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GolfSexRroll
05-29-15, 05:34
You are right that the scared cats way over blow policia's shakedowns and security risks in Tijuana.

I have been going to Tijuana for 15 years, sometimes 2, 3 times a week, driving and walking, most times by myself, and have not been robbed or had my pocket lifted in all those years. OTOH I had been robbed at gun point in Hollywood, money stolen at LAX, wallet stolen by a pretty young girl in Manhattan. So Tijuana may well be safer than major US cities.

Back in about 2005 I was stopped and shaken down a few times by policia, but I never gave them anything, and they just let me go.

In my personal experiences, Tijuana is definitely safer than downtown LOS Angeles, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Sao Paolo, Bangkok, Phuket, Manila, Jakarta, Hanoi, HCMC, Chong Ping, Guang Zhou and other big cities.

Tijuana's downtown and tourist areas are safe in the daytime. At night, limit walking to around the bars and clubs on Coahuila. Just don't walk alone at night into dark alleys where druggies may hide out to rob anyone. Carry small amount of cash and an ATM card with $500 or $1000 limit to minimize potential losses.Captain. I have to agree with you on this! I too feel that Tijuana gets a bad rap. I have been (and lived) in many large cities. Tijuana is not that bad. My amiga says that American's are afraid to come to Mexico because of the cartels and the killings. Well shit happens everywhere. I was shot at in Miami. I went through RIOTS in Miami and LA. I have seen more pure cocaine from Columbia than any cartel in Mexico. AS anywhere you need to keep your head and be careful. But to be afraid to travel is a shame, and to those who shit their pants easily- they should STAY HOME!

Phordphan
05-29-15, 06:55
4. Hang out at bars and clubs on Revolucion and Calle 4 to see how young Tijuana people party. Try Las Pulgas, a popular club on Revolucion, and let big, fat, old Mexicanas hit on you. Hehe. Well, I did find a few angelic-looking young chicas party and dance here.

5. Try a few restaurants outside of La Zona Norte, as reported in this forum. Ask your favorite chub or street girls to take you to their favorite restaurants, or hit the places recommended by a food-tour company in San Diego.

6. Take a collectivo from Ave Negrete to Rosarito Beach, only costs a few bucks. Take your favorite putas to Potpola or Puerto Nuevo fishing villages for lobster and possible subsequent sex on the beach.Honestly. How much of this have you actually done? (That's a rhetorical question). More to the point, why would you suggest to a newbie something you know nothing about, or things that are just patently ridiculous?

When did you go to a bar on 4th and Revu, buy a bucket and have Mexican chicks, fat or otherwise, hit on you? We'll ignore the fact that there are no clubs on 4th near Revu. Have you ever been to Las Pulgas on a Saturday? (Again, rhetorical because you don't leave the safety of Coahuila at night). At night there is a line down the block of young girls dressed in stiletto heels and club wear waiting to get inside. There's a line because the place is already packed with bunches just like them.

Have you been to Popotla? Sex on the beach? Somebody may actually take you seriously, and boy will they be in for a disappointment.

Dude, stick to what you know.

GolfSexRroll
05-29-15, 11:33
Honestly. How much of this have you actually done? (That's a rhetorical question). More to the point, why would you suggest to a newbie something you know nothing about, or things that are just patently ridiculous?

When did you go to a bar on 4th and Revu, buy a bucket and have Mexican chicks, fat or otherwise, hit on you? We'll ignore the fact that there are no clubs on 4th near Revu. Have you ever been to Las Pulgas on a Saturday? (Again, rhetorical because you don't leave the safety of Coahuila at night). At night there is a line down the block of young girls dressed in stiletto heels and club wear waiting to get inside. There's a line because the place is already packed with bunches just like them.

Have you been to Popotla? Sex on the beach? Somebody may actually take you seriously, and boy will they be in for a disappointment.

Dude, stick to what you know.From your history of Quotes over the years, you do not venture out of the "safety" of La Zona at night! God forbid walking past Primera to get to Centro. Las Pulgas is PACKED with HOT / YOUNG local senioritas on a weekend!

Captain Solo
05-29-15, 12:23
I went to these clubs a few times, partying with my wing men and the guys posting on the other site.

I don't recommend newbies to walk off Coahuila's pussy block at night by themselves. However, I have walked and driven on Revolution and Constitution many times at night, 8 or 9 PM when there are still lots of people on the street. I would never recommend walking that area later at night when the good people went home and only criminals stayed behind.

There may be a few young, attractive girls at Las Pulgas, but they party with their young friends. It's hard to break into their parties. Even if you mange to break in, you would waste your whole night playing their little games and not guaranteed pussy at the end.

At least when I was there, Las Pulgas had many older, unattractive women, some even disgustingly obese, sitting by themselves with their buckets, giving everyone their inviting eyes. Guys who can tolerate old, ugly women could pick them up and fuck them for free if they can muster up their courage.

Everything is possible in these clubs, but I prefer the high probability of quick, successive scoring with many good-looking chicas in La Zona. Why waste time and money and insult your good taste with these old, ugly women?


From your history of Quotes over the years, you do not venture out of the "safety" of La Zona at night! God forbid walking past Primera to get to Centro. Las Pulgas is PACKED with HOT / YOUNG local senioritas on a weekend!

Captain Solo
05-29-15, 18:30
I know a few guys who spend a lot of time in Tijuana, some speak fluent Spanish, and personally know a lot putas and people who run restaurants and hotels in La Zona.

These guys have a lot of good info and lots of interesting stories to tell. However, they are reluctant to post because a few guys, who think they know everything, would make groundless accusations and call them liars for anything outside of their knowledge. That creates a lot of friction, anger and resentment.

If these guy don't know something, it does not mean it did not happen. If they cannot achieve something, it does not mean others cannot do it, more like they are just too old, rude, stupid to do it.

You can argue facts with your own facts, but don't call others liars unless you have clear proof. That is just very stupid and rude ways to deal with people.

Big liars are always assuming others are also lying.

The Tall Man
06-01-15, 16:10
I went to these clubs a few times, partying with my wing men and the guys posting on the other site.

I don't recommend newbies to walk off Coahuila's pussy block at night by themselves. However, I have walked and driven on Revolution and Constitution many times at night, 8 or 9 PM when there are still lots of people on the street. I would never recommend walking that area later at night when the good people went home and only criminals stayed behind.

There may be a few young, attractive girls at Las Pulgas, but they party with their young friends. It's hard to break into their parties. Even if you mange to break in, you would waste your whole night playing their little games and not guaranteed pussy at the end.

At least when I was there, Las Pulgas had many older, unattractive women, some even disgustingly obese, sitting by themselves with their buckets, giving everyone their inviting eyes. Guys who can tolerate old, ugly women could pick them up and fuck them for free if they can muster up their courage.

Everything is possible in these clubs, but I prefer the high probability of quick, successive scoring with many good-looking chicas in La Zona. Why waste time and money and insult your good taste with these old, ugly women?From your lips to Gods ears, perfectly said!

The Tall Man.

Captain Solo
06-01-15, 17:02
I appreciate your understanding.


From your lips to Gods ears, perfectly said!

The Tall Man.

Neworlean
06-04-15, 06:09
Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out. My really problem is the girls. They are asking 80 for a half hour and 100 l for an hour and you pay about 20 for the room so that's 100 a pop. Seem expensive for a 3rd world country. The other things was that there seems to be a shortage of really hot girls. Once you seem them the next morning you are like dam wtf was I thinging. Most HK girls are very fair skin with implants but not really hot. As a Vip member if you go on a Sunday to Wednesday you only pay 25 a night. They will put you up on a higher floor with where many of the girls live while working at HK. The really benefit is you see them coming in and getting ready. Thry are often willing to negotiate because it's off time and bonus money. The bad is you see then in the morning with no make up in the day light and they don't look so hot. Seems like HK is getting expensive and the quality is dropping. I wish there was a way we could make the girls realize money is the scarce commodity. Brought a drink for an old friend and she said that she that 100 was a good value since guys in the US pay 300 at home. It is what it is but Tijuana is starting to feel like a rip off. You are probably better off flying somewhere else for a few days. 2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room. 3rd Avoid all of the guys approaching you. They don't actually have an hookups. 4th. The waiters are annoying. 5th. HK is renovating the bar so one of them is closed. 6th If you are going to take a girl, take a club girl. It just really seems like the quality at HK has gone down and the price has gone up. Would be nice of quality matched price. Just a personal opinion but I think as the world economy improves all the pretty girls will find better lines of work and pay for play will decline. Just look at the last five years. Save your money and go to the Phillipines or Colombia and spend a few days doing it right.

Phordphan
06-04-15, 07:22
Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out. My really problem is the girls. They are asking 80 for a half hour and 100 l for an hour and you pay about 20 for the room so that's 100 a pop. Seem expensive for a 3rd world country. The other things was that there seems to be a shortage of really hot girls. Once you seem them the next morning you are like dam wtf was I thinging. Most HK girls are very fair skin with implants but not really hot. As a Vip member if you go on a Sunday to Wednesday you only pay 25 a night. They will put you up on a higher floor with where many of the girls live while working at HK. The really benefit is you see them coming in and getting ready. Thry are often willing to negotiate because it's off time and bonus money. The bad is you see then in the morning with no make up in the day light and they don't look so hot. Seems like HK is getting expensive and the quality is dropping. I wish there was a way we could make the girls realize money is the scarce commodity. Brought a drink for an old friend and she said that she that 100 was a good value since guys in the US pay 300 at home. It is what it is but Tijuana is starting to feel like a rip off. You are probably better off flying somewhere else for a few days. 2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room. 3rd Avoid all of the guys approaching you. They don't actually have an hookups. 4th. The waiters are annoying. 5th. HK is renovating the bar so one of them is closed. 6th If you are going to take a girl, take a club girl. It just really seems like the quality at HK has gone down and the price has gone up. Would be nice of quality matched price. Just a personal opinion but I think as the world economy improves all the pretty girls will find better lines of work and pay for play will decline. Just look at the last five years. Save your money and go to the Phillipines or Colombia and spend a few days doing it right.Wait, we are reliably informed, by some Captain, that the Zona Norte is the safest place in Tijuana and that you should never leave it after 9 PM. And that HK girls are model quality. I think you must be thinking of the wrong Tijuana.

But, seriously, HK girls really are no bargain these days. And it's true that as the economies of other places improves, the girls find other lines of work.

ScatManDoo
06-04-15, 07:23
Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out.The shootout this Wednesday afternoon was very bad, one guy killed and two others wounded. I believe this happened near Primera & Constitution.

On Tuesday night a Tijuana Policia was shot & killed. So yes, there is going to be a lot more Policia presence in LZ.


2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room.The key with street girls is to know what you want ahead of time, and then negotiating the details on the sidewalk before taking her into the room. You can't always eliminate all problems, but it helps minimize them. It's always better to deal with them on the sidewalk, where you have the upper hand vs. In the room, where they have some advantages.

GolfSexRroll
06-04-15, 07:36
Wait, we are reliably informed, by some Captain, that the Zona Norte is the safest place in Tijuana and that you should never leave it after 9 PM. And that HK girls are model quality. I think you must be thinking of the wrong Tijuana. ;)

But, seriously, HK girls really are no bargain these days. And it's true that as the economies of other places improves, the girls find other lines of work.Hey Captain: Where else in the Zona do you have as much MORTAL action? Shootings in the past few months at Malcarida (Sp?) ,Playboy club and now in the alley? Primera is a walk in the park!

Jackie888
06-04-15, 17:47
Wait, we are reliably informed, by some Captain, that the Zona Norte is the safest place in Tijuana and that you should never leave it after 9 PM. And that HK girls are model quality. I think you must be thinking of the wrong Tijuana. ;)

But, seriously, HK girls really are no bargain these days. And it's true that as the economies of other places improves, the girls find other lines of work.The poster would probably have more luck on this particular visit had he visited on a Friday-Saturday where the selection of women triples that of Su-Wed. The discounted room rates reflects the fewer availability as well as fewer visitors. But I have actually met models at HK who showed me some of their works. They were actually models.

Speaking of price hikes, I noticed the same right after the new year. I wonder whether the girls all ban together to test the price ceiling every other quarter. A bi-annual price adjustment seems probable.

Re the violence, the zona is where deportees are dropped off. They have no papers henceforth unable to be employed legitimately in Mexico. Those with criminal backgrounds return to what they do best. And those without, soon become criminals to survive. Mixed that with the current criminals protecting their turf, I am surprised that there arent more of these turf wars going on.

FlapJacK
06-04-15, 20:52
The shootout this Wednesday afternoon was very bad, one guy killed and two others wounded. I believe this happened near Primera & Constitution.

On Tuesday night a Tijuana Policia was shot & killed. So yes, there is going to be a lot more Policia presence in LZ.

The key with street girls is to know what you want ahead of time, and then negotiating the details on the sidewalk before taking her into the room. You can't always eliminate all problems, but it helps minimize them. It's always better to deal with them on the sidewalk, where you have the upper hand vs. In the room, where they have some advantages.Still safer than detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, Oakland, Memphis, Atlanta, Baltimore, Stockton, Cleveland.

The Tall Man
06-06-15, 19:09
Having been to HK and the aera many times I have to say this trip was disappointing. First, there was a shooting today and the police have blocked off both main street. Three guys starting fighting then all of a sudden they pull out guns and start shooting. It looked horrific tonight. One was taken into custody the others in an ambulance. Someone said it was a fight over who should run the strip. Police were everywhere. Truth be told bad things can happen anywhere. I wouldn't avoid Tijuana over a shooting. More cops will probably be out. My really problem is the girls. They are asking 80 for a half hour and 100 l for an hour and you pay about 20 for the room so that's 100 a pop. Seem expensive for a 3rd world country. The other things was that there seems to be a shortage of really hot girls. Once you seem them the next morning you are like dam wtf was I thinging. Most HK girls are very fair skin with implants but not really hot. As a Vip member if you go on a Sunday to Wednesday you only pay 25 a night. They will put you up on a higher floor with where many of the girls live while working at HK. The really benefit is you see them coming in and getting ready. Thry are often willing to negotiate because it's off time and bonus money. The bad is you see then in the morning with no make up in the day light and they don't look so hot. Seems like HK is getting expensive and the quality is dropping. I wish there was a way we could make the girls realize money is the scarce commodity. Brought a drink for an old friend and she said that she that 100 was a good value since guys in the US pay 300 at home. It is what it is but Tijuana is starting to feel like a rip off. You are probably better off flying somewhere else for a few days. 2nd. Street girls avoid them. You are more likely to have a problem with them and pay the same amount after all of their extra fees and fighting in the room. 3rd Avoid all of the guys approaching you. They don't actually have an hookups. 4th. The waiters are annoying. 5th. HK is renovating the bar so one of them is closed. 6th If you are going to take a girl, take a club girl. It just really seems like the quality at HK has gone down and the price has gone up. Would be nice of quality matched price. Just a personal opinion but I think as the world economy improves all the pretty girls will find better lines of work and pay for play will decline. Just look at the last five years. Save your money and go to the Phillipines or Colombia and spend a few days doing it right.Having been visiting the Zona for almost 20 years I too have had spells of fu*k it, then I realize that I need to accept it for what it is.

Its like the saying "an expectation is only a resentment in the making". Have no expectations on the quality or level of services from the girls on my trip and I always come out better in the end.

The Tall Man.

Tampopoarcade
06-07-15, 01:19
Having been visiting the Zona for almost 20 years I too have had spells of fu*k it, then I realize that I need to accept it for what it is.

Its like the saying "an expectation is only a resentment in the making". Have no expectations on the quality or level of services from the girls on my trip and I always come out better in the end.

The Tall Man.How was the Zona thus weekend? After the shooting? Was it back to normal, I plan on making my stealth trip to HK next weekend for my report.

SBeach25
06-07-15, 16:45
How was the Zona thus weekend? After the shooting? Was it back to normal, I plan on making my stealth trip to HK next weekend for my report.I was there when another shoot out began. After about 4 hours the place was back to normal. They don't want seeing tourist people seeing the chaos and bad rep so they will clean it up ASAP.

SBeach25
06-07-15, 16:53
Having been visiting the Zona for almost 20 years I too have had spells of fu*k it, then I realize that I need to accept it for what it is.

Its like the saying "an expectation is only a resentment in the making". Have no expectations on the quality or level of services from the girls on my trip and I always come out better in the end.

The Tall Man.Yes, I too had enough of this high price. I normally now get a favorite from other places like the TB or AB and sometimes a SG. All give me the exact quality and better than HK for a fair price. These girls will walk away if I try to counter offer because they've been spoiled by some stupid asians who don't have game in the States so they try and wife these girls here. At best, I now use escorts, much better time and quality service. Yeah, sometimes there are new girls I want to try so its like buying a new car, you will need to pay the premium just to be one of the first drive that pussy.

The Cane
06-07-15, 17:56
The bad is you see them in the morning with no make up in the daylight, and they don't look so hot.This reminded me of a post I just made in another thread. See what you guys been jerking off to? LOLOLOL!

http://funnie.st/309/p0rnstars-without-makeup/

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/33-startling-photos-of-pornstars-with-and-without-their-make

It's all just an illusion! Even with your favorite tutes LOL!

Tampopoarcade
06-08-15, 03:37
I heard that you should get a table upstairs where all the girls come out of the make room? Any truth to that? How much does it cost to get a table or via table? Or should we go to a deltas?

SBeach25
06-08-15, 04:10
I heard that you should get a table upstairs where all the girls come out of the make room? Any truth to that? How much does it cost to get a table or via table? Or should we go to a deltas?There is no cost, some like to catch a girl fresh before she gets on the floor and disappears.

GolfSexRroll
06-08-15, 06:00
I was there when another shoot out began. After about 4 hours the place was back to normal. They don't want seeing tourist people seeing the chaos and bad rep so they will clean it up ASAP.I was talking to my Favorita. She said on Wednesday the shooting at the end of the alley and Constitution was crazy. One dealer killed, one chico wounded, and one paradita was shot in the leg. She said the police detained her for questioning, saying she was involved. The SG said she was just "working" and not involved. Her amiga took her to the hospital. My fav said Americano's are scared shitless to go to the Zona! Business is BAD!

Phordphan
06-08-15, 06:09
I was talking to my Favorita. She said on Wednesday the shooting at the end of the alley and Constitution was crazy. One dealer killed, one chico wounded, and one paradita was shot in the leg. She said the police detained her for questioning, saying she was involved. The SG said she was just "working" and not involved. Her amiga took her to the hospital. My fav said Americano's are scared shitless to go to the Zona! Business is BAD!What? I have it on good authority that the Zona is the safest place in Tijuana, and it's the rest of the city you don't want to be in after 9:00.

ArribaPerro
06-08-15, 06:09
Yes, I too had enough of this high price. I normally now get a favorite from other places like the TB or AB and sometimes a SG. All give me the exact quality and better than HK for a fair price. These girls will walk away if I try to counter offer because they've been spoiled by some stupid asians who don't have game in the States so they try and wife these girls here. At best, I now use escorts, much better time and quality service. Yeah, sometimes there are new girls I want to try so its like buying a new car, you will need to pay the premium just to be one of the first drive that pussy.The other side of the coin regarding high price is that it attracts a lot of new girls into becoming putas from all over Mexico. It's like the modern gold rush where prospectors hearing of riches flooded into mining towns trying to pan for gold. Similarly, the chicas hear about getting easy $60 to $80 for a less than 30 minute bang in the room and they're thinking they can make hundreds a week, or thousands a month compared to their minimum wage reality in Mexico.

In reality, the new and pretty chicas will make the "big" money early on, but she quickly loses her popularity as the constant onslaught of new girls come in to take mongers' attentions. Also, ficha requirements can gradually cause weight gain that make these chicas undesirable.

The price point in HK Tijuana is moderate, priced to what the market will bear. Still affordable to the average Joe, which represents the biggest volume of the market, and who only makes a trip to Tijuana once a week.

GolfSexRroll
06-08-15, 06:25
What? I have it on good authority that the Zona is the safest place in Tijuana, and it's the rest of the city you don't want to be in after 9:00.I asked my amiga if she was sure it was what she thought she saw! She was sure it was a gunshot. She was sure there was a dead man!. She was sure there was an innocent paradita that was shot. It was in the afternoon, with the sun out. Way before nightfall. I guess the alley is not as safe as other parts of Tijuana. It is just a sad situation now, with the "local" cartels and local culprits!

TomJackin
06-08-15, 06:33
I asked my amiga if she was sure it was what she thought she saw! She was sure it was a gunshot. She was sure there was a dead man!. She was sure there was an innocent paradita that was shot. It was in the afternoon, with the sun out. Way before nightfall. I guess the alley is not as safe as other parts of Tijuana. It is just a sad situation now, with the "local" cartels and local culprits!Sounds like they were preparing for the election day!

There was another shooting at the swap meet, just down the road from Bar New York.

Damn, I'm sure glad that guns are illegal in Mexico!

Exoticspirit
06-08-15, 14:18
The other side of the coin regarding high price is that it attracts a lot of new girls into becoming putas from all over Mexico. It's like the modern gold rush where prospectors hearing of riches flooded into mining towns trying to pan for gold. Similarly, the chicas hear about getting easy $60 to $80 for a less than 30 minute bang in the room and they're thinking they can make hundreds a week, or thousands a month compared to their minimum wage reality in Mexico.

In reality, the new and pretty chicas will make the "big" money early on, but she quickly loses her popularity as the constant onslaught of new girls come in to take mongers' attentions. Also, ficha requirements can gradually cause weight gain that make these chicas undesirable.

The price point in HK Tijuana is moderate, priced to what the market will bear. Still affordable to the average Joe, which represents the biggest volume of the market, and who only makes a trip to Tijuana once a week.When I get there in September, I will offer $60 and no more. I figure that since I will be there on a Wednesday, it will be a slower day / night for the girls there and if one says no to the $60 rate, I can just move on to another one I will like and who will accept it.

ScatManDoo
06-08-15, 17:22
When I get there in September, I will offer $60 and no more. I figure that since I will be there on a Wednesday, it will be a slower day / night for the girls there and if one says no to the $60 rate, I can just move on to another one I will like and who will accept it.You will probably fare better if you make your offers in pesos.

With the exchange rate now floating at around 15.3.

600 pesos is now the equivalent of $39.

700 pesos is equal to around $46 and.

An 800 pesos offer is only around $52.

Heck, offering a mil (1000 pesos) is only around $65.

ArribaPerro
06-08-15, 18:04
When I get there in September, I will offer $60 and no more. I figure that since I will be there on a Wednesday, it will be a slower day / night for the girls there and if one says no to the $60 rate, I can just move on to another one I will like and who will accept it.The previous two Tropical chicks I took up were at $60. I consider that the "going rate" in Tropical.

Exoticspirit
06-12-15, 22:33
You will probably fare better if you make your offers in pesos.

With the exchange rate now floating at around 15.3.

600 pesos is now the equivalent of $39.

700 pesos is equal to around $46 and.

An 800 pesos offer is only around $52.

Heck, offering a mil (1000 pesos) is only around $65.Good advice. I'm from Canada and plan to get pesos here before I come. This way, I won't have to change Canadian dollars to US dollars and finally to pesos. I will avoid the upcharge involving the US dollars altogether. Will bring enough pesos to pay for everything from girls to food / drink to even hotel (although I don't know how the Cascadas charges in pesos).

UltraHappy
06-13-15, 00:35
Good advice. I'm from Canada and plan to get pesos here before I come. This way, I won't have to change Canadian dollars to US dollars and finally to pesos. I will avoid the upcharge involving the US dollars altogether. Will bring enough pesos to pay for everything from girls to food / drink to even hotel (although I don't know how the Cascadas charges in pesos).It will be much cheaper to pull your pesos from the ATM in Mexico than the fees your bank charges you. You can get an even better rate by using a bank debit card that charges 0% foreign transaction fees. Just make sure you raise your daily ATM withdrawal limit and put in a travel advisory before your trip. Yes, you will want to bring enough pesos for your first taxi ride, etc because you don't want to use the ATM at the airport.

ScatManDoo
06-13-15, 00:37
Good advice. I'm from Canada and plan to get pesos here before I come. This way, I won't have to change Canadian dollars to US dollars and finally to pesos. I will avoid the upcharge involving the US dollars altogether. Will bring enough pesos to pay for everything from girls to food / drink to even hotel (although I don't know how the Cascadas charges in pesos).For most of year 2014, HK and their 'family' of related businesses (LC, BT, Rizo de Oro & Cascades) used a house exchange rate of 12 pesos for one dollar. Late in year 2014 the real daily market exchange rate between dollars and pesos moved from around 12.5 or 13 to nearly 15 to 1. HK and their related family businesses responded by changing their tipo de casa (house exchange rate) up to 13 pesos for each dollar. Their 'in house' exchange rate has remained at 13 to 1 through all of year 2015 and is still in use today. So if you order a $4 cerveza in HK, LC or BT and pay in pesos, the charge will be 52 pesos before tip. And $8 ficha drink for a chica will cost 104 pesos before tip.

At the front desk of Rizo de Oro and Cascades the room costs are posted in dollars (see my picture of the December 2014 rack rates posted on Cascades' front desk counter) and they are currently also converted to pesos at the 13:1 tipo de casa rate. So a $70 room will cost 910 pesos. When you check in also expect to pay 100 pesos refundable deposits each for your room key, television remote, & safe key.

Hobbiest1
06-13-15, 01:27
I already expect the Tijuana loyalists to flame me so go ahead. I had been going to Tijuana for 20 + years up until Valentines day 2015 when I had the scare of my life. A guy was shot in the face and the chest 1/2 block away from HK and I was shaken down and bribed for $100 USD. I grew up in south Boston so I understand tough cities so don't even start down that path with me. I've seen a lot of fucked up stuff.

Here's the deal. The policia are fucking corrupt assholes. Not nice at all. The bullets are flying. Girls are NOT as hot as once upon a time. I took my own advice and visited Panama city. NO corrupt Policia doing shakedowns and HOT columbianas and cubans. The Panamanians. Meh. Then last week I went to Frankfurt for some Sauna club action. Picture this in terms of HK. You pay $80 entry fee. Then you get all you can eat (breakfast, luinch, dinner) and all you can drink. Full access to ameneties. There are at least 50 hot east european chicks that walk around fully naked. Except for heels. 50 euro ($55) to go to room for half hour. NO ROOM CHARGE and NO BULLSHIT. No shootings! Tijuana. I am done with you. To fucking dangerous to me and my life is worth more than that.

Best of luck dodging the lead!

H1.

SBeach25
06-13-15, 01:55
I already expect the Tijuana loyalists to flame me so go ahead. I had been going to Tijuana for 20 + years up until Valentines day 2015 when I had the scare of my life. A guy was shot in the face and the chest 1/2 block away from HK and I was shaken down and bribed for $100 USD. I grew up in south Boston so I understand tough cities so don't even start down that path with me. I've seen a lot of fucked up stuff.

Here's the deal. The policia are fucking corrupt assholes. Not nice at all. The bullets are flying. Girls are NOT as hot as once upon a time. I took my own advice and visited Panama city. NO corrupt Policia doing shakedowns and HOT columbianas and cubans. The Panamanians. Meh. Then last week I went to Frankfurt for some Sauna club action. Picture this in terms of HK. You pay $80 entry fee. Then you get all you can eat (breakfast, luinch, dinner) and all you can drink. Full access to ameneties. There are at least 50 hot east european chicks that walk around fully naked. Except for heels. 50 euro ($55) to go to room for half hour. NO ROOM CHARGE and NO BULLSHIT. No shootings! Tijuana. I am done with you. To fucking dangerous to me and my life is worth more than that.

Best of luck dodging the lead!

H1.I'm now reaching a point myself. I have been doing this for years now and have grown to love other latinas particular in south america. The chicks aren't as hot and the quality has slipped down a couple of notches in Tijuana AND the almost the same cost to get a hooker in the states as well. I'm planning to visit the FKK in September myself right before I return from my annual 3 month stay in MDE. A buddy of mine swears by it. I've been lucky the past couple of months to be able to pull off a couple of girls from the bars where I no longer pay for the ass. I tend to frequent the regular bars with these girls and have more fun. At the end of the day, I still get my dick milked by the ladies and no more knocks or sausage fest nights in HK. On a side note, when you frequent the river side, there arent that many cops like there is at the zone and revolution. Plus the taxi drivers are not trying rip me off for rides back to the border. I pay $3, yes, compare to the bull shit $5 and I'm further away. Best to you H1!

UltraHappy
06-13-15, 02:45
I already expect the Tijuana loyalists to flame me so go ahead. I had been going to Tijuana for 20 + years up until Valentines day 2015 when I had the scare of my life. A guy was shot in the face and the chest 1/2 block away from HK and I was shaken down and bribed for $100 USD. I grew up in south Boston so I understand tough cities so don't even start down that path with me. I've seen a lot of fucked up stuff.

Here's the deal. The policia are fucking corrupt assholes. Not nice at all. The bullets are flying. Girls are NOT as hot as once upon a time. I took my own advice and visited Panama city. NO corrupt Policia doing shakedowns and HOT columbianas and cubans. The Panamanians. Meh. Then last week I went to Frankfurt for some Sauna club action. Picture this in terms of HK. You pay $80 entry fee. Then you get all you can eat (breakfast, luinch, dinner) and all you can drink. Full access to ameneties. There are at least 50 hot east european chicks that walk around fully naked. Except for heels. 50 euro ($55) to go to room for half hour. NO ROOM CHARGE and NO BULLSHIT. No shootings! Tijuana. I am done with you. To fucking dangerous to me and my life is worth more than that.

Best of luck dodging the lead!

H1.Having been to both, I tend to stick almost exclusively to FKKs in Germany. By the time I add up all the costs for getting over to Tijuana and the higher hotel costs there and everything else, the price savings that Tijuana offers is quite minimal, if any, after they nickel and dime you to death.

The hourly price is slightly higher in Germany, but the service is way better and more consistent over there, at least for me, when comparing to the HK girls. Granted, most of my HK girls gave me good service when I was there, but CBJ in HK seems to be standard whereas CBJ is not even offered in FKK-land (BBBJ is standard unless you request CBJ in which case the girls might look at you funny wondering what your deal is).

I realize everyone is attracted to a different type, but for me, the Eastern European hotties are out-of-this-world. I struggle to find Latinas to go to the room with.

If I lived in San Diego, I'm sure it'd make more sense for me to stick to Tijuana, but I'm a good bit away from California. If Europe were out of the question for some reason, I'd probably make the effort to get back down to Medellin, Colombia again before heading back down to Tijuana.

Just me.

Captain Solo
06-13-15, 06:25
By Mexicos' laws HK is not a brothel. It's just a bar for guys to meet chicas.

The chicas are not HK's employees but are more like freelancers. They have a lot of freedom what they want to do and with whom they do it with. The bar legally has nothing to do with any sex activities that the chicas pursue. Guys, who go to the bar frequently and become friends with the chicas, have all sorts of kinky sex with them. But you have to be very familiar with the chicas to get good sex.

Got to admit Tijuana chicas can't act and their service is pretty poor, unless you look like a movie star and spend lots of money on them. I know guys who spent their fortunes on fichas for girls to get the GFE, which is dumb.

OTOH I know quite a few gringos who got bar girls to be their GF's, some even had children and settle down in permanent relationships. I also know a few girls who got pregnant, got dumped by the gringos, took their babies home to their mamas and left the business. Perhaps they too are capable of falling in love with their clients.

Compared to Germany or Brazil, the sex industry in Tijuana seems to be disorganized and loosely managed by amateurs, chicas are untrained, undisciplined and a lot of them don't stay long in the business.

Someone should train Tijuana chicas to deliver better sexperience and better customer service. The old mamasans in Asia are famous or teaching young girls the fine arts and skills of sex. It would help make Tijuana a prime destination for sex. For now I am just happy being able go to Tijuana every weekend and quickly get some sex while getting ready to drop to the floor when bullets start to fly. It beats staying home and beating the monkey.

Exoticspirit
06-13-15, 18:41
If I lived in San Diego, I'm sure it'd make more sense for me to stick to Tijuana, but I'm a good bit away from California. If Europe were out of the question for some reason, I'd probably make the effort to get back down to Medellin, Colombia again before heading back down to Tijuana.

Just me.Agree on all points raised on the current Tijuana. I for one am not making a special trip all the way from Canada to Tijuana, I would never do that especially since I think it is generally well accepted that on the global scale for the monger world, Tijuana does not even come close to any of the top destinations (Thailand, Philippines, Columbia, Brazil, Germany, etc.). Heck, if you were to compare the Tijuana escort (outcall) rates, I would put Montreal ahead of Tijuana anytime.

For me, I'm passing through San Diego in September so since I'm going to be in the area anyway, a quick stop to Tijuana is better than nothing. But for a stand alone monger trip, yes, there are many other places worldwide way better than Tijuana on all counts (girls, safety, entertainment, costs).

Phordphan
06-14-15, 20:30
I'm now reaching a point myself. I have been doing this for years now and have grown to love other latinas particular in south america. The chicks aren't as hot and the quality has slipped down a couple of notches in Tijuana AND the almost the same cost to get a hooker in the states as well. I'm planning to visit the FKK in September myself right before I return from my annual 3 month stay in MDE. A buddy of mine swears by it. I've been lucky the past couple of months to be able to pull off a couple of girls from the bars where I no longer pay for the ass. I tend to frequent the regular bars with these girls and have more fun. At the end of the day, I still get my dick milked by the ladies and no more knocks or sausage fest nights in HK. On a side note, when you frequent the river side, there arent that many cops like there is at the zone and revolution. Plus the taxi drivers are not trying rip me off for rides back to the border. I pay $3, yes, compare to the bull shit $5 and I'm further away. Best to you H1!


I already expect the Tijuana loyalists to flame me so go ahead. I had been going to Tijuana for 20 + years up until Valentines day 2015 when I had the scare of my life. A guy was shot in the face and the chest 1/2 block away from HK and I was shaken down and bribed for $100 USD. I grew up in south Boston so I understand tough cities so don't even start down that path with me. I've seen a lot of fucked up stuff.

Here's the deal. The policia are fucking corrupt assholes. Not nice at all. The bullets are flying. Girls are NOT as hot as once upon a time. I took my own advice and visited Panama city. NO corrupt Policia doing shakedowns and HOT columbianas and cubans. The Panamanians. Meh. Then last week I went to Frankfurt for some Sauna club action. Picture this in terms of HK. You pay $80 entry fee. Then you get all you can eat (breakfast, luinch, dinner) and all you can drink. Full access to ameneties. There are at least 50 hot east european chicks that walk around fully naked. Except for heels. 50 euro ($55) to go to room for half hour. NO ROOM CHARGE and NO BULLSHIT. No shootings! Tijuana. I am done with you. To fucking dangerous to me and my life is worth more than that.

Best of luck dodging the lead!

H1.No flames here, Mr. H. Everybody has their own comfort zone.

As I've said many times, despite what some say, the Zona Norte is a dangerous place packed with Riff-Raff. It can also be a lot of fun, but you must keep your wits about you.

I've never been, but the FKK clubs sound like a great bargain. Maybe not my cup of tea, but I can certainly see the attraction. Unfortunately, that sort of venue would be illegal in most places, even those (like Mexico) where prostitution is legal. So, we may have a bit of apples-and-oranges here. Not criticizing, just observing. We're comparing a venue of good value, in a place where it's legal, to a Tijuana clip joint. And that is what HK has become.

Years ago, the ZN was a simply a collection of dumpy bars. HK was a shabby little place, a fraction of its current size. All the glitzy clip joints were up on Revu. Strip shows, $10 ficha drinks, creative ways of parting you from your money. But those places were slightly "nicer" than the bars in the Zona and were far more accessible to the casual tourist. Few survived the post-9/11 debacle and the recession of 2008. Didn't Peanuts and Beer just close their doors a few weeks ago? One of the last hold-outs.

Well, those Revu clip joints are a distant memory. But their legacy lives on in HK. It has become a slightly flossier version of the traditional Tijuana clip joint. $5 beers? $8 fichas? $100 half-hour sessions? Seriously? Unfortunately, yes. No Mexican has ever gone broke overestimating the shit a gringo will put up with if you dangle pussy in front of him. HK has morphed from a "low-key" rather fun establishment with girls with good attitudes (anybody remember Anthrax?) to a classic Tijuana rip-off bar.

My point is that HK is a terrible value now, and if one compares it to just about any other venue, that other venue will come out on top every time. About the only equivalent I can think of offhand would be the strip clubs in San Jose, CR, where it's really easy to blow several hundred dollars on ficha drinks alone, let alone the cost of the girl.

As far as fun in the ZN goes, I think most other places are better value for money. I've yet to have a bad session in CC, although it's hardly what you would call a happenin' joint these days. Tropical has cuties, Playboy has its own set of attractions (if you're a bit of an exhibitionist), and gems can be found in all of the smaller joints.

But, as Mr. Beach points out, it's much more fun outside of the Zona these days. There are all sorts of ladies willing to have an apoyo economico "relationship" with a gringo. If you start to hang out in local venues you'll realize how badly the customers in the ZN are treated and you'll have fewer run-ins with Tijuana's finest.

So, at least for me, the ZN is OK in small doses. It's certainly not the be-all and end-all of the P4 P scene in Tijuana. As for you, Mr. H, try expanding your hunting grounds a bit. If you like Zona-style bars, go to La Cueva del Peludo. The beers are 21 pesos, although I think the fichas are the same price as the ZN. But the attitudes are much more relaxed, you won't have to fend off pesky meseros, and there are lots of pretty chicas. Go early on a Saturday or you'll never get a table.

Phordphan
06-14-15, 20:44
Agree on all points raised on the current Tijuana. I for one am not making a special trip all the way from Canada to Tijuana, I would never do that especially since I think it is generally well accepted that on the global scale for the monger world, Tijuana does not even come close to any of the top destinations (Thailand, Philippines, Columbia, Brazil, Germany, etc.). Heck, if you were to compare the Tijuana escort (outcall) rates, I would put Montreal ahead of Tijuana anytime.

For me, I'm passing through San Diego in September so since I'm going to be in the area anyway, a quick stop to Tijuana is better than nothing. But for a stand alone monger trip, yes, there are many other places worldwide way better than Tijuana on all counts (girls, safety, entertainment, costs).Thailand is no longer the bargain it once was. The P4 P scene dwarfs most other places, but these days it's poor value and less-than-attractive girls. $100 short-time liaisons are hardly a reason to spend $1,000 on airfare and 21+ hours in travel time. I go every year, but the bars are no longer the reason. Hell, in April I walked by Morning / Night in Soi Nana in the afternoon. I kid you not, working there, waiting for customers, were 2 or 3 grannies. I don't mean women in their 30's, I mean women whose 50th birthday was a memory. That sort of thing was unimaginable just a few years ago.

In Tijuana, as well as Thailand, the best scene, IMHO, are the independents. Freelancers who may have other employment but who like to make a little something on the side. You meet them via Craigslist, or on-line "dating" sites. Much more fun, much better value than ridiculously-priced escorts.

If one has to fly for hours to get anyplace, then Tijuana is probably not good choice for an extended vacation. But if one is strictly going for the women, BKK isn't such a great choice anymore, either. If you live in the Midwest or east coast, Colombia is probably best these days.

ArribaPerro
06-14-15, 21:03
No flames here, Mr. H. Everybody has their own comfort zone.

So, at least for me, the ZN is OK in small doses. It's certainly not the be-all and end-all of the P4 P scene in Tijuana. As for you, Mr. H, try expanding your hunting grounds a bit. If you like Zona-style bars, go to La Cueva del Peludo. The beers are 21 pesos, although I think the fichas are the same price as the ZN. But the attitudes are much more relaxed, you won't have to fend off pesky meseros, and there are lots of pretty chicas. Go early on a Saturday or you'll never get a table.Funny you mention La Cueva because I think HK owns that bar too.

Hobbiest1
06-15-15, 02:49
Thailand is no longer the bargain it once was. The P4 P scene dwarfs most other places, but these days it's poor value and less-than-attractive girls. $100 short-time liaisons are hardly a reason to spend $1,000 on airfare and 21+ hours in travel time. I go every year, but the bars are no longer the reason. Hell, in April I walked by Morning / Night in Soi Nana in the afternoon. I kid you not, working there, waiting for customers, were 2 or 3 grannies. I don't mean women in their 30's, I mean women whose 50th birthday was a memory. That sort of thing was unimaginable just a few years ago.

In Tijuana, as well as Thailand, the best scene, IMHO, are the independents. Freelancers who may have other employment but who like to make a little something on the side. You meet them via Craigslist, or on-line "dating" sites. Much more fun, much better value than ridiculously-priced escorts.

If one has to fly for hours to get anyplace, then Tijuana is probably not good choice for an extended vacation. But if one is strictly going for the women, BKK isn't such a great choice anymore, either. If you live in the Midwest or east coast, Colombia is probably best these days.Thanks everyone on this board. I wanted to first state that I live in San Diego so Tijuana would be a first choice because of proximity. I mean heck I don't have to pay airfare and hotel, HOWEVER. As I said in a previous post it is no longer worth it (MONEY ASIDE). I'm not really into dodging bullets in exchange for pussy. The pussy is never worth it but lately. Arghhhh. Anyhow I am headed to Shanghai and Hangzou next month so maybe a side trip to the Phils. Sorry to sound so pissy about Tijuana but I had a very bad experience with those who are supposed to protect. FUCK the crooked Policia. Not doing that anymore. Fuck you Tijuana and your shitty crooked cops! Not ever getting a single peso from me!

H1.

Phordphan
06-15-15, 03:06
Thanks everyone on this board. I wanted to first state that I live in San Diego so Tijuana would be a first choice because of proximity. I mean heck I don't have to pay airfare and hotel, HOWEVER. As I said in a previous post it is no longer worth it (MONEY ASIDE). I'm not really into dodging bullets in exchange for pussy. The pussy is never worth it but lately. Arghhhh. Anyhow I am headed to Shanghai and Hangzou next month so maybe a side trip to the Phils. Sorry to sound so pissy about Tijuana but I had a very bad experience with those who are supposed to protect. FUCK the crooked Policia. Not doing that anymore. Fuck you Tijuana and your shitty crooked cops! Not ever getting a single peso from me!

H1.I'm with you on the cops. But I think the Thai cops could give their Tijuana brethren lessons. I suspect the Chinese and Phils fuzz aren't far behind. I would trust any of them as far as I can spit.

But, seriously, try hitting a few joints outside of the zona. Fewer cops and fewer hassles.

Do you care to share with the rest of us what happened to you?

GolfSexRroll
06-15-15, 03:57
No flames here, Mr. H. Everybody has their own comfort zone.

As I've said many times, despite what some say, the Zona Norte is a dangerous place packed with Riff-Raff. It can also be a lot of fun, but you must keep your wits about you.

I've never been, but the FKK clubs sound like a great bargain. Maybe not my cup of tea, but I can certainly see the attraction. Unfortunately, that sort of venue would be illegal in most places, even those (like Mexico) where prostitution is legal. So, we may have a bit of apples-and-oranges here. Not criticizing, just observing. We're comparing a venue of good value, in a place where it's legal, to a Tijuana clip joint. And that is what HK has become.

Years ago, the ZN was a simply a collection of dumpy bars. HK was a shabby little place, a fraction of its current size. All the glitzy clip joints were up on Revu. Strip shows, $10 ficha drinks, creative ways of parting you from your money. But those places were slightly "nicer" than the bars in the Zona and were far more accessible to the casual tourist. Few survived the post-9/11 debacle and the recession of 2008. Didn't Peanuts and Beer just close their doors a few weeks ago? One of the last hold-outs.

Well, those Revu clip joints are a distant memory. But their legacy lives on in HK. It has become a slightly flossier version of the traditional Tijuana clip joint. $5 beers? $8 fichas? $100 half-hour sessions? Seriously? Unfortunately, yes. No Mexican has ever gone broke overestimating the shit a gringo will put up with if you dangle pussy in front of him. HK has morphed from a "low-key" rather fun establishment with girls with good attitudes (anybody remember Anthrax?) to a classic Tijuana rip-off bar.

My point is that HK is a terrible value now, and if one compares it to just about any other venue, that other venue will come out on top every time. About the only equivalent I can think of offhand would be the strip clubs in San Jose, CR, where it's really easy to blow several hundred dollars on ficha drinks alone, let alone the cost of the girl.

As far as fun in the ZN goes, I think most other places are better value for money. I've yet to have a bad session in CC, although it's hardly what you would call a happenin' joint these days. Tropical has cuties, Playboy has its own set of attractions (if you're a bit of an exhibitionist), and gems can be found in all of the smaller joints.

But, as Mr. Beach points out, it's much more fun outside of the Zona these days. There are all sorts of ladies willing to have an apoyo economico "relationship" with a gringo. If you start to hang out in local venues you'll realize how badly the customers in the ZN are treated and you'll have fewer run-ins with Tijuana's finest.

So, at least for me, the ZN is OK in small doses. It's certainly not the be-all and end-all of the P4 P scene in Tijuana. As for you, Mr. H, try expanding your hunting grounds a bit. If you like Zona-style bars, go to La Cueva del Peludo. The beers are 21 pesos, although I think the fichas are the same price as the ZN. But the attitudes are much more relaxed, you won't have to fend off pesky meseros, and there are lots of pretty chicas. Go early on a Saturday or you'll never get a table.I live in San Diego just ten minutes away!I do not go to the bars anymore. I NEVER go into HK. I see no need. I do not drink. I have a posse of regular SGs at my disposal! At a Great value, through a long time of training! I go to Tijuana to fuck only. Well a few good "dog" tacos too. Jajaja!

Exoticspirit
06-15-15, 14:32
Thanks everyone on this board. I wanted to first state that I live in San Diego so Tijuana would be a first choice because of proximity. I mean heck I don't have to pay airfare and hotel, HOWEVER. As I said in a previous post it is no longer worth it (MONEY ASIDE). I'm not really into dodging bullets in exchange for pussy. The pussy is never worth it but lately. Arghhhh. Anyhow I am headed to Shanghai and Hangzou next month so maybe a side trip to the Phils. Sorry to sound so pissy about Tijuana but I had a very bad experience with those who are supposed to protect. FUCK the crooked Policia. Not doing that anymore. Fuck you Tijuana and your shitty crooked cops! Not ever getting a single peso from me!

H1.What time of the day / night were these unfortunate incidents?

Lurkingdog
06-16-15, 03:39
After reading about this place on this forum and other strip club boards, I just had to give it a try (the last several negative posts from fellow mongers nonwithstanding). I have to thank everyone who provided their input. I parked in the US lot, walked across and changed money into Pesos. As others have said but I will reiterate, you'll save money doing this. I got a cab which others have said is $10 to Hong Kong -- it's 100 pesos which puts the price in between 6-7 dollars using local currency.

Anyway, after arriving Sunday afternoon, the club was already hopping and as others have mentioned, the girls are in the 5-9+ range in looks and body and there are more in the 8-9 range than in most all other clubs I have been to. I don't recall seeing what others were paying for their beers in US dollars but I got my bottle of Sol for 70 pesos. I really enjoyed the sights -- the two very attractive and very busty without being overweight latinas who very cavorting on the soapy stage were lots of fun. Your could do a lot with them for a dollar tip!

Finally, I began speaking to one of the lovelies and bought her a drink and chatted, groped, and ultimately went next door and upstairs to the hotel. She wanted $80 for 30 minutes -- I recalled others reporting that some would go for 600-800 pesos. She wouldn't do that but did offer 1000 pesos and I took it. Good thing she doesn't do math very well as she kept telling me that I would have saved money if I didn't change dollars into local currency -- but do the math and the 1000 pesos comes out to about $65.

Went to the room, reasonably clean -- paid the man 225 pesos for the 1/2 hour. Everything covered, porn playing on the TV and she was game for multiple pops within the time. Not a GFE by any means but she was nice enough, pleasant to look at and pretty skilled with what she does.

All in all, it was a very satisfactory trip -- the only BAD thing was the 2 1/2 hour time it took to cross the border. I can't figure out why it took so long -- none of the websites explain this very well and from what I could see, they let a fixed number of pedestrians in -- it probably takes about 10 minutes to process them all, and then they wait another 20-30 minutes before they let in another group. What a stupid way to do it. Anyway, I enjoyed my time at the club but did not enjoy the journey back to the US. Oh Well.

LD.

RickyVee
06-16-15, 05:04
Glad you had a good time. Yes sometimes the border can be a crap shoot on weekends. Sundays are notoriously a bad time to cross. If you must cross on a Sunday best to do it after 11 pm or later otherwise you get stuck. I suggest you bring ear buds and kick ass playlist that way you can daydream about the trim you just stabbed while you pass the time The best time to go IMHO is Wed evenings less crowds no cover and the girls seem to be decent enough. I usually breeze right through never waited more than 20 minutes on a Wednesday.

Geescummy
06-16-15, 08:17
After reading about this place on this forum and other strip club boards, I just had to give it a try (the last several negative posts from fellow mongers nonwithstanding). I have to thank everyone who provided their input. I parked in the US lot, walked across and changed money into Pesos. As others have said but I will reiterate, you'll save money doing this. I got a cab which others have said is $10 to Hong Kong -- it's 100 pesos which puts the price in between 6-7 dollars using local currency.

Anyway, after arriving Sunday afternoon, the club was already hopping and as others have mentioned, the girls are in the 5-9+ range in looks and body and there are more in the 8-9 range than in most all other clubs I have been to. I don't recall seeing what others were paying for their beers in US dollars but I got my bottle of Sol for 70 pesos. I really enjoyed the sights -- the two very attractive and very busty without being overweight latinas who very cavorting on the soapy stage were lots of fun. Your could do a lot with them for a dollar tip!

Finally, I began speaking to one of the lovelies and bought her a drink and chatted, groped, and ultimately went next door and upstairs to the hotel. She wanted $80 for 30 minutes -- I recalled others reporting that some would go for 600-800 pesos. She wouldn't do that but did offer 1000 pesos and I took it. Good thing she doesn't do math very well as she kept telling me that I would have saved money if I didn't change dollars into local currency -- but do the math and the 1000 pesos comes out to about $65..Next time do the Tijuana Fast Pass $6 Van! This van will take you straight to the main entrance line so you will only need to wait roughly 15 to 20 minutes from there.

Exoticspirit
06-16-15, 13:02
I haven't been to HK yet but wondering if the bar area is a good place to sit there? Can one still see much of the sights from the bar? I figure that in most clubs, the bar area is pretty well off limits to the pesky messeros.

GolfSexRroll
06-16-15, 14:47
I haven't been to HK yet but wondering if the bar area is a good place to sit there? Can one still see much of the sights from the bar? I figure that in most clubs, the bar area is pretty well off limits to the pesky messeros. The lower bar by the main stage is usually occupied by the working chicas! When I went to HK I went up and ordered a drink myself. No tip needed. Nurse the drink Beer covered by a napkin, or water the same. The meseros will not bother you, ( unless you sit with a chica!)

GolfSexRroll
06-16-15, 15:04
Next time do the Tijuana Fast Pass $6 Van! This van will take you straight to the main entrance line so you will only need to wait roughly 15 to 20 minutes from there.Many times the $6 van is NOT a bargain! When the line is long and on a travel day (Sunday and Monday) the vans travel in the bus lanes which there are many!. These busses usually travel as fast as the general lane! The busses and $6 vans) empty into a "separate general public" waiting line that joins the General waiting line at the turnstile to enter te USA. You will be in the General lanes to the agents.

The big problem is that you are crammed into a van that holds 9 people with up to 12! Sometimes you will be stuck in a van for 2 to 3 hours! (My one and ONLY time I was in one for 3 hours!) Bathroom? Forget it! Hot crammed and Stinky! Save your $6. Just tough it out in line, IMHO.

SBeach25
06-16-15, 15:25
Many times the $6 van is NOT a bargain! When the line is long and on a travel day (Sunday and Monday) the vans travel in the bus lanes which there are many!. These busses usually travel as fast as the general lane! The busses and $6 vans) empty into a "separate general public" waiting line that joins the General waiting line at the turnstile to enter te USA. You will be in the General lanes to the agents.
The big problem is that you are crammed into a van that holds 9 people with up to 12! Sometimes you will be stuck in a van for 2 to 3 hours! (My one and ONLY time I was in one for 3 hours!) Bathroom? Forget it! Hot crammed and Stinky! Save your $6. Just tough it out in line, IMHO.I tried this once with a buddy of mine and its a total scam. Just like the the one where the guy says he can get you to the front of the line. They where these badges that looks official but don't mean diddly. For the vans, when we got in, we waited for about half an hour so it could fill up. Then, we waited another 45 minutes to get to the entrance for the General waiting line. We saw the same people in line when we first jumped in. As for those guys that can put you in front, they have you follow them up front, when the line starts moving then they have you ditch in front of people who look at you all mad. Luckily it worked but I have seen where people complained to CBP and what happened? They send you all the way back to the end of the line and you out of $. Get a Sentry card, its the only one that is official.

Captain Solo
06-16-15, 15:49
As I remember, Sentri card only works for land crossings. The Global Entry card works for all air, land and sea crossings. Costs $100 for 5 years.

Apply and pay on line. State Dept will do background check within 3 to 4 weeks. People with felony convictions would be rejected. People with misdemeanors older than 5 to 10 years are very likely to be approved. If rejected, you can appeal to State Dept, explaining your circumstances for reconsideration. Worst case, your local congressperson may be convinced to vouch for you with State Dept.

If approved you will have to go on line and schedule an interview with CBP at any international airport locations, or at the CBP's office in Otay Mesa. Really quick and painless and it saves hundreds of hours waiting in lines at border crossings.

Apply for your car at the same time and drive it to the CBP interview. I drive over in my own car. Crossing back after 10 PM in the cars' Sentri lane usually takes only 10 minutes. Last Saturday Sentri traffic at 10 PM backed up all the way along Padre Kino. But It still took only 20 minutes. Many times the card RFID pulled up your personal data on the screen, the CBP agents would waved me through without asking questions.

Departure can be done quickly bypassing CBP security check points with a few major airlines. Reentry through international airports you can bypass the long line at Immigration. Just proceed to the Global Entry machine, insert your card to clear immigration for reentry. Quick and painless.

Phordphan
06-16-15, 18:26
After reading about this place on this forum and other strip club boards, I just had to give it a try (the last several negative posts from fellow mongers nonwithstanding). I have to thank everyone who provided their input. I parked in the US lot, walked across and changed money into Pesos. As others have said but I will reiterate, you'll save money doing this. I got a cab which others have said is $10 to Hong Kong -- it's 100 pesos which puts the price in between 6-7 dollars using local currency.Where did you pick up a $10 cab? The price of a cab should be $5, 50 pesos for a Libre.

The only time I've gotten any grief from a cabbie was when I asked to be delivered to HK or AB. So, I always just said Hotel Nelson, then walked the 2 blocks to the Zona.

ScatManDoo
06-16-15, 20:33
Where did you pick up a $10 cab? The price of a cab should be $5, 50 pesos for a Libre.

The only time I've gotten any grief from a cabbie was when I asked to be delivered to HK or AB. So, I always just said Hotel Nelson, then walked the 2 blocks to the Zona.I too was surprised that Lurkingdog was quoted 100 pesos at the border, and if so, he probably should have sought another taxi quote since that is too high a fare from the border to LZ. Now if he didn't ask for a quote, and just hopped into a cab at the border, the 100 pesos would make sense.

I arrive typically around lunchtime on the times when I walk into Tijuana. I go to where the Taxi Libres pick up clients near the turnaround. At that intersection I pick up the yellow & white colored buses that will take me to the Diamonte#2 (above Bar Taurino at the NW corner of Constitution and Primera) for just 5 pesos.

Similarly, I was surprised by Lurkingdog's report of paying 70 pesos for a Sol beer in HK. Myself and my amigos are always charged 54 pesos or $4 for a beer these days in Hong Kong Bar, but I don't think mi amigos drink Sol and we are generally not in HK on the weekends.

ScatManDoo
06-17-15, 07:13
Myself and my amigos are always charged 54 pesos or $4 for a beer these days in Hong Kong Bar, My error, I should have written 52 pesos or $4 since HK / Cascades' current in-house exchange rate is 13:1.

Geescummy
06-17-15, 08:29
Sunday early night around 6 pm I was sipping on a Tecate and me and my nephew were checking out the talent at HK! As soon as we walked in a hot Colombian mix chica named Verou Lasser caught our eyes as she pole danced on the platform we gazed at her birds eye view from up stairs. My nephew needed to take a closer look and canvas the club to see what was the best choice for him! I was just chilling up stairs just before he went down stairs the super cute Colombian mix chica winked and smiled at him. He came back and decided she was the one he wanted so we went down stairs and grabbed a booth but before you knew it she was sitting with another potential client so all my nephew could do was wait it out but she never went up stairs with this client only sat at his booth and sipped a small beer. About 5 minutes later my nephew called her over to our small booth then they were chatting it up a little then up stairs they go. I bought a shot of tequila and waited patiently for something nice and petite and Mexican to roll by me. One cool young waiter kept bringing these big size chicas my way finally after two no goes I told him I like cute Mexican girls that are petite!! Man this waiter brought me just what I wanted "Suse" what a wonderful woman!! No kids perfect face cute smile very nice see Cup or the Cup real tits! Yummy! Man it was GFE entire time with her mouths locked kissing up stairs showered together got CBJ, CG and Mish and very tight Mish mouths locked kissing till I exploded a big load!! I thought I was going to get the knock on the door since our shower seemed a little long but no knocks just pure bliss and lots of fun with Suse!

Lurkingdog
06-18-15, 03:44
I haven't been to HK yet but wondering if the bar area is a good place to sit there? Can one still see much of the sights from the bar? I figure that in most clubs, the bar area is pretty well off limits to the pesky messeros.During my Sunday afternoon I sat pretty much wherever and wasn't hassled by any of the many messeros at all.

LD.

Lurkingdog
06-18-15, 03:50
Where did you pick up a $10 cab? The price of a cab should be $5, 50 pesos for a Libre.

The only time I've gotten any grief from a cabbie was when I asked to be delivered to HK or AB. So, I always just said Hotel Nelson, then walked the 2 blocks to the Zona.Fellas -- perhaps I over paid. I went up to the top of the hill after crossing into town and got in a yellow cab (I don't think it was a Libra). He took me right to HK. And I the 70 pesos included a tip to the bar man.

LD.

AnonX69
06-18-15, 17:31
I usually have Wed eve free, since I'm off on Thurs. Went to HK for there CHICA VIP event, there were tons of hot chica there as well as meseros. I was outside at around 8:30 pm watching the limos pulled up as some of the hottest Latinas stepped onto the red carpet to have there pictures taken. Each limo carried about 3-4 bottles and each took turn exiting the limo to have their pictures taken. I kicked myself hard for leaving my phone in my car, so no pics. Inside HK, it was packed, even more so than last Sat eve. I think every bar girls worked last night. Every bar had a weekend crowd and girls, as the event crowd spilled over to Las Chevalas and Adelitas. The meseros seemed more pushy as well. Every time I walked up to platforms to give the girls a couple dollars, a. Meseros would appear, asking if I wanted to take them for a lap dance. After about dozen times saying no, I literally grabbed the mesero's hand from my shoulder and yelled at him to leave me along as I was having fun. That put me in a sour mood so I left and went to Adelitas and bang the girl Alexandra I've had the hots for. Never got to see who won the car.

SBeach25
06-19-15, 08:26
Never got to see who won the car.I thought it was going to be Alison as she had the most support from her co-workers but the judges didn't factor that. So Jackie won. Later saw the taking pics of her in front of her car.

Captain Solo
06-20-15, 02:08
Was in HK Thursday night. There were a lot of chicas but very few of the skinny, good-looking ones. They may have partied all night at the VIP Strippers' contest and took the next night off.

Sasha was there. She looked spaced out under the influence, tired and depressed. But she put on a very energetic but smooth strip routine with lots of spinning under the ring and hanging inverted, head down on the pole. She's a pretty flaca, but always has a stern looks on her face. She agreed on 1,000 (about $65 at current rate) to go upstairs. I told her to wait until I get rid of my gas, indigestion problem.

My wingman found a tiny, pretty girl, 5 foot 80 lbs, her face looking somewhat like Wynona Ryder. Actually she looks much cuter, sweeter, fresher and prettier than the Wynona in the attached pic. He was excited. She's new. I have never seen her in HK.

My indigestion just ruined the night.

AnonX69
06-20-15, 13:11
My wingman found a tiny, pretty girl, 5 foot 80 lbs, her face looking somewhat like Wynona Ryder. Actually she looks much cuter, sweeter, fresher and prettier than the Wynona in the attached pict.I had the biggest crush on her growing up. I'm going to try to find her and make my childhood fantasy come true.

The Tall Man
06-20-15, 16:11
Was in HK Thursday night. There were a lot of chicas but very few of the skinny, good-looking ones. They may have partied all night at the VIP Strippers' contest and took the next night off.

Sasha was there. She looked spaced out under the influence, tired and depressed. But she put on a very energetic but smooth strip routine with lots of spinning under the ring and hanging inverted, head down on the pole. She's a pretty flaca, but always has a stern looks on her face. She agreed on 1,000 (about $65 at current rate) to go upstairs. I told her to wait until I get rid of my gas, indigestion problem.

My wingman found a tiny, pretty girl, 5 foot 80 lbs, her face looking somewhat like Wynona Ryder. Actually she looks much cuter, sweeter, fresher and prettier than the Wynona in the attached pic. He was excited. She's new. I have never seen her in HK.

My indigestion just ruined the night.Absolutely loved her in Beetlejuice!

The Tall Man.

Captain Solo
06-20-15, 16:41
Apparently you are not the one having a crush one Wynona Ryder. Now I remember seeing her in "BeetleJuice. ".

My wingman got so excited about this Wynona's double that he drove down by himself the next night on Friday just to find her again. He called then texted me but I had company.

The HK girl is very cute looking with light, smooth skin, but she is tiny, like about 5 foot, 80 lbs. My wingman can be very impulsive when he finds the girls he likes. Personally I would never drive the 2 plus hours 2 nights in a row, just to fuck a girl, even if she looks better than Miss Universe.

I had the same infatuation with the last Kimberly in HK, a petite girl with dark skin, looking like a Filipina or a Pacific Islander. Subconsciously I wanted to relive the wild and passionate sex I had for a week with a petite and pretty student in Manila. Took her to the hotel twice, but both times she was just lying there like a star fish without any interest or expression. The second time, I even asked a HK manager to explain to her that I wanted her to act passionate in bed, but it did not work. She was bucking her tiny crotch like a machine, but she did not show any passion and I could tell she did like enjoy fucking me.

I had many passionate, loving, exhaustive sex with girls in the US, England, France, China, the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Brazil, Argentina etc. But can remember only 1 such session with a HK girl, Griscela from Monterrey, and once in Adelita, with Zwannee from Guatemala. Sex with Tijuana's bar girls is like a routine procedure to them, just going through the motion quickly without feelings or expressions.

Let me know how you guys make out with this Wynona Ryder's double. Hope she doesn't carry a bucket of star fish. Hehehehe.


I had the biggest crush on her growing up. I'm going to try to find her and make my childhood fantasy come true.

Captain Solo
06-20-15, 21:10
I was planning to go to this VIP Stripper of the year contest, hands down the busiest and funnest party with almost every top-tiered chicas in HK attend and root for their friends.

At the last minute the dinner gave me a case of worst indigestion in my life. My stomach was so heavy I did not feel like standing up, walking, left alone going to a noisy and wild putas party. I was trying to relieve my indigestion with copious amount of lemonade and red wine, but they did not work. But 6 PM I was drunk like a skunk, could hardly stand or walk straight. Damn.

I went down to Tijuana the next night on Thursday, but the gas and indigestion problem continued. I was farting left and right on the way down and half a dozen times in HK but the stomach was packed solid. I had to stall Sasha with her offer to go to hotel Cascada for a fuck at 1000 pesos, which was a good deal. I really like Sasha's sexy, smooth and energetic strip routine. The other chicas are just strutting around on stage like robots. I felt bad and was no good all night on Thursday.

So do me a favor and post pictures of Alison and Jackie. I have no idea who these girls are. In past years, contest winners, like Rosela, Lizeth and Alaska, tend to be tattooed, big and lumpy, not the lithe, skinny chicas with unblemished smooth skin that I prefer. Guys told me Rosela and Alaska, like most strippers, are lesbians.

Have not seen Alaska for a few years. She's the one with light skin and lots of tattoos. I heard Alaska has been working in Insomnia and is heavily into leather, bondage, S&M ect.


I thought it was going to be Alison as she had the most support from her co-workers but the judges didn't factor that. So Jackie won. Later saw the taking pics of her in front of her car.

SBeach25
06-21-15, 04:14
I was planning to go to this VIP Stripper of the year contest, hands down the busiest and funnest party with almost every top-tiered chicas in HK attend and root for their friends.

At the last minute the dinner gave me a case of worst indigestion in my life. My stomach was so heavy I did not feel like standing up, walking, left alone going to a noisy and wild putas party. I was trying to relieve my indigestion with copious amount of lemonade and red wine, but they did not work. But 6 PM I was drunk like a skunk, could hardly stand or walk straight. Damn.

I went down to Tijuana the next night on Thursday, but the gas and indigestion problem continued. I was farting left and right on the way down and half a dozen times in HK but the stomach was packed solid. I had to stall Sasha with her offer to go to hotel Cascada for a fuck at 1000 pesos, which was a good deal. I really like Sasha's sexy, smooth and energetic strip routine. The other chicas are just strutting around on stage like robots. I felt bad and was no good all night on Thursday.

So do me a favor and post pictures of Alison and Jackie. I have no idea who these girls are. In past years, contest winners, like Rosela, Lizeth and Alaska, tend to be tattooed, big and lumpy, not the lithe, skinny chicas with unblemished smooth skin that I prefer. Guys told me Rosela and Alaska, like most strippers, are lesbians.

Have not seen Alaska for a few years. She's the one with light skin and lots of tattoos. I heard Alaska has been working in Insomnia and is heavily into leather, bondage, S&M ect.I wasn't feeling Hk plus I'm sure HK will post them on their gallery soon. Give it a week and it should be up.

AnonX69
06-21-15, 10:50
At the last minute the dinner gave me a case of worst indigestion in my life. My stomach was so heavy I did not feel like standing up, walking, left alone going to a noisy and wild putas party. I was trying to relieve my indigestion with copious amount of lemonade and red wine, but they did not work. But 6 PM I was drunk like a skunk, could hardly stand or walk straight. Damn.

I went down to Tijuana the next night on Thursday, but the gas and indigestion problem continued. I was farting left and right on the way down and half a dozen times in HK but the stomach was packed solid.When I travel abroad, especially to foreign countries I always bring activated charcoal with me. You can buy them at GMC in capsules. They are great at absorbing toxins in the stomachs. When I eat something that gives me a tummy ache or the runs. 2 capsules stop it.

AnonX69
06-21-15, 11:38
Apparently you are not the one having a crush one Wynona Ryder. Now I remember seeing her in "BeetleJuice. ".

Let me know how you guys make out with this Wynona Ryder's double. Hope she doesn't carry a bucket of star fish. Hehehehe.I couldn't find her sat night. Maybe your wingman wore her out or too many mongers with Wynona fetishes took up all her time. I was there from 9-11 pm. In those 2 hours I got more dicks than pussies rubbed up against me, so it was time to vamanos. Finished the night with a spinner from adelitas name Fanny for 800 pesos. We were exhausted after 30 and she kept saying " caliente, mucho galore, mucho galore". I know caliente means hot, much means a lot and galore means plenty, but I'm not exactly sure what it meant. Possible idiom that's doesn't translate well. Wish I was fluent in Spanish.

I'll try again wed night when I'm free and let you know starfish or 5 stars. Luckily I only live 30 minutes from the border so I can always make a quick pussy run and be back home to sleep in my own bed.

Echo9
06-21-15, 16:46
"Mucho calor" means very hot. Calor like calorie means heat.

Baxter Slade
06-21-15, 16:47
She was probably saying "mucho calor" which would translate to a lot of heat.

Captain Solo
06-21-15, 17:17
When she says "caliente," she means to compliment you that you are hot and passionate. You turned her on.

"Mucho calor" means the weather, or the room, is hot. Hotel Coahuila has central air conditioning, so the room could not be hot. She felt hot after an energetic session with you.

In any case she meant it as a compliment and probably wanted you to fuck her again. If she really likes you, she may fuck you for free after work. Try to ask her out for dinner of to the club after her shift to see where it will lead. You have end up with wild girl friend sex with a bar girl for free.

Use google translate, write down a few phrases. Try to read them or just show them to her:

Would you like to go for dinner with me?

¿Quieres ir a cenar conmigo?

Let's go to the clubs for drinks and dancing.

Vamos a ir a los clubes para las bebidas y bailar.

Let's go back to my hotel room and have fun.

Vamos a volver a mi habitación del hotel a divertirnos.


she kept saying " caliente, mucho galore, mucho galore". I know caliente means hot, much means a lot and galore means plenty, but I'm not exactly sure what it meant. Possible idiom that's doesn't translate well. Wish I was fluent in Spanish.

AnonX69
06-21-15, 21:45
When she says "caliente," she means to compliment you that you are hot and passionate. You turned her on.

"Mucho calor" means the weather, or the room, is hot. Hotel Coahuila has central air conditioning, so the room could not be hot. She felt hot after an energetic session with you.

In any case she meant it as a compliment and probably wanted you to fuck her again. If she really likes you, she may fuck you for free after work. Try to ask her out for dinner of to the club after her shift to see where it will lead. You have end up with wild girl friend sex with a bar girl for free.I think you may be right. Before going arriba, she had asked me how many times have I been to Adelitas. I told her 3 times and she was like, no no, and held up 7 fingers, so she has noticed me there before. I kinda stand out amongst other Asians because I have blue hair with a Japanese hair style. She also mentioned she gets off at 2 am. The sex was very hot and passionate, we were both sweating a lot afterward. She finished me off being on top and slamming down on me hard, my chest hurts now where she placed hands for balance.

Phordphan
06-21-15, 21:48
We were exhausted after 30 and she kept saying " caliente, mucho galore, mucho galore". I know caliente means hot, much means a lot and galore means plenty, but I'm not exactly sure what it meant. Possible idiom that's doesn't translate well. Wish I was fluent in Spanish.She didn't speak English, so she was attempting to use simple words that she thought a gringo might understand to try to communicate that it was hot in the room.

To English speakers, if the temperature of the room, or weather, or whatever, is high we say it's hot. She was trying to communicate that it, or she, was hot, in a very simple way.

However, in Spanish you are not hot, nor are you hungry or thirsty. You "have" these things. You have hunger (tengo hambre) or you have heat (tengo calor). If the ambient temperature is hot you might say "hace mucho calor. " Caliente is used to describe the temperature of an object, like a hot stove. It's also slang for horny, but she most definitely was not telling you that she was horny and you can ignore anybody who tells you differently.

BTW, spicy food is not caliente. It's picante or picoso.

AnonX69
06-22-15, 05:15
She didn't speak English, so she was attempting to use simple words that she thought a gringo might understand to try to communicate that it was hot in the room.

To English speakers, if the temperature of the room, or weather, or whatever, is high we say it's hot. It's also slang for horny, but she most definitely was not telling you that she was horny and you can ignore anybody who tells you differently.Aww man, and here I thought she like me. Oh well, I don't intend to get emotionally involved with these BGs anyways. Most of them have kids and I'm not an instant daddy, stir and mix. I'll probably bang her one more time and move on. Or just move on and look for Wynona doppelganger.

MaskedTurbator
06-22-15, 15:50
Aww man, and here I thought she like me. Oh well, I don't intend to get emotionally involved with these BGs anyways. Most of them have kids and I'm not an instant daddy, stir and mix. I'll probably bang her one more time and move on. Or just move on and look for Wynona doppelganger.Don't feel bad. Most of these girls are academy award winning actresses by the way they play their parts. More than one guy has fallen head over heels for a bar girl (me included)! But, I've got to say that you're handling this much better than, say, a certain poster on this board a few months back. *shudder*.

Here's a tip for you: the Wynona-twin's name is Luna. She just started last Wednesday, and is indeed a very sweet girl. I personally hope she doesn't stay in this job too long, because it eventually corrupts optimistic, pretty little things like her.

And for the rest of you, be aware that there's a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that many of us are not privy to share, for fear of being outed or losing connections. Tijuana is a big place, but it's actually a small town. You'd be shocked at how easy it is to trace people in these clubs. I'm sure many posters on this board can agree.

Best of luck to you!

Captain Solo
06-22-15, 19:25
Don't let dumb losers rain on your parade.

Bar girls and street girls are humans too. They need the same things we need; good sex, good food, good drinks, good company, love, romance, tenderness, some entertainment and diversions after "work. " If she mentions her shift ends at 2 AM, she most likely wants to see you after work.

Different girls like different things in different guys. Rosela, the tall, beautiful HK stripper, would go crazy over short, little Asian guys. Rosela turns out to be bisexual with cravings for suxual domination. She would [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the shit out of little Asian guys in the hotel.

One of the guys I know is a short Asian guy with his little boy crew-cut hair. He could not speak much English and speak not one word in Spanish. I was always doing the interpreting and negotiation for him with my pigeon Spanish. Unable to communicate, he was always walking in La Zona grinning silly at the putas. But putas really liked and trusted him. A few years ago he hooked up with an average-looking Adelita chica as a GF. He was coming down to Tijuana every weekend, crashing in her apartment, fucking her bareback all weekend after her shift. The chica was doting on him like a baby. 2 AM if he was hungry, she would walk 2 blocks in the dark to buy him hot tacos and cold beers. She really had the needs for and felt good taking care of him.

He got married, divorced, came back to Tijuana after 2 years, trying to pick up a tiny 18 YO Chicago girl for a GF. Her older sister was also working in Chicago and fuck guys for money but this little girl just got tout of high school and would only do ficha drinks, earning only a few dollars a night. He was trying hard to woo her with his caring generosity, buying her fichas, cheap presents, arranging dates for dinner and dance etc. We gave her a long taxi ride at 2 AM all the way out to La mesa on the East side of Tijuana. The whole town was sleepy, dark and deserted like a cemetery. She was living with her parents in a tiny brick house in a dirt alley. He was kissing and groping her good bye in front of her parents' house. She did not resist but was clearly disappointed, that she made only a few dollars for the night, and he did not offer her more propinas. I was all pissed off at this asshole for trying to seduce and take advantage of such a poor, innocent girl.

In Hong Kong, a stripper was smiling and flirting, singling him out to offer any sex acts he wanted in the hotel for $40. Later she came on to him again, offering him all night sex in her apartment, then breakfast in the morning. More sex, then a ride to the border. He did not take her offer because he was carpooling. Damn.

I will leave it up to you guys to interpret the story and figure out the key factors that would gain you the chicas' attraction, affection and the hottest sex.

Anything is possible, depending on the individuals' quality, capability and drive. Just let the dumb losers [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on your parade.


I think you may be right. Before going arriba, she had asked me how many times have I been to Adelitas. I told her 3 times and she was like, no no, and held up 7 fingers, so she has noticed me there before. I kinda stand out amongst other Asians because I have blue hair with a Japanese hair style. She also mentioned she gets off at 2 am. The sex was very hot and passionate, we were both sweating a lot afterward. She finished me off being on top and slamming down on me hard, my chest hurts now where she placed hands for balance.

Jackie888
06-23-15, 01:36
Trust. Many of these girls are here because some knocked them up, then shacked up with someone else. So now they're stuck doing this for a living until their kid (s) are grown. Therefore when they find someone that they can trust, a romance can spark. Being short was an advantage because he was less intimidating. Being Asian was an advantage because culturally, Asians are a more polite and reserved. In other words, he was the polar opposite of the guy who knocked her up.

And lastly, I know that it's sounds crazy. But I think that Mexican women have a fetish for Asian guys.

AnonX69
06-23-15, 11:11
Don't feel bad. Most of these girls are academy award winning actresses by the way they play their parts. More than one guy has fallen head over heels for a bar girl (me included)! But, I've got to say that you're handling this much better than, say, a certain poster on this board a few months back. *shudder

Best of luck to you!Thanks for the info and thanks goes out to capt solo and others as well for showing us the idiosyncrasies of Tijuana. Chicas who give me a good GFE will earn my loyalty for a week or two. I'm not there looking for a GF, I'm there to get my dick wet. I think someone stated it best "love them all and fuck them all". LOL. So I'm not really bothered if they fall for me or not, but a good GFE really makes it more fun. I do think I get GFE mostly because play coy with the chicas and it not something they are used to. When I'm sitting with them, I don't grope them like most guys would. I would touch them in places like the inner thighs lightly brushing against their muffin, running my hands on their tummy from behind up to the underside of breasts. Or when they try to kiss me, I would turn my head and shake a finger at them explaining that I'm Asian and we don't kiss in public, but then the next second, plant a. Passionate kiss they didn't expect. Most of the time, they would look at me with puppy eyes, begging me " please". This is when I know we will both have fun. I guess everyone get this vibes and things click. When I don't get that eye to eye contact, like lovers anticipating their first night together, then I would move on. To me its a game, half the fun is making them want you as much as you want them. Of course having dollars doesn't hurt either.

RickyVee
06-23-15, 14:54
Who knows why these girls do what they do. Most if not all are fucked in the head. Maybe some genuinely like a certain type of man but what I think Jackie is trying to express is that somehow Asian men are less Alpha then Latino men. In some regards that may be true, however I find that being Alpha will get you laid more frequently and uninhibited than being a beta walking ATM with these broads. At the end of the day they are trying to take care of their families. Many Mexican men fuck and chuck most are married with sometimes other families on the side. It is a natural occurrence in Mexican male culture the epitome of Alpha male behavior Remember biology is not a choice and if at one time a women was attracted enough to a certain type of man to procreate with then trust and believe he will go back to the well again at some point to satisfy her thirst. At the end of the day if one is looking for GFE type sex then visiting hooker bars is not for you there are plenty if civilian bars that you can catch normal women, I don't even know if they exist because all women working girl themselves out In some fashion, personally I would rather deal with working girls because they are honest with their intentions.

Captain Solo
06-23-15, 15:59
I guess you are right, that the guy I mentioned looks and acts like a harmless young boy. He's dumb but the chicas like him because he appears non threatening to them.

Some of the chicas do have a fetish for Asian guys. I know a few of the sweetest-looking young girls in Hong Kong and Adelita, who left the profession, married Asian guys, have babies, settled down and raised their families.

Not sure if you guys can recognize this HK girl in the pics. I blurred her face to protect her privacy. But to prove the point, she was one of the sweetest-looking girl in HK. She married an Asian guy. In the pic she looked full of love and happines.


Trust. Many of these girls are here because some knocked them up, then shacked up with someone else. So now they're stuck doing this for a living until their kid (s) are grown. Therefore when they find someone that they can trust, a romance can spark. Being short was an advantage because he was less intimidating. Being Asian was an advantage because culturally, Asians are a more polite and reserved. In other words, he was the polar opposite of the guy who knocked her up.

And lastly, I know that it's sounds crazy. But I think that Mexican women have a fetish for Asian guys.

GolfSexRroll
06-23-15, 16:30
Thanks for the info and thanks goes out to capt solo and others as well for showing us the idiosyncrasies of Tijuana. Chicas who give me a good GFE will earn my loyalty for a week or two. I'm not there looking for a GF, I'm there to get my dick wet. I think someone stated it best "love them all and fuck them all". LOL. So I'm not really bothered if they fall for me or not, but a good GFE really makes it more fun. I do think I get GFE mostly because play coy with the chicas and it not something they are used to. When I'm sitting with them, I don't grope them like most guys would. I would touch them in places like the inner thighs lightly brushing against their muffin, running my hands on their tummy from behind up to the underside of breasts. Or when they try to kiss me, I would turn my head and shake a finger at them explaining that I'm Asian and we don't kiss in public, but then the next second, plant a. Passionate kiss they didn't expect. Most of the time, they would look at me with puppy eyes, begging me " please". This is when I know we will both have fun. I guess everyone get this vibes and things click. When I don't get that eye to eye contact, like lovers anticipating their first night together, then I would move on. To me its a game, half the fun is making them want you as much as you want them. Of course having dollars doesn't hurt either.Genes are on your side. Tijuana bar girls LOVE Asians! Make it WORK for you!

Captain Solo
06-23-15, 17:42
Look for this sexy nymph Rosela in HK.

She's tall, pretty, light-skinned, sometimes wearing long curly dark hair, sometimes a weird Mohawk hairdo with half her head shaved off.

She's one of the best-looking, sexiest young girl in HK, passionate and insatiable.


Rosela, the tall, beautiful HK stripper, would go crazy over short, little Asian guys. Rosela turns out to be bisexual with cravings for sexual domination. She would fuck the shit out of little Asian guys in the hotel.

Phordphan
06-23-15, 18:21
Aww man, and here I thought she like me. Oh well, I don't intend to get emotionally involved with these BGs anyways. Most of them have kids and I'm not an instant daddy, stir and mix. I'll probably bang her one more time and move on. Or just move on and look for Wynona doppelganger.Just to clarify, I didn't say that she didn't like you, or didn't enjoy the session. I was simply saying, after an arduous session, that she wasn't telling you that she was horny. She probably really likes you. Or not, who knows?

AnonX69
06-24-15, 01:25
Just to clarify, I didn't say that she didn't like you, or didn't enjoy the session. I was simply saying, after an arduous session, that she wasn't telling you that she was horny. She probably really likes you. Or not, who knows?Don't take anything I say at face value. Most. Of the time I add a little humor into what I write usually poking fun at myself. Everyone's input and experience is welcome, especially if it's something I don't want to admit to myself. So cheers. If you ever see an Asian guy with blue anime hair style, stop by and say Hi. I'll buy you a round.

Jackie888
06-24-15, 02:22
Don't take anything I say at face value. Most. Of the time I add a little humor into what I write usually poking fun at myself. Everyone's input and experience is welcome, especially if it's something I don't want to admit to myself. So cheers. If you ever see an Asian guy with blue anime hair style, stop by and say Hi. I'll buy you a round.Do you recall the name of the chica from HK that played the Price is Right upstairs with you? Or where or what she looks like? I would prefer to avoid her if possible.

ClamSlammer
06-24-15, 02:32
Genes are on your side. Tijuana bar girls LOVE Asians! Make it WORK for you!From my observations this is definitely true. Go to MQ at 5 am on any given weekend night and you'll see all the hottest off-duty HK putas are all with Asians. It's a shame we have a blatantly racist poster on this board, SBEACH25, who openly writes that Asians are "stupid" and have "no game" when in fact quite the opposite is true. Instead of realizing he's really creepy looking, he blames his inability to get laid in a Tijuana *****house on "stupid Asians with no game. " I've had extensive OTC experiences with HK girls and sometimes they bring their sisters, cousins or friends and their boyfriends and every time they are with an Asian. I've literally never seen any of these chicas OTC with a non-Asian.

The Tall Man
06-24-15, 02:45
And lastly, I know that it's sounds crazy. But I think that Mexican women have a fetish for Asian guys.The Tijuana workers that I have had spoken to about Asian guys (the last as recent as last week) give me 2 reasons why they like Asians (1) They typically tip and pay well and buy many fisha drinks and (2) the Asian dicks are typically small so they don't have to hassle big dick guys (yes were more work for their often used pussies).

The Tall Man.

John Gault
06-24-15, 04:12
The Tijuana workers that I have had spoken to about Asian guys (the last as recent as last week) give me 2 reasons why they like Asians (1) They typically tip and pay well and buy many fisha drinks and (2) the Asian dicks are typically small so they don't have to hassle big dick guys (yes were more work for their often used pussies).

The Tall Man.From all the porn people watch the idea is that woman crave the big dick. That maybe so with some non pros, but most working girls like less wear, and tear on them.

Jackie888
06-24-15, 05:46
The Tijuana workers that I have had spoken to about Asian guys (the last as recent as last week) give me 2 reasons why they like Asians (1) They typically tip and pay well and buy many fisha drinks and (2) the Asian dicks are typically small so they don't have to hassle big dick guys (yes were more work for their often used pussies).

The Tall Man.A while back I was having dinner with a Chica. Because we were good friends, we were always very candid with each other. During our conversation, I asked her what to describe the perfect man for a Mexican woman. She thinks about it for a while, then points to her waist and said "From the waist up, Asian. But from the waist down, Mexican. Understand?" I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair.

But anyways, I formed my opinion actually based on my observations away from the Zona, particularly dealing with Mexican Chicas of middle and upper class. It was weird because women in the US generally ignore my physical attributes. I'm not tall nor handsome. So I remembered thinking to myself that the last time I was the center of this much affection I was surrounded by a lot of Jewish women. Anyways I'm not suggesting that Asian men are more attractive than men of other ethnicity, but just that Mexican women in particular have a thing for Asian men.

TomJackin
06-24-15, 06:16
The Tijuana workers that I have had spoken to about Asian guys (the last as recent as last week) give me 2 reasons why they like Asians (1) They typically tip and pay well and buy many fisha drinks and (2) the Asian dicks are typically small so they don't have to hassle big dick guys (yes were more work for their often used pussies).

The Tall Man.Those are the same answers I get:

They pay more!

They have smaller dicks and are quicker to get off!

There is no fetish, just business as usual!

ClamSlammer
06-24-15, 08:18
Those are the same answers I get:

They pay more!

They have smaller dicks and are quicker to get off!

There is no fetish, just business as usual!It may not be a fetish but they are preferred and not for the reasons above. They get the most OTC free ass by far so money has nothing to do with it.

AnonX69
06-24-15, 11:21
I didn't mean to open this can of worms. I only mentioned that I stand out amongst other Asians because I have blue hair. I've read posts claiming Asians this and that and how we ruined the pricing for other mongers. The same can be said of other ethnicity in the Asian mongering scenes. It doesn't matter who's alpha or beta, who has a big dick or little one, who is fat or skinny, tall or short. We come to this forum because we share common interests, and they ares Tijuana and the chicas. I. love reading about other's experiences and learn from them and to share my own, for those that come after me.

Chances are I won't be in the Tijuana scene after Dec because I have a 3 months assignment in Japan and China. South of the border scene is new to me so I'm just having fun and making the best of it, as we all should. BTW, what does OTC mean. Doh.

The Cane
06-24-15, 11:34
Those are the same answers I get:

They pay more!

They have smaller dicks and are quicker to get off!

There is no fetish, just business as usual!Thanks for keeping it real and setting the record straight. Just can't believe the posts of some of these people. Too many of the Asian guys just easily throw the money around and are less demanding. And this is the only reason why they might be "preferred" by some of the tutes. It's business, and all the rest of the jabber around this is pure nonsense! I've had girls tell me the exact same thing they've told you, including the little dick part.

Jackie888
06-24-15, 16:15
I regret bringing the fetish issue up. Obviously many are unable to distinguish between it and the word preference. Clearly some people feel very uncomfortable with the issue, perhaps due to an issue of self-perception. So let's just move the discussion on before we have more misunderstandings.

Therefore the question I pose is "are there clubs (other than La Vueva) Outside the Zona to visit, or is the Zona is as good as it gets in Tijuana?

AnonX69
06-24-15, 21:52
Thanks for keeping it real and setting the record straight. Just can't believe the posts of some of these people. Too many of the Asian guys just easily throw the money around and are less demanding. And this is the only reason why they might be "preferred" by some of the tutes. It's business, and all the rest of the jabber around this is pure nonsense! I've had girls tell me the exact same thing they've told you, including the little dick part.Damn you brother Wang, brother wu, brother Lee and brother Chan. I've met a couple FOB Koreans a week ago in Tijuana and gave them info about the area. I'm glad I use this forum and learned from others' experiences. I've never paid more than $60, and if the lay was exceptional I may tip them 100 peso, $50 at Las Chevalas. I've walked out on a HK girl because she changed her price from 70 to 80 when we went upstairs. I worked hard to get her down from 100 to 70 down at the bar. But when she did that, I said "fuck you" and walked out.

Maybe you guys should pull my cousins aside and set them straight. If see them, I'll be sure to do the same. For now, I'm off to find Wynona, and if she charges me 100, she better let me call her Wynona for the night.

ClamSlammer
06-24-15, 22:06
Thanks for keeping it real and setting the record straight. Just can't believe the posts of some of these people. Too many of the Asian guys just easily throw the money around and are less demanding. And this is the only reason why they might be "preferred" by some of the tutes. It's business, and all the rest of the jabber around this is pure nonsense! I've had girls tell me the exact same thing they've told you, including the little dick part.They "throw" money around? Maybe the older ones do. The younger ones don't. And they're the ones getting all the free ass. And logic would dictate that smaller dicks take longer to get off, with all other factors roughly equal. Those of you that just see them at HK and the zona may think there's no preference but once you get to see them in their personal lives there most definitely is a preference for Asians.

Jackie888
06-25-15, 01:52
Yes I must admit, this Asian do tend to spend more freely than most. I generally up to 700 at and Las Chevelas and Tropicals, and 800 at HK. I will even entertain 1000 for Greek at HK if I feel extra generous. But then I get generally the best looking ones and rarely settle for 2nd tier women. And yes, I often pull women off of Mongers with a wink when I am impatient.

But I work hard for my earnings. Not just now, but my entire life. Why should I lower myself to the level of riff raffs and pay less? So that poor, lazy and those men of inferior intellect will be my equal when competing for women? My answer for those who question my spending habit is. Get a real job, work harder, make more money, dress better, treat women better. That way you won't have to blame other people for the loser you see in the mirror every morning.

Yes I'm a high roller. I'm a spender. But it is my fucking money. And I'll spend it as I see fit.

Phordphan
06-25-15, 02:41
Therefore the question I pose is "are there clubs (other than La Vueva) Outside the Zona to visit, or is the Zona is as good as it gets in Tijuana?Man, if the Zona is as good as it gets, then there's no point in going to Tijuana.

I guess it depends on what you want. If you're after a gringo-centric experience then the ZN is probably where you want to be.

La Cueva is fun, IMHO, but I think I've only seen a couple of gringos, and no Chinos. 7 de copas is good, I've been told. I plan to go, but something always comes up.

Amnesia on Revu is expensive, but the girls are pretty. Some guys swear by it.

I think that's about it for the typical "strip club" action. There are loads of bars with girls available, all decidedly local.

Of course, for high rollers like yourself I suspect you'd prefer Amnesia to the other down-scale places like Copa and Cueva. Too much Riff Raff and too many poorly dressed Mexicans with fake jobs, who don't work hard.

Jackie888
06-25-15, 03:47
Man, if the Zona is as good as it gets, then there's no point in going to Tijuana.

I guess it depends on what you want. If you're after a gringo-centric experience then the ZN is probably where you want to be.

La Cueva is fun, IMHO, but I think I've only seen a couple of gringos, and no Chinos. 7 de copas is good, I've been told. I plan to go, but something always comes up.

Amnesia on Revu is expensive, but the girls are pretty. Some guys swear by it.

I think that's about it for the typical "strip club" action. There are loads of bars with girls available, all decidedly local.

Of course, for high rollers like yourself I suspect you'd prefer Amnesia to the other down-scale places like Copa and Cueva. Too much Riff Raff and too many poorly dressed Mexicans with fake jobs, who don't work hard.BTW, that's how much I spend in pesos.

Batuk
06-25-15, 06:57
Those are the same answers I get:

They pay more!

They have smaller dicks and are quicker to get off!

There is no fetish, just business as usual!Hmm. I have had OTC with 3 different chicas. Even outside Tijuana. Are we talking about yellow Asians only here or brown ones too? I had read in this forum that Asian guys are every putas wet dream.

Phordphan
06-25-15, 06:59
BTW, that's how much I spend in pesos.I know, I was just busting your balls.

Phordphan
06-25-15, 07:03
Hmm. I have had OTC with 3 different chicas. Even outside Tijuana. Are we talking about yellow Asians only here or brown ones too? I had read in this forum that Asian guys are every putas wet dream.Don't know. Rumors abound, but I believe few of them.

I do know one thing. A few years ago I was walking down Beach Road in Pattaya with a dark-skinned Isaan sweetie I'd picked up earlier. Just then a bus stopped and disgorged about a bazillion package-tourist Chinese. We've all seen them. Quite a sight. Anyway, Ms. Isaan grinned, and in a conspiratorial fashion lowered her voice and whispered in my ear "Chinee man hab samall banana!" Then giggled. :D

So, now we know.

TomJackin
06-25-15, 08:29
Hmm. I have had OTC with 3 different chicas. Even outside Tijuana. Are we talking about yellow Asians only here or brown ones too? I had read in this forum that Asian guys are every putas wet dream.I'm not sure what OTC means as well; "over the counter" relations?

Either way, if you and others had free sex with a puta, that's just fine. Keep in mind, nothing is free in life. I for one will always pay because the girls come to Tijuana for several reasons, to support their children and families are big reasons. Thus, even though some of my favorites don't mention money, I still put money in their purse before they leave. For me, it is just the right thing to do.

I spent a long time in HK over the past 5 years, and if I'm not watching dancers, I'm watching interactions between others, girls and clients. I've seen a lot of money throw around by many, but especially Asians, and not the Asians from India or Pakistan. During my long military career, I spent years all over Asia, so I know the difference.

I know many girls in HK, and many have expressed the same thoughts. They see men with money as a way out of their crappy lives, and many of the locals or cheap ass Americans do not give them that option. Thus, many tend to be attracted to Asian men. Is that bad? No, it is smart on their part; more money and support in the long run.

As for me, I have many favorites in the different bars and in the street. I support them WHEN I'm with them; and that's it.

Hopefully I am clearer on my views and opinions.

The wet dreams posts might be posted by other Asians.:)

ScatManDoo
06-25-15, 09:49
I'm not sure what OTC means as well; "over the counter" relations?Outside of the club.

AnonX69
06-25-15, 11:31
So I headed down to Tijuana tonight looking for Wynona. I got to HK at around 7 pm and asked a couple of meseros but weren't quite sure. One said she is the prettiest one there, but then again he may say that about all the girls when someone is looking for a specific girl. After looking upstairs and in the dressing room, he comes back to tell me she starts at 8.

So I decided to get some dinner at Sonora grill and order a med rare rib eye. It was the worst steak I ever had, the rib eye, if it was rib eye was about a 1\4/ inch think and was so damn early. It tasted like corn beef and tough as leather. After killing the baked potato and the veggies, I headed back to HK to look for her again and failed again. Man can this night get any worst.

I wound up spending some time with a really pretty chica with shoulder length hair. Asked her to go arriba after one drink but she wouldn't budge from $100. Wtf, I'm not some FOB. HK may have the hottest putas but they are starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. God damn generic Viagra is going to waste. Spent the rest of the night by the stage and noticed something very peculiar. After the dancers get off the stage, a guy gets up to collect her tips from the floor and set it aside for her. She then counts her money and leave $5 for him. One girl only made like 7 dollars but left 5 for the stage guy. What's up with that.

I decided to head back to San Diego at around 11:30 and saw two guys fighting in the ready lane by the duty free shop. Next thing you know, 6 policias come running from both directions and whisked them away. Ha-ha, have a fun night in Tijuana jail, my night just got a whole lot better because someone is going to have a worst night than I did.

Ath Trainer
06-25-15, 13:12
I'm not sure what OTC means as well; "over the counter" relations?

Either way, if you and others had free sex with a puta, that's just fine. Keep in mind, nothing is free in life. I for one will always pay because the girls come to Tijuana for several reasons, to support their children and families are big reasons. Thus, even though some of my favorites don't mention money, I still put money in their purse before they leave. For me, it is just the right thing to do.

I spent a long time in HK over the past 5 years, and if I'm not watching dancers, I'm watching interactions between others, girls and clients. I've seen a lot of money throw around by many, but especially Asians, and not the Asians from India or Pakistan. During my long military career, I spent years all over Asia, so I know the difference.

I know many girls in HK, and many have expressed the same thoughts. They see men with money as a way out of their crappy lives, and many of the locals or cheap ass Americans do not give them that option. Thus, many tend to be attracted to Asian men. Is that bad? No, it is smart on their part; more money and support in the long run.

As for me, I have many favorites in the different bars and in the street. I support them WHEN I'm with them; and that's it.

Hopefully I am clearer on my views and opinions.


The wet dreams posts might be posted by other Asians.:)OTC stands for "out of the club".

Captain Solo
06-25-15, 13:53
Clam is right.

I know quite a few sweetest-looking young bar girls who dated Asian guys after their shifts. These girls know life is hard and they have to find guys in whom they can trust and have hope for loving and stable relationships.

Some married these guys and settled down to raise their families. Their pictures of social and family gatherings showed lots of mixed-race couples with lots of children. The sweet-looking HK girl was holding her half Asian baby with so much love and care, she made my heart sink.

The Asian guy who ran the now-defunct restaurant next to Chicago Club also married a young HK girl. She quit her HK job and helped her hubbie run that restaurant. They were struggling with that business, but she did quit the puta life style.

My observation is that Mexican girls date these Asian guys Outside The Club because they find them honest, caring, respectful, trustworthy etc. Suitable for long-term relationships or marriage, not only because they throw money around.

OTOH, I know guys who bullshit and play stupid games with HK chicas, pissing them off, and got thrown out of the club. Hehehe.


They "throw" money around? Maybe the older ones do. The younger ones don't. And they're the ones getting all the free ass. And logic would dictate that smaller dicks take longer to get off, with all other factors roughly equal. Those of you that just see them at HK and the zona may think there's no preference but once you get to see them in their personal lives there most definitely is a preference for Asians.

ClamSlammer
06-25-15, 14:30
The hot HK chicas most definitely prefer Asians in their personal life. If you don't see this then you are a Tijuana amateur who knows nothing that goes on outside of HK. It's arguable that you probably don't even know what goes on inside HK. Go to MQ, Valentina, Alebrije, Onexeus, Copeo, LE Conteiner and even Plaza Rio where off-duty putas can be spotted and if they're with a guy then there's a 90% chance she's with an Asian.

Jackie888
06-25-15, 18:15
Dammit! Now Anonx69 has me wondering who this Winona is. Think I am going to have to make a recon mission soon to find out who this prettiest girl is.

BTW, Funny thing about having a relationship with a HK girl is that they are a little more liberal with the commitment issue. I've had several chicas tell me explicitly that if I was their Novio, they wouldn't mind me sleeping with other women ONLY if the other girl was a HK girl. However I cannot sleep with a Las Chevelas or Tropicals girl because it would be a personal insult if I were to sleep with a fat girl. And two weeks ago, one Tropical chica said it was she would be insulted if I slept with a Las Chevelas girl and tip more than 400 p. She was very adamant that I only tip a Las Chevelas chica 300 p. Pretty tribal. I was tempted to call up someone I knew from the UCSD social science dept and have her do her doctorate thesis on the Zona girls.

Captain Solo
06-25-15, 20:04
She's a tiny little girl, her face looking somewhat like Wynona Ryder. Her name is Italia. Ask the big fat security guy with a clip board at the front door. He signs the chicas in and out, so he should know.

But for a young girl, she has large bags under her eyes like she was an older woman.

Personally I don't think either Wynona Ryder or HK's Italia are that pretty. Italia is like 5 feet 80 lbs. I prefer chicas who look healthier and livelier than her.

I am sure if you spend the money, you can call her whatever names you like. Hehe.

Captain Solo
06-25-15, 20:55
Per Dictionary.com fetish.

1. an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.

2. any object, idea, etc. , eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion:

To make a fetish of high grades.

3. Psychology. Any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.

I guess I am not that deep into these kinky sex things so my use of the word may not be correct.

Fetish may be inaccurate and too strong a word for this situation. Preference may be the proper word. I don't think there are many perverted or kinky sexual desires by Mexican chicas for Asian guys, more like their preferences for the companies of guys who are not rough, violent, abusive, irresponsible, uncaring, selfish, unprincipled ect. Like the trash who fucked them, knocked them up then abandoned them and their babies.

I hope Mexico will soon find effective ways to help unwed mothers collect child supports, so assholes cannot just corrupt and fuck these naive young girls, get them pregnant then run off to fuck other girls. Child support legislation and implementation similar to the US will straighten out abusive, irresponsible assholes and prevent more bastards to grow up into the puta lifestyles or joining drug cartels to torture and murder.

This little, sweet-looking HK girl was lucky she did not get fucked by stupid assholes and saddled with bastard children. She found love and happiness with her Asian hubby and her baby in Tijuana. I was floored by how much love and care she had for her baby and her hubby.


I regret bringing the fetish issue up. Obviously many are unable to distinguish between it and the word preference. Clearly some people feel very uncomfortable with the issue, perhaps due to an issue of self-perception. So let's just move the discussion on before we have more misunderstandings.

Therefore the question I pose is "are there clubs (other than La Vueva) Outside the Zona to visit, or is the Zona is as good as it gets in Tijuana?

AnonX69
06-26-15, 01:04
Dammit! Now Anonx69 has me wondering who this Winona is. Think I am going to have to make a recon mission soon to find out who this prettiest girl is.

BTW, Funny thing about having a relationship with a HK girl is that they are a little more liberal with the commitment issue. I've had several chicas tell me explicitly that if I was their Novio, they wouldn't mind me sleeping with other women ONLY if the other girl was a HK girl. However I cannot sleep with a Las Chevelas or Tropicals girl because it would be a personal insult if I were to sleep with a fat girl. And two weeks ago, one Tropical chica said it was she would be insulted if I slept with a Las Chevelas girl and tip more than 400 p. She was very adamant that I only tip a Las Chevelas chica 300 p. Pretty tribal. I was tempted to call up someone I knew from the UCSD social science dept and have her do her doctorate thesis on the Zona girls.How can they tell if we're with putas who another bar. I smell fat pussies on you. LOL. I poked my head into las Chaveles last night while looking for Winona and spotted about half a dozen tall and slim chicas. Two really nice chicas entered and was carded by the doorman, so it peaked my interest. I guess they don't work there.

SBeach25
06-26-15, 02:07
How can they tell if we're with putas who another bar. I smell fat pussies on you. LOL. I poked my head into las Chaveles last night while looking for Winona and spotted about half a dozen tall and slim chicas. Two really nice chicas entered and was carded by the doorman, so it peaked my interest. I guess they don't work there.They were in HK before but then came to LC. One was a solid 10 in my opinion. They were there to chill and checked out the scene and band. Damn, wanted to approach but the guy with them was kinda on guard.

Jackie888
06-26-15, 04:05
How can they tell if we're with putas who another bar. I smell fat pussies on you. LOL. I poked my head into las Chaveles last night while looking for Winona and spotted about half a dozen tall and slim chicas. Two really nice chicas entered and was carded by the doorman, so it peaked my interest. I guess they don't work there.There is some sort of girl shuffling at the moment. I notice it last week. But Tropicals, Chevelas and HK share ownership. And girls from HK and Tropicals often hang out at Las Chevelas in between shifts because its HK can be real crowded and Tropicals' air conditioner may be out like its usually is. Chevelas do have some thin girls, but the majority is on the thicker side.

Jackie888
06-26-15, 04:09
Solo, I think I recognize her. Real thin girl. Flawless complexion and often in a 2 piece string bikini right? Actually she is extremely skinny I believe.

RickyVee
06-26-15, 05:38
All right enough already with this Asian preference or fetish. My guess would be that most of the chicas that like the type are mid to late 20's looking for a cuck hold. It would seem to me for a better lack of term they would be more appropriately a Beta provider. I guess Asians fit the profile. Personally as a man I would be offended by this. A lot a captain save a hoes on this thread. Looking for a LTR in a working girl is about as smart as sticking your dick in a cheese grater. If you want these women sexual best, which seems to be the case (ie free sex) you will never get it because the dude who is the reason she is there already got it. I don't know about why'all but I would not want to pay for some putas kid that is not mine, to each his own. We should be fucking and chucking as mongers period. Enough of the pissing contest of who gets what. It is a game you pay you fuck you leave. Guess there are a lot of lonely men but love is over rated and so is marriage. I'm guessing most of us on here been there done that and probably share my sentiments. Lets stick to the fuck reports so we know who stay away from or who to fuck. Just hope they restock the stable soon because some of these hoes is looking tired as fuck lately.

TomJackin
06-26-15, 06:39
Lots of riveting decision on the these threads.

OK, here is what I do understand:

Many guys get free pussy from putas; doesn't seem like a hard task, because they are already putas. I don't get free pussy from putas, mainly because I'm old, fat, hairy, ugly as sin, and sometimes smelly; fair enough. My hat is off to the others that score free pussy with putas.

However, here is what I don't understand and maybe the experts on this board with help me understand:

Why, would any LOSER from any country go to a third-world country and marry a puta? I mean, this was a girl that sucked and fucked 2-5 different guys a day. Which would make her quality wife material. Anyone that does have to marry a third-world puta must be pretty fucking desperate for a wife. Oh, and I'm sure they live a happy normal life. I can just hear the conversations at the dinner table, "Remember when I had to wait 3 hours for you in HK while you were being ficha fucked and afterwards that dude fucked your ass real good?"

Calling all the experts on your opinions!

Gsil247
06-26-15, 07:01
Lots of riveting decision on the these threads.

Why, would any LOSER from any country go to a third-world country and marry a puta? I mean, this was a girl that sucked and fucked 2-5 different guys a day. Which would make her quality wife material. Anyone that does have to marry a third-world puta must be pretty fucking desperate for a wife. Oh, and I'm sure they live a happy normal life. I can just hear the conversations at the dinner table, "Remember when I had to wait 3 hours for you in HK while you were being ficha fucked and afterwards that dude fucked your ass real good?"

Calling all the experts on your opinions!I normally stay out of these arguments, but I had to say something. Let's not kid ourselves here, I don't think most of us would say we're exactly experts on getting girls, which is why we pay for sex. So let me quote someone who IS an expert on woman, Dr Dre. He said something that I will always remember, "can't make a hoe a housewife. It's just not going to work out for the dude."

I myself grew up in the hood. I've seen hoes live there life and even get married. I thought to myself, he's wrong. After years gone by, I've seen these women do nothing but stick to what they know. Now I'm not saying these woman are bad people. We're not any better for paying for pussy, I'm just saying, if a woman can be bought, she's not worth having.

Tom, with all due respect, I don't normally agree with the shit you say. But in this case, your 100% right.

AnonX69
06-26-15, 13:14
She's a tiny little girl, her face looking somewhat like Wynona Ryder. Her name is Italia. Ask the big fat security guy with a clip board at the front door. He signs the chicas in and out, so he should know.

But for a young girl, she has large bags under her eyes like she was an older woman.

Personally I don't think either Wynona Ryder or HK's Italia are that pretty. Italia is like 5 feet 80 lbs. I prefer chicas who look healthier and livelier than her.

I am sure if you spend the money, you can call her whatever names you like. Hehe.Thanks mate, someone said her name is Luna, so I kept asking for Luna. Perhaps there are two Winona look alike. Weeee, more fun hunting. Maybe working this hours has taken a toll on her. I remember working as a night auditor for Marriott for 3 years while studying for my financial analyst exams, made me aged like 10 years.

Jackie888
06-26-15, 16:19
How can they tell if we're with putas who another bar. I smell fat pussies on you. LOL. I poked my head into las Chaveles last night while looking for Winona and spotted about half a dozen tall and slim chicas. Two really nice chicas entered and was carded by the doorman, so it peaked my interest. I guess they don't work there.Forgot to answer your initial question. Fat girls do smell different to me. Maybe it's my nostrils, but in general it does smell different. Just try one, you'll see what I'm talking about. You don't have to have sex. Just slow dance with one at any of the clubs.

Exoticspirit
06-26-15, 18:01
All right enough already with this Asian preference or fetish.

We should be fucking and chucking as mongers period. Enough of the pissing contest of who gets what. It is a game you pay you fuck you leave. Been just observing the posts on Asian stuff without saying anything but I guess it's about time I chime in since I also happen to be Asian, but more specifically, a banana. Born, raised in North America, talk like one and can be as bad assed as any white or black dudes out there! But seriously, when it comes to whether the Mexican chicks like Asians more or whatever, I personally don't care less.

The putas might think I have a small or average size dick or whatever. I really don't care. Because in my mind, I am still the customer and I don't care what she likes or not.

Yeah, if the Asian fetish is true, my guess is that Asians might be more gentle with the women since overall we might be more reserved and conservative. Add that to our dick size, this means that the putas will have an easier job with us. But overall, again, I don't care if this is true or not because I as the customer, am the one paying for a service.

This Asian, maybe unlike other Asians, certainly do no overpay. In fact, I might even be on the cheap side! I would bargain and get the best deals I can.

And yes, maybe it could be true that some Asian guys go after Mexican putas for relationships because they have no game at home. Well, I for one have already been through relationships at home and I'm a bit tired from them emotionally so I'm taking a break. So when I go down to Tijuana in September, I am most certainly not seeking a relationship. I'm just there to fuck. Hell, I'm not even going to go down back to the bar with the putas after the deeds are done. What the heck for? Service and payment has been done and I'm in no mood to pursue anything else with the putas, especially since I'm there for only 48 hours.

I do feel for my Asian brothers if they are pursuing relationships with putas whether they know it or not. I agree that this is just hot water they are getting into. If I want a relationship, I most certainly will not go after a working girl.

However, where the Asian thing does interest me a bit is not so much with the girls. But if I can use my Asian looks to my advantage to keep me out of trouble, I will. If I get hassled by pester vendors on the streets, I might pretend not to be able to understand English or Spanish. That might put them off.

And I am a former competitive martial artist who also has some muscles. If I'm walking around, it might be to my advantage to wear a tank top because for some silly reason, many latinos and Caribbeans in my past observation, automatically assume all Asian dudes are into martial arts, which in my case happens to be true. Maybe those asshole Mexican cops will not bother me. Not saying that this will work or will not work, but it probably won't hurt to use whatever I can to avoid trouble.

Jackie888
06-26-15, 20:37
Boy,

Do I regret suggesting the Asian Fetish.

I mistyped and wish to make a correction. Mexican women may seem to have a liking for men who look like they are in decent health, in their late 20's-30's, with a stable and decent job, without excessive baggage like grown children older than they are, reasonably dressed, possibly wanting a family, non-judgement of a woman's employment choices, non-abusive, non-violent, and not overly frugal.

If one falls under this category, then one is a Chica's wet dream regardless of race, nationality, color, or creed. I know what people are thinking. Those crazy Mexican girls. What are they thinking?

AnonX69
06-26-15, 22:23
Been just observing the posts on Asian stuff without saying anything but I guess it's about time I chime in since I also happen to be Asian, but more specifically, a banana. Born, raised in North America, talk like one and can be as bad assed as any white or black dudes out there! But seriously, when it comes to whether the Mexican chicks like Asians more or whatever, I personally don't care less.

The putas might think I have a small or average size dick or whatever. I really don't care. Because in my mind, I am still the customer and I don't care what she likes or not.I'm of the same mind as you. I don't act or behave like the asian stereotypes. I was born in Hawaii, 50% Viet, 25% jap, 25% chino. Unlike on the mainland, in Hawaii, Asians are a 75% majority. We tend to be the alphas, in politics, business, sports, and most aspects of society. We even use the derogatory Hawaiian word for Caucasians, haole in everyday use, it's equivalent to using the and word. When anything goes wrong we blame it on the stupid haoles and beat them up if they look at us funny. I still carry that dominant mentality living on the mainland, but no longer stereotype other ethnicity having lived abroad, so I value differences in a group, it helps open our close minded views.

Now, in my mid 30's going on 40, I've learned one thing, the proverb, he who talks the most and loudest, has very little to say, is true. I'm more weary of the quiet and reserved ones, because I don't know what are their intentions.

I go to Tijuana for fun, some nights, I don't even care if I get pussies or not. I'm cheap, I don't like to be ripped off and very frugal, that's the Chinese side of me. I spend freely When with friends, because I don't do dutch and split bills, that's the Vietnamese side. I'm sure the Asians people seen throwing money around are viets, we like to party hard, spend like there's no tomorrow on our friends and expect the same of them. I've only been going to Tijuana for about a month and seen every kind of people throw money around when the chica has their weewee all worked up.

Captain Solo
06-27-15, 01:52
She's 5 feet, may be 80-90 lbs, average figure, not bone thin, long dark straight hair to her shoulder.

Light skin, no tattoos, pretty face but with bags under her eyes like she's been up all night for the whole month, passionately screwing Asians bareback in all kinky positions. Hehe.

She hangs out at the bar near the corner of pista Norte. She's so new I don't think the other chicas know who she is.

About a year ago, There was another tall, skinny girl in HK who looked like Wynona. I have not seen her and forgot her name. She has skinny body, smooth skin, pretty face and 2 long tattoos of bow ties on the calves of both legs. She was pretty until she took her panties off. The whole room stank like a big bucket of dead, rotten fish. I asked her to wash up but she could not get rid of the stench. I was totally disgusted. If the chicas are going to rent out their pussies, they should at least follow proper maintenance procedures. Hehe.

I suggest the bros to do the dead fish test in the bar. Just give the girls propinas into their panties, but make sure to stick at least half a finger into their pussies. Sniff your finger for any trace of dead, rotten fish before buying fichas or taking the chicas upstairs.

Or bite the $ in your teeth then make an earnest effort to insert it into her crotch, meanwhile inhaling her pussy scents as long and as much as you can to detect any dead fish. I have seen a guy biting the $ in his teeth and laid his head down, face up on the bar. The chica on the pole lowered her ass on his face and grabbed the $ out of his mouth with her crotch. Hehe.

Some of these old perverts can think of the kinkiest sex acts.


Solo, I think I recognize her. Real thin girl. Flawless complexion and often in a 2 piece string bikini right? Actually she is extremely skinny I believe.

Exoticspirit
06-27-15, 04:02
I'm sure the Asians people seen throwing money around are viets, we like to party hard, spend like there's no tomorrow on our friends and expect the same of them. In the Philippines, it's the Koreans who throw money around and in Thailand it's the Japanese. These groups have moved in such a way that certain bars are now owned and catered to mostly Koreans and Japanese respectively.

Hey, I get the GFE thing of wining and dining a puta. I was guilty of the same thing when I went to Angeles City in Philippines as I wifed up a bar girl too for a few nights. But as soon as I got back on the plane, I think I had the senses to turn the switch back to reality. Those couple of days were like a pretend thing. Like a fantasy. But as rough as this sounds, a puta is a puta in any culture or country.

What's that saying? We pay for the girls to leave.

HorseTrader
06-27-15, 12:55
.... I spend freely When with friends, because I don't do dutch and split bills, that's the Vietnamese side. I'm sure the Asians people seen throwing money around are viets, we like to party hard, spend like there's no tomorrow on our friends and expect the same of them. I have many Asian friends in my non-monger life. The "no Dutch rule" is standard with not just Viets, but also with Koreans, Thai, and Filipino. Though you may be different, I also see it with my Chinese friends.

IMHO, this is rooted in an Asian attitude that has Asians try to show the world that they are financially successful. Asian women are more financially driven than American women and the Asian men understand that (my Korean women friends say this openly).

Now for how this relates to Hong Kong. I suspect this is why many Asians overpay for puta...they are just showing off their wealth. Even the ones who are living in a dump at home and sweating out the overdue monthly bills.

I'm sure this post will ruffle a few feathers, but that is what I see with my many Asian friends.

Captain Solo
06-27-15, 15:37
What Horse said had some truth in it, but not the whole truth, not in the 21st century anyway. Attitudes have changed among younger Asians, at least in America.

Traditionally if you go to restaurants where Asians eat and party, you will find a few people, usually older guys, fight loudly that they will pay the bills for everyone. These people want to impress everyone in the restaurant that they are well-off and generous, even though they may be stealing, cheating, living in a dump and hiding from creditors. I am not sure of the origin of the term and how it evolved, but Asians label these phony braggards "Chinese gentlemen. "I did not invent it. Don't blame me for the term. I am just a social observer and a messenger.

Then there are older Asian guys in Hong Kong, looking like more like Chinese, who would buy fichas and sit with their trophy putas all night without talking or interacting. What are their aims besides showing off that they can throw money around? But I know a few older Philippinos in Tijuana who are frugal, trying to hook me up with bar girls all night for $40 or $50.

But attitudes have changed among younger people. I think the Dutch or American attitudes, that it's cool to fairly distribute wealth and equally share responsibilities, have won out in most parts of the world. Younger Asians would instead labor over how much would each one fairly pay, not fighting phonily that they could afford to treat everyone.

I have many friends from various countries in Asia and Europe who visit me. Of course they want to party in La Zona and have their personal tastes of the fine Mexican chicas. When it's time to pay, I usually do the math and insist everyone pays his fair share, down to the small bills of Kim Mon's party dinners. Occasionally for guys who I know have financial problems, I would discreetly front them the money for putas and hotels out of compassion, not pride.

I agreed with Jackie888 and Anonx, that a few old Asian guys may throw money around in Tijuana bars, but most younger Asian guys don't act in such phony manners. I think Mexican putas are not stupid. They can quickly see through phony attitudes and stupid games and lose respect for those guys.


I have many Asian friends in my non-monger life. The "no Dutch rule" is standard with not just Viets, but also with Koreans, Thai, and Filipino. Though you may be different, I also see it with my Chinese friends.

IMHO, this is rooted in an Asian attitude that has Asians try to show the world that they are financially successful. Asian women are more financially driven than American women and the Asian men understand that (my Korean women friends say this openly).

Now for how this relates to Hong Kong. I suspect this is why many Asians overpay for puta...they are just showing off their wealth. Even the ones who are living in a dump at home and sweating out the overdue monthly bills.

I'm sure this post will ruffle a few feathers, but that is what I see with my many Asian friends.

Captain Solo
06-27-15, 16:50
Beef steaks in Tijuana are more expensive but way below average in quality compared to US steak houses. I suspect they may have come off the donkeys who used to work the donkey shows on Revo. Hehe.


So I decided to get some dinner at Sonora grill and order a med rare rib eye. It was the worst steak I ever had, the rib eye, if it was rib eye was about a 1\4/ inch think and was so damn early. It tasted like corn beef and tough as leather. After killing the baked potato and the veggies, I headed back to HK to look for her again and failed again. Man can this night get any worst.HK strippers used to make good money and get to keep all their propinas. But on Dec 9, 2011, there was a big raid by Mexican Policias Federales of all La Zona's bars, ostensibly for [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) sex workers and [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) victims. Policias booked over 100 chicas for various violations. Some policias were recorded on video in HK's foyer squeezing boobs and grabbing crotches. Bars were closed, smoking was banned for a while. After that every stripper in HK religiously fork over about 40% of their propina takes for their shows, no exception. It's sad to see chicas most time counting only less than $10 propinas for their strip routine, and have to hand over $4 to the fat stage butch. I get pissed off at this exploitation of the poor chicas and usually give them propinas after the fat stage butch already fucked off, so they can't get their dykes' fingers it.

It appears to me that after the big raid, some high authority in Mexico's policias or government decided that HK was a good cash cow and dictated this collection of cash propinas from HK's strippers. I don't see this skimming happen in other bars. HK's owners probably have to pay off a whole bunch of people in local government, policias, cartels etc. To stay in business without shoot outs, raids and harassment. Mexico is corrupt everywhere and in every way.

Most HK chicas are already poor and hungry single moms. I get pissed off when they are squeezed and exploited by all kinds of stupid, greedy, abusive assholes. Someone with good Spanish should ask HK chicas and managers, why and who dictated that 40% excise on strippers' propinas and where and how it's divided to whom!


Spent the rest of the night by the stage and noticed something very peculiar. After the dancers get off the stage, a guy gets up to collect her tips from the floor and set it aside for her. She then counts her money and leave $5 for him. One girl only made like 7 dollars but left 5 for the stage guy. What's up with that.

AnonX69
06-27-15, 19:37
She's 5 feet, may be 80-90 lbs, average figure, not bone thin, long dark straight hair to her shoulder.

Light skin, no tattoos, pretty face but with bags under her eyes like she's been up all night for the whole month, passionately screwing Asians bareback in all kinky positions. Hehe

I suggest the bros to do the dead fish test in the bar. Just give the girls propinas into their panties, but make sure to stick at least half a finger into their pussies. Sniff your finger for any trace of dead, rotten fish before buying fichas or taking the chicas upstairs.Ahhh. I think I may have spotted her then, sitting by the hot tub with a blonde chica on Wed night. I'll make sure next wed when I'm there. If it is her, I'll take a pass on Winona, I'm not into that kinda body type. As to dead fish test, if I ever see a guy sniffing his fingers, I'll know it you and say Hi. LOL.

AnonX69
06-28-15, 18:23
Most HK chicas are already poor and hungry single moms. I get pissed off when they are squeezed and exploited by all kinds of stupid, greedy, abusive assholes. Someone with good Spanish should ask HK chicas and managers, why and who dictated that 40% excise on strippers' propinas and where and how it's divided to whom!I'll be more generous from now on when they step off the stage and after they pay off the stage guys. The girls who dance on HK bars don't seem to have to do this though or maybe I wasn't as observant. This is prob why they usually walk around asking for a tip after their shows, in order to make up for the pay off. I think I've gain a rep as el cheapo in HK because I usually wave these girls away, I've noticed that when I do this, the girls who are watching usually open theirs mouth, aghasted that I just waved them off. With the info you provided and from my observations, I'll treat these dancers a bit better. Of all the workers in HK, they are the most deserving of my dollars.

Captain Solo
06-28-15, 19:41
There may be a dozen guys sniffing and licking their fingers in HK. They go by different call signs in ISG.

Do say Hi to all of them.


As to dead fish test, if I ever see a guy sniffing his fingers, I'll know it you and say Hi. LOL.

ClamSlammer
06-28-15, 20:09
I'll be more generous from now on when they step off the stage and after they pay off the stage guys. The girls who dance on HK bars don't seem to have to do this though or maybe I wasn't as observant. This is prob why they usually walk around asking for a tip after their shows, in order to make up for the pay off. I think I've gain a rep as el cheapo in HK because I usually wave these girls away, I've noticed that when I do this, the girls who are watching usually open theirs mouth, aghasted that I just waved them off. With the info you provided and from my observations, I'll treat these dancers a bit better. Of all the workers in HK, they are the most deserving of my dollars.I been going to HK for a long time and am not aware of any mandatory tip-out. I may be wrong though because I've never inquired. But after the stage routine the chica doesn't even take the tip money with her. She leaves it all on the stage and then Ellie or Ellie jr or some dude will come collect all the tips off the stage and then give it to the chica. I've never noticed the handlers keeping any bills.

AnonX69
06-28-15, 20:33
I been going to HK for a long time and am not aware of any mandatory tip-out. I may be wrong though because I've never inquired. But after the stage routine the chica doesn't even take the tip money with her. She leaves it all on the stage and then Ellie or Ellie jr or some dude will come collect all the tips off the stage and then give it to the chica. I've never noticed the handlers keeping any bills.After he collects it. He puts on the clipboard. Then then girls counts it and count on like $5 and put it back on the clipboard, then it appears he logs next to her nam and pockets the money. I've noticed it about half a dozen times but only at the stage not the bars or platforms. I had thought it was his tip or had to pay a fee to dance on the stage. And like solo said, I've only seen it done at HK.

TomJackin
06-28-15, 21:15
I been going to HK for a long time and am not aware of any mandatory tip-out. I may be wrong though because I've never inquired. But after the stage routine the chica doesn't even take the tip money with her. She leaves it all on the stage and then Ellie or Ellie jr or some dude will come collect all the tips off the stage and then give it to the chica. I've never noticed the handlers keeping any bills.There is no mandatory tip-out, more bad information from a stupid source.

The girls tip when they want to tip. Some girls only get a few dollars when they dance, especially during the afternoons, others don't get a single dollar. What is the mandatory tip-out for them?

Funny, some start going to HK for the first time in June, now they are an expert!

Jackie888
06-28-15, 21:25
I'll be more generous from now on when they step off the stage and after they pay off the stage guys. The girls who dance on HK bars don't seem to have to do this though or maybe I wasn't as observant. This is prob why they usually walk around asking for a tip after their shows, in order to make up for the pay off. I think I've gain a rep as el cheapo in HK because I usually wave these girls away, I've noticed that when I do this, the girls who are watching usually open theirs mouth, aghasted that I just waved them off. With the info you provided and from my observations, I'll treat these dancers a bit better. Of all the workers in HK, they are the most deserving of my dollars.There are girls in HK that do nothing other than walk around and ask for $1 tips. They don't even dance on the bars. I got curious and followed one around for 15 minutes where she got about $5 from guys too embarrassed to say no. That's $20 an hour. I don't tip these girls because I'm not a human ATM machine. In fact when they ask why I refuse to tip, I tell them "porque no soy una Banco ATM. " They get it.

On the other hand, like you I am fair to the dancers especially the good dancer who obviously spent time to develop their craft. They work hard and deserve compensation. Don't worry about the cheap thing. It's all a game they play to pressure suckers into tipping for nothing. Compensate those who work hard (dancers) and the best looking ones will continue to flock to you. Tip the girls who do nothing and you lose their respect. Worst, the waiters will start parading girls to you for more tips.

Exoticspirit
06-28-15, 21:40
I'll be more generous from now on when they step off the stage and after they pay off the stage guys. The girls who dance on HK bars don't seem to have to do this though or maybe I wasn't as observant. This is prob why they usually walk around asking for a tip after their shows, in order to make up for the pay off.I will not tip since I did not request the service. The only other place I heard that dancers do this type of thing is down in Medellin where they go around to all the patrons asking for tips after being on stage. This is unethical business, even in the monger world in my humble opinion. I don't care if other girls react if they see I don't tip. I'm sure the one (s) I'll be giving the arriba business to will not mind if I do not tip the other dancers.

AnonX69
06-28-15, 23:23
There is no mandatory tip-out, more bad information from a stupid source.

The girls tip when they want to tip. Some girls only get a few dollars when they dance, especially during the afternoons, others don't get a single dollar. What is the mandatory tip-out for them?

Funny, some start going to HK for the first time in June, now they are an expert!Yes I've only been going since June, 2-3 times a week. I never claimed to be an expert. I observed something and asked, "what's up with that?" In my trip report. I'm very detail oriented so I notice little nuisances. I've also noticed, that you sir usually get all bent when someone provides info that is contradictory to what you believe as if you were the EXPERT.

I will no longer do a trip report, experts such as yourself have already been there and done that so it will only bore you.

Captain Solo
06-28-15, 23:27
Unlike other bars in Mexico, the thing I enjoy the best about Hong Kong is that its chicas are fun, smiling, talking, laughing, kidding etc. And are free to roam around the club, flirting with guys, hitting them up for fichas, arribas, propinas.

The pretty young girls would come around where I sit, smiling, pecking me on my cheek, flirting, talking, selling their companies, sometimes grabbing my crotch, rubbing their crotches on me. I would give them $ or 2 into the boobs to check out the goods. Some of those chicas are really pretty and charming, who would deserve a ficha and interview for a potential roll in the bed. I would never want to discourage them from approaching me. I really enjoy seeing their faces lit up, their eyes sparkle with their sweet, happy smiles, their kisses on the lips, their sexy squeeze of my crotch, when I give them the propinas and whisper in their ears that they are so pretty, beautiful, sweet ". Es muy hermosa. Muy linda. Muy dulce. " I've known guys who married and provided some ugly stupid bitches for decades and all they get are bitching, insulting and fighting from their wives, so the chicas' sweetness is really cheap and good values. So do spread your propinas around to keep the poor chicas happy.

However, there are quite a few other overweight and older chicas, not my type of interest, who cruise the club hitting me up for propinas, to whom I would politely decline their companies ". No mas dinero. Lo siento " or " . No mas leche. " They would take the hint and remember not to bother me again.

HK chicas are pretty, nice, fun, friendly. You can have a lot of fun with them in the bar for small amounts of money. Perhaps if you tip and have fun with them in the bar, they may even give you the GFE or PSE in the hotel. Who knows?

Captain Solo
06-28-15, 23:36
I suggest you continue to post your fine trip reports from the fresh perspectives of a new comer. Sometimes the newbies point out significant things that old timers miss out altogether.

I would suggest you and other posters just ignore the stupid assholes, with their obvious lack of education, understanding and respect for themselves and others, who would harass, put down and attack other posters.

Report offensive posters to the moderators and put them on your ignore list.


Yes I've only been going since June, 2-3 times a week. I never claimed to be an expert. I observed something and asked, "what's up with that?" In my trip report. I'm very detail oriented so I notice little nuisances. I've also noticed, that you sir usually get all bent when someone provides info that is contradictory to what you believe as if you were the EXPERT.

I will no longer do a trip report, experts such as yourself have already been there and done that so it will only bore you.

TomJackin
06-29-15, 01:05
I will no longer do a trip report, experts such as yourself have already been there and done that so it will only bore you.Once you have been going to HK for a while, you will understand, no one could be an expert on the club. This is because HK changes policies faster than you can change your underwear. If I'm not traveling to other countries, I'm in HK at least once a week, for the last 5-6 years. And I still don't know what the, "Policy of the Day" will be when I walk in the place. Some examples:

You can take pictures, now you can't.

The meseros had cameras, now they don't.

The meseros had potato chips, now they don't.

The meseros had cheese plates, now they don't.

The VIP card was good for 6 months, now only good for 4 months.

Smoking was allowed, not allowed, and now allowed again.

The short time room was $14, now $16.

The girls danced without panties, now they have to keep their panties on.

The girls could use their cell phones, now that can't; but some still do.

Thus, it is impossible for anyone to be an expert in HK!

Try not to get your panties bunch and take things personal on a puta board.

Write your Trip Report and share your thoughts with me and others. I enjoy reading what others have to say, especially the new guys that experienced HK and hopefully other clubs for the first time. And if we ever meet, the drinks are on me; I'm a lot nicer than you think!:)

Jackie888
06-29-15, 01:10
Yes I've only been going since June, 2-3 times a week. I never claimed to be an expert. I observed something and asked, "what's up with that?" In my trip report. I'm very detail oriented so I notice little nuisances. I've also noticed, that you sir usually get all bent when someone provides info that is contradictory to what you believe as if you were the EXPERT.

I will no longer do a trip report, experts such as yourself have already been there and done that so it will only bore you.Dude,

Keep on posting and ignore Tomjack. You've probably contributed more to this forum in the last 4 weeks than his last 4 years. He is rude, dislikes humor and likes to chase off people with different opinions. His contributions are mostly "I went here, I went there, and I went here" then pats himself on the back for contributing a repetitive post.

Phordphan
06-29-15, 08:11
I will not tip since I did not request the service. The only other place I heard that dancers do this type of thing is down in Medellin where they go around to all the patrons asking for tips after being on stage. This is unethical business, even in the monger world in my humble opinion. I don't care if other girls react if they see I don't tip. I'm sure the one (s) I'll be giving the arriba business to will not mind if I do not tip the other dancers.It's hardly unethical. Let's be realistic here. As an example, I was in Golden Palace last night. They had their shaving cream lesbian show, they pulled some guy out of the audience and made mess of him, and all the usual nonsense. At the end, a mesero took the girls, both stark nekkid and covered in Barbasol, on a lap of the club, soliciting tips with a tip can. Now almost everybody in the club watched the show, why not ask for a tip? It was certainly optional to contribute, but it was hardly unethical to ask.

Exoticspirit
06-29-15, 13:21
It's hardly unethical. Let's be realistic here. As an example, I was in Golden Palace last night. They had their shaving cream lesbian show, they pulled some guy out of the audience and made mess of him, and all the usual nonsense. At the end, a mesero took the girls, both stark nekkid and covered in Barbasol, on a lap of the club, soliciting tips with a tip can. Now almost everybody in the club watched the show, why not ask for a tip? It was certainly optional to contribute, but it was hardly unethical to ask.The Thai girls put on shows all the time with ping pong balls, etc. , and they don't go around asking for tips. Neither do the feature girls in usual strip clubs. Now maybe they get paid for doing their acts so when girls do special shows like a shaving cream show, it can be debatable for sure about tips. But for the run of the mill usual stage time, I'm certainly not going to tip. Heck, if I'm chatting with somebody, I might not even be watching the stage anyway.

Phordphan
06-29-15, 19:00
The Thai girls put on shows all the time with ping pong balls, etc. , and they don't go around asking for tips. Neither do the feature girls in usual strip clubs. Now maybe they get paid for doing their acts so when girls do special shows like a shaving cream show, it can be debatable for sure about tips. But for the run of the mill usual stage time, I'm certainly not going to tip. Heck, if I'm chatting with somebody, I might not even be watching the stage anyway.Your statement was that soliciting tips after a show was unethical. Unethical is things like bill padding, bait and switch, etc. Soliciting a tip may or may not be annoying, but is certainly within the realm of proper business ethics, at least as it pertains to a strip club.

Now, to go off on a tangent for a moment. Men have been tipping women to dance for them since time immemorial. It's hardly a new concept. But it does vary by venue. Comparing a Mexican strip club to a Thai go-go bar is apples and oranges. A Thai go-go is a 1960's anachronism, left over from the Vietnam war. The girls were supposed to dance and create a lively atmosphere. Tipping was never a part because it wasn't really a strip club in the classic sense. Now other places, like the Myanmar "Fashion Shows," tipping is certainly done (albeit indirectly). So, again, it's hardly unethical, it just doesn't apply to every venue and every instance. On the other hand, tipping in Mexican strip clubs, whether it's while the lady is dancing, or afterwards while doing a lap around the club, is absolutely normal.

Let's now take a highly local venue, La Cueva, as another example. Locals like to tip the girls when they dance or do a routine. So, at LCdP, when the girl starts to dance everybody starts waving around their dollar bills. What happens? The mama-san takes the girl, in the middle of her set, and leads her by the hand all over the club picking up tips. The girl's set finishes, she leaves, and maybe she's been on stage 2 minutes. Very annoying, IMHO. I would much rather they wait until the set is finished, then take her around the club.

Now back to the original topic; as I pointed out, taking the girl around after a show and collecting tips is certainly not out of the ordinary (I've had the girls themselves do it in CA clubs). The tipping is always optional, they don't shake the can in front of your face to intimidate you, nor does anybody hold a gun to your head. It's not unethical, nor is it particularly uncommon in Mexico. And we're in Mexico, not Thailand or Colombia.

If you want to have a separate discussion of unethical practices in HK, we could discuss that topic for days. There are plenty, believe me. But soliciting tips isn't one of them.

Phordphan
06-29-15, 19:23
Dude,

Keep on posting and ignore Tomjack. You've probably contributed more to this forum in the last 4 weeks than his last 4 years. He is rude, dislikes humor and likes to chase off people with different opinions. His contributions are mostly "I went here, I went there, and I went here" then pats himself on the back for contributing a repetitive post.Tom hardly dislikes humor. He respects others' OPINIONS, when stated as such. But many of us, Tom included, have a very sensitive BS meter. And opinions masquerading as facts set the bells ringing.

Mr. J. was also being critical of another loony tune, your friend with the Star Wars fetish, who loves to come up with nonsense recommendations for others to follow, but he, himself, is too chicken to try. The latest statement being that the girls are required to pay a percentage of tips to management, and somebody who can speak Spanish needs to tell that management where to get off. Just absolute lunacy, and those of us who don't belong to the mutual admiration society tend to point out such lunacy when it rears its ugly head.

Jackie888
06-29-15, 20:51
Tom hardly dislikes humor. He respects others' OPINIONS, when stated as such. But many of us, Tom included, have a very sensitive BS meter. And opinions masquerading as facts set the bells ringing.

Mr. J. was also being critical of another loony tune, your friend with the Star Wars fetish, who loves to come up with nonsense recommendations for others to follow, but he, himself, is too chicken to try. The latest statement being that the girls are required to pay a percentage of tips to management, and somebody who can speak Spanish needs to tell that management where to get off. Just absolute lunacy, and those of us who don't belong to the mutual admiration society tend to point out such lunacy when it rears its ugly head.Oh I disagree with many of Solo's opinions, but unlike you and a couple of other guys on this board, I don't try and police it nor do I try to police any one else's opinions. Because who the fuck cares whether some collateral issue is right or wrong? Is that why we're here? Compete in some pissing contest? As a member of this forum, I just want read people's bonafide experiences without them having to worry about if they meet the standards you guys unilaterally impose on all of us. And I want to post my own without having to wonder whether the opinion police is on duty. What a bunch of "pompous ass sit my big ass on a big white pillar" you guys are.

TomJackin
06-29-15, 21:52
No, you don't have to tip in la Coahuila, but there are times when you should. When you are sitting at a stage in HK, the girl dancing will not ask you for a tip. But, if you hold up a dollar bill or a twenty peso bill, the dancer will come over to you to collect the money. She is also giving you the "green light" to touch her. I touch them softly, many others do not.

Other girls will get their tips when standing at the ramp between floors or dancing at the big pole of asses, as well as on the bars. Once again, if you touch, you pay. Other girls will walk around, I call them the wanderers, to try to get tips. You have an option at this point, you can say no gracias, or touch the girl and tip her. It is just the HK way.

Other places can be annoying. At my favorite taco stand, which is always busy, it seems like there is always some guy playing a guitar and singing. I did not ask for this entertainment, but somehow this person seems to think I should tip him as he shoves his tip can, attached to the end of his guitar in my face; that's annoying!

Bar Tropical can be annoying as well. Sometimes there will be a guest singer and after a couple of songs, they want a tip as well. Again, I did not ask for that entertainment, thus, I do not tip. On the other hand, on the weekend, BT will have girls stripping on the floor and showing their not very good pole dancing skills. After they dance, she is escorted around and asking for tips. Once again, you have an option at this point, you can say no gracias, or touch the girl and tip her. I always smile, touch, and tip.

At the other end of the spectrum is Chicago Club. It seems like I am the only one in the entire club that tips the dancers. So those girls don't expect a peso for anyone in the first place.

Phordphan
06-30-15, 02:20
Oh I disagree with many of Solo's opinions, but unlike you and a couple of other guys on this board, I don't try and police it nor do I try to police any one else's opinions. Because who the fuck cares whether some collateral issue is right or wrong? Is that why we're here? Compete in some pissing contest? As a member of this forum, I just want read people's bonafide experiences without them having to worry about if they meet the standards you guys unilaterally impose on all of us. And I want to post my own without having to wonder whether the opinion police is on duty. What a bunch of "pompous ass sit my big ass on a big white pillar" you guys are.None of what started this discussion was listed as an opinion. That member of your mutual admiration society posted utter BS as fact. Look up "opinion" in Weber's if you doubt me. Feel free to post your opinions all day long, with the only caveat being that it should be clearly stated as such, or obvious from the context. But if a member posts "facts" about something they know nothing about, that poster should expect some feedback.

Exoticspirit
06-30-15, 03:25
None of what started this discussion was listed as an opinion. That member of your mutual admiration society posted utter BS as fact. Look up "opinion" in Weber's if you doubt me. Feel free to post your opinions all day long, with the only caveat being that it should be clearly stated as such, or obvious from the context. But if a member posts "facts" about something they know nothing about, that poster should expect some feedback.Yup, it's my opinion. And I don't care if going around asking for tips is commonplace or not as it does not change my travel habits one bit. I will not tip for service I did not ask for. And will gladly accept whatever consequences of my actions are. I'm sure I'll be called a cheap Chino for sure but at least one lady will be happy to get my business. Don't really care about the other girls there.

ScatManDoo
06-30-15, 05:00
Oh I disagree with many of Solo's opinions, but unlike you and a couple of other guys on this board, I don't try and police it nor do I try to police any one else's opinions.I agree with you Jackie.

When writings are expresses as opinions.

But many times we get posters here that ask questions.

They deserve good, accurate answers, not BS from someone who feels compelled to answer all questions, even ones he doesn't know the answers to.

RickyVee
06-30-15, 06:53
Come on Gents tip a little most of these girls give a good routine. I usually make it a point to sit on perverts row and trick off at least 10 bucks or so. If you are in the balcony then you are not required to tip. However, HK is a hybrid you. S style club so most tit bars state side the girls will walk round after their set and solicit. We should not judge anybody who does not tip. Most Mexicans do not tip in general, or if they do it is very little. The locals will try to extort foreigners into giving them money out of them any way they can. Next time at the Taco stand look to see if any locals tip you will see it is rare.

TomJackin
06-30-15, 07:04
Yup, it's my opinion. And I don't care if going around asking for tips is commonplace or not as it does not change my travel habits one bit. I will not tip for service I did not ask for. And will gladly accept whatever consequences of my actions are. I'm sure I'll be called a cheap Chino for sure but at least one lady will be happy to get my business. Don't really care about the other girls there.I would not put too much thought into the matter. Some tip, others don't. Everyone seems to roll differently in the clubs.

But keep in mind one important thing: If you touch, you tip.

Over the years I saw many women slapping the fuck out of dudes for trying to cop a free feel, and the management will always take the girls side on this issue.

Believe me, once you see some of those hot bodies in HK, you will want to touch a bit.

Just my 2 lousy pesos.

Exoticspirit
06-30-15, 21:13
I would not put too much thought into the matter. Some tip, others don't. Everyone seems to roll differently in the clubs.

But keep in mind one important thing: If you touch, you tip.This is totally fair.

Captain Solo
06-30-15, 21:32
It should be obvious to everyone that there are a few guys who act like they own this forum, jerking people around, making stupid accusations, nit picking on every petty issues, giving other posters hard times just to make themselves feel important.

Posters should report any harassment by these rude, obnoxious, offensive guys to the moderators, and avoid them like shit.

Some of these guys are so stupid and clueless, they never noticed HK's public skimming of strippers' propinas that has been going on for the last 4 years.

While we have little leverage to change HK's compensation scheme, I would tip strippers directly only after they already donate their propinas to the fat butch, so they can keep more of it. I urge other bros to do the same to send a loud and clear message to HK's filthy rich and horny owners.


Oh I disagree with many of Solo's opinions, but unlike you and a couple of other guys on this board, I don't try and police it nor do I try to police any one else's opinions. Because who the fuck cares whether some collateral issue is right or wrong? Is that why we're here? Compete in some pissing contest? As a member of this forum, I just want read people's bonafide experiences without them having to worry about if they meet the standards you guys unilaterally impose on all of us. And I want to post my own without having to wonder whether the opinion police is on duty. What a bunch of "pompous ass sit my big ass on a big white pillar" you guys are.

The Tall Man
07-01-15, 03:41
What does this Fourth of July weekend hold for Tijuana? Packed with guys? Quality of girls both in bars and SW?

I may sneak down for an overnight-er but not for a double or triple sausage feast.

The Tall Man.

TomJackin
07-01-15, 06:07
What does this Fourth of July weekend hold for Tijuana? Packed with guys? Quality of girls both in bars and SW?

I may sneak down for an overnight-er but not for a double or triple sausage feast.

The Tall Man.I think that many guys in the US will be doing the beach and BBQ thing with their families. The quality of girls should be the same because they don't give a damn about the 4th.

Just my thoughts.

GolfSexRroll
07-01-15, 06:29
I think that many guys in the US will be doing the beach and BBQ thing with their families. The quality of girls should be the same because they don't give a damn about the 4th.

Just my thoughts.July is the month that Mexican kids have off from school. Many of my favorites are heading south to their hometowns (to see their kids / and families).

TomJackin
07-01-15, 07:05
July is the month that Mexican kids have off from school. Many of my favorites are heading south to their hometowns (to see their kids / and families).Good point; I stand corrected!

GolfSexRroll
07-01-15, 15:56
It should be obvious to everyone that there are a few guys who act like they own this forum, jerking people around, making stupid accusations, nit picking on every petty issues, giving other posters hard times just to make themselves feel important.

Posters should report any harassment by these rude, obnoxious, offensive guys to the moderators, and avoid them like shit.

Some of these guys are so stupid and clueless, they never noticed HK's public skimming of strippers' propinas that has been going on for the last 4 years.

While we have little leverage to change HK's compensation scheme, I would tip strippers directly only after they already donate their propinas to the fat butch, so they can keep more of it. I urge other bros to do the same to send a loud and clear message to HK's filthy rich and horny owners.Oh, Come on Captain. Rude / obnoxious / offensive? Me nice guy!

Captain Solo
07-01-15, 17:42
Posters have the rights to freely post anything they want without fear of harassment, intimidation, ridicule, threats by other posters. That's the only way we can have authentic and meaningful info from the individuals.

I urge the bros to freely post all their novel observations and colorful personal opinions without feeling they have to conform to the status quo by a few which may wrong, outdated or obsolete, regardless of the tendency of the stupid few, who keep repeating old info among themselves to feel safe.

The only people who have any authority and responsibility on the suitability these posts are the owner and his moderators / editors. As you know they do check the posts in details, down to correcting spelling, capitalized words etc.

A few posters in this thread have been way out of line, acting like rude, stupid bullies. They do such thing because they are stupid, illiterate , having intelligence of an ox, and senses of humor of pigs.

Bluat
07-03-15, 03:16
Anybody have this happened to them? So I approached some spinner her name is Kimberly, tall brunette and very slim, and as soon as I get done introducing myself there is nothing but waiters hounding me to buy her a drink. One waiter approached me, and after I waved that one off another approached me not 1 minute later. I waived him off as well because I wanted to at least talk to the girl to see if I like her before I buy her a drink. So after that second guy I looked back to her and off she goes without even a goodbye. Damn thing pissed me off, and next thing you know she goes and finds herself another Asian guy to buy her drinks and take to the room.

HorseTrader
07-03-15, 03:42
Anybody have this happened to them?.Nothing surprising there. The waiters and girls are all there to make money and she figured you weren't going to spend any on her. If you want her to stay without buying her a drink, you need to find a different way to attract her. A couple of my regulars will chat for a few minutes without a drink or even send the waiter away, but that never happened until she had gotten to know me.

Captain Solo
07-03-15, 05:55
If it was Kimberly in the red checker board body dress, she's stuck up, cold and rude.

Most chicas should give you at least 1 to 3 minutes flirting before suggesting fichas. Kimberly thinks she's hot so guys have to kiss her big ass.

Even if you buy her a few drinks she would keep her distance and not talk or interact. She's one of the very few cold bitches in HK. Most other chicas are fun, warm, lively, friendly. Find another chica to have fun with.


Anybody have this happened to them? So I approached some spinner her name is Kimberly, tall brunette and very slim, and as soon as I get done introducing myself there is nothing but waiters hounding me to buy her a drink. One waiter approached me, and after I waved that one off another approached me not 1 minute later. I waived him off as well because I wanted to at least talk to the girl to see if I like her before I buy her a drink. So after that second guy I looked back to her and off she goes without even a goodbye. Damn thing pissed me off, and next thing you know she goes and finds herself another Asian guy to buy her drinks and take to the room.

AnonX69
07-03-15, 07:32
Anybody have this happened to them? So I approached some spinner her name is Kimberly, tall brunette and very slim, and as soon as I get done introducing myself there is nothing but waiters hounding me to buy her a drink. One waiter approached me, and after I waved that one off another approached me not 1 minute later. I waived him off as well because I wanted to at least talk to the girl to see if I like her before I buy her a drink. So after that second guy I looked back to her and off she goes without even a goodbye. Damn thing pissed me off, and next thing you know she goes and finds herself another Asian guy to buy her drinks and take to the room.Show some interest in her. Grab their asses. Start grinding into them. At the very least it will cost you a dollar but the chica will know you're interest in them. It's what I do, most will grab you back and you can proceed from there however you please. Take the to a booth and buy a fischa or continue groping them and tippin a couple dollars. Like horse trader said, they are there to make money. From my limited experience, most chicas will take off after you wave off the first masero's. I especially hate the one in green, as soon as you show interest in a dancer on the bars or platforms, they want you to buy a lap dance.

TomJackin
07-03-15, 07:45
Anybody have this happened to them? So I approached some spinner her name is Kimberly, tall brunette and very slim, and as soon as I get done introducing myself there is nothing but waiters hounding me to buy her a drink. One waiter approached me, and after I waved that one off another approached me not 1 minute later. I waived him off as well because I wanted to at least talk to the girl to see if I like her before I buy her a drink. So after that second guy I looked back to her and off she goes without even a goodbye. Damn thing pissed me off, and next thing you know she goes and finds herself another Asian guy to buy her drinks and take to the room.As already said, the girls and meseros are there to make money. Useless chit-chat is wasted time. If you want to chat for a short time, and I do mean a short time, pull out a couple of dollars and tip while you are chatting. If you do decide to buy her a drink, and she she drinks it before your change arrives, cut your losses and move on.

Bluat
07-03-15, 15:34
I don't remember seeing any girl dressed like that yesterday. She wore a black two piece bikini and spoke good English. What little few we said I could tell she wasn't all that warm and friendly. I was worried about her, but was willing to give her a few minutes to warm up and let her true personality shine. I guess her true personality did shine through and saved me a fincha and cien.


If it was Kimberly in the red checker board body dress, she's stuck up, cold and rude.

Most chicas should give you at least 1 to 3 minutes flirting before suggesting fichas. Kimberly thinks she's hot so guys have to kiss her big ass.

Even if you buy her a few drinks she would keep her distance and not talk or interact. She's one of the very few cold bitches in HK. Most other chicas are fun, warm, lively, friendly. Find another chica to have fun with.

Captain Solo
07-03-15, 17:02
There are not too many Kimberlies in HK.

She usually wears that red checker board body suit that was Telcel's edecanes. But she could be wearing black bikinis too. She's cold and rude.

For fichas I prefer to sit down in a couch and have the chica straddle me on my lap. That way while she grinds her butt on my crotch, her boobs and nipples will be bouncing at my face, which I can bury my face in and suck on them like a hungry baby. Hehe.


I don't remember seeing any girl dressed like that yesterday. She wore a black two piece bikini and spoke good English. What little few we said I could tell she wasn't all that warm and friendly. I was worried about her, but was willing to give her a few minutes to warm up and let her true personality shine. I guess her true personality did shine through and saved me a fincha and cien.

SBeach25
07-03-15, 19:06
I don't remember seeing any girl dressed like that yesterday. She wore a black two piece bikini and spoke good English. What little few we said I could tell she wasn't all that warm and friendly. I was worried about her, but was willing to give her a few minutes to warm up and let her true personality shine. I guess her true personality did shine through and saved me a fincha and cien.Maria, she was much of the same. Super hot and she knew it. I'm sitting on one side of her and a buddy on the other. He was interested in her and bought a drink. She drank it in less than 2 minutes, tells my friend she doesn't make much on the drinks and says if he wanted to have sex or don't waste her time. We were both in shock so he dismisses her. What a complete see*! She looked like the mexican version of Kate Upton. She was super popular because she was like a rotating door. I guess its a dream to some guys to bang something that hot and don't care about the connection. Well, its been a couple of years now and I have not seen her since. Maybe someone wifed that up.

Bluat
07-03-15, 19:54
Now that I think about it you are right, I remember that I have seen her here before and she did wear a one piece bikini that was red and checkered. Well I'm glad I didn't waste a drink on her. In fact the two girls I've been with I didn't even waste one drink and both were hot and gave me great service, except for the CBJ.


There are not too many Kimberlies in HK.

She usually wears that red checker board body suit that was Telcel's edecanes. But she could be wearing black bikinis too. She's cold and rude.

For fichas I prefer to sit down in a couch and have the chica straddle me on my lap. That way while she grinds her butt on my crotch, her boobs and nipples will be bouncing at my face, which I can bury my face in and suck on them like a hungry baby. Hehe.

Captain Solo
07-04-15, 17:06
Maria de Sinaloa is a tiny girl with an innocent, pretty face, about 4'10 90 Lbs. But she had huge boobs and butt jobs, making her boobs and her ass look ridiculously big. She was having problem walking up straight, but was going upstairs with guys after guys all night about 2 years ago.

Have not seen her in HK since then but she was back 2 weeks ago. She was dancing on the bar and hang out all night, but no one was buying her fichas or taking her upstairs. All her assets were still in good shape so it must be the Mexico's recession that caused the decline of her business.

She has a boy friend at home with all the hot sex she wants. She's only in Tijuana to make some quick money. Can't expect her to be nice, sweet, fall in love and get passionate in bed with just any guy with dick. Hehe.


Maria, she was much of the same. Super hot and she knew it. I'm sitting on one side of her and a buddy on the other. He was interested in her and bought a drink. She drank it in less than 2 minutes, tells my friend she doesn't make much on the drinks and says if he wanted to have sex or don't waste her time. We were both in shock so he dismisses her. What a complete see*! She looked like the mexican version of Kate Upton. She was super popular because she was like a rotating door. I guess its a dream to some guys to bang something that hot and don't care about the connection. Well, its been a couple of years now and I have not seen her since. Maybe someone wifed that up.

Tratnguyen1
07-05-15, 19:57
Hi,

I just made a visit T. J. In a long weekend July 4th,2015. The H. K. July 4th show was awesome with many beautiful chicas including lesbian shows. One of lesbian chica was Xeian from Puebla. I went to upstair at $60 USD and $17 room cost which is very high. However, this chica was great and very GFE type that I was pleasantly surprised. She told me she just came to HK a month ago.

Watnow78
07-06-15, 03:53
Damn I love the new layout of this club. More square footage and wide walking space between the bar and the stage. I spent most of my time here at night. ID go to the top level right above the girls during the shaving cream show and just watch all the action go on. I got a few dances in the booths for $21 and just tipped the girls I buried my face into their boobies. Friday and Saturday night were super busy. Here are a few pictures!!

Captain Solo
07-07-15, 22:26
Those are some nice pics inside HK. Must be a pretty good camera to image that well in the dark club. I was trying to video tape with a spy cam, but the sensor was not sensitive enough, everything was blurry.

HK is a very nice, entertaining, relaxing place to sit around, sipping a drink, flirting with an endless parade of pretty, smiling, sexy, good-looking girls, with good sound equipment, that does not cost too much money. I no longer spend time and money in other bars in Tijuana.

The new lay out leaves more room for guys to walk around both stages, so it's very nice. My only complain is the new laser lights are way too bright, blinding and annoying when they shine on me. I prefer the soft. Muted lighting scheme before.


Damn I love the new layout of this club. More square footage and wide walking space between the bar and the stage. I spent most of my time here at night. ID go to the top level right above the girls during the shaving cream show and just watch all the action go on. I got a few dances in the booths for $21 and just tipped the girls I buried my face into their boobies. Friday and Saturday night were super busy. Here are a few pictures!!

Locash74
07-07-15, 23:31
I'll be headed down from Oakland on Friday. The 496 mile drive is worth it. I'm hoping to see The Lovely Abigail, The Lovely Salma and the sexy Gina The Latina. If anyone would like to enjoy a beer and shoot the shit, I'll be wearing either an Oakland Raider or New York Met 5950 ball cap.

I'm trying something different this time. Instead of staying at the Motel 6 in San Ysidro I'll be staying at the Hotel Cascadas.

Cheers!

Captain Solo
07-08-15, 04:53
That's a smart choice.

You are far more likely to get robbed and beat up at Motel 6 in San Ysidro than in most hotels in La Zona.

Staying at hotel Cascada, you can hang out and be entertained by pretty girls in HK and the bars all night, lots of good food within 200 yards, lots of good-looking young girls in the bars and the alley. You can take as many girls as you want 24/7 in your room at hotel Cascada, no extra charges.

Life is so good.


I'll be headed down from Oakland on Friday. The 496 mile drive is worth it. I'm hoping to see The Lovely Abigail, The Lovely Salma and the sexy Gina The Latina. If anyone would like to enjoy a beer and shoot the shit, I'll be wearing either an Oakland Raider or New York Met 5950 ball cap.

I'm trying something different this time. Instead of staying at the Motel 6 in San Ysidro I'll be staying at the Hotel Cascadas.

Cheers!

Captain Solo
07-09-15, 07:28
Driving about 1000 miles RT with a 20 MPG car would cost 50 gallons, or about $200 and roughly 9 hours drive each way. That's a lot of driving.

How much is a RT air ticket from Oakland to San Diego if you book 21 days before travel??

I have seen RT ticket for about $350. You can avoid deep fatigue, potential accidents, expensive car breakdowns etc. And save 2 driving.

Days for mongering.

ClamSlammer
07-09-15, 23:25
That's a smart choice.

You are far more likely to get robbed and beat up at Motel 6 in San Ysidro than in most hotels in La Zona.That's completely absurd. You are 1,000,000 more likely to be a victim of violence in La Zona than San Ysidro. How many shootings in SY the past 6 months? Probably about 25+ in La Zona.

Locash74
07-10-15, 07:25
Driving about 1000 miles RT with a 20 MPG car would cost 50 gallons, or about $200 and roughly 9 hours drive each way. That's a lot of driving.

How much is a RT air ticket from Oakland to San Diego if you book 21 days before travel??

I have seen RT ticket for about $350. You can avoid deep fatigue, potential accidents, expensive car breakdowns etc. And save 2 driving.

Days for mongering.I hate flying. It's the most awful experience. It's just easier to drive. Takes less time. From Oakland to San Diego there are no direct flights. They have a layover in Phoenix or LAX usually. There are direct flights from San Francisco but they're more than it would cost in gas.

Han shot first.

Captain Solo
07-11-15, 01:07
South West Air Oakland, CA to San Diego CA.

Fare Depart Arrive Flight # Routing Travel Time.

$118 6:30 AM 7:50 AM 3026 Nonstop 1 h 20 m.

Would this not be better than driving?

ScatManDoo
07-11-15, 03:20
I hate flying. It's the most awful experience. It's just easier to drive. Takes less time.I hear you bro.

Going in and out of airports in the United States is a big pain in the posterior.

They want you to park your car and check into the airlines front desk at least an hour before your scheduled flight.

If your flight takes off late, that's even more dead time.

Unless you take an expensive taxi from San Diego's airport, it also takes a shitload of time taking a shuttle out from the airport, followed by a long trolly ride.

ItsMeBeyatch
07-11-15, 07:38
I fly out of sfo and never pay more than $165 round tip and 75% of the time I pay $99 to $118 round trip. I do look at least once a week for deals. I try to fly southwest most of the time because I can cancel the day of the flight and not get any extra charges. I just use the canceled plane airfare and put it towards another flight. I take the bus then trolley to the border. I live 5 minutes from sfo. Total time from when I leave my house to the time I get to the zona is roughly 3. 5 to 4 hours from SF to Tijuana.


South West Air Oakland, CA to San Diego CA. I

Fare Depart Arrive Flight # Routing Travel Time.

$118 6:30 AM 7:50 AM 3026 Nonstop 1 h 20 m.

Would this not be better than driving?

Captain Solo
07-11-15, 09:40
Those are fantastic fares. Where do you find these cheap fares? Would be very interested.

4 hours total in the air is not too bad. You'd arrive still fresh and energetic, ready to do your job.

Driving 9 to 10 hours to Tijuana would cause so much fatigue that you may lose so much energy and sex drive, thus not be able to get it up, or not as many times as you want, or not being to finish the job and disappoint the chicas. Then there are a lot of risks on that long trip; accidents, car problems, speeding tickets, traffic jams, road closures etc. That could derail your trip.

If you can get 4 guys to share the driving and expenses, then it's not too bad. But driving 10 hours to nail a few pussies is truly heroic. One should get a medal for it. Hehe.


I fly out of sfo and never pay more than $165 round tip and 75% of the time I pay $99 to $118 round trip. I do look at least once a week for deals. I try to fly southwest most of the time because I can cancel the day of the flight and not get any extra charges. I just use the canceled plane airfare and put it towards another flight. I take the bus then trolley to the border. I live 5 minutes from sfo. Total time from when I leave my house to the time I get to the zona is roughly 3. 5 to 4 hours from SF to Tijuana.

AnonX69
07-11-15, 11:58
I finally found some time wed after a busy 4th of July weekend, so I headed down to Tijuana and met up with a new friend I made last week. He is staying at the Machado long term for $150 a month, making me wanting to move down there myself and rent out my house in Hillcrest. First we went to Adelitas and I noticed the regular chicas were absent. The MILF that enjoyed so much is gone, the little spinner I adored is gone. The ones that were there are all on the big heavy La Chevelas format, so we left after a drink and headed to HK.

At HK, I found some of the regular adelitas chicas are now working at HK. Both Chicas from Adelitas that I like are now working at HK. Everything started to feel weird, upside down bizzaro world weird. Maybe the chicas are rotating after the long holiday. Then I noticed 4 big dudes sitting in the corner of the north room, surrounded by all the hotties. Man they were blowing money like mad on the girls, every time a new dancer came onto the stage they made it rain dollar bills. As soon as I focus on a hottie, she was dragged away to their corner for a round of drinks. WTF is going on, these guys werent Asians, only Asians get a rep for spending like this. They must of spent like $100 every 15 minutes. Every time I was engaged with a chica, she was dragged away, I made a sad face and pretended to cry, rubbing my eyes with clinched fists. The chicas sitting at the bar noticing my antics would burst out laughing, but it also garnered me a lot of attention as well, a lot more than usual. Some came up to play with my blue hair, others to examine the baby dragon tatto that's wrapped around my thumb. When the girls that I lost to the would-be asians walked by me to use the water closet, I would pout and rubbing my eyes again like I was crying all over. It got me a few sympathy kisses, at least I played cards dealt to me for what it's worth.

My new buddy abandoned my twice, when some unknown putas would come up, spreading my knees and wedged themselves into me like we are long lost lovers. The whole night was just weird, my ass got sore from being slapped so much I had to looked at my back a couple of times to make sure there wasn't a sign there saying "slap my bootie". The chicas seemed to be more aggressive tonight. Even the dynamic duo, who go around offering private show upstairs, spotted me from the crowd and zoomed in like fly to shit. "Professional show upstairs, CIM, $100". Normally they would just hit me up once a night, but tonight, I just couldn't shake them.

I was never able to find my new wingman the second time, so I decided to head back to San Diego because I was getting bad vibes, too much attention works both ways. Maybe the world will right itself next week.

Jackie888
07-11-15, 17:32
LMAO. From my experience guys who spend like that draw the best attention but rarely go upstairs because they're having so much fun in the clubs being at the center of attention. So just be a little patient and the girls eventually come back. I often kid around with the girls with similar antics and get the similar draw because for a brief moment the girls forget that I'm a walking ATM machine. BTW spotted 2 HK girls moonlighting at Adelitas two weeks ago. Welcome to the midyear shuffle. But I prefer Thursdays the most. It's often the beginning of the work week for most girls so they're fresh and ready!

Captain Solo
07-11-15, 17:35
Went in HK at about 11 PM. The bar was packed. I had to push people out of the way to walk around. And guys were still streaming in through both doors.

The long bar on the North side is now officially named Bar #3 Kowloon, with a sign hanging above it. Hot chicas always hang out in this area. I watched 4 strippers in a row, all were the tattooed, chubby type which did not interest me.

A naked chica was lying on a board at the North entrance, looking out at the door. Her naked body was covered with sushi and rice rolls of all kinds. She looked at me, smiling lightly with a defenseless, vulnerable look in her eyes. Guys were swooping down, gobbling up sushi with their mouths off her naked body. Some were drooling, leaving large puddles of spit on her. The butch was standing guard next to her, cleaning the spit off with a napkin. It looked gross.

HK girls were partying with guys and were getting way more aggressive than before. I was constantly bumped by their booties as I walked around. Gave Sol and her half sister, Hachia, propinas into their hairless crotches. Both are good-looking spinners with silky soft skin, pretty faces and tight pussies.

As I was checking out La Chevelas, the chicas were also getting far more aggressive then any time in the past. A chubby, light-skinned girl grabbed me by my neck and my dick, giving me a long sales pitch, promising me a $40 fuck session in the room and $80 for everything long time including her culo. She was jacking me, trying to get me excited.

Anonx69 is right. I also sensed an obvious change in the chicas' sexy and aggressive attitudes, and also the horny young crowd that packed into the club.

ItsMeBeyatch
07-12-15, 02:23
On virgin America and preferably southwest as of right this minute for fares 6 weeks in advance. Southwest has the best cancelation policy. Leave house and board plane 1 HR. Total airtime 1 HR & 20 min. Bus to trolley to cab and arrive in la zona. 1 HR & 40 min max.


Those are fantastic fares. Where do you find these cheap fares? Would be very interested.

4 hours total in the air is not too bad. You'd arrive still fresh and energetic, ready to do your job.

Driving 9 to 10 hours to Tijuana would cause so much fatigue that you may lose so much energy and sex drive, thus not be able to get it up, or not as many times as you want, or not being to finish the job and disappoint the chicas. Then there are a lot of risks on that long trip; accidents, car problems, speeding tickets, traffic jams, road closures etc. That could derail your trip.

If you can get 4 guys to share the driving and expenses, then it's not too bad. But driving 10 hours to nail a few pussies is truly heroic. One should get a medal for it. Hehe..

ItsMeBeyatch
07-12-15, 02:28
Prices are for southwest.


On virgin America and preferably southwest as of right this minute for fares 6 weeks in advance. Southwest has the best cancelation policy. Leave house and board plane 1 HR. Total airtime 1 HR & 20 min. Bus to trolley to cab and arrive in la zona. 1 HR & 40 min max.

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Captain Solo
07-12-15, 03:22
This is good news. Didn't know you can cancel the same day and reuse Southwest's tickets. Thanks for the tip.

I have to figure out how to use the Global Entry card to bypass the long lines at the TSA security check point at LAX.


once a week for deals. I try to fly southwest most of the time because I can cancel the day of the flight and not get any extra charges. I just use the canceled plane airfare and put it towards another flight.

The Tall Man
07-12-15, 15:23
Went in HK at about 11 PM. The bar was packed. I had to push people out of the way to walk around. And guys were still streaming in through both doors.

The long bar on the North side is now officially named Bar #3 Kowloon, with a sign hanging above it. Hot chicas always hang out in this area. I watched 4 strippers in a row, all were the tattooed, chubby type which did not interest me.

A naked chica was lying on a board at the North entrance, looking out at the door. Her naked body was covered with sushi and rice rolls of all kinds. She looked at me, smiling lightly with a defenseless, vulnerable look in her eyes. Guys were swooping down, gobbling up sushi with their mouths off her naked body. Some were drooling, leaving large puddles of spit on her. The butch was standing guard next to her, cleaning the spit off with a napkin. It looked gross.

HK girls were partying with guys and were getting way more aggressive than before. I was constantly bumped by their booties as I walked around. Gave Sol and her half sister, Hachia, propinas into their hairless crotches. Both are good-looking spinners with silky soft skin, pretty faces and tight pussies.

As I was checking out La Chevelas, the chicas were also getting far more aggressive then any time in the past. A chubby, light-skinned girl grabbed me by my neck and my dick, giving me a long sales pitch, promising me a $40 fuck session in the room and $80 for everything long time including her culo. She was jacking me, trying to get me excited.

Anonx69 is right. I also sensed an obvious change in the chicas' sexy and aggressive attitudes, and also the horny young crowd that packed into the club.Yes the tide shifts all the time in the Zona. Sometimes for no rhythm or reason, just the ebb and flow of the Zona. It's good to hear that the hotties are returning but with it the crowds.

Enjoy it while we can!

The Tall Man.

Captain Solo
07-12-15, 15:58
The young chica in Las Chevelas, who offered me her culo all night for $80, looks somewhat like Salma Hayek, perhaps a little shorter and skinnier, like 10 lbs lighter.

Her name is Catalina. She was sitting by herself at the table right inside the North door. She then sat with 2 other good-looking young chicas in a couch.

She latched on to me, squeezing and jacking my dick while doing her long sales pitch into my ears, and would not let go. Las Chevelas chicas are getting sexy, horny and aggressive.

At this rate I have to move quickly to explore Salma's culo in hotel Cascada before the deal is taken off the market. Hehehe.


As I was checking out La Chevelas, the chicas were also getting far more aggressive then any time in the past. A chubby, light-skinned girl grabbed me by my neck and my dick, giving me a long sales pitch, promising me a $40 fuck session in the room and $80 for everything long time including her culo. She was jacking me, trying to get me excited.

Madcow3
07-16-15, 23:38
Hi guys,

I've read that there are numerous ways to get across the border to HK (rent a car and park in nearby shopping center, trolley from San Diego, etc.).

What is the best way for me? Here are my circumstances:

I am flying into San Diego, heading down to HK immediately and staying at Hotel Cascadas for 3 nights, then leaving early on the morning of the 4th day (8 AM flight on a Tuesday). I'm guessing that renting a car just to get to the border and park for 3 days is a waste of money, and I should take the trolley. However, what about getting back? I heard that the wait to cross the border is very long on weekday mornings, so I should probably just pull an all-night on my last day, then cross the border at like 3 AM to beat the rush.

Then, what about getting to the airport at that hour? Are there taxis on the US side of the border?

Could someone experienced please outline the best way to get into and out of Mexico, and what form of transportation to take to the border on the US side and back to the airport?

AnonX69
07-17-15, 01:27
I've had it with the chicas at HK, was there last night, enjoying the party atmosphere. Ï was watching a very cute young (18) thing dancing at the bar and decided to buy her a drink. Her name is iyonessa (spelling), after buying her a 2nd drink, we were kissing and fondling each other so I offered her $70 for arriba. Picking ***** wanted $130, I countered with $80, she went as low as $100 and wouldn't go any lower so I gave her the boot. My masero's, Mario rolled his eyes when I told her what happened. He said good for you, the hottest chicas at HK would go arriba for $60-80. He was actually surprised that I was sitting with a chica because I rarely do that at HK, because they won't budge below $100 for me so I just enjoy the show.

Couple of hours later while waiting for Porter house steak at azul, she entered and wanted to sit with me. Shoo her away like a stray dog, no way I'm going to waste anymore money on her.

GolfSexRroll
07-17-15, 01:42
I've had it with the chicas at HK, was there last night, enjoying the party atmosphere. was watching a very cute young (18) thing dancing at the bar and decided to buy her a drink. Her name is iyonessa (spelling), after buying her a 2nd drink, we were kissing and fondling each other so I offered her $70 for arriba. Picking ***** wanted $130, I countered with $80, she went as low as $100 and wouldn't go any lower so I gave her the boot. My masero's, Mario rolled his eyes when I told her what happened. He said good for you, the hottest chicas at HK would go arriba for $60-80. He was actually surprised that I was sitting with a chica because I rarely do that at HK, because they won't budge below $100 for me so I just enjoy the show.

Couple of hours later while waiting for Porter house steak at azul, she entered and wanted to sit with me. Shoo her away like a stray dog, no way I'm going to waste anymore money on her.A few years ago a few of us "picky bastards" warned about allowing the chicas to ask (and giving without negotiating) for unreasonable arriba prices! I am sorry to say your chino brethren were the main problem. Fisca fucking them all night, and getting ripped off with "crazy" prices. Just saying! I stay away like the plague now!

AnonX69
07-17-15, 02:01
A few years ago a few of us "picky bastards" warned about allowing the chicas to ask (and giving without negotiating) for unreasonable arriba prices! I am sorry to say your chino brethren were the main problem. Fisca fucking them all night, and getting ripped off with "crazy" prices. Just saying! I stay away like the plague now!I will go just to enjoy the show and get my free drink, until my VIP card expires. Once the dancers get me all horny, I'll find a chica else where to bone.

The Tall Man
07-17-15, 02:03
I've had it with the chicas at HK, was there last night, enjoying the party atmosphere. was watching a very cute young (18) thing dancing at the bar and decided to buy her a drink. Her name is iyonessa (spelling), after buying her a 2nd drink, we were kissing and fondling each other so I offered her $70 for arriba. Picking ***** wanted $130, I countered with $80, she went as low as $100 and wouldn't go any lower so I gave her the boot. My masero's, Mario rolled his eyes when I told her what happened. He said good for you, the hottest chicas at HK would go arriba for $60-80. He was actually surprised that I was sitting with a chica because I rarely do that at HK, because they won't budge below $100 for me so I just enjoy the show.

Couple of hours later while waiting for Porter house steak at azul, she entered and wanted to sit with me. Shoo her away like a stray dog, no way I'm going to waste anymore money on her.I too was there last night, both HK and AB, and could not agree with you more. It use to be, at least when I started my Zona visits in about 1998 that most of the fun was in great parts that the zona was not commercialized "main-stream" rather it was raw. Now its all about the lights, the media, the flash, the glamour, pushing drinks and anything else for tips (I. E. Can I have another tip from the room cum boy cleaner) and too that the girls are all wrapped up in this fashion blitz show.

It could be that she, being a my god 18 yo, only wants her drink pesos and does not plan or want to go arriba? Good thing you blew her off at the restaurant.

The Tall Man.

AnonX69
07-17-15, 02:20
I too was there last night, both HK and AB, and could not agree with you more. It use to be, at least when I started my Zona visits in about 1998 that most of the fun was in great parts that the zona was not commercialized "main-stream" rather it was raw. Now its all about the lights, the media, the flash, the glamour, pushing drinks and anything else for tips (I. E. Can I have another tip from the room cum boy cleaner) and too that the girls are all wrapped up in this fashion blitz show.

It could be that she, being a my god 18 yo, only wants her drink pesos and does not plan or want to go arriba? Good thing you blew her off at the restaurant.

The Tall Man.After my dinner, I went back to HK to get to the north side and saw her leading an old fat Asian guy. I leaned to whispered in her ears that I'm 100 times better looking than that john and to have fun with grandpa. She stuck her tongue out at me and cont on her way upstairs.

Exoticspirit
07-17-15, 03:43
I am flying into San Diego, heading down to HK immediately and staying at Hotel Cascadas for 3 nights, then leaving early on the morning of the 4th day (8 AM flight on a Tuesday). I'm guessing that renting a car just to get to the border and park for 3 days is a waste of money, and I should take the trolley. However, what about getting back? I heard that the wait to cross the border is very long on weekday mornings, so I should probably just pull an all-night on my last day, then cross the border at like 3 AM to beat the rush.If you have an 8 am flight, you definitely want to be on the US side by the middle of the night just to be safe. I think it depends on how much sleep you need. If you don't need sleep, you could probably go hard in Tijuana for much of the last night and then cross the border and get to the airport area by very early morning. You might have to account for rush hour traffic and yes, availability of taxis or whenever the trolley would start up.

If it were me, I would play it safe. Enjoy as much as possible in Tijuana but make it back to the border to still catch the trolley and get to the airport area where I would crash for my final night in a hotel near the airport. Then there are no worries about missing my flight and I still got some sleep. But that's just me as I can't do the all nighters anymore.

Captain Solo
07-17-15, 03:43
Pulling an all nighter the last night is a safe plan for 8 AM flight. You should be able to cross back at 3 AM with no waiting, and just take a nap at the terminal.

After exiting the US CBP building, follow the trolley track to the intersection in front of the jack in the Box (only about 500 feet). You should be able to call a taxi to go back to San Diego international Airport for about $50.

Cheaper ($15-20) if you go on the Mexican mini vans that wait for riders in the parking lot across the street from the J I B. They will drop you off at your departure terminal. You may have to wait half hour for them to fill their vans. A one-arm driver drove me 110 miles in a Toyota Previa van to my house for $40, arrive at 4 AM one morning. The only other passenger in the van was an old farm hand, going back to work in Fresno.

Or you can wait at the JIB parking exit and ask mongers for a ride for some gas money. SAN is not too far off the freeway. After getting ripped off by HK honeys, the bros would be inclined to recover some cash. I've hit rides with mongers before. We all know why we go to Tijuana.


Hi guys,

about getting back? I heard that the wait to cross the border is very long on weekday mornings, so I should probably just pull an all-night on my last day, then cross the border at like 3 AM to beat the rush.

Then, what about getting to the airport at that hour? Are there taxis on the US side of the border?

Could someone experienced please outline the best way to get into and out of Mexico, and what form of transportation to take to the border on the US side and back to the airport?

ItsMeBeyatch
07-17-15, 04:04
Take the bus and the trolley from the airport to Tijuana and do the same on the way back. Get to the border line at 4 am to 4:30 am and you will be good. You will have time to spare. I've done this on a sat, sun, Mon., Tues., wed, & Thur. I've never had a problem except one time when I woke up late and got to the line late. Around 6 am. 1 HR in the line and a $50 taxi ride. ?


Hi guys,

I've read that there are numerous ways to get across the border to HK (rent a car and park in nearby shopping center, trolley from San Diego, etc.).

What is the best way for me? Here are my circumstances:

I am flying into San Diego, heading down to HK immediately and staying at Hotel Cascadas for 3 nights, then leaving early on the morning of the 4th day (8 AM flight on a Tuesday). I'm guessing that renting a car just to get to the border and park for 3 days is a waste of money, and I should take the trolley. However, what about getting back? I heard that the wait to cross the border is very long on weekday mornings, so I should probably just pull an all-night on my last day, then cross the border at like 3 AM to beat the rush.

Then, what about getting to the airport at that hour? Are there taxis on the US side of the border?

Could someone experienced please outline the best way to get into and out of Mexico, and what form of transportation to take to the border on the US side and back to the airport?.

ScatManDoo
07-17-15, 05:12
The last late evening Trolly pulling out of San Ysidro leaves the border area sometime between 12:30 AM and 1:00 AM. Then the trolly stops running for over three hours.

Early morning, before dawn on Tuesday morning, the first scheduled Trolly leaving San Ysidro is scheduled to depart at 4:43 AM. Once it starts morning operation, each new Trolly will leave San Ysidro every seven minutes on Tuesday morning. To play it safe, you will want to board the Trolly during its first hour of morning operation.

ItsMeBeyatch is absolutely correct in warning you to get in line to cross the border before 5 AM, because if you wait until 6 AM your time in crossing the border can greatly increase as that early rush hour begins. You would probably want to avoid the need for an expensive, time saving taxi from San Ysidro to the airport, or even worse, missing your 8 AM flight.

ClamSlammer
07-17-15, 07:53
Couple of hours later while waiting for Porter house steak at azul, she entered and wanted to sit with me. Shoo her away like a stray dog, no way I'm going to waste anymore money on her.Pretty obvious she just wanted to sit with you to get a free meal. I would have let her sit, eat, and then excused myself early after requesting separate checks.

Beevee
07-17-15, 15:47
Does HK have a cover charge to get in? Certain hours / all day? If so, do you have to pay it again if you leave and come back in? Like going out the back to check out the alley action and coming back in when your are done.

ScatManDoo
07-17-15, 17:04
Does HK have a cover charge to get in? Certain hours / all day? Yes, HK charges a $5 entrance fee (that includes a beverage) on Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights.


If so, do you have to pay it again if you leave and come back in?Yes.

Captain Solo
07-17-15, 17:09
Some of these chicas are ridiculous. They think their pussies are pure gold, and they can demand ridiculous prices.

Even the top-tiered chicas would fuck for 1,000 pesos, which is about $65. That is the going rate for the most popular chicas. The less popular ones will go for 500 pesos or $40. I had plenty of good-looking young girls proposing $40 all the time.

Unless you hang around Hong Kong and are familiar with the girls, most HK chicas are academy-award winning actresses with their star-fish performance. My friends from overseas all complain about their cold, aloof manners, lack of interest and engagement in bed. These guys say humping HK chicas is about as sexy as humping an exercise machine.

There are quite a few young, sexy, personable, good-looking chicas in the alley who would give you hot, passionate sessions in bed for 200 to 300 pesos. They are your revenge for the haughty HK chicas.


I've had it with the chicas at HK, was there last night, enjoying the party atmosphere. was watching a very cute young (18) thing dancing at the bar and decided to buy her a drink. Her name is iyonessa (spelling), after buying her a 2nd drink, we were kissing and fondling each other so I offered her $70 for arriba. Picking ***** wanted $130, I countered with $80, she went as low as $100 and wouldn't go any lower so I gave her the boot. My masero's, Mario rolled his eyes when I told her what happened. He said good for you, the hottest chicas at HK would go arriba for $60-80. He was actually surprised that I was sitting with a chica because I rarely do that at HK, because they won't budge below $100 for me so I just enjoy the show.

Couple of hours later while waiting for Porter house steak at azul, she entered and wanted to sit with me. Shoo her away like a stray dog, no way I'm going to waste anymore money on her.

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Madcow3
07-17-15, 17:09
Hey,

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions, I appreciate it.

I'm saddened to hear of the recent price increase. For someone that speaks no Spanish, is there a good alternative to HK? I've read horror stories of people wandering too far away from the tourist areas and getting beaten and robbed.

If I find girls from another club / the street, is it allowed to bring them into Cascadas if I booked a room?

I know my questions seem like they're all over the place, so I thing I'm really looking for is:

If money is mostly not an issue (I'm willing to pay the $100 for arriba if she won't negotiate, but maybe not something like $130 or $150), what is the best place for a guy who speaks no Spanish to find the prettiest women in Tijuana? And, since I speak no Spanish, could I basically hire a waiter to do all the negotiating with girls for me?

SBeach25
07-17-15, 17:36
Does HK have a cover charge to get in? Certain hours / all day? If so, do you have to pay it again if you leave and come back in? Like going out the back to check out the alley action and coming back in when your are done.Beevee, welcome to the board. As you do some research you will get plenty of information to your questions. Only fee is a beer charge on Thurs to Sat's when you first walk in. Otherwise none. Now if you walk in and out, you will get charged a beer again during these days.

Beevee
07-17-15, 18:01
Beevee, welcome to the board. As you do some research you will get plenty of information to your questions. Only fee is a beer charge on Thurs to Sat's when you first walk in. Otherwise none. Now if you walk in and out, you will get charged a beer again during these days.Thank you SBeach. That makes sense. I will be in SD in about a month or so and plan to visit the Zona for a day trip or 2 (scary with all the violence I've been reading about on the other boards). I'd like to go to the great clubs everyone mentions- HK, AB, and TB so I am looking to be prepared for additional costs. I'd really like to test the SG action as well. Tapping in to your experience, would you recommend I just stay put within the confines of these clubs with regard to staying safe?

Captain Solo
07-17-15, 18:12
Usually after buying the first beer in HK, guys are allowed to come back in without having to buy another beer.

When you exit, grab the bouncer who sells beers at the door, point to your face and tel him loudly: "I will come back later. Volveré más adelante. No mas cervezas. OK?

That usually works. If they insist you have to buy, just slip them $1 propina so they can screw their boss.


Does HK have a cover charge to get in? Certain hours / all day? If so, do you have to pay it again if you leave and come back in? Like going out the back to check out the alley action and coming back in when your are done.

TomJackin
07-17-15, 19:30
Beevee, welcome to the board. As you do some research you will get plenty of information to your questions. Only fee is a beer charge on Thurs to Sat's when you first walk in. Otherwise none. Now if you walk in and out, you will get charged a beer again during these days.I just wanted to add from SBeach25. If you do not drink beer, you can take to the bar and exchange it within anything, of reason, of course.

ScatManDoo
07-17-15, 23:17
If I find girls from another club / the street, is it allowed to bring them into Cascadas if I booked a room?Yes, in most cases.

If you have an overnight room in Cascades, you generally can bring in most chicas. Sometimes the office guys will ask to see her ID, and if she does not have an ID, the HK desk clerks sometimes won't let you take the chica to your room.

Additionally, chicas from Adelitas are not allowed by Adelitas' management and Adelitas' doormen to go with mongers to hotels other than Hotel Coahuila (above Adelitas) or the Velario. And some of the smaller bars in the alley will have bar doormen that can insist on variable fees (salidas) to allow their bar girls to go to monger hotel rooms.


Hey,

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions, I appreciate it.

I'm saddened to hear of the recent price increase. For someone that speaks no Spanish, is there a good alternative to HK? I've read horror stories of people wandering too far away from the tourist areas and getting beaten and robbed.:

If money is mostly not an issue (I'm willing to pay the $100 for arriba if she won't negotiate, but maybe not something like $130 or $150), what is the best place for a guy who speaks no Spanish to find the prettiest women in Tijuana? And, since I speak no Spanish, could I basically hire a waiter to do all the negotiating with girls for me?If you are willing to sometimes pay the amounts demanded by HK chicas, it might be the best option for you to find pretty chicas willing to fuck for money.

ItsMeBeyatch
07-18-15, 02:47
Use the front of cascadas to get in. Not the alley side entrance. The guys in the front usually let anything go in. The guys in the back will usually ask questions if they don't recognize the girl. This is atleast my experience


Yes, in most cases.

If you have an overnight room in Cascades, you generally can bring in most chicas. Sometimes the office guys will ask to see her ID, and if she does not have an ID, the HK desk clerks sometimes won't let you take the chica to your room.

Additionally, chicas from Adelitas are not allowed by Adelitas' management and Adelitas' doormen to go with mongers to hotels other than Hotel Coahuila (above Adelitas) or the Velario. And some of the smaller bars in the alley will have bar doormen that can insist on variable fees (salidas) to allow their bar girls to go to monger hotel rooms.

If you are willing to sometimes pay the amounts demanded by HK chicas, it might be the best option for you to find pretty chicas willing to fuck for money..

Phordphan
07-18-15, 06:28
Hey,

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions, I appreciate it.

I'm saddened to hear of the recent price increase. For someone that speaks no Spanish, is there a good alternative to HK? I've read horror stories of people wandering too far away from the tourist areas and getting beaten and robbed.

If I find girls from another club / the street, is it allowed to bring them into Cascadas if I booked a room?

I know my questions seem like they're all over the place, so I thing I'm really looking for is:

If money is mostly not an issue (I'm willing to pay the $100 for arriba if she won't negotiate, but maybe not something like $130 or $150), what is the best place for a guy who speaks no Spanish to find the prettiest women in Tijuana? And, since I speak no Spanish, could I basically hire a waiter to do all the negotiating with girls for me?Adelita is probably a good alternative to HK. On average, I've found more English speakers there than other clubs. YMMV. Generally, the "older" the girl, I. E. With more time in the biz, the more English she'll speak. If you only want the 18 y/o's, then you'll have to settle for a conversation containing lots of sign language.

Don't take this personally, but if you pay $100 for a 30-minutes session at HK you are an idiot, unless you have other issues, like morbid obesity, a third eye in your forehead, or a schlong like Jonny Wadd. If she won't negotiate, kick her to the curb and find one who will. You are the boss. This is Mexico. You're the one with the money. She's not doing you a favor. Think about what you said. "If she won't negotiate I'll pay whatever's asked. " You've surrendered without a shot being fired. With that attitude, you have, in advance, given up control of the situation and that is most definitely NOT the position you want to be in with these girls.

Yes, a friendly mesero can be of great assistance. They are used to guys asking about the girls and they'll help you. Whether or not his tastes match yours, well, you never know.

The prettiest women in Tijuana will not be found in the Zona Norte bars. The girls in the bars are very pretty, in many cases, but hardly qualify as the prettiest in Tijuana. To get them you'll need a lot more money, a lot more time in-country and a lot more Spanish.

AnonX69
07-18-15, 11:06
Hey,

Thanks to everyone who answered my questions, I appreciate it.

If money is mostly not an issue (I'm willing to pay the $100 for arriba if she won't negotiate, but maybe not something like $130 or $150), what is the best place for a guy who speaks no Spanish to find the prettiest women in Tijuana? And, since I speak no Spanish, could I basically hire a waiter to do all the negotiating with girls for me?Download Google translate, then go into settings she download the offline versions for English and Spanish. Sometimes it can be quite fun using it with the girls. Just don't put in such my c0 ck. It will translate into suck my pollo. =:).

Just be aware some maseros will tag team you with the chica to spend, spend. I've noticed this on several occasions, if you see a masero park himself next to your table. The chica will finish her drink really fast and he will be even faster asking you to get her another drink and food and snacks. Get your negotiations done in one or two drinks. I never trust the maseros that bring some random chica to me.

Jackie888
07-18-15, 17:01
Never ever ever ever take a girl that the waiter brings over to you without you asking. How it works is that the girl acts extra slutty, gulps down her drink that's often club soda with one hand and stroking you with the other hand. The next thing you know you just coughed up $100 in drinks for a dry hump that lasted about 15 minutes. And when you finally see the girl of your dreams, you're short of cash. And now you're really pissed! Wow I'm having a serious relapse of my 1st visit to the Zona.

The girls do not necessary have a problem, their analysis can be perfect.

You can get things from fluids of the previous guys which "visited" the same mouth earlier in the day.

After visiting quite a lot of doctors, I started to think that I'm a "happy" case given the fact that I got only 2 bacterial STDs. It can be even worse than some bacteria which (eventually and hopefully) you can kill with antibiotics after few weeks or few months. Don't believe in myths that oral sex is safe and don't take it easily. It can be even life threatening. The risks might be small, but 5% risk of getting HIV is much more than 0. 02%. Or 20% for syphilis (those being approximate prevalence s for the "high risk community" represented by those clubs, according to some doctor I talked with). If the moderator finds the post wrong or what I've been told is "not according to the facts", please do not approve the comment.

Madcow3
07-18-15, 18:25
Adelita is probably a good alternative to HK. On average, I've found more English speakers there than other clubs. YMMV. Generally, the "older" the girl, I. E. With more time in the biz, the more English she'll speak. If you only want the 18 y/o's, then you'll have to settle for a conversation containing lots of sign language.

Don't take this personally, but if you pay $100 for a 30-minutes session at HK you are an idiot, unless you have other issues, like morbid obesity, a third eye in your forehead, or a schlong like Jonny Wadd. If she won't negotiate, kick her to the curb and find one who will. You are the boss. This is Mexico. You're the one with the money. She's not doing you a favor. Think about what you said. "If she won't negotiate I'll pay whatever's asked. " You've surrendered without a shot being fired. With that attitude, you have, in advance, given up control of the situation and that is most definitely NOT the position you want to be in with these girls.

Yes, a friendly mesero can be of great assistance. They are used to guys asking about the girls and they'll help you. Whether or not his tastes match yours, well, you never know.

The prettiest women in Tijuana will not be found in the Zona Norte bars. The girls in the bars are very pretty, in many cases, but hardly qualify as the prettiest in Tijuana. To get them you'll need a lot more money, a lot more time in-country and a lot more Spanish.I never said I wouldn't negotiate, but here's the thing: I'm from Washington DC. I am spending a plane flight across the country, a trolley ride, and cab fare just to get to Tijuana. I'm there for 3 days. I don't want to spend my 3 days there kicking 3 women out of my company for every 1 that I take upstairs. If I find someone I like, her rate is a bit high and she won't come down, I might still bite the bullet and try it out.

I don't live in San Diego, and go down to HK every weekend. This is a special trip for me, and fuck it if I'm going to let a price difference of 20 or 30 dollars deter me from taking someone upstairs. If I wanted to get the best deal I possibly could and get every girl I see to go down to bottom dollar price, I'm going to need a LOT more time in HK getting to know the flow and each girl's true price range, and a lot more Spanish.

That's interesting though, that you say the best girls aren't found in clubs / bars. Again, being from DC, we have some of the richest counties in the United States in the area, but our escorting scene sucks. I was always wondering if I was missing some secret society that catered to the politicians' and lobbyists' sexual needs. Is that what you were referring to when you mentioned the most beautiful girls not being in bars? Some less public organization that links the rich with company for an evening?


Download Google translate, then go into settings she download the offline versions for English and Spanish. Sometimes it can be quite fun using it with the girls. Just don't put in such my c0 ck. It will translate into suck my pollo. =:).

Just be aware some maseros will tag team you with the chica to spend, spend. I've noticed this on several occasions, if you see a masero park himself next to your table. The chica will finish her drink really fast and he will be even faster asking you to get her another drink and food and snacks. Get your negotiations done in one or two drinks. I never trust the maseros that bring some random chica to me.Yes, I don't plan on buying many drinks before going upstairs.

Phordphan
07-19-15, 06:00
I never said I wouldn't negotiate, but here's the thing: I'm from Washington DC. I am spending a plane flight across the country, a trolley ride, and cab fare just to get to Tijuana. I'm there for 3 days. I don't want to spend my 3 days there kicking 3 women out of my company for every 1 that I take upstairs. If I find someone I like, her rate is a bit high and she won't come down, I might still bite the bullet and try it out.

I don't live in San Diego, and go down to HK every weekend. This is a special trip for me, and fuck it if I'm going to let a price difference of 20 or 30 dollars deter me from taking someone upstairs. If I wanted to get the best deal I possibly could and get every girl I see to go down to bottom dollar price, I'm going to need a LOT more time in HK getting to know the flow and each girl's true price range, and a lot more Spanish.

That's interesting though, that you say the best girls aren't found in clubs / bars. Again, being from DC, we have some of the richest counties in the United States in the area, but our escorting scene sucks. I was always wondering if I was missing some secret society that catered to the politicians' and lobbyists' sexual needs. Is that what you were referring to when you mentioned the most beautiful girls not being in bars? Some less public organization that links the rich with company for an evening?

Yes, I don't plan on buying many drinks before going upstairs.Yes, you shouldn't let a few dollars interfere with a special trip. However, girls with the "my shit don't stink" attitude, who demand above market and won't negotiate, are rarely worth the money. YMMV, and there are certainly exceptions, but the odds are not in your favor. Along with her "my way or the highway" attitude often comes other rules like paying up front, don't touch here or there, DFE (Dead Fish Experience), etc. Again, YMMV and you pays your money and you takes your chances. No guarantees either way.

But keep in mind that this is Mexico, not DC. It's legal here, not in DC. It's a buyer's market. There is no need to be an a-hole with the girls, but you need to be the boss. Mexicanas expect the guy to take charge a bit. It's your money, you set the rules, the girl doesn't. You offer what you're willing to pay. You settle on a price. You pay AFTER. When the girl starts setting the rules you are almost always guaranteed a bad time, or at least poor value for money.

There are several escort agencies, some girls are better looking than the club girls, some are not. There are loads of very pretty escorts on Craigslist and several web sites, many better looking (IMHO) than many of the club girls. But the prettiest ones, overall, are found in the clubs and discos on weekend nights. They're mostly civvies. Las Pulgas has tons of drop-dead gorgeous hotties lined up every weekend night. Lots of clubs have Ladies Nights on Wednesdays. In Tijuana, ladies drink free all night on Ladies Night, so lots of hotties come out to play. Rich guys having mistresses is common in Spanish culture, so I doubt there is some secret organization that provides the uber-rich with women. When you're rolling in dough the women seem to come out of the woodwork. My point was that you can find very pretty freelancers, etc. , all over the place but you'll need more time and Spanish that you'll have. But, as far as putas go, Tijuana has some of the best lookers in Mexico because Tijuana is one of the most popular P4 P spots in Mexico.

Exoticspirit
07-19-15, 16:32
I never said I wouldn't negotiate, but here's the thing: I'm from Washington DC. I am spending a plane flight across the country, a trolley ride, and cab fare just to get to Tijuana. Wow, my first reaction upon reading this is if you want to fly somewhere for just 3 days from Washington DC for some mongering fun, there are many better options than Tijuana. The only reason why I am even bothering with Tijuana is that I'm already going to be flying through San Diego on my way back from Hawaii. Otherwise, I certainly would not make that special effort to get down there.

For a quick long weekend or any other 3 day trip that you have to fly to, I would strongly suggest that you consider Montreal, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, St Maarten or Curacao. I've been to the first three of these destinations but read that the last two are great places too even for short fly away trips. All of these places will have much less problems with issues like shootings, corrupt cops, etc.

Captain Solo
07-19-15, 17:09
Montreal used to have some very beautiful girls working the streets of St Catherine and St Denise. There are also lively escort and massage scenes.

The girls who work in DR, CR, St Maarten, Curacao and the Caribbean islands are usually very dark, lumpy, overweight, ugly, not too healthy-looking. A few Dutch girls working in Curacao, Aruba, Bonaire are homely-looking. Unless you really like dark-skinned girls, you should skip the Caribbean.

Tijuana OTOH has many very beautiful girls, mostly light-skinned, a few dark-skinned, available every night, easy to find, nice, sweet, friendly, flirty, can communicate well with foreigners, cost little, and sexual encounters with them are almost always crime and trouble-free. Prices in Tijuana are comparable, if not better than, the major hoe destinations in Asia.

The shootings are primarily among drug-selling gangs.

It's hard to beat Tijuana.

Madcow3
07-19-15, 19:05
Yes, you shouldn't let a few dollars interfere with a special trip. However, girls with the "my shit don't stink" attitude, who demand above market and won't negotiate, are rarely worth the money. YMMV, and there are certainly exceptions, but the odds are not in your favor. Along with her "my way or the highway" attitude often comes other rules like paying up front, don't touch here or there, DFE (Dead Fish Experience), etc. Again, YMMV and you pays your money and you takes your chances. No guarantees either way.

But keep in mind that this is Mexico, not DC. It's legal here, not in DC. It's a buyer's market. There is no need to be an a-hole with the girls, but you need to be the boss. Mexicanas expect the guy to take charge a bit. It's your money, you set the rules, the girl doesn't. You offer what you're willing to pay. You settle on a price. You pay AFTER. When the girl starts setting the rules you are almost always guaranteed a bad time, or at least poor value for money...Thanks for the advice, and I will keep it in mind regarding girls who refuse to negotiate and the potential downfalls.

Hmm, I wonder if it's worth it trying to find a girl outside the club for one of my nights there. Again, if you tip your waiter well, will they be willing to act as a guide for you, or are they forbidden from helping people outside HK / Adelitas / whatever bar?


Wow, my first reaction upon reading this is if you want to fly somewhere for just 3 days from Washington DC for some mongering fun, there are many better options than Tijuana. The only reason why I am even bothering with Tijuana is that I'm already going to be flying through San Diego on my way back from Hawaii. Otherwise, I certainly would not make that special effort to get down there.

For a quick long weekend or any other 3 day trip that you have to fly to, I would strongly suggest that you consider Montreal, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, St Maarten or Curacao. I've been to the first three of these destinations but read that the last two are great places too even for short fly away trips. All of these places will have much less problems with issues like shootings, corrupt cops, etc.I see, thanks for the notice. I'll keep these places in mind.

Besides less corruption, what are the other differences between these places that you mentioned and Tijuana? I assume Montreal has more white French Canadian girls, but what are the other places like?

SBeach25
07-19-15, 20:10
Never ever ever ever take a girl that the waiter brings over to you without you asking. How it works is that the girl acts extra slutty, gulps down her drink that's often club soda with one hand and stroking you with the other hand. The next thing you know you just coughed up $100 in drinks for a dry hump that lasted about 15 minutes. And when you finally see the girl of your dreams, you're short of cash. And now you're really pissed!
As seasoned as I am I sometimes have a moment of relapse. This happened once in a very long time and the only reason was the girl he brought over was a girl on my to do list before I leave. Well, as soon as she sat down and ordered a drink, I noticed that it was a cup of water?! I said why are you getting water and she said, she won't drink beer until it gets close to end of her shift. So the waiter tells me $8, I paid it only so I could feel her out. After talking with her while she finishes her drink, I concluded that this will be a attitude chica with a YMMV session. I told her politely that I was waiting for my amiga and I enjoyed the conversation but I had promised my amiga that I would wait for her in spanish. She smiled and says she understands and kissed me on the cheek and went her way. However, while sitting there with my friends drinking and for another hour, I noticed that she was very picky. The waiter would take her to other tables and she would refuse the guys at the table by letting go of the waiters hand and walk off. I would look a the reaction at the guys table and they were perplexed. So, now I'm really curious. So while she is sitting by herself, I pretend to go to the bathroom and come back and say Hi. I asked her with a smile and asked her what I observed and she smiled and says Your watching me? I said yes, and she told me she is very selective and have seen me the past couple of weeks and do not talk any girls also so she likes what she saw. I laughed and says who is watching who? We laughed and I bought her another drink, this time she ordered a beer. Unfortunately I did have a girl to meet at my hotel so I didn't take her. After about 20 minutes of talking I told her I was telling the truth about waiting for a girl and she said she understands and gave me a nice little teaser kiss on the lips as she got up and left. Damn, to me she was top 5 of the girls there. But back to never take a girl from the waiter. This happens all the time and yes, the girl is drinking it like a fish. If you ask the waiter to hold on a moment when he asks you for another drink for her, she will say I can only stay longer if you buy her drinks, that's when you dismiss them. The other one is when he asks her and not you, that's when you dismiss both of them because he doesn't give a shit what you think.

BarleyBuckshot
07-19-15, 21:38
Saturday, a little bit after 10 pm I was searched by two policias two blocks away from the Zona Norte. They claimed, I have heroin with me. I was then sitting in in my underpants in the street. They said several times that I will have to climb on the pick-up truck because they want to take me somewhere. After about 15 minutes they fortunately drove off and I could continue walk to the border. I don't think they stole any money.

I hope this does not get as bad as it was eight years ago.

Artisttyp
07-19-15, 22:23
They said several times that I will have to climb on the pick-up truck because.

They want to take me somewhere. After about 15 minutes they fortunately drove off.
I don't believe it unless they took money from you or you paid them off. Nobody argues about not wanting to go into the pick up truck and actually gets away with it.

Jackie888
07-20-15, 00:20
I don't believe it unless they took money from you or you paid them off. Nobody argues about not wanting to go into the pick up truck and actually gets away with it.Pretty funny post. Heroine suspect sitting in public in his under pants (underwear?) refusing to comply with Orders from Tijuana cops to be arrested. And these cops simply left after 15 minutes. Either these Tijuana cops are the nicest guys in the world, or the poster needs to check into rehab so that he won't get the shit beat out of him the next time he parties this hard in Tijuana.

SBeach25
07-20-15, 01:13
Pretty funny post. Heroine suspect sitting in public in his under pants (underwear?) refusing to comply with Orders from Tijuana cops to be arrested. And these cops simply left after 15 minutes. Either these Tijuana cops are the nicest guys in the world, or the poster needs to check into rehab so that he won't get the shit beat out of him the next time he parties this hard in Tijuana.Not sure how to read the post from Bucket, seems pretty outlined and vague. Since I see this is his first post, I think he needs to share the details to the outlined like, maybe he was told to strip to his underpants while they search his belongings. Plus the "I don't think they stole any money" statement is too vague. I too was shaken down but they handed me my money clip without taking a pesos was surprising myself. So if he could reply back and add more details it could sound plausible. But then again, his statement to compare now vs 8 years ago is a bit off as this is his first post. Again need details to compare now vs 2006 as I was here in 2006 as well in Tijuana. I'll hold off my BS call as I wait to see what he has to reply from Artistype. Another question is why is he posting here in HK thread and not in the General where this belongs. Oh well, My last week in TJ and I'm gone for a long long time my fellow mongers. Happy hunting! I'll check in an out and see whats been going on while I'm banging chicas hotter than the ones in HK like Cuba, and Colombia and Brazil!!!

Phordphan
07-20-15, 01:30
Hmm, I wonder if it's worth it trying to find a girl outside the club for one of my nights there. Again, if you tip your waiter well, will they be willing to act as a guide for you, or are they forbidden from helping people outside HK / Adelitas / whatever bar?
Don't go there. Don't even think about it. You are not a veteran, you don't know the mesero (many are deported felons), you don't speak the language. Stick to the clubs.

If money's no object, arrange an all-nighter with a girl from an escort agency. You can request an English speaker so you can go to dinner, a club, whatever, and actually have a conversation.

Phordphan
07-20-15, 01:34
Saturday, a little bit after 10 pm I was searched by two policias.

Two blocks away from the Zona Norte. They claimed, I have heroin with me.

I was then sitting in in my underpants in the street.

They said several times that I will have to climb on the pick-up truck because.

They want to take me somewhere. After about 15 minutes they fortunately drove off.

And I could continue walk to the border. I don't think they stole any money.

I hope this does not get as bad as it was eight years ago.You were walking to the border at 10 pm? OK. You must know your way around at least a bit. Where, exactly did this happen. 2 blocks from ZN is far too vague.

You were stripped to your underwear? Seriously? I've never seen that. Or maybe you were walking around in your underwear? That's probably why you were stopped.

For anybody still reading, when things deteriorate to the point where the cops tell you to get into the truck, it's NOT optional. At that point money WILL change hands or you WILL get a free ride in a pickup.

SBeach25
07-20-15, 01:38
Don't go there. Don't even think about it. You are not a veteran, you don't know the mesero (many are deported felons), you don't speak the language. Stick to the clubs.

If money's no object, arrange an all-nighter with a girl from an escort agency. You can request an English speaker so you can go to dinner, a club, whatever, and actually have a conversation.Bro, tipping a waiter well does nothing but make his pockets fatter and he couldn't care less other than thinking of how to separate you money from you in HK. Almost all of these guys are hustlers reading how the cattle reacts in each situation with the chicas. They can tell a noobie right away and will bring you a chica he knows will milk you for fichas and skim you on the change. If you want an all nighter call a service as mentioned. Hell do some research as well like go to theeroticreview to read up on the girls name. This will help you determine which girl is best for you.

Dickhead
07-20-15, 02:56
Mongering destinations that are better and safer than Tijuana and closer to Washington, DC include both Montreal and Toronto, as well as Costa Rica, Panamá, and Curacao. The only thing I can possibly imagine is that Madcow only has a passport card and not a passport. Even Colombia is probably not as dangerous as Tijuana these days. I honestly can't see anyone from outside the SW United States going to Tijuana to monger, without any other reason to be in the area. I haven't been to Tijuana in a long time but there is a reason for that!

Madcow3
07-20-15, 04:50
Don't go there. Don't even think about it. You are not a veteran, you don't know the mesero (many are deported felons), you don't speak the language. Stick to the clubs.

If money's no object, arrange an all-nighter with a girl from an escort agency. You can request an English speaker so you can go to dinner, a club, whatever, and actually have a conversation.Hmm, I see. I thought it might be like clubs in the US, where it's always good to make friends with the bouncers if you can. I guess I was mistaken.


Bro, tipping a waiter well does nothing but make his pockets fatter and he couldn't care less other than thinking of how to separate you money from you in HK. Almost all of these guys are hustlers reading how the cattle reacts in each situation with the chicas. They can tell a noobie right away and will bring you a chica he knows will milk you for fichas and skim you on the change. If you want an all nighter call a service as mentioned. Hell do some research as well like go to theeroticreview to read up on the girls name. This will help you determine which girl is best for you.I do read ***, but I wasn't planning on getting an escort. Heck, I didn't know escorting existed in Mexico, since street prostitution and brothels are legal. I am actually surprised that websites and agencies exist, I thought that was only the case in the US because sex work is illegal.


Mongering destinations that are better and safer than Tijuana and closer to Washington, DC include both Montreal and Toronto, as well as Costa Rica, Panam, and Curacao. The only thing I can possibly imagine is that Madcow only has a passport card and not a passport. Even Colombia is probably not as dangerous as Tijuana these days. I honestly can't see anyone from outside the SW United States going to Tijuana to monger, without any other reason to be in the area. I haven't been to Tijuana in a long time but there is a reason for that!Man, way to put a damper on my trip. I'm beginning to think about cancelling my flight. I had read a few pages back in this thread and nobody mentioned that it was very dangerous visiting there.

Also, what sort of mongering goes on in Montreal and Toronto? From my research on ***, It seemed just like the variety that is available in the US (independent escorts and agencies), with possibly a 20-30% discount on prices compared to escorts in America.

AnonX69
07-20-15, 14:12
It's been a busy weekend with gay pride celebration in Hillcrest so I haven't had time to post this. I made my way down to Tijuana Thurs night at 7 pm, after visiting valentines and playboy, and once again found myself at HK. As I was sitting at the bar watching the staff setting up mystery meat on a stick around the girl laying on the table, someone started to massage me from behind. I turned around and met a cute little thing name Kensey in a pink outfit. I grabbed her a $$, pulled her in front of me and spun her around for a better look. Petite little thing with perky little bobbies, nothing fake just the way I like them. She wasn't the prettiest girl there but her bubbly personality more than made up for it.

While sitting at the bar enjoying of drinks the masero came up, asked if we wanted some food. I looked at her and she shook her head so I waved him away. 1 score for her. She noticed I had numerous bead and charm bracelets on my wrists. I told her I collect them and have 7-8 on each wrists, next thing she ran off and came back with a string bracelet with the charms love, hope, and dream on it that she had just bought in ensanda. I was very moved by her action and gave her a peck on the lipss, she did not turn her head away like most of them. 2 score for her.

As we were finishing off our 2nd drinks, I started chewing on the ice left in my glass. She took my glass, tried to fish out some ice with the straw and failed. She got frustrated and started to pout, I couldn't help but notice her cute personality. I finished my drink engulfing a mouthful of ice and held some out for her on my tongue. She did not hesitate; she grabbed my head, suck the ice off my tongue and started chewing on them with the biggest seductive smile I've ever seen. Score #3 for her. I wanted her so bad, so I pulled down her top, sucked on her titty, twirling the remaining ice around her nipple and she let out a soft moan. I offered her $60 for arriba and she accepted without a fuss.

Sex was great. A lot of GFE. Twice she yelled voy (no idea what it meant) at the cum boy who came knocking, gave me a wicked grin and continued riding me as if her life depended on it. I gave the the chap $3 for over staying and we went back downstairs for a drink. Since her shift was coming to an end, I invited her to come join me at azul for bite to eat. This is where the HK maseros come to get the food listed on the back of their trays without the 50% markup. I lost track of time, but we were there for quite a bit. I tipped her 300 pesos and told her I hope to see her again before catching a cab back to la liena. Perhaps the best experience I've had since coming to Tijuana.

Face: cute 7. 5-8
Body: petite 7. 5
Sex: awesome with lots of GFE.

AnonX69
07-20-15, 14:48
Man, way to put a damper on my trip. I'm beginning to think about cancelling my flight. I had read a few pages back in this thread and nobody mentioned that it was very dangerous visiting there.It's not as dangerous as you may think. I've lived in SD for 7 years and put of going to Tijuana because I thought the same thing until a couple of months ago, even though I got myself a passport card when I renewed my passport 3 years ago. Yes you can get mugged, yes you can get scam by the policias, so play it SAFE. Don't carry a lot of money on you if you must venture out of the one block zona to minimize your loss of it does happen. I'm still relatively new to Tijuana, but find walking around zona centro quite safe during the day time. Even up to 10 pm, I may still be out side the zona. On weekends the streets outside of zona Notre (like Revolution) is even more crowded and livelier as people come down from SD to party.

GolfSexRroll
07-20-15, 15:38
It's not as dangerous as you may think. I've lived in SD for 7 years and put of going to Tijuana because I thought the same thing until a couple of months ago, even though I got myself a passport card when I renewed my passport 3 years ago. Yes you can get mugged, yes you can get scam by the policias, so play it SAFE. Don't carry a lot of money on you if you must venture out of the one block zona to minimize your loss of it does happen. I'm still relatively new to Tijuana, but find walking around zona centro quite safe during the day time. Even up to 10 pm, I may still be out side the zona. On weekends the streets outside of zona Notre (like Revolution) is even more crowded and livelier as people come down from SD to party.I live in San Diego. I would venture to say that 90% of those in San Diego believe that Tijuana is VERY dangerous! Every city has it's danger areas. I party in Tijuana twice a week. I am in fear in parts of San Diego after dark. As in any major city. Keep your wits. Don't get STUPID drunk. Steer clear of the police if possible.

THE WORLD is a dangerous place. Go for the gusto!

Dickhead
07-20-15, 15:53
Twice she yelled voy (no idea what it meant) at the cum boy who came knockingIt means "I am coming" (not "cumming" ja ja) or "I'm on my way. " This was strange to me as I learned the language because "voy" is from the verb "ir" which is to go
. So, I thought it should be "vengo," from the verb "venir," or to come.

If the doorbell rings, an English speaker yells "I'm coming," but to a Spanish speaker, you are the one who came, and I am going towards you. They yell out "Voy" or "Ya voy. " It indicates movement away from the speaker. If you ask me "Vienes a mi casa?" (are you coming to my house?) my response is NOT "Si, vengo" (yes, I am coming) but rather "Si, voy" (yes, I am going).

D Cups
07-20-15, 16:06
Guys how is the action at HK and Adelitas on Sunday? Same? Is TLN possible? I have never been there on a Sunday. Thanks for any replies.

AnonX69
07-20-15, 16:08
It means "I am coming" (not "cumming" ja ja) or "I'm on my way. " This was strange to me as I learned the language because "voy" is from the verb "ir" which is to go
. So, I thought it should be "vengo," from the verb "venir," or to come.

If the doorbell rings, an English speaker yells "I'm coming," but to a Spanish speaker, you are the one who came, and I am going towards you. They yell out "Voy" or "Ya voy. " It indicates movement away from the speaker. If you ask me "Vienes a mi casa?" (are you coming to my house?) my response is NOT "Si, vengo" (yes, I am coming) but rather "Si, voy" (yes, I am going).Japanese is very similar. When someone is about to have an orgasm, they would say I'm cumin. In Japanese, they say iku, iku. Which is the dictionary form of ikimasu, to go.

Exoticspirit
07-20-15, 17:44
Also, what sort of mongering goes on in Montreal and Toronto? From my research on ***, It seemed just like the variety that is available in the US (independent escorts and agencies), with possibly a 20-30% discount on prices compared to escorts in America.Between Toronto and Montreal, I would recommend Montreal. There are four main ways to monger in Montreal. First are the outcall agencies and the reputable ones are great. They have websites and you just call them from your hotel. The girls tend to be awesome and many are GFE.

There are also some incall agencies but I have never tried these Then there are the usual indies from the classifieds much like backpage.

A final way is that there are a few strip clubs outside of Montreal island, ie. , away from the city, and these venues have private booths where for the right price, anything goes. I have never tried this either since I don't think FS in a tight booth is very comfortable.

I would highly recommend the outcalls in Montreal though as the girls are second to none.

Madcow3
07-20-15, 18:00
Between Toronto and Montreal, I would recommend Montreal. There are four main ways to monger in Montreal. First are the outcall agencies and the reputable ones are great. They have websites and you just call them from your hotel. The girls tend to be awesome and many are GFE.

There are also some incall agencies but I have never tried these Then there are the usual indies from the classifieds much like backpage.

A final way is that there are a few strip clubs outside of Montreal island, ie. , away from the city, and these venues have private booths where for the right price, anything goes. I have never tried this either since I don't think FS in a tight booth is very comfortable.

I would highly recommend the outcalls in Montreal though as the girls are second to none.Thanks for the overview. Besides the strip club sex, this sounds like the same as what is offered in the US. Is there an advantage to going to Montreal or Toronto instead of, say, New York? Lower prices?

ElChameleon
07-20-15, 19:03
Hello!

I am a 20 year old male who has recently made a major advance in my career and am now moving to Southern California. To Celebrate, I plan on visiting HK in August during their summer carnival. I plan on staying in one of Cascadas' suite and having the wildest night of my life. I've been reading through the posts in this discussion religiously for the past week to prepare myself for the trip, and everything that had been brought up so far has been incredibly helpful. However, I still have a few questions of my own to ask you all.

1) In order to have an epic experience, what are some things that I absolutely have to try / do at HK and Cascadas and why?

2) Just so I can know what I way be in for and to have some ideas of what to do, what are some of the best, most memorable experiences you've had at HK. I've read a few great ones here, but I want to know more. What are the experiences you've had that makes you want to keep coming back?

3) Has anyone else been at HK during their Summer Carnival? I haven't been able to find much about it. What is it? What makes it different to a regular night at HK? Is it a good time to go?

4) how much $$ do you commonly bring with you for a night? And how many girls do you commonly take upstairs? My goal is 4. Two on their own and then one 3 way.

I am really pumped for this night, guys. It's always been a fantasy of mine but wasn't possible due to my location and lack of funds. But now, it's actually happening!

Phordphan
07-20-15, 19:11
Hmm, I see. I thought it might be like clubs in the US, where it's always good to make friends with the bouncers if you can. I guess I was mistaken.

I do read ***, but I wasn't planning on getting an escort. Heck, I didn't know escorting existed in Mexico, since street prostitution and brothels are legal. I am actually surprised that websites and agencies exist, I thought that was only the case in the US because sex work is illegal.

Man, way to put a damper on my trip. I'm beginning to think about cancelling my flight. I had read a few pages back in this thread and nobody mentioned that it was very dangerous visiting there.
It can be a good idea to make friends with a favorite mesero, or the doorman, in Mexico, too. But that takes time and many visits, neither of which you have. In the states you are an American, the bouncer is an American (usually), you have a common frame of reference. You don't have that luxury during your fist trip to Tijuana, so you'll need to stick with what's "easiest. ".

Brothels (and pimping) in Mexico are NOT legal. Prostitution is. That's why you must exit a bar, walk (very briefly) on a public street, and enter the hotel which is, technically, a separate building. There are many reasons why a girl might ply her trade with an agency or as an independent. A "good" girl won't be caught dead in the Zona Norte. If the girl has an outside job, or something of a reputation to protect, she won't work in a ZN bar. Also, the bars have grueling shifts. Anywhere from 8 to 12 hours per day, 6 days per week. There are variations. Imaging getting dressed every day, listening to loud (sometimes strange) music for over 8 hours, a smoky environment, guys pawing at you, teetering around in hooker heels. To some girls it's not worth the grief. IMHO, the independent scene in Tijuana is far more interesting than the clubs. It's less money, often better sex, and much better motels.

With much respect to a VERY senior poster, said poster said Tijuana was very dangerous, but that he hadn't been here in a long time. That's not very valuable information. It's like me saying I'd avoid Cambodia because last time I was there the Khmer Rouge were kidnapping people and it was a very dangerous place. Things are different all over. Yes, you can get shaken down by a cop. It's been happening for centuries. But it doesn't happen to everybody. You learn what to expect if it happens, and deal with it. RTF and you'll find lots of helpful data. Yes, there are shootings. They are not common, that's why they get so much press. Could you be killed by a stray bullet? Yes. Has it ever happened in the Zona? Not that I'm aware of.

My point is, for a first-timer, stick with the clubs. Don't wander off. There are plenty of areas of DC you don't want to wander around in after dark. Most of the area around the ZN is the same way. Don't wander the streets shitfaced. Always try to be aware of your surroundings. Just basic common sense for any urban dweller.

Go and have a good time. Report back here with your experiences.

Dickhead
07-20-15, 19:52
poster said Tijuana was very dangerous, but that he hadn't been here in a long time. I did not say Tijuana is "very" dangerous, for the exact reason that I have not been in there in several years. Rather, I pointed out some destinations that I believe to be less dangerous. So that is a relative concept and not an absolute concept.

Having said that, my first visit was in 1972 and it was quite dangerous. I went there numerous times between 1972 and 2009, maybe thirty times and approximately once per year. It was dangerous throughout that era. But maybe it's different now. Maybe México has a handle on its drug problem and its police corruption. Oh, wait a minute; no, they don't. I have mongered all over the world and Tijuana has produced by far the most stories of ripoffs and shakedowns among my mongering acquaintances.

I would agree that the mongering in Montreal is superior to that of Toronto, but, of course, Montreal introduces a language issue for monoglots whereas Toronto does not.

By the way, the legality of brothels varies from state to state in México. For example, they are legal in Jalisco, or at least were the last time I was there.

Jackie888
07-20-15, 22:05
It means "I am coming" (not "cumming" ja ja) or "I'm on my way. " This was strange to me as I learned the language because "voy" is from the verb "ir" which is to go
. So, I thought it should be "vengo," from the verb "venir," or to come.

If the doorbell rings, an English speaker yells "I'm coming," but to a Spanish speaker, you are the one who came, and I am going towards you. They yell out "Voy" or "Ya voy. " It indicates movement away from the speaker. If you ask me "Vienes a mi casa?" (are you coming to my house?) my response is NOT "Si, vengo" (yes, I am coming) but rather "Si, voy" (yes, I am going).In the totality of things, I think that she was responding to the door boy. He's knocking to let her know his time is up so she needs to go and finish up. She yells at him that "I'm going". To finish real soon, so shut the hell up and wait.

AnonX69
07-20-15, 23:06
In the totality of things, I think that she was responding to the door boy. He's knocking to let her know his time is up so she needs to go and finish up. She yells at him that "I'm going". To finish real soon, so shut the hell up and wait.Yes that's what got from his explaination.

Exoticspirit
07-21-15, 00:16
Thanks for the overview. Besides the strip club sex, this sounds like the same as what is offered in the US. Is there an advantage to going to Montreal or Toronto instead of, say, New York? Lower prices?Average outcall prices with the agencies are $180 to $200 Canadian which is roughly $138 to $152 US now. As for advantage. French Canadian women -- need I say more?

The Tall Man
07-21-15, 01:52
Guys if your planning on FS in the upper VIP rooms at Miami lounge (connected to HK) be sure to bring your own condoms and lube.

A week ago took my favorita upstairs to play and was told sex is not allowed anymore.

We all know that things change all the time in HK so this maybe just another eb and flow of life in the Zona.

More likely somebody realized if they tell guys and girls that they can have sex in these rooms, as they have been doing since they opened these rooms up, they are in effect breaking the law and are pimping which is illegal. The hotel rooms MUST HAVE a separate entrance from the bar and well these room are directly connected.

My favorite starting to put up a argument with the club but I said cool it and whispered I brought condoms so as soon as he walked out we got nekid and horizontal.

The Tall Man.

BarleyBuckshot
07-21-15, 07:29
I don't believe it unless they took money from you or you paid them off. Nobody argues about not wanting to go into the pick up truck and actually gets away with it.It was front of that police station between the zona and the border.

I do not take any street drugs. They were trying to scare me-I guess they were looking for money.

Maybe I should not walk there any more at night, but I hate taxis.

Jackie888
07-21-15, 16:31
Guys if your planning on FS in the upper VIP rooms at Miami lounge (connected to HK) be sure to bring your own condoms and lube.

A week ago took my favorita upstairs to play and was told sex is not allowed anymore.

We all know that things change all the time in HK so this maybe just another eb and flow of life in the Zona.

More likely somebody realized if they tell guys and girls that they can have sex in these rooms, as they have been doing since they opened these rooms up, they are in effect breaking the law and are pimping which is illegal. The hotel rooms MUST HAVE a separate entrance from the bar and well these room are directly connected.

My favorite starting to put up a argument with the club but I said cool it and whispered I brought condoms so as soon as he walked out we got nekid and horizontal.

The Tall Man.I'm guessing that one of the smaller clubs like the Playboy got busted and now they're apprehensive of getting fined.

AnonX69
07-23-15, 11:55
One of my fantasy was fulfilled tonight at HK or so I thought. It was HK 25th anniversary tonight, almost all the chicas were wearing some kind of Asian costumes, never seen so many chopsticks in a club before. It was strange seing the security at the door in samurai costumes, I guess we Asians all look the same to them. Hello, samurai=Japanese, HK=Chinese. As I was watching a few gringa lesbians enjoying foam show, I noticed Chun-Li dancing above them and headed upstate. I think there were 3 dressed in the get up, the one that got me all worked up had red hair.

I didn't bother with her name, tonight she was Chun-Li to me and she's going to make m my fantasy come true. I was able to get her to accept 1000 peso and got the worst lay of my life. After a quick BJ, she got on top and used her fist to prevent me from fully penetrating her. Wtf, first time I've experienced this. I was not having this, I didn't want to fuck someone's first. I flipped her over, pinned both her wrist above her head, and gave it to her as hard as I could. I wanted to bruise that hole so the rest of the night would be painful for her if she does more arriba. As we were leaving she wanted a tip, I tossed her 10 peso and left.

The night got a whole lot better when I got to adelitas, the MILF Steffany, that I enjoyed so much from there has returned after going home to Mazatlan for 2 weeks to visit her kids. Made me forget all about my broken dreams.

If you are in HK and see a red headed chica with a lot of tattoos, avoid her, I should of gotten her name, but wanted her to be Chun-Li so bad. =: (.

AnonX69
07-23-15, 13:25
I'm guessing that one of the smaller clubs like the Playboy got busted and now they're apprehensive of getting fined.I see now why you like playboy so much.

Captain Solo
07-24-15, 16:21
This playboy club is sleazy, rundown, filthy place with holes in the walls, grimy floor ect. The place smells sweaty and shiitty. The girls are old, ugly, nasty-looking, have been reported to rip off guys and act nasty. I don't know why a few guys insist it's a nice place to hang out.

The cubicles behind the small stage are tiny and dark. The guys would take the old, ugly girls into the cubicle then you would hear the furniture creaking and banging in there. These people actually try to have sex in those cramped and smelly closets.

I would never waste a minute or a dollar in such a low-brow place. Would never drive that distance to hang out with ugly old women in dive bars. HK is a lot cleaner, classier, more fun with good-looking young girls.

JebScheb
07-24-15, 18:25
Went to Tijuana for the 1st time, spent most the night in Hong Kong, walked there from the border and taxi back. Begining of the night was not so great, I sat down and was watching the show when some guy with a whistle started pouring tequila in my mouth. F#$k that guy, my game was off the rest of the night. Anyways I was not entirely sure how everything worked, it took quite awhile before I realized that you can go up to any girl and ask her if she wants a drink. I'm young and good looking so I had a harder time with the younger girls because they seemed a little inimidated by me (or maybe they intimidated me, who knows I was fairly drunk.) Turns out I enjoy the older women with the big tits and asses so it worked out.

I have a few questions though:

1) I would pick out a girl and buy her 1 drink, we would go sit down and I would get to fondle the heck out of her. Then she'd start bugging me to take her upstairs, so I didn't buy any second drinks for the girls. In the end I had bought 5 drinks for 5 different women. Couple seemed fairly peeved at me afterwards. One got kind of angry. Should I not just buy them one drink? Amd I supposed to do more? All I wanted was just 5 minutes of booby time.

2) Will they remember me? It was my first time to Tijuana so I didn't have a grip of what I was doing. Do the same girls work every night? And will they care if I go back? What if I take them up stairs.

This forum is awesome, thanks guys.

RickyVee
07-25-15, 01:55
Yo Jeb glad you had a good time. Thing with girls is they want you to go upstairs to make their cash. Girls schedules are erratic so most likely not. Don't know if they give a shit if you come back or not. From the coin you dropped on drinks another 20 would have got laid unless you like groping over fucking then I guess you did ok. Key is to pick a girl who you want to lay negotiate price for what want then do the deed. Next time you will be ready hope that helps.