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Kumbu
08-22-13, 00:23
Goatscrot, and all those who are upset with me for whatever reason, I'd just like to say that it was never my intention to offend or anger anyone. If you take the time to read my posts, you will see two things. First, generally I do indeed provide identifying information. It was just this one girl that is the exception, and I explained the reasons for this before. I feel that it is within my right to make the decision, and don't particularly want to go through the whole thing again (and again, and again).

Second, I hope that my posts are not as worthless as you suggest, even without identifying information. If they are entertaining, great, but in reality, they should be informative. While they may not be of any use to you who has been there and done that, consider the perspective of those who have never been to BKK. Some of the details in my report might be useful to them, even more so than a specific name.

I had prepared lengthy responses on these and other points, but I'd rather draw a line under this issue and move on. If you decide to create a new thread, good luck with that (I personally think it is an unworkable idea) , but until then, I will continue with my next report.

Daddy07
08-22-13, 00:57
Here's how we taught one of these low life Indians in Pattaya. Me and my friend had two lovelies with us and we met this group of five at an Indian restaurant. They got excited and asked how we got them, how much etc. Etc. (typical lowlife attitude. First time travel outside India and still having the MCP attitude). So we invited them to sit with us and one of the lovelies pulled out her cell and called one of her friend over. These Indians wet their pants and were drooling all over her. Anyway to cut a long story short, we ordered the best and most expensive dishes and wines. Then we four quietly got up and left them holding the bill. The third girl made her way outside, pretending to go to the toilet. Think it cost them a few thousand bahts.Hey Duni, what is it exactly that you taught them? How to get fucked over by one of their own? They were excited about how you found beautiful Thai girl companions and wanted to talk to you about it so you asked them to sit with you and then sneaked out sticking them with your huge bill to pay. Am I missing something? What did they do to you to deserve that? Is that how you treat your own countrymen just because they are lower class than you? Seems like you as an Indian despise other Indians just as much as the Thais.

Streetwalker7
08-22-13, 01:47
How do people get smoking hot chicks for only 1000B? Free agent girl told me 1500 for short time and she was not smoking hot but must be because of my bald head.We both need game. LOL.

Last night I went to my fav mp. Girl spent an inordinate amount of time oil massaging my arms. On the flip halfway thru the first leg I had to call it quits.

She managed to pass over all the errogenous zones so I figgured sex would be a waste of time. Tipped 400 baht as her massage was decent.

Mua Tur
08-22-13, 09:33
Hey Duni, what is it exactly that you taught them? How to get fucked over by one of their own? They.
Here's how we taught one of these low life Indians in Pattaya. . and left them holding the bill. The third girl made her way outside, pretending to go to the toilet. Think it cost them a few thousand bahts.Yes we taught that, by any chance, making full is no matter even they are from same place.

Goatscrot
08-22-13, 12:30
Goatscrot, and all those who are upset with me for whatever reason, I'd just like to say that it was never my intention to offend or anger anyone. If you take the time to read my posts, you will see two things. First, generally I do indeed provide identifying information. It was just this one girl that is the exception, and I explained the reasons for this before. I feel that it is within my right to make the decision, and don't particularly want to go through the whole thing again (and again, and again).

Second, I hope that my posts are not as worthless as you suggest, even without identifying information. If they are entertaining, great, but in reality, they should be informative. While they may not be of any use to you who has been there and done that, consider the perspective of those who have never been to BKK. Some of the details in my report might be useful to them, even more so than a specific name.

I had prepared lengthy responses on these and other points, but I'd rather draw a line under this issue and move on. If you decide to create a new thread, good luck with that (I personally think it is an unworkable idea) , but until then, I will continue with my next report.Kumba,

I am not at all upset with you. In fact, I think you are a terrific writer. You are witty, creative, and spin it well. Kudos for that. The posts are entertaining, very entertaining. Just want to know who the providers are, especially when you report on oily places like Mango. No reason to keep that under the hat.

CorporateMalaya
08-22-13, 13:48
Hey Duni, what is it exactly that you taught them? How to get fucked over by one of their own? Am I missing something? What did they do to you to deserve that? Is that how you treat your own countrymen just because they are lower class than you?Totally agree with Daddy on this.

CorporateMalaya
08-22-13, 14:08
I don't think you are ready to travel the world.My My.


Here's how we taught one of these low life Indians in Pattaya. Me and my friend had two lovelies with us and we met this group of five at an Indian restaurant.So you take your lovelies for dinner to places frequented by low life's, why? The low life's could afford the restaurant, so the discerning factor are the two lovelies whose company I presume makes you a high-life, whaaaaaaaaaaaatt.


They got excited and asked how we got them, how much etc. Etc. (typical lowlife attitude. First time travel outside India and still having the MCP attitude).Everyone has a first time, I am sure you also did at a point of time. Do you really think that it is your charm, smile and typical high-life attitude that super-glues the lovelies to you. You monger and yet confusingly talk about others being MCP, maybe you have not seen the campaign:"real men don't pay for Sex."

Rjsss212
08-22-13, 15:24
I don't think you are ready to travel the world.Dude, I'm still scratching my head over this post. Why would you even tell such a story and what point were you trying to make?

Gajith
08-22-13, 16:06
Everyone has a first time, I am sure you also did at a point of time. Do you really think that it is your charm, smile and typical high-life attitude that super-glues the lovelies to you. You monger and yet confusingly talk about others being MCP, maybe you have not seen the campaign:"real men don't pay for Sex."I liked it! Which is TRUE indeed!

Syzygies
08-22-13, 16:37
Depends how you view the forum and maybe life in general. I enjoy reading new reports from places that are relevant to me and post ocassionaly. The report, stories and fights are all part and parcel of ISG and has been for past 10/15 years that I've been a member. Some boards are lame others are lively. I say theres room for all and for types theres room. No need for separate threads for " I fucked a girl for 500bht" " " I fucked one for less than that" or " I got one from Rainbow pt 1" " I got one from rainbow pt 2" " I ate tomyam" " I ate somtam". Leave it all on one happy thread.I really hope your report is a sarcastic one, because actually the concept of Forums being divided into separate thread topics is very sensible. Many of the threads here I am typically not opening as have no interest.

I don't like to see too much no mongering topics other than in the general thread, which I don't have to read if I don't want to. If there is an STDs thread, an can ignore all of Pink Pearl's paranoia in there. So a Stories thread would have its benefits.

Unlike yourself, I don't want to read on every possible topic. In the case of raving nutters, I do add some to my ignore list.

The only thing that prevents the threads working properly is the people posting stuff irrelevant to the thread. This is mostly caused by a large lack of Thread moderation.

I would be very happy to have a Bangkok Specific Girl Reports, thread for example, and a Bangkok Mongering Venues Thread. I would love to have a "Pricing Debates" thread to completely ignore. LOL

LittleBigMan
08-22-13, 16:44
Hey Duni, what is it exactly that you taught them? How to get fucked over by one of their own? They were excited about how you found beautiful Thai girl companions and wanted to talk to you about it so you asked them to sit with you and then sneaked out sticking them with your huge bill to pay. Am I missing something? What did they do to you to deserve that? Is that how you treat your own countrymen just because they are lower class than you? Seems like you as an Indian despise other Indians just as much as the Thais.Hey Daddy07,

What is wrong with that? When in Thailand discrimination is a common practice within their own people so it should be no surprise that a Indian would do that to a Indian? When you are one up on another you give them what Thais do all the time "head toe" number.

When I was young I mean real young I did this all the time with my boy's in Chinatown back home. We use to go eat late at night then get up and walk out without paying, of course then couldn't get a girl to eat with us that is why I'm here, until one night we did this at the wrong restaurant and all hell broke loose? Of course then I was young and stupid and now I'm on the righteous road?

See, some people just never learn they stay stupid even at a older age? Think pork ribs baby pork ribs?

LBM

Duniawala
08-22-13, 17:16
Hey Duni, what is it exactly that you taught them? How to get fucked over by one of their own? They were excited about how you found beautiful Thai girl companions and wanted to talk to you about it so you asked them to sit with you and then sneaked out sticking them with your huge bill to pay. Am I missing something? What did they do to you to deserve that? Is that how you treat your own countrymen just because they are lower class than you? Seems like you as an Indian despise other Indians just as much as the Thais.I did not see them as brand ambassadors of my former country. They were crude and uncouth. You should have heard them (in Indian language) which talking about the women. It was disgusting to me. So yes, fucked them over for that. I don't despise Indians. I despise lowlifes who travel abroad and give us all a bad name.

Sir Lancelot
08-22-13, 18:03
I agree that many / most WGs see a lot of action but that does not mean they cannot be they cannot be treated with respect. And plastering details of your f*ck with a particular girl all over ISG cannot be regarded as treating her with respect. It is down right insulting.
Second, I hope that my posts are not as worthless as you suggest, even without identifying information. If they are entertaining, great, but in reality, they should be informative. While they may not be of any use to you who has been there and done that, consider the perspective of those who have never been to BKK. Some of the details in my report might be useful to them, even more so than a specific name.These girls often want to make as much money in as short a time as possible. If they get extra custom because someone has written a glowing report, good for them, they deserve it. How is it insulting? Remember, this is the job they are choosing to do.

Secondly, you are assuming that all readers of ISG are similar to you with the same experience, who just want to read about the bare minimum of information (venue, bar-fine, good or bad, the end). But a lot of people read this forum when preparing for their first trip to Thailand. I know I did. As such perhaps they want to read about what actually happens post bar-fine and what they can expect when they get a girl back to their room. Also I suspect a lot of people use this site as a bit of escapism back home between trips (I fall into this category at the moment). In-depth reports from the front-line like Kumbu's add much-needed interest to this forum and are a welcome diversion from the usual bickering about tipping, riding bare-back and sim-cards.

Paul Kausch
08-22-13, 18:11
I really hope your report is a sarcastic one, because actually the concept of Forums being divided into separate thread topics is very sensible. Many of the threads here I am typically not opening as have no interest.

I would be very happy to have a Bangkok Specific Girl Reports, thread for example, and a Bangkok Mongering Venues Thread. I would love to have a "Pricing Debates" thread to completely ignore. LOLLast time I posted on this issue I made one of my sarcastic smart ass remarks just to prove I can be an a*hole. Putting that aside, wouldn't there be value in having the reports in the specific MP threads contain informative field reports. They wouldn't have to follow a structured form, but there could be an expectation that certain information would be provided. Then there could be a separate thread for Kumba Reports. I'm trying to introduce this term into the ISG lexicon. The point of this thread would be to write entertaining stories about experiences with gogo girls, MP girls, freelancers, etc.

Would it be useful to expand this idea and have a thread for Nana Entertainment Plaza, a thread for Soi Cowboy, a thread for night clubs?

I think Syzygies is correct that a well thought out set of threads makes it easier to focus on topics of interest.

Goatscrot
08-22-13, 18:48
Last time I posted on this issue I made one of my sarcastic smart ass remarks just to prove I can be an a*hole. Putting that aside, wouldn't there be value in having the reports in the specific MP threads contain informative field reports. They wouldn't have to follow a structured form, but there could be an expectation that certain information would be provided. Then there could be a separate thread for Kumba Reports. I'm trying to introduce this term into the ISG lexicon. The point of this thread would be to write entertaining stories about experiences with gogo girls, MP girls, freelancers, etc.

Would it be useful to expand this idea and have a thread for Nana Entertainment Plaza, a thread for Soi Cowboy, a thread for night clubs?

I think Syzygies is correct that a well thought out set of threads makes it easier to focus on topics of interest.Agree 100. Obviously different people come to the forum for different reasons. It is nice to be able to find what you are looking for without wading through things you are not really interested in. However, I do think that division can go a bit to far. Separate threads for Cowboy and Nana might be ok, but breaking it down into individual bars is going a bit to far.

Mua Tur
08-22-13, 18:56
So yes, fucked them over for that. I don't despise Indians. I despise lowlifes who travel abroad and give us all a bad name.So you taught them having an example how to make fool others and being civilized in your way.

Scorchin
08-22-13, 19:23
I continue to believe that MP threads should focus on the MP and not on a particular WG.

A good MP will have more than one 'exceptional' WG. And reporting her by name may, or may not result in a flood of ISG members panting to f*ck her. So much so that she

Decides that this is easy money and lowers her performance standards.

Far better that we know about the general ambience, the location, the availability of WGs (even to the ratio of 'tall, thin, pale to short, chubby, dark skinned) , the numbers of WGs, the bar, the prices. And to hell with an OP saying how well Leck or Noi or April f*ck*the. All three will be tending the sick buffalo or going to Granny's funeral (contributions of Baht 2, 000 welcome / solicited). By the time I / we get there.

For example, Annie's has some great WGs but crap rooms, you may or may not get an air mattress, and the service tends to be formal. And if all the girls on the web site are not five year's olderthan stated and inarticulate in English, I have a bridge to sell. I may appear to knock Annie's but come November it will still be my post arrival starting MP visit. But with clearly defined expectations

Syzygies
08-22-13, 19:33
Far better that we know about the general ambience, the location, the availability of WGs (even to the ratio of 'tall, thin, pale to short, chubby, dark skinned) , the numbers of WGs, the bar, the prices. And to hell with an OP saying how well Leck or Noi or April f*ck*the. All three will be tending the sick buffalo or going to Granny's funeral (contributions of Baht 2, 000 welcome / solicited). By the time I / we get there.

For example, Annie's has some great WGs but crap rooms, you may or may not get an air mattress, and the service tends to be formal. And if all the girls on the web site are not five year's olderthan stated and inarticulate in English, I have a bridge to sell. I may appear to knock Annie's but come November it will still be my post arrival starting MP visit. But with clearly defined expectationsFuck the "ambience". I have been to Annies. I don't want to read about it any more. I have a fair Idea there are certain rooms with body slide mattresses and they are not air-mattresses.

The only thing useful is to hear about the style and looks of specific girls. Her exact age is of little importance if over 18.

LittleBigMan
08-22-13, 21:02
i did not see them as brand ambassadors of my former country. they were crude and uncouth. you should have heard them (in indian language) which talking about the women. it was disgusting to me. so yes, fucked them over for that. i don't despise indians. i despise lowlifes who travel abroad and give us all a bad name.so why did you invite them to sit or join you? at what point did you decided to stick them with the bill? or what it after they started picking their toes, nose or in the end was it the smell? surely i know it is hot but the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) you noted couldn't have dried that fast to already started smelling unless you were eating outdoors?

lbm

Scorchin
08-22-13, 21:16
Fuck the "ambience". I have been to Annies. I don't want to read about it any more. I have a fair Idea there are certain rooms with body slide mattresses and they are not air-mattresses.

The only thing useful is to hear about the style and looks of specific girls. Her exact age is of little importance if over 18.But I know full well that by the time November comes your great choices will be back home, got a boy friend, got pregnant, got idle. And will be of f all interest to me.

As to not reading about Annie's. I suggest 'ignore' might be your best bet. Since it has its own thread it is clearly a 'base for discussion.

PS. Save me the bother of looking. Please give the dates / times of your last three 'picks' on here.

Qte Last night I was teaching my newbie girl BBBJ techniques and she is learning fast. Was quite good without being deep throat. Many things to teach her, like how she must tell the customer what time she needs to go home by when doing LT so he has plenty of time to get his morning pop. Unqte

Named???????

Paul Kausch
08-22-13, 23:21
Agree 100. Obviously different people come to the forum for different reasons. It is nice to be able to find what you are looking for without wading through things you are not really interested in. However, I do think that division can go a bit to far. Separate threads for Cowboy and Nana might be ok, but breaking it down into individual bars is going a bit to far.You are absolutely right. There is a happy medium. As others have pointed out, there no longer appears to be much need for a Tulip thread. Maybe only one oily and one soapy thread; I think one gogo bar thread or maybe one for NEP and one for Soi Cowboy makes sense; and similarly, one for night clubs, beer bars and free lance pickups. This may not make much difference to people who know Bangkok, but for first timers it might make it easier.

PinkPearl
08-23-13, 00:36
i would be very happy to have a bangkok specific girl reports, thread for example, and a bangkok mongering venues thread. i would love to have a "pricing debates" thread to completely ignore. lolwhat's stopping you? go to "user threads" & create your own like other isg members have.

personally i don't have any interest in 95 percent of the posts & mostly just speed read through threads like this one to see if anything catches my eye, like a reference to street walkers, for example.

most threads i seldom even open at all, as i have no interest in them. like pattaya, massage, etc. bkk, general topics & safe sex discussions sometimes have something that is of interest to me, so i surf through them at lightning fast speed, looking for a needle in a haystack.

certain posters names, as soon as i see them, i immediately scroll past, knowing they are a wot for me, as they have a history of posting stuff i'm not interested in, or find useless. it takes one second to do that. if you can't spare that, there are other sites that divide things into a million post subjects. you could go there instead. then i wouldn't have to hear another 5 years of whining, lol.

TConor
08-23-13, 01:09
Places that do unlimited times without extra charge are: Mango, Tulip, Snow White, Cherry.

Luvpuss
08-23-13, 01:25
hey everyone, i am back!

having a great time.

thailand is the greatest place in the world.

gfe with 2 sw's cum in pussy. nana lot. pantavee and nim. both are out there each night after midnight. both in 20's and pretty cute.

hit up [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. dara is kind of heavy but sweet. gfe fucked in the booth and shot a wad on her face.

not bad for the first day. ha. i am very excited about this trip.

hope all of you have as much fun as i do.

Pita123
08-23-13, 01:59
Places that do unlimited times without extra charge are: Mango, Tulip, Snow White, Cherry.Only places I'm aware of, other than my hotel room.

Mr Enternational
08-23-13, 02:03
Fuck the "ambience". I have been to Annies. I don't want to read about it any more. I have a fair Idea there are certain rooms with body slide mattresses and they are not air-mattresses.

The only thing useful is to hear about the style and looks of specific girls. Her exact age is of little importance if over 18.For me the only thing of importance is WHERE can I get some pussy. I will pick my own girl and pass my own judgments using my own rating scale once I get there thank you very much.

Daddy07
08-23-13, 02:10
I did not see them as brand ambassadors of my former country. They were crude and uncouth. You should have heard them (in Indian language) which talking about the women. It was disgusting to me. So yes, fucked them over for that. I don't despise Indians. I despise lowlifes who travel abroad and give us all a bad name.Yeah, I understand completely and don't blame you for being disgusted, but doing to them what you did didn't teach them anything except how to hate other high class Indians like yourself. Instead of inviting them to your table you might better have simply berated them in their own language for acting like a bunch of barbarian lowlifes and bringing shame upon their fellow countrymen in Thailand. You had a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment. Unless your Thai girl companions spoke Indian they would not have known what you were doing so you could have handled it without making a scene or cheating them. I guess this is proof of what I have heard that Indians of different social classes really do hate each other. It's sad.

Rjsss212
08-23-13, 02:25
Diniawala, that evening aside, tell us why you told the story here?

What was the point you were making?

Goatscrot
08-23-13, 02:54
hey everyone, i am back!

having a great time.

thailand is the greatest place in the world.

gfe with 2 sw's cum in pussy. nana lot. pantavee and nim. both are out there each night after midnight. both in 20's and pretty cute.

hit up [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. dara is kind of heavy but sweet. gfe fucked in the booth and shot a wad on her face.

not bad for the first day. ha. i am very excited about this trip.

hope all of you have as much fun as i do.welcome back. sounds like you are having no problem getting back in the swing of things!

Goatscrot
08-23-13, 03:01
I continue to believe that MP threads should focus on the MP and not on a particular WG.

A good MP will have more than one 'exceptional' WG. And reporting her by name may, or may not result in a flood of ISG members panting to f*ck her. So much so that she

Decides that this is easy money and lowers her performance standards.

Far better that we know about the general ambience, the location, the availability of WGs (even to the ratio of 'tall, thin, pale to short, chubby, dark skinned) , the numbers of WGs, the bar, the prices. And to hell with an OP saying how well Leck or Noi or April f*ck*the. All three will be tending the sick buffalo or going to Granny's funeral (contributions of Baht 2, 000 welcome / solicited). By the time I / we get there.

For example, Annie's has some great WGs but crap rooms, you may or may not get an air mattress, and the service tends to be formal. And if all the girls on the web site are not five year's olderthan stated and inarticulate in English, I have a bridge to sell. I may appear to knock Annie's but come November it will still be my post arrival starting MP visit. But with clearly defined expectationsSorry, I don't go to MPs to take a shot in the dark. I don't care about ambiance, or rooms, I go for performers. ISG dudes are not the only guys out there are we are not the only forum, so if a girl is good she is going to get traffic whether we name her or not. If she can hack it, she will stay in the biz, if not she will leave. So we should try to get our shots in while we can. Just accept that and get over it and share the wealth. She is a sex worker FFS. That is why we are here.

Syzygies
08-23-13, 03:06
As to not reading about Annie's. I suggest 'ignore' might be your best bet. Since it has its own thread it is clearly a 'base for discussion.

PS. Save me the bother of looking. Please give the dates / times of your last three 'picks' on here.I can read about girls on the Annies thread. My last 3 picks reported long ago, RTFF.

Reading about places is useful, but only if they have not been done to death already or something has changed. Annies is so well known it needs less comment about the place.

Kumbu
08-23-13, 08:48
the exertions of mango were easily alleviated by some tasty but expensive dinner at the emporium. that's an often under-appreciated fact about bkk: that the food options are numerous, both in terms of quality as well as price. in so many places that you go to monger, the food options are limited to very basic things, e. g, pork, beans and rice, or sausages with french fries, or something nasty like that. but bkk offers a huge variety of foods, provided you are not set on exactly what you get back home. for example, if i am looking for mama's pizza, i ain't finding it in bkk: not even in the emporium. but if i am willing to try something new, something spicy, and something unnervingly exotic, i am very likely to get a kick in the taste buds along with that kick in the balls from the mongering.

afterwards i powered up at the starbucks at the emporium. i asked for a quad red eye, and it just took forever to explain what this meant. four shots of espresso, yes, four shots, into coffee, yes, regular coffee. no, not water, no not an americano, i want four shots of espresso into a cup of coffee. no, not a quad americano. look, make four shots of espresso into this cup, and then fill it up with coffee. yes, coffee, coffee. coffee. not water. coffee.

three minutes later i get a triple americano. i returned it to profuse amounts of 'sorry kaaa', and about 10 minutes later it got figured out (or maybe they stumbled upon it by accident). i don't mean to demean the local starbuck's employees, because this is also probably my fault in that i don't speak thai, but it was just such a struggle to get this simple concept across.

anyway, properly motivated by my quad red eye, i motored back to the hotel, showered properly, jingled back down soi 11 to a coffee shop for some dinner, topped up with a suitable amount of carbs laden with plenty of spices, and then tittered my way over to nep. my first stop was r3 to visit the plus sized cutie who had eyes for everyone except kumbu. glutton for punishment, or ever the optimist?

i come in, and she is just getting off her stage shift. she is squeezing into a pathetically tight set of jean shorts, and as she jiggles this way and that to get her ass into the jeans, she looks my way. our eyes meet, and i see her mouth move a little, her eyes tighten just a tad around the edges, and her brow furrow ever so slightly. for a moment i imagined sparks were flying between us, only to realize the expression on her face was not attraction or intrigue, but a grimace. she was doing her best to get the heft and full breadth of her ass into the petite jean shorts.

i sat down and decided that all this footsie was getting me no where: might as well poke the sleeping lion, or else i will never know if she is worth further effort or not. so i call her over, and rather than scamper over like most other gogo girls, this girl smiles but saunters over at her own pace. she sits daintily next to me and we start to chat. i get her vital statistics, she gets mine, and after a few minutes of labored chatting, i make the pitch.

k: you want to come to my hotel?

#81: ok kaa. you want st or lt?

k: how much for each?

#81: st 3500b lt 5000b.

k: wow.

#81: (smiles revealing a cute dimple)

k: wow.

#81: looks disinterestedly away at the stage, like, whatever.

k: wow.

so i check bin and walk out, never to return to r3. i trot over to r1 looking for the possibly under-aged #45. i get in and mama san invites me to her spot. i sit down next to her and get a drink for me. i offer mama san a drink, and to my surprise, she declines. she cites either indigestion or poong pui, i couldn't tell which, but whatever, i was just being polite. i strike up a conversation with the lady, who you could tell was a striking lady just a few years ago. she is probably in her mid forties, just a few years older than me, and was probably a gogo girl in her time. so she knows the business pretty well. she has a pretty face, but one which you can tell takes no bullshit. she sees right through all of us, both the customers and the girls. she chews gum incessantly like it powers her bullshit-meter. and in this line of work, that is a crucial tool of the trade.

so i ask her about #45. where is she? she tells me that she no come tonight. i tell her that makes three days in a row now. she looks confused. she walks over to the counter and checks with her book, and comes back and shows me the sign of a cross with her two arms, indicating that #45 has been axed from the books. i ask her why, and she says don't know, the girl never came back. i asked if she was ****, and mama san looks at me with a straight face, too straight of a face. she brings her face close to mine, switches her gum from one side of her mouth to the other, our noses perhaps 2 inches apart, and she says in a monotone,"no, she not too young, she no like gogo bar, ok kaa?"

ok krap.

i was 2 inches from this somewhat attractive older former gogo girl. i could smell the mint flavored gum she was chewing incessantly, the smell of some kind of orange drink she had consumed earlier, and the scent of cheap hair conditioner. i could see the discolorations of the sclera in her left eye, and the gentle bags beneath both her eyes. somehow i felt a sense of closeness to this woman, who i had met perhaps six times in the last six days, and with whom i had built a kind of professional rapport. she was slim, well-built, and had verve like few girls on stage. and i knew that if i ended up in bed with her, she would rock my fucking world. i mean, she looked tough as nails, and given that she has probably been around the block a few times, she probably knows tricks that no one else does. hell, this might be just what the doctor ordered.

"mama san (kumbu looks her in the eyes) , customer bar fine mama san, daay may?"

she stopped chewing her gum. she did not move her face, still two inches from mine, but she looked me straight in the eye. her gaze did not waiver for 10 seconds, nor did mine. the music thumped in the background, and the girls danced and squealed like never before, sensing that something was happening. everything seemed to slow down, my eyes focused on hers, noise and commotion all around us. but after 10 seconds of the childhood game of who blinks first, kumbu blinked first. i broke off and began to explain myself, at which point she broke off, turned around and welcomed a large falang man with a certain crazy in his eyes into her bar. she ushered him to a spot far away from me, and as she passed me, she looked at me through the corner of her eye with utter disdain. wow, she did not like being propositioned, and to tell the truth, i think i might have offended her. not sure how, but that was surreal.

ok, so the hunt continues. it was now almost 11:30pm, and i get a text from the skinny model from climax asking where i am, and whether i want to go with her tonight. i reply saying i am around, but not that interested. maybe tomorrow (phphphp). the skinny model had pissed me off with her antics a few nights earlier. she wanted a 1000b tip for hooking me up with her leggy friend, which i thought was excessive. and she then got pissy with me when i failed to pay her the full 1000b. so i decided that she did not deserve to drink from the well of kumbu.

literally minutes later, her leggy friend texted me with the same question (worded differently). it occurred to me that they were sitting right next to each other doing this, and it kind of amused me to think of the skinny girl's face and ego taking a hit when i agree to go with leggy. i was not terribly interested in her, but on the other hand, i would not mind nailing that pair of legs again. i would have to be careful to avoid the skin-ripping bj, but other than that, she was a good lay.

so i agreed, and i tried to be as over-the-top excited as i could, just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the skinny girl. we agreed that leggy would come directly to my hotel at midnight, so i would not need to deal with the rigors of climax. so i hightailed it back to the hotel, showered again, and as soon as i was done, she called me from the lobby. perfect timing. i go down to get her, and this time the hotel guy wants her i'd. cool.

when we get in, we do the niceties over a beer, and then she showers. i was already clean, so i got into bed and awaited her. she came out promptly, perhaps too promptly, and turned off the lights completely. no, no, no, this would not do, an artist needs light in order to work. i must have light! so on come a few lights.

i get right down to business, kissing her neck and ears (remembering that this really turned her on). i then went down to her breasts, which remember, were fake as hell. they were huge, softer than most fakkies, but still fake. i tried to get into them, to really suck them silly, but i just couldn't get into it. in fact, around minute 3 of the affair, little kumbu began to lose his stiffness, which is a sure-tell sign that this is not natural. so i went south.

as i approached her pubic region, i once again kissed passed her pubic hair and around her hip. i turned her onto her side and maneuvered my kisses onto her butt cheeks, with the intention of accessing her pubic region from the back side, kind of doing the long-tongue routine. now the ltr is a difficult move to pull off, especially on a largish girl, since it requires that you strain your tongue to its maximum length and to wiggle and stimulate in this extended position for lengthy periods of time. it also is difficult to execute because your view is partially occluded by, well, ass meat. so you have a partially obscured view, and require lengthy use of your fully extended tongue, which makes the ltr a move that is not for the faint of heart. but i feel confident in my experience, and having pulled it off several times with other, sometimes larger women, i felt the time was right to try it again.

however, as i approached the butt crack, i smelled the all-too familiar odor of an unwashed crevice. it was stank, pure and simple, and kumbu was not about to tolerate it. damn, i was not at all interested in sticking bits of my oral apparatus into human cracks that are unwashed. in fact, who knows if she had cleaned since she and i had last been together, two nights previous? i gently shuddered.

ok, the ltr, and any other move on the daty is a no go for tonight. i therefore attempted to execute my mission: to kiss from her ankles up the legs, across the ass and down the other leg again. i turned her onto her belly and worked my way down her legs. i have to say though that her legs were magnificent. the flesh was firm, supple and beautifully textured. it had a sheen to it that only leg meat has, and i drooled my way all the way down her left leg, taking deep, full mouthfuls of thigh, hammie and then calf flesh. oh the decadence, it was fantastic.

i got to the ankle, worked all around the ankle, and then methodically worked my way back up. every inch was covered, meticulously kissed and nuzzled, until i got to the ass, and then again that stench took over. holy cow, what the hell was in there? i decided my mission could not be accomplished today, since i could not tolerate crossing that ravine in this condition.

so i pulled out and was not sure what to do now: my plan had been spoiled. she senses the indecision and gets up and makes for the bbbj. oh good heavens no! please! for the love of all that is holy and proper in this world, not the bbbj! anything but the bj! but she was intent on sucking, perhaps to inflict pain on me, but she would not take no for an answer.

ok, so i decided i would try to teach her how to not hurt me. i told her not to stretch the penis skin like she was doing, and she seemed confused. i offered her little kumbu, and pulled her hand away from the base so she could not stretch anything. she sucked gingerly at first, and then decided to take more into her mouth. and as she did so, she bared her fangs and scraped teeth down the shaft. aaaaahhh! i grimaced louder than i needed to, just to send her the message, and she looked up at me, dick in mouth, and made a kind of muffled 'wha? ' sound. i said, 'no teeth, it hurts', and she chuckles as if i was kidding, and proceeds to give little kumbu a tooth job. aaaaahhh!

enough!

i pull out and throw her to the bed in a frantic attempt to save my manhood. ok girl, it is time for some fucking, no, no, i mean, it is time for some ffffffffffffffucking. on went the trojan, and i put my hand between her legs to see if she was wet yet. to my surprise, she was. i thought it might be lube she stuck into herself in the shower, and decided i did not care: it was time to fuck, and any cerebral considerations were out the window.

in goes little kumbu, and i slid in easily. tonight was the night for the fan treatment (tm). here's how this works. you start in missionary position and insert just your head into her pussy and do a few gentle in-and-outs, just to get the ball rolling. you then slowly increase the depth of your plumbing, gently pumping in and out, with each stroke going millimeters deeper than that last, until you are about half way into her pussy. pump for a while at this very precise depth, carefully avoiding the temptation to plunge any deeper. it is likely that the angle of penetration is from the top down into her pussy because you are propped above her pushing down. so here is where the fan treatment (tm) comes in.

you pull out about 90% and drop your balls right down onto the sheets and then push back in, but this time at an upward angle, hitting the roof of her vagina and rubbing all the way back. once you are about half way into her pussy, you raise your body, thus changing the angle of your penis. the bottom of her vagina then acts as a fulcrum and the middle of your penis is the pivot point. so as you raise your body, the tip of the penis fans downward within her vagina, stimulating regions of the vagina which are rarely stimulated. this is the fan treatment (tm).

it is hard to pull off, and requires some upper body and abdominal strength, but it is definitely worth it. you repeat this over and over, and the key to the move is that your penis fans from top to bottom within her vagina, over and over again. again, should you choose to use this move, and report on it here, please refer to it as the fan treatment (tm). uncle volodya, when you try this with your monogamous girl, and she splinters into pieces in delight, just gently whisper into her ear,"who likes the fan treatment?"

as i began this, she gasped out loud. her fingers grasped the back of my shoulders and she began digging her fingernails into my back. i kind of enjoy that level of enthusiasm, but honestly, she was hurting my delicate back. i am not built like an ox, although i think of myself as somewhat fit, but still, the strength she had in those fingers was quite disconcerting. nonetheless, i pressed on. i did the fan treatment (tm) for another 2-3 minutes before she started to crescendo. she whimpered a little, and i picked up my pace. she groaned, and i increased the height of the fan. she let out a long, soulful aaaaaaaaah, and i rammed myself fully into her, and the race to the finish was on. the energy picked up, and we were fucking like rabbits suddenly. all 'techniques' were out the window and we were just animals copulating as hard and as fast as we could.

she came, and it was rather obvious because i could feel liquid around little kumbu, even through the condom. she was really wet downstairs, and i began wondering where i would sleep that night (the sheets being puddled as they were). so i slowed and let her catch her breath. she looks at me and asks 'why you no finish? '

i looked at her and said, 'you want me to finish? ok, all i need is your legs. ' so i lifted her legs up above her head, little kumbu still stuck within her, and i held her legs together in front of me. i could not see her face through the legs: all i could see was ankles up top, beautiful well-shaped legs right in front of my face, going down to the round, substantial hips / butt, with little kumbu stuck into the pussy. i fucked her hard at that point while i sucked her left calf, then her right calf. my hands were grabbing her thighs, front and back, groping at full speed, perhaps too hard, but grabbing as much leg flesh as i could. the feeling of leg flesh in my mouth, my hands and on my chest, with little kumbu pumping away at top speed was enough to send me over the edge, and presto whamo, things were done.

i showered, then she did, i paid her 2000b, and off she went. i went to sleep a happy man that night, having had two decent experiences for the day, which more than made up for the loss of the previous night.

my next report is of a pickup from soi cowboy (bacarra). this girl was the pick of the bunch, and easily made my whole trip a memorable joy.

Syzygies
08-23-13, 11:02
Afterwards I powered up at the Starbucks at the Emporium. I asked for a quad red eye, and it just took forever to explain what this meant. Four shots of espresso, yes, four shots, into coffee, yes, regular coffee. No, not water, no not an Americano, I want four shots of espresso into a cup of coffee. No, not a quad Americano. Look, make four shots of espresso into this cup, and then fill it up with coffee. Yes, coffee, coffee. Coffee. Not water. Coffee.

Three minutes later I get a triple Americano. I returned it to profuse amounts of 'sorry kaaa', and about 10 minutes later it got figured out (or maybe they stumbled upon it by accident). I don't mean to demean the local Starbuck's employees, because this is also probably my fault in that I don't speak Thai, but it was just such a struggle to get this simple concept across.Ha Ha! If you make it too complex they won't get it. Americano should not be mentioned at any stage of the order, nor water nor coffee. No jargon like "red eye","quad" etc. If their English is not good you need to stay away from any local slang and any non-English words except for "Espresso" which is standard on the menu. Its simply Espresso 4 shots or Espresso with 3 extra shots. Not "in a cup of coffee" but just in a cup. LOL. If you get 4 separate shot cups, not the end of the world. Then you can ask for 1 big empty cup and tip them all in. I am not American so have little idea what Americano is. That term is not used in my country LOL.

It does help that I speak Thai, I guess, but even then.

Even I speak Thai, I have similar problems. Elsewhere, trying to get my salad without mayonnaise but to supply the mayo separately for example. I did not want the salad swimming in a lake of Mayo. LOL. I don't really like most Mayo at all. I also wanted to each the salad concurrently with main dish and not beforehand, which they have been trained is Farang custom, but actually not in my country. Like Thailand (when eating Thai food) , my country eats different things concurrently rather than serially.

Starbucks will supply ketchup with almost all food, regardless of what it is, well maybe excepting cheesecake (I'm not sure). They have knife and forks, but no spoons. This is weird for Thailand, as I find it much easier to eat most things with a spoon. Almost everything will be "warmed" in the microwave till it is to hot too eat and all gone limp / soggy. This is despite not asking for my sandwich to be warmed. In my country sandwiches are largely eaten cold. Otherwise some people like it "toasted" but not "warmed". I have sort of now got used to ordering every thing with "NO warm" tacked on the end, lest it be "blowtorched" into a mess in the microwave.

Yin Yang
08-23-13, 11:47
Ha Ha! If you make it too complex they won't get it. Americano should not be mentioned at any stage of the order, nor water nor coffee. No jargon like "red eye","quad" etc. If their English is not good you need to stay away from any local slang and any non-English words except for "Espresso" which is standard on the menu. Its simply Espresso 4 shots or Espresso with 3 extra shots. Not "in a cup of coffee" but just in a cup. LOL. If you get 4 separate shot cups, not the end of the world. Then you can ask for 1 big empty cup and tip them all in. I am not American so have little idea what Americano is. That term is not used in my country LOL.No wonder Starbucks staff don't get it if it's too complicated for senior ISG members. If Kumbu wants a "red eye," he wants espresso shots in a normal drip brew coffee. I had to consult Wikipedia myself but now I know and will pester Starbucks staff with my request if I need a booster like that.

BTW, kudos to Kumbu again for a nice report. No names but interesting facts about negotiations and technique.

Syzygies
08-23-13, 13:31
No wonder Starbucks staff don't get it if it's too complicated for senior ISG members. If Kumbu wants a "red eye," he wants espresso shots in a normal drip brew coffee. I had to consult Wikipedia myself but now I know and will pester Starbucks staff with my request if I need a booster like that.

BTW, kudos to Kumbu again for a nice report. No names but interesting facts about negotiations and technique.Your right. Looks like I did not get it either. I don't know what is "regular coffee" in his definition. Does it have milk or not? I was thinking just Espressos. I take Café Latte without froth (mai sai fong) (ohne schaum) and extra shots, and they seem to get that right.

Sorry guys we are in wrong thread. I am stuck in a non-mongering location right now for 3 weeks.

Jdbkk555
08-23-13, 15:03
I found this nice lady on DIA. Interesting as we first met for lunch. She's quite nice but a bit hard to read. So I played it cautiously as one should with a non professional.

Overall, a very nice lady. She's like 26. No kids, never married before. 2 years since last bf. There seem to be a lot of these in BKK. Wonder why?

We were having drinks late night Rooftop and it occurred to me to just go ahead and reserve a room there. So we moved deepen for or so floors. Nice room. She was very caring and wanting to give. Problem is she's not so flexible any more which made several positions non starters. But I'd try her again.

Duniawala
08-23-13, 15:58
Yeah, I understand completely and don't blame you for being disgusted, but doing to them what you did didn't teach them anything except how to hate other high class Indians like yourself. Instead of inviting them to your table you might better have simply berated them in their own language for acting like a bunch of barbarian lowlifes and bringing shame upon their fellow countrymen in Thailand. You had a perfect opportunity for a teaching moment. Unless your Thai girl companions spoke Indian they would not have known what you were doing so you could have handled it without making a scene or cheating them. I guess this is proof of what I have heard that Indians of different social classes really do hate each other. It's sad.This was many years ago when I was young and hot headed (early 90's). I have mellowed out considerably since then. It was the only way I could teach them something by hitting their pocket books. It is unwise to talk to idiots because they drag you down to their level and they beat you with their experience. You have to be in my shoes to really feel what I felt.

I genuinely try to help fellow Indians when they need it. But yes, it raises hackles when they talk like shit. And it has nothing to do with class or education. I had a similar experience years later at LL sports bar. A professor (Indian) in an American University no less. This time I just walked away. No point of talking to an idiot no matter how educated they may be. Indians or anyone els, whatever social classes they may be, I just can't stand people who believes in demeaning women, physically or mentally. And Daddy07 live a few years in India to really know the good, bad and the ugly faces.

RBDave
08-23-13, 16:41
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Afterwards I powered up at the Starbucks at the Emporium. I asked for a quad red eye, and it just took forever to explain what this meant. Four shots of espresso, yes, four shots, into coffee, yes, regular coffee. No, not water, no not an Americano, I want four shots of espresso into a cup of coffee. No, not a quad Americano. Look, make four shots of espresso into this cup, and then fill it up with coffee. Yes, coffee, coffee. Coffee. Not water. Coffee.

Three minutes later I get a triple Americano. I returned it to profuse amounts of 'sorry kaaa', and about 10 minutes later it got figured out (or maybe they stumbled upon it by accident). I don't mean to demean the local Starbuck's employees, because this is also probably my fault in that I don't speak Thai, but it was just such a struggle to get this simple concept across.

Anyway, properly motivated by my quad red eye, I motored back to the hotel, showered properly, jingled back down soi 11 to a coffee shop for some dinner, topped up with a suitable amount of carbs laden with plenty of spices, and then tittered my way over to NEP. My first stop was R3 to visit the plus sized cutie who had eyes for everyone except Kumbu. Glutton for punishment, or ever the optimist?

I was 2 inches from this somewhat attractive older former gogo girl. I could smell the mint flavored gum she was chewing incessantly, the smell of some kind of orange drink she had consumed earlier, and the scent of cheap hair conditioner. I could see the discolorations of the sclera in her left eye, and the gentle bags beneath both her eyes. Somehow I felt a sense of closeness to this woman, who I had met perhaps six times in the last six days, and with whom I had built a kind of professional rapport. She was slim, well-built, and had verve like few girls on stage. And I knew that if I ended up in bed with her, she would rock my fucking world. I mean, she looked tough as nails, and given that she has probably been around the block a few times, she probably knows tricks that no one else does. Hell, this might be just what the doctor ordered.

"Mama san (Kumbu looks her in the eyes) , customer bar fine mama san, daay may?"

She stopped chewing her gum. She did not move her face, still two inches from mine, but she looked me straight in the eye. Her gaze did not waiver for 10 seconds, nor did mine. The music thumped in the background, and the girls danced and squealed like never before, sensing that something was happening. Everything seemed to slow down, my eyes focused on hers, noise and commotion all around us. But after 10 seconds of the childhood game of who blinks first, Kumbu blinked first. I broke off and began to explain myself, at which point she broke off, turned around and welcomed a large falang man with a certain crazy in his eyes into her bar. She ushered him to a spot far away from me, and as she passed me, she looked at me through the corner of her eye with utter disdain. Wow, she did not like being propositioned, and to tell the truth, I think I might have offended her. Not sure how, but that was surreal.Nice report Kumbu. I'm not surprised Starbucks didn't understand your order in Thailand. I think they are just fine with anything on the menu board, but once you ask for something "unusual", they get lost. This isn't just at Starbucks either, I find it difficult to get an egg over medium in just about any place in Thailand. And if you said something like,"It's not an Americano, it's just four shots of espresso in a cup filled with coffee", they heard "Blah blah blah 'Americano', blah blah blah 'four shots of expresso'". I usually have better luck telling them how to make it rather than what it is,"Put four shots of espresso into a cup and then fill it with brewed coffee." Even this isn't perfect because you are placing your order with someone who is not making it.

Regarding barfining mamasan, I've never actually done it, but I've plenty of times joked with mamasan about it. Never have they been insulted. I get one of two responses,"My barfine is FREE!" or "My barfine is 10, 000 baht!" But given our rapport, it's probably apparent I'm just joking, so not sure what the response would be if I made a serious offer.

Many of the younger mamasans are recent bar girl graduates, so more likely have a sponsor, boyfriend, or husband. Still doesn't mean they don't want to be BFed though.

Rjsss212
08-23-13, 16:59
It is unwise to talk to idiots because they drag you down to their level and they beat you with their experience. You have to be in my shoes to really feel what I felt.No, you have it backwards. You have to be in our shoes.

Trying to give you at least at the benefit of doubt to explain your abhorrent behavior yet trying to comphrend your repeatedly lame attempts to rationalize your, well, your being you.

Go back and sit on your cloud Ghandi, and be sure and enjoy the view!

BionicMan
08-23-13, 17:04
Nice report Kumbu. I'm not surprised Starbucks didn't understand your order in Thailand. I think they are just fine with anything on the menu board, but once you ask for something "unusual", they get lost. .As I don't like cappuccino over not as they do in many places, I always order it "warm, not not". Usually they add non over heated milk and the job is done.

Not in a Starbucks in Burbank in the Valley area, North of LA (but it can be any where in fhe world with these globalised and formatted venues). The answer to my request was "which temperature?". FFS, can't these formatted heads think? WhT kind of a temperature does a cappuccino have to be if not having to be hot (burning your mouth)? Was she going to use a temperature probe to crosscheck? Was she going to call the Seattle HQ and ask for an urgent meeting of the technical board, joined by the marketing people, to see how full fill such a request.

I know, it is not the fault of the individual girl, but this is how we (they) are growing the new generations.

RBDave
08-23-13, 17:12
As I don't like cappuccino over not as they do in many places, I always order it "warm, not not". Usually they add non over heated milk and the job is done.

Not in a Starbucks in Burbank in the Valley area, North of LA (but it can be any where in fhe world with these globalised and formatted venues). The answer to my request was "which temperature?". FFS, can't these formatted heads think? WhT kind of a temperature does a cappuccino have to be if not having to be hot (burning your mouth)? Was she going to use a temperature probe to crosscheck? Was she going to call the Seattle HQ and ask for an urgent meeting of the technical board, joined by the marketing people, to see how full fill such a request.

I know, it is not the fault of the individual girl, but this is how we (they) are growing the new generations.I think you meant "warm, not hot". And yes, they do have a thermometer when steaming milk. You can't adjust the temperature of the espresso, but the milk can be adjusted. When steaming my own, I get it to 150 to 160F.

HectorSanchez
08-23-13, 22:31
It will be my first time in BKK. I read the BKK thread and the reviews.

I usually monger at mexico, Costa rica and Dominican Republic. Never experienced asian girls. It will be fun and different experience.

I will be in BKK on Aug 28 for about a week. I would definitely appreciate any company. It sometimes get boring to monger by myself.

If anybody is down, please let me know.

Your first beer is on me. It will be my pleasure.

Thanks

Daddy07
08-24-13, 02:04
< and daddy07 live a few years in india to really know the good, bad and the ugly faces.from what i have read about india by indian authors, and what several indians have told me about the country and the people, i don't think i even want to visit the place, much less live there. the story i get is that india is a cesspool of corruption at every level; one has to pay bribes to get anything done; lying and cheating is epidemic; the environment is filthy; superstition is rampant; the people hate each other; women risk being gang raped on busses and trains in broad daylight, and on and on. just doesn't seem like a fun place to me.

you describe india as your former country and i'm reading into that that you are mighty glad to be out of there. maybe it is your years away from india and not so much your age that has mellowed you.

NeverJerkOff
08-24-13, 03:27
Saying coffee isn't such a stretch since the Thai equivalent sounds vaguely similar and anyone working at Starbucks sure is going to know what it means. But is it me or does Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks coffee taste like [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) compared to in my native country? Even Mcdonald's burgers which were never good to begin with taste a little inferior here. I use them occasionally as sleeping medication rather than food.

A few days ago I treated one of my girls to a nice restaurant in Thonglor. 65 baht per jumbo oyster with delicious condiments. She said it made here want to have sex so maybe there is truth in it being an aphrodisiac and some guys can use it to having a better night. Thai girls love seafood in general but warning to pussy munchers when you go down you might get a sniff of the Andaman Sea and it's not pleasant. There are some great German beerhouses in that neighborhood but if you start to see an influx of Singha tank tops you may see a rise in violent crimes among the hiso community.

Unninosico
08-24-13, 05:37
The exertions of Mango were easily alleviated by some tasty but expensive dinner at the Emporium. That's an often under-appreciated fact about BKK: that the food options are numerous, both in terms of quality as well as price. In so many places that you go to monger, the food options are limited to very basic things, e. G, pork, beans and rice, or sausages with french fries, or something nasty like that. But BKK offers a huge variety of foods, provided you are not set on exactly what you get back home. For example, if I am looking for Mama's Pizza, I ain't finding it in BKK: not even in the Emporium. But if I am willing to try something new, something spicy, and something unnervingly exotic, I am very likely to get a kick in the taste buds along with that kick in the balls from the mongering.Kumbu, I have been a long time lurker in this forum. When I first started seeing your posts, I said to myself, he's one of those long winded posters who just want to test their writing skills. I was wrong! You sir are a master wordsmith and I thank you for your posts.

It entertains me and gives me insight to my trip in Oct.

Cheers sir!

Scorchin
08-24-13, 06:21
from what i have read about india by indian authors, and what several indians have told me about the country and the people, i don't think i even want to visit the place, much less live there. the story i get is that india is a cesspool of corruption at every level; one has to pay bribes to get anything done; lying and cheating is epidemic; the environment is filthy; superstition is rampant; the people hate each other; women risk being gang raped on busses and trains in broad daylight, and on and on. just doesn't seem like a fun place to me.

you describe india as your former country and i'm reading into that that you are mighty glad to be out of there. maybe it is your years away from india and not so much your age that has mellowed you.i find that the post above is so ignorant of reality, so stupid in its content and so unbelievable that i hope any indian members here will correct the op. as a visitor on many occasions to that country i find the catalogue of criticisms appears to describe an india i do not recognise so full as it is of anecdotal crap.

Daddy07
08-24-13, 06:52
I find that the post above is so ignorant of reality, so stupid in its content and so unbelievable that I hope any Indian members here will correct the OP. As a visitor on many occasions to that country I find the catalogue of criticisms appears to describe an India I do not recognise so full as it is of anecdotal crap.Well Scorchin, my indignant friend, instead of flaming me like an ignorant intolerant ass, why don't you simply point out to me where I'm wrong? I admittedly have never been to India so consequently have no personal knowledge, and certainly could be wrong, but I merely stated the substance of what I've read about and been told by natives of India. If anyone is racist it is they, not me for it is not me who is making the claims.

So yes, I plead guilty for being ignorant of the realities of India. That should have been obvious to you without saying. If you know so much about the subject as you imply, why don't you correct me with facts and accurate information then instead of spouting off like an angry jerk? I also sincerely invite other Indian natives to do so.

Incidentally, did you familiarize yourself with the context of my post before you began to foam at the mouth? If so, you clearly would have discovered that there was no racist motivation whatsoever.

Scorchin
08-24-13, 06:57
So yes, I plead guilty for being ignorant of the realities of India.Given your self confessed ignorance of the realities of India I suggest that any further contribution by you on the subject be regarded as ignorant ramblings.

Daddy07
08-24-13, 06:59
Given your self confessed ignorance of the realities of India I suggest that any further contribution by you on the subject be regarded as ignorant ramblings.Wipe the foam off your lip, asshole!

GamIndia
08-24-13, 07:18
Extremely for dropping into a conversation. That seems absolutely useless.

I guess the purpose of this site to share our sexcapades and may be connect with each other if we happen to in the same place. For example I met a member from this site in Phuket and we partied together for 2 nights and had a great time. Not bothering about what nationalities we belong to.

Gentlemen, this is not a site to boast about our egos and call names to fellow members.

I hope that mongers will maintain some decorum and ethics and stick to the purpose rather than rant about non-issues.

Scorchin
08-24-13, 07:18
Wipe the foam off your lip, asshole!That you feel it necessary you have to resort to personal insults instead of perhaps apologising for your initial rant.

Syzygies
08-24-13, 08:15
from what i have read about india by indian authors, and what several indians have told me about the country and the people, i don't think i even want to visit the place, much less live there. the story i get is that india is a cesspool of corruption at every level; one has to pay bribes to get anything done; lying and cheating is epidemic; the environment is filthy; superstition is rampant; the people hate each other; women risk being gang raped on busses and trains in broad daylight, and on and on. just doesn't seem like a fun place to me.

you describe india as your former country and i'm reading into that that you are mighty glad to be out of there. maybe it is your years away from india and not so much your age that has mellowed you.its unfortunate that it is politically incorrect to say anything negative about another culture, and you automatically get the "racist" label. of course if you criticised your own country or thailand, the racist label might not be brought out.

at least some of us are understanding that people do not visit foreign counties if so many of the things we are hearing from others (including the natives of that country) are giving a negative impression, and of course the press does too. i have never visited india either and nothing has particularly attracted me to go there. its not top of my list, if you like. even though i have heard they have a lot of hookers (like thailand) , i am not assuming that is correct and don't go there for mongering lol (i'm just stirring).

an attractive blonde female friend of mine was enthused enough to go on holiday to india. unfortunately i don't remember a lot of the positive things she had to say about her trip. the only think that i remember was her saying she had a lot of hassles due to the different culture in the way men treat women. men were hassling her constantly, as though this was the local sport. she complained that in crowded places it was very hard to avoid being touched up, pinched on the bottom, etc. so presumably western women are considered fair game.

in the end often i think we are choosing to visit countries with cultures not too dissimilar to what we are used to. if another country has many strange behaviours, it tends to put people off visiting. whether its unfair to judge the whole country due to some reported bad experiences or not, it is understandable, and not "racist" is my opinion. i have many good buddies that i work with, that are indian. to be racist is more so to have a profound dislike of every single person automatically, without judging the individual, just because they come from some ethnic background. i have no problem with people of any race or colour, if they meet with my standards. so my standards for liking a person have nothing to do with colour, but honesty, fairness and not hassling others is a good start. i really like pretty black girls too. i could even have a black girlfriend no problem, if her style was compatible with mine.

we all have a right to dislike others, and i also have a lot of generalised negative views on girls from my own country. i often say i am allergic to them. in general, i only like foreign girls. sort of a "racist" against my own culture of origin. lol. a very non-typical girl from my country could be just fine. you never know. however i have a thai gf now, and has been much more satisfactory than my farang ex-wife, even is sex is not quite frequent enough.

it would be nice if people could handle negative comments more sensibly and rationally. its too easy just to stick on the "racist" label.

PinkPearl
08-24-13, 08:51
from what i have read about india by indian authors, and what several indians have told me about the country and the people, i don't think i even want to visit the place, much less live there. the story i get is that india is a cesspool of corruption at every level; one has to pay bribes to get anything done; lying and cheating is epidemic; the environment is filthy; superstition is rampant; the people hate each other; women risk being gang raped on busses and trains in broad daylight, and on and on. just doesn't seem like a fun place to me.interesting comment. i could see thailand as being much the same as everything you said about india. for just one example this recent news item:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/662860-nana-police-officers-on-the-run-after-abducting-italian-tourists-and-demanding-bt2m-ransom/page-6

i happened to be reading the following last night, flirting with the notion of spending some months in india:

http://wikitravel.org/en/india

i liked the possibility of obtaining a 10 year tourist visa, but some of the other things were not too appetizing.

quite a few indians post here & i wonder what attracts them to thailand for mongering. you'ld think it would be less expensive in their homeland.

in singapore i see them & they seem quite taken with hefty ladies from india (or sri lanka perhaps) in unflattering traditional gear & face. i'd rate them no higher than 5 out of 10 & wouldn't go with them if they paid me. i guess it is the price that attracts them and or the possibility of rejection with others like prc & thai.

no doubt india has beautiful women, like every nation does. are they out of the price range for cheap charlies coming to los, even with airfare & hotel costs factored in? or do indians find it necessary to avoid playing in their own back yard for the sake of privacy?

CorporateMalaya
08-24-13, 10:31
It will be my first time in BKK. I will be in BKK on Aug 28 for about a week. I would definitely appreciate any company. Your first beer is on me. It will be my pleasure.You need to post this in the trip announcement section, and BTW welcome to BKK brother.

CorporateMalaya
08-24-13, 10:43
The last 4 pages of the Bangkok forum have been etched with so much talk and cross talk of: Indian behavior in Thailand, Indians in India, How we like our Cappucino's and to tuck your shirt or not. Though interesting, my fellows Syzgies, Scorchin, Daddy07, Rjss, Bionicman, Duniawala and RBDave, let us give this a break and return to what we do best. Talk about our experiences and late night adventures.

I will start by posting some pics of a chick I got from one of the Rainbows in Nana. On the later side of 20, but gave me the best rim job in a year. Enjoy folks!

Goatscrot
08-24-13, 19:09
The last 4 pages of the Bangkok forum have been etched with so much talk and cross talk of: Indian behavior in Thailand, Indians in India, How we like our Cappucino's and to tuck your shirt or not. Though interesting, my fellows Syzgies, Scorchin, Daddy07, Rjss, Bionicman, Duniawala and RBDave, let us give this a break and return to what we do best. Talk about our experiences and late night adventures.

I will start by posting some pics of a chick I got from one of the Rainbows in Nana. On the later side of 20, but gave me the best rim job in a year. Enjoy folks!A good rim job is a wonderful thing. Mien of Snow White (ex Tom of Tulip) , gives the best rim job in BKK. Attaches herself to your a* like a sea lamprey.

LittleBigMan
08-24-13, 19:21
Given your self confessed ignorance of the realities of India I suggest that any further contribution by you on the subject be regarded as ignorant ramblings.I'm not defending the man, because he has made it very cleared that he doesn't need defending. I too would be called ignorant of the subject of culture of India. But to be honest in the past and present when you read and learn about India is basically as Daddy07 say, maybe the blame should laid with the media and even the many Indian posters here who themselves have posted so many negative views of India, just look at how this conversation all started and if you look back it was Daddy07, that defended the Indians that got stuck with the bill, was it not a Indian who did the stifing regardless of his motive?

What is surprising is in all the years I have never seen so many Indian mongers on this board? Welcome! The economy is booming in India by the looks of the current membership! I grew up being discriminated against and I can tell you story for story about how racist people are as far back as having to use a separate bathroom or not being able to eat in a restaurant, I've served time in prison and guess what that itself is one of the most racist institution you will find anywhere? Even today as I live in Thailand, I feel out of place at many bars, go go's and clubs because I'm Asian, the worse is I even get discriminated by the Thais which I live among them.

In the years being on this board I've stood up for many of the things that are ignorantly said about Asians particularly about Japanese which I am not, but never heard a word from any Indians defending racist comments about any other race? In the end, we are all racist one way or another but if you must defend racism do it consistently and not just for your own race!

Racist comments are tough to hear or handle but it doesn't mean we should change the subject just because it is a sex forum, openless is good now teach us ignorant people what is Indian all about because up to now I've haven't heard anything here that would spark my interest to visit not even the medical care that is suppose to be better and cheaper will get me there?

I would like to learn more?

There is a saying " sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you "

LBM

Run Mann
08-24-13, 20:03
Extremely for dropping into a conversation. That seems absolutely useless.

I guess the purpose of this site to share our sexcapades and may be connect with each other if we happen to in the same place. For example I met a member from this site in Phuket and we partied together for 2 nights and had a great time. Not bothering about what nationalities we belong to.

Gentlemen, this is not a site to boast about our egos and call names to fellow members.

I hope that mongers will maintain some decorum and ethics and stick to the purpose rather than rant about non-issues.Keep hoping Gam, or as Jesse said keep hope alive. This site is about everything with very few off limit subjects especially since the decreased moderation by management. There's even a thread for fighting which some members may not know about but may want to use.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2586-Thailand-Fight-Club

Tony Hoeprano
08-24-13, 21:32
A good rim job is a wonderful thing. Mien of Snow White (ex Tom of Tulip) , gives the best rim job in BKK. Attaches herself to your a* like a sea lamprey.In contrast to a poorly done rim job? How do you differentiate between a great one and one where the girl does a crappy job? (no pun intended) Unike getting a BJ, they all feel the same to me.

LittleBigMan
08-25-13, 00:16
In contrast to a poorly done rim job? How do you differentiate between a great one and one where the girl does a crappy job? (no pun intended) Unike getting a BJ, they all feel the same to me.No for sure as least to me it isn't the same? I lke going from a deep BBBJ, to a rim job, which usually deep BBBJ, licking of the balls all the way down to you know what. From time to time it is okay but really not my thing as far as I'm concern they can stop at the balls and keep licking and sucking.

I like to DFK, some guys wouldn't kiss a girl after giving them a BJ, I don't know why it is your dick clean or uncleaned, but kissing after she rims me I have my limits sometimes? The total package is when they BBBJ, rim you and suck you toes too now that is a package and although I haven't been there in a long long time Singapore girls are the best for this although I had a Hong Kong girl come pretty close.

LBM

Member #4698
08-25-13, 01:05
The total package is when they BBBJ, rim you and suck you toes too now that is a package and although I haven't been there in a long long time Singapore girls are the best for this although I had a Hong Kong girl come pretty close.I like Geylang too, but I think Macau is the place to go for the total package; rim job, fire and ice, cat licking, and dfk. That said, the best/deepest/longest rim job I ever had was in good ol' Bangkok at Mango Massage courtesy of Por. Give her a try.

Goatscrot
08-25-13, 02:43
In contrast to a poorly done rim job? How do you differentiate between a great one and one where the girl does a crappy job? (no pun intended) Unike getting a BJ, they all feel the same to me.What she does, how she does it, and the gusto with which she goes about the task. They don't feel the same to me.

LittleBigMan
08-25-13, 07:54
I like Geylang too, but I think Macau is the place to go for the total package; rim job, fire and ice, cat licking, and dfk. That said, the best/deepest/longest rim job I ever had was in good ol' Bangkok at Mango Massage courtesy of Por. Give her a try.Oh yea the fire and Ice treatment? It has been a while but never could enjoy it like the rimming once in while but I just can't get into someone rimming my ass? Same thing with the fire and ice to me nothing like a good old fashion long deep slow BJ.

It has also been a while since I have been to Macau, last time was before China took back the place. I remember several visits to a place called China City not sure if it is still there? Use to get Russians girls there in the 90's but never was into them either.

LBM

MTough12
08-25-13, 09:46
Can anyone tell me the best spots to go to on RCA.

CorporateMalaya
08-25-13, 10:27
A good rim job is a wonderful thing. Mien of Snow White (ex Tom of Tulip) , gives the best rim job in BKK. Attaches herself to your a* like a sea lamprey.Is she still there, do they have farang surcharge

DaniChan007
08-25-13, 10:38
I just posted in the Pattaya thread, but I want to also post here & say how much this thread helped me in preparing for my 3 days in Bangkok. 3 days is a really short time to do real touristy stuff & see Bangkok's P4P scene.

I've saved all of the useful reports into one PDF on my iPad and will be doing a lot of studying on the plane.

Thanks a lot to the contributors. If anyone wants to join me on my first adventure in Bangkok, I'll be more than happy to buy you a couple of beers when we go out. I'm staying at the Tune Hotel Asoke on Soi 14 in Sukhumvit.

BionicMan
08-25-13, 10:56
I like to DFK, some guys wouldn't kiss a girl after giving them a BJ, I don't know why it is your dick clean or uncleaned, but kissing after she rims me I have my limits sometimes?

LBMIf my dick and rim area is good enough for her to lick, why shouldn't it be good for me to DFK her after her service?

I don't have a problem to DFK after a CIM (when the girl doesn't run to the bathroom)

Member #4387
08-25-13, 11:21
Can anyone tell me the best spots to go to on RCA.Since this is a question rarerly asked inside here I will not only ask you to RTFF but instead help you out as it can be hard to find info here in the ISG regarding your request. I go RCA area mostly when I hang around my regular normal non P4P "crowd" of girls. Sometimes I even meet a few new ones. Here you will not find the typical freelancing girl as in more typical monger nightclubs. You will probably hear it is waste of time to go RCA if you don't speak Thai and except from the fact it is allways an advantage to speak the country of visits language english will work out just fine. In RCA you run into a younger BKK crowd with very few older mongerers.

Route66, Cosmic Cafe, LED, Slim&Fix and Taksura are places in RCA worth trying. Route66 and LED are typical dress to impress places but if you are able to hit up women in your own country / city you can also do it here. Crowd mostly 20. 40yrs. Taksura is a student hangout kind of place (here the word is out some look for some quick cash at times?) and ofcourse a tad younger crowd.

I will also recomend DEMO (Suk Soi 55) as it is a high roler nightclub. The eyecandy is spectacular, someone will ofcourse disagree and state it is nothing special but to each his own. Just try I have had a blast in all the mentioned places in the passed. AND no need to be tight on the baht atleast not in DEMO / LED. Then you probably better off not going.

I have not been to all the RCA hangouts as it is many but I have in the passed been to the few mentioned in my report. Happy hunting.

Syzygies
08-25-13, 12:43
No for sure as least to me it isn't the same? I lke going from a deep BBBJ, to a rim job, which usually deep BBBJ, licking of the balls all the way down to you know what. From time to time it is okay but really not my thing as far as I'm concern they can stop at the balls and keep licking and sucking.

I like to DFK, some guys wouldn't kiss a girl after giving them a BJ, I don't know why it is your dick clean or uncleaned, but kissing after she rims me I have my limits sometimes? The total package is when they BBBJ, rim you and suck you toes too now that is a package and although I haven't been there in a long long time Singapore girls are the best for this although I had a Hong Kong girl come pretty close.

LBMLBM,

Your post seems a little confused. You don't understand why a guy would avoid kissing after BBBJ but are reticent after rimming. If your arse is dirty we can understand that you don't want the rimming and don't want kiss after. Same applies to guys with dirty dicks. I believe I have cleaned myself thoroughly so have no problem with any of these things. Would be very hypocritical for me to want a girl to kiss, suck and lick various things and then for me not to want to kiss her afterwards.

I have read medical things that suggest an a-hole (clean) , on the outside, may well have far less bacteria than a mouth. Not sure if its really true or not.

This bit is not directed at you, LBM, its more general:

For any guys who want to CIM, don't be a hypocrite, DFK her afterwards! If you want her to swallow, offer to swallow some yourself too! LOL If you don't like to, then its easy to accept that she might not like to either, unless a good bonus is involved.

IMHO there is little point in trying to get girls to do what they don't like, or at least offer gladly. There are plenty of A+ girls who really dislike it and only do it for purpose of getting more customers. I usually will not do it with these girls unless they specifically offer it without being prompted. E. G. June (SW) seems more happy to offer it these days. Probably has got used to it now. YMMV.

AssLover945
08-25-13, 15:09
I like Geylang too, but I think Macau is the place to go for the total package; rim job, fire and ice, cat licking, and dfk. That said, the best/deepest/longest rim job I ever had was in good ol' Bangkok at Mango Massage courtesy of Por. Give her a try.Though on the older side age wise. She still provides one of the best services in Mango and is on par with Ice and Bo (who has now left mango). Indeed Por's rimjob is one of best I have ever had. Must try if you are into it.

AssLover945
08-25-13, 15:21
I have this regular provider who no longer works. She was from Mango and is currently with her Boyfriend, but She still has her list to whom she sneaks out once in a while. Infact she engages me for the event and I being a big fan of her ass usually do not turn down. Recently after the 1st round, I was just lying next to her and giving my little bro a short rest before going for round 2. While we were talking, she took out some lottery tickets from her wallet and started checking for the winning numbers from a website (via her smartphone). After about 5 mins and a few failed lottery tickets she started complaining on the lack of luck on her side. By now my little bro was up and ready for round 2. I asked her to keenl on bed in doggy style so that I could do her from behind, but before going to thrust my bro, I decided to have a DATY and while I got busy, she was giving out low purring noise intermittently showing that I was doing it right, But, little did I realise that she was still checking her lottery tickets, yes she had bought a bunch of them it seems, and then out of no where she shouted as if I had bitten her clitoris and was literally shocked at her loud noise, because it might alert my neighbors. But she had won 2000 Bahts! LOL and she was so excited that she began texting her friends and updating her FB through her phone. I got back to my DATY all the while smiling in disbelief. LOL happens only in the LOS.

Goatscrot
08-25-13, 19:17
Is she still there, do they have farang surchargeYep and nope!

Yoyohpw97
08-25-13, 19:36
Hi guys,

Does anybody have any feedback on Pear from Long Gun, quite buxom girl on her late 20's, big butt, wide hip and decent pair of tits, quite fun to hangout with.

Didn't find anything in previous post and nothing came up for the various search tentative.

Cheers

Rjsss212
08-25-13, 20:07
LBM,

Your post seems a little confused. You don't understand why a guy would avoid kissing after BBBJ but are reticent after rimming. If your arse is dirty we can understand that you don't want the rimming.Because he no like. Simple as that. He's paying.


Would be very hypocritical for me to want a girl to kiss, suck and lick various things and then for me not to want to kiss her afterwards.Hypocritical is a word for your girlfriend, not your hooker. You pay for what you want, not what she wants.


For any guys who want to CIM, don't be a hypocrite, DFK her afterwards! If you want her to swallow, offer to swallow some yourself too! LOL If you don't like to, then its easy to accept that she might not like to either, unless a good bonus is involved.Nonsense! Last thing I want is to taste my own cum.


LOL If you don't like to, then its easy to accept that she might not like to either, unless a good bonus is involved.Finally! That's the nature of the 'relationship'. You pay, she performs. Sounds like you are starting to fall for these girls in general and give them too much 'fairness'.

That's why she's there and she knows it as well.


IMHO there is little point in trying to get girls to do what they don't like, or at least offer gladly. There are plenty of A+ girls who really dislike it and only do it for purpose of getting more customers.That's fine. Its all an act anyway. The better the actress the better the expeience.

Many are really hot but the phrase' starfish' comes to mind. You are paying for the whole experience, not just looks. If she can't fake it to your satisfaction then throw her back.

If you don't believe it then next time you bar fine a girl tell her you really don't feel like paying that nite but would like her to spend the nite anyway, 'if she likes' and see how many takers you get.

Dirtdog
08-25-13, 20:28
I am just amazed by so many responses of the fellow mongers. I appreciate all the inputs.

Hopefully I will have a great experience. This will be my first time in BKK and the thread is so huge that I am lost about what information I need. But I will do my home work. If the girls speak any english, they would come to know that I am an american by my accent. I also know very little hindi.

I think I am going to stay with jeans and some nice t shirts untucked. If I wear any formal shirt then offcourse it goes tucked. I will get some nice shoes preferably black formals.

Money is already there. Now I need to chose a great hotel chica friendly preferably 5 star near to the mongering areas.

I will definitely now visit rainbow just to compete with fellow japanese folks. LOL. I do love asian japanese and korean women.

Another way to beat the discrimination is to monger with a fellow gringo or a japanese. Too bad my buddy gringos here in USA can't make it. If I knew this earlier, I would have definitely convinced one or two to join me.

My next homework would be to study some of the Thailand scams just for precaution. Offcourse no casino, drugs, threesome or booze to stupor.No booze, casinos or threesomes! Sure buddy, I will believe you. Have a good time, take your camera. Thailand is much better then Costa Rica so I am sure you will have fun.

I am only planning on Costa Rica for Halloween because it is closer.

LittleBigMan
08-25-13, 22:20
LBM,

Your post seems a little confused. You don't understand why a guy would avoid kissing after BBBJ but are reticent after rimming. If your arse is dirty we can understand that you don't want the rimming and don't want kiss after. Same applies to guys with dirty dicks. I believe I have cleaned myself thoroughly so have no problem with any of these things. Would be very hypocritical for me to want a girl to kiss, suck and lick various things and then for me not to want to kiss her afterwards.

I have read medical things that suggest an a-hole (clean) , on the outside, may well have far less bacteria than a mouth. Not sure if its really true or not.

This bit is not directed at you, LBM, its more general:

For any guys who want to CIM, don't be a hypocrite, DFK her afterwards! If you want her to swallow, offer to swallow some yourself too! LOL If you don't like to, then its easy to accept that she might not like to either, unless a good bonus is involved.

IMHO there is little point in trying to get girls to do what they don't like, or at least offer gladly. There are plenty of A+ girls who really dislike it and only do it for purpose of getting more customers. I usually will not do it with these girls unless they specifically offer it without being prompted. E. G. June (SW) seems more happy to offer it these days. Probably has got used to it now. YMMV.Everyone has their own limits regardless of all the science that might be involed, I clean myself but I guess just don't feel the same about my ass-so as you?

LBM

Member #4698
08-25-13, 22:34
Last thing I want is to taste my own cum.I have to admit, I have never tasted my own cum or anyone else's for that matter. First, I prefer to cum in a vagina. Call me old fashion. Second, almost all the girls I have had carnal knowledge with and who received a load of my seed in their mouths always went to the bathroom to spit, rinse and clean up before moving back into DFK mode. I always leave a bottle of Listerine in the bathroom so everybody can be clean and fresh before and after, including me. I hear that if you include Mango or Pineapple juice in your daily diet, your cum will be sweeter. Uhm.


I clean myself but I guess just don't feel the same about my ass-so as you?
LBM

Haven't you ever been tempted to lick a beautiful girls ass? I know I have.

LittleBigMan
08-25-13, 23:14
I have to admit, I have never tasted my own cum or anyone else's for that matter. First, I prefer to cum in a vagina. Call me old fashion. Second, almost all the girls I have had carnal knowledge with and who received a load of my seed in their mouths always went to the bathroom to spit, rinse and clean up before moving back into DFK mode. I always leave a bottle of Listerine in the bathroom so everybody can be clean and fresh before and after, including me. I hear that if you include Mango or Pineapple juice in your daily diet, your cum will be sweeter. Uhm.

Haven't you ever been tempted to lick a beautiful girls ass? I know I have.No one said or at least I'm saying go back and read my opinion? I licked my share of women ass, I'm just not into kissing a girl that has just lick my ass! Not to say I haven't! Which I have depending on my mooded? Now as far as this is concern I'm leaving my ass out of this conversation okay.

LBM

Juicyclamlover
08-25-13, 23:20
Since this is a question rarerly asked inside here I will not only ask you to RTFF but instead help you out as it can be hard to find info here in the ISG regarding your request. I go RCA area mostly when I hang around my regular normal non P4P "crowd" of girls. Sometimes I even meet a few new ones. Here you will not find the typical freelancing girl as in more typical monger nightclubs. You will probably hear it is waste of time to go RCA if you don't speak Thai and except from the fact it is allways an advantage to speak the country of visits language english will work out just fine. In RCA you run into a younger BKK crowd with very few older mongerers.

Route66, Cosmic Cafe, LED, Slim&Fix and Taksura are places in RCA worth trying. Route66 and LED are typical dress to impress places but if you are able to hit up women in your own country / city you can also do it here. Crowd mostly 20. 40yrs. Taksura is a student hangout kind of place (here the word is out some look for some quick cash at times?) and ofcourse a tad younger crowd.

I will also recomend DEMO (Suk Soi 55) as it is a high roler nightclub. The eyecandy is spectacular, someone will ofcourse disagree and state it is nothing special but to each his own. Just try I have had a blast in all the mentioned places in the passed. AND no need to be tight on the baht atleast not in DEMO / LED. Then you probably better off not going.

I have not been to all the RCA hangouts as it is many but I have in the passed been to the few mentioned in my report. Happy hunting.A good list of places at RCA, I like the Cosmic Cafe and prefer the live music places and it makes a nice change from the usual haunts and there is a plenty to be had especially if you can speak some Thai but if you don't alot of Thai's who hang here do speak some English.

Luvpuss
08-25-13, 23:30
Been busy in town and having a great time. I started taking Testosterone supplements about a month ago. My Dick is harder even more now.

Lollipop: Met Noi. Age 30 with some curves. I always ask for the back booth here as it is private with a door that locks. Full GFE with BBBJ and FS. The music they pump into the room has a great beat and the rhythm of it is nice for fucking. I love this place. 1100 B for FS.

SOL: Stinky and smelly and sticky as usual. A few cute girls working but not that cute. Grabbed one age 25. BBBJ on the stool in the toilet. I started to stick my finger in her pussy an she said,"blood now". Not a problem. The BBBJCIM was nice. 700 B.

Som's Haven: I don't like this place. I have been there twice and the girls seem to have attitude. She did the job but that is about it. 700 B for BBBJ. I won't go back.

Dr. BJ: The same girls always seem to be here. That is fine as they are pros and always seem to do a nice job. The place was packed with 3 other dudes laughing and sucking sounds. Picked Fon or Fom age 30. Nice job with BBBJCIM. 700 B.

Tulip's: My favorite place in BKK. Paid for the 1 hour. I always get ass rim, full GFE with anal if I want. Picked Miss N. Super nice girl. BBBJ, kissing and camel sliding in shower. She did everything I asked, full GFE. I gave her 2K.

Soi 11 MP's: I always seem to have good luck here and did again on this trip. The girls will try to hit you for 2K or more for FS. Just stand your ground and say no. 1500 is the max you should pay in this area.

That is it for now. Got to get ready for more debauchery. Hope you all are having fun out there.

Streetwalker7
08-26-13, 03:06
Because he no like. Simple as that. He's paying.

Hypocritical is a word for your girlfriend, not your hooker. You pay for what you want, not what she wants.

Nonsense! Last thing I want is to taste my own cum.

Finally! That's the nature of the 'relationship'. You pay, she performs. Sounds like you are starting to fall for these girls in general and give them too much 'fairness'.

That's why she's there and she knows it as well.

That's fine. Its all an act anyway. The better the actress the better the expeience.

Many are really hot but the phrase' starfish' comes to mind. You are paying for the whole experience, not just looks. If she can't fake it to your satisfaction then throw her back.

If you don't believe it then next time you bar fine a girl tell her you really don't feel like paying that nite but would like her to spend the nite anyway, 'if she likes' and see how many takers you get.My new hero!

Streetwalker7
08-26-13, 04:54
Rainbow 2. I was sitting in the bleachers when I saw a guy prolly Filipino (-matches his description on sort of Indian Chinese looking) sit at the stage. He stood out as he immediately turned his attention to the thickest leggs Rainbow2 has. Didn't take long, he barifned her and off they went.

Here's a report in which I may force myself to read the whole thing. A report where I know what girl looks like.

Very noticeable when a guy goes to a Rainbow and picks the biggest one there. People watching is awesome at the agogos-can't get enough.

Syzygies
08-26-13, 07:55
Nonsense! Last thing I want is to taste my own cum.Yeh right. The chances are, she doesn't like it either. Hence many girls don't do that. Others do it for extra money (outside Thailand). My point is just that you cannot expect every girl to like it or even to do it for regular money. Same with Anal, rimming, etc.

A starfish is a girl who doesn't enjoy anything much and is not an actress. Other are obviously just going through the motions. Not every girl can be a top convincing actress.

I think most experienced mongers start to get a fair idea of when the girl is not having a good time. For some of us weirdos, the girl showing signs of disinterest or discomfort is definitely a big turn-off, whether she is an actress or not. We like a realistic GFE, where the acting is undetectable. I have no interest in making girls do something she doesn't like to do, unless she secretly does actually like it.

It is amazing some times that girls, who don't normally do something, first time with customer, but are suddenly very okay with it once they get used to the customer, e. G. I have heard of girls requiring CBJ that are giving me BBBJ, no problem.

There are girls protesting they don't want DATY, but after a little try, suddenly like it a lot. Whoops, she wasn't planning to get turned on!

YMMV is very true.

Syzygies
08-26-13, 08:05
That is it for now. Got to get ready for more debauchery. Hope you all are having fun out there.Good to see to a report where you are enjoying some places of debauchery. Keep up the positive oriented reports!

BBBJ in the SOL toilet? Are you shy? LOL.

Does the testosterone make your hair fall out quicker? I suppose would make little difference if the hair is long gone already?

Mr skin doctor (female) suggested I should take Propecia to stop the hair thinning patch, but I said that I was too scared it would stuff up my sex drive. I guess taking Testosterone would sort of be the opposite.

Streetwalker7
08-26-13, 17:37
Ogling a star at Rainbow 4 on stage. A girl I'm friendly with sits nearby and I jokinglly offered her and the star 1500 for short-time, knowingly both would just laugh. LOL. I'm pretty sure the girl not on stage accepted- I pretended not to hear as I am not interested in her naked. Ok look better than avg body but I'm just not interested. She isn't heavily barfinned so 1500 was ok for her. Makes sense to me-I wish more non-stars had her attitude. I'm sure the girl s leave a ton of baht on the table by demanding star money for avg quality girl.

I know I would barfine more if I didn't have to pay avg girl star money!

Uncle Volodya
08-26-13, 18:09
Rainbow 2. I was sitting in the bleachers when I saw a guy prolly Filipino (-matches his description on sort of Indian Chinese looking) sit at the stage. He stood out as he immediately turned his attention to the thickest leggs Rainbow2 has. Didn't take long, he barifned her and off they went.

Here's a report in which I may force myself to read the whole thing. A report where I know what girl looks like.

Very noticeable when a guy goes to a Rainbow and picks the biggest one there. People watching is awesome at the agogos-can't get enough.TOO GOOD!

I knew good old Kumbu would go back to Rainbow to get some of that "leg meat" he craves so much.

I hope it worked out with him as that chick seemed rather mercenary from his reports.

In any case, I can't wait for the report. I'm sure it will be a great read.

Sxxxx
08-26-13, 22:40
Mr skin doctor (female) suggested I should take Propecia to stop the hair thinning patch, but I said that I was too scared it would stuff up my sex drive. I guess taking Testosterone would sort of be the opposite.Propecia over long term costs thousands, but I have done just that. Before propecia lots of hair in comb, balding approaching at a fairly rapid approach. Took propecia, noticed two or three months later, no loose hair in comb. Fifteen years down the track, still taking it, still got my hair. Thinning yes, but at a very slow pace. Older brother, everything medical that happens to him, happens to me, about two years later. He is bald as a badger, I am not bald. My conclusion, it did not stop thinning, slowed it down very significantly, but avoided me becoming bald. Eventually I might become bald, but even that is no certainty, cause I will stick with Propecia. Money well spent for someone who does not like ending up bald. Possibly, different results for different people.

Libido reduced yes, but not removed, still capable, and without ever assistance from viagra. Once again might affect different people differently. You could always stop taking it, if that happened. Side effects, virtually non existent in my case.

Urologist reckons it masks PSA tests and might not get full and correct numbers if your taking propecia. Not so, in my case. Prostate cancer depends almost entirely on its daily diet of testosterone. One way of controlling prostate cancer is hormone therapy which cuts out the production of testosterone, which of course says goodbye to sex. Too much testosterone prostate cancer risk, too little and no sex drive. I am living proof of all that I write here. Your getting it from the horses mouth, so to speak.

In my case propecia was a win, in yours, you will not know until you try it. It won't kill you and you can always stop taking the stuff and await the bald patch. Guys should research "testosterone and prostate cancer'. Testosterone is your friend for sex, your potential enemy for prostate cancer, along with genes factor, of course. Fifty's and overs should have prostate check ups!

OK, so everyone rushes in with their opinions. I am just telling you what happened to me personally over the years, my first hand experience. Different individuals different outcomes, I suspect.

Rjsss212
08-27-13, 02:26
I am just telling you what happened to me personally over the years, my first hand experience. Different individuals different outcomes, I suspect.Nicely done!

Member #4698
08-27-13, 02:26
Been busy in town and having a great time.

Soi 11 MP's: I always seem to have good luck here and did again on this trip. The girls will try to hit you for 2K or more for FS. Just stand your ground and say no. 1500 is the max you should pay in this area.

That is it for now. Got to get ready for more debauchery. Hope you all are having fun out there.You never know when you might spot a gem in one of those small Soi 11 massage shops in the Ambassador arcade. On my last trip I picked up a cute girl on Soi 11. She was on her way to her massage parlor when I ran into her. After some friendly small talk she invited me to come with her to her shop. The place was very small, but clean. Just before the point of no turning back my brain kicked into gear and I realized it would be more fun back at my suite at the Fraser. 2.5 hours more or less. No one was watching the clock. 1500bt plus 400bt (I think) for outcall. J was very sweet and so much fun that I hooked up with her again the next day. Not porn star, but very close to GFE. Nice girl. Yeah, I will be checking this area out again on my next trip. Don't tell anybody.

Wolvenvacht
08-27-13, 07:02
Ogling a star at Rainbow 4 on stage. A girl I'm friendly with sits nearby and I jokinglly offered her and the star 1500 for short-time, knowingly both would just laugh. LOL. I'm pretty sure the girl not on stage accepted- I pretended not to hear as I am not interested in her naked.So, you offer 1500 baht for ST and then when the girl accepts, you reneg on the deal.

Bad bad bad.

Syzygies
08-27-13, 08:13
So, you offer 1500 baht for ST and then when the girl accepts, you reneg on the deal.

Bad bad bad.Haven't you noticed that SW7 (is it Harold?) rarely writes anything that makes sense at all. I only ever agreed just once (which must have been accidental) , then I finally realised it wasn't worth the effort to comment.

Syzygies
08-27-13, 08:29
OK, so everyone rushes in with their opinions. I am just telling you what happened to me personally over the years, my first hand experience. Different individuals different outcomes, I suspect.Thanks for the advice. I may try Propecia, although my hair is thinning fairly slowly, not exactly coming out with the comb. Being tall, the short girls don't usually see the thinning patch on the crown. LOL. Fortunately my quantity of grey is not so bad either. I am lucky that girls often mistakenly think I am much younger than I really am. Having lost 14 Kg. Over 6 months, that helps a lot for sex sessions not to be tiring, as well. No one has to be well over weight. Its an easy decision to cut back the sugar and starchy carbs, and it works. I have changed my eating habits (mostly) so no need to be large again.

I do already have side effects probably from Ro-accutane taken many years ago to treat acne. This causes my skin to have allergic reaction to cold water or cold air. So I have to be a bit wary about various chemicals. However sugar is the biggest "poison" in modern society, due to causing massive health problems.

Dextro Sol
08-27-13, 11:58
Been busy in town and having a great time. I started taking Testosterone supplements about a month ago. My Dick is harder even more now.Is your Testosterone prescripted by a doctor due to tests that show you have to small amount or did you just buy it at a pharmacy in Bangkok?

Do you take it oral or by plaster on your skin?

Sir Lancelot
08-27-13, 16:14
So, you offer 1500 baht for ST and then when the girl accepts, you reneg on the deal.

Bad bad bad.I find it hard to believe. If she really did accept, she'd have got down off stage and perched herself on his lap. She didn't. Also Harold (aka Streetwalker) has freely admitted he can't bar-fine girls for 2000 or less from the Rainbows, so it stretches credibility that a 'star' in his words would agree to go with him for 1500. Maybe she might if it was just before closing time (potential bargains to be had late at night) but Harold has also freely admitted he is a creature of habit and doesn't stay out that late. I agree with you though that it isn't great form from Harold and perhaps symptomatic of why the girls aren't overly enamoured by him.

Muse Fan
08-27-13, 18:20
I've been to Bangkok a few times as well as Pattaya. I noticed if you go with the touts for the ping pong show, they show you a card full of things the girls do. But they usually turn out to be less than exciting and are performed by chubby or older women. Women you may not want to see.

Last time I was in pattay I met a taxi driver that took me to the better sex show. As in better, I mean the girls did pretty much all things from ping pong, egg, fishbowl, blades, and sexual acts. The best part is that all of them were reasonably good looking and more than likely in their 20's. Of course, it was more expensive, but it was worth it in my opinion for the quality.

My question is. Where is the best show in Bangkok? I read quite a few pages back and gave up seeing that there is a LOT of traffic on this thread.

Any suggestions are much appreciated. Thanks fellas.

Syzygies
08-27-13, 18:38
As in better, I mean the girls did pretty much all things from ping pong, egg, fishbowl, blades, and sexual acts. The best part is that all of them were reasonably good looking and more than likely in their 20's. Of course, it was more expensive, but it was worth it in my opinion for the quality.To many of us, the shows you mention are the worst shows available. So I cannot comment on "best" of the worst. These shows originated from Phat Phong upstairs bars, e. G. Queens Castle Group were non-rip-off bars. Most mongers don't use Phat Phong upstairs bars any more (at least we get no reports).

Expensive? Normally you pay for drinks and the shows are free except at rip-off bars. In Cowboy, Suzie Wong as a pathetic selection of some of the worst shows. Better to try Long Gun.

Kumbu
08-27-13, 21:07
Kumbu Sighting! He immediately turned his attention to the thickest leggs Rainbow2 has.Hah! SW7, you really are a people watcher. Sadly, this lucky gentleman was not Kumbu, although it sounds a lot like me. I hope he got a good mouthful of leg flesh from R2, because Kumbu missed that. I've never actually seen anything to my taste in R2, although I suppose there is so much turn over it is still worth a gander once in a while.

My next report, coming soon, is about a brilliant experience in soi cowboy. Working on it, should post in a day or two.

DRRonin
08-28-13, 10:42
To many of us, the shows you mention are the worst shows available. So I cannot comment on "best" of the worst. These shows originated from Phat Phong upstairs bars, e. G. Queens Castle Group were non-rip-off bars. Most mongers don't use Phat Phong upstairs bars any more (at least we get no reports).Ya, does any one ever go to Patpong any more? Stickman has had a few from there who were the subjects of his Girl of the Week and they looked quite ok. In the past 10 years I have gone a single time (about 3 years ago) just to see if things had gotten better. In fact they had gotten much worse. All the bars looked so rundown and so did most of the girls. And it was still just as irritating with the aggressive touts and the market. When I first started coming in the early 90's that was the place to go. Nobody bothered with Soi Cowboy except old ex-pats looking for cheap drinks. Nana Plaza was ok but Patpong ruled. There were loads of sex shows back then. I remember one Thai couple who would go to various bars and have intercourse a few times each night. And this was well before Viagra! I wonder where they are now. Happily married I am sure. Once you see all the various implements from Ping-Pong balls to penmanship that girls are able to utilize with their nether region it gets boring very fast and at least for me generally took me right out of the mood. Nothing like razor blades to do that. The last time I went to one of these shows about 15 yrs back I got wacked right in the head with a flying banana. Once was enough. Never went back.

Syzygies
08-28-13, 11:19
When I first started coming in the early 90's that was the place to go. Nobody bothered with Soi Cowboy except old ex-pats looking for cheap drinks. Nana Plaza was ok but Patpong ruled. There were loads of sex shows back then.In very early 90s, I was being told by experienced Thailand mongers, that Cowboy was the better place to be already, as many Pat Pong places were rip-off oriented.

So I don't agree that nobody bothered with Cowboy, however it was less raunchy than PP at that time. I still remember taking a girl for very LT for 400 Baht (about $20 at the time) and even midday she did not want to leave. However Pat Pong's Kangaroo bar or Rose was recommended as sleaziest for a lunchtime BJ or similar. Some upstairs bars were okay back then. Firecat, Lipstick, Pussy Galore, Queen's Castle, etc. Most good bars were in Pat Pong Soi 1 rather than PP 2.

Several years later Nana became preferred as they started to have girls dancing nude. I used to go Lollipop, Pretty lady, Voodoo, etc. (probably mid 90s) , later still the full nudity disappeared from Nana and re-emerged at Cowboy.

I am preferring Suzie Wong, Doll House, Crazy House due to full nudity girls. Previously Sheba (before it closed) was a lot better than SW, due to staff being more laid back and relaxed. SW staff seem to be a bit pushy these days. Could be because bar is so full they want to turn over customers and make more sales.

DRRonin
08-28-13, 14:16
In very early 90s, I was being told by experienced Thailand mongers, that Cowboy was the better place to be already, as many Pat Pong places were rip-off oriented.Nah, not even close. SC was a joke back then. Very laid back, all small dingy bars with for the most part not very good looking women but admittedly friendlier less mercenary girls. I went looking often enough to feel pretty safe about that. But it was much cheaper and for some mongers that is what really counts. It was basically all older ex-pats that hung out there with sure some more experienced mongers finding their way but very few sex tourists ever found their way there. This was pre-internet and there was very little info out there except about Patpong which made it into all the guide books. Finding Nana Plaza was an accident for me on my first trip only because I had booked myself into the Grace Hotel after I had read an article that mentioned girls could be found there (this was pre-Arab days) and walked down the street one night and lo and behold, gogo bars. But even after finding it and spending time there, I almost always went to Patpong because they had the higher quality girls. My opinion anyways!

Syzygies
08-28-13, 16:15
Nah, not even close. SC was a joke back then. Very laid back, all small dingy bars with for the most part not very good looking women but admittedly friendlier less mercenary girls. I went looking often enough to feel pretty safe about that. !Yes I was there too very early 90s approx. 1991 or 1992 and spent time in Cowboy and Pat Pong. As a newbie at the time, I might not have been as fussy as these days, but Cowboy was certainly okay in some bars. A combination of some expats and some experienced Thai tourists certainly were preferring the more laid back style of Cowboy. Pat Pong was better for the raunchy stuff and the downstairs Pat Pong girls were maybe better looking, but more mercenary than Cowboy and harder to get LT GFE at a good price. I took mostly upstairs PP girls or cowboy girls. Far cheaper.

So cowboy was no joke at all IMHO. I knew the Farang owners of a Cowboy bar that was located approx. right where Baccara is now, as one was a relative of a buddy in my Thai language class, who was quite experienced in Thailand.

Fooolishman
08-28-13, 16:18
The last 4 pages of the Bangkok forum have been etched with so much talk and cross talk of: Indian behavior in Thailand, Indians in India, How we like our Cappucino's and to tuck your shirt or not. Though interesting, my fellows Syzgies, Scorchin, Daddy07, Rjss, Bionicman, Duniawala and RBDave, let us give this a break and return to what we do best. Talk about our experiences and late night adventures.

I will start by posting some pics of a chick I got from one of the Rainbows in Nana. On the later side of 20, but gave me the best rim job in a year. Enjoy folks!Thanks CM,

A good rim job provider is hard to find. If you have contact info, please PM me.

FM

Syzygies
08-28-13, 16:32
I had a great session with a girl called Naam from upstairs at Dollhouse and then she went missing sick. I got blamed. If anyone happens to meet her, please post. I would love to hear if she ever returned. Ex Bill-Board girl. Looks something like this (not quite as good).

http://dripmagazine.com/kc3.jpg

I am sure Pita123 will like her. I am away for a couple more weeks.

Rjsss212
08-28-13, 16:54
Is this her?


I had a great session with a girl called Naam from upstairs at Dollhouse and then she went missing sick. I got blamed. If anyone happens to meet her, please post. I would love to hear if she ever returned. Ex Bill-Board girl. Looks something like this (not quite as good).

http://dripmagazine.com/kc3.jpg

I am sure Pita123 will like her. I am away for a couple more weeks.

DuffyDuck
08-28-13, 16:55
I will be having a very tight connection in BKK and I was wondering if anyone could help with action in the airport area. I am actually landing at 0130 and flying out 1030 next morning. I am sure that there will not be much happening around or in the airport. Probably I will book a room at Novotel or any other hotel near airport.

I am not sure if anyhting is happening in Novotel at the Airport. Do they have a SPA or a massage place that will be open around those hours? Is there anything else in the area?

If anyone could provide any information it would be extremely helpful.

Paul Kausch
08-28-13, 17:15
I will be having a very tight connection in BKK and I was wondering if anyone could help with action in the airport area.

If anyone could provide any information it would be extremely helpful.Been in your situation in the past. I'd have escorts come to my room. In my opinion, if you touchdown at 1:30 it will take too long to get out of the airport and into the monger areas to be worth it.

Traveler1234
08-28-13, 17:32
Been in your situation in the past. I'd have escorts come to my room. In my opinion, if you touchdown at 1:30 it will take too long to get out of the airport and into the monger areas to be worth it.

Besides escort service option, if OP decides to book nearby hotel, Novotel or even Raddison on Rama IX, see if EZ [24/7 service] or Annies will provide outcall. You will have to pay surcharge for drive out but see what they say. And confirm exactly how many pops, hours, etc.

Other option is to troll Nana Parking lot, get 1-2 hrs of action before heading back to airport.

Syzygies
08-28-13, 17:49
I will be having a very tight connection in BKK and I was wondering if anyone could help with action in the airport area. I am actually landing at 0130 and flying out 1030 next morning. I am sure that there will not be much happening around or in the airport. Probably I will book a room at Novotel or any other hotel near airport.Several Cowboy bars are closing at 3:00 AM so its possible you could make it there shortly before closing but would be tough to pick out someone if you don't know the girls already. I have showed up there very late myself. So after that its mainly street walkers as others mentioned or at Climax disco, for example, or perhaps at Thermae. Not sure what time it closes these days. Escort may be possible (I don't use them). I don't like to receive a girl that I haven't checked out first.

I don't suppose there is any action near airport at that hour. There are Karaoke/Massage clubs on Srinakarin Road close to airport but I haven't tried and expect they would be closed.

BionicMan
08-28-13, 17:55
I will be having a very tight connection in BKK and I was wondering if anyone could help with action in the airport area. I am actually landing at 0130 and flying out 1030 next morning. I am sure that there will not be much happening around or in the airport.

If anyone could provide any information it would be extremely helpful.If you land 01. 30am you are very thight or, better, arriving at an odd hour.
account to be at the room at Novotel airport not before an hour as the shuttle to the hotel might not be promptly available.

A MP can send you a girl, but it is quite late as they finish around midnight if they are taken and till 2. 30 is a long waiting time even if accounting for transportation. Will she be awake and willing to perform?

BionicMan
08-28-13, 17:58
Other option is to troll Nana Parking lot, get 1-2 hrs of action before heading back to airport.My understanding is that NP offers nearly 24/7.

DuffyDuck
08-28-13, 18:53
Thank you all for your posts, now I have a better idea of the real options available, probably I will call any MP ask them if they could provide any outcall service at that time, otherwise I will opt for an escort service. Thanks againg!

Syzygies
08-29-13, 04:29
Is this her?You don't say if name is Naam and from where.

Very nice indeed (face looks somewhat like my fillipino ex GF) , but no, Naam is quite skinny, smaller tits, and nearly black hair and looks closer to the pic I gave. As was just 1st time with Naam, I stupidly neglected to collect the phone number, assuming I would see her another day.

Rjsss212
08-29-13, 13:01
Sorry, I thought there were some facial similarities.

I never ask their name unless they ask mine which they rarely do as it seems as unimportant to them as it is to me and I then forget it instantly. If, at the end of our time together it seems she has some interest in seeing me again then I try and be polite and have them write their name and number which then goes in a pile and then left for the maid when I leave. I rarely repeat.

Pulled her from the 3rd floor of Nana from the bar next to the bar with the hot tub. Vegas maybe.


You don't say if name is Naam and from where.

Very nice indeed (face looks somewhat like my fillipino ex GF) , but no, Naam is quite skinny, smaller tits, and nearly black hair and looks closer to the pic I gave. As was just 1st time with Naam, I stupidly neglected to collect the phone number, assuming I would see her another day.

Rick Rock
08-29-13, 15:09
Not sure how the rest of the community feels about it, but I think there should be a separate thread for "Stories;" stories being exploits where the name of the gal is not revealed. Personally, I find these long exegeses to be entertaining, but would rather see them in another context. I think it is great that dudes want to have their experiences validated, but in there is a place for this and IMHO the Bangkok Forum and especially the MP forums are not the place. These forums are for us to share information on gals and ask questions, not to revel in our exploits while in one way thumbing our noses at the other posters.

Good gals will get busy whether you share the info or not. Good for them. A quick shower and she is as good as new.

Another thread will give guys who want to do this an outlet and save time for those of us who don't want to wade through posts on how great a gal is, only to be disappointed that the dude writing it thinks that sharing the name is a problem.

Thoughts?I think reviews of shops and ladies that don't give the name or the lady or the shop or any other way to find it should be totally prohibited. They offer absolutely nothing of value to readers. If guys want to write sex stories they can go to one of the erotic short stories websites. What's the point of it here?

It gets worse. Now we have a guy in the HCMC sections posting reports of $10 blowjob shops, stunners here and there, etc. But he won't tell anyone where they are. He says it's because of recent raids, but when you contact him via PM for more info he says he's happy to take you around and show you places for $100 USD.

Horny Landoora
08-29-13, 15:12
I will be having a very tight connection in BKK and I was wondering if anyone could help with action in the airport area. I am actually landing at 0130 and flying out 1030 next morning. I am sure that there will not be much happening around or in the airport. Probably I will book a room at Novotel or any other hotel near airport.

I am not sure if anyhting is happening in Novotel at the Airport. Do they have a SPA or a massage place that will be open around those hours? Is there anything else in the area?

If anyone could provide any information it would be extremely helpful.Your chances are poor to score in that area. If you are really keen on it either hire an escort or if you want to make a pick just go to Sukhumvit and if you are lucky the flesh market would be open for you to taste the type of meat you desire.

Muse Fan
08-29-13, 18:36
It gets worse. Now we have a guy in the HCMC sections posting reports of $10 blowjob shops, stunners here and there, etc. But he won't tell anyone where they are. He says it's because of recent raids, but when you contact him via PM for more info he says he's happy to take you around and show you places for $100 USD.I've been living in HCMC for 2 years. There are places where you can find blow jobs from okay looking or young women for 10$ and a lot of good places are pmed only. It's true. But it's not cool for someone to charge you for directions. This guy in question obviously just wants your money.

Avoid giving these people business because there are quite a few mongers in HCMC that will share info via pm so long as they feel comfortable about giving it to you.

Just ignore them.

RBDave
08-30-13, 05:25
Guys, I'll be there in Bangkok on a short transit only for about 6 hours. Can you recommend girl friendly 5 start hot near the airport.

Also I don't think I have time to go and pick up girls. Can you recommend a high class escort place. Thai and Europeans.

I did some research online but there are so many places, but I don't think they deliver the same girl on the photo.

Thanks in advanceNot sure I'd call it a 5 star hotel, but there is a Novotel at the Bangkok airport. But for six hours, does it really need to be a five star? If you have the girl meet you when your flight arrives, I doubt the hotel would turn you away. Girl friendly typically means bringing an unregistered guest to your room. If she is with you when you check in, it won't matter.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, why even bother? Between the five star hotel and European Escort prices, why not take care of business at your origin or destination? It will surely cost your upwards of 12, 000 baht all in. Possibly more depending on the hotel price.

Dkooau
08-30-13, 05:45
Thanks for the info. I'll check Novotel. This is the only chance that I would have, because of other constrains. Anyways, I don't really mind the price if I could get top escorts. Do you have any info regarding escorts?


Not sure I'd call it a 5 star hotel, but there is a Novotel at the Bangkok airport. But for six hours, does it really need to be a five star? If you have the girl meet you when your flight arrives, I doubt the hotel would turn you away. Girl friendly typically means bringing an unregistered guest to your room. If she is with you when you check in, it won't matter.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, why even bother? Between the five star hotel and European Escort prices, why not take care of business at your origin or destination? It will surely cost your upwards of 12, 000 baht all in. Possibly more depending on the hotel price.

Zauberfee
08-30-13, 05:53
Do you have any info regarding escorts?There's a thread of it's own about this: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2454-Bangkok-Escort-Agencies

Gajith
08-30-13, 06:00
Aplologies Admin & Members, no other option to contact him

Dkooau
08-30-13, 12:59
Can anyone recommend me a place to get top of the range European Escorts?

Thanks

Scorchin
08-30-13, 14:54
Can anyone recommend me a place to get top of the range European Escorts?

ThanksEurope. Apart from a few on holiday, and probably with a client, I would suggest most escorts would stay in Europe*

Except for the rougher visitors from the FSU.

Moris54
08-30-13, 15:21
Can anyone recommend me a place to get top of the range European Escorts?

ThanksIn my experience the European Escorts are either pretty crappy or extremely overpriced in BKK (and they are defo not worth the price, both looks ad service wise). Best to avoid it all together. Stick with the local flavor.

HectorSanchez
08-30-13, 15:40
Sorry.

I tried calling you but seems you left.

Anyways I hope you had a great time.

Couldn't meet unfortunately. Next time brother.


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Rick Rock
08-30-13, 19:24
Any tips on girls working the Bangkok blow job bar circuit right now that can do deep throat or get face fucked? My favorite at BJs is gone. I'm up for anywhere in the city, SOL, Kangaroos, Som's, Mikes, etc

Gajith
08-30-13, 21:42
Sorry.

I tried calling you but seems you left.

Anyways I hope you had a great time.

Couldn't meet unfortunately. Next time brother.Its Ok, Do let me know if you are coming to Singapore. Evening rain was really bad in Bangkok. I would say Pattaya is better because me and our buddy Bernie scored all nights :P. I felt Bangkok Insomnia (Insanity now) is more expensive with admission fee and too much competition. The girls are too picky, and they even go back home alone around 4-5 am if they couldn't find their Guy.

Thanks / G

AssLover945
08-31-13, 02:20
Any tips on girls working the Bangkok blow job bar circuit right now that can do deep throat or get face fucked? My favorite at BJs is gone. I'm up for anywhere in the city, SOL, Kangaroos, Som's, Mikes, etcPoo at SOL does deep throat. But you need to tell her or atleast indicate by pushing her head deep once.

Mr Enternational
08-31-13, 02:36
Guys, I'll be there in Bangkok on a short transit only for about 6 hours. Can you recommend girl friendly 5 start hot near the airport.

Also I don't think I have time to go and pick up girls. Can you recommend a high class escort place. Thai and Europeans.Since someone comes on the forum every week asking this same thing, I have created a new thread for people on BKK layovers: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3523-Service-Options-and-Hotels-for-a-Short-Bangkok-Layover&p=1465943#post1465943

Jasonamo
08-31-13, 03:04
I'm just curious where is Sol?

Thanks,

Jason

Rick Rock
08-31-13, 04:22
Poo at SOL does deep throat. But you need to tell her or atleast indicate by pushing her head deep once.Thanks for the lead! Will definitely check it out.

Syzygies
08-31-13, 06:17
I'm just curious where is Sol? Thanks.

JasonHalf way up Phat Pong Soi 2, East side, between Silom Road and Surawong Road.

Can see the sign here (under red French Kiss sign). Its to the right of the sign:

http://goo.gl/maps/StGKI

Jasonamo
08-31-13, 07:53
I will try tomorrow. Thanks Syzygies!

Moris54
09-02-13, 15:37
Now I have been to almost every gogo bar in Nana and Soi Cowboy but for some reason I always keep coming back here. This reports curtails my first trip to Mandarin.

Its hard to find. Nestled between and 2 floors and the back end of NEP. To get there you have to walk all the way around the second floor, past the hordes of Ladyboys trying to grapple you into their clubs.

So into Mandarin I went. Very Small Place with many girls dancing. This is defo not the Rainbow's or Baccarra's. Its small, quaint and chilled. Mamasans always lurking outside and welcomed me in.

Took a seat. The thing I like about this bar is all the seats are built around the 3 stages. There is no "loner in the corner" type setting where you are far from the girls and can't see their number to call them over and yet too tired, shy or lazy to walk all the way and get their attention, just to come back to your seat when they show no interest or prefer you to a nerdy Jap, ala Rainbow 4.

Ok. Back to Mandarin. Took my seat amidst the gorgeous dancers on stage. Out of all the go-go's I have been to, I truly feel this place has top of the quality babes. Young, fresh and great attitudes. Also the Mamasan is very helpful. She will bring your drink over, and tell you the inside info about the girls. At least for me she did. Who does what and all that good stuff.

So my first time there, I sat down and after a chit chat with Mamasan, locked eyes with a girl sitting by the door. She was stunning. Really. One of them dark skinned type thai girls that look like porn star Lily Thai. She had her hair in braids and looked very unique for a Thai girl.

We started playing eyeball footsie. I was a little hesitant. I did not know if she worked there, since she wasn't dancing and sitting just outside the door. However after a few minutes when Mamasan passed her by, she stopped her and pointed to me. Mamasan looks at me and gives a thumbs up, I nod, the girl comes over.

Nat was her name. Spoke perfect English. I was actually astonished by this fact, because she did not have a strong Thai accent and was very clear. I knew she was mine for the night. Chit-chat, few drinks and asked her for an overnight which she quoted 4000 baht. No complaints, bar fined and off to the hotel. Seriously though, I can't emphasize how top notch her looks were, great body, really nice ass that did not droop. She defo took care of herself and I took care of that ass. Ohh boy.

And I can say with reasonable fact that you won't get this quality of girl overnight at that price in a place like Baccarra or Shark where girls of these looks will quote you 5000-8000 and up, maybe more if you are a Jap.

Back to brass tax.

Got her nice and cleaned, and onto the bed. Really nice BBBJ, wet and sensual. I inclined her to dwell a little further down and as she was giving attention to the boys, I wanted her tongue up my ass but alas she was not a rimmer. Flicked the nether regions a few licks over and I realized that was the best I was going to get. Is it just me or are bar girls not into rimming?

Ok so I got over it. Time to fuck.

Really nice. The feel of that precious ass bouncing on me was a joy. I still feel it as I write this report. Gosh. Amazing in every which way. It was an ass with no imperfections. I dare you to look.

A little bit of fucking in many positions and and I CIM. She took it with enthusiasm but spat it out in the bathroom.

A bit of a cuddle and we went out for Mantis Shrimp. Needless to say the cycle continued till the morning. In the morning she did not want to leave. As if to say she wanted to spend the day with me. Sadly I was flying out later that day and had stuff to do. I sure hope she is still there in Mandarin when I visit this weekend. Been there once after but did not see her there, although I got hitched with another stunner that looked like your wildest fantasy from a hentai cartoon. More on that later. Mandarin is my default spot in Nana now. If you want to find me, that's where I'll be!

Carpediemyes
09-02-13, 20:18
Wait a minute!

5000. 8000 LT [long time] for a bar or GoGo girl?

Even 4000 is on the high side and only reasonable for a top stunner.

LT is usually 2500 to 3000 IMO.

Certainly so after 12pm.

JMHO

Moris54
09-02-13, 20:35
Wait a minute!

5000. 8000 LT [long time] for a bar or GoGo girl?

Even 4000 is on the high side and only reasonable for a top stunner.

LT is usually 2500 to 3000 IMO.

Certainly so after 12pm.

JMHOThese were prices I was quoted in places like Baccara. Needless to say I did not accept the eight thousand offer but the most I have payed for a bar girl was about 5 grand and it was not worth it.

Paul Kausch
09-02-13, 20:46
Wait a minute!

5000. 8000 LT [long time] for a bar or GoGo girl?

Even 4000 is on the high side and only reasonable for a top stunner.

LT is usually 2500 to 3000 IMO.

Certainly so after 12pm.

JMHO
These were prices I was quoted in places like Baccara. Needless to say I did not accept the eight thousand offer but the most I have payed for a bar girl was about 5 grand and it was not worth it.I think the girls prefer multiple ST and quote very high for LT on purpose. They figure you'll probably say no, perhaps opt for ST, and if you do say yes it's well worth it for them. Last time I went to the gogos (which was during high season) , I couldn't even find a girl who would do LT.

Rjsss212
09-02-13, 20:51
If she quoted you 8000 she did not want you. Many have agendas, meeting friends, etc. Rarely do they have the discipline to do that many short times. Don't take it personally.


These were prices I was quoted in places like Baccara. Needless to say I did not accept the eight thousand offer but the most I have payed for a bar girl was about 5 grand and it was not worth it.

Rjsss212
09-02-13, 20:55
If all said no to long time then they didn't want you either. Maybe reassess your approach.


Last time I went to the gogos (which was during high season) , I couldn't even find a girl who would do LT.

Fast Eddie 48
09-03-13, 06:34
I was in Bangkok last week in patong walk by Star of light BJ bar saw 2 pretty girl siting outside, I ask one girl for take out back to the hotel no way I will get service at that shit hole so agree to 400 barfine and 1000 be ST take the bts back to asok service is good the girl is new not very experience finish with BJ CIM.

Fast Eddie 48

Syzygies
09-03-13, 06:39
I think the girls prefer multiple ST and quote very high for LT on purpose. They figure you'll probably say no, perhaps opt for ST, and if you do say yes it's well worth it for them. Last time I went to the gogos (which was during high season) , I couldn't even find a girl who would do LT.Some girls do not do LT at all. Boyfriend picks them up after work, or have to look after the baby, or go home to parents who don't want to know where she works, etc.

Other girls are refusing long time because they cannot sleep in a strange room, and besides their normal sleep hours are 8AM to 3PM. Other girls are refusing LT because guys do not offer enough. Many girls will change their mind if the money is high enough. They may normally be trying to get 3 STs in the evening. You need to get agreement as to what time you want her till as well, and that you are taking LT because you want sex in the morning.

Certainly long time girls can be found in bars. I know quite a few. Some girls are willing to do LT on occasions but not every day. Depends on their private circumstances at the time.

Watch out for tricky girls who agree to LT, but have no intention of keeping the promise. Happened to me once or twice. Obviously I cut the payment back to short time, but is annoying as wanted a girl in the morning. I have even heard of girls asking to be paid up front, and then running away, at first opportunity.

I have one bar girl that is willing to do a two stage ST. That is she does ST, goes away, I sleep, and then she comes back in the morning. This is rare, as not many girls can be trusted to come back. They might if they need to come back to get money though.

I certainly know of bargirls that usually do LT and ST more rarely. I have had a LT girl even out of Rainbow 4 and Baccara in the past. This is not the best places to look for them.

Syzygies
09-03-13, 06:52
I was in Bangkok last week in patong walk by Star of light BJ bar saw 2 pretty girl siting outside, I ask one girl for take out back to the hotel no way I will get service at that shit hole so agree to 400 barfine and 1000 be ST take the bts back to asok service is good the girl is new not very experience finish with BJ CIM.

Fast Eddie 48You could take her to The Strand Inn Hotel which is a quite decent ST Hotel very close by in PatPong 2. About 70 metres south of SOL.

Moris54
09-03-13, 07:54
some girls do not do lt at all. boyfriend picks them up after work, or have to look after the baby, or go home to parents who don't want to know where she works, etc.

other girls are refusing long time because they cannot sleep in a strange room, and besides their normal sleep hours are 8am to 3pm. other girls are refusing lt because guys do not offer enough. many girls will change their mind if the money is high enough. they may normally be trying to get 3 sts in the evening. you need to get agreement as to what time you want her till as well, and that you are taking lt because you want sex in the morning.

certainly long time girls can be found in bars. i know quite a few. some girls are willing to do lt on occasions but not every day. depends on their private circumstances at the time.

watch out for tricky girls who agree to lt, but have no intention of keeping the promise. happened to me once or twice. obviously i cut the payment back to short time, but is annoying as wanted a girl in the morning. i have even heard of girls asking to be paid up front, and then running away, at first opportunity.

i have one bar girl that is willing to do a two stage st. that is she does st, goes away, i sleep, and then she comes back in the morning. this is rare, as not many girls can be trusted to come back. they might if they need to come back to get money though.

i certainly know of bargirls that usually do lt and st more rarely. i have had a lt girl even out of rainbow 4 and baccara in the past. this is not the best places to look for them.most of the girls i have pulled forom gogo's are for long term. i had only one refuse claiming lt because she needed to be home by a certain hour (kinda valid excuse) but did take her for a couple hours. once pulled a girl from baccara around 9pm she stayed with me until 10 am the next day.

cute girl, sex was lacking though. personally i prefer lt because i usually hit the gogo's past midnight and don't want to be looking for a fuck at 3 in the morning. true they can make more money doing multiple st, but i guess if the girl is into you, lt is not an issue. sometimes though you can end up with a crazy and then you will wish she got the hell out.

happened to me with a girl form shark. looked hot, best ass on the dance floor. bar fined her, but she took an unusual while to come back to me and leave. this should have been and indicator. went to a wine bar on soi cowboy for some quick drinks, where to my surprise she just starts crying. loud. eveyone starts to look at me as if why is this foreigner making our thai girl cry?

i was like wtf, she just kept balling for about 10 minutes. i did nothing, sipped my wine, hoping the locals won't bug me. then all of a sudden she gets perky again, apologizes, goes to the bathroom to clean up and says she's hungry. we hit a restaurant, where lo and behold as soon as the waitress brings the menu she starts to cry again. even worse than last time. now i am in an predicament! can't just ditch her can i? i keep quite eat my food and she is still crying the whole time. won't tell me a reason, keeps muttering stuff in thai. i am thinking of a way to ditch this girl.

still nothing comes up. then, boom. after dinner, she perks up again and says lets go to the hotel and started groping me and in the taxi she was all over me. here i am thinking whatever it was, it was past. maybe i may have reminded her of something. i dunno. we get to the hotel room, she is about to take her pants off. and then. wailing, loud uninhibited wailing. i was like wtf! she started crying again, screaming about things in thai. she was so loud the neighbors could hear. i got fed up. i give her 500 baht for a taxi and tell her to leave. bad idea. she gets pissed on top of all the crying and begins to throw my stuff around, clothes, laptop, various shopping stuff rep001tered around my room.

then she demands 4000 baht from me or threatens to call the police, claiming "me thai lady," "me thai lady" and then tries to grab my passport which was sitting on the desk (bad place i know). fortunately i have a good rapport with the hotel staff since i stay there on all my trips and take good care of them (tip wise) and this generosity paid off. some of them came up, spoke to the girl in thai and managed to calm her down and take her outside.

she took the taxi cab money and left, my room was one hell of a mess though. moral of this story? if something seems a little off when you are about to pick up a girl at a gogo, specifically for lt, its better to let her slide, usually instincts are a very good first indicator.

Mua Tur
09-03-13, 09:12
Most of the girls I have pulled forom Gogo's are for Long Term. I had only one refuse claiming LT because she needed to be home by a certain hour (kinda valid excuse) but did take her for a couple hours. Once pulled a Girl from Baccara around 9PM she stayed with me until 10 am the next day.

Cute girl, sex was lacking though. Personally I prefer LT because I usually hit the Gogo's past midnight and don't want to be looking for a fuck at 3 in the morning. True they can make more money doing multiple ST, but I guess if the girl is into you, LT is not an issue. Sometimes though you can end up with a crazy and then you will wish she got the hell out.I can not say I am a lucky one regarding taking a Go Go girl for LT. In my early mongering days whenever I jumped up for LT with a Go Go girl, made me pissed of; 3 of 5 times I was in need to handle extra hassles, not to be fucked off my money by a Go Go girl. I can not remember ever I tried one after midnight or not. Because these days after having several ST (s) , I got couple of regular Go Go girls in BKK and patt. I can meet them on our mutual decided time.

If it is counted my two penny worthy and if you like to see the girl running away from you with your LT money, you can try for a Go Go girl. If you are first timer with her.

PinkPearl
09-03-13, 14:29
Wait a minute!

5000. 8000 LT [long time] for a bar or GoGo girl?

Even 4000 is on the high side and only reasonable for a top stunner.

LT is usually 2500 to 3000 IMO.

Certainly so after 12pm.

JMHOWhere would that be, gogos in the Philippine Islands? India or Africa?

In Thailand ST has been 2000 baht for some years now. Top girls may often refuse even that & demand more.

So there's no way in hell they're going to go with you LT for a lousy $17 more.

Paul Kausch
09-03-13, 18:24
Some girls do not do LT at all.

Certainly long time girls can be found in bars. I know quite a few. Some girls are willing to do LT on occasions but not every day. Depends on their private circumstances at the time.

Watch out for tricky girls who agree to LT, but have no intention of keeping the promise. Happened to me once or twice. Obviously I cut the payment back to short time, but is annoying as wanted a girl in the morning. I have even heard of girls asking to be paid up front, and then running away, at first opportunity.You are a wealth of information. Whether it be bargirls, freelancers or escorts, I've never been a fan of having them sleep over. After the business is concluded I'm perfectly happy for them to leave. Thanks for the warning about the "tricky girls. I've read and heard plenty of stores about girls skipping out in the middle of the night.

Rjsss212
09-03-13, 19:26
Thanks for the warning about the "tricky girls. I've read and heard plenty of stores about girls skipping out in the middle of the night.Plenty? Not in my experience. My "bad" experiences are probably less than 1. And who in the LOS pays before morning or at least before you are finished with her if you choose not to keep her till morning?

Did they leave without being paid?

I'm skeptical, stories from where?

Anyone else have such experiences?

Wolvenvacht
09-03-13, 19:31
Everyone's mileage will vary and all stories are anecdotal, but still interesting of course and may teach us a lesson.

I usually go for LT. The lack of "time stress", multiple pops, sleeping with a nice Thai girls in my arms and the morning sex, all add up to a nice package in my experience. Pricewise, I have seen and paid all prices between 1500 baht (two years ago, a cute young spinner from Suzie Wong) and 3500 baht plus barfine and some drinks. There is no rhyme or reason in these prices. My hunting grounds are the a-gogo clubs, mainly Suzie Wong, but also Livingstone's Sports Lounge or bars in Jomtien. I have no idea what price streetwalkers ask, or what is the going rate of girls in a disco.

Fact is that I never had any trouble to find a girl agreeing to LT in Thailand and I never picked one up after 11PM. My best experiences are even with those I picked up rather early, say between 9 and 10 PM.

Have I just been lucky? I blame my good karma, of course.

Also, my most enjoyable experiences are with girls that have choosen me rather than the other way around. I sit in Suzie Wong and admire the shows. I try to make eye contact with some girls that fit my idea of beauty and sexiness. Alas I seldom succeed with that strategy. So I keep quietly sipping my soda water and ponder the movement of the universe when more often than not, at a change of dancers, one of them (probably still only half -or less!- dressed) will pass by me and starts talking to me, or gives me a hug or take my hand and put it on her bum. I will offer her an LD and it will rarely take more than 30 minutes before we walk to my hotel for an LT. I don't ask for anything special: just straight sex in multiple positions, always safe and I don't even mind a covered BJ (although that is indeed rare). Speaking a few words of Thai helps clinching the deal. Making her laugh and whispering naughty things in her ear, don't harm either. Giving her some Thai kisses seems to surprise them in a good way. (Isn't it strange: they will not DFK in the club, but allow you to fondle their breasts and finger their pussy in public. I even once managed to lick a dancer's pussy on stage in Suzie Wong, to the cheer of the other dancers and patrons in the club). Thus laying the groundwork, the financial discussions then don't take long. Their initial offering is probably already within my price bracket, but agreeing immediately is not good form. A bit "pro forma" haggling, bringing the price down to an even more reasonable level and the deal is struck. If her price is *really* reasonable, I will offer her some food or something from the 7-11. By that time they know I never drink alcohol and have only soft drinks in the room, but in a strange way that seems OK to them. Some even told me that they actually don't like the alcohol and that the "whiskey" they drink is actually coca-cola and water. But maybe I attract a certain kind of girls,"like seeks like" or something.

Of course I "plan" beforehand the kind of girl I will fancy that night: say "small tits, trimmed pussy, long hair, long legs" or "C-cup tits, shaved pussy, curvy body", but if the girl that contacts me has 3 out of 4 or 2 out of 3 of the properties I planned for that night, I will not hesitate.

Is this a strategy that works for everybody? I doubt it. At my age, I'm happy to get a girl every other night on the average, so if I don't find anyone I fancy that is no big deal. If my hormone levels peak too high, there is always Eden Club or Annies to calm me down again.

Paul Kausch
09-04-13, 01:27
My inability to find a girl for LT may have been because this was a sample of half a dozen girls at an equal number of gogo bars over the course of two evenings, fairly early in the evening and it was early December. Too small a sample to draw any conclusions. A decade ago my experience was that almost all the girls jumped on an opportunity for LT. Over the last couple of years I've been reading this was no longer the case. I wanted to test it for myself and got no takers. I also picked up a couple of FLs, one from Climax and one from Gulliver's, and neither of these wanted LT, though both asked for a repeat and gave me their contact info as they were leaving.

Whether it is with MPs or gogo I envy you guys living in Bangkok. Assuming you treat them well I imagine the girls see you as very desirable and as a bit more than just a customer.

PinkPearl
09-04-13, 06:30
Isn't it strange: they will not DFK in the club, but allow you to fondle their breasts and finger their pussy in public. II once had a girl DFKing me at Thermae coffee shop, & one or two others plant a lip to lip kiss on me in public. I've also had one duck away from my attempted kiss. In general public affection is not considered proper in Thai society. You'll see some girls holding hands & that's about it. But in the dark world of gogo clubs there are exceptions. In general I do not find TGs are into DFK or any kind of Western smooching, as foreplay, although quite often they will even initiate it during sex when they are turned on. Or perhaps it's just a ploy to get a guy to come quickly.


By that time they know I never drink alcohol and have only soft drinks in the room, but in a strange way that seems OK to them. Some even told me that they actually don't like the alcohol and that the "whiskey" they drink is actually coca-cola and water. But maybe I attract a certain kind of girls,"like seeks like" or something.IME, almost entirely with streetwalkers, this is quite common, that they don't drink alcohol. I get the impression, for some reason, they are trying to be good Buddhists.

Stevebny
09-04-13, 07:07
There is no rhyme or reason in these prices.This is completely and utterly true about ST and LT but folks will always gripe about paying too much or not paying "standard". LOL!

Syzygies
09-04-13, 07:12
Have I just been lucky? I blame my good karma, of course.

Also, my most enjoyable experiences are with girls that have choosen me rather than the other way around. I sit in Suzie Wong and admire the shows. I try to make eye contact with some girls that fit my idea of beauty and sexiness. Alas I seldom succeed with that strategy. So I keep quietly sipping my soda water and ponder the movement of the universe when more often than not, at a change of dancers, one of them (probably still only half.or less- dressed) will pass by me and starts talking to me, or gives me a hug or take my hand and put it on her bum. I will offer her an LD and it will rarely take more than 30 minutes before we walk to my hotel for an LT.Yes you may have been lucky. I hope other do not take this as advice. There is one girl in SW with an odd shaped body, ordinary face, and ugly silicone Cs, fortunately I forget the name, however she is renowned for approaching customers uninvited. Yin Yang was with me and took a little time to get rid of her, being a very polite guy. Another buddy of mine S, failed to get rid of her, as he is too soft, and ended up taking her back to Hotel for a very crap session. So beware. Don't accept girls that choose you, should be the rule, if you have not given them any sign of interest at all.

Unfortunately some of the bar staff at SW can be a bit pushy these days, be it for drinks or bar fines. I just tell them I will leave if they hassle me and don't call any girls over till I say so (my regular girls are accepted). I don't like nagging! I used to like Sheba better as was more laid back style.

Syzygies
09-04-13, 07:34
This is completely and utterly true about ST and LT but folks will always gripe about paying too much or not paying "standard". LOL!There is some reason to it. Its simply the match or mismatch between what the girl thinks she is worth or what she can get verses how much the guy thinks she is worth or how little he can get away with.

Sometimes there is a supply and demand effect causing different girls to charge different amounts, but supply / demand can work in reverse. When business is down for all the girls, they may put up the prices as they need to make more.

I think there is a correlation between the price and girl's looks but little correlation between the price and the performance, except that when I don't negotiate a price at all, I get more control to vary the payment based on how well she tried to please. Hence I vary between paying average and paying well. No point to tipping much extra if I do not intend to do the girl again, due to being rather weak or ordinary.

When superior looking girls are struggling to find guys that are willing to pay extra for their superior looks, I am suspecting that they form a plan to do super quickies (performing badly) in order to make more money from high turnover. I would prefer to pay more than standard and get a good duration with the hotter girls. There are some bars like the Rainbows where I would want to discuss the duration with the girl, e. G. 90 mins or 8 hours etc. No 30 min ST for me.

My last girl at Dollhouse was a super girl, super ass, super fuck. She said she normally does LT but was O.K. to do ST with me since I had to go to the airport afterwards. She would have got another customer after me for sure. Fabulous bar girls at good honest prices do exist and more than happy to go LT. Clearly likes fucking Farangs too. I will certainly call her to make a date before I return to Thailand, to avoid disappointment. Don't recall ever having a disappointing girl from Dollhouse, once I decided to take her, and I have taken at least 5 girls.

My preferred bars (all have full nudity for 50% of girls or more): Dollhouse, CrazyHouse (getting popular fast), Suzie Wong. Have tried Nana from time to time, but not found any bar that is sufficiently fun like the Cowboy bars, to keep pulling me back. I think I have just got used to a certain style. Baccara and Shark are more boring bars for me.

Yin Yang
09-04-13, 16:43
Hm, maybe I've been just lucky with my rather naive approach, but usually I always agree on ST first and then extend to LT if performance and chemistry ok. Provided I take her to my hotel and not to an ST place.

Never had a problem with that kind of "on-board upgrade." Ok, the LT upgrade premium after ST might give away a bit too much information if the girl actually likes me or not, being a bit too high in the latter case. Generally, I get quotes from LT=ST price plus "up to you" to double the ST price. Some reject the offer altogether of course (want to have more than one additional customer that night, party with friends with my money, tired of f*ing already.).

Paul Kausch
09-04-13, 17:16
Hm, maybe I've been just lucky with my rather naive approach, but usually I always agree on ST first and then extend to LT if performance and chemistry ok. Provided I take her to my hotel and not to an ST place.Interesting approach. Kind of like up-selling, which is weird because you're supposedly the buyer. For what it's worth, none of the ladies I talked to at the gogos would go back to my hotel. They would only go to the ST hotel down the corridor from the club. I ended up bar fining two. One was in a big hurry. Suck, suck, f*ck, f*ck, rush, rush, squirt! The other spent a very fun 90 minutes with me.

Moris54
09-04-13, 17:53
My last girl at Dollhouse was a super girl, super ass, super fuck. She said she normally does LT but was okay to do ST with me since I had to go to the airport afterwards. She would have got another customer after me for sure. Fabulous bar girls at good honest prices do exist and more than happy to go LT. Clearly likes fucking Farangs too. I will certainly call her to make a date before I return to Thailand, to avoid disappointment. Don't recall ever having a disappointing girl from Dollhouse, once I decided to take her, and I have taken at least 5 girls.

My preferred bars (all have full nudity for 50% of girls or more) : Dollhouse, CrazyHouse (getting popular fast) , Suzie Wong. Have tried Nana from time to time, but not found any bar thatis sufficiently fun like the Cowboy bars, to keep pulling me back. I think I have just got used to a certain style. Baccara and Shark are more boring bars for me.Think I'll try Dollhouse this time round. Only places I have been to in Soi Cowboy are Baccara and Shark with mediocre to bad experiences in both.

Yin Yang
09-04-13, 18:14
Interesting approach. Kind of like up-selling, which is weird because you're supposedly the buyer. For what it's worth, none of the ladies I talked to at the gogos would go back to my hotel. They would only go to the ST hotel down the corridor from the club.Not weird because it's up-buying rather than selling. It isn't weird to decide to stay longer in a hotel you like either, is it?

But recalling the cases in question, you're probably right too. Because at the NEP clubs it's now more likely that I take them to the ST hotel anyway because it's more convenient. For instance I think I never took a Rainbow girl to my hotel, and most didn't seem keen on it (unless hotel was very near). Renegotiated to LT with a girl from Soi Cowboy just recently though and with the odd freelancer before. So yes, it probably depends a lot on the venue and of course on the girl if they're interested in LT at all.

Paul Kausch
09-04-13, 18:24
Not weird because it's up-buying rather than selling. It isn't weird to decide to stay longer in a hotel you like either, is it?

But recalling the cases in question, you're probably right too. Because at the NEP clubs it's now more likely that I take them to the ST hotel anyway because it's more convenient. For instance I think I never took a Rainbow girl to my hotel, and most didn't seem keen on it (unless hotel was very near). Renegotiated to LT with a girl from Soi Cowboy just recently though and with the odd freelancer before. So yes, it probably depends a lot on the venue and of course on the girl if they're interested in LT at all.Didn't mean to imply I thought there was anything weird about what you are doing. I think it's rather clever. I meant we are all familiar with up-selling. You cunningly turned the tables and "up-bought" as you put it.

PinkPearl
09-04-13, 21:05
So beware. Don't accept girls that choose you, should be the rule, if you have not given them any sign of interest at all.IME with streetwalkers I would not make such a rule. There is none. But maybe gogos are different.

Syzygies
09-05-13, 02:39
Interesting approach. Kind of like up-selling, which is weird because you're supposedly the buyer. For what it's worth, none of the ladies I talked to at the gogos would go back to my hotel. They would only go to the ST hotel down the corridor from the club. I ended up bar fining two. One was in a big hurry. Suck, suck, f*ck, f*ck, rush, rush, squirt! The other spent a very fun 90 minutes with me.That is clear sign the girl wants quickie. Not recommended. Becoming a trend in rainbow bars I fear.

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Paul Kausch
09-05-13, 04:59
That is clear sign the girl wants quickie. Not recommended. Becoming a trend in rainbow bars I fear.

InGood observation. As always, you know what you're talking about. In the future I'd be inclined to pass on a girl who is only willing to go to a ST hotel; however, the funny thing is I had a great 90 minutes in the ST hotel with the one girl. I've written about her before. She was a real sweetie and was actually taking me to her room. She clearly lived in the ST hotel room we played in. She seemed almost afraid to leave NEP.

Syzygies
09-05-13, 06:09
good observation. as always, you know what you're talking about. in the future i'd be inclined to pass on a girl who is only willing to go to a st hotel; however, the funny thing is i had a great 90 minutes in the st hotel with the one girl. i've written about her before. she was a real sweetie and was actually taking me to her room. she clearly lived in the st hotel room we played in. she seemed almost afraid to leave nep.the other reason is **** girls are scared to go to hotel where i'd will be checked.

Paul Kausch
09-05-13, 07:00
the other reason is **** girls are scared to go to hotel where i'd will be checked.this girl looked to be mid-twenties and khmer.

Yin Yang
09-05-13, 09:23
the other reason is **** girls are scared to go to hotel where i'd will be checked.wouldn't make a difference because they now also check i'd at the st hotel an nep (at least the one down the corridor from r4). seems to be a new procedure though, at least i can't recall they did that before.


that is clear sign the girl wants quickie. not recommended. becoming a trend in rainbow bars i fear.True, I'm afraid, got that impression too last time. report to follow.

Paul Kausch
09-05-13, 19:35
wouldn't make a difference because they now also check i'd at the st hotel an nep (at least the one down the corridor from r4). seems to be a new procedure though, at least i can't recall they did that before.probably related to the **** bust that occurred a few weeks ago.

by the way i hear some of the nep bars are back to topless and birthday suits. any confirmations? guess they've reached an "understanding" with the authorities, ha ha.

Dextro Sol
09-05-13, 21:55
probably related to the **** bust that occurred a few weeks ago.i didn't think the more well known gogo-bars would employ ****, but for sure they do. i heard about one of the more famous / classic places in soi cowboy the other day. a girl aged 16, i even have a face picture of her. really cute, and could go for 18, but is only 16. and from what i heard, there are more girls under 18 in this bar.

BionicMan
09-05-13, 22:25
probably related to the **** bust that occurred a few weeks ago.by the way i hear some of the nep bars are back to topless and birthday suits. any confirmations? guess they've reached an "understanding" with the authorities, ha ha.once the tsunami is over, waters calm down.

Paul Kausch
09-05-13, 23:16
i didn't think the more well known gogo-bars would employ ****, but for sure they do. i heard about one of the more famous / classic places in soi cowboy the other day. a girl aged 16, i even have a face picture of her. really cute, and could go for 18, but is only 16. and from what i heard, there are more girls under 18 in this bar.i've heard the nep and soi cowboy gogo bars traditionally have tried to avoid employing **** girls, but the bars are now in such fierce competition for bar girls, some take desperate actions. my experiences over the years are that the **** girls are most often found in the "thai-centric venues" where youth sells for a premium.

Syzygies
09-06-13, 04:27
This girl looked to be mid-twenties and Khmer.If she is not a Thai, that could be yet another problem.

Syzygies
09-06-13, 04:29
Wouldn't make a difference because they now also check I'd at the ST hotel an NEP (at least the one down the corridor from R4). Seems to be a new procedure though, at least I can't recall they did that before.okay The ST Hotels in Cowboy area don't check. Some bars have upstairs fucking rooms too.

Syzygies
09-06-13, 04:48
i've heard the nep and soi cowboy gogo bars traditionally have tried to avoid employing **** girls, but the bars are now in such fierce competition for bar girls, some take desperate actions. my experiences over the years are that the **** girls are most often found in the "thai-centric venues" where youth sells for a premium.i don't see much evidence of the avoiding. the japanese customers like it too much. these girls need the money and do not wish to suffer from discrimination. everyone wants the right to work.

when taksin came to power (not yingluck) , the **** and foreign girls were swept out of the mps and bars. that lasted for a little while and then things gradually moved back to the old ways. however there are far less non thais than originally. a lot of "thai yai" (not thai and not normal burmese) from mountains of northern myanmar used to work in soapies many years ago. not so much now. the mps are generally better behaved these days. many not taking ****. okay there are exceptions like nataree.

there is the odd girl in bars that does not go with customers at all. even if they are ****, that is not the reason. its unlikely they are virgins. usually means they have a boyfriend already and have agreed not to fuck for money. these girls are usually working for drinks / tips. it then becomes slightly interesting to see what they will agree to, for how much tip lol. i often feel their main issue is being seen by others to do something naughty rather than the actual doing. will the bf find out? will their reputation be tarnished? lol

Paul Kausch
09-06-13, 05:10
If she is not a Thai, that could be yet another problem.That was my thought. She stuck out in Bangkok, would have looked right at home in Phnom Penh.

Paul Kausch
09-06-13, 05:13
I don't see much evidence of the avoiding. Thanks for the primer.

HotShaneHot
09-06-13, 13:25
i don't see much evidence of the avoiding. the japanese customers like it too much. these girls need the money and do not wish to suffer from discrimination. everyone wants the right to work.

when taksin came to power (not yingluck) , the **** and foreign girls were swept out of the mps and bars. that lasted for a little while and then things gradually moved back to the old ways. however there are far less non thais than originally. a lot of "thai yai" (not thai and not normal burmese) from mountains of northern myanmar used to work in soapies many years ago. not so much now. the mps are generally better behaved these days. many not taking ****. okay there are exceptions like nataree.

there is the odd girl in bars that does not go with customers at all. even if they are ****, that is not the reason. its unlikely they are virgins. usually means they have a boyfriend already and have agreed not to fuck for money. these girls are usually working for drinks / tips. it then becomes slightly interesting to see what they will agree to, for how much tip lol. i often feel their main issue is being seen by others to do something naughty rather than the actual doing. will the bf find out? will their reputation be tarnished? loli know of a bar in udonthani that has a girl that will not go with customers she looks 14 year old.

everybody tell me she is 21 year old.

i just don't know.

her nick name is baby in bar?

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RockHound74
09-06-13, 14:12
Day 1.

Landed BKK 10pm, met my wingman at Airport for my first trip to BKK. Exchanged about $200 (6100 Baht) at the port to get me started Ride from BKK to Soi Cowboy area was about 30 min by taxi. About 400 baht plus tolls.

Jasmine Executive suites was a quick checkin with an awesome view of Soi Cowboy. The hotel is literally 150 yards from one entrance to Soi Cowboy. I highly recommend at $81US per night for a one bedroom suite with and great corner bathroom with windows overlooking the city. The girls I have brought back love that bath!

Got settled in, showered, changed and met my wingy in the lobby. He has been to BKK 10+ times so I let him lead the way. Walked to Suzy Wongs. Since this was my first trip to BKK not know exactly what to expect I was very happy when we walk behind the curtain. Read reports and saw pictures but nothing really prepares you for the sheer awe of being here. The girls were on stage, some interested in dancing some just swaying, were completely naked and it was a good view of the goods. My pal and I bing a bit tired were just planning on having a quick look / walk around to see if there was anything we liked. Mama sat us near the back of the seating area and we grabbed 2 drinks. After a quick toast in celebration of finally making it to BKK 2 girls catch our eyes. His girls, I honestly cannot remember, was a nice Cambodian and mine was as well. My girls name was Koh but nick names Lin I later found out. We talk / negotiate for a LT. 3000K plus BF and LDs. And we are off. I had literally walk out of the airport 1 hour prior and I was heading back with a hot girl to my room.

As I said the girls loved the room with the bathroom view. Lin started the bath while I cleaned up valuables in the room. Into the safe and I was stripping down and hopped in. She washed me and I washed her and BBBJ commenced. I was looking out over the city in the tub in a dark room getting my dick sucked. Needless to say I was in heaven. She did that for a good 15 min. I stated to rub her and mutual touching moved to the bed. I started to rub her pussy and us a nice technique to get her to orgasm. It worked after about 5 min of slow effort and I was off to the races. Cover mish, dog standing and I shot all over her back while she was standing in front of the window. She showers and we both got to sleep. I wake with the morning wood around 7am and started to rub her puss. She starts BBBJ no CIM. So I shot it on her chin. LOL That will teach her not to catch it. She though we were done. OH NO. Had another 30 min session pounding her sweet ass until I could not anymore. Finally shot last load on her belly and she showers and leaves.

I shower and go get breakfast in the lobby with my Wingman.

Day 2.

Wingy had some errands to run so I tagged along. Got $800 exchanged for 32. 13 near the hotel. Walked to the 7-11 bought a prepaid sim for my unlocked old flip phone. The girl behind the counter set it up and I was off! Walked down Sukhumvit Road looked at a few shops and got measured to a couple of new tailored shirts for $28 a piece.

Wingman proceeds to say after a long flight."time for a good thai legit massage" So he walks me to Lavana and we get a 3 hr combo Thai, Scrub and oil massage for 1200 baht. $30US for an unreal massage. Nice place and it was a perfect cure for some of the stress from the previous days long flights.

Went back to hotel after picking up food and water for the room. Wing bought party supplies for a party Sat night that we planned to have. He was going to make jello shots and we brought prizes for 4 lucky girls. Yet to be named or found for that matter. Plan was to get 4 girls and play beer / drink pong, truth or dare games. Etc. So he picks up his supplies and the supermarket not far from the hotel.

Dinner at the Argentinian Steakhouse. Very good but pricey. Then Patpong for some shopping. Looked through the tons of street vendors and then ducked in to Kings Palace (I think that was the name) Cute girls but BF was too high so we moved back to Soi Cowboy. By this time it was 11:30pm so we hit Shark and Baccara. The glass floor at Baccarra was neat but the music was so loud and it was so packed that we left for Shark. Shark was ok. Girls were decent but each fish we pulled got turned back for price or no LT. So we move back to Suzy Wongs.

Wingman and I sit for 30 min watching and having a few drinks. Finally we pull a few. I pull Pam and he pulls a cute 20 yr old. He starts to solidify his needs and finds out she and her friend will be good to go for Sat party. They like lesbian action and we like to watch and participate so it is a win-win!

While he gets that set up Pam and I talk and negotiate. She is a bit high but I found her interesting. LT we agree on 3000 if she does all that I ask and we have a nice evening session. I had bought to Kamagra Jelly and I was looking forward to trying it out. She agrees and we are off. Wingy pulls a girl and we are off.

Back at the suite. She loves the bathroom and we take a long bath together. Window open and the lights out it was very nice. BBBJCIM. I rejuvenate in the tub while she brushes her teeth and hops back in. Kissing and mutual touching and we move to the bed. This girl cums just by sucking on her ample breasts. Its was too easy and she kept getting wetter and wetter down there. She loved to fuck. We did it in every position imaginable and with the windows open. She loved that and I think it made it even more enjoyable for her. I was a sweaty mess and so was she. I had to slow up a bit since the condom, beer and the previous pop was dulling my senses. She revs me up again and she said "I want you cum inside this time" I salp on a new condom and off to the races deep and hard. She just kept shuttering and her eyes rolled back a few times until I blew inside. I roll over spent. She laid there for a good 15 min with her leg and arm over me until she gets up to shower. By this time it was 4am. She sleeps for a few hours until 7am and I poke her one more time before she heads home. Gave her 3500 for being a good fuck and I start getting ready for Day 3.

Day 3.

Today was a sightseeing day first. So we got up and took the sky train to Saphan Taksin from Asok. 150 Baht for the tourist ferry down the river to The Grand Palace. These are large boats and efficiently move people around on the river. When I boarded all I could think of was a scene from Hangover II when Stu sings "Living here in Allentown". If you have seen the movie you will know what I mean. The Palace was beautiful and tons of tourists of course. Wingy said "ya came this far you ought to see some of the temples and palaces" He had a point. You travel this far why not.

After a few hours of sight seeing we head back to the hotel for an afternoon of mongering. Eden to be precise. (edenbangkok dot com / services/). We walk from the hotel. 10 min walk and pop some jelly while we walk. BTW. This jelly stuff works and I did not get the side effects that I normally get with Viagra. I love that stuff. Eden was to be a full on 2 girl 90 min. Session massage. Picked the first girl and had her pick the second (wingman's idea and a good one since that allowed the chosen one to pick a girl she likes). Do not ask me there names since I am horrible at remembering names. Wingman and I decided to get the big room and share it as a party room. So off we all 6 go. Room had 2 king beds and a long shower stall. We all get naked and step in for a good scrub in the shower. My girls take care of me and wingman's take care of him. I finished first and laid down on the bed for BBBJ from both girls. They we asked them to do each other while my primary pick does a BBBJ. They had porn of the TV in the room which was a nice plus while soaking up what was going on. Mirrors everywhere as well. Then I bend over #2 doggie and I switch back an forth for the next 60 min until #1 gets a protein shake. Wingman is still going to town on his girls. They called him "superman". LOL. So I hit the showers and my #1 and #2 scrub me down. We come back and he is still pounding away as I start my massage. The girls finished up with a 30 min massage but I could have gone again if I wanted to. Wingman finishes with about 20 minutes left and he opts for a massage as well. Overall observation. It was an experience, on a scale of 1-10 a 7. Mostly due to the multiple girl action that is a bucket list type thing. The girls are 5-7's no stunners but some solid girls.

Back to the hotels for a couple hour nap before our dinner dates with a couple Bangkok VIP Models. My Avatar, as of writing this, is the girl that I had requested. We both decided that we might as well splurge on a almost guaranteed high quality girl. The night was supposed to be filled with Dinner, dancing and the evening room activities for both girls but it turned out that my girl, Gina, could only do a max session of 4 hours. So we still all had dinner and after Gina and I graciously took our leave of my wingman and Anna then headed back to the hotel. There we did the normal activities but just on a shortened timetable. Shower, BBBJ, DATY, and multiple positions with this nice tight lady that does enjoy sex. We go for a short round hard and fast and I popped fairly quick. Clean up and she offers more but I declined since I knew that my time was close to being up and I was tired from the night before. I was dealing with only 2 hours sleep from the night before. It was time for me to go sleepy.

Day 4.

Morning was filled with running a few errands, getting dollars exchanged and party prep. Today was the day of our party. We had prizes, food and fun planned. As well did errands we stopped into a foot massage place and got a foot massage for 60 min = 250 baht. A good way to start out a day of walking Bangkok. Got supplies and after a morning of walking and viewing the Sukhumvit area it was time for a nap. HOT day today and a hotter one planned for tonight.

Note about the Hotel. Jasmine Executive suites. The location is so good. The proximity to Soi Cowboy, Skytrain and the Subway is hard to beat.

7pm rolls around and it was my job to go pick up the 2 girls, Bee and Bo that my wingman had "reserved" at Suzie Wongs earlier in the week. One problem. We needed a 3rd girl to round out our 4 for the party. So I get to Suzie Wongs and start looking for Bee and Bo. After 2 minutes Koh comes over and we start talking and I asked her if she would be interested in a party in our room. She said "YAH". Since I had a very good experience with Koh on Wednesday I thought I would give her a try again! So barfined 3 girls for 1800 baht and headed back to the party room.

Arrived a few minutes later and wingman had the food, drinks and party bags out for the girls to view as they walked in. All 3 shrieked with joy. We had beer / drink pong where some cups had prize bags where the girls could win unknown items. Cash, sex toys, candy, underwear. So the girls, Ann, Koh, Bee and Bo are sitting on the couch talking and getting to know each other. Nice sight and I knew we were going to have one of those BKK nights to remember. Jello shots started appearing from the fridge so we all had 2-3 of those and I mixed up a few drinks for the girls.

After about 15 minutes of all of us laughing and getting to know each other we started round one of beer / drink pong. This round had underwear as the prizes. If the girls hit a cup with a number then they got the party bag as it corresponds to the number. If they missed a cup then take a drink. We had 3 rounds to go through. After each girl had a good time competing they all got a bag and opened their bags up and had to model the underwear for us, the judges. They could do anything to influence the judges, and I mean anything. So wingman and I picked a winner after a run off. You have to draw out the competition since we were on the receiving end of the influence. The girls were loosening up at this point and having a ton of fun. They asked Wingman and I to model our underwear so we did and hilarity ensued. Then Wingman and I picked 2 numbers from a hat that corresponded to each girl. Once we picked 2 girls then they were told they need to shower with the person that picked them. I got Bo and Koh. They scrubbed me and a little BBBJ in the shower. Bo was only 20 so she was a little taken and shy having so many people watching. She was still a little clammed up but OK. Koh was very good. She just jumped in, had a great time and took it all in stride.

Round 2 had sex toys and the girls were told to use once we moved to the bedroom. They were shocked with a few of the toys.

Round 3 and final round had cash, a sex position scratch off and chocolates. They all loved this round since it added more cash to their stacks. We did not add much just a few baht but the appreciated it and now the party was starting to get into high gear. They all had 2 hours to get some drinks food and into the mood.

In the bedroom Bee and Bo a few days ago said they would do a lesbian show. They stripped the underwear of and laid on the bed and started. Wingman and I got the other 2 girls undressed and we all laid on the King bed with Bee and Bo in the middle, Wingman started "assisting" Bo with some DATY and was getting more treatment from his girl Ann. I started to play with Bee and Koh on the other side of the bed. For the rest of the 2 hours you can use your imagination. But needless to say multiple girls we went through about 10+ condoms. Observation . Bee and Bo were only 20 years old and it showed. They looked very out of place and taken back even though they agreed to doing these things I think they did not realize the enormity of the night until they arrived and things started to progress. Koh and Ann were awesome! They were 3 or so years older but very much so experienced.

After 4. 5 hours of fun Wingman and I decided to cut Bee and Bo loose since they were just not up for our wants and needs. They were OK but not what I wanted to spend the night with. So we pay them and let them go home. Ann and Koh stayed for LT. We go get some dinner across the street at Love Scene. The girls ate a big meal and they deserved it. They worked their asses of and I know Koh had 4 orgasms and Ann had at least 3. I did not get to partake of Ann during the party but I watched and knew that my wingman was just as lucky as I was. We go to the bar at the end of Soi Cowboy for a few beers and dancing. After a few we head back to my room for round. Whatever round it was. She could not stay all night with me she said which was fine I negotiated a lower rate and we laid on my bed. I have her on her stomach giving her a back rub. As I am doing that the jelly kicks in and we are off to the races. I pounded her while she was on her belly for a while. Blow a load on her back. She cleans up and I cut her loose. WOW. Fucking Bangkok.

RockHound74
09-06-13, 14:13
Day 5 and 6.

Day 5 was pretty standard. Relaxed a bit went to Lavana as well. Decided to hit Nana at 5pm.

Wingman pick up Nok at the bar on the right as you enter. Cute little 26 yr old. I head up to Spankys with them nothing to see and walk over to Angelwitch. Find a girl and we negotiate but 4000 was her floor. No for me.

Back to Soi Cowboy and Suzie Wongs with wingman and Nok in tow. I look around and ask to see some of the ones that I have had previous. Almost all of them were off that day. Darn I wanted to take Pam or Koh. I see a 19 yr old on the stage and wave her over. Her name was Not. Really small and pretty new to the game I found out the hard way. We did settle on a price and activities and we were off to have a few drinks in my Wingman's room. We played some games. Strip coin flip and beer pong again to give out the remaining panties. Both Not and Nok were very shy until the drinks started kicking in. Unfortunately I was on of the first ones down to my birthday suit and when it came for the girls time to take the last article of clothing off they both chickened out! Damn. I really wanted to see wingman's girls. She was hot and had a great peronality. My girl on the other hand I could see that she was so new and sooooo shy that it was going to be a struggle to get her to get comfortable. So we all decide around 2am to head to our respective rooms. Back in the room Not took a shower and I followed her in. She looked a bit confused but I washed her down. She did not do me the same. Warning. Warning. On the bed started DATY and then popped up for air. She was so small and tight that I had trouble in even with some lube. So after some very slow entries we were off. Needless to say I could not go to deep since she was grimacing for much of the deed. So I flip her on her side and enter from the side. She said a little better and at that point I said "fuck it" so I start thrusts to match her backing up and she screamed a few times and I blow a load on her ass.

Day 6.

Not was up early and was stalling in the shower. So when she came back I cut my loses and told her to go home. Gave her the agreed fee but said "You might want to try a new job" That night I told Mamasan at Suzy Wongs that not needs guidance or she is going to get a not so nice guy that will find her timid refusals once in the room to be a major issue after agreeing to do certain things inside the bar.

Headed down to breakfast and find that I am really jealous of the wingmans night and his beautiful girl. They were eating breakfast and he later told me the fun. WOW. Good for him.

The rest of the day was filled with working on a few business items for me and a nap then Poseidon. Took the subway 5 stops to where Poseidon was located. Walked in and was shuttled to the elevator to the 3rd floor. There the girls were 4k and when we walked in no other customers were there. The girls just sat in their chairs and looked at their phones and did not even budge. Wingman and I said."OK next floor" Went to floor 2 where the 2700 to 3000 baht girls were. We both grabbed a drink and pick a few from the fishbowl and went up for a 2 hr soapie. I had a good experience and the girls was a 7 out of 10 so that mad it more enjoyable. Typical stuff quick massage, Bath / soapie and Boom Boom. I napped after for apparently just a few minutes and then we all left after wingman finished.

WIngman said lets go see Nok again to tell her something. OK. After he talked to her he started thinking that he would BF her again. After we did not see anything at Gulliver's he calls her and we head to suzie wongs for my final pull. I get Koh since she was a great performer. We heap up to Wingman's room again for drinks and strip card. Koh loved the fun we were having but wanted to get my wingmans back massager and head back tot he room. So we did. I was all ready to go and jumped into the shower for some heavy petting and she looks down. We just discover that her monthly was starting! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I said " This is not good" she said "I have other ways" and I said "it better be anal" and she nodded. Close one I thought I was going to have to throw her back but no. I play in the shower and throw on a condom for anal. WOAH tight. Too tight. I pop in about 10 min and we go lay down for sleepy.

I am checking out of my hotel now so this is the last of the tales. Until we meet again Bangkok. Here endeth the lesson.

Yin Yang
09-06-13, 14:54
Was staying near Nana anyway last week and had some free time after meeting a friend, so decided to make an excursion to NEP. I didn't have much time and knew that selection would take a while so I went straight to Rainbow 4 because (for me) it's still the best bet around there. I was placed directly at the non-nude stage, which I don't like much because you get a stiff neck from staring up. Ok, so had to look the other way instead toward the topless stage most of the time. It still took a long time and two changes of the line-up until I could figure out two cutes. Alas, extremely lacklustre dance performance as usual at R4.

Neither of them really made me jump out of my seat but at least they matched the basic criteria, cute face, slim, no or few tats. They were 7 to 8s but of course I was looking for more. Approaching 11:30pm I had to make a choice and instead of going through a list of selection criteria I simply went for the more interesting hairstyle. It's rare to see a nice short haircut and #40-something, could've been 48 or 46, had quite an interesting asymmetrical bob, Rihanna-style before she changed her hair. Very little English but cute enough, Northeastern, sharp facial features, nice body with a bit of boobs, maybe a small B. Great smile once she left the stage. She was quickly talked down from 2500 to 2000 but I would tip for good performance of course.

Well, that didn't quite happen because as soon as we entered the room in the ST hotel, she was all rushed. It began with commenting on the size of my member. Always glad to hear otherwise but it ain't that big after all. But she insisted and so a "you finish quick, jaeb" session followed. After some handwork the condom came on and I thought "OK, CBJ, not so great." But instead: no BJ but straight to the action. Also fine, I could live with that horny as I was. But also no kissing. Well that's like sex with a condom! OK, maybe put it differently: It's like a condom without sex! I still took my time and otherwise her movements were OK, so not exactly a starfish. In the end no kiss no tip, sorry. But obviously she didn't mind. Seems like you better discuss all aspects of service before nowadays, which I hate.

So overall performance 6/10 for a cute face and good body but not so good attitude and performance.

Rjsss212
09-06-13, 17:46
So overall performance 6/10 for a cute face and good body but not so good attitude and performance.That's why I've pretty much written off R4. I always stop in and sometimes twice in my hunt but I never pull. And I generally only pull from NaNa.

Many lookers but none have ever passed my fairly comprehensive interview processs. But then I only take LT so need to be more discerning.

In fact they usually fail early in the questioning and end up leaving a perfectly good sugar water drink untouched.

R4 girls get hardened very early in their "careers".

Gringo147
09-06-13, 20:31
Back in BKK with a couple of mates late December and while I'm not keen on bar girls, I'm willing to give it another go, especially with a newbie to BKK with us. I prefer to know what I'm getting, with reviewed escorts that will ride your head off, cost doesn't worry me.

Anyway, I'm interested to hear "interview techniques" from the regular BKK guys. I don't see any examples in ROD etc. And think it would be good for all newbies.

HotShaneHot
09-07-13, 04:06
Day 2.

While he gets that set up Pam and I talk and negotiate. She is a bit high but I found her interesting. LT we agree on 3000 if she does all that I ask and we have a nice evening session. I had bought to Kamagra Jelly and I was looking forward to trying it out. She agrees and we are off. Wingy pulls a girl and we are off.

Back at the suite. She loves the bathroom and we take a long bath together. Window open and the lights out it was very nice. BBBJCIM. I rejuvenate in the tub while she brushes her teeth and hops back in. Kissing and mutual touching and we move to the bed. This girl cums just by sucking on her ample breasts. Its was too easy and she kept getting wetter and wetter down there. She loved to fuck. We did it in every position imaginable and with the windows open. She loved that and I think it made it even more enjoyable for her. I was a sweaty mess and so was she. I had to slow up a bit since the condom, beer and the previous pop was dulling my senses. She revs me up again and she said "I want you cum inside this time" I salp on a new condom and off to the races deep and hard. She just kept shuttering and her eyes rolled back a few times until I blew inside. I roll over spent. She laid there for a good 15 min with her leg and arm over me until she gets up to shower. By this time it was 4am. She sleeps for a few hours until 7am and I poke her one more time before she heads home. Gave her 3500 for being a good fuck and I start getting ready for Day 3.

Day 3.

Wow this is why I like udonthani I get the same as you but for only 1,500 bt LT.

When I am in BBK I only get ST for 1,500.

Tony Hoeprano
09-07-13, 04:22
Back in BKK with a couple of mates late December and while I'm not keen on bar girls, I'm willing to give it another go, especially with a newbie to BKK with us. I prefer to know what I'm getting, with reviewed escorts that will ride your head off, cost doesn't worry me.

Anyway, I'm interested to hear "interview techniques" from the regular BKK guys. I don't see any examples in ROD etc. And think it would be good for all newbies.I don't think you have to use any ridiculous interview technique, you're bartering for a blowjob, not looking to hire her for project management at Microsoft. Just go off of body language. If she is smiling and feeling you up, flicking your ear with her tongue, and maybe shoving a teat in your face, you're golden.

If she has a look of either boredom or disgust, you might want to choose another girl or consider purchasing stronger underarm deodorant

Yin Yang
09-07-13, 14:24
R4 girls get hardened very early in their "careers".Perhaps, but I've had good encounters there before, for instance last year with a girl named Roong, yes, as in "Rainbow" (doesn't seem to work there anymore). My sample from R4 is just too small to generalize but from what I've read here as well, it may be true that you must be lucky to pull a good one there. And certainly many R4 girls have an attitude that puts me off. And they fail during small talk. The one I was referring to in my post seemed to be alright though, the not so good part came later.

Funny side note: The not-so-hardened bar staff offered me a free condom upon departure because I left a tip. Nice gesture, or maybe the beginning of a new anti-STD policy?

Syzygies
09-07-13, 17:09
Perhaps, but I've had good encounters there before, for instance last year with a girl named Roong, yes, as in "Rainbow" (doesn't seem to work there anymore). My sample from R4 is just too small to generalize but from what I've read here as well, it may be true that you must be lucky to pull a good one there. And certainly many R4 girls have an attitude that puts me off. And they fail during small talk. The one I was referring to in my post seemed to be alright though, the not so good part came later.

Funny side note: The not-so-hardened bar staff offered me a free condom upon departure because I left a tip. Nice gesture, or maybe the beginning of a new anti-STD policy?I am impressed that you know Roong means "Rainbow". I suppose she told you.

I did get a nice girl LT from R4 once. Another time, I called over a hot looking dancer. Turned out she was off her head. Probably drugs. She was not very happy when I tried to get rid of her, but no way was going with a druggie. Have had a hot girl wanting quickie too. I think they have a broad range of girl types, but it is important to take time to get a good one.

Syzygies
09-07-13, 17:28
I don't think you have to use any ridiculous interview technique, you're bartering for a blowjob, not looking to hire her for project management at Microsoft. Just go off of body language. If she is smiling and feeling you up, flicking your ear with her tongue, and maybe shoving a teat in your face, you're golden.

If she has a look of either boredom or disgust, you might want to choose another girl or consider purchasing stronger underarm deodorantYeh. I don't think we have any prescribed interview technique. Its mostly small talk. I mainly ask the girl things that appeal to me at the time. Ask the girl about herself as most girls like to talk about themselves, but don't get too deeply personal, and keep it light hearted. Don't push on subjects that are not comfortable to her.

How long has she been in the bar? What did she used to do? Any children yet? How old is she? What district does she live in. Live with parents or not? Procedures in the bar? Are her customers mostly Farang or Japanese? Etc. From answers, you get other things to talk about. Could be her pet dog, or her daughter or whatever. Of course half the time I will be answering her questions. If girls ask too many mundane questions that I don't think they really want to know the answers to, it puts me off a little. The more natural the conversation, the better. Its a good idea to joke around a lot and so I try not to be very serious about anything. Girls tend to like customers that are a little bit funny at times.

Remember just that the idea is for both of you to have fun, if possible. So I am looking for fun girls, not purely business like girls. Can be good to buy a girl a couple of Tequilas to loosen her up, but be careful not to get her drunk. My aim is to get a girl that will enjoy her sex work perhaps more than what she expected to.

Yin Yang
09-07-13, 19:07
I am impressed that you know Roong means "Rainbow". I suppose she told you.Actually, I don't know anymore. I might have looked it up later though because coming to think of it, I would have reckoned she was taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of me."Rainbow" working at "Rainbow." Well, stage name anyway I guess.

Syzygies
09-07-13, 20:46
Actually, I don't know anymore. I might have looked it up later though because coming to think of it, I would have reckoned she was taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of me."Rainbow" working at "Rainbow." Well, stage name anyway I guess.No no. Rung is indeed a common (well not rare anyway) Thai nickname. Unlikely to be chosen at the bar but possible. My buddy caught the pox from a different Rung in Soi Cowboy.

MP girls use stage names more than bar girls, e.g. Ice, Jazz, Wine, Champagne, Nestle, Rose, View, Yumi, Yuki, Miki, etc. These are western words or Japanese names. Often the Thais cannot even pronounce them.

Rod Stew
09-08-13, 08:37
Day 1.

Landed BKK 10pm, met my wingman at Airport for my first trip to BKK. Exchanged about $200 (6100 Baht) at the port to get me started Ride from BKK to Soi Cowboy area was about 30 min by taxi. About 400 baht plus tolls.

Jasmine Executive suites was a quick checkin with an awesome view of Soi Cowboy. The hotel is literally 150 yards from one entrance to Soi Cowboy. I highly recommend at $81US per night for a one bedroom suite with and great corner bathroom with windows overlooking the city. The girls I have brought back love that bath!

Detailed nice report of some clean fun.I hope to travel with my side kick girl to Bangkok next week and looking for a foursome. Male for her and female for me. Any suggestion? Thank you if you can help.

Dextro Sol
09-08-13, 10:49
Tonight there is going to be a big meeting at Suzie Wong at 6 PM. All staff are called in by the big boss. There has been to much fighting among the girls lately and she want this to stop. So if you are interested to see all the girls working there you should be there by the time they open tonight at 7 PM.

Pointy Stick
09-08-13, 16:14
Back in BKK with a couple of mates late December and while I'm not keen on bar girls, I'm willing to give it another go, especially with a newbie to BKK with us. I prefer to know what I'm getting, with reviewed escorts that will ride your head off, cost doesn't worry me.

Anyway, I'm interested to hear "interview techniques" from the regular BKK guys. I don't see any examples in ROD etc. And think it would be good for all newbies.These chicks can be great actors and very manipulative if they've been in the game for a while. Maybe the interview turns out great but in the room they change up their attitude. I tend to go for who have just started p4p and treat them nicely. They're filled with a lot of uncertainty going with customers and when you-turn out not to be a douche they reciprocate. You won't get this with hardcore chicks.

ArcadiaEgo
09-08-13, 17:02
Thailand newb here.I am arriving in Bangkok on the 10th to begin a two week vacation in Thailand (splitting it up among Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Pattaya). I read through most of the threads in the Thailand forum and am planning on visiting NEP and Soi Cowboy per all of your suggestions. Are there any other places I should definitely hit up? Also, not having much experience doing this, are there any pitfalls that I should look out for as a solo punter?

Syzygies
09-08-13, 19:11
These chicks can be great actors and very manipulative if they've been in the game for a while. Maybe the interview turns out great but in the room they change up their attitude. I tend to go for who have just started p4p and treat them nicely. They're filled with a lot of uncertainty going with customers and when you-turn out not to be a douche they reciprocate. You won't get this with hardcore chicks.Does "hard-core" mean having long experience or nasty or jaded or what?

I think you generalise too much. Bow and Dtom at Suzie Wong have been bar girls for many years and very experienced. Dtom will admit that no one licks pussy in the lesbian show better than her. Both are lovely girls and always perform great GFE. Trully nice girls can remain really nice with nice customers, no matter how many years they have been doing it. Well worth taking both of these girls together if they are available. Neither has big tits. These girls are not actresses much with me. They understand well that I like them to be their normal selves and big bullshit is not necessary. They really have fun doing the lesbian stuff and are close friends and fuck buddies and so could be classified as semi-bi-sexuals. Lai is a big bullshit girl in the same bar, and I don't like her at all.

I think the attitude of girls is not that dependent on whether they are new or long term. Sure newbies are more unsure of how to act. Experienced girls can sum up the customer quicker. All of them can warm to the customer willing to make things "fun" rather than too serious.

I am sure other ISGers will know Bow and attest that she is one of the nicest bargirls you could meet despite being at SW on and off for 8 years perhaps. Experience gives them certain self confidence that they know how to do great BBBJ etc. Newbies sometimes aren't so good in technique.

Syzygies
09-08-13, 19:22
Tonight there is going to be a big meeting at Suzie Wong at 6 PM. All staff are called in by the big boss. There has been to much fighting among the girls lately and she want this to stop. So if you are interested to see all the girls working there you should be there by the time they open tonight at 7 PM.LOL Yes I had heard that Knot's younger sister had been off work for a while after some injury from a fight with another girl. Could have been some problems after Sheba and Suzi bars merged. The style of the 2 bars was a bit different.

Usually the problems stem from one girl accusing another girl of trying to steal her customer, as though there was any ownership. Of course the customers have other ideas and want to be free to pick any girl they feel like. So a small number of stupid girls can spoil the bar if they get too out of control. Of course they can be very drunk too. So after the odd incident from time to time, its wise for management to read the riot act. Any girl caught with Ice or Yaa Baa will be fired.

Wolvenvacht
09-08-13, 20:38
Thailand newb here.I am arriving in Bangkok on the 10th to begin a two week vacation in Thailand (splitting it up among Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Pattaya). I read through most of the threads in the Thailand forum and am planning on visiting NEP and Soi Cowboy per all of your suggestions. Are there any other places I should definitely hit up? Also, not having much experience doing this, are there any pitfalls that I should look out for as a solo punter?As a newb, give Patpong a wide berth: you are far too likely to get scammed and everything what is there can be found in NEP or Soi Cowboy too.

My personal favourite is Soi Cowboy which I find less a hassle than NEP. Also a lot less ladyboys in Soi Cowboy ("Cockatoo" excepted) than NEP. Do take a look in Baccara with its famous glass floor and hordes of Japanese spending their baht on the girls. Afterskool in Soi Cowboy is home of the "naughty boys corner" where BJs are given in semi-public, but watch out, the moment you walk in three or four bargirls will stalk you and ask for ladydrinks. Although I haven't been a victim of it, it pays to always check the bar-tabs they put in your bin. It has been reported that sometimes "alien" tabs find their home in your bin. Try to stay (more or less) sober during your hunts.

In my opinion, no visit to Bangkok can be called complete without a visit to Eden Club in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 and a sampling of their hallmark threesomes.

A soapy massage (such as Annies) or an oily massage (Sukhumvit Soi 23 has many, I tried Se Dang "Color Red", in front of the Citadines hotel) should be on your list as well.

The biggest "pitfall" you might wish to avoid is to fall in love with a Thai GF. I did so and haven't regretted it for one moment. ;)

Rjsss212
09-08-13, 21:07
Yeh. I don't think we have any prescribed interview technique.We?

You're averaging 11 posts a day and you are speaking for me now?

Why don't you give it a rest for a while.

RBDave
09-08-13, 23:53
The biggest "pitfall" you might wish to avoid is to fall in love with a Thai GF. I did so and haven't regretted it for one moment. ;)Nice! Yes, love is definitely possible and sometimes that's what is desired. Just be extra careful.

Pointy Stick
09-09-13, 02:31
Does "hard-core" mean having long experience or nasty or jaded or what?

I think you generalise too much. Bow and Dtom at Suzie Wong have been bar girls for many years and very experienced. Dtom will admit that no one licks pussy in the lesbian show better than her. Both are lovely girls and always perform great GFE. Trully nice girls can remain really nice with nice customers, no matter how many years they have been doing it. Well worth taking both of these girls together if they are available. Neither has big tits. These girls are not actresses much with me. They understand well that I like them to be their normal selves and big bullshit is not necessary. They really have fun doing the lesbian stuff and are close friends and fuck buddies and so could be classified as semi-bi-sexuals. Lai is a big bullshit girl in the same bar, and I don't like her at all.

I think the attitude of girls is not that dependent on whether they are new or long term. Sure newbies are more unsure of how to act. Experienced girls can sum up the customer quicker. All of them can warm to the customer willing to make things "fun" rather than too serious.

I am sure other ISGers will know Bow and attest that she is one of the nicest bargirls you could meet despite being at SW on and off for 8 years perhaps. Experience gives them certain self confidence that they know how to do great BBBJ etc. Newbies sometimes aren't so good in technique.I'd define hardcore as girls who have been psychologically effected by working in the business that they are unable to related to the opposite sex except for monetary gain.

Sure I am making generalisations but at the same time there are always exceptions to the rule which you seem to have found. If I want to fuck I'd rather have a newbie since I'm into GFE but as I'm also into BJ bars I'd rather have a chick who knows how to work a dick and she definately won't be a beginner.

Vittu
09-09-13, 02:46
Today's New York Times states Bangkok is "the most visited city in the world." So we are reaping the benefits of that demand.

Bunky
09-09-13, 14:56
Thailand newb here. Are there any pitfalls that I should look out for as a solo punter?I'm sure the other gents will weigh in here, but three things come to mind:

First, realize it will be overwhelming. Especially if you come from a place where the punter scene is underground. The secret is to get out of your own head and go with the flow. I'm not saying pick the first girl you meet. But lots of guys have a hard time pulling the trigger because over sensory overload.

Second, ignore the Price Police. Of course you should be careful with your money. But trying to save that last five percent is crazy. You're on holiday, for crying out loud.

Third, keep smiling. Nobody likes a sour puss who looks like he hates himself. If you appear to be having a good time, it's contagious with the girls.

Bunky

Scorchin
09-09-13, 15:06
I'm sure the other gents will weigh in here, but three things come to mind:Leave the sleeve-less T-shirt at home; in fact leave all your T-shirts at home along with your shorts and sandals. Dress smartly. No one likes a scruffy male, least of all Thai WGs.

Lmrzccgs3
09-09-13, 16:51
Leave the sleeve-less T-shirt at home; in fact leave all your T-shirts at home along with your shorts and sandals. Dress smartly. No one likes a scruffy male, least of all Thai WGs.Have a look at my post; 5-13-13 19:04.

Regrds

Syzygies
09-09-13, 17:43
Leave the sleeve-less T-shirt at home; in fact leave all your T-shirts at home along with your shorts and sandals. Dress smartly. No one likes a scruffy male, least of all Thai WGs.I agree no singlets, but unless you are going to gentleman's clubs, Farangs wearing sandals is quite normal. Maybe sneakers is more trendy for the Singapore set, but can be impractical. Sweaty socks equals stinky socks. Thais are wearing sandals or open shoes as well. Its often too hot for shoes and socks. Long pants may be better but shorts are acceptable in sticky weather, in certain circumstances. Shirts with a collar are better than t-shirt also.

But lets face it. There is no need to dress up to visit a dive like Tulip or a dive of a bar either. Wearing sandals and even shorts on rare occasions never had any effect on my mongering. Dress depending on what you are attending. Don't wear shorts to a temple.

To a disco or club, yes, dress up.

Syzygies
09-09-13, 17:49
We?

You're averaging 11 posts a day and you are speaking for me now?

Why don't you give it a rest for a while.What's eating you? By "we", I am not speaking for you. I am talking about experienced bar goers in general.

I merely indicate that picking a bar girl is a relaxed affair and not like an "Interview" at all.

Syzygies
09-09-13, 18:12
back to soi cowboy and suzie wongs with wingman and nok in tow. i look around and ask to see some of the ones that i have had previous. almost all of them were off that day. darn i wanted to take pam or koh. i see a 19 yr old on the stage and wave her over. her name was not. really small and pretty new to the game i found out the hard way. we did settle on a price and activities and we were off to have a few drinks in my wingman's room. we played some games. strip coin flip and beer pong again to give out the remaining panties. both not and nok were very shy until the drinks started kicking in. unfortunately i was on of the first ones down to my birthday suit and when it came for the girls time to take the last article of clothing off they both chickened out! damn. i really wanted to see wingman's girls. she was hot and had a great peronality. my girl on the other hand i could see that she was so new and sooooo shy that it was going to be a struggle to get her to get comfortable. so we all decide around 2am to head to our respective rooms. back in the room not took a shower and i followed her in. she looked a bit confused but i washed her down. she did not do me the same. warning. warning. on the bed started daty and then popped up for air. she was so small and tight that i had trouble in even with some lube. so after some very slow entries we were off. needless to say i could not go to deep since she was grimacing for much of the deed. so i flip her on her side and enter from the side. she said a little better and at that point i said "fuck it" so i start thrusts to match her backing up and she screamed a few times and i blow a load on her ass.

day 6.

not was up early and was stalling in the shower. so when she came back i cut my loses and told her to go home. gave her the agreed fee but said "you might want to try a new job" that night i told mamasan at suzy wongs that not needs guidance or she is going to get a not so nice guy that will find her timid refusals once in the room to be a major issue after agreeing to do certain things inside the bar."not" is no newbie. she has been working the bar for at least a year. one of my favourite girls. probably have done her at least 8 times. she is known to be rather tight (although not as tight as dtom) , especially if she has been off work for a few days and no recent fucking. this means you have to take it very soft and slow at the start, beginning with only a little penetration, until her insides get time to stretch out, and use plenty of lube. even once sex gets going, she still does not like to be pounded. sensual slow sex (my style). she is a bit shy (without a few drinks) but not so much with me as we have screwed many times and mostly with two girls at a time. she has a baby already. started young. she really likes good daty and a good gentle screw. gets quite passionate with the kissing with me, and can tell from her body movements she is really getting into it. sometimes orgasmic. whenever she sees me she will always charge over to me and very keen to go for nice sex session and is okay with double girls if she knows the other girl reasonably well. i normally don't take long time when taking two girls. not a lesbian by any means though. she much prefers guys. she has an okay bbbj but not outstanding. some other girls are better for bbbj.

not is known to be very slow in shower and in general preparation for a sex session and sometimes seems to need to go [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) often. this happens with girls drinking too much and very tiny bladder.

yes "not" is timid, but doesn't prevent her being a very nice tight fitting screw, if approached the right way. she dances totally nude on stage, but is a little shy about it. certainly no porn star so doesn't do anal, cim etc. i'm sure. for porn stars, go to tulip, snow white, etc.

mamasan (well one of the several) should have a few clues about what sort of guys not is suited to. girls will often gossip about how their customers were too.

Kkreeac
09-09-13, 19:15
Good evening Gents,

I was wondering if you guys could help me out. I'll be in BKK week. I have already done the masssage and gogo bar scene. And thoroughly enjoyed it. Will most certainly be revisiting that side. But I was just wondering if there were any conventional stripclubs in BKK, where one can go and have a drink, then get a private dance for a 4 minute song at a set price. Like a stripclub in north America, and some places in Europe.

For those who are going to tell me that I'm wasting money or to just pick up a girl and have her do that in my room and telling me to just get a bar girl to do that for me in a bar. Thanks, but somtimes I just want to have a seductive girl grinding her but on my groin in a club for a couple of songs.

Are there any clubs in Bangkok with this glorious Modis operandi?

Thanks a ton guys.

I'll be sure to report.

My best,

Kkreeac

RockHound74
09-09-13, 20:03
Thanks for the insight. We did have a few drinks but I think she was just not into me. It is what it is. No biggie.

I had so much fun this month that I am already signed up to go back in Nov.

Rock


"Not" is no newbie. She has been working the bar for at least a year. One of my favourite girls. Probably have done her at least 8 times. She is known to be rather tight (although not as tight as Dtom) , especially if she has been off work for a few days and no recent fucking. This means you have to take it very soft and slow at the start, beginning with only a little penetration, until her insides get time to stretch out, and use plenty of lube. Even once sex gets going, she still does not like to be pounded. Sensual slow sex (my style). She is a bit shy (without a few drinks) but not so much with me as we have screwed many times and mostly with two girls at a time. She has a baby already. Started young. She really likes good DATY and a good gentle screw. Gets quite passionate with the kissing with me, and can tell from her body movements she is really getting into it. Sometimes orgasmic. Whenever she sees me she will always charge over to me and very keen to go for nice sex session and is okay with double girls if she knows the other girl reasonably well. I normally don't take long time when taking two girls. Not a lesbian by any means though. She much prefers guys...

RockHound74
09-09-13, 20:07
The female will not be a problem. A male might not be if you find a foreigner that might be into that kind of thing.

Good luck,

Rock


I hope to travel with my side kick girl to Bangkok next week and looking for a foursome. Male for her and female for me. Any suggestion? Thank you if you can help.

Syzygies
09-10-13, 02:55
Good evening Gents,

I was wondering if you guys could help me out. I'll be in BKK week. I have already done the masssage and gogo bar scene. And thoroughly enjoyed it. Will most certainly be revisiting that side. But I was just wondering if there were any conventional stripclubs in BKK, where one can go and have a drink, then get a private dance for a 4 minute song at a set price. Like a stripclub in north America, and some places in Europe.

KkreeacI think plain strip clubs died out in Thailand many years ago. Crazy House in Sukhumvit Soi 23 close to Cowboy has personal / lap dances. You will have to work out the time / price. I don't know. There are girls dancing nude and walking around nude in this bar. Hope that isn't going to spoil the excitement. LOL Other bars have sexy shows where girl sort of strip but are usually not wearing that much from the start. Those are not so much private strips. Certainly you can pay girls to go back to your room and do a private strip there. Hope you don't need burlesque music as well.

RockHound74
09-10-13, 22:51
I am shocked. If I were you and in your predicament, I would over pay (10000 baht) the bar girl to put her closes back on, have her dance on my lap, have her order 10 lady drinks and then kick me in the groin.

Then You and I would feel like we were back home in the North America. That should do the trick.

Rock


Good evening Gents,

I was wondering if you guys could help me out. I'll be in BKK week. I have already done the masssage and gogo bar scene. And thoroughly enjoyed it. Will most certainly be revisiting that side. But I was just wondering if there were any conventional stripclubs in BKK, where one can go and have a drink, then get a private dance for a 4 minute song at a set price. Like a stripclub in north America, and some places in Europe.

For those who are going to tell me that I'm wasting money or to just pick up a girl and have her do that in my room and telling me to just get a bar girl to do that for me in a bar. Thanks, but somtimes I just want to have a seductive girl grinding her but on my groin in a club for a couple of songs.

Are there any clubs in Bangkok with this glorious Modis operandi?

Thanks a ton guys.

I'll be sure to report.

My best,

Kkreeac

Redfield10
09-11-13, 00:05
Hi,

I use Androgel in the US. (For those that don't know it's testosterone replacement therapy. Is there any place in BKK or Pattaya that sells it? Do you need a subscription or can you just go to a pharmacy that has it. Am thinking about living in Thailand part of the year now and am wondering if its available as I medically need it.

Thanks

Jgm005
09-11-13, 02:11
You can buy the gel capsules over the counter in a pharmacy. I do not know if all do but KS Pharmacy Sukhumvit / Soi 17 sells it. The patches, so far as I know, are controlled.


Hi,

I use Androgel in the US. (For those that don't know it's testosterone replacement therapy. Is there any place in BKK or Pattaya that sells it? Do you need a subscription or can you just go to a pharmacy that has it. Am thinking about living in Thailand part of the year now and am wondering if its available as I medically need it. Thanks.

NeverJerkOff
09-11-13, 03:02
Snuck over there last night. Only 10th time at the disco's, living the normal life here. Some pig blew me in the middle of a crowded dance floor. That was a first and didn't get much attention. Major turn off. Ditched her soon as she came up for air muttering short time hotel. A sexy office girl with a nice car came through at 3 in the morning who I went home with. Good tight wet pussy and above expectations dick sucking. Overpaid my norm but underpaid the norm.

Redfield10
09-11-13, 05:53
Thanks,

I assume a perscription for the pump or packets of gel are not hard to get? Or even the shots?

Anyone know?


You can buy the gel capsules over the counter in a pharmacy. I do not know if all do but KS Pharmacy Sukhumvit / Soi 17 sells it. The patches, so far as I know, are controlled.

ArcadiaEgo
09-11-13, 09:34
Thanks for the advice fellas. I got into Bangkok at 1AM yesterday and didn't want to mess with freelancers or finding my way to Insomnia so I opted for an escort agency instead. A bit pricey for 10 hours but as Bunky said, it's a vacation. And holy crap was the service amazing compared to what I'm used to (Okinawa).

Tonight will be my first trek to Nana. Depending on the vibe when I get there, I may go to Cowboy instead. Wish me luck.

Tifftiff
09-11-13, 09:44
Anybody know if the short time hotels. Star Inn and New World Inn are still open for business on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1.

Its been a a few years since my last visit to Bangkok and I always used these hotels for my early morning activities.

Thanks in advance for any help.

DRRonin
09-11-13, 11:55
Leave the sleeve-less T-shirt at home; in fact leave all your T-shirts at home along with your shorts and sandals. Dress smartly. No one likes a scruffy male, least of all Thai WGs.If dressing up for you works, great but honestly the whole concept of TWG's looking down on you for dressing in t-shirts and shorts is a myth unless you are at a high end club or disco. I am not a great dresser. I admit it. T-shirt and shorts 95% of the time. It's not a problem in any go-go or beer bar or discos like Climax. Now scruffy in the sense that you haven't shaved or showered in a couple of days would probably be true. It's a lot more likely that some Farangs will give you a superior look than Thai WG's who really are looking for money and a decent attitude and not much more.

DRRonin
09-11-13, 12:31
Thailand newb here.I am arriving in Bangkok on the 10th to begin a two week vacation in Thailand (splitting it up among Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Pattaya). I read through most of the threads in the Thailand forum and am planning on visiting NEP and Soi Cowboy per all of your suggestions. Are there any other places I should definitely hit up? Also, not having much experience doing this, are there any pitfalls that I should look out for as a solo punter?I think if you have the basic information of where to go and what to expect and what the range of prices is you can't go very wrong.

Watch out for ladyboys on the street and in the gogos. I know of so many guys that just have no ladyboy radar at all. If the voice sounds like a cat who has been strangled stay away, unless that is what you want of course.

I think when I first started coming here my main problem was just too many choices and having such a hard time making up my mind and often the night would fly by and I would end up taking something only ok at 4 in the morning.

It doesn't happen as much any more because most girls are in such a rush to get to the next customer but again when I first came here I was easily maneuvered thru guilt into taking the same girl a bunch of times when I didn't really want to or just having the girl stay on and not leave. On your first trip you should see a lot of different girls and not feel in any way obliged for a return visit.

Don't expect the Moon and the Stars sexually. Thai girls in general are not that great in bed at least compared to other ethnic types I have been with. I am not very good at making clear with the girl as to what I want before getting back to my room. I just go with it but if certain sexual items are really important to you beyond basic boom-boom you might be best served asking the girl if she is willing. A lot of Thai girls, esp. The young ones are not keen on much outside of that box.

If you visit the gogo's utilize the mamasans. It took me a long time to finally cave in to this reality. I always liked making some kind of personal contact with the girl rather than just telling the mamasan to bring over a number for a drink. The girls esp in the larger bars just don't look at customers and even if you think you have made eye contact chances are she was thinking about her next meal and her eyes wandered. Just talk to the mamasan and a lot of time and frustration will be saved. But this obligates you to nothing other than a drink. If there is no chemistry, just say thank you and move on to another bar or another girl. Always remember this is a business, for them and it should be for you. As the other poster said, don't fall in love. It's so easy to do on the first trip or so. And forever afterwards. After being back home, these girls can seem so sweet and tender and fun and gentle. And many of them are. But it's still a business to them and their job is to take every baht they can from you and get you to buy them and their friends as many drinks as they can. It is what is expected of them.

Basically go with the flow. Don't get upset at anything. If the sex sucks move on. If you feel overcharged by a girl or a tuk-tuk driver just move on. If a girl promises she will show up at your hotel and doesn't, move on. I see so many guys getting pissed off at the little stuff. It isn't worth it.

The only other place I would add to perhaps visit is Climax Disco on Soi 11 at the Ambassador Hotel. This is basically if all the other stuff is closed and you still seek some companionship. Climax is open till 5am with loads of women 25 years old and up for the most part. And it's different than gogos and beer bars which is nice sometimes.

Btbtbt68
09-11-13, 22:01
Is it possible to have a couple having a private sex show for me while I film them?

If it is, what is the best way to achieve the couple and their consent? How and where do you recommend I should try it?

If it is too hard Is it possible to film a show in one of the clubs (for money)?

I hope I'll live to tell this forum how it was.

NeverJerkOff
09-12-13, 00:25
Thai girls in general are not that great in bed at least compared to other ethnic types I have been with.Has not been my experience. What type of ethic types might that be?

Somewhere15
09-12-13, 01:08
Snuck over there last night. Only 10th time at the disco's, living the normal life here. Some pig blew me in the middle of a crowded dance floor. That was a first and didn't get much attention. Major turn off. Ditched her soon as she came up for air muttering short time hotel. A sexy office girl with a nice car came through at 3 in the morning who I went home with. Good tight wet pussy and above expectations dick sucking. Overpaid my norm but underpaid the norm.Good for you!

One question: did you go to her home or do you mean: you took her to your home.

If you can collaborated a little more, please feel free to share.

Thanks

Member #4351
09-12-13, 02:01
Or even the shots?No prescription necessary. The large drugstore between Soi Nana and the Marriott, last one before Marriott with Chinese owners, has excellent prices on 20 Amp. boxes of Testoviron Depot by Bayer. Really reasonable prices. When I was last there, the box of 20 cost 3000 baht. I stock up every trip. Not sure about the gel since its cheap where I live but if its available I'm sure they will have it. They even stock Winstrol Depot.

Rjsss212
09-12-13, 02:14
No prescription necessary. The large drugstore between Soi Nana and the Marriott, last one before Marriott with Chinese owners, has excellent prices.A most excellent drugstore. Next door to Bullys pub.

https://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&channel=suggest&ie=UTF-8&q=Bully's+Pub&fb=1&gl=us&hq=bully+pub+BKK&cid=0, 0.8861935586298344761&ei=xxQxUr7DMqvi4APw7YCgCQ&ved=0CIcBEPwSMAs

ArcadiaEgo
09-12-13, 02:54
I got to NEP during a downpour. Snuck into Big Dog's, had a beer and found the scenary a bit lacking. Knowing that Rainbow 4 was the club with the most dancers on stage, I headed there for better pickings. The usher girls found me a seat next to the clothed platform (only seat available in the house) where I watched a bunch of girls on stage, well, I guess one could call that dancing.

Around 11pm, one of the girls caught my eye. Really pretty face, tall / slim physique. I called her over, bought her a drink and found out within the first thirty seconds that ST was going to be 4500 with no LT option. Thanks but no thanks and taking the advice from some of your posts, moved on without blinking. The way she kind of stormed off without even taking a sip from her drink, maybe I came off as too business-like but who gives a shit.

I proceeded to sit there for another hour and a half just enjoying the scenary and drinking. The usher girls would hassle me to call someone over every once in a while. Just to get in good with the staff, I bought one of them a drink as well as one for the mama-san. They were pretty useful sources of information. For example, the usher girl insinuated to me that the reason why my first girl didn't offer LT was that she was not allowed to. But since it was past 12 now, the girls would field LT proposals (any truth to this?)

Mama-san recommended me a short girl with big fake tits. I was a few beers in at the time so I said why not. Found out LT was going to be 5000, talked down from 6000. She was also saying LT for her was 5am, at which I told her 9am or nothing.

In the end, it was 1am and I was horny so I went with it. The downpour outside had created pools of water about ankle deep and in my semi-drunken stupor, I decided to walk back to the Majestic Grande instead of cabbing it. Slight mistake as my shoes are now completely soaked in dirty Thai street water. The girl did seem to appreciate me carrying her over the puddles.

The experience with the girl wasn't much to write about. Initially she seemed more interested in watching the TV and looking at her iPhone than getting something started. I laid it out there and then. Said she could leave if she wanted but best give me my money back at which she seemed to come to her senses. I'd have to chalk her attitude up to her age, as she was only 21 and probably tired from the zombie-like dancing she was having to do all night.

DATY. 69, missionary, doggy style, cowgirl, etc. Tits were fake but looked nice. Slept, woke up, banged her out again before heading out. Like I said, nothing to write about except my wet pair of shoes. I'll do it again tonight. Since I started a sort of rapport with the Mama and the ushers at Rainbow 4, I'll probably start there again.

Another thing, why don't these girls bring their own toothbrushes? Sheesh.

DRRonin
09-12-13, 03:53
Has not been my experience. What type of ethic types might that be?Other's experiences may differ but for me 80% of Thai women sort of fall in the ok range sexually, not bad but rarely great. 10% are great. 10% are terrible. There is also some correlation between skills and age in Thailand. The 10% terrible ones are generally on the young side. On the other hand my experiences with Latinas, Brazillianas, Eastern Europeans and black women is a much higher percentage in the great category. I think sex is just a much more important part of the cultures of these groups with them starting at an early age and learning how to please a man, as well as enjoying it themselves. I just don't think this is the case for Thai women and it shows up in their sexual abilities and needs.

NeverJerkOff
09-12-13, 04:37
Good for you!

One question: did you go to her home or do you mean: you took her to your home.

If you can collaborated a little more, please feel free to share.

ThanksTook her to my place. Saving on the 100 baht taxi fare was nice and hitched a ride form her afterwards. I warned her I have a small room which does not bother 99% of Thai girls. Only two high class gold diggers that I met in different circles were "too good" for this and didn't give it up when they saw my living arrangements. Usually it works to my advantage as Thai girls can relate to me and are not impressed with fancy dining and hotels. Even many high earning girls have rooms like me or slightly better because they spend their money on everything else.

NeverJerkOff
09-12-13, 04:50
Other's experiences may differ but for me 80% of Thai women sort of fall in the ok range sexually, not bad but rarely great. 10% are great. 10% are terrible. There is also some correlation between skills and age in Thailand. The 10% terrible ones are generally on the young side. On the other hand my experiences with Latinas, Brazillianas, Eastern Europeans and black women is a much higher percentage in the great category. I think sex is just a much more important part of the cultures of these groups with them starting at an early age and learning how to please a man, as well as enjoying it themselves. I just don't think this is the case for Thai women and it shows up in their sexual abilities and needs.Well I think we can all agree Thai women give the best massages. I think that service oriented attitude passes on to sex. True age has a huge part in it. My only bad sex here has been in the 18 to 23 year old demographic but even that is rare. I'm no expert but seems like they ride dick as good as any ethnic group and are more into rimming then other cultures. Doggie style might not be as embraced as much as other cultures but they never object and the dick sucking is always average to above average.

Syzygies
09-12-13, 09:06
Other's experiences may differ but for me 80% of Thai women sort of fall in the ok range sexually, not bad but rarely great. 10% are great. 10% are terrible. There is also some correlation between skills and age in Thailand. The 10% terrible ones are generally on the young side. On the other hand my experiences with Latinas, Brazillianas, Eastern Europeans and black women is a much higher percentage in the great category. I think sex is just a much more important part of the cultures of these groups with them starting at an early age and learning how to please a man, as well as enjoying it themselves. I just don't think this is the case for Thai women and it shows up in their sexual abilities and needs.DR,

I think you have got this pretty right. The blacks and Latinas are the most reliably good at sex, Thais are mid range, and Farangs are a lot worse amongst sex workers in my home country but a much improved from east Europe. I think the percentage of farangs and Thais that are terrible may be a bit more than 10. Super Thai girls yes 10% seems about okay

I am agreeing much less with N-Jerkoffs subsequent comments. E. G. I don't think such a high percentage of Thais give great BBBJs, and massages doesn't seem relevant. I don't agree that older Thai women are always better. I think attitude and just a reasonable experience is important, but age not so much.

NeverJerkOff
09-12-13, 09:42
DR,

I think you have got this pretty right. The blacks and Latinas are the most reliably good at sex, Thais are mid range, and Farangs are a lot worse amongst sex workers in my home country but a much improved from east Europe. I think the percentage of farangs and Thais that are terrible may be a bit more than 10. Super Thai girls yes 10% seems about okay

I am agreeing much less with N-Jerkoffs subsequent comments. E. G. I don't think such a high percentage of Thais give great BBBJs, and massages doesn't seem relevant. I don't agree that older Thai women are always better. I think attitude and just a reasonable experience is important, but age not so much.Black and Latina chicks are freaks but they have worse attitudes, especially black chicks. I went through 50 Latina sex workers in one month that mostly pushed hard for covered blow job and no tongue kissing. I always get DFK and BBBJ here. To say age isn't a factor is ignorant. The same girl is going to fuck and suck better at 28 then 18. And trust me Thai girl's can suck dick. Whether you or the Thai boyfriend are getting it, they are fully capable. That's why chemistry is everything but I will give the average Black and Latina a small edge in technique.

DRRonin
09-12-13, 10:48
Well I think we can all agree Thai women give the best massages. I think that service oriented attitude passes on to sex. True age has a huge part in it. My only bad sex here has been in the 18 to 23 year old demographic but even that is rare. I'm no expert but seems like they ride dick as good as any ethnic group and are more into rimming then other cultures. Doggie style might not be as embraced as much as other cultures but they never object and the dick sucking is always average to above average.Ya, everyone's experiences will be different. But for me once I started going to Brazil (before it got too expensive) and the Dominican Republic (before the crackdowns started) I pretty much forgot about Thailand for a bunch of years. I remember feeling like I had never really experienced real sex till then. It was so uninhibited and raw. Again this was after a lifetime of North American sex and a few years of Thai sex vacations. I recall one vacation in which I decided to come to Thailand after a few years away and after 3 days I found the sex so middling and predictable that I booked myself back to the states and took a plane the next day to the DR. And was glad I did. It was in the DR that I discovered the joy of multiple girls wriggling around on your bed and getting porn like crazy that you will rarely find with Thai girls. Now this was back in the mid-90's till the mid 2000's and in defense of Thai girls while I was gone the new generation is much better sexually than their mothers but they are still a long ways from Latinas.

The old saying about it being in their blood is true. Latinas like sex. I often wonder how many Thai women really do or whether they are just following the dots of what they think they should do. In Thailand the sex usually goes like this, come into the room, take shower, a few minutes perhaps of kissing and oral and then boom boom till you finish or they get tired or sore. In the DR it was come into the room, fall onto the bed, start kissing like crazy, she pulls down your pants and starts sucking, eventually her clothes come off and lots more oral going both ways and then boom boom till you felt your heart was going to explode. So why do I live in Thailand one might ask? Because I like Thailand and Thai girls a lot and could never see myself living in those other countries for a bunch of reasons. And with a little digging and hard work you can find girls here that are great in bed. Then you just have to hope they stay in the scene for a while before being whisked away.

DRRonin
09-12-13, 10:58
DR,

I think you have got this pretty right. The blacks and Latinas are the most reliably good at sex, Thais are mid range, and Farangs are a lot worse amongst sex workers in my home country but a much improved from east Europe. I think the percentage of farangs and Thais that are terrible may be a bit more than 10. Super Thai girls yes 10% seems about okay

I am agreeing much less with N-Jerkoffs subsequent comments. E. G. I don't think such a high percentage of Thais give great BBBJs, and massages doesn't seem relevant. I don't agree that older Thai women are always better. I think attitude and just a reasonable experience is important, but age not so much.You are probably correct about the pct of terrible is higher than 10% but I think once you have been here a while you learn to know how to avoid the really bad ones with an instinct that you gather. And BJ's? I could probably count on my hands and fingers the number of girls over 20 years that have given me great BJ's in Thailand. Again it's not really a part of their culture and they often go thru the motions but with little passion. Comparing a Thai BJ to a Latina BJ is like comparing a Honda to a Mercedes. The Honda is serviceable but rarely memorable.

I have actually had little experience with Eastern Europeans, just a handful of out call girls in London and I have to say they were great. Maybe I got lucky.

Nullnull
09-12-13, 11:11
There is no rule without exception. Generally young Thai girls may be a bit boring but I've had the best fuck of my life with a 19yo Thai girl. Nothing raunchy about this session just an unstoppable desire for each other and multiple pops without needing any help from Vitamin V. Her body was just fitting perfectly and she made me hard again without long breaks after cumming.

Statistically I'd say out of the best 10 experiences 5 were with young Asian (thai and Chinese) women, the rest were a mix of Blacks, Latinas and Europeans. Maybe it's just my imagination because the Asian features always turn me on.

Member #4698
09-12-13, 14:55
So why do I live in Thailand one might ask? Because I like Thailand and Thai girls a lot and could never see myself living in those other countries for a bunch of reasons.That is it in a nutshell. Plus I think Thai girls are generally better looking than the girls you find in the DR or CR. Colombia and Brazil have plenty of stunners, that's for sure, but like you, I would not want to live in those places. IMO Thai girls are nicer and Thailand is much safer. Buddha is good. I like Filipinas and Indonesians a lot too, but I wouldn't want to live in those countries either. So Thailand wins overall by default. It has it problems and knocks, but it is just more comfortable here. That said, I must add that I wouldn't want to live on a diet of Thai girls only. For me, it is necessary to travel and mix it up. Fortunately Phnom Penh is 40 minutes away from BKK and AC, Macau, and Jakarta are all around 3 hours away. It has been almost 10 years since I was last in Rio and São Paulo. Time maybe to go back and see how things have changed. I will never go back to the DR. It is over as far as I am concerned. Same with Costa Rica.

Streetwalker7
09-12-13, 20:07
I got to NEP during a downpour. Snuck into Big Dog's, had a beer and found the scenary a bit lacking. Knowing that Rainbow 4 was the club with the most dancers on stage, I headed there for better pickings. The usher girls found me a seat next to the clothed platform (only seat available in the house) where I watched a bunch of girls on stage, well, I guess one could call that dancing.

Around 11pm, one of the girls caught my eye. Really pretty face, tall / slim physique. I called her over, bought her a drink and found out within the first thirty seconds that ST was going to be 4500 with no LT option. Thanks but no thanks and taking the advice from some of your posts, moved on without blinking. The way she kind of stormed off without even taking a sip from her drink, maybe I came off as too business-like but who gives a shit.

I proceeded to sit there for another hour and a half just enjoying the scenary and drinking. The usher girls would hassle me to call someone over every once in a while. Just to get in good with the staff, I bought one of them a drink as well as one for the mama-san. They were pretty useful sources of information. For example, the usher girl insinuated to me that the reason why my first girl didn't offer LT was that she was not allowed to. But since it was past 12 now, the girls would field LT proposals (any truth to this?)

Mama-san recommended me a short girl with big fake tits. I was a few beers in at the time so I said why not. Found out LT was going to be 5000, talked down from 6000. She was also saying LT for her was 5am, at which I told her 9am or nothing.

In the end, it was 1am and I was horny so I went with it. The downpour outside had created pools of water about ankle deep and in my semi-drunken stupor, I decided to walk back to the Majestic Grande instead of cabbing it. Slight mistake as my shoes are now completely soaked in dirty Thai street water. The girl did seem to appreciate me carrying her over the puddles.

The experience with the girl wasn't much to write about. Initially she seemed more interested in watching the TV and looking at her iPhone than getting something started. I laid it out there and then. Said she could leave if she wanted but best give me my money back at which she seemed to come to her senses. I'd have to chalk her attitude up to her age, as she was only 21 and probably tired from the zombie-like dancing she was having to do all night.

DATY. 69, missionary, doggy style, cowgirl, etc. Tits were fake but looked nice. Slept, woke up, banged her out again before heading out. Like I said, nothing to write about except my wet pair of shoes. I'll do it again tonight. Since I started a sort of rapport with the Mama and the ushers at Rainbow 4, I'll probably start there again.

Another thing, why don't these girls bring their own toothbrushes? Sheesh.Another ringing endorsement for Rain4 girls. LOL. Good to hear other fuys experiences. Ill be back next week.

5am ending long time at Rain. 4 is the norm.

Somewhere15
09-12-13, 22:33
Took her to my place. Saving on the 100 baht taxi fare was nice and hitched a ride form her afterwards. I warned her I have a small room which does not bother 99% of Thai girls. Only two high class gold diggers that I met in different circles were "too good" for this and didn't give it up when they saw my living arrangements. Usually it works to my advantage as Thai girls can relate to me and are not impressed with fancy dining and hotels. Even many high earning girls have rooms like me or slightly better because they spend their money on everything else.How much did you paid the girl and how long did she stayed with you?

Btbtbt68
09-12-13, 22:37
Is it possible to have a couple having a private sex show for me while I film them?

If it is, what is the best way to achieve the couple and their consent? How and where do you recommend I should try it?

If it is too hard Is it possible to film a show in one of the clubs (for money)?

I hope I'll live to tell this forum how it was.Is this the right forum to ask this question?

DRRonin
09-12-13, 23:38
I went through 50 Latina sex workers in one month that mostly pushed hard for covered blow job and no tongue kissing.Curious as to where this was? That certainly was not the norm in the DR or Brazil unless things have changed drastically.

Paul Kausch
09-13-13, 00:16
For the sake of discussion, I'm going to propose a somewhat different idea.

Cultural attitudes towards sex vary, which affects sexual performance, but as far as P4P is concerned the biggest factor is the size of the local sex industry. It boils down to a numbers game: if there are a lot of SW, the absolute number of good ones will be greater. The key is figuring out who are the good ones, hence the value of ISG. Of course it helps to be a regular, which is the big advantage guys living in or visiting Bangkok several times a year have.

I f*cked my first prostitute when I was 17 and have monger all over the world ever since (I'm now in my early 60's.) Personally, I've had some mediocre sex everywhere I've been as well as some great sex; and I can't say the great sex in one city has been any better than the great sex in any other city in a different country. I think Bangkok is a great city for finding great sex. I think Salt Lake City, Utah, USA is a lousy place to find great sex. Similarly, Chiang Mai is not a great mongers' destination, while I've had great sex in many cities in the USA.

Local knowledge helps. For example, I've found that in San Francisco the Asian MPs have better staff than the MPs with Eastern European girls. In Miami, Florida my personal experience is that the black strippers at the clubs are my best bets for great sex. The black ladies (African-American and from English speaking islands) tend to zero in on the black guys and the Anglo-white guys. They do this because they know the Latin guys (who make up 70% of the population) tend to prefer Latin girls. As soon as they hear I living in Miami, they're eager to win me over as a regular client. I see one or two of them at a time outside the clubs for some great sex. While the Latin girls are happy to have me as a customer, many of them speak little or no English and prefer a Latin man who speaks their language. Similarly, speaking a little or a lot of Thai helps with the girls in Bangkok.

To keep things simple I'm going to skip over variations in attitudes toward skin tone among Latins, which is a complicated topic.

Another important factor is whether the SW are familiar with the sex customs of the clients. DFK is not a sexual custom in Thailand and you will often hear or read complaints about Thai girls being poor at or refusing DFK, but I've been with Thai escorts who were very skilled at DFK. My experiences are a-level tends to be a special service with Thai girls, but common with a Latin girls. As a teen and young adult growing up around a lot of Latin girls I learned they would often refuse vaginal sex but where very happy to let me f*ck their ass while they played with their clit. They told me that was so they could keep their virginity. LOL.

TConor
09-13-13, 01:19
My experiences are a-level tends to be a special service with Thai girls, but common with a Latin girls. As a teen and young adult growing up around a lot of Latin girls I learned they would often refuse vaginal sex but where very happy to let me f*ck their ass while they played with their clit. They told me that was so they could keep their virginity. LOL.I met Colombian and Cuban girls who expressed this exact thing, also a Catholic thing with them.

Mackin
09-13-13, 02:20
After arriving in BKK and waiting on the tarmack for 1 hour to get a gate finally arrived in town. Long flights require a massage so went looking for what I could find. It was 3 AM and a lot of rain had fallen so not much going on. Stopped by BASH on my travels and it was not happening. Tried Climax and not much there. In my wondering went to the arcade of the ambassador hotel. Here I found a cute little thing offering a massage. Just what looking for. Cute face and body was good. Got the massage which just ok. Light movement over the body with the hands just doesn't do it for me. Went the FS direction and the BJ was covered. Should have asked first. Nothing special there. The FS was good enough to release the tension but nothing more. She said she was 28 but only work in business for 5 months. She needs more training as she could do well as the body and face are very passable.

Tomorrow will get into more detailed report of last night adventure.

BionicMan
09-13-13, 03:55
Is this the right forum to ask this question?My personal opinion is that the forum is correct, but the country isn't. Thai, apart some exceptions and these are not so visible, are not much into kinky sex. Will be tough to find something in the P4P world. Maybe some high end escort (as long as she doesn't double the work from a gogo) used to cater to western and doing some porn movies too.

NeverJerkOff
09-13-13, 04:21
How much did you paid the girl and how long did she stayed with you?Always prepared to pay them less, I told her no more then 1500 for 2 shots and she accepted. Time was irrelevant to me. If she can get 2 nuts out of me quick she deserve every baht. I realize there is a lot of good Thai vagina in that price bracket but she carried herself a lot better then what I see out there and can understand the fascination with office girls. She was exactly what I wanted her to be; a sexy, slutty, professional. The hottest girl to ever gag on my cock and taking my load to the face right before going to work was money well spent if it was the last 1500 to my name. Couldn't even fit my finger in her asshole so anal was out the question.

NeverJerkOff
09-13-13, 04:25
Curious as to where this was? That certainly was not the norm in the DR or Brazil unless things have changed drastically.My first international mongering. Caribbean brothels, mostly lesser Antilles. I take it not the best sample audience. Yeah I'm young and don't have the most experiences under my belt but the Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Mexican girl's I banged in my home country were no sweethearts either.

Paul Kausch
09-13-13, 04:50
Is it possible to have a couple having a private sex show for me while I film them?

If it is, what is the best way to achieve the couple and their consent? How and where do you recommend I should try it?

If it is too hard Is it possible to film a show in one of the clubs (for money)?

I hope I'll live to tell this forum how it was.
Thai, apart some exceptions and these are not so visible, are not much into kinky sex. Will be tough to find something in the P4P world. Maybe some high end escort (as long as she doesn't double the work from a gogo) used to cater to western and doing some porn movies too.I think Thai sex workers would fear that the video would be distributed and that they as the actors could be prosecuted under Thailand's anti-pornography laws. Kesarin Chaichalermpol aka Nat Chanapa made a porn video a few years ago that became an internet hit. She was arrested and prosecuted. I believe she was found guilty and in the end received a slight slap on the wrist. Still this was a conspicuous scandal at the time. Kesarin was a professional model before the incident which may have made her more visible, thus a good target. Of course after her arrest she became a successful advertising model landing gigs that paid six figure.

A person of no notoriety may feel more anonymous and less vulnerable. Perhaps you could enlist a fellow monger whose into exhibitionism as a co-conspirator. The two of you could pick up a freelancer and tell her you're going to make her into a movie star! Venetian masks could be used to add some flare and hide identities. Anyone interested in volunteering?

BionicMan
09-13-13, 05:22
I think Thai sex workers would fear that the video would be distributed and that they as the actors could be prosecuted under Thailand's anti-pornography laws. Kesarin Chaichalermpol aka Nat Chanapa made a porn video a few years ago that became an internet hit. She was arrested and prosecuted. I believe she was found guilty and in the end received a slight slap on the wrist. Still this was a conspicuous scandal at the time. Kesarin was a professional model before the incident which may have made her more visible, thus a good target. Of course after her arrest she became a successful advertising model landing gigs that paid six figure.A very good point

Streetwalker7
09-13-13, 05:45
I think Thai sex workers would fear that the video would be distributed and that they as the actors could be prosecuted under Thailand's anti-pornography laws. Kesarin Chaichalermpol aka Nat Chanapa made a porn video a few years ago that became an internet hit. She was arrested and prosecuted. I believe she was found guilty and in the end received a slight slap on the wrist. Still this was a conspicuous scandal at the time. Kesarin was a professional model before the incident which may have made her more visible, thus a good target. Of course after her arrest she became a successful advertising model landing gigs that paid six figure.

A person of no notoriety may feel more anonymous and less vulnerable. Perhaps you could enlist a fellow monger whose into exhibitionism as a co-conspirator. The two of you could pick up a freelancer and tell her you're going to make her into a movie star! Venetian masks could be used to add some flare and hide identities. Anyone interested in volunteering?I doubt those that allow nude filmimg are worried about becoming internet sensations. They just not that hot. LOL. They want that extra 200 baht for the privilege of nude video.

Wolvenvacht
09-13-13, 07:03
Mama-san recommended me a short girl with big fake tits. I was a few beers in at the time so I said why not. Found out LT was going to be 5000, talked down from 6000. She was also saying LT for her was 5am, at which I told her 9am or nothing.

In the end, it was 1am and I was horny so I went with it. (...) Like I said, nothing to write about except my wet pair of shoes. I'll do it again tonight. Since I started a sort of rapport with the Mama and the ushers at Rainbow 4, I'll probably start there again.

Another thing, why don't these girls bring their own toothbrushes? Sheesh.Oh dear, you didn't have much luck on your first try. 5000 baht after midnight and only 2 pops in total? I wouldn't go back to Rainbow 4, they will recognize you as "easy" and you will probably not be able to get their prices down to reasonable levels. Those girls gossip and you have become a "marked" man in their eyes.

Change the scenery, try Soi Cowboy. I always found the atmosphere more convivial there and the girls less mercenary. LT is available starting from the early evening, which means you can get 2 pops before going to sleep and have a good rest, followed by a refreshing morning shag for about 3000 baht plus barfine and one or two LDs.

And as for toothbrushes, either I give them a spare toothbrush or they use my bottle of Listerine. No big deal.

Btbtbt68
09-13-13, 08:32
. Perhaps you could enlist a fellow monger whose into exhibitionism as a co-conspirator. The two of you could pick up a freelancer and tell her you're going to make her into a movie star! Venetian masks could be used to add some flare and hide identities. Anyone interested in volunteering?Cheating on a Thai freelance is out of question. I'd rather not have my goal then deceiving someone. An act with a Venetian mask, for me. Is like a an act with your clothes on. The woman's face and gestures, make the whole thing, not just her body.

I understand that most readers believe my question is undoable. Strange, I thought Thailand is a country to fulfill any dream.

Betong
09-13-13, 08:53
Other's experiences may differ but for me 80% of Thai women sort of fall in the ok range sexually, not bad but rarely great. 10% are great. 10% are terrible.I'd never given this ratio much thought but your figures sound about right. What it means is that you spend a lot of time having average, OK sex in Thailand just to find that one girl with the real talent. Not that that's the worst way in the world to pass the time.

I do think the ratio of great ones is a bit higher in the Philippines, and higher still in Indonesia. (And even lower in Cambodia and Burma.) But it's nice just to have the variety.

Ehunter
09-13-13, 15:08
A most excellent drugstore. Next door to Bullys pub.

https://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&channel=suggest&ie=UTF-8&q=Bully

's+Pub&fb=1&gl=us&hq=bully+pub+BKK&cid=0, 0.8861935586298344761&ei=xxQxUr7DMqvi4APw7YCgCQ&ved=0CIcBEPwSMAsHelp an ignorant guy out. (me)

Why would you guys be running in to pop testosterone instead of using the popular viragra route?

Does T serve a condition the V does not? What is the deal?

Paul Kausch
09-13-13, 17:05
Does T serve a condition the V does not? What is the deal?They are completely different. Viagra was developed by Pfizor to treat heart disease. It was seldom prescribed until it was discovered it could treat erectile dysfunction. Simply put, it causes the blood vessels in your penis to dilate so you can achieve an erection. For the purpose of the past time that motivates us to waste our time on this most excellent forum that is all it does.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. It is important for the development of the testes and prostate. It causes increased muscle, bone mass, and the growth of body hair. Testosterone is also essential for health and well-being and the prevention of osteoporosis. Testosterone levels naturally drop as men get older. As these drop men lose muscle mass and bone density. Body fat increases. Sleep and mood are adversely affected. Sexual arousal diminishes.

Testosterone cream elevate testosterone levels, which reverses these conditions. An older man taking testosterone cream will get stronger and more muscular. His bones will be healthier. His mood will improve. He will sleep better. Like a younger man he will feel hornier and be more motivated to f*ck.

The Viagra will enable this horny old man to get a hard-on so he can f*ck better, longer and more often.

Both drugs have side effects and should be used in consultation with your friendly family doctor.

Copious amounts of information on both are available on the Internet.

Duniawala
09-13-13, 17:49
Is it possible to have a couple having a private sex show for me while I film them?

If it is, what is the best way to achieve the couple and their consent? How and where do you recommend I should try it?Possible, yes. I assume that you want to have a couple perform the sex act while you film them, right? There are many of such films all over. Usually it involves the cooperation of a wingman. And a lot of money for the girl. However, she must be willing to participate.


If it is too hard Is it possible to film a show in one of the clubs (for money)?

I hope I'll live to tell this forum how it was.I don't think it is possible to openly film a a show as the patrons / entertainers wish to remain private. Who knows what you will do with the tape.

So how much are you willing to spend. I am sure the club owners will let you film a private show, if the price is right.

Looks like 1. you are very young and 2. Come from a place where sex is very restricted. Just come to LOS have a good time. After you have visited a few times, you will get to know the system. And fulfill your dream to star in a porno film. :-)

Paul Kausch
09-13-13, 18:36
Cheating on a Thai freelance is out of question. I'd rather not have my goal then deceiving someone. An act with a Venetian mask, for me. Is like a an act with your clothes on. The woman's face and gestures, make the whole thing, not just her body.

I understand that most readers believe my question is undoable. Strange, I thought Thailand is a country to fulfill any dream.Sorry I didn't make myself clearer. My advice was serious, but parts were written in a humorous tone. Guess my feeble attempt at humor failed. Let me make myself clear.

1. I was pointing out that there was a famous case of a Thai model getting arrested and prosecuted for making a porn video. For this reason I think escort agencies, gogo bars and massage parlors, and the girls who work in these would be reluctant to appear in a porn video. They are too well known. I think your best bet would be to hit the spots freelancers hang out and recruit one of them. They are less likely to be identified by the Thai authorities.

2. I was suggesting it would be easier to pull this off if the man in the video was working with you. Do it with a willing male friend. If you will be in Bangkok alone, you might be able to use ISG to recruit someone to work with you. Guys who are exhibitionists might get into it.

3. By telling her you were going to make her a movie star, I meant porn movie star. In other words, I was suggesting after she agrees to hook up with you tell her you want to shot a porn video and negotiate a price. Everyone has their price.

4. The Venetian mask was a joke. If you surf the net you will turn up amateur porn videos with the people wearing masks to hid their identity.

5. By the way, for years the Internet has had plenty of porn shot in Bangkok and Pattaya with some random dude (not a porn industry actor) and a girl picked up from a gogo bar or off the street. Often the guy is videoing himself getting a blow job or banging the girl. At the time the girls didn't know what the guy was going to do with the video. They may have been naive then, but they're not stupid now. To get them to go along with you expect to have to pay.

Good luck. Hope you're successful and everyone involved is happy.