Bangkok Massage Parlors - TULIP ONLY! [Archive] - Page 6

Simian

03-16-10, 16:59

On a quick trip to Bangkok over the weekend, I visited Tulip soon after arrival and had a nice session with a girl called Jojo, the only one available at that time (it was half past noon). Cost was 800THB for a 2-hour oil massage and 1,500THB for the girl. Jojo was on her early thirties, had darker skin and a firm butt and had clearly undergone a few "surgical enhancements", at least a boob job and a lip enhancement. Session was pretty good, even if the spare tiny room and mattress on the floor were not really pleasing. After shower, she gave me an unhurried BBBJ+AR that really got me in the mood for some action. After the first pop, followed a nice oil massage - her strong hands helped easing the discomfort of the long flight - that prepared me for more action and a second pop. All in all, a very relaxing experience, worth repeating on a next visit to Bangkok.

What is this? Matress on the floor? When I used to frequent this place on a regular basis up until 6 months ago, a bed was always provided. I would have complained if only matress on the floor was available as it does not allow me to do doggy easily unless girl in on bed and I get to stand while I am doing her.

The Pro

03-17-10, 00:59

I think it might mean the "only" spare room was a tiny room with a mattress on the floor.

I can assure you the room are the same as normal, and Tulip is now back ahead of Mango and Snow White.

Lots of girls, come cuties and same Tulip service. I have not been to Mango or Snow White for a few months now, Tulip is back as the venue of choice. Early evening is a good time, or Sunday late afternoon.

What is this? Matress on the floor? When I used to frequent this place on a regular basis up until 6 months ago, a bed was always provided. I would have complained if only matress on the floor was available as it does not allow me to do doggy easily unless girl in on bed and I get to stand while I am doing her.

11Bravo

03-17-10, 16:51

Late afternoon, 5-ish, an open 2 hours, so headed to Mango (yes, I know what thread this is) to see what was on/to tap, figuring the opening 3pm pulls would just be finishing up. (Last week, I was a 3pm-er; when I was leaving, many more selections available.) Now only 4 on offer, none really appealing (in my eyes).

Jump on skytrain (can it be 10 years?), 1 stop, and I'm outside Tulip. Haven't been there in a couple of years. Walk in front door, receptionist is over watching tv (what, a thai girl watching tv?, hard to believe!). Can barely be bothered to come over to the reception desk.

She calls out "Jojo". Now, since that's not MY name... hmmm. Kind of like a bell curve: could be, way off to the right, my karma is so dazzling, she's picked the very best for me. Or, way off to the left, she's picked the girl who's not popular and needs the work. Or, the bell part, most likely, just picked the next one up in the rotation. Point being, it's just a name, no face to associate with it.

Christmas, I like surprises. My birthday, same again. But I've always been more a "bar man" than an escort service type of guy - I like to see the merchandise. And speaking of seeing, no photo book offered. Of course, that's fine with me, as I understand the verb "photoshop".

I ask who is there (maybe not understood), so I say again, "which girls here?" Maybe I'll recognize a name from some of the reports here.

"I call Jojo for you."

Definitely NOT on the same page. Now Jojo could be a stunner for all I know, but I just don't know. Certainly in the next 2 minutes I'll know, but, then again, I'm an adult, I like making my own decisions, what appeals TO ME.

"Never mind", as I turn to walk out. Suddenly, the "weather" changes. "Can go downstairs, many girls there." OK, now we're on the same page. Of course, her definition and mine of "many" different, but there are 6 or 7 on the top platform, with a couple more slowly dragging themselves up from the lower level. No problem me - that just eliminates them from the cull - no energy in the lineup translates as 'not interested' in the room.

Pick Tuk from the girls sitting there, looks like she's nicely endowed. She is, although somewhat disappointingly, artificially (hope springs eternal, only to face reality). But at least it's not the engineering of the bra.

A slow, sensual massage follows, slow enough that I do mention I'm interested in 'extras'. Now, I SERIOUSLY doubt that any 'civilian' walks in expecting a legit massage, but this is "Amazing Thailand"; you never know. No problem, we are on the same page.

And unlike Mango (1:45), and unlike Annies (2 hours stated, but 1.5 provided), full 2 hours occupied. Best of those places, but it does come down to the girl. Likewise, unlike Mango and Annies, at Tulip, you pay the base price at the door (800 baht, 2 hours), arrangements made with the girl (though there was no discussion of price). At Mango and Annies, it's 'all inclusive'.

Also nice to hear that the girl I knew several years ago is now making someone happy in Germany, nice girl.

Suntangh R

03-18-10, 16:19

Hi Folks,

Before you react unfavourably, just hear me out. I was told once to go there in person and select the girl instead of asking this question. I have been there three times but with selections already made, and did'nt need to see the line up. I'm a little 'charry" of going down and seeing the line up,.may be a loss of face for the girls I've been with, coupled with my embarrasment! Old school, Sirs!

Nice, Dao, Nestle were lovely and great! They could converse, had humour, and were adroit at making the experience enjoyable. Any recommendations/observations on Tuk, Nadea, Jane, Nikki et al. Are there others who are in the same league.

It's tough being a mongerer and a gentleman, but I like it that way!

Rocksoff

03-19-10, 08:45

Likewise, unlike Mango and Annies, at Tulip, you pay the base price at the door (800 baht, 2 hours), arrangements made with the girl (though there was no discussion of price). At Mango and Annies, it's 'all inclusive'.

At Mango, I've always been asked to pay the house fee downstairs, afterwards. There's never been any mention of money for the girl, and I always paid her in the room, afterwards. Same at Snow White. Never been to Annies.

11Bravo

03-19-10, 17:27

At Mango, I've always been asked to pay the house fee downstairs, afterwards. There's never been any mention of money for the girl, and I always paid her in the room, afterwards. Same at Snow White. Never been to Annies.Yes, have been informed that it's normal to pay her fee in the room, directly to her.

I'd just been to Annie's the previous day, and there, it IS all inclusive. Guess what threw me at Mango was the unbidden bbbj/cim in the shower, with no mention of extras (I DID know that THAT was not included in any base price). So I started thinking that maybe it was all inclusive. Like I posted, started to wonder which it was, but then decided I wouldn't be distracted by that question, letting it handle itself.

Her fee should have been paid in the room, but bless the Thais, they covered for this falang's ignorance, and simply added her fee into the house's fee downstairs. Worked for me.

Lifeingr

03-27-10, 18:37

I visited Tulip last night after many months of absence. I choose one girl that it is the first time I see in Tulip.Her name was Anne (or something like this). Young, beautiful small lady with very nice face and decent body. Shower was very conservative for the Tulip but OK.

Back to bed and Anne is lying on her back and open her arms and invites me to a DFK. Nice signal I thing, this could be GFE. After a couple of minutes of very passionate DFK I decide to go down for a DATY. Intermediately Anne puts her hand in front of her pussy and she clearly signals that doesn't want DATY. That's odd I thing and I insist and I remove her hand from her pussy. I notice that something is not good down there and I open gently her pussy lips. Surprise: I see a kind of not right formation, a white spot something like a wart but not a wart. She has an expression of big pain in her face. I look at her and say "please let me see" I open more and I see that this white spot on her pussy goes long back. I am not more curious, I stop touching her and I say "sorry something is wrong here". She says that she knows that she has been to the doctor and the doctor said to her that it is OK. She also tells me that she used to take some medication but she is not taking any more. I tell her that there is no way that I'll continue and I start dressing. She asks me if I want to choose another girl but I say "no thanks".

Down to the reception, she says something in Thai to the mamassan who immediately asks me the 400 Baht (as you understand I was in the room for less than 10 minutes). I say no because I've had no massage and no service and she replies "if you want massage go down pick another girl but YOU WILL PAY". I really have no interest to start an issue, I pay her and I am leaving saying "that's was my last time here". And I mean it.

Well, I do not know if the problem with Anne's pussy is something innocent but I don't thing so. Maybe it was just an old infection that left a scarce but again, I don't take this kind of risks. It seems also that the issue is know to the mamassan but they still allow to Anne to work under these conditions! So sorry but this is too much and this kind of behaviour is a big risk for the customers.

In any case I've made up my mind and I'll not go again, but this report is also a warning to fellow mongers. Be careful and if by chance you take Anne check her pussy first.

NicFrenchy

03-27-10, 20:45

The Pro

03-28-10, 02:31

Well, next time this happens please think of other mongers before you stupidly pay and walk out.

It would seem the girl knows she has something wrong but has not told Mamasan or she would not be working and would be on medication.

Obviously the girl is lying to Mama and trying to keep working, needs the money or something.

When you went downstairs you should have "Sorry, she is sick" and if needs be point at her, her genital area and say "problem". A number of the girls do speak good English, had you demanded to explain in English it could have been done.

I am sure if Mama had known she had a problem you would not have been asked to pay and "Anne" would have been dismissed and with no chance to give a similar bad time to another monger.

It sounds like the girl lied to Mama and said in Thai you cannot get it up or something and do not want to massage now. Hiding the fact the reason is she is possibly sick.

However, you simply paying and walking means she is stll working there and still can infect someone else.

Next time, please think of fellow mongers and if you find any girl who has a problem in any place, report it to the management/Mamasan.

I visited Tulip last night after many months of absence. I choose one girl that it is the first time I see in Tulip.Her name was Anne (or something like this). Young, beautiful small lady with very nice face and decent body. Shower was very conservative for the Tulip but OK.

Back to bed and Anne is lying on her back and open her arms and invites me to a DFK. Nice signal I thing, this could be GFE. After a couple of minutes of very passionate DFK I decide to go down for a DATY. Intermediately Anne puts her hand in front of her pussy and she clearly signals that doesn't want DATY. That's odd I thing and I insist and I remove her hand from her pussy. I notice that something is not good down there and I open gently her pussy lips. Surprise: I see a kind of not right formation, a white spot something like a wart but not a wart. She has an expression of big pain in her face. I look at her and say "please let me see" I open more and I see that this white spot on her pussy goes long back. I am not more curious, I stop touching her and I say "sorry something is wrong here". She says that she knows that she has been to the doctor and the doctor said to her that it is OK. She also tells me that she used to take some medication but she is not taking any more. I tell her that there is no way that I'll continue and I start dressing. She asks me if I want to choose another girl but I say "no thanks".

Down to the reception, she says something in Thai to the mamassan who immediately asks me the 400 Baht (as you understand I was in the room for less than 10 minutes). I say no because I've had no massage and no service and she replies "if you want massage go down pick another girl but YOU WILL PAY". I really have no interest to start an issue, I pay her and I am leaving saying "that's was my last time here". And I mean it.

Well, I do not know if the problem with Anne's pussy is something innocent but I don't thing so. Maybe it was just an old infection that left a scarce but again, I don't take this kind of risks. It seems also that the issue is know to the mamassan but they still allow to Anne to work under these conditions! So sorry but this is too much and this kind of behaviour is a big risk for the customers.

In any case I've made up my mind and I'll not go again, but this report is also a warning to fellow mongers. Be careful and if by chance you take Anne check her pussy first.

Gold777

03-28-10, 04:52

I notice that something is not good down there and I open gently her pussy lips. Surprise: I see a kind of not right formation, a white spot something like a wart but not a wart. She has an expression of big pain in her face. I look at her and say "please let me see" I open more and I see that this white spot on her pussy goes long back.Maybe a scar from laser removed genital warts? I do not know of any Anne at Tulip, but Ant sounds similar. That would be a shame, because she's so nice.

Lifeingr

03-28-10, 09:17

Well, next time this happens please think of other mongers before you stupidly pay and walk out.

Well, I am thinking of other mongers and this is why I report the incident because the important think mongers should know is about health risks. I told to the mama that she is sick but she was insisting that I pay.

You call me stupid but if you think a bit you'll understand that stupidity lies behind a behavior that says "I care more about 400 Baht than my health". I am not going to start an argument with you and do not expect any other reply independently of how more offensive you can be in next messages. I simply ignore people that call me stupid in an internet forum.

Lifeingr

03-28-10, 09:20

Maybe a scar from laser removed genital warts? I do not know of any Anne at Tulip, but Ant sounds similar. That would be a shame, because she's so nice.

Yea, maybe it was Ant that sounds similar. Actually when I asked her name she said something like "aann" and I supposed "Anne". Indeed she is such a nice and cute face.

11Bravo

03-28-10, 18:27

I told to the mama that she is sick but she was insisting that I pay.I appreciate the head's up.

Since the message MIGHT have been misunderstood by the front desk, has anyone ever thought of reporting it via their contact channel:
http://www.tulipmassage.com/contact.html

Giotto

03-28-10, 20:28

Well, next time this happens please think of other mongers before you stupidly pay and walk out.
...
I am sure if Mama had known she had a problem you would not have been asked to pay and "Anne" would have been dismissed and with no chance to give a similar bad time to another monger.
...
The Pro,

I am sick and tired of this bullshit.

If this had happened at Annies we would get a complete different comment, and Aey would be the "greedy" massage parlour owner, who sends sick girls to serve customers.

I know Tulips for years now, I watched their development since they evolved from the split/downfall of Barons - and I even know Saeng as a customer. The behaviour of the mamasan[s] in this case match[es] exactly with my experiences: They don't care much about a single customer experience at Tulips. At Annies - they care much more!

I have complained/informed (some times) about bad experiences at Tulips (may be I was the only one in all those years) ... and the reaction was usually a face showing no emotions at all - and presenting me the bill.

Lifeingr,

you did the right thing, let it go, don't create a lot of problems (it's not worth it, and you really don't want to have problems with Thais, really not!!!), but write about it in the internet.

As for our experienced wonnabe Thailand expert: I am surprised that you expect a Thai person to forget about a possible revenue once it obviously was generated (whether the service was lousy or not). That's completetely un-Thai - and people who know Thailand would never write such nonsense. Once the service started it has to be paid for.

It's simply LOUSY advice given here.

Newbies, if you ever get into such a situation, and the question is to pay THB 400 or get into trouble - pay that damned THB 400 and get out of the shop. You don't need to return to that shop, and all you lost is - 13 USD !

If you cannot afford to lose USD 13 in a problem situation - don't come to Bangkok!

Giotto

The Pro

03-29-10, 00:45

Disagree here totally.

Why are you paying when the goods are damaged?

If your story is true then if you told Mamasan clearly that the girl was sick down below they should not have charged you anything.

Do not let people walk all over you, you are the customer.

Be polite, tell Mamasan sorry the girl is sick. If no success then politely ask to see the the boss to complain.

One trouble with Tulip is sometimes the girls work behind the counter if Mama is not about. So ask to see the boss.

Ignore idiots telling you to just hand over the money and run away, you can stand your ground, be polite and do not get upset, just clearly state your case and ask for the boss.

If mongers make a standpoint, clearly and politely and to the right people it makes things better.

If mongers are stupid and pay and run away then more and more places will try to rip off other mongers.

Stand your ground, in a polite way, at least until the big boss knows the problems.

No doubt if your room at LL is damaged or leaking water or has rats Giotto will similarly advise you to pay in full and not argue.

The Pro,

I am sick and tired of this bullshit.

If this had happened at Annies we would get a complete different comment, and Aey would be the "greedy" massage parlour owner, who sends sick girls to serve customers.

I know Tulips for years now, I watched their development since they evolved from the split/downfall of Barons - and I even know Saeng as a customer. The behaviour of the mamasan[s] in this case match[es] exactly with my experiences: They don't care much about a single customer experience at Tulips. At Annies - they care much more!

I have complained/informed (some times) about bad experiences at Tulips (may be I was the only one in all those years) ... and the reaction was usually a face showing no emotions at all - and presenting me the bill.

Lifeingr,

you did the right thing, let it go, don't create a lot of problems (it's not worth it, and you really don't want to have problems with Thais, really not!!!), but write about it in the internet.

As for our experienced wonnabe Thailand expert: I am surprised that you expect a Thai person to forget about a possible revenue once it obviously was generated (whether the service was lousy or not). That's completetely un-Thai - and people who know Thailand would never write such nonsense. Once the service started it has to be paid for.

It's simply LOUSY advice given here. The Pro, it is irresponsible what you do here!

Newbies, if you ever get into such a situation, and the question is to pay THB 400 or get into trouble - pay that damned THB 400 and get out of the shop. You don't need to return to that shop, and all you lost is - 13 USD !

If you cannot afford to lose USD 13 in a problem situation - don't come to Bangkok!

Giotto

Pita123

03-29-10, 05:06

In any case I've made up my mind and I'll not go again, but this report is also a warning to fellow mongers. Be careful and if by chance you take Anne check her pussy first.

I'll confirm that this is Ant. I didn't see exactly what you saw but saw something else. Mentioned it to her and recommended what she needs to do and she said she saw doctor but whatever he suggested 'hurt'. So I've been cured with my infatuation with her cuteness.

Lifeingr

03-29-10, 05:37

I'll confirm that this is Ant. I didn't see exactly what you saw but saw something else. Mentioned it to her and recommended what she needs to do and she said she saw doctor but whatever he suggested 'hurt'. So I've been cured with my infatuation with her cuteness.

Yes I know I've not described what I saw very well, but I don't have the medical vocabulary to describe what I saw in details; I definitely remember though that is was something white. The only think I am sure is that it didn't look normal to me.

Pita123

03-29-10, 06:07

No doubt if your room at LL is damaged or leaking water or has rats Giotto will similarly advise you to pay in full and not argue.

So is this the problem you have with LL? You stayed there and there was some problem with your room? What exactly happened to you at LL? Did one of the girls in the SB make fun of your package?

Fon Tok

03-29-10, 06:41

...No doubt if your room at LL is damaged or leaking water or has rats Giotto will similarly advise you to pay in full and not argue.Last time I saw him it was readily apparent to me that Giotto is not Thai.

TP, your wherewith concerning logic and diplomacy is awesome. Keep it up!

11Bravo

03-29-10, 07:24

you really don't want to have problems with Thais, really not!!!I gotta go with the numbers here: 4000+ vs < 300, always siding with experience.

You DID get wronged by Tulip, and in a perfect world, it would have ended the way YOU expected. Maybe it would have helped if the boss was there and you could have talked to her. BUT this is not a perfect world, it's Thailand, and you have to view it from their point, through Thai glasses:

TULIP delivered what THEY had promised:
a room, which you did use, even if briefly, and would now have to be tidied up
a shower, which you did use, if only once
a towel, which you did use and could not be used again until washed (or at least dried)
clean sheets (well, hope they were), which would PROBABLY have to be changed (one can always hope, anyway).
a masseuse for a massage (NOTHING more from the "house") which you found fault with. They did offer you another masseuse, which you refused. Anything extra was between you and the masseuse - Tulip's not 'all-in'.So, from THEIR point, they had delivered all that the house offers, and you owed them 400 baht, whether you used the room for an hour (after all, you could have just had a massage from the original, or the substitute), or 10 minutes. Their employee might have been ill, and OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE knows why you go to Tulips, but that would not effect the services you paid TULIP's for.

Yes, it's not "right", and a "good" establishment would have handled it differently, but they chose not to. So you did what you could, will not go back, and warned others to be cautious or avoid.

Now, I have never lived in Thailand, but I've visited often enough that I understand the potholes that exist here. You don't think there's a contribution to the Police Christmas ball fund made by Tulip's... and they're not Christians... I've never seen it but I'm bright enough to know that Tulip has some sort of security around, for emergencies... and the good security, you don't see...

A simple phone call or a scream for help and you might find you have more attention than you want. You HAVE walked out without paying the bill... And do you really want to be answering exactly why you know that there's something wrong with this Thai's vagina to the Thai POLICE?"

Don't know about your neighborhood, but in mine, we can bad mouth all the neighbors, AMONGST ourselves, that we want. But let a stranger, let alone a foreigner, come in, and start taking advantage of a neighbor (from OUR point of view), and you know what? Suddenly, we're ALL brothers (as in brothers-in-arms).

400 baht compared, in the best case, to several hours explaining to the police why you were wronged? Well, to some, might be a lot, but for my hourly rate, damn cheap to be on my way, intact.

Same for "waiting for the boss". I might be willing to wait for 30 minutes, but after an hour... I've got better things to do with my time. Yes, they win, but exactly how much is YOUR time worth? You can try and go to the top, but there comes a time to cut your losses and move on, spending the time posting (at least Aey does read her establishment's reviews :) ) If it's that big a deal, call, find out the boss IS there, return and complain.

Now I'm sure some here will say that I'm just letting them threaten me as I always do, and get away with it (not quite understanding that while all the facts in an FR are true, some might be overemphasized for "entertainment's" effect). I'm the customer, and have "rights". Fine, go complain to the Better Business Bureau, or the Consumer Protection Agency (as the BKK Post DB column might say, "There's a BBB in Thailand?").

I've been around long enough to understand "discretion over valor", and do understand how easy it is to fall off a curb here. It all comes down to the business card you can pull out of your wallet (no, not YOUR business card, but the card of your Thai powers-that-be friend) compared to the card they can pull out. With Tulip, I'm willing to bet theirs has a "General" in the title, and could trump any that I could produce.

Besides, for 400 baht, you've got a good war story to tell, how you avoided physical injury by being observant, while you wallet wasn't so lucky :)

Like I say, go with the numbers...

Run Mann

03-29-10, 07:28

Why are you paying when the goods are damaged?

If your story is true then if you told Mamasan clearly that the girl was sick down below they should not have charged you anything.

Do not let people walk all over you, you are the customer.

Be polite, tell Mamasan sorry the girl is sick. If no success then politely ask to see the the boss to complain.

One trouble with Tulip is sometimes the girls work behind the counter if Mama is not about. So ask to see the boss.

Ignore idiots telling you to just hand over the money and run away, you can stand your ground, be polite and do not get upset, just clearly state your case and ask for the boss.

If mongers make a standpoint, clearly and politely and to the right people it makes things better.

If mongers are stupid and pay and run away then more and more places will try to rip off other mongers.

Stand your ground, in a polite way, at least until the big boss knows the problems.

This is actually sound and solid advice. No need to start a war with anyone over 400B but as a customer you should always firmly but politely let purveyors know when they fall-short.

NicFrenchy

03-29-10, 07:36

Well, next time this happens please think of other mongers before you stupidly pay and walk out.

"ALL for ONE and ONE for ALL"?

Come on, The Pro, you are starting to really come across as a complete Moron. I mean, we know you are (at least @ ISG) but now even other Forums start to see you as nothing more than a shit disturber.

I thought of you as an educated man with a "bad Mission" and I somehow, respected that. but lately you try and do everything to prove you're a complete idiot, I think it's time to stop before even the newbies take you for a fool.

Daddy07

03-29-10, 07:41

...TP, your wherewith concerning logic and diplomacy is awesome. Keep it up!
Oh, noooooooooo, please don't say that.

Don't you guys realize that you've been feeding a troll?

Keep feeding him and he'll keep comming back!

He LOVES all the attention he's getting.

NicFrenchy

03-29-10, 07:45

To close this argument:

Bareback happens Everywhere and the risk of being infected is there if you choose to partake in this hobby. that's it.

Lifeingr booked a room for an hour and 400thb, he did not feel safe with his provider and decided to walk out.
As far as the shop is concerned, the room was his for the next hour. He could have asked to change girls and they would have done it for him immediately (which they did), or he could have chosen to go back to his room alone for the remainder of the hour.

In any case, there was no reason for him not to pay the 400.

In my opinion, the shop did offer him an alternative so it's not entirely their fault.

Having said that, it I was in his shoes, I would also probably have been put-off and refused the change in lady... paid the 400 and walked out.

Pita123

03-29-10, 17:14

Last time I saw him it was readily apparent to me that Giotto is not Thai.
Then again, with the quality of some of those LBs, I guess the surgeons could turn a Thai guy into a Caucasian European, accent and all.

The Pro

04-04-10, 10:53

Tulip is closed from 12th to 16th of April for the Songran holiday, as will most places in Bangkok.

Opens again on the 17th April.

If you are planning a mongering holiday in Thailand and like massage places then avoid the 12th to 16th as many many places will close and many bars will shut too, as the girls go home for the Thai New Year.

West Coast

04-04-10, 20:31

Hello guys,

I will be in BKK April 18th. I plan to visit Tulips and looking for good looking young girls who are good performers as well.

Any suggestions?

The Pro

04-05-10, 04:31

Hello guys,

I will be in BKK April 18th. I plan to visit Tulips and looking for good looking young girls who are good performers as well.

Any suggestions?Plenty there, simply walk in, do not be shy, say to the girl you want to go look downstairs.

You go downstairs, the girls will sit on the sofa's and you take your pick.

I really do not understand why others do not do this, why they walk in and accept what they are given on the rota.

So, take a look at all the girls downstairs. I would suggest going about 2pm if its a weekend, or around 6pm if its a weekday, to get the best choices.

Fast Eddie 48

04-05-10, 06:32

Hello guys,

I will be in BKK April 18th. I plan to visit Tulips and looking for good looking young girls who are good performers as well.

Any suggestions?West coast

You won't find young and good looking here go to Nataree massage, but if you want a good performers and service this is the place.

Fast Eddie 48

11Bravo

04-05-10, 13:59

Plenty there, simply walk in, do not be shy, say to the girl you want to go look downstairs. ... I really do not understand why others do not do this, why they walk in and accept what they are given on the rota.I agree completely. By going downstairs, you can see the actual girls (obviously, duh) who are available, and pick one that appeals to YOU. Nothing like seeing them 'in the flesh' as it were.

Plus, as discussed here before, the girl called for MIGHT be less popular...

And I'd suggest, even if you have a name, asking the mamasan to point her out first. Just because Punter A (a long time senior member) thought she was the best looking, your tastes might differ.

Plus, a welcoming smile from her counts a lot for me. No guarantee, but certainly a better indication of service interest than someone who can't be bothered.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=999289&postcount=1255

Dan7373

04-05-10, 18:26

....

Plus, a welcoming smile from her counts a lot for me. No guarantee, but certainly a better indication of service interest than someone who can't be bothered.

Yes, I agree about the smile. A massage lady who smiles at you, looks you right in the eye, and won't look away when you look at her is a massage lady who is in the mood to do you.

A lady like that usually won't mind if you start foreplaying her as soon as she closes the door. And you are bound to have a good experience with her as long as you don't forget to foreplay her clit in your body-to-body contact with her. Because being in the mood isn't enough. She needs to get physically excited too. And that's what her clit is for.

When you meet a group of massage ladies, then you can interact with them non-verbally and see if you have any chemistry with any one of them. Prolonged eye-contact between a guy and any sexy lady is a psychologically intimate experience for both.

And a lady who isn't quite in the mood to be with you for one reason or another will look away from your eyes. She won't maintain a prolonged eye-contact with you.

But a lady who is in the mood to be intimate with you is a lady who also won't mind psychological intimacy with you. And she will maintain a prolonged eye-contact with you when you look at her.

That's how you can tell if you have chemistry with the lady or not. And for this reason it's always a good idea to meet several ladies in person and see if you have chemistry with any one of them, before you choose the lady to go with.

Terwagne

04-12-10, 02:12

Transit in Bangkok for less than 12 hours with stay at the JW Marriott Sukhimvit. Arrived at 10.30 pm and called Tulip from the airport taxi asking if Pim could join me at 11.30 pm at the Marriott. Pim: plain looking, good/average body but very nicely shaped pointy breasts and erect nipples. Pim performed with enthousiasm, multiple BJ, enjoyed the session, came 2x with DATY and showed the talent of the best girls of Tulip. I left for the airport at 6 am.

Eric The Prick

04-13-10, 13:06

Mouse1

04-14-10, 08:53

I had Pim in February and I still think of her when I am horny.

Great lady!I can confirm. I rarely go to the flower shop these days, but she was one of my favourites.

White Whale

04-19-10, 16:52

I had over ten hours time to wait for my connecting flight to Philippines on my Easter vacation. I left my luggage to airport for safe keeping and headed for a dinner and then to Tulip. I took 90mins oily massage. Mamasan called for girl named View.

We went up and it became almost spooky. She asked have I been there before. I admidded so she realized I knew the thrill. We took a shower together and she started to kiss me and mouned in ridiculous fashion. Faking it unreal. Then she gave BBBJ in shower. That was good; not the spooky part.

Then she started massage and we begin to talk. Soon talk became intimate and after a while she told me I must have good heart. Quite soon she said she cannot believe - she has fallen in love with me. She wanted me to come her boy friend. In the end she gave me her cell number and said I could call her any time because she did not have a boy friend yet. She had very small breast and asked if I would like her to have silicons. In bed she performed almost desperate and faking continued. When I left her eyes were in tiers.

As soon I got out threw her number to nearest thrash can.

Fon Tok

04-20-10, 17:22

...and then to Tulip. I took 90mins oily massage. Mamasan called for girl named View....We went up and it became almost spooky...She wanted me to come her boy friend. In the end she gave me her cell number and said I could call her any time because she did not have a boy friend yet...Maybe she was just on a fishing expedition.

Tulip girls, especially the new ones, sit down in a dark basement most of the day waiting for someone to come in, (who does not know to go down the stairs and look). The rotation hits them and they have one chance to establish some type of relationship that just might bring back a return customer who asks for them by name. That is how they try to build a clientele to step out of the rotation order. Either the experienced girls share some of their secrets with the new girls, or the mamasan clues them in.

You can't fault a girl for trying this. Fucking strangers all day is not exactly a piece of cake. But I, like you, really hate those fake moans. It ruins the whole enchilada for me! Remember these women are usually not well educated and their understanding of English limited.

Fon Tok

05-02-10, 18:53

Last night I spoke with a friend who works at Tulip. She said business was slow, "no customer!"
Gentlemen, Tulip girls get very, very horny when business is slow...

NicFrenchy

05-03-10, 02:00

Last night I spoke with a friend who works at Tulip. She said business was slow, "no customer!"
Gentlemen, Tulip girls get very, very horny when business is slow...

Yes they are Horny for cash

Fon Tok

05-03-10, 05:44

Yes they are Horny for cash
Yeah, that, too

Steven007

05-03-10, 14:20

Mark17

05-03-10, 21:58

I have read about girls providing anal sex in other message parlours, but not sure about Tulip. I am a fan of anal sex(women only no ladyboy)

Is such a service available in Tulip and how to approach such girls.

Thanks for any information.Tulip is the place where ALL girls do anal. No problem approaching her and asking, (she will lube up). And there is no extra cost for it.

Fredlena

05-04-10, 00:29

I have read about girls providing anal sex in other message parlours, but not sure about Tulip. I am a fan of anal sex(women only no ladyboy)

Is such a service available in Tulip and how to approach such girls.

Thanks for any information.Yes, tulip is well knowed for that. (such as mango or snow white), how to approach such girls? Just ask mamasan.

If you are shy for asking that, just go to eden club, left side of yellow line, no need to ask, you will be sure the girl is anal.

Cheers,

Fred

Steven007

05-04-10, 13:51

Yes, tulip is well knowed for that. (such as mango or snow white), how to approach such girls? Just ask mamasan.

If you are shy for asking that, just go to eden club, left side of yellow line, no need to ask, you will be sure the girl is anal.

Cheers,

FredThanks guy for the information.Eden is quiet expensive, I think.

11Bravo

05-05-10, 02:02

Eden is quiet expensive, I think.Don't know what Eden's current charges are, but you are paying for TWO girls. Best to pick one girl and let her pick the other; that way, they'll be more comfortable with each other. Things might have changed, but I always thought it was reasonable for what you got. If nothing else, a good place to get anal + ménage à trois, and MOST important, PARALLEL processing, NOT sequential (as in both girls are involved, rather than 1 at a time, with the other in the bathroom, on the couch, etc., etc.)

As for Tulip, I'm sure you know how to use a scroll bar, but others might not, so
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1006130&postcount=1282

NicFrenchy

05-05-10, 03:22

Thanks guy for the information.Eden is quiet expensive, I think.Eden Club will be 3600 for 90mn and 2 girls. If you give each 500 tip (the norm) & Drinks, total will be close to 5k.

If you have the same fun @ Tulip, it will cost you the same:

Oil for 90mn for 2 ladies: 1,200
FS Fee with 300 tip per lady: 3,600
Drinks: 200
About 5k

Steven007

05-05-10, 15:41

Does Tulip accept credit cards?

NicFrenchy

05-05-10, 19:00

Does Tulip accept credit cards?

Even if they did, I wouldn't trust them

BionicMan

05-06-10, 00:03

Does Tulip accept credit cards?
you do not want to pay by credit card in general in Thailand (and other countries in Asia) unless you have to pay an hotel bill in an international venue or some shopping mall etc.
In other places they will usually charge extras % for the credit card, I can't speak for certain risk, as Nickfrency writes in between the lines, but indeed it is never convenient to do.
Cash is the best form of payment!

NicFrenchy

05-06-10, 02:44

Scam is one thing but also, please don't forget that prostitution is illegal in thailand.
Imagine a crackdown on Tulip for not paying the BIB, they start to give them trouble (remember Barons?)... the LAST thing you want is your name or Credit card number anywhere near these type of activities.

If the BIB are looking for cash, what do you think they will do once they get a hold of your credit card receipts? My guess is they will try and succeed to scare the living shit out of you until you pay up an acceptable fee (farang fee of course).

Cash is KING

Finrod

05-06-10, 05:28

Does Tulip accept credit cards?
Dunno about that, but why the heck would you use your credit card (or debit card for that matter) at any SE Asian establishment other than airlines and good or better hotels? In my mind, that's taking an unacceptable risk. If the card details are copied as is quite easy to do, then subsequently abused, it will be difficult to get a replacement card from your bank in farangland in any timely manner. Heck, if you're not keeping tabs on your account online, it may be awhile before you realize you're being tagged. Or the bank detects for you and calls you. At the number they have for you which is at home.

Regarding favorite monger destinations like Pattaya and Angeles, I treated those places as all cash ventures, got my cash elsewhere and brought it there with me as I didn't want those places showing up on any of my credit or ATM card statements.

Cash, cash, cash ...

Fon Tok

05-06-10, 09:19

...If the card details are copied as is quite easy to do, then subsequently abused, it will be difficult to get a replacement card from your bank in farangland in any timely manner. Heck, if you're not keeping tabs on your account online, it may be awhile before you realize you're being tagged. Or the bank detects for you and calls you. At the number they have for you which is at home...This is surely true for some banks. But this is 2010, and if you are a smart traveler with good communications (the internet and a mobile phone), it is easy to both monitor one's banking and home calls. With international express package delivery (DHL, Fed-EX, UPS, etc), it is easy to have items, (i.e., new credit and ATM cards), delivered overseas in a matter of a few days. Even to remote parts of Thailand. I know this because I had the UPS truck roll up my dusty driveway in the past.

Good advice, though, to only use one's credit card occasionally at well-established venues. SE Asia is notorious for credit card scams and the banks monitor this closely (especially when charging plane tickets online).

Of course, if you are on a short mongering holiday, drunk and sleeping late with a couple of girls from the local bar, you might not be altogether on top of things! ;)

Steven007

05-06-10, 15:57

This is surely true for some banks. But this is 2010, and if you are a smart traveler with good communications (the internet and a mobile phone), it is easy to both monitor one's banking and home calls. With international express package delivery (DHL, Fed-EX, UPS, etc), it is easy to have items, (i.e., new credit and ATM cards), delivered overseas in a matter of a few days. Even to remote parts of Thailand. I know this because I had the UPS truck roll up my dusty driveway in the past.

Good advice, though, to only use one's credit card occasionally at well-established venues. SE Asia is notorious for credit card scams and the banks monitor this closely (especially when charging plane tickets online).

Of course, if you are on a short mongering holiday, drunk and sleeping late with a couple of girls from the local bar, you might not be altogether on top of things! ;)IT looks like using credit card for something illegal is not a wise idea after all.

OK that is fine with me.

11Bravo

05-07-10, 08:28

IT looks like using credit card for something illegal is not a wise idea after all.That's why they have atm's everywhere.

You might want to increase the max. cash withdrawal amount before you leave home. That way, you minimize a)trips to atm, and b)fees for using said atm.

I wouldn't count on any girl providing change... :) Atm's dispense 1000's, 500's, and 100's. I always withdrew an amount ending in 900, so I'd have the change.

Or you could get some traveler's checks (some banks give for free) before you leave home.

Daddy San

05-08-10, 09:05

IT looks like using credit card for something illegal is not a wise idea after all.
Indeed, leaving any kind of paper trail in p4p and similar transactions, whether legal or not, is extremely unwise.
It opens the potential for embarrassing questions from your boss, wife, IRS (taxes) and not to forget the girl(s) in conjunction with (un-)justified demands for aliments.
This is one of the reasons, why I would NEVER support a TGF by money transfer, even though I do give her generously while with her, but strictly cash.

Steven007

05-08-10, 16:26

Indeed, leaving any kind of paper trail in p4p and similar transactions, whether legal or not, is extremely unwise.

It opens the potential for embarrassing questions from your boss, wife, IRS (taxes) and not to forget the girl(s) in conjunction with (un-)justified demands for aliments.
This is one of the reasons, why I would NEVER support a TGF by money transfer, even though I do give her generously while with her, but strictly cash.Very true indeed.

Steven007

05-08-10, 16:56

Traveler1234

05-09-10, 03:23

Tulip'S website mentiond it is 800 batts for two hours oil message. I would like to know does this 2 hour also include anal or veginal sex and additional pops like blow job+hand job. How long will the whole session last and what will be the total cost.

Thanks

B800 is for full 2 hrs, all you can get, as many times as you can come. Minimum tip 1500-2000K, if she's good, additional tip is up to you.

11Bravo

05-10-10, 08:19

Tulip'S website mentiond it is 800 batts for two hours oil message. I would like to know does this 2 hour also include anal or veginal sex and additional pops like blow job+hand job. How long will the whole session last and what will be the total cost. To expand slightly on Traveler1234: the 800 baht for 2 hours is the HOUSE fee - management gets that for the room, water, etc.

Services with the girl are "extra", but not really a tip, as in "optional". She will expect the standard fees: 500 hj, 1000 bj, 1500 fs. But they are NOT cumulative :)

The "base" extra fee of 1500 should cover everything, as T1234 said, multiple times. A true tip on top of the 1500 optional for good service.

On arrival, I'd suggest going downstairs to see the lineup in person, rather than having the "next in the queue" be called up by the front desk.

Steven007

05-10-10, 14:38

To expand slightly on Traveler1234: the 800 baht for 2 hours is the HOUSE fee - management gets that for the room, water, etc.

Services with the girl are "extra", but not really a tip, as in "optional". She will expect the standard fees: 500 hj, 1000 bj, 1500 fs. But they are NOT cumulative :)

The "base" extra fee of 1500 should cover everything, as T1234 said, multiple times. A true tip on top of the 1500 optional for good service.

On arrival, I'd suggest going downstairs to see the lineup in person, rather than having the "next in the queue" be called up by the front desk.Thanks for your DETAIL information.

Simian

05-11-10, 00:53

IT looks like using credit card for something illegal is not a wise idea after all.

OK that is fine with me.
I agree that no one should use their credit card unless in some high class business where they have something to lose (5 star hotel in an international chain, high class store in Emporium etc).

But one thing that really pisses me off is the very high costs now being imposed by Western banks for taking money out of ATMs. Yes, I use Bank of Ayutthaya ATMs only (avoiding the 150 baht charge that other Thai banks impose). But when I get my statement, there is always a fee for the transaction of between 4 and 5 US$ and then a 1.75% currency charge on top of a crap exchange rate. I would really like to know if there is a way of finding out which cards/banks give the best value (I notice that banks just do not give out information on their charges!)

The Pro

05-11-10, 03:54

The length of time is YOUR choice.

400 baht for 1 hour to the House

600 baht for 90 mins to the House.

800 baht for 2 hours to the House.

Upstairs you can do what you want but at the end give the girl 1500 baht.

Simple as that, no need to tip, no need for extra money, just 1500 baht.

That includes anal / BBBJ / Catbath / FS etc........ whatever you do, just give the girl 1500 baht AND NO NEED TO TIP ANYTHING ON TOP OF THAT.

EG :

1 hour session is 2100 baht which is 600 paid to the House when you leave, and 1500 baht paid to the girl upstairs before you leave the room.

To expand slightly on Traveler1234: the 800 baht for 2 hours is the HOUSE fee - management gets that for the room, water, etc.

Services with the girl are "extra", but not really a tip, as in "optional". She will expect the standard fees: 500 hj, 1000 bj, 1500 fs. But they are NOT cumulative :)

The "base" extra fee of 1500 should cover everything, as T1234 said, multiple times. A true tip on top of the 1500 optional for good service.

On arrival, I'd suggest going downstairs to see the lineup in person, rather than having the "next in the queue" be called up by the front desk.

BionicMan

05-11-10, 09:08

But one thing that really pisses me off is the very high costs now being imposed by Western banks for taking money out of ATMs. Yes, I use Bank of Ayutthaya ATMs only (avoiding the 150 baht charge that other Thai banks impose). But when I get my statement, there is always a fee for the transaction of between 4 and 5 US$ and then a 1.75% currency charge on top of a crap exchange rate. I would really like to know if there is a way of finding out which cards/banks give the best value (I notice that banks just do not give out information on their charges!)
It's global recession, banks have to make money, otherwise they cannot cope with the bonuses...as simple as that.
On a more serious note, not being linked myself to the industry, I have to admit that today banks are sweeping every cent they can to compensate the lower revenues (?) they have because
a) customers want to pay less and less
b) the gap between money in and money out has decreases, both in terms of percentage and in terms of value (5% of 100 is much less, in terms of value of 5% of 500). Margin and percentages make the shareholders happy, but salaries etc are pain in value, not in %.
c) with the electronic transactions etc, they have less ways to cash money for srevices rendered, hence they charge more fees for these transactions, to compensate the lower incomes.
If a day will ever come when they do not have employees, they will still charge fees for e-banking.... Og course they are making more money this way. No doubt.
d) they can tell you that if you are not happy you can always fill your wallet with cash and so you do not have to pay their fees.

Showdown

05-14-10, 02:36

I finally got around to having my first massage parlor visit in Bangkok. I typically prefer the more sleazy route of choosing street girls but this time I decided to go to the place where everyone says pleasure is guaranteed.

Of course off to the Thong Lo BTS station. As soon as you go down the steps from the platform you can see the blue and white Tulip sign. Exited the BTS and took the steps on the right side. I walked in and Tulip looked really run down as others have said before. It looks like it was an office of some kind at one time. The lady behind the counter is ok-I speak Thai so that really breaks the ice with Thais. Even if your Thai is bad they will treat you a little better than if you dont. Nevertheless I looked through the book, didnt see anything of my liking and decided to walk down the steps and see who was downstairs. As soon as you go down the steps I see a bunch of disinterested women who are atleast 28 years old plus. I go back upstairs and look at the book again and say what the hell I will choose who I later found out was Jane.

Jane was ok. Unspectacular sex. In fact I found it downright boring at times. Stretch marks, sagging boobs. But she was a nice women though I have to give her. The room is terrible. Very small, worn carpet and the cheapest mattress they could find. They desperately need new towels as they felt like sandpaper. They even left the trashcan un emptied so I had the privileged of seeing used sex products. I snapped two pics of the inside of the room. I only came once and left.

I decided to go back two days later thinking that the boring experience and the run down facilities was just a bad day. I chose another women who I dont remember her name but she had nice breasts. Again all of the women there are all older. She was ok like Jane..nothing spectacular. Refused anal. Said she has only been there a month. But she, like Jane, was very nice and did her best.

I think the ages of the women and the run down facilities are enough to make me not make any return trips. I essentially paid 2,000 baht for what in Pattaya could have gotten me three girls that would have worked there butts off just for the 100 baht tip. I will not repeat.

Golfinho

05-14-10, 05:54

It's global recession, banks have to make money, otherwise they cannot cope with the bonuses. As simple as that.

On a more serious note, not being linked myself to the industry, I have to admit that today banks are sweeping every cent they can to compensate the lower revenues (?) they have because

A) customers want to pay less and less

B) the gap between money in and money out has decreases, both in terms of percentage and in terms of value (5% of 100 is much less, in terms of value of 5% of 500). Margin and percentages make the shareholders happy, but salaries etc are pain in value, not in %.

C) with the electronic transactions etc, they have less ways to cash money for srevices rendered, hence they charge more fees for these transactions, to compensate the lower incomes.

If a day will ever come when they do not have employees, they will still charge fees for e-banking. Og course they are making more money this way. No doubt.

D) they can tell you that if you are not happy you can always fill your wallet with cash and so you do not have to pay their fees.You have no clue either on how to beat the 150 baht charge? BoA charges (only) 1% foreign transaction fee with their Premiere account debit cards + the 150b, with exchange rate what you see on xe.com, or sometimes slightly better. Is there a consensus (du jour) on which Thai bank ATM to use? For cambio, the little independents. Especially Arabs. Always beat the banks and Western Unions.

Dan7373

05-14-10, 18:26

....
I decided to go back two days later thinking that the boring experience and the run down facilities was just a bad day. I chose another women who I dont remember her name but she had nice breasts. Again all of the women there are all older. She was ok like Jane..nothing spectacular. Refused anal. Said she has only been there a month. But she, like Jane, was very nice and did her best.

I think the ages of the women and the run down facilities are enough to make me not make any return trips. I essentially paid 2,000 baht for what in Pattaya could have gotten me three girls that would have worked there butts off just for the 100 baht tip. I will not repeat.

I've been at massage parlours in Pattaya some time ago. And I've paid 1600 - 2000 baht for each massage session. I find it hard to believe that massage prices have come down this much in Pattaya now.

Perhaps you've meant that if you take freelancers who sit on the Beach Road in Pattaya, then you could get 3 ladies for 2000 baht. But this is like comparing apples and oranges. Because the Beach Road ladies get all of the money you pay them. Whereas at the massage parlour, the owner gets a big cut in addition to the lady's payment.

And I'm surprised that you've managed to have two massage sessions at Tulip Massage for only 2000 Baht. No wonder the ladies weren't enthusiastic with you. You didn't pay them enough.

As for the age of the ladies, 28 years and up sounds pretty good to me. Some of the best soapy massages I've had were with ladies in their mid-30s.

Although I have to admit, my main purpose for going to a massage parlour is to grope and massage my massage lady and give her a good ride. Her sexual willingness and her ability to give a horny guy a good ride are a lot more important to me than her massage skills are. And from my own experience I can say that older ladies usually are better at this than younger ladies are.

Fon Tok

05-14-10, 19:01

...As soon as you go down the steps I see a bunch of disinterested women who are at least 28 years old plus...I've been to Tulip more than a few times and can say that the women were always smiling and interested when I scoped them out. Also, it's my experience that it's pretty hard to tell a Thai woman's age. I know for fact more than a couple girls who work there are under 25.

I decided to go back two days later thinking that the boring experience and the run down facilities was just a bad day. I chose another women who I dont remember her name but she had nice breasts. Again all of the women there are all older. She was ok like Jane..nothing spectacular...You went back again even though you had a boring experience the first time? Did you think they would paint the place and hire a few Cowboy junior dancers since you were there before? Why not try Mango, Snow White, or Ruba Dub Tug Tug on Soi 199?

Refused anal. I will not repeat.Maybe you should reconsider and ask nicer next time? They say three times is a charm!

BTW, nice shower pics!
;)

Rastafari

05-14-10, 20:37

I've been to Tulip more than a few times and can say that the women were always smiling and interested when I scoped them out. Also, it's my experience that it's pretty hard to tell a Thai woman's age. I know for fact more than a couple girls who work there are under 25.

You went back again even though you had a boring experience the first time? Did you think they would paint the place and hire a few Cowboy junior dancers since you were there before? Why not try Mango, Snow White, or Ruba Dub Tug Tug on Soi 199?

Maybe you should reconsider and ask nicer next time? They say three times is a charm!

BTW, nice shower pics!

;)Fon Tok - well done!

11Bravo

05-15-10, 09:04

I've been to Tulip more than a few times and can say that the women were always smiling and interested when I scoped them out. Can't say ALL were interested when I visited, but the ones that weren't just made it all the more easy to cull. Certainly a number in the potential pool left from which to choose. Which is the MAIN reason to go downstairs and select YOURSELF, so you can a)see in person, and b)judge their interest.

Showdown

05-15-10, 14:36

Dan7373

05-15-10, 15:29

Can't say ALL were interested when I visited, but the ones that weren't just made it all the more easy to cull. Certainly a number in the potential pool left from which to choose. Which is the MAIN reason to go downstairs and select YOURSELF, so you can a)see in person, and b)judge their interest.
How interested the ladies are depends a lot on the guy they are looking at.

If you look like an alcoholic, unclean, and unkempt, and without much money. Or if you show some disrespect with your non-verbal gestures and language. Then the massage ladies naturally will be less interested in you.

And let's face it, massage ladies do care about how sexy or unsexy a guy is even when everything else is okay about him. Massage ladies want to have some fun too, while they are working and earning their money. And with everything else being equal, they do prefer to go with the more sexy and the more handsome guys.

I know this from my own experience. One time I've walked into a massage parlor in Pattaya. And in the fishbowl there I saw a really tall, really sexy woman. She must've been well over 6 feet tall. And she was a lot taller than I was.

I liked her a lot and I wanted to take her for the soapy massage. But she avoided looking at me. And I ended up choosing another lady who boldly looked me right in the eye and clearly dared me to take her for a ride like a man.

Later on I saw that same tall, good-looking lady looking very unhappy while two big tall guys were bargaining with the papasan over what she could do with both of them at the same time.

Perhaps this lady was inexperienced. And she didn't yet know that an average guy like myself would've been happy to give her a big tip for an average ride. While a good-looking guy or guys who consider themselves her equals would really make her work for her money.

But in any case, I had a really good experience with the massage lady who stared me right in the eye and clearly dared me to be a man with her. She wasn't the best looking lady there. But there was chemistry between us. She was really good in bed with me. And I couldn't stay away from her. She welcomed and enjoyed my manhood like no other woman had welcomed and enjoyed before. Coupling with her was a real pleasure every time.

Raptors

05-15-10, 16:16

With regard to Tulips lots of the regular so called superstars have left in the meantime (left should be Nice and Dao) I think. Also Nadea I guess still works. Tulips has lost quite some people. And I have not seen a lot of report about new "superstars" so I guess it is a bit going down the hill, but it always had a good reputation for being service orientated and the girls always were good works, reputation for the shop itself (rooms etc.) always was lousy best to take them out after 9 PM if possible. Just some regular comment here.

Fon Tok

05-15-10, 17:47

A couple of points to make about the responses to my post:

1. I never said either lady was not nice or kind. My post points out that both were. The sex however was unspectacular. And it is fact that has been mentioned many times that the facilities are not up to par and clearly dampen the experience.

2. Contrary to the responses I was quite kind to each of the ladies and they were with me as well and as I stated in their post both ladies did their best.

3. I paid 2000 baht for each visit-1500 to the lady and the one hour fee(I think 500 baht) to the house.

4. Many of us have had a bad experience at a restaurant and still returned thinking it was just a bad waitress or a off night for the establishement. Thus I returned to Tulip again to hope for a better experience.

5. It is impossible that every lady working their is interested when you come down the steps. Some are tired, or reading or whatever. There is not a massage parlor, soapie or red light *****house in the world where every women is interested.

My report was factual and unbiased and I gave the establishment two chances to make it right. I dont hate Tulip-it just, as the title of my post said, was a disappointment to me.
You're obviously a straight up guy and your explanation is very clear. Sorry you did not have a good time at the flower shop.

I think all the tire smoke in the air has made me temporarily a bit of a smart ass. I was just having a bit of light sardonic fun with your post.

Chok dee to you!

11Bravo

05-16-10, 08:23

My report was factual and unbiased and I gave the establishment two chances to make it right. I dont hate Tulip-it just, as the title of my post said, was a disappointment to me.Enjoyed reading your FR, and NO disrespect intended.

Certainly the accommodations at Tulips have seen better days. If that detracts from you enjoyment, then it does.

MYSELF, I like the MP's just for the potluck atmosphere. Yes, the dish may look tempting, but it's the tasting that proves. At a popular soapy, I tried 3 different girls before finding 1 I got along with. And after several times of picking her, one evening intended to take her again, but she seemed rather disinterested during the line up, so picked another who DID give me the direct gaze and winning smile. Better experience with her too.

I was just pointing out that one really should go downstairs and pick a girl for himself, one that shows interest. My experience is that the front desk has a tendency to pick one for you:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=999289&postcount=1255

No guarantees, but certainly better odds than one who can't be bothered.

Likewise, for me, if the establishment has hot water, clean sheets, a/c, and I don't feel compelled to look around for some flip-flops when stepping on the floor, then that's fine. Once enjoying with the girl, the decor fades into the background. Of course, if I'm not enjoying, then maybe the decor would become more prominent.

was a disappointment to meWell, you know what they say about disappointment: just the difference between your fantasy and reality...

Showdown

05-21-10, 09:46

After reading so many posts regarding my experiences at Tulip I found myself pondering a third try. After all one of the posters suggested the third time is the charm.

Good decision on my part.

I went downstairs and chose the girl in the yellow shirt. Medium build seemed nice...I always like to see the chosen ladies initial reaction to me when I go downstairs, look at all of them and return upstairs to tell the hostess which one I am interested in. The lady I chose had a big smile on her face. The book in my opinion is useless. You need to see the ladies in the flesh.

Her name turned out to be Kat and she was fantastic. Great shower, anal first as a requested, a massage and then a BBBJ. Took the anal penetration like a champ. She orgasms easy and that was a good thing as it got her really in the mood. Fantastic session and a really nice girl. I would highly recommend her to everyone.

Thanks guys for suggesting I try again. :-)

Showdown.

Enjoyed reading your FR, and NO disrespect intended.

Certainly the accommodations at Tulips have seen better days. If that detracts from you enjoyment, then it does.

MYSELF, I like the MP's just for the potluck atmosphere. Yes, the dish may look tempting, but it's the tasting that proves. At a popular soapy, I tried 3 different girls before finding 1 I got along with. And after several times of picking her, one evening intended to take her again, but she seemed rather disinterested during the line up, so picked another who DID give me the direct gaze and winning smile. Better experience with her too.

I was just pointing out that one really should go downstairs and pick a girl for himself, one that shows interest. My experience is that the front desk has a tendency to pick one for you:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=999289&postcount=1255

No guarantees, but certainly better odds than one who can't be bothered.

Likewise, for me, if the establishment has hot water, clean sheets, a/c, and I don't feel compelled to look around for some flip-flops when stepping on the floor, then that's fine. Once enjoying with the girl, the decor fades into the background. Of course, if I'm not enjoying, then maybe the decor would become more prominent.

Well, you know what they say about disappointment: just the difference between your fantasy and reality...

11Bravo

05-21-10, 10:13

After reading so many posts regarding my experiences at Tulip I found myself pondering a third try.
...
The book in my opinion is useless. You need to see the ladies in the flesh.Glad it worked out for you. It's a given the decor is WAY past its prime, but there are some gems to be mined there. And once busy enjoying, I loose all track of where I am.

I agree, why anyone would use a book is beyond me - all you have to do is read all the comments here about "she didn't look anything like her photo"... I always want the 'face to face' lineup, so I can see her and gauge her reaction. A warm smile doesn't guarantee anything in the room but greater odds than with someone who can't be bothered.

Pita123

05-21-10, 17:31

Glad it worked out for you. It's a given the decor is WAY past its prime, but there are some gems to be mined there. And once busy enjoying, I loose all track of where I am.

A girl and I actually fell asleep cuddling in the afterglow once. I woke with a start and it took me a bit to remember where I was. :)

Fon Tok

05-29-10, 12:51

Stopped by the flower shop this afternoon to help my favorite lady celebrate her birthday. About 40 minutes into our 2-hour session she asked, "you want two lady for the second hour?" She said something about sanuk and lesbian show, which are both OK by me. "Sure, why not," I said.

The woman who joined us was a fun addition to the mix. The first woman said that she was "her teacher." I hopped in the shower with #2 and away we went. #1 brought out the vibrator I gave her awhile back, and pretty soon the sounds of fun and pleasure were in stereo. I held #1 in my arms as #2 licked her wet pussy. We changed around several times. Needless to say, I had my hands and mouth full for the rest of the session.

It is truly amazing how sexually enthusiastic these Tulip ladies can be. Twice as much fun if you take two!

Rastafari

05-29-10, 21:40

Stopped by the flower shop this afternoon to help my favorite lady celebrate her birthday. About 40 minutes into our 2-hour session she asked, "you want two lady for the second hour?" She said something about sanuk and lesbian show, which are both OK by me. "Sure, why not," I said.

The woman who joined us was a fun addition to the mix. The first woman said that she was "her teacher." I hopped in the shower with #2 and away we went. #1 brought out the vibrator I gave here awhile back, and pretty soon the sounds of fun and pleasure were in stereo. I held #1 in my arms as #2 licked her wet pussy. We changed around several times. Needless to say, I had my hands and mouth full for the rest of the session.

It is truly amazing how sexually enthusiastic these Tulip ladies can be. Twice as much fun if you take two!Hi Fon Tok,

Thanks a lot for your interesting report but it really only makes sense for all readers and members of the board to know the names of the ladies who does it makes so nice and memorable for you!...and hopefully for all those who wants to get it, nearly or almost, maybe in the next days or future. Names would be very desirable!

Barko

05-30-10, 03:41

Twice as much fun if you take two!Careful, it's addicting. :D

Fon Tok

05-30-10, 04:19

Hi Fon Tok, Thanks a lot for your interesting report but it really only makes sense for all readers and members of the board to know the names of the ladies who does it makes so nice and memorable for you!...and hopefully for all those who wants to get it, nearly or almost, maybe in the next days or future. Names would be very desirable!I prefer not to give specific referrals unless I think a service provider can please 90% of her customers (i.e., looks, attitude, sexual ability and desire). One man's pleasure often can be another man's nightmare.

At Tulip it is very easy to review the ladies prior to going upstairs. You can talk with them to see if they can do what you want. Currently, at least from my tastes, not all of the ladies there are beautiful. But what they lack in looks is often made up for in the room. For example, in the encounter I described, I would have never chosen the #2 lady from a lineup, but she turned out to be a lot of fun and it all worked out.

Personally, I think it is better to pick a Tulip lady based on your own tastes, try her out, build some rapport during subsequent visits, and then if she is willing, add one of her friends for a threesome! The success of the threesome really depends on how much the ladies like each other...the rest is cake!

11Bravo

05-30-10, 12:29

At Tulip it is very easy to review the ladies prior to going upstairs. You can talk with them to see if they can do what you want.

Personally, I think it is better to pick a Tulip lady based on your own tastes, try her out, build some rapport during subsequent visits, and then if she is willing, add one of her friends for a threesome! The success of the threesome really depends on how much the ladies like each other...the rest is cake!Great advice, and the advantage of being able to go downstairs, take an up close and personal look, chat, and find one that YOU like.

I'm always a bit hesitant to provide names/numbers of those who go that extra mile with me as no guarantee the service/experience will be repeated with others (hell, it could be exceeded with someone else). Like you say, it all comes down to the individuals.

Thanks a lot for your interesting report but it really only makes sense for all readers and members of the board to know the names of the ladies who does it makes so nice and memorable for you!...and hopefully for all those who wants to get it, nearly or almost, maybe in the next days or future. Names would be very desirable!Always amazes me, the few posts'ers asking for details while never providing any of their own... (5 years, 3 posts, no FR's)

Daddy San

05-30-10, 13:58

.....
At Tulip it is very easy to review the ladies prior to going upstairs. You can talk with them to see if they can do what you want. ....
Hi Fon Tok,
I am a regular at Tulip, although I tend to stray to Mango nowadays.
I always do go downstairs to pick a lady, but I stay at the bottom of the stairs and make a visual choice.
Never have I ventured to interview the ladies as to their service offering.
It just does not seem "proper" to me, to ask publically, i.e. in front of all the others, if she is willing to rim me and let me do her back door...
You either have no such inhibitions, or I must have misunderstood you..

Fon Tok

05-30-10, 19:57

Hi Fon Tok,
I am a regular at Tulip...
Never have I ventured to interview the ladies as to their service offering. It just does not seem "proper" to me, to ask publically, i.e. in front of all the others...You either have no such inhibitions, or I must have misunderstood you..Proper mongering? I like that.

Me? Sometimes I ask questions to make sure I get what I want.
Living in Bangkok for awhile tends to make inhibitions go away.
Especially when the tequila is flowing...
Fcuk toot?

Trust me. The girls don't care. It's all about the baht...

NicFrenchy

05-31-10, 18:07

Trust me. The girls don't care. It's all about the baht...

I wish they could print this and plaster it all over the country... maybe there would be less idiot Farangs trying to seduce the local Prostitutes thinking "this one loves me, she's really different"

1Ball

05-31-10, 23:22

I wish they could print this and plaster it all over the country... maybe there would be less idiot Farangs trying to seduce the local Prostitutes thinking "this one loves me, she's really different"
But she does, she is ......really, I swear.

This one REALLY is different.

Kuratla

06-01-10, 04:13

Fon Tok

06-01-10, 05:04

If we treat them like wh*res, then that is what we will get...Perhaps... just perhaps... if we treat them like human beings then we will see a better side to them...Tarring all working women with the same brush seems to be a bit one-sided to me. Indeed, even cheating yourself out of a better experience...Radical thinking, I agree. Or perhaps I'm just an optimistic idealist (aka "idiot Farang") lol..Seriously, at the end of the day, which is preferred? Raw sex or raw sex with a touch of love - even if that love is an illusion?..Which do you pay for?There is no reason to treat a P4P lady bad. Actually, treating them well gets you more value for your money (and possibly a better acting performance).

But always remember, you pay for sex. Real friendship and love comes free.
Even that usually has it costs, though.

I guess you've not been burned enough (yet)? :D

11Bravo

06-01-10, 05:51

My experience, the nicer you treat them (as in being a nice guy, not a pushover or atm), the more care and detail they put into the facade. Just remember, it is a facade, with a VERY weak foundation.

Kuratla

06-01-10, 06:54

I guess you've not been burned enough (yet)? :D

I'm closing in on a decade living in BKK. So, yeah, I've been burnt plenty. But I put that down to the individual and don't sterotype working women as a whole.

Perception is 9/10 of reality, my friends. If your perception is that they are all heartless harlots, then that is what they will be for you. That is what you will expect and that is what you will get.

Granted, a percentage... probably a large percentage... are indeed your classic wh*re but I see no reason to view them all as such.

Some of the best, kindest, sincerest people I have met in my long time in this country have been working women. As well, some of the worst people... people who would stab me in the back given the slightest chance... have also been working women.

Again, I put it down to the individual.

We all talk about the jaded, money-grubbing prostitutes of LOS. How about the jaded wh*remongers? You ruin the experience by becoming one.

NicFrenchy

06-01-10, 07:24

If we treat them like wh*res, then that is what we will get.

Perhaps... just perhaps... if we treat them like human beings then we will see a better side to them.

Tarring all working women with the same brush seems to be a bit one-sided to me. Indeed, even cheating yourself out of a better experience.

Radical thinking, I agree. Or perhaps I'm just an optimistic idealist (aka "idiot Farang") lol

Seriously, at the end of the day, which is preferred? Raw sex or raw sex with a touch of love - even if that love is an illusion?

Which do you pay for?

My point wasn't to treat them badly, but to try and open the eyes of some Idiot tourists that come here and fall in love with the first pussy they fuck. The girl will tell him how much she loves him and he will fall for this because this could be the 3rd girls he ever fucked in his life.

It's a game and it needs to be played. Be nice, gentle but Firm. YOU are the one in command. She will ask for things but it is up to you to say no, she will try to see how far she can go, how big a sucker you are. This isn't her fault, they are taught this way and treated this way by thai guys.

Be nice, but play the game right, don't fall in love, just take it as it is... an illusion.

Centaurus

06-08-10, 02:48

Tulip's website now has pics of the girls. Some look like they look, some don't. ;)

www.tulipmassage.com

Kuratla

06-08-10, 06:59

Some look like they look, some don't. ;)

Quite right.

Dan7373

06-08-10, 16:43

My point wasn't to treat them badly, but to try and open the eyes of some Idiot tourists that come here and fall in love with the first pussy they fuck. The girl will tell him how much she loves him and he will fall for this because this could be the 3rd girls he ever fucked in his life.

It's a game and it needs to be played. Be nice, gentle but Firm. YOU are the one in command. She will ask for things but it is up to you to say no, she will try to see how far she can go, how big a sucker you are. This isn't her fault, they are taught this way and treated this way by thai guys.

Be nice, but play the game right, don't fall in love, just take it as it is... an illusion.
I was coming to Thailand for about 4 years, before I fell for my Thai lady and ended up in a long-term relationship with her. And she definitely wasn't the 3rd girl I've ever been with. I've lost count of the Thai ladies I've been with, by the time I fell for her.

I think most western guys take some time to understand the girlfriend-like relationship of their Thai ladies. At first, most guys are suspicious and see it only as a kind of deception or pretense. They tend to look at their encounters with Thai ladies as a kind of western style prostitution, where it's only an exchange of sex for money without any real affection involved.

But the thing is that a lot of Thai P4P ladies truly are looking for a long-term relationship with the right western guy. The hope of finding the right western man for a long-term relationship is the main reason why a lot Thai ladies get into the P4P business in the first place. I know this because I've met some of these ladies in Isaan villages, including a couple of ladies who were going to work in Pattaya for the first time. These ladies weren't talking about making a lot of money. They were talking about finding the right western man and bringing him home for a relationship.

Which is different from the way most western prostitutes behave. And western guys who end up meeting and meating a lot of Thai ladies eventually open up their cultural eyes and see this difference.

Of course, not every Thai lady finds a long-term man for herself. But this doesn't stop them from trying.

And western guys fall for Thai ladies not so much because they are ignorant and naive, but because they get lonely and realize that changing ladies all the time without any attachment or real affection isn't that much fun anymore. Sex is fun only for an hour or so. But you have 23 hours more to go during the day. And eventually you will want to make those remaining 23 hours fun too. Which you can do through some true romance and friendship with the right Thai lady.

Canyon

06-08-10, 19:24

Dan,

I think you've got the right idea on how to enjoy a relationship with a Thai woman.

Canyon

Theant

06-17-10, 06:07

New Tulip site:
http://www.tulipmassage.net/

Very basic, only girls photos and shop card.

Barracuda Mike

06-22-10, 03:09

Tried booking Nice(Nigh) for a session for my upcoming visit next week, but was told by reception that she is not working any more. Is this true or did I understand wrongly?

Daddy San

06-23-10, 14:54

New Tulip site:
http://www.tulipmassage.net/
Very basic, only girls photos and shop card.

Most of the time, the website cannot be reached, and if it is, it is VERY slow and above all, the girls pics come up as empty placeholders.

Does the site work for anybody?
And if so, where are you located?
I am in Germany and it could be a geographical block.

Gaienmae08

06-23-10, 16:23

Most of the time, the website cannot be reached, and if it is, it is VERY slow and above all, the girls pics come up as empty placeholders.

Does the site work for anybody?
And if so, where are you located?
I am in Germany and it could be a geographical block.
Works for me fine; I am in Japan.

David 2

06-23-10, 19:13

Does the site work for anybody?
And if so, where are you located?
I am in Germany and it could be a geographical block.
Works great for me, too. I'm in the US

Karaoke22

06-23-10, 22:05

Most of the time, the website cannot be reached, and if it is, it is VERY slow and above all, the girls pics come up as empty placeholders.

Does the site work for anybody?

And if so, where are you located?

I am in Germany and it could be a geographical block.France, Ok!

Kuratla

06-24-10, 07:59

Tried booking Nice(Nigh) for a session for my upcoming visit next week, but was told by reception that she is not working any more. Is this true or did I understand wrongly?

Apparently there has been some conflict at Tulip between three girls (Nice, Nadia, and Jane) and management. Currently those three girls are not working for Tulip anymore. Whether this conflict will be resolved and they will return to work or not remains to be seen.

Rastafari

06-24-10, 08:21

Most of the time, the website cannot be reached, and if it is, it is VERY slow and above all, the girls pics come up as empty placeholders.

Does the site work for anybody?

And if so, where are you located?

I am in Germany and it could be a geographical block.Works very fast as usual, I'm in Germany too.

Barracuda Mike

06-25-10, 07:57

Apparently there has been some conflict at Tulip between three girls (Nice, Nadia, and Jane) and management. Currently those three girls are not working for Tulip anymore. Whether this conflict will be resolved and they will return to work or not remains to be seen.Thank you Mr. Kuratla for your reply. Yes, I too have ascertained the same from Tulip management. But I have not been able to reach Nice on her mobile, probably due to the incessant rains there. Well have to settle for someone else then.

Daddy San

06-25-10, 12:34

Thanks for all your feedback.
After Rastafati's post, I tried my backup ISP, (I have two, my main ISP, one of the cable providers, very fast, but not very reliable in the past and therefore another, the market leader in Germany, with a very slow connection), and lo and behold, the site came up no prob.
So it is clearly the cable ISP, who is somehow blocking.
I don't think its even intentional on their part, but it would be somewhat embarrassing to inquire why a particular whoring site is not working!

TimTimGuy

06-26-10, 13:30

i don’t know much about the departure of the three ladies (nice, nadia, and jane) (see kuratla’s report below), but i am sure that tulip doesn’t lack for talent. (actually, i do know that nice was unhappy, but the reasons for that unhappiness are nobody’s business, including mine.)

about two weeks back, i had an unexpected “lay-over” in bangkok as a result of lost luggage (in singapore, can you believe it?) and a busted connection. having 12 hours in bangkok is not a bad thing. at the time, i was angry at the airlines and the 21st century in general. i figured that a bj was exactly what i needed. i parked my luggage and headed out, with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s in mind. before i got there i realized that i could have fine dining, rather than fast food, so to speak. i changed course to tulip.

when i arrived, some guy was at the desk poring over the book. i suggested that he just go downstairs and pick somebody. he hesitated and was still looking at the pictures when i went upstairs with my lady du jour, someone i had not selected before.

the fates smiled on ttg. we both enjoy oral pleasures, evidently, but after i gave her a pound-the-walls daty session -–ttg prides himself on his ability to use his tongue-- i got back all i gave, and more. we went 3 rounds, and she was trying to give me number 4 when time was up. i haven’t had 4 pops in 2 hours since my misspent youth but the attempt was .... nice?

so it may be “farewell” to 3 stars, but there are many more in the constellation.

~ttg

p.s. i wrote this report from boring narita airport, where i spent the night because of yet another missed connecting flight. is it me??

Traveller China

06-29-10, 12:03

Dropped by the other day and went downstairs. A fairly disinterested bunch was sitting primly on the couch and I was about to leave, when streaking in from the left came a woman with a winning smile. I wasted no time and picked her as she at least smiled. Turned out to be a great choice.

Once in the room she asks how many times I can manage. I say two, and she looks disappointed: "Me strong, we can do at least three". Well, what can a guy say in a situation like that? Bring it on!

The usual shower and all, and she has an excellent head on her shoulders. She was up for anything. Her head on the couch with me slowly moving junior in and out between her puckered lips. Her lubed up sphincter welcoming me. It was all there.

After the first round, she spent a few minutes massaging bloodflow back to my groin, and soon enough we were going at it again.

She has the makings of a star: Insatiable appetite, skills to match and the GFE we clamor for at times. I will be back.

I will divulge her name in PM only, and only to those with a track-record of reporting well and treating the ladies well.

Sonic

06-29-10, 20:43

On my last visit to Bangkok, I made a point of paying a visit to Tulips for some 3 hole action.

As described in previous reports, the shops is right next to Tong Lor Skytrain station, very easy to find.

It's a bit of a weird setup with a hair salon area by the front door and the cashiers desk a few steps away where you can select a girl from a photo album.

The rooms are very old and grotty and desperately in need of a facelift.

I can't remember the name of the girl I took now, but she was very enthusiastic and very energetic. It was a very intense 2 hour session which left me very satisfied.

The place is so desperately dilapdated an all the girls here are very average looking in my opinion, but the excellent service offered here makes it worth a visit.

Raptors

07-01-10, 18:10

Apparently there has been some conflict at Tulip between three girls (Nice, Nadia, and Jane) and management. Currently those three girls are not working for Tulip anymore. Whether this conflict will be resolved and they will return to work or not remains to be seen.Well according to my information.

Jane and Nadia have opened their own massage salon in Soi 39 called Victoria Massage.

Interesting very near tulips - could really be some problems there.

Barracuda Mike

07-02-10, 03:34

Well according to my information.

Jane and Nadia have opened their own massage salon in Soi 39 called Victoria Massage.

Interesting very near tulips - could really be some problems there.Yes, this is true. Interesting competition and good days for Tulip kinda special treatment lovers!

Meanwhile, Nice has left this profession for good and is back in her hometown.

Tricky3000

07-02-10, 05:18

Well according to my information.

Jane and Nadia have opened their own massage salon in Soi 39 called Victoria Massage.

Interesting very near tulips - could really be some problems there.What would be the problem (or are you saying that there could really be a problem at Tulip?)? Soi 39 is as near to Tulip as Snow White, Mango (though I've read here that Mango and Tulip are connected -- I know the mamasans are former-Tulips but are the businesses connected by ownership?), Angel, and a ton of others. It seems the de rigueur move for disgruntled Tulips is to leave and open their own shop. Phrom Phong is proven as good stomping grounds for those.

Belchere

07-03-10, 03:21

What would be the problem (or are you saying that there could really be a problem at Tulip?)? Soi 39 is as near to Tulip as Snow White, Mango (though I've read here that Mango and Tulip are connected -- I know the mamasans are former-Tulips but are the businesses connected by ownership?), Angel, and a ton of others. It seems the de rigueur move for disgruntled Tulips is to leave and open their own shop. Phrom Phong is proven as good stomping grounds for those.I saw Jane yesterday around soi 39... she offered to take me to the shop. I had some spared time and accepted her offer but could not stay for a session.

The shop is located about 10-15 minutes from the main Sukhumvit Road. The exact location is soi Prom-si, right opposite the gas station. SOi Prom-si connects soi 39 with soi 49. It is the Same soi as the Racquet Club. Opera Restaurant and Music Academy are the nearby landmarks. It is a nice neighborhood.

Nadia and Jane have taken over the former Sweet Massage and will be called Victoria Massage. Yesterday was the first day in what it looked like a soft-opening. They haven't posted the Victoria sign yet! so it remains Sweet.

It is a great shop with nice and spacious rooms. There are two VIp rooms with bath-tubs and actual beds, vs. mattresses. Other rooms also have japanese beds with thick mattresses. No shower curtains but shower enclosures.

Eventually they will improve the lighting in the hallways as it seemed a bit dark. They showed me around, I believe there are a total of 12 rooms or so in three floors. There is a reception area at the ground level with a nice lounge and bar area with sofas to sit. There is a mezzanine floor without rooms.

Not many girls, only three. One of them looked fairly young, nice looking barely 19. Two others seemed older in mid 20's, average looks. Nadia and Jane could do "massage" until newcomers settle in.

They tell me girls keep walking in and asking terms and conditions to stay. But few decide to stay when they are told the Tulip principles. Recruitment is ongoing.

I was told Nice will be coming back to Bangkok. No mention that she is retired and could even resume work at Victoria (30% chance).

They are trying to figure out how to get a nice website up and running. One of the segments they are targetting are people laying-over in Bkk for a number of hours and looking to get a "massage".

According to them, access to the shop from or to airport-link train stations: Main Makkassan-Asoke Station (via Petchburi Road) or the Klong-tan station near Ekamai (I think it's called Ramkhanjeang Station-via Thonglor-Petchburi Rd) is fairly easy even at peak traffic times.

M P Lurker

07-03-10, 07:31

I saw Jane yesterday around soi 39... she offered to take me to the shop. I had some spared time and accepted her offer but could not stay for a session.

The shop is located about 10-15 minutes from the main Sukhumvit Road. The exact location is soi Prom-si, right opposite the gas station. SOi Prom-si connects soi 39 with soi 49. It is the Same soi as the Racquet Club. Opera Restaurant and Music Academy are the nearby landmarks. It is a nice neighborhood.

Marked on Map:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.737363,100.570543&spn=0.012756,0.016437&z=16&iwloc=000448486e26686f3dc36

Sonic

07-04-10, 21:42

Pita123

07-04-10, 22:52

Marked on Map:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.737363,100.570543&spn=0.012756,0.016437&z=16&iwloc=000448486e26686f3dc36

Thanks! What a horrible location. Am I missing something which makes this location convenient in anything other than a taxi or motorbike?

Dveight

07-05-10, 02:19

Thanks! What a horrible location. Am I missing something which makes this location convenient in anything other than a taxi or motorbike?

Its literally down the steps of the Thong Lor BTS station, so it is pretty convenient by BTS as well.

Dveight

07-05-10, 02:20

Its literally down the steps of the Thong Lor BTS station, so it is pretty convenient by BTS as well.

Ooops...never mind...didn't read all the thread....sorry.

Tricky3000

07-05-10, 09:53

Thanks! What a horrible location. Am I missing something which makes this location convenient in anything other than a taxi or motorbike?I guess to each his own, but 1km/10 minutes from Suk just isn't that terrible a walk for me.

Pita123

07-10-10, 08:45

I guess to each his own, but 1km/10 minutes from Suk just isn't that terrible a walk for me.

So I checked it out today. It is a long ass schlep. There are plenty of mini songteaws around and motorbikes, but the walk is long and hot. The facility is excellent. I don't like removing my shoes and walking around the whole place without slippers as it increases the chances of catching something from someone else's feet.

Big mirror in the shower. Big mirror next to the bed. Spacious room. The girl I was with has been working 3 days. Aom. Hardly any kissing. No special nothing. No DFK. No rimming. No CIM. Had to instruct that BJ was BB. Very short. B-cups I guess. Firm cheeks. She doesn't seem to understand where she's working, but she was fun to be with. Much better English than when Ant was fresh off the farm. She has some warts or some shit on her fingers which is disturbing.

The place has parking so perhaps it isn't meant for us mongers that get around by foot.

NicFrenchy

07-10-10, 09:13

WTF, the Victoria post looks like an Advertizing....

Suntangh R

07-15-10, 13:52

Last when I met her in June 10, she seemed quite contended. We had long chats after long sessions. She did have plans of opening a bakery for her sister in their village or thereabouts. But there was no talk of an impending exit from Tulip.

Would like to know her whereabouts; and whether she would in any way be connected with Victoria massage. She was one with whom you could communicate "pelvically" and cerebrally too.

Fon Tok

07-16-10, 04:46

Centaurus

07-16-10, 04:53

Dan7373

07-17-10, 15:28

I stopped in at Tulip yesterday afternoon for a lazy, steamy 2-hr session with my favorite flower shopgirl.

My lady "P" was in good form...bj as I undressed, anal in the shower, a light oil massage, long slow sex with her on top to a nice satisfying finish for me.

She wanted more, but I was tired from partying the night before, so out came a vibrator I gave her awhile back, and as I half dozed while playing with her nipples, she gave herself a powerful climax.

We laughed at lot. Then I walked out into the rain, caught the Skytrain home, and woke up my little go-go dancer from the night before still sleeping in my bed.
It sounds like your lady 'P' might be lady PIM shown here:
http://www.tulipmassage.net/

She looks like the kind of lady who would ride a guy slowly for a long time, just to please him. Everything about her says 'nice and soft' rather than 'hard and fast'. Although she probably wouldn't mind taking it hard and fast from her guy, as long as he is on top and does all the work.

If it's true that opposites attract. Then a hard and fast type of guy would be a good match for a nice and soft lady like PIM, as long as he gets to be on top of her.

But the massage lady showing you with her orgasm that she enjoys having sex too really is what the doctor has ordered for your psychological satisfaction with her. Because true enjoyment of relating to another, sexually or otherwise, is mutual enjoyment.

When only you enjoy and the lady doesn't, then her body is there but her mind is elsewhere. Which isn't much different from banging a plastic doll, who has no sexual desire or feelings.

DATY for the massage lady and outright masturbation of her, when her well-lubricated clit ends up close to the guy's hand, is what a lot of guys do to provide sexual enjoyment for their lady and make it mutual for both of them.

And it's nice to see some massage ladies understand this principle of mutual enjoyment and make themselves orgasm for the guy. Although this kind of thing probably works best when the guy participates in bringing his lady to orgasm. Such as playing with her nipples and sucking on them, while she masturbates herself or massages her erect clit with humming vibrator.

Mar Deepack

07-26-10, 22:19

Who is the 2 ladies give now top-hot service?

(anal-threesome)

Suntangh R

07-27-10, 12:58

Mardeep,

Just brush up your English writing skills.

A small advice! Shows Indians in a bad light!

Fast Eddie 48

08-06-10, 05:09

I got a great service from Gop last night very GFE experience offer everything in the menu BBBJ, Rimming and anal 90 min service for 2100 bht total 2 shots highly remommend, will check out Lotion massage next door tonight.

Fast Eddie 48

TimTimGuy

08-07-10, 02:29

I arrived in Bangkok after spending a few days with a woman friend in Indonesia. She left me fairly worn out, but I was pretty sure that a visit to the Flower Shop would properly greet me to the LOS. I was right.

I arrived at Tulip before 9 p.m. and asked to meet the ladies down stairs. I actually don’t remember the last time I went downstairs. When I met Nice? Was it THAT long ago? Anyway, I was surprised at first by how few girls were there. Maybe six were interested, with a few others gathering their kit for a departure. I chatted up a few and asked one if she would be interested in an overnight with TTG. Asked and accepted. Pretty smile, nice figure, limited English. Non-stop talking all the way to my hotel. She asked if she talked too much. I told her “Yes, but I will tell you when to be quiet!”

I showered first, while she fussed and undressed. I asked her to join me in the shower. “Ab nam duii?” “Kaa!” First look at all the goodies. Very nice, more than nice. Pretty boobs with pencil eraser nipples, good legs, great figure.

We got settled in bed and had a great session. I told her then "time to be quiet!" At one point, she was using my big toe to rub her clit (her idea) while giving me a BBBJ (my idea). A first for TTG. Two pops then we slept. She woke me up at about 4 a.m. for a third session…during that session she had her 4th “Big O” if I remember correctly. There’s no other conceivable reason to slap the bed and make growling noises while having sex with me at 0400.

At 0730, I had to go to work. My companion begged and pleaded to stay (for sleep, not sex). Getting her up and out was not the high point of the event. ~TTG

Erin1234

08-07-10, 15:45

El Greco

08-08-10, 01:26

I am new to Bangkok and I will be visiting BKK next week. I would like to know what the prices for massage parlors such as Tulip and Victoria.

Also I would like to know if someone can explain the difference between Thai massage and oily massage.

Thanks for any input.

Thai massage is the traditional old massage. It's a mixture of massage and Greek-Roman wrestling.LOL Very nice and relaxing when done by a real professional otherwise you might get some injury.An older lady in other words is the perfect person for that and preferably in other places dedicated to that kind of massage only than Tulip. Two hours is my choice for that kind of massage. The cost is about 200 Baht/hour.

Oil massage is more gentle and most of the times erotic followed by a HJ or BJ. They use baby oil for that. It is the common massage in places like Tulip followed by a full service (FJ) as an extra.

400 Baht/hour for the oily massage to the shop and 500 tip for HJ -1.000 for BJ or 1.500 for FJ to the girl for her extra services whether you take the one, one and half or two hours treatment.

Try the 2 hr for your first time at TULIP and make sure you also visit a soapy massage taking the full body massage on the air mattress. Depending on the place it might be for 90 min or two hours and from 1.700 to 3.000 on average FJ included in the price. Tipping there is optional and up to you. I tip them 300-500 if I leave with a happy smile or zero if I am not.

Hope it helps.

TimTimGuy

08-08-10, 02:31

Qubei

08-08-10, 18:00

Thai massage is the traditional old massage. It's a mixture of massage and Greek-Roman wrestling.LOL Very nice and relaxing when done by a real professional otherwise you might get some injury.An older lady in other words is the perfect person for that and preferably in other places dedicated to that kind of massage only than Tulip. Two hours is my choice for that kind of massage. The cost is about 200 Baht/hour.

Oil massage is more gentle and most of the times erotic followed by a HJ or BJ. They use baby oil for that. It is the common massage in places like Tulip followed by a full service (FJ) as an extra.

400 Baht/hour for the oily massage to the shop and 500 tip for HJ -1.000 for BJ or 1.500 for FJ to the girl for her extra services whether you take the one, one and half or two hours treatment.

Try the 2 hr for your first time at TULIP and make sure you also visit a soapy massage taking the full body massage on the air mattress. Depending on the place it might be for 90 min or two hours and from 1.700 to 3.000 on average FJ included in the price. Tipping there is optional and up to you. I tip them 300-500 if I leave with a happy smile or zero if I am not.

Hope it helps.

Hi El Greco,

Good advice, in the forum a lot of information can be found on oil massage places and bars/discos, do you have any suggestions for a good soapy massage place? Can not remember reading about one.

Thanks

//Q

Erin1234

08-08-10, 18:15

Thank you. Your response is very informative.

I have also followed TimTim's suggestion on the Tulip website.

Thank you both. I will write a report after I visit Tulip, Annies and/or Paradise later this month.

Thai massage is the traditional old massage. It's a mixture of massage and Greek-Roman wrestling.LOL Very nice and relaxing when done by a real professional otherwise you might get some injury.An older lady in other words is the perfect person for that and preferably in other places dedicated to that kind of massage only than Tulip. Two hours is my choice for that kind of massage. The cost is about 200 Baht/hour.

Oil massage is more gentle and most of the times erotic followed by a HJ or BJ. They use baby oil for that. It is the common massage in places like Tulip followed by a full service (FJ) as an extra.

400 Baht/hour for the oily massage to the shop and 500 tip for HJ -1.000 for BJ or 1.500 for FJ to the girl for her extra services whether you take the one, one and half or two hours treatment.

Try the 2 hr for your first time at TULIP and make sure you also visit a soapy massage taking the full body massage on the air mattress. Depending on the place it might be for 90 min or two hours and from 1.700 to 3.000 on average FJ included in the price. Tipping there is optional and up to you. I tip them 300-500 if I leave with a happy smile or zero if I am not.

Hope it helps.

BionicMan

08-08-10, 21:03

Hi El Greco,

Good advice, in the forum a lot of information can be found on oil massage places and bars/discos, do you have any suggestions for a good soapy massage place? Can not remember reading about one.

Thanks

//Q

How much did you RTFF?
As a starting point go for Annie's and more...

Dan7373

08-15-10, 15:02

....

I showered first, while she fussed and undressed. I asked her to join me in the shower. “Ab nam duii?” “Kaa!” First look at all the goodies. Very nice, more than nice. Pretty boobs with pencil eraser nipples, good legs, great figure.

We got settled in bed and had a great session. I told her then "time to be quiet!" At one point, she was using my big toe to rub her clit (her idea) while giving me a BBBJ (my idea). A first for TTG. Two pops then we slept. She woke me up at about 4 a.m. for a third session…during that session she had her 4th “Big O” if I remember correctly. There’s no other conceivable reason to slap the bed and make growling noises while having sex with me at 0400.

At 0730, I had to go to work. My companion begged and pleaded to stay (for sleep, not sex). Getting her up and out was not the high point of the event. ~TTG

It would nice if you say her name. This lady sounds pretty good to me. But how can I ask for her at Tulip Massage, when I don't know her name? It's not as if these ladies are shy about revealing their identities. You can find their pictures and names at http://www.tulipmassage.net

Rubbing the lady's clit is something I like to do, with my hand and not with my toe. And this lady sounds like someone who would appreciate such attention from me, provided that I use plenty of lubricant of course.

And your description of her nipples sounds pretty good to me too. It's not something a guy would know about the lady just by looking at her in the lobby. When a guy is looking for a massage lady with big nipples, then he has to do it by trial and error. Unless someone like you who has been with the lady tells everyone about her nipples.

Fon Tok

08-15-10, 18:36

It would nice if you say her name. This lady sounds pretty good to me. But how can I ask for her at Tulip Massage, when I don't know her name? It's not as if these ladies are shy about revealing their identities. You can find their pictures and names at http://www.tulipmassage.net
Tulip girls do read the ISG. I know this as one of my favorites mentioned a report and my ISG handle in passing, although I don't think she made the connection.

So, a good report, when they are named, is looked on (by the girls) as a plus in their eyes (and the management's), and a bad report is not appreciated.

So, it really depends on how you feel about it. Would you want your employer to read something less than shining about you on the internet without any recourse, or possibility of a truthful defense?

Better to use a PM for specific referrals...

BionicMan

08-15-10, 22:39

Tulip girls do read the ISG. I know this as one of my favorites mentioned a report and my ISG handle in passing, although I don't think she made the connection.

So, a good report, when they are named, is looked on (by the girls) as a plus in their eyes (and the management's), and a bad report is not appreciated.

So, it really depends on how you feel about it. Would you want your employer to read something less than shining about you on the internet without any recourse, or possibility of a truthful defense?

Better to use a PM for specific referrals...Fair enough, but aren't we here to exchange useful information.
Or are we here to give unclear information so we share the bad experience wit all?
I mean, there are many ways (also nice ones) to comment negatively on a girl or on a specific service, but it should be done.
Maybe the girl can even learn from it.
Look at how Aye of Annies is specifically putting open questions, albeit not giving full infos, I agree, on some girls. She prefers anonimity as being the employer she needs to mantain a certain degree of "distance".
But we are the paying customers.
We dont give fake bills to pay poor services, but full value banknotes...

Traveler1234

08-15-10, 22:47

Tulip girls do read the ISG.
So.....a bad report is not appreciated.

No flame intended, but I thought we're here to share info? If tulip girls are reading, all the better...maybe bad service will improve next time?

TimTimGuy

08-16-10, 00:23

Martin00

08-16-10, 17:55

Are the prices and quality of Tulip comparable as Annie's?

Martin00

08-16-10, 17:56

Maybe was just a bad experience?

Fon Tok

08-16-10, 22:28

No flame intended, but I thought we're here to share info? If tulip girls are reading, all the better...maybe bad service will improve next time?Point well taken. If the girls actually understand the comments, then maybe they will make changes.

But one man's greatest sex-capade might feel like a run in the mill roll for another. How are we to know what "par" is in the case of a good or bad report? Some guys like PSE, other like GFE. People have "off" days, too -- both mongers and service providers. A bad report can seriously hurt a girl's chances for "request" income.

Management is not always understanding, as the major talent exodus at Tulip may be an indication of this.

I named my favorite Tulip girl the first time I had her, then I got to know her very well. Later I had second thoughts about doing this as I got to know her better as a person, and less as a three hole receptacle.

Vittu

08-17-10, 02:44

From a post: "It would nice if you say her name. This lady sounds pretty good to me. But how can I ask for her at Tulip Massage, when I don't know her name? It's not as if these ladies are shy about revealing their identities."

Just tell them in farang talk, "Sneaky balls want rocket tits." They know whom you mean. Works every time.

Dan7373

08-21-10, 14:11

Tulip girls do read the ISG. I know this as one of my favorites mentioned a report and my ISG handle in passing, although I don't think she made the connection.

So, a good report, when they are named, is looked on (by the girls) as a plus in their eyes (and the management's), and a bad report is not appreciated.

So, it really depends on how you feel about it. Would you want your employer to read something less than shining about you on the internet without any recourse, or possibility of a truthful defense?

Better to use a PM for specific referrals...
Not every customer is going to be fair in his feedback. But when several customers write about their experience with a massage lady, then the truth about her will most likely come out.

If you believe that your feedback is honest and fair, then you should feel free to say it in public. Because it benefits everyone, including the lady. Guys reading your feedback can better decide which lady they'd like to see. And ladies reading your feedback will know whether they need to improve or do more of the same.

I think most massage ladies would like to hear some honest feedback from their customers. Because this is the way for them to know how to improve their service. And ladies reading about each other in this forum can learn from each other about how to do well with the guys.

It's not possible for anyone to improve without any honest and open feedback.

Dan7373

08-21-10, 14:48

hmmm....I just don't post this kind of information anymore. My experience is, posting specific names lead too many problems for the shops and the girls. YMMV, y'know?

I am always happy to share information by PM with serious and experienced members.

TTG
I got your private message with this lady's name. Thanks for the info.

And I suppose you are right that just because the lady went an extra mile with you doesn't necessarily mean that she will do the same with every guy. Because not every guy is equally generous, and not every guy is equally nice with the lady.

But still it's nice to know what the lady is capable of, before you go to see her. Because that way you know which lady to be very nice and very generous with to bring out the best in her.

You can shower an inexperienced lady with all kinds of money and gifts. And she won't do any better with you, because she won't know how. But an experienced massage lady who has the skill and the endurance to please guys many times will try to get multiple-pops out of you, when you do more for her.

Nvslim

08-22-10, 12:31

Was looking over the Tulip website and noticed Ant.
http://www.tulipmassage.net/images/thumbnail/TN_201-ANT.JPG

She appears to be the prettiest flower in the garden.

Any updates on her?

Thanks,
Slim

Syzygies

08-22-10, 14:58

No flame intended, but I thought we're here to share info? If tulip girls are reading, all the better...maybe bad service will improve next time?
T1234, You probably are aware that direct criticism is not well accepted in Thailand. It may help the girl improve, but she probably won't have the best attitude about who wrote it.
Its fine if you can be completely anonymous and your real identity is not revealed.
I know who you are :D We once took a trip together to Tulip from Livingstone's. Fortunately I am not one of the bad ISGers who would reveal identities. But my point is guys who write excessively negative stuff can get a bad name at some establishment once someone works out who they are. Only those that are totally anonymous can get away with negative stuff.

I often get into trouble in Thailand if I should say that some other girl is rather ugly. Its best left unsaid.

One down side I found about raving about some good girl, is that it encourages negative posters and complete idiots or arseholes as well as good customers for the girl.

Why some ISGers want to write negatively about girls that they have never been with, and obviously don't know, is completely beyond me.

BionicMan

08-22-10, 16:58

It's not possible for anyone to improve without any honest and open feedback.
this is the key issue
A starfish getting (unaware) customers everyday will keep on thinking that doing as she does is ok.
At some point market has to rule and if someone is not up to the job...has to pay the toll, since we are paying the cash.
So, keeping of course a degree of politeness and honestly, we all need to know who is good (at least) and the bad ones will be naturally set aside...
One can always mention " not good service, or, space for improvement,metnioning his own thoughts and "to each one his own"

Dan7373

08-23-10, 16:38

....
One can always mention " not good service, or, space for improvement,metnioning his own thoughts and "to each one his own"
I think the best feedback is one that describes what actually happened between the lady and the guy, and how he felt about being with her.

Because this way the reader can make up his own mind whether it's the lady who is no good, or the guy, or perhaps both.

This kind of thing is often a matter of opinion. And it's best to let the readers decide for themselves what their opinion will be by telling them what happened rather than just saying that the lady is no good.

Sometimes encounters between massage ladies and guys go bad due to misunderstandings between them or even ignorance. And this kind of thing is correctable.

Sometimes massage ladies complain that the guy is 'too big' for them. But I think this is just ignorance on the lady's part and the guy's. Most often it's due to poor clitoral masturbation for the lady to prepare her for sex and due to poor lubrication and not due to the guy's size.

Because dry rubber does hurt the girl, especially when she didn't get good foreplay. And her guy usually isn't aware of it, unless she complains. But the lady's complaint can be misleading, when she misunderstands why it hurts and doesn't suggest any solution how to make it better. Sometimes it's up to the guy to figure out what's going wrong and fix it. And not every guy is informed and experienced enough to do this.

Fon Tok

08-23-10, 17:09

I think the best feedback is one that describes what actually happened between the lady and the guy...

...But the lady's complaint can be misleading, when she misunderstands why it hurts and doesn't suggest any solution how to make it better. Sometimes it's up to the guy to figure out what's going wrong and fix it. And not every guy is informed and experienced enough to do this.Recently, after I produced a flavored/scented condom purchased in the US, my favorite flower shop massage lady told me that often when she goes down on men they are min, that is, smell bad. This is even after their scrub in the shower. Not me, though. ;)

On my next trip to Thong Lor, I gave her a stack of flavored/scented condoms. She was very pleased. So guys, go to Costco and buy the fancy Durex variety box...the girls in TH will appreciate it!

Traveler1234

08-23-10, 18:47

Come on guys - we have this thread: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2493 and now it's politically incorrect to say XXX at Tulip didn't give good service?

Syzygies

08-24-10, 22:47

Recently, after I produced a flavored/scented condom purchased in the US, my favorite flower shop massage lady told me that often when she goes down on men they are min, that is, smell bad. This is even after their scrub in the shower. Not me, though. ;)

On my next trip to Thong Lor, I gave her a stack of flavored/scented condoms. She was very pleased. So guys, go to Costco and buy the fancy Durex variety box...the girls in TH will appreciate it!
Actually they are men with rising tone, and I am not just trying to be funny.
"min" is incorrect pronunciation.
e.g. from thai-language.com:
ตดเหม็น dtoht(L) men(R) smelly fart

LittleBigMan

08-25-10, 04:47

actually they are men with rising tone, and i am not just trying to be funny.
"min" is incorrect pronunciation.
e.g. from thai-language.com:
ตดเหม็น dtoht(l) men(r) smelly fart

i believe the reference to " men " or " dtoht men " " smelly fart " isn't really to the person as we know it? like, that smelly old fart!

years ago and it's been a long time...... i first heard in china that the girls didn't like to give bj's because most men had long and uncut pulvic hair. thinking that might make some sense like underarm hair it can retain odor. i like eating pussy but not a overly hairy one and maybe that is why i think again the majority of guys like a nice clean shave pussy?

i have heard this too in thailand, make sense right? i like eating a bush but not having the bush up my nose?

so fellas, in thailand in this hot as hell weather, stop wearing those tight speedos and get yourself some of those boxers to let your other half get some fresh air instead of packing him in those smelly tight shorts. get yourself trim too instead of walking around with a hairy smelly bush.

lbm

Desi Guy

08-31-10, 18:27

Recently, after I produced a flavored/scented condom purchased in the US, my favorite flower shop massage lady told me that often when she goes down on men they are min, that is, smell bad. This is even after their scrub in the shower. Not me, though. ;)

On my next trip to Thong Lor, I gave her a stack of flavored/scented condoms. She was very pleased. So guys, go to Costco and buy the fancy Durex variety box...the girls in TH will appreciate it!I find baby powder to be an essential thing to carry around in Thailand -- helps neutralize body odor and sweat and has been MUCH appreciated by women. I think us men underestimate how quickly we can stink in SE Asia with the humidity - very soon in fact after even showering. I usually carry baby powder, mints, and hand sanitizer around and it works very well.

Fon Tok

09-01-10, 09:29

I find baby powder to be an essential thing to carry around in Thailand -- helps neutralize body odor and sweat and has been MUCH appreciated by women. I think us men underestimate how quickly we can stink in SE Asia with the humidity - very soon in fact after even showering. I usually carry baby powder, mints, and hand sanitizer around and it works very well.The locally manufactured Snake Brand Prickly Heat Powder is probably the best to use in Bangkok if you can stand the initial sting! You can buy it at the 7-11 and most drug stores.

Mouth wash, and mild smelling or odorless deodorant, will also endear you with the local women here!

Nvslim

09-01-10, 14:33

I find baby powder to be an essential thing to carry around in Thailand -- helps neutralize body odor and sweat and has been MUCH appreciated by women.

Unless you are old and fat and sweat too much and the powder turns into pancake batter.

Slim

Fast Eddie 48

09-05-10, 07:45

The locally manufactured Snake Brand Prickly Heat Powder is probably the best to use in Bangkok if you can stand the initial sting! You can buy it at the 7-11 and most drug stores.

Mouth wash, and mild smelling or odorless deodorant, will also endear you with the local women here!Fon tok,

The main purpose for the prickly heat powder is for heat rash and cooling after bath, for body odor get a good expensive after shave like cool water or polo double black.

Fast Eddie 48

Fon Tok

09-06-10, 03:21

Fon tok, The main purpose for the prickly heat powder is for heat rash and cooling after bath, for body odor get a good expensive after shave like cool water or polo double black. Fast Eddie 48Eddie: Are you suggesting I put men's cologne on my dick?

Read back in the thread a bit. A Tulip lady told me that many men who she services are men, (i.e., smell bad), when she goes down on them. This came up in a conversation and later I furnished her with a supply of flavored condom (berry scent, I believe). Fortunately, I receive BBBJs from her. :)

Possibly, we ISGers should take a poll of Thai women and see what their favorite smoking flavor might be? Phraa ra...?

The Pro

09-06-10, 15:41

I have never had a CBJ in Thailand in over 20 years.

There is no point in it, what is the point of putting on a condom for a BJ?

Given how its the girls job to shower the customer beforehand, if any customer has a smelly dick its her fault for not washing them properly.

We are talking about Tulip here?

Eddie: Are you suggesting I put men's cologne on my dick?

Read back in the thread a bit. A Tulip lady told me that many men who she services are men, (i.e., smell bad), when she goes down on them. This came up in a conversation and later I furnished her with a supply of flavored condom (berry scent, I believe). Fortunately, I receive BBBJs from her. :)

Possibly, we ISGers should take a poll of Thai women and see what their favorite smoking flavor might be? Phraa ra...?

Desi Guy

09-06-10, 21:34

A much longer conversation thread about body odor than I expected and not exactly sure why it's on the Tulip forum specifically, but I will chime in to say that Axe works quite in Thailand and the ladies are very receptive. I never get that reaction in the USA but several times of late after dousing myself with Axe before going out, I've been complimented for how nice I smell even after sensing some decent sweat from traversing the Bangkok heat. So apparently the scent is quite persistent. This is especially nice to hear since I'm Indian and we don't exactly have the best reputation for body odor amongst the Thai ladies. I'm assuming you can buy Axe locally; I always bring a full container when traveling to the Land of Smiles.

Fon Tok

09-10-10, 03:45

Stopped in at Tulip yesterday after making a phone booking for 3pm with Miss P.

I was greeted with a nice smile by the cashier and the beautiful Miss P took me upstairs to the room. As we walked down the hallway to the room, I could not help but think that they really need to spread a little fresh paint around the place as it reminds me of visiting a jail!

Once in the room, after the friendly Khun M. delivered a couple of sodas, Miss P went to work. A nice shower included a bbbj for me, and a quick poke in the rear for her. One on the bed, after a brief massage (my request), the fun began with lots of hot sweaty sex with penetration in all sorts of convenient places. Miss P's bj skill are some of the best in Bangkok. As I always enjoy my time with her, the 90 minute session passed too quickly. I left very happy and relaxed. (cost: 600 baht for the shop, 1500 for the service)

Miss P did mention that business has been a little slow and there were "many lady" waiting downstairs. If you've been meaning to stop by there to try a particular lady, now might be the time.

Canyon

09-10-10, 06:51

Fon Tok,

What is Miss P's full name?

Canyon

Pita123

09-11-10, 05:47

Eddie: Are you suggesting I put men's cologne on my dick?

Read back in the thread a bit. A Tulip lady told me that many men who she services are men, (i.e., smell bad), when she goes down on them. This came up in a conversation and later I furnished her with a supply of flavored condom (berry scent, I believe). Fortunately, I receive BBBJs from her. :)

Possibly, we ISGers should take a poll of Thai women and see what their favorite smoking flavor might be? Phraa ra...?

As this girl from Shark I've been with a few times was leaving the other night she reached down to my member and rubbed her hand around it and then lifted her hand to sniff. Said she's be walking down the street and smelling her hand to remember me. She then SMSed the next two days asking if she could see me. I guess my smell must be ok. ;)

Ok, the smell of my baht is ok. ;)

Dan7373

09-17-10, 17:54

.... Miss P went to work. A nice shower included a bbbj for me, and a quick poke in the rear for her. One on the bed, after a brief massage (my request), the fun began with lots of hot sweaty sex with penetration in all sorts of convenient places. Miss P's bj skill are some of the best in Bangkok. As I always enjoy my time with her, the 90 minute session passed too quickly. I left very happy and relaxed. (cost: 600 baht for the shop, 1500 for the service)

Miss P did mention that business has been a little slow and there were "many lady" waiting downstairs. If you've been meaning to stop by there to try a particular lady, now might be the time.
It sounds like you've had a real porn-star experience with Miss P. Because the guy penetrating the sexy lady many times in many positions is what usually happens in porn movies.

When a lady lets you penetrate her many times like this, then this kind of makes you feel sexually secure with her. Because she always welcomes you with open legs, whenever you feel like riding her. And you don't need to fear withdrawing from her to change positions, or to take a brief rest before plunging back inside for another good ride.

I find from my own experience that a lot of ladies don't understand why a guy might want to play penetration games with them. Most ladies expect their guy to keep riding them until he pops. And they often think that something is wrong, when the guy suddenly withdraws from the lady in the middle of his ride to change positions or to get a good suck from her.

And this kind of thing spoils the mood and makes you feel insecure about temporarily withdrawing from the lady. Because once you are out, then you might end up being out permanently. There is no guarantee that the lady will welcome you back inside whenever you feel like it.

Miss P sounds like a really good lady to see. Because she seems to have mastered the art of making her guy feel so sexually secure with her that he feels free to withdraw from her and plunge back inside whenever he feels like it.

Actually even in Thailand, I've never felt secure enough with any lady to play porn-like penetration games like this with her. Which makes Tulip Massage the place to go to for this kind of thing. This is one place where the ladies seem to understand men's porn-fantasies and are willing to fulfill them.

I've heard a lot of people say that porn movies are fantasies that don't happen in real life. Well, Tulip Massage seems to be an exception to that. Because this is one place where you can play penetration games with the ladies just like in a porn movie.

Sour Pickle

09-24-10, 04:41

Simian

09-25-10, 09:39

BKK Day 3 (Sep 22nd)

Tulip Massage - Cherry

Reached Tulip by BTS sky train around 3 PM. We go down stairs but didn't like any of them. There are not many to choose from also though. My buddy she liked a like and persuaded me to take a cute looking one which is Cherry.

We pay 400 to the shop. Ordered some drinks. My initial thought was..She is just not intrested and the next hour is going to be terrible. Finally its not as bad as thought. Again this time also no BBBJ in the shower (second time, not sure if we have to ask).

We talked for sometime & BBBJ followed in the bed. Tried several positions and we're done before an hour. Took some fotos & we head out.

I did not find Tulip up to mark as Annies but may be as I mentioned earlier there was no connection with the girl. Later my buddy said, he had a blast of a time with the girl he took.

It seems to me that you only paid for one hour (400baht). If so, you miss out on the USP (unique selling point) of Tuilip, which is that you get multiple pops at will! OK, they have another USP which is that all the girls do anal. But multiple pops only apply if you pay for more than one hour. Even 90 minutes will get you two. And all for the same extras price/tip of 1,500baht.

Chill Out

09-25-10, 21:33

And this kind of thing spoils the mood and makes you feel insecure about temporarily withdrawing from the lady. Because once you are out, then you might end up being out permanently. There is no guarantee that the lady will welcome you back inside whenever you feel like it.They are hookers bro. They take you back inside whichever way you like, as many times as you want, all of them. Manhandle them a bit more. If you have to worry about coming out to change positions, you are doing this wrong.

Boater Boy

10-05-10, 12:48

Every time I come to BKK I make a point of getting at least one session at Tulip. I agree that the decor is a tad past it, however the service is very consistent. I just got back from a session there and this time I chose DOW. I have to say that she was great fun and brought the whole session down to a friendly rompabout. Service was great with BBBJ in the shower followed by the "oily", any position and yes I took her every way I knew how. Reccommended because she was so much fun as well as providing one of the best sessions I have ever had there.

Boater Boy

Barko

10-05-10, 16:34

I've heard a lot of people say that porn movies are fantasies that don't happen in real life.And, now you know, those people are completely, totally, & absolutely WRONG.

Stock up on two or more 3packs of condoms, a container of "Play" gel, something to drink, and a few X rated movies to get some ideas. Then just call to have a couple of Tulip girls (or tens of thousands of other sexy massage babies available in Bangkok) come to your room.

You too can become a porn star, even if it's just in your own bed. It's real, it's not fantasy, and it's easy. TIT.

Animall

10-14-10, 15:40

So, I've been in BKK for a few days and decided to visit Tulip. I took the BTS Sky-train to Thong Lo station and exited using exit 4. I walked into Tulip and the place was rather quiet and empty. The mamasan jumped up and walked over to the counter then asked what would I like. I chose the 90min oil massage, and the mamasan called up Cat from downstairs. Now usually I don't go for the next in line routine and like to choose the girl myself, but when Cat walked up she was wearing a tight black body suit and strappy heels. Her face was ok not the prettiest but certainly not ugly, but her legs and arse are awesome. So, I didn't see what other girls looked like that were on hand. Oh well, next time.

Off we go to the room, then she goes to get her massage utensils and leaves me in the room alone for short while. I don't know about you guys, but personally I kind of hate that. I mean, they know when they come up that they are going to need their stuff, so why don't they have it ready on hand as soon as they're chosen. I mean its really common, and most of the MP's do the same thing, but to me it's just an unnecessary waste of time.

Anyway, we strip down to to take a shower and I love to watch a woman get undressed. Her body waist up was ok, had some, but not bad, stretch marks on her stomach area from making a baby. And her boobs weren't the perkiest, but weren't overlly saggy either. From the waist down was solid, nice trimmed pubic hair, great arse, great legs, and cute feet.

We take a shower and I'm rock hard during the shower, so she soaps me and my member up and rubs me down. After the shower I lay down to get the mock massage. She starts into it, but didn't really do much and went to licking me all over and stuff which was cool 'cause I was ready for some action anyway.

I put her doggy style and start fingering her arsehole getting it ready for the main event. From there you gents know what happened, I did the back, cleaned up then did the front, cleaned up again and got out the door.

Overall, Tulip's service is on par with anyone in the biz. Like I mentioned earlier I didn't see what the other girls looked like that were also on hand that day so I can't give any recommendations about that, but Cat is a good girl and solid performer that I would recommend.

Dan7373

10-14-10, 20:10

They are hookers bro. They take you back inside whichever way you like, as many times as you want, all of them. Manhandle them a bit more. If you have to worry about coming out to change positions, you are doing this wrong.
I understand what you are saying. But the thing is, I need to please the lady I'm with, so that I can feel pleasure myself. It's a turn-off for me to see my lady get confused and start losing her mood for sex with me. And for this reason, I cannot do my massage lady like a real porn-stud, unless she does with me like a real porn-star. i.e. She keeps her legs apart in any position she is in and makes it easy for me to penetrate her whenever I feel like it.

When I withdraw from my lady, and she crosses her legs, and her pussy disappears from view. Then it's a turn-off for me to spread her legs apart for another ride. Because I'm no longer sure whether her mind is still with me. Or whether she has lost her interest, and I'm alone in my enjoyment with her. Being alone like this in my mind during my coupling with the lady is no fun for me.

But I realize that things like this might happen due to poor communication and misunderstanding. The lady might not understand what I want. And that might be why she isn't prepared to do it the way I like. Perhaps I can get around this problem by bringing with me some pictures of sex-positions from the internet on my cell-phone. And show them to my massage lady with a request to do them all with her. And this way she will know that I'm not yet finished, when I withdraw from her.

Dan7373

10-14-10, 21:16

....
Off we go to the room, then she goes to get her massage utensils and leaves me in the room alone for short while. I don't know about you guys, but personally I kind of hate that. I mean, they know when they come up that they are going to need their stuff, so why don't they have it ready on hand as soon as they're chosen. I mean its really common, and most of the MP's do the same thing, but to me it's just an unnecessary waste of time....

I put her doggy style and start fingering her arsehole getting it ready for the main event. From there you gents know what happened, I did the back, cleaned up then did the front, cleaned up again and got out the door.

Overall, Tulip's service is on par with anyone in the biz. Like I mentioned earlier I didn't see what the other girls looked like that were also on hand that day so I can't give any recommendations about that, but Cat is a good girl and solid performer that I would recommend.
Perhaps you misunderstand the reason why massage ladies go away for a short while to get their utensils. These ladies might be preparing themselves for you by getting a quick enema to make sure they are clean for you. And they might be putting some lube up their pussies and asses to make sure everything goes well between them and you, without any discomfort or serious injury.

But I'm a bit surprised that you went straight-to-anal on lady Cat and then did her pussy afterwards. In porn movies, they usually do it the other way around. Because going from ass to pussy is liable to give the lady a Urinary Tract Infection and put her out of sex-commission for a while.

I suppose this is the big advantage of using condoms. You can do the lady's ass first, change condoms, and then do her pussy too, without risking her health unnecessarily.

And it's nice to know that lady Cat lets her guys go straight-to-anal on her. Many ladies do anal only in a token kind of way, after the guy had a long pussy ride with them and is nearly exhausted. Only some ladies like lady Cat let their guy enjoy their ass as the main event.

BionicMan

10-14-10, 21:57

....
Off we go to the room, then she goes to get her massage utensils and leaves me in the room alone for short while. I don't know about you guys, but personally I kind of hate that. I mean, they know when they come up that they are going to need their stuff, so why don't they have it ready on hand as soon as they're chosen. I mean its really common, and most of the MP's do the same thing, but to me it's just an unnecessary waste of time
.....

Perfectly agreeing
it is not only a waste of time but also a silly time.
What to do in that time? strip down and look like a hungry and horny beast who can't wait? well...might be true sometime :)
My first soapie experience (not Tulip) the girl got in and out 2-3 times. Never got the sense of that.
Maybe the sense is to buy time as you do not know then exactly when the clock starts: when you enter, when she enters the first time? when the bathtub is full? or ?
In Macau sauna (where the agenda is pretty much similar), you are taken in the room by the manager adn the chose girl arrives some 5 minutes later, with her tool box and the only 'wasted' time is the water temperature adjustment.
I agree, no-one will take action for 60 or 90 full and straight minutes from zero to the end. We'll have our recovery time, the wish also to relax etc.
So the girls will not be worn out by 60 or 90 of non stop action.
Still they buy their own time as many experimented.
Seems a bit of cheating to me....
Even if then I end the session after 90 minutes instead of the allowed 120 minutes.
But that is my choice.

BionicMan

10-14-10, 22:00

..... Perhaps I can get around this problem by bringing with me some pictures of sex-positions from the internet on my cell-phone. And show them to my massage lady with a request to do them all with her. And this way she will know that I'm not yet finished, when I withdraw from her.Jokingly: I would be much more "down" at the idea of having to give a lecture to the girl about the 90 or so minutes of the session.
maybe because I ain't no professor or professional presenter or I don't have an MBA :)

Dan7373

10-15-10, 16:23

Jokingly: I would be much more "down" at the idea of having to give a lecture to the girl about the 90 or so minutes of the session.
maybe because I ain't no professor or professional presenter or I don't have an MBA :)
It's a lot easier to communicate with pictures than with words, when there is a language barrier. As is often the case with tourists in Thailand.

And there is no good reason why you shouldn't ask the massage lady for the kind of experience you want. In most cases, the lady would be happy to do it the way you like. And she does want to know what it is that you want with her.

BionicMan

10-15-10, 18:01

It's a lot easier to communicate with pictures than with words, when there is a language barrier. As is often the case with tourists in Thailand.

And there is no good reason why you shouldn't ask the massage lady for the kind of experience you want. In most cases, the lady would be happy to do it the way you like. And she does want to know what it is that you want with her.
I agree to a certain extent, of course
My intervention was a bit humorous
Still would sound a bit like a ordering on a mail order catalogue.
This is why I prefer a soapie where you can eventually interact before hand with th emama-san or even by email
At least when you are there, it is more a natural routine and not a menu list.
IMHO

Dan7373

10-16-10, 18:01

I agree to a certain extent, of course
My intervention was a bit humorous
Still would sound a bit like a ordering on a mail order catalogue.
This is why I prefer a soapie where you can eventually interact before hand with th emama-san or even by email
At least when you are there, it is more a natural routine and not a menu list.
IMHO
I suppose, it depends on how much of a porn-star experience you want to have with your massage lady. Because porn-stars and their studs often plan their sex-positions and their sex-actions ahead of time. Which is what makes their coupling so well-coordinated and so hot.

Spontaneous sex without any special request for the massage lady can work well too for getting plain and simple satisfaction with her. But such simplicity and plainness works well only for those who have gone without a lady for a long time, and who need to satisfy their sex-hunger quickly and efficiently in a spartan kind of way.

I have nothing against simplicity and plainness. But when you can have more pleasure and more enjoyment with your massage lady than this, then why not ask her for more? And if she doesn't understand your verbal request, then why not show her a picture on your mobile phone to make her understand?

I can be physically satisfied with a missionary ride every time, or even with lonely masturbation in my room. But sex is more than just physical satisfaction. It includes satisfying your mind too. And if you have a dirty mind like I do, from watching porn movies a lot. Then you might want to play some penetrations games with your massage lady and try out with her some of the more complicated sex-positions that you often get to see in today's porn movies. Which might be a little hard to explain to your massage lady with words, but easy to show her with a picture on your cell phone.

Animall

10-17-10, 14:31

...But I'm a bit surprised that you went straight-to-anal on lady Cat and then did her pussy afterwards. In porn movies, they usually do it the other way around. Because going from ass to pussy is liable to give the lady a Urinary Tract Infection and put her out of sex-commission for a while.

I suppose this is the big advantage of using condoms. You can do the lady's ass first, change condoms, and then do her pussy too, without risking her health unnecessarily.

And it's nice to know that lady Cat lets her guys go straight-to-anal on her. Many ladies do anal only in a token kind of way, after the guy had a long pussy ride with them and is nearly exhausted. Only some ladies like lady Cat let their guy enjoy their ass as the main event.Well it depends on the type of porn you're watching. Anal themed porns often go straight to the A and sometimes only the arse.

But your right, that's the beauty of using condoms, you can go right in the arse, then when you're done just take off the condom, clean up, put on a new one and go to the pussy.

Also, I think that is one of the upsides to Tulip. No the girls aren't these young super hot super tight fuck angles. But they are decent looking women, with good bodies that can take a bit more than the average and allow you to do things like go straight in the arse.

But in general, the girl is there working to please you, so you can do whatever you want to her, within reason, as long as you're respectful, gentle and not trying to hurt the girl or any bad things like that. In my experiences as long as you keep that code, they will let you do anything to them in any order.

Sometimes I take the arse, and only the arse.

The Pro

10-21-10, 06:05

A few of the Tulip girls prefer anal.

They get pussy fucked so much its boring and anal gives them something more exciting.

When you speak Thai you learn these little gems.

Kuratla

10-22-10, 03:13

A few of the Tulip girls prefer anal.

They get pussy fucked so much its boring and anal gives them something more exciting.

When you speak Thai you learn these little gems.

You don't actually believe that, do you?

They work for money, not because they like fucked (in the pussy, ass or anywhere else).

That's the gem that I've learned over the years: it's just a job for them.

Bluerose

10-22-10, 03:49

You don't actually believe that, do you?

They work for money, not because they like fucked (in the pussy, ass or anywhere else).

That's the gem that I've learned over the years: it's just a job for them.

It's a job for them for sure, but some of them might well learn to enjoy it; it's good for them and good for business. It's actually like any other job. It's hard to hate your job and do well.

Specifically about enjoying anal sex, I have heard from girls of various nationalities who like anal sex said that anal sex would be less physically exhausting than vaginal intercourse once they got used to anal sex.

Others simply like prefer anal sex to vaginal intercourse, because they just like it more in the arse.

The Pro

10-22-10, 03:58

You don't actually believe that, do you?

They work for money, not because they like fucked (in the pussy, ass or anywhere else).

That's the gem that I've learned over the years: it's just a job for them.Did I say they do not work for money ? Did I say its not a job ?

All I said was that given how much pounding their pussy's take, they are often bored shitless of vaginal sex and some of them prefer anal over vaginal now.

Sometimes they do enjoy it as well, although generally given the state of some of the customers its impossible to enjoy it, but sometimes with the right person they do actaully enjoy it, in the best possible way someone who does it for a living can.

Dan7373

10-22-10, 17:39

You don't actually believe that, do you?

They work for money, not because they like fucked (in the pussy, ass or anywhere else).

That's the gem that I've learned over the years: it's just a job for them.
A lot of people like their work, especially when they have a lot of freedom to do it the way they like. And sex-work is no different in this.

Sex is naturally enjoyable, when you do it the right way. And this goes for anal sex too. The lady usually enjoys it more, when you masturbate her clit during the anal sex on her. Or she masturbates herself. And the lady can have an orgasm this way, which certainly is enjoyable for her.

There are certain costs to pay for doing sex-work. Such as enduring the risk of STDs and not having a steady relationship with a guy, which most ladies want to have. And that's why not every lady wants to do it. And that's why those who do it get monetary compensations for it.

But in terms of physical enjoyment of sex, those who do it for money and those who do it for free both can enjoy. Because they both have the same physical anatomy and physiology for physical enjoyment of sex.

And psychologically too. It usually feels pleasant to please another person well. Which is what these ladies do in their line of work.

Dan7373

10-22-10, 18:09

....
But in general, the girl is there working to please you, so you can do whatever you want to her, within reason, as long as you're respectful, gentle and not trying to hurt the girl or any bad things like that. In my experiences as long as you keep that code, they will let you do anything to them in any order.

Sometimes I take the arse, and only the arse.
Yes, within reason the lady will do with you the way you like.

If the lady is open to having anal sex with guys anyway. Then she'll probably let you have some variety of that, including straight to anal on her if that's what you want.

But if the massage lady doesn't normally have anal sex with guys. Then you would be lucky to persuade her to have any anal sex with you at all, let alone go straight to anal on her.

I suppose, this is the advantage of going to Tulip Massage and not to some other place. The ladies at Tulip Massage are willing to do more with their guys.

Suntangh R

11-05-10, 16:25

Raptors

11-06-10, 03:50

Hi Tulip Lovers,

Any news of Nice? I know she has left Tulip. She might have gone back to her village to start a business of sorts. She was not a smasher by a long throw, but was an excellent companion, even a friend you chat to without dying of boredom.

News/contacts would be thoroughly appreciated.To my knowledge and info she has gone back to Province and has gotten married. Also broke completely with her old business.

Kuratla

11-06-10, 04:45

Hi Tulip Lovers,

Any news of Nice? I know she has left Tulip. She might have gone back to her village to start a business of sorts. She was not a smasher by a long throw, but was an excellent companion, even a friend you chat to without dying of boredom.

News/contacts would be thoroughly appreciated.She is married and expecting a baby. She is out of PVP so we should leave her be to enjoy her new life with her husband and family.

Suntangh R

11-06-10, 08:17

She is married and expecting a baby. She is out of PVP so we should leave her be to enjoy her new life with her husband and family.Am sincerely happy for her!

Raptors

11-06-10, 16:22

She is married and expecting a baby. She is out of PVP so we should leave her be to enjoy her new life with her husband and family.Very well said - nothing to add about this... it is good to see when certain former PVP girls can break completely with the business and live a normal life. Great.

Hudson69

11-07-10, 15:52

She is married and expecting a baby. She is out of PVP so we should leave her be to enjoy her new life with her husband and family.May I ask you where you get that information from?

Nice contacted me a few hours ago, very upset. She told me someone keeps on spreading untrue rumors about her.

Nice says:

1. She is NOT married, not to a farang, not to a Thai.

2. She is NOT pregnant. She has two children already, and she says that is enough. She has no plans to get married or have anymore children.

3. She is not working anymore at Tulip nor at any other such place.

4. She has started as a new student at University "Very hard between all these young girls, I'm an old lady now".

Please respect her by not repeating unverifiable rumors.

Although I regret for my self that she retired, I am very happy for her. I consider her a good friend, for many years now, and wish her all the best for her future. I think she's a very special young woman, and will do well for herself.

Kuratla

11-08-10, 04:36

May I ask you where you get that information from?

Nice contacted me a few hours ago, very upset. She told me someone keeps on spreading untrue rumors about her.

Nice says:

1. She is NOT married, not to a farang, not to a Thai.

2. She is NOT pregnant. She has two children already, and she says that is enough. She has no plans to get married or have anymore children.

3. She is not working anymore at Tulip nor at any other such place.

4. She has started as a new student at University "Very hard between all these young girls, I'm an old lady now".

Please respect her by not repeating unverifiable rumors.

Although I regret for my self that she retired, I am very happy for her. I consider her a good friend, for many years now, and wish her all the best for her future. I think she's a very special young woman, and will do well for herself.

Well, somebody is lying. Either Nice herself or the people who told me (and Raptors below plus other people on other forums) that Nice is married and with child or you.

That was your first post. You created an account here specifically to stop the spread of rumors about Nice?

I am not a rumormonger. I was just answered a question with knowledge that I believe to be true. As she is out of the business, I sincerely hope that she stays out and enjoys her new life as well as hoping that customers from the past leave her alone.

Hudson69

11-08-10, 17:15

Well, somebody is lying. Either Nice herself or the people who told me (and Raptors below plus other people on other forums) that Nice is married and with child or you.

That was your first post. You created an account here specifically to stop the spread of rumors about Nice?

I am not a rumormonger. I was just answered a question with knowledge that I believe to be true. As she is out of the business, I sincerely hope that she stays out and enjoys her new life as well as hoping that customers from the past leave her alone.Please note I do not anywhere accuse YOU of lying. I asked where you got this information from, and asked people in general to stop spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

Raptors below plus other people on other forums< Can we hear from raptors where he got his info from? What other forums, who is the authority to be believed?

I do not believe everything I read on these boards, there are people with a reason to spread rumours, there are also people who just like to gossip.

I am asking whoever came up with this story to come forward and substantiate it.

I am member of a number of other Boards, the three Pattaya boards (Addicts, Talk and Secrets, as well as Thai360. I never joined this one before because there is only so much you can read.

Yes I joined this yesterday because Nice contacted me, upset, and asked if I could please tell those who spread rumours about her that is was not true. I googled her and Tulip, and came up with this board as the most recent discussion about her. In fact, Nice contacted me a few months ago, asking me not to believe stories people were telling about her.

I suspect it may have started with mere speculation, or maybe a spiteful story from a pissed off former colleague or whatever. Jilted lover?

I seem to get from your posts as well as those of Raptors that you are actually fond of her and wish her well. Like me.

So please either verify your source of information, or stop once and for all telling things about her that you cannot prove to be true.

The woman has been an angel to many of us, she decided she needed a change of life, and is trying to achieve that, Give her a chance. That is what SHE is asking.

Giotto

11-08-10, 20:58

...
Nice contacted me a few hours ago, very upset. She told me someone keeps on spreading untrue rumors about her.
...
4. She has started as a new student at University "Very hard between all these young girls, I'm an old lady now".
...
Strange.

Why should an "old lady" studying on a University read the ISG and then be upset about rumors of being married or pregnant? Key statement was, that she has left the business - so there is nothing to be upset about.

...
Yes I joined this yesterday because Nice contacted me, upset, and asked if I could please tell those who spread rumors about her that is was not true. I googled her and Tulip, and came up with this board as the most recent discussion about her. In fact, Nice contacted me a few months ago, asking me not to believe stories people were telling about her.
...
Strange too.

In all this years here in Thailand and my (of course limited) mongering experience I never met a girl asking me to tell people [I don't even know] that certain rumors about her were not true! But for sure I then had googled the issue to find out ... Nice is for sure a very special woman. No question.

Of course many girls asked me not to believe stories people were telling about them - for obvious reasons. And - I ALWAYS did what the girls asked me to do --- of course :) !

Finally - we all wish Nice well! Nothing more to add.

Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th

PS: Tell her that I call her tomorrow!

Run Mann

11-08-10, 21:01

Please note I do not anywhere accuse YOU of lying. I asked where you got this information from, and asked people in general to stop spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

Raptors below plus other people on other forums< Can we hear from raptors where he got his info from? What other forums, who is the authority to be believed?

I do not believe everything I read on these boards, there are people with a reason to spread rumours, there are also people who just like to gossip.

I am asking whoever came up with this story to come forward and substantiate it.

I am member of a number of other Boards, the three Pattaya boards (Addicts, Talk and Secrets, as well as Thai360. I never joined this one before because there is only so much you can read.

Yes I joined this yesterday because Nice contacted me, upset, and asked if I could please tell those who spread rumours about her that is was not true. I googled her and Tulip, and came up with this board as the most recent discussion about her. In fact, Nice contacted me a few months ago, asking me not to believe stories people were telling about her.

I suspect it may have started with mere speculation, or maybe a spiteful story from a pissed off former colleague or whatever. Jilted lover?

I seem to get from your posts as well as those of Raptors that you are actually fond of her and wish her well. Like me.

So please either verify your source of information, or stop once and for all telling things about her that you cannot prove to be true.

The woman has been an angel to many of us, she decided she needed a change of life, and is trying to achieve that, Give her a chance. That is what SHE is asking.

Isn't the point "she is no longer in the biz" the premium here? You both are agreeing that she is no longer working and available. You do seem to be investing some emotion in this but if you want it to die, let it go, you'll only keep the story alive by addressing it.

Suntangh R

11-09-10, 02:25

Isn't the point "she is no longer in the biz" the premium here? You both are agreeing that she is no longer working and available. You do seem to be investing some emotion in this but if you want it to die, let it go, you'll only keep the story alive by addressing it.I agree! Good lady who gave us enjoyment and happiness. Lets leave it at that and Bury the topic!

The Pro

11-09-10, 22:58

NicFrenchy

11-12-10, 03:20

Look, this is not a soap opera, and I for one do not care what they do in their spare time.

I am interested in what they do in their working time, in bed,

If they leave then who gives a flying fig what they are doing.

Stop being so sad and discussing an ex-working girl and can we please get back to the ones who are still working !

The Pro,

What in the fuck is happening??? I think for the first time in ISG History, I tend to agree with what you wrote.
Who cares who she was (for those not knowing her) and what she is doing now...

Mouse1

11-22-10, 07:56

Who cares who she was and what she is doing now...Well, perhaps for some of us it is hard to separate genuine affection and occasional emotional connection from simple fucking. But each to his own, and I guess the answer is just to skip these posts.

Syzygies

12-01-10, 06:10

Raptors below plus other people on other forums< Can we hear from raptors where he got his info from? What other forums, who is the authority to be believed?

Raptors has a long history of providing reliable information and does have inside information.

Raptors cannot divulge his sources. They must remain secret, but a small few of us know what they are.
He therefore has a greater believability factor the most on the forum.

But clearly the exact truth cannot be known about Nice by anyone other than herself. The rest of the hearsay will be distorted. Sometimes girls have secrets they don't want to be known in general. I have no idea if this applies to Nice or not.

Syzygies

12-01-10, 06:15

PS: Tell her that I call her tomorrow!
:confused: Are you vaguely admitting to anything? :D

Fon Tok

12-01-10, 07:24

Basically the women that work at Tulip think that 99.99% of their customers are just two things:

1) fcuking ATMs;
2) pains in the ass -- literally and figuratively.

I am sure that they find it very amusing they anyone would even speculate about anything that has to do with them outside of their limited work description. :D

Nongpagba

12-01-10, 12:47

Pim is a quite attractive lady, 26 years old from Korat. The picture now removed from the website doesn't do her justice. She provides excellent service, made me come three times, the last one CIM. She says Farang do not coose her because of her light skin, and would be preferred by Japanese and Koreans.

Definitely would visit her again.

Syzygies

12-05-10, 08:39

Daddy07

12-05-10, 10:27

And yet some girls ended up marrying a customer...
That's covered by #1 -- fucking ATM ... :D

Fon Tok

12-05-10, 12:20

And yet some girls ended up marrying a customer.
I think there is some over simplification going on here ;)I wrote 99.99%...the other 0.01% might possibly become spouses (aka full time ATMs).

And, I know this on a first hand basis...

Syzygies

12-06-10, 04:45

That's covered by #1 -- fucking ATM ... :D
At least someone can spell "Fucking" correctly. :)

Syzygies

12-06-10, 04:52

I wrote 99.99%...the other 0.01% might possibly become spouses (aka full time ATMs).

And, I know this on a first hand basis...
What percentage of Tulip girls end up marrying a Customer?
Could be more like 10-20%.
Do guys marry the girl in order to get exclusive fucking rights or what? It certainly isn't going to get cheaper per screw, and doesn't even lead to guaranteed availability of the girl.

Some of us finally learn that there are girls who will fuck repeatedly for free, because they enjoyed it. Only then do we know that they really want it.

So no point in settling down with a girl unless she can't do without regular sex.

Fon Tok

12-06-10, 05:26

What percentage of Tulip girls end up marrying a Customer?
Could be more like 10-20%.Depending on a lot of variables, Tulip ladies average 1 to 5 customers a day per week (6 work days) x 50. That's 300 sessions minimum to over 1500 per year.

I'll stick with my 99.99% estimate...

Syzygies: I am starting to think you are either a cuckold Tulip spouse, or a wannabe one?

Pita123

12-06-10, 13:03

What percentage of Tulip girls end up marrying a Customer?
Could be more like 10-20%.

What we have here is a failure to communicate. Fon Tok is saying that 0.01% of the customers become husbands of Tulip girls. You are saying that 10-20% of the Tulip girls marry customers. You are both looking at opposite ends of the Tulip experience.

Fon Tok

12-06-10, 13:08

What we have here is a failure to communicate. Fon Tok is saying that 0.01% of the customers become husbands of Tulip girls. You are saying that 10-20% of the Tulip girls marry customers. You are both looking at opposite ends of the Tulip experience.Thanks Pita...

You look good in your striped referee shirt...!

But, the estimate of 1 or 2 of every 10 men that walk into Tulip marrying service providers. I think not! And, btw, I do know how to spell f u c k.

Syzygies

12-06-10, 14:13

Depending on a lot of variables, Tulip ladies average 1 to 5 customers a day per week (6 work days) x 50. That's 300 sessions minimum to over 1500 per year.

I'll stick with my 99.99% estimate...

Syzygies: I am starting to think you are either a cuckold Tulip spouse, or a wannabe one?
I thought my questions would suggest that marrying one of these girls is not such a great idea. One would want an extended try out period to ensure it was a good deal.

I will admit to having had an ex-WG GF (not Tulip). But don't think its a good idea any more unless she likes a lot of sex, is fabulous at it, but is very "jai yen". This could well be a contradictory set of requirements.

I also think there are too many of us on the forum to have got involved with a working girl at some point. An awfully big 00.01 % club I reckon.
I accept that restricting to just Tulip would keep the percentage down as there is a limit to how many BFs each girl could manage (I think) ;)

BTW, When you do the math, don't forget that some customers and some ISGers visit so often its nearly their 2nd home at times. :D

Syzygies

12-06-10, 14:21

Thanks Pita...

You look good in your striped referee shirt...!

But, the estimate of 1 or 2 of every 10 men that walk into Tulip marrying service providers. I think not! And, btw, I do know how to spell f u c k.
My thanks to Pita as well.
I don't think we need a "referee" for friendly banter, but he is clarifying well.
So he explained that your your "But" clause was not my claim at all.

Do you fail to link the letters of "fuck" to avoid a search on "fuck" finding it, or your Hotel internet service doesn't allow it or might be snooping, or what is going on here? I'm just a little curious.

Fon Tok

12-07-10, 03:01

My thanks to Pita as well.
I don't think we need a "referee" for friendly banter, but he is clarifying well.
So he explained that your your "But" clause was not my claim at all.

Do you fail to link the letters of "fuck" to avoid a search on "fuck" finding it, or your Hotel internet service doesn't allow it or might be snooping, or what is going on here? I'm just a little curious.Pita is a scholar and a gentleman...or at least, at the minumum, a good looking rascal!

I think I need new reading glasses. I do understand now that a number of Tulip women hook-up with customers for better or for worse. From what I have heard anecdotally your estimate is probably not too far off.

What I do know is that the conversation with a Tulip woman about her "sister's" future husband to be inevitably includes a discussion of money, whether it be the sin sod, a new car, or taking care of "mama and papa" back in Nakhon Phanom.

I say, fuck it all, and good luck to anyone who marries a high mileage Tulip gal. Her three holes have seen it all many, many times!

NicFrenchy

12-07-10, 03:36

I say, fuck it all, and good luck to anyone who marries a high mileage Tulip gal. Her three holes have seen it all many, many times!

Cannot agree more...

Syzygies

12-07-10, 05:42

<cut>....whether it be the sin sod, a new car, or taking care of "mama and papa" back in Nakhon Phanom.<cut>

Yes, the price might be too high. Who can replace a very popular MP girl's monthly takings.

BTW, I had impression (could be wrong) that "sin sort" was paid for engagement to a girl with no previous husband or baby. So probably not valid for many WGs.

However someone has to replace the girl in supporting the family, I guess.

I am currently looking at self supporting girls, who actually want good sex for its own sake. Money drain to be minimised. Sure, I will still pay for a quick 90 min visit to Tulip or Mango etc., to experience something different.

Mao

12-09-10, 04:01

I dropped by the other day and checked out Golf. I can see why one would say she has a latino ass, she is very nicely shaped and has a great attitude. Did a 90 minute session with her and went thru all the standard stuff with some of the best rimming ever! Since I'm an old man she had to worked to get that second pop and man-o-man did she work. Will certainly see here again.

Dan7373

12-09-10, 16:32

. What I do know is that the conversation with a Tulip woman about her "sister's" future husband to be inevitably includes a discussion of money, whether it be the sin sod, a new car, or taking care of "mama and papa" back in Nakhon Phanom.

I say, fuck it all, and good luck to anyone who marries a high mileage Tulip gal. Her three holes have seen it all many, many times! One of the reasons why many Thai ladies go into the sex business is to find a rich farang husband for themselves. And if there are farangs willing to fulfill their wish, then so much the better. Because these ladies' success motivates other Thai ladies to do the same. And guys like you who don't wish to marry get to have as many new ladies as they like.

One big advantage of marrying an experienced massage lady is that she understands better than most what makes a man happy. And as long as you are willing to fulfill your husbandly duties in terms of being a breadwinner for her and her parents, then both you and she will be happy.

The main thing to remember is that when you try to get something for nothing, then it usually doesn't work out well for you. There is no clear exchange between men and women in western style marriages and relationships. And that's why such marriages and relationships end up so often in confusion and divorce. Without a clear-cut exchange, people have no way of knowing whether they are being treated fairly or not. And when people don't know, then their imagination takes over. And there is no limit to how unreasonable they can get with each other.

Fon Tok

12-09-10, 17:33

One of the reasons why many Thai ladies go into the sex business is to find a rich farang husband for themselves. And if there are farangs willing to fulfill their wish, then so much the better. Because these ladies' success motivates other Thai ladies to do the same. And guys like you who don't wish to marry get to have as many new ladies as they like.Yes and no. Financial independence and the ability to support one's family are equally as motivating for these women as finding a foreign husband. A marriage to a farang is seen as an enhancement to what is personally accomplished, and for a few, the icing on the cake to the spoils of their hard work. Most of these women have some sort of plan in mind when they decide to spend six days a week, twelve hours a day, waiting around in a basement to screw strangers from afar.

One big advantage of marrying an experienced massage lady is that she understands better than most what makes a man happy. And as long as you are willing to fulfill your husbandly duties in terms of being a breadwinner for her and her parents, then both you and she will be happy.So, if I understand what you write, for the women it is more about money than a fulfilling relationship. I have noticed that women in the sex business often become less and less able to achieve a coital orgasm as time goes on. Do you think a young woman will be happy very long in a "normal" marriage with an older foreigner if she is unfulfilled physically? That's when cousin Somchai often comes into the picture when "daddy" is off making money "for the family."

The main thing to remember is that when you try to get something for nothing, then it usually doesn't work out well for you. There is no clear exchange between men and women in western style marriages and relationships. And that's why such marriages and relationships end up so often in confusion and divorce. Without a clear-cut exchange, people have no way of knowing whether they are being treated fairly or not. And when people don't know, then their imagination takes over. And there is no limit to how unreasonable they can get with each other.True, but the divorce rate for Thai / farang couple is just as high, if not higher, than in the west. There are too many cultural and social obstacles that counter what you refer to as a "clear exchange."

I know what I hear and see. However much these young women in the sex business talk about their dreams of love, and make plans leading to marriage, the bottom line, as it is for most Thais, is primarily financial gain (and not just to support mama & papa).

Dan7373

12-10-10, 15:45

....So, if I understand what you write, for the women it is more about money than a fulfilling relationship. I have noticed that women in the sex business often become less and less able to achieve a coital orgasm as time goes on. Do you think a young woman will be happy very long in a "normal" marriage with an older foreigner if she is unfulfilled physically? That's when cousin Somchai often comes into the picture when "daddy" is off making money "for the family."It's not so much financial gain as social status that matters to most women, including those in the west. And having more money than your neighbors have does raise your social status among your neighbors.

And marrying a breadwinner for the family is the way traditional marriages work all over the world. This isn't just some nefarious scheme thought up by devious Thai P4P ladies to relieve farangs of their money.

A satisfying marriage usually includes a lot more than just sex, at least it does for women. And there is nothing wrong with satisfying your wife like that. It's an exchange. Guys want sex a lot more. And women want social status more. And a good compromise is when they give to each other what they want.

But it's true that some marriages between farangs and their Thai wives end in separation and divorce. Although I'm not so sure that such a divorce rate is high. I've known for about 7 years a number of farang-thai couples near a small town in Isaan. And over this time, only one of them split up and went their separate ways. Although I've heard about a couple other Thai ladies there who had almost got into long-term relationships with farangs, but this didn't last long for them. A lot of those couples don't get married officially. They have common law marriages. And sometimes it's hard to know whether they really had a marriage or not.

As for the ability of an older husband to satisfy his young Thai wife sexually, it really isn't that difficult if you know what you are doing. Viagra is available in Thailand for anyone who wishes to buy. And if you want to avoid the risk of a heart attack from taking too much Viagra and having too much exciting sex. Then a sensuous massage for your wife with plenty of lube will make her orgasm enough to satisfy her. Topical pussy massage for the young lady with plenty of lube makes her orgasm just like masturbation for the man does. Give your young wife a good hand-job. And this will satisfy her.

And if you don't know how to do something like this well. Then I suggest that you get some practice with Thai massage ladies, before you get married. One Thai massage lady actually showed me how to do it and had me practice this on her. She insisted that I get on top of her and ride, every time I brought her close to orgasm. But I've done this kind of a massage with other Thai ladies. And they did orgasm from it.

Syzygies

01-07-11, 15:01

Dao is back from 2 months off. Seemed extra horny if that is possible. Was my virgin anal today. Dao said was her first anal for 3 months and therefore to go easy. Although it felt quite nice, she didn't use muscles like her pussy does, so I still prefer pussy. Of course the deep BBBJ was supreme. Two shots.

Ezcardpm

01-22-11, 06:31

Stopped into Tulip last night around 10pm and almost had to wake receptionist at the desk. It wasn't hard at all to find the place, especially with a sign at eye-level when you are on the BTS platform. The only down-side of the visit is that before I could even say I wanted the oil massage, she had already called up the next in line so I never got to see what was available. I thought about asking to see the others, but the vibe from mine wasn't bad and I didn't want to ruin that if she was the best anyhow. Also, the others mentioned before might have been tired by this time since they are so popular and anyway the lady I got was very good. Said her name was mam, pronounced like ma'am. She was slightly older, but great skin, good body, and very skilled. She lived up to all Tulip expectations and went deep without a problem, both in the shower and on the bed. She was very persistent that I would get my money's worth and I left very happy but tired.

The only good thing about not seeing the lineup is that it makes it easy to get someone other than who you had last time without causing problems for anybody. At Mango the girls are sitting right in the waiting room and if a previous companion recognizes you, which they will, you might have a hard time picking anybody else. Of course, that might be ok, but I guess it depends on you.

Traveler1234

01-22-11, 14:19

The only good thing about not seeing the lineup is that it makes it easy to get someone other than who you had last time without causing problems for anybody.Can assure you that won't happen at Mango, or probably anywhere else. You're just a customer.

Syzygies

01-22-11, 16:08

Can assure you that won't happen at Mango, or probably anywhere else. You're just a customer.Ah, but some customers are more special than ordinary customers, and so perhaps not just customers. Girls are not keen to lose their regular customers, specially the ones that become potential boyfriends.

That's what makes Thai WGs special. They don't always treat you like "just another customer".
But I guess the real "butterflies" are treated as just a customer.

Traveler1234

01-23-11, 13:22

Ah, but some customers are more special than ordinary customers, and so perhaps not just customers. Girls are not keen to lose their regular customers, specially the ones that become potential boyfriends.Not trying to be argumentative but you can be a regular customer of an establishment, 'butterfly' and not cause problems with any of the girls. Good example is Bo. She spent solid 2 hrs at my place. 48 hrs later I visited, gave her a nice smile and wah, then picked Bam. Bo smiled back and actually chuckled and nodded her approval!

Ezcardpm

01-25-11, 11:53

Was out around 11pm and decided to hit Tulip since I was nearby and it was near closing time, so got paired up with Som for one hour. She was fairly quite and seemed a little tired, but we had a pretty good time to my satisfaction. It was a short session, but I left happy as they were turning off the lights.

M P Lurker

01-28-11, 11:42

Pita123

01-28-11, 14:01

Not trying to be argumentative but you can be a regular customer of an establishment, 'butterfly' and not cause problems with any of the girls. Good example is Bo. She spent solid 2 hrs at my place. 48 hrs later I visited, gave her a nice smile and wah, then picked Bam. Bo smiled back and actually chuckled and nodded her approval!Yeah, she sometimes answers the phone when I call for delivery. She's pleasant whether I'm calling for her or someone else.

And could you read exactly what Bo was thinking? Probably "Big Butterfly".

Yes butterflies are very acceptable! Girls that end up liking a customer sufficiently to end up marrying one will not be choosing a butterfly type.

Very true. But the poster just didn't want any drama. And these girls are unlikely to cause any drama because you choose someone else. They won't see you as a potential boyfriend, but they won't cause problems for you. They may cause trouble amongst themselves of course if jealousy of the poaching of the customer sets in.

Ezcardpm

01-28-11, 19:59

Very true. But the poster just didn't want any drama. And these girls are unlikely to cause any drama because you choose someone else. They won't see you as a potential boyfriend, but they won't cause problems for you. They may cause trouble amongst themselves of course if jealousy of the poaching of the customer sets in.I guess what I originally meant was that although the girls probably won't say anything to you, if they felt that they treated you nice and you come back and pick someone else, it sometimes seems to hurt their feelings at least a little. I know what you'll say about it being about the money and all, but even if that is true, it still might hurt a little cause it says something in their eyes about what you thought of the previous encounter. Even if I married someone just for their money, it wouldn't feel nice to learn that they don't like me anymore. Obviously, if they really know you and how you are (I. E. Being all about variety or something) , they may not be that way and yes I'm sure there are those ladies that just don't care. Also, if you are a halfway tolerable person, they probably prefer repeat customers over new ones. That way they get a chance to become more comfortable with you and they learn what you like and can have some satisfaction in being sure of providing what you like. As always, I'm sure everyone has had experiences with girls that lead them to believe to the contrary of what I'm saying. In my experience in Thailand, most girls are friendly and would like to do right by you if they can, which is an attitude that enables them to get their feelings hurt.

Now, I'm not saying you should never pick someone else. If you weren't treated right by someone, a good way to deal with them is to not pick them anymore. However, even if you were treated well and you just wanted to try someone else, you should be able to because you are the customer. I just think the nice thing to do is to try to find a way that causes the least possible problems. I believe a previous poster mentioned a way of doing this that respected and maintained friendly terms with another girl and I think that's great.

ButtLover

01-29-11, 10:24

Hi.

Are the beds at Tulips wide enough for advanced sex and threesomes?

When I visited Annies last year the beds were so narrow that sex from the side was impossible.

Recommendations of skinny girls who act like pornostars at Annies?

Thanks.

BL

Pita123

01-29-11, 11:38

Advanced sex?

ButtLover

01-29-11, 12:03

Advanced sex?Ok! Advanced positions then, not only missionary and doggy, lots of other positiones is hard to have in a very narrow bed!

BL

Old Asia Hand

01-29-11, 12:32

ButtLover

01-29-11, 13:10

Think sleeping bags with iron legs.Hi.

Maybe it's just me who has problems with narrow beds.

Most people seems to have sex only in Missionary and Doggy position and maybe cowgirl.

BL

BionicMan

01-29-11, 17:48

Hi. When I visited Annies last year the beds were so narrow that sex from the side was impossible.

BLI am definetely not a skinny guy but never had a space issue at Annie's and their beds: wide enough.

Pita123

01-29-11, 22:58

Hi.

Maybe it's just me who has problems with narrow beds.

Most people seems to have sex only in Missionary and Doggy position and maybe cowgirl.

BLCall them and have them send the girl to your hotel room.

Old Asia Hand

01-30-11, 06:31

Call them and have them send the girl to your hotel room.. Or call Central and have them send a bed over to Tulip.

ButtLover

01-31-11, 16:43

. Or call Central and have them send a bed over to Tulip.Hi.

Since no one could answer my question, or not realized the problem regarding the width of the beds, I make a new attempt by including a link to an image.

Is this position possible in the beds at tulips?

BL.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=142020&d=1290354580

Pita123

01-31-11, 23:42

Daddy San

02-04-11, 11:34

Hi.

Since no one could answer my question, or not realized the problem regarding the width of the beds, I make a new attempt by including a link to an image.

Is this position possible in the beds at tulips?

BL.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=142020&d=1290354580
Not possible.I was recently faced with a similar dilemma at an place, so far away, as to be irrelevant to this forum.

Fortunately, my girl was very ingenious (or perhaps familiar with the problem.).

She disengaged my "didi" from her "A+", threw me off the bed, lifted it up sideways against the wall, put the mattress on the floor, had me lie down again, stuck my "didi" into her "A+" and continued, as if nothing had happened, all within about 15 seconds.

Syzygies

02-05-11, 09:54

I guess what I originally meant was that although the girls probably won't say anything to you, if they felt that they treated you nice and you come back and pick someone else, it sometimes seems to hurt their feelings at least a little.Girls are very accustomed to "butterfly' customers who keep changing girls for variety. At soapies, most Thai customers always change girl, so as not to get attached to any one girl. The girl is most likely to be concerned somewhat, if a regular faithful customer suddenly changes to a different girl. So therefore it is best to not get stuck on any one girl, from the very beginning. So by all means play the field, so that no girl believes you are "her customer"!

NicFrenchy

02-05-11, 12:08

no girl believes you are "her customer"!But she likes to make you believe the opposite so that you feel bad and take only her.

Hunky Don

02-11-11, 11:56

Some of them even encourage you to look at "options". Maybe marketing colleagues or perhaps some revenue sharing.

But she likes to make you believe the opposite so that you feel bad and take only her.

Stevebny

02-12-11, 05:24

no girl believes you are "her customer"!Has anyone ever seen girls fight, really physically fight, over a customer?

Syzygies

02-12-11, 10:23

but she likes to make you believe the opposite so that you feel bad and take only her.ah yes. some girls will pretend to be peeved if you go with another. others don't need to pretend. i haven't ever seen girls come to physical fights over a customer, but could happen at a bar. i have certainly seen verbally fighting over "stealing a girl's customer". mps are usually a bit more dignified than bars.

Member #3200

02-16-11, 19:59

I went in to Tulip 3 days ago to have 1 last harrah before I came back home during the mid-afternoon hours and only 10 girls were available, as I narrowed my selection down to 2 based on the photos in the book I decided upon Ant.

She was short, sexy and a nice thai smile, but once we go into the room the rest of it went downhill for the most part.

She took alot more than the usual amount of time to get "the kit", very little play in the shower, very little kissing, rushed service, no 3rd hole, huffed & puffed that after a decent massage I wanted a 2nd round for which she made a jesture that she didn't have more condoms so HJ? BJ it was only going to be, no DATY on her nice hairy pussy because of my 6 day old goatee, finally after 70-75 minutes & me losing interest fast in mind & dick, I called it off.

I took 2 pics of this hiopefully ex-employee & she wanted tip for her services-DECLINED.

It was a race downstairs to see who could talk to mamasan 1st, I paid my room fee while shaking my head at mamasan & saying "no good, no good"

I love tulips and I really hope ownership / management does read ISG & fire Ant, this girl does a disservice to the tulip name.

1st time ever I have had bad service there and I'm not an overdemanding customer, I'm usually a passive individual, but this is 1 moment where certain actions need to be done, retraining won't help this girl at all

FarmWorker

02-17-11, 01:25

Who is best at deepthroat?

NicFrenchy

02-17-11, 01:57

Who is best at deepthroat?Franck or Paul

Mngweco

02-18-11, 03:37