / cover charge Saturday night when I pull out my money clip. In my clip I have my expired license and cascadas room card key. In the back entrance tony tells me I don't have to pay the cover as long as I'm staying at cascadas. He said it's like the VIP card when entering HK. You won't get that free beer but you don't have to pay the cover. He said what. They didn't tell you upstairs. Of course they didn't tony and I come here atleast once or twice a month. Tony shakes his head and I tip him a couple of bucks for the great info. All night I'm in and out flashing my cascadas card going through the other side not waiting in line.

You stay in cascadas don't pay the cover just show your room key on Fri. / sat night.That's awesome to know, I've been going to Tijuana pretty often for the past year while staying at Cascadas about 90% of the time. And I knew nothing about this. That's great. I'll be there this weekend trying my new found perks.

Also side note has anyone had any problems leaving their bag or belongings in the front entrance of Hong Kong, usually they put a pin on your stuff and give you a number so when your ready to come pick it up, usually I've had no problems but one time, I gave them my number and they said they couldn't find any bag, until I saw it in the closet and it had a different number on it, luckily I had my ID in my pocket and another ID in my bag to prove it was my bag, since then I only use the reception desk at Cascadas to hold on to my stuff.

Ninguno Especial
03-08-15, 21:48
Going into Hk about to pay for my beer / cover charge Saturday night when I pull out my money clip. In my clip I have my expired license and cascadas room card key. In the back entrance tony tells me I don't have to pay the cover as long as I'm staying at cascadas. He said it's like the VIP card when entering HK. You won't get that free beer but you don't have to pay the cover. He said what. They didn't tell you upstairs. Of course they didn't tony and I come here atleast once or twice a month. Tony shakes his head and I tip him a couple of bucks for the great info. All night I'm in and out flashing my cascadas card going through the other side not waiting in line.

You stay in cascadas don't pay the cover just show your room key on Fri. / sat night.Nice to know but in reality it is not a typical cover. Call it the equivalent of a "1 drink minimum" in the good old US of A.

And. How many of you "card flashers" don't end up with a drink in front of you before you leave? Unless you are looking for a particular chica in which case a reliable mesero would have already contacted you by WhatsApp or texto.

Bottom line, is drop this "cover charge" term which originated in the good old US of A and is touted by barkers on Revolution as well as down the hill in the belly of the beast.

Better still, just go before whatever time on weekdays or weekends and avoid the ice chest entirely.

Gsil247
03-16-15, 22:32
Has anyone had the massage service offered at Hotel Casadas? What are the prices? Is this a Tijuana massage where it's hot girls naked giving you a body rub or American style and some fat ugly old lady? I emailed the hotel and they just said it was done by, "professionals."

Any help is appreciate.

FlapJacK
03-17-15, 05:01
Has anyone had the massage service offered at Hotel Casadas? What are the prices? Is this a Tijuana massage where it's hot girls naked giving you a body rub or American style and some fat ugly old lady? I emailed the hotel and they just said it was done by, "professionals."

Any help is appreciate.I never heard of Hotel Casadas offering any kind of massage. Their only purpose that I am aware of is to provide a room for sex or for the entire night.

The massage you are looking for is called Nuru and I have not hear of any providers in Tijuana that offer that. Maybe some of the private escorts might.

I'm sure though with enough money you could get some of the HK girls to do it but it probably would not be a real Nuru massage. You would have to ask around

ItsMeBeyatch
03-17-15, 06:28
When I first started going to Tijuana I wanted to get a massage and inquired about this at cascadas. It's supposed to be a real massage. We went to see the price of the massage twice and both times the person giving the massage wasn't there. I never inquired about this again.


Has anyone had the massage service offered at Hotel Casadas? What are the prices? Is this a Tijuana massage where it's hot girls naked giving you a body rub or American style and some fat ugly old lady? I emailed the hotel and they just said it was done by, "professionals."

Any help is appreciate..

ItsMeBeyatch
03-17-15, 08:33
On 2/28 Saturday around 12:30 pm I checked in to Cascadas and was given room #622 if I remember correctly. I checked in on the alley side. I went to my room and opened the door and there was a older Latin guy in there looking like he just woke up. He yells and said hey, I told you guys to knock when you come in. I tell him I'm a guest just like him. This is the room they gave me with a firm voice. He says man I told these guys I'm staying another night. He apologized and said sorry man it's just these guys came in here like this before. I say no man I'm sorry this is your room and this is just what they gave me have a good one. We fist bump. LOL. I go down stairs and in Spanish say wtf. They give me another room. #605. Cascadas guy comes up with me this time. We go in the room and it's all good. I could of easily gone through the guys things if I was a thief and he wasn't there. This had never happened before to me in all the times going to cascadas.

FlapJacK
03-17-15, 18:15
When I first started going to Tijuana I wanted to get a massage and inquired about this at cascadas. It's supposed to be a real massage. We went to see the price of the massage twice and both times the person giving the massage wasn't there. I never inquired about this again.

.Anyone looking for a real massage should not look for it in the zona. There are a few places in town.

The one I go to is called Aztec Massage near the corner of 2nd street and revolution. The working girls in the zona give crap massages.

CumberlandBlue
03-18-15, 01:41
I usually just buy the beer as I see it as part of the requirement to be in there and they shark meseros will be all over you anyways for a beer anyways. Has anyone tried flashing their door card and not paid?


Going into Hk about to pay for my beer / cover charge Saturday night when I pull out my money clip. In my clip I have my expired license and cascadas room card key. In the back entrance tony tells me I don't have to pay the cover as long as I'm staying at cascadas. He said it's like the VIP card when entering HK. You won't get that free beer but you don't have to pay the cover. He said what. They didn't tell you upstairs. Of course they didn't tony and I come here atleast once or twice a month. Tony shakes his head and I tip him a couple of bucks for the great info. All night I'm in and out flashing my cascadas card going through the other side not waiting in line.

You stay in cascadas don't pay the cover just show your room key on Fri. / sat night.

Gsil247
03-25-15, 04:23
I have a few questions if someone could help me out with that:

1) This weekend is HK's annual Spring Break celebration. How much busier do you think / expect it to get on Saturday night and Sunday afternoon?

2) I've always wanted to spend time with a women in a hot tub. Been a fantasy of mine for some time. I know Hotel Cascadas has hot tubs in the room but what can / should I say to the chicas at HK to get them to go in there? Do I just ask before hiring to bring them back and say, "I reserved a room with a hot tub. I would like you to escort me and be the other person inside the tub with me as I don't want to be in there myself. Would this service cost extra, does its include for the 30 minutes or do you not provide that service and I am left to imagination?" Please help me.

GolfSexRroll
03-25-15, 17:46
I have a few questions if someone could help me out with that:

1) This weekend is HK's annual Spring Break celebration. How much busier do you think / expect it to get on Saturday night and Sunday afternoon?

2) I've always wanted to spend time with a women in a hot tub. Been a fantasy of mine for some time. I know Hotel Cascadas has hot tubs in the room but what can / should I say to the chicas at HK to get them to go in there? Do I just ask before hiring to bring them back and say, "I reserved a room with a hot tub. I would like you to escort me and be the other person inside the tub with me as I don't want to be in there myself. Would this service cost extra, does its include for the 30 minutes or do you not provide that service and I am left to imagination?" Please help me.When you talk to the chica just ask. On a Saturday or Friday the chica probably will be busy. As these are their money nights. You can negotiate a price that both of you are comfortable with. You might want an hour session, which will cost more.

FlapJacK
03-25-15, 18:50
I have a few questions if someone could help me out with that:

1) This weekend is HK's annual Spring Break celebration. How much busier do you think / expect it to get on Saturday night and Sunday afternoon?

2) I've always wanted to spend time with a women in a hot tub. Been a fantasy of mine for some time.
I know Hotel Cascadas has hot tubs in the room but what can / should I say to the chicas at HK to get them to go in there?
Do I just ask before hiring to bring them back and say, "I reserved a room with a hot tub.
I would like you to escort me and be the other person inside the tub with me as I don't want to be in there myself.
Would this service cost extra, does its include for the 30 minutes or do you not provide that service and I am left to imagination?" Please help me.Another option to help with your hot tub fantasy is to go with one of the escort services and get a nice jacuzzi room at Motel Premier.

Check out "Cum In Tijuana" or "mexico lindo bar" escort service.

I have used several times over the years and not a bad option if your looking for something different than the bar/street scene.

ThrowAway3602
03-26-15, 01:09
I don't know if a lot of the HK girls offer anal (since it takes a little prep time know), but what's a good way to approach it? My Spanish es muy poquito, so the only thing I can think of is sexo en culo, and I have no idea if that's correct LOL!

HorseTrader
03-26-15, 16:30
2) I've always wanted to spend time with a women in a hot tub. Been a fantasy of mine for some time. I know Hotel Cascadas has hot tubs in the room but what can / should I say to the chicas at HK to get them to go in there? Do I just ask before hiring to bring them back and say, "I reserved a room with a hot tub. I would like you to escort me and be the other person inside the tub with me as I don't want to be in there myself. Would this service cost extra, does its include for the 30 minutes or do you not provide that service and I am left to imagination?" Please help me.Be sure your plans include time allowance to fill the hot tub. I've never used a Cascadas hot tub, but, the large Ticuan hot tubs take about 30 minutes to fill. Water pressure at Ticuan is great, water pressure at Cascadas isn't as good. I don't know how large the Cascadas hot tubs are or how long they take to fill.

Be sure to negotiate your time and tub expectations while you are still in Hong Kong. The standard service from the Hong Kong girls is CBJ and CFS. They usually take a quick shower after and are back in the club about 30 minutes after she left the club. Sometimes you get less, sometimes you get more.

Jackie888
03-26-15, 16:33
I don't know if a lot of the HK girls offer anal (since it takes a little prep time know), but what's a good way to approach it? My Spanish es muy poquito, so the only thing I can think of is sexo en culo, and I have no idea if that's correct LOL!That's close enough. But you need to avoid the "bait and switch" gals. IMO the ones who upfront quote you two seperate prices are professional and legitimate. Ones who promise everything for one low price tend to change their minds.

SeanHannity
03-28-15, 01:29
I don't know if a lot of the HK girls offer anal (since it takes a little prep time know), but what's a good way to approach it? My Spanish es muy poquito, so the only thing I can think of is sexo en culo, and I have no idea if that's correct LOL!I score anal from about ten percent of the HK girls I ask. If anal is mandatory it is better to politely ask before buying drinks if they are up for this. Usually they want to know if you are hung like a mule before committing.

Member #4450
03-29-15, 06:04
Usually they want to know if you are hung like a mule before committing.Very true but also what is normal size to you is not for her and she might change the deal in the room after inspection of the mule.

HorseTrader
03-29-15, 18:22
I have a special email address that is only used for mongering. Its only Mexican use has been to contact CuminTJ.com, for three HK VIP card registrations, and a couple emails to Cascadas. No place else in Mexico knows of that email address. It's a very simple address, just 5 characters plus a popular domain name.

Until this morning, that email hadn't been checked since last summer. But this morning I found a September email from one of my favorite HK girls. She was asking when I would come back. I didn't give her the email address and don't know how she got it. From the front desk at HK? From Cascadas? Maybe saw it when I was checking in at HK using my VIP card?

This worries me a bit. Glad I don't use my normal email address.

Member #4450
03-29-15, 20:40
I have a special email address that is only used for mongering. Its only Mexican use has been to contact CuminTJ.com, for three HK VIP card registrations, and a couple emails to Cascadas. No place else in Mexico knows of that email address. It's a very simple address, just 5 characters plus a popular domain name.

Until this morning, that email hadn't been checked since last summer. But this morning I found a September email from one of my favorite HK girls. She was asking when I would come back. I didn't give her the email address and don't know how she got it. From the front desk at HK? From Cascadas? Maybe saw it when I was checking in at HK using my VIP card?

This worries me a bit. Glad I don't use my normal email address.Either you were very drunk and you don't remember giving your email to a girl or you registered your email with HK maybe that's where she got it from.

SportMongr
03-31-15, 22:50
I do not normally take HK chicas, just not worth it. But if I recall they were ok with 70-80 $ FS 30 min or 800-900 pesos. Can any frequent fliers share if the Hk ladies have adjusted to 15 p to 1 $, I know the SG just take the standard rate. Hope the hk's do too. If not. . that's complete BS with the locals paying their usual +- 50 peso rate.

SportMongr
04-01-15, 04:33
I do not normally take HK chicas, just not worth it. But if I recall they were ok with 70-80 $ FS 30 min or 800-900 pesos. Can any frequent fliers share if the Hk ladies have adjusted to 15 p to 1 $, I know the SG just take the standard rate. Hope the hk's do too. If not. . that's complete BS with the locals paying their usual +- 50 peso rate.I meant to say the locals pay = 40-50 $ or 500 pesos in HK. If the chicas are using a 14-15 to 1 $ rate. And being currency hu'ors they expect 1000-1200 pesos. Last year I know they were more than ok with 800-900 pesos. On pure principal that upsets me. The hu'ors going to spread legs for 500 for Jose Cuervo but double the price for Jack the. If that is true. Motion to monger boycott. LOL.

Jackie888
04-01-15, 04:51
I meant to say the locals pay = 40-50 $ or 500 pesos in HK. If the chicas are using a 14-15 to 1 $ rate. And being currency hu'ors they expect 1000-1200 pesos. Last year I know they were more than ok with 800-900 pesos. On pure principal that upsets me. The hu'ors going to spread legs for 500 for Jose Cuervo but double the price for Jack the. If that is true. Motion to monger boycott. LOL.A couple of them have adjusted 14:1. But it seems like the Club girls have formed a Cartel to try and push pricing up. This is very recent and probably due to the Spring Break increase in guys.

I suspect that in a couple of weeks when the college guys go home or go broke, pricing will correct itself. The competition is too fierce and the cartel will crack. They'll comeback down to 800.

One day we'll look back and call it the 2015 Chica Bubble.

SportMongr
04-01-15, 07:32
Thanks Jackie for info, headed tomorrow. It's funny because my friends and I use to surf baja and party in Ensenada. The "Paris" strip club. The ladies there charge around $90 - 120. Based on looks and negocios. My bud still goes says 1000 pesos is happily accepted. It's a joke Tijuana is now on par with a legit vacation spot. I guess the ladies would have to band. To make that work. Looks like beers at HK and shopping else where for me. If I was Asian I would be even more pissed. LOL I wonder what they are being fleeced for now. Actually I would be sad to hear.

Jackie888
04-01-15, 15:56
Thanks Jackie for info, headed tomorrow. It's funny because my friends and I use to surf baja and party in Ensenada. The "Paris" strip club. The ladies there charge around $90 - 120. Based on looks and negocios. My bud still goes says 1000 pesos is happily accepted. It's a joke Tijuana is now on par with a legit vacation spot. I guess the ladies would have to band. To make that work. Looks like beers at HK and shopping else where for me. If I was Asian I would be even more pissed. LOL I wonder what they are being fleeced for now. Actually I would be sad to hear.Surf and party Ensenada? Don't be surprise if I run into you in the lineups one of these days. We'll have morenthings to talk about than the tide. About around January, the SG banded together to do the same. Push pricing up. But they cracked after 3-4 weeks. It only takes one or two to break with the standard price for the cartel to crack.

BTW this Asian do feel fleeced. But only momentarily as I find new treasures in the alley.

RickyVee
04-02-15, 06:19
Was in there last Thursday. Checked scene for a while a few stunners walking around sat with a few beers and cigars as usual about a 6 comes up to me lap dances me for a while good dick rub. Immediately waiters all over me to buy the chick a drink she wants to go upstairs she says 80 I laugh and say too high then she says 60 was not really into her but she was sweet. Waiter comes back trying to push flowers and more drinks I say no as she does as well. Now keep in kind these broads can smell a simp or mark a mile away. The Idea is to give off an aloof vibe. Remember guys women are women weather she is secretary or a stripper keep it playa always you are the prize not them. Everybody needs to stop paying these women more than 80 period. You are fucking the game up for everybody else by paying more. The MX peso is in free fall the Mexican bank is propping up the peso some FX analysts predict that it fall to 17 by years end. As a result inflation is occurring that is why these girls are quoting high prices. FROM Now on everybody Pay in Pesos no more dollars. That is the only way to combat this. A 200 peso note which can be considered a US 20 is roughly worth about 13.5 to 13.90 us dollars given your exchange rate. With that being said do not buy drinks give tips unless they dance really well and deserve it. These broads are becoming way too lazy and spoiled. Constantly on there cell phones texting if most of us did that at our jobs we would be fired. This club is getting over on all of us if we allow them to. Remember as the consumer we vote with our pocket book. I have the evolution some of us vets can remember when Chicago was what HK was today and Adelitas. HK uses to be what tropical bar is now. Eventually HK will suffer the same fate as the above mentioned.

Be safe and keep it playa.

SportMongr
04-02-15, 19:44
Immediately waiters all over me to buy the chick a drink she wants to go upstairs she says 80 I laugh and say too high then she says 60 was not really into her but she was sweet. Waiter comes back trying to push flowers and more drinks I say no as she does as well. Now keep in kind these broads can smell a simp or mark a mile away. The Idea is to give off an aloof vibe. Remember guys women are women weather she is secretary or a stripper keep it playa always you are the prize not them. Everybody needs to stop paying these women more than 80 period. You are fucking the game up for everybody else by paying more. FROM Now on everybody Pay in Pesos no more dollars. That is the only way to combat this. A 200 peso note which can be considered a US 20 is roughly worth about 13.5 to 13.90 us dollars given your exchange rate. With that being said do not buy drinks give tips unless they dance really well and deserve it. These broads are becoming way too lazy and spoiled.

Be safe and keep it playa.This post needs to be re-posted every week. If you are a newbie, you are only excused once. If you are a trust fund baby. You are never excused. Stop being stupid you are hurting your self and us "working class slaves" - more $ only leads to the ladies higher standard of living and less desperation. This is why they are in the bar. Ruin that. And All our fun goes out the window.

HorseTrader
04-03-15, 03:15
...Everybody needs to stop paying these women more than 80 period. You are fucking the game up for everybody else by paying more.....A 200 peso note which can be considered a US 20 is roughly worth about 13.5 to 13.90 us dollars given your exchange rate.


...If you are a newbie, you are only excused once. If you are a trust fund baby. You are never excused. Stop being stupid you are hurting your self and us "working class slaves"Very few people will like this post. I believe it to just states reality.

One of the most important part of this forum is that people share how much we pay for various services. We all understand standard pricing. I try very hard to pay no more than the standard rate, but I have to make some comments about these and other condesecending posts.

First, $80 may be the standard rate for a very good HK girl. I usually pay less, maybe $60 to $70. It's the law of supply and demand that controls the price, the few mongers that read this board can't screw it up for everybody. Sometime there is going to be something that really strikes your fancy and more than $80 will be paid. Period. That monger isn't going to care if it fucks up your game. My all time favorite HK girl was about 2 years ago. If I recall, we negotiated $70 in the bar, spent about 90 minutes in my Cascadas room, and I gave her a total of $100. If I ever see her again and she asks for $120, I'll try to get the price down but I will pay it if necessary. Period. I won't be able to afford something else that day, but it will be $120 well spent. I also won't care if it fucks up your game.

Second, many people have told stories about puta thinking 200 pesos is equivalent to $20. These girls are hookers, not idiots. If a girl asks for $70 and she agrees to 700 pesos, she knows it is a much lower price. That was negotiation, not stupidity.

Third, not everbody can afford the finest stuff available, get over it. I'd like a new Ferrari but I can't have it, I got over it. I drive a 2006 Ford and it does the job. Some of us can afford the hottest stuff in Tijuana, some of us can only afford the bottom rung junkie streetwalker. Some of us can't afford to drive to the border or to park at the JIB lot. We have to deal with it.

Fourth, these girls work for money. Many of them don't like the work, but they like the money. If better money is available to the best girls, more of the best girls may stay longer and more hot girls will appear. About 20 years ago the AMPs in the middle Atlantic states charged $160 for an hour with a 24 year old hottie. It's still the same thing: same price, same girls. Only problem is that she is now 44. Meanwhile, the AMP scene in a few other cities are still providing 20 something hotties, but the price is between $250 and $300. Why would a true Korean hottie work for a $100 tip in Maryland when she can get a $200 tip in Tampa? The numbers are much lower in Tijuana, but the same principles apply.

I will continue to try to get the best price from my favorite girls. If I can't afford it, I'll pass it by. If somebody else can afford it, good for him. Perhaps he worked his butt off since kindergarten and has the money to buy the best of everything. Or maybe his financial priorites put top-shelf puta on the top rung and he can't afford much else. And just maybe the girl makes him happy and she deserves whatever she makes.

RickyVee
04-03-15, 04:39
No disrespect to anybody on this forum. Money is an object, nothing more or less. It is about the principle of the matter. The whole point in mongering at these clubs is for a variety which is the spice of life. We are all tricks period, some just trick more dollars off then others. If you up your game by learning the customs and language you will have a better overall experience. In this day and age it still shocks me that most mongers are unable to see this correlation. Attraction is in the eye of the beholder and some are willing to pay more but that does not necessarily translate to a better sexual experience. I have dated / sexed with many women LTR's ONS working girls MILFS, Tall ones, short ones, hot ones, skinny one,s fat ones, you name it, I stabbed it. Sometimes the girl that is seemingly the least attractive you can end up having better sexual comparability with.

I think if you find a BG that tickles your fancy maybe you should see her outside of club. In fact it is a better overall deal to go the escort route on Mexico's Craigslist. It seems as though many want the holy grail the ultimate GFE in a BG. If you want that then I suggest you go to civilian club there are plenty of women in the Gaslamp in SD who fit that bill. The majority of us mongers just want to enjoy the atmosphere, have some drinks and laughs, stab some pussy and go home. It think some more than others need to calibrate expectations when it comes to these women. There is another gentleman posting in the AB forum about his heart being ripped out by a BG because she lied about her intentions with him. It is more a common tale then most would like to admit on these forums. This is not about the haves VS the have less, this is about a code of conduct that all of us need to abide by just like the girls have their code of conduct we should have ours. Paying more then $80 for 30 min is just ridiculous. If some of you are inclined to pay more then more power to you but all you do is make these girls think that there pussy is some how more valuable then the next's. Anybody who has done the Zona long enough knows there are some SG who look better / give better service than BG's and vice versa. There are no such things as 10's gentleman they only exist in the land of Unicorns and Leprechaun's. Everybody has flaws not just physical but emotional. Most of these girls have been abused sexually / mentally so and so forth usually their own Father's so they already have a low opinion of men in general and I don't care if you look like Luis Miguel or give her a million to blow you nothing or nobody will change that. Some mongers like to play captain save a hoe and think they can turn a hoe into a housewife / LTR girlfriend. It sounds cliche but it is very true. This forum should be treated as an objective insiders guide for the best possible and safest mongering experience in Mexico. There are rules to this shit and I see guys getting played like a cheap violin. There is too much cup-caking and fuckery going on with these girls I see in the clubs. That is not my style and that is not a sign of a true monger. I am not special if I can negotiate $60 then everybody else should be able to do the same. Ask yourself this question. When you shop for a car do you just pay the sales guy what the sticker price says? This is the same premise.

GolfSexRroll
04-03-15, 04:45
Very few people will like this post. I believe it to just states reality.

One of the most important part of this forum is that people share how much we pay for various services. We all understand standard pricing. I try very hard to pay no more than the standard rate, but I have to make some comments about these and other condesecending posts.

First, $80 may be the standard rate for a very good HK girl. I usually pay less, maybe $60 to $70. It's the law of supply and demand that controls the price, the few mongers that read this board can't screw it up for everybody. Sometime there is going to be something that really strikes your fancy and more than $80 will be paid. Period. That monger isn't going to care if it fucks up your game. My all time favorite HK girl was about 2 years ago. If I recall, we negotiated $70 in the bar, spent about 90 minutes in my Cascadas room, and I gave her a total of $100. If I ever see her again and she asks for $120, I'll try to get the price down but I will pay it if necessary. Period. I won't be able to afford something else that day, but it will be $120 well spent. I also won't care if it fucks up your game.

Second, many people have told stories about puta thinking 200 pesos is equivalent to $20. These girls are hookers, not idiots. If a girl asks for $70 and she agrees to 700 pesos, she knows it is a much lower price. That was negotiation, not stupidity.

Third, not everbody can afford the finest stuff available, get over it. I'd like a new Ferrari but I can't have it, I got over it. I drive a 2006 Ford and it does the job. Some of us can afford the hottest stuff in Tijuana, some of us can only afford the bottom rung junkie streetwalker. Some of us can't afford to drive to the border or to park at the JIB lot. We have to deal with it.

Fourth, these girls work for money. Many of them don't like the work, but they like the money. If better money is available to the best girls, more of the best girls may stay longer and more hot girls will appear. About 20 years ago the AMPs in the middle Atlantic states charged $160 for an hour with a 24 year old hottie. It's still the same thing: same price, same girls. Only problem is that she is now 44. Meanwhile, the AMP scene in a few other cities are still providing 20 something hotties, but the price is between $250 and $300. Why would a true Korean hottie work for a $100 tip in Maryland when she can get a $200 tip in Tampa? The numbers are much lower in Tijuana, but the same principles apply.

I will continue to try to get the best price from my favorite girls. If I can't afford it, I'll pass it by. If somebody else can afford it, good for him. Perhaps he worked his butt off since kindergarten and has the money to buy the best of everything. Or maybe his financial priorites put top-shelf puta on the top rung and he can't afford much else. And just maybe the girl makes him happy and she deserves whatever she makes.That is the way it is! If you want it / you pay for it! I NEGOTIATE. I am "local". I am a "repeater". EVERYONE gets a different rate!

ScatManDoo
04-03-15, 07:38
I tend to pay less in fees to Tijuana chicas than most mongers. But I attribute that to discipline and fundamental negotiation tactics (since my looks work against me). I readily share this information on these hooker boards.

You could look back several years (on the boards where I've been participating on for a long time) and not find any posts of mine where I'm criticizing other mongers for paying more. I really don't care what others pay. And I don't believe that other mongers paying higher rates significantly affects my ability to get a chica I want at a price I'm willing to pay.

There will always be some chicas that won't go arriba for the paltry fees I'm willing to pay. Fortunately there always be enough I find desirable that will.

SportMongr
04-03-15, 11:43
Very few people will like this post. I believe it to just states reality.

One of the most important part of this forum is that people share how much we pay for various services. We all understand standard pricing. I try very hard to pay no more than the standard rate, but I have to make some comments about these and other condesecending posts.

First, $80 may be the standard rate for a very good HK girl. I usually pay less, maybe $60 to $70. It's the law of supply and demand that controls the price, the few mongers that read this board can't screw it up for everybody. Sometime there is going to be something that really strikes your fancy and more than $80 will be paid. Period. That monger isn't going to care if it fucks up your game. My all time favorite HK girl was about 2 years ago. If I recall, we negotiated $70 in the bar, spent about 90 minutes in my Cascadas room, and I gave her a total of $100. If I ever see her again and she asks for $120, I'll try to get the price down but I will pay it if necessary. Period. I won't be able to afford something else that day, but it will be $120 well spent. I also won't care if it fucks up your game.

Second, many people have told stories about puta thinking 200 pesos is equivalent to $20. These girls are hookers, not idiots. If a girl asks for $70 and she agrees to 700 pesos, she knows it is a much lower price. That was negotiation, not stupidity.

Third, not everbody can afford the finest stuff available, get over it. I'd like a new Ferrari but I can't have it, I got over it. I drive a 2006 Ford and it does the job. Some of us can afford the hottest stuff in Tijuana, some of us can only afford the bottom rung junkie streetwalker. Some of us can't afford to drive to the border or to park at the JIB lot. We have to deal with it.

Fourth, these girls work for money. Many of them don't like the work, but they like the money. If better money is available to the best girls, more of the best girls may stay longer and more hot girls will appear. About 20 years ago the AMPs in the middle Atlantic states charged $160 for an hour with a 24 year old hottie. It's still the same thing: same price, same girls. Only problem is that she is now 44. Meanwhile, the AMP scene in a few other cities are still providing 20 something hotties, but the price is between $250 and $300. Why would a true Korean hottie work for a $100 tip in Maryland when she can get a $200 tip in Tampa? The numbers are much lower in Tijuana, but the same principles apply.

I will continue to try to get the best price from my favorite girls. If I can't afford it, I'll pass it by. If somebody else can afford it, good for him. Perhaps he worked his butt off since kindergarten and has the money to buy the best of everything. Or maybe his financial priorites put top-shelf puta on the top rung and he can't afford much else. And just maybe the girl makes him happy and she deserves whatever she makes.I think your comments are missing the point a bit. Yes obviously hooker bars are like an auction. Top prizes to top bidders. But it does not have to be that way. It's that way because most men get pushed over by a big rack and a smile. These "sack up" posts are aimed at stopping softies from over-paying. It's bad for the game. Plain and simple. And if you are over paying you have the right to feel insulted by these posts. Especially if your the type of guy who walks into a mc Donald's and over pays for a Big Mac just because the lady told you it was $20. We are not talking about extra charity to a worker you like or who one that goes above and beyond. Most people can afford to overpay. Amen to the guys with a sack and who go by the old adage "If she digs me she will agree" " its's up to me".

Gsil247
04-13-15, 05:57
Another option to help with your hot tub fantasy is to go with one of the escort services and get a nice jacuzzi room at Motel Premier.

Check out "Cum In Tijuana" or "mexico lindo bar" escort service.

I have used several times over the years and not a bad option if your looking for something different than the bar/street scene.You sir are my new friend. Much appreciated. I'm already planning on this. Thanks again. Hopefully the escort girls get health check ups like the the girls in HK.

Drew996
04-14-15, 01:43
OK, here's a question to the Vets of HK.

For the Shave cream show, the absolute standard is Carolina. She's always been friendly / flirty on the stage and chats me up while I'm sending the dollars her way. Just last week on Thursday night, I had a great time with Italia and her partner Sophie? Italia was a real cutie and speaks some English. I do the best I can but of course, she was interested in my brother. I tried to convince him to head up but he's currently in a relationship so he declines.

Anyone ever take a Shave cream chica upstairs? Are they as friendly as they appear on stage? Friendly and filthy at the same time? They get finger-banged a lot but I figured the shaving cream sterilizes everything.

Jackie888
04-14-15, 02:03
OK, here's a question to the Vets of HK.

For the Shave cream show, the absolute standard is Carolina. She's always been friendly / flirty on the stage and chats me up while I'm sending the dollars her way. Just last week on Thursday night, I had a great time with Italia and her partner Sophie? Italia was a real cutie and speaks some English. I do the best I can but of course, she was interested in my brother. I tried to convince him to head up but he's currently in a relationship so he declines.

Anyone ever take a Shave cream chica upstairs? Are they as friendly as they appear on stage? Friendly and filthy at the same time? They get finger-banged a lot but I figured the shaving cream sterilizes everything.Dear Homewrecker,

I got a BBJ from one during a lap dance. Didn't even expected it. We were just kissing and the next thing I knew.

Anyways, IMO the shaving cream girls are the most uninhibited girls especially after they bathe and get comfortable. So yeah, they are freaks. I think the key is that you have to show them you're clean (shower) before they get freaky on you.

LaterGreen
04-21-15, 06:50
Thanks to everyone for so much useful information. I have read lots and learned lots, so important before traveling!

So I plan on staying a few nights at Cascadas, getting a nice room. I'm already fantasizing about the bar girls I plan to bring up for lots of quickies, and the TLN I plan to have with the prettiest two SG or CL chicas I can find.

But first a practical question I haven't seen raised before: WIFI.

I saw an older review (on another site) that said WiFi at Cascadas was crap. Is this still true? Anyone got a firsthand account?

WiFi is very important to me since I need it for work (this will be a "working vacation" If the WiFi at Cascadas sucks, what's the closest place I can get good internet? Doesn't have to be free, I don't mind paying for what I use.

TIA for answering a Q out of the blue from a noob!

HorseTrader
04-21-15, 22:15
I saw an older review (on another site) that said WiFi at Cascadas was crap. Is this still true? Anyone got a firsthand account?I've only used Cascadas WiFi with my smartphone when I can't get a US cell for data. I'm too cheap to pay for the Mexican data plan, but can usually reach a US cell from the upper floors of Cascadas.

Both Cascadas WiFi connection and data rates have been spotty. Sometimes works fine. Sometimes it connects but is slow. Sometimes it won't even connect. I have not done well with Mexican WiFi. Even Ticuan (which is quite nice) has crappy WiFi. Haven't tried either WiFi since about September; maybe it is better now. There has to be good WiFi somewhere, I just haven't found it.

Beware of US export control laws when you bring your work computer into Mexico. You may have data on your computer which is not allowed to leave the US without proper export authorization. I can never fully leave my job and can't bring a work computer into Mexico, so I'm forced to come back to the US for a couple of hours ever couple of days.

LaterGreen
04-22-15, 06:06
Thanks for the info.

With respect to WiFi, I see ads for Cibercafé within a few blocks of HK, I can use those.


Beware of US export control laws when you bring your work computer into Mexico. You may have data on your computer which is not allowed to leave the US without proper export authorization. I can never fully leave my job and can't bring a work computer into Mexico, so I'm forced to come back to the US for a couple of hours ever couple of days.Wait. What? Are you seriously saying I can't bring my laptop to Mexico? It's not like I have the secret plans for the nukes, I have email and video games.

GolfSexRroll
04-22-15, 17:07
I've only used Cascadas WiFi with my smartphone when I can't get a US cell for data. I'm too cheap to pay for the Mexican data plan, but can usually reach a US cell from the upper floors of Cascadas.

Both Cascadas WiFi connection and data rates have been spotty. Sometimes works fine. Sometimes it connects but is slow. Sometimes it won't even connect. I have not done well with Mexican WiFi. Even Ticuan (which is quite nice) has crappy WiFi. Haven't tried either WiFi since about September; maybe it is better now. There has to be good WiFi somewhere, I just haven't found it.

Beware of US export control laws when you bring your work computer into Mexico. You may have data on your computer which is not allowed to leave the US without proper export authorization. I can never fully leave my job and can't bring a work computer into Mexico, so I'm forced to come back to the US for a couple of hours ever couple of days.Cell reception can be spotty at Cascada. Yes it is better on the top floors, but I have found it better on the street in FRONT of Cascada most of the times. I have ATT and it will go on and off, sometimes switching to Telcel or Movistar, which is ok for my texts (I have a int plan for texts) but will cut any talk connections. Also I can't call out in the Movistae or telcel provider (cell). Also very low "bars" on the ATT tower.

Member #4450
04-22-15, 19:12
Cell reception can be spotty at Cascada. Yes it is better on the top floors, but I have found it better on the street in FRONT of Cascada most of the times. I have ATT and it will go on and off, sometimes switching to Telcel or Movistar, which is ok for my texts (I have a int plan for texts) but will cut any talk connections. Also I can't call out in the Movistae or telcel provider (cell). Also very low "bars" on the ATT tower.Same here I have International plan but it stops working after crossing the border. Honestly I don't understand cel plans I just have an international plan with Virgin Mobile, they told me they don't have a plan to call inside Mexico I think I need to get a different company like Verizon with roaming capabilities.

I don't have a problem texting or calling the girls from Cali but not in Tijuana.

Any ideas Looking for a basic cheapo plan. Do I need to buy a Mexican phone too? Thanks

Magic Rancher
04-22-15, 21:22
My solution was to use my old iPhone and swap out the chip with a Telcel Sim card. These Telcel chips are sold for about $10 in most Oxxo stores. Then simply buy credit as needed.


Same here I have International plan but it stops working after crossing the border. Honestly I don't understand cel plans I just have an international plan with Virgin Mobile, they told me they don't have a plan to call inside Mexico I think I need to get a different company like Verizon with roaming capabilities.

I don't have a problem texting or calling the girls from Cali but not in Tijuana.

Any ideas Looking for a basic cheapo plan. Do I need to buy a Mexican phone too? Thanks

HorseTrader
04-22-15, 21:27
Wait. What? Are you seriously saying I can't bring my laptop to Mexico? It's not like I have the secret plans for the nukes, I have email and video games.Its not the computer or games, the concern is any American data that is not publically available. Even if your company developed that data at their own expense, it is controlled by US export control laws. Even if you don't plan on opening the files with the data.

This is a royal pain in the neck for me.

The Mexicans won't care it you bring that computer into Mexico.

ClamSlammer
04-23-15, 03:03
I think T-Mobile has plans that include international data roaming for free. Also, most T-Mobile phones have WiFi calling so as long as you are on WiFi anywhere in the world you would receive calls and texts just as if you are in the USA.

LaterGreen
04-23-15, 17:31
Its not the computer or games, the concern is any American data that is not publically available. Even if your company developed that data at their own expense, it is controlled by US export control laws. Even if you don't plan on opening the files with the data.

This is a royal pain in the neck for me.This would be a potential deal-breaker for me:

OK. So. What's the process like?

You get to the border, you have your luggage and your laptop bag. What does the US border official say?

Captain Solo
04-23-15, 18:49
Millions people travel with lap tops every year. Not all of them arrested by CBP.

You are not supposed to take any secret or Top Secret docs or data home anyway, so they should not be in your lap tops. The worst risks are pornographic pictures or videos that may appear to have children. If tipped off, CBP may seize the lap tops and have agents search the disk contents.

I would not worry too much about it. If you do, rent a lock box at an US airport and store it there, or just ship the laptop home before hitting Mexico.


This would be a potential deal-breaker for me:

OK. So. What's the process like?

You get to the border, you have your luggage and your laptop bag. What does the US border official say?

HorseTrader
04-23-15, 18:58
This would be a potential deal-breaker for me:

OK. So. What's the process like?

You get to the border, you have your luggage and your laptop bag. What does the US border official say?When I travel on true business internationally, I have proper export licenses, but I've never been asked to produce it. When in Tijuana I don't carry a laptop. So I really can't answer your question.

LaterGreen
04-23-15, 22:23
A quick web search brings back mainstream pages (Yahoo answers, etc) that all say yes you can bring your laptop to Mexico, don't have on it secret plans or pornography. Having neither, I figure I'm safe. Also they say don't bring like 10 unless you want to pay a tax or something but I'm not worried about that either with my one crappy & old laptop.

HorseTrader
04-24-15, 01:12
You are not supposed to take any secret or Top Secret docs or data home anyway, so they should not be in your lap tops....I don't want to comment more since this is way off topic. But, the restrictions go way beyond data that is confidential, secret, or top secret.

If anyone is interested, please send me a PM.

Phordphan
04-24-15, 08:11
This would be a potential deal-breaker for me:

OK. So. What's the process like?

You get to the border, you have your luggage and your laptop bag. What does the US border official say?They don't say anything. They ask if you have anything to declare, what you were doing in Mexico, blah, blah, just to see if you appear nervous or show any tell-tale signs of being someone who might require further questioning.

After you pass you'll put your bags into the x-ray machine, pick them up at the other end, and leave.

Three possibilities exist. One is that you walk out the door. This is the most likely. One is that, for whatever reason, the agent sends you to secondary inspection. Another is that they nab you after the x-ray machine and send you to secondary. Both two and three are rare, but they do happen.

At this point they'll poke around in your luggage and ask a few questions. They have the right to do so, based upon numerous Supreme Court decisions. If they choose to, they can turn on your notebook and do some cursory poking around. If they find something suspicious they can probe deeper, and that's a whole other discussion.

The odds of this happening to you are very small. If you don't have anything objectionable on your notebook then there is nothing to get excited about. The talk about certain restricted information is generally, but certainly not entirely, related to certain kinds of software that are restricted from export.

MS Clive
04-24-15, 08:45
Some detailed replies to some questions below:

1) US Cellphone in Mexico:

- I use T-mobile in mexico. Allows international roaming with data on my existing basic / default plan which is for a fairly nominal rate (can't remember how much but it is reasonable).

- If I plan on staying for more than 2 days I call them and get additional data + minutes for something like $15 for the month.

- Phone behaves as if your in USA. I am not sure what caller ID area code looks like when I call my friends in USA. Otherwise the behavior of the phone is as if the phone is in US itself.

- Data speed is OK and decent for GPS, google searches and basic internet use Not good enough for youtube video streaming etc.

- SMS does not work as well (comes and goes) but Whatsapp works.

- Skype does not work (Mexico government blocks VOIP services). I know this can be circumvented using a VPN on a laptop but I digress.

2) Bringing laptop in Mexico:

- It is definitely OK. Never had an issue with this on multiple trips.

- I rarely enter Mexico without a laptop and have been there 15 times or so in past 4 years.

- I bring laptop and iPad as well. With multiple devices it did not occur to me that it would be a problem.

- Border customs are looking for guns, troublemakers, drug traffickers, etc. They are not thugs at all unlike those at other international borders (E. G. Guatemala).

- Bigger concern would be getting robbed once you are in Mexico or late at night as you are walking from / towards the border. So keep electronics in your bags at all times. Under dress a bit.

Hope this helped.

UltraHappy
04-25-15, 00:21
I for one wouldn't want any any customs officials rummaging around my laptop, having access to my tax information, my financial information, and private medical information (even though I have nothing to hide, some of my stuff is just plain private and the government shouldn't be snooping around in my stuff anymore than they should be reading my private love letters). That's why all the data on my laptop is double-encrypted.

Besides the encryption that your operating system already offers, there is open source encryption software readily available that allows one to quite easily encrypt any sensitive data on one's laptop. If forced to provide a password, one can reveal the dummy password which only reveals innocuous information and leaves the more sensitive information inaccessible. Only with the second "hidden" password can one access the more sensitive encrypted information. The mathematics of it are such that no one can determine whether a second "hidden" password even exists. Truecrypt or its successor Veracrypt are free, open-source multi-platform programs for accomplishing this and yes, teams of security experts have even recently conducted security audits showing no major issues with using these programs. Most of the minor issues identified in the recent security audit have already been addressed by Veracrypt.

If you aren't already encrypting your shit, you should be -- not only to keep snooping government officials out of your business but what happens if Pedro steals your laptop in Tijuana? Do you really want Pedro to be able to access all your sensitive shit? Encrypt your shit already!

Another obvious option for those not wishing to cross the border with their sensitive data is to store your sensitive data in the Cloud and download / upload on the other side of the border. For those concerned about your cloud service being hacked, you can obviously address this concern by uploading only encrypted data if desired.

Ok, enough off-topic stuff said here. Time to get back to what this thread was originally intended for -- reports about Hong Kong Club adventures.

ClamSlammer
04-25-15, 00:30
I for one wouldn't want any any customs officials rummaging around my laptop, having access to my tax information, my financial information, and private medical information (even though I have nothing to hide, some of my stuff is just plain private and the government shouldn't be snooping around in my stuff anymore than they should be reading my private love letters). That's why all the data on my laptop is double-encrypted.

Besides the encryption that your operating system already offers, there is open source encryption software readily available that allows one to quite easily encrypt any sensitive data on one's laptop. If forced to provide a password, one can reveal the dummy password which only reveals innocuous information and leaves the more sensitive information inaccessible. Only with the second "hidden" password can one access the more sensitive encrypted information. The mathematics of it are such that no one can determine whether a second "hidden" password even exists. Truecrypt or its successor Veracrypt are free, open-source multi-platform programs for accomplishing this and yes, teams of security experts have even recently conducted security audits showing no major issues with using these programs. Most of the minor issues identified in the recent security audit have already been addressed by Veracrypt.

If you aren't already encrypting your shit, you should be -- not only to keep snooping government officials out of your business but what happens if Pedro steals your laptop in Tijuana? Do you really want Pedro to be able to access all your sensitive shit? Encrypt your shit already!

Another obvious option for those not wishing to cross the border with their sensitive data is to store your sensitive data in the Cloud and download / upload on the other side of the border. For those concerned about your cloud service being hacked, you can obviously address this concern by uploading only encrypted data if desired.

Ok, enough off-topic stuff said here. Time to get back to what this thread was originally intended for -- reports about Hong Kong Club adventures.You can encrypt your shit all you want but if a Customs official orders you to decrypt it then you must or face serious consequences. You basically lose half your Constitutional rights when passing through a port of entry.

UltraHappy
04-25-15, 00:52
You can encrypt your shit all you want but if a Customs official orders you to decrypt it then you must or face serious consequences. You basically lose half your Constitutional rights when passing through a port of entry.Actually, there is federal court precedent on both sides of this issue, with some courts holding that being forced to supply a decryption password is tantamount to self-incrimination in violation of your 5th amendment to remain silent.

In any case, whether or not they can legally force you to decrypt, I would encourage you to read what I wrote about being able to supply a "dummy" password that does decrypt your non-sensitive shit (but doesn't decrypt your sensitive shit).

Here is some documentation describing this hidden container concept: https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Hidden%20Volume.

Essentially, it protects you from the exact scenario you are describing ClamSlammer. If you are "forced" to provide your decryption password, you can still do that without compromising any of your sensitive data. Seriously, click on that link and read about it.

Here's another explanation of the concept (this one even uses cartoons!) http://www.howtogeek.com/109210/the-htg-guide-to-hiding-your-data-in-a-truecrypt-hidden-volume/.

SportMongr
04-25-15, 03:03
Hey boxing fans and HK locals? I have a feeling they are going to show the epic fight next Saturday. I wonder if there would even be standing room if you did not get in a stake out space before 6 pm or so. Any thoughts of better places than HK to catch the fight in the zona? Anyone up for a ISG fight night / chore fest? Thanks.

Captain Solo
04-25-15, 05:33
Unless you are selling or giving something to foreigners in forbidden countries, why would you need export licenses?

What kinds of items you need to have export license?

How long did it take to to obtain the license?


When I travel on true business internationally, I have proper export licenses, but I've never been asked to produce it. When in Tijuana I don't carry a laptop. So I really can't answer your question.

ClamSlammer
04-25-15, 05:54
Actually, there is federal court precedent on both sides of this issue, with some courts holding that being forced to supply a decryption password is tantamount to self-incrimination in violation of your 5th amendment to remain silent.

In any case, whether or not they can legally force you to decrypt, I would encourage you to read what I wrote about being able to supply a "dummy" password that does decrypt your non-sensitive shit (but doesn't decrypt your sensitive shit).

Here is some documentation describing this hidden container concept: https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Hidden%20Volume.

Essentially, it protects you from the exact scenario you are describing ClamSlammer. If you are "forced" to provide your decryption password, you can still do that without compromising any of your sensitive data. Seriously, click on that link and read about it.

Here's another explanation of the concept (this one even uses cartoons!) http://www.howtogeek.com/109210/the-htg-guide-to-hiding-your-data-in-a-truecrypt-hidden-volume/.Over the past few years I've crossed countless times with multiple laptops and phones. Only once was I forced to provide a password to unlock my phone and the officer looked through it briefly.

WanderingMan
04-26-15, 04:05
Hey boxing fans and HK locals? I have a feeling they are going to show the epic fight next Saturday. I wonder if there would even be standing room if you did not get in a stake out space before 6 pm or so. Any thoughts of better places than HK to catch the fight in the zona? Anyone up for a ISG fight night / chore fest? Thanks.I was thinking the same thing. They have to show that fight on the big screen there. Seems like they wouldn't have a choice about it. Not sure if anyone will be able to even stand in the front section of the bar. The good news for the bar is it will be packed even if the girls aren't all that busy.

HorseTrader
04-26-15, 15:53
Unless you are selling or giving something to foreigners in forbidden countries, why would you need export licenses?

What kinds of items you need to have export license?

How long did it take to to obtain the license?It's more than just the forbidden countries like North Korea, it's any non-US country including our good friends Canada, Mexico, and the UK. Just bringing the item into a foreign country is considered an export; you don't have to leave it in that country to be an export.

I work as a consultant to a number of companies. The biggest concerns are with companies that have some sort of technical products such as oil, engineering, and physics. No problem when I worked with a company in the fashion industry. I suspect that anything related to DoD is the tightest of all (even if it isn't classified information). If your laptop contains information such as technical reports or drawings then you need to consider the export control laws. There is a very large category of information that is "NLR" - No License Required.

I don't personally get my licenses, my customers (American companies) have their teams of lawyers to do that. Think months to get the licenses.

As others have pointed out, the chances of getting caught are very small. But getting caught means you will lose your job and maybe worse. This is why I simply don't bring my business laptop into Mexico, even though it is a royal pain in the ass to come back to USA ever couple days.

Sorry, too much written. But every American international traveler needs to be aware of this stuff.

UltraHappy
04-26-15, 16:36
You're making way too big a deal out of the export control law stuff. Can we please give this export control stuff a rest?

1) The likelihood that anyone has any nonbusiness information or devices on them that is subject to export control is extremely small. So, for those traveling without their business laptop, this export control law stuff can pretty much be safely ignored.

2) If you are traveling with your company laptop and your company has entrusted you with export-controlled information, then they very likely have forced you to undergo their annual control training to sensitize you to what you can and can't take across the border without an export control license. So, if you have export controlled information, then you should know already know it. And if the company has entrusted you with export-controlled information and has NOT done their job to sensitize you to your duties to comply with export control laws, then I still wouldn't worry about this, because realistically, the agencies that enforce this stuff are going to go after your company, not you personally. It simply doesn't make sense for the agencies to prosecute dumb shit individuals for minor export violations (for lots of reasons that I won't go into here because nobody here gives a shit).

3) For those of you reading this forum and have no idea what the fuck this export law shit is all about, you can pretty much ignore all this export shit and go back to dreaming about your favorite ladies and the nice memories you will make with them soon.

So please give it a rest with this export control stuff. No one really cares (except for those people who should care but they already know what they have to do because they are forced to go to company training on this stuff).

If you are a company exporting technical information or goods outside of the USA, then you should not be getting your export control regulation advice from Hong Kong Club thread on ISG. Go seek professional legal advice. The Hong Kong club thread is for information about the Hong Kong club and its girls -- not export control regulation compliance.

Captain Solo
04-26-15, 18:56
HorseTrader did a good job warning the bros crossing borders with technical info in their lap tops or luggage, even to friendly countries like Canada and Mexico.

I know a few people who violated Export Controls laws and / or ITAR, ended up with 10 to 12 years in federal prison. The list of controlled products is long and defined in complex technical terms. It takes top technical and legal experts to interpret. Some of the products, old and obsolete for 50 years, are still subjected to export control and requiring licenses even to export to friendly countries.

To be able to fully enjoy the fine HK chicas without worries, the bros should avoid any probability of being targeted and perhaps wrongly prosecuted for violations. It may be a good idea to leave the laptops in the US or just ship them home before crossing borders. If the Fed targets someone, they will find something to prosecute.


It's more than just the forbidden countries like North Korea, it's any non-US country including our good friends Canada, Mexico, and the UK. Just bringing the item into a foreign country is considered an export; you don't have to leave it in that country to be an export.

I work as a consultant to a number of companies. The biggest concerns are with companies that have some sort of technical products such as oil, engineering, and physics. No problem when I worked with a company in the fashion industry. I suspect that anything related to DoD is the tightest of all (even if it isn't classified information). If your laptop contains information such as technical reports or drawings then you need to consider the export control laws. There is a very large category of information that is "NLR" - No License Required.

Sorry, too much written. But every American international traveler needs to be aware of this stuff.

TomJackin
04-26-15, 20:55
You're making way too big a deal out of the export control law stuff. Can we please give this export control stuff a rest?

So, you had to add to the nonsense?

SportMongr
04-27-15, 08:27
I was thinking the same thing. They have to show that fight on the big screen there. Seems like they wouldn't have a choice about it. Not sure if anyone will be able to even stand in the front section of the bar. The good news for the bar is it will be packed even if the girls aren't all that busy.Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.

Phordphan
04-27-15, 17:40
Hey boxing fans and HK locals? I have a feeling they are going to show the epic fight next Saturday. I wonder if there would even be standing room if you did not get in a stake out space before 6 pm or so. Any thoughts of better places than HK to catch the fight in the zona? Anyone up for a ISG fight night / chore fest? Thanks.


I was thinking the same thing. They have to show that fight on the big screen there. Seems like they wouldn't have a choice about it. Not sure if anyone will be able to even stand in the front section of the bar. The good news for the bar is it will be packed even if the girls aren't all that busy.


Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.The fight will be broadcast for free in Mexico, so loads of places will show it.

Won't walk around Tijuana on a Saturday night? OMG.

There will be many places showing it. If one can muster the testicular fortitude to make it up to Revu, I'm sure you'll find many places. I suspect the bar in the Hotel Nelson will show it. You can wedge yourself into either of the Calientes on Revu (near Caesar, or near Tijuana Tilly's) where it will be showing in the sports book. There's a hole in the wall, east side of Revu, south of Copeo, adjacent to the parking garage driveway that has a big screen and inexpensive beer. Ticuan's bar will show it, I have no doubt. For the even braver souls, take a taxi to Plaza Rio. La Revancha, across the street, same complex as Shots Factory, has a big screen. Someplace in Plaza Zapato will have it, too.

Honestly, guys. Get out of the zona occasionally.

GolfSexRroll
04-27-15, 18:49
The fight will be broadcast for free in Mexico, so loads of places will show it.

Won't walk around Tijuana on a Saturday night? OMG.

There will be many places showing it. If one can muster the testicular fortitude to make it up to Revu, I'm sure you'll find many places. I suspect the bar in the Hotel Nelson will show it. You can wedge yourself into either of the Calientes on Revu (near Caesar, or near Tijuana Tilly's) where it will be showing in the sports book. There's a hole in the wall, east side of Revu, south of Copeo, adjacent to the parking garage driveway that has a big screen and inexpensive beer. Ticuan's bar will show it, I have no doubt. For the even braver souls, take a taxi to Plaza Rio. La Revancha, across the street, same complex as Shots Factory, has a big screen. Someplace in Plaza Zapato will have it, too.

Honestly, guys. Get out of the zona occasionally.Are you kidding me. Leave the safe confines of the ZONA to go. GOD FORBID on the mean streets of Tijuana. I would just SHIT MY PANTS!

Member #4450
04-27-15, 19:49
Are you kidding me. Leave the safe confines of the ZONA to go. GOD FORBID on the mean streets of Tijuana. I would just SHIT MY PANTS!Come to South LA hood and stay here for a few months you will turn into a man and Tijuana would look like Disneyland.
:)

Jackie888
04-27-15, 21:44
Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.The Zona is arguably the worst area of Tijuana. If you can walk around the Zona after dark, you could do it in the rest of Tijuana including Revolution. Notice the kids and old folks wandering around after dark.

Captain Solo
04-27-15, 22:25
As far as I know, the pussy block containing HK, Las Chevelas, Adelita. Have had very few crimes over the year due to large presence of policias, security cops, meseros, foot traffic, good lighting and security cameras. It appears to me as one of the safest area in Tijuana day or night.

In contrary, crimes seem to occur right at the periphery of this block, where mongers with money hang out and there are little presence of policias and security cameras. On Ninos between Coahuila and Calle 1, among the busy tacos stands at dinner time, I have seen 2 well-dressed guys knocked on their heads and robbed. They were lying on the ground, vomiting blood. The tacos guys called the cops and 4 showed up to do crime reports.

These robberies happened very quickly; workers and diners at the scene seemed unable to prevent or help.

I guess I have no need to go to Tijuana for sight seeing or to socialize with big, fat, lumpy chicas outside of the pussy block.


The Zona is arguably the worst area of Tijuana. If you can walk around the Zona after dark, you could do it in the rest of Tijuana including Revolution. Notice the kids and old folks wandering around after dark.

TomJackin
04-27-15, 22:53
Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.My understanding is that the Hotel Ticuan restaurant and bar are in full operation. Plenty of flat screens and I'm sure the hotel could use the business.

Jackie888
04-28-15, 01:06
Creative architecture added Another floor to HK towards the back. So now you have 4 floors to have fun on. The entry floor, the 2nd floor with a smaller stripper stage, a 3rd floor right above the 2nd floor that no one visits but has VIP lap dance booths. Now they openned another floor on top of the back bar. I don't know how many building code violations they violated, but they somehow openned their 4th floor. It has a low ceiling so I'm guessing there were couples only several feet above me humping away jn their hotel rooms. At least we now have a place to take girls to neck on a crowded weekend night. And if one likes public sex, one can try to sneak a girl up there on a weekday where the entire area is supposed to be closed up.

Member #4450
04-28-15, 01:24
The Zona is arguably the worst area of Tijuana. If you can walk around the Zona after dark, you could do it in the rest of Tijuana including Revolution. Notice the kids and old folks wandering around after dark.The Zona is arguably the worst area of Tijuana to get a sore or burning dick. What kids and old folks are you talking about Jackie LOL. Actually I always thought the zona was the safest because of the police presence and all the girls around.

Gsil247
04-28-15, 02:09
So I've been to HK a couple of times and it think I'm doing it wrong. I see these guys who are sitting with girls and the girls are on top of them or just hanging out. That last for more then the 2 minutes with my experience as the girls just said, let's go have sex. How do I get it to last that long? Should I approach the girls who are sitting / standing by themselves?

Maybe a stupid question, but do all the girls working at HK offer sex? Some of the girls on the polls where you first walk in (the one that have 2-4 girls), are so damn hot to me, I thought 'no way she's making this her living. She's too fine.'

Also, I don't speak Spanish but am Mexican, so everyone assumes I know the language, making it a little harder.

Captain Solo
04-28-15, 02:49
No spoken language is necessary in HK.

You can approach your favorite chicas, showing them 600 to 800 pesos while pointing up to the sky.

Your favorite chicas would quickly take your hand and lead you to the room for the best times of your life.


So I've been to HK a couple of times and it think I'm doing it wrong. I see these guys who are sitting with girls and the girls are on top of them or just hanging out. That last for more then the 2 minutes with my experience as the girls just said, let's go have sex. How do I get it to last that long? Should I approach the girls who are sitting / standing by themselves?

Maybe a stupid question, but do all the girls working at HK offer sex? Some of the girls on the polls where you first walk in (the one that have 2-4 girls), are so damn hot to me, I thought 'no way she's making this her living. She's too fine.'

Also, I don't speak Spanish but am Mexican, so everyone assumes I know the language, making it a little harder.

WanderingMan
04-28-15, 03:26
I have been to Hong Kong a couple of times with friends. Upstairs there are two types of rooms in the bar. The first is the very small ones where I see men take the dancers / working girls and come out shortly after entering. The second seems more private with mirrors and glass overlooking the pole dancers. Would one of you veterans explain those rooms please? Thanks.

HorseTrader
04-28-15, 04:41
So I've been to HK a couple of times and it think I'm doing it wrong. I see these guys who are sitting with girls and the girls are on top of them or just hanging out. That last for more then the 2 minutes with my experience as the girls just said, let's go have sex. How do I get it to last that long? Should I approach the girls who are sitting / standing by themselves?Many girls will chat for 2 or 3 minutes without a drink. Just buy her a drink and she will sit with you for 5 or 10 minutes, which is enough time to decide if you want to go upstairs with her. Before you buy her a drink, watch her with another monger, if she sucks down another monger's drink in 2 minutes, the same thing is going to happen to you. If you are very aggressive with her, she will suggest arriba very quickly.


ere you first walk in (the one that have 2-4 girls), are so damn hot to me, I thought 'no way she's making this her living. She's too fine.'Some very hot girls are making their money $60 at a time with a strange man in a hotel room. Nearly all of them are available. Over the years I've had 2 or 3 who refused drinks, for reasons that escaped me. Also, some girls wear sashes, which symbolizes something. Once I took a sash girl arriba and had a quickie with her. As she was dressing I asked what the sash meant and she said "NO SEX!" Those words came out of her mouth just as I was flushing the Trojan. Since then I've worried that I accidentally experienced a girl who had not yet reached the age of concent, but I really don't know. I'd like a clear definition of what a sash means. Edican, Assistant, Featured Girl.


Also, I don't speak Spanish but am Mexican, so everyone assumes I know the language, making it a little harder.I know about 100 words of Spanish. Some girls are more patient than others. Find a patient girl who speaks a little English and you will be fine.

GolfSexRroll
04-28-15, 05:52
Come to South LA hood and stay here for a few months you will turn into a man and Tijuana would look like Disneyland.
:)I was being SARCASTIC. I worked in the WORST parts of LA, and MIAMI. I live in Downtown SD. Its you guys that Shit your pants walking in Tijuana. Local Mexicans are no problem for (ME).

TomJackin
04-28-15, 06:02
I have been to Hong Kong a couple of times with friends. Upstairs there are two types of rooms in the bar. The first is the very small ones where I see men take the dancers / working girls and come out shortly after entering. The second seems more private with mirrors and glass overlooking the pole dancers. Would one of you veterans explain those rooms please? Thanks.There are several types of rooms.

Just go to the Web site and you can see them all.

SportMongr
04-28-15, 06:36
I was being SARCASTIC. I worked in the WORST parts of LA, and MIAMI. I live in Downtown SD. Its you guys that Shit your pants walking in Tijuana. Local Mexicans are no problem for (ME).Thanks for the places / ideas. I never heard of 99.9% of them. I guess I will be trying to find hotel Ticuan. Let's be real. Those making it out like Tijuana is Disneyland? You're talking out your butt. Come on people? And the red zone block. Has to be the safest. 1st on the adelta's side. It's nothing but taxi's and mongers. On the alley side mongers, and chicas and policia. And a few pimps.

I Grew up in the little Tijuana. In The 818. Yeah no so. La. But just like Tijuana. Many people with nothing to loose trying to " come up" and if you don't know. You can work and even walk around south La or Van Nuys in the day or morning. At night. Things change. Walk around hoody neighborhoods at night. My friends / neighbor hood thugs I grew up with would drive around our hood looking for people to jack up / rob. Someone walking alone was always prey. I usually monger solo in Tijuana.

Jackie888
04-28-15, 06:43
I have been to Hong Kong a couple of times with friends. Upstairs there are two types of rooms in the bar. The first is the very small ones where I see men take the dancers / working girls and come out shortly after entering. The second seems more private with mirrors and glass overlooking the pole dancers. Would one of you veterans explain those rooms please? Thanks.Smaller rooms are for lap dances, where the girls will give you a private strip show. I think that the rate is $20 for about 15 minutes. Pretty useless to me since you can get to see and touch any girl for $1 anywhere in the club. The mirror and glass room is for VIP suckers who buy buckets of beer and waste an enormous amount of money to sneaky waiters. In short, avoid those rooms unless you enjoy paying alot for very little in return. They are money pits.

SportMongr
04-28-15, 06:48
Creative architecture added Another floor to HK towards the back. So now you have 4 floors to have fun on. The entry floor, the 2nd floor with a smaller stripper stage, a 3rd floor right above the 2nd floor that no one visits but has VIP lap dance booths. Now they openned another floor on top of the back bar. I don't know how many building code violations they violated, but they somehow openned their 4th floor. It has a low ceiling so I'm guessing there were couples only several feet above me humping away jn their hotel rooms. At least we now have a place to take girls to neck on a crowded weekend night. And if one likes public sex, one can try to sneak a girl up there on a weekday where the entire area is supposed to be closed up.Aahhhh so you're one of the guys necking up all over the chica next to you. Good for you! Going in non-stop for the neck lips and ears. It's funny because as you're into your fantasy. You have no idea the look of disgust, shame, and public embarrassment all over the chica's face. She's usually dodging 1/2 your attempts. A few get through the defenses. Anyone else notice that? I like to chill and watch the ladies reactions to other mongers. Most of the time. It's hilarious. It's like "how much shit do I have to put up with before this dude gets enough wood to bang me" yeah not really my thing to be unnaturally shoving my tongue down the chica's throat anywhere 1st 2nd or 4th floor. LOL.

TomJackin
04-28-15, 07:01
Thanks for the places / ideas. I never heard of 99.9% of them. I guess I will be trying to find hotel Ticuan.The Ticuan is a great hotel that almost got burned down by romantic candles that fell over last November; yes, I was staying there that night. The entire 5th floor was gutted with water / smoke damage. The rooms have yet to reopen, but the restaurant / bar is running regular operations.

http://www.hotelticuan.mx/

Jackie888
04-28-15, 07:09
Aahhhh so you're one of the guys necking up all over the chica next to you. Good for you! Going in non-stop for the neck lips and ears. It's funny because as you're into your fantasy. You have no idea the look of disgust, shame, and public embarrassment all over the chica's face. She's usually dodging 1/2 your attempts. A few get through the defenses. Anyone else notice that? I like to chill and watch the ladies reactions to other mongers. Most of the time. It's hilarious. It's like "how much shit do I have to put up with before this dude gets enough wood to bang me" yeah not really my thing to be unnaturally shoving my tongue down the chica's throat anywhere 1st 2nd or 4th floor. LOL.Wow you're a rude mother fucker aren't you?

Phordphan
04-28-15, 07:23
Thanks for the places / ideas. I never heard of 99.9% of them. I guess I will be trying to find hotel Ticuan. Let's be real. Those making it out like Tijuana is Disneyland? You're talking out your butt. Come on people? And the red zone block. Has to be the safest. 1st on the adelta's side. It's nothing but taxi's and mongers. On the alley side mongers, and chicas and policia. And a few pimps.

I Grew up in the little Tijuana. In The 818. Yeah no so. La. But just like Tijuana. Many people with nothing to loose trying to " come up" and if you don't know. You can work and even walk around south La or Van Nuys in the day or morning. At night. Things change. Walk around hoody neighborhoods at night. My friends / neighbor hood thugs I grew up with would drive around our hood looking for people to jack up / rob. Someone walking alone was always prey. I usually monger solo in Tijuana.If you're too frightened to walk up Revu, in the middle of the afternoon, on a Saturday, with about a bazillion other people, then take a taxi to Ticuan. It's on the corner of Revu and 8th, behind Las Pulgas. The bar area is rather nice.

The main event starts at 8, you'll probably want to be there a couple of hours early, so it will still be light outside. No reason to be frightened.

BTW, there are loads of cops in the zona precisely *because* it's such a dangerous place. Isn't that obvious?

Gsil247
04-29-15, 02:14
Many girls will chat for 2 or 3 minutes without a drink. Just buy her a drink and she will sit with you for 5 or 10 minutes, which is enough time to decide if you want to go upstairs with her. Before you buy her a drink, watch her with another monger, if she sucks down another monger's drink in 2 minutes, the same thing is going to happen to you. If you are very aggressive with her, she will suggest arriba very quickly.

Some very hot girls are making their money $60 at a time with a strange man in a hotel room. Nearly all of them are available. Over the years I've had 2 or 3 who refused drinks, for reasons that escaped me. Also, some girls wear sashes, which symbolizes something. Once I took a sash girl arriba and had a quickie with her. As she was dressing I asked what the sash meant and she said "NO SEX!" Those words came out of her mouth just as I was flushing the Trojan. Since then I've worried that I accidentally experienced a girl who had not yet reached the age of concent, but I really don't know. I'd like a clear definition of what a sash means. Edican, Assistant, Featured Girl.

I know about 100 words of Spanish. Some girls are more patient than others. Find a patient girl who speaks a little English and you will be fine.Bro,

I swear, I owe you. This makes perfect sense. Come to think of it, when I sit down with the girls, all I do is grope them like I'm a teenage boy who's never touched a woman. And I'm pushing 30. I'm definitely going to take my time and try to feel them out.

Thanks man

SportMongr
04-29-15, 07:19
Wow you're a rude mother fucker aren't you?Hey Jack a bit sensitive these days? I hope you're the only one who did not read into my sarcasm / joke. I threw that out there as a funny observation. Am I wrong? Who know's what anyone really does in HK on this site. The word "necking" brought that picture to me.

This is the only place I can talk Tijuana bars with some people who enjoy going down there. I know on occasion working girls do get into it. Sadly for me and what I observe not much of the time in Tijuana. I think they are making too much money to give a shit. Sorry if my Debbie downer inside joke interfered with your mojo.

SportMongr
04-29-15, 07:24
If you're too frightened to walk up Revu, in the middle of the afternoon, on a Saturday, with about a bazillion other people, then take a taxi to Ticuan. It's on the corner of Revu and 8th, behind Las Pulgas. The bar area is rather nice.

The main event starts at 8, you'll probably want to be there a couple of hours early, so it will still be light outside. No reason to be frightened.

BTW, there are loads of cops in the zona precisely *because* it's such a dangerous place. Isn't that obvious?Thanks for the info, and your word choices made me laugh. Like I said. Tijuana in the day with the working class mom and ninos in tow is probably as safe as any low income area in LA or SD. At night I'll take the taxi back to HK. I'll probably be at the Ticuan sat. Night if any one want to smash me for being rude. LOL.

SportMongr
04-29-15, 07:31
Bro,

I swear, I owe you. This makes perfect sense. Come to think of it, when I sit down with the girls, all I do is grope them like I'm a teenage boy who's never touched a woman. And I'm pushing 30. I'm definitely going to take my time and try to feel them out.

Thanks manIn addition, to the previously mentioned advice. Sizing up the workers is a bit of an art form. But as a plain statement. The smoking hot 18- 24 yr. Olds for the most part don't want to drink and cuddle in the bar all night long. Meaning. You will get more love in the club at a direct relationship with how much availability the girl you are with has.

So go for a 6-7 and they will perhaps drink with you all night if they like you.

Jackie888
04-29-15, 17:54
Hey Jack a bit sensitive these days? I hope you're the only one who did not read into my sarcasm / joke. I threw that out there as a funny observation. Am I wrong? Who know's what anyone really does in HK on this site. The word "necking" brought that picture to me.

This is the only place I can talk Tijuana bars with some people who enjoy going down there. I know on occasion working girls do get into it. Sadly for me and what I observe not much of the time in Tijuana. I think they are making too much money to give a shit. Sorry if my Debbie downer inside joke interfered with your mojo.Apology accepted. Disregard the misunderstanding.

Captain Solo
04-30-15, 04:55
With other girls, that is.

Couple times in HK and Tropical, I spotted girls who would smile sweetly with other girls. I really thought they would be the sweetest, sexiest, most loving angels in bed, but the opposite was true.

If they are sweet to other girls, they usually hate men and their hatred would show as soon as you take their clothes off. They would start bitching and acting up, don't touch this, don't do that etc. Generally try to avoid intimate contacts with the guys.

One of the prettiest, sweetest, liveliest young girl in Tropical was Ariceli. She was the most popular girl, a crack head, fast talking, exciting. Mexican guys were waiting their turns to buy her drinks to sit with the. But in bed, she was acting more like a boy, avoiding all contacts, did not even want to look at me, treated me with disgust. I got turned off with her coldness so I put my clothes on to leave. She stuck a finger in her pussy then pressed it in my nose to prove she was clean therefore I should continue to fuck her.

Same thing happened to me a couple times in HK.

If the girls are having a sweet times with other girls, watch out. They may be lesbians. It may be hard for them to fuck you with passion or even with any interests.

Member #1050
04-30-15, 06:01
I was at HK this Saturday and selection had nothing above a 7.

Tipped a few ones a couple of dollars to grab and kiss their ass while they were at the pole.

Ended up grabbing a pretty SG for the night.

SolidarityRebo
04-30-15, 06:02
Sucks Amber was there on Friday, I think she's a 9.

WanderingMan
05-05-15, 07:53
A friend with whom I travel at times decided to try two of the soap girls and relayed his opinions to me.

1. Rosario is the tall and average size blonde with a fairly large butt. M reports she was energetic, playful, and enjoyable. She was the best lay on his trip. She did have a bit of a nibble but nothing terrible. Aimed to please and offered an initial massage.

2. The tiny brunette with large glasses and cute outfits ended up the polar opposite according to M. Gave him good head but didn't last long and she just laid there more or less. Said she was tight but inactive. Quite different than when she dances. She stays busy with ficha drinks and dancing / teasing men.

Recommendations were to go with Rosario and enjoy her personality and the ride.

Jackie888
05-05-15, 18:16
A friend with whom I travel at times decided to try two of the soap girls and relayed his opinions to me.

1. Rosario is the tall and average size blonde with a fairly large butt. M reports she was energetic, playful, and enjoyable. She was the best lay on his trip. She did have a bit of a nibble but nothing terrible. Aimed to please and offered an initial massage.

2. The tiny brunette with large glasses and cute outfits ended up the polar opposite according to M. Gave him good head but didn't last long and she just laid there more or less. Said she was tight but inactive. Quite different than when she dances. She stays busy with ficha drinks and dancing / teasing men.

Recommendations were to go with Rosario and enjoy her personality and the ride.The tiny little brunette is a real pushy pain in the ass. She gave me a hard time once for not tipping her as I merely walked by the Whip Cream show. I wasnt even interested in her. She must have mistaken me for Willi Wonka or something.

Member #4450
05-05-15, 23:32
With other girls, that is.

Couple times in HK and Tropical, I spotted girls who would smile sweetly with other girls. I really thought they would be the sweetest, sexiest, most loving angels in bed, but the opposite was true.

If they are sweet to other girls, they usually hate men and their hatred would show as soon as you take their clothes off. They would start bitching and acting up, don't touch this, don't do that etc. Generally try to avoid intimate contacts with the guys.

One of the prettiest, sweetest, liveliest young girl in Tropical was Ariceli. She was the most popular girl, a crack head, fast talking, exciting. Mexican guys were waiting their turns to buy her drinks to sit with the. But in bed, she was acting more like a boy, avoiding all contacts, did not even want to look at me, treated me with disgust. I got turned off with her coldness so I put my clothes on to leave. She stuck a finger in her pussy then pressed it in my nose to prove she was clean therefore I should continue to fuck her.

Same thing happened to me a couple times in HK.

If the girls are having a sweet times with other girls, watch out. They may be lesbians. It may be hard for them to fuck you with passion or even with any interests.I don't think they're lesbians they just hate what they do and it is all mechanical, very common with the paraditas. I remember a paradita said to me not to touch my dick because of germs that's just dumb. There's no angels in the zona the only angels I like are the Victoria secret models.

WanderingMan
05-06-15, 00:03
I don't think they're lesbians they just hate what they do and it is all mechanical, very common with the paraditas. I remember a paradita said to me not to touch my dick because of germs that's just dumb. There's no angels in the zona the only angels I like are the Victoria secret models.You seem to be right about the lack of angels in the zona. It seems a very short window from when a girl starts working to when she dislikes what she does. There is a tall blonde who dances in Hong Kong quite a bit, she's phenomenal at dancing. When you look closely at her you can see she's in her own mental space. Gets good tips when dancing but not many men take her ariba. One patron indicted she was cold and mechanical. Goes with the business I suppose.

The Tall Man
05-06-15, 02:24
I was at HK this Saturday and selection had nothing above a 7.

Tipped a few ones a couple of dollars to grab and kiss their ass while they were at the pole.

Ended up grabbing a pretty SG for the night.I was there for "Fight Night" this past Saturday May 1, 2015 and was VERY disappointed at the lack of quality in the women, Not only at HK but also spent considerable time at the Trop and Adelitas. Very sub-par.

The Tall Man.

GolfSexRroll
05-06-15, 02:39
I was there for "Fight Night" this past Saturday May 1, 2015 and was VERY disappointed at the lack of quality in the women, Not only at HK but also spent considerable time at the Trop and Adelitas. Very sub-par.

The Tall Man.I was talking to a lot of My favorite SGs on Sunday. A lot of them went home early to watch the fight. This could of been the problem in HK and the other bars. Perhaps the girls were concerned with the competition of the fight?

SportMongr
05-06-15, 06:09
I was talking to a lot of My favorite SGs on Sunday. A lot of them went home early to watch the fight. This could of been the problem in HK and the other bars. Perhaps the girls were concerned with the competition of the fight?I walked into HK around 11 pm on fight night. It was a hot, steamy, uncomfortable, toe to toe, sausage feast. There were a few girls scattered around but their numbers were dwarfed by all the sweaty balls. The girls were nothing special, during the 10 minutes I strolled around I think I saw 2 I would take. 1 was by herself even though chaos was everywhere. She had a pissed look on her face because she was hot and no one was biding a 100 on her. I saw a 2 young style fresh and clean 9-10's. And they were being held by older Asian dudes. That seems like the norm in HK now.

All being said. I have no clue how anyone goes to monger in HK on Fri. / Sat night. ? It's so bad. The chica's seem to have the worst attitude, especially if they are good looking and younger. It's funny because I meet people who are HK or adelta's regulars. And I sense a bit of disapproval for hooking up with the St. Girls. As if those chicas are somehow beneath club girls also sensing taking a st. Girl is a non kosher thing to do.

But throwing down $80-$100 on a bitchy HK girl who 1/2 the time offers nothing special for the 5 times the upgrade in price.

HK girls in the afternoon. Maybe worth it if the girl is willing to provide more love for the additional funds. But how so many guys love the sausage fests at HK amazes me.

WanderingMan
05-06-15, 11:23
At times Hong Kong seems like a high school event. The men are trying to get the best looking girl and spending enormous amounts of time and money on them instead of simply taking them upstairs. At times I have seen men run out of money intended for sex by purchasing numerous ficha drinks, trinkets, etc.

The testosterone in there also gets high on the weekends. One man wanted to fight my friend over a bar girl of all things. My friend said, "you can have her. " He found another. The most appropriate shirt I saw in there said, "love for rent."

I have noticed Asian older gentlemen seem to snag the best looking girls. Guess the currency exchange and economy is better in Asia than the USA.

ScatManDoo
05-06-15, 14:47
I have noticed Asian older gentlemen seem to snag the best looking girls. Guess the currency exchange and economy is better in Asia than the USA.I don't know if they are better off economically as a whole.

Numerous bar girls have expressed a preference for Asian mongers because they seem more willing to get ficha fucked and, as a group, they may be less demanding.

They might be trying to compensate for their relative pecking order in SoCal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcVBu3R_ajM

GolfSexRroll
05-06-15, 15:38
I walked into HK around 11 pm on fight night. It was a hot, steamy, uncomfortable, toe to toe, sausage feast. There were a few girls scattered around but their numbers were dwarfed by all the sweaty balls. The girls were nothing special, during the 10 minutes I strolled around I think I saw 2 I would take. 1 was by herself even though chaos was everywhere. She had a pissed look on her face because she was hot and no one was biding a 100 on her. I saw a 2 young style fresh and clean 9-10's. And they were being held by older Asian dudes. That seems like the norm in HK now.

All being said. I have no clue how anyone goes to monger in HK on Fri. / Sat night. ? It's so bad. The chica's seem to have the worst attitude, especially if they are good looking and younger. It's funny because I meet people who are HK or adelta's regulars. And I sense a bit of disapproval for hooking up with the St. Girls. As if those chicas are somehow beneath club girls also sensing taking a st. Girl is a non kosher thing to do.

But throwing down $80-$100 on a bitchy HK girl who 1/2 the time offers nothing special for the 5 times the upgrade in price.

HK girls in the afternoon. Maybe worth it if the girl is willing to provide more love for the additional funds. But how so many guys love the sausage fests at HK amazes me.I NEVER go into HK anymore. And I NEVER went on SAT. Or FRI. To me it is a waste of time and money. I am a TRUE believer in SGs. In fact the first time going back into HK in a year was to see a "former" SG Sophia (to say "Hi" and "good luck".) Same SG now gets $80-$100 sessions in Cascada. Same girl you could of gotten for 300 pesos and for a VIP card the same 30 min. In the room! I can not see the reasoning how those think a SG is less a woman than a BG!

Jackie888
05-06-15, 18:35
I NEVER go into HK anymore. And I NEVER went on SAT. Or FRI. To me it is a waste of time and money. I am a TRUE believer in SGs. In fact the first time going back into HK in a year was to see a "former" SG Sophia (to say "Hi" and "good luck".) Same SG now gets $80-$100 sessions in Cascada. Same girl you could of gotten for 300 pesos and for a VIP card the same 30 min. In the room! I can not see the reasoning how those think a SG is less a woman than a BG!I think that one simply has to be more choosy in HK. My two best lay in Tijuana came from HK chicas. One is a tall sweet regular dancer that spent about an hour with me while doing everything imaginable between a man and a woman. And the other is an ex model, who is a current law student. She gave me her number and we're now facebook friends. (Yeah they both tower over me LOL). But of course these were the only HK lays I've had in the last 5 months.

However by the time 9 pm hits on a Friday or Saturday night, I'm in Tropicals, wandering the alley, or in the lesser clubs because even if I get into HK without lining up, theres no place to sit and the only Chicas left are left-overs.

XShortieEx
05-07-15, 23:15
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Captain Solo
05-08-15, 08:54
HK has some incredibly beautiful girls, Playboy's quality. I estimate only about 25% of HK chicas I took upstairs showed any interests or affection to me. The rest are just there, quietly and efficiently going through the motion to get me off, get paid, then hurry off to score some drugs, or go back down to the bar to hook more guys. A few were faking so hard it was ridiculous. Most tend to act like hardened hos or robots with boobs, showing little interests or affection, not even a smile.

I repeated with a few HK girls and their attitudes did become friendlier, the sex did get better. But to get to be friend with them, guys have to spend a lot of money on fichas, and sit around to enjoy the ridiculous BS chicas dish out to them. 2 of my wingmen went dead broke buying fichas within 1 year going to HK.

To me street girls are more real, friendlier and more down to earth. They would talk, sometimes in broken English, and kid around with me as we go in and out of the hotel.

It's fun to see chicas like Kenya try to find the right English words to express themselves. When she climaxes, her eyes would be wide open in terror, her lips quivering, she would be squeezing me hard, pulling my butt into her crotch. After a while, she would feel discomfort, caressing my back, saying gently " . You come. Baby. " I feel closer to Kenya than just about all my previous girls friends. Strange but true. If I feel that close to any bar girl, eventually she would be able suck all my money out for her fichas and emergency bills.

Cristal would always accuse me of screwing too many girls, therefore taking long time with her. But I just naturally do long sessions when I like the girl and the mood is right. When she climaxes, she would turn her face to the side, closing her eyes tight, biting her lips, squeezing and clawing my back. Then she would stop and add more lube. She claimed she had to do too much work with me and got tired.

I cannot shoot too many loads a night. So I tend to go for girls who are known to give me sure fire good sessions.


I NEVER go into HK anymore. And I NEVER went on SAT. Or FRI. To me it is a waste of time and money. I am a TRUE believer in SGs. In fact the first time going back into HK in a year was to see a "former" SG Sophia (to say "Hi" and "good luck".) Same SG now gets $80-$100 sessions in Cascada. Same girl you could of gotten for 300 pesos and for a VIP card the same 30 min. In the room! I can not see the reasoning how those think a SG is less a woman than a BG!

Jackie888
05-08-15, 16:28
Solo. It's time you give Tropicals a try. Do it the last hour before you leave. Maybe your last drink or two before you hit the road (2 for 1 beers is standard).

Captain Solo
05-10-15, 01:08
Did stop in Tropical and D & C on the way back. Did not find any chicas worth staying.


Solo. It's time you give Tropicals a try. Do it the last hour before you leave. Maybe your last drink or two before you hit the road (2 for 1 beers is standard).

Jackie888
05-10-15, 20:27
Did stop in Tropical and D & C on the way back. Did not find any chicas worth staying.You're not drinking enough beer. Drink more and they'll get prettier.

Jackie888
05-10-15, 21:07
Answering your own post; nice touch.Dear Admins.

Apparently Tomjack's personal obsession with Wing has turned him into an asshole. Unfortunately my fuse is considereably shorter than Wing's fuse. Therefore, is there an ignore button that I could apply so that I could skip all of Tomjack's posts from here on?

Captain Solo
05-10-15, 23:25
There are a wide varieties of people in these forums, many are not exactly mentally stable or competent.

It's best just to ignore them, and not feed their stupid and sadistic personality.

Report any harassment or personal attacks to moderators.


Dear Admins.

Apparently Tomjack's personal obsession with Wing has turned him into an asshole. Unfortunately my fuse is considereably shorter than Wing's fuse. Therefore, is there an ignore button that I could apply so that I could skip all of Tomjack's posts from here on?

Phordphan
05-11-15, 23:24
Dear Admins.

Apparently Tomjack's personal obsession with Wing has turned him into an asshole. Unfortunately my fuse is considereably shorter than Wing's fuse. Therefore, is there an ignore button that I could apply so that I could skip all of Tomjack's posts from here on?Don't get all excited. There is a simple explanation.

Personally, I think your writing style differs substantially from Wing's, to the point that I don't think you're the same person. However, few posters post views that are in such lockstep with the gadfly ramblings of Wing. So, Tom can be forgiven if he thinks Wing came up with yet another handle to post under, in order to reinforce his views. Believe me, he's not the first, nor will he be the last.

Now, if you still have such a short fuse, go to your profile, click on the Edit Ignore List link and add Tom's name. Easy-peasy and you don't have to whine to the Admin.

FlapJacK
05-11-15, 23:25
HK has some incredibly beautiful girls, Playboy's quality. I estimate only about 25% of HK chicas I took upstairs showed any interests or affection to me. The rest are just there, quietly and efficiently going through the motion to get me off, get paid, then hurry off to score some drugs, or go back down to the bar to hook more guys. A few were faking so hard it was ridiculous. Most tend to act like hardened hos or robots with boobs, showing little interests or affection, not even a smile.


To me street girls are more real, friendlier and more down to earth. They would talk, sometimes in broken English, and kid around with me as we go in and out of the hotel.

Mostly Agree with this as most my best sessions have been several of the street girls that I became regular with and even one that I still enjoy see after 5+ years. But then there has been a few bar girls over the years to that have been very generous with me and met me on off days or before or after work hours.

Gsil247
05-13-15, 03:31
Because of you guys, I have learned (and am still learning), on the do's and don'ts. Example, a few weeks ago some fine ass who kinda looks like the porn star Rose Monroe came up to me and said, "you want sex baby?" Had it not been for you guys, my dumb ass would have went along with it. I know realize there are girls who just want to turn around as many as possible with little to no effort. The 'work smarter not harder' bullshit. So I just say something stupid to amuse myself like, "what I want is to be able to fully play my mobile video games, and to not make those payments on freemium games that companies like EA is known for. If you can provide me that, I'll take 2. " She sarcastically smiled and left. I had another girl who I talked to first and holy shit, I now see why people marry women for great sex.

Thank you all.

Jackie888
05-13-15, 16:31
Because of you guys, I have learned (and am still learning), on the do's and don'ts. I had another girl who I talked to first and holy shit, I now see why people marry women for great sex.

Thank you all.This last comment has all of us worried.

Gsil247
05-13-15, 18:45
This last comment has all of us worried.I see what your saying. Rest assure though, I'm not one of those guys. I just meant, the sex was so good, I felt like a new man. Dr. Dre said it best, "can't make a hoe a housewife. ".

ClamSlammer
05-14-15, 03:36
HK has some incredibly beautiful girls, Playboy's quality.With all due respect Wing, where the hell are you seeing these Playboy types? The hottest chica I've ever seen in the Zona was probably an 8. 5. In my years in the zona I've never even seen one chica that's even close to Playboy quality. The only Playboy chicas I've seen in the zona are the ones who actually work at Playboy, the clip joint on Constitution.

Member #4450
05-14-15, 03:53
With all due respect Wing, where the hell are you seeing these Playboy types? The hottest chica I've ever seen in the Zona was probably an 8. 5. In my years in the zona I've never even seen one chica that's even close to Playboy quality. The only Playboy chicas I've seen in the zona are the ones who actually work at Playboy, the clip joint on Constitution.I agree CS and I wonder why these HK girls charge much as $100 compared to $60 AB do they really think they're playboy material, they should cost the same as AB.

Jackie888
05-14-15, 04:17
IMHO, Caramel, Tiffany, and 3 more girls (sorry I can't remember their HK names) are playboy material. But then beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

HorseTrader
05-14-15, 04:36
I agree CS and I wonder why these HK girls charge much as $100 compared to $60 AB do they really think they're playboy material, they should cost the same as AB.I'm amazed that you could go to AB and the street girls so many years and not set foot into Hong Kong until recently. Good to hear that you got over that hump. It seems like only a couple of weeks ago that you hadn't been inside HK, so I'm sure you wouldn't claim any expetise yet. Obiously, you didn't think the girls were Playboy quality, but how did you like it?

IMHO, the average HK girls are worth a little more than the average AB girls. Perhaps a lot of mongers agree with me because the HK girls do seem to get $70 to $80 while the AB girls are getting about $60. The $100 that you quote has not been typical in my expeience.

On another topic, I'm like Phord and would like to hear some specific SOCAL places that you recommend for high quality food at reasonable prices. I have had many great meals in San Diego but they typically cost a whole lot more than similar quality meals in TJ. That is one area where you are expert.

Captain Solo
05-14-15, 06:14
By Playboy quality I mean girls who are not exactly the prettiest, but look over all beautiful, nice, clean, healthy, youthful, happy or neutral, and somewhat innocent. Playboy pics always shows girls with perfect, tattoo-free skin, but as you know, the pics are heavily touched up to hide skin blemishes.

HK does have a few girls who would meet these criteria.

This new girl Marilyn has a pretty face with a perfectly proportioned body, perfect skin, long, strong, sexy legs, nice, perfectly round perky natural B cups that are spongy, not likely to be fakes.

Esperancia is pretty close to perfect, but she's petite and I have not seen her in HK after she passed out and had to be carried home by the big, fat mesero.

Emily was another tall, pretty girl with perfect skin and nice, round, perky B cups. She speaks English and so nice, gentle and compliant. I thought she is one of the classier chicas.

I know Jackie888 likes Tiffany, but she's getting saggy with bags under her worried eyes, her body looks worn out. Sasha is also growing old, her boobs are starting to drop, her face shows lots of worries now that she has a kid.

I hope you were being sarcastic about the chicas at Playboy club on Constitucion. Most Playboy chicas look like old, diseased, shriveled, toothless, rotten, aggressive crack hos. But perhaps they are beauties to your eyes. You can keep them all for yourself.


With all due respect Wing, where the hell are you seeing these Playboy types? The hottest chica I've ever seen in the Zona was probably an 8. 5. In my years in the zona I've never even seen one chica that's even close to Playboy quality. The only Playboy chicas I've seen in the zona are the ones who actually work at Playboy, the clip joint on Constitution.

ClamSlammer
05-14-15, 08:32
IMHO, Caramel, Tiffany, and 3 more girls (sorry I can't remember their HK names) are playboy material. But then beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.I haven't been going to the zona as much as I used to so I don't recognize those names but I would love to see pics. There used to be a blonde, gringa-looking Amnesia chica that I would rate a 9. Don't remember ever seeing anything above 8. 5 at HK.

Jackie888
05-14-15, 16:09
I haven't been going to the zona as much as I used to so I don't recognize those names but I would love to see pics. There used to be a blonde, gringa-looking Amnesia chica that I would rate a 9. Don't remember ever seeing anything above 8. 5 at HK.Beauty is a subjective thing. I think that we can all reasonably agree to what is up to an 8. But from 8-10, everyone has their unique preception of what that is. For me I don't find playboy models to be 10's. But I do find many runway models to be 10's. However I know that many men find those to be too skinny and tall. (BTW you meant Amerisian right? An amnesia chica would look kind of retarded wandering in circles considering that she lost all of her memory.). And of course if a girl makes me "finis" more than once in 45 minutes, her beauty rating gets an automatic bump.

Jackie888
05-14-15, 16:19
I know Jackie888 likes Tiffany, but she's getting saggy with bags under her worried eyes, her body looks worn out. Sasha is also growing old, her boobs are starting to drop, her face shows lots of worries now that she has a kid.

I hope you were being sarcastic about the chicas at Playboy club on Constitucion. Most Playboy chicas look like old, diseased, shriveled, toothless, rotten, aggressive crack hos. But perhaps they are beauties to your eyes. You can keep them all for yourself.I remember the firts time I saw Tiffany. It was like Yesterday. She wore a black cocktail dress with that funny HK sash around her. Walked right up to me, and looked right over my head (damn stilletos) and I knew that I was in love. She sat with a guy who tried his hardest to impress her, all that time she completely ignore him and starred out the doors. She was there but her mind was 1,000 miles away.

Come to think of it, not much have changed other than a couple of years and blonde hair. I would pay a bundle to know her life story.

Gsil247
05-15-15, 20:32
So I'll be going the next month on a Sunday staying the night. I've only been there on Saturdays and I know it gets packed starting around 8-9. What can I expect on Sunday night and it's June so summer season will be upon us. I've only started going this year to Tijuana, so should I expect big crowds from June. August.

HorseTrader
05-15-15, 21:24
So I'll be going the next month on a Sunday staying the night. I've only been there on Saturdays and I know it gets packed starting around 8-9. What can I expect on Sunday night and it's June so summer season will be upon us. I've only started going this year to Tijuana, so should I expect big crowds from June. August.I don't like HK on Saturday evenings because it is too crowded, especially with sausages. Bigger selection on Saturday, but still plenty of good options on Sunday afternoon and evening. The ficha drinks seem to last longer on Sunday than Saturday.

If I were given a choice of going on Saturday night or Sunday night, I would pick Sunday without question.

Simon Wagstaff
05-16-15, 13:25
I don't like HK on Saturday evenings because it is too crowded, especially with sausages. Bigger selection on Saturday, but still plenty of good options on Sunday afternoon and evening. The ficha drinks seem to last longer on Sunday than Saturday.

If I were given a choice of going on Saturday night or Sunday night, I would pick Sunday without question.I have had most awesome times in Tijuana on a Sunday afternoon, it's my preferred time to visit, and make sure I am out of there before the sun goes down.

Captain Solo
05-16-15, 20:04
Unlike her half-sister Hachia who hangs out at HK everyday, Sol disappeared for a few months and just came back to HK. I ran into her Friday night.

She came back with a new shorter hair cut, wearing a smaller pink bikini, looking much younger and prettier, like a high school girl. She's a spinner, about 5'4, 100 Lbs with smooth, unblemished light skin, pretty face, be cups, flat ab and long sexy legs. She looks much prettier and younger compared to Zwannee who used to work Adelita. Her body has that smooth, creamy, youthful looks, compared to Tiffany's or Zwannee's which look more high-mileage.

She came back a completely new girl, looking much younger and sexier, even better than the much younger Sasha, despite what I heard that she popped 3 kids. Her boobs and the rest of her body is kind of soft, but she sure looks like a high-class, well cared for young girl.

She does not speak English, but guys like HotTub should look her up to wean himself off the tits of Zwannee.

BertBeserk
05-18-15, 04:31
I have had most awesome times in Tijuana on a Sunday afternoon, it's my preferred time to visit, and make sure I am out of there before the sun goes down.I was there last Sunday afternoon and it was great. Met Alex on bar stool by front door. Real nice girl. Anyone have any info on her?

Striker2
05-18-15, 14:40
After having fun with two escorts, I decided to visit HK and AD. Since this was my first time I followed the advice in the forum once again. Parked, walked across to the Taxis 5 dollars to HK and boom I was there Sunday Afternoon around 3 pm. After a quick pat down I walked in to candy land. After viewing pictures I knew the general layout so I walked around for a while getting the general feel and found myself a table. After reading the posts I was expecting to be pounced on my waiters asking me if I wanted a drink girls etc, not sure if it was because it was Sunday or what but not single person approached me. In fact I had to go up to the Bar to get a water since I don't drink. 4 dollars for a 4 ounce water or whatever it was. I could see where this could get expensive, any advice on what to order if you don't drink.

Girls that were dancing were very hot yet most if the girls seemed to be just standing around or sitting with each other rather than mingling again maybe it was because it was Sunday. Anyway after a really funny stage show with a guy dressed as a girl and singing the girls started dancing again. I spotted a really cute girl she was hot almost looked Asian dirty blond hair. I tipped her on stage and she joined me at my table. She spoke some English Not sure what her name was but I think it started with an A. She was very proud of the fact she had no kids and her breasts were real which according to her is special at HK. I bought her a drink to gage her response as was recommended. She responded by doing everything but pulling junior out and giving me a hand job right there.

She asked if I wanted to go upstairs, and I'm not sure who put this in a previous post but thank you I used it almost word for word and It worked. I told her she had to be the prettiest girl in the bar and had to be really expensive. She laughed and said no she its only 80 dollars. I was willing to pay that but I said no thanks, and she said for me because I was special (right) only 60 dollars. I thought that was a deal and off we went. After getting her stylish black robe we went to the hotel. Wow BBBJ which I was not expecting and a wild ride cowgirl but it all seemed very rushed not like the GFE I had with the agency girls. Still a very good time.

Next after returning to the Bar I decided to go check out AD. Walked out the back door and down to AD. The place has been described as dark, yep and what a difference. Going from high energy at HK to is everyone alive in here. No one dancing not only were the girls just standing around but so was everyone else. Sat down got a full 12 ounce water here nice, and next thing I have a thick blond standing in front of me. Apparently not shy she stuck her hand in my pants said something about him being asleep but she fix that. And she did I bought her a drink while she brought him back to life. We went upstairs after we agreed on 60 dollars I think I could have negotiated a better deal since it was so slow but just went with it. OMG this girl was fun I did not understand what she was saying other than cunnilingus over and over again apparently she wanted to be kissed licked sucked everywhere too funny. Fun had by all but I was done after that and returned across the border to return the following weekend for phase 3 street girls.

Striker2
05-18-15, 15:02
Third weekend in a row to Tijuana and the plan was to stick with SG. I arrived last Sunday the 10th and if anyone was there they probably witnessed this show. I arrived around 4 with the intention of grabbing a water and going out back to walk the alley for a while. Instead a girl caught my eye when I walked in. She was wearing almost like a school teacher outfit white top black skirt and thick glasses. Again I did not get her name I will get better at remembering them I'm sure. She sat down she spoke very good English said she had been off for a month and this was her first day back. She said she has regulars that take care of her including a German guy who takes care of her monthly expenses. I buy her a drink and that's where it went downhill. One drink turned into two then she asks me to buy her a whisky. Sure why not well 24 dollars is a good reason not to buy her a whisky but she got two tickets out of it. Then she wanted another she said we could go to the Miami room and have fun she would dance for me. Bottom line this girl got blasted, I mean falling down drunk not able to even stand up without help. And I mean not just drunk but really drunk one of the waiters suggested I take her outside. She got her robe went outside I though she was going to have a smoke or something next thing she goes walking off down the street I get her back she then walks into the bar next to HK saying we can drink free there, not so much get her out of there then she is like lets go to a room. Could it get worse yes, get her upstairs where she proceeds to fall down in the bathroom then takes a brief NAP until they knock on the door. Now what with the help of two of the guys we get her on her feet downstairs and back to the bar. Get me out of here please is all I'm thinking then she decides she wants to dance after throwing her shoes at the table knocking stuff everywhere she comes off the stage and into the arms of another monger. I'm free I ran out of there not looking back.

Now a couple of questions, I had the opportunity to talk to a few locals who were amused by the whole thing but they mentioned that the girls charge 50 for locals to go upstairs and 80 for gringos? Is that true is there a different rate.

Should of stuck with my plan of SG which will be next week. I have some questions in that regards that I will ask in that thread.

ScatManDoo
05-18-15, 17:03
Now a couple of questions, I had the opportunity to talk to a few locals who were amused by the whole thing but they mentioned that the girls charge 50 for locals to go upstairs and 80 for gringos? Is that true is there a different rate.There is definitely a 'Gringo Tax' and that price differential between american tourists and perceived locals seems about right. You were told the truth.

Before you devote a lot of time to learning conversational Spanish, I suggest you do one thing different on your next trip to LZ.

Exchange a couple hundred dollars into pesos at a cambio and negotiate strictly in pesos.

In the prior post you questioned whether that a chica that went up with you for $60 on a Sunday could have been bought for less. The answer is yes. When she asked for $60, you could have offered her 600 pesos and her answer probably would have been si (to the equivalent of $41).

Jackie888
05-18-15, 17:48
Third weekend in a row to Tijuana and the plan was to stick with SG. I arrived last Sunday the 10th and if anyone was there they probably witnessed this show. I arrived around 4 with the intention of grabbing a water and going out back to walk the alley for a while. Instead a girl caught my eye when I walked in. She was wearing almost like a school teacher outfit white top black skirt and thick glasses. Again I did not get her name I will get better at remembering them I'm sure. She sat down she spoke very good English said she had been off for a month and this was her first day back. She said she has regulars that take care of her including a German guy who takes care of her monthly expenses. I buy her a drink and that's where it went downhill. One drink turned into two then she asks me to buy her a whisky. Sure why not well 24 dollars is a good reason not to buy her a whisky but she got two tickets out of it. Then she wanted another she said we could go to the Miami room and have fun she would dance for me. Bottom line this girl got blasted, I mean falling down drunk not able to even stand up without help. And I mean not just drunk but really drunk one of the waiters suggested I take her outside. She got her robe went outside I though she was going to have a smoke or something next thing she goes walking off down the street I get her back she then walks into the bar next to HK saying we can drink free there, not so much get her out of there then she is like lets go to a room. Could it get worse yes, get her upstairs where she proceeds to fall down in the bathroom then takes a brief NAP until they knock on the door. Now what with the help of two of the guys we get her on her feet downstairs and back to the bar. Get me out of here please is all I'm thinking then she decides she wants to dance after throwing her shoes at the table knocking stuff everywhere she comes off the stage and into the arms of another monger. I'm free I ran out of there not looking back.

Now a couple of questions, I had the opportunity to talk to a few locals who were amused by the whole thing but they mentioned that the girls charge 50 for locals to go upstairs and 80 for gringos? Is that true is there a different rate.

Should of stuck with my plan of SG which will be next week. I have some questions in that regards that I will ask in that thread.Pretty funny experience. Great report. Girls charge gringos $80 because most of us aren't used to negotiations which is how prices are settled on in Mexico. I generally start with offering 500 pesos, then I increase in increments of 100 pesos up to a maximum of 800 pesos. Any higher and I walk because I now know that the girl is too mercenary for me.

Yeah, in the real world, a horny drunk chick is a great fun. It really stinks in Tijuana and based on my own experience, Tijuana horney drunk chica = she is going to take a nap. When she told you she has a German stream of income, you should have cut her loose. Have fun, be safe and easy on the fricha drinks. It will empty your wallet faster than great sex can.

HorseTrader
05-19-15, 02:27
Now a couple of questions, I had the opportunity to talk to a few locals who were amused by the whole thing but they mentioned that the girls charge 50 for locals to go upstairs and 80 for gringos? Is that true is there a different rate.Several months ago I had an extensive conversation with one of my old HK favorites. It's true that the girls charge more or less depending on how they like you, how much money they need right then, and how much money they think they can get from you. It would seem to follow that locals and gringos are likely to get different prices. But there is no formal price structure.

Another one of my old favorites told me that she only goes arriba with gringos. She probably told the opposite to her local friends.

Striker2
05-19-15, 16:00
Will defiantly take your advice and convert some of my dollars into pesos. A great example of this gringo tax can be found on the Tijuana musas escort page they clearly list two prices both in pesos and dollars. I assumed maybe they were just behind on the conversion but they have two separate lines for Spanish and English customers to book and I confirmed the different pricing. Oh well it is what it is.

I seem to lose my mind when I get someone sitting on my lap, better negotiate up front while you still have a chance.

Thanks


There is definitely a 'Gringo Tax' and that price differential between american tourists and perceived locals seems about right. You were told the truth.

Before you devote a lot of time to learning conversational Spanish, I suggest you do one thing different on your next trip to LZ.

Exchange a couple hundred dollars into pesos at a cambio and negotiate strictly in pesos.

In the prior post you questioned whether that a chica that went up with you for $60 on a Sunday could have been bought for less. The answer is yes. When she asked for $60, you could have offered her 600 pesos and her answer probably would have been si (to the equivalent of $41).

ClamSlammer
05-20-15, 13:39
I haven't been to HK on a Fri/Sat night since the second floor section on the south end opened with all the new tables. Is it still difficult to get a table on a weekend?

MaskedTurbator
05-20-15, 14:50
I haven't been to HK on a Fri/Sat night since the second floor section on the south end opened with all the new tables. Is it still difficult to get a table on a weekend?Depends. With the opening of the two new wings upstairs on the renovated third floor, it is entirely possible to get a table on a busy weekend night. If all you want is a table to take your chosen chica for some fichas, fondling, and fingering, you shouldn't have an issue. An added plus is the relative obscurity from peeping toms trying to get a free show.

A table with a view of the stages, though? Probably much harder. Every time I've been there on a Friday / Saturday, those overlooking the first floor stage have always been packed from 9 pm-1 am, minimum. If you want a table in that area, you'd probably need to either wait until after the rush, or make some friends with the meseros, like I have.

The meseros prefer handjobs. Or so I've heard.

MT

Uncle Al
05-23-15, 01:47
Went Thursday firs kinda day of memorial day weekend, the exchange rate was great so I'm getting around 1500 pesos for my hundred at the bored so mongering is real cheap this trip.

They had the buy one beer set up that they usually only have on weekends, it was kinda slow last night there, still under renovations, the soap bar is on the second floor now and up and running and the 3rd floor was open but still a lot of work to be done but much more room now.

Had a few beers had then hit SW for 200 pesos, so like 13 us dollars.

The best rate I've ever got at HK is 600 pesos and the most I've paid is 800, they tried for 100 but I've always said way to much.

P.S. I've have a bunch of free hotel and beverage cards for hk so I'm drinking for except for my tipping.

Rohan Cid
05-23-15, 16:30
When I read the stories about soap show ladies bringing up a man to join them, is there any sex play on that stage and if there is, do they use condoms? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but this has been on my mind for a while and I had to ask.

Jackie888
05-23-15, 16:47
When I read the stories about soap show ladies bringing up a man to join them, is there any sex play on that stage and if there is, do they use condoms? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but this has been on my mind for a while and I had to ask.Yes there is an attempt at sex play. But because of stage fright, I have never seen a guy be able to perform. One was close, and the girls were tossed multiple condoms. But he lost it when he saw the giant strap on dildo tossed to the girls as well. What a puss. LOL. If you get pick to be the lucky bachelor, I suggest you cover your face with whip cream ASAP, because when you're unable to perform in front of hundreds of people jeering at you, and your video / photos go viril, there is at least a plausibility of lgitimate denial.

HorseTrader
05-23-15, 18:40
When I read the stories about soap show ladies bringing up a man to join them, is there any sex play on that stage and if there is, do they use condoms? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but this has been on my mind for a while and I had to ask.I've seen it started a few times, but the man often backs down after a short time. Perhaps he realizes he can't get hard. Watched one man have standing doggie style sex right on the stage while the girl looked totally bored. He definately got hard and stayed inside of her for a couple of minutes. Couldn't tell if there was a condom. Doubt that he finished because he went from screwing to back inside his pants and drinking his beer in about 5 seconds. After that, he acted just like every other monger in the bar. She went back to sliding around the shaving cream like it never happened.

No nasty tricks were played on that guy.

Captain Solo
05-23-15, 19:27
Went in HK after 8 PM. The place was packed. There were a lot of chicas. Just about all my favoritas were present. A few I have not seen in years also came back.

Esperancia, the little girl with her perfect body, was back, wearing her Zorro's mask. She passed out drunk one night and was carried out to a taxi by the big fat mesero.

A girl with a long name I have not seen in HK for a few years, came back. She had the most perfect pair of global boobs with tiny pink nipples, and used to flop them out of her top for admirers. She's light-skinned, blonde hair with a pretty face, wearing a nice black party dress. She speaks English well, with nice, polite, pleasant manners with her sweet smile. She was one of my favorites.

I came over to reacquaint. She plopped out her boobs to show me, but instead of a pair of perfect globes, they are now a pair of shriveled, pointy A cups. She probably had babies and the milk tissues inside her breasts collapsed. It's probable that the little brown guy, she was in love with, ran away after she had babies, and she had to come back to HK to work. I wanted her tel to schedule a future session but she declined, smiling broadly, asking me to take her upstairs before I can have her tel. She's such a good-looking, nice and sweet girl, that I have to take her up again.

Sasha had the same droopy boobs problem. But she's still a very beautiful girl and put up a very nice strip routine.

About midnight, a girl I have not seen for a few years, came back, It was Andrea. She still looked needy and latched onto me, wanting to go to the hotel. I had to turn her down, having no more ammo, and was ready to go home. Gave her a few $ propinas and sent her away.

The 2 wingmen had a great time in the club, buying cheap beers with their 2 for 1 coupons. Just give the coupons to the coat girl and she will quickly staple a receipt to them. The coupons no longer require lengthy manager's approval.

Uncle Al
05-24-15, 06:16
I kinda notice the quality of girls have gone down this weekend, not as crowed as the took out some of the tables on the first floor and redid the back dance area and having the 2 upstairs sections opened really helped.

I noticed a few of the HK girls with stretch marks from having kids. Just not same quality I've seen before.

Ill be back tonight free drinks then ill decide if I go to SW side or HK the to the taco cart and back to my hotel.

In town thru Tuesday.

Uncle Al
05-26-15, 03:23
Got there around 11 pm Saturday. They set me up with my free beers the place was packed, but only 2 or 3 really hot girls. Have the other, had my fun for a while then hit the taco stand stand on the corner.

Sunday a lot slower there and the upstairs was closed again as there renovating. Had a few beers and hit a SW for 200 pesos the the taco guy.

I did notice on Sunday trying to get a cab back to the border a bunch of cabs drivers were asking 70 pesos instead of 50 like the usual, I passed till I got a 50 pesos one.

Jackie888
05-26-15, 15:36
Got there around 11 pm Saturday. They set me up with my free beers the place was packed, but only 2 or 3 really hot girls. Have the other, had my fun for a while then hit the taco stand stand on the corner.

Sunday a lot slower there and the upstairs was closed again as there renovating. Had a few beers and hit a SW for 200 pesos the the taco guy.

I did notice on Sunday trying to get a cab back to the border a bunch of cabs drivers were asking 70 pesos instead of 50 like the usual, I passed till I got a 50 pesos one.If you received a free beer, you probably have a VIP card. With that card, you are entitled to a free limo / SUV ride back to the border. Just tell the doorman.

SBeach25
05-27-15, 04:47
Haven't posted on here for a while but I noticed recently that the rates for the rooms went up by $5 but the exchange rate they are using in both the hotel and bar are 13 to 1. This was this past weekend. Of course I paid in pesos but maybe the guy at the counter was still calculating the old exchange rate.

SBeach25
05-27-15, 04:57
I kinda notice the quality of girls have gone down this weekend, not as crowed as the took out some of the tables on the first floor and redid the back dance area and having the 2 upstairs sections opened really helped.

I noticed a few of the HK girls with stretch marks from having kids. Just not same quality I've seen before.

Ill be back tonight free drinks then ill decide if I go to SW side or HK the to the taco cart and back to my hotel.

In town thru Tuesday.I noticed that the quality has dropped after Christmas and has never rebounded. Sure I still see the same girls that I have banged before but normally there is a influx of new hot girls. I haven't seen any. Maybe I'm burned out and my requirements have gone up a notch or maybe Medellin has really spoiled it for me. I know I know, two different fruits. Still, the quality has not been the same. The ones that were hot have been wifed up. There was a couple who I don't see as much and only work when they need to earn some money or just broke up with their novio's and only to go back to them. Maybe now that summer is around the corner the girls will come back soon.

Tampopoarcade
05-27-15, 22:09
Mongers,

It's been a while since I've made a stealth mission to Tijuana, so I was wondering if I could get some insight on getting in and getting out.

I plan on parking my car at the border, then walking across. Has any taken the HK shuttle or pick up service that will take you to the hotel?

Once there I plan on reserving a room for the evening. Once I'm done with my mongering. What's the next step? Do I take a cab back to he border then cross back. Is it that simple? I've heard of nightmare stories about being stopped by the police for no reason and they would plant drugs in your pocket.

Any advice on logistics getting in or out would be welcomed.

Thank you

Gsil247
05-27-15, 23:08
Mongers,

It's been a while since I've made a stealth mission to Tijuana, so I was wondering if I could get some insight on getting in and getting out.

I plan on parking my car at the border, then walking across. Has any taken the HK shuttle or pick up service that will take you to the hotel?

Once there I plan on reserving a room for the evening. Once I'm done with my mongering. What's the next step? Do I take a cab back to he border then cross back. Is it that simple? I've heard of nightmare stories about being stopped by the police for no reason and they would plant drugs in your pocket.

Any advice on logistics getting in or out would be welcomed.

Thank youIt feels weird to offer advice but I now think I will be able to.

Yes, I've taken the ride they offer and it's a legit limo, not a car with a sound system. I tipped the driver $1, and he was cool. It's not like the commercials on YouTube where hot girls pull you in the limo. No one is inside. And when your about to leave, tell the girl at the counter you want the ride back. Same process. Get right into the line of the border, don't look around and make eye contact with the police and you'll be fine. Oh and, when you call, make sure it's an hour before you get to the hotel and call as soon as your walking to the gas station, where they pick you up at. It the only one across that bridge from the border.

Jackie888
05-27-15, 23:27
Mongers,

It's been a while since I've made a stealth mission to Tijuana, so I was wondering if I could get some insight on getting in and getting out.

I plan on parking my car at the border, then walking across. Has any taken the HK shuttle or pick up service that will take you to the hotel?

Once there I plan on reserving a room for the evening. Once I'm done with my mongering. What's the next step? Do I take a cab back to he border then cross back. Is it that simple? I've heard of nightmare stories about being stopped by the police for no reason and they would plant drugs in your pocket.

Any advice on logistics getting in or out would be welcomed.

Thank youTalks of shakedowns are overblown especially if you're not the foot explorer type which you don't seem to be. HK pickups are available in theory if you're a VIP member which you don't seem to be.

Go. Have fun. Take your cash and passport with you. Leave the Credit cards home. If you want to truly enjoy, sample the food, the beer, the dancing. Do more than just monger.

Captain Solo
05-27-15, 23:55
There are a lot of world-class beauties in the bars, especially Hong Kong, and in the alley. A lot more good-looking chicas than you can ever sample, even if you stay in La Zona for the whole month and screw full time.

Besides sex, Tijuana offers plenty of wholesome activities to visitors:

1. Concerts and shows at the plaza near the arch on Saturday.

2. Shopping trinkets and leather goods at the arch and Revolucion / Constitucion.

3. Hang out on Constitucion, South of La Zona, to see how average people live. Try to visit Mercado Hildago near Calle 6, where food and spices are sold.

4. Hang out at bars and clubs on Revolucion and Calle 4 to see how young Tijuana people party. Try Las Pulgas, a popular club on Revolucion, and let big, fat, old Mexicanas hit on you. Hehe. Well, I did find a few angelic-looking young chicas party and dance here.

5. Try a few restaurants outside of La Zona Norte, as reported in this forum. Ask your favorite chub or street girls to take you to their favorite restaurants, or hit the places recommended by a food-tour company in San Diego.

6. Take a collectivo from Ave Negrete to Rosarito Beach, only costs a few bucks. Take your favorite putas to Potpola or Puerto Nuevo fishing villages for lobster and possible subsequent sex on the beach.

7. Take a bus tour from the border to Ensenada, a nice clean, quiet beach town with normal Mexicans, not sex and bar touts. Deep-sea fishing party boat is about $50 per person, negotiable. I caught many Basses in the summer and big ling cods in the winter.

I am sure the other bros have more and better suggestions.

ScatManDoo
05-28-15, 00:07
HK pickups are available in theory if you're a VIP member which you don't seem to be.At the risk of having Jackie calling me a nit picker, I would like to correct this portion of his recent post.

HK sells a VIP card for $50 (or 650 pesos). It is good for four months and can be used to get a daily free drink in the bar, free rides to and from the border, discounts on rooms at Rizo de Oro and Casades, and a group of lessor benefits.

But it is not necessary to purchase a $50 VIP card in order to get a free drink or a free ride to or from the border. You just need to go to HK's website:

http://hktijuana.com/

And then click on the Free Coupon button. Currently they are offering four different coupons: One is a 2-for-one drink, another for a free ride from the border & return to the border, another for 2-for-one appetizers, and a fourth one that provides a half-priced lap dance in their privado rooms:

http://hktijuana.com/specials.php

Someone who purchases the $50 VIP card can use all of these benefits in a single night.

A coupon clipper that does not buy the VIP card can use only one of these coupons per day.

Here's a little tip: Whenever you use one of these coupons you will be asked to give them your e-mail address. If you do not buy a HK VIP card, and attempt to use more than one coupon in a single visit to HK, it's possible. Be sure to use each coupon with a generous amount of time in between coupon presentations. Use different meseros each time you present a coupon, and use the customer relations desk just once per day / visit, and Always provide a different e-mail address each time with each coupon you try to use.

Captain Solo
05-28-15, 00:16
Hong Kong's limousine VIP border pick up is a joke. They always get lost or delayed in traffic, taking 30 to 45 minutes to arrive. Sometimes it does not arrive at all.

Your calls to HK's 800 number are answered by the coat girls, Miriam or Perla. You can hear her hassle the driver on another phone line, but every time I call for the pick up limo, there was a long wait.

On the way back, it's much faster with the limousine waiting right in front of the club. Tell the coat girl, or the security manager, that you need a ride back to La Linea. They will check your VIP card and send the driver. It will drop you off at the taxi stand about half a mile from the border entry.

Jackie888
05-28-15, 03:11
Hey I didn't know about the Coupons and Fat Mexican Cougars.

That was good info.

Exoticspirit
05-28-15, 03:49
Hong Kong's limousine VIP border pick up is a joke. They always get lost or delayed in traffic, taking 30 to 45 minutes to arrive. Sometimes it does not arrive at all.

Your calls to HK's 800 number are answered by the coat girls, Miriam or Perla. You can hear her hassle the driver on another phone line, but every time I call for the pick up limo, there was a long wait.

On the way back, it's much faster with the limousine waiting right in front of the club. Tell the coat girl, or the security manager, that you need a ride back to La Linea. They will check your VIP card and send the driver. It will drop you off at the taxi stand about half a mile from the border entry.If I have a reservation at Cascadas hotel for one night and not buy the HK VIP card, would I still be able to get the free pickup from the border say on a Wednesday morning (I plan to stay at Cascadas that night) and then get a free ride back to the border on the Thursday?

ScatManDoo
05-28-15, 04:56
Mercado Hildago is no where near Constitution, and also not on 6th street. Mercado Hildago is located on Sancho Trabado, in between the east ends of 9th street and 10th street.

One block outside of La Zona, on the southwest corner of 2nd and Constitution, it the historical museum of Tijuana.

I don't know about a lot of good clubs located on 4th street near Revolution. It is my understanding that the very good, and very hot & new clubs are on Sexta (6th street next to Revo.). However Sexata is for a younger crowd, great for my 20 year-old son, but not for some fat old past-middle-age guy, like myself.

If you like fish, Tijuana's fish district is three and four blocks east of Revo, also on 6th street. There's even a couple of good seafood restaurants within the fish district (my favorite is at the east end of the fish district).

A more convenient place from LZ (instead of Negrete) to get on the collectivos going to the beach (Playas) is on third street, immediately west of Nino Heroes. Collectivos charge 12.5 pesos per person each way (the equivalent of 85 cents at current exchange rates). You will know that you reached Playas when you see the large Bullring.

Hey, why not go to see a bullfight? The bullfighting season typically runs from May thru September, but I don't know exact details of the 2015 season. In the past they occurred nearly every Sunday afternoon at the "Bullring by the Sea" since the downtown bullring was closed years ago. Here's the website for the bullring to you can see the schedule, all I saw scheduled for this month was a pair of concerts:

www.plazamonumental.com

Tijuana has an official city baseball teams called the Toros. They play at Gasmart Stadium, which was totally renovated two years ago. Often you can get free tickets at Gasmart locations. Tijuana also has a soccer team called the Xolos. I believe their season is currently over, but it is a long season that might start up again in late August.

Around three to four miles east and north of La Zona is Plaza Rio, which is the largest upscale area in Tijuana. It contains an excellent mix of moderate to plush stores and vendors and several movie theaters, including the Cinepolis VIP that provides cushy loves seats and waitress service that includes alcoholic drinks and sushi (although I'm told that the Cinepolis at the Hippodrom, and even Playas, are better than the one at Plaza Rio).

For a cultural experience, or other decent entertainment, one of the better places to go in Tijuana outside of La Zona is CECUT (Central Cultural Tijuana). It is two short blocks North of Mercado Hildago. They have an IMAX theater and other theaters, including a very nice playhouse as well as a museum dedicated to the history of Baja Mexico in that complex. They also have an aquarium in CECUT. It is the cultural center right next to Plaza Rio. This is their website:

http://www.cecut.gob.mx/imax.php#e3333.

Caliente has a very large gambling casino on the west side of Revolution between 2nd and 3rd street.

One the next block, between 3rd and 4th street is Caesars, a large hotel, fine dining restaurant and nightclub. The restaurant makes the claim of inventing the Caesar's salad.

It seems that every month there is one or two food or booze expos or festival events where one or more blocks of Revolution are closed to auto traffic.

One the pedestrian path, directly across from Piri pharmacy, is the Tijuana Wax Museum (Museo de Cero). Is contains likenesses of former US and Mexican presidents, entertainers, historical images, including some fairly gory images. If you've already been to the Hollywood Wax museum, you will not be impressed.

Captain Solo
05-28-15, 07:32
You can use the free pick up coupon in HK's web site. Print it out and hand it to the driver.

Print out dozens of 2 drinks for 1 price too. They come in handy. If you don't need the extra drink, give it to a thirsty friend. Or give out the coupons to heavy drinkers. That can make you immensely popular. Hehe.


If I have a reservation at Cascadas hotel for one night and not buy the HK VIP card, would I still be able to get the free pickup from the border say on a Wednesday morning (I plan to stay at Cascadas that night) and then get a free ride back to the border on the Thursday?

Captain Solo
05-28-15, 07:50
Lots of guys feel cheap clipping HK's coupons, but HK now charges $5 for a beer, so we have to find every way to beat the greed out of them. Besides, VIP's have to go through the same procedure to get their free drinks anyway. And chicas all collect these fichas to cash in at the end of their shift.

There are young, good-looking girls partying in clubs on Revo and 4th. You can buy a bucket of beers, order some snacks, then invite the girls over for drinks, if you want to spend time and money flirting. If you are a smooth talker you may get lucky. It's hard to fuck a Mexican civie on the first date.

But these old, obese women in Tijuana's clubs are seriously disgusting. Since you are such a guapo guy and a smooth talker, perhaps you can convince a few to go back to the hotel for the night.


Hey I didn't know about the Coupons and Fat Mexican Cougars.

That was good info.

Jackie888
05-28-15, 17:58
Mercado Hildago is no where near Constitution, and also not on 6th street. Mercado Hildago is located on Sancho Trabado, in between the east ends of 9th street and 10th street.

One block outside of La Zona, on the southwest corner of 2nd and Constitution, it the historical museum of Tijuana.

I don't know about a lot of good clubs located on 4th street near Revolution. It is my understanding that the very good, and very hot & new clubs are on Sexta (6th street next to Revo.). However Sexata is for a younger crowd, great for my 20 year-old son, but not for some fat old past-middle-age guy, like myself.

If you like fish, Tijuana's fish district is three and four blocks east of Revo, also on 6th street. There's even a couple of good seafood restaurants within the fish district (my favorite is at the east end of the fish district).

A more convenient place from LZ (instead of Negrete) to get on the collectivos going to the beach (Playas) is on third street, immediately west of Nino Heroes. Collectivos charge 12.5 pesos per person each way (the equivalent of 85 cents at current exchange rates). You will know that you reached Playas when you see the large Bullring.

Hey, why not go to see a bullfight? The bullfighting season typically runs from May thru September, but I don't know exact details of the 2015 season. In the past they occurred nearly every Sunday afternoon at the "Bullring by the Sea" since the downtown bullring was closed years ago. Here's the website for the bullring to you can see the schedule, all I saw scheduled for this month was a pair of concerts:

www.plazamonumental.com

Tijuana has an official city baseball teams called the Toros. They play at Gasmart Stadium, which was totally renovated two years ago. Often you can get free tickets at Gasmart locations. Tijuana also has a soccer team called the Xolos. I believe their season is currently over, but it is a long season that might start up again in late August.

Around three to four miles east and north of La Zona is Plaza Rio, which is the largest upscale area in Tijuana. It contains an excellent mix of moderate to plush stores and vendors and several movie theaters, including the Cinepolis VIP that provides cushy loves seats and waitress service that includes alcoholic drinks and sushi (although I'm told that the Cinepolis at the Hippodrom, and even Playas, are better than the one at Plaza Rio).

For a cultural experience, or other decent entertainment, one of the better places to go in Tijuana outside of La Zona is CECUT (Central Cultural Tijuana). It is two short blocks North of Mercado Hildago. They have an IMAX theater and other theaters, including a very nice playhouse as well as a museum dedicated to the history of Baja Mexico in that complex. They also have an aquarium in CECUT. It is the cultural center right next to Plaza Rio. This is their website:

http://www.cecut.gob.mx/imax.php#e3333.

Caliente has a very large gambling casino on the west side of Revolution between 2nd and 3rd street.

One the next block, between 3rd and 4th street is Caesars, a large hotel, fine dining restaurant and nightclub. The restaurant makes the claim of inventing the Caesar's salad.

It seems that every month there is one or two food or booze expos or festival events where one or more blocks of Revolution are closed to auto traffic.

One the pedestrian path, directly across from Piri pharmacy, is the Tijuana Wax Museum (Museo de Cero). Is contains likenesses of former US and Mexican presidents, entertainers, historical images, including some fairly gory images. If you've already been to the Hollywood Wax museum, you will not be impressed.Excellent and should be pinned to the board of distinction.

Jackie888
05-28-15, 18:00
There are a lot of world-class beauties in the bars, especially Hong Kong, and in the alley. A lot more good-looking chicas than you can ever sample, even if you stay in La Zona for the whole month and screw full time.

Besides sex, Tijuana offers plenty of wholesome activities to visitors:

1. Concerts and shows at the plaza near the arch on Saturday.

2. Shopping trinkets and leather goods at the arch and Revolucion / Constitucion.

3. Hang out on Constitucion, South of La Zona, to see how average people live. Try to visit Mercado Hildago near Calle 6, where food and spices are sold.

4. Hang out at bars and clubs on Revolucion and Calle 4 to see how young Tijuana people party. Try Las Pulgas, a popular club on Revolucion, and let big, fat, old Mexicanas hit on you. Hehe. Well, I did find a few angelic-looking young chicas party and dance here.

5. Try a few restaurants outside of La Zona Norte, as reported in this forum. Ask your favorite chub or street girls to take you to their favorite restaurants, or hit the places recommended by a food-tour company in San Diego.

6. Take a collectivo from Ave Negrete to Rosarito Beach, only costs a few bucks. Take your favorite putas to Potpola or Puerto Nuevo fishing villages for lobster and possible subsequent sex on the beach.

7. Take a bus tour from the border to Ensenada, a nice clean, quiet beach town with normal Mexicans, not sex and bar touts. Deep-sea fishing party boat is about $50 per person, negotiable. I caught many Basses in the summer and big ling cods in the winter.

I am sure the other bros have more and better suggestions.Execelent and should be pinnd to the board of distinction.

Exoticspirit
05-28-15, 18:00
Mercado Hildago is no where near Constitution, and also not on 6th street. Mercado Hildago is located on Sancho Trabado, in between the east ends of 9th street and 10th street.

One block outside of La Zona, on the southwest corner of 2nd and Constitution, it the historical museum of Tijuana.

Great list of tourist ideas. Do you normally just walk to these areas from LZ (if within walking distance) or cab it everywhere?

Jackie888
05-28-15, 18:02
But these old, obese women in Tijuana's clubs are seriously disgusting. Since you are such a guapo guy and a smooth talker, perhaps you can convince a few to go back to the hotel for the night.Don't ever underestimate a short little Asian guy!

But don't tempt me! I've already disclosed that I'm a Chubbie-virgin.

Captain Solo
05-28-15, 18:19
Remember to tie a 2 x 4 to your waist before diving in their huge and bottomless holes. Hehe.


Don't ever underestimate a short little Asian guy!

But don't tempt me! I've already disclosed that I'm a Chubbie-virgin.

Captain Solo
05-28-15, 18:45
You are right that the scared cats way over blow policia's shakedowns and security risks in Tijuana.

I have been going to Tijuana for 15 years, sometimes 2, 3 times a week, driving and walking, most times by myself, and have not been robbed or had my pocket lifted in all those years. OTOH I had been robbed at gun point in Hollywood, money stolen at LAX, wallet stolen by a pretty young girl in Manhattan. So Tijuana may well be safer than major US cities.

Back in about 2005 I was stopped and shaken down a few times by policia, but I never gave them anything, and they just let me go.

In my personal experiences, Tijuana is definitely safer than downtown LOS Angeles, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Sao Paolo, Bangkok, Phuket, Manila, Jakarta, Hanoi, HCMC, Chong Ping, Guang Zhou and other big cities.

Tijuana's downtown and tourist areas are safe in the daytime. At night, limit walking to around the bars and clubs on Coahuila. Just don't walk alone at night into dark alleys where druggies may hide out to rob anyone. Carry small amount of cash and an ATM card with $500 or $1000 limit to minimize potential losses.


Talks of shakedowns are overblown especially if you're not the foot explorer type which you don't seem to be. HK pickups are available in theory if you're a VIP member which you don't seem to be.

Go. Have fun. Take your cash and passport with you. Leave the Credit cards home. If you want to truly enjoy, sample the food, the beer, the dancing. Do more than just monger.

ScatManDoo
05-28-15, 19:12
Great list of tourist ideas. Do you normally just walk to these areas from LZ (if within walking distance) or cab it everywhere?I do a good amount of walking in LZ and Centro, but I typically don't walk south of 9th street, north of Baja California, east of Madero or west of Martinez (where the weekend swap meet is conducted). On most trips to LZ the farthest I walk outside LZ is to the swap meet or down Revo to about 4th street looking for the one carton of cigarettes I bring back with me on every trip. I don't smoke cigarettes myself, but at $27 to $30 a carton from most of the Revo street vendors, I know many people in the OC that appreciate me picking up a carton for them.

I have older cars and drive them into Tijuana. I park at HDS or Leyva when I stay at those hotels, or at Pepe's when I'm staying at Cascades or other Zona hotels. When I go to Tijuana I stay at hotels in LZ, but I drive all over Tijuana and occasionally to Ensenada. Plaza Rio, the Mercado Hildago and the gastronomic district are too far IMO to pleasantly walk to from LZ. When I drive outside of LZ my quasi-wingman usually tags along since he is usually happy to get out of LZ for an hour or two. He comes in handy a lot of the time since he speaks fluent Spanish. My Spanish sucks.

A couple more tourist places in Tijuana: if you have kids, its a good idea to take them to Mundo Divertivo. It's pretty far from LZ, maybe 8 to 10 miles. It's a kid's orientated amusement park, sort of like a large Boomers.

Another fun place to spend half a day is Parke Morales. QW and I took a couple of LZ chicas there in my car two or three years ago. It is a very large park with a few food vendors and a few carnival type rides. We went and had a picnic, like hundreds of other couples were doing there. Parke Morales also contains a small free admission zoo.

China 69
05-29-15, 04:51
You are right that the scared cats way over blow policia's shakedowns and security risks in Tijuana.
Hey Captain, nice to see you in the Alley last Saturday night! I will be there next week Wed-Sun, look me up.

Yea, I just got pulled over in my car last night. They just wanted to know where I was going, where I was coming from, and was I drinking. All good and they let me go. Nothing to be scared about.

Captain Solo
05-29-15, 05:09
Very nice seeing you in the alley. I hope to hooked up with that chica you were waiting for. Tell us all about her.

I think you spend lots of time in Tijuana, a lot more than guys I know, dealing with bar girls, street girls, escorts, policias etc. You have a lot of good info that could help us interpret what Tijuana is all about and deal with it. I wish you would post a lot more so we can dissect, enjoy and learn from your boots-on-the-ground experiences.

I bought Cosco's Mexico driver insurance, only $100 a year. I have been driving all over Tijuana, exploring. Traffic is slow and orderly. I had no problems.

Please post more of your raw info in Tijuana. I know you well enough to trust your info are reliable. We can use your info to enjoy Tijuana more.


Hey Captain, nice to see you in the Alley last Saturday night! I will be there next week Wed-Sun, look me up.

Yea, I just got pulled over in my car last night. They just wanted to know where I was going, where I was coming from, and was I drinking. All good and they let me go. Nothing to be scared about.