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BKK Dreaming
08-23-11, 02:22
Gents, a quick question on safety tips: Is it safe to take taxi from Nana area to BKK around 4 am? What can I do to make this safer? I don't want to take avoidable risks or do stupid things. Any help or suggestion is appreciated. Thanks.
-DonIf you are talking about BKK Airport, not a problem, I ALWAYS get my hotel to get me a taxi that uses the meter, not one sitting like a Vulture out in front of my hotel, and I tip the driver 50-100 baht depending how much luggage I have,
NO traffic then but I pay for the expressway anyway, Total will be 300-400 baht with tip.
BK
Orange Crust
08-23-11, 05:47
Don't overthink this, just grab one that's available driving down the street that's marked and has it's lights on. You know with, either it's a hot pink taxi or yellow and green. Before jumping in, state where you want to go. He should give you a nod and jump in. Be sure he starts his meter and it should read 35 bt. At night, with no traffic, you would be hard pressed to have your meter go way beyond 100bt unless you are some obscene distance from nana. I've seen some private cars, even with a taxi light on top parked at the side of road. I wouldn't use them but know people who have. More expensive, more intended for tourist or day trip.Oh, damn. I didn't catch that, you mean Suvarnabhumi (BKK) , oops. Excuse me, whenever I see BKK, I just assume the city Bangkok. So at 4am, take a marked cab, you're safe. I won't pay for toll road though. At that time, you probably just as quick without. It won't break the bank if you take toll but unnecessary. Sorry about the confusion. Ah, the departure cab ride, for me that means I start to receive the "miss you already" SMS from my various babes. All the way until the plane starts to take-off.
me and a mate started at rainbow 1 on sunday. not really anything special there. one pretty girl was apparently booked by a customer for 5 days. the famous georgous aum (om) of recent pics fame in isg was definitely not there anymore. we moved on to mercury. very small and only one cutie. next was rainbow 4. definitely more talent there but mostly with fakish looks. a fair bit of silicone and weird hairstyles probably intended for the japanese customers. one girl really appealed. its very disappointing that only one or two girls got fully nude and had big bushes. los vegas suffered from having some show girls that didn't get their gear off, but one or 2 very hot and saucy looking girls. billboard was strange with a set of 6 prossibly **** girls doing the bubble bath show down one end, nude but using soap suds to cover the pussies. fantastic firm natural high tits on these kids. down the other end some shows and some gogo dancing by the set of mature girls (nothing exciting there). we decided to move to cowboy.
saturday night suzi wong had heaps of girls, but apparently many did not get customers so they were lazy to show up again on sunday. there were a couple of good girls i would have taken, but wanted to look some other bars. baccarat had a couple of girls i knew from before. i was very keen on a girl with big smiles and the most spectacular ass and thighs with nice gap i have been in a while. her skirt wan't hiding it all that well. anyway she seemed a bit preoccupied. i stood up to ask her in she was available or not available (in good thai). she didn't answer or want to look at my face.
the reason for no answer is something guys need to understand. in truth she was not bar-fined and therefore dancing and officially available. however she did not wish to say she was available. she also did not want to lie and say she was not available. so thai technique is to be silent and say nothing. i soon learned why when she got down she made a bee-line for two very young and handsome guys. she probably knew them already and was definitely intent on hooking one of them. maybe they were even boyfriend potential. she was so hot that i had little doubt she would win. them is the breaks. some girls go for old guys like me that treat them nicely, others are thrilled by someone more their own age.
we moved on to tilac. i don't reall get this bar. why would you have no knickers on but but wear stupid bras. anyway my mate found a girl he knew from before and so was taken. i met one ex baccarat girl there but no longer interested in her after her tit job. also an ex livingstone's girl there. i eventually picked a slim girl that looked different to the rest. turned out was her first day at tilac. drove her picup back to my hotel. then found out she had not had sex for two years. her pussy had shrunk to excessively tight. the uterus was prominet just about 4 inches in. to cut a the storey short sex was very difficult due to me being a bit longer than average and her pussy being far to small for me. i was crashing her uterus with each stroke and hard to get past it. some guys would love it this tight, but not me. i like a nice average sized fit.
Gents, a quick question on safety tips: Is it safe to take taxi from Nana area to BKK around 4 am? What can I do to make this safer? I don't want to take avoidable risks or do stupid things. Any help or suggestion is appreciated. Thanks.
-DonNana is close to a motorway entrance so the taxi driver might tell you to use it (but at 4am there is no traffic requiring so)
If you use it the tol lis on you (45+25B)
Offer him 300B including toll, up to him to use toll road or not, it will not change much for you.
You might want to accept a counteroffer of 400 seen the red-eye time of the night and cut the story short.
Silly negotiations of +-20B. Are just tiring.
This may well be THE ANSWER to the struggling economy in the USA and around the world!There is *only one* problem with this answer! Namely that too much of the money goes directly to the worker! The capitalist will not stand for it and will rather pay the minimum wage! Too, too bad.
Just calling BS on the picture; just like someone should have called BS on the recent 'Fake Tits Club' post early on.
SunLoverHmmm, interesting. I don't see it. The reason I asked your point is that it used to be when someone said 'photoshopped' it meant major alterations. Now all photo viewing software these days has 'photoshop' like features but mostuse it to adjust brightness, contrast, etc. And not major work.
Now this one is not much to look at now – almost freakish (apologies to the poster as I hate to criticize someone else's photos – please don't take it personally) and I can't begin to imagine what improvements have been made. Why do you think it is BS?
Hmmm, interesting. I don't see it. The reason I asked your point is that it used to be when someone said 'photoshopped' it meant major alterations. Now all photo viewing software these days has 'photoshop' like features but mostuse it to adjust brightness, contrast, etc. And not major work.
Now this one is not much to look at now – almost freakish (apologies to the poster as I hate to criticize someone else's photos – please don't take it personally) and I can't begin to imagine what improvements have been made. Why do you think it is BS?It looks to me like someone put a dudes head on the girls bod. That head is way to large for the body.
Either it is photoshopped or the photo of a freak.
About to return to BKK after a 3 year break and would like to relive one of my best experiences from my previous trip which was picking up a stunner in the Novotel Hotel disco near Siam Square. Is this place still going strong or are there better clubs to pickup stunners? I know the Hyatt is an option but its too far as I'm staying in the President Solitaire in Soi 11. I guess the bedsupper club has less girls available and I don't like hanging about in these places too long. Any other options for Hi-end mongering that I'm missing out on? Grateful for your thoughts.
Capitalized On
08-23-11, 23:14
after months of useless babbling chit-chat dialog on this forum i thought i
would (hopefully) add some useful new observations from a first timer to bkk.
[all prices are in baht- 30 baht to a dollar when i was there]
1) arriving at the airport for newbie's- don't let it intimidate you- walk
around like you know your way around the place. it is just like any airport
in usa, but somehow they can spot the new arrivals and will pester you for
rides.
so.
2) transportation.
you can get a limo to suhkumvit road for 1200 ($40). relaxed an no hassles.
take a meter cab there for about 400-500 ($12-$15. a steal by us taxi
standards)
or let them give you a set price (around 500 baht)
the common wisdom seems to be to demand they turn on the meter- but i think
that just guarantees they will get into heavy traffic on purpose, to add a
hundred baht or so onto the meter. so. you will still pay the same or
even a little more, but what is $3 bucks, us.vs- an hour sitting in
traffic. if you offer them a set amount it is in their interest to get you
there by the fastest route possible.
so offer them what you want to pay first.
general costs to offer:
about 500 baht from the airport to suhkumvit.
100 baht any place nearby (about 3 bucks)
200 baht for any small further distance.
the few times i took a meter cab it was always around 70 baht. so when i
started getting into the cab and saying i'll give you 100 baht to take me to
xxx i found we got there much, much faster.
they will be happy to take these amounts and get you there by the faster
back roads routes. avoiding incredible bangkok traffic jams.
tuk-tuks (open air small cab) are fun but they do charge double for
americans. still, about 50 to 80 baht to go quickly someplace close. you
can also hop onto the back of a motorcycle for about 30 baht.
if they make the price suggestion first, divide it by 2 and make them an
offer (i. e. they will ask for 1000 from the airport- tell them 500 and they
will usually accept.
try to ask for a cabbie that can speak english.
if you take a taxi from the hotel, make sure they speak english and give
them an address, in writing if possible- do not say "nightclub" or they will
take you to their favorite place (who usually gives them a payoff) do a
little homework and take a printed google map with you.
i got gypped for a ride to ayutthaya (sightseeing) for 1600 baht but i found
later i could have easily gotten there for half. i thought it was farther.
still, an hour in a us taxi would have been about $200us dollars (6000 baht)
-a word about renting a car or driving-
don't.
you won't know how.
they do not drive on the right side of the road, in every sense of that
word.
they zip in and out of traffic at full speed in formations tight enough to
make the air force thunderbirds jet pilots proud. with motorcycles zipping
in between.
just close your eyes and pretend it is not happening.
3) tipping.they are not used to it. a 20 baht note is usually more than
fine for anything.
50 baht if you want to be generous. i tipped 100 baht a few times and i
thought they were going to kneel down to thank me. when you change some
cash at the airport get a lot of 20's and 50's (baht). they will only give
you 100's unless you ask for change.
4) negotiating- they will always start at double- offer half then go from
there if you feel like it.
now for the important stuff.
5) [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s . go there 700baht plus tip (100 is fine) for no-nonsense walk
in the door get down to business fun.
lilly- was about an 8 on the relative thai looks scale but 10++++ for skills
and the most. perfect. bj. ever. i would pay this girl to give lessons to my
g / f if i could find a way to explain it to her without dying. it's
expected to cum in their mouth but it is still polite to ask. (just to hear
an enthusiastic "yes i want you to!" is worth it)
other cuties are way fun too, but no one matched her skill. i will fly back
there just to find lilly again.
lets not forget than an 8 on the thai scale would be about a 11 on the usa
streetwalker scale.
6) soi cowboy and nana plaza- these are both basically small side streets, packed with go-go bars.
lots of nice places to look at, gorgeous
girls. the ones out front will give you a sample of the tastes inside the
go-go places.
i loved one called "bachana's" (or something similar) i was sitting there
for 10 minutes before i realized everyone was looking up. there is a glass
ceiling with girls dancing on the 2nd floor above you wearing little or no underwear. heart
stopping views !
6) hotels-
manhattan hotel was great location. central location and relatively cheap
but they soak you for internet access. a lot. no free wifi, and it was 500
baht for 3 hours. don't forget to log off- shutting off your computer does
not sign you out.
manhattan hotel (and many others nearby- google it) are so central to the fun zones
that i walked to soi cowboy and nana plaza, easily. if you do want to take
a taxi down sukhumvit make sure to cross the street to the side with traffic
going the direction you want to go. the sky train is way cheaper (an
incredible 6 baht)
other hotels- be careful online they say they have airport pickup and then
don't. www.agoda.com was a great site for booking cheap rates but i made 2
complaints about places that pulled a bait-and-switch.
7) insomnia nightclub club after hours- omg ! not a go-go or strip bar-
but i walked in and was endlessly approached by gorgeous non-pro's, one of
whom was the most stunning girl ever to accompany me to a hotel after 5
minutes of necking on the floor followed by "come to my hotel?" and "ok"
(seriously. that was the sum total of my conversation before i f*cked her)
and this girl was about a 14 on the american girl regular scale (not the
streetwalker scale)
if you are not a gargoyle (lets face it folks they do actually have some
standards) you could get a freebie there any night. buthis was at 2 am when
the bars closed and i was too stupid to grab one girl from the go-go bars-
but ended up even luckier at insomnia.
but don't go there.they are all mine mine mine mine.
pro's and non-pro's are all over the streets after hours too. i was walking
around one evening about 3 am and stopped at a sidewalk stand to get a drink
of bacardi and coke (yes, a sidewalk bar) i bought 4 drinks for everyone
there (one each) for a total of 400 baht and 2 of the girls followed me home
and slept overnight.
8) it is way too easy to fall in love with these gorgeous angels. if all
girls in the world were like thai girls there would be peace and heaven on
earth.
i am already planning a trip back.
9) ladyboys are easier to spot then i was worried about- if you have any
gaydar at all.
it is just so. obvious. they are generally more dressed up like working girls
and way more aggressive too. do not let big boobs fool you- bolt-on surgery
works on guys too. an uninterested stare and polite but firm "no" is all it
takes to get rid of them.
same is true for anyone grabbing your hand or trying to entice you- a simple
stare and gentle wave and "no" is all you need.
guys- try not to give us americans a bad name- too many of you doof's were
walking around looking like you smelled and did not know what a shower was
for. lose some blubber and wear some good clothes- they will never judge
you but i am certain they will appreciate it, and you will have a much better time
fucking for hours and hours without giving yourself a coronary. these girls
shower all the time. (and also fuck you as many times as you want / can)
last- never never lose your temper- any argument i ever saw was followed by
both sides shrugging their shoulders and saying "up to you" (which seems to
be the end of any discussion or disagreement)
anger is considered to be the rudest of low-class rude there, and you will
'lose face' and get no help from anyone after you do. imagine farting
loudly in church while dunking your hand into the collection basket to grab
some loose change while in line for communion. that is how bad they see
anger there.
2) Transportation.
You can get a limo to Suhkumvit Road for 1200 ($40). Relaxed an no hassles.
Take a meter cab there for about 400-500 ($12-$15. A STEAL by US taxi
Standards)
Or let them give you a set price (around 500 baht) Its fortunate that you mention being a newbie since people should not take your advice with a grain of salt.
The real taxi price to Sukhumwit is way less than that. It's impossible to pay as much as 400 in metered taxi unless he circumnavigated Bangkok on the way there. Should be well under 250. I would suggest keeping to your experiences and reducing the "advice" part a little.
I will say you have experienced a lot in a short time.
Baccarat had a couple of girls I knew from before. I was very keen on a girl with big smiles and the most spectacular ass and thighs with nice gap I have seen in a while. Her skirt wan't hiding it all that well. Anyway she seemed a bit preoccupied. I stood up to ask her in she was available or not available (in good Thai). She didn't answer or want to look at my face.
The reason for no answer is something guys need to understand. In truth she was not bar-fined and therefore dancing and officially available. However she did not wish to say she was available. She also did not want to lie and say she was not available. So Thai technique is to be silent and say nothing. I soon learned why when she got down she made a bee-line for two very young and handsome guys. She probably knew them already and was definitely intent on hooking one of them. Maybe they were even boyfriend potential. She was so hot that I had little doubt she would win. Them is the breaks. Some girls go for old guys like me that treat them nicely, others are thrilled by someone more their own age.Last night found another girl with similar spectacular figure below the waist, high hips to waist ratio with nice "gap", smallish but nice natural tits (probably only As) and quite pretty face at Sheba's nude oil show. This time the girl was very keen to go with me, and had a fantastic session back at my Hotel as she was really willing to enjoy herself and service too. She was one of the girls who didn't look under-age and showed off her experience in the room. Price was not discussed so I payed based on the performance and duration. Was a little stunned to find out she was 29 but still an immaculate figure. Name omitted since I will probably be be keeping her busy. Not sure why many guys say bar-girls are crap performers. Its probably the too-young ones that more likely to be crap performers. Take an experienced hot looking girl!
Horny Landoora
08-24-11, 09:53
About to return to BKK after a 3 year break and would like to relive one of my best experiences from my previous trip which was picking up a stunner in the Novotel Hotel disco near Siam Square. Is this place still going strong or are there better clubs to pickup stunners? I know the Hyatt is an option but its too far as I'm staying in the President Solitaire in Soi 11. I guess the bedsupper club has less girls available and I don't like hanging about in these places too long. Any other options for Hi-end mongering that I'm missing out on? Grateful for your thoughts.You can surely try CM2 (Novotel) , Bossy Club, Insomnia, Spicy ETC. Bed is usually not having WGs but you may try your luck with Non WGs and Non Pros!
Cheers!
After months of useless babbling chit-chat dialog on this forum I thought I Would (hopefully) add some useful new observations from a first timer to BKK.
Thanks for your interesting and often funny (!) insights. First trip, first lessons. Some useful, some not.
Bangkok warmly welcomes people who throw money around with open arms. You seem to catch on quickly, but you're on a fairly steep learning curve if you've previously not been to the City of Angels. No worries, though, as it's only (your) money. By your 5th or 6th trip you may want to save a few baht. It's part of the Thai game to be smart with your money.
Without getting into the minutia of your trip report, I will say that your take on Bangkok taxis is not quite right. However, it takes more than one trip to figure this out, and a knowledge of the cityscape and speaking a little Thai helps a lot. There are many more accurate tips on Bangkok taxis on this forum, unfortunately they are not that easy to find. For example:
1) At the airport go to the top floor and catch a taxi that has just dropped someone off. Don't go with the first guy who is out of his cab barking for riders. Find one where the people are just getting out. Don't get in the cab, but tell the driver where you want to go, and say "meter?" Only take a meter taxi. Once underway, the driver will ask you, "motorway?" Say yes, as it's quicker (+ 70 baht). If you arrive in the later evening and are heading for Sukhumvit you can skip the motorway to save on the toll. The non-motorway trip to lower Sukhumvit should only cost +/- 200 baht.
2) Never take a taxi that is parked outside a hotel or attraction. These are the ones that charge more and often scam people.
3) Always ask "meter," before you get in a taxi? It is quite rare that a driver will purposely get stalled in traffic, or drive around, to add to the cost.
There's a lot more that I could add, but part of the fun of visiting Bangkok is figuring it all out.
Did you go to Pattaya? Chok dee! ;)
Orange Crust
08-24-11, 18:52
Last taxi comment from me. I'm often amazed of scams, and one of the best I saw was a taxi at BKK arrivals. So I get through the line and I get a taxi assigned. Everything is on the up and up you know marked cab from the right cue. Anyways, I get loaded and confirm destination. His meter was blank, almost like no power. So we start to move, and the meter is still dark. I begin to insist on meter but cabbie ignoring me. So he reaches over and hits a switch. Meter is on, fare is already at 85bt or something like that. Thai taxi meters include a window for elapsed waiting time. His was like already at 40 minutes or so. He ignores my protests of scam all the way to destination. I'm pissed because I know I paid like $3 too much (but I will spend that on a coffee. It's just principle.). We get to destination and he actually adjusts the fare downward. So I'm ok. I think what happened was really he scammed the taxi owner or company by keeping the meter black. It's like he had it running but the display LEDs were turned off. A first timer would have no idea. Anyways, I kinda laugh now, it the same concept of Cuban taxi drivers being able to turn off their odometers.
Final comment. I love BKK taxi's. Great price and most are clean. I once had a driver told me to be careful with a girl because he overheard the girl's conversation in Thai on her cellphone. After I dropped her off, he said becareful, girl say very bad things, he wouldn't elaborate but I played it safe. For a cabbie to be giving me a warning. It was either not flattering or it was something that may have been planned. Not worth the risk either way but why doubt him, it's not like offered me another girl. Oh yeah, and one other story. Got my 19 year old gf drunk one night (half my age) so we stumbled out of the bar - I think it was Bangkok Beat on Soi 7 or so. She tumbles into the cab, and passes out, I roll in beside her and bark out my destination. Shit, this guy had a police badge dangling from the rearview mirror. I could see him sizing me up with my all tramped out girl (she like to do it up for me). I was worried all the way back, I was getting those evil eyes and I was worried my girl would puke in his cab. Ended up being no problem, but in that 10 minute ride, many bad scenerios were racing through my mind how this could be one expensive ride.
Siam Dreamer
08-25-11, 01:03
high hips to waist ratio with nice "gap"I also look for that "feature" on a woman. A lot of guys don't notice it or it does nothing for them. But it's nice feature I love to see on the ladies also.
Thank you for the report.
Thanks for your interesting and often funny (!) insights. First trip, first lessons. Some useful, some not.
Bangkok warmly welcomes people who throw money around with open arms. You seem to catch on quickly, but you're on a fairly steep learning curve if you've previously not been to the City of Angels. No worries, though, as it's only (your) money. By your 5th or 6th trip you may want to save a few baht. It's part of the Thai game to be smart with your money.
Without getting into the minutia of your trip report, I will say that your take on Bangkok taxis is not quite right. However, it takes more than one trip to figure this out, and a knowledge of the cityscape and speaking a little Thai helps a lot. There are many more accurate tips on Bangkok taxis on this forum, unfortunately they are not that easy to find. For example:
1) At the airport go to the top floor and catch a taxi that has just dropped someone off. Don't go with the first guy who is out of his cab barking for riders. Find one where the people are just getting out. Don't get in the cab, but tell the driver where you want to go, and say "meter?" Only take a meter taxi. Once underway, the driver will ask you,"motorway?" Say yes, as it's quicker (+ 70 baht). If you arrive in the later evening and are heading for Sukhumvit you can skip the motorway to save on the toll. The non-motorway trip to lower Sukhumvit should only cost +- 200 baht.
2) Never take a taxi that is parked outside a hotel or attraction. These are the ones that charge more and often scam people.
3) Always ask "meter," before you get in a taxi? It is quite rare that a driver will purposely get stalled in traffic, or drive around, to add to the cost.
There's a lot more that I could add, but part of the fun of visiting Bangkok is figuring it all out.
Did you go to Pattaya? Chok dee! .Very good tips from the very experienced Fon Tok. One of those is amazingly important. Never waste your time talking to a taxi driver that has possibly been parked for some time. It is always going to go badly, virtually without exception. These drivers are rip off guys. I am sometimes amazed to see a Thai person actually ask them (and get knocked back of course). I don't bother to speak to them at all. Often they are looking only for certain destinations or shoppers and will always cost too much. Always grab a taxi just passing or just arrived dropping off other customers, as Fon Tok says! This applies to almost anywhere you catch a taxi, e.g. outside hotels, discos, bars, etc. Same applies to Tuk Tuks, however mostly forget about Tuk Tuks altogether. Only motorcycle rides should be taken from the standard parked area.
I too have experienced the very occasional circumnavigation of Bangkok with an extremely indirect route using fast flowing freeways, even though I speak Thai, and was carrying GPS and knew the correct route well. Everyone gets burned sometime. I was too busy chatting to the girl to pay attention to the route at first.
Dreams1973
08-26-11, 11:24
Hi,
I'll be next month in BKK for my first ime after having been many times in Cambodia.
Can you advise me wich is the right price for having fun with ladies in BKK? How much for ST and LT?
Thank you guys
Hi,
I'll be next month in BKK for my first ime after having been many times in Cambodia.
Can you advise me wich is the right price for having fun with ladies in BKK? How much for ST and LT?
Thank you guysI was surprised that someone with 26 posts was asking such a dumb question.
Then I looked at your other 25 posts. Now I understand.
My advice is to contribute a little and you will get a better response (even for dumb questions).
No doubt he is the same dude who posts ridiculous questions on another site. He has at least 3 accounts there.
Jed Wordsmith
08-27-11, 04:33
Thanks for your interesting and often funny (!) insights. First trip, first lessons. Some useful, some not.
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1) At the airport go to the top floor and catch a taxi that has just dropped someone off. Don't go with the first guy who is out of his cab barking for riders. Find one where the people are just getting out. Don't get in the cab, but tell the driver where you want to go, and say "meter?" Only take a meter taxi. Once underway, the driver will ask you,"motorway?" Say yes, as it's quicker (+ 70 baht). If you arrive in the later evening and are heading for Sukhumvit you can skip the motorway to save on the toll. The non-motorway trip to lower Sukhumvit should only cost +- 200 baht.Another airport taxi tip: if you take the expressway in to Bangkok, check the meter as the cab reaches the *first* toll booth. The fare should read around 141 Baht. (Sometimes 139 or 143 but rarely). If it's anything more than 141, the meter is rigged. Remember the distance is exactly the same every time, so the fare should be the same. Many of the taxis that work the 'official' taxi rank on the ground floor seem to have rigged meters these days. It's usually only +10% or 20% so most arriving passengers wouldn't notice.
Bar-fined a mature girl (clearly over 20) N1 in Sheba's (Soi Cowboy) , but the one with the hottest body below the waist (tits only A). Also enjoyed the shows (lesbian, oil, soap suds, etc.) and a very young looking one was the best dancer and quite cute, so bought her a drink or two also. Turned out both girls were close friends. N1 urged me to take the young one N2 also. Found out N2 was 18. I was given a guarantee that N2 was a fantastically good fuck. N1 and N2 had been together before. Eventually I agreed.
Wasn't disappointed. N2 had a slightly bigger build than N1 and perfect sized pussy for me. She relaxed and opended very wide. Both responded well to DATY but N2 may have faked it seeming to come rather too quick. Extremely enjoyable session. Its hard to beat the feeling of screwing one girl while the other is licking your balls, or BBBJ with same time ball-licking.
For duos, pick girls not too shy and interact with each other well, e. G. Lesbian show performers that also dance well are best bets.
I use N1 and N2 because most Thai girl names start with N. Nit, Noi, Nok, Ning, Noot, Nut, Nat, Nong, Nuan, Nan, Naam, Noon, Nom, etc.
No doubt he is the same dude who posts ridiculous questions on another site. He has at least 3 accounts there.Pl don't call him "dreams". The real one is. Me. Hopefully, more credible.
There are many fish balls in BK and I have been in many of them. Last time I was in BK, I was in a few bigg places, that was far from Sukomwit area. It was almost entirely Asian customers there. And the prices were relatively low. Does anyone have any favorite places where there are beautiful women on an equal footing with the more expensive places?
I am also very interested in Eastern European women. Does anyone have any phone numbers, and locations where these ladies is to share with me?
I am also interested in how EE ladies do business around the Pathaya.
Pl don't call him "dreams". The real one is. Me. Hopefully, more credible.OK, sorry man.
There are many fish balls in BK and I have been in many of them. Last time I was in BK, I was in a few bigg places, that was far from Sukomwit area. It was almost entirely Asian customers there. And the prices were relatively low. Does anyone have any favorite places where there are beautiful women on an equal footing with the more expensive places?
I am also very interested in Eastern European women. Does anyone have any phone numbers, and locations where these ladies is to share with me?
I am also interested in how EE ladies do business around the Pathaya."Fish Balls" :confused: I guess you mean "fish bowls".
Try the BKK Massage Thread.
For good East European women, try the Germany FKK thread.
Dreams1973
08-27-11, 14:36
No doubt he is the same dude who posts ridiculous questions on another site. He has at least 3 accounts there.Sorry but I never wrote on any other site. I don't know what are you telling. How I told in my former post I have been many times in Cambodia and I already posted my experience there (and also in madrid.). It is true I already asked some things about BKK bec I planned to go there last year but at the end I couldn't go and so now I am going for my first yime there. Sorry if somebody felt upset for my post but it wasn't my idea to hurt somebody. Surely iwill post my experience after my trip there.
Does anyone know a good soapie near Soi 3 Sukhumvit? I know, I know RTFF but give an old guy a break! .Cross the road and enter Soi 4, walk past Nana parking, keep on walking for 100 meters till, to your right there is an opening to a road access. Enter it, walk for 50 meters to the other end, watch at the last bar on the left with a red sign reading "Annie's Soap Massage". Step in one fly of stairs and a fishbowl is at your right with another room with sideline girls.
Mamasan will eventually help you I'm the choice.
What she might not tell you is that once in the room you have to strip naked.
Strongly recommended for a good soapie as it works better.
Does this help?
After months of useless babbling chit-chat dialog on this forum I thought I
Would (hopefully) add some useful new observations from a first timer to BKK...As a Bangkok resident let me just add my 2 cents. Paying more than 250 baht at just about any time of day to get to Sukhumvit from the airport is unnecessary. Paying 500 by Thai standards is absolutely ludicrous and just furthers the impression that all farangs are walking ATM's. You get a taxi, you tell him to turn on the meter, if he doesn't, you politely tell him to stop and you get another taxi, very simple. For a very short distance nearby, you will pay 40-50 baht, for 100 baht you can pretty much go halfway across Bangkok. I take meter taxis and 99. 9% of the time the guy knows the city and gets me to the destination as fast as possible. You don't get there faster by paying more.
And by the way. 99. 9% of the girls in Insomnia are pros. You may get one for free, but they are all pros nevertheless. Happy hunting.
Does anyone know a good soapie near Soi 3 Sukhumvit? I know, I know RTFF but give an old guy a break! .Annie's is right near there. I usually stay at JW Marriott (soi 2) and it is literally down the road.
Google for Annie's Bangkok.
As a Bangkok resident let me just add my 2 cents. Paying more than 250 baht at just about any time of day to get to Sukhumvit from the airport is unnecessary. Paying 500 by Thai standards is absolutely ludicrous and just furthers the impression that all farangs are walking ATM's. You get a taxi, you tell him to turn on the meter, if he doesn't, you politely tell him to stop and you get another taxi, very simple. For a very short distance nearby, you will pay 40-50 baht, for 100 baht you can pretty much go halfway across Bangkok. I take meter taxis and 99. 9% of the time the guy knows the city and gets me to the destination as fast as possible. You don't get there faster by paying more.If you are a BKK resident and speak some Thai, then this is probably correct. However as a newly arriving passenger fresh off the aeroplane this can be difficult. It's all very well telling him to stop and getting out, but you could be a few hundred metres down the freeway with your bags by then.
As has been said many times, probably the best deal is to go up to Departures and grab a cab that has just dropped a passenger. I always say '300Bht, expressway' and that gets me to my destination fine. Last time I requested 'meter', the driver was low on gas and asked if he could drive to a gas station nearby. I obviously agreed, but thought he would have the decency to turn off his meter, but this is Thailand. Couldn't be bothered to argue, but I did turn down his request for a tip at the end.
If you are a BKK resident and speak some Thai, then this is probably correct. However as a newly arriving passenger fresh off the aeroplane this can be difficult. It's all very well telling him to stop and getting out, but you could be a few hundred metres down the freeway with your bags by then.
As has been said many times, probably the best deal is to go up to Departures and grab a cab that has just dropped a passenger. I always say '300Bht, expressway' and that gets me to my destination fine. Last time I requested 'meter', the driver was low on gas and asked if he could drive to a gas station nearby. I obviously agreed, but thought he would have the decency to turn off his meter, but this is Thailand. Couldn't be bothered to argue, but I did turn down his request for a tip at the end.Actually the motorway from Airport to Asoke can be done quite quickly without using the expressway above. Much of the time, when not bad traffic jams, the underneath motorway is just as fast. Can end up paying 45 Baht above for a very short distance indeed. It depends which section of Suk you are heading for. If staying in very low Sois of Suk I would take the expressway. If in Sois around Phrom Pong, taking the expressway often won't help much. Give the driver a good tip instead for getting you there quickly. I have never actually experienced a bad traffic jam on the free motorway. Maybe just lucky.
You ideally should know which freeway entrances and exists are in the vicinity of your Hotel, for those occasions when traffic is bad, assuming freeway itself is not at a standstill. I sometimes have the taxi enter freeway off Rama 4 just because can get to that part quicker at the time.
To me, it is hit or miss either way.
From airport I have had them offer a flat 350-400B including tolls. A couple of times we hit bad traffic and that meter would have been 5-600 or more, since it took forever to get there.
If you want peace of mind, just make them turn on the meter.
Last time there was no traffic and it was 250 from Airport to Soi 11.
Bottom line: There are Taxi rip offs in tourist areas all over the world. None of us like it, but it is much worse in some Euro countries and even some of the US. Don't let a few bucks put you in a pissed off mood to start your trip.
Last taxi comment from me. I'm often amazed of scams, and one of the best I saw was a taxi at BKK arrivals. So I get through the line and I get a taxi assigned. Everything is on the up and up you know marked cab from the right cue. Anyways, I get loaded and confirm destination. His meter was blank, almost like no power. So we start to move, and the meter is still dark. I begin to insist on meter but cabbie ignoring me. So he reaches over and hits a switch. Meter is on, fare is already at 85bt or something like that. Thai taxi meters include a window for elapsed waiting time. His was like already at 40 minutes or so. He ignores my protests of scam all the way to destination. I'm pissed because I know I paid like $3 too much (but I will spend that on a coffee. It's just principle.). We get to destination and he actually adjusts the fare downward. So I'm ok. I think what happened was really he scammed the taxi owner or company by keeping the meter black. It's like he had it running but the display LEDs were turned off. A first timer would have no idea. Anyways, I kinda laugh now, it the same concept of Cuban taxi drivers being able to turn off their odometers.
Final comment. I love BKK taxi's. Great price and most are clean. I once had a driver told me to be careful with a girl because he overheard the girl's conversation in Thai on her cellphone. After I dropped her off, he said becareful, girl say very bad things, he wouldn't elaborate but I played it safe. For a cabbie to be giving me a warning. It was either not flattering or it was something that may have been planned. Not worth the risk either way but why doubt him, it's not like offered me another girl. Oh yeah, and one other story. Got my 19 year old gf drunk one night (half my age) so we stumbled out of the bar. I think it was Bangkok Beat on Soi 7 or so. She tumbles into the cab, and passes out, I roll in beside her and bark out my destination. Shit, this guy had a police badge dangling from the rearview mirror. I could see him sizing me up with my all tramped out girl (she like to do it up for me). I was worried all the way back, I was getting those evil eyes and I was worried my girl would puke in his cab. Ended up being no problem, but in that 10 minute ride, many bad scenerios were racing through my mind how this could be one expensive ride.While it is entirely possible that the meter was rigged, it may also have simply been the 35 Baht starting rate plus the 50 Baht fee for starting at the airport. This is common in many countries but I have not seen it in Thailand.
I had her long-time about six months ago. Can't remember what I paid, would have been either 1500 or 2000. The photo doesn't do her justice, she's really sweet.I know better than to feed the trolls, but I'll follow up anyway.
The photo of New from Afterskool is real. I shot it using available light and touched it up a bit using Microsoft Office Picture Manager. But it's definitely her. As Mr. Rocksoff notes, it doesn't do her justice. Out of her clothes New has a slim, toned body and very nice tits. In bed she gives a great BBBJ and fucked my lights out in several positions. When I couldn't take it anymore, New perched her tight little ass on the ottoman and blew me bareback while looking up into my eyes and playing with my balls until I launched a big load of cum all over her face.
From the bar to the hotel and throughout the session, New was playful and relaxed and generally fun to hang around with. And that, gentlemen, is a combination that's rare among the bar girls on Soi Cowboy.
Here's another photo of her, this one taken with flash.
Bunky
While it is entirely possible that the meter was rigged, it may also have simply been the 35 Baht starting rate plus the 50 Baht fee for starting at the airport. This is common in many countries but I have not seen it in Thailand.If I well recall the 50 Baht airport fee (by the way it is clearly NOT compulsory as said in the airporto authority ordnance. But always charged, on the assumpotion one takes the service of the people writing yr destination on a slip) is NOT metered.
The 25 Baht starting rate IS metered
Hello, There
It has been a few years since I posted hear and I have noticed how the format of the forum has changed.
I am looking for a list of bars for Bangkok.
Can anyone please supply me a link to somewhere on this forum where I can find them and maybe with a guide price.
Thanks
To me, it is hit or miss either way.
From airport I have had them offer a flat 350-400B including tolls. A couple of times we hit bad traffic and that meter would have been 5-600 or more, since it took forever to get there.
If you want peace of mind, just make them turn on the meter.
Last time there was no traffic and it was 250 from Airport to Soi 11.
Bottom line: There are Taxi rip offs in tourist areas all over the world. None of us like it, but it is much worse in some Euro countries and even some of the US. Don't let a few bucks put you in a pissed off mood to start your trip.When they offer 350-400 its not going to be a bargain. They will probably avoid the tollway. If catch the taxi upstairs that has just dropped off customers, you avoid the 50 Baht surcharge, and also driver will be so happy to get another customer immediately, that he will be more than happy to agree to the meter rather than a long wait.
5-600 Baht is just speculation. Never ever costs even close to that. Maybe I arrive at the right time of day, but it never takes me forever to get there either, given a sensible route. Lat time arrived midday on Saturday and no problem. If you were to leave airport at 7 to 8AM on a working day, I appreciate that it may be bad. Fortunately my planes usually arrive earlier than that before very heavy traffic gets going. In that case (7-8AM) the sky link may be worth while.
Thanks, Dr. P. Did you see any busty ones in there? .Saw a girl or two with big naturals at Sheba last night. Not sure if were Ds or just Big Cs. But very beautifully shaped and a cute face to go with it. I generally go for the more racey slimmer girls so I didn't try her but was tempting. Sheba has all sizes of body and tits but only a couple of silicone jobs. Shows start around 10:30PM.
Right now the girls in this bar do more for me than any bar in Nana. Helps that some of them get totally nude with well trimmed pussy too.
I think there is too much of the fake looks in Nana bars, whether silicone, nose jobs, strange hairdos, etc. Possibly for the Japanese audience. Rainbow 4 is a good example. Will admit Rainbow 2 had a couple of real pretty girls but they were taken very quickly real early.
If I well recall the 50 Baht airport fee (by the way it is clearly NOT compulsory as said in the airporto authority ordnance. But always charged, on the assumpotion one takes the service of the people writing yr destination on a slip) is NOT metered.
The 25 Baht starting rate IS meteredThere are many scams regarding the taxis. BTW the starting rate was 35 B when I was last there. I had one time a taxi where the meter spun faster than the car wheels. It was 600 B when I reached Suk. I just paid him 300 and told him to call the police if he wanted more. He left. Another one, the guy wanted to fill up his tank. Took him over 2-3 miles (out of the way) to find one. And he kept that on the meter. Also, I have noticed that the 50 B surcharge is not always collected.
When they offer 350-400 its not going to be a bargain. They will probably avoid the tollway. If catch the taxi upstairs that has just dropped off customers, you avoid the 50 Baht surcharge, and also driver will be so happy to get another customer immediately, that he will be more than happy to agree to the meter rather than a long wait.
5-600 Baht is just speculation. Never ever costs even close to that. Maybe I arrive at the right time of day, but it never takes me forever to get there either, given a sensible route. Lat time arrived midday on Saturday and no problem. If you were to leave airport at 7 to 8AM on a working day, I appreciate that it may be bad. Fortunately my planes usually arrive earlier than that before very heavy traffic gets going. In that case (7-8AM) the sky link may be worth while.I stated 350-400 including tolls. If there is an accident on the toll toad (which happened to me) it took twice as long and the fee could have been 500-600. Not speculation, but fact based upon the time and meter rates.
If they offer 350 including tolls, that is not a terrible rate. If it is that important to think you are going to save a buck, do it your way.
I had major fun during my short stay in Bangkok this past weekend (reports to follow). However, the downer was that Insomnia was closed on Saturday night. I went there after making rounds in Nana plaza with the intention of ending my night at Insomnia (and maybe picking up a stunner there). But that wasn't meant to be. I was told that the closure is permanent (for now) and was a result of the new political bodies in Thailand (and Bangkok). Such a shame!
After months of useless babbling chit-chat dialog on this forum I thought I
7) Insomnia nightclub club after hours- OMG! NOT a go-go or strip bar-
There are many scams regarding the taxis. BTW the starting rate was 35 B when I was last there. I had one time a taxi where the meter spun faster than the car wheels. It was 600 B when I reached Suk. I just paid him 300 and told him to call the police if he wanted more. He left. Another one, the guy wanted to fill up his tank. Took him over 2-3 miles (out of the way) to find one. And he kept that on the meter. Also, I have noticed that the 50 B surcharge is not always collected.I took once a taxi from departure and he was ok to go by the meter.
After some 2/300 he tried to activate the meter but this did not move.
I started to feel nervous as I was anticipating a cheating that I would have blocked as I knew "my rate" to Suk 33.
I tried a couple of times more, feeling sorry for the meter that did not work.
We went through the toll gates, that I paid.
When we arrived at destination he asked me the usual fee, spot on! I added a 50 Baht tip to prize his honesty: the meter really did not work!
lollipop is new bj bar in suk soi 10 about 20 metres in turn to the left. tuk (famous from sol) is a co-owner manager as she has retired from active duty it seems. quite a few ladies, but not that pretty of course. the only ones i fancied at all were busy, but i am very picky. full sex available too. no idea which girls have skills similar to tuk. not sure how compares to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) overall, but the place looks classy.
I stated 350-400 including tolls. If there is an accident on the toll toad (which happened to me) it took twice as long and the fee could have been 500-600. Not speculation, but fact based upon the time and meter rates.
If they offer 350 including tolls, that is not a terrible rate. If it is that important to think you are going to save a buck, do it your way.
350-400 is a price that allows the taxi to make some extra profit. He may avoid the toll gates to boost his profit. I prefer to pay tolls separately when needed. He then gets 250 Baht or use the meter. Perhaps 350 is close to the mark including 70 Baht tolls and airport surcharge of 50.
Okay I did not allow for the most extraordinary of circumstances. I have not experienced totals in that realm even with delays.
"Could have been", and "fact" are somewhat self contradictory expressions. I can see however, that if you know the exact flag fall, rate per minute when stationery and rate per km, you could calculate it. So what are these rates currently? Perhaps you could show a calculation and how much wasted time was required to rack up such a high total. Then we could accept it as virtually fact.
I am not sure exactly, but I know the price per stationery minute is actually quite low. The taxis always complain about that one and how little they make when stuck in traffic jam.
There are many scams regarding the taxis. BTW the starting rate was 35 B when I was last there. I had one time a taxi where the meter spun faster than the car wheels. It was 600 B when I reached Suk. I just paid him 300 and told him to call the police if he wanted more. He left. Another one, the guy wanted to fill up his tank. Took him over 2-3 miles (out of the way) to find one. And he kept that on the meter. Also, I have noticed that the 50 B surcharge is not always collected.2 that I've come across. The first was a driver who didn't turn on the meter until prompted to and then the damn thing had both the time and distance counters going. Double-dipping was bad enough. No way was I going to become the third dip. I knew the correct fare and paid it pointing to his faulty meter. He gave a dumb-shit smile and accepted the money.
The second and far slicker is what I call the Happy Idiot Driver. This guy was older and was taking me over the river by way of one of the Bhumibol bridges. The key is you have to turn off midway and he didn't. Oh silly him! He missed the turn. All the way to the end of the bridge and eventually find a you-turn. Silly him missed quite a few turns since silly him didn't know the fuck where he was going even though he said he did. Truly a masterpiece of acting the Idiot, really. I ended up paying the inflated fare just because he took the Art of Idiocy to an amazing level. Sometimes you have to be impressed.
350-400 is a price that allows the taxi to make some extra profit. He may avoid the toll gates to boost his profit. I prefer to pay tolls separately when needed. He then gets 250 Baht or use the meter. Perhaps 350 is close to the mark including 70 Baht tolls and airport surcharge of 50.
Okay I did not allow for the most extraordinary of circumstances. I have not experienced totals in that realm even with delays.
"Could have been", and "fact" are somewhat self contradictory expressions. I can see however, that if you know the exact flag fall, rate per minute when stationery and rate per km, you could calculate it. So what are these rates currently? Perhaps you could show a calculation and how much wasted time was required to rack up such a high total. Then we could accept it as virtually fact.
I am not sure exactly, but I know the price per stationery minute is actually quite low. The taxis always complain about that one and how little they make when stuck in traffic jam.Here are the fares (http://www.bangkokguidebook.com/meter-taxis/) :
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"Fare Rates.
0-2 kilometre. 35 baht.
2-12 kilometre. 4.5 baht per km
12-20 kilometre. 5 baht per km.
Over 20 kilometre. 5.5 baht per km
If the taxis is stuck in a traffic jam and cannot move faster then 6 kph, there is an extra charge of 1. 25 baht per minute.
If you caught the taxi inside the airport then there is a 50 baht surcharge. If you dialed 1584 or 02 725 460 to call a taxi then there is a surcharge of 20 baht. In all cases, the passenger is expected to pay any toll-way fees."
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Distance from Airport to Soi Nana is just under 30km (I got that measured by Google Maps Directions feature). Tolls 70 I guess and airport Surcharge 50 (can be avoided). Its also a little less distance if you stay around Asoke or Soi 33 for example. I often avoid both the surcharge and the Tolls as motorway underneath is very good if going to higher Sois in Suk.
70 + 50 + 35 (first 2km) + 45 (next 10 km) + 40 (next 8 km) + 55 (last 10 km) = 295 Baht (remember can be less if avoid the 50 Baht surcharge and / or the tollways)
How much stationery time would be needed to rack up 500 Baht? And 600 Baht?
(500-295) /1. 25 = 164 mins stopped (thats nearly 3 hours extra above the fast trip time of 30 mins e.g. At 3AM)
(600-295) /1. 25 = 244 mins (i.e. plus 4 hours)
Now we are starting to talk facts unless I goofed the calculations.
Here are the fares (
http://www.bangkokguidebook.com/meter-taxis/
) :
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"Fare Rates.
0-2 kilometre. 35 baht.
2-12 kilometre. 4.5 baht per km
12-20 kilometre. 5 baht per km.
Over 20 kilometre. 5.5 baht per km
If the taxis is stuck in a traffic jam and cannot move faster then 6 kph, there is an extra charge of 1. 25 baht per minute.
If you caught the taxi inside the airport then there is a 50 baht surcharge. If you dialed 1584 or 02 725 460 to call a taxi then there is a surcharge of 20 baht. In all cases, the passenger is expected to pay any toll-way fees."
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Distance from Airport to Soi Nana is just under 30km (I got that measured by Google Maps Directions feature). Tolls 70 I guess and airport Surcharge 50 (can be avoided). Its also a little less distance if you stay around Asoke or Soi 33 for example. I often avoid both the surcharge and the Tolls as motorway underneath is very good if going to higher Sois in Suk.
70 + 50 + 35 (first 2km) + 45 (next 10 km) + 40 (next 8 km) + 55 (last 10 km) = 295 Baht (remember can be less if avoid the 50 Baht surcharge and / or the tollways)
How much stationery time would be needed to rack up 500 Baht? And 600 Baht?
(500-295) /1. 25 = 164 mins stopped (thats nearly 3 hours extra above the fast trip time of 30 mins e. G. At 3AM)
(600-295) /1. 25 = 244 mins (I. E. Plus 4 hours)
Now we are starting to talk facts unless I goofed the calculations.I am laughing, but thank you for all your hard work on that. I am not a math wiz, but it looks pretty good.
"If we take Degan's number of 1/2000, and use 10% infection in the target group (and that is probably too large, but we'll go with it) , we arrive at 13, 862. 6 sexual encounters to have a 50% probability of infection. That's a different partner every single day for about 38 years, and then it is only even money you are infected."Not seeing where you got this figure from. Isn't that for HIV subtype B anyways? It seems HIV subtype E is closer to 1 in 30 or 1 in 60.
Also, the 13, 862 figure seems strange when 1/2000 * 10% = 1 in 20, 000. Seems like the 50% point would be at 10, 000 encounters instead.
my third time in thailand, and also my third in bangkok.
i was actually supposed to go on holiday in the dr with a buddy, but as he became unavailable at the last moment, i opted instead to return to the los: 3 days in bangkok and 6 in pattaya.
all opinions and comments obviously reflect and are the result of:
1- me being a tourist in town for a few days only
2- my own body type preferences: slim and leggy girls for sure; tall, no silicone and under 30 if possible.
lollipop 1
not to be confused with the lollipop gogo in nana entertainment plaza, it is impossible to miss: as soon as you turn into soi 10 from sukhumvit you’ll notice the standing sign. check my pic below for reference.
my first ever “bj bar” experience was at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in 2008: back then i refused an older lady to select a younger, better looking girl, only to find out that the bj itself, while satisfactory, wasn’t anything special at all.
for this reason this time i approached lollipop 1 with the firm intention of selecting what appeared to be a more experienced provider, regardless of looks, hoping her technique would be better.
joy, from some place in isaan close to cambodia, fit the bill.
her suction and hand skills were quite good, but her looks so poor that i had to close my eyes and think of someone else.
so, does it make sense to use one precious orgasm for this kind of quality/service? ymmv, but the answer in my case is no. as a sexual tourist, i don’t think i will visit these kind of venues again in the future, unless an attractive girl comes highly recommended.
of course i would probably have a different opinion if i lived and worked in bangkok and needed to use these places for an extremely quick stress release.
700 for service + 260 for 2 drinks + 40 for tip = 1.000 baht
finally, while fully aware that prices and breadth of services cannot be compared, if you want to experience a first class job with deep-throat action and cim, some of the girls at places like mango and tulip will offer you a demonstration of what a professional bj really is.
hana massage/rin and mango massage/cherry
hana/rin
rin has many fans in this forum, and since i never had a balls massage before, i felt i should try her services.
hana massage is located in a side alley along soi 22, about a 5/6 minute walk from sukhumvit on the left side, almost opposite the mercure hotel.
even by the often low bangkok standards, this parlor may induce you to do a quick about face:
- as you can see in my pic below, the alley is very nondescript and poor looking.
- as i approached the shop a mangy dog, who rin was tending to, started barking at me.
- rin as reported is not young, difficult to tell, could be 40 to 60 years old.
- i wasn’t offered a drink or anything.
- the room where the massage took place was extremely small and cramped.
but then rin starts, and by the time she’s finished your legs have turned into jelly, for just 1.000 baht all inclusive. it may not be something i’d want to do regularly, but this was definitely a hand-job from heaven.
funny bit: upon asking, rin explained that it was an old white guy who taught her!
mango/cherry
it seemed that cherry could do no wrong, all her reviews were good and i think one of our brothers even wrote an ode to her. i had to try this girl.
i can now tell from first-hand experience: my best p4p ever.
once or twice i have had better pornstar-3-holes-sex, i have had other pretty good gfes, but no one had so far ever be able to mix and blend both ingredients in such a seamless way. add to it that she’s quite good looking and tall for a thai woman, and you start to get the picture.
of course everyone is different and you may be disappointed or underwhelmed, but i think this girl simply has great sex skills and a gift for interacting with men in bed.
i actually had 2 sessions with her, one in-house at mango and the other “take-out” at my hotel.
i wish to all the same level of satisfaction, and i wish cherry the very best.
gogos
my previous two times in bangkok i limited myself to soi cowboy and did not visit nana plaza, which with all the grabbing and the ladyboys around gave me the impression of being a bit too hardcore and tourist oriented. this time around i booked my hotel in the nana area with the intention of skipping soi cowboy altogether.
angelwitch:
nice shows but very average girls.
las vegas:
i remembered a piece on the stickman about the opening of this gogo, and got in looking for a good show, which in fact proved to be pretty good, with five girls doing choreographed dances and the likes. the manager (a short guy with dyed hair, a suit and a crazy look) told me they could not be barfined, while the mamasan told me they could be barfined but only at closing time.
as for the other girls, they were average, with a couple of 18 year olds fresh form the village, one of which i selected for the night.
being a new place, in relative gogo terms the toilets were fantastic.
lollipop:
when i got in at half past midnight there were only 4 girls dancing on stage.
papasan was dressed like one of those deranged yakuzas in the takashi miike movies.
rainbow 3:
few customers, average girls, a lower than usual dancing stage.
met a girl who i saw last august in a gogo in samui, and barfined her: she asked for 2.000 / 4.000, i countered with 1.000 / 2.000, and got the deal done halfway.
rainbow 4:
plenty of girls, no fatties, no oldies, the best average quality, but they mostly looked bored and their dancing was limited to a stiff shuffling of the feet.
it seemed that on one of the two stages ladies always kept their bra on.
also:
- gogos at the ground floor seemed the worst
- less tattoos compared to cowboy and pattaya
- plenty of scavenging kittens around, but no full grown cats: do they get eaten by the locals?
bangkok gogos vs pattaya gogos
(obviously a generalization, and i have never been to patpong)
pattaya gogos are in my opinion a lot better and more customer friendly, for a series of reasons:
- while in pattaya the dancers move up and down the length of the stage, in bangkok they mostly stand still, making it difficult to evaluate some of them from your own distant seat.
- while in pattaya the prettiest dancers actually make some sexy dance/moves, in bangkok the prettiest ones can’t be bothered to move their hips.
- while in pattaya girls do make an effort to look in your direction and smile or attract your attention, in bangkok they mostly look at themselves in the mirror.
- finally, and this i believe is mostly due to the customers, in the pattaya gogos there’s a different energy, a sense of wild and free spirited fun which the bangkok venues totally lack.
bangkok gogos: convenient or not?
since quite recently a debate raged on this thread about the convenience or lack thereof of gogos vs other kinds of establishment, i will offer my humble take, aimed strictly at those of us on a quick bangkok visit.
1- the best gogos are always worth a visit, even if simply to check out some good looking birds. if you want to be able to see exactly what you’re getting, and/or if you value looks over everything else and it’s past 11pm, read no further.
2- visiting a gogo with someone else can be fun, but gogos visited by yourself could make you feel a bit sad/lonely.
3- in the bangkok p4p scene, gogos offer a good bang for buck ratio only when you go long time in your hotel. if you go short time keep in mind that a take-out sex freak from an oily shop like mango would cost you the same or probably less, and the sex be infinitely more rewarding.
4- to lower as much as possible the possibility of a poor experience, talk to the mamasan before you finalize your selection.
hotel
the dynasty grande is located in the nana area between soi 4 and soi 6, about a 3 minute walk both from nana plaza and nana bts station, making it close to the action and transport and yet far enough to result very quiet.
there’s a 7-eleven in the next building and an atm just outside the lobby.
they take and keep the girl’s id card until she leaves.
http://www.dynastygrande.com/index.htm
restaurants
for those who need a break from the spiciness of thai food: in the back alley on the left at the beginning of soi 11, among the various eateries, there’s a spanish tapas bar, simply called tapas cafè, which does its job pretty well.
http://www.tapasiarestaurants.com/
obviously quite expensive, but the night view from the sky bar and restaurant at the 63rd floor of the state tower in silom really is something.
http://www.lebua.com/en/the-dome-dining/sky-bar-bangkok/
random tidbits and observations
i read on this thread that the eden club was going downhill: while i did not enter i can say that on two separate strolls up and down the soi, one in the late afternoon and the other in the early evening, from the outside the place looked dead.
along soi 22, on the right side if coming from sukhumvit, there’s a cluster of beer-bars called queens park plaza: drinks are cheap and there were at least a couple of very pretty girls.
during my bangkok stay i read the mystery novel “a nail through the heart”, which is set there and deals a bit with the life of street urchins. and there are a lot along sukhumvit.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061257222
if you’d like to invest some time in regular girls who speak decent english, there are a few cute ones at the jim thompson house museum.
while at 6pm the queues made bts asok station impossible to manage, siam was relatively calm despite the crowds at siam paragon.
for a good thrill, take a moto-taxi during rush hour along sukhumvit: it will feel like you’re shooting an action movie chase sequence.
thanks as always to all those who contribute to the forum,
ryo
Not seeing where you got this figure from. Isn't that for HIV subtype B anyways? It seems HIV subtype E is closer to 1 in 30 or 1 in 60.
Also, the 13, 862 figure seems strange when 1/2000 * 10% = 1 in 20, 000. Seems like the 50% point would be at 10, 000 encounters instead.The "figure" quoted was not mine but from the person quoted. I have no idea how he arrived at that number, though even at 10, 000 encounters that is over 27 years of BB sex every day with only a 50% chance of HIV infection.
I have read the 1 in 2000 figure is from a study or studies re the B type. This amount is found at the link I already provided.
My post {number 15046 from August 19 of this thread} disagreed with your numbers and explained why. BTW the same post, from the same date, was also copied onto the Safe Sex in Thailand thread at the request of the moderator.
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1191952]My third time in Thailand, and also my third in Bangkok.
IThanks as always to all those who contribute to the forum,
Ryo[/QUOTE.
This is a great report, simple and comprehensive.
Well done by someone to link it on report of distinctions.
Hope the newbies read it for good
My third time in Thailand, and also my third in Bangkok.
RANDOM TIDBITS AND OBSERVATIONS.
I read on this thread that the Eden Club Was going downhill: while I did not enter I can say that on two separate strolls up and down the soi, one in the late afternoon and the other in the early evening, from the outside the place looked dead.Great report.
Regarding Eden Club, this could simply reflect that the girls are all inside: either working or more likely in a line-up. I haven't been there for a while, but I walked past recently (I always go to the massage place next door) and I was surprised to be impressed by the quality of the girls at first glance.
Sometimes the short way to the airport is not the quickest. If you were staying in Suk Soi 22 for example, it could be that getting to Rama IX expressway could take a very long time in traffic jam with heavy rain. The other option, is to get on freeway is at Khlong Toei off Rama 4. Then head off on the Bang Na. Chonburi expressway and enter the airport the back way. Its a longer distance (over 40 km) and cost me 270 Baht on the meter, but was quick as did not experience traffic jams on the way to freeway and freeway was fairly empty (unlike Rama 9 freeway).
At 8:50PM I was still watching the football in Hotel lobby. Quickly packed the bags, checked out of Hotel, caught the taxi to airport (2 toll booths) , checked in airport, passed Immigration (moderately busy) by 10:10PM. Forgot to actually time the taxi ride.
Malcolm Fraser
08-31-11, 00:51
Sometimes the short way to the airport is not the quickest. If you were staying in Suk Soi 22 for example, it could be that getting to Rama IX expressway could take a very long time in traffic jam with heavy rain. The other option, is to get on freeway is at Khlong Toei off Rama 4. Then head off on the Bang Na. Chonburi expressway and enter the airport the back way. Its a longer distance (over 40 km) and cost me 270 Baht on the meter, but was quick as did not experience traffic jams on the way to freeway and freeway was fairly empty (unlike Rama 9 freeway).Thank you for this information Syzygies. Last time I left the Davis Hotel Tuesday night at 6:00pm peak hour for an 8:30pm flight the taxi took me this way but I didn't know the name of the freeway. Now I will be able to ask to go this way all the time. BTW, leaving at 6:00pm it took about 10 minutes in very heavy traffic to get from the Davis to the freeway then 25 minutes in light traffic to the airport. I paid 400 Baht including tolls.
I am in Bangkok for today and tomorrow.
If anyone is around we get can together
Not seeing where you got this figure from. Isn't that for HIV subtype B anyways? It seems HIV subtype E is closer to 1 in 30 or 1 in 60.
Also, the 13, 862 figure seems strange when 1/2000 * 10% = 1 in 20, 000. Seems like the 50% point would be at 10, 000 encounters instead.Just briefly, the math works like this. Each occurrence has a chance, let's say, of 1/20, 000. If, let's say instead for example / illustration, each occurrence had a chance of 1/2, that would NOT mean that after 2 times you would have a 100% chance of contracting. The way probabilities are calculate is as follows:
1 minus ("the chance of NOT being infected" raised to the power of "number of occurrences") [note: when I put in the mathematical notation the formatting got messed up, so I'm writing it all out instead]
So, the odds of getting infected based on the odds of 50/50 (1 in 2) , look like this (column 1 = occurrence, column 2 = probability)
1 50%
2 75%
3 88%
4 94%
5 97%
6 98%
Etc.
At 1/20, 000 (a number I have NO idea whether is accurate or not) , they look like this:
100 0. 5%
1000 5%
5000 22%
10000 39%
20000 63%
Etc.
BTW, this completely disregards certain important realities, like whether either person is infected with (or is in the process of being infected with) other STDs, which GREATLY increases the odds of contracting HIV in any single occurrence.
In any case, odds should not be what drives behavior here. It is possible to get infected on a single occurrence (the first one). Furthermore, behavior is what spreads this disease, not "odds."
All the best,
-B-
Good factual report.
BANGKOK GOGOs VS PATTAYA GOGOs
(obviously a generalization, and I have never been to Patpong)
Pattaya gogos are in my opinion a lot better and more customer friendly, for a series of reasons:
- while in Pattaya the dancers move up and down the length of the stage, in Bangkok they mostly stand still, making it difficult to evaluate some of them from your own distant seat.
- while in Pattaya the prettiest dancers actually make some sexy dance / moves, in Bangkok the prettiest ones can't be bothered to move their hips.
- while in Pattaya girls do make an effort to look in your direction and smile or attract your attention, in Bangkok they mostly look at themselves in the mirror.
- finally, and this I believe is mostly due to the customers, in the Pattaya gogos there's a different energy, a sense of wild and free spirited fun which the Bangkok venues totally lack.Patpong gogos can be fun in a freakshow kind of way, as long as you really know what you want. Very pushy for drinks, lots of ladyboys.
Some Bangkok gogos do have good dancers part of the evening, e. G. Long Gun and Rawhide in Cowboy. The worst bars are the flashy ones like Tilac, Midnight, Deja Vu. There are cute girls, but the fun factor really isn't there. Maybe the drinks are expensive enough that they don't have to hustle. I have heard from guys who get lucky there, hit it off with a girl that suits them and meet her multiple times. But I usually curse myself if I let myself be suckered into buying a drink for a pretty girl who turns wooden as soon as she sits down.
When we arrived at destination he asked me the usual fee, spot on! I added a 50 Baht tip to prize his honesty: the meter really did not work!Possibly it did, but he gets to keep the money (don't need to give the taxi company a cut).
Good report.
Not to be confused with the Lollipop gogo in Nana Entertainment Plaza, it is
Impossible to miss: as soon as U-turn into soi 10 from Sukhumvit you'll...[/QUOTE]Why?
PS.
Is there a specil place in the city centre where all the action takes place?
All bars and discos are closed.
One place is open. Can't describe the location (taxi drivers know it)
Name is Honey.
Behine a simple dooor there are 50+ women sitting in two rows.
Papason asked for 3500 agreed to 2500.
Was not able to find one that I liked so left.
Went to Nana hotel parking.
As always a lot of freelancers.
One approched me with a smile and decent english.
We had a noodle soup and headed to my hotel.
Shower and mish.
Overall . Nothing special.
Gave her 2000 and sent her out after a hour
All bars and discos are closed.
One place is open. Can't describe the location (taxi drivers know it)
Name is Honey.
Behine a simple dooor there are 50+ women sitting in two rows.
Papason asked for 3500 agreed to 2500.
Was not able to find one that I liked so left.
Went to Nana hotel parking.
As always a lot of freelancers.
One approched me with a smile and decent english.
We had a noodle soup and headed to my hotel.
Shower and mish.
Overall. Nothing special.
Gave her 2000 and sent her out after a hourJust for info, the going rate for those Nana girls is 1k. You paid double for "nothing special".
I was in the mood to go to some 'high-class place' and so hit Spasso a month or so back. Great looking girls who can speak English. Like some of the punters mentioned, they are not your 19-20 yr olds but girls in their late 20's and early 30's.
The place is known for their cocktails. Around 350bht but closer to 400 after taxes etc. Not much to write home about IMHO though.
Chatted with a girl who showed me eyes. She was a mother of two and wanted 6000 down to 5000 and finally 4, 500. We parted as friends.
Saw another lovely with a short skirt and top who I finally negotiated down to 4000. She then went to talk to someone about the deal and did not return for some time. That's when I chanced upon a tall, beautiful girl. I asked her if she wants to come for 4000. After consulting with her friend she agreed. Stupid taxi drivers wanted 70bht for a 50 bht ride but I gave in.
The girl is Amm, from Isaan. 175cm tall and spoke slightly accented English. Very pretty. No problem in the hotel. Just walked up.
After showering, I saw her beautiful body. Slim with flat stomach (no kids) and A / B breast. I like them like that.
Great round of sex. And great fun. Mutual oral, many positions etc etc.
At 4 she said she wanted to go but I asked her to stay till morning. Morning was DATY and she came but I had to rush for work. She wanted another 2000 for staying till morning which I gave since she was really nice and I would like to meet her again.
Pointers about Spassso.
-Reach after 11. Take your choice by 1230. They start disappearing after that. There were some girls who did not appear to be hookers but you would have to play your game well. I did not have the time or the inclination (or maybe even the looks)
No flames about high prices please. I read the BKK forum and know prices. I did not find anyone even considering anything below 4000. Where I come from USD 140 is pretty cheap.
Next day is another story. Thanks guys for updates on the forum.
McM
All bars and discos are closed.
One place is open. Can't describe the location (taxi drivers know it)
Name is Honey.
Behine a simple dooor there are 50+ women sitting in two rows.
Papason asked for 3500 agreed to 2500.
Was not able to find one that I liked so left.
Went to Nana hotel parking.
As always a lot of freelancers.
One approched me with a smile and decent english.
We had a noodle soup and headed to my hotel.
Shower and mish.
Overall. Nothing special.
Gave her 2000 and sent her out after a hourThere are places open after 2 am, but Nana isn't, I think being in the central business district or whatever, they have to follow the rules. Soi Cowboy is sometimes open later, it depends on whether the Boys in Brown close it down. Regardless the street bars on Asoke (Soi 21) etc. Stay open late, and usually have a few girls available.
One place that is open until 6am (it has been for years, I haven't been recently though) is Climax in the Ambassador Hotel on Soi 9 or Soi 11, It was called something else before Climax (Possible the Spice Club?). It is a big club with a number of Pinoy bands. The girls from the Gogo's often head there after work. It's well worth a look.
Another place I noticed was open late recently is Bangkok Beat on Suk. Soi 7. 1 (same Soi as Eden Club). Formally known as Absolut Bar. This is open well after 2 am at least at the weekend, and is a great bar, with a real mixed crowd, including a good selection of girls you can take home. I like this place, and often take girls there for post-dinner and pre-sex drinks. The bands are good.
Just asks the bar girls where they go after work, that should get you some pointers.
J.
Both the clubs I mention must be "legally" open.
LittleBigMan
09-01-11, 15:46
No flame, but a correction. 4000 plus another 2000 = 6000 baht, for all night USD 30 to 1 = 200 USD, which gets you nearly nothing in the States.
Enjoy the high end, LBM
Anyone that says "it was good because I would pay more/same in the US" is a total fool about Thailand mongering.
If you are paying 6000 B for LT in Bangkok, that is nuts.
Anyone that says "it was good because I would pay more / same in the US" is a total fool about Thailand mongering.
If you are paying 6000 B for LT in Bangkok, that is nuts.Please, no more talking about prices. Even in US you can get laid from $25 to $10, 000 and up. So it is up to the buyer. He is not buying a sewing machine. He is buying a service. If they are both happy who are we to question it.
And no crap about raising prices for others. ISG members are not the only ones going to LOS. Peace.
Anyone that says "it was good because I would pay more / same in the US" is a total fool about Thailand mongering.
If you are paying 6000 B for LT in Bangkok, that is nuts.Plus air ticket. I mean. Paying same as at home. Does it make sense?
I allow some extra money for the foreign comparing with home prices.
Sometime I do the same, a 200/300 baht will not be a killer for me, maybe I make somebody happier.
But paying the DOUBLE makes us look like idiots, nothing more.
I do not know whether this will raise the general price levels, maybe not, bust still it is a bad sign.
Please, no more talking about prices. Even in US you can get laid from $25 to $10, 000 and up. So it is up to the buyer. He is not buying a sewing machine. He is buying a service. If they are both happy who are we to question it.
And no crap about raising prices for others. ISG members are not the only ones going to LOS. Peace.You are right, I am sick of reading about it also. I also agree about the non ISG dudes.
The fact is, he is on ISG. If he spent some time reading some posts, maybe some pricing education could help him save some money in the future.
Funny though. Seems like dudes are more interested in writing and ranting about saving 2 bucks on a Taxi than 100 on a girl.
It is his life / money. If he is happy, so be it.
The fact is, he is on ISG. If he spent some time reading some posts, maybe some pricing education could help him save some money in the future.That's the point.
Then each one his own
Mealticket
09-02-11, 02:31
who I finally negotiated down to 4000You sir, drive a hard bargain.
LittleBigMan
09-02-11, 04:23
You are right, I am sick of reading about it also. I also agree about the non ISG dudes.
The fact is, he is on ISG. If he spent some time reading some posts, maybe some pricing education could help him save some money in the future.
Funny though. Seems like dudes are more interested in writing and ranting about saving 2 bucks on a Taxi than 100 on a girl.
It is his life / money. If he is happy, so be it.The guy is on ISG, and he made it very cleared that he was looking for the highend and went to Spasso. I myself haven't been there and cetainly haven't heard many reports regarding this place like others. He pointed out USD that he paid 140? I jokingly reply and corrected him that it is more like 200 USD. If we stick to that specific amount 200USD, you can't get much at home especially overnight! Sure you can get laid for $25. 00, not in the San Francisco, with any quality, most likely she has Hiv drug addict, no teeth, and if one looks at some sites like FrugalJohn. Com you will see some price structure and picture but there will be nothing on the site that gave him the experience he had from the girl from Spasso that he could get at home.
Lets put everything in perspective I wouldn't go to a place like Spasso and pay the price but he knew what he wanted and got what he wanted for the price he wanted to pay knowing it was more. He came away happy and plans to revisit again. Its not like he is going to the Biergarden and paying that price and driving the market up? Many might disagree and that's okay but his report certainly shouldn't threaten the price structure and if one reads his report then you can see he passed up others because the price being ask was to high even for Spasso?
LBM.
Lover Boy #2
09-02-11, 05:00
At 4 she said she wanted to go but I asked her to stay till morning. Morning was DATY and she came but I had to rush for work. She wanted another 2000 for staying till morning which I gave since she was really nice and I would like to meet her again.
McM. Not a flame. Pay what you like. But when I am giving the same girl 1, 000THB for longtime (I speak Thai and have lived in BKK for longtime w / company owned condo). I have to listen to a story about how I "know too much". How there are farangs paying 6, 000THB. I always thought the girls were full of shit. And were saying this just to play me for extra money. Now I know the truth. Thai girlz don't always lie!
Anyone that says "it was good because I would pay more / same in the US" is a total fool about Thailand mongering.
If you are paying 6000 B for LT in Bangkok, that is nuts.I'll pay 6000 for only 3 hours. Though that includes nonstop fucking, sucking, DFK, etc and everything not covered with a hottie. I'd pay much less with a rubber involved. I wouldn't want LT and would pay more if I had to just to get rid of her after I've had enough of intimate activities. Maybe some other guys could get the same for less than half of that. But, then, I'm not them and they're not me. I'm ceratinly no Brad Pitt or Don Juan with the girls, but I'm also far from being the most undesirable guy they've ever seen.
. Not a flame. Pay what you like. But when I am giving the same girl 1, 000THB for longtime (I speak Thai and have lived in BKK for longtime w / company owned condo). I have to listen to a story about how I "know too much". How there are farangs paying 6, 000THB. I always thought the girls were full of shit. And were saying this just to play me for extra money. Now I know the truth. Thai girlz don't always lie!That's the great thing about not knowing Thai, especially with TGs who don't speak English, or next to none. I don't have to listen to stories! Or, at least, when they are telling one, I don't have a clue what they're saying. I'd pay a girl a few thousand baht just to keep silent, if I had to.
I'll pay 6000 for only 3 hours. Though that includes nonstop fucking, sucking, DFK, etc and everything not covered with a hottie. I'd pay much less with a rubber involved. I wouldn't want LT and would pay more if I had to just to get rid of her after I've had enough of intimate activities. Maybe some other guys could get the same for less than half of that. But, then, I'm not them and they're not me. I'm ceratinly no Brad Pitt or Don Juan with the girls, but I'm also far from being the most undesirable guy they've ever seen.For a model quality girl that performed like a Tulip or Mango Superstar, it would be worth the money.
GS
Thank you for all the opinions. Special thanks to LBM for standing up for me (somewhat.). BTW, I said 4000 min = USD140. Its different matter that I ended up paying 6000. 4000 is absolute minimum I heard from the ladies there, the ones I talked to atleast.
I have been to Bangkok many times and I know girls are available from 1000bht onwards, although some guys seriously disagree.
I have been to Soi Cowboy and picked up a 21/22 yr old spinner for 2000 overnight. No one can accuse me of inflating prices there.) Maybe I paid market prices though.
I wanted to try a different place like Spassos, CM2 which is not too much reviewed here. Other forums also mentioned 4000min at Spasso.
Why did I choose Spasso? I do have an expense account and can claim drinks for myself as well as the girls. I cannot give the company bills from Soi Cowboy or Nana for obvious reasons. I don't have to spend on lady-drinks, bar-fine etc. In Soi Cowboy, my expenses were around 3500-4000 including drinks for myself, the ladies, bar-fine etc.
Also, I do not pay for my air ticket to Bangkok. Its on company business.)
Lastly, there is no set standard for paying for the girls. Its upto each punter. But I do have a major problem with taxi drivers who behave rudely and ask for exhorbitant fares when you get into their taxis. If they ask for a tip politely after the journey, I have no problem giving it.
No offense taken, I have followed the Bangkok forum for long and it has helped me make my trips more fun. Although the Spasso adventure is the first I posted about. Thanks.
McM
I don't know where you guys monger in the US. I had a GFE session yesterday here in Socal for almost 3 hours for $200. I can get that all the time here if you know what sites to find them on.
I don't go to Thailand to pay those prices when I can get that service there for 1/3rd the cost.
I bet most guys feel the same.
But, to each their own. It is your money. Have a blast.
I don't know where you guys monger in the US. I had a GFE session yesterday here in Socal for almost 3 hours for $200.California is like a whole different country. Not even close to most of America.
Why did I choose Spasso? I do have an expense account and can claim drinks for myself as well as the girls. I cannot give the company bills from Soi Cowboy or Nana for obvious reasons. I don't have to spend on lady-drinks, bar-fine etc. In Soi Cowboy, my expenses were around 3500-4000 including drinks for myself, the ladies, bar-fine etc.
Also, I do not pay for my air ticket to Bangkok. Its on company business.)
Thanks.
McMThis out things in another perspection!
I was not suggesting you raise the price levels but simply you were paying a lot (=out of your pocket) and that (similar, somehopw, of course) level of girls can be obtained for much less (I am not suggesting 1000 here.)
If you can get back the major part of the bill, then it is like buying a Mercedes at the price of a Golf: do it! .
But if you pay out of your pocket a Mercedes to drive 10km, then rent a Golf.
LittleBigMan
09-02-11, 14:24
I don't know where you guys monger in the US. I had a GFE session yesterday here in Socal for almost 3 hours for $200. I can get that all the time here if you know what sites to find them on.
I don't go to Thailand to pay those prices when I can get that service there for 1/3rd the cost.
I bet most guys feel the same.
But, to each their own. It is your money. Have a blast.Luvpuss, in all respect I think you're need to be right have gotten you to loose perspective as to what the guy wrote?
I'm sure you can in SoCal but here in NoCal one can but I'm sure if they look hard enough and long enough? They say anything is possible right?
As you noted yourself " if you know what site " and when you look at those sites you have a particular price and look for those sites and if you were looking at the high end you would find high end prices right? I understand fully that you don't go to Thailand to pay those prices but this endless conversation whether we like it or not always comes up and the price police can attest to the many conversations in the past and will be again in the future. But reality is that many do and many will pay what they want haven't we heard that before? But again in your own words " almost three hours " I believe he got more than that?
His post clearly stated where he was going and what he wanted " Highend " is that too much to accept. The drink prices had my mouth drop too but he went in with a intend not to pay a particular price at this specific location. He wasn't standing outside Nana parking lot intend on paying that price. He had many opportunities but the price was too high and he settle on what he felt was reasonable for this place. I live by the motto, best bang for your buck and if I had the means this place and price would be relative to the situation. Is that too hard to understand? If he had wrote that he paid that amount for a FL on Sukhumvit I wouldn't be siding with him and agreeing with you?
Now if you think you can visit Spasso the next time you are in town and want to apply the same price structure you normally pay please do and let us know how it goes? If you can get a lady to stay for more than 3 hours at this place for your price structure please let me know so I can visit myself and then retract what I have written and throw in that he is a fool for good measure.
LBM
LittleBigMan
09-02-11, 14:29
This out things in another perspection!
I was not suggesting you raise the price levels but simply you were paying a lot (=out of your pocket) and that (similar, somehopw, of course) level of girls can be obtained for much less (I am not suggesting 1000 here.)
If you can get back the major part of the bill, then it is like buying a Mercedes at the price of a Golf: do it! .
But if you pay out of your pocket a Mercedes to drive 10km, then rent a Golf.He must work for the government? As long as its not your money who the f-ks care?
LBM
This out things in another perspection!
I was not suggesting you raise the price levels but simply you were paying a lot (=out of your pocket) and that (similar, somehopw, of course) level of girls can be obtained for much less (I am not suggesting 1000 here.)
If you can get back the major part of the bill, then it is like buying a Mercedes at the price of a Golf: do it! .
But if you pay out of your pocket a Mercedes to drive 10km, then rent a Golf.For another perspective, I travel a lot on business but it is my own business and all expenses come out of my pocket. I do not get a free ride from anyone.
While I do watch my expenses and do not waste money, I also travel at a business class level. I pay a bit more for an upgraded seat on the airplane. If there is a club floor at my hotel, I book it. And I rarely stay anywhere without a club floor.
When it comes to mongering, I am in it for the variety of experiences. I have had a 200bht for a full afternoon GFE romp in Chinatown in BKK. I have spent well over $5000 US for a couple hours at the Bunny Ranch in Nevada with one of the stars of their TV series.
I will pay a price that is appropriate to the occasion. I rarely argue about price. If it is unreasonable, I just pass. She probably would not be worth it anyway. But if it is within the range I am willing to pay for the experience offered, then I go for it. And if she really makes me happy, I tip well.
For the most part, I am paying right at the going rate for the given venue. I am experienced enough and know what I am doing and don't tolerate obvious rip offs and scammers. But sometimes you just see something that makes you say,"Damn, I'd give anything for some of that" and you pay it. That is what making money is all about. Using it to enjoy life.
Pogo
Mr Enternational
09-02-11, 16:22
HANA / RIN
Rin has many fans in this forum, and since I never had a balls massage before, I felt I should try her services.
Hana Massage is located in a side alley along soi 22, about a 5/6 minute walk from Sukhumvit on the left side, almost opposite the Mercure hotel.
Even by the often low Bangkok standards, this parlor may induce you to do a quick about face:
- as you can see in my pic below, the alley is very nondescript and poor looking.
- as I approached the shop a mangy dog, who Rin was tending to, started barking at me.
- Rin as reported is not young, difficult to tell, could be 40 to 60 years old.
- I wasn't offered a drink or anything.
- the room where the massage took place was extremely small and cramped.
But then Rin starts, and by the time she's finished your legs have turned into jelly, for just 1. 000 baht all inclusive. It may not be something I'the want to do regularly, but this was definitely a hand-job from heaven.
Funny bit: upon asking, Rin explained that it was an old white guy who taught her!Rin 40 to 60? I would say at least 50 by now. I haven't seen her in about 4 years and haven't seen her mentioned here in quite a while. You should have fucked her. She has some good pussy!
Thank you for all the opinions. Special thanks to LBM for standing up for me (somewhat.). BTW, I said 4000 min = USD140. Its different matter that I ended up paying 6000. 4000 is absolute minimum I heard from the ladies there, the ones I talked to atleast.
I have been to Bangkok many times and I know girls are available from 1000bht onwards, although some guys seriously disagree.
I have been to Soi Cowboy and picked up a 21/22 yr old spinner for 2000 overnight. No one can accuse me of inflating prices there.) Maybe I paid market prices though.
I wanted to try a different place like Spassos, CM2 which is not too much reviewed here. Other forums also mentioned 4000min at Spasso.
Why did I choose Spasso? I do have an expense account and can claim drinks for myself as well as the girls. I cannot give the company bills from Soi Cowboy or Nana for obvious reasons. I don't have to spend on lady-drinks, bar-fine etc. In Soi Cowboy, my expenses were around 3500-4000 including drinks for myself, the ladies, bar-fine etc.
Also, I do not pay for my air ticket to Bangkok. Its on company business.)
Lastly, there is no set standard for paying for the girls. Its upto each punter. But I do have a major problem with taxi drivers who behave rudely and ask for exhorbitant fares when you get into their taxis. If they ask for a tip politely after the journey, I have no problem giving it.
No offense taken, I have followed the Bangkok forum for long and it has helped me make my trips more fun. Although the Spasso adventure is the first I posted about. Thanks.
McM4000 baht isn't a minimum when rent is due and there aren't enough punters around willing to pay those prices. Once people get that into their heads things change real fast.
. Not a flame. Pay what you like. But when I am giving the same girl 1, 000THB for longtime (I speak Thai and have lived in BKK for longtime w / company owned condo). I have to listen to a story about how I "know too much". How there are farangs paying 6, 000THB. I always thought the girls were full of shit. And were saying this just to play me for extra money. Now I know the truth. Thai girlz don't always lie!Lover Boy has it spot on, I live here and speak Thai too, and have heard this from the girls over and over. And I've even had the girl call herself foolish for going with me when I pay only 1000 and she is a hottie normally getting 2-3000. And then she jumps back into bed or gives me her number and asks when she can see me again. There are no tricks involved. You just start to realize that there are so many hot and fantastic providers here that you don't have to pay inflated figures to, and if they are the ones asking for it, you just walk away and find another. Then again, some people think that by spending $100 for a meal, that the restaurant must automatically be good.
MChalmers100
09-02-11, 18:44
I'm new to Bangkok (and actually new to Asia) and will be visiting in about a week. Lots of helpful info in this forum, so thank you.
I'd like to ask if anyone can recommend a good private guide that I could hire to help show me the Bangkok Nightlife. I'm ideally looking for a local who knows his way around, can help me waste time, and can help avoid getting ripped off by taxis, bars, girls, etc.
Has anyone used such a guide? Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Luvpuss, in all respect I think you're need to be right have gotten you to loose perspective as to what the guy wrote?
I'm sure you can in SoCal but here in NoCal one can but I'm sure if they look hard enough and long enough? They say anything is possible right?
As you noted yourself " if you know what site " and when you look at those sites you have a particular price and look for those sites and if you were looking at the high end you would find high end prices right? I understand fully that you don't go to Thailand to pay those prices but this endless conversation whether we like it or not always comes up and the price police can attest to the many conversations in the past and will be again in the future. But reality is that many do and many will pay what they want haven't we heard that before? But again in your own words " almost three hours " I believe he got more than that?
His post clearly stated where he was going and what he wanted " Highend " is that too much to accept. The drink prices had my mouth drop too but he went in with a intend not to pay a particular price at this specific location. He wasn't standing outside Nana parking lot intend on paying that price. He had many opportunities but the price was too high and he settle on what he felt was reasonable for this place. I live by the motto, best bang for your buck and if I had the means this place and price would be relative to the situation. Is that too hard to understand? If he had wrote that he paid that amount for a FL on Sukhumvit I wouldn't be siding with him and agreeing with you?
Now if you think you can visit Spasso the next time you are in town and want to apply the same price structure you normally pay please do and let us know how it goes? If you can get a lady to stay for more than 3 hours at this place for your price structure please let me know so I can visit myself and then retract what I have written and throw in that he is a fool for good measure.
LBMI never go to places like Spasso or even gogo's because I know there is the same out there for much less. I would bet that if he wanders about for a week of so and negotiates some 2k LT's, he will look back on the Spasso experience as one he would not repeat.
Need to be right? I know I am right in that there are 1000's of girls in BKK that will give you GFE LT for 1/3 of what he paid.
Does this make sense? : Let's say you went into a steak house and paid $60 for a prime steak. The next day you walked around the corner and got the exact same steak for $20. It would be pretty foolish to go back to that $60 place, right. Most normal dudes would probably say "I wish I would have found this place yesterday".
It appears to me that you may have lost perspective as you are patting the guy on the back for paying triple what he needs too for the same service.
I avoid pretty much avoid all places except go go bars for this reason. There a been a few times where I have paid a girl, and ended up not touching her. Same thing at the massage places, a few girls have really hot bodies. But most of them look ok, in a push up bra and mini skirt.
There are woman at the high end night clubs quoting these steep prices, that could not be on a stage somewhere else.
I never go to places like Spasso or even gogo's because I know there is the same out there for much less. I would bet that if he wanders about for a week of so and negotiates some 2k LT's, he will look back on the Spasso experience as one he would not repeat.
Need to be right? I know I am right in that there are 1000's of girls in BKK that will give you GFE LT for 1/3 of what he paid.
Does this make sense? : Let's say you went into a steak house and paid $60 for a prime steak. The next day you walked around the corner and got the exact same steak for $20. It would be pretty foolish to go back to that $60 place, right. Most normal dudes would probably say "I wish I would have found this place yesterday".
It appears to me that you may have lost perspective as you are patting the guy on the back for paying triple what he needs too for the same service.Don't say that. There are so many guys around defining their fun by the amount of money they throw around. So Spasso is the place for them that protects the other places for the rest of us. The real bargains need to be protected for those who can appreciate them.
I don't know where you guys monger in the US. I had a GFE session yesterday here in Socal for almost 3 hours for $200. I can get that all the time here if you know what sites to find them on.
I don't go to Thailand to pay those prices when I can get that service there for 1/3rd the cost.
I bet most guys feel the same.
But, to each their own. It is your money. Have a blast.I've never mongered in the USA but in Canada I can get a P4P SW lady for $10 {300 baht}. She'd be a drug addict, ugly, and probably have HIV and / or another STD. This would be in a relatively dangerous neighborhood compared to what I experience in Thailand.
In Canada it would be tough, if not impossible, to get 3 quality hours for $200 to $300 from a hot classy SP. That would be a common price for one hour.
In Thailand I figure that I'm paying at most 33% of what I'd pay in my home country for the same kind of girl. So if I stay long enough and take TGs often enough, the savings I get from pooning here in BKK more than covers the extra costs of airfare and hotel that I wouldn't pay if I stayed at home. The inconvenience of all that's involved in travelling is countered by the ease of picking up girls in Siam compared to the other side of the ocean. Moreover I think the kind of female I can get in LOS is more to my taste in looks, attitudes, and service.
So, not surprisingly, when I'm not in the Kingdom, I mostly take care of my own sexual needs, alone, and save up for my next trip across the Pacific to the City of Angels. That is where I see the value in shopping when it comes to the services girls can provide. Sometimes I wonder if spending it elsewhere is like flushing my money down the toilet.
Don't say that. There are so many guys around defining their fun by the amount of money they throw around. So Spasso is the place for them that protects the other places for the rest of us. The real bargains need to be protected for those who can appreciate them.Good point.
I never go to places like Spasso or even gogo's because I know there is the same out there for much less. I would bet that if he wanders about for a week of so and negotiates some 2k LT's, he will look back on the Spasso experience as one he would not repeat.
Need to be right? I know I am right in that there are 1000's of girls in BKK that will give you GFE LT for 1/3 of what he paid.
Does this make sense? : Let's say you went into a steak house and paid $60 for a prime steak. The next day you walked around the corner and got the exact same steak for $20. It would be pretty foolish to go back to that $60 place, right. Most normal dudes would probably say "I wish I would have found this place yesterday".
It appears to me that you may have lost perspective as you are patting the guy on the back for paying triple what he needs too for the same service.I think your analogy doesn't work and here's why – I live in a city where I can get excellent food- especially steaks. I only buy aged prime which is expensive but readily available and because it is always exactly the same, consistently excellent! That's what I want in asteak – the same every time. Women though should not be all the same all the time. That undesireable trait in a steak is exactly what I'm looking for in a Thai lady. Something new! Its easy to find the same slam bang little monkey with no emotions no English, etc. And that's fine ocassionally (and better in bunches) but variety is why we're all here. We could all be married (most anyway) banging the same cooch over and over but that would be hell. Maybe he finds some qualities in the women he meets in Spassos that he does not see on the street in Nana (go figure) and maybe any number of things but in the end its his time and his money. A lot of us have made our money already so to suggest that he will regret it the next night I believe is not accurate. I AM CERTAIN he's never looking back at that C-Note...
LittleBigMan
09-03-11, 01:46
Luvpuss,
Not padding his back, I / We all understand you can find steak at other location but the question was and still is, since you never and I have never been to Spasso if you ever went to a place like this can you use your standand to obtain a lady for the night not 3 hours? Not padding his back again, as far as he was concern he was looking for a high end piece of meat and he went to Ruth Chris (Spasso) not around the corner to Sleazlers.
LBM
DesiDownUnder
09-03-11, 03:32
Might be a stupid question, but whats the difference between Oil and Lotion Massage? Which is better? .
Mr Enternational
09-03-11, 03:54
Not padding his back, I / We all understand you can find steak at other location but the question was and still is, since you never and I have never been to Spasso if you ever went to a place like this can you use your standand to obtain a lady for the night not 3 hours? Not padding his back again, as far as he was concern he was looking for a high end piece of meat and he went to Ruth Chris (Spasso) not around the corner to Sleazlers.LOL. Sleazlers? I thought it was Sizzler?
4000 baht isn't a minimum when rent is due and there aren't enough punters around willing to pay those prices. Once people get that into their heads things change real fast.The end of the month is GREAT! Rent due on the 4th for most gals. Late on the 5th. This weekend. WOO HOO!
GS
Friar Tuck
09-03-11, 10:39
Might be a stupid question, but whats the difference between Oil and Lotion Massage? Which is better? .Try each one and you will have your answer!
Oil feels better to me, but, being a hairy monkey, it is harder to remove. I generally ask to have my back washed in the shower by the masseuse.
Lotion washes straight off, has vitamin e and smells good, but dries out quite quickly and doesn't have the smooth feel of oil.
If we are talking about a rub and tug joint, take your own massage jel designed for sex play. A ball massage with that is quite amazing if done by a pro.
Tuck
I think your analogy doesn't work and here's why – I live in a city where I can get excellent food- especially steaks. I only buy aged prime which is expensive but readily available and because it is always exactly the same, consistently excellent! That's what I want in asteak – the same every time. Women though should not be all the same all the time. That undesireable trait in a steak is exactly what I'm looking for in a Thai lady. Something new! Its easy to find the same slam bang little monkey with no emotions no English, etc. And that's fine ocassionally (and better in bunches) but variety is why we're all here. We could all be married (most anyway) banging the same cooch over and over but that would be hell. Maybe he finds some qualities in the women he meets in Spassos that he does not see on the street in Nana (go figure) and maybe any number of things but in the end its his time and his money. A lot of us have made our money already so to suggest that he will regret it the next night I believe is not accurate. I AM CERTAIN he's never looking back at that C-Note.I'd agree that if the guy had a great night he won't ever regret it, but the analogy still holds some water. In Bangkok, try hunting down Uncle John's. It's a hole in the wall run by the former chef at the Sukhothai. The food is 100% 5 star, and the prices are 100% 3 star. While I agree 100% on variety with the girls, I really don't think that one is guaranteed better quality at Spassos. Women with kids asking 4000? Most Thai guys would laugh their asses off. As one Thai guy once told me,"we'd never pay to screw a woman with a kid, we pay for a really hot young lady with a fantastic body." (not that there don't exist those who have kids and still look gorgeous). How many long term expats end up pulling regularly from Soi 33? I would reckon well under 5. The reason being that they presumably know that most of the girls working there are not well educated white skinned northern or Bangkok girls that they are paying top dollar for. No, the majority are the same girls you find in Nana and Cowboy wearing fancy cocktail dresses. You want the cocktail dress, buy it yourself and get the girl to wear it in the room.
This whole thread reminds me of going into a disco one night with a very handsome friend of mine, and having two girls come running over and more or less throw themselves at us. However, the minute I started speaking Thai, my gal looked at me with this horrified look. We pretty quickly cut out the BS and she told me that she normally pulled guys for 4-5000 baht. I told her that I normally pulled girls for 1000 baht. She told me that was because I lived here. And she gave me this vicious smile and said,"and most guys don't even know I've had a kid!" Everyone is free to blow their hard earned cash any way they want to, but for those who live here, it is extremely annoying listening to girls (whose services in most cases never live up to those who aren't complaining) complain about how they should be getting 2-3000 baht because that is what Joe Shmoe paid her and she now expects 2-3000 baht every time.
Crazy4Thai
09-03-11, 12:39
Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.You are certainly doing the right thing by reading the forum.
If you found a Thai nightlife guide who was actually in that business, IMO, your chances of being ripped off would become highly likely.
Post again in the Travel Plans and Announcements thread and maybe you could get an ISG wingman.
Also if you stayed at Livingstones Lodge, Giotto might give some good tips. I have not done that but read a great report when he took several ISG guys out on the town.
Don't forget to write your reports.
C4T
Luvpuss,
Not padding his back, I / We all understand you can find steak at other location but the question was and still is, since you never and I have never been to Spasso if you ever went to a place like this can you use your standand to obtain a lady for the night not 3 hours? Not padding his back again, as far as he was concern he was looking for a high end piece of meat and he went to Ruth Chris (Spasso) not around the corner to Sleazlers.
LBMKeeping the steak example, I have to say that in a recent trip to the States with friends we went to a few steak houses, different qualities, still all in the medium-high end.
I knew Ruth Chris before and I knew that by taking the friends there I would score their appreciation. Exactly: we had great steaks, at a lower price than Ruth' but, not comparable to Ruth.
One than has to decide whether he handle the alternative to Ruth, but it is his own choice. There are, stll more expensive options than Ruth, I have been there and one could spot the difference there too.
Even we talk about a juicy piece of meat in all the places.
Keeping the steak example, I have to say that in a recent trip to the States with friends we went to a few steak houses, different qualities, still all in the medium-high end.
I knew Ruth Chris before and I knew that by taking the friends there I would score their appreciation. Exactly: we had great steaks, at a lower price than Ruth' but, not comparable to Ruth.
One than has to decide whether he handle the alternative to Ruth, but it is his own choice. There are, stll more expensive options than Ruth, I have been there and one could spot the difference there too.
Even we talk about a juicy piece of meat in all the places.Have you tried Morton's? They actually bring the pre cooked meat to your table and you choose what you want. A step better than Ruth C. From my experience.
Might be a stupid question, but whats the difference between Oil and Lotion Massage? Which is better? .Wack off with some oil, then try some lotion. Make a decision from there.
Have you tried Morton's? They actually bring the pre cooked meat to your table and you choose what you want. A step better than Ruth C. From my experience.Can't remember, but, yes, have been to some steak houses where they bring the meat to chose from and entertain you in the story of the meat (seasoned, marinated etc) and at what tempearture they will cook (grill) your meat.
Still talking about juicy meat (with no real offence) , some pimps do the same. But usually the meat his less juicy when they pump it up too much
Have you tried Morton's? They actually bring the pre cooked meat to your table and you choose what you want. A step better than Ruth C. From my experience.Thats new to me. You sure about that?
Thats new to me. You sure about that?Morton's Steak House. I just went to the one in Palm Springs 2 weeks ago. They rolled out a raw meat cart so you could make your choice.
Morton's Steak House. I just went to the one in Palm Springs 2 weeks ago. They rolled out a raw meat cart so you could make your choice.Sure raw, but you said "precooked".
Sure raw, but you said "precooked".Sorry, misspoke.
My third time in Thailand, and also my third in Bangkok.
RyoGreat report!
Thank you.
Lover Boy #2
09-04-11, 04:12
I'm new to Bangkok (and actually new to Asia) and will be visiting in about a week. Lots of helpful info in this forum, so thank you.
I'd like to ask if anyone can recommend a good private guide that I could hire to help show me the Bangkok Nightlife. I'm ideally looking for a local who knows his way around, can help me waste time, and can help avoid getting ripped off by taxis, bars, girls, etc.
Has anyone used such a guide? Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.If you are an Ok guy and can hold off for a few weeks, I'll be home beginning of October. Won't be leaving again until Christmas.
Otherwise. DO NOT GET INVOLVED WITH THAI GUIDES. Hopefully someone here will volunteer to help you.
If you can find a smart ex-pat, you might get to some locations the rest of the crowd never sees.
Lover Boy #2
09-04-11, 04:20
This whole thread reminds me of going into a disco one night with a very handsome friend of mine, and having two girls come running over and more or less throw themselves at us. However, the minute I started speaking Thai, my gal looked at me with this horrified look. We pretty quickly cut out the BS and she told me that she normally pulled guys for 4-5000 baht. I told her that I normally pulled girls for 1000 baht. She told me that was because I lived here. And she gave me this vicious smile and said,"and most guys don't even know I've had a kid!" Everyone is free to blow their hard earned cash any way they want to, but for those who live here, it is extremely annoying listening to girls (whose services in most cases never live up to those who aren't complaining) complain about how they should be getting 2-3000 baht because that is what Joe Shmoe paid her and she now expects 2-3000 baht every time.Mutual Admiration Society*
I have had the exact thing happen. Jaws drop. Oh you are not a farang that can be ripped off. Ok, let's talk real business and real price. If you only have a good understanding of Thai, some girls start to pout, because not even the reason for an incoming phone call is going to work. When it is really the thai bf or her friend telling her to come to a party. No one has died, no water buff. Is sick, no mother has fallen on motorsai. There is peace in the universe.
Lover Boy #2
09-04-11, 04:31
7 years going to Bangkok. There are very few with great attitude and good looks-at any price! Why do so many of you get away with 500-1000 short time?Good question.
When you live someplace, you are not in a hurry as someone on holiday might be. If I can't find anything that I know is going to be good, I do not partake. Go home and wait for another day. A guy on two week holiday starts to panic when things do not look right and can make some bad decisions.
Also, I do not take girls off the street for 500-700 THB expecting that this is going to be some beauty contest winner and that I am going to get some luv. That is not happening. I do not hang out in nana car parks for the same reasons, no great attitude and looks at any price.
It just seems that when you are an in shape guy with some decent clothes and a very nice apartment and car, there are so many more opportunities. You even develop Thai male contacts who can every once in a while come up with interesting exploits. Thai men are not paying the high numbers unless they are trying to impress on business issues, possibly a Japanese or Korean businessman. Thai guys are very frugal and have a decent catalog of venues farangs do not venture to.
For the most part, tourists are not getting the good price and good looks. You have to pay for it at or near asking price when you have that look of panic / fear / lack of pussy / love / whatever on your face.
Good question.
When you live someplace, you are not in a hurry as someone on holiday might be. If I can't find anything that I know is going to be good, I do not partake. Go home and wait for another day. A guy on two week holiday starts to panic when things do not look right and can make some bad decisions.
Also, I do not take girls off the street for 500-700 THB expecting that this is going to be some beauty contest winner and that I am going to get some luv. That is not happening. I do not hang out in nana car parks for the same reasons, no great attitude and looks at any price.
It just seems that when you are an in shape guy with some decent clothes and a very nice apartment and car, there are so many more opportunities. You even develop Thai male contacts who can every once in a while come up with interesting exploits. Thai men are not paying the high numbers unless they are trying to impress on business issues, possibly a Japanese or Korean businessman. Thai guys are very frugal and have a decent catalog of venues farangs do not venture to.
For the most part, tourists are not getting the good price and good looks. You have to pay for it at or near asking price when you have that look of panic / fear / lack of pussy / love / whatever on your face.It seems to me you are making some statements about holidayers & those living in LOS that are not necessarily the case, even if they may usually be true.
Sorry, I had to laugh at the Nana Car Park comment, but this might make for an interesting discussion. You could consider me as somewhat of a NCP connoisseur, since I seldom take ladies from anywhere else, in some 2 years living in BKK since 2007, and when I do it's usually around the corner SWs close to sukh soi 5.
Re the looks of quite a number of ladies I've taken from there, I'd stack them up against any found anywhere in the world, or, for that matter, in the many oceans of internet porn, of which I am very familiar. This is especially the case IME being in BKK in the past 5 months. BTW I think everyone who's been here on ISG a while might know that these girls typicly go for 1000B ST {about 30 dollars US}.
As for attitude, if you are referring to the TGs at the NCP, I'm not sure how you would know if, in your own words, you do "not hang out there". IMO the attitude depends on the particular lady, may and often does vary alot from one to another, and even with the same individual YMMV, in fact it will vary, from time to time. Again, though, IME on this present trip, the attitudes and service is definitely as good or better than ever since I began coming to Siam.
Why is this scene apparently better now than ever since 2007 yet at the same price? Some possible factors are the downturn of the world economy, the loss of customers in LOS due to various political issues since 2006 {including a coup, airport closures, siege of BKK, etc} and fewer Japanese visitors due to their own tragedy, etc. Furthermore it should be noted that this is the first time I was in the capitol from late March to mid September, whereas I usually visit from August to February. IOW this trip is more of a low season trip.
Hello Bangkok forum,
I haven't been back to BKK for 5 years, but the last time I was there I visited a place called Club Eden, on Sukuhmvit Soi 7 (1/2). It was a bit run-down and the girls were well seasoned, so I wonder if it has survived. I'll be visiting in a few weeks and I'd like to go back, but I wonder if anyone can update me on this place. Like I said, the girls were no spring lillies, but the 3P, toys, optional anal, on-site room, were all to my liking. If not Club Eden, a recommended alternative?
I'd like to ask if anyone can recommend a good private guide that I could hire to help show me the Bangkok Nightlife. I'm ideally looking for a local who knows his way around, can help me waste time, and can help avoid getting ripped off by taxis, bars, girls, etc.Suggestion: Stay at Livingstone Lodge on Suk Soi 33 and ask to talk to the boss. He can tell you everything you want to know about what to do, where to go, prices, etc. He's known as Giotto on this board, but don't use that name at his Lodge or he'll get in trouble with his wife.
I also recommend that you review Giotto's own forum on this ISG board.
Good luck and happy hunting.
7 years going to Bangkok. There are very few with great attitude and good looks-at any price! Why do so many of you get away with 500-1000 short time?Instead of the gogos I'd suggest you try the Nana Car Park next time. 1000 ST is the usual asking price, and that's even without any bargaining by the customer. The other day, BTW, a girl there volunteered to give me 2 or 3 hours for a ST. She was just average in looks IMO but she gave me 3 hours just as she promised and, I might add, with no attitude plus excellent service.
Re your remark about attitude and looks, I think these are very subjective topics. Though it sounds like your standard for "good looks" is quite high when you say there are few like that here. Or perhaps Asians are just not your thing. Certainly there are relatively few stunners who are 9 or 10's on a scale of 1 to 10. But if your name is not Brad Pitt or you don't have something else very special going for you beyond 99% of punters in LOS, can one really expect to get such a lady at 500 Baht for even below average service? No.
Hello, Bangkok forum,
I haven't been back to BKK for 5 years, but the last time I was there I visited a place called Club Eden, on Sukuhmvit Soi 7 (1/2). It was a bit run-down and the girls were well seasoned, so I wonder if it has survived. I'll be visiting in a few weeks and I'd like to go back, but I wonder if anyone can update me on this place. Like I said, the girls were no spring lillies, but the 3P, toys, optional anal, on-site room, were all to my liking. If not Club Eden, a recommended alternative?Not much has changed since 5 years ago, the place is the same as you described it. Take a look at the PG and you will see some of the 'no spring lillies' type ladies or similar type ladies posted there.
Wolvenvacht
09-04-11, 07:42
I'd like to ask if anyone can recommend a good private guide that I could hire to help show me the Bangkok Nightlife. I'm ideally looking for a local who knows his way around, can help me waste time, and can help avoid getting ripped off by taxis, bars, girls, etc.Contrary to popular myth, the Thai are not all out there to scam and rip you off. The biggest scam they operate is probably the "helpful guide" trick, outside of museums or temples. Invariably someone will come up to you and inform you the temple, museum. Is closed or will soon be closing, but he has another great suggestion for you. This most of the time involves a cheap tuk-tuk drive to some far off touristy place and a "short" visit to a jewelry shop, suit maker, who as it happens, this day is working on a "special government subsidized tourist discount scheme". You will see all the jewelry shops and suit makers of BKK and pay discount prices that are at least triple the normal prices.
You will see the same in Patpong: touts try to guide you to sleazy upstairs "a-gogo-bars" for a sexy show. They forget to tell you the girls are fugly and the prices even more so.
In general distrust any Thai coming to you with a "great deal" (taxis, girls, gems.). Thai are really shy people and will not even think of disturbing your peace and if they do they will have some ulterior motive.
Even in beer bars or a-gogo bars, the girls will usually ask you if they can sit with you and whether you will buy them a lady-drink. A simple "no" and a warm smile is all it takes to have them leave you in peace.
Also note that the Thai and farang mongering scenes do not really overlap. You see next to no Thai men in "our" beer-bars and a-gogos. The Asian men you see there are probably Koreans or Japanese and they are as clueless as we, if not more. So bringing a local Thai guide to these places is not going to help much.
Take the prices quoted on the board here as a general guide-line and don't think you have been scammed if you notice someone else got a stunner on a LT date for 500 baht less than you. Even the best of negotiators will only be able to make a difference of perhaps 50 USD. Set yourself a budget and be happy if you find someone matching it. Driving the price down into the bargain basement is likely to spoil some of the fun afterwards. Generosity "nam jai" (literally: "juice of the heart") of the richer to the poorer is considered a major Thai concept and will grant you much esteem. One way or another you will get it back through their system of "Sam-neuk-boon-koon" ("repaying debts"). If you visit the same places a few times and you are known as someone with "nam jai", you will get better deals easily, but Cheap Charleys will end up with the crumbs of the rich table. Don't spoil it for yourself for a lousy few score of dollars.
Peter Pan 2
09-04-11, 08:35
Hi guys.
After a long period of 5 years I will return to BKK in November for a two week vacation. I am specially interested in big breast ladies. C cup +. Any recommendations on the current supply?
PP2
Hi guys.
After a long period of 5 years I will return to BKK in November for a two week vacation. I am specially interested in big breast ladies. C cup +. Any recommendations on the current supply?
PP2You should get together with your alter ego, D-Cups, for the time of your lives, mindlessly looking for big cows.
In my own experience, however, big titted women don't seem to hang out together on one place; you're liable to see one or two of them in just about any bar or go-go you visit. I've not heard of a big breast bar anywhere in Thailand but I may be wrong.
D-Cups has asked your question at least a hundred times and still it seems he's not satisfied with the obvioius answers.
Suggestion: Stay at Livingstone Lodge on Suk Soi 33 and ask to talk to the boss. He can tell you everything you want to know about what to do, where to go, prices, etc. He's known as Giotto on this board, but don't use that name at his Lodge or he'll get in trouble with his wife.
I also recommend that you review Giotto's own forum on this ISG board.
Good luck and happy hunting.Fully agreeing on the suggestion. He certainly knows a lot.
I don't call him Giotto there, but I don't see the reason why his wife would object.
There is his own forum on ISG, his contributions include the lodge URL, there is only one official male owner at the Lodge. So it is clera who is who. ISG members do get some special deals in there, so ISG is not a mistery over there.
LL is a great location, fully respectable and veerery GF friendly.
There is no walk of shame there as all know there is no shame in heading back to your room with a girl or two (or more!).
LL has its own Sports Bar fully furnished. Another plus for the newcomers as they can break the ice with the mongering scene with no risk of being ripped off. Bar fine is slightly on the expensive side but ad a whole you get a good time, a good and attentive treat, no rush from the girls to be taken: they are happy to entertain you sitting and chatting with you while you drink. Be smartly generous, offer them a LD, extend it to her friend ANC maybe the waiter / tress and you will win their heart.
Not as a stupid overspending farang but ad a truly handsome man.
Those few bucks extra will get you sincere appreciation.
Coming back to topic, what I do is not to mention ISG or "Giotto" with the girls, maybe makes sense, maybe not. Whatever, doesn't change my life to do so, either way.
If, then, Giotto gas to stay.
Go to Annie's Soap Massage and you will even see signs encouraging to report on a couple of mongering forums.
Harry Dude
09-04-11, 11:59
I'm new to Bangkok (and actually new to Asia) and will be visiting in about a week. Lots of helpful info in this forum, so thank you.
I'd like to ask if anyone can recommend a good private guide that I could hire to help show me the Bangkok Nightlife. I'm ideally looking for a local who knows his way around, can help me waste time, and can help avoid getting ripped off by taxis, bars, girls, etc.
Has anyone used such a guide? Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.I am by no means a Bangkok expert, but this is what I have learned:
1. Get a regular metered taxi and chances are very slim you will be ripped off. I have never encountered any attempt at severe rip-offs, the only time that came close was the taxi driver taking me to the airport from my hotel, who suggested a flat fare of 600 THB instead of the metered fare. You should always politely ask for the meter. Taxi fares are very reasonable anyway.
2. Staying at Livingstones Lodge is the *perfect* introduction to the BKK scene. As mentioned elsewhere. It is a nice and clean boutique hotel, and a huge plus is the fact that they have their own Sports Bar. You will not get ripped off. Play some pool with the ladies, buy them a drink or two, just relax. Very low pressure atmosphere. In fact, I was a terrible pool player when I first came to BKK, but the girls in LL improved my game tremendously. Yes, the barfine at LL might be a few hundred Baht more than some other places, but we're talking about a difference of 5 dollars here. Which in my mind is a small price to pay for peace of mind.
3. Finding a guide? Well, I actually think that the girls from LL can be pretty good guides! We have gone to discos (had a terrific time with my LL girl at both CM2 and Spasso) , eaten fantastic and inexpensive food at great Thai restaurants which I never would have found alone, and gone to other bars for more pool playing. And of course, all followed by her spending the night, and then breakfast by the LL pool in the morning.
4. If you want so sample some of the massage parlors and soapies then I would almost guarantee you will not be ripped off at any of the places discussed regularly on this forum. I like Annies although it is a little bit run down.
Depending on how much time you plan to spend in BKK, I would recommend booking the first 3-4 nights at Livingstones Lodge to get your bearings, and then take if from there. You seem to be very concerned about being ripped off. I would say that if you act sensibly, be polite and smile, don't get senselessly drunk, then you will have a great time.
Harry Dude
09-04-11, 12:14
lollipop is new bj bar in suk soi 10 about 20 metres in turn to the left. tuk (famous from sol) is a co-owner manager as she has retired from active duty it seems. quite a few ladies, but not that pretty of course. the only ones i fancied at all were busy, but i am very picky. full sex available too. no idea which girls have skills similar to tuk. not sure how compares to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) overall, but the place looks classy.stopped by lollipop in soi 10 a couple of days ago, just to give it a try. as many others have said. this is not the place to go for hot chicks. and. it is not really a classy place either, the whole setup is very basic. the gals hang out outside the place and try to entice passers-by in with the usual "welcome handsome man". so i decided to give it a try: went with the first random girl who approached me. she was very friendly, and lead me up the stairs to a room on the floor above the bar (there is no action in the bar on the ground floor). this room had about 6 leather couches, each with a curtain that could be closed for privacy. the girl will bring a small towel for you to sit on after she has pulled down your pants. you will sit on the couch, and she will kneel between your legs and go to work sucking your cock, balls etc. it was a reasonably professional job. and she was very very friendly and giggly, even after i came in her mouth. total damage was 700 thb for the bj and then i gave her a 200 thb tip. she also offered full service (sex) , but i was not really interested in that (however there were no hard attempts at upselling). the girl i was with had obviously worked at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s before, as she repeatedly said "please come back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), no lollipop, soon".
7 years going to Bangkok. There are very few with great attitude and good looks-at any price! Why do so many of you get away with 500-1000 short time?Simple. For that price you are unlikely to get really good looks. Maybe there are one or two good lookers in Biergarten, Nana Car Park etc. But they may well have a higher price. They just aren't going to be desperate enough to go that low if they are really good looking.
Its possible to find really good looks and really good attitude, if you know the right places. I don't find this combination as low as 1K. Its usually at least 2K, where I am looking since I want a variety of ladies to choose from and don't have time for a long hunt.
Hi guys.
After a long period of 5 years I will return to BKK in November for a two week vacation. I am specially interested in big breast ladies. C cup +. Any recommendations on the current supply?
PP2Try Sheba in Soi Cowboy. There is pretty girl with big real tits (C) dancing nude there. One or two others also big. Doll's house also has some big tits. Look around. C cup is not that hard to find, even the non silicone type. Real D cups is more difficult without looking at the fatties.
B19 at soapy Emannuelle (Huay Khwang) is nearly a D cup (C+ all natural).
I was recently in Bangkok and Pattaya and would like to report some of my experiences. Perhaps the information may be useful for some fellow mongers. This part here covers my time in Bangkok, while the Pattaya part is in the Pattaya forum.
I stayed for 3 days and 4 nights, and had my hotel in the NEP (Nana Entertainment Plaza) area. Despite the late arrival on day one, I went out. However, it was one of the Buddha celebrations, so on July 15 and 16, the gogo bars were closed. But not so the disco 'Nana Liquid'. The selection there was not really special, but I picked a nice freelance lady with a nice smile. Most of the time, this is a good sign. So was it this time. She was not so young anymore and had a child (which was visible) , but she was a really good performer. I think that I even could have done her bareback if I liked. Her pussy was very clean with good smell, and DATY was a pleasure. She stayed overnight, and I had two pops. Damage was 2000 Baht and of course, no barfine.
The next night, the gogos were still closed. So, I was hanging around in the beer bars around NEP. At closing – I. E. 2 AM, I picked the waitress of one of the bars. She was quite cute and we had a good chat before. She also had a baby already (equally visible) , but she still had a good body and quite big tits. Again, we did it twice, once in the night and once in the morning. Her performance was ok, but not more. Furthermore, she had some smell of sweat – despite a thorough shower. Also her pussy had this smell, so I did not DATY her. Damage was 3000 Baht. She told me that she still had to pay the barfine, even though I picked her after closing. But she already told the boss that she was going with me. Well, that sounds a bit stupid, so I left this problem to her and did not pay additional.
The third night, the gogo bars were open again. Usually, I stroll from bar to bar to find the 'best' pick. However, this time, I changed my strategy and decided to pick a girl whenever I found a good match. I stopped at about three bars only and found a very nice girl at DC10 in NEP. They might not have the most beautiful girls in general, but she was pretty good. A nice body with good and rather big bump, but not too big at all – just right to be terribly sexy. Then, she also had beautiful tits of medium size. She had no child, so her belly was nice as well. Her face was nothing special, but her personality was great. She made all efforts already in the bar to please me. I could touch her everywhere, and she was very much into DFK. So, I decided to take her to my hotel. The barfine was 600 Baht. She was a great performer, as expected. Again, I am sure I could have done her bareback, if I liked. We had a lot of DFK, I gave her a long DATY – almost until the final. She also returned with a great BBBJ, and I did not even have to ask. She stayed overnight, and I had two pops, the second one on her beautiful belly. We exchanged our telephone numbers (I use a number in Thailand when I am there) , and I paid the damage of 3000 plus a tip of 300 for the great performance and a number of hot pictures I took of her.
The fourth night, I hit now some different bars at NEP. In one of them, I was tempted by a 19 years old (or rather young) girl. She was damn pretty and petite. Her smile was killing. However, I made rather bad experiences with so young girls. They do not really know how to please the men. Furthermore, I was a bit scared due to the young age. I had in mind that girls are allowed to work in bars and go out with men only at the age of 21. When I raised my concerns, the mamasan just told me that she is 21. Well, the girl herself told me she was 19, so this did not necessarily increase my trust. They recommended then to go for a ST at the hourly 'hotel' just next door. Well, I left and hit another bar, the Las Vegas. The average there is really average. But there was one girl who caught my attention. She has slightly curled hair and a very nice face. After completion of her dancing round, she joined me. She has a stunner body and a pretty and very interesting face. So, it did not take a long time for me to decide for her. The barfine was 600 Baht again. While walking to my nearby hotel, she wanted sot mething to eat, and I had to buy some squid on a skewer and some shrimps. Damage 140 Baht – far overpaid, but that was probably part of the deal. Next time, I will decide on the food stall. She had offered ST for 2000 and LT for 3500 respectively 3000, 'if you are good', she told me. I replied that I might keep her for LT, in case she performs well. In my room, she continued eating her squid, and I took a shower. She also emptied my fruit basket in the meantime. Then, after she also had taken her shower, she wanted me to give her the condom. I pretended ignorant and said that I don't know what is a 'condom'. She insisted a couple of times and became visibly upset. Then, I told her that I have condoms, but I will take them out and she is not going to control me this way. The continuation was then mixed as was the start. She did not like me licking her tits – probably ticklish. She let me DATY her for a short time. But then, she started to masturbate and was rubbing her clit. I already had fingered her a bit before, but now, she insisted that I fingered her while she was masturbating. Well, why not? So, I tried to massage her G-spot. The combination of masturbating and fingering her sensitive spot was apparently successful. So, she came after only about three minutes. Now, it was my turn. I was a bit tired, and so I did it only in mish, but for quite a while, until I came. Shortly after, she pulled away and run under the shower. I would consider this a pretty average performance of a typical professional. By the way, she had no kid, but hat to pay for her parents.
After her shower, she asked me whether I want LT. But I said that it's good enough and that I need to get up rather early tomorrow. But I wanted to shoot some (non-nude) pictures of her. After doing so, she said that a friend of her had taken a number of non-nude photos of her. If I like, she can give them to me. Well, why not. So she gave me a memory stick with perhaps 200 photos. She is an absolute talent and could easily work as a photo model. Absolutely amazing. The photos were very nicely made, in a semi-professional way. But she could demonstrate a great talent. I will see whether I can get her once for a shooting as well – perhaps even nude. Having said all this, the bad news is that I had to promise not to publish the photos on the Internet. And I respect such wish. When she left my hotel, she gave me her phone number and asked me to call her again when I am in town. Perhaps I will do so – even if it is only for a photo shooting.
In Bangkok, I stayed at the Majestic Grande in Soi 2 (near the Bangkok JW Marriott). This is very convenient in walking distance from NEP, and it is a more upscale hotel. However, this time, it looked like little Bahrain. There were plenty of Arab families. And this pretty conservative environment is not necessarily what you expect for mongering. On the other hand, it was never a problem to bring any girl to the room (I never tried more than one). In half of the cases, they asked for her I'd, in the other cases, nobody asked. The hotel is recommendable if you like some very nice and clean room. It also appears that my room was non-smoking, which is a firm preference for me.
Here also my impression of some bars. Both, Temptations and Casanova bar employ (exclusively?) Ladymen (Katoey). Rainbow 4 is a good place with plenty of girls, some very pretty. However, when I visited the place, there was bad smell (from food or smelly people – or both) , so I did not feel comfortable and had to leave. G-spot is average. But there are some cuties and gems in most of the bars. Sometimes it is even better in a small bar, with one or two beauties.
Most of the bars charge a barfine of 600 baht. The girls usually ask for 2'200 baht for ST and 3'000 baht for LT. This is the standard in most gogo bars. In a few exceptions, the girls charge only 1'500 for ST and 2'500 for LT, and the freelance from Nana Liquid charged 2'200 baht for LT, and of course, there was no barfine. It turned out that the prices are equal in Bangkok and Pattaya (my next station after Bangkok).
Wonderer.
To be continued in the Pattaya section
Perhaps people can talk about HOTELS on the BANGKOK HOTELS THREAD.
Capitalized On
09-04-11, 15:45
There are many scams regarding the taxis. BTW the starting rate was 35 B when I was last there. I had one time a taxi where the meter spun faster than the car wheels. It was 600 B when I reached Suk. I just paid him 300 and told him to call the police if he wanted more. He left. Another one, the guy wanted to fill up his tank. Took him over 2-3 miles (out of the way) to find one. And he kept that on the meter. Also, I have noticed that the 50 B surcharge is not always collected.Since 100 baht is about 3 bucks, people here are quibbling over less than 5 dollars.
I would rather spend less time sitting in a traffic jam, which they are happy to do if the meter is running.
I think if you offer them a fixed rate (which may be twice what the meter says) they will avoid the traffic and get you where you are going faster.
Every time I told them to turn on the meter I ended up sitting in traffic for an hour.
If I told them. I will give you 100 baht (or 200) to take me to XXX- then they always seemed to take back streets and I was there in no time.
So the bottom line is, this is their ONLY WAY to make a living. Of course they are trying to maximize their income- offer them the opportunity to do that and they will be happy and give you a faster ride. What's 3 or 6 bucks extra compared to an hour in BKK traffic jam
Mr Enternational
09-04-11, 16:50
Since 100 baht is about 3 bucks, people here are quibbling over less than 5 dollars. I would rather spend less time sitting in a traffic jam, which they are happy to do if the meter is running. I think if you offer them a fixed rate (which may be twice what the meter says) they will avoid the traffic and get you where you are going faster. Every time I told them to turn on the meter I ended up sitting in traffic for an hour. If I told them. I will give you 100 baht (or 200) to take me to XXX- then they always seemed to take back streets and I was there in no time. So the bottom line is, this is their ONLY WAY to make a living. Of course they are trying to maximize their income- offer them the opportunity to do that and they will be happy and give you a faster ride. What's 3 or 6 bucks extra compared to an hour in BKK traffic jamYou are not making sense. Why would a taxi driver in BKK try to get you stuck in a traffic jam? It is not like New York where the meter will tick fast when sitting. They will make much more while the car is in motion than when it is sitting still. It is a very bad mentality to think you should just go to LOS and throw money around like that. I know it only costs 100, but here is 200. WTF dude? Do you go into McDonald's and pay double the price of a Big Mac thinking they will have yours ready faster and it will be much tastier than everyone else's? Everyone on the planet has his or her way to make a living and are trying to maximize their income. So that is not saying much.
stopped by lollipop in soi 10 . the girl i was with had obviously worked at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s before, as she repeatedly said "please come back to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), no lollipop, soon".hilarious!
on the other hand put yourself in the feet of the girl:
she climbs stairs with a punter and goes in an anonimous room, the punter sits on a couch and pulls down his pants, she gives him a bj and gets hi sload in cim, she gets her money.
off they part way.
this can be anyhwere. she might have lost contact on where she is! .
Since 100 baht is about 3 bucks, people here are quibbling over less than 5 dollars.For me it's not the money. It's the feeling I get after I'm scammed and overcharged. I don't feel good. Currently, I refuse to be scammed (I probably protest too much, but I feel better afterwards).
I would rather spend less time sitting in a traffic jam, which they are happy to do if the meter is running.
I think if you offer them a fixed rate (which may be twice what the meter says) they will avoid the traffic and get you where you are going faster.The above is incorrect. The meter goes very slowly when the taxi is not moving. Many Bangkok taxi drivers will refuse to use the meter when the destination has heavy traffic. Actually, taking a taxi in heavy traffic (with the extra hour sitting in traffic) is a good way to get out of the Bangkok heat.
So the bottom line is, this is their ONLY WAY to make a living.Yes that's correct. They're poor making a lousy wage. That's why most taxi drivers are "Red Shirts".
Somewhere15
09-05-11, 00:35
Mid July and mid August I stayed in Bangkok, both for around one week.
Through Tagged I made some contact and during the weeks before in Southern China and Hong Kong I had regular contact with one particular girl.
In China in some hotels I could make contact with Tagged in other hotels / service apartments the service was blocked by government. So with interruption we had contact and she was willing to send me some pictures by regular e-mail.
On specific questions like 'what do you expect from meeting me in BKK' and 'what are you rules when we meet' she did not give an reaction.
Finally she agreed to meet with me directly after my return to Bangkok what was on a Sunday, beginning of August in the late afternoon / early evening.
She gave me here phone number and during my stay in Hong Kong I send her some SMS to (re) confirm.
One returned to Bangkok I decided not to contact her and waited to see if she would take the first step (she had ask around which time I would arrive in Bangkok).
Playing pool in the late afternoon in Gulliver's with another girl she send me an SMS to check if I was already arrived.
I lied a little and said just there and still unpacking etc. And we agreed to meet within 1, 5 hour at the Landmark terrace.
Not sure if my pool partner was taking my attention or something else but I totally forgot the time and more than one hour after we had SMS contact and she said she was leaving her house (in On Nut).
I left Gulliver's (while rain was starting to give some horrible hours) , so I had to take a cab in Soi 3 to drop me in my Hotel in Soi 6.
Just entering the reception I got a phone call 'where are you'. Uhm. Waiting for the rain, no taxis here so give me another 15 minutes dear.
Around 30 minutes later, after a quick shower (you never know) and changing clothes the taxi dropped me at the Landmark and it was clear with this weather nobody on the terrace. So walking to the tables inside of the Landmark I passed a hot sexy girl and took my phone to call me date and. The hot sexy girl. Waved to me as two old friend who meet again.
After a hug and my compliments I decided to pay her drink and invited her over to the restaurant.
We ordered and had a nice conversation and it was clear for me.
The girl was around mid 20's. 170 cm (with heels) , curvy but not fat and a great personalty, chemistry was building between us.
After the first course I said let we go down to the Huntsman bar what we did.
This gave me the possibility to view her backside and in the bar I took one of the corner places.
It was around 8 PM and only a view people where there.
We continued with some food and drinks but this time we where seated next to each other. Quickly my arm goes around her shoulder and I could feel her breast and bump very well.
Within the next 15 minutes I said let we go to my hotel room there we have more privacy and. She only smiled.
In the taxi (it was still raining, raining and raining) I kissed her neck and she also gave some attention to my extras and in the elevator we started tongue kissing. In the room we immediately go down on the couch and we touched each other nicely and for a very long time while parts of the clothes where coming down. We had a shower for around 15 minutes and after that we continued on the bed. Nearly all positions that I ever did where on the menu and I came at least 2 times into the next hours.
We even slept for a while and around midnight I started the conversation what she had to do the next day. She said nothing particular and she asked me and what about you. I started a story that I had some conference calls the next day so it would be better if we slept separate. Not sure if she was fine or disappointed with that but we agreed that we would meet again as I was in Bangkok for 10 days.
We continued with sex for another hours or so, she allowed me more or less everything but no anal and I asked if I could come in her mount, she gave me only a smile and around 10 minutes later she got the full load.
Normally, in my experience, girls go quickly after this to the bathroom and spiff it out but she sucked me for another 5 minutes and left down in my arm. My Tagged girl.
I gave her 1. 500 THB (nothing about money was discussed ever before) for taxi.
Sorry no pictures. I try to meet her again and will try to get her for LT or even for some days.
Mr Enternational
09-05-11, 00:42
Yes that's correct. They're poor making a lousy wage. That's why most taxi drivers are "Red Shirts".As I said in the Pattaya thread a couple of days ago. I have a girl who is a taxi driver in BKK. She owns her car. She works from 9pm - 3am. She makes 50,000 - 60,000 baht / month. And that is a lot of fucking money when compared to the average Thai. So don't be so quick to feel sorry for everybody and throw your money around all willy nilly.
Mr Enternational
09-05-11, 00:53
Through Tagged I made some contact and during the weeks before in Southern China and Hong Kong I had regular contact with one particular girl.
We continued with sex for another hours or so, she allowed me more or less everything but no anal and I asked if I could come in her mount, she gave me only a smile and around 10 minutes later she got the full load.
I gave her 1. 500 THB (nothing about money was discussed ever before) for taxi.I enjoyed your story all the way to the end until I saw that you gave a normal girl that you met on the internet (not a bar, not a gogo, not even a disco) 1,500 baht after sex. Why if I may ask?
Somewhere15
09-05-11, 00:57
Two of my girlfriends, the 3 of use had a nice afternoon and a funny evening, played pool for some hours, had a nice meal and I tried to make clear to them both that I wanted to continuing with then (together) afterwards.
The girl in blue I fucked her already several times, for free and on a certain moment she said we should not meet again because you only want sex and I want a boyfriend.
For her it was always clear that I was a traveler and stayed sometime for some days or even weeks in Bangkok but back home I have another live so what I do abroad is pure hobby.
This afternoon it was the blue girl who send me an SMS asking me to come over and meet again.
When we meet I learned that she was with the other (green) girl.
Over the hours that followed I joked with them, touched them even and tried to make them ready for the action afterwards.
After dinner the girl who I had fucked before said let we go to you place but my reaction was I want you both, then she moved her girlfriend to me and said you can go with her.
Although this girl had a great body and cute bump, made clear that she sometimes needed some extra's but I wanted them both.
I continued with no let we go together etc and on that moment another girlfriend (a older one who I met before as well but never had sex with, she was not my type) passed by.
The blue girl said okay the 3 of us will go with you. I was a little upset, on a certain moment months ago she and her girlfriend we ended (also after dinner) on my room, on the couch we started kissing and she sended her girlfriend away after I made clear (on that time) that I wanted to continue only with one girl.
I made them clear that this was probably even for my hotel to much (me and 3 girls) but that I still wanted to continue with the 2 of them.
Finally she did not agree, pushed the two girlfriend out of the door and left me alone in the restaurant. Hope for another time. With one or both to them.
Somewhere15
09-05-11, 01:00
I enjoyed your story all the way to the end until I saw that you gave a normal girl that you met on the internet (not a bar, not a gogo, not even a disco) 1,500 baht after sex. Why if I may ask?That question came (later) also in my mind. I think more or less as compensation for the time and attention that she gave to me. End yes not all Bangkok girls are hockers but many of them. Are familiar with "making some extra money and. Enjoy there time"
Lover Boy #2
09-05-11, 01:02
As for attitude, if you are referring to the TGs at the NCP, I'm not sure how you would know if, in your own words, you do "not hang out there".I don't hang out there now and I don't make picks from there. Just my personal thing (not looking down or judging anyone who does). All the ladyboys (more recently) and the general commotion is not my style. I have been there with friends who came to visit and wanted to see the action and I have walked by going to a friend's apartment on the same soi. I did make a pick there a few years back. It was raining hard (big fon tok) and I really didn't want any company. One girl was very forward. So I told her 500b. I was surprised she said Ok. And I was anticipating some sort of problem. There really wasn't any. Except she really was not my usual "type". I hope this answers your question.
Somewhere15
09-05-11, 01:13
Just some hours before leaving Bangkok (flight to Europe are always going around 11:00 PM or even later) around 3 PM I met this hotty with her girlfriend in Guillivers, they where eating and playing pool. I was eating on another table.
They agreed to play also with / against me and after the girlfriend left I invited her for some fun to my room.
She mentioned something like yah but. And I said. I leave tonight and have some Thai money over.
Nice foreplay, funny unclothing and a long shower where I even tried to fuck her anal in the shower. She said that she never did this (what I believe) and we continued on the bed.
Funny girl and a good way for saying au revoir to my beloved country.
Gave her 2. 000 (mostly my maximum in Bangkok) and. Hold the rest of my Thai billets for next time.
I enjoyed your story all the way to the end until I saw that you gave a normal girl that you met on the internet (not a bar, not a gogo, not even a disco) 1,500 baht after sex. Why if I may ask?He said it was for a taxi. She had a long ride home.
Member #4152
09-05-11, 03:41
Hey guys.
So I'm trying to do as much research on Bangkok and Pattaya as I can for my trip to Thailand in a couple of months. So far I've come to a conclusion that Soi Cowboy is the place to go in Bangkok? If someone has other ideas of where to monger and a good decent hotel in that area, that would be greatly appreciated. I've been to the Philippines several times and I'm into the gogo scene where you can BF a girl, get them drunk and have a GFE with them at your hotel.
Thanks,
Chimmy
Wolvenvacht
09-05-11, 07:25
So far I've come to a conclusion that Soi Cowboy is the place to go in Bangkok? If someone has other ideas of where to monger and a good decent hotel in that area, that would be greatly appreciated. I've been to the Philippines several times and I'm into the gogo scene where you can BF a girl, get them drunk and have a GFE with them at your hotel.I found Soi Cowboy indeed a nice place to hunt. In June there were not too much mongers around, if you stay out of places such as Bacara where there are always too much Japanese staring at the girls dancing on the glass floor upstairs. .
Many a-gogo places to visit. Suzie Wong being my favourite on account of the fact that they dance full frontal nude, so you get to sample the wares on offer. Easy to make contact with the girls, but they are not pushy or hustling you. In exchange for a lady-drink, some discrete touching is surely possible. If you sit next to the dance "floor", some girls might even include you into their routine. The chance to give some quick licks on a bare pussy is always there, to the great enjoyment (and cheers) of the customers.
I stayed at the Citadines apart hotel right around the corner in Sukhumvit Soi 23. Perfectly girl friendly, within easy walking distance and secure: your teerac for the night has to hand in her I'd card, so it is unlikely she will try any funny stunts on you or your belongings. Beautiful ladies at the reception too, though I doubt they are available for some fun.
But I advise against getting your girl drunk, chances are she will just pass out in your room. You will get a GFE as integral part of the LT routine, at least that was my experience.
Lover Boy #2
09-05-11, 08:02
Reminds me of my long distant past when I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia. A real helhole on Earth.
Had a vacation in Bali and met a cute Aussie girl (I guess there were such creatures then, never been with a white girl since ).
We pledged undying love at the end of the vacation, she went back to Aussie and I went to Hellhole Arabia. We kept in contact and one day I got a message from my local post office that there was a package, and there was a "problem " with my package.
Arrive at PO and the sweet Saudi fellows (women can't work in Saudi!) had opened my package and found 4 maybe 5 pairs of female panties, some with nice watery stains. The Saudi postal worker said " why for you get package with this porno". I suggested it wasnt porno and was just female panties. He asked repeatedly "why why why ".
I suggested it had been sent to me so I could masterbate all over them, thinking of the hot chick who had been wearing them. He said " no, its illegal, you can't have."
And with that he threw my girls panties in his bin, and told me to go.Allahu Akbar.
No masturbating *****!
Member #4152
09-05-11, 08:20
I found Soi Cowboy indeed a nice place to hunt. In June there were not too much mongers around, if you stay out of places such as Bacara where there are always too much Japanese staring at the girls dancing on the glass floor upstairs. .
Many a-gogo places to visit. Suzie Wong being my favourite on account of the fact that they dance full frontal nude, so you get to sample the wares on offer. Easy to make contact with the girls, but they are not pushy or hustling you. In exchange for a lady-drink, some discrete touching is surely possible. If you sit next to the dance "floor", some girls might even include you into their routine. The chance to give some quick licks on a bare pussy is always there, to the great enjoyment (and cheers) of the customers.
I stayed at the Citadines apart hotel right around the corner in Sukhumvit Soi 23. Perfectly girl friendly, within easy walking distance and secure: your teerac for the night has to hand in her I'd card, so it is unlikely she will try any funny stunts on you or your belongings. Beautiful ladies at the reception too, though I doubt they are available for some fun.
But I advise against getting your girl drunk, chances are she will just pass out in your room. You will get a GFE as integral part of the LT routine, at least that was my experience.Thanks bro.
I'm a pretty young dude that I think is above average in looks. I can get girls in the states easy but I really really really enjoy mongering LOL. Maybe I have a problem? I dunno but I don't know if I can ever stop LOL.
My friend told me about his trip to Pattaya which is suppose to be a lot like Angeles in the Philippines. Should I do that first? Or is Soi Cowboy your favorite? I also heard of Nana and Patpong. I can't wait for this trip FYI. Even though I'm from the West Coast where there's like millions of asians, I've never even seen a real life Thai girl so I don't really know what to expect except from the pics posted to this page. I've met all the other races except Thai. I'm planning to go in November or January.
LittleBigMan
09-05-11, 13:26
Jimmy31,
West Coast and with millions of Asians and you never seen a Thai girl? Where you living? In the Sierra's?
L. A. Has a huge population, there is a community in San Bruno, there is a community in Berkeley and Oakland. Several of the massage parlors in S. F. Tenderlion area have them.
LBM
I'm a pretty young dude that I think is above average in looks. I can get girls in the states easy but I really really really enjoy mongering LOL. Maybe I have a problem? I dunno but I don't know if I can ever stop LOL. My friend told me about his trip to Pattaya which is suppose to be a lot like Angeles in the Philippines. Should I do that first? Or is Soi Cowboy your favorite?Sounds like Patts should be your first stop as its "over the top" for mongering. BKK is a bit more subtle. BTW, we all have that problem...
Thanks bro.
I'm a pretty young dude that I think is above average in looks. I can get girls in the states easy but I really really really enjoy mongering LOL. Maybe I have a problem? I dunno but I don't know if I can ever stop LOL.
My friend told me about his trip to Pattaya which is suppose to be a lot like Angeles in the Philippines. Should I do that first? Or is Soi Cowboy your favorite? I also heard of Nana and Patpong. I can't wait for this trip FYI. Even though I'm from the West Coast where there's like millions of asians, I've never even seen a real life Thai girl so I don't really know what to expect except from the pics posted to this page. I've met all the other races except Thai. I'm planning to go in November or January.There are many on the escort sites.
If not, walk into one of the 1000 Thai restaurants on the west coast and there usually is at least one working there. Many times, a cute one.
Was in Bangkok recently on a short visit, but managed to cram in four sessions / five girls in the four days I was there! .
In-Room Massage
The first encounter was an unexpected and pleasant surprise. My favourite Dulaya Spa had closed down so I booked a massage in the hotel. I expected to have to go up to the Spa but was told that the girl would be sent down to my room – pleasant surprise no. 1. When the masseuse turned up at my door, instead of the sumo-like old bag I was expecting, she turned out to be young, petite and pretty – pleasant surprise no. 2.
I had booked a 90-minute massage and the first 40 minutes or so passed by quite conventionally – reasonably good massage skills, nice oil, friendly girl so a fair bit of chat along with it. Flipped over for the second half of the massage and things started to get interesting as her hands began to 'accidentally' brush my bits-and-pieces as she massaged the insides of my thighs. Hey-ho, I thought to myself, this is starting to look promising. With that thought and the ongoing 'accidental' contact, nature took its course and my towel started to rise up in a tent formation, duly noted by the masseuse with a little smile. She was a naughty girl, this one, and liked to tease so she carried on doing what she was doing without any reference to the raging boner I had by now.
After a minute or so, she pointed to the tentpole with a twinkle in her eye and asked whether I wanted to be 'massaged' there too. Of course, said I, but went on to express my great sadness that only a 'massage' was on offer. Pleasant surprise no. 3, to my delight, turned out to be that everything was on offer – at a price (of course.). The prices, though, were not surprising nor pleasant. Knowing a captive audience when she saw it, my girl quoted an outrageous price for FS and only a slightly less ridiculous rate for a BJ. Negotiations went on for some time, albeit in good humour, and we eventually agreed an amount for her getting naked and blowing me. I definitely over-paid, but I'm a bit of a sucker like that in the heat of the moment and being of a generous disposition in general.
Lovely, lithe little body when the masseuse-uniform came off. Creamy skin, perky little tits topped off by delicious light-brown nipples and neat little curls in the strike zone. Started off with a nice body-to-body, plenty of nibbling here and there and some LFK. The BBBJ (she tried to go CBJ but I stood firm on that, given the price I was paying) was very pleasant too – not expert but good for an amateur: nice suction, plenty of licking and a little tongue-fluttering thrown in for good measure. I had sworn faithfully not to come in her mouth, so finished off humping her legs (a perversion I blame on my private-school upbringing) and spunking all over her smooth thighs.
Annies
Dropped in at Annie's the next day for a pre-booked appointment with N, whom I had last met in January 2010. She looked pretty much the same as last time, except for a shorter haircut. I was gobsmacked that she remembered me, especially since I had forgotten that it was her I had seen on my last visit to Annies and only realized when she greeted me with 'do you remember me'. Big time brownie-points to N on that score.
The session was excellent. Superb soapy, followed by relaxed, un-rushed sex. She came as I went down on her this time and tasted great. Very skilled BBBJ and when I went inside her, she was wet and tight. Wanted to finish off with a COF like last time but she seems to not do that anymore, so aimed for the chest instead.
Lovely girl, lovely session.
Soi Cowboy / Shark Bar
Having posted on the forum asking whether Soi Cowboy was still alive and kicking, I thought I had better go along and see for myself. Very relieved to see that everything appeared as normal when I got there. Shark was pretty busy with a lot of Japanese tourists in on the night. As usual, plenty of eye-candy on display on the stage and the hostesses outside were as friendly as ever, although the service inside seemed quite aloof compared to previous visits.
After a couple of beers and taking in the sights, I signaled one of the girls on stage to come over. She was tall, caramel complexion, lustrous wavy hair, cupid's bow lips and had a lovely smile. Her English wasn't all that good but she was friendly and fun. She asked if her friend could join and I said why not. The friend reminded me of a Thai version of the actress Jennifer Carpenter, whom I lust after whenever I watch Dexter, so I was happy to have join us. Her English was much better than the first girls and she had a hilarious sense of humour. Stayed on in the bar for another hour or so, had a few whiskies and B52 shots with the girls and decided to barfine both of them.
Dropped in at Long Gun on the way back to the hotel to take in the show, which was excellent as always. The usual waste of time arguing with the taxi drivers about the fare back to the hotel and eventually made it back to my suite. A few more drinks with the girls, who were both quite drunk by now, helped oil the social interaction even more and by the time we got to bed the three of us were having a good laugh together.
The sex was good fun too. Great BBBJ from the first girl, enjoyed eating her out too – she came pretty quickly, always a good sign. Really enjoyed DFK with her as well, those soft, full lips of hers were perfect for kissing (and blowing.). The second girl was enthusiastic and willing but not as good as the first one in her skills. Lovely pair of legs on her, though. Bounced around with the two of them for quite a while and enjoyed seeing the them play with each other too. Eventually couldn't hold on any more and blew my load all over girl no. 1's mouth while girl no. 2 licked my balls. No. 1 swallowed some of the gunk and No. 2 licked the rest of it off No. 1's face, to my eternal gratitude for the imagery.
Had agreed the price for two rounds since there were two of them, but I was knackered so sent them off with another giggle, a cuddle and a snog at the door.
Had some fun taking photos too but they turned camera-shy when we hit the bed.
EZ Massage on Soi 24
Saw a banner ad for EZ Massage on Stickman's site and decided to pop in as I was staying on Soi 24 and had an afternoon to kill before flying out.
Walked up a flight of stairs to a bright and clean reception area. Friendly guy behind the counter and a very friendly hostess came out to show me the photo album. Wanted Natalee (a scrummy little chocolate number) but she wasn't available (will pre-book her next time) so picked Emmy, who looked like an innocent little schoolgirl. She turned out to be a 19 year-old university student from Chiang Mai with that lovely porcelain complexion that the up-country girls all seem to have and a sweet smile. Quite skinny but the babydoll face sold me.
2400 Baht for a 2 hour session. 2200 for 90 minutes. 2000 for an hour. I had a car picking me up in two hours to go to the airport so I went for the 90-minute session.
The massage room was tidy and clean, with a mattress on the floor and a shower cubicle in the corner. Had a shower first, she followed and then started the massage using aromatherapy oil. Not a bad massage for such a skinny little thing but not special either – in any case the massage wasn't the reason I was there so I didn't really care.
After about 60 minutes of massage her towel came off to reveal a slender, willowy body as it had seemed with the clothes on. Barely more than a couple of fried eggs in the chest area but the overall look had a sexy appeal of its own. I like variety anyway, so was quite happy.
Think she is very new at the game and inexperienced to go with it so I thought I better take the lead and warm her up first. Conversation wasn't really a possibility as her English was pretty poor and my Thai abysmal so I decided to head for my sure-fire winner: go down on her. She tasted really good – fresh, soaking wet and a very pretty set of labia. She really got into too and went off into a bit of a trance, it seemed. Unfortunately, although she seemed right on the edge several times, she wouldn't come and after about 15 minutes of lapping away, I decided to be selfish and stop or I wouldn't have had any attention to my own needs.
It's got to be said, her inexperience came through when it came to performance. The CBJ was a bit of cheesegrater and she didn't really look too comfortable in CG, so I thought I better just flip her into Mish and get it over with asap, which is just what I did. She was a cute girl and didn't lack for attitude but the skills just aren't there yet.
So, lessons learned from my first EZ experience: pick a more experienced girl (which is a common sense rule of thumb in any case, I guess) , go for the two hour session and make sure the massage ends with at least half the time left.
Will definitely return though as I just have to sample Natalee.
Satrai2000
09-05-11, 17:53
Thanks bro.
I'm a pretty young dude that I think is above average in looks. I can get girls in the states easy but I really really really enjoy mongering LOL. Maybe I have a problem? I dunno but I don't know if I can ever stop LOL.Aren't we all smart, handsome and above average in looks?
However may I remind you of the very fact that this board deals with pay-for-pleasure, p4p, in which things other than looks are more important.
Member #4152
09-05-11, 18:58
Thanks fellas,
I think Pattayas it is, walking street right? I'm thinking of going in October, the weather should be alright? There's other things to do when not mongering as well? Ya, where I'm at, I see a lot of Koreans, Viets, Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos but no Thais unless I'm just over looking them. My flight will have a layover in Seoul as well, so I'll probably do something for a day in Seoul. Or maybe I'll do some days in Pattaya and some days in Bangkok, I'm actually really excited now LOL.
Wolvenvacht
09-05-11, 19:06
There's other things to do when not mongering as well?Sure, one of the most exciting things (with my clothes on) was the "Flight of the Gibbon" zip-line adventure in the rainforest. Google it, you wil not be disappointed. Not very cheap (about the price of an average LT) , but it is all included.
Wolvenvacht
09-05-11, 19:27
My friend told me about his trip to Pattaya which is suppose to be a lot like Angeles in the Philippines. Should I do that first? Or is Soi Cowboy your favorite? I also heard of Nana and Patpong.I have never been to Angeles, so I cannot really comment. Pattaya is everything you can imagine, everything except being subtle about it. If you cannot find anything Asian you like there, you will not find it anywhere.
Nana is too crowded and busy to my liking, but YMMV. Soi Cowboy is more to my taste. Patpong is for tourists and really in decline I hear.
Member #4698
09-05-11, 20:23
my friend told me about his trip to pattaya which is suppose to be a lot like angeles in the philippines. should i do that first? or is soi cowboy your favorite? i also heard of nana and patpong. i can't wait for this trip fyi. even though i'm from the west coast where there's like millions of asians, i've never even seen a real life thai girl so i don't really know what to expect except from the pics posted to this page. i've met all the other races except thai. i'm planning to go in november or january.
i'm trying to do as much research on bangkok and pattaya as i can for my trip to thailand in a couple of months. so far i've come to a conclusion that soi cowboy is the place to go in bangkok? if someone has other ideas of where to monger, that would be greatly appreciated. i've been to the philippines several times and i'm into the gogo scene where you can bf a girl, get them drunk and have a gfe with them at your hotel.chimney, first do yourself a real favor and rtff! i do and you should too. go back at least a year and read forward. second, as to your question of where you should go: pattaya or bkk? my answer is, it depends. it depends on how long you plan to travel, your financial situation and your preferences towards the girls. you say you have been to the philippines. well bkk is kind of like manila – a big city with many venues and locations. it is not just nana and cowboy. there are the oily message parlors on upper sukhumvit and the soapy massage parlors rep001tered a little to the north. rtff! i think bkk is a lot better than manila because it has better food, it is safer, it is easier to get around, it offers more in the way of recreational tourist things to do in the daytime, and most important, the girls are better looking on average. imho.
pattaya and ac are comparable, except that pattaya is huge compared to fields and perimeter. pattaya has many, many more bars and roughly 10x as many girls. pattaya is safer than ac and i can't believe i am saying this; it is less seedy than ac. pattaya has pretensions of being a beach resort. stand on beach road and look out at the bay and it looks pretty good (although the water is polluted so go to jomtien if you want an ocean swim). ac has no pretensions. ac is pretty much a dump and i love ac for just that reason. but most guys would probably say pattaya is better than ac and you really should go to pattaya if you have never been there. the two advantages ac has over pattaya are prices (1500p to 3000p vs. 1500bk to 3000bk for go go girls) and the girls all speak english. pattaya girls speak some english. that is a big difference, but sometimes less is more.
so come to thailand. end of story. it will change your whole perpsective on women. now, if you have two weeks; then i would suggest a week in bkk and a week in pattaya. if you have less than two weeks, then pick one or the other. you can't go wrong with either destination, but for bkk you should do a little more homework. read up on the soapies and the oilies so you can sample all that is on the plate. cowboy and nana are great, but don't wait for your second or third trip to visit a massage parlor. for pattaya, just get your ass down to walking street at 8pm with a short list of go go's to check out. no further preparation is really necessary although you should know about devil's den, soi 6, and the ubiquitous beer bars. just to give you an idea, cowboy is maybe 2 blocks long. the walking street area is at least 10 times larger. happy hunting.
Since 100 baht is about 3 bucks, people here are quibbling over less than 5 dollars.
I would rather spend less time sitting in a traffic jam, which they are happy to do if the meter is running.
I think if you offer them a fixed rate (which may be twice what the meter says) they will avoid the traffic and get you where you are going faster.
Every time I told them to turn on the meter I ended up sitting in traffic for an hour.
If I told them. I will give you 100 baht (or 200) to take me to XXX- then they always seemed to take back streets and I was there in no time.
So the bottom line is, this is their ONLY WAY to make a living. Of course they are trying to maximize their income- offer them the opportunity to do that and they will be happy and give you a faster ride. What's 3 or 6 bucks extra compared to an hour in BKK traffic jamWhile I agree with your first point about the 100 Baht, the rest is based on a very wrong assumption.
Taxis do not make good money running on the meter in a traffic jam. The rate per minute is too low. You will find that the driver is getting frustrated too. Taxis will always try for fast moving routes in preference, even if the total distance is much further, unless he genuinely trying to minimise your bill (yes this does happen too). So the true danger of running on the meter is when the taxi takes a route that is twice as far in order to avoid traffic. If that truelly gets you there faster, then great. Otherwise you end with a much higher bill and perhaps taking longer as well.
Traffic jams are bad for both driver and for passenger. Sometimes the taxi will refuse a destination based on knowing the traffic jams involved. Then you will need to offer a generous but fair amount without the meter. But beware of parked drivers looking for a chump.
On the other hand I sometimes have to tell him to fucking well take the freeway, and I don't care if it costs more, I just want tot get there as fast as possible.
Thanks fellas,
I think Pattayas it is, walking street right? I'm thinking of going in October, the weather should be alright? There's other things to do when not mongering as well? Ya, where I'm at, I see a lot of Koreans, Viets, Chinese, Japanese and Filipinos but no Thais unless I'm just over looking them. My flight will have a layover in Seoul as well, so I'll probably do something for a day in Seoul. Or maybe I'll do some days in Pattaya and some days in Bangkok, I'm actually really excited now LOL.Walking Street NO. Stay away from there and you will have a much better time.
Member #4698
09-06-11, 03:39
Walking Street NO. Stay away from there and you will have a much better time.L, I am not 100% sure if you are really serious or just being facetious. And if I can't tell, then Chimmy might not get the humor at all. Come on, you are not really telling the guy to stay away from Walking Street on his first visit to Pattaya are you? Why not advise him to go to Pakistan instead of Thailand? The P4P is so much better and cheaper too. He might get kidnapped and get his head cut off, but it's all good.
L, I am not 100% sure if you are really serious or just being facetious. And if I can't tell, then Chimmy might not get the humor at all. Come on, you are not really telling the guy to stay away from Walking Street on his first visit to Pattaya are you? Why not advise him to go to Pakistan instead of Thailand? The P4P is so much better and cheaper too. He might get kidnapped and get his head cut off, but it's all good.I would actually tell him to go to Walking Street, walk through it, and keep walking toward Sois 10-2, Beach Road, Second Road areas.
If you like rip offs, bad dancers, upsells, LD's, Lboys, overpriced girls, many many tourists, smoke, extremely loud music, over priced restaurants, and low lifes, then spend your trip on WS.
I love Pattaya, not WS.
LittleBigMan
09-06-11, 05:13
Look! It is his vacation! At the same time we tell him to RTFF and then we tell him to stay away? How is this kid going to learn anything if you protect him? He lives in the West Coast with millions or Asians and haven't even met a Thai girl. He said he is young and good looking and so far gotten away with not meeting a Thai girl. We want him to be safe sure but let the boy go wild? After hours on a long flight and then traveling all the way to Pattaya and not going to Walking St. Good or bad is like going to Daiseyland for the first time, parking outside, and turning around and going down the road to Knottsberry Farm.
Let the boy enjoy himself and RTFF as recommended and let him report back as to what he experience? Just don't tell us you are getting married and payng money for the sick buffaloe?
LBM
Thanks bro.
I'm a pretty young dude that I think is above average in looks. I can get girls in the states easy but I really really really enjoy mongering LOL. Maybe I have a problem? I dunno but I don't know if I can ever stop LOL.
My friend told me about his trip to Pattaya which is suppose to be a lot like Angeles in the Philippines. Should I do that first? Or is Soi Cowboy your favorite? I also heard of Nana and Patpong. I can't wait for this trip FYI. Even though I'm from the West Coast where there's like millions of asians, I've never even seen a real life Thai girl so I don't really know what to expect except from the pics posted to this page. I've met all the other races except Thai. I'm planning to go in November or January.I have posted a couple of Bangkok reports. Check them out, they may be helpful to you
Member #4152
09-06-11, 06:03
chimney, first do yourself a real favor and rtff! i do and you should too. go back at least a year and read forward. second, as to your question of where you should go: pattaya or bkk? my answer is, it depends. it depends on how long you plan to travel, your financial situation and your preferences towards the girls. you say you have been to the philippines. well bkk is kind of like manila – a big city with many venues and locations. it is not just nana and cowboy. there are the oily message parlors on upper sukhumvit and the soapy massage parlors rep001tered a little to the north. rtff! i think bkk is a lot better than manila because it has better food, it is safer, it is easier to get around, it offers more in the way of recreational tourist things to do in the daytime, and most important, the girls are better looking on average. imho.
pattaya and ac are comparable, except that pattaya is huge compared to fields and perimeter. pattaya has many, many more bars and roughly 10x as many girls. pattaya is safer than ac and i can't believe i am saying this; it is less seedy than ac. pattaya has pretensions of being a beach resort. stand on beach road and look out at the bay and it looks pretty good (although the water is polluted so go to jomtien if you want an ocean swim). ac has no pretensions. ac is pretty much a dump and i love ac for just that reason. but most guys would probably say pattaya is better than ac and you really should go to pattaya if you have never been there. the two advantages ac has over pattaya are prices (1500p to 3000p vs. 1500bk to 3000bk for go go girls) and the girls all speak english. pattaya girls speak some english. that is a big difference, but sometimes less is more.
so come to thailand. end of story. it will change your whole perpsective on women. now, if you have two weeks; then i would suggest a week in bkk and a week in pattaya. if you have less than two weeks, then pick one or the other. you can't go wrong with either destination, but for bkk you should do a little more homework. read up on the soapies and the oilies so you can sample all that is on the plate. cowboy and nana are great, but don't wait for your second or third trip to visit a massage parlor. for pattaya, just get your ass down to walking street at 8pm with a short list of go go's to check out. no further preparation is really necessary although you should know about devil's den, soi 6, and the ubiquitous beer bars. just to give you an idea, cowboy is maybe 2 blocks long. the walking street area is at least 10 times larger. happy hunting.thanks man,
very helpful! i ain't really down with the oily massage places and soapy massages because we have a lot of korean amps down here that i presume are similar? at the korean amps i can pretty much do whatevers but ymmv. i don't have a gf yet but i'm talking to someone and it's almost about that time i settle down and start a family. so i'm trying to get all this mongering out of my system before it's too late! lol i make pretty good money in the states and i don't really spend it unless i travel so money reallly isn't a problem. but i do hate being ripped off and i'm a value shopper! love getting the most bang for the buck! i read about devil's den which is pretty dope. here in the states, a lot of pro vietnamese girls offer anal for a price or when their v is just too sore because of all the abuse lol.
i also really want to hit up thailand because of all the debates between manila and bangkok, angeles and pataya and you really talked about it even before i asked! what really confuses me is all the soi's like from 1-50 lol or whatever the numbers are. also like soi diamond, soi cowboy, etc. i'm also afraid of my one day layover in seoul, korea and getting some action there because most of the time on these trips, i fuck so much and so hard i get sick of it lol. for example, i just got back from manila a couple of weeks ago and i still didn't get the urge to wack off or do a girl yet! i know nothing is wrong with me cause i get tested for everything everytime i get back (got to make use of that health insurance my company offers) , it's just that banging it out 2 or 3 times a day, every day on a trip can take its tole! lol
Member #4152
09-06-11, 06:07
I would actually tell him to go to Walking Street, walk through it, and keep walking toward Sois 10-2, Beach Road, Second Road areas.
If you like rip offs, bad dancers, upsells, LD's, Lboys, overpriced girls, many many tourists, smoke, extremely loud music, over priced restaurants, and low lifes, then spend your trip on WS.
I love Pattaya, not WS.Well, thanks for the look out man! I ain't into Ladyboys at all! I actually almost got into a fight with one down in Ermita, Philippines because She / he wouldn't leave me alone and kept grabbing my arm while I was walking to Manila Bay Cafe. I am into music and dancing but I'm also into good deals for cute to hot girls. So I guess Sois 10-2, Beach Road and Second Roads is it then!
Thanks Luvpuss =)
Well, thanks for the look out man! < So I guess Sois 10-2, Beach Road and Second Roads is it then!
Thanks Luvpuss =) What a shame that if you listen to Mr. Luvpuss, you'll miss out on Walking Street, the focal point of Pattaya and the place where most of the better looking pussy can be found. I've lived in Pattaya for 4 years now and don't go anywhere else for entertainment.
There are ladyboys everywhere in Pattaya. If you ignore them they'll leave you alone.
For a young guy like you, I think you'll find Walking Street paradise on Earth.
LittleBigMan
09-06-11, 09:19
What a shame that if you listen to Mr. Luvpuss, you'll miss out on Walking Street, the focal point of Pattaya and the place where most of the better looking pussy can be found. I've lived in Pattaya for 4 years now and don't go anywhere else for entertainment.
There are ladyboys everywhere in Pattaya. If you ignore them they'll leave you alone.
For a young guy like you, I think you'll find Walking Street paradise on Earth.Daddy07,
As the King of Jomtien, and maybe in need of another adopted son, why don't you take the kid under your wings and show him the ropes around paradise.
LBM
FreebieFan
09-06-11, 09:38
Thanks man,
Very someone and it's almost about that time I settle down and start a family. So I'm trying to get all this mongering out of my system before it's too late!In our past we all had this fabulous idea that we will score a lot, get married and the itch will never re-appear.
Let me state the "itch" is like a herpes virus, just waiting to get you again, and sure enough a few years after being married, it breaks out in a big lustful rash and from then on, you want to go back acting as thought you were single and banging all in sight at every opportunity. You salivate when the boss says "theres a conference and its in BKK ", you agree to do the sales calls in Manila even though its not your turf, you volunteer for Jakarta trips etcetc. Once in the blood, that itch NEVER goes away. Rich or poor. Its there for good!
Daddy07,
As the King of Jomtien, and maybe in need of another adopted son, why don't you take the kid under your wings and show him the ropes around paradise.
LBM'Cause he doesn't need a geezer to hold his hand. All he needs to do is RTFF, take a few notes, arrive with a good attitude, be his own man, explore, and have fun.
Member #4152
09-06-11, 11:43
What a shame that if you listen to Mr. Luvpuss, you'll miss out on Walking Street, the focal point of Pattaya and the place where most of the better looking pussy can be found. I've lived in Pattaya for 4 years now and don't go anywhere else for entertainment.
There are ladyboys everywhere in Pattaya. If you ignore them they'll leave you alone.
For a young guy like you, I think you'll find Walking Street paradise on Earth.Ya, I won't avoid Walking Street either. Bright lights call to me LOL. As long as the pussy as that fresh smell, I'm down for whatevers! LOL BTW, what do you guys do during the day? Can't have sex 24-7 now can we? LOL
I'll be in BKK in a couple of months but will only have a day free for mongering and the Eden Club has long been on my list of places to visit. Searching for it shows no posts in a long time. Is it still open? Worth a visit still?
Thanks
.BTW, what do you guys do during the day? Can't have sex 24-7 now can we? LOLOf course not. We just hold each other's dick and wank away. What did you think we did?
Marie Noudle
09-06-11, 17:41
I'll be in BKK in a couple of months but will only have a day free for mongering and the Eden Club has long been on my list of places to visit. Searching for it shows no posts in a long time. Is it still open? Worth a visit still?
ThanksVeloman, Eden is still alive. Here is the link to Eden http://*************.com/
Hey guys.
So I'm trying to do as much research on Bangkok and Pattaya as I can for my trip to Thailand in a couple of months. So far I've come to a conclusion that Soi Cowboy is the place to go in Bangkok? If someone has other ideas of where to monger and a good decent hotel in that area, that would be greatly appreciated. I've been to the Philippines several times and I'm into the gogo scene where you can BF a girl, get them drunk and have a GFE with them at your hotel.
Thanks,
Chimmy
Dear Chimmy31, when taking into consideration the opinions and suggestions that people offer on this forum, I humbly suggest the following: you must try to understand who are the expats and/or long timers, and who are the newbies or “once in a while” guys.
Those with a lot of mileage will generally warn you about a lot of stuff, complain about prices and locals, rip-offs, stupid tourists, and such.
They are often right in their assessments.
They speak from experience, they have to manage their finances, and they don’t feel like a kid in a candy store anymore.
Those who only visit every now and then will generally marvel at the beauty of the girls, the cheap prices, the overall fun they had, the nice locals.
They are often right in their assessments.
On holiday for a few days, you feel like a kid in a candy store, don’t know if you’re being cheated 20 baht, don’t really care anyway.
If you take the time to read the last 20 pages of the Pattaya thread you’ll find a lot of ecstatic reports, and a lot of moaning.
It happens everywhere around the world and everywhere on the ISG threads.
An example.
I, Ryo Saeba, who lives in Europe and went to Pattaya for the first time last year, would strongly recommend any newbie to go to Baccara gogo in Pattaya and spend 2.000 baht on a basket of ping pong balls.
It’s funny as hell and an experience you’ll remember fondly for the rest of your life. You’ll probably not repeat it, but should try at least once.
But I doubt you’d find many expats encouraging you to do the same.
Who’s right, who’s wrong. There isn’t right or wrong.
I think as someone who’s already spent about 1.500 euros in flight and accommodation alone: what’s 50 more for trying something I may never have the chance again?
The expat thinks as someone who sees 2.000 baht as the equivalent of 3 or more Beach Rd girls.
It’s up to you to understand and evaluate the vision of which group you are most likely to share.
Of course, you MUST READ THE FUCKING FORUM.
My apologies to all for oversimplifying a concept which would otherwise require an extremely long and detailed dissertation.
With the best intentions,
Ryo
Remember a post about Bangkok Beat, in which a bad band was mentioned. I was in Bangkok Beat last night.
Some renovation was done since my last visit, the bar was moved, the customer seats area is now better situated opposite of the stage. Quite well done.
Back to the band that one playing until midnight is not worth to be mentioned. But afterwards an awesome band plays (yesterday approx. Until 2 am, sadly the late night spots close right now at around 2 am, government order, we usually have this phenomenon around election times). The band is possibly the best I have ever heard in Bangkok. The drummer was obviously born with sticks in his hands, and the bassist has music in his blood.
Action ok, not too many tourists in Bangkok right now, but a good crowd at Bangkok Beat. Solely the band is worth to go there after midnight.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.th
Ya, I won't avoid Walking Street either. Bright lights call to me LOL. As long as the pussy as that fresh smell, I'm down for whatevers! LOL BTW, what do you guys do during the day? Can't have sex 24-7 now can we? LOLYes you do need a chance to give your dick a rest. There is lots of shit to do in Pattaya. Just google it.
Some examples:
Golf.
Rent a motorbike
Scuba.
Snorkel.
Bungee jump.
Cooking classes.
Jet ski (watch out though)
Zip-line.
Sky diving.
I can go on and on.
Dear Chimmy31, when taking into consideration the opinions and suggestions that people offer on this forum, I humbly suggest the following: you must try to understand who are the expats and/or long timers, and who are the newbies or “once in a while” guys. . . . . .
. . . . .
. . . . Of course, you MUST READ THE FUCKING FORUM. My apologies to all for oversimplifying a concept which would otherwise require an extremely long and detailed dissertation.With the best intentions,RyoYou could not said it better!
And this also calms down the price police! .
Mr Enternational
09-06-11, 23:16
Yes it is a lot. Thats why you must have misunderstood what the girl told you. There must have been extenuating circumstances in her earning so much driving a taxi. The numbers just don't add up!555. I wouldn't say that I misunderstood her. She is my girlfriend. Her car is paid off and she is one of those who doesn't use the meter and makes her own prices. She charges 1500 from BKK to Pattaya (and 500 from Nana to the airport). I have no idea why people would pay that, when they could pay another driver 1000 but they do. She damn near has more stamps in her passport than I do. She asked me about going to Uganda with her. I said I'm not going to no f*ng Uganda!
Somewhere15
09-06-11, 23:37
Remember a post about Bangkok Beat, in which a bad band was mentioned. I was in Bangkok Beat last night.
Some renovation was done since my last visit, the bar was moved, the customer seats area is now better situated opposite of the stage. Quite well done.
Back to the band that one playing until midnight is not worth to be mentioned. But afterwards an awesome band plays (yesterday approx. Until 2 am, sadly the late night spots close right now at around 2 am, government order, we usually have this phenomenon around election times). The band is possibly the best I have ever heard in Bangkok. The drummer was obviously born with sticks in his hands, and the bassist has music in his blood.
Action ok, not too many tourists in Bangkok right now, but a good crowd at Bangkok Beat. Solely the band is worth to go there after midnight.
Giotto.
http://www.livingstones.co.thDo you mean that Bangkok Beat is closing now at 2 AM?
For me (staying mostly in Soi 6) it was the ultimate after hours bar.
I left BKK 2 weeks ago and stayed on that time for some weeks in Bangkok, visited this place between 6 till 8 time.
Mid August they where renovation the bar.
Mostly I was their after 2 AM. Play some rounds of pool and enjoy the music and the girls.
The lady singer from the band has a great voice.
There are (where) always girls that you could find earlier in places like Sanooke, Guillivers and Country Road.
Girls that do not go to Climax or Insomia but girls who are looking for the same.
Often I had a succesfull pick up from there (but always between 3 and 4 AM).
I hope that after the election time they return to their old opening times.
Eden is still alive.Heading back to Bangers after a 5 year hiatus. Last time I was at Eden the girls were a bit haggard looking, but the service was great (as usual). Wondering if much has changed. Can anyone offer an update?
Cheers!
Lover Boy #2
09-08-11, 08:37
Heading back to Bangers after a 5 year hiatus. Last time I was at Eden the girls were a bit haggard looking, but the service was great (as usual). Wondering if much has changed. Can anyone offer an update?
Cheers!Same, Same. Not the best lookers (in general). But good service. Nothing has changed.
Anyone have a list of good but cheap traditional thai massages places (the ones without sex). Looking to relax with a few sessions on my next time in BKK. Massage places near a subway or train stations a plus.
Also what are the going rates these days for a thai massage and how much is an average tip afterwards.
Thanks
Lover Boy #2
09-09-11, 03:05
Anyone have a list of good but cheap traditional thai massages places (the ones without sex). Looking to relax with a few sessions on my next time in BKK. Massage places near a subway or train stations a plus.
Also what are the going rates these days for a thai massage and how much is an average tip afterwards.
ThanksHttp://www.healthlandspa.com/
And.
http://www.thaioasis.com/mb/bkkdayspasoverview.php (ref. King and I and others for your perusal)
I am going to BKK in November. First time. I decided to do a little research on places I might visit, and created a map that should be useful. I thought others might like to see it and make suggestions. A couple of notes: 1) I'm only going to be on the ground for a week, so obviously I won't be going to all these places; 2) I am staying at Town Lodge, Sukhumvit Soi 18; 3) I didn't bother noting individual places in Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza; and 4) Hyatt Regency is on the map because I know the band there, although I also understand Spasso is a place for some freelance girls.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=201674603674274468234.0004ab5222c27ff74394d&msa=0&ll=13.746305,100.560908&spn=0.025387,0.038581
Anyway, enjoy!
LittleBigMan
09-09-11, 07:46
Since we are talking about Maps for Bangkok and not being a Bangkok guy. Anyone have any idea where Central World might be?
Thanks, LBM
Since we are talking about Maps for Bangkok and not being a Bangkok guy. Anyone have any idea where Central World might be?
Thanks, LBMBTS Chitlom. 2 stops from Nana.
Since we are talking about Maps for Bangkok and not being a Bangkok guy. Anyone have any idea where Central World might be?
Thanks, LBMGo to Google and enter Central World Bangkok. You'll get a nice page with a clickable map.
Or use this link (Central World is labeled "A")
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=central+world+Bangkok&hl=en&ll=13.747764, 100.539193&spn=0.024386, 0.038581&fb=1&gl=us&cid=0, 0.1081146155368973120&sqi=2&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=6
GentleBoner
09-09-11, 10:14
Anyone know of any activity in the On Nut area?
Even just a massage place that does happy endings.
A lot of friendly looking women in the area, so there must be something.
Go to Google and enter Central World Bangkok. You'll get a nice page with a clickable map.
Or use this link (Central World is labeled "A")
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=central+world+Bangkok&hl=en&ll=13.747764, 100.539193&spn=0.024386, 0.038581&fb=1&gl=us&cid=0, 0.1081146155368973120&sqi=2&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=6Did they open again? Last April they were still closed. Big C on the other side was closed too.
Thanks
Http://www.healthlandspa.com/
And.
http://www.thaioasis.com/mb/bkkdayspasoverview.php
(ref. King and I and others for your perusal) I highly recommend too the health land spa although I am only using them in Pattaya.
On a parallel street to Patpong I and II towards Jim Thomson shop there are many legit Thai traditional massage places for a lesser price.
LittleBigMan
09-09-11, 15:35
Go to Google and enter Central World Bangkok. You'll get a nice page with a clickable map.
Or use this link (Central World is labeled "A")
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=central+world+Bangkok&hl=en&ll=13.747764, 100.539193&spn=0.024386, 0.038581&fb=1&gl=us&cid=0, 0.1081146155368973120&sqi=2&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=6Thanks, use the map but couldn't see where Central World is located in relation to Sukhumvit? The best I could make out not knowing BKK is that it is near Lumpini Park which I believe is down from the US Embassy Wireless Road?
LBM
Thanks, use the map but couldn't see where Central World is located in relation to Sukhumvit? The best I could make out not knowing BKK is that it is near Lumpini Park which I believe is down from the US Embassy Wireless Road?
LBMI don't believe that you don't know where CW is. But then again, I have been wrong before. If you follow the road in front of CW and head southeast you will see the road turns in to Sukhumvit. Staring at Soi 1 and going up as you go south east. OTOH maybe you need a new pair of glasses. :)
Take BTS towards the SIAM Station. Get off at Chidlom Station (2nd Station from Nana). Walk same direction as BTS goes over upper sky walk and look to the right for Central World. OR get off at the SIAM Station and walk back towards Nana on the upper walk way and you'll come upon the entrance on the left to Central World. I personally find it easier to get off at Chidlom. ZEN side is closed with shops at that end but a good part of it is open and has been open.
I don't believe that you don't know where CW is. But then again, I have been wrong before. If you follow the road in front of CW and head southeast you will see the road turns in to Sukhumvit. Staring at Soi 1 and going up as you go south east. OTOH maybe you need a new pair of glasses. :)
Sometimes, it is hard for me to remember that I do not have to drink every drop of a beer I buy. A beer is kind of like a ticket to look at the girls. I know I could buy soft drinks, but they cost the same most of the time. However, I know find the more I drink, it becomes impossible to find a girl to me liking. See, when you got a girl and she has been bar fined. Its a double edge sword. Good in the fact that you are a free agent for the night. Bad in the fact, you really have no idea what might happen.
I have been on a terrible streak lately. I will give it a go sober next week.
Sometimes, it is hard for me to remember that I do not have to drink every drop of a beer I buy. A beer is kind of like a ticket to look at the girls. I know I could buy soft drinks, but they cost the same most of the time. However, I know find the more I drink, it becomes impossible to find a girl to me liking. See, when you got a girl and she has been bar fined. Its a double edge sword. Good in the fact that you are a free agent for the night. Bad in the fact, you really have no idea what might happen.
I have been on a terrible streak lately. I will give it a go sober next week.Seriously, try it. I use to drink on my trips and stopped. I have a lot more fun now. Much better quality / quantity of sex. My O's are more intense, never make stupid mistakes and get ripped off.
Drink a Diet Coke. Noone really cares.
Since we are talking about Maps for Bangkok and not being a Bangkok guy. Anyone have any idea where Central World might be?
Thanks, LBMWhat are you going to ask next. Where is Nana Plaza? Google is a wonderful invention.
Anyone have a list of good but cheap traditional thai massages places (the ones without sex). Looking to relax with a few sessions on my next time in BKK. Massage places near a subway or train stations a plus.
Also what are the going rates these days for a thai massage and how much is an average tip afterwards.Near On Nut station, walking back toward Asok, on your right, a number of places for 100 / hour Thai massage. Tip is for extra service. No extra no tip. These places normally don't give extra. Unless you like man on man.
Tonight attended an old favourite dive karaoke again, for some reason. Walk past the Huay Khwang night market and keep going into the dark.
The usual assortment of dragons and runaways. I get a sharky vibe from the quite cute girl sitting with me and I check bin as soon as the first big beer is done.
Bill 400. Two beers, two girls. I only had one each. And they have "khanom" on the bill which I didn't order. Chase her to get mama, pay 250. More or less reasonable for a big beer while hugging a girl, a couple of songs and ice, but if you compare with 20 bare naked ladies at Cowboy, sadly does not compare.
Bangkok farang places are the best value. Tragic as it sounds.
Near On Nut station, walking back toward Asok, on your right, a number of places for 100 / hour Thai massage. Tip is for extra service. No extra no tip. These places normally don't give extra. Unless you like man on man.Meaning that these places are have all male massuse.
Somehow I'd feel better if they were women hands instead though, just my preference.
LittleBigMan
09-10-11, 02:45
What are you going to ask next. Where is Nana Plaza? Google is a wonderful invention.Its a simple question, if ChiChiChi can ask what to pack and bring why not? Sure Google is a wonderful invention but like you not tech savy! When I used it I found the location but wanted to know in what relationship was its location to Sukhumvit and Nana Plaza which I definitely know and thanks to Duniawala and Jgmoo5 I got my bearing on CW. At least I know how to clip instead of quoting the whole report.
LBM
Its a simple question, if ChiChiChi can ask what to pack and bring why not? Sure Google is a wonderful invention but like you not tech savy! When I used it I found the location but wanted to know in what relationship was its location to Sukhumvit and Nana Plaza which I definitely know and thanks to Duniawala and Jgmoo5 I got my bearing on CW. At least I know how to clip instead of quoting the whole report.
LBMI can be pretty stupid sometimes. I just thought yours was an easy one to find since it is one of the largest markets in Thailand.
LittleBigMan
09-10-11, 05:15
I can be pretty stupid sometimes. I just thought yours was an easy one to find since it is one of the largest markets in Thailand.It might seem simple to others but when in Bangkok, there are two things I do and that is go to the US Embassy for business the other isn't shopping at places like CW, to me the biggest market is pussy that is all I know and care to know right now when it comes to BKK. Heh Heh.
LBM
Seriously, try it. I use to drink on my trips and stopped. I have a lot more fun now. Much better quality / quantity of sex. My O's are more intense, never make stupid mistakes and get ripped off.
Drink a Diet Coke. Noone really cares.Really true, it is us westerners thinking we need to' drink "expensive", ie alcohol etc. As that is where in the western world the bar will take most of the revenues (and they do all over the world when you approach a bottle of red wine). I don't think it is much the case in Thailand where they probabili make more with iced tea.
It might seem simple to others but when in Bangkok, there are two things I do and that is go to the US Embassy for business the other isn't shopping at places like CW, to me the biggest market is pussy that is all I know and care to know right now when it comes to BKK. Heh Heh.
LBMWe actually have something in common. Sorry for the slam.
Grandnash84
09-10-11, 21:57
Does anybody know if the montien@pat pong is guest friendly. If not any other hotels that are very close are?
Member #4351
09-10-11, 23:32
Does anybody know if the montien@pat pong is guest friendly.Wasn't when I stayed there. Charged a fairly expensive guest fee.
Does anybody know if the montien@pat pong is guest friendly. If not any other hotels that are very close are?Just down 2 blocks is the Montien Hotel. This is also quite a classy hotel known for excellent service and spacious rooms. If you ever decide to stay there ask for a room facing Lumphini Park because each room comes with a balcony. You'll get an excellent view. The Montien is right at the entrance of Patpong sex district and bar girl friendly as well. It can't really get much better than that.
The above is a review from a site I searched. Looks GF, but as the other dude reported below, policy may have changed.
Email or call them to confirm.
Global Surfer
09-11-11, 01:49
Planning to visit LOS in about a couple of weeks.
Could any senior member recommend a bar or bars arround Sukhumvit (like bear garden) where one can found better quality (like some bars in Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza)
Any bars with good quality 'food' open in afternoon are a big plus.
Thanks
Wasn't when I stayed there. Charged a fairly expensive guest fee.Stayed there a couple of years back. Then theny charged 1000B for guest. Even the Ramada Tawana nearby charges a guest fee.
Does anybody know if the montien@pat pong is guest friendly. If not any other hotels that are very close are?Le Meridien is a block away and does not charge for guests. There are great "mystery" deals on wotifdotcom for this hotel. Tonight, (11 Sept) , it is 3200 baht.
Just down 2 blocks is the Montien Hotel. This is also quite a classy hotel known for excellent service and spacious rooms. If you ever decide to stay there ask for a room facing Lumphini Park because each room comes with a balcony. You'll get an excellent view. The Montien is right at the entrance of Patpong sex district and bar girl friendly as well. It can't really get much better than that.
The above is a review from a site I searched. Looks GF, but as the other dude reported below, policy may have changed.
Email or call them to confirm.There is a bar / pool hall at the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel between soi 13 and 15. About a couple of hundred feet before 15. Not much of pick up joint though bar girls can be persuaded sometimes.
Does anybody know if the montien@pat pong is guest friendly. If not any other hotels that are very close are?I've stayed at the Montien about 10 times over the years and its a nice hotel but not at all GF, joiner fees will be added, I've also tried the Tawana Ramada just down the road also OK, cheaper than Moty but also not GF, There is also the Rose hotel in the area I'm not sure if its GF, the Wall St Inn in Patpong itself is GF but a bit less quailty, I would recomend the Motien to anyone but I don't usually take bar girls back to my hotel when I'm in Bangkok.
Non sex massage place located all over the place.
Hint: take an unsightly woman as they won't be disappointed when you decline their sexual advances. LOL. And theyll be happy whatever tip you give them.True, from what I remember on my last visit there several years ago, but trying to get some info on just which ones are the better ones be / see I remember using one before and the massage was terrible. No way that woman was ever trained in traditional massage, more like a light rub. Total waste of money and time.
LittleBigMan
09-13-11, 05:35
True, from what I remember on my last visit there several years ago, but trying to get some info on just which ones are the better ones be / see I remember using one before and the massage was terrible. No way that woman was ever trained in traditional massage, more like a light rub. Total waste of money and time.This what I think about Thai Traditional massages. I had maybe nearly a thousand massages when it comes to Thailand many are self taught by other providers. The government also has a program that is free to train Thais they do get a certificate when they are done this doesn't include foot massage training and the training is one week. I myself has been ask where is the best place and like bars P4P that is a very hard question to answer since from my experience even the biggest name places doesn't mean you are going to get a great massage. Some like it hard some like it light? Because in the end it is the provider that makes the place. I have made recommendation for others to find out later that it was okay for them, was the shop the blame, no it was they didn't get the right provider that I normally use and even if they did maybe the style I like isn't the style for them.
Not traditional, I once told a friend if you need a BBBJ, go see this person at this shop, she is the best suck I ever had, she would take your liitle head deep throat it to the end, absorb your balls in her mouth and roll them around and around until your eyeballs turn white. I had many tell me thanks for the tip, but this friend came back and said " it was okay my wife BBBJ is much better " now his wife isn't much to look at but I had a new found respect for her and she look much better after he told me that. I feel the same about straight Thai massages it is all hit and miss when it comes to only the shop?
LBM
Hey fella's I've been in & out of Phuket mostly 3 trips many months. I'm looking to play & pay in BKK & Pattaya.
Any recommendations on where to stay, in either BKK or Pattaya (I want to plant in one place for a month) for very easy access to plenty of women?
Strippers, clubs, good bar girls, discos, students.
Apartment or hotel. Budget on the month stay I want to keep around $800
I was in the mood to go to some 'high-class place' and so hit Spasso a month or so back. Great looking girls who can speak English. Like some of the punters mentioned, they are not your 19-20 yr olds but girls in their late 20's and early 30's.McMaiden, Here's a belated thank you for a good report. It's a pity that the price police are all over posts like yours, as it discourages people from posting honestly about places like Spasso's and CM2. My prediction: You will never see a report on this site about Exclusive Bangkok Excorts (short time up to 12,000 Baht) even though several here have probably availed themselves of their services.
Capitalized On
09-17-11, 05:37
I had major fun during my short stay in Bangkok this past weekend (reports to follow). However, the downer was that Insomnia was closed on Saturday night. I went there after making rounds in Nana plaza with the intention of ending my night at Insomnia (and maybe picking up a stunner there). But that wasn't meant to be. I was told that the closure is permanent (for now) and was a result of the new political bodies in Thailand (and Bangkok). Such a shame!This is terrible news if it is closed. I was including that in my plans for my next trip because it was a highlight of my last trip (see my last trip report post).
In the past, if I one was away from this forum for a while, upon their return they would find the new Bangkok pages / posts would always out number the new Pattaya pages / posts made. But recently I have noticed the exact oppisite.
So what is going on? Are punters now avoiding Bangkok and heading straight to Pattaya more often? Has mongering in Bangkok deteriated that much?
In the past, if I one was away from this forum for a while, upon their return they would find the new Bangkok pages / posts would always out number the new Pattaya pages / posts made. But recently I have noticed the exact oppisite.
So what is going on? Are punters now avoiding Bangkok and heading straight to Pattaya more often? Has mongering in Bangkok deteriated that much?I like the other places, but BKK is still my #1 mongering spot. It is the entire experience for me. Girls, infrastructure, food, malls, great hotels, other things to do.
Member #4698
09-19-11, 04:20
I like the other places, but BKK is still my #1 mongering spot. It is the entire experience for me. Girls, infrastructure, food, malls, great hotels, other things to do.I agree 100%. Bangkok is a great Asian city offering up the variety of venues, great restaurants, interesting neighborhoods, and culture you just can't find anywhere else. It is the big Mango. Pattaya is amazing, but in the end, it is just a resort town with a ton of women and a polluted beach. It is a good place to go when you need a break from Bangkok.
Susu Lover
09-19-11, 05:56
Cornelius B. Spielberger shows us the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Y1-i-xTdQ
Love,
Susu
Tratnguyen1
09-19-11, 06:06
Gents,
I went to P. I. Angeles and Manila cities in May 2011, for the experiences after all Bangkok visits.
For the shake of comparasions, Bangkok is hand down my Top choice No Brainer.
The Bangkok M. P. Is always amazing things to Me and I just Can't Not have
Enough of that. Girls and MP. Scenes You can find everwhere on Earth.
However, in Bangkok they make it just So Good. And plenty.
For a Good measure, I shall be back to visit Bangkok in November. 2011.
McMaiden, Here's a belated thank you for a good report. It's a pity that the price police are all over posts like yours, as it discourages people from posting honestly about places like Spasso's and CM2. My prediction: You will never see a report on this site about Exclusive Bangkok Excorts (short time up to 12,000 Baht) even though several here have probably availed themselves of their services.Thanks Tiny12. I just report what I saw / did. This is a forum after all and people can have their opinions. If I don't like it, I ignore it. Otherwise, I try and learn from it.
Next night too, I went to Spasso and hooked up with a girl for 4000B. Have to say the first night was a lot better although I paid more.
Spasso's is like Brix in Singapore, BATS at Jakarta etc. Maybe a bit more classier than BATS? As I said, its a good place to go with an expense account and chat with girls, have a few drinks in a relaxed atmosphere without the tensions of a go-go where people push you for drinks, lady-drinks etc. I enjoyed the place and will go there next time I am in BKK too.
MM
Has mongering in Bangkok deteriated that much?It depends on your budget! IMO, BKK still has the best looking girls in all of Thailand. But that doesn't come without a price. If you can drop $100-$400 easily on a girl then BKK is still the place to be. If you're into the $20-$60 range, forget it.
It depends on your budget! IMO, BKK still has the best looking girls in all of Thailand. But that doesn't come without a price. If you can drop $100-$400 easily on a girl then BKK is still the place to be. If you're into the $20-$60 range, forget it.The most you have to pay for a good looking girl is 3000 baht.
The not so pretty ones can easily be picked up for 1000 baht.
And then there is all sorts of variations in the middle of those pricing bands.
There are always fools willing to pay more for something that is just the same, as they say, a fool and his money are soon parted.
It depends on your budget! IMO, BKK still has the best looking girls in all of Thailand. But that doesn't come without a price. If you can drop $100-$400 easily on a girl then BKK is still the place to be. If you're into the $20-$60 range, forget it.There is always going to be discussion on prices.
Those on low budgets will resent paying more than Baht 1000 S / T; those on high budgets will be happy with Baht 4000 for the same girl / same service.
Me, I am lucky enough to to be able to afford to pay Baht 2000 for a girl and avoid all the hassles of sordid negotiations over what Baht 1000 includes.
It depends on your budget! IMO, BKK still has the best looking girls in all of Thailand. But that doesn't come without a price. If you can drop $100-$400 easily on a girl then BKK is still the place to be. If you're into the $20-$60 range, forget it.Here we go again. You are quoting Vegas prices at $100-400.
Where in the heck are you mongering?
You can get very nice looking girls in BKK who are GFE for less than $60. I have done it many, many times.
JerseyShoreSun
09-19-11, 19:31
this what i think about thai traditional massages. i had maybe nearly a thousand massages when it comes to thailand many are self taught by other providers. the government also has a program that is free to train thais they do get a certificate when they are done this doesn't include foot massage training and the training is one week. i myself has been ask where is the best place and like bars p4p that is a very hard question to answer since from my experience even the biggest name places doesn't mean you are going to get a great massage. some like it hard some like it light? because in the end it is the provider that makes the place. i have made recommendation for others to find out later that it was okay for them, was the shop the blame, no it was they didn't get the right provider that i normally use and even if they did maybe the style i like isn't the style for them.
not traditional, i once told a friend if you need a bbbj, go see this person at this shop, she is the best suck i ever had, she would take your liitle head deep throat it to the end, absorb your balls in her mouth and roll them around and around until your eyeballs turn white. i had many tell me thanks for the tip, but this friend came back and said " it was okay my wife bbbj is much better " now his wife isn't much to look at but i had a new found respect for her and she look much better after he told me that. i feel the same about straight thai massages it is all hit and miss when it comes to only the shop?
lbmmy personal favorite for a traditional is the lets relax spa in the upper sukhumvit's and i even have a regular therapist by the name of arunee. they have a special package which is a 2 hr traditional massage combined with a prior 45 minute foot massage and last time i remember paying approx 1, 000 baht for it. for me i try and get down for a session atleast 3 times if i'm staying like 5 to 7 days. after the week is over i feel like i'm walking on the clouds.
as lbm said you need to find a therapist that takes the time to understand your body and then give up complete control of your body to them. trust me its well worth it!
cheers,
jss
Here we go again. You are quoting Vegas prices at $100-400.
Where in the heck are you mongering?
You can get very nice looking girls in BKK who are GFE for less than $60. I have done it many, many times.Exactly. If I wanted to pay those kind of prices I would have stayed in the US!
If you can drop $100-$400 easily on a girl then BKK is still the place to be. If you're into the $20-$60 range, forget it.$400 should get you a 4-star hotel, a decent dinner, drinks at the club, the girl for the night, the girl's sister for a threesone, a 2-hr massage the next day, and a couple of custom made shirts. And, you should have change left over!
$20 (+ just a little more) will get you a blowjob at the Star of Light. $60 (+) will get you a three hole experience at Tulip. It's a no brainer.
AssLover945
09-20-11, 05:07
It depends on your budget! IMO, BKK still has the best looking girls in all of Thailand. But that doesn't come without a price. If you can drop $100-$400 easily on a girl then BKK is still the place to be. If you're into the $20-$60 range, forget it.400 $$$. Can get you the best girls almost anywhere in the world, why come to LOS for that.
30$ gets you a 2 shots-short time.
60$ gets you a 3 holes no barred experience (you got to look at the right places (like tulip).
Gosh do not spoil this market please!
LittleBigMan
09-20-11, 06:18
my personal favorite for a traditional is the lets relax spa in the upper sukhumvit's and i even have a regular therapist by the name of arunee. they have a special package which is a 2 hr traditional massage combined with a prior 45 minute foot massage and last time i remember paying approx 1, 000 baht for it. for me i try and get down for a session atleast 3 times if i'm staying like 5 to 7 days. after the week is over i feel like i'm walking on the clouds.
as lbm said you need to find a therapist that takes the time to understand your body and then give up complete control of your body to them. trust me its well worth it!
cheers,
jssat least two times a week i go to my regular place that i have been visiting for over 2 years. it is a local shop in a thai area with 3 ladies plus the current owner. i no longer use one particular lady since it is a small shop so i don't get attach to just one because majority of the time they end up leaving. so i rotate and the owner usually give tips to the ladies as to what my preferrence are.
nothing fancy but thai prices 100 baht for a thai massage for 1 hour. i go for no less that 2 hours at a time, sometimes depending on the provider i go for a foot massage 150 baht a hour then go for another 1 hour thai massage. my place is for 2 hour thai massage 200 baht i tip 100 baht = 300 baht, foot massage 1 hour =150 baht tip 50 baht = 200 baht.
whatever you price range you want to pay i firmly believe i wouldn't be able to walk if it wasn't for the massage i get here. you got to love this place just for the massages?
lbm
$400 should get you a 4-star hotel, a decent dinner, drinks at the club, the girl for the night, the girl's sister for a threesone, a 2-hr massage the next day, and a couple of custom made shirts. And, you should have change left over!
$20 (+ just a little more) will get you a blowjob at the Star of Light. $60 (+) will get you a three hole experience at Tulip. It's a no brainer.Amen! A no brainer!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=1197500&viewfull=1#post1197500
Are these prices ligit or for locals? 300B. 800B. Seems rather cheap for Bangkok. I have haggled prices down to 8ooB on Sukhumvit, soi 5, not without a bit of a sulk from the provider.
Is there a sports bar near Sukhumvit or the riverside that shows the NFL games? Thanks.They all have the channel. I really don't know any that cater to an NFL audience, also the 1pm NFL games start at 1am here. The bar would close at half time.
Mealticket
09-20-11, 17:46
Is there a sports bar near Sukhumvit or the riverside that shows the NFL games? Thanks.Maybe the Tavern on Soi 4.
Google: Sports bars near Sukhumvit. It will give sites showing that there are numerous locations.
Google: Sports bars near Sukhumvit. It will give sites showing that there are numerous locations.I just used Mr. E's most excellent link to SoiDB, the real estate web site but it is realy much more than that and very usefull in many more ways and a search returned many sports bars:
http://www.soidb.com/en/bangkok/g_result.html?cx=partner-pub-8451482119501410%3Amx4vx0y6b2l&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=sports+bar&sa=Search&siteurl=www.soidb.com%2Fen%2Fbangkok%2Findex. Html#1151
Member #2453
09-21-11, 14:51
Arrived into Bangkok early morning and checked into MADUZI by 8am, wanted to sleep till noon and then start with Nana barber shop with a shave and take it from there. But woke up after a short Nap around 9:30, shower and went out thought of having a real oil massage to relax before going to Nana hotel, walking from soi Asok to Nana found almost all the places closed at 10:30, Nana hotel saloon not yet open, went to soi 11, just before the big 7/11 opp. To ambassador hotel, was a massage place (don't remember the name) with foot massage chairs in the ground floor, an elderly lady doing the foot massage to the customer. Entered the place, she asks me foot massage and before I answer she call out and from the back of the shop comes an attractive lady, very good looking, seeing her I thought why not a oil massage and I was mentioned 400 per hour 700 to two, I opted for the one hour and she leads me to the first floor, rooms with proper massage tables, two tables per room, I think I saw 4 room, all rooms partitioned but not to the ceiling, doors without locks etc. Seems to be authentic massage place.
The lady in a pinkish pants and buttoned shirt uniform Hands me a towel and asks to undress and lie face down, she leaves the room and stands outside the door in the corridor (this is something I find amazing, she knows very well during the course of the massage she would see me naked. So why this modesty?) I undress and lie down, she has been watching this, she immediately knocks on the door and comes in and starts an very good oil massage very relaxing, no hanky panky or accidental touches, after about 40 mins asks me to turnover, covers with the towel and starts the massage. I start chatting to her and come to know her Name: Nyo, for udon. 21 years, worked a beauty salon for ladies for 3 years in Bangkok, now closed, moved here. 4.11ft 49KG etc. When she start the upper thigh massage, Jr. Gets into full erecting creating a tent which she ignores.
With about 10mins left, she asks if I would like to extend and have a 2 hour massage if I have time, I mention that I will be going to Nana Salon for a shave down there, she mentions that she can do it, I ask her if they do it here and if she has experience, she mentions that the lady doing foot massage does it almost daily, but she has done only for the ladies at her previous salon, and she would be very careful, asked how much she says you extend the massage by one more hour and you tip if happy. Ask here what she uses for shave (as I didn't want to risk if she uses the straight cut throat type of Razor) , she goes out and returns with a Gillette venues lady razor, I say OK let go with it.
She goes out mentioning she need to get the shave gel and warm water and t-shirt (wondering shy) as she leaves the room, I get up, pull a 500B from my pants, lie down, cover back with the towel and place the 500 on the towel, she come back with a small tube full of warm water and gel, pull a stool from under the massage table, places the warm water on the stool, and then looks at the 500B and asks what, I say tip for you, for the first time I see a big smile on her face, says thank you and places a kiss on the cheek. Rather a totally changed lady in secs, closes the door, as there in no lock, she pulls the other stool and keeps it against the door so as not to open,
Turns her back to me, removes her uniform, but still in her bra and panties, puts on her long t-shirt, which is almost reaching to her thighs, removes the towel, sits on the massage table with folded legs and pulls me up in her lap and really does a very good job making sure it feels like a baby, which she mentions, by now the Jr. Has been erect for the past 15mins and she has been holding it with the other hand and adjusting to make sure it doesn't come in her way. She gets of the table and says good OK, I mention what about the ass, she says ah ok you want there, asks me to turn around and get into doggy position and does a good work running here fingers around and making sure the AH is hair free, all this takes about 30 mins, still in doggy position I ask her still 30 mins what else, she says massage, and says no special her, asks me to lie down, I say can you massage there pointing to the AH, she puts oil on her hands and starts a nice ass massage which felt as good as riming, then without mentioning start a HJ with the other hand and finishes in a few mins, mentions not to tell the boss, cleans up with the towel, no showers here, dress up and leave.
I think ball shaving is available most of the places, I think we have to ask.
Member #4152
09-21-11, 19:10
I think ball shaving is available most of the places, I think we have to ask.I never got my balls shaved before? I'm just curious why someone would do it? I'm not knocking it, just wonder why?
Thanks,
Chims.
Tucker McElroy
09-21-11, 20:02
I think ball shaving is available most of the places, I think we have to ask.I too have to ask about why you would do this? And more importantly, what happens once you start to get some stubble growing back? I got a shave in a hospital once (and they go waaaaay overboard about the area they shave compared to the location of the surgery) and when it started to grow back the itch from the stubble drove me crazy. Once you go down this path, I think you're committed to maintaining shaved status (or going through a period of misery as the hair first starts to grow back.)
Wolvenvacht
09-21-11, 21:00
I too have to ask about why you would do this? And more importantly, what happens once you start to get some stubble growing back? I got a shave in a hospital once (and they go waaaaay overboard about the area they shave compared to the location of the surgery) and when it started to grow back the itch from the stubble drove me crazy. Once you go down this path, I think you're committed to maintaining shaved status (or going through a period of misery as the hair first starts to grow back.)Yep, once you start shaving you better continue or go though a period of some itching, although it is not so bad as you make it sound.
I have shaved down there for many years and it just feels good. The ladies like it when sucking, just the same as I like a less hairy environment when going down on her.
I never got my balls shaved before? I'm just curious why someone would do it? I'm not knocking it, just wonder why?
Thanks,
Chims.It looks cleaner and the girls like to lick and suck on a clean / smooth ball sack.
I too have to ask about why you would do this? And more importantly, what happens once you start to get some stubble growing back? I got a shave in a hospital once (and they go waaaaay overboard about the area they shave compared to the location of the surgery) and when it started to grow back the itch from the stubble drove me crazy. Once you go down this path, I think you're committed to maintaining shaved status (or going through a period of misery as the hair first starts to grow back.)I shave every other day. Cock, balls, taint, and ass. Girls like it and are more apt to lick. Just looks cleaner and nicer. Having a forest down there is pretty nasty. Just do it. They will appreciate it!
Member #4152
09-22-11, 06:58
I shave every other day. Cock, balls, taint, and ass. Girls like it and are more apt to lick. Just looks cleaner and nicer. Having a forest down there is pretty nasty. Just do it. They will appreciate it!LOL. I actually think I look pretty good naked with the pubes nicely trimmed. I like to keep a 5 o clock shadow on my face and my ex girlfriends use to hate kissing me unless I shaved because it was pokey! If she didn't like kissing me because of the stubble, why would a girl want to go down there for even more stubble? Man, I use to shave my legs in high school for football cause of the spat and I use to get carried away and go all the way up to the top of my legs. Boy did I regret this, my inner thighs would get so itchy man cause of the rubbing man! I think I'm done with the shaving experiments for life LOL!
AssLover945
09-22-11, 07:43
Arrived into Bangkok early morning and checked into MADUZI by 8am, .
She goes out mentioning she need to get the shave gel and warm water and t-shirt (wondering shy) as she leaves the room, I get up, pull a 500B from my pants, lie down, cover back with the towel and place the 500 on the towel, she come back with a small tube full of warm water and gel, pull a stool from under the massage table, places the warm water on the stool, and then looks at the 500B and asks what, I say tip for you, for the first time I see a big smile on her face, says thank you and places a kiss on the cheek. Rather a totally changed lady in secs, closes the door, as there in no lock, she pulls the other stool and keeps it against the door so as not to open,
Turns her back to me, removes her uniform, but still in her bra and panties, puts on her long t-shirt, which is almost reaching to her thighs, removes the towel, sits on the massage table with folded legs and pulls me up in her lap and really does a very good job making sure it feels like a baby, which she mentions, by now the Jr. Has been erect for the past 15mins and she has been holding it with the other hand and adjusting to make sure it doesn't come in her way. She gets of the table and says good OK, I mention what about the ass, she says ah ok you want there, asks me to turn around and get into doggy position and does a good work running here fingers around and making sure the AH is hair free, all this takes about 30 mins, still in doggy position I ask her still 30 mins what else, she says massage, and says no special her, asks me to lie down, I say can you massage there pointing to the AH, she puts oil on her hands and starts a nice ass massage which felt as good as riming, then without mentioning start a HJ with the other hand and finishes in a few mins, mentions not to tell the boss, cleans up with the towel, no showers here, dress up and leave.
I think ball shaving is available most of the places, I think we have to ask.Excellent report mate. I always wanted a clean area down there, but it seems shaving isn't my cup of tea.
I have been on the lookout for Waxing. I have been asked for ridiculous prices (1200-1500) Bahts for a boyzilian (brazilian waxing for men). Finally I got a salon on Phrom phong. Vana Spa. Right next to 7-11 to do it for me for 1200 Bahts. I personally find waxing to have a more smoother feel than shaving and it takes longer for the hair to grow back. It feels almost like baby skin soft.
Boyzilian waxing is available but at higher costs (than many countries) in many salons. I heard from one the WGs that in soi33 they do it for 300-400 for girls, so maybe I should try that as well. Maybe some salon will agree to do it for men as well.
Requesting any info on Brazilian / Boyzilian waxing on the cheap. (would like to get it done every month)
And yes, it helps to have a better experience because girls are more receptive to molesting you with their tongues and hands when there is no visible obstruction!
I agree it does look better, I use the norelco body groomer and the ladies over here in Japan love it. They giggle and run their hands over to feel it, but all in all most compliment the neat appearance. Just my 2cents.
Quick report on EZMassage. Don't normally post reports but had such a good time here thought it only decent.
Went along on Tuesday afternoon having prebooked on the website before getting into BKK. Had two hours with May followed by two hours with Aiko. Two gorgeous girls. Their photos on the website are accurate even accounting for the studio quality.
Prices exactly as per website and no extras needing to be paid.
Place itself was fine, tucked away among a series of similar establishments on that soi and everyone friendly and welcoming. I had been in regular contact by email before arriving and got exactly what I asked for.
Time spent was one of the best I've had in ages. Aiko was beautiful, great company and very capable, whilst May was much more naughty, flirty and mischievous. Both great girls and great service without restrictions.
I had been to Nataree in the morning and was very dissapointed by the number and quality of girls available. One was lovely looking but seemed to be a bit clueless about why she was there or how it all worked. Got there in the end but felt a bit school teachery! So EZMassage was great by comparison.
On the way out walked onto Soi 24 and got beckoned in by a late twenties lady for massage at 400 baht for an hour. Seemed to be a hairdresser-cum-massage place with younger looking girls round 20ish. Would have been rude to say no so ended my trip to Soi 24 very happy.
On balance, would recommend both Aiko and May without blinking and would happily pay more than I did to see them. Go visit.
Excellent report mate. I always wanted a clean area down there, but it seems shaving isn't my cup of tea.
I have been on the lookout for Waxing. I have been asked for ridiculous prices (1200-1500) Bahts for a boyzilian (brazilian waxing for men). Finally I got a salon on Phrom phong. Vana Spa. Right next to 7-11 to do it for me for 1200 Bahts. I personally find waxing to have a more smoother feel than shaving and it takes longer for the hair to grow back. It feels almost like baby skin soft.
Boyzilian waxing is available but at higher costs (than many countries) in many salons. I heard from one the WGs that in soi33 they do it for 300-400 for girls, so maybe I should try that as well. Maybe some salon will agree to do it for men as well.
Requesting any info on Brazilian / Boyzilian waxing on the cheap. (would like to get it done every month)
And yes, it helps to have a better experience because girls are more receptive to molesting you with their tongues and hands when there is no visible obstruction!We are a vain lot! .
Excellent report mate. I always wanted a clean area down there, but it seems shaving isn't my cup of tea.
I have been on the lookout for Waxing. I have been asked for ridiculous prices (1200-1500) Bahts for a boyzilian (brazilian waxing for men). Finally I got a salon on Phrom phong. Vana Spa. Right next to 7-11 to do it for me for 1200 Bahts. I personally find waxing to have a more smoother feel than shaving and it takes longer for the hair to grow back. It feels almost like baby skin soft.
Boyzilian waxing is available but at higher costs (than many countries) in many salons. I heard from one the WGs that in soi33 they do it for 300-400 for girls, so maybe I should try that as well. Maybe some salon will agree to do it for men as well.Looks we are all of a suddeninto it! LOL.
Had mine too a few days ago at Nana, first timer, and so far the sensation is good.
Have to see how it develops (grows) frpm what I read here.
Never mind I'll be back there shortly. Maybe a recap will do.
Talking about waxing the lady at the Nana parlour (go inside the hotel, pass reception, there is ony one MP, opposite the lifts) offered the waxing.
I did not take the option as eing already the first time on shaving, did not want to overdo, so did not check the price.
I added, don't want to have pain, is there any pain?"A little" she answered.
The shving was done with a razor (better do not look at it for your peace of mind) , and conducted in a very perfect way both front and back.
Ended up with baby powder to smoothen the skin.
No happy endings or so as was not keen at that moment.
Read here it can happen if one choses a full masage lady (seems the one I had is the "shaving" lady: not in her twenties, she still has a nice and slim body)
Damage wsa 400 naht and a 100 tip I left as she worked like having a feather in her hands, not a sharp blade! (jokingly I said I need a shaving, not a cutting!)
Crocodilexp
09-23-11, 06:41
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=1197500&viewfull=1#post1197500
Are these prices legit or for locals? 300B. 800B. Seems rather cheap for Bangkok.
Yes, it's targeted at lo-so Thais, but girls aren't picky (most of them have seen a white dick before and apparently can say "go with you" in English, if not much else). South of Rachadamnoen is the lowest-grade streetwalker area in Bangkok (perhaps in addition to Yaowarat). Doesn't mean that the girls look bad, just that the places are dirty, the service is so-so (although in Thailand, it's seldom truly bad). Speaking Thai is a plus, but not required. Not everyone's cup of tea, anyway, but good to have it on the record for the more adventurous. ST hotels in the area seem to be a bit reluctant about Farang, I guess somebody made a mess at one point...
I have haggled prices down to 8ooB on Sukhumvit, soi 5, not without a bit of a sulk from the provider.
Kudos for negotiating. Many people disparage it, but for us frequent fliers It's necessary.
In my experience, pushing girls under the going rate is usually a bad idea. Instead, I usually agree on the going rate (which is 1000 baht on Soi 5) or slightly higher (1200), but negotiate more service. Normally, I ask for 2 shots, which filters out the ones not willing to put in the time. Anchoring Is a good tactic as well. If you're the first to say "1000 baht", and then you agree on 1200, she'd be much happier than if she opened with 1500 (or 2000) , and you then agreed on 1200 (or even 1500).
Yes, it's targeted at lo-so Thais, but girls aren't picky (most of them have seen a white dick before and apparently can say "go with you" in English, if not much else). South of Rachadamnoen is the lowest-grade streetwalker area in Bangkok (perhaps in addition to Yaowarat). Doesn't mean that the girls look bad, just that the places are dirty, the service is so-so (although in Thailand, it's seldom truly bad). Speaking Thai is a plus, but not required. Not everyone's cup of tea, anyway, but good to have it on the record for the more adventurous. ST hotels in the area seem to be a bit reluctant about Farang, I guess somebody made a mess at one point.I'll only be able to fool around in the afternoon this time in BKK and would like to try the streetwalkers (had great service from a pretty SW at Nana once, but late at night) , because I find this more exciting, less mechanical than MPs, with less dolled-up girls (although more risky, std wise? I always use condoms though, but sometimes they break).
I have read about Petchaburi road SW (quite convenient from my location) , and now this "South of Rachadamnoen" area. I also went to Chinatown once, near the Texas parlour, and there were very few street girls, not too hot.
What would be a good area to explore during daytime?
Thanks!
AussieDoug
09-23-11, 11:31
Between Soi 3 and 5 on Sukhumvit, very near Nana, there are girls all hours, and some katoeys also, but a few diamonds in the rough.
Between Soi 3 and 5 on Sukhumvit, very near Nana, there are girls all hours, and some katoeys also, but a few diamonds in the rough.500-800B is the general price there.
AssLover945
09-24-11, 02:43
Looks we are all of a suddeninto it! LOL.
Had mine too a few days ago at Nana, first timer, and so far the sensation is good.
Have to see how it develops (grows) frpm what I read here.
Never mind I'll be back there shortly. Maybe a recap will do.
Talking about waxing the lady at the Nana parlour (go inside the hotel, pass reception, there is ony one MP, opposite the lifts) offered the waxing.
I did not take the option as eing already the first time on shaving, did not want to overdo, so did not check the price.
I added, don't want to have pain, is there any pain?"A little" she answered.
The shving was done with a razor (better do not look at it for your peace of mind) , and conducted in a very perfect way both front and back.
Ended up with baby powder to smoothen the skin.
No happy endings or so as was not keen at that moment.
Read here it can happen if one choses a full masage lady (seems the one I had is the "shaving" lady: not in her twenties, she still has a nice and slim body)
Damage wsa 400 naht and a 100 tip I left as she worked like having a feather in her hands, not a sharp blade! (jokingly I said I need a shaving, not a cutting!) First of all thanks for letting me feel that I was not just alone into it! LOL
I was getting a feel that I maybe the oddball out.
I know a few guys from work, who do that regularly (that is how I got into it). So maybe it is just kept under wraps. But interestingly most guys get into it when nudged by their GFs and wives! My first time I did it because my Ex wanted me to give it a try, but I so so loved the baby skin feel that I got hooked.
SO, I was saying that waxing definitely feels much better than shaving, except for the initial pain, but once over you and your partner get 2-3 weeks of pure bliss.
Thia report just doesn't sound credible. LOL!I concur. 4 hours in that shithole, and this guy would have gladly paid more.
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