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Bookie77
11-20-20, 21:37
Most of the guys here would prefer to say nothing, when bad things happen to them. Several guys have told me about being robbed, scammed or taken advantage of in some way, but they don't want to put it on the board.

Sometimes the story needs to be told anyway, but there's no need to include the names.

Put yourself in the story. You're staying in Laureles, but have spent the night in Parque Lleras, leaving popcorn trails wherever you go. You finally find a girl, settle on a price and ask if she has a cedula, but in the excitement of the moment you don't ask to see it. Then the cops pull your taxi over, she doesn't have her cedula and the cops are telling you you're in big trouble. What do you do? They're saying you're diddling girls below the legal limit. What's your honest reaction?

These things can and do happen. Fortunately, this time the guy kept calm and called someone who could at least give him moral support. By keeping calm he probably saved himself a fair amount of money and possibly worse.

By not asking to see the cedula, not only did he risk problems with the cops, but he ended up without the treat he expected for the night. 99 times out of 100 you're probably okay. It's that one time which makes for a bad day. Same with your issue with the girl and the cops..There is nothing to be ashamed of. And I truly believe that no matters have happened to them they should write it. I am planning to move there and I admit that I am an occasional cocaine user. I live in Europe is it possible to say no I won't take cocaine in Medellin. I am pretty sure that the first thing that I am going to look for is who has the purest cocaine and how can I find him. Now I know that as long as I carry one gram according to Colombian law it's not illegal but if I carry 2 grams then it's illegal and I can face 5 years to jail. But what happens if I carry a gram of cocaine and the police says it's not one it's two and start blackmailing me. Call the best lawyer? And then what? It's my word against theirs. The court will never believe me. There are some things that could go wrong even if someone takes the best measures he can just because the whole system in Colombia is corrupted.

Incrociatore
11-20-20, 21:43
Exactly right!

Believe want you want.
Listen to the bravado if you like.
However, going out and walking Centro after 9 pm is just dumb.

I'm back in Sao Paulo now.I did, I have been there at 9 PM, but it's not a good time. No people, therefore just a few girls, mostly of them ugly. A lot of zombies. Best time between 4 and 7.

Tell me about Sao Paulo. I should be there in a couple of weeks. Prices on Erosguia are real? And pictures are real? Because there are so many girls on these websites that I'm getting hard just thinking about that. And most of them are just 200 reais, and they look hot, much more than the Colombians. Are they? I do love OTR (On The Road). I'm thinking to rent a car and do some OTR. A car will cost me like 15 dollars per day. Is that a bad idea? A very bad idea? Taxis are cheaper than in Colombia or more expensive? And restaurants are much more expensive? Would I spend more than 15 dollars in taxis if I take it 6/8 times a day? I want to fuck 4 girls per day. Much more than in Colombia.

Surfer500
11-20-20, 22:02
Hey if it gets a girl horny. I am all for it. The only thing that went wrong I couldn't stay hard in the condom and she wasnt down for bareback. I only smoke if the girl smokes and only before the session and never after. She has consistently shown the same behavior every encounter. She and the 8th we have a good connection..When you get older, at least for me, I find it harder and harder to finish, especially when I am with a Chica for 24 to 48 hours at a time. Probably the biggest impediment in being able to maintain an erection is whenever I have had any alcohol before a session. Hence I have my drinks afterwards, and never before.

As far as smoking weed, which I have done a few times, with the exception of the "Crepa" experience, it has not been an impediment. On this last trip there were occasions when my Nympho was with me that I didn't need any assistance with Viagra, of which my normal dose is 1/2 of a 50 MG pill, or 1/4 of a 100 MG pill. I'm over sixty, and was amazed on my last trip how well I did with not taking any Viagra at times, which I attribute to my Nympho Chica, and like you, love it when a Chica is totally in heat.

During my forays into El Centro, I always take Viagra upon arriving, I'm usually on a bombing run there, and want to make sure I'm locked and loaded and will be up for the moment when I identify my victim.

Incrociatore
11-20-20, 22:30
Blakman, all due respect, but your over thinking things, and focusing on the wrong things in navigating El Centro.

First off, if you have even the slightest thought in your mind that the girl your thinking of going with is less than 18, and doesn't have either a Cedula or Passport, don't even engage with her, and walk away, which you have been doing, and is smart to do.

Moving past this, stick to either the Premier Plaza or Hotel Zona Rosa (ZR), and yes ZR has hot water, and they will check ID's if they think anyone is under age. I have one Chica that is over thirty and was refused entry at Zona Rosa because they thought she was under age, and didn't have a Cedula. These two Hotels, which I know from personal experience, are very diligent in this regards, so I stick with them, albeit I use others as well where there are no obvious age issues.

You also have to get out of the mindset of negotiating time with the El Centro Chicas. Keep in mind that probably over 99% of the El Centro Chicas clients are locals, so they are not there to be romancing these Chicas, but to blow a load, and a get out of dodge. Therefore, stop getting quotes for extended time until you find a repeat that you want to spend time with. Most encounters for these Chicas are short, so when you ask for more time, of course they are going to ask for more, and Colombians math skills as you have noticed don't add up meaning 1 plus 1 doesn't equal 2 but 3.All true. El Centro is a test drive. You test a chica for 25/30 mil, and if it's a good ride, then you discuss with her an arrangement. Considering most of them don't make more than 4 clients a day, they are willing to accept 100 for 2/3 hours to your place, because is convenient. If they like you, and you are a good fuck. Moreover, who would like to spend an entire hour in one of those "hotels"? Took me a day to understand it when I was there, Blackman is still processing after two weeks.

Mr Enternational
11-21-20, 00:44
I am pretty sure that the first thing that I am going to look for is who has the purest cocaine Have you seen how they make that shit? There is nothing pure about ingesting gasoline, kerosine, lime, etc. Pure is chewing the leaves or drinking the tea.

Zach Hammond
11-21-20, 00:53
Have you seen how they make that shit? There is nothing pure about ingesting gasoline, kerosine, lime, etc. Pure is chewing the leaves or drinking the tea.Hey now, pretty much everything you eat was processed using harsh chemical solvents and created using harsh reactants — but as long as they're solvents and reactants that can be reliably filtered or separated out from the final product, who cares?

All perfumes start as benzene. But there's no benzene in perfume.

A pure chemical (measured by GC / MS assay) is a pure chemical. And if the process for getting the chemical pure is easy enough, it's what any reputable chemist is going to do. (They have to clean it somehow, otherwise it'll be like 90% gunk and won't even resemble the final product. And usually, the "easy" way to clean chemicals is also the best way: distillation, vacuum filtration and recrystallization.)

The leaves (if you just buy or pick them), meanwhile, are probably soaked in pesticides to the point that you can't get them out just by washing. (As is any farmed plant used mostly as an input to industrial-scale extraction of a chemical.).

Balboa
11-21-20, 01:20
I did, I have been there at 9 PM, but it's not a good time. No people, therefore just a few girls, mostly of them ugly. A lot of zombies. Best time between 4 and 7.

Tell me about Sao Paulo. I should be there in a couple of weeks. Prices on Erosguia are real? And pictures are real? Because there are so many girls on these websites that I'm getting hard just thinking about that. And most of them are just 200 reais, and they look hot, much more than the Colombians. Are they? I do love OTR (On The Road). I'm thinking to rent a car and do some OTR. A car will cost me like 15 dollars per day. Is that a bad idea? A very bad idea? Taxis are cheaper than in Colombia or more expensive? And restaurants are much more expensive? Would I spend more than 15 dollars in taxis if I take it 6/8 times a day? I want to fuck 4 girls per day. Much more than in Colombia.Let me tell you, I love Colombia, but I really loooove Brazil.

São Paulo is incredible!

From low end to high end, it's Great!

Send me a PM if ya like.

Blakman
11-21-20, 01:23
Maybe I am slow processing cause its not my cup of tea. I am into sensual sex so I am figuring out that is not going to happen in centro. Then I am figuring out the cost of cab ride does not make it the best option. Its 30 minutes for sex. This blakman needs more time to do his thing. Then I am calculated the higher risk it presents, and at times it makes you feel like a perverted stalker. I think I have a conscience that makes me feel uncomfortable. Now my 100 k 2 leche, 3 horas, oral sex no condom in the comfort of my georgous apartment with the infamous vending machine. That is the ultimate. You get so much more. Incorrecto or whatever your name is. I think my processing of centro not being a place to explore is muy muy muy intelligente. As long as I make the decision before its too late win win. Guys enjoy your 30 minutes of bang bang bang. Newbies enjoy but think smart. Especially if you my age 56 or higher.


All true. El Centro is a test drive. You test a chica for 25/30 mil, and if it's a good ride, then you discuss with her an arrangement. Considering most of them don't make more than 4 clients a day, they are willing to accept 100 for 2/3 hours to your place, because is convenient. If they like you, and you are a good fuck. Moreover, who would like to spend an entire hour in one of those "hotels"? Took me a day to understand it when I was there, Blackman is still processing after two weeks..

Blakman
11-21-20, 01:33
I am at the point where theres only one in the chamber and at times two. Two nuts and I have to skip a day. I don't have sex unless I wake up in the morning and the dick says okay you can do your thing. I live 4 minutes from lleras park and sometimes my mindset is to chill and sleep. I might be on the brink of retirement.


When you get older, at least for me, I find it harder and harder to finish, especially when I am with a Chica for 24 to 48 hours at a time. Probably the biggest impediment in being able to maintain an erection is whenever I have had any alcohol before a session. Hence I have my drinks afterwards, and never before.

As far as smoking weed, which I have done a few times, with the exception of the "Crepa" experience, it has not been an impediment. On this last trip there were occasions when my Nympho was with me that I didn't need any assistance with Viagra, of which my normal dose is 1/2 of a 50 MG pill, or 1/4 of a 100 MG pill. I'm over sixty, and was amazed on my last trip how well I did with not taking any Viagra at times, which I attribute to my Nympho Chica, and like you, love it when a Chica is totally in heat.

During my forays into El Centro, I always take Viagra upon arriving, I'm usually on a bombing run there, and want to make sure I'm locked and loaded and will be up for the moment when I identify my victim..

Bookie77
11-21-20, 01:36
Have you seen how they make that shit? There is nothing pure about ingesting gasoline, kerosine, lime, etc. Pure is chewing the leaves or drinking the tea.Imagine then what type of cocaine we sniff in Europe and what kind of additives it contains and we still sniff it and pay 100 euros per gram for a percentage of 45% or 60% the maximum. I know it looks stupid doing something that eventually it will kill you, but cholesterol can kill you as well, smoking can kill you, alcohol can kill you.

Surfer500
11-21-20, 01:38
All true. El Centro is a test drive. You test a chica for 25/30 mil, and if it's a good ride, then you discuss with her an arrangement. Considering most of them don't make more than 4 clients a day, they are willing to accept 100 for 2/3 hours to your place, because is convenient. If they like you, and you are a good fuck. Moreover, who would like to spend an entire hour in one of those "hotels"? Took me a day to understand it when I was there, Blackman is still processing after two weeks.This is going to start off a little bit off topic. I can remember the Tijuana street scene many years ago when the sidewalks would be lined up with girls, and the very popular girls, would be getting pulled a lot, and if you stood around a while you would notice it. And all of those sessions in Tijuana were typically like twenty minutes, so the hot ones were sometimes doing easily one an hour and more. If Tallman is reading this, he knows what I'm talking about, and can attest to it.

Medellin is a completely different animal as a lot of the girls who work the streets move around a lot, and given that there are so many with all the Vennies, and given that some of the girls are so undesirable, I honestly would be surprised if any of them are getting 4 clients a day, versus one client a day, and some are even lucky to get one client a day. During the past three years prior to the Pandemic, I never noticed any Chicas getting pulled frequently like in Tijuana back in the day. These are just my observations. As far as Blakman figuring things out in El Centro, will the jury is still out on that!

JjBee62
11-21-20, 02:19
I agree with this. It's better to leave home early and stay off public transport.I agree as well, but old habits die hard.

JjBee62
11-21-20, 02:21
It took my assistance and guide to bring the best out of your story. But don't think its free. Thats going to cost you a mamacita..Soon as I find one that gets gas from eating popcorn, I'll send her over.

Kafka
11-21-20, 02:28
Of course I agree she deserves it!


Does a bear shit in the woods!

Pinky is no dummy, she's been burning the candle on both ends. But does it really matter at the end of the day, probably not, as the experiences are beyond worth it, whatever her cut may be from the other participants.

Surfer500
11-21-20, 02:29
Maybe I am slow processing cause its not my cup of tea. I am into sensual sex so I am figuring out that is not going to happen in centro. Then I am figuring out the cost of cab ride does not make it the best option. Its 30 minutes for sex. This blakman needs more time to do his thing. Then I am calculated the higher risk it presents, and at times it makes you feel like a perverted stalker. I think I have a conscience that makes me feel uncomfortable. Now my 100 k 2 leche, 3 horas, oral sex no condom in the comfort of my georgous apartment with the infamous vending machine. That is the ultimate. You get so much more. Incorrecto or whatever your name is. I think my processing of centro not being a place to explore is muy muy muy intelligente. As long as I make the decision before its too late win win. Guys enjoy your 30 minutes of bang bang bang. Newbies enjoy but think smart. Especially if you my age 56 or higher..I guess I have the best of both worlds in Medellin.

I have a nice place to chill with a Chica for a few days at a time in Poblado when I want, getting to blow loads whenever I want, especially early in the morning, at happy hour during Sunset, before bedtime, and when I don't have a Chica at my place, I do bombing runs in El Centro.

Last week was terrific, some days I would hit El Centro early in the morning and in the afternoon after a workout and then do some fine dining in Poblado, and other days would be sequestered in my place with my Nympho, playing house at times, cooking meals, drinking wine, and banging up in the Terazza bedroom besides the master bedroom.

Perhaps I'm a contradiction, being a dumpster diver in El Centro, yet an inhabitant of Poblado.

I have dined in Poblado in the past spending upwards of $ 80 USD for a fine dinner with wines, yet just a few hours before dinner spending $ 10 to 15 USD banging a Chica in El Centro to get my appetite up before dinner.

Maybe this is a strange picture for some, yet it's how I roll, and had been for the three years before the Pandemic.

Lucky Nuts
11-21-20, 07:25
That was a savage takedown but there was provocation.

OK, switching gears, I will give credit where credit is due. I bowed to peer pressure yesterday and veered off my well beaten path rat race to Veracruz / Botero / Berro. Truth be told it was only partially due to peer pressure from Blakman and Surfer. Their virus risk admonitions gave me a moment of pause. It was long enough to be distracted by messages from my old friend Cata the administradora at Zandaly. She playfully scolded me because I did not honor my promise to stop in since their triumphant reopening. We go back more than ten years so our relationship does not have as many boundaries as it probably should. Anyway, I reluctantly passed on the street opportunities and stopped in to inspect the recent renovations. It is quality work. There is brand new tile flooring throughout. It's not done yet but the already completed rooms give a view of a bright future. A USA size water heater feeds all the fully renovated en suite bathrooms. The biggest change (rather than improvement) is the addition of session rooms on the previously unused basement level. I don't expect the additional capacity will lead to a New Life type of environment. The bar was intentionally left unfinished and its stools are gone. This is a nod to the ongoing virus situation so they can demonstrate social distancing. The bar scene at Zandaly has always been one of my favorite things about the place.Thanks K appeciate the update on Zandaly. It's the first place I got laid in el centro and I don't remember the pesos but do remember it was $13 worth. I never learned her name or became friends but I know the lady always there you're talking about. The place has a great vibe. Even when she'd tell me "no hay flacas para ti hoy" I'd hang out for a couple beers to absorb the blasting music and friendly atmosphere. It's always felt like a safe zone to rest for a while in el centro. I love the bar set-up too. Like chicas amigas. Wonder why other casas don't copy that. I look forward to checking out the renovation. Hope they get a couple flacas back too.

Black Page
11-21-20, 10:11
Alright boys, I'm planning a trip in the next few weeks. I'm Asian as * and speak absolutely 0 Spanish. You brave! Add COVID and the outlook seems tough. Good luck.

Blakman
11-21-20, 10:20
Can someone tell me steps of balling. Like buying a bottle, the cost, what happens when the girl come over, do they drink off the bottle and expect you to by another. Does the bottle decrease her going home price. What do you do if they get drunk. When the night is over and you wake up in the morning is she expecting breakfast. What is total cost roughly. Is it worth it to take them home or schedule a meet for another day. Just curious. Newbies be sure to fuel up when you at lleras park or centro. You might be doing more walking than use to and get dehydrated.

Blakman
11-21-20, 10:22
I was not expecting that this trip.


You brave! Add COVID and the outlook seems tough. Good luck..

Mr Enternational
11-21-20, 13:02
Can someone tell me steps of balling. Like buying a bottle, the cost, what happens when the girl come over, do they drink off the bottle and expect you to by another. Does the bottle decrease her going home price.What kind of Cheap Charlie are you? First of all the bottle will be finished off in 5 minutes. You should know that the more you spend balling, the more they will expect you to give them. They think guys that are not balling have less money and don't expect as much from us.

The Tall Man
11-21-20, 14:03
There's a remarkable difference between going to one corner, or going to one of the strip clubs, and walking around El Centro at night. I'm kind of confused (since this isn't the first time) why you equate going to a place where things are open with walking around El Centro.

If I said Montana was mostly empty, would you reply that there are strip clubs in Missoula (the ones I've been to weren't great, but had a few lookers)? What's with the non sequitur reaction?

Starting about 8 pm most places in El Centro start closing down. By 9 pm the vast majority are closed, Plaza Botero is almost empty, all the stores and restaurants between Plaza Botero and the San Antonio Metro station are closed, all the kiosks are closed and the police are a lot more scarce.

Apparently I need to specify that El Centro is slightly larger than the corner of Avenida De Greiff and Carrera 54. To put it in perspective, De Greiff, commonly referred to as Raudal, is Missoula and El Centro is Montana. We'll add in Conejitas as Billings and Barra Ejecutivo and Club Maracaibo as Helena. There are a few other little areas, but you get the idea.

If you go to Missoula, Billings or Helena at night you can find something going on. If you decide to just drive randomly around Montana at night, unless you're into stargazing, you're going to use a lot of gas with no guarantee of finding any place to refuel before morning.Wiser and truer words have never been spoken. Listen to this advice as it is spot on.

The Tall Man.

Blakman
11-21-20, 14:35
I guess I just want to understand the thinking process. Sangcity. Hope to hear your thoughts.


What kind of Cheap Charlie are you? First of all the bottle will be finished off in 5 minutes. You should know that the more you spend balling, the more they will expect you to give them. They think guys that are not balling have less money and don't expect as much from us..

Osteoknot
11-21-20, 16:12
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

JjBee62
11-21-20, 16:15
I was not expecting that this trip..All depends on the season. It either rains every day, or won't rain for weeks.

DoneDeal
11-21-20, 16:18
Friday: Oriental Spa Medellin and the tall, brunette, heavenly.

As promised, I went back to that tall, brunette, heavenly girl I saw on my way out from my cuatro manos on Wednesday. I booked her a 4 pm. 3:30 sharp I hit my three shots of Ron de Caldas, and I head out. Madam shows me the way. 1.5 hours, 160 k. Take my money. My tall, brunette, heavenly walks in, and leads me to the room.

Finally got the chance to look at her up close. She's a paisa through and through, you don't even have to ask. We talked about locking eyes on Wednesday, she remembered me and said she was hoping I'the come for her. Well here I am sweetie. We talked for a long while, as she massaged me lightly. We hit it off real well.

She began working the wolf from behind, while I laid on my belly. She even began tickling the spot with her finger, which I love. I don't like them going inside (exceptions apply), but a little tickledom from outside, boy do I love it. Then she asked me if I want "algo adicional". Tell me more. BBBJ, 30 k. 30 k es mucho mi amor.

Without responding, and while I laid there on my belly, totally vulnerable, your honor, with her milking the wolf from behind, all of a sudden whoop! I feel a tongue. Yup, a tongue. A tongue in my ass. A tall, brunette, heavenly tongue in my ass.

I begin singing. 3 minutes later I turn. She begins parleying with the wolf, bare. Skills there are below average, but the wolf loves her, whom am I to interfere. She mounts it. Few minutes later, I have her lie on her back.

At this moment, I pause. I'm sitting on the bed on my knees; she's lying completely flat on her back. And I take a full, unobstructed look at that tall, brunette, heavenly expanse of a body. Boy! It is a serene, undulating caramel desert, with two shapely dunes up top. Between her toes and her eyes you cross the Great Plains, and boy you'll be thirsty.

Missionary. Sideways. Passion. The wolf is tired, so I pause. She says what's up? I say I need a break. She doesn't listen. Gets up, goes reverse cowgirl, gets it in (I don't know how), and goes hoo-rah. He gets up in no time. It feels real good. 2 minutes in, and she's got him howling.

We cuddle. We chat. 10-15 minutes. She grabs her phone, says put your number in. She prepares the hot water for me. I shower. As I get dressed, I told her next time, mismo dinero, en mi casa. She says claro mi amor, write me this weekend.

I left. I was on such a high that when I went into the cafe up the street, I was so on fire that I got the number of the chick working the cafe. Will try to take her out, she was really feeling me. Teasingly she said "don't even try, you're Arab and you Arabs marry four women, I can't be your girlfriend. " I'm in love.

I Uber back. Uber guy is super cool. We end up getting empanadas together, and he gives me his number for any transportation needs.

Rum and a cigar on my porch, and I called it an early night. Over and out, gents.


Wednesday: Oriental spa Medellin.

Another spot from my summer 2019 exploits. They used to have a rockstar of a gal, Melissa was her name. We were supposed to get dinner last summer before I left Medellin, but I got busy last few days. Anyways, she's not here no mo.

And who's here now? Well I got there around 4, and they only had two available. Some Yaritzka (or something like that), and an Isabel. They were a 5 and a 6, respectively, and I was really put off by the quality. I didn't really fancy tapping into either one of them, so what did I do, walk out? Wrong. Cuatro manos, baby. Both chicks, and just a massage. 160 k.

Off to the room we went. Pseudo Hindu music queues in. Folks, I have to say, it was a damn good time in there. The Yaritzka girl is no bueno, but man, that Barranquilla Isabel's got some touches. Terrific stuff. They went to work on the wolf, all four hands on deck, on and around it, and man oh man. Eventually, when it was to "go", I noticed that Isabel had a pair of knockers on her that can down a fighter jet. I had her wrap them around the minister, and it made for a grand finish..

DoneDeal
11-21-20, 16:23
Thank you sir, appreciate the thumbs up. It's too bad my report got uploaded like, 48 hours after I posted it. When it went up it was already pages deep.

Rio Sur is nearby and seems promising, thanks for the tip.


Welcome to the block. Excellent report.

Energy does have excellent hot water, but sometimes it takes some fiddling around to find it.

If massages with hand action make you happy go to the Rio Sur mall. It's directly across the street from Oviedo mall. There are 3 massage spas in there. They are Om Spa, Zen Spa and Dan Spa.

Massage rates run from 90 k to 120 k for the hour, happy ending is extra. I don't know if you'll be able to get much more, but the two times I've been getting the girls to come out to play took no effort at all. Girls I've seen there looked good.

Osteoknot
11-21-20, 16:27
As the time rolled into the new day one of the chicas finally ensnared him and a brief discussion led them to a waiting taxi.I posted before about cell phone theft out of a taxi. Lock your doors, keep your window mostly rolled up. The taxi driver could be delivering you to a prearranged snatch and grab of your cell phone as you sit in the taxi on your phone. If a chica is acting like she wants you to get in a specific taxi, get a different one.

Surfer500
11-21-20, 16:30
Alright boys, I'm planning a trip in the next few weeks. I'm Asian as * and speak absolutely 0 Spanish. Rather than furiously try to learn random words, does anyone have any tips on certain phrases I should know? Don't want to google translate my way through.

Also, is Parque Lleras as loud as everyone says it is? I'm thinking about staying in a hotel or airbnb in that area. As I RTFF, I'm realizing there's a lot of places that aren't chica friendly anymore. Do I just have to chance it?If it wasn't for the Pandemic, and you being an obvious foreigner, and that literally nobody speaks English, and that you have never been here before, and you speak no Spanish, I suggest you stay at the Mansion or whatever they call it these days, and if you venture out, hire a driver that speaks some English who can also look out for you.

I'm not inferring that your weak, or lame, or incapable of mongering in Medellin, but it is not going to be user friendly for you based on what you have shared personally about yourself and with the Pandemic going on.

I have a friend who is Asian I met with last week in Medellin staying until December. He has been several times in the past, rents a room in El Centro, and speaks a fair amount of Spanish so he fly's fine and is also aware that being an obvious foreigner that he has to keep his radar up, and he's staying in a Hotel right in El Centro by the Hotel Nuitibarra.

Again, I'm not saying your incapable of doing this, but for a first time foray it would be quite a challenge, hence I suggest you stay at the "gringo hotel" for your first trip if money is not an issue for you. Albeit it will be very expensive, but at least you will have somewhat of a safety net.

As an alternative, you might want to consider the DR, excellent time of year to be there, and much more user friendly than Colombia and safer for foreigners, but limited mongering venues.

Good Luck.

Surfer500
11-21-20, 16:45
Can someone tell me steps of balling. Like buying a bottle, the cost, what happens when the girl come over, do they drink off the bottle and expect you to by another. Does the bottle decrease her going home price. What do you do if they get drunk. When the night is over and you wake up in the morning is she expecting breakfast. What is total cost roughly. Is it worth it to take them home or schedule a meet for another day. Just curious. Newbies be sure to fuel up when you at lleras park or centro. You might be doing more walking than use to and get dehydrated.You never cease to amaze me. Some of your questions don't make any sense at all. The girls in Gusto are there to make money, get cash in their pockets after going with a guy. Buying drinks for them doesn't do that, and your not going to get a discount for buying all kinds of drinks. If anything, by buying lots of drinks, when it comes to a negotiation with them, if anything, they will jack their starting prices up if they see you shelling out big bucks for a bottle of booze. The girls in Gusto are there for immediate take-out, again to make money as quickly as possible. Again, I am perplexed by some of your questions, you pulled from there before while your "ex" was there so should know the score there.

JjBee62
11-21-20, 16:54
Can someone tell me steps of balling. Like buying a bottle, the cost, what happens when the girl come over, do they drink off the bottle and expect you to by another. Does the bottle decrease her going home price. What do you do if they get drunk. When the night is over and you wake up in the morning is she expecting breakfast. What is total cost roughly. Is it worth it to take them home or schedule a meet for another day. Just curious. Newbies be sure to fuel up when you at lleras park or centro. You might be doing more walking than use to and get dehydrated.Everyone wants that at some time in their life. They'll lie, but they know the truth. Everyone wants to sit upon the throne for one night, sharing the wealth of the kingdom and basking in the praise of their loyal subjects. Some have tried it and learned it's not worth it. Some get addicted to it.

Every hooker with a big score does it. They buy some bottles, call their friends and wake up in the morning broke and hungover. Which is why the next day they're on their back working for whatever they can get.

If you're asking how much it will cost, you're not ready for it. At least not at Gusto.

However, here's how it works:

Grab a waitress, point out the couch you want and she'll tell you the price. I doubt you're getting it without spending a minimum of $1,000. They'll bring your bottle, glasses, buckets of ice and mixers as required. They'll bring you girls, or keep away ones you lose interest in. They may or may not bring a fresh bottle whether or not you ask for it.

If a girl gets drunk you can have her taken away. I wouldn't advise taking her with you.

The bottle (s) don't decrease the girl's price. Consider it a really expensive handful of popcorn. You'll have to negotiate a deal with each girl. The more money you're spending at Gusto, the more money some of them will want. Some of them will actually drop their price. They're thinking to get 3 or 4 repeats from you.

In the morning, the girl or girls, if you didn't pick a bad one who conveniently had a family emergency 7 minutes after your first nut, will vary in what they want. Some will want to be paid so they can go home. Some "yo quiero que tu quieres papi."

You take the girls with you, at least the 1 or 2 you want. Collect what other numbers you want. Gratitude has a habit of disappearing quickly. Otherwise, all that money you invested is wasted.

If you're not prepared to spend at least $1500, it's not time yet.

JjBee62
11-21-20, 17:10
Four of us went to Fase Dos last night. Two of us arrived just before 10:30 and the last guy showed up just before midnight. Three of us left about 1:30.

Nobody pulled a girl at the club, and not sure if anyone verified the cost. 40-50 girls average between 6 and 7, depending on your taste. There was a wide variety of shapes and sizes including one who looked to be a true redhead.

I don't have much new information. The sign on the wall with prices seems outdated. I think they're charging 24 k for a beer now. Door charge is still 10 k. Temperature check, sanitizing and quick frisk required before entry.

If the rumor I heard, that onsite sessions are now 300 k, and you're looking for onsite, Barra Ejecutivo is a much better value. Although it was early when I went to Ejecutivo, I think the girls averaged better looking than Fase Dos.

Osteoknot
11-21-20, 18:13
Imagine then what type of cocaine we sniff in Europe and what kind of additives it contains and we still sniff it and pay 100 euros per gram for a percentage of 45% or 60% the maximum. I know it looks stupid doing something that eventually it will kill you, but cholesterol can kill you as well, smoking can kill you, alcohol can kill you.Alcohol, tobacco and cholesterol are probably more dangerous than cocaine. I know a couple of people with a daily, long term cocaine habit in Medellin. They seem pretty healthy and have lots of energy jajaja. They both use it to be more productive on their repetitive motion line jobs. I have to remind one of them to eat a little more sometimes to fatten up her ass jajaja. And you could also argue that her being employed with a manageable cocaine habit is probably better for her overall health than being unemployed and the lifestyle that goes along with that. Plus, she gets it for free.

Knowledge
11-21-20, 18:21
November and May are rainy season in the Valle de Aburra. This November has been unusually rainy. Daily showers and storms of up to several hours are normal. Sometimes it can rain almost non-stop for 48 to 72 hours. The weather you experienced during the quarantine is the norm outside of the rainy seasons.


I was not expecting that this trip..

Sangnyc21
11-21-20, 18:33
Can someone tell me steps of balling. Like buying a bottle, the cost, what happens when the girl come over, do they drink off the bottle and expect you to by another. Does the bottle decrease her going home price. What do you do if they get drunk. When the night is over and you wake up in the morning is she expecting breakfast. What is total cost roughly. Is it worth it to take them home or schedule a meet for another day. Just curious. Newbies be sure to fuel up when you at lleras park or centro. You might be doing more walking than use to and get dehydrated.Any booth comes with a 650 k fee.

Included is a bottle. If you buy a bottle for 200 k you're still paying 650 k.

So buy a bottle for 500-600 k.

The girls will take turns making rounds to be seen by you.

My suggestion walk around and maybe invite one or 2 girls over and negotiate when you think you've found the one.

Lately I bring normal girls to Gustos just to party and have fun and even though they all know it's putas in there I tell them I have a friend who works there since the whole staff will give me VIP treatment and I'll always cut the line.

Tbh I haven't pulled from there in my last 4 trips there.

But it's still a place I like to go to.

MiamiBoy1
11-21-20, 19:23
Any booth comes with a 650 k fee.

Included is a bottle. If you buy a bottle for 200 k you're still paying 650 k.

So buy a bottle for 500-600 k.

The girls will take turns making rounds to be seen by you.

My suggestion walk around and maybe invite one or 2 girls over and negotiate when you think you've found the one.

Lately I bring normal girls to Gustos just to party and have fun and even though they all know it's putas in there I tell them I have a friend who works there since the whole staff will give me VIP treatment and I'll always cut the line.

Tbh I haven't pulled from there in my last 4 trips there.

But it's still a place I like to go to.Is paying for the booth mandatory when you buy a bottle? Do they have regular high top tables?

JjBee62
11-21-20, 19:36
Is paying for the booth mandatory when you buy a bottle? Do they have regular high top tables?No. You can buy a bottle and not get a booth.

Yes, they have regular high tables and they'll evict someone who didn't buy a bottle if necessary to get you a table.

Sangnyc21
11-21-20, 19:49
Is paying for the booth mandatory when you buy a bottle? Do they have regular high top tables?On weekends high top tables are considered vip. However I think it's a bit cheaper. It really depends on how crowded it is. But on Saturday's it's most likely a VIP section. The only thing mandatory is paying cover. Even if you get a booth you have to pay cover.

Knowledge
11-21-20, 20:01
Uber, didi, indriver, even coopebombas all greatly decrease the potential for that sort of thing. That sort of thing does occur regularly. Sometimes the taxistas are in on it and sometimes they are not. Several of my locañ friends tell me San Diego is a hotspot for it, especially the side streets around Little Caracas.


I posted before about cell phone theft out of a taxi. Lock your doors, keep your window mostly rolled up. The taxi driver could be delivering you to a prearranged snatch and grab of your cell phone as you sit in the taxi on your phone. If a chica is acting like she wants you to get in a specific taxi, get a different one.

Surfer500
11-21-20, 20:56
Any booth comes with a 650 k fee.

Included is a bottle. If you buy a bottle for 200 k you're still paying 650 k.

So buy a bottle for 500-600 k.

The girls will take turns making rounds to be seen by you.

My suggestion walk around and maybe invite one or 2 girls over and negotiate when you think you've found the one.

Lately I bring normal girls to Gustos just to party and have fun and even though they all know it's putas in there I tell them I have a friend who works there since the whole staff will give me VIP treatment and I'll always cut the line.

Tbh I haven't pulled from there in my last 4 trips there.

But it's still a place I like to go to.I can see how Gusto's has it's place in Parque Lleras, and for guys coming down to monger for a short period of time with wads of cash, it's perfect, and in the scheme of things, perhaps not really all that expensive compared to other venues in the world. However, it definitely is a "higher end" mongering venue in Medellin, and although I can afford to roll in Gustos with a booth if I wanted to, it just doesn't appeal to me on many levels. Perhaps it's too predictable in some ways. I remember going to an FKK in Berlin and after paying 90 Euros left not partaking as I didn't like the setting, and how things worked. I basically went to experience it, yet it wasn't for me while other guys were lapping it up. Perhaps it's my age being an old fart, and it's a much younger crowd that frequents the place. Maybe it's trendy, the place to be seen, and do they really have the prettiest girls working there.

I have no idea what the allure of the place is, maybe someone can articulate this.

Blakman
11-21-20, 20:58
But sex and money is a universal language. I think if he knows is destination or have a snapshot of destination he can be fine. Use your translater but some chicas don't want to use translater intentionally to annoy you when they give bad service and want there money. Follow solid advices by the members. I did it so you will be fine.


If it wasn't for the Pandemic, and you being an obvious foreigner, and that literally nobody speaks English, and that you have never been here before, and you speak no Spanish, I suggest you stay at the Mansion or whatever they call it these days, and if you venture out, hire a driver that speaks some English who can also look out for you.

I'm not inferring that your weak, or lame, or incapable of mongering in Medellin, but it is not going to be user friendly for you based on what you have shared personally about yourself and with the Pandemic going on.

I have a friend who is Asian I met with last week in Medellin staying until December. He has been several times in the past, rents a room in El Centro, and speaks a fair amount of Spanish so he fly's fine and is also aware that being an obvious foreigner that he has to keep his radar up, and he's staying in a Hotel right in El Centro by the Hotel Nuitibarra.

Again, I'm not saying your incapable of doing this, but for a first time foray it would be quite a challenge, hence I suggest you stay at the "gringo hotel" for your first trip if money is not an issue for you. Albeit it will be very expensive, but at least you will have somewhat of a safety net.

As an alternative, you might want to consider the DR, excellent time of year to be there, and much more user friendly than Colombia and safer for foreigners, but limited mongering venues.

Good Luck..

Blakman
11-21-20, 21:02
I like that place but quarentine in March closed it. 300 k wow. Mucho. Jjbee karma is a *****. I am struggling with a stomach bug myself. But no temperature.


Four of us went to Fase Dos last night. Two of us arrived just before 10:30 and the last guy showed up just before midnight. Three of us left about 1:30.

Nobody pulled a girl at the club, and not sure if anyone verified the cost. 40-50 girls average between 6 and 7, depending on your taste. There was a wide variety of shapes and sizes including one who looked to be a true redhead.

I don't have much new information. The sign on the wall with prices seems outdated. I think they're charging 24 k for a beer now. Door charge is still 10 k. Temperature check, sanitizing and quick frisk required before entry.

If the rumor I heard, that onsite sessions are now 300 k, and you're looking for onsite, Barra Ejecutivo is a much better value. Although it was early when I went to Ejecutivo, I think the girls averaged better looking than Fase Dos..

Blakman
11-21-20, 21:08
I know you guys didn't think I would entertain balling at gusto. I just wanted details. Jjbee good post. I will never be ready. What you guys tell me is absurd. More power to the fellows who have it like that.


You never cease to amaze me. Some of your questions don't make any sense at all. The girls in Gusto are there to make money, get cash in their pockets after going with a guy. Buying drinks for them doesn't do that, and your not going to get a discount for buying all kinds of drinks. If anything, by buying lots of drinks, when it comes to a negotiation with them, if anything, they will jack their starting prices up if they see you shelling out big bucks for a bottle of booze. The girls in Gusto are there for immediate take-out, again to make money as quickly as possible. Again, I am perplexed by some of your questions, you pulled from there before while your "ex" was there so should know the score there..

Surfer500
11-21-20, 21:51
But sex and money is a universal language. I think if he knows is destination or have a snapshot of destination he can be fine. Use your translater but some chicas don't want to use translater intentionally to annoy you when they give bad service and want there money. Follow solid advices by the members. I did it so you will be fine..Sex and money since the beginning of time most definitely a universal language and I can understand your frustration with not understanding Spanish and the translator crap. Some guys will swear that they can operate just fine not speaking Spanish using a translator, but the truth is, it's a whole different world when you can speak the language.

Most of the issues and shit that the Chicas try to pull on guys who don't speak Spanish are way less, at least that's been my experience. I've been told I'm fluent in Spanish by other Colombians which honestly I find hard to believe at times because sometimes I can't understand some people and it's a function of their accent. I understand way more than I can say, maybe ten times as much and can carry on conversations on most topics, but flounder on the different tenses to use, but for some reason seem to always be able to get my point across, more so than some speakers who have all the tenses nailed meaning their booksmart, that's at least what a tutor told me.

Regardless, I think you have done quite well in Medellin with the Chicas you've written about in your posts having very limited Spanish speaking skills, a lot of times it's not how much you can say, but the timing of when to say things to the Chicas, albeit it may be garbled.

Wolf662
11-21-20, 22:29
lots rain, I was not expecting that this trip..The avg rainfall per month in Medellin.

ColombiaLover
11-21-20, 23:07
Ready for my annual Thanksgiving trip to MDE for a week. Followed by another week of so in early December. I am still working on the non-pro pipeline. Once you get on the right track and realize what they girls want (and not all of them just want money). It's not that hard. You just need patience. These chicas enjoy sex and they want sex where the guy pays attention to their needs and not just their own. They seem to appreciate it when someone pays attention to them and is nice to them.

That said, I do miss some of the pros. Not the hard-core pros or the ghetto girls, but the regular "pros" from facebook. I have a few new ones I hope to see and if a few slots open up, a couple I've seen before. I will definitely report on anyone I can share. Good, bad, or indifferent. And I'll also let you know what I'm seeing on la 70 and in Lleras. Not sure that I'm ready to go back to the barrios to party. Not just yet. But just happy to be going back to MDE and not have to worry about a COVID test coming in on time. As I left last time, there were rumors of the border being closed again. Glad that's not the case. At least not yet.

ColombiaLover
11-21-20, 23:09
Yep. Rain will start to slow down now. Should be nice for the holidays! Always had good weather when I've been there in December and January.


The avg rainfall per month in Medellin.

ColombiaLover
11-21-20, 23:14
I'm with you, Blakman. The stories of Gustos are insane. Great place for someone who only has a few days and will probably never go again. Otherwise, I don't see the point. Overpriced. Drinks and girls. Girls are not that impressive IMO. I've had more fun in Lleras Park (disc) and Lleras Town. Actually, best bet is to skip Lleras all together and go to La 70 or La 33. And skip La Isla and Fase II. If you must, wait until after hours and go to the clubs where the strippers go to party. I've done that once or twice and had a great time. Strippers get horny too.


I know you guys didn't think I would entertain balling at gusto. I just wanted details. Jjbee good post. I will never be ready. What you guys tell me is absurd. More power to the fellows who have it like that....

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Sangnyc21
11-21-20, 23:36
90% of the girls in Gustos are not worth 200-300 usd. I've learned this on my first few trips to Medellin.

However I love to party sometimes on the weekends and Gustos is my spot for comfort.

I'll bring reg dates there and pop bottles and have fun cause once in a while that's my thing.

But for me the thrill is every once in a while you'll find a gem.

The 8's or 9's. It's rare indeed but most prepagos know this is where the gringo $$$ is.

Word gets around and you'll see all types of girls come in here.

I've had a bang bros porn star, a Venezuelan model or so she says and a couple other physically hot girls.

But my last 4 or 5 trips I didn't pull anything.

I would honestly say the top tier girls of medellin would be found here if they are out looking for a payday.

But is it worth it as far as the sex?? No. My most satisfying sexual experiences come from fb girls and non pros.

But as Colombia Lover says it is over priced. But this is what draws a lot of girls as well. Knowing the gringos who don't mind overpaying is here.

PussyRiot
11-21-20, 23:55
Actually, best bet is to skip Lleras all together and go to La 70 or La 33. And skip La Isla and Fase II. Would you mind sharing some spots in La 70 or La 33?

Njoean197
11-22-20, 01:33
90% of the girls in Gustos are not worth 200-300 usd. I've learned this on my first few trips to Medellin.

However I love to party sometimes on the weekends and Gustos is my spot for comfort.

I'll bring reg dates there and pop bottles and have fun cause once in a while that's my thing.

But for me the thrill is every once in a while you'll find a gem.

The 8's or 9's. It's rare indeed but most prepagos know this is where the gringo $$$ is.

Word gets around and you'll see all types of girls come in here.

I've had a bang bros porn star, a Venezuelan model or so she says and a couple other physically hot girls.

But my last 4 or 5 trips I didn't pull anything.

I would honestly say the top tier girls of medellin would be found here if they are out looking for a payday.

But is it worth it as far as the sex?? No. My most satisfying sexual experiences come from fb girls and non pros.

But as Colombia Lover says it is over priced. But this is what draws a lot of girls as well. Knowing the gringos who don't mind overpaying is here.I was in Medellin at the end of December last year and I think I spent 3 or 4 nights in and around Gustos. Just like others have said, Gustos is over priced compared to the girls you can pick up right outside and even the bar down the street from Gustos. I think it was actually called Parque Lleras, the girls were quite comparable to the level of talent as the Gustos girls, but they were only asking for 200 k a pop and you could talk them down to 150,000 if you really had to most of the time. The Gustos girls were asking 450 k and I only took two girls out of there compared to the 4-5 I got out of Lleras park in General. The girls I got out of Gustos on my personal scale were high 8's, maybe even a low 9 and provided great service, but drove a very hard bargain and did not budge on price. I was in Medellin for only 9-10 days, so to me it was worth it. Even the next day the one gusto's girl would not come down to 200,000 for a daytime session. I am in my late 30's and I still enjoy a club / bar scene some nights, so personally I like Gustos alot and I absolutely love Parque Lleras. Place was fuckin fun as hell pre-covid. I also checked out Face Dos one night, and there was some awesome talent in there, but I didn't jump on anything as the night was young and I wasn't ready to commit. A semi-secret gem in Medellin was the after hours strip club, fucked a gorgeous stripper in there at around 5-6 am One night for 200 k. I got to research the name of the place but it had alot of talent in there and girls were only asking 200 k. I never made it to La 70 or La 33 as I was having a great time in and around Parque Lleras. I am returning again at the end of December and hopefully I ll have time to check out more places. Personally I highly recommend Gustos if you haven't had the experience and your budget can facilitate paying top dollar. If your a seasoned vet in the monger game, Gustos may be a waste of your time as there is much cheaper options for close to the same talent. I am currently trying to meet girls on SA because I don't have FB and I am too lazy to make a FB just to score wgs in Medellin. I ll give SA a try and I am definately going to check out La 70 and La 33 and I ll do a review on what I see there as well. I hit the clubs in Parque Lleras up and I didn't pull anything for free, but still had a lot fun and in general, Colombians were pretty friendly and cool. Honestly, the wgs are so hot, cheap, and provide such great service, its really not that big of a deal to focus on non-pros because the pros are pretty fuckin awesome.

SpiderRider
11-22-20, 01:48
I was not expecting that this trip.

.November is peak of the rainy season. Expect the expected.

SpiderRider
11-22-20, 01:52
Would you mind sharing some spots in La 70 or La 33?Both strips, la 33, and la 70 are good fun. But, bring a date. There are few, if any girls looking for action with foreigners there. Lots of bars, easy to see where the crowds are drawn to. Its Colombians partying with Colombians, the Colombian way.

Osteoknot
11-22-20, 02:11
Sex and money since the beginning of time most definitely a universal language and I can understand your frustration with not understanding Spanish and the translator crap. Some guys will swear that they can operate just fine not speaking Spanish using a translator, but the truth is, it's a whole different world when you can speak the language.

Most of the issues and shit that the Chicas try to pull on guys who don't speak Spanish are way less, at least that's been my experience. I've been told I'm fluent in Spanish by other Colombians which honestly I find hard to believe at times because sometimes I can't understand some people and it's a function of their accent. I understand way more than I can say, maybe ten times as much and can carry on conversations on most topics, but flounder on the different tenses to use, but for some reason seem to always be able to get my point across, more so than some speakers who have all the tenses nailed meaning their booksmart, that's at least what a tutor told me.

Regardless, I think you have done quite well in Medellin with the Chicas you've written about in your posts having very limited Spanish speaking skills, a lot of times it's not how much you can say, but the timing of when to say things to the Chicas, albeit it may be garbled.But learning Spanish improves access and quality of the encounters as much as any factor I can think of, including money, IMO. My Spanish skills sound about the same as yours. The Spanish I have learned has probably paid more dividends than any other single effort I have made with the chicas. In fact, I dream of the day when I will be truly fluent in Spanish and how that will further enhance my Colombian lifestyle. A milestone for me was when could leave my phone behind and not feel panic inside without access to Google Translate, jaja. Sure, learning Spanish may not be practical for a one time short term visit but even then, if you know ahead of time about your trip here, 20 minutes a day on the free app Duolingo is more than worth it.

Osteoknot
11-22-20, 02:32
November and May are rainy season in the Valle de Aburra. This November has been unusually rainy. Daily showers and storms of up to several hours are normal. Sometimes it can rain almost non-stop for 48 to 72 hours. The weather you experienced during the quarantine is the norm outside of the rainy seasons.And the saying is true, "A street puta would rather go to the dentist than get her hair wet" jajajaja. Trying to find a street girl after a rain storm is futile. Where do they all go?

The foto is Medellin, and that "faucet" style of rainstorm is not unusual. The clouds develop high pressure as they roll up the mountains and then as soon as they cross over the peaks into the valley that is Medellin, the sudden pressure drop releases the water like, well look at the foto.

You can be on the opposite side of the valley and the sun might be shining while you watch one of these babies.

Yetiecv
11-22-20, 02:40
Man,

I post every once in awhile, but mainly just lurk. I'm just here reading, envious of everyone because my next trip isn't until February. I'll be there for a month and trying to figure out where to stay due to covid. With every day changing, who knows where we will be at the end of January / early February.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 02:42
I guess I have the best of both worlds in Medellin.

I have a nice place to chill with a Chica for a few days at a time in Poblado when I want, getting to blow loads whenever I want, especially early in the morning, at happy hour during Sunset, before bedtime, and when I don't have a Chica at my place, I do bombing runs in El Centro.

Last week was terrific, some days I would hit El Centro early in the morning and in the afternoon after a workout and then do some fine dining in Poblado, and other days would be sequestered in my place with my Nympho, playing house at times, cooking meals, drinking wine, and banging up in the Terazza bedroom besides the master bedroom.

Perhaps I'm a contradiction, being a dumpster diver in El Centro, yet an inhabitant of Poblado.

I have dined in Poblado in the past spending upwards of $ 80 USD for a fine dinner with wines, yet just a few hours before dinner spending $ 10 to 15 USD banging a Chica in El Centro to get my appetite up before dinner.

Maybe this is a strange picture for some, yet it's how I roll, and had been for the three years before the Pandemic.I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the price has very little to do with your love of being a Centro rat. It's the thrill of the hunt, the walk on the dark side. Paying a chica to come over is normal, vanilla and there's no thrill, but grabbing a sweetie from the street is taboo, with just a whiff of danger.

Seems perfectly normal to me.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 02:51
Uber, didi, indriver, even coopebombas all greatly decrease the potential for that sort of thing. That sort of thing does occur regularly. Sometimes the taxistas are in on it and sometimes they are not. Several of my loca friends tell me San Diego is a hotspot for it, especially the side streets around Little Caracas.I've seen girls before riding around Parque Lleras in a taxi trying to get gringos in the taxi. I'd definitely steer clear of that.

I've almost always had good luck walking out of Parque Lleras on Calle 9 and grabbing a taxi in front of Parque Poblado.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 02:55
I like that place but quarentine in March closed it. 300 k wow. Mucho. Jjbee karma is a *****. I am struggling with a stomach bug myself. But no temperature..Did you get some bad popcorn? Hope you're back on fighting condition quick. Watermelon juice is good to keep you hydrated and it's easy on the stomach. Sandia in Spanish.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 02:58
Sex and money since the beginning of time most definitely a universal language and I can understand your frustration with not understanding Spanish and the translator crap. Some guys will swear that they can operate just fine not speaking Spanish using a translator, but the truth is, it's a whole different world when you can speak the language.

Most of the issues and shit that the Chicas try to pull on guys who don't speak Spanish are way less, at least that's been my experience. I've been told I'm fluent in Spanish by other Colombians which honestly I find hard to believe at times because sometimes I can't understand some people and it's a function of their accent. I understand way more than I can say, maybe ten times as much and can carry on conversations on most topics, but flounder on the different tenses to use, but for some reason seem to always be able to get my point across, more so than some speakers who have all the tenses nailed meaning their booksmart, that's at least what a tutor told me.

Regardless, I think you have done quite well in Medellin with the Chicas you've written about in your posts having very limited Spanish speaking skills, a lot of times it's not how much you can say, but the timing of when to say things to the Chicas, albeit it may be garbled.I have most of the tenses down, although I occasionally get befuddled, however, the more important part is having the vocabulary to go with it. That's where most of my problem is, not being able to remember the right word.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 03:03
I'm with you, Blakman. The stories of Gustos are insane. Great place for someone who only has a few days and will probably never go again. Otherwise, I don't see the point. Overpriced. Drinks and girls. Girls are not that impressive IMO. I've had more fun in Lleras Park (disc) and Lleras Town. Actually, best bet is to skip Lleras all together and go to La 70 or La 33. And skip La Isla and Fase II. If you must, wait until after hours and go to the clubs where the strippers go to party. I've done that once or twice and had a great time. Strippers get horny too.If you're going for cocktails El Botanico on Carrera 33 (not to be confused with La Botanika) makes drinks that will bring tears of joy to your eyes and they're cheaper than Gusto. Plus the food is absolutely fantastic.

Mcd2293
11-22-20, 03:09
Yep. Rain will start to slow down now. Should be nice for the holidays! Always had good weather when I've been there in December and January.Rain has been going crazy this whole week. I'm hoping it slows down as I have just only another day or two before I head to Bogota. Never been to Bogota, but I hear it's cold and depressing LOL.

Bmore07
11-22-20, 03:15
The rumor has Colombia going into another quarantine. I'd prefer not to get stuck. Have a friend whovot stuck in Italy for 4 months. Anyone else hearing about another shut down?

Knowledge
11-22-20, 03:38
I knew where you were coming from Blakman. From the outside looking in it is hard to reconcile the Gustos phenomenon. For a Centro rat it is especially hard. All the same it is normal to be curious but that doesn't mean we want to get involved. For me popcorn is more sane than popping bottles.


I know you guys didn't think I would entertain balling at gusto. I just wanted details. Jjbee good post. I will never be ready. What you guys tell me is absurd. More power to the fellows who have it like that..

Osteoknot
11-22-20, 03:47
My tall, brunette, heavenly walks in, and leads me to the room. Finally got the chance to look at her up close. She's a paisa through and through, you don't even have to ask.Entertaining. I am not questioning the veracity of your Report, but I thought "tall" and "Paisa" were mutually exclusive terms. I randomly tagged five Paisas in a row in Medellin and not one of them was over 5 feet tall.

Knowledge
11-22-20, 04:25
Spanish is useful and convenient in Colombia but not necessary for leisure purposes. It is an advantage but not a deal maker or deal breaker. On websites like this one you will often see statements along the lines of "no one speaks English in Colombia". Of course that is not true across the board. Very few of the providers and their support personnel we interact with as punters speak English but it is extremely rare to encounter a white collar professional in Colombia who does not have at least intermediate level English. It is generally a non-negotiable requirement for any salaried employees above entry level of major companies. Especially foreign owned companies.


Sex and money since the beginning of time most definitely a universal language and I can understand your frustration with not understanding Spanish and the translator crap. Some guys will swear that they can operate just fine not speaking Spanish using a translator, but the truth is, it's a whole different world when you can speak the language.

Most of the issues and shit that the Chicas try to pull on guys who don't speak Spanish are way less, at least that's been my experience. I've been told I'm fluent in Spanish by other Colombians which honestly I find hard to believe at times because sometimes I can't understand some people and it's a function of their accent. I understand way more than I can say, maybe ten times as much and can carry on conversations on most topics, but flounder on the different tenses to use, but for some reason seem to always be able to get my point across, more so than some speakers who have all the tenses nailed meaning their booksmart, that's at least what a tutor told me..

Knowledge
11-22-20, 06:13
Luna Lunera is on 33, no need to bring a date there.


Both strips, la 33, and la 70 are good fun. But, bring a date. There are few, if any girls looking for action with foreigners there. Lots of bars, easy to see where the crowds are drawn to. Its Colombians partying with Colombians, the Colombian way.

Blakman
11-22-20, 13:03
When I walk in I see 2 stunning tall chocalate girls. I have never seen chocolate girls in gusto so I am wonder are they tourist as well. I also notice my 8th.

Pretty face. Looks a little pudgy tonight she's smiling. She's an old 6 tonight. I decide to buy her a drink. Step number one to balling LOL. Tequila 43 k. 57 k more and I am fucking a girl for 3 hrs. Balling days are over. I leave her alone. She text me says she wants to be with me tomorrow. Its not packed. And its a bad mix of gorditos and a few hot ones. In all Honesty, Gusto nightlife does not compare to Classico the. D.R, Clubs in Pattaya / Thailand. Anyways I am window shopping and I get one of the chocolate girl number. I am willing to pay 300 k for each of them that's how legit they look. Later she text me to by a drink. I text back when we meet. I know that probably kills the possibility. But I am not into paying for drinks then paying more for your time. I can use that money to buy liquor at the house. Anyways what I notice some girls are in Gustos and lleras park club working then the next week they are walking in lleras park. Guess they got the boot from the owners. I found that interesting. I was feeling better but not quite over my bug so I just wanted to get home and sleep. Got in cab the end.

Mr Enternational
11-22-20, 13:47
I decide to buy her a drink. Step number one to balling LOL. Tequila 43 k. Damn. When Sang said drinks were expensive I thought he was bullshitting. Last time I was in Gustos like 2 years ago drinks were half that price.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 14:43
Los Tres Jotas, and I'm only one of those J's, visited La Isla last night, as part of the final night of my trip. The earlier parts will get a separate report.

We arrived using Didi around 10:15 pm, which is an ideal time if you're planning on buying a bottle and spending some time, rather than just grabbing a girl. Your chances of getting a good table are much better.

Entry procedure requires hand sanitizer, temperature check, frisk and paying the 20 k per person door fee, after which you're met by a waiter who will help with your table selection. Ours was in the corner, next to the stage, close to the doors leading up to the rooms, a good spot.

Initially every other seating area was closed off, keeping distancing between groups, but that ended once the club filled. By the time we were ready to go, about 2:30, we had received a few offers to buy our table.

Inside the club is much nicer than Fase Dos. The seats are comfortable the ambiance and lighting are excellent and the service is top notch. Just raise your hand and Freddy, or whoever your waiter is, will be right over. At Fase Dos, if you want service you need to first sacrifice a live chicken to the gods.

The music was much better than Fase Dos, better music means better dancers.

Overall the girls were better than Fase Dos, although we saw a few of the same girls at each club. However, there were a few that should be retired. Take a pretty girl, add a cheap boob job, a cheap butt job and cheap tattoos and no thanks.

Two of us took girls up to the rooms. Mine was a short girl with a bit of meat to her, one of the better looking boob jobs, but still not good and no tattoos. No GFE, CBJ, rushed from the beginning. She had done some coke, I know the signs, before we went up. Overall she was decent, but ends up on the bottom spot for my trip. Everything was too mechanical, too rushed. Price was 300 k all in.

I'd guess over 100 girls were there by the time we left and seemed the best ones arrived after 1 am.

Total for a bottle of Ron Medellin 5 years, 6 mixers and 5 lady drinks was 570 k, tip is not included. Freddy earned a 100 k tip and he was happy to get it. Lady drinks were 25 k each.

Crowd at La Isla was about 80% gringo. Fase Dos was 20% gringo.

There are 2 areas where Fase Dos beats La Isla, since prices are now the same. If you want to buy one coke and sit for 3 hours at Fase Dos, you can do that. Often it's a requirement, since it might take that long to get a second coke.

The real place where Fase Dos shines, the rooms. The rooms at Fase Dos are much nicer, much more comfortable and have hot water. La Isla didn't even have hot water and the rooms were smaller than many of the El Centro casas. At least they were clean.

Overall La Isla is a top notch club with a good offering of girls. The only weak spot was the rooms.

Surfer500
11-22-20, 17:01
When I walk in I see 2 stunning tall chocalate girls. I have never seen chocolate girls in gusto so I am wonder are they tourist as well. I also notice my 8th.

Pretty face. Looks a little pudgy tonight she's smiling. She's an old 6 tonight. I decide to buy her a drink. Step number one to balling LOL. Tequila 43 k. 57 k more and I am fucking a girl for 3 hrs. Balling days are over. I leave her alone. She text me says she wants to be with me tomorrow. Its not packed. And its a bad mix of gorditos and a few hot ones. In all Honesty, Gusto nightlife does not compare to Classico the. D.R, Clubs in Pattaya / Thailand. Anyways I am window shopping and I get one of the chocolate girl number. I am willing to pay 300 k for each of them that's how legit they look. Later she text me to by a drink. I text back when we meet. I know that probably kills the possibility. But I am not into paying for drinks then paying more for your time. I can use that money to buy liquor at the house. Anyways what I notice some girls are in Gustos and lleras park club working then the next week they are walking in lleras park. Guess they got the boot from the owners. I found that interesting. I was feeling better but not quite over my bug so I just wanted to get home and sleep. Got in cab the end.I'm going to have to assume the only reason you go into Gusto's is because your close by, and just for the eye candy, which there doesn't seem to be much of. And two chocolate girls that are tourists in Gustos, that's funny, and I suppose they might be tourists coming from perhaps the Northern coast of Colombia to work, that would be my bet, especially a pair making the rounds together.

Why don't you try some other places like Fase Dos for a change, or even some of the Clubs in El Centro at Avenida De La Grief to compare to what you've been seeing in Gustos and at LLeras.

Knowledge
11-22-20, 17:05
Gustos is a classic tourist trap.


Damn. When Sang said drinks were expensive I thought he was bullshitting. Last time I was in Gustos like 2 years ago drinks were half that price.

MiamiBoy1
11-22-20, 17:24
Damn. When Sang said drinks were expensive I thought he was bullshitting. Last time I was in Gustos like 2 years ago drinks were half that price.Makes sense to get a bottle for 200 k then.

Many of you guys mentioned after hours places where strippers like to hang out and prices are reasonable. Would you care to share? Are those places open late during the pandemic? Seems like everything is shut down at 2 am or so.

Sangnyc21
11-22-20, 17:42
Damn. When Sang said drinks were expensive I thought he was bullshitting. Last time I was in Gustos like 2 years ago drinks were half that price.Gustos 2 years ago was completely different.

Right before COVID the weekends were comparable to Classico in DR with better overall talent.

They didn't have the mandatory 650 k charge for the booth as they do now.

Also remember one thing guys, Thursday- Saturday the girls have to pay 20 k to enter as well.

So when you add that in with taxi it can add up for their standards.

So this is why sometimes girls won't come here if they haven't pulled a customer in a while.

But a few hot ones will always keep coming and banking.

Sangnyc21
11-22-20, 17:45
Makes sense to get a bottle for 200 k then.

Many of you guys mentioned after hours places where strippers like to hang out and prices are reasonable. Would you care to share? Are those places open late during the pandemic? Seems like everything is shut down at 2 am or so.The after hours parties for exclusively strippers and hookers are expensive.

That would be Faisan and Paradise.

However other spots like Seven and Farenheit are not as. However lots of locals. And the crowd is like a high school crowd. Totally not my scene.

Blakman
11-22-20, 18:08
Seem like a hole in the wall party that will try to charge foreignors a lot for drinks. I saw mostly siliconas. Another foreign guy Loved it. I didn't see it worth my time. Alot is overhyped. If you are a drug guy you will feel comfortable. I vouch for fase dos as a nice spot to view girls, Gusto cause you are not pressured to buy drinks, lleras park cause its free, energy life because atmosphere seems cool. I have to give it a try. Those are some.


The after hours parties for exclusively strippers and hookers are expensive.

That would be Faisan and Paradise.

However other spots like Seven and Farenheit are not as. However lots of locals. And the crowd is like a high school crowd. Totally not my scene..

Admin2
11-22-20, 18:19
The rumor has Colombia going into another quarantine. I'd prefer not to get stuck. Have a friend whovot stuck in Italy for 4 months. Anyone else hearing about another shut down?Because the economy here is really fucking wrecked but there seems to be no end of stupidity when it comes to locking down.

I have been asking random Colombians, hookers, my trainer, taxi and uber guys what they think the overall case fatality rate is for covid and all of them (maybe 15-20 people, so not a huge sample) say 20-25% they honestly think that for every 4-5 confirmed cases one person dies.

I'm here until it's over and I'm prepared for a lockdown but my thinking is find the place you want to be until April and stay there, especially in the Northern Hemisphere because they aren't giving any notice.

Blakman
11-22-20, 18:20
Short woman and small breast. But in the casas you can find tall black or brunette woman. I always ask. Cuanto mides?


Entertaining. I am not questioning the veracity of your Report, but I thought "tall" and "Paisa" were mutually exclusive terms. I randomly tagged five Paisas in a row in Medellin and not one of them was over 5 feet tall..

Blakman
11-22-20, 18:23
Sisters from Cartegena. I knew they were not from medellin. These are wow girls.


When I walk in I see 2 stunning tall chocalate girls. I have never seen chocolate girls in gusto so I am wonder are they tourist as well. I also notice my 8th.

Pretty face. Looks a little pudgy tonight she's smiling. She's an old 6 tonight. I decide to buy her a drink. Step number one to balling LOL. Tequila 43 k. 57 k more and I am fucking a girl for 3 hrs. Balling days are over. I leave her alone. She text me says she wants to be with me tomorrow. Its not packed. And its a bad mix of gorditos and a few hot ones. In all Honesty, Gusto nightlife does not compare to Classico the. D.R, Clubs in Pattaya / Thailand. Anyways I am window shopping and I get one of the chocolate girl number. I am willing to pay 300 k for each of them that's how legit they look. Later she text me to by a drink. I text back when we meet. I know that probably kills the possibility. But I am not into paying for drinks then paying more for your time. I can use that money to buy liquor at the house. Anyways what I notice some girls are in Gustos and lleras park club working then the next week they are walking in lleras park. Guess they got the boot from the owners. I found that interesting. I was feeling better but not quite over my bug so I just wanted to get home and sleep. Got in cab the end..

Surfer500
11-22-20, 18:50
I have most of the tenses down, although I occasionally get befuddled, however, the more important part is having the vocabulary to go with it. That's where most of my problem is, not being able to remember the right word.That's interesting, finding the right words, meaning having a good vocabulary of words which I do isn't the problem for me but the tenses. And all the "dichos" or sayings that people use which won't be found in books. I also struggle at times with the pronunciation or that there may be four different words that can be used for something. And how about when to use "por" or "para", another set of rules apply to their use as well. Por and para also one of the words for "for" in English, yet por is used in the past when as an example thanking someone for their help, gracias por su ayuda, yet por is also used in a numbers terms like por dia o hora, so many "reglas" to learn as the fluent speakers on this board know.

Osteoknot
11-22-20, 18:57
Spanish is useful and convenient in Colombia but not necessary for leisure purposes. It is an advantage but not a deal maker or deal breaker. On websites like this one you will often see statements along the lines of "no one speaks English in Colombia". Of course that is not true across the board. Very few of the providers and their support personnel we interact with as punters speak English but it is extremely rare to encounter a white collar professional in Colombia who does not have at least intermediate level English. It is generally a non-negotiable requirement for any salaried employees above entry level of major companies. Especially foreign owned companies.Car lot and coming home with a Hooptie for which you overpaid, or a great deal on a low-mileage newer car in great condition. Alright, that's an exaggeration because it is possible to get great girls without knowing the language, but it will take you five times the effort.

Surfer500
11-22-20, 19:19
Spanish is useful and convenient in Colombia but not necessary for leisure purposes. It is an advantage but not a deal maker or deal breaker. On websites like this one you will often see statements along the lines of "no one speaks English in Colombia". Of course that is not true across the board. Very few of the providers and their support personnel we interact with as punters speak English but it is extremely rare to encounter a white collar professional in Colombia who does not have at least intermediate level English. It is generally a non-negotiable requirement for any salaried employees above entry level of major companies. Especially foreign owned companies.Interesting perspective on who does, and does not speak English in Colombia. Seems that most of the younger professionals speak some, yet in my business dealings in Colombia which included architects, civil / structural engineers, accountants, none of them spoke any English, nor did I ever encounter but one or two people at Bancolombia or Claro which I had a lot of interaction with who spoke English. Additionally I purchased lots of materials from Homecenter and from other construction suppliers in Medellin and rarely encountered anyone who spoke English. So based on my personal business dealings that is my perspective.

I agree with you that for tourist / leisure activities it is not necessary, yet I see it as an impediment for mongers which was the point of my original post.

As an example as lot of Chicas will come up with "bullshit" excuses as to why they have to leave early, or need more money, or there may be an interaction with someone else like say a taxi driver or Portero or whatever, which may severely handicap the monger who doesn't understand what is being said. Hence if he understood he could question the veracity of things.

I guess I failed to accurately articulate this in my post.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 19:27
But learning Spanish improves access and quality of the encounters as much as any factor I can think of, including money, IMO. My Spanish skills sound about the same as yours. The Spanish I have learned has probably paid more dividends than any other single effort I have made with the chicas. In fact, I dream of the day when I will be truly fluent in Spanish and how that will further enhance my Colombian lifestyle. A milestone for me was when could leave my phone behind and not feel panic inside without access to Google Translate, jaja. Sure, learning Spanish may not be practical for a one time short term visit but even then, if you know ahead of time about your trip here, 20 minutes a day on the free app Duolingo is more than worth it.I pulled my phone out twice to translate this trip. Once to look up a single word, the other time for a sentence I had right, but the guy couldn't hear me through my mask.

JjBee62
11-22-20, 19:28
Entertaining. I am not questioning the veracity of your Report, but I thought "tall" and "Paisa" were mutually exclusive terms. I randomly tagged five Paisas in a row in Medellin and not one of them was over 5 feet tall.I know a few who are at least 5'9", but I'm plenty happy with the 5'0" girls.

Osteoknot
11-22-20, 19:32
Gustos is a classic tourist trap.And after reading the posts here, no future plans to go to Gustos. Personal preference, sounds like some guys had great times there and I fault no one for that. My Numero Uno novia Catgirl loves places like that, partly because she is bisexual and because she gets turned on by spending money and leaving big tips. Yet another good reason for me not to go there, jajaja.

Knowledge
11-22-20, 19:41
It could happen. I guess everyone has to weigh their options and decide for themselves.


Because the economy here is really fucking wrecked but there seems to be no end of stupidity when it comes to locking down.

I have been asking random Colombians, hookers, my trainer, taxi and uber guys what they think the overall case fatality rate is for covid and all of them (maybe 15-20 people, so not a huge sample) say 20-25% they honestly think that for every 4-5 confirmed cases one person dies.

I'm here until it's over and I'm prepared for a lockdown but my thinking is find the place you want to be until April and stay there, especially in the Northern Hemisphere because they aren't giving any notice.

Knowledge
11-22-20, 19:50
Tenses are the bomb.com .

Translate: I already knew the information when he began explaining.

Hint: Ya había sabido los datos cuándo él se puso a explicar.


I have most of the tenses down, although I occasionally get befuddled, however, the more important part is having the vocabulary to go with it. That's where most of my problem is, not being able to remember the right word.

Blakman
11-22-20, 19:52
You walk up to a puta show 300 mil to my house on your translater and off you go.


Car lot and coming home with a Hooptie for which you overpaid, or a great deal on a low-mileage newer car in great condition. Alright, that's an exaggeration because it is possible to get great girls without knowing the language, but it will take you five times the effort..

JjBee62
11-22-20, 19:59
Although I woke up feeling like crap yesterday, once my medications kicked in I got some energy back and put together a game plan. First order of business was to wake up my two other Musketeers and get a schedule set.

By 2:30 we were all together at Santa Fe mall, drinking some body fuel from Cosecha. We were going to need it because our first event was Kart racing in the bottom level of Santa Fe mall. I believe it's on sublevel 6. There's an Xtreme Karts location down there with fast (about 40 mph), electric carts. Price is 20 k for a 5 minute race. That might seem like a short time until you do it. You're going to work up a sweat and get a workout.

We ended up running 2 races. I'll let Chobomat and Racshack tell you who won. Seriously, for 20 k it's quite an exciting ride. I had to tell Racshack, if he was going to keep tapping my ass like that, he could at least pull my hair.

After a cooldown period and another visit to Cosecha for some juice for me, while the others went to Tostao for coffee, we made our way to Provenza and El Botanico restaurant. El Botanico is a bit pricey. We ended up paying 200 k each, with a small extra tip. 3 entrees, 3 appetizers and 2 signature cocktails each, plus a beer. Everything was excellent, including the service. It's a great place to be able to relax and talk with friends, or to take a date.

The finish to the night I've already posted. Now I'm about ready to board my flight. I'll post some final thoughts later.

Rextor
11-22-20, 20:37
a waiter who will help with your table selection. Ours was in the corner, next to the stage, close to the doors leading up to the rooms, a good spot. Hey,

I was at La Isla yesterday too. Were y'all the crowd that included one fairly young looking Asian gentleman? I think I was sitting behind you guys haha.

Combo
11-22-20, 20:45
The rumor has Colombia going into another quarantine. I'd prefer not to get stuck. Have a friend whovot stuck in Italy for 4 months. Anyone else hearing about another shut down?This would be important news for many of us. I have a trip in two weeks, but I can't risk getting stuck there so it may not happen.

Knowledge
11-22-20, 20:50
It is a recurring theme on websites like this one. The most basic simple facts are fuel for pages and pages of fear, uncertainty and doubt.


You walk up to a puta show 300 mil to my house on your translater and off you go..

Rextor
11-22-20, 20:56
This would be important news for many of us. I have a trip in two weeks, but I can't risk getting stuck there so it may not happen.I don't think it's going to happen. There's a video from Duque saying that it would be economic and social suicide. Besides the pandemic seems to be under some semblance of control (or at least it's not running rampage). There's was a little spike in cases a few weeks ago but even that seems to be receding.

Not to say that it won't ever happen, but in two weeks seems unlikely. At least I hope so because I'm in Colombian until then haha.

Balboa
11-22-20, 21:13
You walk up to a puta show 300 mil to my house on your translater and off you go.

.Not really though.

Anyone who speaks the local lingo, know how much better the price and the experience can be.

Common sense really.

Of course you can get by with your Translator.

All transactional and that's great.

Just not as great, LOL.

DoneDeal
11-22-20, 21:21
Went back to Energy Fantasia Spa. Decent lineup. I went with the penultimate girl that walked in: probably a 6. 5, but her attitude seemed a solid 9. She was chipper, flicking her her and stuff when she did the walk, as if she's really trying to land my business. I appreciated that, and chose her. 140 k, one hour.

Based on JjBee's tip, I asked the madam for a room with hot water. My lady led me to the room. She threw on some reggaeton. She started dancing, and she's buzzing while she's doing it. All from the heart with this gal. And her bottom is. Let me just say generous. Perfectly round. Not hard, and has a few birthmarks on it that may turn somebody off, but I loved it. Turned out to not even be fake. Tatas are fake, see-cups, non-intrusive. I kept on the boxers and had her keep on the lingerie. We chatted for 10 minutes. Talked about travel, food, stuff. Then she slipped her hand below boxers and began massaging the wolf. He rose to salute her. 10 minutes there. Then she got up to get the condom.

She did this move that I haven't seen other chicks do: she took out a Halls, and began sucking on it before going down on me. Apparently the menthol or whatever is felt on your old friend as well. Felt it especially later when I was hitting it. Weird, but cool.

I went with sideways first. Great mirrors. And she's surprisingly tight. And she's a sweetheart. Another position. Then I went to my favorite: she belly down all the way, and I from behind. Man, that ass feels like something. Few minutes in and the wolf was howling. Hot shower. She's very, very lovely. Has a sweet smile, dimples and a gleam in her eye. Grabbed her number. Told her next time, mismo deniro, pero en mi casa. She's into it.

Uber back, couple of tacos in Provenza, walked through Lleras back to my spot. Surprisingly minimal amount of chicas went I walked through, around 10 pm.

DoneDeal
11-22-20, 21:23
Entertaining. I am not questioning the veracity of your Report, but I thought "tall" and "Paisa" were mutually exclusive terms. I randomly tagged five Paisas in a row in Medellin and not one of them was over 5 feet tall.Ha. Know what you mean. But yes, confirmed with her that she's paisa. She's coming over tomorrow. She knows how to do business, this girl. Sends me "good morning" texts and shit.

Blakman
11-22-20, 21:40
Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense.


Not really though.

Anyone who speaks the local lingo, know how much better the price and the experience can be.

Common sense really.

Of course you can get by with your Translator.

All transactional and that's great.

Just not as great, LOL..

Surfer500
11-22-20, 21:49
This would be important news for many of us. I have a trip in two weeks, but I can't risk getting stuck there so it may not happen.Just returning from Medellin last week, and in following the number of cases being reported in Medellin during the last few weeks, there has not been an upward surge contrary to what many thought would occur since the lifting of the lockdown.

As far as getting stuck in Medellin, when you think about Colombia dropping the testing requirement to enter the Country a few weeks ago, it say's a lot.

The economy has been so devastated, that basically they are welcoming anyone in that wants to come in. And yes, upon arrival checking your temperature, which wasn't the case upon returning to the USA at least in FLL last week.

I can't imagine them shutting the Country down again like they did in March given the financial devastation, albeit they may start excluding visitors from the USA which would be a problem for those wanting to return to the USA, yet nothing has been predictable to date.

I think the timing is good right now to visit Medellin before things change, which hopefully Colombia won't go thru as is occurring in the colder climate Countries of the world right now.

Since returning from Colombia last week, I wonder now if I should of stayed in Colombia given what's happening in the USA, it's mind boggling thinking that 200,000 a day are getting infected.

I wish I could just go into hibernation and come out at the end of all this but unfortunately I cannot.

I grappled with the decision you appear to be trying to make now as whether to go, or not to go, and cancelled three flights before pulling the trigger. I had a great time and some great memories to savior until I return which hopefully be early next year.

Combo
11-22-20, 21:56
Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense.

.Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Surfer500
11-22-20, 21:59
Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense..All due respect Blakman, but I think your missing the point. It has nothing to do about money, but about everything else. Think about the issues you had with the one Chica where the Police showed up, or the various disputes you've had with your other Chicas. You have to ask yourself if you don't think speaking the language could of made a difference in the outcomes.

I rest my case.

Elvis 2008
11-22-20, 22:40
Any booth comes with a 650 k fee.
Included is a bottle. If you buy a bottle for 200 k you're still paying 650 k.
So buy a bottle for 500-600 k.
The girls will take turns making rounds to be seen by you.
My suggestion walk around and maybe invite one or 2 girls over and negotiate when you think you've found the one.
Lately I bring normal girls to Gustos just to party and have fun and even though they all know it's putas in there I tell them I have a friend who works there since the whole staff will give me VIP treatment and I'll always cut the line.
Tbh I haven't pulled from there in my last 4 trips there.
But it's still a place I like to go to.Sang,

I will just tell you how my trips to Medellin have been different than yours. No judgement just different.

So I will give a little background first. I have mongering for decades and having sex with hookers got to the point of being fast food. I went to Argentina and the Argentine I picked up out of Madaho's fucked me like I had never been fucked before. In hindsight, it was because I was American, and her country was in a horrible crisis, and she thought I was her knight in shining armor. It didn't last as she saw me out with a different girl and was pissed I hadn't devoted myself to her.

In the USA sex prison, I found that with the loss of shame, I could have a SB and get the same kind of sex I got in Argentina. Seeing a hooker was like getting fast food versus a gourmet meal. I first tried seeking.com in 2009 at the height of the Great Recession and landed smoking hot women from the site before it got overloaded with scam artists.

People have accused me of paying women to like them. That is not it. I remember being told sex is so much better when you are in love. That is not it IMO. What I have learned is I get better sex if it is not ALL about money. If a woman just cares about money, the best you will get is a woman doing just enough to fuck you to pick up the cash in most cases.

So I do the sugar baby thing not because I want friends or because I have women who adore me. The main reason I did it was to have the best sex.

About a year ago, I went to Medellin I met a civil engineer student and had a drink with her. She is one of the women in the photo I posted below and no she is not the mother.

I don't speak great Spanish and we had to use google translate. A lot of people have a hard time picking it up (I know weird right?) but she got it in no time. She was valedictorian at her high school class in Bucaramanga. She also makes and sells swimsuits on the side and has worked at an answering center. She gets no help from her parents and has paid her way through school. She is pretty, maybe an 8 or 9 but talent wise nonsexually she is a 10, real wife material. I really enjoyed meeting her, but she was not having sex the first time we met. She made that clear. I paid for an uber I think and that was it.

She came and saw me in Bogota the next time I came to Colombia and it was clear we were going to have sex. She would not French kiss or give me a blowjob. She had a migraine when she came to Bogota and was not in a good mood. In bed, she was in much the same shitty mood, "I am not doing that. Kissing you with tongues or your penis is gross. " Finally, I got pissed at her and let her have it. I told her that I had other women in Colombia who would kiss me, who would suck my cock, and I could get one up there in 10 minutes. I told her for being such a smart girl that she should not be at a loss as to what I was paying her for. "I am paying you to please me, to make me feel good, and it is clear to me that you have no concept what that means. " We had pretty lame sex that night, slept in the same bed that night, and I thought I was done with her for good.

I was surprisingly hard in the morning and she gave me a handjob, climbed on top and to my surprise, she had loosened up enough that she came. Later, she texted me for money, and I said my money only goes to women who are interested in pleasing me. She was practically in tears one time for money for her mother, who really was sick, and I gave her a little that one time.

When I last went to Colombia, I was not sure I was going to see her. I got blown off for a day by another girl so I called her up. She came to my hotel, but she didn't have enough for a swimsuit, so I paid for that and lunch, and that is it though the swimsuit was not as cheap as one she could have made herself. I learned swimsuits typically have 50 cents of material. LOL.

So we go to the hotel and start making out by the pool and then we go to the room and finally I saw what I had hoped all this time. She showed me what a great lover she could be if she devoted herself to sex and to pleasing me. I have had a few women ride me who were better but she climbed on me bare and she had gave me everything she had. She came two or three times but it was the effort, the sweat, the grunting, the crazy shaking orgasms. It was a major turn on to see a woman go from "I am not doing that" to "I am going to do all I can to please you". From a woman who went from giving me so little, the dam had broke, and she gave me everything she had. Think about that for a second. How many times have you been with a woman and she really gave you all that she had?

She sent me the nicest text when we were done and ended it with te quiero. She said that even though she knows I see other women. Guys may think the women I see are fucking other men, and I cannot certain if they are not, but with her, I doubt it. She seems way too uptight for that. She told me that she had been with two guys prior to me and she sure acted like it.

Her father was sick with Covid and was on a ventilator when we were together but he got better. A few weeks later, she had a weekend off where she could go see him and asked for 300,000 so she could go. I gave it to her, and this is the photo of her with her family.

I think a lot of guys are so focused on money and that the way to do it is to give women as little as possible. My response to that is what is the reaction of the women. Does she go back and tell her friends, "That stupid guy, I could have hit him up for 500,000" or does she respond with gratitude like this one did?

She has sent me texts after this, videos of her playing with herself, telling me she is playing with herself thinking about the time we were together, pleading with me to come see her.

Thing about this is I actually tell guys what I am doing. I know it makes some uncomfortable, but I am just saying for me this is the way to get the best sex. Hooker types that are fast food often are delicious often better than fancier fares, but nothing that special. I like the special meal prepared just for me. Sometimes it is worse than fast food, but when it is better, it can be so much better.

Yes, there are times that I have crashed and burned. I have had many hooker types that I have met from SA that were unsatisfying ripoffs. Still, I have had what other people thought was not possible, a cute, smart, hard working 20 something coed totally fall for me and I am in my 50's.

And I have to tell you something Sang, out of the five or so prospects I have in Colombia, she is fifth.

So it is your thing to go to a party and be the big shot or party king or whatever and make it rain with the best table, that is cool. It is your money and if it makes you happy, then go for it. You have a right to do and should do whatever makes you happy with your money. Like I said, the losers are the ones who tell you that they would spend your money better than you.

For me, it is spending time with women who give me the best sex they can. The side benefit has been they care about me and I care about them. A buddy of mine reminded me, "I have met your women, Elvis, and half of them want to marry you. " I went looking for the best sex and happened to get involved with some pretty cool relationships along the way.

We are not supposed to care about how women feel after having sex with us. They are paid for it right? Still, even if it does not work out with this engineer, and it probably won't, I like to think that she can feel like she had no regrets. Maybe things did not work out for us but I hope she can look back and really appreciate all I did for her. It has been a crazy journey for me, a guy who really was just looking for the best sex possible.

Blakman
11-22-20, 22:43
Gusto and few other lleras night club gives the opportunity to see girls attempt to dress their best / look dolled up, see great curves. Most chicas who come visit me come casual pretty much. I like to see fashion as I am quite fashionable myself. Fase dos is a good choice. La70 and la 33 I would like to try. Question to you surfer or any other member. I notice that few girls from Cali and maybe even cartegena are station in centro. What is the odds of these 2 beautiful girls at gusto are actually working in centro.

Today i could have session with a gusto girl. 200mil 1 hr. But i was at 150mil 2 hr 2 leche. I may concede since shes attractive and without kids.


I'm going to have to assume the only reason you go into Gusto's is because your close by, and just for the eye candy, which there doesn't seem to be much of. And two chocolate girls that are tourists in Gustos, that's funny, and I suppose they might be tourists coming from perhaps the Northern coast of Colombia to work, that would be my bet, especially a pair making the rounds together.

Why don't you try some other places like Fase Dos for a change, or even some of the Clubs in El Centro at Avenida De La Grief to compare to what you've been seeing in Gustos and at LLeras..

JjBee62
11-22-20, 23:16
Hey,

I was at La Isla yesterday too. Were y'all the crowd that included one fairly young looking Asian gentleman? I think I was sitting behind you guys haha.That was us. We started as 3 and ended up as 5.

Surfer500
11-22-20, 23:27
Gusto and few other lleras night club gives the opportunity to see girls attempt to dress their best / look dolled up, see great curves. Most chicas who come visit me come casual pretty much. I like to see fashion as I am quite fashionable myself. Fase dos is a good choice. La70 and la 33 I would like to try. Question to you surfer or any other member. I notice that few girls from Cali and maybe even cartegena are station in centro. What is the odds of these 2 beautiful girls at gusto are actually working in centro.

Today i could have session with a gusto girl. 200mil 1 hr. But i was at 150mil 2 hr 2 leche. I may concede since shes attractive and without kids..I'm assuming when you go to Gusto's your not wearing shorts, a baseball cap, and sneakers.

I do know that there are some girls that work both Lleras and El Centro, but very few, but don't know about Gusto's.

I have spoken with girls working Lleras on many occasions out of curiosity as I'm ten minutes away, and frequently walk thru the area.

The girls working Lleras / Gustos have experience with foreigners, where as the majority of the girls working in El Centro have never even been to Poblado.

You have to keep in mind that 99% of the clients in El Centro are locals, and that very few of the girls that work El Centro would be able to navigate the LLeras / Gusto scene let alone have nice clothing and all the small talk to snag a customer. Pulling girls from Lleras / Gustos as your aware is not like going to casa / club and making a selection, the girls have to do a sales job of sorts wheras in El Centro it basically boils down to price with not much interaction.

If you put yourself in the shoes of a working girl, why do tricks for 30 K when you could make 5 to ten times and more than that working LLeras / Gustos.

So in summary I find it hard to believe an El Centro girl would be working in Gustos as it doesn't make logical sense, but there might be.

IamLookin
11-22-20, 23:45
If you speak spanish fluently it makes a big difference. I have my list of girls that when they come over I really don't know if they will stay a couple of hours or the night of even a couple of nights. Being.

Able to speak conversational spanish, tell jokes and have good spirits to drink helps. Just think how boring you are to them if you can't speak the language? If you can't speak the language expect once the deed is done they will want to leave. Can't blame them for that.


Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Blakman
11-22-20, 23:57
No matter how fluent you are the puta is going to be on her cell phone texting with next or potential clients, or with online entertainment. Whenever theres a break lol. Sometimes it happens while you fucking. You guys are in fantasy land. Wanting to believe speaking spanish impact a puta decision for a sexual encounter. Best you say if she wants extended visits or relationship. Whenever you believe $ is not the most important. You are disillusion.


If you speak spanish fluently it makes a big difference. I have my list of girls that when they come over I really don't know if they will stay a couple of hours or the night of even a couple of nights. Being.

Able to speak conversational spanish, tell jokes and have good spirits to drink helps. Just think how boring you are to them if you can't speak the language? If you can't speak the language expect once the deed is done they will want to leave. Can't blame them for that..

Blakman
11-23-20, 00:06
I agree that a Gusto girl is unlike to be at Centro. But quite a few mileroticos girls work Centro so you are underestimating an easy transition at lleras park. Majority of the girls at centro strip club most likely double online. The only thing lleras girl say is Hi papi my name is so and so you want to go with me tonight LOL. How hard is that.


I'm assuming when you go to Gusto's your not wearing shorts, a baseball cap, and sneakers.

I do know that there are some girls that work both Lleras and El Centro, but very few, but don't know about Gusto's.

I have spoken with girls working Lleras on many occasions out of curiosity as I'm ten minutes away, and frequently walk thru the area.

The girls working Lleras / Gustos have experience with foreigners, where as the majority of the girls working in El Centro have never even been to Poblado.

You have to keep in mind that 99% of the clients in El Centro are locals, and that very few of the girls that work El Centro would be able to navigate the LLeras / Gusto scene let alone have nice clothing and all the small talk to snag a customer. Pulling girls from Lleras / Gustos as your aware is not like going to casa / club and making a selection, the girls have to do a sales job of sorts wheras in El Centro it basically boils down to price with not much interaction.

If you put yourself in the shoes of a working girl, why do tricks for 30 K when you could make 5 to ten times and more than that working LLeras / Gustos.

So in summary I find it hard to believe an El Centro girl would be working in Gustos as it doesn't make logical sense, but there might be..

Balboa
11-23-20, 00:10
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the price has very little to do with your love of being a Centro rat. It's the thrill of the hunt, the walk on the dark side. Paying a chica to come over is normal, vanilla and there's no thrill, but grabbing a sweetie from the street is taboo, with just a whiff of danger.

Seems perfectly normal to me.You hit it JjB!

And the truth is, if you can speak and jive with them, show some empathy, some cario, they can turn into loving sex kittens.

Price is whatever you want to pay.

First trick is the pick, the hunt.

I know after just a few sentences usually, their way.

And the hug.

I joke around a little, and somewhere in the jive, ask for a hug.

That hug tells a lot. It really does.

I'm just a normal dude really. Average looks I think, in shape, not an Olympic athlete by any means though, however, I was blessed with blue eyes which they love.

I just learned well the lingo, the culture after so many years, and I'm a people person.

All works.

Best pickings for me, by far, Centro.

Gustos, not my gig. I've been of course. It's a shark atmosphere mostly.

Parque Lleras though better, IMO, is not much better.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses, our wants and our desired flavors.

No matter where I'm hanging out, Colombia, Sao Paulo, Rio, I find my gems in "Centro" most usually.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 00:20
You hit it JjB!

And the truth is, if you can speak and jive with them, show some empathy, some cario, they can turn into loving sex kittens.

Price is whatever you want to pay.

First trick is the pick, the hunt.

I know after just a few sentences usually, their way.

And the hug.

I joke around a little, and somewhere in the jive, ask for a hug.

That hug tells a lot. It really does.Your preaching to the choir!

BootyBandit84
11-23-20, 00:31
No matter how fluent you are the puta is going to be on her cell phone texting with next or potential clients, or with online entertainment. Whenever theres a break lol. Sometimes it happens while you fucking. You guys are in fantasy land. Wanting to believe speaking spanish impact a puta decision for a sexual encounter. Best you say if she wants extended visits or relationship. Whenever you believe $ is not the most important. You are disillusion.

.Sorry man but I have to disagree with you. Being fluent in Spanish definitely makes a difference, specially on longer sessions. I'm Mexican American and Spanish is my first language. Spanish makes a huge difference when I visit places like Mexico, Colombia or Peru. I was able to get much better service and in some cases, much better prices because I can communicate fluently. For me its not even about saving some dollars. Its just a better time when the girls feel more relax because you can chat with them. It makes for a better connection and a more passionate experience, specially with ones you have repeat meetings with.

I can tell you I didn't have such a great time in China or Vietnam where I couldn't communicate as easily. It definitely made things more difficult. I still found plenty of action and for great deals but not as enjoyable as I have in central and south America. If you want to believe your delusion that being able to communicate easily doesn't change things a little bit for the better, hey you do you bro.

Balboa
11-23-20, 00:58
Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense.

.Haha, I like it, I take it as a compliment. Balbonehead, LOL.

However, IMO, you're wrong.

You don't speak the language, so you really don't know man.

Of course they want / need money.

I'm not looking for a freebie.

I'm looking for a good time, a great love illusion.

The price goes down, the experience gets better with language skills.

Common sense.

Mr Enternational
11-23-20, 01:00
What I have learned is I get better sex if it is not ALL about money. If a woman just cares about money, the best you will get is a woman doing just enough to fuck you to pick up the cash in most cases.

So I do the sugar baby thing not because I want friends or because I have women who adore me. The main reason I did it was to have the best sex.One trip to one of those termas in Brazil will have you shutting on what you thought was a learned lesson and kicking yourself in the ass for throwing all that sugar baby money away.

I have fucked hookers that will blast your ass off to outer space and I have fucked regular chicks that I have wanted to kick out of the bed. There is no correlation of somebody being only in it for the money and terrible sex. There is also no correlation in speaking the language and how the sex is. One trip to a termas will nip that in the bud too. But you will of course have a better overall time being able to speak the language than not speaking it. There is no denying that.

My first few times in Brazil, Colombia, and Thailand I did not speak Portuguese, Spanish, or Thai respectively. Learning each language has made a hell of a difference in the time I have in those places. When I travel with my dad every minute he is asking me what is she saying and tell her this. He has a great time, but you don't think he would have a better time if he did not have to consult his son the translator every 5 seconds?

Knowledge
11-23-20, 01:01
Facts, not easy to accept for some but these are facts.


No matter how fluent you are the puta is going to be on her cell phone texting with next or potential clients, or with online entertainment. Whenever theres a break lol. Sometimes it happens while you fucking. You guys are in fantasy land. Wanting to believe speaking spanish impact a puta decision for a sexual encounter. Best you say if she wants extended visits or relationship. Whenever you believe $ is not the most important. You are disillusion..

Balboa
11-23-20, 01:02
No matter how fluent you are the puta is going to be on her cell phone texting with next or potential clients, or with online entertainment. Whenever theres a break lol. Sometimes it happens while you fucking. You guys are in fantasy land. Wanting to believe speaking spanish impact a puta decision for a sexual encounter. Best you say if she wants extended visits or relationship. Whenever you believe $ is not the most important. You are disillusion.

.That's your experience, not mine.

When I was a newbie, didn't speak the lingo, that happened.

Rare now.

Again, I know they want / need money.

I assure them they'll get paid.

I don't go with the aggressive money grubbers, the sharks, they get discarded immediately.

The rest is gravy.

Believe what you want, I know you have a good time, I enjoy your posts, combo of fun and humor, however, learn the lingo and check it out!

Knowledge
11-23-20, 01:06
I think Spanish would have helped him get out of the situation faster and cheaper but I have doubts it would have prevented him getting into the situation to begin with. That is not a language issue.


Just returning from Medellin last week, and in following the number of cases being reported in Medellin during the last few weeks, there has not been an upward surge contrary to what many thought would occur since the lifting of the lockdown.

As far as getting stuck in Medellin, when you think about Colombia dropping the testing requirement to enter the Country a few weeks ago, it say's a lot.

The economy has been so devastated, that basically they are welcoming anyone in that wants to come in. And yes, upon arrival checking your temperature, which wasn't the case upon returning to the USA at least in FLL last week.

I can't imagine them shutting the Country down again like they did in March given the financial devastation, albeit they may start excluding visitors from the USA which would be a problem for those wanting to return to the USA, yet nothing has been predictable to date.

I think the timing is good right now to visit Medellin before things change, which hopefully Colombia won't go thru as is occurring in the colder climate Countries of the world right now..

Blakman
11-23-20, 01:17
Honestly I don't think I will ever understand them verbally. They speak too fast. Next journey english speaking country. I am not stuck to Colombia. I am under the weather and so I appreciate your peaceful post to agree to disagree.


That's your experience, not mine.

When I was a newbie, didn't speak the lingo, that happened.

Rare now.

Again, I know they want / need money.

I assure them they'll get paid.

I don't go with the aggressive money grubbers, the sharks, they get discarded immediately.

The rest is gravy.

Believe what you want, I know you have a good time, I enjoy your posts, combo of fun and humor, however, learn the lingo and check it out!.

MarquisdeSade1
11-23-20, 01:29
I have fucked hookers that will blast your ass off to outer space and I have fucked regular chicks that I have wanted to kick out of the bed. There is no correlation of somebody being only in it for the money and terrible sex. There is also no correlation in speaking the language and how the sex is. Amen preacher.

The Cane
11-23-20, 01:46
When I travel with my dad every minute he is asking me what is she saying and tell her this. He has a great time, but you don't think he would have a better time if he did not have to consult his son the translator every 5 seconds?And so would you too! I remember the one and only time I arranged to have a wing man ahead of time. We met up in Colombia after first meeting each other in Costa Rica, and this guy spoke no Spanish! I thought he was better than he was, because he had already been mongering around Latin America a lot. I just somehow thought he was better, but this guy had no skills! I couldn't enjoy myself how I wanted to for having to constantly translate and interpret for him! Was extremely fucking annoying. Not to mention that one night he got stumbling drunk, and I had to get his drunk ass back to his hotel room, then rush back to the club to get with one of my favorite tutes. Never again!

Osteoknot
11-23-20, 01:59
Boggles my mind, but a lot of discussions are like that here and I try to keep an open mind. Mongers argue opinions, knowing Spanish is one of many, with no practical experience in the point they are arguing against. When all I have is my own, one-sided, personal biased experience with nothing to compare, how can I say tipping doesn't help if I never tried to tip? How can I say making myself presentable doesn't help if I never shaved my ear hair? I am not talking about the Lemming Argument; I don't have to jump off a cliff to know that I am not going to like the end result. But for more subtle matters of taste and style, maybe someone else has built a better mousetrap. Or not. At one point, I am sure most of what I do that is valid started with some good old fashioned Research and Development, otherwise known as Ripoff & Duplicate, jajaja.

ColombiaLover
11-23-20, 02:14
If you go to Seven or Farenheit, bring your own girl. At least that's been my experience. I went to Faison with an ex-stripper from FASE II. It was fun because the girl was not a FASE II girl any more (we had dinner and a normal conversation and ended up with great sex very early in the morning after Faison closed). She knew a lot of the girls in Faison, so I got a lot of attention and a lot of free boob shots and gropes.

For the brave of hear, you can go to White House in Prado. I would bring your own girl, although there are prepagos on site (most not worth it). It stays open very late and is fun.


The after hours parties for exclusively strippers and hookers are expensive.

That would be Faisan and Paradise.

However other spots like Seven and Farenheit are not as. However lots of locals. And the crowd is like a high school crowd. Totally not my scene.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 02:16
I think Spanish would have helped him get out of the situation faster and cheaper but I have doubts it would have prevented him getting into the situation to begin with. That is not a language issue.I agree with you.

ColombiaLover
11-23-20, 02:17
That is why I love Medellin. I'll take those short woman with small breasts. As long as they are not short and fat. Body has to be proportinoal.


Short woman and small breast. But in the casas you can find tall black or brunette woman. I always ask. Cuanto mides?

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Fun Luvr
11-23-20, 02:32
About a year ago, I went to Medellin I met a civil engineer student and had a drink with her. She is one of the women in the photo I posted below and no she is not the mother..Looks like you forgot to post the photo.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 02:38
Honestly I don't think I will ever understand them verbally. They speak too fast. Next journey english speaking country. I am not stuck to Colombia. I am under the weather and so I appreciate your peaceful post to agree to disagree..Nobody is trying to bust your chops here, yet are speaking from experience. Unless you were planning on spending a lot of time in Colombia, learning the language which can take forever for some isn't worth the time, except to learn what is necessary for mongering and basic survival.

I hope your feeling better soon, and am looking forward to hear about more of your adventures.

Elvis 2008
11-23-20, 02:51
One trip to one of those termas in Brazil will have you shutting on what you thought was a learned lesson and kicking yourself in the ass for throwing all that sugar baby money away. You think I just fell off the turnip truck? LOL. I have been to the termas. They were not that great. Sao Paulo was better, but sex with the best of my sugar babies is at a whole other level. Yeah, I know, you are too smart to fall for that sugar daddy thing though.


I have fucked hookers that will blast your ass off to outer spaceYawn. That is like saying a Big Mac will blast my ass off. Been there, done that.


There is no correlation of somebody being only in it for the money and terrible sex.I agree, but that is not what I said.


Learning each language has made a hell of a difference in the time I have in those places.Good for you. The language barrier has not hurt me at all.

Tell you what. You can have your women, and I will have mine, and I insist that you keep your women thank you very much. Were those women supposed to blow me away?

That post was not for you, but I think it is funny you could not help but respond to it.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 03:29
That is why I love Medellin. I'll take those short woman with small breasts. As long as they are not short and fat. Body has to be proportinoal.I guess a midget would fall into that category.

SpiderRider
11-23-20, 03:49
Luna Lunera is on 33, no need to bring a date there.That is true, its a hybrid Sala (gringos call them "casas") and show club. But it is not on the strip of pubs and bars which I consider "la 33". Essentially between la 76 and la 80

JjBee62
11-23-20, 04:25
Haha, I like it, I take it as a compliment. Balbonehead, LOL.

However, IMO, you're wrong.

You don't speak the language, so you really don't know man.

Of course they want / need money.

I'm not looking for a freebie.

I'm looking for a good time, a great love illusion.

The price goes down, the experience gets better with language skills.

Common sense.If you can speak the language the phone goes down too. I remember every single girl my first few months, phone in hand almost constantly. Between last year and this year, not one girl was on her phone until she was ready to leave.

JjBee62
11-23-20, 04:30
If you go to Seven or Farenheit, bring your own girl. At least that's been my experience. I went to Faison with an ex-stripper from FASE II. It was fun because the girl was not a FASE II girl any more (we had dinner and a normal conversation and ended up with great sex very early in the morning after Faison closed). She knew a lot of the girls in Faison, so I got a lot of attention and a lot of free boob shots and gropes.

For the brave of hear, you can go to White House in Prado. I would bring your own girl, although there are prepagos on site (most not worth it). It stays open very late and is fun.I've only been to Fahrenheit twice, but both times there were girls working the club.

BMo814
11-23-20, 05:07
Haha, I like it, I take it as a compliment. Balbonehead, LOL.

However, IMO, you're wrong.

You don't speak the language, so you really don't know man.

Of course they want / need money.

I'm not looking for a freebie.

I'm looking for a good time, a great love illusion.

The price goes down, the experience gets better with language skills.

Common sense.True! I'm saying the same on the Brazilian forum now in regards to speaking Portuguese. It changes the vibe. They enter thinking this going to be a long as date I can't even talk to this dude. Then it's like oh you do speak and if you have any kind of swag / coolness about you now y’all both in for a great time.

BMo814
11-23-20, 05:11
Amen preacher.Mr E always deliver that real talk. You need an addendum to that name like el papá de putaria Mr Enternational LOL.

Osteoknot
11-23-20, 05:54
You don't speak the language, so you really don't know man. Common sense.Extemporaneous Speech Competition Rules: Benefits of Learning Spanish slaughtered Doesn't Make a Difference, 100-0.

Blakman
11-23-20, 08:04
Colombians love there culture and speaking spanish is not the only way to get there cultural attention. I have done 1 HR session once at my apartment. As I always mention 3 hrs 2 leche is my norm. I speak nil spanish but I provide a cultural experience and give them what they do not experience often in Colombia. I allow them to utilize their cell when theres a break and they love the experience as if they are dealing with a local colombian man. They enjoy the 3 hrs. And have no qualms about returning when I request there time. Excellent reggaeton selection will have a girl dancing and flirting with you instantly, toss in glass of wine and any snacks as long as the set up is inviting. Bring her to you room and give her a body oil massage. See how quickly she removes her clothing and afterwards do whatever you please. All of this a slow romantic sexual experience. Then fuck her brains talk dirty to her. Give her use of the vibrator if you need a break. She is witnessing a person who is thinking of her. These girls do not get this experience from you lame ass fluent spanish speaking gringo that talk there ears off. They don't want conversation. They want that rarity. Affection and to be physically and mentally turned on. The Bill is in the mail. 101 how to turn a puta on.

The Tall Man
11-23-20, 14:23
Los Tres Jotas, and I'm only one of those J's, visited La Isla last night, as part of the final night of my trip. The earlier parts will get a separate report.

We arrived using Didi around 10:15 pm, which is an ideal time if you're planning on buying a bottle and spending some time, rather than just grabbing a girl. Your chances of getting a good table are much better.

Entry procedure requires hand sanitizer, temperature check, frisk and paying the 20 k per person door fee, after which you're met by a waiter who will help with your table selection. Ours was in the corner, next to the stage, close to the doors leading up to the rooms, a good spot.

Initially every other seating area was closed off, keeping distancing between groups, but that ended once the club filled. By the time we were ready to go, about 2:30, we had received a few offers to buy our table.

Inside the club is much nicer than Fase Dos. The seats are comfortable the ambiance and lighting are excellent and the service is top notch. Just raise your hand and Freddy, or whoever your waiter is, will be right over. At Fase Dos, if you want service you need to first sacrifice a live chicken to the gods...With detailed and spot on reports like these I don't need to write nor comment anymore on these boards.

Spot on especially true about the rooms at both working girl houses. I have partied at both a number of times over the past 8 years give or take. I don't go often rather only if I have a buddy or a group of friends who want to check them out.

The Tall Man is now standing down.

Really good report.

The Tall Man.

BootyBandit84
11-23-20, 15:36
Colombians love there culture and speaking spanish is not the only way to get there cultural attention. I have done 1 HR session once at my apartment. As I always mention 3 hrs 2 leche is my norm. I speak nil spanish but I provide a cultural experience and give them what they do not experience often in Colombia. I allow them to utilize their cell when theres a break and they love the experience as if they are dealing with a local colombian man. They enjoy the 3 hrs. And have no qualms about returning when I request there time. Excellent reggaeton selection will have a girl dancing and flirting with you instantly, toss in glass of wine and any snacks as long as the set up is inviting. Bring her to you room and give her a body oil massage. See how quickly she removes her clothing and afterwards do whatever you please. All of this a slow romantic sexual experience. Then fuck her brains talk dirty to her. Give her use of the vibrator if you need a break. She is witnessing a person who is thinking of her. These girls do not get this experience from you lame ass fluent spanish speaking gringo that talk there ears off. They don't want conversation. They want that rarity. Affection and to be physically and mentally turned on. The Bill is in the mail. 101 how to turn a puta on.You are totally right! Women everywhere definitely have a better time spending hours on end with someone that can't say two words to them over someone they can speak perfectly with them!

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. You do you.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 17:30
Colombians love there culture and speaking spanish is not the only way to get there cultural attention. I have done 1 HR session once at my apartment. As I always mention 3 hrs 2 leche is my norm. I speak nil spanish but I provide a cultural experience and give them what they do not experience often in Colombia. I allow them to utilize their cell when theres a break and they love the experience as if they are dealing with a local colombian man. They enjoy the 3 hrs. And have no qualms about returning when I request there time. Excellent reggaeton selection will have a girl dancing and flirting with you instantly, toss in glass of wine and any snacks as long as the set up is inviting. Bring her to you room and give her a body oil massage. See how quickly she removes her clothing and afterwards do whatever you please. All of this a slow romantic sexual experience. Then fuck her brains talk dirty to her. Give her use of the vibrator if you need a break. She is witnessing a person who is thinking of her. These girls do not get this experience from you lame ass fluent spanish speaking gringo that talk there ears off. They don't want conversation. They want that rarity. Affection and to be physically and mentally turned on. The Bill is in the mail. 101 how to turn a puta on.Up until this post, I don't know what to say anymore.

I, and others, have tried to give you good, and sound advice on your exploits here in Medellin based on experience here, yet you seem to be close minded to what others have been saying, at least in my opinion.

And the notion that your giving these girls a cultural experience not available to them in Colombia, really?

It goes without saying that if you treat a Colombian like a princess, you will reap an immeasurable response which many others have posted about.

You may think your providing the Colombians with something very few of the other members are capable of, yet this is just not the case.

Perhaps you wrote this post while not feeling well and being frustrated with how others have been responding on the issue of speaking the language.

Your so lucky and fortunate to be in Medellin at this moment, it's a good time to be there, compared to other places in the world.

Maybe change things up, head down to El Centro and snag a deaf mute and post about it. I know you think I'm nuts, but think about it, when a woman cannot speak or hear, is there really any difference between her and others that can speak and hear during sex?

Just something to ponder!

Blakman
11-23-20, 17:43
A little under the weather rant


You are totally right! Women everywhere definitely have a better time spending hours on end with someone that can't say two words to them over someone they can speak perfectly with them!

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. You do you..

Nounce
11-23-20, 18:03
Colombians love there culture and speaking spanish is not the only way to get there cultural attention. I have done 1 HR session once at my apartment. As I always mention 3 hrs 2 leche is my norm. I speak nil spanish but I provide a cultural experience and give them what they do not experience often in Colombia. I allow them to utilize their cell when theres a break and they love the experience as if they are dealing with a local colombian man. They enjoy the 3 hrs. And have no qualms about returning when I request there time. Excellent reggaeton selection will have a girl dancing and flirting with you instantly, toss in glass of wine and any snacks as long as the set up is inviting. Bring her to you room and give her a body oil massage. See how quickly she removes her clothing and afterwards do whatever you please. All of this a slow romantic sexual experience. Then fuck her brains talk dirty to her. Give her use of the vibrator if you need a break. She is witnessing a person who is thinking of her. These girls do not get this experience from you lame ass fluent spanish speaking gringo that talk there ears off. They don't want conversation. They want that rarity. Affection and to be physically and mentally turned on. The Bill is in the mail. 101 how to turn a puta on.On top of these, what if you also know Spanish?

Knowledge
11-23-20, 18:22
Thailand is a top punter destination. Many rave about the experience yet very very few speak Thai. Is there something special about Spanish (other than the fact it is easier for non native speakers to learn) that makes it so important to some? Maybe there is no expectation in Thailand or Eastern Europe of the enhanced experience described by the must speak Spanish faction?

As I've stated numerous times in the past, I believe language ability is an advantage rather than a non-negotiable must have. It is more of a must have for guys who are in long term relationships or marriages. I think it also enhances the fantasy life of those who see the scene as a version of the Pretty Woman plot in which providers as some version of Julia Roberts and they are a sort of Richard Gere. Fantasy is good as long as you see it as such.


On top of these, what if you also know Spanish?

BootyBandit84
11-23-20, 18:24
A little under the weather rant

.No worries buddy. My original post wasn't trying to argue with anyone. I was just giving my opinion based on my experiences in places where I did and didn't speak the local language. At the end of the day as long as you enjoy your time anywhere you go that is all that matters. Hope you feel better.

Knowledge
11-23-20, 19:20
File my response under: "a hit dog will holler" LOL!


A little under the weather rant.

Blakman
11-23-20, 19:42
Hey I am honest with myself. I would go after nothing but non pros. I know speaking the language is advantageous but the response was in the original post saying it makes it 5 times harder. I don't see the difficulty to that extent.

Are


On top of these, what if you also know Spanish?.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 19:51
Thailand is a top punter destination. Many rave about the experience yet very very few speak Thai. Is there something special about Spanish (other than the fact it is easier for non native speakers to learn) that makes it so important to some? Maybe there is no expectation in Thailand or Eastern Europe of the enhanced experience described by the must speak Spanish faction?

As I've stated numerous times in the past, I believe language ability is an advantage rather than a non-negotiable must have. It is more of a must have for guys who are in long term relationships or marriages. I think it also enhances the fantasy life of those who see the scene as a version of the Pretty Woman plot in which providers as some version of Julia Roberts and they are a sort of Richard Gere. Fantasy is good as long as you see it as such.All due respect Knowledge, and I don't know how many times you have been to Thailand, but I have been there at least a dozen times, and the majority of the women speak English, much more so than the women in Colombia. They have to speak English and other languages to survive there because the clients are all foreigners. I never had any communication issues in Thailand with the women not speaking a word of Thai, versus the issues mongers in Colombia have who don't speak any Spanish. This is just a fact I know others who have been to Thailand can attest to.

Other than that I agree with your assessment, and can't wait for Thailand to open back up as I have so many good memories. And yes, I roll the same way there that I do in Medellin, pulling from the street.

BMo814
11-23-20, 20:05
If you can speak the language the phone goes down too. I remember every single girl my first few months, phone in hand almost constantly. Between last year and this year, not one girl was on her phone until she was ready to leave.Word up! And when I'm paying I don't want to see that phone. You at work girl, no phone usage allowed unless we taking photos, videos or looking and laughing at some goofy shit on YouTube in between fucks.

BMo814
11-23-20, 20:16
I think most of us dig knowing the language for more than just the girls. No it won't ruin your trip but it's makes it a whole lot smoother. Ordering food, asking directions, expressing your displeasure whatever it may be. Many trips I've met cats who didn't speak Spanish, guess who gets to talk for them. I remember on trip in particular in the DR a dude I met from philly had a chick come down, I was the third wheel, hell it might has well been my date, I translated the whole time. I'm in Brazil and I wish I had doubled down on my studying Porto. Although I'm getting by and the people are super complimentary and tell me I speak well I know I know the effort is appreciated immensely. The bitches don't care they get paid regardless, although I know it makes a difference as I've asked escorts in Tijuana how they feel about having a client who doesn't speak Spanish and they say it makes the date rough. I know it's better to be the going that speaks Spanish than just the gringo.

John Clayton
11-23-20, 20:19
Word up! And when I'm paying I don't want to see that phone. You at work girl, no phone usage allowed unless we taking photos, videos or looking and laughing at some goofy shit on YouTube in between fucks.Way back in the day (even before answering machines) it used to give me a strange thrill to fuck a guy's wife or fiancée while she was taking a call him, but, for sure if you're paying for it, phones or teevee are. No.

Blakman
11-23-20, 20:31
Its really an amazing experience and the immensity of it. The amount of money flow through that place is incredible. And the service of the women is so girlfriend friendly


All due respect Knowledge, and I don't know how many times you have been to Thailand, but I have been there at least a dozen times, and the majority of the women speak English, much more so than the women in Colombia. They have to speak English and other languages to survive there because the clients are all foreigners. I never had any communication issues in Thailand with the women not speaking a word of Thai, versus the issues mongers in Colombia have who don't speak any Spanish. This is just a fact I know others who have been to Thailand can attest to.

Other than that I agree with your assessment, and can't wait for Thailand to open back up as I have so many good memories. And yes, I roll the same way there that I do in Medellin, pulling from the street..

Nounce
11-23-20, 20:39
All due respect Knowledge, and I don't know how many times you have been to Thailand, but I have been there at least a dozen times, and the majority of the women speak English, much more so than the women in Colombia. They have to speak English and other languages to survive there because the clients are all foreigners. I never had any communication issues in Thailand with the women not speaking a word of Thai, versus the issues mongers in Colombia have who don't speak any Spanish. This is just a fact I know others who have been to Thailand can attest to.

Other than that I agree with your assessment, and can't wait for Thailand to open back up as I have so many good memories. And yes, I roll the same way there that I do in Medellin, pulling from the street.One time I had an escort came to my room and the first sentence she said was "I don't speak English" in English. Some girls also speak Japanese and Chinese nowadays.

JjBee62
11-23-20, 20:50
This trip was both a disaster and my best trip. That's the way things go sometimes.

The non-pro stuff didn't pan out at all. Other than the ride from the airport, which was quite enjoyable, a nice dinner with 2 girls and a long lunch with another, there was no return on that effort. It might have been different if I hadn't gotten sick, but probably not. One of the girls still has potential, but I'm not putting any effort there, other than to reply to messages.

San Peter Apartments made for a reasonable stay, when my original plan fell through. They're chica friendly and clean, with all the basics you need. Given a choice, get one of the top floor rooms, they're quieter.

Laureles is still a great place to get around, with excellent food choices practically on every street. I even went vegetarian a few days.

Uber and Didi seem to be a better bet than taxis. Seems like more taxis are trying to cheat customers now.

Either my perception has changed or the looks of girls at every venue seems to have gone up. Other than the La Isla girl, my experiences were all excellent.

What made the trip my best were all the guys I met and hung out with. I normally do my own thing, but this trip I spent part of most the days with other mongers. A few were guys I already knew, but most were new introductions. Thanks to everyone for making the most of it with me.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 20:57
Its really an amazing experience and the immensity of it. The amount of money flow through that place is incredible. And the service of the women is so girlfriend friendly.Your starting to make some sense now!

BMo814
11-23-20, 20:57
Way back in the day (even before answering machines) it used to give me a strange thrill to fuck a guy's wife or fiance while she was taking a call him, but, for sure if you're paying for it, phones or teevee are. No.Hahaha, that might be the exception if she sucking your dick while lying to the husband / boyfriend.

Knowledge
11-23-20, 21:58
Yes I've been to Thailand. Same as in Eastern Europe, there are many more English speakers among providers than in Colombia. Nonetheless I've never known a punter to leave here with blueballs for lack of Spanish knowledge. I agree it's less likely they will come away with a life companion or even a meaningful relationship. So, anyone for whom that is a goal should pursue language study.


Its really an amazing experience and the immensity of it. The amount of money flow through that place is incredible. And the service of the women is so girlfriend friendly.

Surfer500
11-23-20, 22:26
Either my perception has changed or the looks of girls at every venue seems to have gone up. Other than the La Isla girl, my experiences were all excellent.Interesting comment about the looks of the girls. I know you didn't frequent El Centro much, but I noticed the opposite in El Centro, or at least nothing better than before.

A friend of mine who is there now, and has been staying in El Cento since the beginning of November told me when I met him that he thought the looks or quality of the girls had actually gone down in his opinion since before the Pandemic, he's a street rat and doesn't venture into the clubs or casa's. I think he was talking more about the quality of the Vennies than anything else.

Glad to hear you had a good trip, and now you get to sit on the sidelines like me for hopefully a short period of time playing Monday morning quarterback at times.

Blakman
11-23-20, 22:31
Very tight compared to where I am now. The shower would not really get hot. Is this a common problem at San Peters. La 70 is definitely nice to view some non pros. Ate at a restaurant cannot recall the name.

VsebudetNY
11-23-20, 22:51
The shower would not really get hot.The water in shower is warm. You need to let it run for couple minutes. Check your PM.

The Cane
11-23-20, 23:13
Way back in the day (even before answering machines) it used to give me a strange thrill to fuck a guy's wife or fiance while she was taking a call him, but, for sure if you're paying for it, phones or teevee are. No.That reminds me of one time when I was fucking this Colombian girl at the Del Rey Hotel in San Jose, Costa Rica. The TV is on, she she starts taking little short breaks from sucking my dick, and looking up at the TV to sing the commercial jingles! I turned the TV off and told her to pay attention to what she was doing! Only time I ever had to do something like that. As you can guess, although she looked good, overall she sucked (in a bad way). I tried to hit her in her big butt with the door on her way out! Women like that just don't last long in the business. And they shouldn't. Too bad she got some of my money. You win some and you lose some. As long as you're mostly winning, it's all good in the end!

JjBee62
11-24-20, 00:09
All due respect Knowledge, and I don't know how many times you have been to Thailand, but I have been there at least a dozen times, and the majority of the women speak English, much more so than the women in Colombia. They have to speak English and other languages to survive there because the clients are all foreigners. I never had any communication issues in Thailand with the women not speaking a word of Thai, versus the issues mongers in Colombia have who don't speak any Spanish. This is just a fact I know others who have been to Thailand can attest to.

Other than that I agree with your assessment, and can't wait for Thailand to open back up as I have so many good memories. And yes, I roll the same way there that I do in Medellin, pulling from the street.That has always been my understanding of Thailand and the PI, that English is more commonly found, especially in the main tourist areas.

I don't think anyone is saying it's difficult to monger in Colombia without Spanish, but the more you're able to understand, the better everything gets. It has very little to do with the sex, although knowing the difference between "fuerte" and "suave" helps. But it's all the little things that cause minor irritations, which will go away.

JjBee62
11-24-20, 00:18
Very tight compared to where I am now. The shower would not really get hot. Is this a common problem at San Peters. La 70 is definitely nice to view some non pros. Ate at a restaurant cannot recall the name.Colombia mostly uses inline water heaters. How hot the water gets depends on how much water is flowing. You have to throttle the water flow back for it to get nice and hot.

Talked to Racshack today. Since you've been under the weather he wants to take over the vending concession at your place. He'll cover setup costs and you get 10% of the net profit.

Knowledge
11-24-20, 00:33
I would spend more time there if it were not so far away. I felt differently when I was younger. Now, the prospect of losing two days of my life on airplanes and another two days to jet lag is harder to reconcile. It is absolutely a punter's bucket list experience. Descriptions don't do it justice. I am glad I spent time at a couple of civilian resorts to get a feel for Thai life beyond the honky tonks.


Its really an amazing experience and the immensity of it. The amount of money flow through that place is incredible. And the service of the women is so girlfriend friendly.

Triple Darknes
11-24-20, 00:54
Hey I am honest with myself. I would go after nothing but non pros. I know speaking the language is advantageous but the response was in the original post saying it makes it 5 times harder. I don't see the difficulty to that extent.

Are

.How is non pros in Colombia? In the great DR vs Colombia debate even the DR sexpats say that Colombia is better, When asked why are they in the DR they say that it's easier to go after nonpros even if you hardly speak spanish. I've fucked every maid I had in my place and even a home health aide nurse.

Balboa
11-24-20, 01:13
Honestly I don't think I will ever understand them verbally. They speak too fast. Next journey english speaking country. I am not stuck to Colombia. I am under the weather and so I appreciate your peaceful post to agree to disagree.

.Hope you feel better!

I agree with you that if you're not stuck on Spanish speaking places, why learn?

Phrase book Spanish will suffice and google translate.

It's not just a quick course and you're good, it's a commitment really, a journey.

I started with knowing only "juevos rancheros" to speaking pretty fluent now.

But damn did I study and practice, practice, practice, LOL.

Truly motivated by pussy, those were my days of the DR and having an apartment in Guatemala, LOL.

Then I discovered Venezuela and Colombia!

Now Brasil, well 15 years or so ago, yikes I'm dating myself!

Portuguese is a more fun language for me cause it has more of a flair, but harder to learn IMO due to pronounciation.

Speaking spanish helped immensely. Very similar grammar and vocabulary.

Anyway, we've beat that subject up!

I'm heading back to Medellin this week!

Met a few I got to get back to! LOL.

Get well brotha Blakman.

Balbonehead out!

(sorry for stealing your line. PN).

Knowledge
11-24-20, 01:24
What's become of Pollo Negro? It's been quite a while since he posted. I thought about him this afternoon when I was in Plaza Botero. Something else I thought about there are the guys who mentioned some of the girls look younger than in the past. I'm not sure if it's because it's been mentioned and something I just tune out or if it really is a trend. I kind of see what guys were getting at.


Hope you feel better!

I agree with you that if you're not stuck on Spanish speaking places, why learn?

Phrase book Spanish will suffice and google translate.

It's not just a quick course and you're good, it's a commitment really, a journey.

I started with knowing only "juevos rancheros" to speaking pretty fluent now.

But damn did I study and practice, practice, practice, LOL.

Truly motivated by pussy, those were my days of the DR and having an apartment in Guatemala, LOL..

Chicafan
11-24-20, 01:28
Either my perception has changed or the looks of girls at every venue seems to have gone up. Other than the La Isla girl, my experiences were all excellent.

I realize my mileage may vary but which venues would you recommend then? Perhaps the covid economy has forced some good looking girls to review their options. Pre covid I saw some pretty weak lineups.

Knowledge
11-24-20, 01:43
"Non pro" means different thing to different people. To me it means nothing at all.


How is non pros in Colombia? In the great DR vs Colombia debate even the DR sexpats say that Colombia is better, When asked why are they in the DR they say that it's easier to go after nonpros even if you hardly speak spanish. I've fucked every maid I had in my place and even a home health aide nurse.

Blakman
11-24-20, 02:14
No experience in that area


How is non pros in Colombia? In the great DR vs Colombia debate even the DR sexpats say that Colombia is better, When asked why are they in the DR they say that it's easier to go after nonpros even if you hardly speak spanish. I've fucked every maid I had in my place and even a home health aide nurse..

Blakman
11-24-20, 02:23
My becho has not talk to me in 4 days. Yes I need to get better. But great stuff learning 2 languages. I transfered my will to learn to my daughters. Go Cardinals.


Hope you feel better!

I agree with you that if you're not stuck on Spanish speaking places, why learn?

Phrase book Spanish will suffice and google translate.

It's not just a quick course and you're good, it's a commitment really, a journey.

I started with knowing only "juevos rancheros" to speaking pretty fluent now.

But damn did I study and practice, practice, practice, LOL.

Truly motivated by pussy, those were my days of the DR and having an apartment in Guatemala, LOL.

Then I discovered Venezuela and Colombia!

Now Brasil, well 15 years or so ago, yikes I'm dating myself!

Portuguese is a more fun language for me cause it has more of a flair, but harder to learn IMO due to pronounciation.

Speaking spanish helped immensely. Very similar grammar and vocabulary.

Anyway, we've beat that subject up!

I'm heading back to Medellin this week!

Met a few I got to get back to! LOL.

Get well brotha Blakman.

Balbonehead out!

(sorry for stealing your line. PN)..

Nyezhov
11-24-20, 02:32
All due respect Knowledge, and I don't know how many times you have been to Thailand, but I have been there at least a dozen times, and the majority of the women speak English, much more so than the women in Colombia. They have to speak English and other languages to survive there because the clients are all foreigners. I never had any communication issues in Thailand with the women not speaking a word of Thai, versus the issues mongers in Colombia have who don't speak any Spanish. This is just a fact I know others who have been to Thailand can attest to.

Other than that I agree with your assessment, and can't wait for Thailand to open back up as I have so many good memories. And yes, I roll the same way there that I do in Medellin, pulling from the street.Well I have been going to Thailand for 25 ish years, and have been living off and on in Bangkok for the past 5. I'm here in Cambodia right now riding out the virus, having left Thailand because of the lousy air, nasty immigration rules, xenophobia and potential political unrest. Cartagena may be my next destination, unless Thailand changes.

But to the point the majority of the women I have run into in a mongering sense don't speak English, or its broken. They know how to say 3000 baht or whatever the price is. That's about it. You get by with pidgen, gestures, broken Thai and Google translate. Never affected my enjoyment. I have found that the more broken my Thai is, the cuter I look.

I don't understand what the problem is regarding the English level of gals in Columbia, especially for guys from the USA. Everybody I know speaks a wisp, at least of Spanish, or a variety thereof since there are so many different spanish speakers in the USA. Its not hard to learn, Mi Espanol es muy malo, pardon, por favor, hablar a me despacio. Attempts to fumble around in another language can be endearing.

Osteoknot
11-24-20, 02:37
Way back in the day (even before answering machines) it used to give me a strange thrill to fuck a guy's wife or fiance while she was taking a call him, but, for sure if you're paying for it, phones or teevee are. No.And then call her husband for delivery of the dinner while she's waiting in the bedroom? Jejeje the devil made me do it. I was a lot wilder then. Now I got them scruples.

Nyezhov
11-24-20, 02:52
Its really an amazing experience and the immensity of it. The amount of money flow through that place is incredible. And the service of the women is so girlfriend friendly.Walking Street is fini. No more.

Mr Enternational
11-24-20, 03:28
How is non pros in Colombia? In the great DR vs Colombia debate even the DR sexpats say that Colombia is better, When asked why are they in the DR they say that it's easier to go after nonpros even if you hardly speak spanish. I've fucked every maid I had in my place and even a home health aide nurse.Don't know if you have ever hung out in rural areas, but the overall population of DR is comparable to rural area dwellers; meaning they are simple and not sophisticated. They are low-hanging fruit. This also means they are more apt to use or call themselves using their feminine wiles, whether they are hookers or not. Even a lot of Dominican chicks that I have met that take money in exchange for fucking do not consider themselves as hookers. Wrap your mind around that one since the literal definition of a hooker is a chick that takes money for fucking. You can be driving down the street and see a chick waiting for a bus or something then pull over and pick her up and go to a motel and fuck her. Give her like $10 or $15 or something. I have done it plenty of times before.

Cutting to the chase, eventually 90% of Dominican chicks that are not hookers are going to end up asking you for money. In Colombia chicks that are really not hookers are not going to be asking you for money like that. Whether it is easy to get involved with them I will not give any advice on. I speak Spanish and never really have time for hookers when I am in Colombia because I deal with so many chicks that are not hookers.

BootyBandit84
11-24-20, 03:40
This trip was both a disaster and my best trip. That's the way things go sometimes.

The non-pro stuff didn't pan out at all. Other than the ride from the airport, which was quite enjoyable, a nice dinner with 2 girls and a long lunch with another, there was no return on that effort. It might have been different if I hadn't gotten sick, but probably not. One of the girls still has potential, but I'm not putting any effort there, other than to reply to messages.

San Peter Apartments made for a reasonable stay, when my original plan fell through. They're chica friendly and clean, with all the basics you need. Given a choice, get one of the top floor rooms, they're quieter.

Laureles is still a great place to get around, with excellent food choices practically on every street. I even went vegetarian a few days.

Uber and Didi seem to be a better bet than taxis. Seems like more taxis are trying to cheat customers now.

Either my perception has changed or the looks of girls at every venue seems to have gone up. Other than the La Isla girl, my experiences were all excellent.

What made the trip my best were all the guys I met and hung out with. I normally do my own thing, but this trip I spent part of most the days with other mongers. A few were guys I already knew, but most were new introductions. Thanks to everyone for making the most of it with me.Sorry to hear the non pro situation didn't pan out like you hoped, I was definitely rooting for you. Also wanted to thank you for all the advise and taking time out of your trip to show a noob like me around the city, it was a huge help and I appreciate it! If we are ever in the city at the same time we have hang out again.

Mr Enternational
11-24-20, 04:00
Thailand is a top punter destination. Many rave about the experience yet very very few speak Thai. Is there something special about Spanish (other than the fact it is easier for non native speakers to learn) that makes it so important to some? Maybe there is no expectation in Thailand or Eastern Europe of the enhanced experience described by the must speak Spanish faction?I will explain why that was a bad example. Thailand is an anomaly. When a monger goes to monger in Thailand or even a tourist goes to Thailand, they are not seeing the real Thailand in places like Pattaya and Phuket. Those places were created for foreign tourists. I really did not realize this until 5 years ago when I took my girlfriend on a trip to Koh Tao. While there it struck me that absolutely no Thai people were vacationing there. It was ALL foreigners. Even 95% of the service people were from like Myanmar and other countries close by. There I was on a poppin island in Thailand and there weren't any Thai people. I was like where are the Thai people. My girlfriend said: 1. They can't afford vacation like that. 2. The people that can afford it go to colder climates such as Korea for vacation. So here we were in Thailand on a whole island that was made just to cater to foreigners.

If you go to Walking Street in Pattaya or Bangla Road in Phuket or Soi Cowboy in Bangkok, you are not going to find normal Thai men that are out to party or whatever. You are not going to hear Thai music besides the occasional one new wave song they will play every so often to hype the girls up. These are places for foreigners.

When Thai chicks go to these places to pick up foreigners they know they will need English. So they study it in the music and the TV. They adapt to languages and shit better and faster than any other culture (food not so much). I used to mess with a chick that I met in the club all because I had on a Brazil Jersey and she started speaking Portuguese to me. I was shocked. Long story short she met a Brazilian guy in Pattaya and he had her come to Sao Paulo. He put her in an apartment but turns out he was married. He would not buy her a ticket back. She said she got a dictionary and started watching TV and that is how she learned Portuguese. She got a job at a bakery but it got raided and she got deported back to Thailand. If you go to Thailand you will find Thai chicks speaking all kinds of languages because they cater to the men they deal with: Arabic, Japanese, Hindi, German, Swedish, Russian, and the list goes on. It amazes me.

Anyway. The scenes in most other places in the world are different. They are local scenes that foreigners have gone over to infiltrate. Sure you have your Gustos, Help Discos, and Del Reys and Mansions, but seriously those don't count for anything. As someone was saying the other day 99% of the customers in the casas and strip clubs are local Colombians. Why the hell would these chicks need to learn English for 1% of the customers? They don't! It is Colombia and they have no agenda to create for or cater to foreigners. Get in where you fit in.

Triple Darknes
11-24-20, 04:03
Don't know if you have ever hung out in rural areas, but the overall population of DR is comparable to rural area dwellers; meaning they are simple and not sophisticated. They are low-hanging fruit. This also means they are more apt to use or call themselves using their feminine wiles, whether they are hookers or not. Even a lot of Dominican chicks that I have met that take money in exchange for fucking do not consider themselves as hookers. Wrap your mind around that one since the literal definition of a hooker is a chick that takes money for fucking. You can be driving down the street and see a chick waiting for a bus or something then pull over and pick her up and go to a motel and fuck her. Give her like $10 or $15 or something. I have done it plenty of times before.

Cutting to the chase, eventually 90% of Dominican chicks that are not hookers are going to end up asking you for money. In Colombia chicks that are really not hookers are not going to be asking you for money like that. Whether it is easy to get involved with them I will not give any advice on. I speak Spanish and never really have time for hookers when I am in Colombia because I deal with so many chicks that are not hookers.I noticed that about the DR and that's one of it's charms. It's like Kenya in that regard but it's actually worse in the DR it's the culture. I haven't spent time in the country but on a trip to Santiago from SD I saw chicks on the road who wasn't selling fruits or whatever. They seemed availible. If I weren't with my chica I would've stopped to find out.

The funny thing is One of the first chicas I met here was through her amiga in New York, I was noob and the New York Dominicana told me to call her when I touched down. I legit thought she was going to hook me up with an actual person who was going to show me around. Anyway I linked up with her and she invited me up to her home town.

I have experience of being a Yankee in small town Jamaica so I told her that I didn't want to embrass her buy fucking half the choice chicas in her town, She told me when you're with me you're with me when you're with someone else you're with them.

Jamaica is kinda like DR but again fucking chicks who aren't actually working is very easy here and I don't even speak spanish. I don't know if you remember my eariler DR posts but I was just a bit too direct at first, I learned to keep things vague and let it play out.

Back to Colombia I'd kinda want the same treatment when I go, Going to Parque LLeras will get old to me afterwhile.

Trip.

Triple Darknes
11-24-20, 04:12
No experience in that area

.I'm researching a future Colombia trip, I'm actually more interested in Cali and Bucamaranga but those forums don't pop like the Meddy forum does. Everyone raves about the beauty of Paisa women, but a lot talk about how flaky they can be, add in the prominent (if rare) druggings and people talking about CBJ's. I kinda sorta understand this especially in COVID times in high traffic areas like casas but frankly I consider a CBJ as a insult. If a chick is beautiful I might accept one in a casa or a massage parlor but but not from a street pick up in a non mongering area like a mall or meeting her at her job.

Triple Darknes
11-24-20, 04:22
"Non pro" means different thing to different people. To me it means nothing at all.You're correct but meeting a chica that I got her what's app from at her job I had to ask her because I learned not to be too direct. No Spanish or Spanish with a heavy american accent if she gives you her number it's consent. Maybe you treat her to a meal but she knows she's going to your places immediately to fuck and she's not going to ask you for money if she doesn't do this full time but just like you expect pussy they expect money.

I talked to a Tinder date today and she asked me what I wanted and it seemed like she hinted at payment. Since you can't say anything about payment on tinder I told her. "I'm an american in the DR who does speak spanish but it doesn't hinder me in meeting new friends and I'm on Tinder in the DR We can talk about it on our date or you can swing by the house. ".

She agreed to meet at the mall and offered to help me learn spanish. I've had a lot of Spanish lessons but I prefer her speaking french without a translator and none of them even asked for a condom for head.

I expect the same in Colombia. Is that likely?

Trip.

Lucky Nuts
11-24-20, 05:15
The reason opinions vary so much on this issue is because different guys are looking for different things from the girls. I know guys who come to MDE and speak no spanish but still want to hang out first with the chica in a bar or cook her dinner and only able to communicate thru their phones. They get more out of the session if it feels like a date. Good for them different strokes for different folks. I speak enough spanish to converse with the chicas but after ten minutes of that I want her to put on her lingerie regalito and start the fun. After about an hour and a half I want to pay her to leave so I can focus on finding the next one. I would never waste a second leche on the same chica.

I just got home from 5 weeks in Kiev Ukraine where most speak only Russian but a few, maybe 20 percent, can speak enough english to communicate. There was zero correlation between ability to communciate and quality of the sessions. But again I don't need to turn it into a date to enjoy having sex with them. Usually I just want the physical part. And I love talking dirty to them in English when they don't understand what I'm saying LOL but they seem to enjoy that shit.

But yeah over the years I did have one in Medellin I fell for and it was great being able to communicate but she was a unicorn. Damn I hate thinking about her LOL, she dropped me when she started making a good living off webcam. Nice girl still talks to me anyhow.

I'll be back in town in a few days if anyone wants to meet up for a beer and/or a hunt.

JjBee62
11-24-20, 12:03
Interesting comment about the looks of the girls. I know you didn't frequent El Centro much, but I noticed the opposite in El Centro, or at least nothing better than before.

A friend of mine who is there now, and has been staying in El Cento since the beginning of November told me when I met him that he thought the looks or quality of the girls had actually gone down in his opinion since before the Pandemic, he's a street rat and doesn't venture into the clubs or casa's. I think he was talking more about the quality of the Vennies than anything else.

Glad to hear you had a good trip, and now you get to sit on the sidelines like me for hopefully a short period of time playing Monday morning quarterback at times.I only did 2 rounds through El Centro, so I have less to go on than you. However, I didn't see any of the fat grannies hanging around. That alone, in my book brings the baseline up. I also saw more of a downward trend in age. Of course that gets into the questionable range.

JjBee62
11-24-20, 12:04
What's become of Pollo Negro? It's been quite a while since he posted. I thought about him this afternoon when I was in Plaza Botero. Something else I thought about there are the guys who mentioned some of the girls look younger than in the past. I'm not sure if it's because it's been mentioned and something I just tune out or if it really is a trend. I kind of see what guys were getting at.I heard he went back to the states last week.

JjBee62
11-24-20, 12:08
I realize my mileage may vary but which venues would you recommend then? Perhaps the covid economy has forced some good looking girls to review their options. Pre covid I saw some pretty weak lineups.For the price, I'd recommend Barra Ejecutivo. The quality is close to La Isla, but much cheaper. If you want the overall experience, skip Fase Dos and hit La Isla. You'll spend the same and have a much more satisfying night.

SlapShot10
11-24-20, 14:17
Something else I thought about there are the guys who mentioned some of the girls look younger than in the past. I'm not sure if it's because it's been mentioned and something I just tune out or if it really is a trend. I kind of see what guys were getting at.The last time I went for a street sweep in Centro, which was maybe July, there was a group of girls trying to force some youngin on me. They kept crossing my path near Veracruz, Raudal, and everywhere in between. With the talk in the past about the CCTV being prominent in the area, I was trying to zig when they zagged, and eventually I went and sat in front of the museum. At the time, I mentioned I saw several that looked to be too young. Now, I think we discussed that locals have different laws. I was just telling a girl to knock this shit off, on Facebook. She is 17 and she poses on FB and Tinder as her 22 yo sister. She told me, there's no problem, I'm of age. I said, no, there's a big fucking problem. Please don't talk to gringos. Michelle Palacios for those who want to countdown until August.


No experience in that area

.Blaktothetoiletman, how are you feeling? I'm pretty sure I came down with COVID, or a 24-hour flu. Sunday morning I was puking, all day I had a fever with body aches. Mid-day, I had a rigorous romp that I thought I was going to pass out from, because of lack of oxygen. Yesterday, I woke up feeling pretty good, aside from a stiff neck that loosened up quickly. Today, I woke up with cold sweats, when it was still dark out. Then, by 7 a I felt fine. I don't think I'll have them shove something into my face, I'll probably wait and do the antibody test. However, if some one wants to educate me, I'm all ears.

Your No-Spanish argument is futile. For ST putas, of course it's not necessary. For picture menus, DiDi (which in some cases you do need it), Messaging 3 hours 2 leches 1 bowl of popcorn. Of course, it's not necessary. However, every non-pro I've banged, who did, at minimum, your standard offer, but without a payment and maybe sub steak or chicken instead of popcorn, commented how well I spoke Spanish. Now, they say this with a twinkle in their eye. It makes them think 1) I've put in effort, 2) This will be a good night, and 3) We can be together forever. I think you're ideology that you're providing a fire playlist, snacks, and great dick, while likely being true, is not unique, whatsoever. Fuck, throw in WiFi, hot water, weed. None of it is unique. What is she going to tell her friends? Ya, go see this guy, he has popcorn! He fucked me good! He fucked me like he's been stuck in the US for 2 months. There are gringos and Colombians doing that to some broad, as I type this. Also, in the world of non-mongering, you can meet some pretty cool people if you speak the local language. Some people that can help you with several things, which when you are a cheap charlie, maybe it would off-set the time and effort of learning.

I don't think you should or need to learn the language, but saying it has no effect is narrowing your view to just ST putas. For instance, my La Isla negotiation. The chick likely would have ended up just walking away if you're haggling via Google Translate about seeing her outside the club instead of inside or paying the bar fine. I was able to quickly ask the right questions, understand the situation, and make a counter-offer as the lights came on. I think you'd be very pleasantly surprised by the pay-off.

Anyway, on Sunday, I finally broke down to the offer of an older gringo to come see my apartment and have a little party. I gave him a short list of Pinky's friends that were possibly available. I think he genuinely enjoyed our little jacuzzi party, and then he sealed the deal with one chica. It was either 200 or 250 k. Not sure if the party or COVID led to me puking 3 gallons of water, but we had a good time.

Side note, Ay Wey got caught being open after curfew, and is shutdown until Dec 2. They're appealing (see: paying), but no news, yet. So, plan to watch your Turkey Day football at Hooters, Patrick's, etc.

Blakman
11-24-20, 14:38
Fortunately for me my illness was do to overtraining and severe dehydration. I am actually using it as covid precaution to be more careful certain places I go to. I am cruising this trip. I just want to make it home without covid. I won't be back to Colombia so fuck learning spanish but applaud all of yall who took time to learn it. Slappricing. You pay the prime amount for chicas so you should have no problem getting chicas. I think anyone willing to pay 200k to 350k for 1hr can have any girl coming to their home whether they speak spanish or not. Theres no skill to that. Might guarantee a volume of experience. Especially with a beauty thats desirable. Slapshot your reference to la isla. You negotiated a 1,000000 to 500k. Thats bad skills management. Obviously she isnt worth 1,000000 so she or pinky pulled one on you


The last time I went for a street sweep in Centro, which was maybe July, there was a group of girls trying to force some youngin on me. They kept crossing my path near Veracruz, Raudal, and everywhere in between. With the talk in the past about the CCTV being prominent in the area, I was trying to zig when they zagged, and eventually I went and sat in front of the museum. At the time, I mentioned I saw several that looked to be too young. Now, I think we discussed that locals have different laws. I was just telling a girl to knock this shit off, on Facebook. She is 17 and she poses on FB and Tinder as her 22 yo sister. She told me, there's no problem, I'm of age. I said, no, there's a big fucking problem. Please don't talk to gringos. Michelle Palacios for those who want to countdown until August.

Blaktothetoiletman, how are you feeling? I'm pretty sure I came down with COVID, or a 24-hour flu. Sunday morning I was puking, all day I had a fever with body aches. Mid-day, I had a rigorous romp that I thought I was going to pass out from, because of lack of oxygen. Yesterday, I woke up feeling pretty good, aside from a stiff neck that loosened up quickly. Today, I woke up with cold sweats, when it was still dark out. Then, by 7 a I felt fine. I don't think I'll have them shove something into my face, I'll probably wait and do the antibody test. However, if some one wants to educate me, I'm all ears.

Your No-Spanish argument is futile. For ST putas, of course it's not necessary. For picture menus, DiDi (which in some cases you do need it), Messaging 3 hours 2 leches 1 bowl of popcorn. Of course, it's not necessary. However, every non-pro I've banged, who did, at minimum, your standard offer, but without a payment and maybe sub steak or chicken instead of popcorn, commented how well I spoke Spanish. Now, they say this with a twinkle in their eye. It makes them think 1) I've put in effort, 2) This will be a good night, and 3) We can be together forever. I think you're ideology that you're providing a fire playlist, snacks, and great dick, while likely being true, is not unique, whatsoever. Fuck, throw in WiFi, hot water, weed. None of it is unique. What is she going to tell her friends? Ya, go see this guy, he has popcorn! He fucked me good! He fucked me like he's been stuck in the US for 2 months. There are gringos and Colombians doing that to some broad, as I type this. Also, in the world of non-mongering, you can meet some pretty cool people if you speak the local language. Some people that can help you with several things, which when you are a cheap charlie, maybe it would off-set the time and effort of learning.

I don't think you should or need to learn the language, but saying it has no effect is narrowing your view to just ST putas. For instance, my La Isla negotiation. The chick likely would have ended up just walking away if you're haggling via Google Translate about seeing her outside the club instead of inside or paying the bar fine. I was able to quickly ask the right questions, understand the situation, and make a counter-offer as the lights came on. I think you'd be very pleasantly surprised by the pay-off.

Anyway, on Sunday, I finally broke down to the offer of an older gringo to come see my apartment and have a little party. I gave him a short list of Pinky's friends that were possibly available. I think he genuinely enjoyed our little jacuzzi party, and then he sealed the deal with one chica. It was either 200 or 250 k. Not sure if the party or COVID led to me puking 3 gallons of water, but we had a good time.

Side note, Ay Wey got caught being open after curfew, and is shutdown until Dec 2. They're appealing (see: paying), but no news, yet. So, plan to watch your Turkey Day football at Hooters, Patrick's, etc..

PolloNegro
11-24-20, 15:58
What's become of Pollo Negro? It's been quite a while since he posted. I thought about him this afternoon when I was in Plaza Botero. Something else I thought about there are the guys who mentioned some of the girls look younger than in the past. I'm not sure if it's because it's been mentioned and something I just tune out or if it really is a trend. I kind of see what guys were getting at.I am home, gathering resources and plotting my next business adventure in Medellin. I am trying to figure out how to obtain a cedula extranjero, it was the only thing that slowed my progress down as far as staying in Medellin and actually earning money from Colombians. Otherwise everything else was great. I am home doing a little exercising as I gained a lot of weight being in Medellin during the quarantine. I will return real soon for a short stay sometime in January, and then I will take a 6 month break to gather up resources for my next adventure.

Here in America you can move around a little more than you could during the quarantine, just the walking and exercising has shredded some pounds off of me, none of which I could do while in Medellin. The areas in which I stayed, I didn't know them well enough to walk around without getting lost, so I stayed mostly inside unless I returned to Centro. I am trying to figure out the process of obtaining a cedula extranjero and then I can carry out some of my plans like buying a car, motorcycle, renting an apartment at the Colombian rate for services without going through a third party. There are many business opportunities in Medellin if you study the people.

I have many great memories and fotos from my 8 month stay. I will post some of the photos when I get a chance to as I have been super busy since I returned to America. I came home took a Covid test, it was negative after 8 months, but I did limit myself to the people that I was around for long periods of time. I have some super great stories to tell, I just have been reading the stories of others and allowing them to have fun while they are in Medellin. I am enjoying reading many of the adventures. So Pollo Negro is alive and well, just busy gathering resources to return to Colombia!! To All BMs in Medellin, enjoy and bang as many Paisas and Vennies as you can! Pollo Negro is out!

VsebudetNY
11-24-20, 16:12
Fortunately for me my illness was do to overtraining and severe dehydration. I am actually using it as covid precaution to be more careful certain places I go to. I am cruising this trip. I just want to make it home without covid..Blakman, did you take any medication to recover?

Blakman
11-24-20, 16:27
That is it. I did a work out today so health is good. Watching porn seeing if dick is good to go.


Blakman, did you take any medication to recover?

Blakman
11-24-20, 16:41
Okay now that me and my dick is friends again I am ready to go. So I have been chasing the cartegena sisters I saw at Gusto. Both very attractive young ladies nice height and wonderful bodies. The price starts out at 450 mil. Obviously she thinks I am slapshot. Finally today she accepts 250 and seems thirsty so I throw in 2 hrs on the deal along with oral no condom. I told her tomorrow if she's available. Getting these 2 sisters will make my trip. I might take a stab tonight if she's available.

The Tall Man
11-24-20, 17:16
What's become of Pollo Negro? It's been quite a while since he posted. I thought about him this afternoon when I was in Plaza Botero. Something else I thought about there are the guys who mentioned some of the girls look younger than in the past. I'm not sure if it's because it's been mentioned and something I just tune out or if it really is a trend. I kind of see what guys were getting at.He is good, alive and well and back in the US working his profession. We are connected on social media so I see his status a few times a week.

The Tall Man.

The Tall Man
11-24-20, 17:21
Okay now that me and my dick is friends again I am ready to go. So I have been chasing the cartegena sisters I saw at Gusto. Both very attractive young ladies nice height and wonderful bodies. The price starts out at 450 mil. Obviously she thinks I am slapshot. Finally today she accepts 250 and seems thirsty so I throw in 2 hrs on the deal along with oral no condom. I told her tomorrow if she's available. Getting these 2 sisters will make my trip. I might take a stab tonight if she's available.2 sisters is fun for nothing more than the odds of banging two sisters.

Now my best Colombian paisa buddy whom I party with often and chase the bitches has had 3 sisters, all 3 and he took them down one at a time, he started with the youngest of 18 yo then worked his way to the older sister of 20 yo then completed his mission with the eldest sibling at 23 yo. Luck bastard and I only banged the 20 yo but time is still left to hunt down and conquer her two other sisters, hehehe.

The Tall Man.

Blakman
11-24-20, 18:40
Could kill the deal. But at 250. I don't want to pay taxi and I want oral no condom. That may be the deal breaker.


2 sisters is fun for nothing more than the odds of banging two sisters.

Now my best Colombian paisa buddy whom I party with often and chase the bitches has had 3 sisters, all 3 and he took them down one at a time, he started with the youngest of 18 yo then worked his way to the older sister of 20 yo then completed his mission with the eldest sibling at 23 yo. Luck bastard and I only banged the 20 yo but time is still left to hunt down and conquer her two other sisters, hehehe.

The Tall Man..

Chicafan
11-24-20, 19:35
For the price, I'd recommend Barra Ejecutivo. The quality is close to La Isla, but much cheaper. If you want the overall experience, skip Fase Dos and hit La Isla. You'll spend the same and have a much more satisfying night.I guess they are all three worth a look. What I remember Fase Dos pre Covid is the surprising lack of talent compared to previous visits going back several years. It seemed that for the most part amateur freelancers were showing up just to troll and see what they could scrape up. Not impressive. Still fun but from a talent standpoint it was not great.

Knowledge
11-24-20, 19:48
Fair enough, he put in his time here.


I heard he went back to the states last week.

JjBee62
11-24-20, 19:52
I am home, gathering resources and plotting my next business adventure in Medellin. I am trying to figure out how to obtain a cedula extranjero, it was the only thing that slowed my progress down as far as staying in Medellin and actually earning money from Colombians. Otherwise everything else was great. I am home doing a little exercising as I gained a lot of weight being in Medellin during the quarantine. I will return real soon for a short stay sometime in January, and then I will take a 6 month break to gather up resources for my next adventure.

Here in America you can move around a little more than you could during the quarantine, just the walking and exercising has shredded some pounds off of me, none of which I could do while in Medellin. The areas in which I stayed, I didn't know them well enough to walk around without getting lost, so I stayed mostly inside unless I returned to Centro. I am trying to figure out the process of obtaining a cedula extranjero and then I can carry out some of my plans like buying a car, motorcycle, renting an apartment at the Colombian rate for services without going through a third party. There are many business opportunities in Medellin if you study the people.

I have many great memories and fotos from my 8 month stay. I will post some of the photos when I get a chance to as I have been super busy since I returned to America.Getting the cedula de extranjero is pretty easy, but first you have to get any visa that's longer than 90 days (extending the tourist visa doesn't count. Once you have your visa, you're required to apply for the cedula within 14 days (or within 14 days after returning to Colombia if you get the Visa from a Colombian Consulate in the US.

In Colombia, take your passport, with visa, along with copies of your visa and passport main page, to the Migración office. You'll also need a blood type certificate. I got mine at Clinica Las Vegas. It took about 30 minutes to get results and cost 9500 COP. They'll review your paperwork, have you fingerprinted and photographed, then send you to the bank to pay the fee. Bring back the receipt and you're all set. If I remember correctly, you can go back and pick it up in about 2 weeks.

Getting the Visa is the trickier part. If you get it while in Colombia you have to go to Bogota to the Migración office there. Each type of Visa has a financial requirement. You need to show the previous 6 months of your bank balance showing an average above the requirement for your particular visa. The amount is based on multiples of the minimum monthly wage. Each visa has it's own requirement. I'll cover how to get the student visa.

For a student visa, you first need to prepay for classes at an accredited school. Since you're already fluent in Spanish this saves you money. The Spanish for foreigners courses are the most expensive. If you prepay for 3 months of courses you can get a 6 month visa, 6 months of courses for a 1 year visa. The school will give you the paperwork once you've paid. 20 hours of classroom study meets the requirement for 1 month. That's just 1 class.

The University will probably require proof of international health insurance.

You will also need to write a letter to Migración. It's a simple letter saying you accept financial responsibility to leave Colombia once your visa expires or once you are ineligible for it.

The Migración website covers all the finer details. Once you have everything ready you can upload it (in PDF format) which speeds up the interview process. Plan on spending a few hours at the Bogota Migración office in total.

You can also get the Visa without leaving Medellín, but that requires sending your passport to Bogota. I'm don't have that much faith in Colombia to do that.

Knowledge
11-24-20, 19:55
Good to hear. We will keep the home fires burning for you. By the way, you don't need a cedula to purchase a vehicle or rent / buy an apartment. You do need a visa that is not for tourism to avoid the 90 day stay limit and renewal hassle. You research will show you the various options. An investment visa of 3 or 5 years may work well for you. Good luck, stay well, and hurry back.


I am home, gathering resources and plotting my next business adventure in Medellin. I am trying to figure out how to obtain a cedula extranjero, it was the only thing that slowed my progress down as far as staying in Medellin and actually earning money from Colombians. Otherwise everything else was great. I am home doing a little exercising as I gained a lot of weight being in Medellin during the quarantine. I will return real soon for a short stay sometime in January, and then I will take a 6 month break to gather up resources for my next adventure.

Here in America you can move around a little more than you could during the quarantine, just the walking and exercising has shredded some pounds off of me, none of which I could do while in Medellin. The areas in which I stayed, I didn't know them well enough to walk around without getting lost, so I stayed mostly inside unless I returned to Centro. I am trying to figure out the process of obtaining a cedula extranjero and then I can carry out some of my plans like buying a car, motorcycle, renting an apartment at the Colombian rate for services without going through a third party. There are many business opportunities in Medellin if you study the people.

JjBee62
11-24-20, 21:08
This is not as big of a list asI would like, but my illness kept me from checking out several other places. I only ate hamburgers twice this trip and both were for different girls and different reasons.

Classic Diner. This is Colombia's take on the 50's Malt shop, located in Envigado, off Avenida Poblado, about 1 or 2 blocks north of the Calle de Buena Mesa area. Heading south on Avenida Poblado look for the White archway on the right. There are several restaurants in the complex with a variety of food. Burgers, hotdogs, french fries, onion rings malts and shakes. Food is pretty good and it's a cool atmosphere. If you've ever been to the Corvette Diner in San Diego, California, it's somewhat similar.

Chef Burger Centro Comercial Viva. This was the choice of the non-pro I wasted time with. I've eaten at other Chef Burger locations, my favorite is at Los Contenadores in Envigado. Their burgers are consistently good. As a side note, CC Viva is currently the largest mall in South America and worth a visit, if you like people watching at the mall. Plenty of good restaurants, although my favorite, Patatas al Cielo, was closed.

SaludPan in Laureles. If you're walking south on La 70, turn right at Mondongos and it's less than 2 blocks on the right. It's a bakery, restaurant and health food store all rolled into one. Menu of the day has vegan, vegetarian, chicken and fish options every day. The price is around 17 k depending on your choices. I don't often eat vegetarian, but did it 3 times here. It's the only place I visited more than once. Thanks to Villiany for the recommendation.

Full Arabe in Laureles. This place has been on my favorites list for 3 years. It serves Lebanese food and I've never been disappointed. I've probably recommended this restaurant more than any other. Plan on spending about 25 k each for a good dinner. From San Peter Apartments, step out the door and turn right. It's less than a block away on the left.

Ajua. This is a somewhat trendy taco bar with at least 2 locations. In Laureles, walking south on La 70 it's towards the south end on the left. In Parque Lleras, turn right at The Beer Store and it's about a block down on the right. Tacos are 5 k each and they have a few different hot sauces available.

The Greek Connection in Parque Lleras. This is another long time favorite. It's expensive, drinks appetizers and entrees can exceed $30 per person, but the food is excellent. Some nights they have a belly dancer performing and customers are given a chance to join in the fun by breaking a plate. I don't know if there is a charge. My mother would spin in her grave if I intentionally broke a plate.

Orale, various locations. This is a common chain of Mexican restaurants in Medellin. Food is good and dependable. There's a seafood version right next door to San Peter Apartments and a regular one just 1 block in the opposite direction.

El Botanico in Provenza. This is about as upscale as I ever go. I'm usually happy paying 10 k for a plate lunch with guarapo. However, when the urge for decadence hits, this is my favorite. It's located on Carrera 33 just off Calle 7. It's nice and quiet so you can have a conversation, the seats are comfortable (almost unheard of in Colombia) and the service is excellent. Try the cocktail called "Spicy. " It's an experience worth the price.

Buen provecho!

Surfer500
11-24-20, 22:07
Good to hear. We will keep the home fires burning for you. By the way, you don't need a cedula to purchase a vehicle or rent / buy an apartment. You do need a visa that is not for tourism to avoid the 90 day stay limit and renewal hassle. You research will show you the various options. An investment visa of 3 or 5 years may work well for you. Good luck, stay well, and hurry back.The investment visa for five years is actually a "resident visa" as long as you own the investment and are not away from the Country for longer than a two year period. My friend has one, and it's is good forever, not requiring renewal with the only thing needed to be renewed is the Cedula, which he just renewed after five years. The downside of getting the Resident visa though is you have to make a sizable investment, and they have tightened up the regulations for obtaining one, including having to pay into the Colombian social security system I think it's called EPS just like in the USA if you have income, and you need to be signed up for Colombian Health insurance. The other downside is if your in Country more than six months, you are considered a Colombian tax resident, and can be subject to taxes, and a potential wealth tax if you are very wealthy. And most foreigners with a resident visa don't stay in the Country more than six months because Colombian taxes are very high.

SlapShot10
11-24-20, 22:15
Fortunately for me my illness was do to overtraining and severe dehydration. I am actually using it as covid precaution to be more careful certain places I go to. I am cruising this trip. I just want to make it home without covid. I won't be back to Colombia so fuck learning spanish but applaud all of yall who took time to learn it. Slappricing. You pay the prime amount for chicas so you should have no problem getting chicas. I think anyone willing to pay 200k to 350k for 1hr can have any girl coming to their home whether they speak spanish or not. Theres no skill to that. Might guarantee a volume of experience. Especially with a beauty thats desirable. Slapshot your reference to la isla. You negotiated a 1,000000 to 500k. Thats bad skills management. Obviously she isnt worth 1,000000 so she or pinky pulled one on you

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Okay now that me and my dick is friends again I am ready to go. So I have been chasing the cartegena sisters I saw at Gusto. Both very attractive young ladies nice height and wonderful bodies. The price starts out at 450 mil. Obviously she thinks I am slapshot. Finally today she accepts 250 and seems thirsty so I throw in 2 hrs on the deal along with oral no condom. I told her tomorrow if she's available. Getting these 2 sisters will make my trip. I might take a stab tonight if she's available.Blabacusman, I won't go too deep in to the numbers, but I will just say 1. 000.000 to 500.000 is better negotiating than 450.000 to 250.000 - also, 800.000 for a La Isla girl is about the same chicas are asking at your new favorite spot, Gusto. So, add a bar fine, and that's that. I didn't meet her in Centro and get quoted 1 MM. Also, I don't think I ever pay 250-300 for an hour. During quarantine, maybe once or twice, when I was using an "agency" and thus, paid that type of pricing. Many of my repeats have been around 150-200 k and never with a set time constraint. Where are you off to, after Kenya? Colombia seems like it's a good fit, for you. Pricing, GFE, Cost of Living, maybe travel plays into it, etc. I'd guess Brasil or Thailand, but don't be afraid to send GPS coordinates if you find a untouched diamond mine. Also, are these chicks really sisters, or are they sistuhs? If they are legit sisters, I can't see it being the fairytale porno ending, unless you split them up. I hope it's not the same chick I pulled in March. She earned points for her power and curves, but she broke-even with her lack of hygiene.

I'm just hoping I feel 100%, tomorrow, so I can go crush some turkey on Thursday. Pinky's mom asked if we would be Godparents for her 8-month old, and go to the baptism on Dec 6. This is in Cordoba. I said no. I think that's just a ploy to reel me in. I'll use those couple days to see a few favorites one last time, prior to having to do the whole packing, planning, quality time week. Pinky's cell phone went for a swim in the jacuzzi, Monday night, and her laptop died, as well. That would be the day after IVA-free. I'll check prices on Friday. I'd prefer to get a recent model iPhone. I dropped mine in the jacuzzi about 4 times this Summer, and it's still chugging along. If anyone has an extra on-hand, PM me.

JJBee, the lower-end investor visa, is it easily renewed after year?

Shagmeister7777
11-24-20, 23:26
Thanks for all the great information. Can someone here provide some hints on how I can build up Facebook connections for Medellin paisas?

Blakman
11-25-20, 00:20
You know slapshot. If it wasnt for a pic you showed of yourself. I would think your more of blakman LOL. These girls look special and very dolled up and hygenic. They certain look like new stars on the block. Gabrielle union. I would not entertain a 3 some I can't see it. Just solo. 800 k at gusto so if I manage a 250 deal I done well. I might of messed up by asking for 2 hours, taxi included, oral without condom. No feedback in a minute. After this trip is Jamaica, return then Kenya. After Kenya I actually think I am going to retire. But my next option would be to buddy up with balbomyman and have him show me around Brazil. Slapshot your relationship with pinky is really admirable and interesting. You have manage yo stay half in and half out.

Yes colombia is ideal for a long stay. The transition from us to colombia is so simple. But i am all about trying new countries


Blabacusman, I won't go too deep in to the numbers, but I will just say 1. 000.000 to 500.000 is better negotiating than 450.000 to 250.000 - also, 800.000 for a La Isla girl is about the same chicas are asking at your new favorite spot, Gusto. So, add a bar fine, and that's that. I didn't meet her in Centro and get quoted 1 MM. Also, I don't think I ever pay 250-300 for an hour. During quarantine, maybe once or twice, when I was using an "agency" and thus, paid that type of pricing. Many of my repeats have been around 150-200 k and never with a set time constraint. Where are you off to, after Kenya? Colombia seems like it's a good fit, for you. Pricing, GFE, Cost of Living, maybe travel plays into it, etc. I'd guess Brasil or Thailand, but don't be afraid to send GPS coordinates if you find a untouched diamond mine. Also, are these chicks really sisters, or are they sistuhs? If they are legit sisters, I can't see it being the fairytale porno ending, unless you split them up. I hope it's not the same chick I pulled in March. She earned points for her power and curves, but she broke-even with her lack of hygiene.

I'm just hoping I feel 100%, tomorrow, so I can go crush some turkey on Thursday. Pinky's mom asked if we would be Godparents for her 8-month old, and go to the baptism on Dec 6. This is in Cordoba. I said no. I think that's just a ploy to reel me in. I'll use those couple days to see a few favorites one last time, prior to having to do the whole packing, planning, quality time week. Pinky's cell phone went for a swim in the jacuzzi, Monday night, and her laptop died, as well. That would be the day after IVA-free. I'll check prices on Friday. I'd prefer to get a recent model iPhone. I dropped mine in the jacuzzi about 4 times this Summer, and it's still chugging along. If anyone has an extra on-hand, PM me.

JJBee, the lower-end investor visa, is it easily renewed after year?.

Bmore07
11-25-20, 01:12
Thanks for all the great information. Can someone here provide some hints on how I can build up Facebook connections for Medellin paisas?I'd like to know as well! I usually hit the pages but want to experience the FB girls as well on my third trip.

Bmore07
11-25-20, 01:18
You know slapshot. If it wasnt for a pic you showed of yourself. I would think your more of blakman LOL. These girls look special and very dolled up and hygenic. They certain look like new stars on the block. Gabrielle union. I would not entertain a 3 some I can't see
It. Just solo. 800 k at gusto so if I manage a 250 deal I done well. I might of messed up by asking for 2 hours, taxi included, oral without condom. No feedback in a minute. After this trip is Jamaica, return then Kenya. After Kenya I actually think I am going to retire. But my next option would be to buddy up with balbomyman and have him show me around Brazil. Slapshot your relationship with pinky is really admirable and interesting. You have manage yo stay half in and half out.

Yes colombia is ideal for a long stay. The transition from us to colombia is so simple. But i am all about trying new countries.When are you leaving Colombia? Was hoping to take you up on hour wing man offer.

IamLookin
11-25-20, 02:29
No fantasy. If you are fluent with the language and have a decent personality it goes a long way.

Anyone that says that knowing the language is not an advantage is full of it. I only had one girl use her cell phone and what I did was I started to use mine in front of her. Which actually annoyed her because she knew I had a long list of contacts. Perhaps your experience with girls on their cell phones is because they are bored with you?


No matter how fluent you are the puta is going to be on her cell phone texting with next or potential clients, or with online entertainment. Whenever theres a break lol. Sometimes it happens while you fucking. You guys are in fantasy land. Wanting to believe speaking spanish impact a puta decision for a sexual encounter. Best you say if she wants extended visits or relationship. Whenever you believe $ is not the most important. You are disillusion.

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Blakman
11-25-20, 03:03
This is what kids do, what someone who is businessminded does. Seek out potential clients. All these girls come back to me even though I require so much for so little. So you might want to rethink your statement and ease on down someone else path.


No fantasy. If you are fluent with the language and have a decent personality it goes a long way.

Anyone that says that knowing the language is not an advantage is full of it. I only had one girl use her cell phone and what I did was I started to use mine in front of her. Which actually annoyed her because she knew I had a long list of contacts. Perhaps your experience with girls on their cell phones is because they are bored with you?.

MarquisdeSade1
11-25-20, 03:33
All these girls come back to me even though I require so much for so little. .There is a store in USA called TJMAXX that is my nickname LOL.

Their mantra is, get the max for the minimum at TJMAXX.

I want to pay what locals pay or even less, tell them eat my ass, swallow my juice, anal and todo sin condones.

Mongers like you work to make the game better for everyone, as opposed to those that damage it for everyone else!

Larga viva Nlakman.

Chicafan
11-25-20, 03:36
Thanks for all the great information. Can someone here provide some hints on how I can build up Facebook connections for Medellin paisas?Listen to what others advise and contribute but since MDE has so many options spend some time getting out- strip clubs, a few MPs, etc. You really only need a handful of good facebook girls your first visit if they have friends- good, quality friends- and are willing to share. Some of them love to turn you on to their friends because it enhances their prestige in their peer group. Point being, you don't need 30 facebook dates to build your funnel.

IamLookin
11-25-20, 03:52
Sounds like your the idiot here writing as if you are the expert on Medellin. Keep writing if that makes you feel that you are a great conqueror.


This is what kids do, what someone who is businessminded does. Seek out potential clients. All these girls come back to me even though I require so much for so little. So you might want to rethink your statement and ease on down someone else path.

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Sangnyc21
11-25-20, 06:04
Blakman and Iamlookin both are correct.

Money is most important thing to these girls.

And knowing basic Spanish does make a difference even if they are just putas.

But for the sole purpose of banging putas it doesn't make a BIG difference but it will make a difference.

But if you're trying to get non pros it will make a much bigger difference.

I use primarily FB girls now and when they come over they are never on the phone during our time together.

What I've learned is most fb girls don't go doing multiple clients per day since they’re coming from so far or right after school. I'm sure some do but they're not looking for it nor are they desperate for it as opposed to casa or Centro girls.

Obviously this has to do with pricing and how much a girl makes.

I pay 200+ taxi or 250 and they pay for taxi. I get 2-3 hours if I want but usually kick them out after 1 nut.

They usually leave their phone on the kitchen counter or ask me to put it on the charger then we have a drink by the sofa a little chit chat some jokes and off comes the clothes.

Rinse wash and repeat.

Njoean197
11-25-20, 07:45
Can anyone confirm the 12:00 am Curfew will be in effect this weekend? Does that mean bars must close at 12:00 am And people can still be on the streets, or is this a strict "you must be indoors and off the street" at 12:00 am Curfew? Can anyone recommend some after hours spots which might be open, I know of Club Faison and I saw in an earlier post its open until 2 am Hope this is true. If bars are closing at 12:00 am, are Clubs like Gusto opening earlier? They used to open at 10:00 pm I think. I am only here one weekend and I want to make it count.

Instead of arguing over who has the bigger Spanish speaking dick, why don't we pool our knowledge for the greater good of the mongering world and list some filthy back alley strip clubs while were at it haha. I remember back last spring, or maybe winter, some 70 year old dude wrote a glorious report about some hooker bar in Centro where he was having the time of his life. I am going to try and check out some of these places if I can find them and I ll report how they were. If some members have any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.

JjBee62
11-25-20, 13:00
Can anyone confirm the 12:00 am Curfew will be in effect this weekend? Does that mean bars must close at 12:00 am And people can still be on the streets, or is this a strict "you must be indoors and off the street" at 12:00 am Curfew? Can anyone recommend some after hours spots which might be open, I know of Club Faison and I saw in an earlier post its open until 2 am Hope this is true. If bars are closing at 12:00 am, are Clubs like Gusto opening earlier? They used to open at 10:00 pm I think. I am only here one weekend and I want to make it count.

Instead of arguing over who has the bigger Spanish speaking dick, why don't we pool our knowledge for the greater good of the mongering world and list some filthy back alley strip clubs while were at it haha. I remember back last spring, or maybe winter, some 70 year old dude wrote a glorious report about some hooker bar in Centro where he was having the time of his life. I am going to try and check out some of these places if I can find them and I ll report how they were. If some members have any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.Most of the bars will be closing at midnight. I believe Gusto will be open until 2 am. La Isla should be open until 4, Same with Club Fahrenheit. They weren't chasing everyone off the streets at midnight last weekend.

The Tall Man
11-25-20, 13:49
Blakman and Iamlookin both are correct.

Money is most important thing to these girls.

And knowing basic Spanish does make a difference even if they are just putas.

But for the sole purpose of banging putas it doesn't make a BIG difference but it will make a difference.

But if you're trying to get non pros it will make a much bigger difference.

I use primarily FB girls now and when they come over they are never on the phone during our time together.

What I've learned is most fb girls don't go doing multiple clients per day since theyre coming from so far or right after school. I'm sure some do but they're not looking for it nor are they desperate for it as opposed to casa or Centro girls..Almost every Colombian chica between the age of 18 to 40 is a complete attention working girl and will spend hours, in fact all day, taking selfies and posting on Instagram or FB or TicToc and everywhere else, then the non-stop messaging with their friends and ex-boyfriends and current novios and on and on.

The difference is if they do this in front of me and if I am paying them for their time as a puta, if I am paying for their time and they are on the cell I give one notice, of course every puta needs to take some selfies like when they see a mirror and I am usually even ok for a quick message or two for a few moments, after all these are putas.

Now if they are friends with benefits, like in this past week for example I have had 3 different FWB chicas come over, should they get on their cell phones and start a back and forth on-going communication with their friends and ex's and current guys that hound them for pussy, after about 10 minutes and one or two warnings (smirks) I pull out my cell and start chatting with a few of about 200 connections that I have on my whatsapp.

Even start up some video chats with some cuties and I organize a future visit and / or plan a get away with these, well only then will they get it. If I am in a bad mood I will play some sex videos that I have received from some of the chicas stored in my cell.

I am a nice guy, friendly, polite, respectful and probably my only fault is that I am too patient but should any chica start off with excessive chatting I let them know that this is not cool and I have a hundred other chicas that can take their place at any moment.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

Knowledge
11-25-20, 17:17
This is a frequent subject here. If you search the forum you will find a pile of details, most of it repetitive. For those who like to source across a keyboard, I propose a Facebook alternative some may find more efficient. Skokka is a website along the lines of mileroticos with a couple of important differences. You don't need a user account (fake or real) to use skokka. Unlike facebook, you don't have to dance around the reason you are there and you don't have to ask to deal with friend requests or facebooks relentless and insidious personal data mining. About which mofe later. Another key difference that I see as an advantage is every listing is required to include a working whatsapp contact number. This is a big advantage because you can have a video call and exchange photos within moments of seeing the listing. Back to personal data protection. You can create fake facebook profiles but they don't prevent facebook tracking your internet and physical movements and those of any contacts stored on devices you use to access facebook. This includes contacts who have never joined or accessed facebook.


I'd like to know as well! I usually hit the pages but want to experience the FB girls as well on my third trip.

Blakman
11-25-20, 18:31
It is what they do. And as a mature mongerer who don't take shit personal. As long as it doesn't affect a good or great time you flow with it. After my first round. Entertain yourself. But when I am ready to go then its showtime. Some guys text on her to sound like superstars and omit reality. I keep it real. Thanks tall man for a dose of reality.


Almost every Colombian chica between the age of 18 to 40 is a complete attention working girl and will spend hours, in fact all day, taking selfies and posting on Instagram or FB or TicToc and everywhere else, then the non-stop messaging with their friends and ex-boyfriends and current novios and on and on.

The difference is if they do this in front of me and if I am paying them for their time as a puta, if I am paying for their time and they are on the cell I give one notice, of course every puta needs to take some selfies like when they see a mirror and I am usually even ok for a quick message or two for a few moments, after all these are putas.

Now if they are friends with benefits, like in this past week for example I have had 3 different FWB chicas come over, should they get on their cell phones and start a back and forth on-going communication with their friends and ex's and current guys that hound them for pussy, after about 10 minutes and one or two warnings (smirks) I pull out my cell and start chatting with a few of about 200 connections that I have on my whatsapp.

Even start up some video chats with some cuties and I organize a future visit and / or plan a get away with these, well only then will they get it. If I am in a bad mood I will play some sex videos that I have received from some of the chicas stored in my cell.

I am a nice guy, friendly, polite, respectful and probably my only fault is that I am too patient but should any chica start off with excessive chatting I let them know that this is not cool and I have a hundred other chicas that can take their place at any moment.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man..

JjBee62
11-25-20, 19:35
Thanks for all the great information. Can someone here provide some hints on how I can build up Facebook connections for Medellin paisas?Go to the General Topics thread. Search for Facebook. Look for my post on the subject. I gave step by step instructions.

Surfer500
11-25-20, 19:53
This is a frequent subject here. If you search the forum you will find a pile of details, most of it repetitive. For those who like to source across a keyboard, I propose a Facebook alternative some may find more efficient. Skokka is a website along the lines of mileroticos with a couple of important differences. You don't need a user account (fake or real) to use skokka. Unlike facebook, you don't have to dance around the reason you are there and you don't have to ask to deal with friend requests or facebooks relentless and insidious personal data mining. About which mofe later. Another key difference that I see as an advantage is every listing is required to include a working whatsapp contact number. This is a big advantage because you can have a video call and exchange photos within moments of seeing the listing. Back to personal data protection. You can create fake facebook profiles but they don't prevent facebook tracking your internet and physical movements and those of any contacts stored on devices you use to access facebook. This includes contacts who have never joined or accessed facebook.Out of curiosity based on the ease of use you described for Skokka, which I hard time believing upon reading, I decided to check it out.

Wow it's just as you described, no Fayboo bullshit, and instant access. I went thru some of the candidates available in Medellin, and Blakman pay attention here, I saw a chocolate you would probably love to bang. Also, everything was automatically translated into English at least on my computer, so that's another plus. And also some of the girls provided pricing, I think one girl was like 75 K and hour.

Although I would never use Skokka as I don't roll that way, Knowledge what you have identified for others I think will be greatly appreciated, and Blakman, I think will work for you.

Blakman
11-25-20, 20:33
But it might be one of thos to good to be true sites that you have to pay a monthly few to contact the chicas. I have just recovered from my about with dehydration and moving into laureles tomorrow. Going to miss my spot.


Out of curiosity based on the ease of use you described for Skokka, which I hard time believing upon reading, I decided to check it out.

Wow it's just as you described, no Fayboo bullshit, and instant access. I went thru some of the candidates available in Medellin, and Blakman pay attention here, I saw a chocolate you would probably love to bang. Also, everything was automatically translated into English at least on my computer, so that's another plus. And also some of the girls provided pricing, I think one girl was like 75 K and hour.

Although I would never use Skokka as I don't roll that way, Knowledge what you have identified for others I think will be greatly appreciated, and Blakman, I think will work for you..

Knowledge
11-25-20, 21:15
I have no reason to mislead. There are yet more resources. You probably know this Surfer, if you add "Pamela" to your search terms you will find the results chocolate intensive. Blakman, get at them.


Out of curiosity based on the ease of use you described for Skokka, which I hard time believing upon reading, I decided to check it out.

Wow it's just as you described, no Fayboo bullshit, and instant access. I went thru some of the candidates available in Medellin, and Blakman pay attention here, I saw a chocolate you would probably love to bang. Also, everything was automatically translated into English at least on my computer, so that's another plus. And also some of the girls provided pricing, I think one girl was like 75 K and hour.

Although I would never use Skokka as I don't roll that way, Knowledge what you have identified for others I think will be greatly appreciated, and Blakman, I think will work for you.

Surfer500
11-25-20, 21:45
But it might be one of thos to good to be true sites that you have to pay a monthly few to contact the chicas. I have just recovered from my about with dehydration and moving into laureles tomorrow. Going to miss my spot..Nope, not the case, Whatsapp numbers available with no membership required for immediate contact, just as Knowledge spelled out in his post. It's the Puta's who pay for use of the Site.

There's a big chocolate one there waiting for you to Whatsapp her, maybe hit her up for shit and giggles, lay some of the Blakman charm on her.

Knowledge
11-26-20, 00:08
Something that again and again on sites like ISG is specific and unambiguous information becomes a focus of confusion and speculation. That doesn't bother me. When it devolves into bickering is when I get disappointed. I appreciate that neither you nor Blakman typically engage in that kind of messiness. Facebook as a source for girls is like the Charles Scwab debit card as a way to avoid ATM fees on gringo sites. In the minds of some there are no alternatives or equivalent resources for either.


Nope, not the case, Whatsapp numbers available with no membership required for immediate contact, just as Knowledge spelled out in his post. It's the Puta's who pay for use of the Site.

There's a big chocolate one there waiting for you to Whatsapp her, maybe hit her up for shit and giggles, lay some of the Blakman charm on her.

Blakman
11-26-20, 00:17
I was going to check out my new apartment to see if it was acceptable. This is in Laureles. As yall know I been under the weather and been unsure if I could perform. I decide to kill 2 birds well 3 birds one shot. A member ask if we could meet. Said he could help close the deal with the cartegena sisters. The way you guys toss around money, I though he was going to give me 100 mil which is difference between me and her. Anyways my apartment has hot water and the tv I can utilize my firestick. Its high up with a view. Good to go. Text him hes on is way from centro offers lunch. My stomach can only handle soup. I can pay for that myself. He shows up and clarify the cartegena deal. I can let him have the sister that way the two girls can get in at once. I thought that was hilarious but a clever move. Blakman is a scorpio sees through a lot. So I guess the 100 mil is no go. I would never have sex with two sister at the same time. Not one of my fantasy. Anyways he shows me his apartment and rooftop access. It was a beautiful view. He surprises me and mention the 8th. Apparently he has interest there. I shrug of the questions and he tells me he has girls he can offer to me. Theres something about me I like to hunt my own chicks. I don't like to know someone who fucked her. I walk him to las castellana. I wanted to test the condition of my dick. The chica walked us up to view. Wasnt much choices. He decline due to he just finish from centro. I chose an average girl but friendly personality. You know the routine everybody. Hey play my playlist. The first song she said crank it up. And we were like in the club. Definitely kicked her in the mood. She warn me suave suave, did the blakman got a big dick story so you don't smash her pussy. She began sucking my dick and seem into it and concern if I enjoying it. My dick is work at 60%. She's loving the music, sucking, singing, sucking. Then we go missionary. The whole time I have my mask on. I am not fucking around. She lets me go suave and inch by inch more. You makes lots of noise for me to ease up. Fucking her to the rhythm of the song. I am feeling my selections and I am into a good vibe. We go doggy. Thats when the fun starts. She dances to the songs while my dick is inside. Spanking her ass. I am in control and she getting more comfortable with the depth. She's smiling and I smiling. Interesting cause no weed or liquor induced. We shift to her riding me and she really shows her dancing skill. She's riding me to the music, I am upstroking to the music as well. Finally I ask her to stroke me off. She couldn't, and I couldn't. Water in my system. Go to bathroom and pepee. Come back out ready to leche. Let out a big roar. She's laughing. I am really loud yall. Like the entire building can hear me. She cleans me. I swear I think we went over time limit. Anyways she's dancing to the music still and pushing that ass on me. I guess she enjoyed herself. I did too. Time to go home and refuel so I don't dehydrate again. The member I met was cool. I am kinda a solo guy though.

Surfer500
11-26-20, 00:50
I have no reason to mislead Your posts as far as I am concerned have always been straight up and not misleading ever, I just couldn't believe that what you described as being true, not meaning that you were being mis-leading or anything like that all.

So I apologize if I may have inferred that your post was misleading, or that you have a propensity to post mis-leading posts.

Rextor
11-26-20, 01:43
Inspires by blakman and others today afternoon I went for a stroll around Centro. Didn't really feel super dangerous, although there was clear signs of poverty and desperation around. I was of course there to check out the local talent, and more than anything I was struck by how there really weren't that many. Of the ones that I saw, virtually nothing to write home about, but that wasn't surprising.

I want to know if I was looking in the right places. I started at the Hotel Nutibara and headed west on Degrieff. Saw a chick pissing on the street next to a passed out dude. Cut south for a block on Carrera 55 and then east to the museum. At some point passed the church, where there seemed to be a higher concentration of girls. And in general wandered around the few blocks south of Nutibara before ending up in parque berrio. Is this the hotspot, or did I just miss it? I was there around 3 pm, which I assume is near peak time.

Can anyone point me to a centro map or guide?

Surfer500
11-26-20, 02:39
Inspires by blakman and others today afternoon I went for a stroll around Centro. Didn't really feel super dangerous, although there was clear signs of poverty and desperation around. I was of course there to check out the local talent, and more than anything I was struck by how there really weren't that many. Of the ones that I saw, virtually nothing to write home about, but that wasn't surprising.

I want to know if I was looking in the right places. I started at the Hotel Nutibara and headed west on Degrieff. Saw a chick pissing on the street next to a passed out dude. Cut south for a block on Carrera 55 and then east to the museum. At some point passed the church, where there seemed to be a higher concentration of girls. And in general wandered around the few blocks south of Nutibara before ending up in parque berrio. Is this the hotspot, or did I just miss it? I was there around 3 pm, which I assume is near peak time.

Can anyone point me to a centro map or guide?It's a little confusing where you walked, but if you go to the intersection of Carrea 52/ Calle 52 this will basically be right in the middle of things with Parque Botero, the Museum, the Veracurz Church, and behind the Church a whole row of bars. If you were at the Veracruz Church you would of noticed the glass covered passageway which basically is the main artery of which girls walk thru. The Avenida de La Grief area is seperate from this area with it's own sub-set of bars / clubs and less girls standing around. If you don't recall being at Parque Botero with all of the sculptures or walking along the passageway as mentioned then you missed the areas where a lot of the girls congregate.

Perhaps you were at the area's I described, if not, go back again to the intersection of Calle52/ Carrea 52 and stand at that location or nearby, even in front of Hotel Premier Plaza and hang for an hour in the late afternoon. If you don't see something to your liking, or where already there, than in my opinion Centro is not for you, and there's nothing wrong with that.

The only thing that puzzles me is how Blakman could of inspired you about El Centro.

Knowledge
11-26-20, 02:43
I didn't think you meant that for a moment. I was directing my comment to the membership at large. I expected more across the board push back than there was. Only Blakman poo pooed it. So I am the one who should apologize for over reacting.


Your posts as far as I am concerned have always been straight up and not misleading ever, I just couldn't believe that what you described as being true, not meaning that you were being mis-leading or anything like that all.

So I apologize if I may have inferred that your post was misleading, or that you have a propensity to post mis-leading posts.

Knowledge
11-26-20, 02:51
Check the block behind the church but stay woke and protect your neck while you are back there.


Inspires by blakman and others today afternoon I went for a stroll around Centro. Didn't really feel super dangerous, although there was clear signs of poverty and desperation around. I was of course there to check out the local talent, and more than anything I was struck by how there really weren't that many. Of the ones that I saw, virtually nothing to write home about, but that wasn't surprising.

I want to know if I was looking in the right places. I started at the Hotel Nutibara and headed west on Degrieff. Saw a chick pissing on the street next to a passed out dude. Cut south for a block on Carrera 55 and then east to the museum. At some point passed the church, where there seemed to be a higher concentration of girls. And in general wandered around the few blocks south of Nutibara before ending up in parque berrio. Is this the hotspot, or did I just miss it? I was there around 3 pm, which I assume is near peak time.

Can anyone point me to a centro map or guide?

Mr Enternational
11-26-20, 04:10
I want to know if I was looking in the right places. Saw a chick pissing on the street next to a passed out dude.You found it!

Wolf662
11-26-20, 05:17
Can anyone point me to a centro map or guide?I made this one for my 1st visit:

Rextor
11-26-20, 13:42
Awesome, thank you gentlemen. Imagine if the structure of this forum wasn't complete dogshit? Then we could sticky these posts. But alas, looks like we haven't unlocked that type of technology yet.

And hey, blakman said a couple nice things about the place. It's definitely very gritty, but with a mask on I generally pass as Colombian so I feel a bit camouflaged.

Knowledge
11-26-20, 16:28
The keyword search function works well enough.


Awesome, thank you gentlemen. Imagine if the structure of this forum wasn't complete dogshit? Then we could sticky these posts. But alas, looks like we haven't unlocked that type of technology yet.

And hey, blakman said a couple nice things about the place. It's definitely very gritty, but with a mask on I generally pass as Colombian so I feel a bit camouflaged.

Knowledge
11-26-20, 16:45
I was headed out of Plaza Botero to meet a friend at the San Jose church yesterday just before 5 PM. As I walked past the cafe across from Veracruz church something caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. It was a huge rat of the 4 legged variety galloping from the area of the Zona Rosa short time hotel a couple of doors behind me. Remember, this was just before 5 PM so the area was packed. There was barely an empty seat in the cafe. The rat ran into the cafe, under the tables and behind the counter. No one noticed it at first be cause the thing was running so fast. After maybe 30 seconds it ran out from under the counter toward the street and I pointed and shouted "look at the big rat", more out of shock than anything else. A pair of women with a young boy jumped up from their table and ran out of the cafe. Then the rat ran through the crowd and back into the cafe. This is when it got weird and absurd. One of the counter girls called the security guard. He went behind the counter looking for the rat. I showed him the direction it ran. When he started stomping around behind the counter it flushed the rat out and it ran back out into the crowded plaza. That is very unusual behavior for a rat. That's why I got the hell out of there. I wasn't trying to get bitten by a rat with rabies or God knows what else. The last time I had an encounter with a squirrel sized Centro rat was during the quarantine. It was so quiet in Parque Berrio a big fat rat was sunning itself out on the sidewalk where there is a taxi stand. There were no taxis and very few people at the time.

Thinking about it this morning, I am reassured I was attentive enough to notice the rat and its odd behavior before anyone else did. That is the way to be in Centro.

Surfer500
11-26-20, 19:52
I was headed out of Plaza Botero to meet a friend at the San Jose church yesterday just before 5 PM. As I walked past the cafe across from Veracruz church something caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. It was a huge rat of the 4 legged variety galloping from the area of the Zona Rosa short time hotel a couple of doors behind me. Remember, this was just before 5 PM so the area was packed. There was barely an empty seat in the cafe. The rat ran into the cafe, under the tables and behind the counter. No one noticed it at first be cause the thing was running so fast. After maybe 30 seconds it ran out from under the counter toward the street and I pointed and shouted "look at the big rat", more out of shock than anything else. A pair of women with a young boy jumped up from their table and ran out of the cafe. Then the rat ran through the crowd and back into the cafe. This is when it got weird and absurd. One of the counter girls called the security guard. He went behind the counter looking for the rat. I showed him the direction it ran. When he started stomping around behind the counter it flushed the rat out and it ran back out into the crowded plaza. That is very unusual behavior for a rat. That's why I got the hell out of there. I wasn't trying to get bitten by a rat with rabies or God knows what else. The last time I had an encounter with a squirrel sized Centro rat was during the quarantine. It was so quiet in Parque Berrio a big fat rat was sunning itself out on the sidewalk where there is a taxi stand. There were no taxis and very few people at the time.

Thinking about it this morning, I am reassured I was attentive enough to notice the rat and its odd behavior before anyone else did. That is the way to be in Centro.Upon reading the first sentence of your report I thought is was going to be a story about Blakman in El Centro still working on earning a whisker!

Tomcat 88
11-26-20, 21:12
Suggested discussion topic: From all the available women here, how do you choose?

Possible answers: Proximity, ease, age, physique, face, tits, ass, price, attitude, costume, skills, chemistry, impulse.

Personally, I choose by combo of looks and attitude, keep for chemistry and love of tongue.

BTW, regular who also works at Aiffe told me she earns 28 for half hour and 50 for hour. Last I looked, customers pay 50 and 80 there.

Knowledge
11-26-20, 21:15
That would have been so much better.


Upon reading the first sentence of your report I thought is was going to be a story about Blakman in El Centro still working on earning a whisker!

Blakman
11-27-20, 02:32
No Centro for me, no nada. Hopefully tomorrow fase dos, a prepago. Apartment has a blazing view though.


Upon reading the first sentence of your report I thought is was going to be a story about Blakman in El Centro still working on earning a whisker!.

Blakman
11-27-20, 02:41
They have a few days left before you can prepare its funeral LOL


I was headed out of Plaza Botero to meet a friend at the San Jose church yesterday just before 5 PM. As I walked past the cafe across from Veracruz church something caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. It was a huge rat of the 4 legged variety galloping from the area of the Zona Rosa short time hotel a couple of doors behind me. Remember, this was just before 5 PM so the area was packed. There was barely an empty seat in the cafe. The rat ran into the cafe, under the tables and behind the counter. No one noticed it at first be cause the thing was running so fast. After maybe 30 seconds it ran out from under the counter toward the street and I pointed and shouted "look at the big rat", more out of shock than anything else. A pair of women with a young boy jumped up from their table and ran out of the cafe. Then the rat ran through the crowd and back into the cafe. This is when it got weird and absurd. One of the counter girls called the security guard. He went behind the counter looking for the rat. I showed him the direction it ran. When he started stomping around behind the counter it flushed the rat out and it ran back out into the crowded plaza. That is very unusual behavior for a rat. That's why I got the hell out of there. I wasn't trying to get bitten by a rat with rabies or God knows what else. The last time I had an encounter with a squirrel sized Centro rat was during the quarantine. It was so quiet in Parque Berrio a big fat rat was sunning itself out on the sidewalk where there is a taxi stand. There were no taxis and very few people at the time.

Thinking about it this morning, I am reassured I was attentive enough to notice the rat and its odd behavior before anyone else did. That is the way to be in Centro..

ColombiaLover
11-27-20, 02:47
Arrived on Tuesday. Enjoy my usual afternoon non-pro snack. She's is finishing her HS classes, so she needed to release some stress.

Went out on Tuesday night with two chicas, probably both well-known the guys on the board who use FB. Went to Gatos to eat (it's on a street just beyond Lleras). They have some interesting drinks and the food is decent. It was 11 by the time we finished and we knew that things would close officially at 12. Tried to go to one club down near Ibiza, but it was closed. Ended up going to a club I've been to a few times on La 33. The current name seems to be Club Exclusivo, but no sign out front. In fact, if you did not know it was there, you would never find it. Given COVID and their desire to stay out late, they have one guy (the "look out" as I call him) sitting near the street telling those who arrive that they are open. The two doors are sound-proof. You hear nothing. You see nothing. 10 mil for chicas, 20 mil for chicos. They play decent music (DJ). Bottle of rum was 160 mil. Not a huge crowd, since it was Tuesday. I think they stay open until 2. Just an option should you want to continue your party. Bring your own chica.

I passed on the 80 mil Thanksgiving dinner at Patrick's. Will probably stop by Lleras tomorrow and give a report. It will NOT be in Gusto's! Jejejej.

Blakman
11-27-20, 02:53
So becareful out there. Wear your mask. Surfur and knowledge are the guys with inspiring details of centro.


Awesome, thank you gentlemen. Imagine if the structure of this forum wasn't complete dogshit? Then we could sticky these posts. But alas, looks like we haven't unlocked that type of technology yet.

And hey, blakman said a couple nice things about the place. It's definitely very gritty, but with a mask on I generally pass as Colombian so I feel a bit camouflaged..

Combo
11-27-20, 02:54
Suggested discussion topic: From all the available women here, how do you choose?

Possible answers: Proximity, ease, age, physique, face, tits, ass, price, attitude, costume, skills, chemistry, impulse.

Personally, I choose by combo of looks and attitude, keep for chemistry and love of tongue.

BTW, regular who also works at Aiffe told me she earns 28 for half hour and 50 for hour. Last I looked, customers pay 50 and 80 there.Well the house usually does take some of what you pay. I've heard it's typically around half, so what she told you makes sense.

SlapShot10
11-27-20, 21:49
10 k entry (cash only).

770 k VIP area + bottle of your choice (270 k Absolut looked on the lower end, and I went with 440 k 23 yr Zacapa).

Mixers included.

The space is big, and we had a group of 6 that turned into 8 before closing time. The Zacapa was bullshit, and I had the manager come discuss it. It was like rum water. The smell and taste was weak compared to every other bottle of Zacapa I have ever had. The pitcher of cola was disgustingly flat. However, the sparklers were really cool and the ice was cold! I finally gave up complaining about the rum, because nothing was going to be done. We got free bottles of Coca Cola for our trouble.

I saw a familiar face in the crowd, whom I didn't know to be a Gusto girl, but it makes perfect sense. She is one that really hit it off with Pinky, but I phased-out because she always wants 250 k and wasn't really making my head spin. She's a cool chick though. She gave me shit for never inviting her over anymore. The crowd wasn't too big, but there were plenty of options available for those looking.

We started the evening with an early Thanksgiving dinner, then popped by Envy Rooftop for a couple drinks. My friend was told 830 p and showed up on the dot. Pinky's friends were told 8 p and showed up at 850 p and 10 p. Eso es Colombia. There seemed to be a good amount of girls walking the park and Calle 10, last night.

Lots of the normal discos around Calle 10 are closed or limited to just the weekends, still. So, we tried Gusto. I wouldn't recommend balling there, at all. That being said, I knew exactly what to expect and wanted a different vibe than Bendito Seas.

Blakman
11-27-20, 23:57
I got to experience balling through you. Thanks man. Tonight I will see if its okay to go out. Fase dos


10 k entry (cash only).

770 k VIP area + bottle of your choice (270 k Absolut looked on the lower end, and I went with 440 k 23 yr Zacapa).

Mixers included.

The space is big, and we had a group of 6 that turned into 8 before closing time. The Zacapa was bullshit, and I had the manager come discuss it. It was like rum water. The smell and taste was weak compared to every other bottle of Zacapa I have ever had. The pitcher of cola was disgustingly flat. However, the sparklers were really cool and the ice was cold! I finally gave up complaining about the rum, because nothing was going to be done. We got free bottles of Coca Cola for our trouble.

I saw a familiar face in the crowd, whom I didn't know to be a Gusto girl, but it makes perfect sense. She is one that really hit it off with Pinky, but I phased-out because she always wants 250 k and wasn't really making my head spin. She's a cool chick though. She gave me shit for never inviting her over anymore. The crowd wasn't too big, but there were plenty of options available for those looking.

We started the evening with an early Thanksgiving dinner, then popped by Envy Rooftop for a couple drinks. My friend was told 830 p and showed up on the dot. Pinky's friends were told 8 p and showed up at 850 p and 10 p. Eso es Colombia. There seemed to be a good amount of girls walking the park and Calle 10, last night.

Lots of the normal discos around Calle 10 are closed or limited to just the weekends, still. So, we tried Gusto. I wouldn't recommend balling there, at all. That being said, I knew exactly what to expect and wanted a different vibe than Bendito Seas..

RiceRocket99
11-28-20, 16:45
Club Exclusivo is on Calle 33 right before Carrera 78. It's right next to Fonda Lupita, it's a non-descript black door, but you can see a camera with red dot outside. I was there last night, def bring your own chica. Luckily I brought 2 haha. Got there around 11:30 pm and left at 2:30 am (still packed). I'll say it stays open as long as people are there. Mostly techno / rave music. It's tussi central, as everyone is doing it and you can buy on spot. We brought our own. I have a connect in Bello that makes it nice and bright pink, not that light pink cut down garbage. You can smoke weed, cigarettes, do lines, do what the fuck you want except fucking. Unfortunately I went on a bad night, too many dudes. It was a sausage fest haha. And make sure to have exact change, the midget waiter took like 15 minutes to get me change. Hate hassling about that. Half bottle of rum was 90 mil and cover is 20 mil for guys and 10 mil for girls.

Man I use to be to able party hard, and I still do, but now that I'm about to be 40 (I know not that old but ain't that young) I can't hang with these 18 yr olds anymore. Well I'm still going to try!


Arrived on Tuesday. Enjoy my usual afternoon non-pro snack. She's is finishing her HS classes, so she needed to release some stress.

Went out on Tuesday night with two chicas, probably both well-known the guys on the board who use FB. Went to Gatos to eat (it's on a street just beyond Lleras). They have some interesting drinks and the food is decent. It was 11 by the time we finished and we knew that things would close officially at 12. Tried to go to one club down near Ibiza, but it was closed. Ended up going to a club I've been to a few times on La 33. The current name seems to be Club Exclusivo, but no sign out front. In fact, if you did not know it was there, you would never find it. Given COVID and their desire to stay out late, they have one guy (the "look out" as I call him) sitting near the street telling those who arrive that they are open. The two doors are sound-proof. You hear nothing. You see nothing. 10 mil for chicas, 20 mil for chicos. They play decent music (DJ). Bottle of rum was 160 mil. Not a huge crowd, since it was Tuesday. I think they stay open until 2. Just an option should you want to continue your party. Bring your own chica.

I passed on the 80 mil Thanksgiving dinner at Patrick's. Will probably stop by Lleras tomorrow and give a report. It will NOT be in Gusto's! Jejejej.

ColombiaLover
11-28-20, 16:52
I am glad to know someone else has been there! I've been there about 5 times and have never once seen a gringo. Yes, definitely have change. They like to consider whatever you give them (if it's too much) as a tip, if you don't demand your change. Even the doorman did not have change last Tuesday. Geez.

And it is true that you can do what you want there. The midget sells tussi for 60 mil for a small bag. I don't touch the shit, but the lesbian who was with us bought some.


Club Exclusivo is on Calle 33 right before Carrera 78. It's right next to Fonda Lupita, it's a non-descript black door, but you can see a camera with red dot outside. I was there last night, def bring your own chica. Luckily I brought 2 haha. Got there around 11:30 pm and left at 2:30 am (still packed). I'll say it stays open as long as people are there. Mostly techno / rave music. It's tussi central, as everyone is doing it and you can buy on spot. We brought our own. I have a connect in Bello that makes it nice and bright pink, not that light pink cut down garbage. You can smoke weed, cigarettes, do lines, do what the fuck you want except fucking. Unfortunately I went on a bad night, too many dudes. It was a sausage fest haha. And make sure to have exact change, the midget waiter took like 15 minutes to get me change. Hate hassling about that. Half bottle of rum was 90 mil and cover is 20 mil for guys and 10 mil for girls.

Man I use to be to able party hard, and I still do, but now that I'm about to be 40 (I know not that old but ain't that young) I can't hang with these 18 yr olds anymore. Well I'm still going to try!

LeyenLouvain
11-28-20, 17:17
If you fancy a virtual trip inside Gustos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zcIkywvx08

(I found this thanks to Mojo Bandit who posted a video from the same youtuber in the Cartagena thread which includes the famous Tony).

RiceRocket99
11-28-20, 19:33
Yeah I remember going there years ago, it definitely changed its decor since then. I'm a Chino so I stand out in non gringo areas, and I like that. I'm staying a couple blocks from San Javier Metro Station, walking distance to communa 13. No gringos at all here except those doing the tour. When I walk out at night, I get looks like wtf this Chino doing here LOL. People are always friendly and interested in how I ended up here. I tell them I love living like a local. Chicas that come here ask the same thing. But my apt has nice view and large balcony. I can play loud music all day and night with no complaints.


I am glad to know someone else has been there! I've been there about 5 times and have never once seen a gringo. Yes, definitely have change. They like to consider whatever you give them (if it's too much) as a tip, if you don't demand your change. Even the doorman did not have change last Tuesday. Geez.

And it is true that you can do what you want there. The midget sells tussi for 60 mil for a small bag. I don't touch the shit, but the lesbian who was with us bought some.

Knowledge
11-28-20, 22:16
I've seen this movie before. I hope for a surprise ending this time.


Yeah I remember going there years ago, it definitely changed its decor since then. I'm a Chino so I stand out in non gringo areas, and I like that. I'm staying a couple blocks from San Javier Metro Station, walking distance to communa 13. No gringos at all here except those doing the tour. When I walk out at night, I get looks like wtf this Chino doing here LOL. People are always friendly and interested in how I ended up here. I tell them I love living like a local. Chicas that come here ask the same thing. But my apt has nice view and large balcony. I can play loud music all day and night with no complaints.

JohnnyO
11-29-20, 14:23
Hey guys,

Tickets are booked for early Jan with KLM from Europe 693 round trip. I've been lurking around this forum for a while now, taking notes and reading as much as possible. Thanks to all so far that have provided on the ground reports.

Since my trip is definitely on, I now have some questions.

I'll be arriving in Medellin around 6 pm. Whats the best option for getting COP at that time, will the cambios still be open or maybe the ATM is better?

Is Uber the best option from the airport? I seem to remember someone saying you need to walk across a carpark or something.

Is it best to wait until the next day to get a sim at the Claro store because almost every country I've been to, they rip you off with tourist sims at the airport which are no better than regular ones downtown?

Can anybody who has stayed at the San Peter apartments in Laureles recommend a contact they have there. They have some on airbnb but the owners are saying no guests / sex tourism etc.

I know there has been a lot of discussion on not going to Botero at night and I get it but what about taking a taxi or Uber straight to a bar or strip club like Barra Ejecutiva and then a taxi back, I presume that's safe enough?

Are most of you guys who are go to Centro asking the girls if they have a Cedula or not and I presume the hotels will ask as well?

When you take a girl from Centro are you letting the girl guide you to a hotel or is better to take her yourself to somewhere like Zona Rosa or Premier Plaza? It seems like a better option to pay a bit more where you know you'll get an hour to a few hours rather than paying cheap and getting a knock after 20 min, that's what I'm gathering from reading the forum?

Thanks again.

JohnnyO
11-29-20, 15:37
I wanted to add to my recent post but I can't due to a time limit. Anyway as I am asking a lot of info and I am unable to give back as I am not on the ground yet I will add my cliff notes here.

Nounce
11-29-20, 15:46
my trip is definitely on, I now have some questions.You can exchange money at the airport using ATM. Regular taxi works better than Uber from airport. It has a standard pricing so you are not likely to be overcharged. You can google Medellin Guru to find a web site and it has detail info.

You can also find San Peter on booking.com. You can get contact info there.

Taxi to El Centro is safe. You can walk around if you know where you are going but avoid dark places with no one around. You can go check it out during daytime to get familiar with the area. Most places are dark in nighttime so that is something to get used to.

I let girl take me because I want to see new places unless it is a place I have visited that I don't like. The knock maybe a Bogota thing. It almost never happens to me in Medellin but maybe I am too quick. I remember a girl yelled out demasado rapido when I finised in Santa Fe, haha.

Pollo Negro taught me the phrase "algo mas".

Do you check out the Medellin List by World Traveler here?

RiceRocket99
11-29-20, 16:02
I'm not sure what you mean. I've partied hard in Manrique, Obrero (Bello), and Aranjuez. Some of the funnest and craziest party experiences ever. Of course, I don't go solo. I always go with groups of 2-3 girls who are from the areas. I would know at least one of the girls very well and they in turn invite their barrio friends for me to sample at the clubs. Almost always, I find someone 'fresh', usually their classmate, or co-woker, or family friend or just a new neighbor that moved into the barrio. You can't beat 50 mil for a full bottle of rum at a club! Medelland has something for everyone. I remember my virgin trip to MDE and I stayed at the Mansion my first couple trips and then would rent an apt in Parque Lleras to party hard for a week straight until my body couldn't take it anymore LOL. I don’t use FB, SA, or Mansion connections anymore. I pretty much build my own chica network through referrals and referrals of referrals, and so on. Anyways, just my 2 cents. Being able to speak fluent Spanish, understand Colombian slang, dress with some style, not looking old, overweight and overly boring goes a long way.


I've seen this movie before. I hope for a surprise ending this time.

Fun Luvr
11-29-20, 16:31
Since my trip is definitely on, I now have some questions.

I'll be arriving in Medellin around 6 pm. Whats the best option for getting COP at that time, will the cambios still be open or maybe the ATM is better?

Is Uber the best option from the airport? I seem to remember someone saying you need to walk across a carpark or something.

Is it best to wait until the next day to get a sim at the Claro store because almost every country I've been to, they rip you off with tourist sims at the airport which are no better than regular ones downtown?
I'll answer your first three questions since I have knowledge of those. I'm not a Centro rat and it's been years since I stayed at San Peter.

1) ATM's are the best option. The cambios will be open when you arrive but their exchange rates are quite a bit lower. After going through the baggage claim area, continue walking down the hallway. Bancolombia and BBVA ATM's are on your right. BBVA is a little further past Bancolombia, but BBVA doesn't have ATM fees.

2) No, Uber is not the best option. They may be a few pesos cheaper than a taxi, but the added trouble to find the Uber is not worth it. The white taxis have a set rate to Medellin - 80,000 COP. That is for anywhere in Medellin, Poblado, and Laureles.

3) It is best to go to one of the carriers stores. Claro and Tigo are probably the most popular. Take your passport with you just in case they need to see it to sell a sim card.

Surfer500
11-29-20, 16:44
Being able to speak fluent Spanish, understand Colombian slang, dress with some style, not looking old, overweight and overly boring goes a long way.You actually left something out here that others may not be aware of in that you said your Asian. I have a friend from South Korea who is in Medellin that I met with a few weeks ago there, and he basically was a "babe magnet" compared to me when we would go places. It's almost like when I went to India a few years back. Your a rarity, and are going to get a lot of attention because most Colombians in the barrios let alone not ever leaving Medellin have never seen an Asian person in the flesh, and being able to speak Spanish has to be blowing them away, especially the Chicas. So your kind of like a movie star and probably have people wanting to have their picture taken with you, at least that's what happened to me in India, but unfortunately it wasn't with a bunch of Chicas!

JjBee62
11-29-20, 17:55
Hey guys,

Tickets are booked for early Jan with KLM from Europe 693 round trip. I've been lurking around this forum for a while now, taking notes and reading as much as possible. Thanks to all so far that have provided on the ground reports.

Since my trip is definitely on, I now have some questions.

I'll be arriving in Medellin around 6 pm. Whats the best option for getting COP at that time, will the cambios still be open or maybe the ATM is better?

Is Uber the best option from the airport? I seem to remember someone saying you need to walk across a carpark or something.

Is it best to wait until the next day to get a sim at the Claro store because almost every country I've been to, they rip you off with tourist sims at the airport which are no better than regular ones downtown?

Can anybody who has stayed at the San Peter apartments in Laureles recommend a contact they have there. They have some on airbnb but the owners are saying no guests / sex tourism etc.

I know there has been a lot of discussion on not going to Botero at night and I get it but what about taking a taxi or Uber straight to a bar or strip club like Barra Ejecutiva and then a taxi back, I presume that's safe enough?.1. ATMs are better, unless you have some overriding reason to bring cash. At least some of them should be open at Oviedo mall until 8 pm. However, the added cost and inconvenience makes using a money exchange upon arrival a bad idea. You can pull out a small amount from an ATM at the airport, then hit another ATM once you are settled in.

The best option from the airport, going to San Peter Apartments is the bus to Nutibara Plaza and then taxi to San Peter, although it's not much different than taking the bus to Santa Fe mall and taking a taxi. However, it will probably be easier and less stressful to take a white taxi from the airport. The rate should be 80 k, but always verify with the driver. If he says more than 85 k, just move on to the next one.

3. I've never seen a listing on Airbnb for San Peter Apartments that doesn't specifically state visitors, over 18 with Identification are allowed. As of 1 week ago, there was no problem at all with visitors. The front desk girls are all cool with it. The owner I rented from is named Kathy.

4. Taking a taxi directly to where you want to go in El Centro is the way to go, especially at night.

5. When in doubt, whip it out. Ask for a cedula. Some hotels in El Centro require the girl to have one. Some don't.

6. I think most of the Centro rats will tell you to use Premier Plaza or another better short time hotel. Cleaner, nicer, no interruptions and hot water is worth it.

Knowledge
11-29-20, 18:04
You don't need cash for Uber. You need cash for taxis. Another cash option is the 12,000 peso bus to Centro or San Diego. If you stay at San Peter get the San Diego bus. You will need a taxi after the bus, or you can do Uber from there.

I am a Centro rat. Yes, you are safe to take taxis to amd from the strip clubs after dark.


I'll answer your first three questions since I have knowledge of those. I'm not a Centro rat and it's been years since I stayed at San Peter.

1) ATM's are the best option. The cambios will be open when you arrive but their exchange rates are quite a bit lower. After going through the baggage claim area, continue walking down the hallway. Bancolombia and BBVA ATM's are on your right. BBVA is a little further past Bancolombia, but BBVA doesn't have ATM fees.

2) No, Uber is not the best option. They may be a few pesos cheaper than a taxi, but the added trouble to find the Uber is not worth it. The white taxis have a set rate to Medellin - 80,000 COP. That is for anywhere in Medellin, Poblado, and Laureles.

3) It is best to go to one of the carriers stores. Claro and Tigo are probably the most popular. Take your passport with you just in case they need to see it to sell a sim card.

Knowledge
11-29-20, 20:20
Like I said, I hope for a surprise happy ending. It's good you roll with people you've met before and use referrals. My 2 cents is to avoid problems keep a clear head about whether you get girls because of what you can pay them vs. Your appearance, fashion sense and knowledge of Spanish. More specifically, to avoid dangerous problems be aware that whether or not you arrive someplace with "2 or 3 girls" from the area you are still alone. Please stay alert and be selective with your trust so I can read about a happy plot twist. I mention a surprise ending because everything else about your evolution from gringo hotel newbie to confident barrio baller is a familiar path toward regretful developments. I hope you are now more sure of what I mean because I hate hearing about guys in problem situations.


I'm not sure what you mean. I've partied hard in Manrique, Obrero (Bello), and Aranjuez. Some of the funnest and craziest party experiences ever. Of course, I don't go solo. I always go with groups of 2-3 girls who are from the areas. I would know at least one of the girls very well and they in turn invite their barrio friends for me to sample at the clubs. Almost always, I find someone 'fresh', usually their classmate, or co-woker, or family friend or just a new neighbor that moved into the barrio. You can't beat 50 mil for a full bottle of rum at a club! Medelland has something for everyone. I remember my virgin trip to MDE and I stayed at the Mansion my first couple trips and then would rent an apt in Parque Lleras to party hard for a week straight until my body couldn't take it anymore LOL. I dont use FB, SA, or Mansion connections anymore. I pretty much build my own chica network through referrals and referrals of referrals, and so on. Anyways, just my 2 cents. Being able to speak fluent Spanish, understand Colombian slang, dress with some style, not looking old, overweight and overly boring goes a long way.