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Ups I didn't know that your theory about national group pressure at FKK clubs works (only) at Artemis and doesn't work at Palace or is it the other way around. LOL.It was not a theory. It was an observation of Artemis in the Artemis thread.
HB: please make all the metaphysical theories you want. I have upgraded my bandwidth.
Aha. So in a club with 60 Romanians, 10 Bulgarians, 5 Polish and 2 Germans the German girls would give the best service, followed by the Polish, Bulgarian and Romanians. Interesting theory. But only a theory.
HB.In general, Romanians tend to give bad service.
Not all Romanians, but they mostly give bad service. Like 99% LOL.
In general, Romanians tend to give bad service.
Not all Romanians, but they mostly give bad service. Like 99% LOL.Indeed. But it is more due to the climate at Artemis than Romanians in general.
Nooky Ninja
10-24-16, 20:50
Indeed. But it is more due to the climate at Artemis than romanians in general.Indeed not. All this nationalistic theory stuff is IMHO complete bullshit. And just from good statistics sample. If there are more girls from somewhere, like maybe 60%, then of course odds are there may be more problems reported from that group as there are more of them vs. others. But has nothing to do with national origin. Correlation not causation. That was HB point and he is right. There are many great Romanians if you choose wisely. There are great women from everywhere. If anything, maybe one generalization that has some truth is how fine Italian men behave on the weekend - something almost all girls at Artemis confirm. But there are also even Italian gentlemen Ninja knows.
Every 6 months this comes up like flu season. Pseudo scientists make silly statements that go on for days to show how worldly and experienced they are when actually it shows opposite. Then it dies out (yey).
Only thing that matters ever is chemistry. If you have bad time, mostly blame yourself, not because some girl came from Upper Fuckistan. Signs were probably there if you were observant enough, and most bad experiences avoided by saying no to zimmer if vibe bad. And many men, some obviously nuts, think just paying 60 Eur will guarantee them good time, when they have many "issues" themselves. Silly and show ignorance and inexperience.
How man and woman click together is individual thing, difficult to predict. Even in real world you can have fun date, then go to bed together and can be not so great. It just happens. Please now we leave metaphysics (or go to Lounge, or Bathroom) and just get back to reports that help others.
Your post is ridiculous. Chemistry is important. Allways is. The larger the nationality, the larger chance of conflicts. Also true. But also the larger chance of rules being made within these large groups. Italians? LOL. Girls told you this? You later tipped her 100 euro? :p
She also told you you are an Italian stallion with a big anaconda?
Your comment about 60 euro tells me that you are fine with girls upselling. I never extend with girls that hold back during a 30min session. But with good girls I go 1h sometimes too, if you take the reverse approach to this, then you either don't have a good handle of your money, or you open yourself to getting screwed over by the girl(s)
Romanians are top girls in general I agree. FKK's would be dull without them. But at Artemis there is a bad group that has formed. Some of them seems to be gone after the raid though. So they are not as many as they were. But still influential.
ExpatLover
10-25-16, 07:22
In general, Romanians tend to give bad service.
Not all Romanians, but they mostly give bad service. Like 99% LOL.If you believe in this it is better you stay out of the FKK in Germany because most probably 90% of the girls are from Romanian even they will tell you that they are coming from a other country. Obviously I can t agree with your statement and over the years I had great experiences with the Romanian girls.
Nooky Ninja
10-25-16, 07:55
Your post is rediculous. Chemistry is important. Allways is. The larger the nationality, the larger chance of conflicts. Also true. But also the larger chance of rules being made within these large groups. Italians? LOL. Girls told you this?P-this was not meant as an attack on you, and apologies if you took it so. But you missed points or misunderstood much; Italian men comment meant to be ironic (everyone knows they are a disaster on the weekend). And 60 Eur bit nothing to do with up-selling or time. Only that just because you pay a girl something, this not overcome bad chemistry. This is essential point of good FKK experience; not where girl (or monger) comes from.
Your worry about cliques- so what, they are everywhere, who cares? There are many cliques in Artemis, just like in any office. Some related to nationality, some just friends network. But what goes on in zimmer is between one individual girl and you. If somehow you feel clique behavior influences this, you (the monger not you personally) have allowed this to happen and affect price and experience. If you cannot take charge of this situation, discuss and agree on what is expected before zimmer, or just say no if vibe is bad, no point in going to FKK club. Anyway, at least you agree with other "rediculous" points.
Whatever. Please now we just move back to real reports and enough of all this United Nations stuff.
In general, Romanians tend to give bad service.
Not all Romanians, but they mostly give bad service. Like 99% LOL.If you really meant that Mr Ho I think you really need to consider your own performance!
I monger in Spain a lot (more than in Germany) where there is a far better balance of latinas and other nationalities. In Vive Madrid there are probably no higher than 15% Romanian girls, and maybe 20% in Scanadalo in Malaga. Yet if I had to rank my top 5 girls of all time in Spain (and trust me that spans about 25 years!) I'd put 3 Romanian girls in that top 5. In fact, my top girl in each of those two clubs, and Factory Air in Madrid, and in Artemis, Oase, Temptation in Vilamoura Portugal, New York Bar in Dubai and even in Cosmopolitan Manchester UK are ALL Romanian and trust me I am picky about good service!
So you've either had extremely bad luck. Or your estimation of 99% Romanian girls giving bad service was just a joke. You did say LOL after it so I'll assume it was the latter.
Payforit: it probably comes from the fact the Mr. Ho has mainly gone to Artemis. And hit the same group I discussed.
Met lots of WG's from Romania who has worked in Spain also. Generally quite good service, but the groups that can form at german FKK's can turn it into a bad cocktail. Maybe it has to do with the rates they get in Germany which is not appreciating much year on year. Then again, whole Europe is stagnating and unemployment rate is high. So it is hard to point fingers.
PussyLiccker
10-26-16, 03:47
All depends on MrHo's taste, and how many Romies he has tried at several clubs, and what clubs he has tried the Romies at. Probably has to open up his sampling at various places, and the truth will come out. Also, consider that people have differing ideas in what they think of good service.
Aha. So in a club with 60 Romanians, 10 Bulgarians, 5 Polish and 2 Germans the German girls would give the best service, followed by the Polish, Bulgarian and Romanians. Interesting theory. But only a theory.
HB.Here is an example. Within the 60, you have higher odds that you sample enough that you'd find a good service provider. But also, there maybe more bad providers in the pack than say 5 Polish and 2 Germans. Or with such a few number of Polish or Germans, too few to say either or. Just luck has it the 2 Germans are good providers, or bad luck that both are not.
Any crazy shit happening on Halloween at Artemis? I will be in town Sunday and Monday night. If you have to show up in a costume on Monday I'll pass. Is Sunday a good time to go or is a ghost town (pun intended)?
PL: Well HB is clearly not a frequent visitor at Artemis, and never has been either.
Hessen Bub
10-26-16, 08:52
PL: Well HB is clearly not a frequent visitor at Artemis, and never has been either.You don't have any clue and you show it with every post. I am not a frequent visitor due to the reasons I have stated before. But I have been quite a few times. The first time about 2 weeks after they opened.
HB.
Your post is rediculous. Chemistry is important. Allways is. The larger the nationality, the larger chance of conflicts. Also true. But also the larger chance of rules being made within these large groups. Italians? LOL. Girls told you this? You later tipped her 100 euro? :p
She also told you you are an italian stallion with a big anaconda?
Your comment about 60 euro tells me that you are fine with girls upselling. I never extend with girls that hold back during a 30min session. But with good girls I go 1h sometimes too... if you take the reverse approach to this, then you either dont have a good handle of your money, or you open yourself to getting screwed over by the girl(s)
Romanians are top girls in general I agree. FKK's would be dull without them. But at Artemis there is a bad group that has formed. Some of them seems to be gone after the raid though. So they are not as many as they were. But still influential.Truth is without the Romanians many saunaclubs would of closed, I've had good sessions with Roms also.
After a day at Venus I walked over to Artemis, got there just after 9 pm, now I was expecting the place to be packed, it being Venus week, but surprisingly it wasn't, I went and got some dinner first as hadn't eaten much all day. After dinner got a drink at the bar, bumped into Anna the blonde busty Rom I'd sessioned with, maybe see her later, had a sauna and relaxed, got talking to Evan, I've noticed on previous visits but never spoken, a very good looking young lady, told her I'd come and find her later, maybe I should of grabbed her early.
Brianna half hour.
Was talking to Brianna, said she was Spanish, more likely Romanian, but she ticked the boxes and told me what she will do, so took her to a room, a decent half hour FK and OWO, very strong session, enjoyable time had.
Took my time relaxing in the lounge with a drink, looking out for my next target, got talking to a young blonde barbie from Rom, forget her name, have seen her in the club before, she has a friend with similar blonde with fake tits, she obviously took me for a dumb tourist, as she tried to upsell to two girl session with her friend, 3 somes isn't usually my thing, and I told her I was only interested in one lady, the dumb bird wouldn't back down, she said maybe see you later, I said no you won't, I won't ever go with you now and walked away, 2 minutes later both girls are doing a circuit from the bar to kino and back, empty handed, I was sat at the side, and I did chuckle, and say "oh dear no customers?" which the girl didn't appreciate.
Samantha half hour.
Shortly after got talking to Samantha a Bulgarian, have seen her in the club before, large fake boobs and toned body wears glasses, took her to a room, and she was really good, FK and very fine OWO, I was enjoying this session, we had sex in several positions, Samantha was on top, and then she said time is nearly up baby, I looked at my watch and said no we still got 10 minutes left, so an argument then ensues while my cocks still inside her Wtf! I'm not a dumb newbie, and I don't cum in 5 minutes, I always make a point of checking the time when I enter a room, and pace the session at my speed, Samantha complained that most guys don't last so long, well sorry dear I don't cum so fast, get my monies worth, so that was a big mood killer, she stopped arguing and sucked my cock for 5 minutes we had left, I wasn't going to extend after her BS! A real shame as if she hadn't tried to pull this I would of seen her on future trips.
I took my time in the sauna and pool downstairs, went back up to the lounge and it was still fairly quiet, I walked up to Evan and told her I did promise to come find her earlier, she said she was having a break, Evan is a busy girl, I can understand she likes a little break between sessions, so I said no problem, come and find me later when you're ready, I'm not going to stalk a hooker all night.
Well I didn't go with anyone else that night, my nemesis Virginia still hates me hehe, she did look at me couple of times, and I went home at about 3 am.
Saturday.
Again this day spent my time at Venus, and arrived in Artemis at around 9 pm, again club was fairly quiet, got changed and showered, walked in the lounge to get a drink, and Evan was at the bar in front of me, she turned round and said oh it's you, we exchanged pleasantries and she moved on, I took my time had a meal and another drink, it was a surprise that the club was fairly quiet again, I mentioned it to a few girls and they agreed.
Vanity half hour.
Got talking to Vanity at the bar, nice black girl, been room with her on previous trip, couldn't see anyone else to catch my eye, so took her up to a room, Vanity is good, no rush or upsell, great OWO and sex in various positions, enjoyed the session, would repeat.
Had a break and some more food, then a rest in the lounge, place had got slightly more busy, had a drink and a look about, the two blonde Rom barbies saw me and kept walking, also said Hi to Samantha, but I won't take her to room again. Spent more time down in the wellness area, wasn't in a rush for a second session, went back to the lounge and had a sit down at the bar, what I noticed that night is Evan is a very busy girl, most of the evening she's taken, and she appears for short periods at the bar, as I sat there I watched as three guys one after another in a space of a couple minutes approaching her, she said she was on a break, she's that busy she can afford to turn guys away, as she did with me, one guy was determined and she finally agreed to go with him, she's a sexy girl, but I don't make a habit of begging hookers to go room with me, maybe catch her early is a good idea, but goes to show some girls there are busy, Evan must be one of the top earners at Artemis.
I didn't session again that night and left for the airport at 5 am, was not a bad visit, shame I got Samantha cutting short, and the two barbies trying it on, I will return soon.
Member #4438
10-26-16, 18:19
After a day at Venus I walked over to Artemis, got there just after 9 pm, now I was expecting the place to be packed, it being Venus week, but surprisingly it wasn't, I went and got some dinner first as hadn't eaten much all day. After dinner got a drink at the bar, bumped into Anna the blonde busty Rom I'd sessioned with, maybe see her later, had a sauna and relaxed, got talking to Evan, I've noticed on previous visits but never spoken, a very good looking young lady, told her I'd come and find her later, maybe I should of grabbed her early.
Brianna half hour.
Was talking to Brianna, said she was Spanish, more likely Romanian, but she ticked the boxes and told me what she will do, so took her to a room, a decent half hour FK and OWO, very strong session, enjoyable time had.
Took my time relaxing in the lounge with a drink, looking out for my next target, got talking to a young blonde barbie from Rom, forget her name, have seen her in the club before, she has a friend with similar blonde with fake tits, she obviously took me for a dumb tourist, as she tried to upsell to two girl session with her friend, 3 somes isn't usually my thing, and I told her I was only interested in one lady, the dumb bird wouldn't back down, she said maybe see you later, I said no you won't, I won't ever go with you now and walked away, 2 minutes later both girls are doing a circuit from the bar to kino and back, empty handed, I was sat at the side, and I did chuckle, and say "oh dear no customers?" which the girl didn't appreciate.
Samantha half hour...I was also there on Friday the 14th, left at 1 am. I thought the place was packed, with girls at least. Had to wait 10 minutes for a room but that may not be that much of a waiting time.
Virginia is the tall blonde with big tits and pouty lips right? She hates me as well, gives me those "I'll kill you" looks.
You don't have any clue and you show it with every post. I am not a frequent visitor due to the reasons I have stated before. But I have been quite a few times. The first time about 2 weeks after they opened.
HB.So if you are not a frequesnt visitor, then why comment here on stuff you are not updated on? This is low, even from you. If I read you right, you havent been there for years. What you did 10 years ago is of no concern...
That's the point. The experiences from HB are quite old. And we all know his taste, he loves the youngest natural girls from Romania and so on. That's OK and then he should go to Oase, World etc.
But in this conclusion it is not correct to repeat it every time that the service of the girls is worse than in other clubs. That is complete nonsense.
Artemis is the best running club in Germany and it's right there are big differences in the service from girl to girl and from guest to guest but in the middle it's absolute OK.Well Mr HB is pretty accurate. His taste is one different thing, but his info is rather accurate, he is like machine LOL.
Truth is without the Romanians many saunaclubs would of closed, I've had good sessions with Roms also.Right, better Romanians than asians or other races to my taste. I had good sessions with Ro too, but they ain't my favorite sessions. I like hardcore things.
I was also there on Friday the 14th, left at 1 am. I thought the place was packed, with girls at least. Had to wait 10 minutes for a room but that may not be that much of a waiting time.
Virginia is the tall blonde with big tits and pouty lips right? She hates me as well, gives me those "I'll kill you" looks.I meant not so many guys which was better for us, just thought it being Venus week it would of been a cockfest.
Virginia hates you too? It's not just me then LOL.
Vanity half hour.
Got talking to Vanity at the bar, nice black girl, been room with her on previous trip, couldn't see anyone else to catch my eye, so took her up to a room, Vanity is good, no rush or upsell, great OWO and sex in various positions, enjoyed the session, would repeat.
Nice Report.
A question to Vanity, who is she? As I know in last weeks there are only 4 black girls in Artemis:
1) An older dominican girl with nice attitude always smiling, I forgot her name but she is not Vanity.
2) Other small and thin dominican who always has a small cloth on her hips, she has small tits and very small ass. Is she Vanity?
3) A small black girl with big hangers. I'm not sure but if she is the girl I had a session last year, this girl told me me she was from Hamburg and spoke good German. But she didn, t like DATY and FIV. Watching her I always like her, but I,m not sure if she is the girl which refused DATY?
4) A tall black girl with small tits, not my thing.
Hessen Bub
10-27-16, 14:18
So if you are not a frequesnt visitor, then why comment here on stuff you are not updated on? This is low, even from you. If I read you right, you havent been there for years. What you did 10 years ago is of no concern...The situation hasn't changed. Or maybe it has, I read from several posts that it got even worse after the Razzia.
HB.
That's the point. The experiences from HB are quite old. And we all know his taste, he loves the youngest natural girls from Romania and so on. That's OK and then he should go to Oase, World etc.
But in this conclusion it is not correct to repeat it every time that the service of the girls is worse than in other clubs. That is complete nonsense.
Artemis is the best running club in Germany and it's right there are big differences in the service from girl to girl and from guest to guest but in the middle it's absolute OK.I have a few top girls as favourites at Artemis too. That would be top at any club. The bulgarian group there has a very high standard and has never failed me for example. And some of the romanians who doesn't care for being in a group are great. Russians and asians there also never seem to disappoint. With germans and romanians, the two dominant groups, it is a bit more random.
HB: Group formations and internal rules change over time. Allways does...
Nooky Ninja
10-27-16, 17:23
HB: Group formations and internal rules change over time. Allways does...This has gotten unbelievably boring. If you guys want pissing contest, just do it with PMs, or meet up in some parking lot with swords and have real duel.
Let's just move on and start writing public reports useful to others. Jerboa saved the week.
ZimmerBaby
10-27-16, 22:43
Huge natural beautiful melons. Sucked on them with my eyes closed. Like a baby receiving nourishment from a mother. She was staring at me with dead pan eyes. Felt like I had a session going on with Sylvester Stallone. Had to tell a joke to make her smile.
VonderJohn
10-28-16, 01:16
This has gotten unbelievably boring. If you guys want pissing contest, just do it with PMs, or meet up in some parking lot with swords and have real duel.
Let's just move on and start writing public reports useful to others. Jerboa saved the week.LOL I love Ninja's sarcastic humor in this forum. Always gives a nice twist to the sometimes boring atmosphere around here. Thank you!
After reading some reports, here is a summary of some good and bad bets in Artemis:
Good bets:
Vanity.
Evan.
Brianna.
Ginger.
Garbiela.
Bad bets:
Samantha.
Jayne.
Kiara.
Feel free to modify / add / remove from the list above and update it whenever needed.
Arrived Berlin on Wednesday for business trip. Want to re-visit Artemis before I leave for Paris on Friday. Around 6 pm I entered club. The LU seemed below of my expectation. There might be 40-60 girls already, but I doubt there is anyone younger than 25 years old. Last time I visited was October 2013. I still remembered the old wonderful time I spent with beautiful Nina (CZ), Leah, De? Alise, De. All three seem not to be here anymore. Even if they were, I don't think I could recognize them immediately.
After finishing mediocre supper, I started to wander to spot girls who could fit my taste. So disappointed! Whole club is full of women with tan and coarse skin and silicone. I had to go to non-smoking basement to have a nap, hoping LU would become better later. I fell asleep and woke up by girls' screams. I looked at my watch, it's almost 9 o'clock. I wasted three hours in club. A brunette approached me, she is a Spanish girl. She told me her name twice, just sound like Brannie. Although she is not the type of girl I prefer, I decided to pick her up. There is no too many selections, at least she is pretty. Service is OK, just OK level. 120 euro, no tip, no repeat.
Standing on the narrow hallway of second floor, I watched girls going up and down for about 15 min. Almost none I want to take. Two Romanian girls came to me, when they realized that I might be an infrequent visitor, they immediately suggested threesome. I refused. They kept bugging me until I said I need to go to restroom. I fled quickly.
I left around 11 pm. To be honest, it was one of the worst my FKK experiences.
Hessen Bub
10-28-16, 08:17
There might be 40-60 girls already, but I doubt there is anyone younger than 25 years old.
Whole club is full of women with tan and coarse skin and silicone.
Two Romanian girls came to me, when they realized that I might be an infrequent visitor, they immediately suggested threesome. I refused. They kept bugging me until I said I need to go to restroom. I fled quickly.
To be honest, it was one of the worst my FKK experiences.That can't be. According to Suppenhuhn it's the best running club in Germany. LOL.
HB.
There are a few girls younger than 25. Carrie is just 23 I think. Sona also is just 24 I believe. And a few of the romanians (maybe 2 or 3) are 23 or 24 also. Among them that petite half ukrainian girl. But I think the girls below 25 are counted on one hand. Unless some new ones have arrived.
Can I proclaim Artemis to be the top BJ FKK in Germany? I recently revisited after almost two years away and all 4 girls I took provided solid long professional-level BBBJ. Was it just a fluke?
Overall impression: professional but not unfriendly. From the bar staff to the girls, there is a general lack of warmth but they work hard to make you happy: going through the motions with good work ethic. I can confirm that they are mostly 25+ and have been there for years.
I took: girl with frizzy dyed red hair and sillies (Ro, 23); Daphne? With the round Asianish face, red hair and glasses (Ro, 27); Sylvia (Ro, 29) who pushed for threesome with her friend; "Romanian / Russian from Italy" with big sillies (Ro?, 28?) All 30 minute bookings and no major complaints about any of them. I also saw Raissa that I sessioned with last time who didn't remember me at all. She gets clients but walks around with completely dead eyes.
Various observations: good hot showers, good coffee, fairly smokey lounge, decent food (but saw no dessert other than fruit), good rooms mostly with mirrors. Girls approach a fair amount, with a few repeat offenders, but generally accept refusal well. Extras like CIM are 50 e. Still not thrilled about 80 e entry and 60 e session but accessibility of the club is hard to beat.
SuppenHuhn
10-28-16, 14:13
HB,
You are a clown and confuses different topics. Yes Artemis is the best running Club in Germany with the most guests (about 400-500 every day incl. The girls) and they have queues of woman to work.
And REALLY not every visitor is satisfied with the service and not every girl is the best performer in town. Please go your favorite clubs in Hessen for example World or Oase. There are all People satisfied with every woman.
But you are right that girls in Artemis are a little older than in Hessen clubs. For an old sack like me better. Please tell me about your next Arte visit, maybe we can talk once more and I can help you a little LOL.
Hessen Bub
10-28-16, 17:08
HB,
You are a clown ...
Please tell me about your next Arte visit, maybe we can talk once more and I can help you a little LOL.I know I'm funny. I'll text you if (that's a big if) I visit Artemis again.
HB.
I visited Artemis last Monday 24th October, last time I was there was back in June 2015, I think the place is better now since the raid, it seems to have cleared out a lot of the pushy girls that did not want to be there. I was with 3 girls, all half hour EUR 60 sessions:
Jessy: Romania, Blonde hair, very tall at least 175 cm without heels. Started out in the kino with BBJ which was quite shallow, she wouldn't go deep, then moved to room beside kino for CFS. She asked me to take it slowly, as this was my first session I wanted to take it slowly as was quite sensitive, however I reckon if you wanted to give her a good pounding she wouldn't be up for it. I wouldn't repeat, I don't think she's bitchy but probably quite new at doing this.
Tara: Romania, 24 yrs old, Blonde / Brown hair, about 170 cm tall. Similar to Jessy had BBJ in kino then moved to room next door. Her BBJ was really good, deep throat wet and sloppy just the way I like it. Then some CFS in various positions, she seemed to really like reverse cow girl and looking at me in the mirror. Good session but probably wouldn't repeat as she was a bit business like.
Mandy: Austria, 27 yrs old, very Blonde hair, very white skin, maybe 160 cm tall. Went to room upstairs, started with nice DFK which I never asked for upfront, it just happened and was nice. She asked me to lick her pussy which I did for about 10 minutes, she seemed to really enjoy it, no fake moaning! Then onto BBJ and CFS in various positions, great session. I would definitely repeat with this girl next time I'm in Artemis if she is still there.
PussyLiccker
10-29-16, 20:01
Artemis is the best running Club in Germany with the most guests (about 400-500 every day incl. The girls) and they have queues of woman to work.Best? Best business in Germany?
The club has no real club competition. Easily accessible vis public transport for the quick fly in folks. Berlin has a large tourist attraction and would benefit the club as well.
The only club in the city is doing well business wise is separate from quality of the LU and the avg service level in the club.
If anything alternatives clubs around will competition that would motivate the club to strive to keep competitive. They got no competition.
Not saying competition is always advantageous. Saturation of clubs in the market is disavantageous as well.
The truth of the matter is the De market is saturated with clubs and they get filled with Romies as that's the dominent group. Any other nationalities, most would be on the older age bracket as they are a very small minorities and they get into the industry much less. So looking for younger age bracket, the odds are in favor in the Romanian space.
Nooky Ninja
10-30-16, 00:41
Best? Best business in Germany? The club has no real club competition. Easily accessible vis public transport for the quick fly in folks. ... Any other nationalities, most would be on the older age bracket as they are a very small minorities and they get into the industry much less. So looking for younger age bracket, the odds are in favor in the Romanian space.Tom Waits, accused of drinking on Fernwood Tonight TV show, said: "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkt9TIdpvrY
Ninja hope now that Artemis Sociology week is finally over.
I visited Artemis last Monday 24th October, last time I was there was back in June 2015, I think the place is better now since the raid, it seems to have cleared out a lot of the pushy girls that did not want to be there. I was with 3 girls, all half hour EUR 60 sessions:
Jessy: Romania, Blonde hair, very tall at least 175 cm without heels. Started out in the kino with BBJ which was quite shallow, she wouldn't go deep, then moved to room beside kino for CFS. She asked me to take it slowly, as this was my first session I wanted to take it slowly as was quite sensitive, however I reckon if you wanted to give her a good pounding she wouldn't be up for it. I wouldn't repeat, I don't think she's bitchy but probably quite new at doing this.
Tara: Romania, 24 yrs old, Blonde / Brown hair, about 170 cm tall. Similar to Jessy had BBJ in kino then moved to room next door. Her BBJ was really good, deep throat wet and sloppy just the way I like it. Then some CFS in various positions, she seemed to really like reverse cow girl and looking at me in the mirror. Good session but probably wouldn't repeat as she was a bit business like..I actually agree with you, I was at Art this June and I also found it got better after the raid.
LU was better back in 2010 to 2012 though.
BlackUnknown
10-30-16, 12:54
Any crazy shit happening on Halloween at Artemis? I will be in town Sunday and Monday night. If you have to show up in a costume on Monday I'll pass. Is Sunday a good time to go or is a ghost town (pun intended)?Actually I want to know the same thing, so it will be great if anyone can answer that.
Yes, about half the romanian click group had pimps related to, or at least mentionned in accordance with that HA stuff and are now gone (the bad group). No wonder they didn't like it at Artemis. Good riddance as they poisoned the environment. But I also feel sad for them...
Nooky Ninja
10-30-16, 20:04
Actually I want to know the same thing, so it will be great if anyone can answer that.Will be chilled Sunday, slow Monday. Girls maybe dressed up for Halloween fun but will be low key and not crowded, possibly (likely) very quiet.
No costume required but if you feel ambitious, come as a Hollow Weenie. Or even better, come dressed as Romanian Pimp, in keeping with our thread obsessions. Cheap accessories, see here for inspirational ideas:
https://www.google.de/search?q=Romanian+Pimp+image&client=opera&hs=BSI&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0 ahUKEwjl17 fvm4 PQAhVEnRoKHZreD9 QQ_AUICCgB&biw=1280&bih=989
I am in Berlin Sun and Mon so I decided to check it out this evening. Arrived around 8:25 pm and it was busy, not crowded, but busy. Paid my 80, got the rundown, put on my robe, and went straight to the bar for a Diet Coke. I don't drink so I was sipping on Diet Coke all night. Overall, Artemis is similar to other large clubs I have been to around the world. Difference is this. In other clubs (Dubai, Buenos Aires, São Paulo) everyone has clothes on. Artemis, ladies are full nude and dudes walk around with towels or robes. Some wear a small piece of fabric as an accessory but there will nothing left to the imagination here, which I liked.
I was able to find a comfy seat on a sofa by the bar. It seemed there were packs of ladies that hung out on the left side, I went right. I wanted to plant my ass and check out the situation. In short, it was girls on parade, every shape and size. Lots of smoke, which I don't like but bonus is your clothes don't wreak when you leave because your clothes are in a locker. Big plus for me. There definitely seemed to be some veterans there, guys who knew certain girls and talked to them often. And you could see some clicks with the girls as well. I must of had newbie written on my face because in the first 30-min I was approached by 3 sets of friends who offered double trouble. One blond pair from Moldova (don't remember names), one dark pair from Turkey (Melissa and Shayla), which turned into threesome offer later with their other Turkish friend Sheila. Sheila was cute, didn't care for the others. And I don't remember where the third set were from. I politely declined all of them and they were cool. I ran into the Turkish Trio multiple times and we joked around a bit. I ended up going with 2 ladies tonight. One bad, one great. A learning experience for sure.
Brianna: Spanish from Valencia. I speak Spanish and she spoke really good Spanish so if she was faking it she was good. This was my mistake. I was getting a bit jumpy as I had been there for almost an hour and hadn't moved on anyone. Plenty of offers, but I wasn't taking. Brianna was what I call a strobe light honey. Looked good in the bar but not in the room. She did have an incredible ass but that was all that tickled my fancy. I know I could have ended it before we started but I just wanted to get that first one out of the way. And it was quick. After quite a cleaning process (which I don't mind), she went right in for a BBJ. Didn't even ask about a condom. Caught me off guard a bit but I let it go. It didn't last long. From there she put on a jimmy and rode me until I unloaded. Again, lasted about 15-20 minutes. Biggest turn off for me was her teeth. I notice teeth but didn't notice hers until The room and they were struggling. She was pretty mechanical and fake. Would I return to Brianna. Only if it was for ass play only (so nice and tight).
Amy: German from Stuttgart living in Berlin for a while now. We hit it off right from the start. She caught my eye while she was at the bar and she came and joined me on the couch. We talked for about 10 minutes, got to know each other a bit. The chemistry was ten times what it was with Brianna. Not exactly my type but I didn't care because of the connection. Best sex I've had in a long time. Interestingly, she also had quite a cleaning routine and then also jumped right into a very good BBJ. Since I had already unloaded once this was better. And she did a great job. After that she put the jimmy on me and rode me for a bit and then I finished in doggy, which she liked, and so did I. Would I see her again, yep, without hesitation.
Both girls offered extras, CIM and anal for extra, as well as extra time. Overall, I loved Artemis. Might be back tomorrow night. There were some real lookers and some that were not my taste. Seemed to be a good number of girls and guys. In fact, had to wait for a room on my second round. Girls said it was a normal Sunday night. Plenty of room to move and lots of options. And all the girls I met and talked to were cool. Some left quick when they could tell I wasn't interested but that seems logical to me. If your looking for a payday you should move on. Met girls from Germany, Spain, Moldolvia, Dominican Republic, and the former Eastern Block. Everyone was super nice. Didn't try the food. Maybe next time.
I've regularly reported that Artemis is my favorite FKK club in Germany. Usually this brings a number of negative views about the ages of the girls, the amount of siicones, tattoos etc. But one thing is for certain, whilst I've often left Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase disappointed, (LR I don't visit now due to the smoke filled cancer-inducing lounge) I NEVER walk out of Artemis having anything other than a great time. So it was again this evening. Arrived 7 pm. Initially thought the LU looked a little weak. You know you are visiting too often when no less than 5 girls approach you, recall your name within 10 minutes of being in the bar! But alas my favorite (joanne. Ro, long brunette, see cups natural) was not there. Ruby (without Cecilia) and Chrissie (without Joanne) were present. I really like Chrissie (tall blonde with red glasses) - she is great fun, has a great personality and gives great service. But tonight I wanted to try some new girls and there was no shortage for me of lovely girls to try. After some food (fairly poor. It is hit and miss at Artemis) and a beer, met up with stunning blonde Heather. Said from Moldova but spoke perfect Romanian. Stunning. Long blonde hair, bee / see cups natural, not a tattoo in sight. Aged 29 but looks 23. Black corset with attached stockings. She looked amazing. Beautiful face. Off to the room. 1. 5 hours, everything you can ask for in terms of GFE experience. Could have stayed with her all night. Lovely girl, great service, great attitude and not a hint of upsell. Perfect start and hard to leave her.
Shower, watched some football, another beer, into the bar. Immediately attracted to a super tall long dark haired girl on the couches (part of the Scarlett / blonde German crew). Over she came. Cannot recall the name but she says she is Turkish. Dreadful "you want to fuck me baby" opening. I say let's talk first and every second question is "you want to go to the room now? So I wait (not long) for the next "you want to fuck me" and I say "definitely not". No amount of trying to tell her I want to talk first was working. I didn't want a 30 minute interview -just a few minutes. She couldn't believe what she was hearing. She sought confirmation "you say you do NOT want to fuck me?" She said it like every guy in the club for all time wants to fuck her. She was not that good! I tell her I find her really attractive to look at but no I don't want to fuck you because you don't talk other than to ask for the room. I get it's their job but grease the wheels a bit. She is furious and returns to the couch and I had a good chuckle to myself.
Not long after I spot a very pretty short blonde, petite, great body, large tattoo on her back beautifully done. Says her name is Kerry. Sure. Mine is James Bond. It matters not. What does is her lovely smile, great attitude, sexy body and black suspenders. Off we go to the room. 1 hour, some extras (no upsell) and one of the best sessions I'd ever had at Artemis. Body 9/10 service 10/10. Not as GFE as Heather, not as sweet but sultry, sexy and good at everything she did.
There were at least 8 girls I'd have been happy to session with.
The stuff about the LU at Artemis being old is just nonsense. There is a fantastic mix. Spoke to German girls, 2 Dominincan Republicans, one Russian. You just don't get the diversity in other clubs in Germany.
For me, this is head and shoulders the best club in Germany. Service levels are better than anywhere else I've ever been (in Germany). One final point. I asked 7 girls if they knew of the new law prohibiting BBBJ from next July and not a single one of them had heard about it!
"you want to fuck me baby" "you want to fuck me" and I say "definitely not". "you say you do NOT want to fuck me?"
For me, this is head and shoulders the best club in Germany. Service levels are better than anywhere else I've ever been (in Germany). One final point. I asked 7 girls if they knew of the new law prohibiting BBBJ from next July and not a single one of them had heard about it!Thanks for this great report! LOL.
So BBBJ still alive in Art after July next year *thumbs up*.
Thanks for this great report! LOL.
So BBBJ still alive in Art after July next year *thumbs up*.Yep. Interestingly I had similar conversations with a Turkish Trio on Sunday night. A little too pushy for me.
One final point. I asked 7 girls if they knew of the new law prohibiting BBBJ from next July and not a single one of them had heard about it! Maybe they know already, but they are just in denial phase!
Nooky Ninja
11-02-16, 17:46
Thanks for this great report! LOL.
So BBBJ still alive in Art after July next year *thumbs up*.Yes 2 very good reports this week. Ninja must reset pacemaker to "low".
BBBJ issue absolutely not resolved at all. Not clear what this will mean in future, and girls too busy giving BBBJs to understand finer points of German law.
Must consult Der Oracle Herr Doktor Prof Pharisaer. Only he has The Knowledge of where this is all going as of next summer. But as of now, what is will actually mean, and how enforced, very uncertain.
SuppenHuhn
11-02-16, 21:49
PayForlt,
The Turkish woman was maybe Sinem: She has the longest black hair in the club. She is about 180 cm tall.
Nooky Ninja
11-03-16, 07:25
The Turkish woman was maybe Sinem: She has the longest black hair in the club. Seen one, Sinem all.
PayForlt,
The Turkish woman was maybe Sinem: She has the longest black hair in the club. She is about 180 cm tall.The height is about correct and her hair was all the way down her back to her ass so that is probably her. She also had extremely long tallon white nails which were. Impossible not to notice. I liked her until she started speaking.
SuppenHuhn
11-03-16, 11:37
Yes it's Sinem with the nails.
Member #4469
11-03-16, 19:34
Great report PFI!
Arrived at 5 pm on Sunday there were already a decent number of girls at the club. Almost immediately I found one of my favorite girls at Artemis, Akira (thai) in the lounge, she told me she has just arrived after one month vacation so I jumped at the chance to be with her.
Of to the room upstairs 1. 5 h with two pops. Very friendly girl with lots of kissing, DATY, BBBJ and squirting! All you can ask for in terms of GFE! I made her squirt a few times, she said it normally never happens but maybe because this was her first session after her vacation she was extra sensitive!? Great girl! Super service! Only downside she is often booked for many hours, so she is not easy to get hold of!! Highly recommended!
After this great start of the evening I went to the saunas for some much needed recuperation. After a little while I felt ready for another session, ran into Tara (Rom) in the stairs, we talked for a few minutes so there wouldn't be any surprises in the room. She has blond shoulder length hair with modest enhanced breast. Agreed on one hour at first she was not so keen on kissing but after I had her coming hard two times in DATY she became very easy-going and the rest of the session was very GFE. She had 'new' tits so they were very sensitive and therefore not grip friendly yet! Will definitely repeat!
Third and final session on Sunday was Carrie (Bul) 30 min, I have been with her a few times before, last time a couple years ago, unfortunately we don't have such a good chemistry. She is in my opinion one of the prettiest girls at Artemis with a great body and a matching beautiful face with blond hair at the moment (she used to be a brunette). Nice session with DATY, BBBJ and sex. Amazing you can have sex with such a beautiful girl for 60 euro.
Monday, arrived 2 pm at this hour Artemis is quiet which I think is nice because it's not noisy and smoky and absolutely no stress. Had some breakfast and then found Kisha (Ger / Bra) she really has a killerbody with brown curly hair. We have met each other before and we have a good chemistry, meaning we can talk about anything and the sessions (yes I had 2 one hour sessions) become very intense, absolutely GFE, I could become addicted to her!!
After two sessions with Kisha I met a black girl called Marisol (DR) started of in the kino downstairs then of to the rooms, nice girl but only light kissing so decided to only stay 30 min with her. Not sure I will repeat.
The food was not good this day so decided to go out for dinner (Saigon Green in Kantstrasse, very good Vietnamese) and come back later that evening. I was very tired when I returned, if I haven't left things in my locker I shouldn't be back that day, but I wanted to session with Akira but she was prebooked for the whole night, disappointment! Wasn't in the mood for any surprises so went with Madison (Rom?) mainly because I know she is second to none in the art of BBBJ! She is truly amazing! I even get her to squirt during DATY! She is the only one except Anni (Scandalo, Malaga) who has ever squirted during DATY with me!
Tuesday, Started of with breakfast and a session with Kisha again!! Magnificent!!
Found Kiki (Cam) a sexy black girl we had a session for 30 min with fairly good sex but no real connection so decided to stop after 30 min without any pop. Three days with so much sex its not easy to come. Decided it was time to relax in the sauna and swim for a while to get back into action a couple of hours later. Aksena (Bul) then found me on the sofas downstairs at the stair, I can't say no to her, because we have been with each other many times before. Totally GFE for 30 minutes, she is almost as skillful as Madison with her mouth so I had no problem to finish with her!
After this I had no intention to have more sex before I left for my flight, but then I saw her Helena or is it Heather? (Mol) as PFI wrote in his report. Unfortunately I could only stay 30 min with this very beautiful woman. We had a very good time in the room, she described my tongue as the ultimate sextoy for girls!! She said she has been working at Artemis on and off for three years but I have never seen her before! But will definitely repeat if I have the chance!
On this visit to Artemis I did see many girls I haven't seen before and most of them with natural looks. I would say 75% of the girls had natural boobs on these days so to say Artemis is only older girls with silicone is utter nonsense, but I like silicone so I wouldn't mind a few of them getting enhancements!!
Great report PFI!
After this I had no intention to have more sex before I left for my flight, but then I saw her Helena or is it Heather? (Mol) as PFI wrote in his report. Unfortunately I could only stay 30 min with this very beautiful woman. We had a very good time in the room, she described my tongue as the ultimate sextoy for girls!! She said she has been working at Artemis on and off for three years but I have never seen her before! But will definitely repeat if I have the chance!
On this visit to Artemis I did see many girls I haven't seen before and most of them with natural looks. I would say 75% of the girls had natural boobs on these days so to say Artemis is only older girls with silicone is utter nonsense, but I like silicone so I wouldn't mind a few of them getting enhancements!!I'll return the compliment Toxteth. A really good report. Great to see the LU at Artemis changing and becoming fresh. Heather is certainly very pretty and sweet in and out of the room. I have had one session with Marisol before. Your comment on Anni made me smile. Pure coincidence that I was at Scandalo last night and filed a report today about the best performing girl I've had in all my years doing this. A Cuban, Fabianna, body builder but very feminine and could do the splits whilst fucking your cock. Full legs behind ears in mish. Incredible body, great session. You really should try her. As for Anni. Despite going to Scandalo more than any other venue in the World I'm still to meet her! Apologies to all Artemis members for the little deviation to Malaga which I hope can be forgiven given the extensive reports from Toxteth and I this week on the improved LU and some great performers in Artemis.
Does anyone know if Artemis is the only club with a gym?
Artemis is not a very good club. The staff and women are rude. I suspect that this rudeness is because Artemis caters, mainly, to tourists. The guests are first and last time visitors. Therefore, there is little incentive to give good service. If you approach an Artemis woman in a decent manner, you can expect rude treatment.
Does anyone know if Artemis is the only club with a gym?I've asked this question before and have been told it is. But I was recently at Sharks and met a guy from the UK who said he'd been in a gym in either Planet Garden? Or somewhere near there Villa something? I've not been to either but he said they were good. Others who travel around in cars will know those clubs and might known if they have a gym. I'd also like to know the answer for certain.
Artemis is not a very good club. The staff and women are rude. I suspect that this rudeness is because Artemis caters, mainly, to tourists. The guests are first and last time visitors. Therefore, there is little incentive to give good service. If you approach an Artemis woman in a decent manner, you can expect rude treatment.Where in Prague, there are no FKK like Artemis there in Prague.
Artemis is not a good club. One problem with Artemis is that Berlin has few clubs to go to. Since Artemis has little competition, the bad business can get away with rude service. The service is better in Frankfurt because the clubs have to compete with each other.
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Was last time some years ago at Artemis. Line up and service level similar like Palace and below the other big Frankfurt clubs. Low service level at Artemis has almost nothing to do with girls nationality but with client structure (many tourists) and that Artemis has no competition through other clubs.Artemis has little competition and the result is poor service. Berlin is the largest city in Germany. Berlin has, however, only a few FKK clubs. Artemis can get away with poor service because: (1) the lack of other FKK clubs; sex clubs; etc. and, (2) the fact that most people visiting Artemis are tourists. Tourists are first and last time customers. Therefore, the women and the club do not depend on repeat business. If you give a polite Hello, to a woman at Artemis, one can expect to get a rude response. Some of the women at Artemis are sex traffic victims who only work there because some pimp forces her to work at Artemis. Stay away from Artemis. Tourist trap.
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Hello Mr Ho,One should check the Artemis GOOGLE REVIEWS. A constant theme in the GOOGLE REVIEWS is that the women working at Artemis are rude.
I suspect this rudeness is because many women do not want to work at a bad place such as Artemis. The women at Artemis are often forced to work.
At Artemis by a pimp. These women only work enough to satisfy the low demands of a pimp. Read the GOOGLE REVIEWS and stay away.
SuppenHuhn
11-06-16, 18:50
Your posts are ridiculous, ThongLove. Are you the new HB.
Artemis has long queues to work there. The women want to work at this place because of best possibilities to earn much money.
Pimps belong to redlight scene partially but at Artemis not more than at other places.
Nooky Ninja
11-06-16, 19:04
One should check the Artemis GOOGLE REVIEWS. A constant theme in the GOOGLE REVIEWS is that the women working at Artemis are rude.Ah -er - 2 simple questions I cannot seem to get Google to make answers:
1. Have you personally ever been to Artemis?
2. Did you have a perhaps just slightly shitty time-just making wild guessing here?
Maybe you could report on this based upon your own personal experience vs. speculations of Internet "truth"?
A few very good direct reports last week - obviously these senior members were on drugs and or the payroll of Pimps R Us.
One should check the Artemis GOOGLE REVIEWS. A constant theme in the GOOGLE REVIEWS is that the women working at Artemis are rude.
I suspect this rudeness is because many women do not want to work at a bad place such as Artemis. The women at Artemis are often forced to work.
At Artemis by a pimp. These women only work enough to satisfy the low demands of a pimp. Read the GOOGLE REVIEWS and stay away.Yes all the Artemis ladies are pimped out, the pimps are kind enough to let many of the ladies drive 70 k Mercs & BMW's.
Yes all the Artemis ladies are pimped out, the pimps are kind enough to let many of the ladies drive 70 k Mercs & BMW's.Last time I was at Artemis I arrived at 10.55 am just before it opened, there was one other guy standing outside waiting to go in. When the place opened at 11.00 me and this other guy were the only two customers in the door. However the car park was still half full, all with nice Audi, BMW & Mercs, even a Bentley was there. So I assume these cars belong to the girls that are working there and stayed overnight.
Hessen Bub
11-06-16, 23:14
Where in Prague, there are no FKK like Artemis there in Prague.No? http://www.saunaclub.cz/.
HB.
Artemis is not a very good club. The staff and women are rude. I suspect that this rudeness is because Artemis caters, mainly, to tourists. The guests are first and last time visitors. Therefore, there is little incentive to give good service. If you approach an Artemis woman in a decent manner, you can expect rude treatment.Sorry just have to disagree. When were you last there? How often have you been? Please identify the names of those who you say were rude to you. Artemis is a great club and IMHO it's getting better. LU last week was really very good. Bar staff were friendly, as were the two receptionists. I didn't get any rude treatment from anyone. I notice you have 4 posts in total. Are you affiliated with another club perhaps?
It's better not to post wholsale generalisations without some specific evidence to back them up.
No? http://www.saunaclub.cz/.
HB.I was there earlier this year:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?644-Prague&p=1915313&viewfull=1#post1915313.
It's ok. Not on a standard with any of the FKKs in Germany in my view. Good vibe but the rooms are all underground, enclosed, no windows and they are SO hot it was impossible to stay with any girl for a long time without taking breaks to get air.
I most certainly wouldn't return to Prague just to visit this club.
In terms of the general tenor of the attack by ThongLove. There are lots of (serious) allegations of pimping, girls being forced to work there against their will (would be a real surprise to me) and rudeness. As other members have commented, his attack is baseless, appears not to be founded upon any visit, and so should therefore be wholly disregarded unless and until he comes up with something to back up what he was saying.
VonderJohn
11-08-16, 09:32
Last time I was at Artemis I arrived at 10.55 am just before it opened, there was one other guy standing outside waiting to go in. When the place opened at 11.00 me and this other guy were the only two customers in the door. However the car park was still half full, all with nice Audi, BMW & Mercs, even a Bentley was there. So I assume these cars belong to the girls that are working there and stayed overnight.Huh? What? I hope it was a sarcastic comment. Audi, BMWs and Bentley? For the girls? You know how expensive it is to own a car in Germany? Girls who are that rich wouldn't need to work in Artemis. If this is how filthy rich these girls are, then I'd probably think of working in the Artemis myself! LOL.
Nooky Ninja
11-08-16, 19:45
If this is how filthy rich these girls are, then I'd probably think of working in the Artemis myself! LOL.Bentley is owner's but others for sure have hot cars. Do math: 10 or 15 guys per day x 200 days per year. Even with tax and expenses.
However, don't think you would earn that much. Need better plan.
Artemis has little competition and the result is poor service. Berlin is the largest city in Germany. Berlin has, however, only a few FKK clubs. Artemis can get away with poor service because: (1) the lack of other FKK clubs; sex clubs; etc. and, (2) the fact that most people visiting Artemis are tourists. Tourists are first and last time customers. Therefore, the women and the club do not depend on repeat business. If you give a polite Hello, to a woman at Artemis, one can expect to get a rude response. Some of the women at Artemis are sex traffic victims who only work there because some pimp forces her to work at Artemis. Stay away from Artemis. Tourist trap.
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In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks!All true, but if you don't have a choice, that's where you go in Berlin. Do you know other clubs within an hour away with better service and enough girls and clients? I get good service from my girls there. When I take new girls, I have more misses than in Hessen clubs, of course. These are the best.
Artemis has little competition and the result is poor service. Berlin is the largest city in Germany. Berlin has, however, only a few FKK clubs. Artemis can get away with poor service because: (1) the lack of other FKK clubs; sex clubs; etc. and, (2) the fact that most people visiting Artemis are tourists. Tourists are first and last time customers. Therefore, the women and the club do not depend on repeat business. If you give a polite Hello, to a woman at Artemis, one can expect to get a rude response. Some of the women at Artemis are sex traffic victims who only work there because some pimp forces her to work at Artemis. Stay away from Artemis. Tourist trap.
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Great report PFI!
Arrived at 5 pm on Sunday there were already a decent number of girls at the club. Almost immediately I found one of my favorite girls at Artemis, Akira (thai) in the lounge, she told me she has just arrived after one month vacation so I jumped at the chance to be with her.
Of to the room upstairs 1. 5 h with two pops. Very friendly girl with lots of kissing, DATY, BBBJ and squirting! All you can ask for in terms of GFE! I made her squirt a few times, she said it normally never happens but maybe because this was her first session after her vacation she was extra sensitive!? Great girl! Super service! Only downside she is often booked for many hours, so she is not easy to get hold of!! Highly recommended!
After this great start of the evening I went to the saunas for some much needed recuperation. After a little while I felt ready for another session, ran into Tara (Rom) in the stairs, we talked for a few minutes so there wouldn't be any surprises in the room. She has blond shoulder length hair with modest enhanced breast. Agreed on one hour at first she was not so keen on kissing but after I had her coming hard two times in DATY she became very easy-going and the rest of the session was very GFE...A few options exist. You were hallucinating, you have some serious eye sight problems or you cannot differentiate silicone from non silicon. However, your personal issues aside, Artemis has a majority of silicons. Fact. Punkt.
Oh, where are the Nina days in Artemis.
Huh? What? I hope it was a sarcastic comment. Audi, BMWs and Bentley? For the girls? You know how expensive it is to own a car in Germany? Girls who are that rich wouldn't need to work in Artemis.I wasn't been sarcastic, I'm quite sure a lot of these cars belong to the girls. I was with one girl once a few years ago in Artemis, she told me she had recently bought a Porsche Boxter. I thought to myself that is a lot of guys cocks in your mouth to be able to buy a Porsche, but I guess some girls have their priorities!
Carpaccio18
11-08-16, 22:26
No? http://www.saunaclub.cz/.
HB.Yup. Been there couple of times. Not as large or lined up as Artemis by a long way. But concept is the same.
Nooky Ninja
11-08-16, 22:34
I thought to myself that is a lot of guys cocks in your mouth to be able to buy a Porsche, but I guess some girls have their priorities!This discussed years ago with shocking statistics http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1354366&viewfull=1#post1354366
Carpaccio18
11-08-16, 22:43
Was driving from Berlin towards Munich a couple of weeks ago, and had more or less decided to drop by Artemis as I wasn't in a hurry and a had some hours to spare.
Made it as far as pulling up in front of Artemis, but then decided against it last minute mainly as I've been picking up some bad vibes here on the Forum ever since the raid. Must say I haven't been there since.
But maybe things have improved again?
As an aside, I dropped by the FKK in Leipzig instead. Smaller with several girls literally fresh out of Macedonia and Hungary. Not bad, actually.
Huh? What? I hope it was a sarcastic comment. Audi, BMWs and Bentley? For the girls? You know how expensive it is to own a car in Germany? Girls who are that rich wouldn't need to work in Artemis. If this is how filthy rich these girls are, then I'd probably think of working in the Artemis myself! LOL.You're totally clueless, have you ever set foot in Artemis, If like me you tend to arrive at the club early, you will see in the car park several BMW, Mercs, Audi's yes the Bentley is the bosses, now some might be guests, but at midday there are only a handful of guys, some of the top girls earn big money even after paying their taxes.
ExpatLover
11-09-16, 15:21
Huh? What? I hope it was a sarcastic comment. Audi, BMWs and Bentley? For the girls? You know how expensive it is to own a car in Germany? Girls who are that rich wouldn't need to work in Artemis. If this is how filthy rich these girls are, then I'd probably think of working in the Artemis myself! LOL.Nice girls in the FKK never earn less than 1000 euros a day just make the calculation 25 days a month, so easy for them to buy a nice car.
Hessen Bub
11-09-16, 18:12
Nice girls in the FKK never earn less than 1000 euros a day just make the calculation 25 days a month, so easy for them to buy a nice car.How would you know? It's just not the case.
HB.
Nice girls in the FKK never earn less than 1000 euros a day just make the calculation 25 days a month, so easy for them to buy a nice car.That figure is a little generous, I would guess on a good day a popular girl can earn a grand, but not every day, but yes they do earn some serious money, even after paying taxes and costs, and then some guys still go and tip them, when the girl probably earns more than they do.
Nice girls in the FKK never earn less than 1000 euros a day just make the calculation 25 days a month, so easy for them to buy a nice car.If they want to earn that consistently, then they probably have to be perfect in every regard. Like looks, passion, energy etc etc. So maybe if you only choose to label 2-5% of the girls as 'nice girls', then I suppose you are right. But then again you get back to something siri talks about sometimes. Lots of guys get scared of the prettiest girls thinking they won't be as good once in the room. So this mechanism works in a socialistic way... so looks is not allways important even to all guys...
I had the pleasure of spending 30 minutes with Jenna aka Nova Nice. With 1550 CC fake boobs she was by far the bustiest girl in the line up during the two days I visited Artemis. I had wanted to meet her for a while so when I saw her sitting in the bar I got sooooo excited and nervous. Such a long time that happened to me mongering. She was super nice and gentle and very accomodating. Looks: Her boobs were gigantic and the main reason I wanted to see her. So overly oversized and firm / hard. So worth it. She also had well formed buttimplants and her enhanced curves together with her tiny waist was almost unreal. She also had huge filled lips with nice lipstick. Long blonde hair and very nice long nails. Her pussy was 100% hairless, so smooth I suspect she had laser treatments. The way she dressed in sexy outfit, super-high stripper heels (that stayed on) made everything perfect. Such a dream-girl for me. The service was. SUPER good. I had not expected that: she clearly understood that I was super-excited about her enhanced beauty and slowly let me play with all of it in different angles, slowly, touching and looking. Her OWO skills are very great, she used her soft huge lips well and made my cock really wet and slippery. I thank the euro 50 premium for CIM bonus potential for the VERY long and sexy blowjob.
I only lasted 3 minutes in mish but those 3 minutes were lovely. Such a super-great huge boobs blonde barbie fetish session for me. .
I had the pleasure of spending 30 minutes with Jenna aka Nova Nice. With 1550 CC fake boobs she was by far the bustiest girl in the line up during the two days I visited Artemis. I had wanted to meet her for a while so when I saw her sitting in the bar I got sooooo excited and nervous. Such a long time that happened to me mongering. She was super nice and gentle and very accomodating. Looks: Her boobs were gigantic and the main reason I wanted to see her. So overly oversized and firm / hard. So worth it. She also had well formed buttimplants and her enhanced curves together with her tiny waist was almost unreal. She also had huge filled lips with nice lipstick. Long blonde hair and very nice long nails. Her pussy was 100% hairless, so smooth I suspect she had laser treatments. The way she dressed in sexy outfit, super-high stripper heels (that stayed on) made everything perfect. Such a dream-girl for me. The service was. SUPER good. I had not expected that: she clearly understood that I was super-excited about her enhanced beauty and slowly let me play with all of it in different angles, slowly, touching and looking. Her OWO skills are very great, she used her soft huge lips well and made my cock really wet and slippery. I thank the euro 50 premium for CIM bonus potential for the VERY long and sexy blowjob.
I only lasted 3 minutes in mish but those 3 minutes were lovely. Such a super-great huge boobs blonde barbie fetish session for me. .Great to hear Jenna is back, and her looks and service are still good, hopefully I will see her myself again soon.
Has anyone been on these FKK tours I see ads for?
Hessen Bub
11-11-16, 08:45
I had the pleasure of spending 30 minutes with Jenna aka Nova Nice. With 1550 CC fake boobs Just that everybody knows what Wiild is talking about. I guess I don't have to mention she is not quite my type.
HB.
Just that everybody knows what Wiild is talking about. I guess I don't have to mention she is not quite my type.
HB.Do any girls in NRW or Frankfurt 5 have her kind of silicon?
Citizen Kane
11-11-16, 17:56
Do any girls in NRW or Frankfurt 5 have her kind of silicon?No, I think she used all of it.
Has anyone been on these FKK tours I see ads for?No I've never used a tour, even on my first visit many years ago to a German saunaclub, I just did some research, checked the details, found the address, and turned up all on my own, without anyone holding my hand, if you need help in getting laid in Germany, then really you should probably not leave your home country, just my opinion.
No, I think she used all of it.Yes LOL there is a shortage now, not sure why there are no other ladies as large as Jenna, there is a small few escort girls in Germany like Kissie Love.
Hessen Bub
11-11-16, 22:34
Has anyone been on these FKK tours I see ads for?These tours are useless. Just rtff and you'll be all set.
HB.
Nice girls in the FKK never earn less than 1000 euros a day just make the calculation 25 days a month, so easy for them to buy a nice car.Just arrive at the opening, stay all day and night close to girls lockers, to see how work business.
I think only a very few girls make only a few days 1000 , in German brothels. Maybe, they can when work outside. World is often empty, Oase is sometimes empty, At big Sharks, many pretty girls complain about lack of business, I advice 1 to try Globe, because rates are 2,7 higher.
Just arrive at the opening, stay all day and night close to girls lockers, to see how work business.
I think only a very few girls make only a few days 1000 , in German brothels. Maybe, they can when work outside. World is often empty, Oase is sometimes empty, At big Sharks, many pretty girls complain about lack of business, I advice 1 to try Globe, because rates are 2,7 higher.A year ago, when I first time met one of hottest girls (she claimed) at sharks, she told me that I could be her top ten-favorites-clients because I treated her so well. I took the chance to ask her how many customers she had so far then, she gave me the number was 5000 at that time. Considering that She started to work at Shark in about March 2013, it was a very successful business she got 5000 clients in just 32 months working by November 2015.
Let us do the math to estimate how much she made each day. She told me the majority were one-hour session 80%, less than 10% were half-hour session, the rest of were multiple-hour session.
In our many following sessions, she also disclosed other information. Based on those limited information, I assumed that she actually got about 6000 Hours payment. She told me usually worked about 20 days a month, so I easily figured out that she worked 640 days to get 6000 hours pay.
Then the average daily money collection for her would be:
6000 x 100/640 = 937.5 euro.
If she could get 10% tips, plus some extra CIM service. The average daily collection will go to.
- 1100 euro at most.
When working at Shaks.
The net income at most would be 1100-100 = 1000 euro. (In average).
I think she is by far one of the most successful WG among Sharks and FKK business. During her spare time, she accepted escort service. She once told me she would offer me 1500 euros daily rate, for other customers, she would charge 2000 euros.
So I conclude, there are only very few top girls could make more than 1000 a day in average in FKK business.
A year ago, when I first time met one of hottest girls (she claimed) at sharks, she told me that I could be her top ten-favorites-clients because I treated her so well. I took the chance to ask her how many customers she had so far then, she gave me the number was 5000 at that time. Considering that She started to work at Shark in about March 2013, it was a very successful business she got 5000 clients in just 32 months working by November 2015.
Let us do the math to estimate how much she made each day. She told me the majority were one-hour session 80%, less than 10% were half-hour session, the rest of were multiple-hour session.
In our many following sessions, she also disclosed other information. Based on those limited information, I assumed that she actually got about 6000 Hours payment. She told me usually worked about 20 days a month, so I easily figured out that she worked 640 days to get 6000 hours pay..5000 guys? In 3 years wow.
I always imagine some ignorant guy who marry these girls believing they used to work in bar in Germany kind of story LOL.
Nooky Ninja
11-12-16, 23:16
Since Ninja start this week ago, he regrets.
Please continue in Lounge where all monger accuntants and cuntsultants can debate and discuss for hours about their numbers, assumptions, secret interviews, matrix algebra, WTF theories, and explain and calculate.
Here is Artemis thread, to explain and fornicate.
Just arrive at the opening, stay all day and night close to girls lockers, to see how work business.
I think only a very few girls make only a few days 1000 , in German brothels. Maybe, they can when work outside. World is often empty, Oase is sometimes empty, At big Sharks, many pretty girls complain about lack of business, I advice 1 to try Globe, because rates are 2,7 higher.Just like every field the stars make big money. The rest make small money. Taylor Swift makes big money. The rest of the ladies singing in the local bar makes small money.
she gave me the number was 5000 at that time.
She told me the majority were one-hour session 80%, less than 10% were half-hour session, the rest of were multiple-hour session.
Based on those limited information, I assumed that she actually got about 6000 Hours payment...
5000 guys? In 3 years wow.
I always imagine some ignorant guy who marry these girls believing they used to work in bar in Germany kind of story LOL.I believed it didn't mean 5000 different guys. It means 5000 sessions. Some half-hour sessions, most one-hour sessions, some multi-hour sessions.
A year ago, when I first time met one of hottest girls (she claimed) at sharks, she told me that I could be her top ten-favorites-clients because I treated her so well. I took the chance to ask her how many customers she had so far then, she gave me the number was 5000 at that time. Considering that She started to work at Shark in about March 2013, it was a very successful business she got 5000 clients in just 32 months working by November 2015.
Let us do the math to estimate how much she made each day. She told me the majority were one-hour session 80%, less than 10% were half-hour session, the rest of were multiple-hour session.
In our many following sessions, she also disclosed other information. Based on those limited information, I assumed that she actually got about 6000 Hours payment. She told me usually worked about 20 days a month, so I easily figured out that she worked 640 days to get 6000 hours pay.
Then the average daily money collection for her would be:.Even she was not my type of GF behavior in room, for her beauty, I took my time and stayed 1 hour. I met prettier and busier superstars at World on 11th birthday, coming from Bumsalp, or at GT, full busy all days they work. They all told me wanted to make 1000 . It was in 2013 and 2014 , much more difficult to reach now, and Winter will be long.
Just arrive at the opening, stay all day and night close to girls lockers, to see how work business.
I think only a very few girls make only a few days 1000 , in German brothels. Maybe, they can when work outside. World is often empty, Oase is sometimes empty, At big Sharks, many pretty girls complain about lack of business, I advice 1 to try Globe, because rates are 2,7 higher.In Artemis they make over 1000 easy, especially on weekends. Artemis is a money machine and not all girls can get access to work there. Also, on average girls are better looking. What I mean by that is that some of the ugly girls at FRA clubs would never get permission to work at Artemis (maybe in cleaning), so the minimum for looks is set at a higher level. At the same time, for most beautiful girls, I can say that Artemis can be a little lacking on the natural looking girls front. So FRA clubs can have some natural looking girls that are a rare find in Artemis. Also, if girls don't know you in Artemis, you will get tourist service. If you pay for longer sessions, it will improve, but still not at FRA level.
Just like every field the stars make big money. The rest make small money. Taylor Swift makes big money. The rest of the ladies singing in the local bar makes small money.No girl makes less than 500 in Artemis. That is the a shameful minimum for a girl there. Women don't care about guys and don't approach there last week clients a lot, meaning they girls you took last week will not chase you for sessions. They have too much work. Maybe the fat Thai works a little less or the black girls sometimes, but the rest are killing it every night.
Has anyone seen Turkish Shaz lately?
How is the black / SA lineup these days?
Last time I was there (March) I went with Amber (DR), Heather (Mol) and Valesca (DE / Moz). They were all very GFE.
Has anyone seen Turkish Shaz lately?
How is the black / SA lineup these days?
Last time I was there (March) I went with Amber (DR), Heather (Mol) and Valesca (DE / Moz). They were all very GFE.On Saturday Artemis was very crowded and I was told on Friday it was also.
In the LU I saw 3 domenican black girls (I don't know names) and another black who told me some weeks ago she is from Hamburg, I think she is German.
Wow! I was told by a friend to go to Germany and check out the FKK clubs and it seems like this is a must do. He specifically recommended Artemis. For the past 10 or so years my favorite destination has been Rio so I'm looking to see if the FKK clubs can compete with the termas. Anyway, I'm in to black / Latin chicks of all completions with big phat (not fat) asses and white girls with big phat asses. Rap video types. Can anyone shed some light on this type at Artemis? I've seen a few posts that mention "a few black girls" but I don't know what they mean by a few since I've never been. Are we talking 1-2, or 5-10? Just curious. I live in NYC so I don't want to fly over to Berlin and not know what I'm going to see.
Also, if for some reason Artemis doesn't have many of the type I'm looking for are there any other places in Berlin that are recommended? Thanks for the help!
Nooky Ninja
11-21-16, 14:46
Anyway, I'm in to black / Latin chicks of all completions with big phat (not fat) asses and white girls with big phat asses. Rap video types. I live in NYC so I don't want to fly over to Berlin and not know what I'm going to see.Well, everyone know if you want lots of black and latino "rap video" types, blond northern Europe with much of Romania thrown in, is the place.
NOT.
Use brain, save money, buy subway ticket to Queens, Bronx, Harlem. Or go wild in Detroit, Atlanta, or East LA. Support new infuckstructure areas for Trump.
You might try Sky in Wuppertal: http://www.sky-saunaclub.com/.
Totally not my taste, but one of the few clubs with latin girls only, and they offer very good (service"DFK and BBBJ already in the bar, and CIM / CIF included.
More subtle black girls (between 3 and 6) can be found in Babylon (Elsdorf): http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php.
RioDeJaneiro1
11-23-16, 00:35
Hi guys. After 2 years of frankfurt treatment at Oase, Palace and Sharks. I finally decided to try Artemis for 1 reason: sillies. I was really disappointed to see Nika De leave Oase and I was told that before Osde she was at Artemis. Cross fingers. I read about the return of Jenna 1500 CC. Apart from her who seems friendly according to recent posts, do you recommend other girls? Last visit in Frankfurt was a bit dissapointing. Will try Artemis and if a disaster will push to GT in Vienna.
Well, everyone know if you want lots of black and latino "rap video" types, blond northern Europe with much of Romania thrown in, is the place.
NOT.
Use brain, save money, buy subway ticket to Queens, Bronx, Harlem. Or go wild in Detroit, Atlanta, or East LA. Support new infuckstructure areas for Trump.How does this have anything to do with what I asked? I guess you just had nothing better to do. Thanks!
You might try Sky in Wuppertal: http://www.sky-saunaclub.com/.
Totally not my taste, but one of the few clubs with latin girls only, and they offer very good (service"DFK and BBBJ already in the bar, and CIM / CIF included.
More subtle black girls (between 3 and 6) can be found in Babylon (Elsdorf): http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-anwesenheit.php.Thanks for the info!
RyeHumor63
11-24-16, 23:12
I am a frequent visit to Goldentime in Vienna. I have written detailed reports on my visit, and generally spend between E500-700 a visit on 3 girls. My tastes gravitate toward fitter Romanians and Bulgarians (Blondes and Brunettes) who generally (but not always) have silicon and are in their early 20's. If I venture to Berlin in a couple of weeks for a visit to Artemis (or one of the others in Berlin), will I experience similar ladies, better? I have been told by ladies in GT that the venues in Berlin are more modern, and can be more private as well, which is I suppose a plus (though I am not particularly shy) so other than better surroundings, I suppose what I am asking for those who have sampled the delights, on the whole is the quality of the menu better or not.
. Anyway, I'm in to black / Latin chicks of all completions with big phat (not fat) asses and white girls with big phat asses. Rap video types. Can anyone shed some light on this type at Artemis? I've seen a few posts that mention "a few black girls" but I don't know what they mean by a few since I've never been. Are we talking 1-2, or 5-10? 3-4 most days. Either south african or from dominican republic. But there is one hot black girl from venezuela too. Only hot when she is fit though. Her fitness is like a jojo. These black / mulatto girls are all 3-6. 5's. But the venezuelan can reach an 8 on a good day if she works out. But her ass is not the biggest. I don't know though, eastern european girls can look fantastic without ever having stepped into a gym, but black girls just fall apart like a sack of fluff. Sorry for the honesty...
If someone can find me a person who actually believes the girls get checked regularly, and that that testing has much impact... Then I have a piece of land to sell you in Florida. Please get back to me.No idea how regular they are checked, but on my recent trip Vanity had a little plaster on her arm where she'd obviously had blood taken.
Hessen Bub
11-28-16, 17:21
If someone can find me a person who actually believes the girls get checked regularly, and that that testing has much impact... Then I have a piece of land to sell you in Florida. Please get back to me.They do at Artemis. Where's that piece of land?
HB.
Anyone around on Dec 7th or 8th to hang out and give some inside tips for a newbie regarding clubbing in the Artemis?
DethManRulz
11-28-16, 23:54
They do at Artemis. Where's that piece of land?
HB.I've talked to girls at Artemis that said they get tested every two weeks, others that said every month and others that said they aren't on a schedule, but that it's supposed to be every two weeks.
Sounds too loose.
FlyByCable
11-29-16, 15:11
Even if the girls get tested now and then you should always be careful and always use the condoms. 1 person out of 7 that have HIV in Europe doesn't know that they have HIV.
On average, it takes almost four years before HIV infection is diagnosed.
The number of new HIV infections were record numbers in Europe last year. Over 153,400 compared to the 142,000 of 2014.
There are more then 2 million people in Europe living with HIV.
There are a lot of girls in FKK-clubs that offer sex without condoms for an extra 100 euro or so. I have had that offer at Sharks a couple of times. Stupid risk to take.
Even if the girls get tested now and then you should always be careful and always use the condoms. 1 person out of 7 that have HIV in Europe doesn't know that they have HIV.
On average, it takes almost four years before HIV infection is diagnosed.
The number of new HIV infections were record numbers in Europe last year. Over 153,400 compared to the 142,000 of 2014.
There are more then 2 million people in Europe living with HIV.
There are a lot of girls in FKK-clubs that offer sex without condoms for an extra 100 euro or so. I have had that offer at Sharks a couple of times. Stupid risk to take.Did you guys ever hear about FKK girls getting contracted HIV in any of the FKK? I never heard it.
At least there is in house MD in Artemis though. Most clubs do not have that.
Anyways, I never even heard of getting hard STD at FKK clubs as well.
Just using condom could be fine, it will protect you for great extent.
The risk is oral, but it is so low.
DethManRulz
11-30-16, 06:17
Anyways, I never even heard of getting hard STD at FKK clubs as well.
Well, herpes is rampant. (both HSV1 and HSV2) but perhaps nobody cares about that.
Nooky Ninja
11-30-16, 08:28
Well, herpes is rampant. (both HSV1 and HSV2) but perhaps nobody cares about that.Correct.
Please can someone write real report of experience and current line up, house mood vs all these tired, old themes and theories. Or go to lounge. No problem with this there. But here, Artemis thread is sinking in swamp of blah blah blah. Many good writers gone. Hope others speak up.
Correct.
Please can someone write real report of experience and current line up, house mood vs all these tired, old themes and theories. Or go to lounge. No problem with this there. But here, Artemis thread is sinking in swamp of blah blah blah. Many good writers gone. Hope others speak up.Ninja you have to wait for the return of the padawan to get a good report it seems. This thread turned into the disease talk thread, LOL.
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Nooky Ninja
12-01-16, 13:05
Ninja you have to wait for the return of the padawan to get a good report it seems. This thread turned into the disease talk thread, LOL.You may be right. But meanwhile, interested peoples can watch 2 new TV series just out: Space Station Chlamydia 9 and Pestworld, and George Mucous making film: Return of the Herpes. And of course, we live in Germ any. Am afraid to even go outside without full body condom.
But- have 2 friends, highly trained, demanding, professional mongers, they went to A last Friday, said all was good, not too crowded, some nice new girls, food not bad, and they are still alive. Probably still 2 weeks left before girls slowly start leaving for holidays.
ExpatLover
12-01-16, 13:34
Correct.
Please can someone write real report of experience and current line up, house mood vs all these tired, old themes and theories. Or go to lounge. No problem with this there. But here, Artemis thread is sinking in swamp of blah blah blah. Many good writers gone. Hope others speak up.Was there last Friday, really so so club, will not return for sure in the coming months. Girls are average old and are looking like prostitutes, never was having the feeling of fresh, young women like in Shark, Oase or World.
You may be right. But meanwhile, interested peoples can watch 2 new TV series just out: Space Station Chlamydia 9 and Pestworld, and George Mucous making film: Return of the Herpes. And of course, we live in Germ any. Am afraid to even go outside without full body condom.
But- have 2 friends, highly trained, demanding, professional mongers, they went to A last Friday, said all was good, not too crowded, some nice new girls, food not bad, and they are still alive. Probably still 2 weeks left before girls slowly start leaving for holidays.Hahaha. I might visit A again hopefully the prepaid free entries still works even though its been over a yr.
Bc they are ninjas warriors with chi to protect them from diseases, LOL.
Was there last Friday, really so so club, will not return for sure in the coming months. Girls are average old and are looking like prostitutes, never was having the feeling of fresh, young women like in Shark, Oase or World.I visited on Saturday 12 November and Sunday 20 November (either side of passing through Berlin either side a a business trip). On the Saturday it was very crowded, both customers and girls, and the comment about the variety of girls available is true in my opinion. I managed to find Rosali with whom I have been with many times and she gives excellent service. Otherwise might well have left without going with any of the other girls I saw.
The Sunday visit was less crowded but the variety was again very poor and many older and just not attractive girls some of them with poor attitudes, especially when declined. I went with a girl from the Cameroons, enhanced breasts, who name I cannot remember but her service was awful.
Of course, this last encounter could happen anywhere but this club as definitely gone downhill in recent times.
I got to Artemis early, just after 11 am, paid entry at the reception and got changed and showered, in the lounge it was still quiet, got a drink and sat on a sofa, recognised a couple girls, and they passed by to say Hello,.
Evan Half Hour.
Also Evan came in to the lounge, this girl is hot, Romania? Pretty face wears glasses, fit body and nice sized fake boobs, a quick chat to her, and thought it wise to take her to a room, as this lady gets busy later on, so off to the room, Evan can be a little bossy, but I was able to cool her down, she doesn't like her nipples touched, think this is because they are large that some punters will be rough with them like they're trying to tune in Radio Luxembourg, no kissing but a sensual session, didn't rush, OWO was very good, sex in several positions, this girl is stunning, a optikfick, but she does perform well, and doesn't seem to just rely on her looks.
Got a shower and a drink back in the lounge, few more girls had appeared from upstairs, said Hello, to Kiki ans Mya, as I was sat in the lounge in came my new punting friend, this was his first time at a FKK club, think he was enjoying it and taking it all in, so we had a drink and I filled him in on the place, and the girls, I noticed my No:1 fan Virginia in the lounge, she has dyed her hair brunette, didn't quite recognise her at first.
We got some lunch in the restaurant, then I gave him the guided tour of the club, spent some more time down in the lounge, I think my friend had gone off and found a lady, as I walked back into the lounge I noticed Jenna stood by the entrance, she was looking hot as ever, had a short chat to her, she wasn't free, waiting for a customer, so said hopefully see her later, it got to about 5 pm, I hadn't yet checked into my hotel, so got dressed and as I went to reception bumped into Suna on the stairs, this young lady is Thai, but has lived in Germany most of her life, and she's very pretty, like a little Asian doll, I'd talked to her in the past, but never taken her to a room, had a quick chat, told her I'd be back later, and informed reception I'd return, you write your name and locker number on a piece of paper, so you don't need to pay entry again, my hotel was nearby and was back in Artemis in half hour.
Back in the lounge, had a drink and caught up with my friend, he'd made a new buddy a Emirati guy, he has visited Artemis many times, we got a drink, I bumped into Virginia as we went to take a seat, and I just said I hadn't recognised her at first, and complimented her new hair, she said thank you, so I'm slowly thawing out this ice queen. Me and the guys had a chat, and scoping out new girls, then went and got some dinner, which wasn't bad, afterwards let my dinner digest and took a seat in the lounge. Noticed Jenna was still with the same guy sat in the lounge, some guys seem to book her for several hours to spend time with, she is a nice lady, but if the meter is running at 2 a minute I don't see the point myself, and it a bit annoying for other guys like me who want to take Jenna to a room.
Suna Half Hour.
Suna who I'd spoke to earlier was in the lounge, she is obviously one of the popular girls in the club, as she gets busy, she spotted me and took no time at all to decide to take her upstairs, had a great 30 minutes with Suna, didn't kiss but this isn't a big deal for me, OWO was very good, her body is great, I let Suna suck me off for some time, then had sex in cowgirl, doggy and mish to finish, Suna is very interactive, and gets into the session, or is a good actress, a very good looker who perform well and seems a nice person, would have to see her again.
The rest of the night I took time out down in the sauna, or back in the lounge looking out for another lady, I seem to have become more fussy over time, couldn't decide who next, Jenna had disappeared and there was a lack of barbie type ladies, so had another sauna and rest downstairs.
Ella Half Hour.
This blonde Russian MILF I'd seen before, nice petite body, this was a mistake taking her again, but I wanted to give her a second chance, previously she tried cutting me on time by 10 minutes, and surprise surprise exactly the same thing happened again, she is good in the room, OWO was well done, but she tried to rush quickly to sex, which I stopped her doing, after I've cum a couple of times it usually takes me a while to cum again, Ella obviously is used to guys shooting quickly, so she tried cutting my time, but I told her I know what time we entered the room, I mean if we're paying for a half hour and it takes that time then ladies should take it on the chin not try to rip off guys, on the other hand there is times when I shoot before times up, and I don't make a point to stay until my times done, think some ladies mentality is it's only 60 basic service.
By this time it was late, I was sat at the bar talking to Vanity and her friend Akira or was it Kira? Another Thai-German girl, very pretty has a few tattoos, I wasn't bothered about another session, and Akira said she had clocked off, so had a chat and a drink, then went home about 3 am.
Saturday 19th.
Got to Artemis early, about 11:30, same procedure as usual, paid reception and got changed, the lounge was fairly quiet as usual this early in the day, I got a coffee and took a seat, a couple of girls tried to tempt me, but I didn't bite, had a sauna downstairs in the wellness, and got a drink.
Jenna 1 Hour.
So I'd noticed Jenna down in the lounge earlier, as I walked back in she was sat at the end of the bar with a couple of other ladies, so went straight over, had a chat, and asked if she was free, she was free, so we took a seat in the sofa nearby for a chat, had been nearly a year since I had last seen her, the year has flown by, she had had a bad year, she'd gone for another bigger boob op, but had had problems and a infection after surgery, Jenna is back up to 1575 CC implants after a long absence from Artemis. She is back to her huge titted barbie doll look, her boobs sitting in a quarter cup bra for support, sticking out like two scud missiles! So after a quick catch up we went upstairs to a room, still early so no waiting, I had a excellent hour with Jenna, DFK, OWO, 69, she didn't mind me touching her boobs, they feel amazing, sex was good as usual, in several positions, only minor issue is she cut our time short by about 10 minutes, was taking me a while to cum, so she probably had enough.
Took my time chilling out in the club, using the wellness area, having a sauna, and a jacuzzi outside, I hadn't had much sleep, so took a sleep down by the pool for a hour, which did me some good, refreshed and ready for the night ahead. Had some dinner and sat in the lounge to see what talent was about, a good selection of ladies, made a few mental notes, and had a few try to tempt me to a room.
Suna Half Hour.
After a bit of a chill in the lounge I fancied another session, I couldn't decide, then I noticed Suna was doing a walk of the lounge, she is one girl who is fairly busy, hadn't seen her for a few hours, and had a good time with her the previous day, so grabbed her hand and took her to a room, had a 5 minutes wait for a room, so wasn't to bad, In the room Suna was a nice sweet girl, a very good session, prolonged oral and no rushing, and good and enthusiastic sex, Suna is a little submissive and seemed to get into being controlled, this young lady is great, very pretty like a doll, and a proficient service.
Had a sauna and a rest by the pool, took a wander about, several ladies wanted to go room, I seem to become fairly fussy, was looking for a barbie type saw Jenna again back by the lounge entrance, asked if she was free, but she was waiting for her next customer, never mind, but I was after another barbie type, saw Brigitta walking the lounge, had a chat to her, we have history, I've sessioned with her a few months ago, where she'd cut me on my time, yes I probably should of missed her, but I wanted a fake boobed blonde, well Brigitta wasn't having it, she reminded me that we hadn't got on before, yes I had been firm but fair when she tried to cut my time, but I'm not a guy who goes out to be rude or agressive to the ladies, but Brigitta said I told her she was ugly and a bad person, I was like WTF! No idea where she got that recollection from, there would be no point me being that nasty, as it would achieve nothing, just hope I don't get labelled as a bad guy, as we know the ladies talk, and if Brigitta has the hump with me she could try to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on my bonfire.
Well time was getting on, had taken a seat by the bar, and was talking to Vanity and Akira, they seemed to of called it a night, and were sharing a 300 bottle of champagne, so business must of been good, so was looking for one last session, as usual I couldn't decide.
Cecille Half Hour.
This young and pretty barbie blonde Romanian I'd spoken to previously in the club, nice tanned and slim figure, and a decent medium pair of fake boobs, took her to a room, she was good, OWO was rather well done, I had to slow her down a little, but that isn't to much bother, sex was good, she was athletic and took a pounding, did cowgirl, doggy, and then on to mish, pulled out and cum in condom.
Cecille wasn't amazing, but not bad either, a very pretty young ROM girl, did just enough.
So by this time I was ready to leave, had a early flight from Schnefeld, so got dressed and out the door by 03:30, a shame I didn't see Priscilla working that weekend, will look out for her next visit.
Hessen Bub
12-02-16, 07:40
Thanks for the detailed report.
HB.
Nooky Ninja
12-02-16, 08:35
Thanks for the detailed report.HB.Yes. Also to DFuk. At least finally real reports.
Only to remember: Sunday always weak day, best IMHO Thurs-Fri pm. Not so crowded with weekend wankers but still full strength. Sun good for chill factor but you must have favorites there-often not after 2 busy nights.
Member #4469
12-06-16, 02:53
Had a short visit in Berlin and Artemis, arrived Sunday 5. 30 pm fairly good number of girls but imo the lineup was weak even for being a Sunday. Anyway as always there are a few ladies that catches your eye. First up was one of my favorite girls of lately, Kisha (Bra / Ger) she is a girl with brown extremely curly hair with an fitness trained body with enhanced tits, late 20's. I remember when I met her the first time then she was a little cold and had a hard time feeling relaxed, but now we have the best time together with lots of DFK and GFE with a very memorable BBBJ. Treat her right and you will be rewarded! Highly recommended!
Second girl Rebecca don't remember where she's from, she is slim with natural c-cup and a beautiful face, mid 20's. We have a good connection but she unfortunately was sore at her clit, so only suck and fuck this time but still very good. Recommended!
Third session Vanity, slim black girl from Hamburg mid 20's with large natural tits with a very beautiful face, she doesn't kiss at least not with me but she has a bubbly personality that weighs up for that, had her coming hard in DATY before sex in multiple positions. Recommended!
Monday, arrived as early as 1 pm met Valentina (Col) after breakfast she is a very passionate girl with lots of kissing and caressing and she even performs a very good massage after sex including standing on you and sliding all over you!! So weird but actually very good! She tries to up sell anal and CIM but not in a disturbing way I actually believes that she loves analsex but I am not so keen to pay 100 extra for that so I started to anal-fingering her and she reacted with some serious moaning. She is a fun girl to have sex with! Highly recommended!
Had another session with Kisha later on the afternoon, a perfect end before I had to leave for my flight at Tegel Airport. Next week Spain, Malaga.
Niislelhuu
12-06-16, 09:19
Just wondering, if I took a lady for a hour, is it covers multi shot or just for cum once?
Nooky Ninja
12-06-16, 10:40
Had a short visit in Berlin and Artemis, arrived Sunday 5. 30 pm fairly good number of girls but imo the lineup was weak even for being a Sunday. Anyway as always there are a few ladies that catches your eye.Nice report, thanks.
Member #4469
12-06-16, 20:53
Just wondering, if I took a lady for a hour, is it covers multi shot or just for cum once?You can come several times, but just to be sure tell the girl before you go to the room.
Third session Vanity, slim black girl from Hamburg mid 20's with large natural tits with a very beautiful face, she doesn't kiss at least not with me but she has a bubbly personality that weighs up for that, had her coming hard in DATY before sex in multiple positions. Recommended!
Monday, arrived as early as 1 pm met Valentina (Col) after breakfast she is a very passionate girl with lots of kissing and caressing and she even performs a very good massage after sex including standing on you and sliding all over you!! So weird but actually very good! She tries to up sell anal and CIM but not in a disturbing way I actually believes that she loves analsex but I am not so keen to pay 100 extra for that so I started to anal-fingering her and she reacted with some serious moaning. She is a fun girl to have sex with! Highly recommended!
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Nice Report, thanks.
Some months ago I sessioned with Vanity. She didn,t accepted kisses and FIV which then cooled me down a bit. After your report I think I will try her again because I love her tits a lot and if she accepts DATY its okay. I wasn,t sure about that so I never more sessioned with her.
A question to Valentina? Is she a girl with curly hair? I remember I spoke with a colombian girl with curly hair but never tried a session.
Member #4469
12-07-16, 00:26
A question to Valentina? Is she a girl with curly hair? I remember I spoke with a colombian girl with curly hair but never tried a session.Yes you are correct! Dark curly hair, about 1,60 without heels.
3/12/16 short visit.
Small report was my first visit to any type of club and what a visit.
We arrived around 8. 30 and stayed for a paltry 2 hours (would have stayed longer but was part of a group).
I suppose you guys are well versed but for a first timer it was a real eye opener.
I had my first punt as well but nervousness took over.
She was Romanian very petite I'd say mid twenties but sadly in my nervous state I didn't listen to a word she said including her name.
Did a few positions but it was over quicker than usual for me.
+ points wealth of hot girls to talk to.
- points no girls downstairs in the pool area where there was less smoke.
10 for a cheap beer.
KenzoTange
12-20-16, 08:58
Hello,
I may be in Berlin at the end of December and wanted to know what the average rate is for 30 min / 1 HR at Artemis.
Also, does anyone think the lineup will be okay given the holidays? Or is it better to wait until after New Years? And are weekends better than weekdays?
Thank you!
Hello,
I may be in Berlin at the end of December and wanted to know what the average rate is for 30 min / 1 HR at Artemis.
Also, does anyone think the lineup will be okay given the holidays? Or is it better to wait until after New Years? And are weekends better than weekdays?
Thank you!Same as it's always been 60/120, yes probably better to wait till the new year, but remember the Orthodox New Year is 14th Jan.
KenzoTange
12-21-16, 14:29
Same as it's always been 60/120, yes probably better to wait till the new year, but remember the Orthodox New Year is 14th Jan.Thank you Jerboa. What is the consequence of the Orthodox New Year? Will all the lovely religious girls will be on vacation until 14th Jan?
PussyLiccker
12-22-16, 02:08
I managed to find Rosali with whom I have been with many times and she gives excellent service. Otherwise might well have left without going with any of the other girls I saw.
Ah. Rosalie, De from Hamburg? Young, 21 (maybe 22 now), blond, cute face, slim top, thick lower body, legs. I had a good feeling about her, didn't try. I think she should have been a choice looking back at my sessions.
SuppenHuhn
12-22-16, 08:10
Rosaly is not a German girl. She has black hair and is a little bit older. She comes from Greece if it's correct.
Thank you Jerboa. What is the consequence of the Orthodox New Year? Will all the lovely religious girls will be on vacation until 14th Jan?Well Romania being mostly Orthodox, some of the girls may well be back home till the 14th, Artemis isn't majority Rom, so shouldn't cause a problem, just fewer girls.
Is there a normal FKK near (2 hrs drive) Berlin open on Saturday the 24?
Atmos in Hamburg is open, but very small.
Leipzig is open, but similar issue.
Is there a normal FKK near (2 hrs drive) Berlin open on Saturday the 24?
Atmos in Hamburg is open, but very small.
Leipzig is open, but similar issue.Harmony South Hamburg for top GFE brunette Nicole. Ro. Usually happy early hour. Nicole starts at 2 pm.
Harmony South Hamburg for top GFE brunette Nicole. Ro. Usually happy early hour. Nicole starts at 2 pm.Thanks, Siri! But, there website notes that they closed on 24-5-6/12.
Clubs in this area are not open mostly. Atmos is open, but super small. Leipzig not sure because when I called the super unfriendly receptionist didn't speak English.
Maybe I will prepone for today and do Artemis, but as a last resort.
Thanks, Siri! But, there website notes that they closed on 24-5-6/12.
Clubs in this area are not open mostly. Atmos is open, but super small. Leipzig not sure because when I called the super unfriendly receptionist didn't speak English.
Maybe I will prepone for today and do Artemis, but as a last resort.Harmony was opened on 30 and 31 last year. If You go close to Hamburg, call for Nicole who starts at 2 pm, if You liked Madi, you will like Nicole. She won t work on 31.
Delta Indigo
12-24-16, 01:12
I was at Artemis today and yesterday. I used to have much better times here, the girls were very sharky, awful service on the most part. A lot of girls are gone on holiday and maybe the sharks remain. What I want to ask everyone is if service is better at Palace Frankfurt or Artemis, where people have tried both?
Harmony was opened on 30 and 31 last year. If You go close to Hamburg, call for Nicole who starts at 2 pm, if You liked Madi, you will like Nicole. She won t work on 31.Oooo a Madi substitute.
So 31 not, but 30 yes?
Oooo a Madi substitute.
So 31 not, but 30 yes?Nicole is not Madi. For 4 years, only Kate could compete for class, when not on public sex. Nicole is a real sweet candy from Romania. Discovered her on 30 December last year, with 2 rooms, repeated twice on July. Call Harmony on 29. Happy early hours, I think 40 or 45, and Nicole starts about 2 pm.
Atmos casting seem also attractive. Tyra. De is ex Bumsalp. Ch. To discover Mandy. De.
I was at Artemis today and yesterday. I used to have much better times here, the girls were very sharky, awful service on the most part. A lot of girls are gone on holiday and maybe the sharks remain. What I want to ask everyone is if service is better at Palace Frankfurt or Artemis, where people have tried both?I think you've just been unlucky because of the holiday break. I've been in both clubs in the past few months and whilst I don't think Palace is as bad is the press it gets, Artemis service is nearly always better for me.
Do you guys know if the Jacuzzi outside is open now? I called and they said yes, but honestly I wasn't sure if the receptionist understood the question and they misinformed me on the phone some time ago.
And second question, have you seen Avril lately?
Thanks!
Do you guys know if the Jacuzzi outside is open now?Jacuzzi outside is closed.
And second question, have you seen Avril lately?Didn't encounter Avril since the beginning of December. IMHO she's on vacation now.
RobertWilliams
12-28-16, 20:19
Hey guys,
I was last week in Artemis. It was pretty good. My question is, is Evan the girl with black glasses, thin body, beautiful place? She said that she's from Romania. I think that she's pretty busy there.
I was at Artimas on Monday December 19- night of Christmas Market attack. And was with a Romanian girl and I can't remember her name after 2 hour long sessions. Anyway, she is tall and thin with a swimmer or dancers body. Fake breasts, but under the muscle and don't look like bolt on orbs, and fit her body well. Tattoo on her hip and two piercings on her stomach. She has an angular face and deep eyes similar to a young Sophia Loren. Brown wavy hair with blond streaks that fell below her shoulders, but not super long. Very sweet girl and not a hustler at all.
Any help appreciated as I would like to return and see her again.
I was at Artimas on Monday December 19- night of Christmas Market attack. And was with a Romanian girl and I can't remember her name after 2 hour long sessions. Anyway, she is tall and thin with a swimmer or dancers body. Fake breasts, but under the muscle and don't look like bolt on orbs, and fit her body well. Tattoo on her hip and two piercings on her stomach. She has an angular face and deep eyes similar to a young Sophia Loren. Brown wavy hair with blond streaks that fell below her shoulders, but not super long. Very sweet girl and not a hustler at all.
Any help appreciated as I would like to return and see her again.I fully emphasize with not remembering a woman's name. Very unpractical trait to have, both in this hobby and in the normal life. Unfortunately the description you gave fits 10+ different women in Artemis.
What kind of tattoo are we talking about (not having tattoos would be more remarkable in this place)? Age? Where does she sit in the bar (many girls have "their" spots). ? Do you remember her friends?
On the bright side: even if you don't remember her name. It does not matter, you will meet her next time in Artemis and can ask her about it then (I guess you will remember her from the looks).
Nooky Ninja
01-04-17, 16:31
I fully emphasize with not remembering a woman's name. An unpresidented admission.
I was at Artimas on Monday December 19- night of Christmas Market attack. And was with a Romanian girl and I can't remember her name after 2 hour long sessions. Anyway, she is tall and thin with a swimmer or dancers body. Fake breasts, but under the muscle and don't look like bolt on orbs, and fit her body well. Tattoo on her hip and two piercings on her stomach. She has an angular face and deep eyes similar to a young Sophia Loren. Brown wavy hair with blond streaks that fell below her shoulders, but not super long. Very sweet girl and not a hustler at all.
Any help appreciated as I would like to return and see her again.Yep, you definitely need to add details. As it is you match too many; Sylvia is Romanian (I don't recall tattoos), but the description is also a little bit of Megan who is German. The Sophia Loren description fits a skinny tall girl with no blond highlights. Black hair blue eyes, very skinny, tall, and she is very cool looking. Sometimes wears glasses for the chick. I only know her real name. Club name is something short like shy or jean.
Give more details.
I fully emphasize with not remembering a woman's name. Very unpractical trait to have, both in this hobby and in the normal life. Unfortunately the description you gave fits 10+ different women in Artemis.
What kind of tattoo are we talking about (not having tattoos would be more remarkable in this place)? Age? Where does she sit in the bar (many girls have "their" spots). ? Do you remember her friends?
On the bright side: even if you don't remember her name. It does not matter, you will meet her next time in Artemis and can ask her about it then (I guess you will remember her from the looks).I know. She was late 20's.
She hangs out in the lounge at the end of the bar before you get to that section with the stripper pole. On one of the chairs with her feet up.
Don't recall the details of the tattoo, but it was on her hip and pretty discreet.
She has 2 piercings on her belly. They are both the dumbbell type like you see in people's eyebrows, but with a longer stud (distance between two ends). One had reddish ends and was new.
I remember her saying her name was Keisha or something with a K, but later we were going by her Romanian name starting with a be.
I was a little drunk.
What I want to ask everyone is if service is better at Palace Frankfurt or Artemis, where people have tried both?70% dependant on the girl. Maybe 30% dependant on the club atmosphere / rules. With some girls more, with some girls less.
I was at Artemis today and yesterday. I used to have much better times here, the girls were very sharky, awful service on the most part. A lot of girls are gone on holiday and maybe the sharks remain. What I want to ask everyone is if service is better at Palace Frankfurt or Artemis, where people have tried both?In my book, Palace is merely banned. Artemis is so banned. Both are shark infested waters where the sharks eat other sharks. But, at least at Artemis, they just overcharge. Palace overcharges and tells you what a favor they're doing you taking their money. I'd like to think I'm experienced with FKKs, been going to them over 20 years. The hustling has just gotten too over the top.
When in DE, Golden Time / Bernd's / Finca Erotica / Sharks / Mainhattan work for me. Tried it once, it's great for budget punters who like uncovered sex with average to average + looking women, but left w / o a session. Couldn't get it up, condom, no condom for that lineup.
Also, World and Oase seem to be in decline. Sad to hear especially about Oase. This biz can become too much a pimpathon at times.
Sylvia is Romanian (I don't recall tattoos), but the description is also a little bit of Megan who is German.Neither Sylvia nor Megan.
I remember her saying her name was Keisha or something with a K, but later we were going by her Romanian name starting with a be.And it's not Kisha.
Also, World and Oase seem to be in decline. Sad to hear especially about Oase. This biz can become too much a pimpathon at times.Your information channels are probably broke. You need to hire a technician. Oase is now better than any time previously (at least since 2013). Maybe lineup is better in the summer last year than winter right now since it is a club that shines with the sun. But food has improved, girls are allowed to do more, and they even have an insurance in place (rumor). Even a few girls have returned who I didn't think would. And still some new ones come. This fall I was about to start preferring Sharks over Oase for a few months, but in December after the changes Oase was the equal again.
Your information channels are probably broke. You need to hire a technician. Oase is now better than any time previously (at least since 2013). Maybe lineup is better in the summer last year than winter right now since it is a club that shines with the sun. But food has improved, girls are allowed to do more, and they even have an insurance in place (rumor). Even a few girls have returned who I didn't think would. And still some new ones come. This fall I was about to start preferring Sharks over Oase for a few months, but in December after the changes Oase was the equal again.In early December Line up of Artemis was really terrible, a lot of fat, older girls. It was worst line up I have seen in past 7 years. It was before Christmas departure began as it was first week of December, so it is true that the line up of Artemis is really bad now.
Artemis has to kick out those fat, older girls who has been there for years. Replace with more younger girls.
Artemis now is like any low end brothel with full of older fat girls. So sad.
Nooky Ninja
01-12-17, 14:59
In early December Line up of Artemis was really terrible, a lot of fat, older girls. Artemis has to kick out those fat, older girls who has been there for years. Replace with more younger girls. Artemis now is like any low end brothel with full of older fat girls. So sad.Have only 1 question:
Do you think Artemis has too many fat, older girls?
Every time you go there, you say this. Then you go back.
Einstein (alleged) or Benjamin Franklin definition of insanity: https://www.quora.com/Did-Einstein-really-define-insanity-as-doing-the-same-thing-over-and-over-again-and-expecting-different-results.
PussyLiccker
01-15-17, 00:25
In my book, Palace is merely banned. Artemis is so banned. Both are shark infested waters where the sharks eat other sharks. But, at least at Artemis, they just overcharge. Palace overcharges and tells you what a favor they're doing you taking their money. I'd like to think I'm experienced with FKKs, been going to them over 20 years. The hustling has just gotten too over the top.
When in DE, Golden Time / Bernd's / Finca Erotica / Sharks / Mainhattan work for me. Tried it once, it's great for budget punters who like uncovered sex with average to average + looking women, but left w / o a session. Couldn't get it up, condom, no condom for that lineup.
Also, World and Oase seem to be in decline. Sad to hear especially about Oase. This biz can become too much a pimpathon at times.My outlook is pretty similar as yours although Bernds is not on my list of clubs for location and the LU don't work for me. LR has a better place in my roster now than in the past as times change, clubs change.
I would give Artemis more shots if the LU was really good or if it wasn't a sharky club. Unfortunately location doesn't work so it's pretty much out to take look unless I have many more days to spare to take a look ever so often if I'm curious enough. Oase has been in decline since 2014.
Relatively speaking, World would probably be not worth visiting back in the days, but given the upselling levels in Hessen is on the rise, World is still not as bad as the others.
It seems to me all around 2014 onwards is when the downward spiral in De really occurred.
Mr Ho, there are many club in De, I don't see why you'the keep visiting the old Art over and over again if the LU is not to the liking. Also, Austria.
ExpatLover
01-15-17, 06:20
My outlook is pretty similar as yours although Bernds is not on my list of clubs for location and the LU don't work for me. LR has a better place in my roster now than in the past as times change, clubs change.
I would give Artemis more shots if the LU was really good or if it wasn't a sharky club. Unfortunately location doesn't work so it's pretty much out to take look unless I have many more days to spare to take a look ever so often if I'm curious enough. Oase has been in decline since 2014.
Relatively speaking, World would probably be not worth visiting back in the days, but given the upselling levels in Hessen is on the rise, World is still not as bad as the others.
It seems to me all around 2014 onwards is when the downward spiral in De really occurred.
Mr Ho, there are many club in De, I don't see why you'the keep visiting the old Art over and over again if the LU is not to the liking. Also, Austria.Visited World several times in the last days, LU is poor to average mostly no new girl, always the same one for many years, also quite empty during day time few men and many bored girls, very few are smiling. I know the weather is not good, we are beginning of the year but nevertheless when I go to a FKK it is also to be in a positive atmosphere, let see what the coming weeks will bring.
My outlook is pretty similar as yours although Bernds is not on my list of clubs for location and the LU don't work for me. LR has a better place in my roster now than in the past as times change, clubs change.
I would give Artemis more shots if the LU was really good or if it wasn't a sharky club. Unfortunately location doesn't work so it's pretty much out to take look unless I have many more days to spare to take a look ever so often if I'm curious enough. Oase has been in decline since 2014.
Relatively speaking, World would probably be not worth visiting back in the days, but given the upselling levels in Hessen is on the rise, World is still not as bad as the others.
It seems to me all around 2014 onwards is when the downward spiral in De really occurred.
Mr Ho, there are many club in De, I don't see why you'the keep visiting the old Art over and over again if the LU is not to the liking. Also, Austria.Yeah due to laziness and convenience really.
But Frankfurt was disappointing too.
Hmmm. NRW or Hamburg?
But Frankfurt was disappointing too.
Does that mean you did not get to meet up with Kylie at Palace during your December visit?
PL: I don't see how you mean Oase has been on a downward spiral since 2014.2014 was when they tried out that pay for eat stunt there. Now that was a complete disaster for the club and made them loose lots of regulars to sharks. And maybe one or two top girls I miss from 2013-2014, but especially late 15 and 2016 had a much better lineup in average looks at Oase for me. Only russian natasha (or natalia) that I miss from back then.
Artemis on the other hand has too many missing girls. And I could agree much more that Artemis started going down in 2014. Step by step. And with lots of girls missing, and not as many top replacements.
Sharks has been up and now (it seems to me) on a downturn again. Palace was on a downturn, but I really enjoyed my last visit there with what I would call a strong lineup. Oceans has made me realize the nrw area is the place to go for new top recruits these days. And from talking to the girls, many high performers seems to have worked at clubs in austria and/or switzerland... So perhaps there is a fkk shaolin training groung somewhere high up there in the mountains. Like a Shangri-la for female pandas...
But mentioning such in here may somehow just turn out to highly increase the amount of girls claiming to have worked at places like gt vienna, globe, villach, lugano etc etc... lol
My outlook is pretty similar as yours although Bernds is not on my list of clubs for location and the LU don't work for me. LR has a better place in my roster now than in the past as times change, clubs change.
I would give Artemis more shots if the LU was really good or if it wasn't a sharky club. Unfortunately location doesn't work so it's pretty much out to take look unless I have many more days to spare to take a look ever so often if I'm curious enough. Oase has been in decline since 2014.
Relatively speaking, World would probably be not worth visiting back in the days, but given the upselling levels in Hessen is on the rise, World is still not as bad as the others.
It seems to me all around 2014 onwards is when the downward spiral in De really occurred.
Mr Ho, there are many club in De, I don't see why you'the keep visiting the old Art over and over again if the LU is not to the liking. Also, Austria.Mr Pussylicker,
I just booked flight to NRW for February LOL.
Please come to lounge and chat or FKK ocean thread, as I need some tips, we only get to live once so we got to fuck as much as we can while we can LOL.
NRW here I come with cialis LOL.
PussyLiccker
01-16-17, 06:42
many high performers seems to have worked at clubs in austria and/or switzerland... So perhaps there is a fkk shaolin training groung somewhere high up there in the mountains. Like a Shangri-la for female pandas...
Haha. This is a quality. Maybe you should go to the source. The Shangi-la.
Haha. This is a quality. Maybe you should go to the source. The Shangi-la.Maybe, but I believe the girls are hiding the truths of its real location. And these clubs in switzerland and Austria are merely the closest us mortal males get. As it cannot possibly be a Shangri-la for us with those high expenses. LOL.
FlyByCable
01-17-17, 09:07
Has anyone more than me seen the review written by pseudonym Gregory Chandler when searching FKK Artemis at Google?
Wow, this man must be really pissed off at the Artemis or maybe he is suffering by a mental illness? His review has been picked away from Google several times but he keep writing the same word over and over again.
Is it really that bad at the Artemis, I have visited the club about 40 times in the past years. I have never seen this criminality he speaks about.
I hope it's okay to put his review out here.
WARNING!! ARTEMIS AND ARTEMIS' CUSTOMERS ARE TARGETED FOR MURDEROUS BOMBINGS BY ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.
My research shows that Artemis is a dangerous place with lots of criminal activity. The Berlin, Germany police raided Artemis in April 2016. The news reports are that the massive April 2016 raid had about 1,000 police officers. (Internet search: Artemis-Berlin April 2016 police raid) If you want to avoid run-ins with the police, stay away. People have been robbed at Artemis. Shootings and stabbings have taken place at Artemis. The Artemis staff and women are rude. I am told that the staff and women at Artemis are intentionally rude. I am told that a customer, with good manners, should still expect rude conduct from the Artemis staff and women. The comments below also inform about rude service or no service at Artemis. If you are a tourist, rude service should be expected at Artemis. There is the illegal sex trafficking of women at Artemis. The sex trafficking aspect of the business may explain the rudeness of the women. The women are, perhaps, rude because they are forced to work at a horrible place against their will. The reports are that many women have quit working at Artemis because the managers have forced women to have unpaid and unprotected sex with the owners and managers. The Berlin Hell's Angels motorcycle gang is active in the criminal affairs of Artemis. Among other matters, the police were investigating a murder with an alleged Artemis and Hell Angels connection. The women working at Artemis cheat men out of money. The managers are lazy, stupid, incompetent, and have no control over the staff and women. Some of these managers were jailed by the Berlin police in April 2016. I note the comment below by Remy Martin: "I hope this club shuts down and the owner gets cancer. " WOW! That must be the world's worst review of a bad business. I must agree with the comment below by Abdullah Alharthi that Artemis is a bad and dangerous place. The business should be given less than ZERO STARS. STAY AWAY.
UPDATE TO ORIGINAL REVIEW.
Earlier, a fake posting was done, on behalf of Artemis, about my review. The fake posting was removed recently.
I, however, continue to research Artemis. On January 12,2017, a poster named Mr. Ho stated, on the International Sex Guide, that: Artemis now is like any low end brothel and is full of older fat girls.
Based on Mr. Ho's comments, Artemis continues to fall in quality after the April 2016 raid by the Berlin police. In addition, Artemis is negligent about the number of prostitutes working at Artemis with AIDS / HIV. Given the number of ugly and diseased prostitutes working at Artemis, the business will continue to suffer.
My extensive research shows that the Berlin police have carried protesters away from the Artemis premises. People have protested Artemis' sexual abuse of women. (Internet search: Artemis-Berlin-Femen) Police have also carried drug dealers and other criminals away from Artemis. During the April 2016 raid, the police carried Artemis' managers away from the business.
Artemis is a dangerous place. If one decides to visit Artemis, one should travel there with weapons to defend oneself against unprovoked attacks and stealth assaults.
My interviews also inform that Islamic terror groups have targeted Artemis for bombings that will result in the destruction of Artemis and the murder of persons at Artemis. Many Muslims in Germany have suffered unprovoked attacks by motorcycle gangs. (Internet search: German motorcycle gangs attack Muslims) These Muslims are angry that Artemis engages in criminal activity with motorcycle gangs.
I will report my findings to the USA government. I will recommend that the US government issue a travel advisory informing US citizens to stay away from Artemis because of criminal activity, [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), and Islamic terrorism. I will also recommend that the US government ban US military personnel and federal government employees from going to Artemis.
Wow!
In his next review I guess he will write that all the girls are aliens from an other planet who will eat your blood.
lI love how he uses Mr. Ho as a credible witness on the type of ladies found there. LOL. There are fortunately less older fat ladies there now. It seemed to just be a few that got in right after the raid last April.
So basically according to him, anything we write in here can get used as arguments for the US government to ban government employees from visiting Artemis.
ALL this above can lead to not able to cum in pussy problem as your penis get too used to all the above stimulation. So you can almost only cum with your hand. , so I begin to treat myself with limiting wanking time, I just do once or maximum two times a day, but I try to limit my self to one time wanking per day.
And now I bought good masturbation rubber hole and I do not use hand to wank. I also stroke slowly to do so.
Now my problem got fixed and I will see how I will perform in 2016 in German FKK I hope I am back with vengeance and able to do 7 girls in one day LOL oh I look back and smile at those time when I was in my late 20's.
So be-careful how you wank guys and enjoy FKK for those who will still go in remaining 2 more weeks of 2015 !The solution is simple mate. If you want to be able to cum easily with girls, then give up wanking entirely, go cold turkey. Or at least cut back to a very low frequency, e. G. Two per week, only allow very soft touch and slow motion, and set a time limit. Do not wank at all for at least 1 week before FKK visits, better 2 weeks.
I am not joking, completely serious. With regular FKK visits or regular opportunity to play up with girls, I was able to give up wanking completely for a decent period of time. I know it is really tough if you are not getting any for several weeks in a row.
The solution is simple mate. If you want to be able to cum easily with girls, then give up wanking entirely, go cold turkey. Or at least cut back to a very low frequency, e. G. Two per week, only allow very soft touch and slow motion, and set a time limit. Do not wank at all for at least 1 week before FKK visits, better 2 weeks.
I am not joking, completely serious. With regular FKK visits or regular opportunity to play up with girls, I was able to give up wanking completely for a decent period of time. I know it is really tough if you are not getting any for several weeks in a row.Yeah, but I cannot for two weeks, but I will try to stop wanking one week prior to FKK visit.
Nooky Ninja
01-20-17, 09:42
The solution is simple mate. If you want to be able to cum easily with girls, then give up wanking entirely, go cold turkey.S. you are very senior member. In 2017, you respond to 2015 comment about secrets how to cum better, in Artemis thread. W T F? This on top of other posts about whackos.
It is official. Thread is dead. So sad. Sayonara.
Well 2 full years of no sex or no wanking should do the trick on getting it hard. Now the bigger question would be if you manage to keep it hard for long enough to make the girl orgasm also, or just pop prematurely.
Well 2 full years of no sex or no wanking should do the trick on getting it hard. Now the bigger question would be if you manage to keep it hard for long enough to make the girl orgasm also, or just pop prematurely.It's good for your physical (and mental) health to "nut" on a regular basis. It's like anything else. If you don't use the equipment, it's going to rust and stop working! So, I try to nut at least every other day. If I go too long, that next nut actually might not feel so comfortable. So, keep the equipment oiled and pumping my lads! Hahaha!
Member #4469
01-20-17, 18:17
Does anybody know if Akira (Thai) and Aileen (Tur / Ger) is around?!
Does anybody know if Akira (Thai) and Aileen (Tur / Ger) is around?!I saw both of them during first week of December, so they are still in the game, but I do not know if they are currently there now, sorry.
Member #4469
01-21-17, 20:40
I saw both of them during first week of December, so they are still in the game, but I do not know if they are currently there now, sorry.Ok, thanks! Will try and see them early February!
Yeah due to laziness and convenience really.
But Frankfurt was disappointing too.
Hmmm. NRW or Hamburg?It is January, all clubs are on hibernate. World is better now than at any point in the last year. Oase lu is not amazing but because it is January. Sharks is a absolute disappointment. Management lets in any street walker and with the current clientele, the club at some points resembles the Turkish fleet market.
Waiting for the summer.
Nooky Ninja
01-22-17, 19:17
the club at some points resembles the Turkish fleet market.They are selling their ships?
Timing good because Ninja needs new model navy after bathtub accident with firecrackers over new year Eve.
Love torpedos los.
ExpatLover
01-22-17, 19:45
It is January, all clubs are on hibernate. World is better now than at any point in the last year. Oase lu is not amazing but because it is January. Sharks is a absolute disappointment. Management lets in any street walker and with the current clientele, the club at some points resembles the Turkish fleet market.
Waiting for the summer.Always the same story too many FKK, too many girls who are trying everything to earn money, change club every week, from Germany to Austria, Switzerland, escort in London or Dublin and obviously only the very top one can earn a lot. Best LU is most probably Shark after 5 PM, World has a lot of regular girls there for many years, Oase more for the week-end nights.
It is January, all clubs are on hibernate. World is better now than at any point in the last year. Oase lu is not amazing but because it is January. Sharks is a absolute disappointment. Management lets in any street walker and with the current clientele, the club at some points resembles the Turkish fleet market.
Waiting for the summer.Well I am going in two weeks in February, so I hope LU is back from holiday then.
PrivatePress
01-27-17, 01:05
#Natalia (Romanian).
Glasses, 5'8 in heels, small mole right below left shoulder blade.
Fit, natural B cups.
Fabulous, all you can take oral. Wildcat in doggy.
Friendly, talkative, great time.
Saw her late- 10 pm'ish- on weeknight.
#Elli (Romanian).
5'8 in heels, tattoos on her back of a pink bird, blue bird, some flowers.
Fit, natural B cups, short red hair (for now).
Sensual blowjob, accommodating sex, fun girl.
Great conversation. Couldn't get enough of her.
Saw her late- 10 pm'ish- on weeknight.
#Word of warning- avoid coming here on Wednesdays.
Wednesday is lingerie day so the women walk around covered more than usual.
Harder to spot implants, flabby bellies, etc.
Just got back from a nice day at Artemis (14:00 to 19:00). Had three sessions:
First: Avril from Romania. Exactly my type. Dyed red hair with pale skin. Closest thing to Lindsay Lohan in the club. Really enjoyed the session and the conversation. Her CIM skills were top notch, taking in the load (not letting it just drip out of her mouth to the sides like some girls) and a good job a draining every remaining drop for a good 30 seconds after climax.
Next: Sharon from Hungary. Very aggressive. I told her I needed time to recover after Avril, but she wasn't having it. Normally, I would just walk away. But her extreme confidence that her sucking skills would revive junior, plus her petite, yet curvy bod with gorgeous face and bright red lips made me cave in. She turned out to be right and was able to get me going, although it took awhile for me to finish CIM.
3rd and final punt of the day: Kareen (or maybe Korinna) from Romania. Brunette spinner with cute shin high black stockings. Another great session. By this time, I was a bit tired and the only way to finish was via tight, fast HJ.
Notes on the club:
This was my first time visiting in the winter. I really didn't like the fact that the entire outdoor area was closed. My three favorite things outside are:
1) The hot tub. I can't believe that such a big club doesn't have an indoor hot tub.
2) The outside sauna area with steam room. I prefer much steam room to dry sauna, and there isn't a steam room in the main building.
3) No self serve soda station. I prefer going to the outdoor one so I don't have to wait 5 minutes in a smoky area to get served (luckily, downstairs non alcoholic bar was open in the main building).
I can understand why they would close the pool and not have loungers, but I think the hot tub and the sauna / steam room area should be open year long.
Also, I forgot that there was a 3 hour time frame of no food from 15:00 to 18:00, which sucked for me when I started getting hungry at 15:10, haha.
Just got back from a nice day at Artemis (14:00 to 19:00). Had three sessions:
First: Avril from Romania. Exactly my type. Dyed red hair with pale skin. Closest thing to Lindsay Lohan in the club. Really enjoyed the session and the conversation. Her CIM skills were top notch, taking in the load (not letting it just drip out of her mouth to the sides like some girls) and a good job a draining every remaining drop for a good 30 seconds after climax.
Next: Sharon from Hungary. Very aggressive. I told her I needed time to recover after Avril, but she wasn't having it. Normally, I would just walk away. But her extreme confidence that her sucking skills would revive junior, plus her petite, yet curvy bod with gorgeous face and bright red lips made me cave in. She turned out to be right and was able to get me going, although it took awhile for me to finish CIM.
3rd and final punt of the day: Kareen (or maybe Korinna) from Romania. Brunette spinner with cute shin high black stockings. Another great session. By this time, I was a bit tired and the only way to finish was via tight, fast HJ.
Notes on the club:
This was my first time visiting in the winter. I really didn't like the fact that the entire outdoor area was closed. My three favorite things outside are:
1) The hot tub. I can't believe that such a big club doesn't have an indoor hot tub.
2) The outside sauna area with steam room. I prefer much steam room to dry sauna, and there isn't a steam room in the main building.
3) No self serve soda station. I prefer going to the outdoor one so I don't have to wait 5 minutes in a smoky area to get served (luckily, downstairs non alcoholic bar was open in the main building).
I can understand why they would close the pool and not have loungers, but I think the hot tub and the sauna / steam room area should be open year long.
Also, I forgot that there was a 3 hour time frame of no food from 15:00 to 18:00, which sucked for me when I started getting hungry at 15:10, haha.Hey TheRudgr.
It has been a while since I went to Artemis, after a mediocre experience a few years ago. First of all, Sharon (HUN) was not there when I last visited, but I had sessions with her on three previous visits. The perfect companion as you described. It does sound like she still looks good, but perhaps a little bit curvier. Nina (CZ) had long since retired. One of the reasons why I had a poor experience on my last visit was I was just walking to the dining area right after 19:00. I knew dinner was being served, but some Romanian girls started blocking my path. I would not have taken these girls in a thousand years, especially not on a empty stomach. They flat out told me that "the restaurant is closed". I told them NO and made a bee line to the dining room.
I did find a few girls there that night that were good performers. Esra or Ezra, (TUR) depending on how she spelled her name, treated me very well. There was also little petite Martina (BUL). She tried to get me to have a threesome with her friend, but I just took her again. Somehow, the magic was gone after she started to the heavy upsell. This was not our first meeting, so I was a bit disappointed. I believe I had one more session that night, but I would have to dig through my notes. It was not very memorable.
The outdoor area is probably difficult to maintain during the winter months, but I do remember taking a naked Martina outside and waiting for one of the outdoor rooms. She was shivering like a little girl in the cold. I took off my robe and wrapped her up. When we finally got into the room, we made our own heat. It sure brings back some memories.
I know that Mainhatten in Frankfurt has a self serve soda fountain in the dining room. Also, clubs like Living Room in Dusseldorf have self serve beer fridges. I never did like the Artemis bar area with the thick smoke. Above all, that was one of the primary reasons why I never went back. I do miss some of the girls there though. Avril does sound like my type of girl too, but it would be unlikely that I would make a trip to Berlin just to meet her. If I ever return on business, I would definitely look out for this redhead.
Thanks for invoking those good memories. All the best to you!
FiddyCent.
Hey TheRudgr.
It has been a while since I went to Artemis, after a mediocre experience a few years ago....
I know that Mainhatten in Frankfurt has a self serve soda fountain in the dining room. Also, clubs like Living Room in Dusseldorf have self serve beer fridges. I never did like the Artemis bar area with the thick smoke. Above all, that was one of the primary reasons why I never went back. I do miss some of the girls there though. Avril does sound like my type of girl too, but it would be unlikely that I would make a trip to Berlin just to meet her. If I ever return on business, I would definitely look out for this redhead.
Thanks for invoking those good memories. All the best to you!
FiddyCent.Hey Fiddy,
Sorry to hear that your last experience was mediocre. I suggest you give it another try next time you're in the region. Being that it's winter, there appeared to be a couple more 4 or 5's (and one 3), but there were still plenty 7 to 9.5's to choose from. It did seem to get busier much earlier, but that could just be because it was a Saturday and the outdoor areas are closed, forcing all punters into the main building.
Yeah, the beer fridge at LR is the best! And I also like helping myself to the soda machine in the drinking room in Mainhattan, as well as the free champagne / mimosas on Sundays there.
Well, gad to hear I brought back fond memories. I'm off to spend the day at Artemis again and will post another report if anything worthy of note happens.
Hey Fiddy,
Sorry to hear that your last experience was mediocre. I suggest you give it another try next time you're in the region. Being that it's winter, there appeared to be a couple more 4 or 5's (and one 3), but there were still plenty 7 to 9.5's to choose from. It did seem to get busier much earlier, but that could just be because it was a Saturday and the outdoor areas are closed, forcing all punters into the main building.
Yeah, the beer fridge at LR is the best! And I also like helping myself to the soda machine in the drinking room in Mainhattan, as well as the free champagne / mimosas on Sundays there.
Well, gad to hear I brought back fond memories. I'm off to spend the day at Artemis again and will post another report if anything worthy of note happens.I will take your advice, TheRugdr and make a return to Artemis. This will only happen if the winds carry me back in that direction. I won't plan a trip solely for a return to Artemis. It will have to be a case if I am in Berlin for business and happen to have time to kill. For every bad visit, I remember how the good the club was in its heyday. Hope your day at Artemis is a good one.
Happy hunting!
FiddyCent.
As far as line up goes, artemis is finished! Unless you like fat, old, full of tattoo, silicone tits silicone face bottox type of girls. It is now same LU as ordinary brothel.
Single day visit today.
Arrived after 3 pm.
Sparse attendance at that time but notable Raissa (looked superb) and later Cassandra and Soledad.
No Fatima, Mary, Martina, Silvia.
Nikita 39 Ru Moskva 165 cm slim with augments and perfect rear, high check bones and dry wit, brown hair, dark eyes.
Pleasantly crazy. Full deal except no DATY, too sensitive and did not want to risk beard rub. Excellent skill set.
Corina 27 Ro Sibiu 162 cm slim, blond hair, slavic look reminds one of Iris. Delightful conversation. Stella performance, no upsell.
Elisabeth 33 Esp Valencia 152 cm petite perfect white skin, reddish hair, sparkling blue eyes. Non stop in the room.
All repeatable. Nonfat, non ugly, nice but interesting dance format fulfilled.
Left 2 am.
It's good for your physical (and mental) health to "nut" on a regular basis. It's like anything else. If you don't use the equipment, it's going to rust and stop working! So, I try to nut at least every other day. If I go too long, that next nut actually might not feel so comfortable. So, keep the equipment oiled and pumping my lads! Hahaha!LOL LOL Right On.
Single day visit today.
Arrived after 3 pm.
Sparse attendance at that time but notable Raissa (looked superb) and later Cassandra and Soledad.
No Fatima, Mary, Martina, Silvia.
Nikita 39 Ru Moskva 165 cm slim with augments and perfect rear, high check bones and dry wit, brown hair, dark eyes.
Pleasantly crazy. Full deal except no DATY, too sensitive and did not want to risk beard rub. Excellent skill set.
Corina 27 Ro Sibiu 162 cm slim, blond hair, slavic look reminds one of Iris. Delightful conversation. Stella performance, no upsell.
Elisabeth 33 Esp Valencia 152 cm petite perfect white skin, reddish hair, sparkling blue eyes. Non stop in the room.
All repeatable. Nonfat, non ugly, nice but interesting dance format fulfilled.
Left 2 am.See, it is all old girls now. It is over as far as LU goes for Artemis.
See, it is all old girls now. It is over as far as LU goes for Artemis.But older can mean experience too. Average age is going up, but girls like Ella is still going strong at 35+.
Someone like Aksena has more skills than most, and knows all the buttons to push. 30 ish years old, or close.
Some 20 year olds have no idea how to fuck.
22-23 and up is good. Below that it is 110% optics anyway, and -10% skill.
Unfortunately, options are running a bit thin at artemis, and not everyone stays strong when they close up on 35...
But calling it an average brothel is a bit of a stretch. Its still higher class than most. And there are few fat girls. That one sofa group of fat old romanians are gone I though?
Nooky Ninja
02-01-17, 21:07
All repeatable. Nonfat, non ugly, nice but interesting dance format fulfilled.A brief fleeting moment of sanity here, before nutters return. Thank you Bearsk.
Artemis ok. Thread is dead. Sad. Quit.
No Fatima, Mary, Martina, Silvia.No Fatima, Mary, Martina: quite correct. Silvia started at 8 pm or so.
Nikita ... Full deal except no DATYAFAIK she accepts DATY. Had her some 20 times or so. Maybe I'm better shaved as you are.
No Fatima, Mary, Martina: quite correct. Silvia started at 8 pm or so.I missed Silvia. That's a downer, I love that girl.
AFAIK she accepts DATY. Had her some 20 times or so. Maybe I'm better shaved as you are.Likely yes, the beard did it. Maybe next time. To shave or not to shave, that is a question.
See, it is all old girls now. It is over as far as LU goes for Artemis.Most women have their charms.
Your attendance is voluntary. They can always put an EE high school uniform and teenagers night just for you. The rest of us would certainly turn up!
Member #4469
02-07-17, 02:06
Arrived early Sunday afternoon as usual it's very relaxing the first few hours at Artemis. After some breakfast-buff and some time relaxing I wen't with Vanity (Ger) a small cute black girl with a bubbly personality, big natural tits, been with her before a couple of times so didn't ask for DFK but had her coming hard in DATY and the sex is very good with her and her tight body. Highly recommended!
After some rest and good talk with a fellow Swede, Spanish girl Lorena intruduced herself, kind of dark skin, enhanced tits, long black hair after some serious massage on my crotch I couldn't resist, so of to the room and a nice GFE-experience I would recommend her!
Left Artemis with the Swede around 17:30 for some nice Vietnamese food at Saigon Green on Kantstrasse, really fresh if you like asian food.
Came back to Artemis around 20:00 and the place was not full but busy.
Wen't with Dea a fitness-trained brunett with enhanced tits from Rus / Rum I have seen her at Artemis before but never wen't because she strikes me as arrogant and cold at first sight, and she have never met my eyes when I have been checking her out before almost avoiding it, but this time we started a conversation and she seems to be a funny girl. I must say I was a bit surprised that the session wen't so smooth I mainly choose her for optic but must say I will happily repeat her!
After some rest I did finally see my turkish favorite girl Aileen, it's more then a year since I last seen her. Probably 23-25 years old she hangs around with the german girls at the front end of the bar entering the club. Beautiful face, black hair in a ponytail, perfect perky enhanced tits and a tight body, this girl is second to none in BJ-skills all about her is supertight! I came twice with this lovely girl, pop 4&5! After I was dead and had to say no to a few of my old favorites, choosed to have a sauna and a massage downstairs instead before leaving approximately 00:30
Monday, came early again. The very small Valentina 150 cm (Col) joined me for breakfast and we decided we wanted to be our first of the day! She is easy to remember, because of her unique skills in the art of different massages. If you don't like her for her optics I would recommend everyone to go with her for her erotic massages, anyway she and I have very good connection and the session with her was highly energetic and very much GFE. Most highly recommended!
Second girl was Alia (Tur) she wears glasses, has a very tight body with perfect natural tits. Just like Dea Alia has been at Artemis for a while but we have never spoken before but she confronted me in the "sofa" under the stairs when I was lying there relaxing. We started with a nice BBBJ in the kino downstairs before going for the rooms behind the kino, she was nice and willing but we never really had any chemistry so I would have to think about going with her again, but she is beautiful and friendly but i guess you can't connect with everyone.
Third and fourth session was with my Turkish favorite Aileen as said before, gorgeous girl! Most highly recommended!
I've personally avoided Dea because I've seen her finnishing several guys in 10-15 minutes standing by the stairs. How long did your session last? Perhaps it is ymmv? She does look quite good though, and I recall she has a decent sense of humor...
Member #4469
02-07-17, 04:27
I've personally avoided Dea because I've seen her finnishing several guys in 10-15 minutes standing by the stairs. How long did your session last? Perhaps it is ymmv? She does look quite good though, and I recall she has a decent sense of humor...Hello Pistons, yes I have also seen this before that and the reasons mentioned in my post was the reasons I haven't pursued my interest in her before. The session must have been very close to the half an hour mark because I started the session with giving her an big orgasm in DATY before she returned the favor with a sloppy long BBBJ and sex in several positions. I remember I was unsure if we had gone over the time or not when I was about to pay her and I didn't want to ask her by the lockers so I gave her two hundred euros bill and asked for change and she gave me back 140.
Hi Guys,
Anyone spotted Evan in Artemis during the past few days? Thinking of making a visit there this coming weekend if she is still around.
Many Thanks.
Howie.
I've personally avoided Dea because I've seen her finnishing several guys in 10-15 minutes standing by the stairs. How long did your session last? Perhaps it is ymmv? She does look quite good though, and I recall she has a decent sense of humor...A very regular of mine, with more than 40 rooms for 1 year and half, is used to finish rabbits in 10 mn, sometimes 7 mn between taking key and returning to let the key on desk. She often has 3 rooms per hour. About 20 rooms on Saturday. But she never ran with me. When we started, she said to me she preferred we had only 30 mn rooms after 8 pm, we had 1 hour rooms in the afternoon. Since long time, we had only 1 hour rooms even on Saturday night, she knows I want to choose the room upstairs to look at her ass, walking upstairs, we take time to relax, to foreplay. She is for sure one of the busiest girl in Germany, but she behave about her client behavior. With her amazing ratio waist / ass, she is my doggy fantasy, but also very friendly. Just a bit lack of passion and sensuality, but she doesn't have many clients who look for what I look for.
I don't care how girls behave with other guys, I just play my game to get what I want. I m sometimes surprised about what I read about girls I meet.
A very regular of mine, with more than 40 rooms for 1 year and half, is used to finish rabbits in 10 mn, sometimes 7 mn between taking key and returning to let the key on desk. She often has 3 rooms per hour. About 20 rooms on Saturday. But she never ran with me.Agreed, all of my favs doing lots of 7 to 10 minutes rooms. They smart enough and save their energy for their regular clients. Short time sesions are no sign of performance abilities of girls anymore.
The quicker the guys cum, the hotter the girl must be huh? New mantra perhaps?
Guys in here in the past have named some of their favourite girls whirlwinds and tornados. Next up is typhoons...
- she moved back on my cock doggy style, and completely blew me away! It was as if I was struck by lightning when I blew my load inside the condom after 1 minute. WOW, I've never cum this fast ever before! What a force of nature she was! Left me completely drained! And even time had flown faster than my watch! When we left the room, my stopwatch didn't even say 3 minutes! What a typhoon!
The quicker the guys cum, the hotter the girl must be huh? New mantra perhaps?
Guys in here in the past have named some of their favourite girls whirlwinds and tornados. Next up is typhoons...
- she moved back on my cock doggy style, and completely blew me away! It was as if I was struck by lightning when I blew my load inside the condom after 1 minute. WOW, I've never cum this fast ever before! What a force of nature she was! Left me completely drained! And even time had flown faster than my watch! When we left the room, my stopwatch didn't even say 3 minutes! What a typhoon!What I meant was guys behavior make WG behavior. A girl can behave in very different ways with different guys, so I don't care about how a girl behave with others, or what is written about her. If she attracts me, I go to speak with her. I was often surprised in very good way and Kate never rushed me for 1 year and half, I never had 10 mn room with her. I think, among many rabbits for very fast money, she is OK about our 1 hour, different rooms with foreplay, not only doggy fucking.
What I meant was guys behavior make WG behavior. A girl can behave in very different ways with different guys, so I don't care about how a girl behave with others, or what is written about her. If she attracts me, I go to speak with her. I was often surprised in very good way and Kate never rushed me for 1 year and half, I never had 10 mn room with her. I think, among many rabbits for very fast money, she is OK about our 1 hour, different rooms with foreplay, not only doggy fucking.I know m8. Just that the opportunity presented itself with a joke.
Member #4469
02-09-17, 01:33
What I meant was guys behavior make WG behavior. A girl can behave in very different ways with different guys, so I don't care about how a girl behave with others, or what is written about her. If she attracts me, I go to speak with her.I agree with all of this. This forum can help other members in general, BUT when it comes to attraction of women we are all different, some people like women big some like them petite some likes enhanced boobs some like them natural, somebody likes blondes some like brunettes etc. Etc. And maybe most important the connection with another human being is very individual and unique it really doesn't matter if it's a WG or a guy at work. If I see in my mind beautiful girl and we have some kind of connection I will happily take her to the room regardless what has been written about her by others. Then again if I'm confronted by a girl and I hesitate if I want to go with her or not purely on optic, then massively good reviews can put me in the right direction! For me the famous Nina was one of those girls, I didn't think she was especially beautiful or had a very nice body, but her outstanding reviews and her personality made me go with her, and I repeated her a few times after that based on fantastic service!
Echoed here for years take your time to talk to the girl a minute or two before heading to the room it will save you a lot of euros and bad experiences!
My advise would be to go with your gut feeling.
I know m8. Just that the opportunity presented itself with a joke.Some girls are really surprising. I remember Roberta. Ro met on Sunday 3 July at Sharks. I was watching Austrian F1 , when she arrived and sit not far from me. Usually, nothing can disturb me about F1 or ski races, but when I saw her, I knew it would be difficult to resist to her smell of sex sensuality until the race finished. I had one eyes on the screen and one eye on her white teeth smile and sexy body. I was happy a guy sit with her, so I could concentrate on race, but even she was stuck to him, he didn't go with her, so she spoke with another girl and kept on smiling, a nightmare to resist. Couldn't wait for podium, went to her smile. It was about 3.30 pm. I said to her I wanted her in chalet outside, under hot sun, but not so hot than her, with her wild sensuality, what a woman who smell sex, what energy, what passion for sex, couldn't even understand why she behave like this, she never let me breathe for 1 hour. 100 were not expensive with her. Unfortunately, coming from Relax around Zurich, she thought business was not good at Sharks, from Friday she arrived, so she didn't want to stay. Later I had to repeat with classy Ilka, so didn't repeat with this Romanian tornado and unfortunately she was not there anymore on next week ends. Lorena is really passionate but sweetly, Amira World was a real wildcat, LR medusa was always stuck on my face, breathing in my mouth, I met some sensual girl, but Roberta was so wet, so hot, so into fluent sex action, never stopping, like a washing machine, what I call a tornado. I was lucky to experience a woman like her, I would have liked to repeat with her.
Does anybody know if Akira (Thai) and Aileen (Tur / Ger) is around?!Aileen around.
Aileen around.Any reviews for Olga in Artemis?
Any reviews for Olga in Artemis?In Artemis since December 2015. GFE, smooth French Kissing, DATY. Don't be disappointed, she's got plastic tits. Recommended and worth a try.
Member #4469
02-11-17, 17:31
Aileen around.Thanks! I've seen her last week! She told me to ask the german crew next time because they know when she is coming to Artemis.
Thanks! I've seen her last week! She told me to ask the german crew next time because they know when she is coming to Artemis.Saw her today. She is back from vacation.
In Artemis since December 2015. GFE, smooth French Kissing, DATY. Don't be disappointed, she's got plastic tits. Recommended and worth a try.Thanks. I will try next time. I had a feeling that was the case.
Anyone spotted Evan in Artemis during the past few days?To answer my own question, yes she is still there for all her fans out there.
Made a quick trip to the Love Banhof yesterday. Line up was pretty standard I. E. Pretty average looking lot with a few doable girls, no stunners except for one and quite a number of MILFy's around.
For their fans: Aileen (Germany), ex-Shark's Yra (Romania), Avril (Romania), Chantal (Romania or Moldavia) were there. No Ruby (Romania) nor Valesca (Germany).
Was tempted to try dirty blond Isabelle from Moldavia but she seemed a bit stuck up so at the last minute decided against it. She hangs around with Timea and another girl who looks very similar facially and bodywise to her and I thought they were twin sisters but she said they were not. Think she said her lookalike friend's name was Heidi or something like that. Anyone had the pleasure to try either of them out and feed back if I made a good or bad decision?
For the evening, I did the dirty deed with Evan. Hot looking as always. Had to get her early (8.30 pm) as she went AWOL later for the rest of evening and was nowhere to be seen.
Spotted a really hot looking blond new German girl whilst eating. Slim build but with curvy bum, dirty blond hair, medium height, small tits B- cups, an absolutely gorgeous face and tattoos of three stars or three birds behind on her right shoulder. I wanted to see her but she was nowhere to seen after my visual at dinner time. Anyone know who and what her name is? Another clue, she was dining and chatting with a new cute half black girl. Her partner in crime I think. Love to try and catch her on my next visit.
As I couldn't find this hot looking German and was a bit skeptical about Isabelle, decided to go with a safe bet and went with Emily from Sofia, Bulgaria. Nice curvy lass, cute face with silicon D cups. Reminded me of a fuller bodied vision of Helli from Sharks. Nice love handles and she loves anal for anyone interested.
All in all a mixed evening. Was hoping for more sparks but still left satisfied. Hoping to ignite that spark when I get to see this lovely new German. But if not I have GT Vienna and Wellcum to look forward to next week.
Howie.
130+ girls there on Thursday, yet I didn't spot a single new doable girl. Lineup seems unchanged yet again. I guess the tital lineup or regulars and semi regulars are 250 ish girls, so enough if you are new to the club, but age keeps going up if they get so few new ones in. Thats the main concern for Artemis, so I will probably skip it next trip even if I have a few girls I still like there.
130+ girls there on Thursday, yet I didn't spot a single new doable girl. Lineup seems unchanged yet again. I guess the tital lineup or regulars and semi regulars are 250 ish girls, so enough if you are new to the club, but age keeps going up if they get so few new ones in. Thats the main concern for Artemis, so I will probably skip it next trip even if I have a few girls I still like there.My word! This sounds really, really bad. Don't like what I've been hearing from most people about Artemis. Maybe I will save a lot of money then. We shall see!
MaxSquatter
02-13-17, 16:52
I find all that almost impossible to believe. Over 100 and none were do-able? Ridiculous. Unless you only will take a 10 or a 9.
My word! This sounds really, really bad. Don't like what I've been hearing from most people about Artemis. Maybe I will save a lot of money then. We shall see!
My word! This sounds really, really bad. Don't like what I've been hearing from most people about Artemis. Maybe I will save a lot of money then. We shall see!If it had been located in hessen or nrw, it would have changed my take on it, and I'd place it on my next trips list also. But Berlin is a bit far away, and the extra effort is a bit of an investment too. Then I've also been there too much, and are tired of the couches and walls too.
Max: I didnt say none were doable. I said none of the new girls were doable. If there even were any new girls at all, which there probably were a short few of even of I didnt recognize any. Some girls that has been there for 6 months or more are still doable. And lots of those seeing there are so many girls...
MaxSquatter
02-13-17, 20:26
Understood. I stand corrected. Do you know a blonde German named Mariella? She was my favorite when I went in late 2015. I believe she is still there.
If it had been located in hessen or nrw, it would have changed my take on it, and I'd place it on my next trips list also. But Berlin is a bit far away, and the extra effort is a bit of an investment too. Then I've also been there too much, and are tired of the couches and walls too.
Max: I didnt say none were doable. I said none of the new girls were doable. If there even were any new girls at all, which there probably were a short few of even of I didnt recognize any. Some girls that has been there for 6 months or more are still doable. And lots of those seeing there are so many girls...
Understood. I stand corrected. Do you know a blonde German named Mariella? She was my favorite when I went in late 2015. I believe she is still there.Sorry, no. I am terrible with names. Only occationally I write down some on my phone notebook, but it happens less and less. So I need to hear a name several times for it to stick. Lots of blonde germans come in and out at artemis.
Got to Artemis around 8 pm on a Monday evening. At 80 euros, the entrance fee was the steepest I have encountered so far this trip to Germany. If you want any alcoholic beverages, then you pay for chips that you will exchange at the bar for your drinks. I got two chips for 20 euros total. Already paid 100 euros and haven't even got to the fucking locker room yet! Got changed and showered and headed straight to the dining area to get something to eat. The food was shit! This is why nowadays I will try to eat a little something before going to a club. You just don't know if it's going to be a good food or a bad food night. After eating, I decided to walk around the club and see what was new, if anything, and to reminisce. Artemis is one of the first FKKs I visited during the start of my trips to FKK Land for fun. I have a lot of good memories from the place. Ahh yes! The kino and the rooms right off of it. I fucked pretty, blonde, Czech Marketa in the ass in this room right here (big smile on my face)! Marketa! Now that was one Artemis super star! Everybody was fucking that. And I got her in her forbidden butt hole! She went to the room so many times that I started calling her "Mattress Back Marketa" LOL! Not to her face of course!
While walking around, I had to fend off a few uglies. Went back to the main area and got a Jack and Coke, and settled down on my favorite sofa to lounge in at Artemis. The set-up is still the same after all of these years! Fended off about 3 to 4 more fuglies before I saw who I would be fucking for the night. Long blonde hair, blue eyes, a really pretty Aryan face, some big natural looking tits, and a decent butt. Skin also looked beautiful and flawless from where I sat. She was standing against the wall near the end of the bar closest to the dining room. I was looking and staring trying to get her attention, but she would barely look my way. Is she stuck up or shy or maybe doesn't like my type or what? I didn't know, and I really didn't want to come off as desperate by getting up and stepping to her. I saw her moving closer my way as she went to the bar to order something to drink. That's when our eyes locked in strongly onto each other, and I got a big smile! I smiled back and waved, but still it did not look like this blonde, German-looking beauty was going to come to me, so I assertively waved her over. And she came and sat next to me. Smiling and draping a leg across my lap. You guys know how the tutes do.
The girl told me that her name was Lilia, and that she was indeed German. From the north of Germany. Said she was 24 and had been working at Artemis for a year, but that she still returned to the Dusseldorf area periodically where she had worked at GT to see her many clients and friends who patronize and / or still work at that club. Lilia was very pleasant and easy-going and nice to talk to. She even laughed at my jokes hehe! I decided that I was very interested in sessioning, but first I needed to make sure that I understood what she would "make" in the room, and for what price. This is how the Romanian girls say it. What they "make" and "do not make" in the room LOL! Lilia said she was straight up ready for anything. Anal sex, cum in / on her mouth or in her pretty German girl face or on her body. Yippie kay yah I say! Such a pretty girl willing to do such naughty, dirty things! Price would be 60 euros per half hour with 50 euros extra for cum in face or in / on her mouth, and 100 euros extra for butt fucking her anus. So with all that, and knowing what I like to do and for how long, I knew I was facing a potential 270 euro bill! That would be a bit of a budget buster for me, but I did not try to negotiate with Lilia. To me, she was just too good-looking to pass up or haggle with, so decided to just go with it, and in the end things worked out just fine cost wise. Damn it! Forgot to ask about laundry again!
Now as we left to do the deed, it was a bit of a walk of shame. I mean every head in the house was turning to look, girls and guys! They all knew Lilia was fine! And I was getting ready to go fuck her! When we had been sitting on the couch talking, other mongers were walking by looking on enviously, and some with big smiles on their faces. They knew I was sitting with a looker LOL! Lilia told me that most of the other girls in the club don't like her. I replied that's because you're good-looking, they know it, and they're jealous. This is how women are to other women. I did notice one other tute (ugly) who seemed to be looking upon Lilia with contempt. In the room, Lilia turned out to provide a non-rushed GFE, as she said she liked to do and would "make" for me. I was turned on by her looks and personality, and for once I was thinking about making love to a German like Lilia, and not just about fucking a German girl in her ass. We started with Lilia kissing me on the lips and letting me suck / play with her big titties. They felt heavy and natural to my touch. Then next she started giving me some fantastic head. She licked my nuts and several times tongue-tickled me from my scrotum sack all the way up to the underside tip of my dick, stopping occasionally to kiss and run her moistened lips along the shaft. I groaned as she took the full head into her mouth, sucking and slurping. Looking up at me seductively as she sucked, and looking like a blonde, top quality porno starlet of the highest order. Then very lightly slapping my dick in her pretty face before deep-throat me all the way. Fuck! It felt so damn good, and got me revved up! I started to tell Lilia how I was going to sperm on her lips!
She seemed to like that dirty talk and started to lick and suck and smack her lips more voraciously. She had that blonde head bobbing like a bobble-head doll as she worked my dick around in her mouth, eventually settling on giving the most attention to the swollen, sensitive head, including tonguing my [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) hole! Felt so damn good that I told her not to stop it! To keep tonguing that [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) hole just like that, and that I was for sure going to nut in her mouth! Lilia kept it going, and sure enough my body went into uncontrollable, orgasmic spasms as I spurted sperm all in and on Lilia's mouth! I saw some of my cum around her mouth people! And like the damn good cocksucker that she is, Lilia did not pull away! No, absolutely not! She kept sucking and slurping all up and down the shaft and until she had taken every last drop of my semen into her willing and waiting mouth, making sure to clean me up all in the same now slower head bobbing movements. Eating all of my cum! Only once she had all of my spudge in her mouth did Lilia pull away to spit it out. Good, good, good, good, good! Only a full on swallow of my baby seed would have made it all even better. If you mongers want some good skull from a hot girl, give blonde, German Lilia at Artemis a try. I would not mislead you on this!
After some of the best head I have received this particular trip (Beatrice at Palace was even better, but she's not in Lilia's league when it comes to looks), I settled back for a long and fairly decent massage from Lilia. Her hands worked wonders up and down my shoulders, back, legs, and feet. With that done, it was time for round two! Lilia started to suck me again, this time to get me hard so we could fuck! She swung around into 69 without me asking so that I could munch that pussy and play with that forbidden Aryan arsehole of hers by rubbing my fingers around and slightly into her tender anal opening. Then the condom goes on and Lilia mounts me cowgirl! Leaning over and smiling she starts DFKing, and then leaning back and grinding and rubbing her family jewels against mine before doing that steady up and down and up and down and more up and down against my pelvis! Lilia's pussy felt great too, and at this point I no longer cared about getting into her ass. In my fantasy world this was my girlfriend who I was dating. Or, this was my wife, and we were now trying to get pregnant LOL! Yes, this my friend was what you call "the girlfriend experience"!
Told Lilia that I wanted on top, and she happily obliged. Entered her desirable body with a big fat dick and looked down upon her joyful face as I plugged away inside of her vagina. Her looking back smiling with her eyes dreamily half-closed and moaning. Soon had all of my weight upon Lilia's body precious body. Pressing her down onto the bed and kissing her face and lips. Alternating strokes between slow and deliberate and making couple's love to hard and fast stranger fucking! When I had built up the right kind of steam and was ready, I groaned and emptied my seed inside of Lilia, with only the thin condom being the sole barrier preventing any of it from reaching her desirable Germanic womb. Lilia acted like she wanted it in there though by grabbing my butt and pulling me into her as my dick spermed inside of her pussy. Some more kissing to finish it off. Very nice GFE session! Very, very nice! I usually go for the PSE over the GFE, but every now and then you meet "that one". That one with whom it's more like making love versus just plain fucking. This is how my session was with Lilia. We didn't just fuck. We made love!
When we were done, we went to the safes outside the locker room where I paid Lilia a well-deserved 170 euros total. A total of 120 euros for the hour plus 50 additional for cummimg in / on her talented mouth. Saved 100 euros by not engaging her in butt sex, but we both just let it all flow naturally. We didn't get to butt fucking as we were enjoying other things. So, we just let it be. Told Lilia that I would be around for awhile, so maybe we would have a chance for a repeat. She seemed delighted at the prospect. One last kiss on the lips, and then we both went our separate ways to get cleaned up. Saw her back in the main room, standing in her usual spot. She smiled and waved at me, and then boom! She was only there for a few minutes before somebody else stepped to her and wanted to session. Dude jumped on that! This is how it is for a good-looking tute like Lilia. She's hot, and she's going to get plenty of business. No doubt. Told her that she was the prettiest girl in there, that I wasn't just trying to flatter her, and that I meant it! Lilia was gracious and kind in accepting my compliments. And I bet that based on the service she gave me, she's probably built up a strong and loyal cadre of followers. She was with that guy seemed like 2 hours to me. We spoke again when she was in the main room again. She suggested that we spend some time together again. Maybe have some coffee together and talk. Not just off to the room to fuck. Yowza!
You know that completely satisfied feeling you get when you've accomplished something you care about? That's the feeling I had as I sat and enjoyed my second drink of the night. Completely and totally satisfied. I had fucked the hottest babe in the house according to my personal tastes. I looked around. Saw maybe 2 or 3 others I would be interested in doing. But damn it none of them were as hot as Lilia is! And not only was Lilia hot, but she was damn good in bed too and put out the way a tute is supposed to put out for her money. Fuckin' ay yeah! I left around midnight. Like I said, totally and completely satisfied. Besides, the cigarette smoke in there was really, really starting to bother me. So, it was a good time to leave. I just might have to repeat with Lilia though. If I do, then maybe just maybe next time I'm going to have to get up in the asshole. We shall see my brothers. We shall see!
Note: As a part of our couch talk, I learned that Lilia is very aware of the coming changes to the law on July 1st, and she isn't happy about it. Says she does not want to have to register and all that. Said that if she registers and gets stopped by the cops for some reason, then they will know she is a prostitute, which she would consider to be an invasion of her privacy. She also told me that the authorities are going to get tough on collecting taxes, which would mean less money for her. Depending on how things shape out, Lilia further told me that she just may go to working only one week a month in Germany, and then spend the rest of the time working in other countries. What a shame it would be for her loyal clientele in Germany to lose most access to her. Fucking legal changes messing everything up! She said she doesn't know how the BBBJ will be enforced, but she was very aware that any fines would be imposed on us mongers, and not on the prostitutes.
PussyLiccker
02-14-17, 08:09
Was you attracted to this Lilia? I can't say I've really seen her at GT, but I heard she showed on rare occasions.
Was you attracted to this Lilia? I can't say I've really seen her at GT, but I heard she showed on rare occasions.Hard for me to say with 100% certainty that's her without seeing the face, but the tits do look familiar. Also, I notice that the picture says "Lilliana", but the girl I was with went by "Lilia". That means little though since the girls are always changing the names they use. Also, my Lilia's hair was a lot blonder than what's in the pic. Again means nothing since women are always changing their hair. So, it could very well be her. Where did you get that pic? One thing for sure is that the girl in the pic I've attached was there last night (don't know the name she is using at Artemis). I was kind of attracted to her, but did not pursue her since her facial features don't make it for me. I wouldn't say that her face is totally unattractive, but it's not that kind of "cover girl" beautiful that I like. Not Nordic looking enough LOL! I got the pic from the GT site, so girls obviously are working between the two clubs, which is no big surprise.
Was you attracted to this Lilia? I can't say I've really seen her at GT, but I heard she showed on rare occasions.Lilia is from Kiel I believe. Much whiter skin than on that picture there at the moment, but I can see it might get like that after weeks in the sun. Hard to say for sure it is her because of no face on the pic, but it could be her... She just claimed I had been with her twice. I just remember once, but she's a great girl for sure. Sometimes she works early she's the top girl for some hours, and I agree her service is quite good too. I'd do her again, especially when arriving early on a dayshift. Then again Georgiana also works dayshift these days and I'd rate her equally hot, but I never got around to trying her. Only flirting. And I allways postponed her a bit too much, and then she goes to bed at 23.00, and I regret my line for going with a night shift girl before her :/
Thanks for report on Lilia. Memories ☺
Thursday night, bang in the middle of Fruit Logistica messe. I was prepared for the worst but figured that the upside was that my chances of finding a couple of my favourites would be bigger than a normal day. My wish list: Antonia, Alessandra, Mandy, Fatima.
No Antonia as usual and no Fatima but blond petite Mandy (Austria) was there, sexy and friendly as always. Took her to one of the rooms downstairs, wonderful session and I thought my cock would explode when fucking her from behind in one of the most intense climaxes ever. I was shaking afterwards.
Shower, resting, coffee, sauna, fending of a couple of sharks etc. Then Alessandra (or Alejandra, not sure) from Spain suddenly turned up. This is a really small seņorita with a beautiful face, very firm a-cup tits with the cutest small nipples, and a tiny but still extremely round ass. My god, that ass! And her attitude and sweet personality is just amazing. She didn't quite remember me from our last encounter (about a year ago) but never mind. She suggested one of the outside rooms because of the waiting time upstairs, and she said that even though it's a bit cold to get there the rooms are warm enough. Not quite so (she admitted), the room was pretty cold and the floor was freezing, however I was so mesmerized by her perfect body that I immediately forgot about the room temperature so it didn't matter. Kissing, caressing, pussy and ass licking. Then she gave me a blowjob. In my first report on Alessandra I said that I wasn't impressed with her fellatio skills, but either she just had a bad day on that occasion or her sucking skills have since improved considerably. Wow! She even deep throat me slowly and passionately, something I have only experienced with one girl at Artemis before (the legendary Nina, back in the days). 69, slow fucking, kissing, more playing with her tiny firm ass and her not quite so tiny pussy lips. Then lying on the bed for a while, cuddling and hugging after I had finished. I really could not ask for more, just perfect!
I repeated with Alessandra once more a couple of hours later (absolutely great once again), then slept by the pool until thrown out at 5. During the whole stay I more or less completely avoided the main bar area because of the crowd and the thick smoke in there stinging my eyes. Anyhow, yes it was a busy night for sure, but still no where near as bad as I had expected from other reports on big messe nights.
A while ago someone told me that Antonia only works weekends now, can this be confirmed still? What are my chances of running into her on any random Friday, anybody knows?
Over and out.
MaxSquatter
02-14-17, 21:50
Mariella is short without heels (5'3 maybe). Has long blonde hair, great light skin complexion, natural breasts. She is friendly and hangs out near the poker machines just before you enter the main bar. Really sweet disposition. Great girl.
Sorry, no. I am terrible with names. Only occationally I write down some on my phone notebook, but it happens less and less. So I need to hear a name several times for it to stick. Lots of blonde germans come in and out at artemis.
At 80 euros, the entrance fee was the steepest I have encountered so far this trip to Germany. I learned that Lilia is very aware of the coming changes to the law on July 1st, and she isn't happy about it. Says she does not want to have to register and all that. Said that if she registers and gets stopped by the cops for some reason, then they will know she is a prostitute, which she would consider to be an invasion of her privacy. She also told me that the authorities are going to get tough on collecting taxes, which would mean less money for her. Depending on how things shape out, Lilia further told me that she just may go to working only one week a month in Germany, and then spend the rest of the time working in other countries. What a shame it would be for her loyal clientele in Germany to lose most access to her. Fucking legal changes messing everything up! She said she doesn't know how the BBBJ will be enforced, but she was very aware that any fines would be imposed on us mongers, and not on the prostitutes.Another really enjoyable report so thanks The Cane. You've clearly visited a number of clubs in Germany on this trip. I always think us travellers benefit from a club comparison after a long trip. How would you rate the clubs you've been to on this trip out of ten under headings: Line Up / Facilities / Food / Service received. Maybe post in Lounge forum?
Separately, will check out Lilia if she is there when I'm across to Artemis in a couple of weeks. Sounds terrific. I was in Spain last week and had a couple of discussions with girls who had received calls from some of their Romanian friends who had explained that after the new laws come in, they will move to Spain. It might not only be mongers put off German visits by this in future. The girls might vote with their feet. Of course that might just be what the authorities wanted but given that prostitution in Germany is legal and the Government receives taxes from the industry, it will have backfired somewhat if revenues diminish due to girls moving to other countries with less burdensome rules (not to mention the sun! Germany's loss could be Spain and Portugal's gain.
Another really enjoyable report so thanks The Cane. You've clearly visited a number of clubs in Germany on this trip. I always think us travellers benefit from a club comparison after a long trip. How would you rate the clubs you've been to on this trip out of ten under headings: Line Up / Facilities / Food / Service received. Maybe post in Lounge forum?
I was in Spain last week and had a couple of discussions with girls who had received calls from some of their Romanian friends who had explained that after the new laws come in, they will move to Spain. It might not only be mongers put off German visits by this in future. The girls might vote with their feet. Of course that might just be what the authorities wanted but given that prostitution in Germany is legal and the Government receives taxes from the industry, it will have backfired somewhat if revenues diminish due to girls moving to other countries with less burdensome rules (not to mention the sun! Germany's loss could be Spain and Portugal's gain.Wow! Rating the clubs. I'll have to think about it and maybe post something in the lounge as you suggest once this trip is over. Still not done yet! As for the girls voting with their feet, interesting you say that since that's exactly what Lilia said she was prepared to do. Pound for pound and inch for inch, Spain happens to be my favorite country in Europe. So, yes maybe this thing could turn out to be good for the Iberian peninsula. I have a future trip planned wink, wink! The countries Lilia mentioned for future work were Switzerland, Austria, and The Netherlands. The girls aren't stupid, and they will follow the mongers and their money wherever it is.
Girls who will go to work in Spain for Summer because of new law, won t get much business after Summer there, and already so many girls in Spain, 200 girls at fuck factory for Arabs, Paradise Junquera. Lady Dallas and Madams quite dead, far from past models Loretta. Ro and Mikhaela. Ro. Mainly Switzerland, or Austria are higher for business, still with BBBJ.
Biggest fish in the pond rule still applies after 1st July.
To answer my own question, yes she is still there for all her fans out there.
Made a quick trip to the Love Banhof yesterday. Line up was pretty standard I. E. Pretty average looking lot with a few doable girls, no stunners except for one and quite a number of MILFy's around.
For their fans: Aileen (Germany), ex-Shark's Yra (Romania), Avril (Romania), Chantal (Romania or Moldavia) were there. No Ruby (Romania) nor Valesca (Germany).
Was tempted to try dirty blond Isabelle from Moldavia but she seemed a bit stuck up so at the last minute decided against it. She hangs around with Timea and another girl who looks very similar facially and bodywise to her and I thought they were twin sisters but she said they were not. Think she said her lookalike friend's name was Heidi or something like that. Anyone had the pleasure to try either of them out and feed back if I made a good or bad decision?
For the evening, I did the dirty deed with Evan. Hot looking as always. Had to get her early (8.30 pm) as she went AWOL later for the rest of evening and was nowhere to be seen..I don't see the parallel to Helli from Sharks. Helli is light years better in any dimension.
No Antonia as usual and no Fatima but blond petite Mandy (Austria) was there, sexy and friendly as always. Took her to one of the rooms downstairs, wonderful session and I thought my cock would explode when fucking her from behind in one of the most intense climaxes ever. I was shaking afterwards.Mandy came on to me hard on two successive nights at Artemis, but I declined her. She's not my type, but I can certainly see how she would be somebody's. Like her blonde hair, but her face doesn't do it for me, and her skin is too white (like chalk). She can be funny and a good conversationalist though. Once I found out she was from Austria, I decided to hit her up for some intel. She said what do I look like to you? I'm a Catholic girl, which means that I don't fuck in my own country. I come to Germany to fuck! LOL!
Told her that I was touring around Germany, and she wanted to know which club I had been to that had the absolute most men patronizing the place. Told her that without a doubt it was Sharks, but that you also had to take into consideration that Sharks also had the most girls, so more competition (saw a pretty, blonde, Italian girl at Oase last night who left Sharks due to too many other girls). Mandy said she might check out Sharks, and I told her that I thought she would do well at any club she worked.
She said she really liked Artemis and did quite well there averaging 10 sessions a day, and had done 12 the day before. Just at the minimum half hour rate that would be 600 euros a day for her. But, you know she's not just getting the minimum. She's sucking guys off for another 50 euros and doing some hour-long sessions (or more). So, she's most certainly doing quite well! Saw her later sitting by herself and literally pouting. Asked her what was wrong, and she said, "I want to fuck"! LOLOLOL!
Now Lilia! What can I say? FKK wife material! I had two more rounds with her, which I will detail later. She was not at Artemis on Wednesday evening or all day on Thursday as she went home for a bit. Will be back on Friday evening and all day on Saturday. Then she will be leaving again for awhile to enjoy Carnival celebrations in the northwest of Germany. Plan accordingly if you would like to session with her.
Had only a brief visit this time. Partially due to social obligations and partly due to not really being in mood for FKK experience. Anyways, I arrived at 15:00 and left at 19:00. In that time there was never more than 14 girls available. Due to high men to women ratio, most of the girls were busy with only short breaks. Beside Italians, the place was filled with swedes and Norwegians throughout my stay which is very typical. Basically the prohibition in those two countries on buying sex is aiding the Artemis revenue.
Sessioned Brigitte from Hungary which nowadays sports a blonde long hair which suit her PSE style excellently. For those of you who do not know her, she has very prominent silicone breasts and lip injections and slim body. A very "porn look". As I said. These days she is a blonde but she experiments a lot with her hair. Very extrovert personality. Has plenty of customers.
She is veteran in the business and know all the dirty tricks in the book. As long as you don't let your guard down you will be fine with her. Good PSE performance.
For first time in long time, I met a new girl which I frankly don't remember the name of. She had experience from Frankfurt FKKs and provided a decent service. Nothing to complain about I just did not rate it over average score. Probably why I don't remember her.
In other news:
Jenna is still gone, after briefly having returned to Artemis for couple of months. Several German girls are on vacation nowadays. Nice change from my previous visit was that they have upgraded showers in both men and girls changing rooms.
Mandy said she might check out Sharks, and I told her that I thought she would do well at any club she worked.
She said she really liked Artemis and did quite well there averaging 10 sessions a day, and had done 12 the day before. She is a nice and very honest girl with high work ethics. It deffinately pays off for her. She once told me that she had done a summer tour at Oase and Palace in Hessen, but it was slower than Artemis for her, so she returned. She probably has a reputation and lots of regulars in berlin too... so it is probably hard if you just make short stays at other clubs to beat 10 sessions average per day... she does work long days though. Sometimes I feel she could have gained some from sleeping a bit more, as I have seen her very tired a few times. Perhaps it is that high 10 session a day goal she might have set for her that is a bit high sometimes... although I bet she count a 1 hour session as 2 sessions there... and a 2h session as 4... sure 10 a day in a weekend might be easy. But not average, as some days can be very slow. And she is not one of the weekend only girls.
Funny these room counting and especially room targeting. The girls usually target only in money, especially at Clubs like Artemis, Palace and Ohshit where many rooms more than a fifty.
ExpatLover
02-20-17, 06:13
She is a nice and very honest girl with high work ethics. It deffinately pays off for her. She once told me that she had done a summer tour at Oase and Palace in Hessen, but it was slower than Artemis for her, so she returned. She probably has a reputation and lots of regulars in berlin too... so it is probably hard if you just make short stays at other clubs to beat 10 sessions average per day... she does work long days though. Sometimes I feel she could have gained some from sleeping a bit more, as I have seen her very tired a few times. Perhaps it is that high 10 session a day goal she might have set for her that is a bit high sometimes... although I bet she count a 1 hour session as 2 sessions there... and a 2h session as 4... sure 10 a day in a weekend might be easy. But not average, as some days can be very slow. And she is not one of the weekend only girls.In the recent days, some girls from World, Oase, Mainhattan told me that they are considering to move to Artemis in Berlin just because it seems they will earn more in Berlin. Artemis has very few competitors in Berlin so obviously they are attracting many customers and bring a lot of business to the girls.
Funny these room counting and especially room targeting. The girls usually target only in money, especially at Clubs like Artemis, Palace and Ohshit where many rooms more than a fifty.Ofcourse, but the idea of room targets and average rooms (I've heard girls mention it a few times) is the same methodology as any sales person would use. Kind of like a hard sell. As opposed to the extras and tips which would be softer sells, and seen more as a bonus.
Maybe this is part of why they say sales people are the ones who understand prostitutes/escorts the most. The psychological aspect of it at least... it can be tough... at least the first years.
A little over a week ago, I wrote of my fantastic encounter with Lilia at Artemis. I enjoyed her so much that I decided to spend time with her on each of the following two days I was in Berlin. I made it a point to get to Artemis! On the second visit, after I had paid my entrance and was on my way to the locker room, who do I see but Lilia! Waiting to get paid from yet another session! We spoke and were friendly, and I told her that I would see her later in the bar. After I got changed and showered and all, stepped into the party area and found her sitting at the bar with some water to drink I think it was.
Lilia was glad to see me, and I would say that we spent about 15 to 20 minutes just sitting there talking. And this is one thing that was cool about Lilia. She's not just one of these "what's your name, where are you from, do you want to go to the room" type of tutes. No, if she likes you she will take some time and interest. Not just see you as a walking ATM to be emptied out! At the same time, as a monger you need to be cool with the girl too. That means that if you're not going to take her, don't sit there and try to hog up all of her time! If you're not going to take her, then let her go and just appreciate that she spent some quality time talking to you. After all, she's there to work and needs to try to make herself presentable to somebody else if you're not going to take her.
Now by this time, I had already been fucking around Germany for virtually two weeks straight! I was tired, and felt like I just needed to take a break. So, I decided not to go with Lilia right away. Told her that I was kind of tired, but that maybe later I might want to go to the room. She was cool and understood. Gave me a little kiss on the lips, and then she was right back to standing in her spot. That's another one of the things I like about Lilia too. She's always giving me kisses on the lips LOL! At the bar. If I stop to talk to her at her spot. If she sees me standing near the stairs. Near the lockers. In the room. Everywhere, everywhere Lilia saw me she was giving me kisses! I likes that hehehe! But I digress!
After leaving Lilia to do her thing, I just sat back in one of my favorite spots to where I could watch her. I hung out for about 4 hours. You know, eating and drinking and fending off approaches and stuff. And watching Lilia. And my friends, in those 4 hours I saw her go to the room 4 times! And remember she was just finishing up a session at my arrival! That's how the hell you know it's good boys! Everybody wants to fuck that. Keeping her busy! While watching, I came to understand why some of the other girls may not like Lilia and be jealous of her. You see, there are "prancers" and "posers". Prancers are going around all the time asking men to go to the room. Most FKK tutes are prancers. But now Lilia, she's a poser. She stands in one place. And the tricks come to her! It was literally no work for her. She stands. Poses. Looks pretty. Guys come up. They go to the room. Easy LOL! I bet there are plenty of other tutes in the house who hate her guts hahahaha!
So after watching this all play out for 4 hours, I finally decided that it was "my turn", but I was still dog tired and didn't think I could fuck. German Mariam over at World told me my dick was going to fall off when I informed her of my FKK travel plans LOL! Told Lilia I just wanted a massage (she gives good ones), and we agreed on a 30 minute massage session. Massage was great, and we had plenty of time to talk about things too. Lilia told me more facts and details of her life, including that she had done a stint at World that she did not particularly like. I told her that I wanted to see her the next day, and she said cool but make sure I got there like before 4 pm or so because she would be taking some time off to go home and would not work at all the day after next. We both agreed to meet up at the club the next day around the 11 am opening time.
So, I show up at about 11:30 am, and who do I see out at the area with the safes but Lilia! We have to stop meeting like this girl LOL! She gave me a now customary kiss on the lips, and told me she had gotten there about 15 minutes earlier. I went to change and such, got some coffee at the bar, then went for some breakfast which was decent. And what was great about the club was that hardly anybody was there! Maybe less than a handful of mongers, and about the same number of girls. A nice change of pace from the madhouse nights at Artemis! One reason why I wanted to stop by earlier than I had the previous 2 days was to see what the day shift was like talent-wise. Well, as the girls started to filter in, what I found was that it was the exact same tutes you would see at night LOL! Some of those girls are pulling some long hours man!
Anyway, I decided to go with Lilia for a third time, this time intending to make sure that we fucked! Oh yeah, I got another one of her great massages, but we also fucked in multiples too. And again, her asshole was on offer, but I just didn't get to it my brothers. In my previous long report on Lilia, I explained how great her BBBJ / CIM skills were. Although still good during this session, she didn't show me the full range of her talents as she had done the first time we sessioned. For instance, she didn't do that tongue tickle thing from the bottom of my scrotum sack all the way up to the underneath of the tip of my dick like she did the first time in the room LOL! There's nothing like the first time with a new favorite right? But still, it was all good! So good in fact, that when I sperm in Lilia's mouth this time, it was an even bigger load than on our first night together! I mean, after I nutted, she had "chipmunk cheeks" trying to hold in the sperm until she could spit it out hahaha!
The session continued with massage, then more fucking, including Lilia riding me reverse-cowgirl style leaning way over so that I could see her butt hole as she worked those Teutonic butt cheeks up and down. We finished in mish with me whispering dirty nothings (well maybe it was louder than a whisper hehe) into Lilia's ear as we humped forward to another nut for me. TC! Yes, yes! Blue-eyed, blonde German Lilia! She's a real winner folks! After my third session with her, we both went back to the bar. Me to one of the couches, and her to her spot. With she Lilia steadily leaving each hour to session! Before I think she finally left around 3 pm to head home by train. I asked Lilia if her mom knew what she did. She said heavens no! And that she tried not to flash too much money around her mom, lest she become suspicious. Get it while it's available and hot my friends! We never know when the latest pretty will just disappear from the scene!
But now Lilia, she's a poser. She stands in one place. And the tricks come to her! It was literally no work for her. She stands. Poses. Looks pretty. Guys come up. They go to the room. When at GT, she always stands at the same position. I'd say it is the area with most visibility and traffic. Basically anybody leaving locker rooms or reception area and entering the main lounge would walk past her. She seems to always be smiling and in a good mood. Inside the room as well.
I characterize her look as tomboyish. Usually she is wearing a headband or has her hair in a ponytail. I prefer the latter.
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She chooses the hairstyle that a female athlete would wear. Its practical for a WG like her who works so hard in the room that she is always sweating!
Lilia's BBBJ skills and stamina are 90th percentile. As you climax, her head continues to bounce up and down, at roughly the same speed, even after the last drop has been sucked out. Most other girls will slow up at the finish line. Or just stop moving their head and let the cum drizzle into their mouth.
The only negative is I think she gained some weight in the last year.
In the recent days, some girls from World, Oase, Mainhattan told me that they are considering to move to Artemis in Berlin just because it seems they will earn more in Berlin. Artemis has very few competitors in Berlin so obviously they are attracting many customers and bring a lot of business to the girls.Got names of girls? Well, Artemis is also a big tank, so being the biggest fish in the tank can be hard unless being top girl. More girls in average than sharks even. Even if sharks has rumored to have had more on few occations.
Funny thing about Artemis girls numbers is how they go up and down like sheep flocks. From maybe 80 in a week with few girls to over 150 lately for a busy messe week. And it goes up and down like that like a jojo. Then when lots of girls are on vacation a week and everyone is making money cus only 80-90 girls, they all call their friends 'come here now! Lots of guys!'. Next week it is maybe 160 and income is cut in half. Lol lots of girls alternate between for example GT or Sharks and Artemis also. And maybe to other clubs too...they try and hit the peaks at both places... in the past it was more alternation with palace and paradise. I think personally because of HA. But less now I think. At least with palace...
Add in girls from 3 other big hessen clubs to the mix, and maybe the jojo lineup at artemis goes from 90 to 200 soon. Lol
German Mariam over at World told me my dick was going to fall off when I informed her of my FKK travel plans LOL! Another nice report Cane. I'm in Art next week and will check her out for sure. Now my friend, you ready after your two week marathon to do a nice Club comparison report? Some possible sections:
1. Best service. 2. Best girl. 3. Best tits. 4. Best ass. 5. Best ambience in club. 6. Best food. 7. Best value for money. 8. Best rooms. 9. Best BBBJ. 10. Best FS provider. 11. Worst attitude 12. Worst club.
I could go on. Maybe we start a new annual "FKK Oscars" and you can be the first patron?
More seriously, travelling mangers find comparisons really useful. You write a good report so come on. Continue your excellent sharing of experiences with a comparisons report. Would be really good reading from someone who has been all over Germany doing this. Cheers.
Now my friend, you ready after your two week marathon to do a nice Club comparison report? Traveling mongers find comparisons really useful. Would be really good reading from someone who has been all over Germany doing this.First of all, it was nearly a three week marathon LOL! I just hit a wall at two weeks, but I sure the hell broke through that, hahaha! And second, I wlll do some kind of comparison, but it will be very, very brief. There are so many variables, and it's all so subjective.
Yes today more than 100 girls in this club. Waiting times door room. Girls making fast money. From 30 minutes. Girls giving from 10 to 15 minutes.
In the recent days, some girls from World, Oase, Mainhattan told me that they are considering to move to Artemis in Berlin just because it seems they will earn more in Berlin. Artemis has very few competitors in Berlin so obviously they are attracting many customers and bring a lot of business to the girls.If the girls want to earn more, then why not go to the clubs in Bavaria where the tutes seemed free to upsell and up-charge on everything with no obligation to negotiate or come down on price? At least in Hamburg I could get them to negotiate the total price for hour-long sessions, whereas it was more difficult (and therefore more expensive overall) in Bavaria to do that. So, why not Bavaria where they supposedly already have the no BBBJ rule (even though the Bavarian tutes still do it for an up charge fee)?
Hey,
Anyone knows if Cassandra (Turkey. 23 yo) is still around? Anyone see her recently?
Hessen Bub
02-25-17, 09:38
So, why not Bavaria where they supposedly already have the no BBBJ rule (even though the Bavarian tutes still do it for an up charge fee)?There's no extra fee for BBBJ at Colosseum, Hawaii, Heaven or Palmas.
HB.
There's no extra fee for BBBJ at Colosseum, Hawaii, Heaven or Palmas.
HB.I went to Hawaii but did not session or speak to any girls about prices at that club. Didn't see anything I liked and would not return unless I just happened to be in the area for something, which is highly unlikely in the future.
Hey,
Anyone knows if Cassandra (Turkey. 23 yo) is still around? Anyone see her recently?Yes. Ten characters needed.
There's no extra fee for BBBJ at Colosseum, Hawaii, Heaven or Palmas.
HB.So rule is not applied and BBBJ is standard there?
If the girls want to earn more, then why not go to the clubs in Bavaria where the tutes seemed free to upsell and up-charge on everything with no obligation to negotiate or come down on price? At least in Hamburg I could get them to negotiate the total price for hour-long sessions, whereas it was more difficult (and therefore more expensive overall) in Bavaria to do that. So, why not Bavaria where they supposedly already have the no BBBJ rule (even though the Bavarian tutes still do it for an up charge fee)?They go to Zurich where all are inclusive with higher set price, and Zurich is where we mongers will go as alternate destination if German FKK girls begin to charge for BBBJ after July.
Or we can goto Austria too.
At least we got solution for this BBBJ issue.
Personally I will goto Zurich as price will be same if they begin to up-sell in German FKK for BBBJ. Where as Zurich serviced in guaranteed by the club.
They go to Zurich where all are inclusive with higher set price, and Zurich is where we mongers will go as alternate destination if German FKK girls begin to charge for BBBJ after July. Or we can goto Austria too.All the girls won't be able to flock to Zurich, and especially Globe. Many simply can't consistently stand up to the pressure of providing consistently high service day in and day out. I think Austria is a more suitable destination for most.
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