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JjBee62
02-26-22, 05:05
Of course I care about someone admittedly infected with Covid getting on a plane to Bogota and hanging out in Medellin spreading a communicable disease around. I guess it does not become your business until you get it from whoever he gave it to or maybe from the Covid King himself. You must be a new recruit into the club. Did they already get to you? Break the spell dude.You lost me there. Are you talking about me? Granted, I admitted, after I was tested in Bogota (2 days after leaving Medellin), that I had tested positive. And, as I've already shown, by quoting your own post, after the fact I concluded that I had probably been infected before I flew to Colombia. Granted, it's understandable that someone who believes that all sex is exactly the same and no skills are involved, wouldn't understand the difference between testing positive and coming down with Covid symptoms is no different than not getting tested and not having any Covid symptoms. However, just like there's a difference between a chunky, out of shape 35 year old woman with at best an average face, and an 18 year old woman with a superior body, face and fitness level, there's also a difference between having no indication of Covid and testing positive for Covid.

In conclusion, you must not be talking about me. The only question is, who are you talking about? Are you talking about the 2 people who posted in the Bogota thread that they had Covid and continued with their business, including 1 who lives in Bogota and gives Santa Fe tours? Or are you talking about the person, who is quite well known for his jacuzzi threesomes and the pictures of those threesomes, who tested positive and asked whether or not he should quarantine?

Maybe you're thinking about the guy in Cartagena who tested positive and kept on seeing girls, even though at one point he could barely breath?

Perhaps you're talking about my favorite, although I can't remember whether he was in Medellin or Cartagena. You know who I'm talking about. He's the guy who tested positive, and instead of quarantining, flew through Mexico City to Tijuana, then walked across the border and got on another plane in San Diego to avoid the requirement for a negative test prior to return to the US. Not only did he knowingly put others at risk, but he posted about how everyone could fly back to the US while contagious.

So which one are you talking about? And why haven't you mentioned any of them?

Even if you are talking about me, which isn't possible unless you're insane, why would you be worried? You have posted a few times trying to convince everyone that the only people who can get Covid are people who aren't vaccinated (which provides a lot of support for your insanity defense. After all, how can you explain all those Covid cases before there were any vaccines).

Please continue with the ravings of a broke ass lunatic. If they're entertaining enough I'll send you some money so you don't have to sleep with the roaches and fuck senior citizens.

Shemp
02-26-22, 06:43
While it is possible to sell pussy with no skills, hell there are trannies out there selling pussy without having a pussy to sell, there are a lot of skills nobody ever considers.

1. The skill of looking at an old, fat, ugly customer and telling him how handsome he is.

2. The skill of looking at a sad little penis that looks like it belongs on a Chihuahua and convincing the guy it's the biggest she's ever seen.

3. The skill of not gagging over bad breath or nasty body odor.

4. The skill of convincing the customer that she's having the time of her life.

I've met quite a few mongers and not many are in the running for sexiest man alive. Yet most of the girls treat us like royalty.

Try that some time. Go out to a dive bar. Find a 60 year old woman with a body that rates a -46 on the 1-10 scale. Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.

Fantastic & hilarious & oh so true post! Occasionally for laughs I tell a chica that I need "una buena actriz" to take care of me. They of course say no acting needed but we know the truth! Yeah, these girls who usually have sex with hot 19 yr old Colombianos are now banging an unhot 60 yr old gringo. It ain't ez!

JonnyPokerStar
02-26-22, 09:15
While it is possible to sell pussy with no skills, hell there are trannies out there selling pussy without having a pussy to sell, there are a lot of skills nobody ever considers.

1. The skill of looking at an old, fat, ugly customer and telling him how handsome he is.

2. The skill of looking at a sad little penis that looks like it belongs on a Chihuahua and convincing the guy it's the biggest she's ever seen.

3. The skill of not gagging over bad breath or nasty body odor.

4. The skill of convincing the customer that she's having the time of her life.

I've met quite a few mongers and not many are in the running for sexiest man alive. Yet most of the girls treat us like royalty.

Try that some time. Go out to a dive bar. Find a 60 year old woman with a body that rates a -46 on the 1-10 scale. Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.Nailed it. I'll add that if skill was a non-factor, then the fittest, prettiest girls sellin' it would always make the most money, but observation reveals that this is not the case.

JonnyPokerStar
02-26-22, 09:36
A peanut seller doesn't earn peanuts. They sell peanuts. They have no need to earn peanuts, because they already have more peanuts than they can eat.

Rant follows.

1. What's a substantial amount of money? Put a dollar amount, or peso amount on it. I'll spend $50-$100 without giving it a thought, for food, for sex, for some gadget that I think is neat, or on a present for someone. If I'm out shopping and see a shirt I really like, I don't look at the price, I look for one in my size. I don't pass it by because I can get a shirt for $3 in some other store.

2. Is there no difference between girls? Are they all basically identical? If that's the case, why pay anything at all? I can go anywhere and find women who will fuck me for free, do my laundry, feed me and allow me to stay with them free of charge. If that 45 year old 250# woman is no different than an 18-25 year old woman who is in fantastic shape, why leave home, pay for airfare, pay for lodging, pay for food and pay for sex?.He wins, he is better at us at banging Colombian hookers.

I personally never recommend a wise (or any) course of action to internet mongers because their presence increases the probability that prices will increase and the expected value for the number of dicks a given girl at my favorite spot has had in her already. This doesn't require years of research, and thinking of it as anything other than recreation is madness. That being said I hope you all have as much fun as I do fucking these girls.

Elvis 2008
02-26-22, 14:34
Let's just settle this. I would say man to man, but that would be holding you to an unrealistic standard. Let's stick with man to silly and pathetic little idiot.Nah, let's stick with man and two Democratic douches. I do not consider you and Villainy men because if I want to know what you two think I will watch MSNBC.


Let's forget about your earlier claims that quarantines, social distancing and masks were completely useless.See what I mean about you being a douche? This is not an opinion based on data. It is you fawning over the liberal media. That is why you are not a man. But I am not going to debate it. It is obvious to me that you do not know what the fuck you are talking about, and Covid is done.


As I've mentioned before, at least 5 people have posted on the Colombian board that they did not quarantine after testing positive for Covid. One person even went as far as to report that he flew to Tijuana and walked across the border because he couldn't pass the negative test required to enter the US.None of them bragged about how they had the answer to Covid like you did. Hell, I even called myself stupid going into a strip club and banging a chick who lost her taste and smell was stupid. Got that? They were at risk events. No one was perfect, but there is a difference between not being perfect and defending stupid.

I am not even going to debate you on what you did in Florida and Colombia were stupid. There is nothing new there.

What I was actually talking about was Villainy praising you and putting me down. I don't even care about the praise. It is the next line that got me. I wonder if Elvis and others would have done that? That is where Villainy lost credibility. He can deny he is a Democratic douche all he wants, but that clinched it for me.

When Villainy stupidly said that he was protected when he had lunch with you because he was vaccinated, did you correct him and say you got Covid when vaccinated? Of course not. He is a fellow douche, and you are going to protect him no matter how stupid he is.

And then when it came to his ridiculous claim that Medellin cab drivers do not rip people off, did you correct him then? Nope.

Hell, Paulie came out and said there were sides, and he thought it was Democrats versus Republicans but it was really Democrats versus people who think independently.

One of the things I cannot stand about the elites is they are always saying you have to sacrifice but not them. Al Gore can preach environmental concerns while on a private jet and you douches give him a pass. Hell, you sign up for the cause and say "Yes, we care more about the environment than you. " That is virtue signaling, and you douches do it all the time.

Villainy was not helping members of the forum about cabs. He was being an asshole and attacking me.

And the same goes for you and masks. You are wrong on masks, Elvis. Uh okay. I asked you a question: were you wearing a mask when you got infected by your brother? You did not answer, so I am going to say you were not.

I do not find fault with your not wearing a mask and saying you believe in mask mandates is typical but saying you believe in mask mandates when you got infected while not wearing one means you are a hypocritical moron.

You are so warped in the head you do not even get the mask debate. There is a huge difference between mask wearing when outside in public and wearing them around people known to be sick. But obviously to you and the rest of the virtue signaling douches, there is none. It is "I believe in masks, and that means, I am better than you."

JustTK
02-26-22, 14:57
Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.
I didn't realise that you had met me? Haha, funny post, albiet with quite a bit of fallacious reasoning.

Have you thoought about other so called distasteful jobs. Slaughterhouse worker, meat packer, street cleaner, rubbish tip worker, OAP nurse, many others. None of these are well paid either. But plenty find job satisfaction.

Villainy
02-26-22, 15:38
I have bought fake Cialis from a farmacia in Tijuana it was in a box with the logo on the tinfoil blister pak, everything was printed with Cialis like the real thing, also with the hologram sticker seal.

Those pills are around 90 usd in USA.

I paid 5 usd each, you can't buy legit brand name Cialis 20 MG for 5 usd in Tijuana they were knockoffs and did nothing for me, but steal my money.

Hopefully no toxic ingredients.Who knows. Maybe after you hit puberty you won't have the problem.

Weren't you in the pack of conspiracy theorists that claimed the 'CoVid vaccine' was prematurely approved by the FDA and was ineffective? But now you claim the FDA does a superior job testing and validating prescription drugs manufactured outside the US? Can't seem to make up your mind? Or are you just a hypocrite? (Ask your sixth grade teacher to tell you what that means).

Kafka
02-26-22, 16:17
Thats funny. But true.


While it is possible to sell pussy with no skills, hell there are trannies out there selling pussy without having a pussy to sell, there are a lot of skills nobody ever considers.

1. The skill of looking at an old, fat, ugly customer and telling him how handsome he is.

2. The skill of looking at a sad little penis that looks like it belongs on a Chihuahua and convincing the guy it's the biggest she's ever seen.

3. The skill of not gagging over bad breath or nasty body odor.

4. The skill of convincing the customer that she's having the time of her life.

I've met quite a few mongers and not many are in the running for sexiest man alive. Yet most of the girls treat us like royalty.

Try that some time. Go out to a dive bar. Find a 60 year old woman with a body that rates a -46 on the 1-10 scale. Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.

Fantastic & hilarious & oh so true post! Occasionally for laughs I tell a chica that I need "una buena actriz" to take care of me. They of course say no acting needed but we know the truth! Yeah, these girls who usually have sex with hot 19 yr old Colombianos are now banging an unhot 60 yr old gringo. It ain't ez!

Mr Enternational
02-26-22, 18:01
Fantastic & hilarious & oh so true post! Occasionally for laughs I tell a chica that I need "una buena actriz" to take care of me. They of course say no acting needed but we know the truth! Yeah, these girls who usually have sex with hot 19 yr old Colombianos are now banging an unhot 60 yr old gringo. It ain't ez!I can kind of see where you are coming from. You are talking as if every monger is the most vile disgusting human ever so they should be paid maximum maximum. I am basing my opinion that most mongers are regular ordinary guys so why should a premium need to be paid for a chick that is probably doing this job because she can not do anything else.

That is where price discrimination comes into play. If person A is normal or the hot 19 year old you are talking about then they can be charged a normal rate. If person be is horrendous then they can be charged 3 times more. But of course this type of pricing would only be done with a freelancer, who by the way is not forced into anything and can say you are so ugly that a dog would not sleep with you and go about her way instead of fucking you at all.

How do you explain casas and the like where the hot 19 year old pays the exact same cheap rate as the horrible looking 60 year old? Why don't those chicks ever go on strike and demand more payment if the guy is over 25 and out of shape? And in those places mongers pay the same for the best looking chick as they do the worst looking chick.

It seems many mongers have more reasons why the hookers should make more than the hookers that actually have to do the job have.

MarquisdeSade1
02-26-22, 20:25
I can kind of see where you are coming from. You are talking as if every monger is the most vile disgusting human ever so they should be paid maximum maximum. I am basing my opinion that most mongers are regular ordinary guys so why should a premium need to be paid for a chick that is probably doing this job because she can not do anything else.

That is where price discrimination comes into play. If person A is normal or the hot 19 year old you are talking about then they can be charged a normal rate. If person be is horrendous then they can be charged 3 times more. But of course this type of pricing would only be done with a freelancer, who by the way is not forced into anything and can say you are so ugly that a dog would not sleep with you and go about her way instead of fucking you at all.

How do you explain casas and the like where the hot 19 year old pays the exact same cheap rate as the horrible looking 60 year old? Why don't those chicks ever go on strike and demand more payment if the guy is over 25 and out of shape? And in those places mongers pay the same for the best looking chick as they do the worst looking chick..Most of the answers to the all vitriol on this forum, why "pay more if you don't have to."

They pay more because they have to! You know it, I know it, they know it, everyone knows it.

But they prefer to call you a broke ass monger and themselves "ballers" LOL.

Fun Luvr
02-26-22, 20:51
Try that some time. Go out to a dive bar. Find a 60 year old woman with a body that rates a -46 on the 1-10 scale. Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.Are you describing yourself?

Nil Admirari
02-26-22, 21:42
Thats funny. But true.Just a quick note to point out that a number of you have been commenting on a post by BM Shemp which was actually drafted by JjBee62, but which Shemp (I assume unintentionally) included in his post without putting it in the usual QUOTE box. Speaking as a certified geezer myself, I found JjBee62 observations to be both amusing and tellingly on target. As a a parenthetical addendum, let me add that not only am I amazed at the ability / willingness of many if not most of the wg chicas here to weave the GFE illusion, but, even more incredibly, am astounded by those girls, who, when between the sheets with a guy 50-60 years their senior (old enough to be their great-grandfather), can actually get the juices flowing in copious quantities and reach the climatic Big-O.

MarquisdeSade1
02-26-22, 22:08
Who knows. Maybe after you hit puberty you won't have the problem.

Weren't you in the pack of conspiracy theorists that claimed the 'CoVid vaccine' was prematurely approved by the FDA and was ineffective? But now you claim the FDA does a superior job testing and validating prescription drugs manufactured outside the US? Can't seem to make up your mind? Or are you just a hypocrite? (Ask your sixth grade teacher to tell you what that means).Read my posts I was probably one of the 1st people in the world vaxxed, I was one of the 1st that recd the Moderna vax in its trial at the you of Chicago around Labor Day 2020.

Now wipe the diarrhea off your mouth and keep it closed!

JustTK
02-26-22, 22:20
Just a quick note to point out that a number of you have been commenting on a post by BM Shemp which was actually drafted by JjBee62Ah, that would explain the fallacious reasoning.

WRT girls enjoying it, surely that's further proof that's it not such a traumatic job. In any case, all they need is close close their eyes or ask for doggy, and they can imagine you are anyone they want you to be.

JjBee62
02-26-22, 22:42
I can kind of see where you are coming from. You are talking as if every monger is the most vile disgusting human ever so they should be paid maximum maximum. I am basing my opinion that most mongers are regular ordinary guys so why should a premium need to be paid for a chick that is probably doing this job because she can not do anything else.

That is where price discrimination comes into play. If person A is normal or the hot 19 year old you are talking about then they can be charged a normal rate. If person be is horrendous then they can be charged 3 times more. But of course this type of pricing would only be done with a freelancer, who by the way is not forced into anything and can say you are so ugly that a dog would not sleep with you and go about her way instead of fucking you at all.

How do you explain casas and the like where the hot 19 year old pays the exact same cheap rate as the horrible looking 60 year old? Why don't those chicks ever go on strike and demand more payment if the guy is over 25 and out of shape? And in those places mongers pay the same for the best looking chick as they do the worst looking chick.

It seems many mongers have more reasons why the hookers should make more than the hookers that actually have to do the job have.Not even close. But it does at least give a chance to use your McDonald's analogy in a way that makes sense.

But first, nobody said every monger is vile and disgusting. However, anyone with any experience is well aware that mongers come in all shapes, sizes and ages, and there are some who could improve their hygiene.

At McDonald's it doesn't matter who the customer is, everyone gets what's on the menu for the price on the menu. Sometimes you get a burger with extra grease, sometimes the fries are cold, but you get the same basic choices for the same price.

Same thing with a casa. Occasionally you'll find a girl there who looks too good to be there, but usually you're looking at a bunch of average girls and trying to decide if one is better than the rest. Just like at McDonald's, the girls at a casa don't get to set the base price. The only flexibility they have is to charge extra for extra services. The same as McDonald's will charge extra for cheese, or larger orders of fries, or a bunch of extra sauce for your McNuggets.

As for the hot 19 year old, she probably isn't staying long at the casa, the same as the culinary arts student isn't staying at McDonald's after he finishes schooling. Both are doing what they must until they have better options.

Let me explain about a type of force which you're quite familiar with, Economic Pressure. That's where you're forced to do things you might not like because your financial situation won't let you change. It's why some mongers will only stay in the cheapest hotels and pay for the cheapest girls. It's why many people continue with a job they hate. It's why most of the girls get into prostitution in the first place. At least in Colombia, it's not because they can't do anything else. It's because nothing else is available.

It's a very simple equation. If the prostitute doesn't fuck, the prostitute doesn't get paid. If she regularly finds herself with plenty of customers to choose from, which sometimes happens at a casa, she can choose which customer she wants, or she can influence which customer chooses her. I'm sure others have noticed it as well.

However, when customers are few and far between, and the rent is due, there's no food in the house and her kid needs medicine, her choices are limited. She takes what she can get from whoever is offering.

That's where the various types of mongers comes into play. If she starts making comments about how disgusting you are, about your weight, age, or anything else, her chance of getting paid goes down. Instead she smiles, rubs on you and feeds your ego and once she has her money, she goes away.

As for why all girls shouldn't be paid the lowest possible rate, I've explained that several times and in several ways. I don't know if it's possible to further simplify it, but I'll try.

If you walk down the south side of the Veracruz church you'll see, in no particular order, a few women who look to be in their 40's and 50's, out of shape and overweight. You'll see a few trannies. You'll see maybe a couple of reasonably attractive young girls. You might see one or 2 who look too young. You might see one or two who look to be unwashed. When you get to the corner, you'll see more women of varying ages, sizes and attractiveness. Head north and you'll see more girls, some decent, some not so decent and some who are downright scary. You might get lucky and see one or two looking damn fine. Remember all of them for a moment.

If you get on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or many other sites you'll find the same mix. Some look fantastic, some look bleh. Many of them have other jobs, some have jobs that pay quite well.

If I can borrow someone's 1-10 scale for just a moment, if you spend enough time looking you can find women for each number, no matter how you rate them. If you're being honest you'll notice that the overall average in El Centro is quite a bit lower than the online average, based solely on appearance.

So why wouldn't someone who is more attractive, cleaner and better educated be able to earn more? I don't know if she's still around, but there used to be a one legged, toothless woman who hung out across the street behind the church. Are you saying she should be paid the same as the hottest girl working that street?

How about the women who frequently travel to Europe, working as models? Should they only get the same amount as Hopalong Gummy?

As I've said before the same thing applies universally. People who are better suited for their profession usually get paid more.

Kafka
02-27-22, 02:03
Can we get back to enjoying the hobby instead of is ridiculous arguments about whether the girls enjoy it or if they're overpaid or if its good or bad job. Who the fuck cares,? It's a hobby enjoy it or find something else to do.

Knowledge
02-27-22, 02:13
Amen, I mean what the fuck is going on in this thread. Moderator, can't this please be moved to some other thread dedicated to gripes and off topic bickering.


Can we get back to enjoying the hobby instead of is ridiculous arguments about whether the girls enjoy it or if they're overpaid or if its good or bad job. Who the fuck cares,? It's a hobby enjoy it or find something else to do.

Huacho
02-27-22, 02:42
Read my posts I was probably one of the 1st people in the world vaxxed, I was one of the 1st that recd the Moderna vax in its trial at the you of Chicago around Labor Day 2020.

Now wipe the diarrhea off your mouth and keep it closed!Except you were lying about that just like you've lied about all the places you've been. When you turn 18 you can get a passport but you still won't have a job, a life, or any money. If your dick were wood and your hand were sandpaper, you would be down to a toothpick.

BlackThought
02-27-22, 03:21
What is your medical or pharmaceutical background? Jajaja I have a pharmacist license.Marquis's pharma background is just as credible as his mongering background. Bunch of copy / paste from articles / blogs LOL.

ShooBree
02-27-22, 03:47
Except you were lying about that just like you've lied about all the places you've been. When you turn 18 you can get a passport but you still won't have a job, a life, or any money. If your dick were wood and your hand were sandpaper, you would be down to a toothpick.Lmfao, you're still a crazy weirdo.

ShooBree
02-27-22, 03:53
Are you describing yourself?Obviously.

Its quite obvious that many of the men on here are ugly and pathetic. Just look at Paulie and G*yG*yBee coming on this site to seek contact with strange men. No friends having clown assholes.

JjBee62
02-27-22, 04:53
He wins, he is better at us at banging Colombian hookers.

I personally never recommend a wise (or any) course of action to internet mongers because their presence increases the probability that prices will increase and the expected value for the number of dicks a given girl at my favorite spot has had in her already. This doesn't require years of research, and thinking of it as anything other than recreation is madness. That being said I hope you all have as much fun as I do fucking these girls.I didn't know anyone was keeping score. Is there a trophy?

However, you're correct. I do win. Always. I win because I play the game my own way and accept the outcome without trying to blame others if the outcome isn't ideal.

I never worry about prices going up. Why would I? I'm not competing with a bunch of other guys to buy time with a handful of girls. On any given day I've got access to thousands of girls in Medellin. Whenever I post that I'm in town, I've got a line of women asking to see me.

That doesn't make me special in any way. I set things up so it works to my advantage. I've explained how to do it several times. It's quite simple.

Besides a price increase is meaningless to me. The first time I visited Colombia the exchange rate was 1900 to 1. For most of the past 2 years it's been 3800 to 1 or better. The price could double and my cost is unchanged. Add in that my income has more than doubled over the past 4 years. Paying $10 more isn't going to break me.

It is only recreation, but you don't seem to understand what that means. Let's use a type of recreation I used to enjoy; archery. Some people enjoy using a longbow, some use a recurve bow, some use a crossbow. I preferred a compound bow. Some like to hunt, some just enjoy target practice in the backyard, some compete in leagues, or in single competitions. Many involve themselves in several ways.

The point is, there are many different ways to engage in your preferred recreation. We're not all required to do it the same way, we're not all required to do it at the same frequency or to spend the same amount. My first bow I bought used for $50. My last bow had an $800 price tag. Nobody in my league complained I was driving up the price of bows.

MarquisdeSade1
02-27-22, 05:53
Except you were lying about that just like you've lied about all the places you've been. When you turn 18 you can get a passport but you still won't have a job, a life, or any money. If your dick were wood and your hand were sandpaper, you would be down to a toothpick.Evidenced by the context of this post you have the IQ of a 3 yr old mental midget, well played DUM DUM.

JjBee62
02-27-22, 07:09
Can we get back to enjoying the hobby instead of is ridiculous arguments about whether the girls enjoy it or if they're overpaid or if its good or bad job. Who the fuck cares,? It's a hobby enjoy it or find something else to do.Is someone stopping you from enjoying it? The posts on ISG are occasionally informative, sometimes entertaining and frequently just people bickering, but for most of us, reading and replying here has nothing to do with enjoying the hobby.

Are the arguments ridiculous? Only if you feel everyone is required to be attracted to the same girls, have the same experience and pay the same price. Otherwise those are valid questions.

Whether or not the girl is enjoying it is important to me. There are 3 possibilities. She is enjoying herself, she's putting on a believable act that she's enjoying it, or she's clearly not enjoying it.

The first one is obviously best, but the second is acceptable. If she's putting on a good act, then her desire to get paid is stronger than her desire to be somewhere else. But if she has no desire to be with me, I'm sending her home. Thirty years ago I might not have cared, if she was hot enough, but these days, there's nothing about that type of encounter which appeals to me.

I understand that some of the discussions cause people some discomfort. Most guys prefer to believe that the girls are all thrilled to have the opportunity to fuck us and get paid. Most guys prefer to imagine the hookers making a lot of money and retiring early with all their riches. Some go as far as saying that prostitution is no different than any other job.

It would be great if all those things were true, but they aren't. None of that needs to matter to you. It's easy to stick with the 3 F method: Find them, Fuck them, Forget them.

However, fully understanding something works in your favor. For example there are often long discussions about using ATMs. Villainy and others have written complete explanations about using ATMs in Colombia. By understanding the process many people can maximize their exchange rate and minimize fees.

Having an accurate understanding of the reality of prostitution can improve your experience and reduce your costs. Reducing cost is simple. Just find the cheapest girls and only pay them. This cuts your costs in 2 ways. You're paying less per girl and with a high risk of unappealing girls, unacceptable rooms and substandard service you might not be as interested in the hobby.

If that sounds like a win-win to you, read no further.

For me, better experiences are more important than saving a few dollars. If I can do both that's great.

People work to get paid. In that regard, prostitution is just another job. If you go no deeper, you're just another customer. You get the standard experience. But if you understand the negative aspects of the job and the other motivations, you can make a better connection and get a better experience. It's simple. Instead of being a bad customer, you can be a good customer.

The strange thing about understanding a situation to have a better experience is that everyone already knows it. It's something all of us started learning shortly after birth. It's something which is reinforced daily, but a few people still don't understand. People give examples on ISG all the time.

If you're staying in a building with security, are you more likely to have less problems bringing girls back if you tell at the porteros and tell them they better not cause you problems, or if you take a few minutes to get to know them and treat them nice? How about at a restaurant? Does being an asshole get you better service than being friendly?

I'll end with this. I don't remember having any bad experiences in the past 4 years and I don't believe I've had a girl arrive more than 45 minutes late. Over the same period I haven't had a single girl flake on me.

JjBee62
02-27-22, 08:45
Ah, that would explain the fallacious reasoning.

WRT girls enjoying it, surely that's further proof that's it not such a traumatic job. In any case, all they need is close close their eyes or ask for doggy, and they can imagine you are anyone they want you to be.Do you never tire of being wrong?

It doesn't explain the fallacious reasoning, because you haven't established the existence of fallacious reasoning and that looks like a battle you can't win. Your first obstacle is to tell everyone who agreed with the post that they're wrong.

Speaking of fallacious reasoning, let's look at the example you were nice enough to provide.

Individual experiences do not determine overall trends. If 1 person enjoys going to the dentist is that proof everyone enjoys going to the dentist. If 1 person has a foot fetish is that proof that foot fetishes are universal? In simpler terms, if someone who hates their job has a day at work they enjoy is it proof they love their job?

Equally, if some prostitutes sometimes enjoy being with some customers, it doesn't even suggest that prostitution is not a traumatic profession.

Whether or not a job is traumatic can be measured. With respect to current events, is combat duty more traumatic than non-combat military service? How does it compare to other occupations? Compare suicide rates, likelihood of substance abuse, divorce rates, incidence of mental health issues and rates of depression and you get a clear answer. Do the same with prostitution. It's already been done and the answer is just as clear.

Unfortunately, that's the way that crazy science stuff works. Why accept the unqualified and biased opinion of some fool, when you can find a definitive answer?

Once again, I invite you to prove your claims to yourself and anyone else can also do this. You should have no trouble finding one of the old, overweight women who sell themselves in El Centro. Negotiate for her services and take her to a room. Once you're in the room, close your eyes and imagine she is anyone you want. While you're at it, imagine the short time rooms is a 5 star hotel.

Let me know how that works out.

JjBee62
02-27-22, 10:05
Can anyone here explain how this makes any sense at all?


In any case, all they need is close close their eyes or ask for doggy, and they can imagine you are anyone they want you to be.In case you missed the context, he's discussing how working girls can handle being with guys who they find unattractive.

Anyone here can put that to the test, without even testing it.

Take a moment to think about a woman, in particular, a woman who you are not in any way attracted to. A long time ago my friends and I played a game called how many beers. It's somewhat heartless, but easy to play. Pick a woman and decide how many beers you would need to drink before you would fuck her. For this test pick somewhere between a 10 beer girl and death from alcohol poisoning.

Here's the difficult part. Imagine you're naked in bed with her. Now imagine, while in bed with the disgusting woman, that you are closing your eyes and pretending she's the most beautiful woman you've ever seen.

How successful do you think you would be at pretending she's some beauty queen?

PedroMorales
02-27-22, 10:47
there used to be a one legged, toothless woman who hung out across the street behind the church. Are you saying she should be paid the same as the hottest girl working that street.I've bonked dwarves, grand mothers, mothers of ten. I have a friend who bonked a one legged German. The odd time I am with with American women, I always insist on fucking them up the tradesman's entrance before cumming on their fat faces. I find it odd they and similar "locals" over charge and under perform, like they are something special. The problem with being in the civilized world is Third Worlders quickly adapt to take the benefits. No more LBFMing from them.

Paulie97
02-27-22, 15:24
While it is possible to sell pussy with no skills, hell there are trannies out there selling pussy without having a pussy to sell, there are a lot of skills nobody ever considers.

1. The skill of looking at an old, fat, ugly customer and telling him how handsome he is.

2. The skill of looking at a sad little penis that looks like it belongs on a Chihuahua and convincing the guy it's the biggest she's ever seen.

3. The skill of not gagging over bad breath or nasty body odor.

4. The skill of convincing the customer that she's having the time of her life.

I've met quite a few mongers and not many are in the running for sexiest man alive. Yet most of the girls treat us like royalty.

Try that some time. Go out to a dive bar. Find a 60 year old woman with a body that rates a -46 on the 1-10 scale. Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.Funny but mostly a fantasy. In the casas and strip clubs most do not go to all that effort but put something in the range of the least effort possible. It's routine, and even your young hunks that go there get the same service. Many Facebook girls are the same way unless they are eager for repeat business, some are, some aren't. At the end of the day for all of them it's a job.

P.S. The analogy of fucking an old greasy gringa doesn't work real well for the simple difference between male and female sexuality. Men need to produce wood, no easy task in such a situation. All the woman needs is a bottle of lube and open legs.

PedroMorales
02-27-22, 16:51
You say you want a mirror image of this thread? But this thread is for stupid shit, some of which is of use. Your gripe should be with moderating other non stupid shit threads. You should be asking that those other threads should be heavily pruned of stupid shit to increase their information to noise ratio. The stupid shit threads are an attempt to do what you ask.


Amen, I mean what the fuck is going on in this thread. Moderator, can't this please be moved to some other thread dedicated to gripes and off topic bickering.

LoveItHere69
02-27-22, 20:39
Amen, I mean what the fuck is going on in this thread. Moderator, can't this please be moved to some other thread dedicated to gripes and off topic bickering.Totally agree. 70+% of posts fit the stupid half but have nothing to do with Medellin. Mostly name calling.

JjBee62
02-28-22, 00:26
This is not an attack, it's a discussion. React however you wish, or ignore it. I'll probably survive.


Totally agree. 70+% of posts fit the stupid half but have nothing to do with Medellin. Mostly name calling.Welcome to the real world.

Have you ever had to sit through a meeting that lasted much longer than necessary because there's always someone who has to bring up unrelated topics? Ever been in a group conversation about some subject and had someone jump in with something completely different? How about the group conversation that someone won't let move to a different subject, because they only want to talk about one thing?

Online forums are no different. They never have been and never will be. I might get some of the details wrong because it's been 30 years and I don't feel like looking it up, but there was a famous battle over this back in the early 1990's. An immigration lawyer in Phoenix started flooding internet forums with ads for his services to help people get green cards. It didn't matter what the purpose of the forum was, he spammed them with his ads. It caused quite an uproar.

My favorite, or least favorite, example happened long ago. I was waiting at a public storage facility for a customer and had the laborer I was stuck with that day with me. An old Chinese man was sitting in the lobby, visiting his daughter, the owner. He was making tea and invited us to join him. He was talking about it being his first trip out of China, about the significance of the tea, Chinese culture and several things I found interesting. Out of nowhere the laborer started talking about the argument he had with his girlfriend.

It's not always intentional. Often it starts with with a bit of bad advice or information and snowballs from there. And yes, I'm well aware that I'm probably the worst offender of taking bad information and turning it into a pissing contest. Bad information and abject stupidity annoy me.

There's only one effective solution, require admin approval for every post. It's not a perfect solution, because the admins aren't infallible and it creates a lot more work, while slowing down access to useful information. However, it should eliminate most of the useless posts. I doubt if that will happen.

There are other ways to deal with it, except none of them will eliminate the problem.

1. Ignore the posts. We all know our way around Medellin. None of us require any information found on the Medellin thread. On rare occasions there's some information which saves the trouble of looking it up, or tells us we might want to look it up, but it's not likely to be critical to what we're doing.

2. Report every post which you think should be removed. It might not have any effect, but at least you're bringing the problem is the attention of the only ones who can fix it.

3. Call it out. If you think a post is stupid, call it stupid and explain why it's stupid (instead of just attacking the author). Initially it makes the problem worse, but there are some benefits. First, you're getting involved in the discussion and there's a chance you'll discover something. Second, it's more likely to bring the offending post to the admin's attention, so they can move it. Third, you're lending your unique perspective to the issues, along with your reputation.

Finally, you're applying peer pressure. If I point out that something doesn't make sense, it's just that asshole Jjbee causing trouble. If 5 different people point it out, then whoever posted it, even me, might think twice before their next useless offering.

Of course none of the above is going to happen. Complaining about something is easy, almost everyone does it. There's no risk involved. Worst case someone insults you, then you take turns hurling insults, while ignoring everything else the other person says (or assuming it's an attack on you).

Rolling up your metaphorical sleeves and trying to fix something is hard and there's the risk of failure. It's much better to sit around and pretend every problem is new and someone else is to blame.

JjBee62
02-28-22, 01:38
Funny but mostly a fantasy. In the casas and strip clubs most do not go to all that effort but put something in the range of the least effort possible. It's routine, and even your young hunks that go there get the same service. Many Facebook girls are the same way unless they are eager for repeat business, some are, some aren't. At the end of the day for all of them it's a job.

P.S. The analogy of fucking an old greasy gringa doesn't work real well for the simple difference between male and female sexuality. Men need to produce wood, no easy task in such a situation. All the woman needs is a bottle of lube and open legs.I had to go back to my post to clarify a few things. Accuracy is important.

Nowhere in my post, or in Shemp's post which didn't correctly quote my post were strip clubs, casas or Facebook girls mentioned, but I'm happy to discuss all 3.

Strip clubs, in my experience, you're correct. The girls rarely put forth much effort in the room. They'll work to get you in the room, but they've already earned their money before your pants come off.

Casas, you're correct if you fail to pay attention to the signs which are obvious during the lineup. I've mentioned this several times. If you pick a girl who shows interest and enthusiasm, you're more likely to get a girl who will try to please you. If you pick a girl who is bored and won't make eye contact, you end up with a girl who already told you she's not interested. The downside is, the most interested girl and the most attractive girl are almost never the same girl.

Facebook isn't much different from the casas. You still need to find the girls who are going to put forth some effort. When I first started using Facebook my choices were about 50-50. Once I started comparing duda to firecrackers, I improved my success rate.

It is a job, except for a small number of women. That's another subject for another day. I don't think anyone said it's not a job. The discussion is whether there are any skills which a girl can use to improve her job performance and customer satisfaction rating. Another part of the discussion is whether the job is different from a more mainstream job. Since I don't believe anyone here has ever worked as a Colombian prostitute, you can either rely on unqualified opinion or available research. Take your pick.

As for your P.S., it appears the editor changed it from BS.

Yes, make and female sexuality are different. Each responds to different cues and stimuli. However, just like natural lubrication can be replaced by artificial lubrication, natural male arousal can be replaced by artificial means. Both you and I already use pharmaceutical aids. There are other methods besides the little blue pills. Check your local men's health clinic for other options.

Besides, are you really going to argue that there's no difference between a woman who needs lube and just lays there and a woman who is an aroused and active participant?

I almost forgot. (Wink).

Paulie97
02-28-22, 07:01
I had to go back to my post to clarify a few things. Accuracy is important.

Nowhere in my post, or in Shemp's post which didn't correctly quote my post were strip clubs, casas or Facebook girls mentioned, but I'm happy to discuss all 3. I never read your post, only Shemp's satire and the one or two that gave him the high five. I also felt accuracy was important. Wink. I probably read 30% of the Colombia posts at most. You never crossed my mind when creating that post.


Strip clubs, in my experience, you're correct. The girls rarely put forth much effort in the room. They'll work to get you in the room, but they've already earned their money before your pants come off. Same goes for the casas as even New Life is now collecting in advance. Though it's easier to get full refunds than at strip clubs if the girl is uncooperative prior to penetration.


Casas, you're correct if you fail to pay attention to the signs which are obvious during the lineup. I've mentioned this several times. If you pick a girl who shows interest and enthusiasm, you're more likely to get a girl who will try to please you. If you pick a girl who is bored and won't make eye contact, you end up with a girl who already told you she's not interested. The downside is, the most interested girl and the most attractive girl are almost never the same girl. That's fascinating, how much you feel you can learn from a quick glance, a handshake and announcement of a name. Can you read used car salesmen as good as you can hookers? That would be a very useful and even marketable skill. The enthusiastic one may be a pitch girl and the aloof one shy who will fuck your brains out. How many times do we hear about girls across various venues talking a good game then changing in the room? Now of course we have plenty of guys who claim to have virtually no bad experiences, but all we have as "proof" are their anecdotes. Many guys like trying to make themselves look good, even over the internet.

It's true that the more attractive ones tend to be worse in the room, but that has nothing to do with their handshake, glance, "Dulce," and turn and departure as she makes room for the girl behind her. Also I've never had one fail to make eye contact that I can remember, which I don't necessarily take as a compliment. Your typical casa girl has her mind on the money she takes home at the end of the day, and has resigned herself to take on all swinging dicks. Their biggest complaint is hung men that fuck them too hard for their taste leaving them sore, and both handsome a disgusting men can pull that off. But based on the above comments I suspect your casa experience is limited.


IYes, make and female sexuality are different. Each responds to different cues and stimuli. However, just like natural lubrication can be replaced by artificial lubrication, natural male arousal can be replaced by artificial means. Both you and I already use pharmaceutical aids. There arl behind her.re other methods besides the little blue pills. Check your local men's health clinic for other options.You talk to me about BS and don't even know that Viagra does nothing to faciliate sexual arousal?? LOL No arousal still no wood. Viagra only facilitates greater blood flow to the penis. But if you are aware of any drugs that assist with arousal when faced with a 60 year old gringa whose face looks like it was dipped in a deep fat fryer, please tell us about them as Viagra does zilch. There's some natural supplements that reportedly help with arousal, but clinical evidence is very limited. May be even more limited or non-existent when faced with someone you are replused by. But the woman can be repulsed and still perform, just open legs and apply lube. That was the point.


Besides, are you really going to argue that there's no difference between a woman who needs lube and just lays there and a woman who is an aroused and active participant? There occasionally comes a time to answer a question with a question, are you really going to erect a strawman and knock it down? Well yea, you just did so I answered my own question. LOL.

You'll likely get the last word on this one, as in the end the subject is pretty trivial and I'm wrapping up my Medellin adventure. The locals rest on Sundays so I often do the same. Be safe out on the roads and Long Live Ukraine.

Elvis 2008
03-01-22, 07:07
Have you thoought about other so called distasteful jobs. Slaughterhouse worker, meat packer, street cleaner, rubbish tip worker, OAP nurse, many others. None of these are well paid either. But plenty find job satisfaction.JustTK,

Of course, you are right. Thing is this attitude is a Democratic douche mindset, and it hurts both sexes while benefitting the pols who spew it. Women are promised that "they deserve better" and told to not settle, and any time men hurt women, they are pigs that have to be $ to soothe a woman's feelings.

That creates a problem. My ex was the kind of person who could turn anything you say into a knife, stab herself with it, and proclaim herself the victim. Half my income was barely enough for her to put up with me. She deserved so much better. LOL.

After our divorce, she lost her son, house, and dog, and she had to go back to work. She lives in a shitty apartment that got flooded and half her clothes were ruined with mold. I just watched the first season of love is blind on Netflix. Time and again, I saw the women saying they deserved better initiating a breakup not getting better.

After our divorce, my ex told me she still loved me but that she would never be in a relationship with me. My jaw dropped. To me, our divorce was like getting a tumor removed. I was almost guilty about how little I thought of her. She was still doing the same "You are not worthy of me" shit when she was clearly lucky to have had me. I wish I would have known that and felt that so much sooner.

So I do not have that mindset with women or hos any longer. You are paid to perform and to please me, and if you do not, I will see someone else. Also, do not give me this bullshit about how if you suck my dick, you are worthy of monogamy and potentially half my income. Just stop it. There is no difference between a women who gives me a massage and one who fucks me or sucks my dick.

The irony is I upped my standards so high that I never thought a woman would meet them. I wanted a woman who fucked me so good the thought of having sex again would be met with a groan and I wanted a woman who looked so good that I would rarely see her equal. But most importantly, she also had to want to make me feel good and not be a drain. Almost every woman I met looks wise went down with time, sexually quit performing, and quit trying to please me and substituted bitching for effort.

My slogan was monogamy had to be earned, and I was fully content that I would be playing the field the rest of my life. That anyone woman would meet my standard was something I never thought would happen. But when you visualize what you really want, the universe has a weird way of giving it to you.

So I fucking hate these posts that are degrading to men and "uplifting" to women. Who gives a fuck what a 19 year old ho thinks about anything?

JjBee62
03-01-22, 15:35
I never read your post, only Shemp's satire and the one or two that gave him the high five. I also felt accuracy was important. Wink. I probably read 30% of the Colombia posts at most. You never crossed my mind when creating that post.

Same goes for the casas as even New Life is now collecting in advance. Though it's easier to get full refunds than at strip clubs if the girl is uncooperative prior to penetration.

That's fascinating, how much you feel you can learn from a quick glance, a handshake and announcement of a name. Can you read used car salesmen as good as you can hookers? That would be a very useful and even marketable skill. The enthusiastic one may be a pitch girl and the aloof one shy who will fuck your brains out. How many times do we hear about girls across various venues talking a good game then changing in the room? Now of course we have plenty of guys who claim to have virtually no bad experiences, but all we have as "proof" are their anecdotes. Many guys like trying to make themselves look good, even over the internet.

It's true that the more attractive ones tend to be worse in the room, but that has nothing to do with their handshake, glance, "Dulce," and turn and departure as she makes room for the girl behind her. Also I've never had one fail to make eye contact that I can remember, which I don't necessarily take as a compliment. Your typical casa girl has her mind on the money she takes home at the end of the day, and has resigned herself to take on all swinging dicks. Their biggest complaint is hung men that fuck them too hard for their taste leaving them sore, and both handsome a disgusting men can pull that off. But based on the above comments I suspect your casa experience is limited.

You talk to me about BS and don't even know that Viagra does nothing to faciliate sexual arousal?? LOL No arousal still no wood. Viagra only facilitates greater blood flow to the penis. But if you are aware of any drugs that assist with arousal when faced with a 60 year old gringa whose face looks like it was dipped in a deep fat fryer, please tell us about them as Viagra does zilch. There's some natural supplements that reportedly help with arousal, but clinical evidence is very limited. May be even more limited or non-existent when faced with someone you are replused by. But the woman can be repulsed and still perform, just open legs and apply lube. That was the point.

There occasionally comes a time to answer a question with a question, are you really going to erect a strawman and knock it down? Well yea, you just did so I answered my own question. LOL.

You'll likely get the last word on this one, as in the end the subject is pretty trivial and I'm wrapping up my Medellin adventure. The locals rest on Sundays so I often do the same. Be safe out on the roads and Long Live Ukraine.Allow me to connect you to the original. The satire was mine. However, I did enjoy Shemp's reply. I am rather amused that you didn't catch that he was responding to another post. After all, the paragraph you edited out made it obvious:



Fantastic & hilarious & oh so true post! Occasionally for laughs I tell a chica that I need "una buena actriz" to take care of me. They of course say no acting needed but we know the truth! Yeah, these girls who usually have sex with hot 19 yr old Colombianos are now banging an unhot 60 yr old gringo. It ain't ez!Now a link to mine:


While it is possible to sell pussy with no skills, hell there are trannies out there selling pussy without having a pussy to sell, there are a lot of skills nobody ever considers.As for arousal, I'll repeat, consult your local men's health clinic. I'm sure there's one advertising on the radio. There are other options, which will do the job and they can even be tailored such that the erection lasts however long you want, regardless of ejaculation. If you agree they will try a sample on you, in the clinic and the male doctor will check your erection and time it so they can adjust the dosage for however long you want to remain erect. No stimulus of any type required.

A local clinic was offering a $99 exam including testosterone level check a few years ago. They offered all the different pills, plus the other options. Interesting stuff. However, the whole experience reminded me of a time-share presentation minus the free luggage. I'll stick with my pills.

It is fascinating how much you can learn, from any type of interaction. I'm somewhat surprised you didn't realize. Sometimes it only takes a few words, sometimes a glance. Examples abound:

Did you see a post recently that said "trust me?" It's funny you mentioned used car salesmen, because the "trust me" line is a car salesman cliche. It indicates that trusting the person is not warranted.

Not long ago I received a text from an unknown number that read "How are you, my friend?" I immediately knew they weren't my friend.

Several years ago someone hacked my aunt's Facebook and sent me a message. I rarely talk to her and at that time it had been years. Figuring out the messages weren't from my aunt took a fraction of a second.

A girl glances at you in a bar, just a glance, nothing more. Can you tell whether or not she finds you attractive? I can. A guy on the street looks your way, and you get no impression of what he's thinking?

I analyze. I've been doing it my whole life. I analyze situations thousands of times daily and predict the actions of others. It's how I stay safe out there. If you're coming up in the lane next to me, I know you're going to change lanes in front of me when you're still behind me, long before that turn signal blinks.

Once you've seen the same situation hundreds of times, how can you avoid using your accumulated knowledge to predict the outcome? There are cues all around, just waiting for you to pick up on them.

It is a marketable skill and I profit from my use of it. Your belief or disbelief doesn't change that.

JustTK
03-01-22, 20:12
Thing is this attitude is a Democratic douche mindset... My ex was the kind of person who could turn anything you say into a knife, stab herself...
My slogan was monogamy had to be earned, and I was fully content that I would be playing the field the rest of my life.I hear you. But I don't think its a left or right thing. I just think its modern culture. Many western people think the world owes them a living, not just women but men too. Sounds like you took your time to figure it out: I opted out permanently from a "normal life" by my mid 20's, decided I was not going to look for anything permanent in my life. Never been married.

I like the idea of a girl needing to earn monomgamy. I need to tell that to my girl. She's a sexy thing but we don't click in bed. Ses way too conservative, but great in most other ways, hence the reason I visit Centro.

Your ex wife. Sounds like she would make a perfect partner for jpaedo, the King Sophist.

Osteoknot
03-02-22, 06:31
Can anyone here explain how this makes any sense at all?

In case you missed the context, he's discussing how working girls can handle being with guys who they find unattractive.

Anyone here can put that to the test, without even testing it.

Take a moment to think about a woman, in particular, a woman who you are not in any way attracted to. A long time ago my friends and I played a game called how many beers. It's somewhat heartless, but easy to play. Pick a woman and decide how many beers you would need to drink before you would fuck her. For this test pick somewhere between a 10 beer girl and death from alcohol poisoning.

Here's the difficult part. Imagine you're naked in bed with her. Now imagine, while in bed with the disgusting woman, that you are closing your eyes and pretending she's the most beautiful woman you've ever seen.

How successful do you think you would be at pretending she's some beauty queen?If you had to choose (gun to your head) would you fuck Bella Abzug two hours before she died, or Christie Brinkley in her prime, two hours after she died?

Jjajajjajajajajjajaaaaaajajajjajaja.

Anyone complaining about the Stupid Shit on Stupid Shit has to be a Stupid Shit. Next.

Elvis 2008
03-02-22, 20:14
I hear you. But I don't think its a left or right thing. I just think its modern culture. Many western people think the world owes them a living, not just women but men too. Sounds like you took your time to figure it outYeah, every time, I have gone traditional it has been a disaster. Every time I turned from it; it worked out.

There is a reason women vote Democrat more often than men, and it is because they are promised money by the pols. Sure, some men are like that too but not as many. There was a great line from a man in the manosphere, "People do not want freedom. They want free shit."


I like the idea of a girl needing to earn monomgamy. I need to tell that to my girl. She's a sexy thing but we don't click in bed. Ses way too conservative, but great in most other ways, hence the reason I visit Centro.Most women do not change. Time and again, when I reunited with a sugar baby, I learned that. I did that 4 or 5 times, and it was always a mistake.


Your ex wife. Sounds like she would make a perfect partner for jpaedo, the King Sophist.LOL. My ex still looks good, and she is very nice in the beginning. Jpaedo would be strutting around that I was too stupid to not make it work, and he was so much better than me.

Then she gets you. A restaurant gets her order wrong, and she has to take it out on someone. So he says like he has before, "You look nice today, honey" and that does it. She would respond "Are you saying I looked like shit yesterday? What a thing to say? My God, you are such an asshole. " You try to soothe her, and she says "asshole, asshole, asshole". Then you try to run away and she follows you out the restaurant and into the car saying the same. That is my ex.

I am not sure even Jpaedo deserves that. This is so my ex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg

JjBee62
03-03-22, 00:19
If you had to choose (gun to your head) would you fuck Bella Abzug two hours before she died, or Christie Brinkley in her prime, two hours after she died?

Jjajajjajajajajjajaaaaaajajajjajaja.

Anyone complaining about the Stupid Shit on Stupid Shit has to be a Stupid Shit. Next.Do I get to close my eyes? Apparently, just by closing your eyes, reality shifts to align with your imagination. Blink and poof! Bella changes to Christie, although I'd probably blink again and change Christie to Elle MacPherson in her prime.

It's basically "you can put lipstick on a pig", without the lipstick.

Villainy
03-03-22, 02:13
Do I get to close my eyes? Apparently, just by closing your eyes, reality shifts to align with your imagination. Blink and poof! Bella changes to Christie, although I'd probably blink again and change Christie to Elle MacPherson in her prime.

It's basically "you can put lipstick on a pig", without the lipstick.Hats off to you if you chose Bella (jajajajaja).

Osteoknot
03-05-22, 08:34
I hear you . . . I like the idea of a girl needing to earn monomgamy.I hear you and I squelch you. There is no room for love in that statement. Sad.

JustTK
03-05-22, 18:49
I hear you and I squelch you. There is no room for love in that statement. Sad.I think it dpeends where you are in life. If you have a GF and she doesn't give you what you need, why not find that elsewhere?

Osteoknot
03-05-22, 20:54
I think it dpeends where you are in life. If you have a GF and she doesn't give you what you need, why not find that elsewhere?
I like the idea of a girl needing to earn monogamy"Earning" and "Love" are mutually exclusive concepts. Whether or not you are in the dream relationship of your life or your partner is torturing you to death, true love is unconditional and accepting, and is not meant to be earned.

I should beg off this thread, Catgirl just dumped me and I am not in a clear enough state of mind to be discussing relationships, other than I just did. Ostee Out. Keep On Keepin' On.

Huacho
03-05-22, 21:00
she says "asshole, asshole, asshole".Man, that's almost as bad as saying "douche douche douche" all the time.

JjBee62
03-05-22, 21:01
I think it dpeends where you are in life. If you have a GF and she doesn't give you what you need, why not find that elsewhere?If you have a girlfriend and she doesn't give you what you need, tell her you're moving on and find a girlfriend who gives you what you need. At the very least, find a girlfriend who accepts your need to go after other girls.

Better yet, find a girlfriend who also needs what you need, to have sex with other women. It saves money, and it gets your girlfriend doing half the work to find other women.

Elvis 2008
03-06-22, 06:20
Man, that's almost as bad as saying "douche douche douche" all the time.In your case, I am sure it would have been both douche and asshole.

MarquisdeSade1
03-06-22, 08:18
https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/cdc-covid-flu-walensky/2022/03/05/id/1059780/

MarquisdeSade1
03-06-22, 08:24
https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/04/covid-vaccine-bombshells-you-probably-didnt-hear-about/

I've been jabbed 6 x so far.

2 x in 2020.

2 x in 2021.

2 x in 2022, including #6 today.

JustTK
03-06-22, 14:05
"Earning" and "Love" are mutually exclusive concepts....true love is unconditional and accepting, and is not meant to be earned.
.I never mentioned love, and "earn is the word that elvis used and that I chose to discuss.

True love. Would be interested to hear more on that, since its your own definition and I don't understand it.

Osteoknot
03-06-22, 19:26
I never mentioned love, and "earn is the word that elvis used and that I chose to discuss.

True love. Would be interested to hear more on that, since its your own definition and I don't understand it.I assumed that people would prefer to be in love with their significant other than not, and that mutual love with another person is a beneficial state. Silly me.

Love is a complex subject about which someone who knows more about it than I could certainly write a book. Love is a powerful invisible force. Right there next to nuclear energy, jeje.

I am not saying that love is a requirement or necessary in a person's life and I have heard many people say that don't ever want to fall in love, usually as a result of bad experiences, but not always. So called emotional "damaged goods. " A significant other can be a very nice place for your love. Better than loving Tussi.

There are many different kinds of love. You can love money, music, material objects, people, relatives, pets, a lifestyle, religious icons, movies, works of art, so and so on. For example, Christians believe in some sort of "Agape" or highest form of love that is held for their God. I don't believe love is solely a matter of degree although there are certainly degrees of love, including for people. Would you lay down and die for everyone you loved, if you loved anyone?

Almost invariably, if a person feels he or she is in True Love, they will tell you they are happier and better off for it. Lack of self-reported love in a person's social support system is a predictor or risk factor for depression. "It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all."

Love can cause murder or so called "crimes of passion."

Love is the only force that defies the law of entropy in physics. Love is a form of energy, some would day "positive" energy. Without love, then there truly would be no hope for humanity. That last point is certainly debatable. But not me, here and now.

That's my love, off the top of my head.

MarquisdeSade1
03-07-22, 00:39
In your case, I am sure it would have been both douche and asshole.How would "normalization" of relations affect mongering in Colombia.

If all the putas go back home?

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/venezuela-maduro-putin-talks/2022/03/06/id/1059850/

JustTK
03-07-22, 00:46
I've been jabbed 6 x so far.
2 x in 2020. 2 x in 2021. 2 x in 2022, including #6 today.Haha, you cannot be serious! We wil not know for a while bcos Big Pharma and Govt is scared to release the stats, but I heard rumours that taking a lot of shots can lower your own immune system.

I must say, I got a confession to make! Yeah, I listened to all you lot and thought about what you were saying. I thought, why punish myself and make my own life difficult by just being obstinate? Not havng one can make my life difficult in Colombia, and also mean that I canonot leave the country to renew my visa. On top of that, yeah I heard you. I realised I was being selfish, that I should play my part and share my money with the girls. If I didn't get one, I would not be able to do that.

So I did the altruistic thing, I went against my own morals, I took oe for the team. Yeah I got one. I got a VAX! . Card. In fact, I got 2, just in case. So now I have the first and the second one. So now I have the double shot of vax cards. I dunno why I was being so stubborn. Now I see the light, how stupid I was. Thanks for all the sound advise and patience fellas.

JustTK
03-07-22, 00:56
There are many different kinds of love. You can love money, music, material objects, people, relatives, pets, a lifestyle, religious icons, movies, works of art, so and so on. For example, Christians believe in some sort of "Agape" or highest form of love that is held for their God. I don't believe love is solely a matter of degree although there are certainly degrees of love, including for people. Would you lay down and die for everyone you loved, if you loved anyone?
Almost invariably, if a person feels he or she is in True Love, they will tell you they are happier and better off for it. Lack of self-reported love in a person's social support system is a predictor or risk factor for depression. "It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all.".I was most curious about what you meant by "true love is unconditional and accepting". What does unconditional mean. That someone could do absolutley anything yet you would still love them? I doubt that exists. I wouldn't call that true love, I woudl call it blind stupidity. Hehe.

And "Accepting" - no idea what that word means in this context.

BTW: do you know that Colombians claim to have more words to describe different types of love than in English? I wasn't convinced when I heard that. As you say, I think there are different levels and types of positive feelings, some would call something love, others not. Colombians and Enslish speakers just hang different labels on things, that's all.

How is the heart holding up Osteo? Does it need stitches?

MarquisdeSade1
03-07-22, 01:58
Haha, you cannot be serious! We wil not know for a while bcos Big Pharma and Govt is scared to release the stats, but I heard rumours that taking a lot of shots can lower your own immune system.

I must say, I got a confession to make! Yeah, I listened to all you lot and thought about what you were saying. I thought, why punish myself and make my own life difficult by just being obstinate? Not havng one can make my life difficult in Colombia, and also mean that I canonot leave the country to renew my visa. On top of that, yeah I heard you. I realised I was being selfish, that I should play my part and share my money with the girls. If I didn't get one, I would not be able to do that.

So I did the altruistic thing, I went against my own morals, I took oe for the team. Yeah I got one. I got a VAX! . Card. In fact, I got 2, just in case. So now I have the first and the second one. So now I have the double shot of vax cards. I dunno why I was being so stubborn. Now I see the light, how stupid I was. Thanks for all the sound advise and patience fellas.So how many COP did you pay for the card? LMAO.

Osteoknot
03-07-22, 03:58
I was most curious about what you meant by "true love is unconditional and accepting". What does unconditional mean. That someone could do absolutley anything yet you would still love them? I doubt that exists. I wouldn't call that true love, I woudl call it blind stupidity. Hehe.

And "Accepting" - no idea what that word means in this context.

BTW: do you know that Colombians claim to have more words to describe different types of love than in English? I wasn't convinced when I heard that. As you say, I think there are different levels and types of positive feelings, some would call something love, others not. Colombians and Enslish speakers just hang different labels on things, that's all.

How is the heart holding up Osteo? Does it need stitches?I am not certain of what love means. I don't know. Unconditional love falls more under the category of Agape, but I am not religious. Yet, I do believe in unconditional love. I think the first tenant of unconditional love is putting someone else before yourself. I am not saying I do that, but that is the type of love I was writing about.

Accepting is right next to unconditional. That means we are all imperfect and flawed, but when you love someone, you overlook or accept those flaws.

As far as words go, supposedly Colombia has more words for what I call "pussy" or vagina than any other culture in the world. At least 35 different words, don't ask me to list them. Is that Love and is that one of the reasons we are all here?

The heart is fine. Catgirl says we are still in a relationship. At the moment, our relationship simply does not involve seeing each other in person, jajajaja. But I can still feel the love.

You may certainly have the last word on the Love topic if you wish. Anything I would write after this would have to fall under the category of bullshit, but we are in Stupid Shit, so maybe it continues.

How about a bunch of gratuitous recent unconditional love fotos?

Paulie97
03-07-22, 05:36
I assumed that people would prefer to be in love with their significant other than not, and that mutual love with another person is a beneficial state. Silly me.

Love is a complex subject about which someone who knows more about it than I could certainly write a book. Love is a powerful invisible force. Right there next to nuclear energy, jeje.

I am not saying that love is a requirement or necessary in a person's life and I have heard many people say that don't ever want to fall in love, usually as a result of bad experiences, but not always. So called emotional "damaged goods. " A significant other can be a very nice place for your love. Better than loving Tussi.

There are many different kinds of love. You can love money, music, material objects, people, relatives, pets, a lifestyle, religious icons, movies, works of art, so and so on. For example, Christians believe in some sort of "Agape" or highest form of love that is held for their God. I don't believe love is solely a matter of degree although there are certainly degrees of love, including for people. Would you lay down and die for everyone you loved, if you loved anyone?

Almost invariably, if a person feels he or she is in True Love, they will tell you they are happier and better off for it. Lack of self-reported love in a person's social support system is a predictor or risk factor for depression. "It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all..Sadly the above is a lot of horse shit, but all fittiing to the sign on the marquis, "stupid shit," most notably the claim that "love can cause murder. " Such reasoning betrays someone as deranged or just saturated drugs, the latter being the most likely cause in this case. But rule number one, never take advice about "love" from a monger forum. That's the last place you'd want to look.

JustTK
03-07-22, 14:44
So how many COP did you pay for the card? LMAO.I paid 200. I think it was money well spent. You gave your money to a bunch of crooked theives, whereas I gave mine to someone that is trying to assist people in difficult times.

MarquisdeSade1
03-07-22, 16:07
I paid 200. I think it was money well spent. You gave your money to a bunch of crooked theives, whereas I gave mine to someone that is trying to assist people in difficult times.Well I was initially in a drug trial in early 2020 to help save the world from the CCP and they paid me a few measly thousand (s) dollars to save humanity from the vile diseases of Asia.

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/short-reads/article/3114327/china-has-been-plagued-and-shaped-epidemics-it

And all the other jabs were "free" and most even gave $100 gift cards LOL.

So I helped save the planet from the CCP and you paid 200 mil for a little piece of paper, OK? LOL.

JustTK
03-07-22, 19:32
Well I was initially in a drug trial in early 2020 to help save the world from the CCP and they paid me a few measly thousand (s) dollars to save humanity from the vile diseases of Asia.
And all the other jabs were "free" and most even gave $100 gift cards LOL.
So I helped save the planet from the CCP and you paid 200 mil for a little piece of paper, OK? LOL.Its good that they paid you a token getsure to ruin your auto-immune system.

200 mil. I guess I can think of it as a donation to the poor, rather than throwing money at the rich.

PedroMorales
03-07-22, 20:38
Well I was initially in a drug trial in early 2020 to help save the world from the CCP .Did it save you from the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) ? Sorry if not keeping up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party

MarquisdeSade1
03-07-22, 20:48
Its good that they paid you a token getsure to ruin your auto-immune system.

200 mil. I guess I can think of it as a donation to the poor, rather than throwing money at the rich.Again I didn't throw a penny at them other than my tax dollars LOL but nonetheless I appreciate your sentiment LOL.

Even if I don't agree paying some drug dealer in Prado $50 usd for a little piece of paper is helping the poor LOL.

JustTK
03-08-22, 00:23
Again I didn't throw a penny at them other than my tax dollars LOL but nonetheless I appreciate your sentiment LOL.

Even if I don't agree paying some drug dealer in Prado $50 usd for a little piece of paper is helping the poor LOL.I didn't say that you paid them, I said that they paid you.

And I didn't pay a drug dealer, I paid a lowly-paid nurse.

MarquisdeSade1
03-08-22, 01:00
I didn't say that you paid them, I said that they paid you.

And I didn't pay a drug dealer, I paid a lowly-paid nurse.So some female drug dealer or drug dealers GF told you she was a nurse to make.

You think that made her little piece of paper more legit, what if it doesn't even resemble the real thing LOL.

Your 3rd world country may or may not notice but Colombia might LMAO.

JustTK
03-08-22, 03:12
So some female drug dealer or drug dealers GF told you she was a nurse to make.

You think that made her little piece of paper more legit, what if it doesn't even resemble the real thing LOL.
.She had on a nurses uniform and was working in a medico. I dunno what more convincing you would need.

Elvis 2008
03-08-22, 13:45
But rule number one, never take advice about "love" from a monger forum. That's the last place you'd want to look.I respectfully disagree. Mongers have figured out a much cheaper and better way to get sex than "love" and marriage and are better equipped to know what is going on with another man. We can get see the lust v. Love angle much clearer than others.

In the manosphere, what Ostee is doing is called spinning plates. I had a similar setup in the USA where I rotated three women. Sometimes the intimacy and passion could be construed as love. It is much easier for an outsider to see that and reign you in when that is going on. Hence, I always have someone outside the relationship I trust to give me objective feedback.

In Ostee's case, a woman did to him what he did to them: cut him off. She took her toy (pussy) home, and he is equating the loss of the toy with "love."

How do I know? It is simple. If he loved her, he would have a top 1 and not a top 10, and he would not be posting nude pics of her.

And it takes a guy to have been spinning plates to know that. Yeah, he will come back with some bullshit about how I do not understand what he had was different than what I did, but it is not.

I hated using the word prostitution to describe what I had with my sugar babies as it was at a much higher level of intimacy than a street walker, but it met the definition, and I suspect Ostee would fight that he has a bunch of hos as well. But that is what he has whether he wants to admit it or not.

Mr Enternational
03-09-22, 00:25
How do I know? It is simple. If he loved her, he would have a top 1 and not a top 10, and he would not be posting nude pics of her.Sounds like you are saying that if you love someone or something then you should keep them hidden. Maybe he loves her so much that he wants to show her off, just like a guy that bought a new Ferrari. On a slippery slope seems you would also assert that people that are swingers do not love each other.

I think it is up to each individual for them to define or experience what love is for themselves. Just like saying something is delicious. People have different ideas of what delicious is.

I also do not get the idea of the top 1. Does that also mean that if you love your first kid you should not have anymore and if you do then you do not love the first one?

ChuchoLoco
03-09-22, 00:58
She had on a nurses uniform and was working in a medico. I dunno what more convincing you would need.My first BJ in Costa Rica many years ago was in a local place called VIPS. It was a real dive. So bad I just stood up. The gal was the only good looking one in a herd of big girls and she wasn't big either. She had on a white nurse vinyl mini dress uniform with patent leather red high platform, shoes. It was 15 years ago but the image is still fresh in my mind. I think it was $12. Anyway, those of you who know San Jose, it was a block down from what was the Carlton and now the Taomarina. No offense to anyone,. The mentioning of a nurse uniform in this forum had to remind me.

MarquisdeSade1
03-09-22, 01:40
Sounds like you are saying that if you love someone or something then you should keep them hidden. Maybe he loves her so much that he wants to show her off, just like a guy that bought a new Ferrari. On a slippery slope seems you would also assert that people that are swingers do not love each other.

I think it is up to each individual for them to define or experience what love is for themselves. Just like saying something is delicious. People have different ideas of what delicious is.

I also do not get the idea of the top 1. Does that also mean that if you love your first kid you should not have anymore and if you do then you do not love the first one?Do these "rules of Elvis" say if I love my #1, I cannot fuck any other vaginas? Ever? If so, why the fuck not?

Paulie97
03-09-22, 02:47
Elvira, Mr E, Pedro, JustTK (a Twat), The Marquis de Twat, what greater credentials could you expect in an internet discussion? All should be more than impressed. Wink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKatCAQed0

Huacho
03-09-22, 04:52
My first BJ in Costa Rica many years ago was in a local place called VIPS. It was a real dive.I remember that place. I used to live in the same block as Little Havana and I went in VIPs several times and never fucked anybody. It was cheap to drink there too.

Elvis 2008
03-09-22, 08:10
I think it is up to each individual for them to define or experience what love is for themselves. Just like saying something is delicious. People have different ideas of what delicious is.That is a monger definition of love, and you are mistaking it for lust / good sex. Love is between two people, and you do not get to define what it is.

I have thought I was in love many times but really it has been rare. What I have seen is that there were many times I just wanted to be and talked myself into it. When you are in that stage of talking yourself into love, it is the easiest thing for other people to see. Just the other day, I saw and heard a guy in that state and I could tell he was not in love but wanted to be just by his tone of voice. I had one woman tell me she could tell a woman was in love with me just by her smile; she said that the girl was smiling "a real smile". That had not crossed my mind.

I have been in that wanting to be in love state enough that I rely on others to confirm it for me. Hell, another woman can smell it out in no time.

So you can love your #1 out of 10 (or 20) women all you want, but the odds are overwhelming you are deluding yourself if you think she loves you back.

PedroMorales
03-09-22, 09:12
My first BJ in Costa Rica many years ago .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TynPqDlQ-F0&ab_channel=Stockwahl

Can't resist this Sopranos clip with Paulie, who is 100 times more intelligent than our own Paulie troll.

Elvis 2008
03-09-22, 15:25
Do these "rules of Elvis" say if I love my #1, I cannot fuck any other vaginas?You can love and fuck all you want. Hell, you can love your whole top 10. Of course, if you have a top 10, don't you think she might too? And she loves all those guys too. And while she may be your #1, she has you at #6. If she blows you off, and you see her out on the town with another guy and she seems happier with him than with you, love will get you through that. Then if you find out, she DFKs that guy and not you and does BBFS with him and not you, love will get you through that too. Hell, you love your #1 so much that you are willing to just wait her out and only see her when guys #1 through 5 are not busy. And then you wake up.

I know how I dealt with this. I made appointments and loved our time together and sex together and the image the woman put forth when we were together, but I knew I was fucking a ho and did not want to go deeper. Eventually, reality would bubble its way up and even the best sugar relationships would then end. Still, we were very, very intimate.

I did not ask about love or if the women were seeing other men because I did not want to hear the answer. Thing is if you are fucking around and a woman knows it, and the woman tells you that she loves you and is not seeing other men, she is lying certainly with regards to the former and probably the latter.

You are not going to get the best out of a woman unless you are exclusive to her. If you do not care about that and only are interested in the sexual part, that is fine with me. Just do not tell me that is love.

There is no rule MDS. If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else.

JustTK
03-09-22, 18:09
My first BJ in Costa Rica many years ago was in a local place called VIPS. She had on a white nurse vinyl mini dress uniform with patent leather red high platform, shoes. .Then we have smthg in common. We both appreciate a girl in uniform.

ChuchoLoco
03-09-22, 18:17
Then we have smthg in common. We both appreciate a girl in uniform.Most likely we have 2 or more things in common.

A girl in uniform and getting a BJ from her and from most girls.

Mr Enternational
03-09-22, 20:02
That is a monger definition of love, and you are mistaking it for lust / good sex. Love is between two people, and you do not get to define what it is.I did not attempt to define what it is. I said it is a personal thing, the same as something being delicious. But how or why do you get to define what it is not?

Huacho
03-09-22, 20:06
If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else.What a stupid thing to say on a hooker board.

MarquisdeSade1
03-09-22, 20:23
There is no rule MDS. If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else.I completely disagree.

Villainy
03-09-22, 22:21
I did not attempt to define what it is. I said it is a personal thing, the same as something being delicious. But how or why do you get to define what it is not?Because Elvis said it. So if you don't agree with him then you must be a Democratic Douche.

LuvMexicanas
03-10-22, 01:08
There is no rule MDS. If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else.There are no bounds to your hypocrisy and utter bullshit. You say there is no rule and then in your very next sentence makeup a rule that if you love someone that you should not want to fuck anyone else.

JustTK
03-10-22, 02:56
Most likely we have 2 or more things in common.
Well, lets not get too friendly. Hehe.

MarquisdeSade1
03-10-22, 07:29
There are no bounds to your hypocrisy and utter bullshit. You say there is no rule and then in your very next sentence makeup a rule that if you love someone that you should not want to fuck anyone else.But take it easy on E, in the 1970's whilst I was in school in Chicago when I was growing up, there was a term, "pussy whipped.'

Has he been afflicted? I'm not sure I can diagnosis him online, at least not yet? We will just have to keep an eye on his posts for.

Anymore nonsensical feminism tainted bullshit, of which this forum certainly doesn't need any more of!!

Elvis 2008
03-10-22, 07:29
I did not attempt to define what it is. I said it is a personal thing, the same as something being delicious. But how or why do you get to define what it is not?Delicious is one person's opinion. It can be agreed upon but it is one person's opinion. Love is between two people. I am telling you love from a female POV but let's turn it around.

You have a date with a woman, and she blows you off and goes off and fucks some other guy and spends the money you gave her on him. You were waiting to have sex with her, and she is investing her time and money in someone else. She then sees you, apologizes, and says, "But I still love you." Are you going to be stupid enough to believe her? Even if you stay with her, does it change things? Are you going to go all in on her like you were or hold back some?

And then you confide in your friends and family. What are they going to say? Stick with her? No, they are going to tell you that you are a moron for putting up with her. If you tell them, it is humiliating, and you look like a fucking idiot but not talking about it may eat you up inside.

So you can say you love a woman all you want and define it how you want. If you believe that you can be in love with one woman and fuck other ones, have at it. Just do not feed me this bullshit the woman you claim to love is loving you back.

MarquisdeSade1
03-10-22, 19:42
Delicious is one person's opinion. It can be agreed upon but it is one person's opinion. Love is between two people. I am telling you love from a female POV but let's turn it around.

You have a date with a woman, and she blows you off and goes off and fucks some other guy and spends the money you gave her on him. You were waiting to have sex with her, and she is investing her time and money in someone else. She then sees you, apologizes, and says, "But I still love you." Are you going to be stupid enough to believe her? Even if you stay with her, does it change things? Are you going to go all in on her like you were or hold back some?

And then you confide in your friends and family. What are they going to say? Stick with her? No, they are going to tell you that you are a moron for putting up with her. If you tell them, it is humiliating, and you look like a fucking idiot but not talking about it may eat you up inside.

So you can say you love a woman all you want and define it how you want. If you believe that you can be in love with one woman and fuck other ones, have at it. Just do not feed me this bullshit the woman you claim to love is loving you back.Just do not feed me this bullshit the woman you claim to love is loving you back.

What about Marianismo? There are plenty of females that are like that around the world.

And who cares if they love you back unless one is love starved? LOL.

Lastly what if you travel a lot for work? How can she know what you're doing say 3000 miles away?

JustTK
03-10-22, 20:10
Check out this old dear's attitude to sex work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IITZh5tYjY

I bet she gives a mean BJ when she takes her teeth out.

Mr Enternational
03-10-22, 20:46
Delicious is one person's opinion. It can be agreed upon but it is one person's opinion. Love is between two people. I am telling you love from a female POV but let's turn it around.But how is you talking about love from a female point of view valid, while Osteo talking about love from his own point of view not valid? I can not decide what is or is not delicious for you and you can not decide what is or is not love for Osteo.

Elvis 2008
03-10-22, 22:24
But how is you talking about love from a female point of view validI did it from the male POV if you have a woman who blows you off, takes your money, and fucks another guy while leaving you horny. Are you still going to love that woman or love her as much? Don't you think you would feel stupid for sticking with a girl and telling her you love her who is fucking around on you?

This is not that hard. This is not about feminism but respect in relationships. This idea you can spend your time and money fucking other women (or vice versa) and your main squeeze will love you just as much is pure bullshit.


You can not decide what is or is not love for Osteo.The worst judge of a man claiming to be in love is THAT man. So yeah I do get to judge that and be more accurate than Osteo because I am out of the relationship. I know EXACTLY what this is like because I have been in love with the idea of being in love so many times, and it was obvious to everyone else when it was not to me.

A lot of my male friends met my sugar babies when I was married. Do you think any of those guys could say, "You know Elvis really loves his wife" without cracking up? The only person thinking that was me, and I was wrong to think that, and that is what is going on with so many guys here. Hell, my ex even told me she loved me.

When I kissed my ex fiance in Peru, the cabbie said I had a pretty GF, and she was 30 years younger than me. In Mexico, I was with one of my Mexican sugar babies and an American on the street, stopped me and asked me how much a "girl like her" would cost him. People can pick out in 2 seconds if a relationship is real or not.

Elvis 2008
03-10-22, 22:48
What a stupid thing to say on a hooker board.




Has he been afflicted? I'm not sure I can diagnosis him online, at least not yet? We will just have to keep an eye on his posts for.

Anymore nonsensical feminism tainted bullshit, of which this forum certainly doesn't need any more of!!"If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else" is a gender neutral statement.

Do you think if a woman fucks around on you, you are going to feel the same way about her? Do you think if she fucks around on you, you might not be tempted to do likewise?

The fact that you cannot see how this goes both ways show how clueless you all are.

And yeah, where else are you going to talk about the reality and illusion of relationships versus hoing? A church group?

And Huacho seeing as how your prime market is street walkers, you can excuse yourself from the discussion. Grownups are talking here.

BlackThought
03-11-22, 01:11
There are no bounds to your hypocrisy and utter bullshit. You say there is no rule and then in your very next sentence makeup a rule that if you love someone that you should not want to fuck anyone else.LOL I have no clue why he's so active on the monger forum spewing relationship / love advice. We are here to fuck them, not love them.

Villainy
03-11-22, 01:15
Yo Marquis, here is one of those butch Colombian policewomen you wouldn't touch.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfScgVx/?k=1

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfS3c1v/?k=1

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfABR8p/?k=1

MarquisdeSade1
03-11-22, 02:04
"If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else" is a gender neutral statement.

Do you think if a woman fucks around on you, you are going to feel the same way about her? Do you think if she fucks around on you, you might not be tempted to do likewise?

The fact that you cannot see how this goes both ways show how clueless you all are.

And yeah, where else are you going to talk about the reality and illusion of relationships versus hoing? A church group?

And Huacho seeing as how your prime market is street walkers, you can excuse yourself from the discussion. Grownups are talking here."If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else" is a gender neutral statement.

This is a concept women use to control an manipulate men (its feminist bullshit and you know it).

No different than when I would be with a GF and she sees a beautiful 20 something chica with a guy in his 60's or 70's.

And she gets angry and says how "gross" he is for going with such a "young girl".

Yet I would hear them with their friends whooping it up, when they would see an older actress with a much younger guy.

We as men are biologically programmed to reproduce as much as possible to propagate the species.

There's only 1 way I know how to do that personally.

And yes that makes condoms an affront to nature as is abortion.

MarquisdeSade1
03-11-22, 04:19
Yo Marquis, here is one of those butch Colombian policewomen you wouldn't touch.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfScgVx/?k=1

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfS3c1v/?k=1

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfABR8p/?k=1I'm not into unfeminine lesbians with penis envy, if I wanted to fuck that.

I would join your MDE lunch club.

So no you couldn't pay me to fuck that.

I really love latinas except the unfeminine ones, when i clicked on the link I got angry

I used to box a lot many years ago, my impulse is to wanna punch her in her face lol

can I knock out her teeth and break her nose in one hit? lol

I'm sure you dream about being her bottom *****, so who is the bottom when you're at home? You or JJ.

JustTK
03-11-22, 05:03
After all this talk of love.

I thought some of you might enjoy this presentation about how women present themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSOJZFEjGLE

She makes some great points. But I doubt she has experiencesd working outside Veracruz.

Mr Enternational
03-11-22, 14:44
The worst judge of a man claiming to be in love is THAT man. So yeah I do get to judge that and be more accurate than Osteo because I am out of the relationship.Why did you get the apartment and motorbike for your girlfriend in Colombia? You are wasting your money and time because you are definitely not in love with her. Clearly I am more accurate about this than you because I am out of the relationship.

LuvMexicanas
03-11-22, 16:08
LOL I have no clue why he's so active on the monger forum spewing relationship / love advice. We are here to fuck them, not love them.It is puzzling for sure. Pontificating on what love is and the virtues of it on a monger forum is like giving a become a vegan presentation at a hunter's convention.

JustTK
03-11-22, 20:01
It is puzzling for sure. Pontificating on what love is and the virtues of it on a monger forum is like giving a become a vegan presentation at a hunter's convention.Been there, seen it, bought the T-shirt.

PedroMorales
03-11-22, 20:24
A tombstone.

Many pretend mongers here married hookers. Don't knock it. Most of you, being American riff raff, will not have read Georges Simenon, the great Belgian author of the Maigret series. Here is part of his Wiki entry: During this period (1919-22), Simenon's familiarity with nightlife, prostitutes, drunkenness and carousing increased. The people he rubbed elbows with included anarchists, bohemian artists and even two future murderers, the latter appearing in his novel Les Trois crimes de mes amis. He also frequented a group of artists known as "La Caque". While not really involved in the group, he did meet his future wife Regine Renchon through it.

Simenon, who should know, said many of the nicest folk he ever met were hookers, to use a vulgar Americanism. Who could not love them? Love conquers all.

MarquisdeSade1
03-12-22, 01:28
A tombstone.

Many pretend mongers here married hookers. Don't knock it. Most of you, being American riff raff, will not have read Georges Simenon, the great Belgian author of the Maigret series. Here is part of his Wiki entry: During this period (1919-22), Simenon's familiarity with nightlife, prostitutes, drunkenness and carousing increased. The people he rubbed elbows with included anarchists, bohemian artists and even two future murderers, the latter appearing in his novel Les Trois crimes de mes amis. He also frequented a group of artists known as "La Caque". While not really involved in the group, he did meet his future wife Regine Renchon through it.

Simenon, who should know, said many of the nicest folk he ever met were hookers, to use a vulgar Americanism. Who could not love them? Love conquers all.How many mongers here can honestly answer my question?

Would you ever date or marry a puta?

I can state unequivocally hell no.

Next.

Elvis 2008
03-12-22, 02:42
Why did you get the apartment and motorbike for your girlfriend in Colombia?For me. I like the climate in Cartagena more than Bogota and wanted the freedom to get around more easily when I am there.


Clearly I am more accurate about this than you because I am out of the relationship.No, you have not seen us together, and I have had other people more knowledgeable about this who have met her and seen us together who disagree with you. And you are trying to win an argument, and they are not.

By the way, I do not like this. I consider myself a smart person, and I do not like rely on others to tell me this. I know it is an area that I cannot trust myself, and I think most guys are worse about this than I am. They cannot handle any bad news about someone they are in love with and makes them feel good. With age and wisdom, I seek it out especially early on.

JustTK
03-12-22, 03:01
Many pretend mongers here married hookers. Don't knock it. Most of you, being American riff raff, will not have read Georges Simenon, the great Belgian author of the Maigret series. .Reading your post reminded me of Michel Houellebecq, a contraversial French author that has fiction books translated in to English. I read Platform. A book about a guy that goes to Thailand on a package holiday and ends up banging loads of Thai girld, much to the disgust of his fellow package travellers. Also Atomised. About a broken marriage and swinger clubs in Paris.

Both are excellent reads.

Elvis 2008
03-12-22, 03:40
LOL I have no clue why he's so active on the monger forum spewing relationship / love advice. We are here to fuck them, not love them.And how is that working for you sex wise? We must be in two different worlds because when I have been in the Medellin casas, Bogota strip clubs, and agencies in Mexico, out of 60 women, I have had five that have been memorable. How many times have you paid for sex and the sex would have been better if you whacked off or used a sex doll? Honestly? About half?

Now that compares to SA where I have had a dozen memorable women, and what has happened since I started talking about SA / seeking? The number of guys using it has exploded. Why? Because the sex in the sugar baby world and the quality of women there are better. That is because it is not just sex for money.

Hell, let's just talk trust. How much better is a sexual encounter with just that? Isn't a woman who is giving all of herself to you going to be better than one who is not because she trusts you?

And don't you want women to be motivated to perform? Is money all that matters with you and performance? How many times on here have we heard morons say "all women are interested in is money"? If you can find out what motivates a woman and tap into that, wouldn't that lead to a better sexual performance? If you listen to the dumb asses here, that does not matter at all.

And when it comes to motivation, isn't love the ultimate motivator? Isn't sex when in love the best kind there is? So you are not interested in the ultimate sex then. What does that say about you?

It tells me you are like MDS, Huacho, and LuvMexicans, you have given up. You are not even trying for the best there is.

When I wrote, "If you really love someone, you should not want to fuck anyone else", did it ever occur to you to look at that from a sexual angle? That the sex is so good, a person should not risk messing it up by seeing someone else?

LuvMexicanas
03-12-22, 06:12
And how is that working for you sex wise? We must be in two different worlds because when I have been in the Medellin casas, Bogota strip clubs, and agencies in Mexico, out of 60 women, I have had five that have been memorable. How many times have you paid for sex and the sex would have been better if you whacked off or used a sex doll? Honestly? About half?

Now that compares to SA where I have had a dozen memorable women, and what has happened since I started talking about SA / seeking? The number of guys using it has exploded. Why? Because the sex in the sugar baby world and the quality of women there are better. That is because it is not just sex for money.

Hell, let's just talk trust. How much better is a sexual encounter with just that? Isn't a woman who is giving all of herself to you going to be better than one who is not because she trusts you?

And don't you want women to be motivated to perform? Is money all that matters with you and performance? How many times on here have we heard morons say "all women are interested in is money"? If you can find out what motivates a woman and tap into that, wouldn't that lead to a better sexual performance? If you listen to the dumb asses here, that does not matter at all.You sound like a monogamy safe sex ad.

MarquisdeSade1
03-12-22, 06:36
And how is that working for you sex wise? We must be in two different worlds because when I have been in the Medellin casas, Bogota strip clubs, and agencies in Mexico, out of 60 women, I have had five that have been memorable. How many times have you paid for sex and the sex would have been better if you whacked off or used a sex doll? Honestly? About half?

Now that compares to SA where I have had a dozen memorable women, and what has happened since I started talking about SA / seeking? The number of guys using it has exploded. Why? Because the sex in the sugar baby world and the quality of women there are better. That is because it is not just sex for money.

Hell, let's just talk trust. How much better is a sexual encounter with just that? Isn't a woman who is giving all of herself to you going to be better than one who is not because she trusts you?

And don't you want women to be motivated to perform? Is money all that matters with you and performance? How many times on here have we heard morons say "all women are interested in is money"? If you can find out what motivates a woman and tap into that, wouldn't that lead to a better sexual performance? If you listen to the dumb asses here, that does not matter at all.

And when it comes to motivation, isn't love the ultimate motivator? Isn't sex when in love the best kind there is? So you are not interested in the ultimate sex then. What does that say about you?I just shit my pants laughing.

Osteoknot
03-12-22, 08:30
Yo Marquis, here is one of those butch Colombian policewomen you wouldn't touch.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfScgVx/?k=1

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfS3c1v/?k=1

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLfABR8p/?k=1Stellar example. Keep On Keepin' On.

Gratuitous photos from earlier in the week.

PedroMorales
03-12-22, 10:52
Reading your post reminded me of Michel Houellebecq, a contraversial French author that has fiction books translated in to English. I read Platform. A book about a guy that goes to Thailand on a package holiday and ends up banging loads of Thai girld, much to the disgust of his fellow package travellers. Also Atomised. About a broken marriage and swinger clubs in Paris.

Both are excellent reads.I might get that book. That would be fun, going on a silver haired tour and marching hookers in in industrial numbers on the walk of shame. It would certainly give the knitting circle something to natter about.

Prostitutes have inspired such great literature, mostly French, Zola's Nana and the great Maupassant. Then there was that English crime writer who wrote the book about a Thai hooker. I tried googling his name but all kinds of shit about guys arrested for killing hookers started popping up. Enchanting and exotic as rolls with hookers in foreign fields are, best to find, fuck and forget. Romance is for novels.

Hate to break ranks but Elvis is letting the side down here.

Mr Enternational
03-12-22, 17:46
, out of 60 women, I have had five that have been memorable. How many times have you paid for sex and the sex would have been better if you whacked off or used a sex doll? Honestly? About half?
Because the sex in the sugar baby world and the quality of women there are better. That is because it is not just sex for money.Yet nobody ever has an answer when I ask what good sex is. I assume that I have had just as much good sex with hookers as I have had bad sex with chicks that are not hookers. Went to a casa 3 days ago and fucked a super GFE chick. 2 days ago I fucked a chick that is not a hooker and she would not even put my dick in her mouth.


Hell, let's just talk trust. How much better is a sexual encounter with just that? Isn't a woman who is giving all of herself to you going to be better than one who is not because she trusts you?What does giving all of herself mean?


And when it comes to motivation, isn't love the ultimate motivator? Isn't sex when in love the best kind there is?Sounds like you have never been to Brazil.


So you are not interested in the ultimate sex then. What does that say about you?If you have not been to Brazil I would say you are not interested in the ultimate sex either. But you can not miss what you never had.


That the sex is so good, a person should not risk messing it up by seeing someone else? Who said it would be messed up by seeing someone else? People have different agreements and understandings. Just because your girl said you could not be with anyone else and you agreed to it, does not mean every relationship or contract or agreement is the same as yours. Why do you keep trying to make it that for a relationship to be real, or loving, or whatever else, then it has to be the same of what your idea of one is?

P. S. Did your girl even ever say that if you fucked someone else it would mess things up? Have you had a conversation about that? Or are these stipulations you have put on yourself just because?

I find that most guys just saddle themselves with shit without even having discussions about it. How many hookers have I talked to that have had guys saddle themselves with buying iPhones and sending money when chicks have not even asked for any of these things? You even see it in these threads, guys asking what should they bring for chicks. Why saddle yourself with something a chick never even asked of you?

It seems that Osteo has it right. He is not hiding anything from his girl nor is he trying to be someone he is not in front of her. That is probably why he loves her so much, because he can be comfortable just being himself. If you have to try to be someone that you are not then you probably have the wrong girl. You are trying to convince Osteo to be someone he is not, while his girl has no problem with who he already is.

PedroMorales
03-12-22, 18:48
2 days ago I fucked a chick that is not a hooker and she would not even put my dick in her mouth..That is the sickest thing I ever heard. Human and not wanting your dick in their mouth (Hope I got their pronouns right).

Fun Luvr
03-12-22, 20:32
You are trying to convince Osteo to be someone he is not, while his girl has no problem with who he already is.Appears his #1 girl does have a problem with who he is.

Mr Enternational
03-12-22, 20:41
Appears his #1 girl does have a problem with who he is.Well maybe it is time to make someone number one that does not have a problem with it. LOL. But if he is in love and only she will do, then he has some decisions to make.

MarquisdeSade1
03-12-22, 20:42
Yet nobody ever has an answer when I ask what good sex is. I assume that I have had just as much good sex with hookers as I have had bad sex with chicks that are not hookers. Went to a casa 3 days ago and fucked a super GFE chick. 2 days ago I fucked a chick that is not a hooker and she would not even put my dick in her mouth.

What does giving all of herself mean?

Sounds like you have never been to Brazil.

If you have not been to Brazil I would say you are not interested in the ultimate sex either. But you can not miss what you never had.

Who said it would be messed up by seeing someone else? People have different agreements and understandings. Just because your girl said you could not be with anyone else and you agreed to it, does not mean every relationship or contract or agreement is the same as yours. Why do you keep trying to make it that for a relationship to be real, or loving, or whatever else, then it has to be the same of what your idea of one is?.I've fucked putas all over the world, I've been married and have had many very hot live-in gfs in my life, and I can say without hesitation the best sex in my life was with putas (by lightyears).

Most putas love sex (and cash) that's why many are putas, great sex for me involves lots and lots of lust, NOT LOVE, find me a very hot puta that really lusts me and and I really lust them.

And look the fuck out!!

Romantic love is a societal con job on men, I love my kids, some of my family and my friends. Romantic love is for simps, cucks et al.

https://stricturism.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-21st-birthday/

MarquisdeSade1
03-12-22, 20:47
And how is that working for you sex wise? We must be in two different worlds because when I have been in the Medellin casas, Bogota strip clubs, and agencies in Mexico, out of 60 women, I have had five that have been memorable. How many times have you paid for sex and the sex would have been better if you whacked off or used a sex doll? Honestly? About half?

Now that compares to SA where I have had a dozen memorable women, and what has happened since I started talking about SA / seeking? The number of guys using it has exploded. Why? Because the sex in the sugar baby world and the quality of women there are better. That is because it is not just sex for money.

Hell, let's just talk trust. How much better is a sexual encounter with just that? Isn't a woman who is giving all of herself to you going to be better than one who is not because she trusts you?

And don't you want women to be motivated to perform? Is money all that matters with you and performance? How many times on here have we heard morons say "all women are interested in is money"? If you can find out what motivates a woman and tap into that, wouldn't that lead to a better sexual performance? If you listen to the dumb asses here, that does not matter at all.https://www.slaafws.org/

You are talking like some pornstars I have met at porn conventions that walk around trying to convert people to Jesus Inc.

I have spoken to a few of them, I must say being an ardent atheist, I find them quite insane LOL.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/01/jesus-loves-porn-stars/69145/

JustTK
03-12-22, 21:35
Then there was that English crime writer who wrote the book about a Thai hooker.

Hate to break ranks but Elvis is letting the side down here.Stephen Leather, Private Dancer?

Houellebecq's writing is on another level to that pop garbage. It's all glorioulsy dark humour and deeply fatalist. Irvine Welsh's name popped in to my mind when I wrote that. Nothing to do with sex, but he was the master of dark humour too. I know Trainspotting was his height of fame, but I just loved the writing style of Marabou Stork Nightmares. Experimental writing that hits the spot.

BlackThought
03-12-22, 21:40
Yet nobody ever has an answer when I ask what good sex is. I assume that I have had just as much good sex with hookers as I have had bad sex with chicks that are not hookers. Went to a casa 3 days ago and fucked a super GFE chick. 2 days ago I fucked a chick that is not a hooker and she would not even put my dick in her mouth.Same here. Great sex has nothing to do with love.

JjBee62
03-12-22, 21:49
I might get that book. That would be fun, going on a silver haired tour and marching hookers in in industrial numbers on the walk of shame. It would certainly give the knitting circle something to natter about.

Prostitutes have inspired such great literature, mostly French, Zola's Nana and the great Maupassant. Then there was that English crime writer who wrote the book about a Thai hooker. I tried googling his name but all kinds of shit about guys arrested for killing hookers started popping up. Enchanting and exotic as rolls with hookers in foreign fields are, best to find, fuck and forget. Romance is for novels.

Hate to break ranks but Elvis is letting the side down here.I read a bunch of reviews for a hotel in the Dominican Republic several years ago. Apparently some big church group was taking up most of the rooms, while a few old mongers were occupying the rest. Nothing but 1 star reviews because of the constant parade of prostitutes in the lobby, in the restaurant and at the pool. Not to mention all of the shouts of "leche papi."

PedroMorales
03-12-22, 23:19
Yes. I could think of the name, in separate words, Private, Dancer but could not locate it. It was a bible of sorts in time gone by. Life moves on and hookers have lost whatever romance they may have had for me. I like their sob sob stories but they are all crushed dolls, too broken to get involved with. I would never (again) invite a hooker to my place lest stuff goes missing or I get my throat cut.

I guess Private Dancer only gelled with mongers and so was not a big seller.

Lots of losers hook up with hookers, who like the Pretty Woman trip until the arguments start over money.

I had two failures tonight with reading so reading is on the long finger. As is much else.


Stephen Leather, Private Dancer?

Houellebecq's writing is on another level to that pop garbage. It's all glorioulsy dark humour and deeply fatalist. Irvine Welsh's name popped in to my mind when I wrote that. Nothing to do with sex, but he was the master of dark humour too. I know Trainspotting was his height of fame, but I just loved the writing style of Marabou Stork Nightmares. Experimental writing that hits the spot.

Elvis 2008
03-13-22, 13:22
Yet nobody ever has an answer when I ask what good sex is.That is why I said memorable sex. It is easier to define.


What does giving all of herself mean?She is open to every kind of sex that there is and no condoms.


Sounds like you have never been to Brazil.

If you have not been to Brazil I would say you are not interested in the ultimate sex either. But you can not miss what you never had. I have been there for two weeks and went to multiple cities. It is the best sex in the P4 P world. A few years later, I did sugar baby sex in the USA and it matched and even exceeded Brazil.


Did your girl even ever say that if you fucked someone else it would mess things up?Yes, and what do you think my reaction would be if she asked, "Is it okay if I fuck someone else?


It seems that Osteo has it right. He is not hiding anything from his girl nor is he trying to be someone he is not in front of her. That is probably why he loves her so much, because he can be comfortable just being himself. If you have to try to be someone that you are not then you probably have the wrong girl. You are trying to convince Osteo to be someone he is not, while his girl has no problem with who he already is.No, your hero is on a bender right now trying to make up for what he lost. You just do not see the pain he is in.

When I have had a number one SB, I know they are getting offers all the time. When a guy of similar status offers a woman exclusivity and a happy future, you cannot compete with that. You seem to be oblivious to women getting those offers.

Women know that a lot of men do not want to commit to one girl. If they are at a certain stage in their life, they can be okay with it especially if they are getting paid, but they will likely move out of the stage.

Men who have been hurt in exclusive relationships will often say they are giving up and will see multiple women. I was 100% that way. I just had people in my life who swore that if I found the right one, I would not want to stray. Just like you guys think with me, I thought they were fucking nuts but the seed of it being possible was planted.

I had people here get mad it me when I said sugar baby sex is better than ho sex. The guys who had sugar babies agreed with me. The guys who did not thought I was nuts.

Now I am saying love sex is at a higher level than sugar baby sex, but you do not get there until you commit. The reason you can stay committed, and I know you do not believe that you can, is because that sex is at a higher level, and you will not want to give it up.

I know I am not going to convince you just like others were not able to convince me. All I can do is plant that seed in your head that maybe it is possible. If this was put to a vote, I would be creamed. But in the long run? The best sex will win out.

Elvis 2008
03-13-22, 14:34
You are talking like some pornstars I have met at porn conventions that walk around trying to convert people to Jesus Inc.

I have spoken to a few of them, I must say being an ardent atheist, I find them quite insane LOL.Why do so many porn stars eventually get married if love sex is not the best there is?


I've fucked putas all over the world, I've been married and have had many very hot live-in gfs in my life, and I can say without hesitation the best sex in my life was with putas.
Romantic love is a societal con job on men, I love my kids, some of my family and my friends. Romantic love is for simps, cucks et al.And you are totally happy with how it is right now? Your friends, family, and kids have all accepted how you are and are okay with you seeing multiple women? You do not hide it from anyone and do not care what anyone else thinks? LOL. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?

Elvis 2008
03-13-22, 18:52
Lots of losers hook up with hookers, who like the Pretty Woman trip until the arguments start over money.Sure, Gere and Roberts would have broken up in a few months had they really ever dated.

I found the "hooker with the heart of gold" character complete bullshit. I have not seen anything like that in real life. I liked Rebecca De Mornay's portrayal of a hooker in Risky Business. That was more realistic. She was who she was, and she sucked every $ out of the situation she could and in the end made up with her pimp.


Life moves on and hookers have lost whatever romance they may have had for me. I like their sob sob stories but they are all crushed dolls, too broken to get involved with. I would never (again) invite a hooker to my place lest stuff goes missing or I get my throat cut.Seeking / SA broke down the wall of shame with regards to women taking money for sex. Some guys here have this idea that there is this huge canyon separating pros and non-pros, and the two will never cross. In reality, the separation is like a white line on a highway where women can and do change lanes with ease. If you blink, you could miss said change, and IMO, it is worse in Latin countries.

I have a female friend that says I could not get her friends with my ways. Unbeknownst to her before she even said that, I had one of her friends set up as a sugar baby.

So yeah, by all means, you can put street walkers and go-go girls in one category, but I would be careful about making blanket statements about hos. The first mainstream mention of the hooker among your neighbors was Desperate Housewives in the 90's, and I have been to the hos with suburban homes.

Paulie97
03-14-22, 21:19
I've told this story before here and I am not sure why it bears repeating but here goes. She put scope in my drink in my hotel room. I instantly tasted the bitterness and spit it back into the glass. I looked at her straight in the eyes and told her to drink it. She smiled and said no. We fucked and I sent her home without further incident. I continued to see her individually, and including three-ways and four-ways, usually with other girls on my List but not always. She made it onto my Top Ten List, where she remains to this day. Fucked her two days ago.This guy's silly stories know no end. No one is this stupid, especially not someone as Osteotwot who claims to be a physician with 100's of doctors and pharmacists under his supervision. He is not who and what he claims to be, and his stories have no credibility.

MarquisdeSade1
03-14-22, 22:18
Why do so many porn stars eventually get married if love sex is not the best there is?

And you are totally happy with how it is right now? Your friends, family, and kids have all accepted how you are and are okay with you seeing multiple women? You do not hide it from anyone and do not care what anyone else thinks? LOL. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?I think you are absolutely completely bonkers, take your damn meds bro, and if you don't have any, get some already LMAO.

This is a website to find pussy not something to fill that void in your "heart" LOL.

And all the best LOL.

PedroMorales
03-15-22, 10:00
Why do so many porn stars eventually get married if love sex is not the best there is?A then elderly friend of mine had been around colourful characters all his life. Getting on, he took a part time job driving a hooker about. She advertised a competitive base price but, once they saw her botox and boobs jobs, mongers would pay more and more for extras. First thing she told him was you are here to drive and no more, none of your shit.

He ended up doing other jobs for her. Take toys to her child who was in care. She had a 2 br apartment and one bed room was stuck with wtf toys.

She knew all the tricks, eg red condoms for period time.

The one day, she had him drive her several hundred km to visit her be f who was ding a long stretch in a medium security prison. Big ugly fucker, shook his hand and checked him out, just wanted to make sure all her did was drive.

I know another guy is on his 4th Thai wife.

If she is broken and you are broken, by all means hook up,. But there ain't nob ody going to put those Himpty Dumptys back together again.

Jay0940
03-15-22, 20:20
The alternative attire for me would be what I would wear hiking in a warm climate. Thin synthetic khakis plus a thin synthetic button down shirt. Sweat dries very easily and provides good coverage from sun. But I look white AF, especially with a wide brimmed hat. Imagine the modern version of what British dudes would wear going on safari. I wore that once when visiting a Korean AAMP in the Bay Area whom I'd known for a long time and she said quite directly "you look like a white guy today."

T-shirts and jeans made from cotton don't deal with sweat well but maybe they blend in and reduce my chances of getting mugged.I saw your first post about the precautions you were taking when visiting Medellin. Now you state that you want to reduce your chances of getting mugged while there. I've got to ask, if you think it's that dangerous in Medellin that chicas will try and slip something into your drink or you will get mugged, why are you even going? Ever hear the saying, if someone thinks they're going to die today, they'll find a way to make it happen?

I'm sure most who have visited or live in Medellin would agree that it's not an abnormally dangerous city. If you visit with the belief you're going to be robbed, (a) you likely will, and (b) you will not enjoy your visit. Just keep your eyes open, don't do something stupid (I. E. , go somewhere you shouldn't) and take any normal precautions you would for your safety and you should be fine. Take cabs or Uber (they're much cheaper than the US) and don't walk around at 2:00 am.

To answer your question, if you're going to a club just about everyone wears jeans and a t-shirt. A few wear polo shirts. If you're dressed for an African safari you'll stick out like a sore thumb.

Paulie97
03-16-22, 01:28
I saw your first post about the precautions you were taking when visiting Medellin. Now you state that you want to reduce your chances of getting mugged while there. I've got to ask, if you think it's that dangerous in Medellin that chicas will try and slip something into your drink or you will get mugged, why are you even going? Ever hear the saying, if someone thinks they're going to die today, they'll find a way to make it happen?.People who are concerned about getting robbed or drugged are typically less likely to have it happen because such will motivate them to do some research and take certain procautions. Those who go around falsely thinking that Medellin is just as safe as any other big city, even though they have much higher violent crime rates than many cities of similar size in the US and Europe, are more likely to let down their guards and get burned. This pseudo religious / esoteric horseshit that what you fear will automatically take place is just that, horseshit, even if you "heard" it somewhere sitting on a barstool.

Why is he going there? Probably because he wants to enjoy some legal prostitution with some hot, friendly Colombian babes at a reasonable prices. He's willing to take some risks and is also willing to take some precautions. You set up dilemmas that don't exist, with no apparent motive aside from acting like an ass online.

P.S. Druggings are pretty common in Medellin, even against locals while they hardly exist in the large US city where I live. Don't leave your drink unattended. If you do mistakenly then it's a throwaway.

Zeos1
03-16-22, 02:15
I saw your first post about the precautions you were taking when visiting Medellin. Now you state that you want to reduce your chances of getting mugged while there. I've got to ask, if you think it's that dangerous in Medellin that chicas will try and slip something into your drink or you will get mugged, why are you even going? Ever hear the saying, if someone thinks they're going to die today, they'll find a way to make it happen?

I'm sure most who have visited or live in Medellin would agree that it's not an abnormally dangerous city. If you visit with the belief you're going to be robbed, (a) you likely will, and (b) you will not enjoy your visit. Just keep your eyes open, don't do something stupid (I. E. , go somewhere you shouldn't) and take any normal precautions you would for your safety and you should be fine. Take cabs or Uber (they're much cheaper than the US) and don't walk around at 2:00 am.

To answer your question, if you're going to a club just about everyone wears jeans and a t-shirt. A few wear polo shirts. If you're dressed for an African safari you'll stick out like a sore thumb.Don't know what you are comparing it to. It is an abnormally dangerous place compared to where I live. Everyone I know that comes from or lives in Medellin has been the victim of some sort of robbery or violent crime. Almost no one I know in my home town has ever been a victim of a similar crime.

Elvis 2008
03-16-22, 04:33
I know another guy is on his 4th Thai wife.

If she is broken and you are broken, by all means hook up,. But there ain't nob ody going to put those Himpty Dumptys back together again.Pedro,

I was not talking about mongers marrying porn stars but porn stars marrying each other. MDS had the notion that preachers showing up at a porn star convention are out of place. Certainly, the loud mouth judging types are but a number of porn stars are married and Christians.

The concept then is that love like a preacher at a porn convention is out of place here. I disagree. Let me change the word to passion then.

Despite looks and technique, you cannot have a great session without passion. In fact, guys comment in reviews about IOP, the illusion of passion.

So when you have sex, I would say that the pecking order and quality of the session goes: no passion, IOP, affection, real passion, and then passionate love. The higher you go up the passion tree though, the harder the fall can be, and that is why you should look for safeguards and the help of others on the climb up. And if you are at passionate love and she is at IOP, then look out below.

Because guys have fallen, they stay on the lowest level, deny real affection let alone passion is possible (they just want us for our money), and engage in the 3 FS (find them, fuck them, forget them). In the P4P USA world, even in sugaring, I never went higher than affection, and I think had I done so, I would have fallen. I never think women ever went beyond the affection stage and I kept things there.

OTOH, in Latin America, it was different. I regret not thinking I could climb higher. There was like one in 5 or one in 10 sessions where scaling up was possible. How high I do not know but what kept me from doing that was the 3 F attitude where I was certain the next lay was better than the last. In reality, if you find a woman great in the sack, you should probably repeat then seek out the new.

So I was in Bolivia and had a great session with a Paraguayan. She was a nympho, and I was spent after two rounds. The woman was molesting me on the cab to the hotel before we even started. Because I had a 3 F attitude then, it never occurred to me it was anything more than P4P. I handed her money, what we agreed on and taxi fare, and she looked sad. In hindsight, I realize now that she did not ask for money or to leave. She was sad because she wanted to stay. And with this girl, everything was on the table, and I just did not see it. I left so much fucking meat on that bone, and it was all me. I am kicking myself for that still.

In hindsight, she was at the real passion level, and I was not there because I did not think it was possible. I was a 3 F man and the next night I went back to the club and had an average and totally forgettable lay.

So yeah, I think if the goal is here having the most and best sex possible, it is worth talking about how you get that. The idea that real passion is not possible is counterproductive to having the best sex.

Huacho
03-16-22, 06:31
So I'm of a pensionable age and I'm having the best sex of my life, as well as the least complicated arrangement. I'm not in love with her and she's not in love with me. I was in love and I know the difference. We do like each other quite a bit. It's been a year.

What I think is, it is random and flukish and fleeting. When I say the best sex, I mean the best sex on average (mean not median) and hardly any clunkers or bad sex sessions. We both have a lot of experience and her attitude is, tell me what kind of sex you want tonight and we'll do it. And she's got an idea of how she wants to do whatever that might be. She has a lot of stamina so there is never any "I'm getting sore" or "My jaw is starting to hurt" or anything like that. She's not a princess. She's not skinny and she's not fat. She's not tall and she's not short. She's not old and she's not young. She's the woman next door as that is literally how we met (actually she was my upstairs neighbor).

Now I could look back at oh say a dozen individual sessions over the years that were better than the best session I've had with this woman, but never this level of consistency. And no drama. We live in LatAm but she is not Latina so that means (at least) two things: 1) no insane, baseless, poisonous jealousy; and 2) she shows up on time .

If I wanted to use sports analogies, she has the positional versatility of Chris Taylor and the consistency of Cal Ripken, Jr. ; takes a pounding better than Chuck Wepner; and can eat weiner better than Joey Chestnut. And I'm more like Tiger Woods than Santa Claus because Santa stops after three Hos.

But those other individual session occurred with such diverse women in such diverse circumstances in such diverse places, that I think you can never know or predict precisely when or how the chemistry and stars will align to produce great sex. You just have to keep hitting it and go with the flow. In the case of paid sex, I have found zero correlation between price and performance. In the case of civilians, I have found zero correlation between looks and performance.

Huacho
03-16-22, 07:02
I'm sure most who have visited or live in Medellin would agree that it's not an abnormally dangerous city. I lived in and recently visited Medellin and I will dissent from that. I have been to all Central and South American Spanish speaking countries and would say that Medellin is more dangerous (including all forms of safety including traffic, STDs, theft, scopolamine, police shakedowns, etc.) than most Latin cities, maybe 80% of the cities of been to (which is most of them). And it's more dangerous than anywhere I have been in Europe which includes over 20 countries.

More dangerous: Colón, Tegucigalpa, Ciudad del Este mmm that's about it. About the same vibe of danger: Guatemala City, David. Of course cities in the Yew Ess like St. Louis, Baltimore, Albuquerque, etc.

I have lived in Argentina, Colombia, Panamá, Costa Rica and Guatemala (in CA and SA) and as a country overall, I believe Colombia to be the most dangerous one, followed by Guatemala, then Argentina, then Costa Rica, then Panamá. Depends on the regime in power, the state of the economy, and so forth.

Where I don't want to go right now in LatAm is México.

PedroMorales
03-16-22, 09:35
Pedro,

I was not talking about mongers marrying porn stars but porn stars marrying each other. MDS had the notion that preachers showing up at a porn star convention are out of place. Certainly, the loud mouth judging types are but a number of porn stars are married and Christians..https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-who-married-sex-doll-24895898

A bodybuilder who married a sex doll last year claims he is now madly in love with an ashtray. And plans to give it an artificial vagina.

Yuri Tolochko says he has moved on since his devastating split from Margo the doll and is building a new life.

LuvMexicanas
03-16-22, 17:31
I lived in and recently visited Medellin and I will dissent from that. I have been to all Central and South American Spanish speaking countries and would say that Medellin is more dangerous (including all forms of safety including traffic, STDs, theft, scopolamine, police shakedowns, etc.) than most Latin cities, maybe 80% of the cities of been to (which is most of them). And it's more dangerous than anywhere I have been in Europe which includes over 20 countries.

More dangerous: Coln, Tegucigalpa, Ciudad del Este mmm that's about it. About the same vibe of danger: Guatemala City, David. Of course cities in the Yew Ess like St. Louis, Baltimore, Albuquerque, etc.

I have lived in Argentina, Colombia, Panam, Costa Rica and Guatemala (in CA and SA) and as a country overall, I believe Colombia to be the most dangerous one, followed by Guatemala, then Argentina, then Costa Rica, then Panam. Depends on the regime in power, the state of the economy, and so forth.

Where I don't want to go right now in LatAm is Mxico.It is a place where things can go bad for you very fast. It's nickname is Albucrackee, albeit it's more about meth these days but the name has stuck.

Thunder 01
03-16-22, 22:01
Don't know what you are comparing it to. It is an abnormally dangerous place compared to where I live. Everyone I know that comes from or lives in Medellin has been the victim of some sort of robbery or violent crime. Almost no one I know in my home town has ever been a victim of a similar crime.Um. No! It is not dangerous at all. Hey must be in the wrong place doing the wrong things. You must be white grinho and disrespecting or something. The most dangerous places in the world are in the USA. I am a lot safer in Mexico, Cuba, El Salvador than there. Maybe because I am Native American and not a gringo. But it is deadly for minorities in the USA. I have been on 6 continents and the only place I have had any crime happen to me was in the USA.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 22:32
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/man-who-married-sex-doll-24895898

A bodybuilder who married a sex doll last year claims he is now madly in love with an ashtray. And plans to give it an artificial vagina.

Yuri Tolochko says he has moved on since his devastating split from Margo the doll and is building a new life.Well played PM.

Elvis 2008
03-17-22, 00:28
But those other individual session occurred with such diverse women in such diverse circumstances in such diverse places, that I think you can never know or predict precisely when or how the chemistry and stars will align to produce great sex. You just have to keep hitting it and go with the flow. In the case of paid sex, I have found zero correlation between price and performance. In the case of civilians, I have found zero correlation between looks and performance.Good post. Yeah, I think price has to do more with looks. I agree there is zero correlation with price and performance.

Elvis 2008
03-17-22, 00:45
Where I don't want to go right now in LatAm is Mxico.I think that is overblown due to the media. I thought Mexico City was not walkable at night, but I was just there, and the streets were flooded, and we walked around with no issues. And I was just in Cancun and Tulum 2 months ago. Despite the widespread media reports, Cancun and Tulum are still packed. I actually wish people would not go there. I loved Cancun when it was empty during the pandemic. The deaths there were collateral damage in the drug war. That is unlike other places I went.

For example, in Rio, when I went 15 years ago, the slums were right near Atlantic Avenue, the street lining Copacabana Beach. It was open season on tourists. 2 of 3 people in our party got mugged, and people bragged about NOT getting mugged.

I was in Caracas, Venezuela shortly after that, and I went to a strip club. The streets were fucking dead at night. Those two places were the only cities where I have ever been where I was constantly looking behind me. Everything and everyone was open season in Caracas.

I do not know why but around the same time I was visiting Juarez Mexico which meant I had been to three of the four most dangerous cities in the world at that time. It was sad to see Americans not going there and the city streets and shops were decaying because of that. Thing is while Juarez was the most deadly city in North America, across the border, El Paso was the 3rd safest. So again, it was a drug war with citizens as collateral damage, and it was dangerous, but I felt a lot better there than in Rio or Caracas.

Paulie97
03-17-22, 01:42
I have been on 6 continents and the only place I have had any crime happen to me was in the USA.Personal anecdotes in a monger forum. That is not evidence when deciding what places are more dangerous than others. Credible crime statistics though can be useful.

Fun Luvr
03-17-22, 01:53
I lived in and recently visited Medellin and I will dissent from that. I have been to all Central and South American Spanish speaking countries and would say that Medellin is more dangerous (including all forms of safety including traffic, STDs, theft, scopolamine, police shakedowns, etc.) than most Latin cities, maybe 80% of the cities of been to (which is most of them). And it's more dangerous than anywhere I have been in Europe which includes over 20 countries. ...Maybe I've been lucky. My first trip to Medellin was in November, 2010, and I've been there 50 times since then. I travel alone most of the time. I've never been robbed, shaken down by the police, given scopolamine, or gotten an STD. A fake policeman tried to shake me down one time, and an "acquaintance" tried it one time. Both times I walked away from them when I realized what was happening. I am old and very white. I have been to Costa Rica and Nicaragua. I feel safer in Medellin than either of those countries.

Thunder 01
03-17-22, 21:41
Personal anecdotes in a monger forum. That is not evidence when deciding what places are more dangerous than others. Credible crime statistics though can be useful.Assuming you don't travel much. Okay. Let's look at statistics. Murders and crimes done on tourists!\! Maybe look at the post below me. Let's look at data Sherlock. More Native American women disappear in the USA than any other nationality in any other country. That is the data. Too bad it sounds like you prescribe to the Trump / Q-Anon data.

Paulie97
03-19-22, 20:05
Assuming you don't travel much.That would be quite the erroneous assumption. I spend three to four months a year in Medellin, and have a number of on the ground and experience related reports here. But since you travel a lot, we look forward to your contributions from Medellin, and something besides the sweeping claim that the US is the most dangerous place of the six continents you've been on. That's not very useful. Lolol.

Thunder 01
03-20-22, 05:49
That would be quite the erroneous assumption. I spend three to four months a year in Medellin, and have a number of on the ground and experience related reports here. But since you travel a lot, we look forward to your contributions from Medellin, and something besides the sweeping claim that the US is the most dangerous place of the six continents you've been on. That's not very useful. Lolol.Good for you! You have visited one place! Yawn. And I have seen no good information from you better than what I have already put on here. I would say that is very useful information when people are fear mongers on here trying to scare people with lies and falsities! They should know that it is ultra safe being here for any reason! And. You don't need any other information from me since you supposed know all there is to know about Medellin. You don't need my help. But I did enjoy 15 ladies during my week in Medellin and Cartagena. Zero issues, except by a group of Americans. Which is always the case. There is a reason why people don't like American tourists. And a reason I try to go where there are very few of them. Anyway, I could give you information on where all I met them, but you are know it all, so you already know!

Huacho
03-20-22, 14:36
Good for you! You have visited one place! Yawn. And I have seen no good information from you better than what I have already put on here. Well, I just checked out your posting history and you are a useless twat.

Paulie97
03-20-22, 17:17
Good for you! You have visited one place! Yawn. And I have seen no good information from you better than what I have already put on here. I would say that is very useful information when people are fear mongers on here trying to scare people with lies and falsities! They should know that it is ultra safe being here for any reason! And. You don't need any other information from me since you supposed know all there is to know about Medellin. You don't need my help. But I did enjoy 15 ladies during my week in Medellin and Cartagena. Zero issues, except by a group of Americans. Which is always the case. There is a reason why people don't like American tourists. And a reason I try to go where there are very few of them. Anyway, I could give you information on where all I met them, but you are know it all, so you already know!Thanks for the additional anecdotes peppered with exclamation marks, all essentially worthless. As was your discussions of safety in the US, as such has nothing to do with safety or the lack thereof Medellin. These are two different countries in case you failed to notice. It also appears from your post history that you are very new to the Medellin scene. I'm going to address Medellin safety in a separate post and the readers can decide what are the "falscities (sic) and lies." It's also worth noting that a number of members on this thread experienced with Medellin share my point of view, as the points are hardly debatable, among Colombians and tourists alike. It's simply common knowledge.

Paulie97
03-20-22, 17:34
Drugging's are probably the biggest concern in Medellin. Below is some statistical data. There's also been a number of recent related deaths, and there's plenty of anecdotal reports here in the forum. Watch your drinks and don't accept any liquids from strangers. If you accidentally leave your drink unattended toss it. Be on top of your game. Don't get drunk. The latest death BTW was of an American but of Nicaraguan origins. Yes Colombians not only drug tourists but one another as well. This is all simply common knowledge on the ground. Ask any Colombian.

https://thebogotapost.com/scopolamine-myths-and-realities/31604/

Also watch out for two men on a motorcycle, a common MO. The one on the back will display a firearm. Obviously cooperation is the best response if confronted.

All that said, with some precautions and a little luck, chances are your Medellin trip will go well. Be safe out there and enjoy.

P.S. As to crime rates around the world, neither the US or Colombia are in the top ten. Out of 137 countries measured Colombia comes in at 31, and the US at 56. Of course crime rates can vary a lot from city to city, and this is especially true in the states. Some of the travelers from Europe will be coming from countries with much lower crime rates than either of the above.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country

Paulie97
03-20-22, 17:35
Well, I just checked out your posting history and you are a useless twat.Nice summary. Sometimes keeping it short and sweet is the way to go.

Thunder 01
03-21-22, 02:38
Well, I just checked out your posting history and you are a useless twat.Little man syndrome. You can call names. But you live in fear of safe places all over the world. Idiot!! Maybe check some reviews around. Go back and play with your mommy in the sandbox.

Thunder 01
03-21-22, 02:52
Drugging's are probably the biggest concern in Medellin. Below is some statistical data. There's also been a number of recent related deaths, and there's plenty of anecdotal reports here in the forum. Watch your drinks and don't accept any liquids from strangers. If you accidentally leave your drink unattended toss it. Be on top of your game. Don't get drunk. The latest death BTW was of an American but of Nicaraguan origins. Yes Colombians not only drug tourists but one another as well. This is all simply common knowledge on the ground. Ask any Colombian.

https://thebogotapost.com/scopolamine-myths-and-realities/31604/

Also watch out for two men on a motorcycle, a common MO. The one on the back will display a firearm. Obviously cooperation is the best response if confronted.

All that said, with some precautions and a little luck, chances are your Medellin trip will go well. Be safe out there and enjoy.

P.S. As to crime rates around the world, neither the US or Colombia are in the top ten. Out of 137 countries measured Colombia comes in at 31, and the US at 56.Once again. Never had any problem in Medellin. I don't post on this site much but if you look at other sites, I post a lot. I have been coming to Colombia a lot. It along with Cuba (which has the lowest crime rate in the world BTW) along with Colombia and Mexico have been weekend trips for prob the last 15 years. I have also spent time in the Brazilian favelas, by myself at all times of night and in San Salvador multiple times at all times of night by myself with zero issues at all!! Oh ya. Have been to Yemen and Syria too, maybe you have heard of them? And no not in a military aspect. Again, never any problems. However, I can give you a lot of issues that I have had in the USA, primarily based on race. As you even said that drugging happens when people are dumbasses. As long as you aren't a dumbass it is much safer there than in the USA. Both San Salvador and the favelas are considerably more dangerous, in data, than Colombia or anywhere else we have mentioned. And don't even mention Syria and Yemen. Go walk around at night in Gary (Indiana), East St. Louis, West Memphis, Oak Cliff (Dallas), etc. All four of those places are more dangerous than Colombia. Maybe you should know someone's background before you start trying to bash them. Go to those four other international places and those areas In the USA at night walking around and then you can come back and try to tell me how dangerous Colombia is.

Thunder 01
03-21-22, 03:09
Now that I think about it. Maybe it is a little more dangerous there in Medellin than at McDonalds in Beverly Hills. My bad.

MarquisdeSade1
03-31-22, 04:50
Now that I think about it. Maybe it is a little more dangerous there in Medellin than at McDonalds in Beverly Hills. My bad.I think stats show that Latin America is clearly thee most dangerous region of the world hands down (not in an active military conflict) 24/7 365!

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/woman-who-grew-up-in-warrenville-killed-in-shooting-in-mexico/

Most of Central America esp Mexico, Caracas, Brasil et al.

I can link several dozen decap videos if it is allowed, if you want.

Just sayin.

Huacho
03-31-22, 11:22
I think stats show that Latin America is clearly thee most dangerous region of the world hands down (not in an active military conflict) 24/7 365!

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/video/woman-who-grew-up-in-warrenville-killed-in-shooting-in-mexico/

Most of Central America esp Mexico, Caracas, Brasil et al.

I can link several dozen decap videos if it is allowed, if you want.

Just sayin.Why don't you actually go there and find out, you pathetic little jerk off?

MarquisdeSade1
03-31-22, 19:05
Why don't you actually go there and find out, you pathetic little jerk off?You morbidly jerk.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-the-world

JustTK
04-01-22, 05:05
https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-the-worldOfbourse the crime level depends on the type of crime. Tourists are far more likely to suffer from theft than anything else.

MarquisdeSade1
04-01-22, 05:47
Ofbourse the crime level depends on the type of crime. Tourists are far more likely to suffer from theft than anything else.I'm guessing everyone is more likely to suffer from theft than anything else, except when they are not.

MarquisdeSade1
04-01-22, 06:25
Maybe I've been lucky. My first trip to Medellin was in November, 2010, and I've been there 50 times since then. I travel alone most of the time. I've never been robbed, shaken down by the police, given scopolamine, or gotten an STD. A fake policeman tried to shake me down one time, and an "acquaintance" tried it one time. Both times I walked away from them when I realized what was happening. I am old and very white. I have been to Costa Rica and Nicaragua. I feel safer in Medellin than either of those countries.https://babylonbee.com/news/bill-clinton-tests-positive-for-covid-syphilis-gonorrhea-hepatitis-hiv-and-herpes-click-for-more

Villainy
04-01-22, 17:44
Why don't you actually go there and find out, you pathetic little jerk off?Little Marquis hasn't travelled anywhere. He is a high-school student in search of attention. Notice how his reasoning skills are undeveloped.

The 10 most dangerous cities are in Latin America. Medellin is in Latin America. Therefore it is a dangerous city.

The truth is little Marquis, that Medellin is safer than Chicago. The city you claim as your home. Not to mention it has a much better climate, better coffee and far FAR more attractive women.

ChuchoLoco
04-01-22, 18:35
https://babylonbee.com/news/bill-clinton-tests-positive-for-covid-syphilis-gonorrhea-hepatitis-hiv-and-herpes-click-for-moreThey forgot to add that JFK and his son, Elvis and Jim Morrison are all still alive and aliens are walking the streets of Chicago disguised as humans.

MarquisdeSade1
04-01-22, 23:55
Little Marquis hasn't travelled anywhere. He is a high-school student in search of attention. Notice how his reasoning skills are undeveloped.

The 10 most dangerous cities are in Latin America. Medellin is in Latin America. Therefore it is a dangerous city.

The truth is little Marquis, that Medellin is safer than Chicago. The city you claim as your home. Not to mention it has a much better climate, better coffee and far FAR more attractive women.Well I disagree.

I've lived in Chicago almost 55 yrs and I will walk down any street at 2 am any day of the week.

I dare you try that in MDE LOL.

As far as better climate I would take Chicagos over MDE anyday (I live for the 4 seasons), I don't like the heat of MDE "city of eternal spring"? Spring where? Phoenix?

Its more like August 365 to me, I much prefer Bogotas climate I find it heavenly, breezy and 60's partly cloudy not overly cloudy not overly sunny as opposed to MDE or PHX.

I much prefer temperate climates ala Portland Bogota San Francisco.

I like to think the more civilized peoples of the world avoid climates like MDE look at the demographics of crime in climates more like MDE.

Criminals like warmer weather, the more civilized peoples move towards the colder locales hoping the criminals won't follow.

And more beautiful women LOL maybe if you like buffalo in high heels tight jeans and lots of ink and shitty attitudes LMAO.

My ideal body type and feminine puta is in BKK thin, low BMI, no ink, no babies, no masculine drama LMAO.

Just sayin.

Gabacho
04-02-22, 02:14
Mexico City is way better, not even close, but it is much more expensive. Tijuana is not expensive, some of these guys complain about everything and do not realize how good they have it. Tijuana prices are fair. Great weather, food, service beautiful women, and very easy to get too.The street walkers on circunvalacion are fucking ugly and dirty and you going to be paying twice a much as you would pay in botero. Also the city itself is dirtier you will see lots of litter and trash all around la merced and homeless people burning trash piles at night to stay warm. They do have really good tacos tho. And the tepache de pina is bomb AF but medellin is 1000 x better for mongering and vennies and paisas are way better looking and have way better attitudes than the mexicanas you will find in La merced.

Also most mexican girls don't shave either.. Their hygiene is lacking and they have vertical C-section scars too

Huacho
04-02-22, 05:03
I was born in Chicago and it doesn't have a better climate than anywhere I've been except the UP. October ain't too bad.

MongerHunger
04-02-22, 05:30
Also most mexican girls don't shave either.. Their hygiene is lacking and they have vertical C-section scars tooDon't let Captain Solo hear you talking about Mexican women. LOL. He feels some kind of way about Colombian women and puts them below Mexicanas.

Member #2001
04-02-22, 08:57
I was born in Chicago and it doesn't have a better climate than anywhere I've been except the UP. October ain't too bad.Dude, come on. When you have to call dibs on your parking space, you know your in the wrong city. When the shit freezes over night and you have to go to work in the morning and trying to get the ice off.

And there is the summer, otherwise know as highway redustruction season. I left that rat race two years ago, whehre the climate is always beutiful, girls a pleanty and so much more.

For me Chicago suckes. 15 dollars a pack of cigs really?

Sorry for all the mistakes, just high on coke, so cheap down here. Its really becoming a problem.

Keep your cold weather and I will stick to my sunny days in the mid 70's.

Member #2001
04-02-22, 09:01
Well I disagree.

I've lived in Chicago almost 55 yrs and I will walk down any street at 2 am any day of the week.

I dare you try that in MDE LOL.

As far as better climate I would take Chicagos over MDE anyday (I live for the 4 seasons), I don't like the heat of MDE "city of eternal spring"? Spring where? Phoenix?

Its more like August 365 to me, I much prefer Bogotas climate I find it heavenly, breezy and 60's partly cloudy not overly cloudy not overly sunny as opposed to MDE or PHX.

I much prefer temperate climates ala Portland Bogota San Francisco.

I like to think the more civilized peoples of the world avoid climates like MDE look at the demographics of crime in climates more like MDE.

Criminals like warmer weather, the more civilized peoples move towards the colder locales hoping the criminals won't follow.

And more beautiful women LOL maybe if you like buffalo in high heels tight jeans and lots of ink and shitty attitudes LMAO.

My ideal body type and feminine puta is in BKK thin, low BMI, no ink, no babies, no masculine drama LMAO.

Just sayin.I'm in MDE right now. I am in el centro. Groud zero. I walk by my self at all hours of the night. Yea I should carry pepper spray because its a big skechy. The only time I got robbed when I was to high and drunk. Did not want to make a sceen for a crappy telephone. HOw ever its out there if you look it. When you live here its a life style. Definetly not for everyone.

Member #2001
04-02-22, 09:50
As someione that came from Mexico, GDL, mexican girls suck compared to girls here. I had one the other night and she literaly did everything with out even asking. There are bueties here 18,19 20 years old. I can't do that in other countries. Colombia all the way. Not only in mde but other cities. MEX forget about just hate the upsale. There are some really hot girls here. ID take MDE over anywhere in mexico. There are guys that get 4 or 5 girls a day, I can't do that anymore, but its nice to know its available.

Besides its a beutifull country.

Elvis 2008
04-02-22, 14:07
I tried monogamy, 3 wives, 3 divorces, along with several long term monogamous (supposedly) relationships. The only relationship which made me content was when we were swingers, but that girlfriend created too much stress.

After trying to find a replacement with all the advantages and none of the stress, I realized the source of the stress. Me. It was all the baggage I grew up with, telling me I needed 1 woman, blah, blah, blah.I am not judging anyone here and there is no right or wrong answer. I too was miserable under the societal constraints of monogamy and much happier seeing multiple women too.

But I want to go back to what Mr. E's woman IMO was asking: I want to know how much I should care about you and I am going to care a helluva lost less if you are off seeing other women.

That language still scares me, and the reason is that when a woman can con a guy into monogamy it comes with the ability to judge a man and bash him even if he looks at another woman. Hell, we got courts saying if a woman lies about birth control and gets pregnant, she can collect for 18 years.

So we have women saying "we deserve better". Isn't that also saying men deserve worse? We have women saying men "should" do X and y, and we have men saying women "r".

Isn't one of the reason we see WGs is because we are in control of the money and women have to perform and with a wife or mother of our child, they can behave however they want?

It is almost like men here are saying, "Okay, maybe we cannot commit and are lecherous assholes, but at least we are happy assholes. " But why say that? Why not demand more from women like they do from us?

If you say I will never commit to one woman, then you are saying we men are the problem. If you say I have not found a woman who is worthy of my monogamy, you are putting the burden on women to perform, and isn't the problem that they are not? Isn't the reason there are WGs is the WGs are performing and the wives are not?

So JJBee when you say women are X, and there is no way you could be monogamous, IMO you are falling into the "women are" trap. What would a woman have to be for you to be monogamous?

The thing about monogamy is that it usually refers to sexual. So in your case if sexual monogamy was a game changer, could you have a woman who would say "I do not care if you want to fuck 18 year olds as long as you are emotionally attached to only me and financially support me"? The idea is that no woman will put up with that. But again that is what women are versus what they "should" be. The question I am asking is not pushing monogamy but asking what it would take from a woman for you to be monogamous and happy. A 10 in looks? Fuck you 4 X a day? Be open to 3 somes? Earn money and help you out with the bills? What is it?

One other reason men see WGs is WGs are almost like the only people in the world who give a shit if men are happy because they get paid to make men happy even if just for a fleeting moment.

The reason guys cringe when it comes to commitment is that it usually means an end to their happiness. In my case, it has led to things getting better, and I am asking myself why I have not been demanding this all the time. Part of it is her, but I am sure part of it is that I have no legal entity, no judge in the sky, telling me I have to do anything.

On top of that, if you see multiple women, women hold back emotionally. They will themselves to not care about you too much. The men can say, "Well as long as I am getting good and properly fucked, I do not care. " What I would say is that you are missing out on the respect of others because people can see in seconds if a woman is there with you for money or love, and there is emotional fulfillment in a woman giving herself totally to you. My woman would rather be with me than anyone else and vice versa.

So I get Mr. E's comments. He ran from commitment because commitment usually spells doom and pain for men. If "commitment" just entails a woman continuing to fuck us, then we may as well not do it and continue to see WGs. If commitment meant women were more open sexually and performed better not just with sex but with everything, wouldn't we be running towards it and not be so afraid of it?

Surfer500
04-02-22, 14:46
Ambien, tusi, liquor, weed, viagra, I hope the upcoming reports end in ways that will surprise me.That's quite a combination, I think the poster forgot to mention Coke as well.

I just can't imagine partaking in a combination like that to party by, but seems quite popular with the younger whipper snappers.

And I guess in this instance, the "night cap" is the Ambien to put you down after a long night.

Huacho
04-02-22, 15:03
Dude, come on. When you have to call dibs on your parking space, you know your in the wrong city. When the shit freezes over night and you have to go to work in the morning and trying to get the ice off.

And there is the summer, otherwise know as highway redustruction season. I left that rat race two years ago, whehre the climate is always beutiful, girls a pleanty and so much more.

For me Chicago suckes. 15 dollars a pack of cigs really?

Sorry for all the mistakes, just high on coke, so cheap down here. Its really becoming a problem.

Keep your cold weather and I will stick to my sunny days in the mid 70's.I don't think you understood what I wrote. Drugs will do that to you.

Gabacho
04-02-22, 15:42
As someione that came from Mexico, GDL, mexican girls suck compared to girls here. I had one the other night and she literaly did everything with out even asking. There are bueties here 18,19 20 years old. I can't do that in other countries. Colombia all the way. Not only in mde but other cities. MEX forget about just hate the upsale. There are some really hot girls here. ID take MDE over anywhere in mexico. There are guys that get 4 or 5 girls a day, I can't do that anymore, but its nice to know its available.

Besides its a beutifull country.I too lived in Mexico for like the last 7 years and I can confirm all this. Colombia has way better girls, better prices, friendlier people, in Mexico the girls always try to up sale, always have bad attitudes and a cold personality compared to the girls in Colombia. The ones in Mexico are oftentimes forced to work and have padrotes in Colombia it seems more by choice and purely economic.

Mexico example: "quieres que me quite la ropa? Son cien pesos mas, quieres sexo oral, son cien pesos mas, blah blah blah"

Colombia example: "hola cariño te daré todo lo que quieras en treinta mil mas la pieza, siempre a la orden"

Lefeu
04-02-22, 16:16
Don't let Captain Solo hear you talking about Mexican women. LOL. He feels some kind of way about Colombian women and puts them below Mexicanas.Isn't that the truth about our dear señor Captain Solo? He just loves his Mexican chicks, and would not put up with anybody talking shit about them, especially putting them below Colombian girls.

Gabacho
04-02-22, 16:32
Isn't that the truth about our dear seor Captain Solo? He just loves his Mexican chicks, and would not put up with anybody talking shit about them, especially putting them below Colombian girls.Also mexican girls have higher rates of STDs than vennies and colombianas.

JjBee62
04-02-22, 19:04
The amount of knowledge being disgorged here is simply amazing. For example, the climate in Medellin most closely resembles the climate in Phoenix. It seems strange that a city where the monthly high temperature ranges between 80-83°F and the average monthly low temperature ranges from 63-64°F is considered the same climate as a city where average highs run from 68-106°F and average lows from 44-82°F. In this bizarre comparison, Phoenix gets 9. 2" of rain annually and Medellin gets 116.5", almost no difference at all.

It gets stranger. Phoenix is in the desert, it's mostly sand and rock, you can't grow anything other than cactus without irrigation, while Medellin requires daily landscaping to keep the greenery from strangling the city.

Meanwhile, Chicago with average temperatures in June, July and August, within 3°F of Medellin, but with about 20% higher humidity is supposedly a much better climate, because Medellin is too hot?

I can't wait for the next knowledge dump.

Mr Enternational
04-02-22, 20:25
Isn't one of the reason we see WGs is because we are in control of the money and women have to perform and with a wife or mother of our child, they can behave however they want?Not at all, for me at least. If a person is in a relationship that is not conducive to them then that is their own fault. They need to learn to communicate what they will and won't put up with. And be willing to walk out of the door if the other person is not meeting their needs.


So I get Mr. E's comments. He ran from commitment because commitment usually spells doom and pain for men.I have not run from any commitments. What are you talking about? If we go to a buffet for lunch and you do not eat any pork, I am not going to say you ran from the pork. If anything I am going to think you did not take something from the bar that you did not really want and had no intentions of eating.

For people that want to be in a committed relationship why would it spell doom and gloom if they have done their due diligence and made a wise decision? I do not think it has to be that way. But 1, many people do things for the wrong reason and 2, you can never control what the other person does. You can state preferences that you would like them to follow, but in the end they have their own mind and own will.

Zeos1
04-02-22, 21:05
Also mexican girls have higher rates of STDs than vennies and colombianas.Really. Or more have been diagnosed with STD's.

Elvis 2008
04-02-22, 21:52
I have not run from any commitments. What are you talking about?She wanted to be in monogamous relationship. (That is why she was worried about you seeing other women). You were not willing to commit to that. That is what I meant. I am not knocking you.


Not at all, for me at least. If a person is in a relationship that is not conducive to them then that is their own fault. They need to learn to communicate what they will and won't put up with. And be willing to walk out of the door if the other person is not meeting their needs.
For people that want to be in a committed relationship why would it spell doom and gloom if they have done their due diligence and made a wise decision?You cannot do due diligence on a future event. The concept that you can just walk out if your needs are not met sounds good, and you can do that early on and should if there are not other people attached to the relationship. However, the longer the relationship goes on what I see are men looking at bad (staying in the relationship) and short term worse (getting a divorce).

And if you knock a girl up, your needs go in the fucking trash, and no contraceptive method works 100% of the time.

If the needs of men are being met as often as they should be, then why are guys in relationships even seeing WGs? Are you saying every married guy seeing a WG should get a divorce?

Huacho
04-02-22, 22:10
Also mexican girls have higher rates of STDs than vennies and colombianas.What an absurd assertion. What, you knew two Mexicans who got the clap and only one vennie and one Colombian? Or you're a professional health care researcher with international experience? You conducted an exhaustive three-country survey with an appropriate sample size and finite population correction factor? Or maybe you're a pinche gabacho and you pulled it out of your ass?

LuvMexicanas
04-03-22, 01:09
Not at all, for me at least. If a person is in a relationship that is not conducive to them then that is their own fault. They need to learn to communicate what they will and won't put up with. And be willing to walk out of the door if the other person is not meeting their needs.

I have not run from any commitments. What are you talking about? If we go to a buffet for lunch and you do not eat any pork, I am not going to say you ran from the pork. If anything I am going to think you did not take something from the bar that you did not really want and had no intentions of eating.

For people that want to be in a committed relationship why would it spell doom and gloom if they have done their due diligence and made a wise decision? I do not think it has to be that way. But 1, many people do things for the wrong reason and 2, you can never control what the other person does. You can state preferences that you would like them to follow, but in the end they have their own mind and own will.Why he keeps imposing his viewpoint on all of us is mystifying. Not sure where he finds the time to write so many Gone with the Wind length posts. But one thing that I am sure of is a guy or woman who drones on and on about the greatness of their relationship is usually full of shit. The people I've encountered in great relationships during my life don't constantly talk about it and if you read windbag's posts, you'll see that he ensures he brags about his perfect existence (huge eye roll) with his alleged 10 while telling the rest of us we have it all wrong.

MarquisdeSade1
04-03-22, 02:03
Ofbourse the crime level depends on the type of crime. Tourists are far more likely to suffer from theft than anything else.https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/german-covid-passports/2022/04/02/id/1064041/

Mr Enternational
04-03-22, 03:30
You cannot do due diligence on a future event.Not on an event; on a person and your compatibility with that person.

For instance, I spent the last few days with a chick that insisted several times to eat on the bed although I told her to eat at the table. Left crumbs and trash in the bed from eating. Wasted food on the floor next to the trashcan and did not clean it up. Had old residual toothpaste at the bottom of the bristles of her toothbrush. Showers in less than 3 minutes. Sat on the bed in a swimsuit after being in the ocean all day. After experiencing this type of shit I know I never want to fuck this woman again, much less be in a relationship with her.

JustTK
04-03-22, 04:01
What an absurd assertion. What, you knew two Mexicans who got the clap and only one vennie and one Colombian? Or you're a professional health care researcher with international experience? You conducted an exhaustive three-country surve?Am sure the statistical evidence will arrive shortly, otherwise we can put him in the rubbish along with the rest of you pretenders.

Mr Enternational
04-03-22, 05:56
If the needs of men are being met as often as they should be, then why are guys in relationships even seeing WGs? Are you saying every married guy seeing a WG should get a divorce?I have a perfectly good kitchen in my house. Does that mean I never want to go eat at a restaurant? I have a bar full of liquor in my house. Does that mean I never want to go out and have a drink? I have a perfectly good car in my garage. Does that mean I never want to ride my motorcycle or bicycle?

If I have tried and tried with this house but everything keeps breaking down, it gets termite infested, the slab cracks, it needs electrical work, then yes I am eventually going to get rid of it. But just because I go rent a cabin in the mountains for a couple of days, do not mistake that as my house is not meeting my needs and I want to get rid of it. Just because a guy fucks another chick does not mean his girl is not meeting his needs and he wants to break up with her.

Nounce
04-03-22, 10:57
...monogamous relationship...A question not really related to the post. What is your opinion of the love between Will Smith and his wife? I read they are in some kind of "open" relationship?

Elvis 2008
04-03-22, 13:28
Not on an event; on a person and your compatibility with that person.
That changes too: a woman has a child and is no longer interested in the man. A woman gets fat and the man is no longer interested ETC. I can see you have not been married Mr. E or if you have it was not for long.

Mr Enternational
04-03-22, 16:33
But I want to go back to what Mr. E's woman IMO was asking: I want to know how much I should care about you and I am going to care a helluva lost less if you are off seeing other women.

On top of that, if you see multiple women, women hold back emotionally. They will themselves to not care about you too much. I actually think it is the opposite. Women care more when they know they are in competition with someone else. If they know you are not going anywhere and have no other options then they can be complacent. You have to keep them on their toes. Also the less a man seems to care, the more a woman is attracted. Nice guys finish last.

RamDavidson84
04-03-22, 17:17
A question not really related to the post. What is your opinion of the love between Will Smith and his wife? I read they are in some kind of "open" relationship?Will Smith's movies were fucking awesome back in the day, Bad boys, Independence Day, Men in black, I-Robot, too many to list. He's one of my all time favorite actors, always will be.

Today he and his wife are total Hollywood weirdos. His kid does fashion shows in women's clothing LOL. His wife fucks his son's friend and this is acceptable by Will. Just too much money and the ability to do whatever you want when ever you want with nothing to keep you in check can take a normal dude down a strange path sometimes. I think this is what Happened Will Smith.

All that being said, clearly that slap was staged because the ratings for the Oscars have diminished so much and they are shameless "Jussie Smollet" types who will do anything to stay relevant. It worked too, everyone has been watching that shit and talking about the Oscars. I don't believe for a second all that transpired the way it did and it was not a total set up. In the real world, a proud successful black man gets slapped, people are brawling, I don't a fuck what anyone says, people are fighting after a slap like that. When a dude is so angry he reaches the point he has to assault another man, he doesn't gracefully walk up and slap a man and then calmly walk back to his seat and sit down. If you are angry enough to slap a man at the Oscars, a full on fight is going down. And how do the police allow that to happen and Will Smith isn't even issued a citation, hmmmmmm? Seems strange to me. And WilL Smith's strange little wife could easily wear a wig, but chose to be "strong" and "proud" and just shave her hear, but then her husband, "who allows her to fuck her son's friends" feels so sensitive about it that he has to mega-slap Chris Rock in front of millions, and millions more who will watch later because he made a fucking "G. I. Jane" joke? None of any of this makes any sense, and I have noticed in life that Truth is often stranger than fiction, but my bet would be that shit was a total set up and the Oscars and weirdo Hollywood elites want to stay relevant not just financially with viewership, but also politically with their out-of-touch views they have force on everyone in society.

I miss the old Will Smith who was just about entertaining and making quality content for Americans to enjoy.

Fudi Maar
04-03-22, 18:37
I actually think it is the opposite. Women care more when they know they are in competition with someone else. If they know you are not going anywhere and have no other options then they can be complacent. You have to keep them on their toes. Also the less a man seems to care, the more a woman is attracted. Nice guys finish last.This. 100% agree. And not just with WG's, but with civvies too. In my last serious relationship, I treated my woman as a queen, and she ended up treating me like shit, knowing that I would always be there for her, whenever she felt like it. In the end, I terminated the relationship, and she was shell-shocked, begging me, but it was too late.

A woman is more attracted to a man when she can see him chatting / flirting-with other attractive women, or when other women want to be with him. It's called Pre-Selection.

When a guy has lots of options, it makes the man high-value, and raises his status in her eyes. It actually gives the woman that adrenalin / drama-rush that they so crave.

MarquisdeSade1
04-03-22, 19:04
I actually think it is the opposite. Women care more when they know they are in competition with someone else. If they know you are not going anywhere and have no other options then they can be complacent. You have to keep them on their toes. Also the less a man seems to care, the more a woman is attracted. Nice guys finish last.Touche'.

Many women won't appreciate a man not matter how "loyal" he is.

If she thinks hes only loyal because she's as good as it gets for him.

A comedian said once, I think Bill Maher, men are only as loyal as their options, Amen brother.

Fun Luvr
04-03-22, 19:19
Why he keeps imposing his viewpoint on all of us is mystifying. Not sure where he finds the time to write so many Gone with the Wind length posts.I think he and JjBee62 are in competition to see who can write the longest irrelevant posts. Kind of like Kamala Harris talking.

MarquisdeSade1
04-03-22, 19:24
I think he and JjBee62 are in competition to see who can write the longest irrelevant posts. Kind of like Kamala Harris talking.Maybe try having some compassion for the mentally ill, mental midgets.

Gabacho
04-03-22, 19:35
Am sure the statistical evidence will arrive shortly, otherwise we can put him in the rubbish along with the rest of you pretenders.I didn't base my statement on any statistical or scientific data, simply my own experience. I have gotten gonorrhea 3 times in Mexico but not once in Colombia. And I have barebacked with quite a few SWers in both countries, even candy girls in Medellin haven't given me stds (that I am aware of) versus several times in Tijuana and DF. Plus the girls in Colombia seem to have better hygiene (clean shave, don't stink, use intimate shampoo and clotrimazole) compared to those I have come across in Mexico. I'm simply contributing my own personal experience, what you make of it is up to you. If you feel the need to call me a "pretender" or whatever else then that is on you, I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else on ISG.

JjBee62
04-03-22, 20:35
I think he and JjBee62 are in competition to see who can write the longest irrelevant posts. Kind of like Kamala Harris talking.Apparently the posts aren't irrelevant. After all, for some reason you can't resist talking about me, even when I'm not involved in the conversation. I haven't experienced such dedication since my last dog died.

Nounce
04-03-22, 21:57
Will Smith's movies were fucking awesome back in the day, ...Thanks for the reply but I am only interested in the love angle.

RamDavidson84
04-03-22, 22:08
Thanks for the reply but I am only interested in the love angle.LOL, and I am only interested in using your post to point out how strange and desperate Hollywood has become. What's your point in telling the forum "your only interested in the love angle" in response to my post haha?

All that shit goes down and you just want to know how much they still love each other? Hmmm my guess would be since for years there have been rumors that they have an open relationship and his wife fucks his son's friend, there is not very much of a "traditional" love left between the two. 3.5 billion men on Earth, and she has got to rock the cock of her son's friend and then make sure the world knows it, that is some cold blooded shit LOL.

Mr Enternational
04-04-22, 00:10
That changes too: a woman has a child and is no longer interested in the man. A woman gets fat and the man is no longer interested ETC.You are fighting against your own position here by giving more reasons why one should not be monogamous or get married!

Elvis 2008
04-04-22, 01:31
You are fighting against your own position here by giving more reasons why one should not be monogamous or get married!No, I was pushing back against the due diligence angle and how you cannot do it. I suspect you have not been married Mr. E because over its course there are so many twists and turns that no one can anticipate.

There is no right or wrong on this topic, so I do not have a position; it is whatever makes you happiest. If it is monogamy or seeing multiple women, it is whatever works. I just do not think guys are honest about talking about what makes them happy.


Just because a guy fucks another chick does not mean his girl is not meeting his needs and he wants to break up with her.You are forgetting about the part where he said he would forego all other women. So every guy who promises to be faithful to a woman is a liar? Maybe you are right, but that again is a cynical attitude towards men.

I actually looked up why married men cheat, and there was novelty and fetishes and the like but this is the one that hit home the most with me: https://shesaid.com/truth-married-men-visit-prostitutes/.

There's something pretty awesome about feeling wanted. When husbands approach their wives for sex, they want them; there's no conditions around it and it's all about the sex. Wives, on the other hand, can place conditions around sex. This is supported by the statistics that men who do more housework get more sex.

Think about how you would feel if your husband had sex with you to get his dinner cooked, clothes washed, house cleaned. Get the picture? What a turn off! Unfortunately, that's exactly what's happening in some marriages. Men don't feel wanted. They know sex will cost them in the long run; so they choose to pay for it up front.

In a recent TV interview, a married man who regularly visited a prostitute stated that the emotional connection actually makes the sex better. This is backed up by what another men have been brave enough to admit. It's not just the sexual release because they can get that for free. It's the emotional connection that maybe lacking in their marriage that they are craving and paying for.

End of quote. Having to do more housework to get laid in a marriage? LOL. Isn't that another form of prostitution? And there is not even any guarantee if you do the housework you will get laid.

I do not think married guys really go for an emotional connection. I just think they want someone who makes them happy even for a little bit because their wives / SOs clearly do not.

My big issue with the current situation is the assumption that women are paying their fare share. I get the above situation if that were the case, but I see so few examples in my life where women actually make a significant contribution financially in marriages. What I see is women stepping up and taking half the credit for shit they not only were not responsible for but the husbands / SOs often accomplished in spite of them.

Elvis 2008
04-04-22, 02:20
I actually think it is the opposite. Women care more when they know they are in competition with someone else. If they know you are not going anywhere and have no other options then they can be complacent. You have to keep them on their toes. Also the less a man seems to care, the more a woman is attracted. Nice guys finish last.I think the question is care about what? Maybe a woman will compete harder for you to be their guy sexually and appearance wise. But in your own words, you go for average women, and I did not. The women I shot for have tons of men as suitors to them. I can see why you would say what you do, but I do not think it applied to me.

What I was talking about was at the intimacy level. If you are not committed to a woman, you are going to lose out on the intimacy level.

If say you and a woman are at a movie theater, and you run into the girl's friends and they know you are seeing five different women, they are going to look at your girl with pity. If you are committed to her, then these same friends will be happy for her and may look at her with envy.

I was the first guy my gal introduced to her daughter. The daughter disowned her father because of his abusive behaviors. I joked around with her, played games with her, and we have gotten along. I think she saw that I wanted a comfortable place for us. Anyway, we go to dinner with my gal's brother and his SO. The brother and daughter are talking and the daughter taps me on the shoulder and says to her uncle, "Este es mi padre", and I thought that was really nice.

Given the choices most guys have, no sex, a family but with a wife as pseudohooker and guys being accused of being shallow but in control and at least not miserable seeing multiple women, the last choice IMO is much more appealing.

The reason we go abroad is the American system is expensive or broken and we are looking for better. I am just suggesting that there may be another way. Maybe it explodes in my face, and I get burned, but for all the spunk you are showing Mr. E, look at the negatives you have mentioned: a sporadic sex life, the emotional discussion with women and having them go through your phone, the lack of intimacy, and seeking out and often getting less than satisfying women. You keep saying not of it bothers you and maybe it does not, but I am not having to deal with any of that nonsense.

Elvis 2008
04-04-22, 02:36
A question not really related to the post. What is your opinion of the love between Will Smith and his wife? I read they are in some kind of "open" relationship?That one was not really in love with the other and from what I have read it seems like it was her.

I had a girl I was seeing before the current one, and she was great. She checked a lot of the boxes, but I would not commit to her. It caused tensions although she said it did not. There was like this distant voice in the back of my head saying something was wrong. A distant cousin of mine asked me about her, and she was like, "You idiot, if there are any questions, she is not the one." When you find a good one, you are not going to risk an open relationship. I did that with one I was not sure of.

Anyway, Jada Pinkett was the one who wanted the open marriage, and apparently she was fucking Chris Rock at one time. So CR makes a joke about JP, and Will Smith initially laughs about it. Then WS sees JP is upset and says in his own way "I will show you I am worthy of being your one and only" and punches CR. One of the guys in the manosphere called it a beta move, and IMO he is right.

MarquisdeSade1
04-04-22, 03:28
You are fighting against your own position here by giving more reasons why one should not be monogamous or get married!A directed verdict is in order!

Paulie97
04-04-22, 03:58
If you feel the need to call me a "pretender" or whatever else then that is on you, I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else on ISG.You have to overlook JustTK as he can get cranky and menopausal at times. It stems from so much time spent in a UK basement, listening to his favorite wuss band Echo and the Bunny men (LOL) while picking fights with Americas online. Such a meager existence involves a lot of frustrations and need to snivel at strangers.

Nounce
04-04-22, 05:46
LOL, and I am only interested in using your post to point out how strange and desperate Hollywood has become. What's your point in telling the forum "your only interested in the love angle" in response to my post haha?

All that shit goes down and you just want to know how much they still love each other? Hmmm my guess would be since for years there have been rumors that they have an open relationship and his wife fucks his son's friend, there is not very much of a "traditional" love left between the two. 3.5 billion men on Earth, and she has got to rock the cock of her son's friend and then make sure the world knows it, that is some cold blooded shit LOL.I am just being polite. That's all. Not to the whole forum. It is to Elvis since he seems to be on top of it. LOL.

Mr Enternational
04-05-22, 00:32
The brother and daughter are talking and the daughter taps me on the shoulder and says to her uncle, "Este es mi padre", and I thought that was really nice.You thought it was nice? So you did not correct her? You are letting her go on with a lie? You are not her father and that shit is not cute.

The first boyfriend that my daughter's mom had after me had a son. Her mom was telling her he was her brother. My daughter was 2 years old at the time. I flipped the fuck out.

The same as when chicks say dumb shit that they are the mother and the father. No you are not the father. Does that mean I am my nephew's uncle and aunt? Words mean something. I would never allow someone to call me their father unless I am actually their father. I would correct them. It is no wonder men are able to call themselves women and women themselves men these days.

Yes I have been married before, and when I realized I no longer wanted to be married I told my wife and I filed for divorce. She was a good woman and we never had any arguments or anything. 20 years later she has not remarried either.

Mr Enternational
04-05-22, 00:35
I think the question is care about what? Maybe a woman will compete harder for you to be their guy sexually and appearance wise. But in your own words, you go for average women, and I did not. The women I shot for have tons of men as suitors to them. I can see why you would say what you do, but I do not think it applied to me.To me every woman is average. I do not put anyone on a pedastal. We are all spinning on this same planet trying to feed ourselves and our families. Newsflash: If a woman has a pussy then there are tons of men as suitors.

JustTK
04-05-22, 02:12
I didn't base my statement on any statistical or scientific data, simply my own experience. I have gotten gonorrhea 3 times in Mexico but not once in Colombia. If you feel the need to call me a "pretender" or whatever else then that is on you, I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else on ISG.Ok understood. If you had said in your original post that you had got the clap more times In Mexico than in Colombia, I wouldn't have commented. But that you said was:

"Also mexican girls have higher rates of STDs than vennies and colombianas. ".

Which I am sure you can see could easily be interpreted as a different claim. People sure do talk a lot of stupid shlt in MDE.

Gabacho
04-05-22, 04:15
Ok understood. If you had said in your original post that you had got the clap more times In Mexico than in Colombia, I wouldn't have commented. But that you said was:

"Also mexican girls have higher rates of STDs than vennies and colombianas. ".

Which I am sure you can see could easily be interpreted as a different claim. People sure do talk a lot of stupid shlt in MDE.Fair enough.

DramaFree11
04-05-22, 04:41
Ok understood. If you had said in your original post that you had got the clap more times In Mexico than in Colombia, I wouldn't have commented. But that you said was:

"Also mexican girls have higher rates of STDs than vennies and colombianas. ".

Which I am sure you can see could easily be interpreted as a different claim. People sure do talk a lot of stupid shlt in MDE.So true. Just like MDE is better then Mexico City. Not even close.

Elvis 2008
04-05-22, 07:22
You thought it was nice? So you did not correct her? You are letting her go on with a lie? You are not her father and that shit is not cute.

The same as when chicks say dumb shit that they are the mother and the father. No you are not the father. Does that mean I am my nephew's uncle and aunt? Words mean something. I would never allow someone to call me their father unless I am actually their father. I would correct them. It is no wonder men are able to call themselves women and women themselves men these days.You do not understand the context of the conversation or her relationship with her own father. What I am trying to tell you are the relationships you are missing out on. This woman wants to take it to another level with you, and you refuse. That is fine if you are refusing her but there are issues with you if you reject the concept.


To me every woman is average. I do not put anyone on a pedastal. We are all spinning on this same planet trying to feed ourselves and our families. Newsflash: If a woman has a pussy then there are tons of men as suitors.You should be putting the right woman on a pedestal. My biggest issue with women is they quit. They feel sorry for themselves, make themselves out to be victims, and do not do what they say they are going to do. When I spoke of investment, I am talking my time, my heart, and my wisdom in addition to money, and I want a return on that. The most boring thing in the world is a woman as a taker and so many evolve into that. The reason I saw WGs is with them at least I got on a short term return on my money and time.


She was a good woman and we never had any arguments or anything. 20 years later she has not remarried either.And I am not even arguing with you but you lose it right here. Why did you bring up that she has not married again? So you can be special but no women can be?

And that is your issue. I am not even sure what is going on with you and your daughter but you are carrying around a lot of shame, something else you will deny. Whatever the relationship was, to live with yourself, you are just saying that you are the type that has to see multiple women. God made you that way blah, blah, blah.

So maybe that is true. Maybe you are so addicted to pussy and afraid of commitment, you are the way you are. Or maybe, just maybe, you have not found a situation worthy of an investment of your time, energy, commitment, and money. Maybe you are not the asshole you think you are.

PedroMorales
04-05-22, 09:14
I would never allow someone to call me their father unless I am actually their father. I actually get a kick from third world hookers calling me daddy as I bang them bareback. Tio, uncle, is a Spanish term of affection in a non banging sense.

Words don't mean shit anymore; Hamlet is dead. Folk can't even define what a woman is anymore.

Mexican women tend to condom up and so STI rates tend to be relatively low. Let's not talk about the huge rates in the USA. Of course, condoms do not stop everything.

I find it amusing folk fall in love with these hookers. I posted in the Philippines about a psychotic British criminal and his Pinay hooker moll being arrested. God preserve us from such scum.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10683415/Moment-Briton-facing-life-Manila-jail-attacked-revellers-wife-tried-drag-away.html

The videos are worth watching to see what a menace this fellow is. Latinos would have wasted him, bang bang, problem over.

Later on today, I might bang this SE Asia hooker. She is nice etc. She stays in Airbnb's. Myself and my economist friend worked out her running costs, break even points and so on. She must be getting some very serious drilling, much like the hookers who parade around in circles in Mexico City on weekends.

Huacho
04-05-22, 12:56
The reason we go abroad is the American system is expensive or broken The reason you go abroad is you are a fat piece of shit and can't get laid in the Yew Ess. If you had any brains or balls you would just move like a lot of us have.

MarquisdeSade1
04-05-22, 14:43
I actually get a kick from third world hookers calling me daddy as I bang them bareback. Tio, uncle, is a Spanish term of affection in a non banging sense.

Words don't mean shit anymore; Hamlet is dead. Folk can't even define what a woman is anymore.

Mexican women tend to condom up and so STI rates tend to be relatively low. Let's not talk about the huge rates in the USA. Of course, condoms do not stop everything.

I find it amusing folk fall in love with these hookers. I posted in the Philippines about a psychotic British criminal and his Pinay hooker moll being arrested. God preserve us from such scum.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10683415/Moment-Briton-facing-life-Manila-jail-attacked-revellers-wife-tried-drag-away.html

The videos are worth watching to see what a menace this fellow is. Latinos would have wasted him, bang bang, problem over.

Later on today, I might bang this SE Asia hooker. She is nice etc. She stays in Airbnb's. Myself and my economist friend worked out her running costs, break even points and so on. She must be getting some very serious drilling, much like the hookers who parade around in circles in Mexico City on weekends.I want to party with Elon.

https://sputniknews.com/20220405/zorro-masked-elon-musk-goes-on-sex-club-crawl-in-berlin---reports-1094501004.html

KilledSoul
04-05-22, 16:55
Then in middle of fuck I started asking questions to myself could she be a trans actually.

How can somebody have sex with a person and be not sure if that is person is trans or not? Serious question. Have sex change surgeries become so good?

Mr Enternational
04-05-22, 18:20
You do not understand the context of the conversation or her relationship with her own father.That has zero to do with anything. The FACT is that you are NOT her father and will never be no matter how many times it is repeated that you are.


What I am trying to tell you are the relationships you are missing out on. This woman wants to take it to another level with you, and you refuse.Describe this other level that there is supposed to be. Is my dick going to slide into her any different? Will there be fireworks at the restaurant entrance everytime we go out to eat? At the cinema will they pause the movie to acknowledge our presence? Will she be able to take off even more clothes in the nekkit pictures that she sends me? The day someone claims they are going to this supposed other level what changes? But she is home baking my favorite peach pie for me right now so this level that we are on seems to be pretty good from my point of view.


Why did you bring up that she has not married again? So you can be special but no women can be?No particular reason. I never professed to being special. I am just a regular guy the same as I see eveybody else as just being regular people. Sure we got different jobs, education levels, financial achievements, likes and dislikes, and so on, but we are still just people.


And that is your issue. I am not even sure what is going on with you and your daughter but you are carrying around a lot of shame, something else you will deny.LOL. My daughter is a grown woman with her own kids. I have shame, you do not know what from, and I will deny it? No shame here. I could say you are really gay but you will deny it.


Maybe you are so addicted to pussy and afraid of commitment, you are the way you are. Or maybe, just maybe, you have not found a situation worthy of an investment of your time, energy, commitment, and money.I never said anything about being addicted to pussy. My theory is that being addicted to pussy is bullshit. If someone could really be addicted to pussy then it would stand to reason that they could be addicted to one pussy the same that many drug addicts are addicted to one drug. Instead, people mistakenly call going from chick to chick as being addicted to pussy, as if they could not get pussy from the same chick over and over to feed their supposed pussy addiction.

You keep insisting that somebody who does not want a certain thing (to be with only one person) really wants that thing but is afraid of it. If that is something that I wanted then I could have it tons of times over. One chick that I was messing with even put an 18K gold wedding band on my finger while I was sleeping. I fly airplanes. I scuba dive. Tons of things in this life that I have wanted I have had no problem working to get. If I wanted a monogamous relationship then that is exactly what I would have. But just so happens that is not what I want. Why can a person not admit when something is not for them?


Maybe you are not the asshole you think you are.LOL. I never said that I am an asshole. Most women say I am a great guy, especially after they get to know me. This is why I remain friends with most of my ex-girlfriends and my ex-wife.

Even the chick that is making the pie thought I was an asshole at first. I can not think of how to phrase it in English but she kept telling me my personality is very strong or I talk too strongly. I think she had ended up blocking me on whatsapp because she was no longer responding to my messages. Then I called and put a bug in her ear and magically we were talking on whatsapp again and things have been great since.

It seems a lot of women have a fantasy of how a guy is supposed to be. Evidently nothing about me fits that fantasy. For example yesterday a chick asked how I was doing and I said well. She went into a thing about how I am so dry as many chicks that do not know me do. I have no idea what she was expecting me to say. She went on about how she wants a loving, sweet, romantic man. Was I supposed to draw stars or butterflies along with saying I am well in order not to seem dry to her?

For some reason many chicks expect me to be turning back flips or acting like a clown at the circus whenever we write or do a videocall. Me looking regular, doing regular shit, going about a regular day for some reason shatters their fantasy. Am I supposed to be jumping up and down dancing while looking at a computer screen searching for something on Amazon? I mean how romantic can a mf answer the question of how they are doing? Maybe she was expecting me to bust out in poetry.

JustTK
04-05-22, 19:54
How can somebody have sex with a person and be not sure if that is person is trans or not? Serious question. Have sex change surgeries become so good?Well, I had a similar experience. In a location where trans are not very common, so it was not the first thing on my mind.

I went to this girl's apartment for a massage (but she was advertising in a paid sex website).

She gave me massage, blow job. She had plastic breasts, but that is not an alert on its own is it?! She had the lights off and curtains drawn. I went down on her for a few minutes. Smthg was not quite right down there. Dunno what it was exactly but def seemed like she either had had surgery or had a defomity. Then we had sex with her on top, and I just couldn't seem to enter properly. Seemed her vag was too short! .

So in toal several things that on their own are explainable. Put them together and I was left wondering to myself.

RamDavidson84
04-05-22, 20:29
Well, I had a similar experience. In a location where trans are not very common, so it was not the first thing on my mind.

I went to this girl's apartment for a massage (but she was advertising in a paid sex website).

She gave me massage, blow job. She had plastic breasts, but that is not an alert on its own is it?! She had the lights off and curtains drawn. I went down on her for a few minutes. Smthg was not quite right down there. Dunno what it was exactly but def seemed like she either had had surgery or had a defomity. Then we had sex with her on top, and I just couldn't seem to enter properly. Seemed her vag was too short! .

So in toal several things that on their own are explainable. Put them together and I was left wondering to myself.HAHAHA it takes a brave man to share that story. LOL.

Mtndew704
04-05-22, 20:37
Well, I had a similar experience. In a location where trans are not very common, so it was not the first thing on my mind.

I went to this girl's apartment for a massage (but she was advertising in a paid sex website).

She gave me massage, blow job. She had plastic breasts, but that is not an alert on its own is it?! She had the lights off and curtains drawn. I went down on her for a few minutes. Smthg was not quite right down there. Dunno what it was exactly but def seemed like she either had had surgery or had a defomity. Then we had sex with her on top, and I just couldn't seem to enter properly. Seemed her vag was too short! .

So in toal several things that on their own are explainable. Put them together and I was left wondering to myself.Damn you slept with a tranny.

Elvis 2008
04-06-22, 00:45
That has zero to do with anything. The FACT is that you are NOT her father and will never be no matter how many times it is repeated that you are.Fine, if you want the context, we are at dinner, and the uncle asks about her biological father, and she pats me on the shoulder and said what she said. I caught about half of it. My gal then explains to me what the daughter said. The daughter is a teenager. I do not have explain anything to her. She has not had a positive role model in her life and now she has one. She was so down on her biological father that she wanted him off of her legal name even before I came in the picture. Apparently, he was a drug addict and abuser of multiple women, and she saw that. It would have been inappropriate for me to correct her as she was not even talking to me.


You keep insisting that somebody who does not want a certain thing (to be with only one person) really wants that thing but is afraid of it.No, I am insisting you get the best return on your money, time, and energy and being open to the fact that your current life is not that.


If I wanted a monogamous relationship then that is exactly what I would have.Nope, you are confusing me with the religious nuts. Chances are if you just had a monogamous relationship just to have one, you would be miserable.


For some reason many chicks expect me to be turning back flips or acting like a clown at the circus whenever we write or do a videocall. Me looking regular, doing regular shit, going about a regular day for some reason shatters their fantasy. Am I supposed to be jumping up and down dancing while looking at a computer screen searching for something on Amazon? I mean how romantic can a mf answer the question of how they are doing?Not at all. The women should be thinking what do they have to do to earn your monogamy, and if they do not, you should keep the relationship superficial and be on the lookout for better.

If you play the woman's game of being Prince Charming, you will eventually get fed up with the woman's selfish bullshit act and leave.


Is my dick going to slide into her any different? Will there be fireworks at the restaurant entrance everytime we go out to eat?No, the sex will be so good that anyone else will be a disappointment. Remember when I said sugar baby sex was better than ho sex and guys got mad at me? Everyone who has done SB sex agreed with me. You helped me get this gal Mr. E, and I am telling you that having sex with one person who earned my monogamy blows the best sex I have ever had away.

But it is hard finding a good SB and even harder finding a woman worthy of your monogamy.

So you have to be open that such a woman exists (I almost didn't). I think it is good to define what you are looking for. In my case, I really did not do that. It was more like rejecting the hos and selfish types that I knew I did not want long term.

I am not preaching Mr. E. The best sex is going to win not the best argument, and you are missing out on the best sex.

MarquisdeSade1
04-06-22, 01:53
Well, I had a similar experience. In a location where trans are not very common, so it was not the first thing on my mind.

I went to this girl's apartment for a massage (but she was advertising in a paid sex website).

She gave me massage, blow job. She had plastic breasts, but that is not an alert on its own is it?! She had the lights off and curtains drawn. I went down on her for a few minutes. Smthg was not quite right down there. Dunno what it was exactly but def seemed like she either had had surgery or had a defomity. Then we had sex with her on top, and I just couldn't seem to enter properly. Seemed her vag was too short! .

So in toal several things that on their own are explainable. Put them together and I was left wondering to myself."She"? So you want to confess to sticking your tongue and pene into what you think was probably a dood?

I thought this site is for hetero sex only?

Paulie97
04-06-22, 02:04
Well, I had a similar experience. In a location where trans are not very common, so it was not the first thing on my mind.

I went to this girl's apartment for a massage (but she was advertising in a paid sex website).

She gave me massage, blow job. She had plastic breasts, but that is not an alert on its own is it?! She had the lights off and curtains drawn. I went down on her for a few minutes. Smthg was not quite right down there. Dunno what it was exactly but def seemed like she either had had surgery or had a defomity. Then we had sex with her on top, and I just couldn't seem to enter properly. Seemed her vag was too short! .

So in toal several things that on their own are explainable. Put them together and I was left wondering to myself.Glad that all worked out for you, as this surely is your preference anyway. What else would you expect from a guy whose favorite rock group is Echo & The Bunnymen? ROFL.

Nounce
04-06-22, 09:32
Fine, if you want the context, we are at dinner, and the uncle asks about her biological father, and she pats me on the shoulder and said what she said. I caught about half of it. My gal then explains to me what the daughter said. The daughter is a teenager. I do not have explain anything to her. She has not had a positive role model in her life and now she has one. She was so down on her biological father that she wanted him off of her legal name even before I came in the picture. Apparently, he was a drug addict and abuser of multiple women, and she saw that. It would have been inappropriate for me to correct her as she was not even talking to me.

No, I am insisting you get the best return on your money, time, and energy and being open to the fact that your current life is not that.

Nope, you are confusing me with the religious nuts. Chances are if you just had a monogamous relationship just to have one, you would be miserable.

Not at all. The women should be thinking what do they have to do to earn your monogamy, and if they do not, you should keep the relationship superficial and be on the lookout for better.

If you play the woman's game of being Prince Charming, you will eventually get fed up with the woman's selfish bullshit act and leave.

No, the sex will be so good that anyone else will be a disappointment. Remember when I said sugar baby sex was better than ho sex and guys got mad at me? Everyone who has done SB sex agreed with me. You helped me get this gal Mr. E, and I am telling you that having sex with one person who earned my monogamy blows the best sex I have ever had away.

But it is hard finding a good SB and even harder finding a woman worthy of your monogamy.

So you have to be open that such a woman exists (I almost didn't). I think it is good to define what you are looking for. In my case, I really did not do that. It was more like rejecting the hos and selfish types that I knew I did not want long term.

I am not preaching Mr. E. The best sex is going to win not the best argument, and you are missing out on the best sex.I am wondering are you expecting to unwind or unload the whole thing, including the daughter one day?

JustTK
04-06-22, 13:42
"She"? So you want to confess to sticking your tongue and pene into what you think was probably a dood?
Sure, it was a she. We can agree that not every female has 2 ovaries, right? Not every female has breasts. Not every female is born the way you might want or expect. So why can't a female be born w a dick (assuming she once had one)?

Gabacho
04-06-22, 13:43
So true. Just like MDE is better then Mexico City. Not even close.No way in hell is CDMX better than medellin. Maybe your thinking about a different Mexico City, idk I'm not into casas or escorts or SA, I'm purely talking about street action as that is what I'm familiar with. If you are saying that La Merced and Buena Vista are better than Botero and Lleras then you are dilusional. Next your going to say the CDMX metro is better than the Medellin metro too right? With all the stupid people trying to sell you shit you don't need or want? You probably buy that double sided tape from them huh?

DramaFree11
04-06-22, 14:05
No way in hell is CDMX better than medellin. Maybe your thinking about a different Mexico City, idk I'm not into casas or escorts or SA, I'm purely talking about street action as that is what I'm familiar with. If you are saying that La Merced and Buena Vista are better than Botero and Lleras then you are delusional. Next your going to say the CDMX metro is better than the Medellin metro too right? With all the stupid people trying to sell you shit you don't need or want? You probably buy that double sided tape from them huh?If you are cheap, like drugs, enjoy being around a bunch of fat / lazy sex tourists, and you have low standards yes, maybe MDE is better. This is crazy. I can go on bad food, terrible service, crappy music. MDE is one step up from a ghetto with a couple of nice places. If you have any game and a decent budget you can have an amazing experience in Mexico City and meet amazing girls, that are professionals and educated. From what you have described you are not looking for this. Maybe you can find this in other cities in Colombia, but I doubt it.

I was very clear I do not do the street game. MDE is low end at best, if that is your thing, then you are in paradise. I forgot to mention it rains all the time and humid. Also, the crime and drugs, yes MDE is Paradise!

Mr Enternational
04-06-22, 14:28
Sure, it was a she. We can agree that not every female has 2 ovaries, right? Not every female has breasts. Not every female is born the way you might want or expect. So why can't a female be born w a dick (assuming she once had one)?Because people born with dicks have XY chromosomes and are defined as male, while people born with XX chromosomes are the definition of females. If a person with XX chromosomes is born with a dick, we will need a new word to define it.

PedroMorales
04-06-22, 14:41
I like La Merced. More if you stay near to the subway for safety (muggers). Fantastic subway, better than New York or London, similar Moscow, not as clean as Berlin, Tokyo, BKK, Paris or Rome but so what. Can't see why you would have a problem with them.


No way in hell is CDMX better than medellin. Maybe your thinking about a different Mexico City, idk I'm not into casas or escorts or SA, I'm purely talking about street action as that is what I'm familiar with. If you are saying that La Merced and Buena Vista are better than Botero and Lleras then you are dilusional. Next your going to say the CDMX metro is better than the Medellin metro too right? With all the stupid people trying to sell you shit you don't need or want? You probably buy that double sided tape from them huh?

Turgid
04-06-22, 15:19
Well, I had a similar experience. In a location where trans are not very common, so it was not the first thing on my mind.

I went to this girl's apartment for a massage (but she was advertising in a paid sex website).

She gave me massage, blow job. She had plastic breasts, but that is not an alert on its own is it?! She had the lights off and curtains drawn. I went down on her for a few minutes. Smthg was not quite right down there. Dunno what it was exactly but def seemed like she either had had surgery or had a defomity. Then we had sex with her on top, and I just couldn't seem to enter properly. Seemed her vag was too short! .

So in toal several things that on their own are explainable. Put them together and I was left wondering to myself.Nightmare on MTF street.

Mr Enternational
04-06-22, 15:44
The daughter is a teenager. I do not have explain anything to her. She has not had a positive role model in her life and now she has one. She was so down on her biological father that she wanted him off of her legal name even before I came in the picture. Apparently, he was a drug addict and abuser of multiple women, and she saw that. It would have been inappropriate for me to correct her as she was not even talking to me.Wrong. You say that as if teenagers are the smartest people on the planet. As this positive role model you missed a chance at a very teachable moment. You should have taken the time to explain to her that it is better to try to get help for her father than disassociating herself from him. Whether she likes it or not, he IS her father and her family. She can not run away from that fact no matter what she changes her name to.

Unless she was a raape baby, no responsibility falls on the bum ass woman that chose a drug addict and abuser of multiple women to get pregnant by? We all have choices, but no kid ever questions the mother's choice of father for their child. The father is horrible, but the mother is not horrible for choosing him? She takes no responsibility for that at all huh?

Women always try to run away from life and in search of a "fresh start." No. All of that shit is a part of the only life you have and you need to learn to deal with it instead fooling yourself into believe you can run from it and start again. Ain't no do overs.


No, I am insisting you get the best return on your money, time, and energy and being open to the fact that your current life is not that.I already have the best return on my money. I come and go as I please and I do not have any bills. As I tell a lot of these chicks, you are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. I am not in the market of paying bills that another person created. From my point of view I am in the cat bird seat.


Not at all. The women should be thinking what do they have to do to earn your monogamy, and if they do not, you should keep the relationship superficial and be on the lookout for better.Again, you are assuming monogamy is at the top of everyone's list. Old girl tried to get me with that last night though. She asked me if I was still on Cupid. I said what does that matter. She said that I already have her so I do not need to be on there. I told her that I am going to keep going on there, if nothing else to see if she is on there. Funny how women always think they have busted you. Bih I am on here trying to see what you are doing on here!


No, the sex will be so good that anyone else will be a disappointment. Remember when I said sugar baby sex was better than ho sex and guys got mad at me? Everyone who has done SB sex agreed with me.Maybe these people are not having sex with normal women. Are they also saying sugar baby sex is better than sex from normal woman? I go with hookers for the fun it, not because I am lacking great sex from normal women. As I said before, I like going out to restaurants sometimes although I make great food in my own kitchen.


The best sex is going to win not the best argument, and you are missing out on the best sex.Best sex is very subjective seeing that everyone does not get off on the same thing. Sex is only part of a relationship. There are tons of things that I could not put up with no matter how good some sex is.

Villainy
04-06-22, 16:12
Because people born with dicks have XY chromosomes and are defined as male, while people born with XX chromosomes are the definition of females. If a person with XX chromosomes is born with a dick, we will need a new word to define it.https://www.britannica.com/science/hermaphroditism

Elvis 2008
04-06-22, 17:19
I am wondering are you expecting to unwind or unload the whole thing, including the daughter one day?That is a good question. One of the things that always happened to me in the past was the sex would peak after 3 months. Then the woman quits trying to please you, and it gets worse. That has not happened here. The sex has gotten better.

The same goes with being nice. Eventually, the women stop trying to be nice to you. They quit trying to please you and ask for more things. That has not happened here either. She has done more to please me.

So right now, instead of rushing in and committing, I have stayed back, talked about the future, but am making sure that I cement things in place. I want things to be such that if there is a more formal commitment down the road, as little as possible changes.

So yeah, Nounce, if she keeps down this path and keeps doing what she is doing, then there will be a commitment, but like I have said so much, it is not up to me. She has to earn it.

Elvis 2008
04-06-22, 18:12
Wrong. You say that as if teenagers are the smartest people on the planet. As this positive role model you missed a chance at a very teachable moment. You should have taken the time to explain to her that it is better to try to get help for her father than disassociating herself from him. Whether she likes it or not, he IS her father and her family. She can not run away from that fact no matter what she changes her name to.No, you are wrong. It is up to her not me. She gets along fine with her father's brothers and parents. If she wants to consider her me her role model and not her bum of a father, that is her right.


Unless she was a raape baby, no responsibility falls on the bum ass woman that chose a drug addict and abuser of multiple women to get pregnant by? We all have choices, but no kid ever questions the mother's choice of father for their child. The father is horrible, but the mother is not horrible for choosing him? She takes no responsibility for that at all huh?Since when can a guy have his shit together at 18 and not be a drug and woman abuser at 19? You are sounding like Marquis de Sade here. My gal and this guy were both teenagers.


Women always try to run away from life and in search of a "fresh start." No. All of that shit is a part of the only life you have and you need to learn to deal with it instead fooling yourself into believe you can run from it and start again. Ain't no do overs. Save that for the women bouncing from guy to guy and not the single mom who raised her kid on her own starting as a teenager.


I already have the best return on my money. I come and go as I please and I do not have any bills. As I tell a lot of these chicks, you are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. I am not in the market of paying bills that another person created. From my point of view I am in the cat bird seat.How can you be in the cat bird seat when you are dealing with hos who expect you to be a bank? Who no show you? Who want you to jump through hoops to impress them? After 5 years, Mr. E, at best, you will have not real relationships but in all likelihood superficial acquaintances and good memories. I get it. There are a very few women who are investible, who are not happy just relying on a man, and believe that 1 + 1 can equal 3, but they do exist.

You are doing better than most guys here. Who else is getting invited into the homes of women? Who else here is not so afraid or hateful of women that they can take them in more than small, superficial doses and can get said women? I get how well you are doing, but there is better.


Sex is only part of a relationship. There are tons of things that I could not put up with no matter how good some sex is.LOL. I remember there being one woman in my life who was great in bed and a total witch. In general, the best lovers are considerate decent people.


Best sex is very subjective seeing that everyone does not get off on the same thing.That is the same line the guys seeing hos said. But all the guys seeing SBs said that SB sex was better. The reason is the intimacy. There is a difference between a woman sucking a dick for a buck and one who wants to because she likes a guy. Money is often a minimum motivator. When you have a woman sucking dick out of love and not like, it is going to be a level up.

Guys ask me about pleasurable things all the time because they know if I say something is good, it is good. So they will ask me what strip club is good or what restaurant is good. That is one of the gifts of my personality. For example, I can recommend 5 great places to eat in Mexico, 5 in Lima, and none in Colombia. I have had some good meals in Colombia but went back and was disappointed that second time. I would preface any recommendation in Colombia by saying, "I had a good meal there once. " I do not have to preface that in Mexico or Peru.

Elvis 2008
04-06-22, 18:23
I'm purely talking about street action as that is what I'm familiar with. If you are saying that La Merced and Buena Vista are better than Botero and Lleras then you are dilusional.He is not talking street action Gabacho. The women on seeking / SA in MDE and Mexico City have a top end that is fantastic. The difference is that many of the Medellin women are more cocky, materialistic, and superficial than their Mexican counterparts even though the Mexicans often want more money. On the top end, Mexico City wins.

Medellin has a casa scene that CDMX does not. This is the mid range. CDMX has twitter. I have done both but it has been a while in Medellin. Still, the value of the twitter girls and having them come to your hotel beats the Medellin casa scene. I have gotten women off of twitter that performed great and could stop traffic.

I do not have as much experience in the low end, cheap scene but the amount that I have had, I would agree with you that Medellin is better than CDMX.

MarquisdeSade1
04-06-22, 19:35
I like La Merced. More if you stay near to the subway for safety (muggers). Fantastic subway, better than New York or London, similar Moscow, not as clean as Berlin, Tokyo, BKK, Paris or Rome but so what. Can't see why you would have a problem with them.Moscow sure does have a bad ass system but I never saw any hookers down there (as CDMX has), I asked a friend how its so clean? He said go ahead and throw some litter on the ground and see what the cops do to you LMAO.

And you shouldn't mention BKK in the same breath as the others LOL.

MarquisdeSade1
04-06-22, 19:42
No, you are wrong. It is up to her not me. She gets along fine with her father's brothers and parents. If she wants to consider her me her role model and not her bum of a father, that is her right.

Since when can a guy have his shit together at 18 and not be a drug and woman abuser at 19? You are sounding like Marquis de Sade here. My gal and this guy were both teenagers.

Save that for the women bouncing from guy to guy and not the single mom who raised her kid on her own starting as a teenager.

How can you be in the cat bird seat when you are dealing with hos who expect you to be a bank? Who no show you? Who want you to jump through hoops to impress them? After 5 years, Mr. E, at best, you will have not real relationships but in all likelihood superficial acquaintances and good memories. I get it. There are a very few women who are investible, who are not happy just relying on a man, and believe that 1 + 1 can equal 3, but they do exist.

You are doing better than most guys here. Who else is getting invited into the homes of women? Who else here is not so afraid or hateful of women that they can take them in more than small, superficial doses and can get said women? I get how well you are doing, but there is better..You're just "jelly" that you're a beta little (morbidly obese) cuck, that tries to get 3rd world putas to like them at any cost, and you are flattered when they tell their puta offspring to call you padre.

You are a quintessential Losers Loser.

"Money is often a minimum motivator" LMAO you have to be the goofiest cocksucker this site has ever seen huge congrats you even outshine JJtheCCPvirussuperspreader!

Huacho
04-06-22, 20:06
When you have a woman sucking dick out of love and not like, it is going to be a level up.Yeah, that's true. I have such a woman now, sucking dick out of love. Not that she is in love with me or anything like that. She's in love with sucking dick.

Sargon76
04-06-22, 22:52
Contrast this with the ladyboys in Thailand who will try to trick you. Once they get you in a hotel room, they ain't leaving' until they get paid, and it can get violent in a hurry. Many of them are expert martial artists and they are twice as strong as you would expect.

I know, you are big muscular Special Forces bad ass. Jajajaja, you are dead meat. No matter what happens in the room, if they don't get paid, next time you go out four of them will approach, and while are thinking you still have the upper hand because you actually believe that shit you have been telling yourself all these years, four more ladyboys show up, all with little four-inch knives. Once the action starts, four more. And they are skilled fighters.With all due respect Osteo, this is never been my experience with ladyboys. I have been to Thailand many times and as a rule, ladyboys are very upfront about what they are. Never seen anyone have a problem with them, that wasn't started by extremely disrespectful behavior on the part of the guy.

Anyways stay awesome bro.

Lefeu
04-07-22, 03:16
With all due respect Osteo, this is never been my experience with ladyboys. I have been to Thailand many times and as a rule, ladyboys are very upfront about what they are. Never seen anyone have a problem with them, that wasn't started by extremely disrespectful behavior on the part of the guy.

Anyways stay awesome bro.There has been many incidents where the unfortunate monger was subject to harassment, beating, just like Osteo described it. A few years ago, an Iranian monger was attacked by a group of lady boys over a price dispute. The poor monger was sent to the hospital with a severe head wound. This incident was reported in Thai and foreign newspapers. The poor dude had his photo splashed on many newspapers.

Osteoknot
04-07-22, 03:24
With all due respect Osteo, this is never been my experience with ladyboys. I have been to Thailand many times and as a rule, ladyboys are very upfront about what they are. Never seen anyone have a problem with them, that wasn't started by extremely disrespectful behavior on the part of the guy.

Anyways stay awesome bro.I only spent about 4 months in Thailand. I think I was on a roll for worst case scenario in my previous post. I was in a doom and gloom mood, although that story was real if not firsthand. And I have never had a trans lie to me in Medellin even in the first few seconds. I have a few tranny acquaintances in Ground Zero because they seem to know more than anyone about what is going on, up to the moment, including where the chicas are who I like to boff.

The trannies can also provide a lot of protection when they like you. And no one would scare me more than one of those giant muscular buffed trannies who I see at Ground Zero, over near Simon Bolivar Parque, and in the Vennie section of El Centro. But I seem to have stayed on their good side.

One tranny I met in Pattaya was absolutely beautiful and chatted me up daily for a week when I walked past the bar where she worked. I really thought she was a girl. On about the sixth or seventh day she could tell I was going to ask her back to my hotel room nearby off Walking Street. Then, she said, "I give good massages because I have reeaaally strong hands, jaja. " I said, "You mean like a guy?" To which she responded, "Do you want to see my penis"?

I thanked her and told her I already knew what a penis looked like. I thought of the movie Crying Game, jaja, but I couldn't do it even though she weighed well under 100 pounds. I thanked her for telling me before we got to my room but it seemed like she felt I would "give in" because we had bonded over the week. I still liked her and chatted her up most days before I left town.

Gawd I can write fast, and probably too much.

Would you at least agree that the Ladyboy's of Thailand (Bangkok, Pattaya) are more aggressive, on average, that the trannies in Medellin? Or was my experience not typical?

JustTK
04-07-22, 04:46
Because people born with dicks have XY chromosomes and are defined as male, while people born with XX chromosomes are the definition of females. If a person with XX chromosomes is born with a dick, we will need a new word to define it.Science has moved on since then. These days the words male and female are simply classifications from an assessment of a baby at birth. Nothing more. And this means that females (and males) include an enormous spectrum of biological features, many of which (if not all) appear in both classifications.

The only scientific definition of male / female worth its salt is the classification based on the size of gametes produced. But the obvious issue there is that many people (those that do not produce gametes) would be neither male nor female, and that's not where society wants to be right now. For example. One could not assign sex until puberty.

JustTK
04-07-22, 04:51
Not that she is in love with me or anything like that. She's in love with sucking dick.I have a girl like that in Sta Marta. She almost purrs when she finds her rhythm.

RamDavidson84
04-07-22, 04:56
Sure, it was a she. We can agree that not every female has 2 ovaries, right? Not every female has breasts. Not every female is born the way you might want or expect. So why can't a female be born w a dick (assuming she once had one)?No, if a person is born with a dick, it's a male. If a person is born with a dick and dressing like a girl and gets ass and tit implants, that's a tranny. You fucked a tranny, not a girl. It's that simple. What the fuck is wrong with people today?

JustTK
04-07-22, 04:58
For centuries the left in the United States has stood against authoritarianism and government repression, and for civil liberties and the cause of the working class. Yet with the advent of COVID and the resulting pandemic, many on the left have abandoned all of those values, acquiescing to the demands of the pharmaceutical industry and co-opted government agencies to support lockdowns, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports.

Jimmy and John Jay College economics professor Christian Parenti discuss the various ways the coronavirus pandemic and the Trump presidency worked to upend the American left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afwVB0ghcKg

Lucky Nuts
04-07-22, 05:01
With all due respect Osteo, this is never been my experience with ladyboys. I have been to Thailand many times and as a rule, ladyboys are very upfront about what they are. Never seen anyone have a problem with them, that wasn't started by extremely disrespectful behavior on the part of the guy.

Anyways stay awesome bro.Absolutely agree. The hottest looking girls on the streets of Thailand are ladyboys and I would ask "are you ladyboy?" and they would enthusiastically answer "yes!" believing that's what I was looking for. I would follow up with "are you cut?" which almost always was answered as "no". Whatever they answered to the second question I feigned disappointment.


Thanks for sharing your observations.

Do we need to visit the clubs in Parque Lleras to talk to girls or can one find them on the streets etc. And ask how much LOL?Yeah the chicas are on the streets as the previous poster already answered your question. Both on the north side of Parque Lleras and on calle 10 as well. But I would suggest you should not be asking "how much". After a short conversation of niceities you should to tell her what you pay and what you want. Asking "how much" imo makes you appear to be a naive gringo. She may counter-offer and you might increase your price but at least you don't look like a first timer.


As a man who remembers dial phones and a black and white world, I must admit I am not entirely sure it is dignified for me to use emojis. I mean it took me a while to start texting as it is. I mean it was sorta the realm of teenage girls. Any way I use them all the time. Partially to fill out my terse replies in Spanish but I do it when I'm texting in English too. Is this acceptable or does it make me seem like an old remit. I mean I am but I don't want to look anymore like one than I am.These chicas don't remember a time of dial up phones and before emojis. So it's just normal to use them in conversation with 18 to 25 year olds. They wouldn't expect any different.

MaddTraveler
04-07-22, 05:32
Science has moved on since then. These days the words male and female are simply classifications from an assessment of a baby at birth. Nothing more. And this means that females (and males) include an enormous spectrum of biological features, many of which (if not all) appear in both classifications.

The only scientific definition of male / female worth its salt is the classification based on the size of gametes produced. But the obvious issue there is that many people (those that do not produce gametes) would be neither male nor female, and that's not where society wants to be right now. For example. One could not assign sex until puberty.I haven't been here in a while but best explanation I've read ever as an excuse to screw ladyboys lmao. See you in Thailand papi and I guess we won't compete LOL. Just be safe with the fellas.

JustTK
04-07-22, 14:19
You fucked a tranny, not a girl. It's that simple. What the fuck is wrong with people today?I dunno mate. I dunno why people can not read what others wrote and then make up their own interpretations. I never said she was not trans.

JustTK
04-07-22, 14:34
if a person is born with a dick, it's a male. If a person is born with a dick and dressing like a girl and gets ass and tit implants, that's a tranny1. 7% of people are born with ambigous genetalia. Its as common as rhaving ed hair apparently.

If you want to stick w the 98.3% that's fine. But know that many of these have other mixed sex characteristics too. And also note, as others have said, that many of the "mixed sex " people are hot as hell and will back you up if you ever get in to a spot of trouble. Haha.

JustTK
04-07-22, 14:38
best explanation I've read ever as an excuse to screw ladyboys lmao. See you in Thailand papi and I guess we won't compete LOL. Just be safe with the fellas.I don't seek them out. But if a girl is sexy, why exclude her? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?!

I am not interested in knowing if someone is scientifically female. I mean, I don't want children, so why should I care if she has ovaries? But if a girl looks sexy and is happy to give me a BJ or let me fk her in her vagina or arse, then I am a happy man. Her sex doesn't come in to it.

Mr Enternational
04-07-22, 15:12
No, you are wrong. It is up to her not me. She gets along fine with her father's brothers and parents. If she wants to consider her me her role model and not her bum of a father, that is her right.

Since when can a guy have his shit together at 18 and not be a drug and woman abuser at 19? You are sounding like Marquis de Sade here. My gal and this guy were both teenagers.So as a teenager your girl's daughter has enough life experience to look at a man she has known all of 2 months as a role model and shun her own father, but her parents as teenagers should not be held accountable for decisions they made (at least the mother should not) because they were both teenagers and it was not possible to have their shit together?

Mr Enternational
04-07-22, 15:19
That is the same line the guys seeing hos said. But all the guys seeing SBs said that SB sex was better. The reason is the intimacy. There is a difference between a woman sucking a dick for a buck and one who wants to because she likes a guy. All this time I thought sugar babies were fucking for money. Are you saying guys no longer have to give them money and gifts? I better run out and get one fast.

Elvis 2008
04-07-22, 16:00
So as a teenager your girl's daughter has enough life experience to look at a man she has known all of 2 months as a role model and shun her own fatherIt has not been 2 months, and she was shunning her father prior to knowing anything about me.


but her parents as teenagers should not be held accountable for decisions they made (at least the mother should not) because they were both teenagers and it was not possible to have their shit together?I am not sure what your point is. After age 12 in many states, children can decide with which parent they want to live if the parents are divorced. A buddy of mine broke up with his GF, and her daughter still wanted him to be her father figure after her mother semi-abandoned her. My buddy said that he would not be a step father but would support her as an emancipated minor. She went to a judge and got that status granted. Eight years later, he fully adopted her, and the record of her genetic mother and father has been expunged.

The powers that be have made it clear that there is a lot more to being a dad than having your sperm fertilize an egg. Sorry if you do not like that but that is the way it is.

JjBee62
04-07-22, 16:22
All this time I thought sugar babies were fucking for money. Are you saying guys no longer have to give them money and gifts? I better run out and get one fast.This entire conversation is bizarre. It's like a telenovela written by Tim Burton and Tim Conway.

I must admit, I've had some fantastic sex with sugar babies, and probably because they really wanted to be with me. However, they weren't my sugar babies. I wasn't the one supporting them. I was just the guy they called on after 3 days pretending to enjoy being with the sugar daddy. But that was many years ago.

I'm completely lost on how someone is supposed to "earn monogamy." Monogamy is not normal human behavior, it never has been. It's a social construct that's never been popular.

I'll stick with girls who earn my erection.

Elvis 2008
04-07-22, 16:24
All this time I thought sugar babies were fucking for money.Yeah, I know. You kept calling them sluts and hos and I kept correcting you on that.


Are you saying guys no longer have to give them money and gifts? I better run out and get one fast.You should. Maybe you will get the paradox that one guy said on the seeking forum that the women who ask for the least get the most. I would call him crazy but the same thing has happened with me and most guys I know.

With a ho, you just care about sex, and she just cares about the money. With a SB, you care about the sex and her. She cares about the money and you.

Yeah, I have heard you guys knocking this as stupid for the last few years, but look at guys who have been doing it and having a great time with it. It was easy to knock it when it was just me but now you have dozens of guys doing it. When you have that many, and you have not tried it, then you are the one who is delusional.

Why did it become popular? Because as I keep saying, the best sex wins.

PedroMorales
04-07-22, 17:23
What the fuck is wrong with people today?The world is gone to fuck. The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire. Check out some of the mad emperors they had. Some mad Serbian transvestite fucker. Today is Sodom and Gomorrah on a quiet day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO96wcBgIOw

MarquisdeSade1
04-07-22, 20:17
All this time I thought sugar babies were fucking for money. Are you saying guys no longer have to give them money and gifts? I better run out and get one fast.I think next he's going to start pitching the idea, that we mongers step up and start adopting all the puta / monger babies he cares so much about LMAO.

No gracias!! ROTFLMMFAO.

Like those infomercials, "save a puta / monger baby for just $5 a day".

Reminds me of the post several months back from Routhard.

It was from the Bogota news, I think it said some puta threw her blue eyed baby girl off a bridge into a river and it died of course.

Now Psychotic Elvis wants to be the mother Teresa of 3rd world puta babies in Latin America.

RamDavidson84
04-07-22, 20:45
I dunno mate. I dunno why people can not read what others wrote and then make up their own interpretations. I never said she was not trans.You are the one who stated, "Why can't a girl be born with a dick? I get some people are born sexually deformed, but I took from your post OK that it should be accepted by society to have a dude be born with a dick and then live his life as a girl, which to me is fine as long as the he / she isn't taking opportunities away from normal women in areas of sport or things like that, or use the same bathroom as little young girls and other shit that just seems weird.

RamDavidson84
04-07-22, 20:53
I don't seek them out. But if a girl is sexy, why exclude her? Why be prejudiced against someone based on what some doctor said 20 years ago?!

I am not interested in knowing if someone is scientifically female. I mean, I don't want children, so why should I care if she has ovaries? But if a girl looks sexy and is happy to give me a BJ or let me fk her in her vagina or arse, then I am a happy man. Her sex doesn't come in to it.LOL, it you want to watch big ol mr. Floppy swing around while you bang an ass, then god bless you. I just don't like the idea of dudes switching to become girls and then taking away opportunities from women like that duochebag from UPENN on the women's swim team. How would you feel as an elite athlete and you trained your heart out in a sport your whole life and then some guy on steroids comes along and crushes you and your dreams of being a champion in your sport just because he cheated? That's what its like for women competing against the he / she crossovers. It ain't fair and its just weird. You want little 6 year old girls watching dudes dressing like girls in their 50's takin a piss next to them in the bathroom. Its weird man. Draw a line on some level of fairness and decency. And look, trans people shouldn't be discriminated against and I don't want them to live in the shadows either, but you can't just let them live and compete as normal women either, its not fair.

JustTK
04-08-22, 00:49
You are the one who stated, "Why can't a girl be born with a dick?You give me the impression that a man is born w a dick and a woman is born w a vagina, and that's the end of the story. But that is a million miles from the truth. Let's stick with the discussion of a woman for now. What makes a woman? There are some traits that are common among women:

Vagina, Womb, Uterus, Ovaries, Being able to produce large gametes.
Breasts.
High level of oestrogen during and after puberty (until she stops being a women, hehe).
XX chromosomes.
Smaller muscles, less body hair, broader hips, more body fat.
Neurological structures and accompanying physiological functions particular to a female.
Womanliness. Being of the gender.
Psychological traits.
Sociological traits.

You will note that these are common in woman, NOT common to ALL women.

So one can ask, how many of the traits must a person have to be called a "woman"?

Most women don't even know if they have some of these traits. But for sure, most women will NOT have some of these traits.

So again, what makes a woman? And why must it be that a woman cannot be born with a dick? Women are born w 6 fingers, a conjoined twin, maybe even a vestigial tail. They have them removed. Why can't a woman have their dick removed?

JustTK
04-08-22, 00:52
LOL, it you want to watch big ol mr. Floppy swing around while you bang an ass, then god bless you.I did write "if a girl looks sexy ". If a girl had a big dick flopping around while I was trying to give her one from behind, I don't think I would find that sexy. I am only sexually attracted to young women. But then again, I have never been in that situation so never say never!