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I agree with you. I think guys who put up with girls showing up 30 minutes or more late are doing a disservice to themselves and to the rest of us. We all have only a limited time in life. It makes no sense to me to spend it with my thumb up my ass wondering when or if a girl is going to show up. The hell with that nonsense.If you are not going to tolerate girls showing up more than 30 minutes late, you are going to dramatically limit the amount of online girls that you can see. This is Colombia where time is not of the essence. The professionals will show up on time generally because that is their business but the semi-pros usually don't show up on time. It is the way they approach social events and they treat appointments with gringos the same way. It also depends on the age and experience of the girl. If you are dealing with girls in their late 20's and up, it is more likely that they will show up close to online. But when you are talking about girls in the 18-22 age range, it is a completely different story. I just schedule the girls an hour early and then they usually show up on time when I really want to see them. But then it is the girls who show up on time that screw me up. Ja ja ja.
DiscoverFL
12-06-23, 22:28
Anyone know how far the Hotel Dix is from the Mansion bar / dance floor where we would be able to meet the girls? Uber cost?
The reason for the question is, I'm trying to make reservation with Mansion for my travel dates but it appears they need a referral for that because when I asked them availability and rates they responded with the question to share the name of the friend that recommended their place. Not sure how to respond to that, obviously I do not want to mention of this forum etc. Didn't realize they need referral but understand why they have that system.
So trying to look to alternative stay arrangements and want to make sure that the place I stay is not too far Mansion bar.
Thanks.15 minute walk, slightly uphill from your hotel, downhill back.
I'll message you privately for a referral if that is what they need.
Anyone with any recent experience at at these options in Laureles? Considering for my next trip. Pros and cons of each?
Feel free to message me, would appreciate it.
Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. Bbl's and fake tits don't do it for me.
LvZooMan211
12-07-23, 04:09
I made my flight arrangements and I have been RTFF and it has been useful to prepare for trip in terms of what to expect, how to be safe etc, learning Spanish (just bought Duolingo). But I have some tactical questions for which I'm unable to pickup the answers from the posts (very likely my comprehension issues).
1. Stay. I'm narrowing down to El Poblado or Laureles based many posts that say safe bet for first timers in terms of safety. But I could not narrow down to specific hotel or airbnb that ids the girls every time and 24 X7 security etc. I don't mind a small fee for each guest if that's what I need to pay for my peace of mind. Any recommendations or keywords I need to search the forum for specific hotel or airbnb recommendation? Laureles. San Peter apartments is a good place. I always stay there when I visit Medellin. They have 24 x7 security and all girls must have a valid Colombian ID. They also have an American bar downstairs where you can hang out with other gringos.
Poblado. I recommend staying at the Mansion, aka Hotel M, if it's your first time in Medellin. They have a bar next door where girls hang out. Most if not all guests who stay there are americans. It's very safe and 24 x7 security also.
http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/
Both places don't charge any guest fee. Hope that helps.
... obviously I do not want to mention of this forum etc. Didn't realize they need referral but understand why they have that system..Mention it, I think that is your referral.
LoveItHere69
12-07-23, 06:51
9:15 at night Thursday last week side of the church at the barricade entrance. Guy I was talking to told me 5 girls (not large) surrounded him and acted flirty but were trying to pick pocket him. He spun around throwing some elbows to get them away and went to his hotel.
2:00 in the afternoon today. Bar street behind the church. Mid-street a delivery truck was parked. Bull dyke lesbian moves quickly from the hotel to the truck facing the truck and sticks their leg out backwards like they are stretching to go jogging. Tranny moved forward from the hotel building towards me thus putting me between them. Tranny moved their hand up and I pushed it away hard and kept going.
End of the month and holiday season. The local guys are spending money. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday I had 5 girls during that time and 4 were snapped up quick. First girl. We finished and I let her out, went back and rinsed the soap off my back quickly dried and out the door. I am on the 3rd floor. When I get to the 2nd floor she is there with another guy paying for a room to do the nasty. Most likely the loving glow on her face that I gave her like a pregnant woman supposedly gets. Second girl left the hotel and I spoke with the staff for 5 minutes. Guess who magically appears 5 minutes later with a new guy? Third girl. We were on the 2nd floor and I stopped to look at my phone as she passed from behind me and started down the steps. She only made it halfway down before some guy called her back up. Fourth girl. Had not seen her in months. Got up from the bench. Made it 10 steps and some guy grabbed her. Half hour later she is done. She passes me on the bench and I get up and 10 steps is too slow again. Some other guy grabs her. I can not find anyone that interests me and I see her 40 minutes later and sprint as fast as I could yelling at her to scare any guys away. I have my fun at my hotel and bring her back around 9:45 at night. There is a guy walking slightly to the side and slightly in front of us. I stopped and let her walk the rest of the way alone. She makes it maybe 20 steps before that guy moves in and starts chatting her up. Who knows what happened. She is a solid 8 and used to be a solid 9 before the baby. Body, face, attitude.
My turn finally. The 3rd girl mentioned above I wanted to take for a 2nd fling. I was watching her across the street but the friend she was standing next to was mad at me for not taking her for a 4th time so I could not approach. Luck has it she moves away. Then I notice she is walking to a hotel and kept looking back for some guy to follow. But I never saw him approach her or walk with her. She is standing at the top of the stairs of the same hotel some guy called her when she was halfway down a few days ago. She starts coming back down the stairs. I do not see any guy so I walk up the stairs and meet her halfway. Grab her waist, turn her around, and we go back up. We do the deed.
I committed a monger sin. Last month I gave away 2 gold bracelets, 1 Black Hills gold ring, and one silver ring. No diamonds. They were left at my work years ago. I could pawn them and get pennies on the dollar, get them stolen, or simply lose them. Do not worry I was no more special the next time they saw me. I am sure they have already either pawned, lost, or had them stolen already so everything is back to normal. I know if I bought any girl a house the very next day they would want to know what I would do for them that day, and the next, and so on. But I had explained they were good girls and never gave me any problems, not because of any feelings. Am I going to get kicked off this site now?
My hotel cleaning lady listens to 1980's USA pop radio music when she cleans. She goes from room to room and tunes in to that station 91.8. She sung several phrases of an Elton John song and some words to a Def Lepard song. She has no idea what she is saying but having fun. I had to smile in shock when I heard the one hit wonder: Eddie Murphy's "Party All The Time". I know this is important to someone and they needed to know this. Welcome!
Actually she scares the hell out me. I have this recurring nightmare. I am walking down my hotel hallway. Guns & Roses "Welcome to the Jungle" starts to play. She corrects the song to make it the Centro Rat Theme Song. She slides out from one of the rooms into the hallway like Tom Cruise does in Risky Business with her broom in her hand. The broom is her microphone and she starts singing "Welcome to the Centro" and moving side to side doing that move that the lead singer Axl Rose does. I completely lose my shiitt and jump off the roof because all reality has ended.
Welcome to the Centro.
We got fun and games.
We got everything you want.
Honey, we know the names.
We are the people that can find.
Whatever you may need.
If you got no money, honey.
We got your disease.
In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.
Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.
Ooh-ah, I want to watch you bleed.
Welcome to the Centro.
We take it day by day.
If you want it, you're going to bleed.
But that's the price you pay.
You're a very sexy girl.
Who's very hard to please.
You can taste the bright lights.
But you won't get them for free.
In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.
Feel my, my, my, my serpentine.
I, I want to hear you scream.
Welcome to the Centro.
It's worse here everyday.
You learn to live like an animal.
In the Centro where we play.
You got a hunger for what you see.
You'll take it eventually.
You can have anything you want.
But you better not take it from me.
In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.
Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.
Ooh-ah, I'm going to watch you bleed.
And when you're high, you never.
Ever want to come down.
So down, so down, so down, yeah.
Aw.
You know where you are?
You're in the Centro, baby.
You're going to die.
In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.
Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.
In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.
Feel my, my, my, my serpentine.
In the Centro, welcome to the Centro.
Watch it bring you to your knees, knees.
It's going to bring you down, huh.
Fyou. You are all thinking it now and just as scared!
You don't need a referral to book at Mansion. Someone is egging you on. Perhaps a referral is needed for some occasional discount offers they may run but anyone can book Mansion unless the rules changed while I was sleeping recently. Jajajaja.Only the most rookie nookie seekers should stay at that place. It sucks.
Nil Admirari
12-07-23, 17:41
This news article (from back in November) may be of interest to those of you who (like me) are over 65 (and who qualify as "gringos" as most narrowly defined**) regardless of your political leanings (or whether you may or may not think this would be a good use of your US tax dollars). Something to keep our eyes on as events unfold--especially if, in addition to being an elder of the community, you find condoms to be the enemy of pleasure.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/hiv-prevention-drugs-older-americans-free-new-biden/story?id=104600444 "HIV prevention drugs for older Americans may be free under new Biden proposal. The drugs, known by the shorthand "PrEP," would be free in pill form and -- for the first time -- as long-acting injectables through the government insurance program designed for those 65 and older. ".
** A footnote on the use of "Gringo", the subject of some back and forth here several weeks ago. As detailed in the following link, the term definitely varies in usage from country to country: sometimes it's an insult; elsewhere it's perfectly friendly. In some places "gringo" narrowly denotes someone from the USA; sometimes it applies to most any foreigner. In Peru it can refer to anyone who's fair skinned, even a fellow Peruvian. (https://www.spanish.academwhy / blog / what-is-the-meaning-of-gringo-the-history-and-origin-of-the-term /.
The Spanish etymological dictionaries concur that the term originated from "Griego", the Spanish word for a Greek. As early as 1787, the "Diccionario Castellano" (1787) reports that "gringo" was used in Malaga for "anyone who spoke Spanish badly," and in Madrid for "the Irish. " Griego evolved into the American Spanish verb engringarse "to act like a foreigner. " The belief (repeated during the ISG discussion) that "Gringo" originated later, during the Mexican-American War (of 1846-'48) from cries of "Green Go Home " (referencing the green uniforms sported by the invading Yankees) is described as "etymological folklore"--i.e. the linguistic equivalent of an urban myth.
Holiday tomorrow so many places will be closed like the casa's including Energy. Don't about clubs like Gustos or Fase 2 though.
ElSexoChino7
12-07-23, 21:02
Laureles. San Peter apartments is a good place. I always stay there when I visit Medellin. They have 24 x7 security and all girls must have a valid Colombian ID. They also have an American bar downstairs where you can hang out with other gringos.Would you mind sharing the link for this apartment so I can book this the next time I visit Medellin. I'm so tired of staying in poblado and needed somewhere new.
DiscoverFL
12-07-23, 22:43
Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. Bbl's and fake tits don't do it for me.Photoshop.
But fake butts do?
Photoshop.
But fake butts do?She's from Argentina but has a million followers, came to the states and people are losing their mind about her because of that booty LOL if most of the girls from south America that are fit cane to the states, the outcome would be the same.
LvZooMan211
12-08-23, 03:07
Would you mind sharing the link for this apartment so I can book this the next time I visit Medellin. I'm so tired of staying in poblado and needed somewhere new.https://www.hotels.com/ho613522080/san-peter-suites-medellin-colombia/
You can google San Peter Apartments Medellin and it will show up on multiple sites like, hotels.com, booking.com, orbitz, expedia, etc. The prices are very similar on all the sites. The apartments are all different so it all depends on what's available.
HumpyDumpty11
12-08-23, 07:06
I went to Medellin once and stayed in Poblado. Me and buddy took an uber to The Mansion. It was a ways away from where we were staying. But the Mansion we went to is not the same as the one I see people mention here as the Hotel M. The Mansion I went to was up a long windy driveway, like your going into the woods. Sat a top a hill. It was huge inside and it had a bar inside where you wait to have the girls showcased to you.
I looked at google maps at the Hotel M and that can't be it.
Mr Enternational
12-08-23, 10:39
Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape.
She's from Argentina but has a million followers, came to the states and people are losing their mind about her because of that booty LOL if most of the girls from south America that are fit cane to the states, the outcome would be the same.Are people losing their minds or are people that have nothing to do except look at pictures on the internet losing their minds?
Funny how some people develop what they like from pictures and how many followers an account has versus what they see outside in real life.
You could surmise that if most of the girls from the States went to South America, then the same thing would happen. It is only a case of people taking an affinity to what is exotic to them. If you had grown up with those same girls then you would care less about their pictures of how many followers they had. They would just be regular ass Betty and Sue to you. Trust me. None of these chicks' former classmates and neighbors have lost their minds over this internet account.
https://www.hotels.com/ho613522080/san-peter-suites-medellin-colombia/
You can google San Peter Apartments Medellin and it will show up on multiple sites like, hotels.com, booking.com, orbitz, expedia, etc. The prices are very similar on all the sites. The apartments are all different so it all depends on what's available.When I stayed there I found it very noisy even during the week from the street noise and ended up moving somewhere else. I think I booked it on expedia with pay at location. They only accepted cash for payment at San Peter. No credit card or debit availble.
JohnnieCash
12-08-23, 14:08
18 year-old girl has been arrested for the murder of 55 year old American in El Poblado (20+ stab wounds).
The victim had contacted the alleged aggressor through a dating platform.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/mujer-de-18-anos-enviada-a-la-carcel-por-asesinato-de-estadounidense-en-el-poblado-PK23299273
HumpyDumpty11
12-08-23, 15:39
I went to Medellin once and stayed in Poblado. Me and buddy took an uber to The Mansion. It was a ways away from where we were staying. But the Mansion we went to is not the same as the one I see people mention here as the Hotel M. The Mansion I went to was up a long windy driveway, like your going into the woods. Sat a top a hill. It was huge inside and it had a bar inside where you wait to have the girls showcased to you.
I looked at google maps at the Hotel M and that can't be it.Nevermind. I found the place. It's called Loutron Massage Parlor. Funny cause my boy told the cab to take us to the mansion.
Nil Admirari
12-08-23, 15:52
When I stayed there I found it very noisy even during the week from the street noise and ended up moving somewhere else. I think I booked it on expedia with pay at location. They only accepted cash for payment at San Peter. No credit card or debit availble.To further clarify the noise issues at San Peter as noted by Giz99, and which do result in many short and aborted stays: Noise levels vary by floor of apartment (2 to 17), orientation (bedroom facing La 70 side of the building with its discos and bars, or the quieter Calle 42 to the rear), and whether the apartment has airport-grade windows insulated for sound. Rental price per unit tends to vary accordingly. All that said, there are a number of long term, happy campers there, myself included (a geezer who can deal with any residual Bad Bunny, Latin Trap decibels from the street below by removing his hearing aids at night).
DiscoverFL
12-08-23, 16:19
I went to Medellin once and stayed in Poblado. Me and buddy took an uber to The Mansion. It was a ways away from where we were staying. But the Mansion we went to is not the same as the one I see people mention here as the Hotel M. The Mansion I went to was up a long windy driveway, like your going into the woods. Sat a top a hill. It was huge inside and it had a bar inside where you wait to have the girls showcased to you.
I looked at google maps at the Hotel M and that can't be it.Nope, that's not it. The long winding driveway you went to is probably the casa that uses one of Escorbar's former houses. The Hotel M is not a casa or similar. It's a regular guest house that girls happen to hang out at. The hotel has no function in selecting girls, getting girls, or such. Hotel M (the mansion) is located here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/AyewuNghXyKHhAqi7.
I've never stayed at the San Peter but I've been on la 70 many times at different times of day. I don't know how anyone could live there. I'm told there are soundproof windows but I have my doubts I could tolerate it. There are other options. My recommendation would be to spend a bit of time with one of the map applications and be sure the places you consider are at least two streets away from la 70. The noise level is really hard to imagine until you experience it and it goes on all night every night.
When I stayed there I found it very noisy even during the week from the street noise and ended up moving somewhere else. I think I booked it on expedia with pay at location. They only accepted cash for payment at San Peter. No credit card or debit availble.
I decided to hit up Centro as I haven't been down here in a while and I have this 21 year old vennie that I met back in August that's been dying to repeat with me. I got her to agree to BBFS cip for 60 mil and I pay the room. She didn't disappoint by the way.
I got down here a little early and while I was waiting for her to arrive I did a tour around plaza botero inside of the barriers. I noticed that behind the museum there is a gap in the barriers (see attached photo) where people can exit and enter onto cra 53 (the bar street) without any police there manning the gap. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of even having the barriers in the first place?
Anyways centro is still as great as always I had a great session and my favorite limonada lady still hooks me up with a big ass vaso of limonada for 2 mil pesos.
I was disappointed to see that one my favorite restaurants "Chorizos and Asados" is no longer there. It got replaced by some bullshit called Rey de Sopas.
The third picture is from inside hotel botero real (el hotel rojo) from the point of view of the stairs looking out of the entrance.
I expected these barriers to be good soon maybe within the next month as soon as Fico takes over.
ElSexoChino7
12-08-23, 20:27
To further clarify the noise issues at San Peter as noted by Giz99, and which do result in many short and aborted stays: Noise levels vary by floor of apartment (2 to 17), orientation (bedroom facing La 70 side of the building with its discos and bars, or the quieter Calle 42 to the rear), and whether the apartment has airport-grade windows insulated for sound. Rental price per unit tends to vary accordingly. All that said, there are a number of long term, happy campers there, myself included (a geezer who can deal with any residual Bad Bunny, Latin Trap decibels from the street below by removing his hearing aids at night).I'll probably passed on this one. Can't deal with noise that much and I'm a light sleeper. Has anybody stayed at Hotel Dorado 70?
18 year-old girl has been arrested for the murder of 55 year old American in El Poblado (20+ stab wounds).
The victim had contacted the alleged aggressor through a dating platform.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/mujer-de-18-anos-enviada-a-la-carcel-por-asesinato-de-estadounidense-en-el-poblado-PK23299273Stabbed 20+ times in the neck. Nice people we're dealing with.
JohnnieCash
12-09-23, 14:05
Turkish citizen (39 yo) stabbed to death inside an apartment he rented in Laureles.
The criminals apparently intended to steal his belongings when he was with a woman inside the place where he was staying.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/atacaron-a-turista-turco-en-un-apartamento-de-laureles-PK23298632
I expected these barriers to be good soon maybe within the next month as soon as Fico takes over.To be gone for good*.
I thought there might be an opening on the side of the museum again because I noticed the flow of pedestrian traffic was flowing in a way I had not seen since the barriers went up. I asked one of the merchants but he told me no. I'm glad he was wrong. Also new in the plaza is the opening of branches of three long time Provenza businesses, La Tasca Espanola, Bam Bam (hamburgers) and El Social (coming soon) in and near the former Tostao location. The owner of La Tasca is the head of the Provenza business owner association and the self appointed mayor of Provenza. I admire her tireless promotion of Medellin tourism. She famously put her foot down and demanded the authorities take action against the foreigner who paraded a scantily clad woman through Provenza on a leash with a dog collar attached to her neck. The foreigner was later deported.
I decided to hit up Centro as I haven't been down here in a while and I have this 21 year old vennie that I met back in August that's been dying to repeat with me. I got her to agree to BBFS cip for 60 mil and I pay the room. She didn't disappoint by the way.
I got down here a little early and while I was waiting for her to arrive I did a tour around plaza botero inside of the barriers. I noticed that behind the museum there is a gap in the barriers (see attached photo) where people can exit and enter onto cra 53 (the bar street) without any police there manning the gap. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of even having the barriers in the first place?
Anyways centro is still as great as always I had a great session and my favorite limonada lady still hooks me up with a big ass vaso of limonada for 2 mil pesos.
I was disappointed to see that one my favorite restaurants "Chorizos and Asados" is no longer there. It got replaced by some bullshit called Rey de Sopas.
The third picture is from inside hotel botero real (el hotel rojo) from the point of view of the stairs looking out of the entrance.
I expected these barriers to be good soon maybe within the next month as soon as Fico takes over.
Coming to Medellin for my first trip and do not speak Spanish. Friend was coming with that speaks it and been there before, but he had heart attack and can't come.
Could use a coach / mentor while there to help me learn mainly where to go and not go. Be glad to compensate for their time, or at least buy some meals and drinks.
Maybe someone very experience from US that could advise me some about spending 3/4 months year there during our winter months.
I have read a lot of information on here, but nothing like having an experienced and knowledgeable new friend to advise me.
Details;
73 year young, great health, good personality, know my time chasing "monky" is passing fast so have sense of urgency to get as much of it as I possibly can!
To hell with the kids inheritance, they would waste it anyway. LOL.
From Tennessee, spend 3/4 months Florida as snowbird, but getting so expensive there thinking of changing to Colombia.
Fly into Medellin next week on Spirit December 15 for 12 days. Yes we were planning a heck of a time, I can't get refund on tickets so I'm going make best of it as I can.
See this trip now mainly as; learning safe areas, common safety precautions, the culture, the people, the currency, or let me say things you had to learn the hard way.
Feel free to private message with any questions or ideas you may have.
Monky eye.
You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.
Where can you find girls like this in Colombia? Last time I was there most the girls were poor looking or not that attractive and out of shape. Bbl's and fake tits don't do it for me.
I've never stayed at the San Peter but I've been on la 70 many times at different times of day. I don't know how anyone could live there. I'm told there are soundproof windows but I have my doubts I could tolerate it.At San Peters, they were advertising that rooms were upgraded / changed to soundproof windows. That is total BS. Look at the windows. Why is that soundproof?
I was told that you have to initially have to build the building to make it soundproof. I believe you have to have a double window (2 windows separated by air) to make it soundproof. The only / best place I know that has that is the Majestic Suites in Bangkok. The rooms that face busy Suk are quiet.
I'll probably passed on this one. Can't deal with noise that much and I'm a light sleeper.You have to get the rooms that faces away from Avenida 70. I've never stayed at those rooms, so I can't confirm. But those rooms faces away from Avenida 70, which has all the bars.
Mr Enternational
12-09-23, 22:01
Turkish citizen (39 yo) stabbed to death inside an apartment he rented in Laureles. The criminals apparently intended to steal his belongings when he was with a woman inside the place where he was staying.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/atacaron-a-turista-turco-en-un-apartamento-de-laureles-PK23298632I like that the article gave us some numbers to work with. It said that crime against foreign tourists is on the rise. This year there have been 248 reported thefts and 26 violent deaths.
"To hell with the kids inheritance, they would waste it anyway. LOL. ".
Monkey Eye you are a star. That's how I feel too.
Coming to Medellin for my first trip and do not speak Spanish. Friend was coming with that speaks it and been there before, but he had heart attack and can't come.
Could use a coach / mentor while there to help me learn mainly where to go and not go. Be glad to compensate for their time, or at least buy some meals and drinks.
Maybe someone very experience from US that could advise me some about spending 3/4 months year there during our winter months.
I have read a lot of information on here, but nothing like having an experienced and knowledgeable new friend to advise me.
Details;
73 year young, great health, good personality, know my time chasing "monky" is passing fast so have sense of urgency to get as much of it as I possibly can!
To hell with the kids inheritance, they would waste it anyway. LOL.
From Tennessee, spend 3/4 months Florida as snowbird, but getting so expensive there thinking of changing to Colombia.
Fly into Medellin next week on Spirit December 15 for 12 days. Yes we were planning a heck of a time, I can't get refund on tickets so I'm going make best of it as I can.
See this trip now mainly as; learning safe areas, common safety precautions, the culture, the people, the currency, or let me say things you had to learn the hard way.
Feel free to private message with any questions or ideas you may have.
Monky eye.
Hi guys,
I am going to Medellin in February 18-26.
Been there already, but this time I am traveling alone. Anyone plans to be there in that time?
Looking for a wingman.
Turkish citizen (39 yo) stabbed to death inside an apartment he rented in Laureles.
The criminals apparently intended to steal his belongings when he was with a woman inside the place where he was staying.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/atacaron-a-turista-turco-en-un-apartamento-de-laureles-PK23298632Do you have a later report that says he died? The report you referenced says his health status is reserved.
AmorPorFavor
12-10-23, 02:11
You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.All the girls I fuck in MDE are at least that hot. There are tons of them available. I checked her IG, no tits and fat on her ass. Even so she has a million followers, another reason I wouldn't do her.
You are generalizing in a very broad way.
You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.
... but nothing like having an experienced and knowledgeable new friend to advise me..
I recommend staying at the Mansion, aka Hotel M, if it's your first time in Medellin.
http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/.You should be able to find some new friends if you stay at Mansion.
...At San Peters, they were advertising that rooms were upgraded / changed to soundproof windows. That is total BS. Look at the windows. Why is that soundproof?.Not all rooms have soundproof windows. I have been in the soundproof room. It's better but the ambient noise is obvious even for me. It really depends on one's sensitivity level. It works for some, but some will still be bothered.
The apartment number that ends with 01 have bedroom facing La 70 and are noisy. The noise level is high on weekends until to 4 or 5 AM Monday morning.
You won't, girls that look like that are not usually in the business and if they are they are linked up to a Narco and won't usually play with tourist.This is a load of crap. I'm sure if he looks hard enough he can find some botox assess here in Medellin.
Nil Admirari
12-10-23, 18:15
Fernando Botero: Dead or Alive? If asked six months ago, I would have flunked the quiz, and was surprised to learn from this linked article that he just gave up the ghost in September. For those of you who speak / read Spanish with some fluency (especially the El Centro Rats who spend much of their waking hours loitering in the shadows of his rotund sculptures in the eponymous Plaza Botero), this interview with him (conducted shortly before his death) from today's Spanish edition of the Times, may be of interest. Click on: https://www.nytimes.com/es/2023/12/09/espanol/fernando-botero-entrevista.html#text=%C2%BFCree%20 que%20 hoy%20 en%20 d%C3%ADa, sobre%20 temas%20 m%C3%A1's%20 bien%20 amables.
I'm looking for recommendations near Mansion for incall / outcall professional massage (doesn't matter if it includes he or not) please.
Fernando Botero: Dead or Alive? If asked six months ago, I would have flunked the quiz, and was surprised to learn from this linked article that he just gave up the ghost in September. For those of you who speak / read Spanish with some fluency (especially the El Centro Rats who spend much of their waking hours loitering in the shadows of his rotund sculptures in the eponymous Plaza Botero), this interview with him (conducted shortly before his death) from today's Spanish edition of the Times, may be of interest. Click on: https://www.nytimes.com/es/2023/12/09/espanol/fernando-botero-entrevista.html#text=%C2%BFCree%20 que%20 hoy%20 en%20 d%C3%ADa, sobre%20 temas%20 m%C3%A1's%20 bien%20 amables.I was in Medellin when that happened. The coffin was brought to the museum for one day and there was a walkthrough-wake (no stopping) open to public. Some events were held in the Plaza too.
There seems to be an English version of the article as well:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/special-series/fernando-botero-art-life-legacy.html
BTW for paywalled articles the extension "Bypass Paywalls Chrome Clean" can be used.
I think this was my 6th trip to Medellin this year. I was last there in late August but did not make a trip report. This trip was short because it was last minute and also I had promised a friend at work that we would attend a boxing match at Chase Center in San Francisco on Dec 9th.
I had barely 6 months on my last passport when I made my last visit in August. So, I reapplied by sending the still valid passport for expedited service and got it back in 4 weeks. They sent back the old with hole punches 2 weeks after that.
I live in Nor Cal. So, pretty much 2 choices: San Jose or San Francisco. I chose San Francisco even though it is 45 min drive. I had used San Jose SJC for flights with American but I think they suck. On my way back to USA from MDE the previous 2 trips. There were delays up to an hour or more causing me to miss my connecting flight out of MIA. I always noticed that the JetBlue flight only 30 minutes earlier heading to Fort Lauderdale (FLL) was always on time.
I have tried 3 different airlines flying to Medellin: Avianca, American and JetBlue. I believe that JetBlue is has better service than the other two by far. I know I won't fly on Avianca anymore it was bad. No decent food and drinks are poor inflight entertain. Oh and rock hard seats in economy.
About the trip- I use Seeking, Tinder and the rest comes from visits to Lleras Park and Botero. I am still seeing Laura who I met off of Seeking from my first visit last February. However, on this visit I only saw her once since her family was having a "dinner. " That was okay with me and that's what I like about her is that she isn't too needy. When she comes over the visits are longer because she likes giving me head for extending periods of time and letting me finish down her throat likes its nothing. That leaves enough for for me to give her a cream pie. She wants more but I have no more give. When I play with big nipples she cuts.
I digress. I actually saw Yoli (Tinder) on Sunday when I arrived. I had met her two visits prior. Yoli is morenita I think that means black girl. As a black guy myself a woman like that is a delicacy. I had bought her a red Victoria Secret teddy for the last visit but she flaked. I brought it back this time because the sex was good. No her effort which was kind of off but she had a nice full figure and big tits. Her pussy was nice and wet and lips when she sucked my dick felt soft. She's 24 but is 9 out 10 on the needy scale. She wants me to buy her a dog. Her mother is sick. She needs money to eat and so on and so forth. That was my last visit her and she left her charger in my room on purpose. I paid her 300 to leave. She let me take photos but I don't know how to post them on here.
https://youtu.be/PKlpb5-FdPE?si=uZPqFafZTiNxec4m
A Panamanian American was stabbed to death by 4 dudes Dec 9th in the Pueblo of Santa Barbara, Antioquia (roughly 2 hours drive from Medellin). They also stole his moto and his dog. The deceased had been living there for only 3 months.
For those who use the airport buses, they were recently equipped with Civica card readers. You can pay your fare (14,000 pesos) with a Civica card or cash. Assuming you keep a charged Civica, it can save you the time of visiting an ATM if you don't have cash on hand when you arrive. There is also now a Metro link but I don't have any personal experience with it. It doesn't seem that convenient if you are traveling with luggage. I think you can use it to pick up an airport bus at the Industriales station.
I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.
Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.
DiscoverFL
12-11-23, 14:48
I'm looking for recommendations near Mansion for incall / outcall professional massage (doesn't matter if it includes he or not) please.The mansion has someone on-call for professional massages (non-sexual). Otherwise, there are a couple professional places down Carrera 43 A as you walk towards the Santafé Mall. Google Maps is popular here, so you can use it to find places and see reviews.
DiscoverFL
12-11-23, 14:50
I have tried 3 different airlines flying to Medellin: Avianca, American and JetBlue. I believe that JetBlue is has better service than the other two by far. I know I won't fly on Avianca anymore it was bad. No decent food and drinks are poor inflight entertain. Oh and rock hard seats in economy.If you upgrade to larger front seats, Spirit and Avianca seats are 1000% better than JetBlue's crappy larger seats.
SankarShetty
12-11-23, 16:23
Removing your hearing aids. That's a first for combating noise. ROTFL.
To further clarify the noise issues at San Peter as noted by Giz99, and which do result in many short and aborted stays: Noise levels vary by floor of apartment (2 to 17), orientation (bedroom facing La 70 side of the building with its discos and bars, or the quieter Calle 42 to the rear), and whether the apartment has airport-grade windows insulated for sound. Rental price per unit tends to vary accordingly. All that said, there are a number of long term, happy campers there, myself included (a geezer who can deal with any residual Bad Bunny, Latin Trap decibels from the street below by removing his hearing aids at night).
SankarShetty
12-11-23, 16:33
People are definitely weird. I ran in to guys who have more than 20 trips under their belt and just keep coming back to Mansion. Don't know why or what's going on in their heads.
Only the most rookie nookie seekers should stay at that place. It sucks.
Thanks! Good to know Mansion has options!
The mansion has someone on-call for professional massages (non-sexual). Otherwise, there are a couple professional places down Carrera 43 A as you walk towards the Santaf Mall. Google Maps is popular here, so you can use it to find places and see reviews.
DiscoverFL
12-11-23, 18:18
I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.
Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.You need to step back and understand this problem originates in Canada first, by them charging Colombians $100-185 Canadian for a visa to visit Canada. Colombia has enacted a reciprocal visa fee in response. I'm sure once you write to your Canadian leaders and convince them how unfair to charge such high fees to Colombian visitors is, and they remove those fees, that Colombia will subsequently remove their visa fee. What is fair is fair.
I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.
Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.The reciprocal thing is getting really annoying. These third world countries need to listen to Floyd Mayweather when he talks about A side and be side. When he fought delahoya Oscar was the A side and Floyd said he was the be side. It was a 65/35 split in Oscars favor. After beating him, Floyd was the A side and got the bigger cut against Manny and Connor. Colombia and Brazil are the be side and shouldn't be acting like the A side. America has tons of rich people ready to blow their money. These other countries, not so much.
You need to step back and understand this problem originates in Canada first, by them charging Colombians $100-185 Canadian for a visa to visit Canada. Colombia has enacted a reciprocal visa fee in response. I'm sure once you write to your Canadian leaders and convince them how unfair to charge such high fees to Colombian visitors is, and they remove those fees, that Colombia will subsequently remove their visa fee. What is fair is fair.If Colombia wasn't full of people that scope you and kill people they might not be charged so much.
Spirit's big front seats are great. Usually you can check at check-in to see if they have any available and the upgrade fee has been reasonable, in my experience, from $25-40, which for the long flight time from Colombia to the US is very nice to have.
If you upgrade to larger front seats, Spirit and Avianca seats are 1000% better than JetBlue's crappy larger seats.
Husker Dude
12-11-23, 18:35
I'm looking for recommendations near Mansion for incall / outcall professional massage (doesn't matter if it includes he or not) please.Mansions massage girl is named Paola. Really great massagemwith no extras is 200 K. There are several places in Rio Sur Mall that you can get professional massages, with or without extras. Also a place1 block up the hill from the Mansion, turn left 1/2 block, forget the name though.
A Canadian friend told me this was coming up. I'm not Canadian so I didn't give it another thought. I came through Bogota a few weeks ago and noticed the line in immigration for Canadians to pay the fee. One of the agents kept yelling "people with Canadian passports in this line!" Whatever the politics, to answer the original poster's question, the alternative to paying the fee each time you enter is to get a visa. A Colombian visa is different than the tourist entry stamp that you are getting now. There are various kinds of visas. The cost all in will be about US $100 and, depending on the type of visa, it will be valid for one to three years. I think it will work out to be more economical for a Canadian who visits more than once a year. There are a number of annoying bureaucratic steps but it's doable.
I was anally raped entering Medellin recently. Had no idea or warning by any airline that upon entry, anyone with a Canadian passport will be made to pay about hundred backs so called reciprocal visa fee. In effect since Nov 15. Must use credit / debit card to pay. One of the brilliant gem by the new president.
Are there any 5 or 10 year long, multiple entry TOURIST visas available for Colombia? Can't pay hundred backs every few months.
If you upgrade to larger front seats, Spirit and Avianca seats are 1000% better than JetBlue's crappy larger seats.It's more than the seats for me. You have to bring your own food and drinks on Avianca because all you'll get it is chicken and rice and a can of soda if you're lucky. JetBlue keeps their drinks and snacks out so people can get what they want. These national legacy carriers I will include Phillipines Airlines are interested in providing quality service this is especially true if you are visitor and not a resident if you know what I mean.
I knew a bit about the phones requiring registration so made sure to buy the SIM from shopping mall and official movistar shop. They asked for my original passport and entered something in computer plus made a copy of my passport so I thought all requirements have been carried out. I left after a week and returned a few months later to find that sim 1 was not working. Well that is why I have SIm2 so I bought a second sim from movistar shop again. A few months later when I returned once again, the phone just won't work so I decided to use the second phone and foolishly bought yet another sim from Movistar.
Obviously none of the sim / imei were registered. Both phones are now blocked.
I went to main office of claro in Los Molinos. They said they can't unblock a phone blocked by movistar. Does anyone know if this true?
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Then went to main office of Movistar in same mall. Well, I was told that in order to have the phone unblocked, I need to bring in a Colombia citizen who would tetify on my behalf. What the bloody hell? I told him that I have the same passport that the SIM were registered to but he said no chance.
Is the above true or did I talk to someone who had no clue?
I am really having hard time and don't know if there is any other way of getting the phones unblocked.
Any suggestions, anyone?
Thank you for replying. I am trying to find the info about getting a Colombia tourist visa but can't find any information.
Can you please elaborate a bit how and where can one get it from, specially if applying from Canada? Thanks again.
A Canadian friend told me this was coming up. I'm not Canadian so I didn't give it another thought. I came through Bogota a few weeks ago and noticed the line in immigration for Canadians to pay the fee. One of the agents kept yelling "people with Canadian passports in this line!" Whatever the politics, to answer the original poster's question, the alternative to paying the fee each time you enter is to get a visa. A Colombian visa is different than the tourist entry stamp that you are getting now. There are various kinds of visas. The cost all in will be about US $100 and, depending on the type of visa, it will be valid for one to three years. I think it will work out to be more economical for a Canadian who visits more than once a year. There are a number of annoying bureaucratic steps but it's doable.
I didn't have any issues filling it out on my computer using Google Chrome. Some guys have complained about it but I think if you just go slowly and double check your entries, it should work. I've been flying Spirit to Medellin and I can tell you that Spirit always ask to see your checkmig confirmation and if you don't have it, they make you fill it out before they will check you in. There were a number of people scrambling to fill out that form as they waited in line. As for people who say that immigration never asked for the paper form, it's on the computer when they enter the passport number. That is why they are not asking you very many questions once they scan your passport. I wouldn't try to fly to Medellin without filling out that form.
Thank you for replying. I am trying to find the info about getting a Colombia tourist visa but can't find any information.
Can you please elaborate a bit how and where can one get it from, specially if applying from Canada? Thanks again.You get a stamp in your passport when you arrive. That's your tourist visa. Generally good for 90 days if that's what they write on the stamp. That is the process if you are Canadian or American and fly in. Nothing needed in advance, other that filling out the Check-mig before you fly so they have your info for their immigration {migracion} when you land. Canadians have the privilege of also paying the extra tax or fee of around 90 dollars to get into Colombia.
Mansions massage girl is named Paola. Really great massagemwith no extras is 200 K. There are several places in Rio Sur Mall that you can get professional massages, with or without extras. Also a place1 block up the hill from the Mansion, turn left 1/2 block, forget the name though.Been to the place up hill from the mansion a couple times. Good massage, reasonable price, he available for a propina.
I knew a bit about the phones requiring registration so made sure to buy the SIM from shopping mall and official movistar shop. They asked for my original passport and entered something in computer plus made a copy of my passport so I thought all requirements have been carried out. I left after a week and returned a few months later to find that sim 1 was not working. Well that is why I have SIm2 so I bought a second sim from movistar shop again. A few months later when I returned once again, the phone just won't work so I decided to use the second phone and foolishly bought yet another sim from Movistar.
Obviously none of the sim / imei were registered. Both phones are now blocked.
I went to main office of claro in Los Molinos. They said they can't unblock a phone blocked by movistar. Does anyone know if this true?
I.
Then went to main office of Movistar in same mall. Well, I was told that in order to have the phone unblocked, I need to bring in a Colombia citizen who would tetify on my behalf. What the bloody hell? I told him that I have the same passport that the SIM were registered to but he said no chance.
Is the above true or did I talk to someone who had no clue?
I am really having hard time and don't know if there is any other way of getting the phones unblocked.
Any suggestions, anyone?It has to be the original seller, in your case Movistar. Claro can't unlock if it was a result of a Movistar SIM originally. And it is not really an unlock per se, but your IMEI itself that is blocked for any carrier in the country. As for bringing aa Colombian citizen. Not sure but I think they can waive that and do it on your behalf if you can provide sufficient information that you are the person with that passport, etc.
It would seem that whoever sold you the phone might have been a "reseller" of packages for Movistar, and if that is the case they can give you the package with minutes, data, etc. But in reality it is still registered in the name of the reseller, and also it would seem like your phone was never properly registered. Happened to me as well.
In any case, only the original seller can get it unblocked.
I went to main office of claro in Los Molinos. They said they can't unblock a phone blocked by movistar. Does anyone know if this true?Any suggestions, anyone?
Had similar situation when I returned to the Exito market where I purchased a virgin mobile Sim from a representative the previous 2 trips with same phone obviously. I figured I use the same service virgin mobile since I had no problems the previous 2 times. When I went to the Exito to purchase another Sim card the sales clerk was trying to sell me some Colombian company Sim card I was rold the virgin Sim card rep wasn't there, so I figured whatever as long as my phone worked. But they tried the Sim card and they couldn't get it to work. Long story short I went to a Claro store and the sales clerk tried to get there Sim card to work and showed me a message that virgin mobile had lock my phone. I ended up going back to the Exito the next day and found the Virgin mobile clerk and actually had to get my phone unlock and told me that Sim card would'nt work until the following day. When the phone finally worked the following day. Virgin sends me a text saying I need to register the phone. So I take it back to the virgin rep and she registers it. Now I though why couldn't the previous two Sales reps that tried to get my phone working with different networks just unlock my phone. Probably Virgin mobile lock my phone so I had to use their network to get it unlocked. My phone was registered the previous times as far as I know. And I also was informed by a Colombian that sometimes phone companies will do that so you get stuck using there network. Maybe this will help. Good luck anyways.
I knew a bit about the phones requiring registration so made sure to buy the SIM from shopping mall and official movistar shop. They asked for my original passport and entered something in computer plus made a copy of my passport so I thought all requirements have been carried out. I left after a week and returned a few months later to find that sim 1 was not working. Well that is why I have SIm2 so I bought a second sim from movistar shop again. A few months later when I returned once again, the phone just won't work so I decided to use the second phone and foolishly bought yet another sim from Movistar.
Obviously none of the sim / imei were registered. Both phones are now blocked.
I went to main office of claro in Los Molinos. They said they can't unblock a phone blocked by movistar. Does anyone know if this true?
I.
Then went to main office of Movistar in same mall. Well, I was told that in order to have the phone unblocked, I need to bring in a Colombia citizen who would tetify on my behalf. What the bloody hell? I told him that I have the same passport that the SIM were registered to but he said no chance.
Is the above true or did I talk to someone who had no clue?
I am really having hard time and don't know if there is any other way of getting the phones unblocked.
Any suggestions, anyone?Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? Seems like every couple months someone posts about this.
Everytime you buy a new phone or bring in a phone from out of country you have to register the IMEI of said phone. Not sure about Movistar but with Tigo and Claro you can do this yourself within the miTigo or mi Claro app.
It is a relatively simple process that asks for your cedula number if you are a citizen or passport number if you are a foreigner. There is no need to have someone from the cell phone store do it for you and there is no need to keep buying a new sim card every few months. I have had the same Tigo sim card now since early 2022 and I have used it in various different phones.
I believe there is a grace period of like 25 days from the date that you first use the phone (whether as a newly purchased phone or as a phone you brought into Colombia from el extrajero) to register the phone before it is IMEI blocked for not registering it.
Atleast with Tigo and Claro they will send you warning messages during these 25 days telling you to register the IMEI not sure about Movistar.
Thank you for replying. I am trying to find the info about getting a Colombia tourist visa but can't find any information.
Can you please elaborate a bit how and where can one get it from, specially if applying from Canada? Thanks again.There isn't a "tourist visa" there is a "tourist stamp" this stamp gives you 90 days each time you visit with a maximum of 180 days per calendar year. There is an option to extend the 90 days to 180 days without having to leave and come back. That is called a "permiso temporal para prorrogar permanencia" and requieres a few hoops to jump through and a $30 usd fee but it isn't rocket science and it can be done all online thru the migracion Colombia website.
Now if you want a visa that will alow you to stay for a year or longer then there are several different categories of visas you can apply for (most are 2 years and some may be up to 4 years).
From what I understand the easiest one to get is the student visa. It is good for up to 2 years. What you need to do is pay for 2 years of Spanish classes and an accredited school such as EAFIT. I believe I read there is some other school that has locations inside of the malls and is alot cheaper and they actually help you with the visa paperwork too.
Anyways after you have receipts and paperwork showing that you have enrolled in Spanish classes for the period of time you want to stay (up to 2 years). Then you can apply for the student visa with migracion Colombia and submit the proof that you are enrolled as a student at EAFIT (or the other cheaper school) and pay the associated fee and they will grant you a visa that is good for 2 years (or the length of time for which you are enrolled but the maximum is 2 years).
During this 2 years you can stay or you can come and go using the student visa as your entry key instead of the 90 day stamp and you won't have to pay the Canadian entry fee each time you enter.
As far as actually going to the classes I read that the school doesn't really give a damn if you show up or not, once you have paid the tuition and enrolled and received your student visa you are good for the length of the visa whether you attend class or not. The school isn't going to call migracion Colombia and snitch on you that you aren't showing up for your classes LOL. However I would recommend going to class since you paid for it and it's a good learning experience.
I think EAFIT is more expensive but the one in the malls is about $600 usd for each year of classes or something like that.
You may be able to request the same visa every 2 years or use a mixture of several different visas back to back (when each one expires, getting a new one) and be able to stay in Colombia perpetually for the length of your passport validity, however this would take alot of money.
There are also other visas which may be more affordable such as the digital nomad visa if you work remotely or there is a pensioners visa if you are on social security. There may also be business visas if you own or are involved in some kind of business venture here.
You just need to look on the migracion Colombia website to see what different visas they offer and which one is best for your needs.
Now if you are just a weekend warrior visiting for a week or two at a time you probably just will have to cough up the extra $90 bucks and use the 90 day stamp thing.
Mr Enternational
12-12-23, 12:25
It's more than the seats for me. You have to bring your own food and drinks on Avianca because all you'll get it is chicken and rice and a can of soda if you're lucky. JetBlue keeps their drinks and snacks out so people can get what they want.Why not bring your own stuff if you have to have something specific, or eat before you get in the plane? No need to test your luck that something you do not want may be on offer.
https://youtu.be/PKlpb5-FdPE?si=uZPqFafZTiNxec4m
A Panamanian American was stabbed to death by 4 dudes Dec 9th in the Pueblo of Santa Barbara, Antioquia (roughly 2 hours drive from Medellin). They also stole his moto and his dog. The deceased had been living there for only 3 months.Colombia is getting very dangerous.
Why not bring your own stuff if you have to have something specific, or eat before you get in the plane? No need to test your luck that something you do not want may be on offer.Exactly. Like for example I always use Wingo from Cancun to Medellin or Bogota and wingo sucks as far as food goes, but they have this really good burger place right there in the airport called Johnny Rockets. So I always get a big ass bbq bacon cheese burger and onion rings to bring on the plane with me and eat on the way to Colombia. Problem solved.
Shit happens.
Colombia is getting very dangerous.
You don't have to bring Viagra to Columbia if you need it. You can buy it at a reasonable price at any pharmacy. Viagra and Cialis The generic versions are available. The price may vary at least for Viagra it's about a dollar a pill. The prices do vary depending on the pharmacy so like anything else, you should shop around if you have time.
If you forgot to bring your prescription drugs, like I did, you can buy it at the pharmacy and it's going to be cheaper but not as cheap as your copay with health insurance. I had miscounted the number of prescription pills that I needed and I was short four pills. They only sold it in a 10 pack and it was $2.20 each pill.
DiscoverFL
12-12-23, 18:18
You don't have to bring Viagra to Columbia if you need it. You can buy it at a reasonable price at any pharmacy. Viagra and Cialis The generic versions are available. The price may vary at least for Viagra it's about a dollar a pill. The prices do vary depending on the pharmacy so like anything else, you should shop around if you have time.
If you forgot to bring your prescription drugs, like I did, you can buy it at the pharmacy and it's going to be cheaper but not as cheap as your copay with health insurance. I had miscounted the number of prescription pills that I needed and I was short four pills. They only sold it in a 10 pack and it was $2.20 each pill.One exception to that is Dapoxetine, marketed as Priligy, a medication used for the treatment of premature ejaculation. For some reason it is not approved in Colombia and thus not available in country. If someone needs it, best they bring their own prescription. I discovered this helping someone at the Mansion who was trying to find it, and we discovered that you can't get it in Colombia.
Thanks for this info. Do you know if we can get delay sprays like Promecent? Even if it is same price as US not having to bring will be easier.
One exception to that is Dapoxetine, marketed as Priligy, a medication used for the treatment of premature ejaculation. For some reason it is not approved in Colombia and thus not available in country. If someone needs it, best they bring their own prescription. I discovered this helping someone at the Mansion who was trying to find it, and we discovered that you can't get it in Colombia.
Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? - The answer is right there in your reply.
1. visitors should avoid movistar and use claro or tigo.
2. Should use a big offcial store (LOS Molinos shopping mall in laureles).
3. do NOT leave the store till you have ensured that store has registered the imei or you have downloaded the required app or know which web site to use for self registration.
Many, like me, visit just for a week or even 2-3 days and don't get the warning or ignore it.
No one has clarified the above before, hence the problems.
Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? Seems like every couple months someone posts about this.
Everytime you buy a new phone or bring in a phone from out of country you have to register the IMEI of said phone. Not sure about Movistar but with Tigo and Claro you can do this yourself within the miTigo or mi Claro app.
It is a relatively simple process that asks for your cedula number if you are a citizen or passport number if you are a foreigner. There is no need to have someone from the cell phone store do it for you and there is no need to keep buying a new sim card every few months. I have had the same Tigo sim card now since early 2022 and I have used it in various different phones.
I believe there is a grace period of like 25 days from the date that you first use the phone (whether as a newly purchased phone or as a phone you brought into Colombia from el extrajero) to register the phone before it is IMEI blocked for not registering it.
Atleast with Tigo and Claro they will send you warning messages during these 25 days telling you to register the IMEI not sure about Movistar.
John Gault
12-13-23, 02:37
Authorities in Medellin, Colombia, have identified the body of a man who was found stabbed multiple times as that of Twin Cities comedian Tou Ger Xiong, who grew up in St. Paul and was known as an advocate for the Hmong community.
News of his death was carried online Tuesday by the Medellin-based newspaper El Colombiano, which reported that Tou Ger Xiong's body was recovered from the Corcovada ravine in the city's Robledo La Pola neighborhood. He suffered multiple stab wounds and blunt force trauma, according to the newspaper.
A written statement on Tuesday from Eh Xiong, Tou Ger Xiong's brother, described him as a "cherished member of our family, and the pain of his loss is indescribable. We are cooperating fully with law enforcement agencies who are diligently working to investigate this heinous crime. ".
Tou Ger Xiong, 50, a recipient of the prestigious Bush Fellowship in 2019, was a founder of "Hmong Minnesota Day" at the Minnesota State Fair, which draws Hmong visitors by the dozens to a stage led by Hmong cultural and musical acts. Tou Ger Xiong (Courtesy of the Bush Foundation).
A consummate storyteller, performer, motivational speaker and emcee, he hosted an online broadcast, "The Tou Ger Xiong Show," and often reflected on his own experience as a refugee growing up in the St. Paul Public Housing Authority's low-income Dunedin Hi-Rise.
In 2011, he married Andrea Bennett, who would be crowned Mrs. Minnesota International in 2013. The couple filed for divorce in 2019.
El Colombiano reported that Tou Ger Xiong, while on vacation in Medellin, had attempted to meet up with a woman he had met through social media, but was taken captive instead by men who contacted his friends and family by telephone to demand cash. On Monday, authorities confirmed that the kidnappers decided to kill him, possibly in retaliation for trying to escape.
Tou Ger Xiong's body was later found in a wooded area of the Robledo neighborhood with more than a dozen stab wounds and multiple bruises, apparently caused by a 60-foot fall into the tributary.
The newspaper reported that when authorities went to Tou Ger Xiong's apartment, they found a woman removing items from it. Authorities attempted to question her but she ran away.
Citing the city's central office, the newspaper said Tou Ger Xiong's homicide is the 27th violent death of non-migrant foreigners this year in the Aburr Valley region, including homicides, suicides, accidents and narcotic overdoses. In the prior month, three other foreign tourists had been killed, including two Americans.
As of early November, kidnappings in the greater area, known as Antioquia, are up 88% year-over-year.
How in the hell do the cops not catch the girl in the room?
If this guy would have rented a hotel where the girls has to giver her ID, he probably would be alive. I said in many forums, air bnb and apartments increase your risk. A hotel has security in the front. Unless you sneak a girl in, you shouldn't have problems. Also how did they get this guys family members contact info. He gave her his real number? Google voice people.
Why not bring your own stuff if you have to have something specific, or eat before you get in the plane? No need to test your luck that something you do not want may be on offer.It was a last minute trip. I packed after I got off work and had to get an Uber to SFO. No time for off site parking lots. I did not have Viagra / Cialis generics on me either but I was lucky to buy some in Lleras Park. I forgot. A can of Pepsi will cost you $3. 42 at SFO Airport.
Lucky Nuts
12-13-23, 06:14
Authorities in Medellin, Colombia, have identified the body of a man who was found stabbed multiple times as that of Twin Cities comedian Tou Ger Xiong, who grew up in St. Paul and was known as an advocate for the Hmong community.
Unfortunately this forum is reading too much like an obituaries column lately.
I like that the article gave us some numbers to work with. It said that crime against foreign tourists is on the rise. This year there have been 248 reported thefts and 26 violent deaths.Yes it's nice to have some raw numbers on the crime against tourists but they should be compared to the staggering increase of foreign tourists now visiting. Years ago I felt like the I was one of a few dozen people in the airport on any given day. Now it's always filled with hundreds or maybe even a couple thousand travelers. On a "per capita" basis I'd guess that crime is actually at a lower level than years ago. But first time visitors and naive vacationers (horny inexperienced guys) have no idea the what they are getting into here.
Lucky Nuts
12-13-23, 06:20
I didn't have any issues filling it out on my computer using Google Chrome. Some guys have complained about it but I think if you just go slowly and double check your entries, it should work. I've been flying Spirit to Medellin and I can tell you that Spirit always ask to see your checkmig confirmation and if you don't have it, they make you fill it out before they will check you in. There were a number of people scrambling to fill out that form as they waited in line. As for people who say that immigration never asked for the paper form, it's on the computer when they enter the passport number. That is why they are not asking you very many questions once they scan your passport. I wouldn't try to fly to Medellin without filling out that form.I'm coming and going every month on American Airlines and they also require proof that CheckMig has been successfully completed. If I recall correctly I think someone said that Colombia's national airline, Avianca, knows that it's not required and they don't need proof. But I can verify AA requires it every time.
Unfortunately this forum is reading too much like an obituaries column lately.
Yes it's nice to have some raw numbers on the crime against tourists but they should be compared to the staggering increase of foreign tourists now visiting. Years ago I felt like the I was one of a few dozen people in the airport on any given day. Now it's always filled with hundreds or maybe even a couple thousand travelers. On a "per capita" basis I'd guess that crime is actually at a lower level than years ago. But first time visitors and naive vacationers (horny inexperienced guys) have no idea the what they are getting into here.There might be an argument to be made that the crime rate is steady or even lower if measured by crime per thousand visitors. As noted there has been a huge increase in visitors to Colombia. If the number of visitors has gone up 10 x in 5 years But the amount of crime against tourists has gone up 5 x, that is actually a decrease in crime per 1,000 visitors. You would expect more incidents against Taurus given the huge increase in tourists visiting so it's not surprising.
Now, that is not to say the number of tourists being drugged and robbed is not high compared to the numbers in other mongering countries but you need to take a perspective on this. Even if it is, let's say, 50 guys drugged and robbed this year, the number of foreign visitors per month is 500 k or about 6 million visitors each year. So the odds are still low that you would be drugged and robbed But you would still need to be aware of surroundings and take precautions. The type of precautions you should take has been repeated many times on this website and should be followed if you want a safe trip. One big thing you can do is stay at a hotel that requires authentication from the girls and restricts other visitors. Another common theme is guys drinking with the girls. Well the easy way to wear that is don't drink with the girls. Drink with your buddies. Final thought is a lot of the druggings come from guys who are meeting girls on a regular date and not on a pay for play situation. If the girl is way out of your league and seems eager to meet with you on a regular date, you just need to have your guard up. I am always surprised by the number of older average looking guys who think young attractive women are actually interested in dating them as in a boyfriend relationship or a hookup without payment. It may happen but as they always say, if it is too good to be true, it's usually not true.
Unfortunately this forum is reading too much like an obituaries column lately.
Yes it's nice to have some raw numbers on the crime against tourists but they should be compared to the staggering increase of foreign tourists now visiting. Years ago I felt like the I was one of a few dozen people in the airport on any given day. Now it's always filled with hundreds or maybe even a couple thousand travelers. On a "per capita" basis I'd guess that crime is actually at a lower level than years ago. But first time visitors and naive vacationers (horny inexperienced guys) have no idea the what they are getting into here.I don't think there has been a staggering increase in foreign visitors. Perhaps someone has government stats though. I would be surprised if it is above 2019 levels again. Perhaps an increase in monger types of visitors, but even that is not clear to me. I go by hotels in Poblado area, etc. And they had a lot lower occupancy when I was there recently than they did in 2019.
Lucky Nuts
12-13-23, 14:43
The former 'murder capital of the world' is now overrun with tourists.
https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/travel-news/the-former-murder-capital-of-the-world-is-now-overrun-with-tourists-20230914-p5e4jb.html
Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?
Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.
Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.
2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit.
In the room she refuses to take off the top initially, saying what for, since I cannot kiss or touch anyway (hold on, not even touching now? You didn't mention that before) but upon the promise I won't touch and the explanation I just like the view, she takes it off. The view is great, and other than this snag, good session and service.
Later, I inquire about the titties situation.
- What happened since last time? You didn't like it?
- No, it's not that, my jefa forbade it because it wears off the breasts.
- (Jefa? Table that) What if I'd offer more money?
- No, I can't, really, these are the new rules. I don't know. I will have o check.
Why did she even tell her in the first place I wonder, but seeing how she likes to talk I'm not surprised.
- How about your novio? Can he touch?
- I don't have a novio, it's not allowed. (She got a bit sad for a moment).
- And why the different charge today?
- Because you take too long and ask for a lot, most guys finish quickly. (well, I did give her quite a run-through a various positions during the first session).
- You didn't like it?
- I did but it's not up to me.
- OK and how come you have a jefa?
- I signed a 10 year contract.
- WTF?
- Yeah. I will be free at 28. I have to work here.
- In Centro?
- And in the bar. But Centro we don't work often. She charges me 200 mil per client.
- Now here, it makes no sense, chicas here charge about 50 mil everybody knows that, how can she charge you 200?
- I know but she says I'm young and should be charging 200.
- But it makes no sense, you are better off not going to the room, at least you won't owe her anything.
- No, I will still owe her if I don't have clients.
- Can you stop working for her?
- No, I have debts and signed a contract.
Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, or what.
I gave up further questioning for a while trying to process this confusing information. I'm still not sure whether I didn't misunderstand something, it makes no sense, maybe she charges her 200 mil daily (which is still a lot) or she's lying or not explaining it right.
- Do you have any money left for yourself?
- No, nothing left usually, I have debts to pay my jefa. (She chuckled and shrugged with resignation).
- This bar you are working at, you have clients there?
- Yeah, clients and they also have us tested, so don't worry. My jefa is here in Centro and watching with whom I go with and for how long. There are other girls in my group here too that she is watching. That's how things work.
While explaining all this she remained surprisingly positive. Then she sighs and slumps staring at the floor, changing the tone, saying she doesn't want to go out there anymore and got sad. Gave her a hug. She collected herself shortly and put a cheerful face back on.
- Well OK, I would like to stay but have to go out to look for clients, they don't like us go overtime and not working, don't forget about me, hope to see you soon.
Well, with less hurried conversation maybe I would be able to make more sense out of it, I didn't feel like she's lying at all, she tried to explain things, repeated and clarified patiently when I asked, but many things make no sense.
Whatever contract she signed at 18, isn't probably legal and her naivety / ignorance seems to be getting exploited with some made up rules and arbitrary incurred 'debts'. Looks like an organised enterprise. Protective of her breasts sicne it's their 'property' and investment and one of this girl' greatest assets. The nice working clothes are provided to her by them. Accommodation probably too I guess, since she said she pays 100 mil for a month.
Not sure if I should even session with her again if they are going to incur an instant debt for that on her, have to try to clarify that next time I'll see her, since it makes no sense.
DiscoverFL
12-13-23, 15:36
I'm coming and going every month on American Airlines and they also require proof that CheckMig has been successfully completed. If I recall correctly I think someone said that Colombia's national airline, Avianca, knows that it's not required and they don't need proof. But I can verify AA requires it every time.Avianca does check it as part of issuing their paper ticket, but they may be more trusting allowing verbal confirmation. But as of my last flight with them out of Orlando they were asking / inquiring.
John Gault
12-13-23, 15:52
If this guy would have rented a hotel where the girls has to giver her ID, he probably would be alive. I said in many forums, air bnb and apartments increase your risk. A hotel has security in the front. Unless you sneak a girl in, you shouldn't have problems. Also how did they get this guys family members contact info. He gave her his real number? Google voice people.Well lets see? They have him in their power. They could either torture him for the info or he gives it so he hopes the money they want will be paid and he hopes they let him go. I think at that point he is a Dead Man Walking.
Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?
Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.
Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.
2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit.
In the room she refuses to take off the top initially, saying what for, since I cannot kiss or touch anyway (hold on, not even touching now? You didn't mention that before) but upon the promise I won't touch and the explanation I just like the view, she takes it off. The view is great, and other than this snag, good session and service.
Later, I inquire about the titties situation.
- What happened since last time? You didn't like it?
- No, it's not that, my jefa forbade it because it wears off the breasts.
- (Jefa? Table that) What if I'd offer more money?
- No, I can't, really, these are the new rules. I don't know. I will have o check.
Why did she even tell her in the first place I wonder, but seeing how she likes to talk I'm not surprised.
- How about your novio? Can he touch?
- I don't have a novio, it's not allowed. (She got a bit sad for a moment).
- And why the different charge today?
- Because you take too long and ask for a lot, most guys finish quickly. (well, I did give her quite a run-through a various positions during the first session).
- You didn't like it?
- I did but it's not up to me.
- OK and how come you have a jefa?
- I signed a 10 year contract.
- WTF?
- Yeah. I will be free at 28. I have to work here.
- In Centro?
- And in the bar. But Centro we don't work often. She charges me 200 mil per client.
- Now here, it makes no sense, chicas here charge about 50 mil everybody knows that, how can she charge you 200?
- I know but she says I'm young and should be charging 200.
- But it makes no sense, you are better off not going to the room, at least you won't owe her anything.
- No, I will still owe her if I don't have clients.
- Can you stop working for her?
- No, I have debts and signed a contract.
Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, or what.
I gave up further questioning for a while trying to process this confusing information. I'm still not sure whether I didn't misunderstand something, it makes no sense, maybe she charges her 200 mil daily (which is still a lot) or she's lying or not explaining it right.
- Do you have any money left for yourself?
- No, nothing left usually, I have debts to pay my jefa. (She chuckled and shrugged with resignation).
- This bar you are working at, you have clients there?
- Yeah, clients and they also have us tested, so don't worry. My jefa is here in Centro and watching with whom I go with and for how long. There are other girls in my group here too that she is watching. That's how things work.
While explaining all this she remained surprisingly positive. Then she sighs and slumps staring at the floor, changing the tone, saying she doesn't want to go out there anymore and got sad. Gave her a hug. She collected herself shortly and put a cheerful face back on.
- Well OK, I would like to stay but have to go out to look for clients, they don't like us go overtime and not working, don't forget about me, hope to see you soon.
Well, with less hurried conversation maybe I would be able to make more sense out of it, I didn't feel like she's lying at all, she tried to explain things, repeated and clarified patiently when I asked, but many things make no sense.
Whatever contract she signed at 18, isn't probably legal and her naivety / ignorance seems to be getting exploited with some made up rules and arbitrary incurred 'debts'. Looks like an organised enterprise. Protective of her breasts sicne it's their 'property' and investment and one of this girl' greatest assets. The nice working clothes are provided to her by them. Accommodation probably too I guess, since she said she pays 100 mil for a month.
Not sure if I should even session with her again if they are going to incur an instant debt for that on her, have to try to clarify that next time I'll see her, since it makes no sense.Excelente report. She sounds good. What hotel exactly in Centro can she be found at?? And how is she Morena, blanca, flaquita or what??
https://nypost.com/2023/12/13/news/us-comedian-tou-ger-xiong-kidnapped-killed-in-colombia-after-trying-to-meet-woman/
Probably it is already shared in the group.
A message to all you weekend warriors aka Poblado boys aka "Makin it rain fuck boys" who like to come to Medellin and act a fool and make it rain and flex your gold chains and whatnot, here is a message for you:
https://youtu.be/cy9LOLExkSg?si=6fOIv2sd_T28sB2a
Fast forward to 5:12 of the video to skip the part about the hmong dude getting kidnapped and killed and to hear the message for all you weekend warriors.
Follow along.
ElSexoChino7
12-13-23, 20:00
If this guy would have rented a hotel where the girls has to giver her ID, he probably would be alive. I said in many forums, air bnb and apartments increase your risk. A hotel has security in the front. Unless you sneak a girl in, you shouldn't have problems. Also how did they get this guys family members contact info. He gave her his real number? Google voice people.Either that or you can ask the girl to send you a photo of her cedula before meeting up or upon meeting up in a public place. You just got to tell her upfront that "it's for your security and if something bad happens to you while you're with her, she will be held responsible" or something along those lines. Also, letting her know that your hotel has her identification gives you leverage in worst case scenario. Now, if you mention that to her upfront and she refuses to give you her identification for whatever BS excuse that she will make up then it only means she is plotting something bad to you and you just moved on to the next one.
If she's just someone trying to make extra cash, giving her identification shouldn't be a problem right away. You can never let your guard down in Medellin especially nowadays and always got to think with the big head.
Avianca does check it as part of issuing their paper ticket, but they may be more trusting allowing verbal confirmation. But as of my last flight with them out of Orlando they were asking / inquiring.What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?
Mr Enternational
12-13-23, 21:18
Even if it is, let's say, 50 guys drugged and robbed this year, the number of foreign visitors per month is 500 k or about 6 million visitors each year. So the odds are still low that you would be drugged and robbedNot necessarily. If 50 guys drugged and robbed and the number of foreign mongering visitors is 10,000 per month out of the 500,000 total visitors per month, then you are diluting the numbers by including tourist that are not bringing a strange chick to their room or not outside walking alone and therefore not being drugged and robbed.
Flawless Zeal
12-13-23, 21:24
https://nypost.com/2023/12/13/news/us-comedian-tou-ger-xiong-kidnapped-killed-in-colombia-after-trying-to-meet-woman/
Probably it is already shared in the group.Goddamn, this one came up in my regular news feed. I'm really starting to think going back to Colombia would be an irrational roll of the dice for me, even though nothing unsafe happened. At least not yet. Going there instead of a safer Latin American country is probably thinking with the little head, as well as penny-wise but pound-foolish. Can find Colombians in other LA countries, just a bit more expensive.
Other day I've met a sweet and beautiful 19 yo Vennie with great rack in Centro after 9 pm. Never saw her before in there. She tells me 50 mil for 1 h. BBBJ included? Yes. (Are you new)?
Doesn't have a phone, here just with her sister (also a SW, she introduced her, no phone either). Arrived in Colombia when 15. Afternoons works in a bar somewhere north of Prado.
Before we start she asks what and how I like it, afterwards if I liked it and what can she improve. No kids, firm body and breasts, tight. Anyway, great, about 1 h long session and she earned a good propina and seemed to enjoy herself. Talkative. Insisted I give her my number on a piece of paper and we parted in good spirits.
2 days later, I didn't see her while passing through but she flags me, sweet and eager as before and nicely dressed again. Wants to go but she tells me some things have changed now. I cannot kiss her titties anymore, and now it's 50 mil for 30 min. BBJ 10 mil more. How much for 45 min? Still 50. Well fine, it's late, let's go then. In the hotel there was no rooms available. I ask where does she go usually and she says she only knows this hotel, which happens to be my preferred place anyway, so we wait a bit..I experienced similar situation with Brazilian woman in Boston US 15 or so years ago. She was working out of the apartment with her female overseer in another room. She was brought over to the States and owed some people some money, the people that you can't say 'no' to, and she said was basically working out her debts. Similar yearning reaction when I mentioned BF. Totally slaveowner & slave situation. I met someone else few years ago in the hotel who from what she told me appeared in the similar situation.
As for this girl's contract in Venezuela I bet her family sold her. I bet if she brings up legalities or decides to jet there'd be a hell to pay for people back home and she'd be dissected alive if she's ever caught + the person who helped her won't survive either. Be careful with your 'monger save a ho' desires here if you're thinking (or rather feeling) in that direction. These are very bad and very resolute people you'd be dealing with with zero scruples. Even if you somehow manage to succeed initially which is highly unlikely and would require some seriously detailed advance planning you'd be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.
My experience with Avianca last month was they paged any passenger who did not check in with an agent before going through TSA. They asked for passport, check mig, and return ticket or cedula. YMMV but why chance it?
What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?
Before the pandemic a guy was found dead in a short time plant in Raudal. I can't remember whether or not he was a foreigner. He was seen entering the place on CCTV with a a guy who left alone a short time later.
Either that or you can ask the girl to send you a photo of her cedula before meeting up or upon meeting up in a public place. You just got to tell her upfront that "it's for your security and if something bad happens to you while you're with her, she will be held responsible" or something along those lines. Also, letting her know that your hotel has her identification gives you leverage in worst case scenario. Now, if you mention that to her upfront and she refuses to give you her identification for whatever BS excuse that she will make up then it only means she is plotting something bad to you and you just moved on to the next one.
If she's just someone trying to make extra cash, giving her identification shouldn't be a problem right away. You can never let your guard down in Medellin especially nowadays and always got to think with the big head.
What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?I have done this exact method twice in the last few months and they ask at the gate. Sometime before boarding they will call out your name or just walk up to you if you are an obvious gringo like me and ask. This was Copa airlines.
Not necessarily. If 50 guys drugged and robbed and the number of foreign mongering visitors is 10,000 per month out of the 500,000 total visitors per month, then you are diluting the numbers by including tourist that are not bringing a strange chick to their room or not outside walking alone and therefore not being drugged and robbed.Of course they don't divide the numbers up by mongers versus non-mongers but it does seem likely that the number of foreign men seeking sex in Medellin has substantially increased in the past 5 years. That's the point of all these posts on this website complaining about the large numbers of foreign men coming to Medellin and ruining Medellin. I think it's likely that the increase in crimes against gringos is partly in due to the large increase of gringos visiting Medellin but I could be wrong.
A lot of doom and gloom around here.
I mean Medellin hasn't been a secret for a long time. The pandemic created a lot of pent-up travel demand. It will even out.
As far as crime. Well duh, you're in a country where, if uneducated, you're lucky to make $10 a day and even if educated, $20 a day is doing pretty good. I don't pay attention to a lot of the crime because frankly it can happen anywhere but obviously in a place like Colombia your awareness needs to be elevated.
Learn Spanish, take an interest in your surroundings, blend in, and don't walk around "solo" places after dark and you'll eliminate 95% of the risk. If you just come down with your "bros" for the weekend and all you do is talk to each other in English everywhere you go with your watches and phones out then of course you're going to attract negative attentioy.
I will say that although I think things haven't really changed that much, every time I go down now all I see are groups of "bros". It's not like they weren't there before, but they seem more comfortable with themselves so more and more are going at a time now. Also the number of fake ads and flaky women is ridiculously higher in Medellin than my experiences in Cartagena. Women are also less responsive on Tinder than they used to be. You'll get matches, but they won't respond. Negotiating is a necessity now too whereas it was a lot easier before. I don't think things were necessarily better in the pandemic or before but like I said I think a combination of an influx of the "bros", pent up travel demand, and global inflation is making it harder.
My experience with Avianca last month was they paged any passenger who did not check in with an agent before going through TSA. They asked for passport, check mig, and return ticket or cedula. YMMV but why chance it?I wasn't saying to chance it. I always do checkmig. I was just asking if they ask for it if you bypass the customer counter and go straight to the gate. O my last cpl entries wingo hasn't been asking for it anymore but I still have it just in case.
The question that occurs to me is whether there has also been an increase in crimes against Colombians. The annual statistics published in the local media suggests that there has been an increase. The conservative media here mirrors the model of Rupert Murdoch's USA product, fear hype and a foreign immigrant angle on any crime story.
Of course they don't divide the numbers up by mongers versus non-mongers but it does seem likely that the number of foreign men seeking sex in Medellin has substantially increased in the past 5 years. That's the point of all these posts on this website complaining about the large numbers of foreign men coming to Medellin and ruining Medellin. I think it's likely that the increase in crimes against gringos is partly in due to the large increase of gringos visiting Medellin but I could be wrong.
What hotel exactly in Centro can she be found at?? And how is she Morena, blanca, flaquita or what??For the time being I'm keeping my lips sealed on how to find her.
I bet if she brings up legalities or decides to jet there'd be a hell to pay for people back home and she'd be dissected alive if she's ever caught + the person who helped her won't survive either. Be careful with your 'monger save a ho' desires here if you're thinking (or rather feeling) in that direction. These are very bad and very resolute people you'd be dealing with with zero scruples. Even if you somehow manage to succeed initially which is highly unlikely and would require some seriously detailed advance planning you'd be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.Good advice Sir. 'Stealing' from crime organization isn't the way to go.
She's stuck. Maybe unless she'll pay some hefty penalty for cancelling the contract, buying herself out essentially, but even then, there are no guarantees, who's she going to complain to if they just take her money and keep her working.
There have been a lot of complaints about password bros and the large number of foreign tourists but you don't have to hang out in Poblado. There are other safe neighborhoods that have good bars and restaurants. Now you're not going to get working girls hanging out on the streets or at the bars But you can go to the casas or go online for sexual pleasure. I've mentioned that I've been seeing Facebook girls exclusively since coming here and I have been pleased with the experience. Attractive Facebook girls coming to my hotel and entertaining me has worked out for me. You just need to do your due diligence in finding the type of girl that you are interested in and to have an agreement on the type of activities that you want and the price that you and her can agree upon. I usually do this in the weeks before my trip and not during a trip.
Anyway, the trip is what you make it and you can still have a good time in Medellin.
3 robbers apprehended in Centro yesterday. Big rusty machete confiscated. They were trying to rob two local, 20-something, relatively well fed and tallish local chicos. Well, I assume so, but it's a safe bet since those two were the ones throwing insults with indignation at handcuffed robbers and slapping them around. Police didn't stop the slapping too much.
Time: 8:55 pm. Location: passage from Veracruz church towards Parque Berrio. There are some dark spots in there once the mall closes, occupied usually by homeless and with bunch of trash laying around, perfect spot for robbery, I'm always mindful when walking through there.
There was more police than usual in the area due to the DIM match final, that got them caught probably.
All that hanging around earned me an ID and phone IMEI check.
Later around 10 pm I saw a guy in a bar in Bombona getting his phone snatched by a drive-by lardon on a moto, while being hypnotized by the match on the TV. He went yelling and running after him, his friends jumped on their motos and gave chase, not sure if they captured him.
John Gault
12-14-23, 15:23
We all see the numbers and I also see guy's saying it is not that bad as there are so many new Mongers due to You Tube, going to MDE. Well what it is not talked about is the number of men who are robbed and attacked who do not report it to the police. Myself I have many times I was abused like that and I never once want to the police. Do you think I was the only one who did not want to waste my time dealing with Colombian justice? One example. I was robbed and suffered a cut on my hand from a knife attack. It was late at night and at the farmacy I was telling another person waiting in line that I was robbed. There was a cop standing close by. He almost ran away to aviod me.
......Learn Spanish, take an interest in your surroundings, blend in, and don't walk around "solo" places after dark and you'll eliminate 95% of the risk. .......Just being with a chica in your apartment seems to me to be greater than 5% of the risk. Medellin has become America's brothel and the chicas know it. If you are a gringo you need to grow eyes at the back of your head.
We all see the numbers and I also see guy's saying it is not that bad as there are so many new Mongers due to You Tube, going to MDE. Well what it is not talked about is the number of men who are robbed and attacked who do not report it to the police. Myself I have many times I was abused like that and I never once want to the police. Do you think I was the only one who did not want to waste my time dealing with Colombian justice? One example. I was robbed and suffered a cut on my hand from a knife attack. It was late at night and at the farmacy I was telling another person waiting in line that I was robbed. There was a cop standing close by. He almost ran away to aviod me.Relative to other popular mongering countries, Colombia is dangerous and you need to have your guard up. Clearly, criminals are targeting gringos who are looking for female companionship and if you fit that profile, you are at a greater risk of being robbed. That being said, you can take precautions and not increase your risk of being a victim of crime. If you are concerned about crime and want a vacation where you don't have to worry about girls drugging you and being robbed on the street, there are other countries where the risk is much lower such as Thailand or even Mexico. I do have friends who will never come to Colombia because they think the risk is not worth it. I personally think the risks are worth it and that is why I continue to come to Medellin.
My advice as a local resident is to be very selective about where you go after dark.
3 robbers apprehended in Centro yesterday. Big rusty machete confiscated. They were trying to rob two local, 20-something, relatively well fed and tallish local chicos. Well, I assume so, but it's a safe bet since those two were the ones throwing insults with indignation at handcuffed robbers and slapping them around. Police didn't stop the slapping too much.
Time: 8:55 pm. Location: passage from Veracruz church towards Parque Berrio. There are some dark spots in there once the mall closes, occupied usually by homeless and with bunch of trash laying around, perfect spot for robbery, I'm always mindful when walking through there.
There was more police than usual in the area due to the DIM match final, that got them caught probably.
All that hanging around earned me an ID and phone IMEI check.
Later around 10 pm I saw a guy in a bar in Bombona getting his phone snatched by a drive-by lardon on a moto, while being hypnotized by the match on the TV. He went yelling and running after him, his friends jumped on their motos and gave chase, not sure if they captured him.
Just being with a chica in your apartment seems to me to be greater than 5% of the risk. Medellin has become America's brothel and the chicas know it. If you are a gringo you need to grow eyes at the back of your head.Not for me, I don't drink or do drugs. Just do the deed "why ya. " I also like to do a little vetting beforehand.
Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? - The answer is right there in your reply.
1. visitors should avoid movistar and use claro or tigo.
2. Should use a big offcial store (LOS Molinos shopping mall in laureles).
3. do NOT leave the store till you have ensured that store has registered the imei or you have downloaded the required app or know which web site to use for self registration.
Many, like me, visit just for a week or even 2-3 days and don't get the warning or ignore it.
No one has clarified the above before, hence the problems.Do you guys not use airalo? Way easier than running around for a sim.
Is barranquilla safer and better than medellin?
DiscoverFL
12-14-23, 19:19
What if you had a digital boarding pass on your phone and we're only traveling with a carry-on, then you wouldn't even go to the Avianca customer counter you would go straight thru TSA and onto your gate, then would they ask for your checkmig in that scenario or not?Yes, what happened in my last Avianca flight in June is that at the gate they announced that if you didn't have a paper with a pen mark, you needed to talk to them. I already had it, but I did notice two guys up at the gate desk furiously filling out the mig form on their phone, so it was clear that they were asking for the mig form at the gate for those that had gone straight through security with their digital boarding pass.
Good day,
As I am circling onto my trip to Colombia, I had a question for the forum. I have been in the scene for a while, but this is my first time using seeking. I am curious to what everyone thinks is a fair price to give girl from Seeking? No all woman are that forthcoming for what they need as for support or an arrangement. What would you give a girl for a couple hours, all night, or even weekly?
Much appreciated.
Good advice Sir. 'Stealing' from crime organization isn't the way to go.
She's stuck. Maybe unless she'll pay some hefty penalty for cancelling the contract, buying herself out essentially, but even then, there are no guarantees, who's she going to complain to if they just take her money and keep her working.Or finds someone who'd agree to buy her out. I'm sure that's always a possibility. But if her handlers know that you're a foreigner the price is bound to skyrocket. Then again if you know how to bargain and cry poor and show them that you're ready to walk away or just 'not that rich' you might be able to get her for close to her market value and / or get kidnapped in the process.
In fact if you decide not to bother with bargaining and crying poor, and just accept the price it would almost guarantee you getting kidnapped IMHO.
Or finds someone who'd agree to buy her out. I'm sure that's always a possibility. But if her handlers know that you're a foreigner the price is bound to skyrocket. Then again if you know how to bargain and cry poor and show them that you're ready to walk away or just 'not that rich' you might be able to get her for close to her market value and / or get kidnapped in the process.
In fact if you decide not to bother with bargaining and crying poor, and just accept the price it would almost guarantee you getting kidnapped IMHO.The best thing he can do is just walk away. If he takes your advice and tries to "buy her out" or negotiate with any kind of human trafficking organization he is liable to get himself killed. This kind of shit isn't some fucking monopoly game, haven't you been watching the news lately? People are getting killed for much less. I'm just saying.
Is barranquilla safer and better than medellin?The whole country is generally dangerous, though some areas more than others. I've never been to Barranquilla. Been to MDE, Cartagena, Cali and Bogota and they are all dangerous. Cartagena the safest if you stay in the tourist areas.
The thing with Barranquilla is that, unlike the cities I named, there are very few foreigners. You're sort of on your own, which you may or may not like (Spanish likely a must). Also, guessing it is very hot temperature-wise (like Cartagena).
Latin America in general is dangerous. And the best countries for women -- Brasil, Colombia, and Venezuela, are among the most dangerous, the latter off-limits these days.
I'm contemplating winding down my mongering days while I'm still ahead. I've only had two close calls - one in MDE and one in Rio - over about 70 trips since the late 90s.
Is barranquilla safer and better than medellin?On past experience NOOOOOOOOO.
The whole country is generally dangerous, though some areas more than others. I've never been to Barranquilla. Been to MDE, Cartagena, Cali and Bogota and they are all dangerous. Cartagena the safest if you stay in the tourist areas.
The thing with Barranquilla is that, unlike the cities I named, there are very few foreigners. You're sort of on your own, which you may or may not like (Spanish likely a must). Also, guessing it is very hot temperature-wise (like Cartagena).
Latin America in general is dangerous. And the best countries for women -- Brasil, Colombia, and Venezuela, are among the most dangerous, the latter off-limits these days.
I'm contemplating winding down my mongering days while I'm still ahead. I've only had two close calls - one in MDE and one in Rio - over about 70 trips since the late 90s.Well, at least Shakira is from Barranquilla. And Nabil Crismatt. Plus it's just fun saying Barranquilla. I stick to BOG and MDE because I ain't into all that heat in those other cities.
FineWine69
12-15-23, 07:28
Anyone have any thoughts on this or know any details I can't pick up in the mainstream media? Seems Medellin is getting much more dangerous post covid due to Venezuelan gangs.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/14/news/us-comedian-killed-in-colombia-knew-the-woman-who-lured-him/
John Gault
12-15-23, 13:54
One in custody after murder of Twin Cities Hmong American leader Tou Ger Xiong in Colombia.
"he never, ever felt unsafe. It's almost like a second home, he loved it there," his brother said.
By Zoë Jackson December 14,2023 — 3:08 PM.
PROVIDED BY EH XIONG.
Tou Ger Xiong grew up in St. Paul and was valedictorian at Humboldt High School.
Twin Cities activist and comedian Tou Ger Xiong had a passion for travel and frequently visited Colombia for the country's culture, energy and music.
But on Wednesday, a suspect was taken into custody in Medellíand where Xiong, 50, was found dead Monday following a kidnapping for ransom, his brother said.
The well known Hmong American activist, speaker and comedian enjoyed Colombia's lively, free spirited energy and had several friends in the country, said brother Eh Xiong. He'd invited him along to Colombia in the past, and Eh almost traveled to the country with his brother this summer before work interrupted his plans.
"he never, ever felt unsafe. It's almost like a second home; he loved it there," Eh Xiong said.
The two often talked about how some areas outside the USA Could be risky for tourists, Eh Xiong said. Kidnappings of tourists are on the rise in Colombia. The USA State Department classifies the country as a level 3, which encourages Americans to "reconsider travel" due to unrest and kidnappings.
"he was aware of it," Xiong said. "But he's one of those people who only assumes the best in people. ".
Xiong was kidnapped following a date with a woman he met online, according to the Colombian newspaper El Colombiano. A group of men contacted his family demanding a $2,000 ransom — the equivalent of nearly $8 million Colombian pesos — and killed him a day later without collecting the money. His body was found Monday with multiple stab wounds and evidence of blunt force trauma, the newspaper reported.
A friend Xiong was staying with at the time of his death notified the family that an individual who took part in his capture had been taken into custody, Eh Xiong said.
Xiong was credited with shedding light on the Hmong American immigrant experience through comedy and laughter. He was a 2019 Bush Fellow.
The outpouring of support from friends, political leaders and others who say Xiong affected their lives has been a comfort to the family, and especially their mother, Eh said.
Minnesota leaders have express their condolences including Gov. Tim Walz, LT. Gov. Peggy Flanagan and St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, who said on X (formerly Twitter) that his longtime friend Xiong was one of the funniest and most sincere people he'd ever met.
"A community leader, accomplished storyteller & comedian, the first Hmong rapper, and an absolute karaoke master in any genre of music. His light enlivened everyone around him," Carter wrote.
The family is working with the State Department, Minnesota USA Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith and the embassy in Colombia. They hope to repatriate his body to the United States in the next week.
The family will hold a candlelight vigil and establish a scholarship in his name, Eh said.
Relative to other popular mongering countries, Colombia is dangerous and you need to have your guard up. Clearly, criminals are targeting gringos who are looking for female companionship and if you fit that profile, you are at a greater risk of being robbed. That being said, you can take precautions and not increase your risk of being a victim of crime. If you are concerned about crime and want a vacation where you don't have to worry about girls drugging you and being robbed on the street, there are other countries where the risk is much lower such as Thailand or even Mexico. I do have friends who will never come to Colombia because they think the risk is not worth it. I personally think the risks are worth it and that is why I continue to come to Medellin.Colombia has always been dangerous. Even before I made my first trip in early 2000's a friend of mine had gone and related his experience to me of having to jump out of a moving car to escape a kidnapping. I still visited and after about forty visits in all I have had three bad experiences, one where a chica in a casa tried to steal from my pants while I was in the shower after the deed, a chica attacked me in Botero plaza and a guy tried to grab my cell phone from my hand in Centro. Apart from having a shopping bag stolen while I took a photo in Frankfurt, Germany I have had no bad experiences in any of the forty odd other destinations I have been to.
... but this is my first time using seeking. I am curious to what everyone thinks is a fair price to give girl from Seeking? No all woman are that forthcoming for what they need as for support or an arrangement. What would you give a girl for a couple hours, all night, or even weekly?....I am not sure what you mean by "support costs". You don't live here so you should just do pay per meet. You can post picture and maybe someone can compare it to their portfolio and tell you how much that girl will cost. There is a premium on the price quoted by Seeking so you want to avoid that. If you can find similar type of girl on Facebook, you should user Facebook price as a reference. If you can find her in Centro, then you should use Centro price for reference. If you can only find the girl on Seeking, you pay according to how much you want her and how many men are bidding for her service. You should expect to pay a premium for beauty regardless but that is rare.
Or finds someone who'd agree to buy her out.
The best thing he can do is just walk away. If he takes your advice and tries to "buy her out" or negotiate with any kind of human trafficking organization he is liable to get himself killed.Definitely wasn't planning on buying her out nor negotiating with traffickers, was just wondering what her realistic options are. It's either keep working next 9 years or find herself a guy that's willing to do buy her out. Latter not totally out of the realm of possibility since people do get enamored beyond reason and make bad decisions (like marriage without prenup), but still, rather unlikely, and less likely with each passing year.
Well, she did sign some contract apparently and has the papers, so maybe there is clause in there about cancelling early and the costs / penalties for it, no idea, not sure if this contract is something that's even honored by her handlers, probably not. The only way it could be honored would be probably if a buyer is someone that is also plugged in to the crime world, having enough connections not to be pushed around.
Anyway, that is the first girl I've met that mentioned she's on 10 year contract, up until now I was always meeting independent girls, afaik at least.
People are getting killed for much less. Yeah it's crazy.
ChuchoLoco
12-15-23, 18:18
Definitely wasn't planning on buying her out nor negotiating with traffickers, was just wondering what her realistic options are. It's either keep working next 9 years or find herself a guy that's willing to do buy her out. Latter not totally out of the realm of possibility since people do get enamored beyond reason and make bad decisions (like marriage without prenup), but still, rather unlikely, and less likely with each passing year.
Well, she did sign some contract apparently and has the papers, so maybe there is clause in there about cancelling early and the costs / penalties for it, no idea, not sure if this contract is something that's even honored by her handlers, probably not. The only way it could be honored would be probably if a buyer is someone that is also plugged in to the crime world, having enough connections not to be pushed around.
Anyway, that is the first girl I've met that mentioned she's on 10 year contract, up until now I was always meeting independent girls, afaik at least.
Yeah it's crazy.Since when do human traffickers have written contracts? Seems like proof of an illegal activity. Has anyone here ever gotten paid receipts for a coke or reefer purchase? Seems like a new sad story scam.
Definitely wasn't planning on buying her out nor negotiating with traffickers, was just wondering what her realistic options are. It's either keep working next 9 years or find herself a guy that's willing to do buy her out. Latter not totally out of the realm of possibility since people do get enamored beyond reason and make bad decisions (like marriage without prenup), but still, rather unlikely, and less likely with each passing year.
Well, she did sign some contract apparently and has the papers, so maybe there is clause in there about cancelling early and the costs / penalties for it, no idea, not sure if this contract is something that's even honored by her handlers, probably not. The only way it could be honored would be probably if a buyer is someone that is also plugged in to the crime world, having enough connections not to be pushed around.
Anyway, that is the first girl I've met that mentioned she's on 10 year contract, up until now I was always meeting independent girls, afaik at least.
Yeah it's crazy.There is nothing real about this as a contract, papers or no papers. It is simply a woman being trafficked by some sort of gang. Pimping and such are illegal in Colombia and she is being controlled and trafficked by others, its as simple as that. She could try police, but it depends on how deep a connection her owners have whether this would work or not.
There is nothing real about this as a contract, papers or no papers. It is simply a woman being trafficked by some sort of gang. Pimping and such are illegal in Colombia and she is being controlled and trafficked by others, its as simple as that. She could try police, but it depends on how deep a connection her owners have whether this would work or not.The guy is not going to do anything about it because that would be silly. We don't know what the real situation is and as mongers, we should not care. We can't get involved in these types of things because they involve violent criminal elements. Don't you watch those movies where a nice guy tries to rescue a girl from her pimp and his life is destroyed? I think it's called True Romance. Also you are only hearing it from her side and it may be true or not true. It could just be an agreement between two parties in which one party does something for the other party in exchange for certain promises.
Anyone have any thoughts on this or know any details I can't pick up in the mainstream media? Seems Medellin is getting much more dangerous post covid due to Venezuelan gangs.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/14/news/us-comedian-killed-in-colombia-knew-the-woman-who-lured-him/I remember that other Asian dude got killed from a Tinder outing about a year ago. I have noticed more Asians around town. Just saw a group around CC San Diego earlier today.
Here is an update that just came out. It looks like this wasn't done by Venezuelans; it was done by the Parceros not the Panas.
Follow along.
https://youtu.be/zr8YAwf_WKQ?si=VyOZdthPj2dA3LOW
Anyone have any thoughts on this or know any details I can't pick up in the mainstream media? Seems Medellin is getting much more dangerous post covid due to Venezuelan gangs.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/14/news/us-comedian-killed-in-colombia-knew-the-woman-who-lured-him/
MaddTraveler
12-16-23, 05:45
What's good fellas. I've been in Medellin since Sept 12 and still here and rocking. I've slept with 85 women of which 95 of them are pregnant from rawdogging, had 3 operations on my dick when it almost fell off, currently engaged with 12,5 moved in my 2 bedroom apartment, including 2 of their babies, one mother, and 3 dogs, and fellas I am living the dream. Ok now that humor's out of the way here's my trip summary so far:
ARRIVAL AND LODGING: Here in fact since 9/12, and everything's been cool for the most part. I work remotely so I found a great co-working apartment that accommodates with business grade internet that doesn't go down, good speed, and able to use my own router which I must. Since then I've been researching and I notice Medellin is a great city for digital nomads obviously, where even if you stay in a hotel / airbnb with no work setup you can easily lease a professional co-working space or office around the city for a low daily / weekly rate. Not every country offers that and even here in Colombia those aren't available everywhere. As I plan to continue traveling to various countries and stay away much longer, Medellin and Bogota are definitely on top for the list for the nomad lifestyle.
TOURIST VISA UPDATE: I applied for my visa renewal after my 3 months deadline last week and was extended to 6 Months. The process was quite simple, I got a reply and approval within 2 hours of applying even though it was 2 am. I received an approval email, along with a receipt for either an online payment or at a specific local bank. Paid the fee 125 k at the bank and within minutes later I received my official Visa letter. I am thinking about applying for their digital nomad visa (it's new), and if approved it will be for up to 2 years. You will hear different info about this visa, and it's because some are approved only for 6 months, and others for up to 2 years. For fksake the valid info's on the migracion website. I mention this bc while here I've had too many arguments with dumb weekend gringos on this LOL. No need to get into extra details like you must purch an insurance policy (some of yall call it a tax LOL), costs less than 250 k pesos a year, then if you stay for longer than 6 months you may have to start paying income tax. That part got me and I wouldn't want it just for that since you must show your bank statements and income as a nomad to prove your income, and whatever tax they say you owe you may not have a choice. We know all the tax loopholes from the states, how to reduce liabilities w loss reports / deductions etc and screw the IRS, but shit might be different here. In my opinion other forms of visas like a business grade visa might be cheaper for a permanent stay vs that digital nomad visa.
SAFETY: OK, I haven't been in this forum for a couple months, and I'm not surprised that most of the recent posts have been about safety and problems here in Medellin. They are all true, and anyone especially newcomers reading should follow our advice and take extreme precautions. As a matter fact there are many many better destinations where you don't have to watch your back so much. Before you ask why I haven't left yet, well, unlike many others I'm here to work, needed a place w great weather, close to Florida, and the abundance of pussy is just a bonus. And honestly if I wasn't already set up here and working comfortably I'd prob go elsewhere. Working on some urgent projects and it's a small sacrifice to stick around a while before I travel again, and can't fucking wait to get the fuck out of here; hopefully right after the holidays.
I'm leasing an apt here in Belen near Laureles and I'm nearly invisible or in stealth mode. Only people who know me are the few restaurants / grocery stores I frequent. Otherwise I move like a Ninja. I stay the fuck away from El Poblado, I am dating a local girl, and the few Tinder dates that I had I ensured to meet them at random spots, food-courts, or give them an hourly motel address if they're a prepago and we already made a deal. I don't bring no-one to my apt that I haven't met first at someplace else and vibed.
Forget for a second what I wrote above about this city being great for remote work and living. While this may be true and they have the set up, it is also becoming very dangerous. Now here's the deal, like many others are stating, if you stay away from the WGs, Tinder, Lleras, Threesomes offers, Ask for IDs, you will be fine. Well those of us who could make this place home and navigate safely do these things. Especially if you're visiting long-term, you can easily slip up so it's wise to not let your guard down.
Even with my experiences and extreme carefulness I still encountered a couple of incidents:
A tinder date drugged my drink as I went to the bathroom. But it was a test from me when I left the drink unattended at the bar we went, and watched her put something in it. When I wanted to leave she got super aggressive and tried to force herself in my taxi. I told the driver I'm not with her and walkd out, went to another taxi and she still did the same. I did pretend to drink from the tinted shot and she thought I was fckd up when I was sober. When she continued to force herself on me, like tried to grab me, I pushed her very hard while standing outside of the taxi, and she nearly fell, that's when she realized I wasnt affected yet. I askd the taxi driver to call the police and the fucker was laughing, so I walkd back to the bar / club to get help by having them call the police, and she ran off LOL. I also didn't want to pay her own taxi for her to go home and she claimed I was responsible LOL. I laughed and told her I'd rather go to jail, aint no way I'm responsible for your fucking taxi after you tried to drug me. There's no such law in Colombia I told her, and let's see what the police say when they come. That's when she ran.
She wasn't a WG and still there were many red flags that I ignored even before meeting her. I was really bored that night and after a long week of work and I said fuck it why not. I can't dodge bullets but I have dodged many attempts and scams, which many could've been totally avoided but at the same time I don't allow fear to dictate my life. One thing I feel very lucky about is that I never get drunk, and totally drug-free. Meaning all my brain cells are intact LOL. The few events that I'm sure I completed prevented are when I ask for IDs and they refuse, date immediately cancelled; I often get threesome offers, or her friend will tag along. Like first of all I don't know you, what make you think I want to meet you and buy you dinner and drinks, and also buy your friend which I'm not interested in dinner and drinks? I would write that and cancel LOL. Basically I try my best to not think with my dick first. Like I cannot put anymore emphasis on this, these girls do get aggressive and persistent with their threesome offers. Also never meet if you barely had any conversation or they immediately want to meet for drinks. Even if I do want to go out I would say no to test their patience, and most would get mad and ignore or block you LOL. Congrats you are alive. So don't do it. Talk to your dick and tell this little guy to be patient. Interview these chicas, make video calls, ask for IDs if they look 22 and under, Or better yet learn some spanish and only meet women in person. Even El Centro is safer than Tinder.
The other minor incident that happened which is totally my fault was that I got robbed 50 k mil pesos by a taxi driver. I handed over a 20 k bill, I think he tored it up a bit and said he couldn't take it, was a very small tear you barely notice. Then I handed him a 50 k bill, he went down to his bag and swapped it with a fake 50 k bill and said he had no change. Then accepted the 20. I didn't realize till later that day he gave me back the fake 50 k bill. Later that day a local waitress friend told them to be careful at small stores also since they do give you fake changes also. I normally warn newbies on this and it happnd to me all cause I slipped. And can easily happen when your here too long. You are still living among thieves, or people making less than $10 a day, and those are the lucky ones since most are unemployed. If we keep those things in mind as soon as we step outside, we'll be fine. I'm perfectly ok and accept my fate to remain paranoid in medellin once I'm out in this shithole of a city. My life is totally worth it I think.
THE GOOD: Couple nice girls have been taking care me. Focusing mainly on one now but been w 3 gfs so far. Two semipros from SA, one decided to confess she was pretending to be a non pro and she wants to go back and fuck for money. Said had urgent money problems, I guess I wasnt giving her enough. Has child custody problem with ex-husband who has her children and put her on child support LOL. Yes that was shocker for me too. She only has the kiddos on weekend, univeristy student, 27, and would spend days at my spot, doing homework while I work. We did have a good time but I don't miss her since she was pretending not to be a WG LOL. Other SA chica was from over a year ago. Real GF treatment when she's with me, but done w her since she kept trying to get me to buy her a condo, a motorcycle. Like she's too demanding. Best pussy I prob had here but damnnnnn I aint bobo the fool. Since she has two jobs, I ask her at times when you go to work, do you get paid first before you work for one or two weeks? That would end all arguments and demands for that day. Because she would say shit like if I pay for her university, buy her a house / condo, she would stop hooking on SA, and only be loyal with me LOL. She has the delusions I should prove my love that way LOL, I think she's on hard drugs and denies that.
Sometimes I put her in her place and shame her hard to stop. Like be. Tch look, if you want to change your life, you will do it for yourself and stop selling your body, this would be YOUR choice, then maybe if I or some other guy want to be with you they will find you as a normal woman. But no one ever truly give up a habit good or bad for someone else, you will change for yourself first. Otherwise once my money run out, you'll go right back on the streets, whereas if you changed for yourself, money or not, men or not, you will keep that change. So don't play me for stupid, remember I'm older than you. We'd have these little chats, and I sometimes wonder if these women here in Colombia think Americans or Gringos in general are all stupid. Or, the real question is, are there men falling for those scams? And because of those simps they think we're all the same? Like be. Tch for real. First you do the work, then you get rewarded. First be a good girl, then receive the fancy gifts. Anything in reverse is delusional. Anyway had to let that toxic one go, even though she's fine as hell.
Continuing w a low profile, with only one regular chica that I met at a restaurant, then occasional visits in casas or trip clubs. By regular it means someone you can go watch a football game with, go dancing, invite to your place, watch netflix, spend nights, etc. I have been to El Poblado and Llera like 5 times only, and each time has been bc of buddies that come in town for a week or so. Same with El Centro, visited last weekend, Fri. / sat around 6-9. Dude and I both bagged several, couple from barra and h grill. There's always someone for everyone in Centro. I don't know how many times I write this. 8/10 chicas you see walking around Llera go to centro in the day (the street llera girls.). I always prove it to dudes and show 'them like remember her last night asking for 100 usd /400 k? She's giving it up here for 30 k /$8. Always fun when they remember you also LOL. One of them lied said she was there to buy shoes for her son LOL, and then buddy and I watched her get picked up 3 times within less than hour from her corner LOL. I guess she was embarrassed cz she tried acting all classy in El Poblado night before. I normally can tell when at the park, but this one almost fooled me, took her number at Llera then deleted it once I saw she's a 30 k WG. OG or not we always like new discoveries LOL.
I met couple fellas from my flight since Sept., one is married and living here 5 years, those dudes are cool af and they also keep a low profile and have zero safety issues. Clearly the problem of safety is mainly for men seeking fun, girls, drugs, drinks. Otherwise Medellin is still appealing and I do hope things get better although it's getting worse first. Like now we got stabbings? Something unheard of before. Or the organized set up / kidnapping of which several got arrested from some sort of ring couple weeks back.
Have fun but be careful yall. I can't wait to gtfoh and heading to SE Asia, Africa, and Europe. Trying to stay safe and normal as much as possible and out of the highlights.
TexasPistol
12-16-23, 07:26
Not necessarily. If 50 guys drugged and robbed and the number of foreign mongering visitors is 10,000 per month out of the 500,000 total visitors per month, then you are diluting the numbers by including tourist that are not bringing a strange chick to their room or not outside walking alone and therefore not being drugged and robbed.At least as far a Medellin goes, the proportion of mongers is probably higher. I have seen estimates that about 300,000 US tourists and 100,000 European tourists visit each year. I can't see any reason to visit other than sex. I don't want to insult Medellin, however there isn't any amazing art or architecture, there's no beach, no ancient historical sites. Is it worth a special visit just to see the Comuna 13 graffiti? The mountains surrounding Medellin look amazing and would be great places to go hiking and backpacking. They also look like great places to get robbed and murdered. During my recent two week visit I saw a couple of fair skinned obviously foreign young men accompanied by very attractive fair skinned girlfriends. I felt like like asking these men "Why are you here?" Maybe they want a threesome with paisa? I'm really curious.
About safety, this is my advice: Check into your hotel or airbnb. Take an Uber to and from brothels. To find them, click on this link.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-spa/
Or google Salones de Masajes Eróticos Medellin.
Or read this forum.
You'll have a great time at a reasonable cost and the chance of anything terrible happening is almost nil. You'll only be on the street to visit nearby restaurants, grocery stores, pharmacies and ATM machines and I would suggest doing that before about 9:00 am or 10:00 am if possible. Criminals are not early morning people. And as far as ATM's go, because of the robbery risk, I would use them sparingly. Almost every place I went, including the brothel and the supermarket, accepted Visa.
Since when do human traffickers have written contracts? Seems like proof of an illegal activity. Has anyone here ever gotten paid receipts for a coke or reefer purchase? Seems like a new sad story scam.Well, I get receipts every time with my reefer purchases, since it's fully legal where I live.
I don't want to insult Medellin, however there isn't any amazing art or architecture, there's no beach, no ancient historical sites. Is it worth a special visit just to see the Comuna 13 graffiti? The mountains surrounding Medellin look amazing and would be great places to go hiking and backpacking. Have to agree with you. You can pretty much do everything in Medellin in one short visit. IMO, the hiking is fun, especially when you extend it beyond Antioquia. But, the mongering scene has declined, especially with the Centro casas and strip clubs falling off. Like Sosua, CR and other places, you can still have fun, especially if you are a newbie. Roll with the punches.
...... I askd the taxi driver to call the police and the fucker was laughing......You have demonstrated the good and bad in Medellin but that taxi driver just tipped things in the wrong direction. He must have known what was happening. They're not on your side. It seems if you get yourself in difficulty here you're on your own.
DiscoverFL
12-16-23, 16:00
I don't want to insult Medellin, however there isn't any amazing art or architecture, there's no beach, no ancient historical sites. Is it worth a special visit just to see the Comuna 13 graffiti? The foodie scene (gastronomy as the locals call it) in Medellin is amazing and continuing to grow. A lot of the tourist now coming are foodies and not mongers, as word has been getting out in other cities (where branches of Medellin restaurants have won Michelin awards). It is similar to the early food-scene rise that took place in Barcelona in the past decade or two.
You have demonstrated the good and bad in Medellin but that taxi driver just tipped things in the wrong direction. He must have known what was happening. They're not on your side. It seems if you get yourself in difficulty here you're on your own.I fucking hate Colombian taxi drivers with a passion. They are all thieves and scammers and carry around a bunch of counterfeit bills which they switch with your real bills and give back to you. In may of 2022 I reported a taxi driver did this to me but I caught it and told him it wasn't my bill that he was handing back to me and I crumbled it up and threw it on the ground as I was exiting the taxi and then the fucker drove off. He didn't get me for any extra money as per his plan he just didn't give me my change back because the fare was 16 mil and I was paying with a 20 mil when he swapped it and said the bill appeared to be falso and handed it back to me.
After that incident I stopped using taxi cabs except for in very few situations where there wasn't any other options but I'm always very alert if I use a taxi and constantly thinking they are trying to still from me so I pay with small bills and even coins.
Its best to just not use taxis at all period. The best is to use public transport such as busses and the metro. As an alternative I also like to use Picap and Didi Moto. They are safe, fast, and affordable and don't carry around fake cash to steal from people.
SankarShetty
12-16-23, 16:18
This is a great report. I have sent this to ROD thread so people can use this a starting point.
What's good fellas. I've been in Medellin since Sept 12 and still here and rocking. I've slept with 85 women of which 95 of them are pregnant from rawdogging, had 3 operations on my dick when it almost fell off, currently engaged with 12,5 moved in my 2 bedroom apartment, including 2 of their babies, one mother, and 3 dogs, and fellas I am living the dream. Ok now that humor's out of the way here's my trip summary so far:
ARRIVAL AND LODGING: Here in fact since 9/12, and everything's been cool for the most part. I work remotely so I found a great co-working apartment that accommodates with business grade internet that doesn't go down, good speed, and able to use my own router which I must. Since then I've been researching and I notice Medellin is a great city for digital nomads obviously, where even if you stay in a hotel / airbnb with no work setup you can easily lease a professional co-working space or office around the city for a low daily / weekly rate. Not every country offers that and even here in Colombia those aren't available everywhere. As I plan to continue traveling to various countries and stay away much longer, Medellin and Bogota are definitely on top for the list for the nomad lifestyle..
The foodie scene (gastronomy as the locals call it) in Medellin is amazing and continuing to grow. A lot of the tourist now coming are foodies and not mongers, as word has been getting out in other cities (where branches of Medellin restaurants have won Michelin awards). It is similar to the early food-scene rise that took place in Barcelona in the past decade or two.That's interesting. I belong to a Foodie group on FB, but outside of that, just about everyone I know isn't impressed with the food. Which restaurants or dishes in Medellin are people raving about? Never heard of people coming to Medellin for the food so I'd like to hear about these amazing dishes.
TexasPistol
12-16-23, 17:05
Have to agree with you. You can pretty much do everything in Medellin in one short visit. IMO, the hiking is fun, especially when you extend it beyond Antioquia. But, the mongering scene has declined, especially with the Centro casas and strip clubs falling off.Wow that's really impressive. I was in Medellin a few weeks ago and once I stopped flailing around and found a good brothel, I was blown away. For about $65, I was getting unforgettable sex. I wish I could have seen it during the Golden Age LOL.
Wow that's really impressive. I was in Medellin a few weeks ago and once I stopped flailing around and found a good brothel, I was blown away. For about $65, I was getting unforgettable sex. I wish I could have seen it during the Golden Age LOL.What was the name of the brothal? Yes, back in the day you could go into a casa en El Centro and pick a diamond in the ruff or college student for $15 usd or less. There were even some that had 2 for 1 specials on certain days.
TexasPistol
12-16-23, 17:14
The foodie scene (gastronomy as the locals call it) in Medellin is amazing and continuing to grow. A lot of the tourist now coming are foodiesThat's pretty interesting. People actually fly down from LOS Angeles or Miami to Medellin just to check out the restaurants? Most American cities also have gourmet cuisine. But I guess whatever floats your boat.
TexasPistol
12-16-23, 17:21
What was the name of the brothal? Yes, back in the day you could go into a casa en El Centro and pick a diamond in the ruff or college student for $15 usd or less. There were even some that had 2 for 1 specials on certain days.Ángeles Spa.
Cra. 81 #42 52, Laureles. Estadio, Medellíand, Laureles, Medellíand, Antioquia Colombia apartment 202.
+57 3207376183.
https://catalogoangeles.********.com/2023/06/catalogo-de-angeles.html
I walked in and in a few minutes I picked out a 19 year old beauty who said she had just started that day and we got along very very well. However it's more than $15. Definitely prices have gone up I suppose as more mongers arrive. Supply and demand. But $65 is still so low compared to what similar talent would cost in any Western country.
ngeles Spa.
Cra. 81 #42 52, Laureles. Estadio, Medelland, Laureles, Medelland, Antioquia Colombia apartment 202.
+57 3207376183.
https://catalogoangeles.********.com/2023/06/catalogo-de-angeles.html
I walked in and in a few minutes I picked out a 19 year old beauty who said she had just started that day and we got along very very well. However it's more than $15. Definitely prices have gone up I suppose as more mongers arrive. Supply and demand. But $65 is still so low compared to what similar talent would cost in any Western country.Think I've heard of it. Casas outside of El Centro are typically more expensive. A session in El Centro might run you $65 mil or about $16 USA now.
JohnnieCash
12-16-23, 18:15
They're not on your side. It seems if you get yourself in difficulty here you're on your own.People here will watch but not get involved. Why should they risk it for a stranger?
...she kept trying to get me to buy her a condo, a motorcycle.Don't be such a cheapskate, just buy her a condo. LOL.
8/10 chicas you see walking around Llera go to centro in the day (the street llera girls.)On a related note, I had a chat over a pony malta with centro SW recently that quoted me "50 mil y todo que quieres", said she works Poblado in the evenings, had a guy pay her 200 usd for un rato recently, normally she charges 300 mil there, bragged how she had 4 gringo boyfriends sending her money (where is all that cash gone now I wondered), one renting apartment for her, another older one offering to have baby with her but was infertile so wanted to buy a sperm first (biazzare), then she showed me her FB profile with photos that look 5 x better than her in a real life, to the point I was wondering if it's even her (make up and filters are no joke) and also said she wants to go to Spain to work at some point and then offered to share some tussi with me (no thanks).
Don't be such a cheapskate, just buy her a condo. LOL.
On a related note, I had a chat over a pony malta with centro SW recently that quoted me "50 mil y todo que quieres", said she works Poblado in the evenings, had a guy pay her 200 usd for un rato recently, normally she charges 300 mil there, bragged how she had 4 gringo boyfriends sending her money (where is all that cash gone now I wondered), one renting apartment for her, another older one offering to have baby with her but was infertile so wanted to buy a sperm first (biazzare), then she showed me her FB profile with photos that look 5 x better than her in a real life, to the point I was wondering if it's even her (make up and filters are no joke) and also said she wants to go to Spain to work at some point and then offered to share some tussi with me (no thanks).I would not necessarily trust what a streetwalker in El Centro is telling me. Unless you could verify any of this information, she may just be feeding you some lies to make herself look worth the price. That you were getting a bargain by seeing her in El Centro while others are paying a lot more. I've had girls tell me a lot of things and I always take it with a grain of salt. According to all the girls, I am a hands guy who's great and can make them cum multiple times. It must be true because the girls tell me this. Jajaja.
BlueChange
12-16-23, 21:42
Here is an update that just came out. It looks like this wasn't done by Venezuelans; it was done by the Parceros not the Panas.
Follow along.
https://youtu.be/zr8YAwf_WKQ?si=VyOZdthPj2dA3LOWI try to keep this board to just reviews however. After over a decade of coming here I will say.
It's getting more dangerous as it's got to more metropolitan.
All my local friends phones getting robbed more, even breaking taxi windows to get phones.
That said, if you move like a ninja you can reduce your risk.
I actually though about carrying a dummy iPhone in case the occasional motorbike tries.
A fast one.
I have noticed, if you are Asian they seem to be targets. I can think of three or more stories in recent years of death and the tourist were all Asians.
I guess if you are Asian here, know that you have a target on your back.
They are hitting llevas (which I hardly go.
To anymore) and provenza even more it seems.
Use your spidey sense, trust your gut, have a seperate phone for bank things. Hide your electronics, have a safe doorman you know (I even gift them during the holidays, no one is getting out without me giving the ok).
Try and make friend with locals and if you.
Want to get close with real girls, do it thru real relationships building and not just a swipe right.
If you do go online, SA seems to have better quality however, don't fall for the trap and understand those girls.
Are just hookers who don't even know it yet.
Safe travels!
DiscoverFL
12-16-23, 21:49
That's pretty interesting. People actually fly down from LOS Angeles or Miami to Medellin just to check out the restaurants? Most American cities also have gourmet cuisine. But I guess whatever floats your boat.Google "medellin foodie" and you may be surprised. There's a whole culture that travels all over the world chasing eating scenes.
That's pretty interesting. People actually fly down from LOS Angeles or Miami to Medellin just to check out the restaurants? Most American cities also have gourmet cuisine. But I guess whatever floats your boat.I'm waiting to hear about some specific dishes. I've had better food in Bogota and the Coast than the Paisa cuisine. Recently, I went to a restaurant in Orlando and I kept thinking about how much better the dish tasted than the average dish I get in Antioquia.
AmorPorFavor
12-17-23, 01:53
That's pretty interesting. People actually fly down from LOS Angeles or Miami to Medellin just to check out the restaurants? Most American cities also have gourmet cuisine. But I guess whatever floats your boat.Because you can eat at good restaurants for half the price and the weather is usually better. I come for that and of course my chicas.
TexasPistol
12-17-23, 03:11
Because you can eat at good restaurants for half the price and the weather is usually better. I come for that and of course my chicas.Well, ok. If you're coming to Medellin for the food plus sex, that makes sense.
TexasPistol
12-17-23, 03:16
I have noticed, if you are Asian they seem to be targets. I can think of three or more stories in recent years of death and the tourist were all Asians.
I've noticed that also. I wonder if it's because Asians are smaller on average. Colombians are on average small people and they may believe that they can more easily control someone of smaller stature. Also regarding drugging. If they give a small person the same dose which they give to larger people, it may be fatal. However I don't think that anyone is immune to crime in Medellin. A gun is the great equalizer.
I'm waiting to hear about some specific dishes. I've had better food in Bogota and the Coast than the Paisa cuisine. Recently, I went to a restaurant in Orlando and I kept thinking about how much better the dish tasted than the average dish I get in Antioquia.Most likely it will be chicharron, mocilla, arepa, chunchuria and other similar local food. They are not exactly delicious to most foreigners.
You can go to any supermarket in Medellin, you will find that the varieties of ingredients like vegetable, spices and seasoning are extremely limited when compared to US, or Brazil. That contributes to the limited taste in their food and what is available in the restaurant
I would not necessarily trust what a streetwalker in El Centro is telling me. Unless you could verify any of this information, she may just be feeding you some lies to make herself look worth the price. That you were getting a bargain by seeing her in El Centro while others are paying a lot more. I've had girls tell me a lot of things and I always take it with a grain of salt. According to all the girls, I am a hands guy who's great and can make them cum multiple times. It must be true because the girls tell me this. Jajaja.I'm always taking whatever any stranger says with the grain of salt and what any women says with a spoonful of it, but I have no reason not to believe her, based on the photos she showed. The pricing part is nothing out of the ordinary either, that's how much they charge in Poblado and she quoted standard Centro price so no surprise here. The doscientos usd was apparently paid because they guy assumed the quote is usd not pesos. It's the rest of the personal stories she had told me (I haven't mentioned half of it, like the part she's bi now and raising her kid with a lesbian girlfriend who's been a tomboy, but now grew up her hair, wears high hills, makeup and is also a prepago) I might have potential issue with, but considering she's was pretty high on tussi, oversharing heavily and answering questions without any time to think or hesitation, it seemed to me she's telling the truth. Truth or lie, I didn't really care either way, she was a random person but I enjoyed talking and listening, it's an entertainment for me and a chance to practice Spanish. If she made all that up then I congratulate her on vivid imagination, creativity and ability to lie convincingly without incongruencies.
Most likely it will be chicharron, mocilla, arepa, chunchuria and other similar local food. They are not exactly delicious to most foreigners.
You can go to any supermarket in Medellin, you will find that the varieties of ingredients like vegetable, spices and seasoning are extremely limited when compared to US, or Brazil. That contributes to the limited taste in their food and what is available in the restaurantAnd a bowl of sancocho, can't forget that LOL.
Most likely it will be chicharron, mocilla, arepa, chunchuria and other similar local food. They are not exactly delicious to most foreigners.
You can go to any supermarket in Medellin, you will find that the varieties of ingredients like vegetable, spices and seasoning are extremely limited when compared to US, or Brazil. That contributes to the limited taste in their food and what is available in the restaurantThis is why I'm calling BS on the take that people are coming to Medellin solely for the food. As you alluded to, the food tends to be bland. Who's coming to Medellin for "chicharron, mocilla, arepa. " My GF eats that kind of food every day and I eat it when she makes it out of respect, but the food is wack (see pic).
I cook most of my meals and I will say Colombia, in general, gets credit for good quality food in terms of less pesticides and good soups, fruits, coffee and being less costly than the USA, but when you factor in the travel and lodging costs of Medellin, I can't see people solely coming here because they can go to Crepes & Waffles, Mondongos or even a steak place. The guy used Barcelona as a reference point, but I've never been blown away by the food in Spain. The food is OK, but when I think of food places, I think of spots like Thailand, Mexico, New Orleans, etc. But yeah, obviously a meal at a restaurant in Medellin will cost less than the USA.
This is why I'm calling BS on the take that people are coming to Medellin solely for the food. As you alluded to, the food tends to be bland. Who's coming to Medellin for "chicharron, mocilla, arepa. " My GF eats that kind of food every day and I eat it when she makes it out of respect, but the food is wack (see pic).
I cook most of my meals and I will say Colombia, in general, gets credit for good quality food in terms of less pesticides and good soups, fruits, coffee and being less costly than the USA, but when you factor in the travel and lodging costs of Medellin, I can't see people solely coming here because they can go to Crepes & Waffles, Mondongos or even a steak place. The guy used Barcelona as a reference point, but I've never been blown away by the food in Spain. The food is OK, but when I think of food places, I think of spots like Thailand, Mexico, New Orleans, etc. But yeah, obviously a meal at a restaurant in Medellin will cost less than the USA.Less pesticides? You're probably dreaming on that one. Colombia has the latest in agricultural technology, and most likely allows things that would no longer be allowed in the US for example.
Google "medellin foodie" and you may be surprised. There's a whole culture that travels all over the world chasing eating scenes.Never knew there were food mongers too. There is probably an IFG site with blokes discussing establishments with good quality food and good service or cheap establishments, with their own price police with dudes criticizing food mongers who pay more for certain dishes or visit high end restaurants, or probably not.
Never knew there were food mongers too. There is probably an IFG site with blokes discussing establishments with good quality food and good service or cheap establishments, with their own price police with dudes criticizing food mongers who pay more for certain dishes or visit high end restaurants, or probably not.This is a great idea. International Food Guide with dudes arguing over the cheapest and best tasting street arepas LOL.
Less pesticides? You're probably dreaming on that one. Colombia has the latest in agricultural technology, and most likely allows things that would no longer be allowed in the US for example.I think the perception is that the food has less GMO and is more organic. Certainly when I buy things like strawberries they might last 2 days, whereas they last about a week or more in the USA and still look perfect. Also, the cows here may not be corn fed. I know when I go out to the campos I usually see cows grazing. IMO, the food here taste better, but doesn't last as long as in the USA. The issue for me is that most of the food here in restaurants is mostly bland so I wind up cooking myself. You also don't have as much junk food here and can get a lot of stuff more natural like fruit juices. Everything in the USA seems prepackaged from a factory unless you only shop at a health food store.
AmorPorFavor
12-17-23, 19:34
I would not necessarily trust what a streetwalker in El Centro is telling me. Unless you could verify any of this information, she may just be feeding you some lies to make herself look worth the price. That you were getting a bargain by seeing her in El Centro while others are paying a lot more. I've had girls tell me a lot of things and I always take it with a grain of salt. According to all the girls, I am a hands guy who's great and can make them cum multiple times. It must be true because the girls tell me this. Jajaja.Absolutely. These putas lie like rugs. Never believe anything from them 100%. One of the biggest lies is "this is my first day / week".
A 32 year old American tourist from Tennessee was just found dead in his hotel room in Poblado.
https://youtu.be/CIJGdEsqTeo?si=7My9Ll4PWdeFzreD
Follow Along.
Absolutely. These putas lie like rugs. Never believe anything from them 100%. One of the biggest lies is "this is my first day / week".As long as you are not looking for a girlfriend or future wife, any lie is really irrelevant. If you find an attractive girl and you're having a good time and the amount you're paying her is agreeable to both sides, that is all that matters. Whether you're her first gringo or her 50th gringo doesn't really matter. What is she actually likes you or whether she's enjoying the time in bed with you actually doesn't matter. You will never really know whether she actually likes you or whether you actually made her cum in bed. All girls know that guys want to hear that the girl really likes him and that she came in bed and she is enjoying the time with you. This is all very important because she wants you to see her again or she may want you to give her a little bit more for some financial emergency. When a guy believes that this time is different and the girl actually likes him and enjoys being with him, he tends to be a bit more generous. The truth can be a tricky thing and most guys are not capable of discovering what is true and what is not true. But sometimes a girl slips up and then you realize that she's playing you. Part of the game, move on to the next girl.
Evelyn Henao Herrera and her accomplices busted after drugging and killing Asian tourist in Medellin.
John Gault
12-18-23, 13:42
As long as you are not looking for a girlfriend or future wife, any lie is really irrelevant. If you find an attractive girl and you're having a good time and the amount you're paying her is agreeable to both sides, that is all that matters. Whether you're her first gringo or her 50th gringo doesn't really matter. What is she actually likes you or whether she's enjoying the time in bed with you actually doesn't matter. You will never really know whether she actually likes you or whether you actually made her cum in bed. All girls know that guys want to hear that the girl really likes him and that she came in bed and she is enjoying the time with you. This is all very important because she wants you to see her again or she may want you to give her a little bit more for some financial emergency. When a guy believes that this time is different and the girl actually likes him and enjoys being with him, he tends to be a bit more generous. The truth can be a tricky thing and most guys are not capable of discovering what is true and what is not true. But sometimes a girl slips up and then you realize that she's playing you. Part of the game, move on to the next girl.I could not of said it better myself!
A 32 year old American tourist from Tennessee was just found dead in his hotel room in Poblado.
https://youtu.be/CIJGdEsqTeo?si=7My9Ll4PWdeFzreD
Follow Along.Egad!! Not again. This is too much.
DiscoverFL
12-18-23, 16:47
This is why I'm calling BS on the take that people are coming to Medellin solely for the food. As you alluded to, the food tends to be bland. Who's coming to Medellin for "chicharron, mocilla, arepa. " My GF eats that kind of food every day and I eat it when she makes it out of respect, but the food is wack (see pic).
I cook most of my meals and I will say Colombia, in general, gets credit for good quality food in terms of less pesticides and good soups, fruits, coffee and being less costly than the USA, but when you factor in the travel and lodging costs of Medellin, I can't see people solely coming here because they can go to Crepes & Waffles, Mondongos or even a steak place. The guy used Barcelona as a reference point, but I've never been blown away by the food in Spain. The food is OK, but when I think of food places, I think of spots like Thailand, Mexico, New Orleans, etc. But yeah, obviously a meal at a restaurant in Medellin will cost less than the USA.I respect your personal opinion, but you can't use it as a sole means of measuring how others will behave. Barcelona, the reference point I used, is constantly ranked as one of the top 5 food places to eat in the world. Having a substantial collection of Michelin rated restaurants and originator of the entire Molecular Gastronomy movement. A foodie tourist visiting Medellin isn't coming for Crepes & Waffles or similar. They will be coming for Carmen, El Cielo, X. O. , Oci. Mde, La Chagra, Gabo. Mde, etc. Some of these, like El Cielo, have already earned their own Michelin stars in USA Cities where they have opened branches. It seems you don't think this is legitimate travel; but it is, and it drives a large portion of the worldwide tourism to major food destinations.
This is spot on. I only ever use taxis via the ride share apps so I can pay with a credit card and so I have an audit trail.
I fucking hate Colombian taxi drivers with a passion. They are all thieves and scammers and carry around a bunch of counterfeit bills which they switch with your real bills and give back to you. In may of 2022 I reported a taxi driver did this to me but I caught it and told him it wasn't my bill that he was handing back to me and I crumbled it up and threw it on the ground as I was exiting the taxi and then the fucker drove off. He didn't get me for any extra money as per his plan he just didn't give me my change back because the fare was 16 mil and I was paying with a 20 mil when he swapped it and said the bill appeared to be falso and handed it back to me.
After that incident I stopped using taxi cabs except for in very few situations where there wasn't any other options but I'm always very alert if I use a taxi and constantly thinking they are trying to still from me so I pay with small bills and even coins.
Its best to just not use taxis at all period. The best is to use public transport such as busses and the metro. As an alternative I also like to use Picap and Didi Moto. They are safe, fast, and affordable and don't carry around fake cash to steal from people.
I agree with you. I'm guilty of the same sort of projection and I like to think I'm more self aware about it now than I was when I was younger. I no longer expect other people to have the same interests and opinions as I do.
I respect your personal opinion, but you can't use it as a sole means of measuring how others will behave. Barcelona, the reference point I used, is constantly ranked as one of the top 5 food places to eat in the world. Having a substantial collection of Michelin rated restaurants and originator of the entire Molecular Gastronomy movement. A foodie tourist visiting Medellin isn't coming for Crepes & Waffles or similar. They will be coming for Carmen, El Cielo, X. O. , Oci. Mde, La Chagra, Gabo. Mde, etc. Some of these, like El Cielo, have already earned their own Michelin stars in USA Cities where they have opened branches. It seems you don't think this is legitimate travel; but it is, and it drives a large portion of the worldwide tourism to major food destinations.
AmorPorFavor
12-18-23, 17:37
As long as you are not looking for a girlfriend or future wife, any lie is really irrelevant. If you find an attractive girl and you're having a good time and the amount you're paying her is agreeable to both sides, that is all that matters. Whether you're her first gringo or her 50th gringo doesn't really matter. What is she actually likes you or whether she's enjoying the time in bed with you actually doesn't matter. You will never really know whether she actually likes you or whether you actually made her cum in bed. All girls know that guys want to hear that the girl really likes him and that she came in bed and she is enjoying the time with you. This is all very important because she wants you to see her again or she may want you to give her a little bit more for some financial emergency. When a guy believes that this time is different and the girl actually likes him and enjoys being with him, he tends to be a bit more generous. The truth can be a tricky thing and most guys are not capable of discovering what is true and what is not true. But sometimes a girl slips up and then you realize that she's playing you. Part of the game, move on to the next girl.I only made my comment because guys constantly post something on here that some chica has told them and then a long discussion ensues about it when what she said is likely BS.
When it comes to adding data to your cell phone on your local SIM card, you can also go to the pharmacies to get data on your phone. I did not know this until my last trip. Now I have gone to two separate pharmacies and they both could do it. Gana also can do it along with probably other places. I will tell you my Gana story on this trip. I requested one week data on my cell phone and gave them 20 mil I got two mil and some change back. So I go back to my hotel room and look at the receipt and it is for 11 mil. So I thought about going back and requesting the proper change but at this point I can see the person saying I gave you the right change and you are mistaken. Now it is only seven mil or less than $2 so I'm not going to sweat about it. I recognize that it was my mistake by not looking at the receipt right away. I have limited Spanish so that is also a factor. Live and learn. 7 weeks data on Claro should be 11 mil or less than $3. Now I know. Jajaja.
This should be required learning for anyone who travels to Colombia for chicas. They do not love you, but you want them to act like they do.
Truly, we all know they're lying, if you think they're not lying, that's just another lie you're believing. Bottom line, it's ok. As I always tell the girls, I know you're acting, but please be a good actress! No dead fish, please!
When you find good actresses, they really are a gem, rare finds that you should be thankful you were lucky enough to encounter as there's so many poor ones out there!
As long as you are not looking for a girlfriend or future wife, any lie is really irrelevant. If you find an attractive girl and you're having a good time and the amount you're paying her is agreeable to both sides, that is all that matters. Whether you're her first gringo or her 50th gringo doesn't really matter. What is she actually likes you or whether she's enjoying the time in bed with you actually doesn't matter. You will never really know whether she actually likes you or whether you actually made her cum in bed. All girls know that guys want to hear that the girl really likes him and that she came in bed and she is enjoying the time with you. This is all very important because she wants you to see her again or she may want you to give her a little bit more for some financial emergency. When a guy believes that this time is different and the girl actually likes him and enjoys being with him, he tends to be a bit more generous. The truth can be a tricky thing and most guys are not capable of discovering what is true and what is not true. But sometimes a girl slips up and then you realize that she's playing you. Part of the game, move on to the next girl.
I only made my comment because guys constantly post something on here that some chica has told them and then a long discussion ensues about it when what she said is likely BS.Colombia is no different from other countries where guys go to monger. Girls will tell you what you want to hear and say things that make them look more desirable or sympathetic. There are very few ways to check their stories but when guys spend more time with these girls, they start to believe them because they want to believe them. That this girl is different, that this girl really likes you, that this girl is worthy of being saved, that she feels differently about you and that she is really enjoying her time with you more so than with other guys or that you are the only one that she is seeing.
This is not to say that it could not be true. This is more to say that more likely than not it is not true or not completely true. But believing these stories makes the guy feel better about himself and it does stroke his ego. So there is some incentive to believe the girl.
I'm not here to say other mongers. Believe what you want to believe. As an experienced monger, I'm just more cynical now due to past disappointments.
Yes, all the places you mentioned, and supermarkets, tiendas del barrio, carrier websites and apps, vendor carts, pretty much anywhere and everywhere.
When it comes to adding data to your cell phone on your local SIM card, you can also go to the pharmacies to get data on your phone. I did not know this until my last trip. Now I have gone to two separate pharmacies and they both could do it. Gana also can do it along with probably other places. I will tell you my Gana story on this trip. I requested one week data on my cell phone and gave them 20 mil I got two mil and some change back. So I go back to my hotel room and look at the receipt and it is for 11 mil. So I thought about going back and requesting the proper change but at this point I can see the person saying I gave you the right change and you are mistaken. Now it is only seven mil or less than $2 so I'm not going to sweat about it. I recognize that it was my mistake by not looking at the receipt right away. I have limited Spanish so that is also a factor. Live and learn. 7 weeks data on Claro should be 11 mil or less than $3. Now I know. Jajaja.
7 weeks data on Claro should be 11 mil or less than $3. Now I know. Jajaja.I think you meant to write 7 days, instead of weeks, but most people should see the mistake. Also, 30 days of data is 31 mil, or 41 mil depending on how many gb of data you want.
ElSexoChino7
12-18-23, 22:46
When it comes to adding data to your cell phone on your local SIM card, you can also go to the pharmacies to get data on your phone. I did not know this until my last trip. Now I have gone to two separate pharmacies and they both could do it. Gana also can do it along with probably other places. I will tell you my Gana story on this trip. I requested one week data on my cell phone and gave them 20 mil I got two mil and some change back. So I go back to my hotel room and look at the receipt and it is for 11 mil. So I thought about going back and requesting the proper change but at this point I can see the person saying I gave you the right change and you are mistaken. Now it is only seven mil or less than $2 so I'm not going to sweat about it. I recognize that it was my mistake by not looking at the receipt right away. I have limited Spanish so that is also a factor. Live and learn. 7 weeks data on Claro should be 11 mil or less than $3. Now I know. Jajaja.You can also put data on your claro phone online using Western Union app / Western Union website. I also found out about this on my recent trip. It gives you options how much data you can put and you'll get your data almost right away. Very convenient and you don't even have to leave your hotel or Airbnb.
I think you meant to write 7 days, instead of weeks, but most people should see the mistake. Also, 30 days of data is 31 mil, or 41 mil depending on how many gb of data you want.Yes I meant 7 days. This website is not worthy of proofreading. Jajaja.
Lucky Nuts
12-19-23, 01:01
When it comes to adding data to your cell phone on your local SIM card, you can also go to the pharmacies to get data on your phone. I did not know this until my last trip. Now I have gone to two separate pharmacies and they both could do it. Gana also can do it along with probably other places. I will tell you my Gana story on this trip. I requested one week data on my cell phone and gave them 20 mil I got two mil and some change back. So I go back to my hotel room and look at the receipt and it is for 11 mil. So I thought about going back and requesting the proper change but at this point I can see the person saying I gave you the right change and you are mistaken. Now it is only seven mil or less than $2 so I'm not going to sweat about it. I recognize that it was my mistake by not looking at the receipt right away. I have limited Spanish so that is also a factor. Live and learn. 7 weeks data on Claro should be 11 mil or less than $3. Now I know. Jajaja.A convenient resource for guys coming and going often is Ding.com to recharge. I always recharge my Tigo SIM card $5.73 the day I'm on my way to Medellin. When I land and turn on my Medellin phone it's alive with 4 Gig of data and 7+ days of usage. I don't understand how it works that way without me even selecting a plan but I'm glad it does. And it appears to add 15 mil pesos to my balance (saldo disponible) on top of that to buy additonal weeks on longer trips or phone calls to the USA. Ding works with many different phone companies including Cuba SIM cards that I've had in the past. Yeah you pay a small service fee with each transaction (included in the $5. 73 here) but it's well worth the convenience for me.
Google "medellin foodie" and you may be surprised. There's a whole culture that travels all over the world chasing eating scenes.Based on your prior post, it seems to imply that if you google, then you will find these restaurants mentioned in majority of the search result. Right?
... They will be coming for Carmen, El Cielo, X. O. , Oci. Mde, La Chagra, Gabo. Mde, etc. Some of these, like El Cielo, have already earned their own Michelin stars in USA Cities where they have opened branches...
Using your reasoning, I think Bogot is a much better destination because it has 100 times more Michelin star restaurants.
I have been to some of these restaurants. I don't remember what I ate exactly. I took my Colombian friends to one and they were stunned at the price when they peaked at the receipt. Some of the restaurants only open limited nights. As a result, I think they are overpriced, relatively speaking. There is another one on the news because they could not afford the rent increase but the news did not mentioned they don't open every day and is only for dinner. What does that imply?
John Gault
12-19-23, 01:19
A Colombian woman has been accused of murder after her American Tinder date died after meeting her in the city of Medellin.
Paul Nguyen, a California-based logistics consultant, decided to visit the popular tourist spot for its vibrant nightlife and a reputation for being friendly to 'digital nomad' workers.
The 27-year-old murder victim travelled there in November with a friend with the intention of sightseeing, experiencing the nightlife, and going to a Bad Bunny concert later that week.
While he there, he matched with a woman on Tinder and agreed to meet her at a bar in the bougie neighbourhood of El Poblado.
Nguyen shot a candid photo of his date when she wasn't looking. The young, slim, brown-haired woman was wearing a white jacket and dark jeans.
He shared it with friends on Snapchat, writing 'the language barrier is unreal. '.
Paul snapped a photo of his date. Credit: Snapchat / Paul Nguyen.
Paul snapped a photo of his date. Credit: Snapchat / Paul Nguyen.
Tragically this was the last time they heard from Nguyen and the next morning his body was found next to a dumpster in another neighbourhood just over five miles away on November 10.
His wallet and phone had been stolen and it was believed that he was the victim of a botched drugging during a wave of Tinder honeytrap robberies in Colombia.
Colombian police announced the arrest of the woman Evelyn Henao Herrera, 21, on Tuesday (April 4).
Herrera and another man, seeésar Augusto Mendoza López, 28, were charged with aggravated homicide, qualified and aggravated robbery and conspiracy to commit a crime for the purpose of robbery.
A second man, Bryan Taborda Herrera, 25, was charged with qualified and aggravated robbery and conspiracy to commit a crime for the purpose of robbery.
Scams involving dating apps are common in Latin America and focus on foreigners and wealthy locals, luring the men to meet women via dating apps, and then drugging them for days at a time as their bank accounts are emptied.
"We mourn every day and continue to do so until justice is met," Paul Nguyen's sister Amy told Vice.
"Hearing that we might finally get justice for Paul flickers a new hope. ".
The three have been arrested. Credit: Columbian police.
The three have been arrested. Credit: Columbian police.
Nguyen's friend was concerned and contacted his family when he failed to return to their Airbnb and they noticed that his credit card recorded several odd late-night transactions.
It's believed that Nguyen was drugged with a sedative called clonazepam at some point during his date.
"Sometimes the victim does not lose consciousness, does not lose will, begins to become aware of what is happening, so they go on to administer much more drugs," explained Jorge Wilson, a local private investigator who has been investigating the American's death.
At least 41 people have been victims of similar drug-related robberies in Medellin in 2023, according to Colombian news outlet Caracol Noticias, although it's unclear how many were related to dating apps.
Tinder have released a statement. Credit: Alamy.
Tinder have released a statement. Credit: Alamy.
Tinder said in a statement to Vice: "Tinder prioritizes the safety of our members.
"What's been reported is terrible, and our thoughts are with the loved ones of the victims, as well as with the survivors.
"Tinder stands ready to cooperate with local law enforcement to support their investigations. ".
hey will be coming for Carmen, El Cielo, X. O. , Oci. Mde, La Chagra, Gabo. Mde, etc. Some of these, like El Cielo, have already earned their own Michelin stars in USA Cities where they have opened branches. It seems you don't think this is legitimate travel; but it is, and it drives a large portion of the worldwide tourism to major food destinations.Thanks. I was waiting for you to drop some names of spots that people would travel to Medellin for. While I still find it hard to believe that people would dish out the airfare and lodging in Medellin solely to visit the places you named, I have to visit these spots to give them a fair assessment.
Here's an update on the 32 year old American from Tennessee who was found dead in his hotel room in Poblado two days ago.
https://youtu.be/jfhVuGzbMzE?si=w1LcihP7B5dNEThu
Follow Along.
Bogota is hands down a eutter gastronomic destination than Medellin, in terms of variety, quality and quantity. That said, Medellin has more than enough high quality options for a two to three week vacation.
Based on your prior post, it seems to imply that if you google, then you will find these restaurants mentioned in majority of the search result. Right?
This should be required learning for anyone who travels to Colombia for chicas. They do not love you, but you want them to act like they do.
Truly, we all know they're lying, if you think they're not lying, that's just another lie you're believing. Bottom line, it's ok. As I always tell the girls, I know you're acting, but please be a good actress! No dead fish, please!
When you find good actresses, they really are a gem, rare finds that you should be thankful you were lucky enough to encounter as there's so many poor ones out there!I feel exactly the same way. If she acts like she likes you, that she's enjoying the sex, that she enjoys being with you and is always excited to see you and wants to see you again, Even if she is acting and lying, there's nothing to complain about. Enjoy the act and have fun with her. The only harm comes if you were planning something more with her. Otherwise, it is all good fun and you should go along with the ride.
JohnnieCash
12-19-23, 15:40
If she behaves like she likes you then she does like you. What other proof do you guys want, words or notarized contacts? Assurances it will always be so? Not going to happen, hooker or not. Promises that she likes you best or doesn't like someone else too? Don't be needy.
If she behaves like she likes you then she does like you. What other proof do you guys want, words or notarized contacts? Assurances it will always be so? Not going to happen, hooker or not. Promises that she likes you best or doesn't like someone else too? Don't be needy.If she behaves like she likes you, it doesn't mean she actually likes you. It could mean that she is putting on an act so that she could earn some money again if you see her again. Now I would say It actually doesn't matter if you are happy with her performance and she is happy to earn money with you. I had a friend when I was in Mexico that was seeing this girl at the agency and he thought she was falling in love with him and enjoying the time with him. I had introduced him to the agency. Subsequently the agency told me that they prefer that he take his business elsewhere and that the girl despised being with him because she felt he was rude and rough with her. But when she was with him, she acted as if she liked him and cumming with him during sex. Girls can easily for you because guys want to believe it.
If you're filling out to checkmig form, and it just won't work or you keep getting an error message, sometimes you're not doing anything wrong. Often it is because you filled out one of the blanks wrong. But on a few occasions including on this trip, what I'm filling out the form on my phone and doing everything right, I get an error message saying my flight number is wrong. I was using the Google Chrome browser and I kept getting that error message. So I switched to Firefox and everything worked. Now twice they got the airline wrong when I filled out the flight number but that seems to be okay. As long as you get the confirmation, it doesn't matter. Others say if you're on the phone, switch to the computer or vice versa. Now I would add switch browsers if you're running into some glitch. One glitch is a drop down menu, that is just gray and has no selection. So if you're running into a problem, try switching internet browsers and it may help.
I was getting frustrated for a while but eventually it worked. Just one of those things.
TexasPistol
12-20-23, 07:14
If she behaves like she likes you then she does like you.I agree and this iconic scene from Full Metal Jacket says it all.
https://youtu.be/md_WfmSYAuQ?si=_7Ldcop8SESZ9uK6
However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.
I agree and this iconic scene from Full Metal Jacket says it all.
https://youtu.be/md_WfmSYAuQ?si=_7Ldcop8SESZ9uK6
However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.I agree with you 100. How hard is it to fall in "love" with Leonardo DiCaprio or bezos or Eddie Murphy. They have homes all over and yachts. It's all fake. If a girl isn't attractive I'm not interested, if I'm broke they aren't interested.
JohnnieCash
12-20-23, 15:11
However the fact is every relationship is transactional if we are going to be honest. Any woman I have ever been with, would she have been with me if I didn't look a certain way, earn a certain amount, have a certain level of social status, etc? And would I have have been with her if not for her youth, beauty, the impression that she made on me and my friends? Maybe I am cynic however most relationships are very shallow as you realize once it ends. Every relationship is what it is.And what is the problem? That is life. Relationship is almost by definition a transaction, a flow of 'give and take' and 'transactional relationship' is like repeating the same thing twice. Doesn't mean there can't be fun, attachment and emotions / feelings involved. And it can be symbiotic, it can be parasitic, and many other variations.
Many men seem to have a lot of romantic and abstract ideas about relationships (more than women in fact), 'forever together', hundreds of 'she should' s, get infatuated and think they are in love after a week, or many looking for a mother substitute.
If she behaves like she likes you, it doesn't mean she actually likes you. It could mean that she is putting on an act so that she could earn some money again if you see her again. Now I would say It actually doesn't matter if you are happy with her performance and she is happy to earn money with you. I had a friend when I was in Mexico that was seeing this girl at the agency and he thought she was falling in love with him and enjoying the time with him. I had introduced him to the agency. Subsequently the agency told me that they prefer that he take his business elsewhere and that the girl despised being with him because she felt he was rude and rough with her. But when she was with him, she acted as if she liked him and cumming with him during sex. Girls can easily for you because guys want to believe it.I wasn't talking just about behavior during sex or a paid session. If a chica gives me great sex but then ignores me outside of that or doesn't want to hang out then it's obvious. I mean it's not a rocket science, but seems like he put no effort in finding out. If the guy paid the agency to fuck her, she came and gave him great time and he deducted she must be really into him just based on that then it's on him.
Lots of 'she said' 'they said 'in the story, but anyway, by telling her boss she doesn't want to see him she didn't behave in a way that says she likes him then.
He could've also taken a bold step and just ask as simple question. Hey, do you want to spend some time after work together or do you prefer we see each other just through agency? Done. But he was probably afraid because the answer would've put his constructed fantasy at the instant risk of disappearing.
Then if she'd say yes, test her actual behavior outside of her work setting and in different circumstances to validate whether it matches the words and verify mutual compatibility. And stop paying per hour (I'm not saying not pay for shit, it's Latin America). Yes it requires some thought, time and effort but building / negotiating a relationship does.
(Why would anyone even try put themselves through the ordeal of trying to build something with a professional WG is another story).
Only way the to know for certain how she 'really' feels would be to be her (then you'd see half of the time she doesn't even know herself), which is obviously not going to happen. Next best thing is to watch and test the actual behavior over extended period of time (but honestly it doesn't take that much to figure it out).
If she 'puts on an act' consistently over extended period of time and different circumstances, when tired, when drunk, when emotional, then it's no act but a reality.
TexasPistol
12-21-23, 06:30
And what is the problem? That is life. Relationship is almost by definition a transaction, a flow of 'give and take' and 'transactional relationship' is like repeating the same thing twice. Doesn't mean there can't be fun, attachment and emotions / feelings involved. And it can be symbiotic, it can be parasitic, and many other variations.I definitely agree. I think in a sex work it's just more explicit and clear cut what each side wants. That can be a good thing and each side can still like and respect the other. My relationship with the server at the local restaurant is completely clear cut, limited to a certain time and place and transactional and we can still like and respect each other.
In my life experience the parent / child relationship goes a bit beyond that. There can be a very strong bond without it being based on too many conditions or a quid pro quo. It's about sharing genetics and sharing so many major life experiences and that creates a strong emotional bond.
On a related note, I had a chat over a pony malta with centro SW recently that quoted me "50 mil y todo que quieres", said she works Poblado in the evenings, had a guy pay her 200 usd for un rato recently, normally she charges 300 mil there, bragged how she had 4 gringo boyfriends sending her money (where is all that cash gone now I wondered), one renting apartment for her, another older one offering to have baby with her but was infertile so wanted to buy a sperm first (biazzare), then she showed me her FB profile with photos that look 5 x better than her in a real life, to the point I was wondering if it's even her (make up and filters are no joke) and also said she wants to go to Spain to work at some point and then offered to share some tussi with me (no thanks).I have a bridge to sell you if you think she was telling you the truth. I know colombiana putas aren't the brightest tool in the shed, but no one who is already pulling that kind of bread elsewhere would go hooking for 13 usd "todo que quieres". I'm sure that's what she told you, but something ain't adding up. What's more likely is she's hard up for money without a steady source of income and she's unable / unwilling to find gainful employment so she sells her body in the streets for local market value, possibly to support a baby daddy and / or drug addiction.
8/10 chicas you see walking around Llera go to centro in the day (the street llera girls.)I'm going to have to press 'X' to doubt dawg. Unless things have changed drastically in the past 6 months, I've been to the plaza enough times to extrapolate that between all the strung-out, overweight, underweight, too old, too young, and unwashed prepago masses that (granted while lleras isn't light years better) there is still a significant quality difference in term of general looks and hygiene between the two areas. Is it worth the price difference? Debateable. But I would say maybe only 2 or 3 /10 of the uglier chicas you see walking around lleras go to centro in the day. The prettier ones feel just as leery at the prospect of having to venture and be seen in centro as any person not blinded by drugs or lust. Most sane people, both foreign and domestic, just try to finish whatever business they needed to get done in centro as quickly as possible without getting mugged or worse. The only people who go to botero to hangout are johns and hookers (and oblivious tourists), everyone else there is either trying to sell or take something from the people passing through.
Mr Enternational
12-21-23, 13:24
I definitely agree. I think in a sex work it's just more explicit and clear cut what each side wants. That can be a good thing and each side can still like and respect the other. My relationship with the server at the local restaurant is completely clear cut, limited to a certain time and place and transactional and we can still like and respect each other.Mfs that are used to getting pussy and having normal girlfriends are not worried about whether a hooker really likes them. Some people need to feel needed and if a hooker gives good service to a customer then they wonder if she could be the one. It is only because she opened her legs. Nobody is wondering whether the server at the restaurant is the one. She gave good service too, but did not open her legs. Get some pussy other than that you have to pay for and this will no longer be a concern, because then you know whether someone really likes you or not.
In my life experience the parent / child relationship goes a bit beyond that. There can be a very strong bond without it being based on too many conditions or a quid pro quo. It's about sharing genetics and sharing so many major life experiences and that creates a strong emotional bond.Bullshit. You are only bonded because you see them everyday. It has nothing to do with genetics. I have a shitload of cousins that have the same genetics as me, but I am closer to the ones that I was around more often. They were all at my birthday parties and me at theirs, but only sharing those major life experiences had nothing to do with nothing. No kid or parent feels any strong bond when the kid did not grow up around the parent.
Humans are weird creatures. Millions of people crying when Michael Jackson and John Lennon died even though they did not know them from a can of paint. But they heard their music and saw them dance on TV all the time so somehow they "felt" an emotional bond. Nobody cried when Alvin Ailey died because they did not see him dancing on TV everyday.
Mfs that are used to getting pussy and having normal girlfriends are not worried about whether a hooker really likes them. Some people need to feel needed and if a hooker gives good service to a customer then they wonder if she could be the one. It is only because she opened her legs. Nobody is wondering whether the server at the restaurant is the one. She gave good service too, but did not open her legs. Get some pussy other than that you have to pay for and this will no longer be a concern, because then you know whether someone really likes you or not.....I have been seeing this girl too frequently that someone is worrying about me. I asked her this week if she knew my name. She said "No", haha. The sex was mechanical so it was not as great as it could be. I know her well enough by now, so I know she is just doing her job. The last time we met is the same as the first time we met. I would say she does her job well. It is not because she provides great sex but she did it to her own standard on what her job is, like always on time, never ask for things, and doesn't rush.
I repeat with her because the happiness and euphoria after sex can last for hours until the next day. The reason is because I am very into her, or you can say I am in love (but she is not in love with me). LOL. She is slender with great personal style. She can dress like a hooker, but I feel she is more like a model then a hooker. That is part of the attraction.
I see another girl who is probably the hottest in my book. This one feels like a girlfriend and she is very good in bed. She would send me list of pictures and have me pick a style that she would come with. She does not know how things work yet. But even that, I am already paying her a large premium over the others. I messaged the "don't know my name girl" after sex to set up a date, and I had erection after receiving a reply from the "don't know my name girl". I learned that I could go again much faster under the right condition. LOL. The problem with this girl is she is too comfortable in my place so she exhibits some boyish behaviors and those kind of stuck in my mind to make her less attractive. The other day I found a piece of toilet paper with shit in the trash can is one example. LOL. So despite being hottest, and provides good service but I don't get the same euphoria feeling I have with "don't know my name girl".
She (don't know how things work girl) flacked a few times. She would tell me she was preparing then after 1 hour she would tell me she wanted to be with her family doing things, or be late because she was watching movie and wanted to come after she was 2 hours late when movie ended. I put up with it because she is hot in my book and is rare. I don't contact her after she flacked, and she will eventually contact me and be ready and on time. Waiting does not bother me that much because I always have something to do. I have always been able to get another late at night when girls flacked.
Good day all.
Today is was my first day in Medellin. I'm a solo traveler, and fairly experienced when in comes to new cities and countries. Before arriving in Medellin I consumed this forum and YouTube, trying to make sure I didn't go to wild.
I'll start by giving other first timers tips that worked for me. Firstly, spend the first day / night getting the lay of the land. Absorb the atmosphere of the city, as it's quite intoxicating. Secondly, find yourself a good driver, now just Uber. They will look out for you.
As for what I learned about the girls. Yes, Park Lleras is more 'dangerous' compared to other locals. It's well know in the community. Still worth checking out, it's very cool. I don't have any prices ect.
After that, I went to LA Isla Club, definelty worth the visit. Yes, it's a bit more expensive. I bough a half bottle, and did the math, I spent less on that then I would for drinks on myself. Also, it's a great ice breaker, and you won't be buying any girly drinks. For prices, girls wanted 250-300 $ USD for an all night back at your casa, which I found to be to expensive.
I then checked out the after hours at Luna Lunera, a little pricey to get in the door but there girls only wants $100 for a return to your casa for the night.
As for that, I'll head to bed now, cheers.
JohnnieCash
12-22-23, 15:40
for an all night back at your casa
for a return to your casa for the nightSolo first timers would be best advised to session onsite instead of bringing girls back home. Or to love hotel if you must. Besides reducing the serious risks it will allow you to test the service first before committing time and money (many duds and false advertising in there).
Park Lleras is more 'dangerous' compared to other locals. It's well know in the community. I don't have any prices ect.It's about 200-300 mil COP. Again, not advised to bring them home.
Hopefully you've done hour homework about all the drugging / stabbing / kidnapping / robbery and mitigating the risks.
Good luck.
Gary Groundwork
12-22-23, 20:21
Medellin has been destroyed by gringos.
Caretegena could be worse.
They even play homeboy music in the clubs now.
I'm looking for hotel recommendations in Medellin. I am looking at hotels that are close to strip clubs / massage parlors / escort hotspots. I don't have much time and I'd look to avoid travel as much as possible. If there are hotels that anyone can recommend (or recommend to avoid) that would put me in the a good spot to walk out the door and into opportunities I would really appreciate it. Trying to maximize my time if that makes sense.
I'm looking for hotel recommendations in Medellin. I am looking at hotels that are close to strip clubs / massage parlors / escort hotspots. I don't have much time and I'd look to avoid travel as much as possible. If there are hotels that anyone can recommend (or recommend to avoid) that would put me in the a good spot to walk out the door and into opportunities I would really appreciate it. Trying to maximize my time if that makes sense.If you're trying to maximize your time in strip clubs, Casa's and Centro SW's and stay within a tight budget the main hotel stayed at is the Nutibara. https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-nutibara-medellin/booking? Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. And if you like the high end strip clubs you most likely will have to take a cab to get to them no matter where you stay. I usually take a cab or the train to Poblado when I stay in the nutibara hotel and get normal food in the malls when I visiting on short stays. To me that’s the best option when you want maximize time for what you or basically anybody comes for.
John Gault
12-23-23, 14:23
If you're trying to maximize your time in strip clubs, Casa's and Centro SW's and stay within a tight budget the main hotel stayed at is the Nutibara. https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-nutibara-medellin/booking? Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. And if you like the high end strip clubs you most likely will have to take a cab to get to them no matter where you stay. I usually take a cab or the train to Poblado when I stay in the nutibara hotel and get normal food in the malls when I visiting on short stays. To me thats the best option when you want maximize time for what you or basically anybody comes for.A great choice if you want to partake of the delights in Centro. A bonus is it is girl friendly up to 6 PM.
The other day I found a piece of toilet paper with shit in the trash can is one example. LOL. So despite being hottest, and provides good service but I don't get the same euphoria feeling I have with "don't know my name girl".Actually in Latin America, you are supposed to put your used toilet paper in the trash can because they use smaller diameter pvc pipes for the drains and it can't handle flushing the toilet paper down the pipes without getting clogged up alot easier than with the larger pipes used in the US.
This is why you often see small trash cans next to toilets anywhere in Latin America and you may see signs telling you not to throw toilet paper in the toilet "no arrojar papel en el inodoro / sanitario. ".
MaddTraveler
12-23-23, 19:48
About a Month ago or so two buds and I went to Eros Spa in Laureles and we saw yellow tapes at the door with a policia notice that the facility was closed. Then about two-three weeks ago pretty much right away I noticed there's a new Eros Spa in Belen, walking distance to my apt and I finally visited today. I referrd someone there already and he did enjoy it.
The new location is not 24 hrs, they open at 12 p and close at 4 am. Full schedule and address is updated on Google Map: Avenida 80 # 30 a-20 (right on intersection on CL 30 a and av 80).
Black double glass door, doorbell on small door on right and someone will open. Today around 1 P about 6 chicas, normally there are more but I expected most to be out due to the holidays. Average 5-7, I picked Sofia, tats, 6. 5/7, she smiled at me at the lineup so I knew she'd be cool. 70 K, 1 nut. Room was very clean, cleaner and nicer than new life LOL. Attitude was sweet, she askd if should use condom for BJ I said yes, I assumed I could've paid for upgrade, missionary and OMG she was tight, one of the best and sweetest pussy in a casa so far. Sweet moans, then doggy and I couldn't last more than 5 minutes but pounded her nice little body hard while she grabbed and liked it. Tippd 10 k and she was happy and kissed me twice before I left.
Pleasant new little spot, the chicas are all girl next door types and all seemed cool, FYI.
Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. El Centro hoes charge 40 mil COP ($10 usd) they're not overpriced.
I totally agree with you. I went twice this year in Medellin. And I was in Hotel Nutiraba. The hotel is cheap which is good in El Centro but it's a very old hotel. But rooms are big and OK. We sleep good but it's not a great hotel. Most a 2* hotel. The breakfast isn't great, it's not a great buffet but for the price of the hotel it's ok!
You can bring girls without any problem during the day till 6 pm. After you have to stay with the same girl! You can't bring more than 1 girl after 6 pm. The staff in the hotel is nice and the guy for the security is very nice too. I remember last time during the brekfast, I saw 2 american men with a nice sexy colombian lady who was 18. She was a pro, she smiled to me when I was on my table during the breakfast but I couldn't speak with her because of her 2 american customers. I was totally obsessed by her and I did 2 pictures very quicky when she was with the american and first time of my life I went after my breakfast meet the security boy at the entrance of the hotel and I was totally direct with him. I told him that I know she s a pro. Of course he knew that too. And I asked him if he can help me to give me the contact of this girl! At the beginning he told me NO, he can't give me the informations of the customers who stay there in hte hotel but then I told him I'm ready to give him a big tip. Then he told me he could do nothing. Then I told him if he changed mind he can take my phone number and give it to her when he ll see her. Then I left the hotel for few hours and when I come back at the beginning of the afternoon in the hotel he came to me, and he gave me her whasapp! I was very happy. He asked me to not say to the girl that he gave me her whasapp. Then to say thans to him, I gave him 30 000 pesos and he was very happy.
Then I sent her message on whasapp, I explained her I wanted to spend nice time with her. In 2 minutes she answered me and told me that she was back in her home and she could meet me in my hotel but she was scare to meet the 2 american guys because she has to go with them to San Andres the next day. But I told her to call me when she arrives my hotel. She was really scared so she told me she can only stay with me short time in my room and then she must go see the 2 american men in their room. She asked me 300 mil pesos and it was great time! She went to my room, and she was very happy to meet me, she felt very good with me and stayed with me in my room for more than 3 hours. At the beginning she asked me if I ve some condoms but I say NO that I forgot to buy them. Then she asked me 100 mil pesos more to fuck her bareback and of course she was so sexy that I said YES! We fuck during more than 2 hours, it was great time and she told me she liked me. I wanted she sleeps with me all night but she told me she couldn't because the 2 american men were waiting for her and pay her 1 million pesos everyday to stay with her!
It was great time, and the next day early in the morning I saw her again at the breakfast with the 2 american men and she totally ignore me! LOL.
Then during the day near the hotel in plaza botero, I found nice sexy ladies during the day who came my room during the day for 50 000/100 000 pesos. And in the night I paid more with girls from Facebook I bring to my hotel Nutibara.
Girs don't care about the hotel, the just want the money! So it's not important to pay a big hotel in El Poblado. Girls just want your money thjat's all!
Just reat them good, be respectful with them and they will follow you everywhere you want.
If you're trying to maximize your time in strip clubs, Casa's and Centro SW's and stay within a tight budget the main hotel stayed at is the Nutibara. https://www.guestreservations.com/hotel-nutibara-medellin/booking? Depending on your taste and budget of course. If you don't care how much you spend and your loaded I guess you could stay in Poblado, but your limited to Parque lleras, to the ridiculously priced Gustos, and the over priced el Centro ho's. And if you like the high end strip clubs you most likely will have to take a cab to get to them no matter where you stay. I usually take a cab or the train to Poblado when I stay in the nutibara hotel and get normal food in the malls when I visiting on short stays. To me thats the best option when you want maximize time for what you or basically anybody comes for.
A bonus is it is girl friendly up to 6 PM.Is it free before 6 pm. They tried to charge me and it was a few minutes passed 6 pm. Needless to say I never bothered and got rid of the girl.
Is it free before 6 pm. They tried to charge me and it was a few minutes passed 6 pm. Needless to say I never bothered and got rid of the girl.Well, that answers my question on if the place is girl friendly. I'm staying there during my trip but I don't think I'll be taking any ladies to my room, especially with all killings lately, got to keep my safe spot safe.
Going to probably check out the short stays and casas while I'm down there.
Good day all.
Today is was my first day in Medellin. I'm a solo traveler, and fairly experienced when in comes to new cities and countries. Before arriving in Medellin I consumed this forum and YouTube, trying to make sure I didn't go to wild.
I'll start by giving other first timers tips that worked for me. Firstly, spend the first day / night getting the lay of the land. Absorb the atmosphere of the city, as it's quite intoxicating. Secondly, find yourself a good driver, now just Uber. They will look out for you.
As for what I learned about the girls. Yes, Park Lleras is more 'dangerous' compared to other locals. It's well know in the community. Still worth checking out, it's very cool. I don't have any prices ect.
After that, I went to LA Isla Club, definelty worth the visit. Yes, it's a bit more expensive. I bough a half bottle, and did the math, I spent less on that then I would for drinks on myself. Also, it's a great ice breaker, and you won't be buying any girly drinks. For prices, girls wanted 250-300 $ USD for an all night back at your casa, which I found to be to expensive.
I then checked out the after hours at Luna Lunera, a little pricey to get in the door but there girls only wants $100 for a return to your casa for the night.
As for that, I'll head to bed now, cheers.Overnight is one thing but that those prices are close to USD short stay prices. I'll be a first timer too soon but I'm getting my spanish to fluency so I can negotiate to a reasonable price, if no then I'm moving on.
El Centro hoes charge 40 mil COP ($10 usd) they're not overpriced.I think he mean the centro girls charge more in poblado. Hate to use the word hoes.
Is it free before 6 pm. They tried to charge me and it was a few minutes passed 6 pm. Needless to say I never bothered and got rid of the girl.So you went to all the trouble of bringing a Chica back to your hotel at the nutti but then told her to kick rocks because you didn't want to pay the excedente fee?
Sat at the bench in Botero Plaza waiting on my date to arrive.
Sharply dressed man selling balloons was talking to the other two occupants and struck up a convo trying to sell one. I wasn't interested, he said no matter, Feliz Navidad, you have beautiful eyes, fist-bumped and went away.
"Marica. " -- pointed out jolly 50-something Paisa sitting next to me and chuckled. We talk a bit.
He promptly dismissed two SWs that approached before I was able to even realize it and react, saying they will rob me.
- Which ones won't rob me?
- All of them will -- he laughed.
For this favour and nugget of wisdom he then asked for a regalito.
- But I liked one of them.
- You looking for a woman? She charges 20 mil -- elbowed the side of 40-ish gordita next to him.
I took a look and it seemed way overpriced.
She grinned and nodded.
- Let's fuck her together -- says the Paisa.
- You want to fuck me here and he here, or the other way around? She pointed to pussy and ass.
- No, I don't like trios.
- Just you and me then -- she says.
- Gracias senora but I like younger chicas, like those (I pointed). Do you have any nieces or daughters?
- Oh in fact I do -- she pulls out a large-screen phone, changes places to sit next to me and shows a bunch of photos.
- She's 19.
- Hmm maybe, maybe. I don't trust photos though, would have to see her first.
She proceeds to call her but I stop her saying today I can't.
My date shows up, I leave my mongering WhatsApp to pass along and exchange goodbyes.
Learned a new word for a woman that the Paisa has been using -- la hembra.
Learned a new word for a woman that the Paisa has been using -- la hembra.That's not a very good word. Normally used for animals. Male dogs and female dogs are machos and hembras.
Mr Enternational
12-24-23, 16:10
Learned a new word for a woman that the Paisa has been using -- la hembra.If you ask someone how many kids or brothers and sisters they have, you will often hear something to the effect of 2 varones (2 males) and 1 hembra (1 female).
That's not a very good word. Normally used for animals. Male dogs and female dogs are machos and hembras.Perra is also a female dog or *****-- The comics Hembras are from Spain-- I actually have these and others available -- See photos.
John Gault
12-24-23, 17:06
Well, that answers my question on if the place is girl friendly. I'm staying there during my trip but I don't think I'll be taking any ladies to my room, especially with all killings lately, got to keep my safe spot safe.
Going to probably check out the short stays and casas while I'm down there.I consider the hotel safe as they have a big safe in the room. It is large enough to put your laptop inside it. Of course you still have to be careful. The best bet is with the girl in the room do not drink anything. You still have to watch out if she takes a drink and then attempts to French kiss you. Yes I'm sure about this as many moons ago I was caught like this at Mayorista. I was venerable as I love to French kiss these young and pretty girls.
I consider the hotel safe as they have a big safe in the room.You could also fit the mini bar items inside the safe, so your not blinded sided by the bill for these items (that she pocketed without you realizing it) when you check out, but the items are cheap and saves you from leaving and going out and purchasing items, so you can just hang out in your room jaja.
That's Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic, in South America and Spain it is "muchacho / muchacha. ".
If you ask someone how many kids or brothers and sisters they have, you will often hear something to the effect of 2 varones (2 males) and 1 hembra (1 female).
You could also fit the mini bar items inside the safe, so your not blinded sided by the bill for these items (that she pocketed without you realizing it) when you check out, but the items are cheap and saves you from leaving and going out and purchasing items, so you can just hang out in your room jaja.I got a reservation there but I think it's just a queen size room. I want the presidential suite while I'm there but it wasn't available. Anyone know how to check to see if the room becomes available?
That's Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic, in South America and Spain it is "muchacho / muchacha. ".They for sure use varones in Argentina, and I have heard mostly lower class women refer to having varones and hembras, but what I mostly heard was varones why nenas. I would just be cautious about using hembra for humans. It's more for cattle and such. Can translate like kunt in some places. Spain in my experience they use hijo and hija and I for sure would not be using hembra to refer to any Spaniard's daughter. Really not anyone's daughter. Maybe someone's ex wife.
So you went to all the trouble of bringing a Chica back to your hotel at the nutti but then told her to kick rocks because you didn't want to pay the excedente fee?Not exactly, I met her on FB and she told me she was from Manrique, which is right near el Centro, so I thought great I'll be staying in el Centro. So when I got to Medellin I finally contacted her and told her I was in Medellin. We agreed to meet up in El Centro at the Nutibara. While she was traveling to el Centro she even told me she was caught in traffic and would be a few minutes late, so she was quite surprisingly punctual, I thought. So I waited for her down stairs and she text me that she was here. Then I look for her right outside and text back and forth with her then she asks what my room number is. I then realized she was at the front desk and already gave them her ID, which pissed me off because I wanted to see what she look looked like and I could have got her passed the desk with out her signing in and being charged. I asked the hotel clerk what the price was and he said 70 k.
So anyway we head up stairs to my room. So when we get there she was pretty much all business she asks me do I have a condom I said no and and she then quotes me a price of 500 k for sin condom. I thought the "wtf ", is she kidding. I told her this is el Centro and she says oh no I'm not like these el Centro SW ho's. She thought she was a gusto's ho. Believe me! She wasn't. So I got her down to 300 k and I was still a little pissed because I wanted to meet her outside to see how she look in person and if I wanted to be bothered with her in the first place, as well as sort out the details. So as we were getting ready to get down to business I started thinking while I was looking at her somewhat crinkled gut. So obviously I could tell she had a kid and she didn't look like her pictures. Then I came to my senses and though 300 k plus 70 k charge for the room. Right then I walked over to the door, opened it and clearly expressed to her to get out. So she starts whining, as expected, about her transportation expenses, so I hand her a 20 k note and she says "oh it was 40 k" and I tell her she lives close by. Its practically walking distance for some (probably not for a lazy Paisa though). I told her that I was out of 70 k, which I never paid anyways since I kick her out. I think she thought I was staying in Poblado and rented the hotel for our meeting.
This is what I hate about meeting these girls based on photos. You just don't know who or what is going to show up or what you're showing up to.This is where the in person shopping through the Casa's, SW's and even the strip clubs (although it's hard to judge a lot of these girls in the dark) trump the online services. You get to see them without the photoshoping.
Well, that answers my question on if the place is girl friendly. I'm staying there during my trip but I don't think I'll be taking any ladies to my room, especially with all killings lately, got to keep my safe spot safe.
Going to probably check out the short stays and casas while I'm down there.You should download the Worldtraveler69's map and orient yourself to all the clubs and areas if you haven't already. It’s in the Colombia google maps thread and you have to ask him for permission to download it.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1UxdkQ9-vm36hqZmjE87YQcheNFdWBiKd&ll=6.215758026481783%2C-75.56907207845859&z=13
Not exactly, I met her on FB and she told me she was from Manrique, which is right near el Centro, so I thought great I'll be staying in el Centro. So when I got to Medellin I finally contacted her and told her I was in Medellin. We agreed to meet up in El Centro at the Nutibara. While she was traveling to el Centro she even told me she was caught in traffic and would be a few minutes late, so she was quite surprisingly punctual, I thought. So I waited for her down stairs and she text me that she was here. Then I look for her right outside and text back and forth with her then she asks what my room number is. I then realized she was at the front desk and already gave them her ID, which pissed me off because I wanted to see what she look looked like and I could have got her passed the desk with out her signing in and being charged. I asked the hotel clerk what the price was and he said 70 k.
So anyway we head up stairs to my room. So when we get there she was pretty much all business she asks me do I have a condom I said no and and she then quotes me a price of 500 k for sin condom. I thought the "wtf ", is she kidding. I told her this is el Centro and she says oh no I'm not like these el Centro SW ho's. She thought she was a gusto's ho. Believe me! She wasn't. So I got her down to 300 k and I was still a little pissed because I wanted to meet her outside to see how she look in person and if I wanted to be bothered with her in the first place, as well as sort out the details. So as we were getting ready to get down to business I started thinking while I was looking at her somewhat crinkled gut. So obviously I could tell she had a kid and she didn't look like her pictures. Then I came to my senses and though 300 k plus 70 k charge for the room. Right then I walked over to the door, opened it and clearly expressed to her to get out. So she starts whining, as expected, about her transportation expenses, so I hand her a 20 k note and she says "oh it was 40 k" and I tell her she lives close by. Its practically walking distance for some (probably not for a lazy Paisa though). I told her that I was out of 70 k, which I never paid anyways since I kick her out. I think she thought I was staying in Poblado and rented the hotel for our meeting.
This is what I hate about meeting these girls based on photos. You just don't know who or what is going to show up or what you're showing up to.This is where the in person shopping through the Casa's, SW's and even the strip clubs (although it's hard to judge a lot of these girls in the dark) trump the online services. You get to see them without the photoshoping.Sounds like she was trying to rip you off. It should have been around 150 k even without a condom. Plus it sounds like she had a bitchy attitude and baby damage from your discription. You made the right call and most likely dodged a bullet. She probably would have provided a shitty service based on her attitude.
About transportation costs manrique isn't that far from Centro if it is regular manrique it is close by Aranjuez and it isn't even 20 k from Centro it's more like 10-15 k depending on trancon and there's busses that go from. Manrique to one block over from oriental that cost 2850 pesos. Now of it was Manrique Oriental that's a little bit further away but not 40 k taxi. 40 k is actually quite alot for a taxi in Medellin. In 2021 I went from centro all the way to parque de las aguas outside of Medellíand near this Pueblo called Barbosa and that was 40 mil and took like a hour to get there with the traffic.
Glad to hear they didn't charge you the 70 mil. Thats alot for an excedente fee and I wouldn't consider that "girl friendly. " before I got my own apartment here I wanted to stay there but never got around to it. I believe if I remember correctly there is a rooftop pool on the 9th floor or something. They also have nicer remodeled rooms on the higher up floors vs the older rooms on the lower floors.
That's Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic, in South America and Spain it is "muchacho / muchacha. ".It literally just means male and female. Macho = male and Hembra = female. The usage of the words may vary from. Place to place but that is literally what the words mean and yes they are typically used when referring to dogs and cats.
TexasPistol
12-25-23, 11:28
This is what I hate about meeting these girls based on photos. You just don't know who or what is going to show up or what you're showing up to.This is where the in person shopping through the Casa's, SW's and even the strip clubs (although it's hard to judge a lot of these girls in the dark) trump the online services. You get to see them without the photoshoping.I absolutely agree. I was in Medellin for two weeks last month. The first week I wasted so much time and money and then I discovered THE BROTHELS! (erotic massage spas, I mean). I just went to one basically at random and bingo. I see all the girls in person with almost no clothing. In a few minutes I am paying 200,000 pesos per hour with uncovered blow job with a beautiful and very kind 19 year old. Eureka.
And I think it's safer too. Thank God, the numerous girls who came to my room were all actually decent however even then I did have one problem. The airbnb for some reason had all kinds of groceries stocked in the room from vodka to tampons. On top of overcharging me, the girls helped themselves to about $120 worth of stuff. And I was lucky that beyond that they were really good girls. One of them found my stash of pesos and if she had not been honest she could easily have helped herself.
Click on.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-spa/
Or google "Salones de Masajes Eróticos Medellin" for dozens of results.
Open the Uber app, put in the address and go. And even if a spa charges 30 K for a presentation, to be waived if you choose to stay with a girl, I think that's reasonable. It keeps away creeps who have no intention of staying but just want to see a bunch of almost nude girls.
Listen, in hotel Nutibura you can bring for free 1 girl per day in your room after 6 pm. They never asked me to pay 70 k.
And almost all the girls I meet on facebook look the same in real but each time, before a girl come to me in my hotel, I always ask her to answer me on video on messenger or whasapp. If they don't want to do, I refuse the meeting.
Not exactly, I met her on FB and she told me she was from Manrique, which is right near el Centro, so I thought great I'll be staying in el Centro. So when I got to Medellin I finally contacted her and told her I was in Medellin. We agreed to meet up in El Centro at the Nutibara. While she was traveling to el Centro she even told me she was caught in traffic and would be a few minutes late, so she was quite surprisingly punctual, I thought. So I waited for her down stairs and she text me that she was here. Then I look for her right outside and text back and forth with her then she asks what my room number is. I then realized she was at the front desk and already gave them her ID, which pissed me off because I wanted to see what she look looked like and I could have got her passed the desk with out her signing in and being charged. I asked the hotel clerk what the price was and he said 70 k.
So anyway we head up stairs to my room. So when we get there she was pretty much all business she asks me do I have a condom I said no and and she then quotes me a price of 500 k for sin condom. I thought the "wtf ", is she kidding. I told her this is el Centro and she says oh no I'm not like these el Centro SW ho's. She thought she was a gusto's ho. Believe me! She wasn't. So I got her down to 300 k and I was still a little pissed because I wanted to meet her outside to see how she look in person and if I wanted to be bothered with her in the first place, as well as sort out the details. So as we were getting ready to get down to business I started thinking while I was looking at her somewhat crinkled gut. So obviously I could tell she had a kid and she didn't look like her pictures. Then I came to my senses and though 300 k plus 70 k charge for the room. Right then I walked over to the door, opened it and clearly expressed to her to get out. So she starts whining, as expected, about her transportation expenses, so I hand her a 20 k note and she says "oh it was 40 k" and I tell her she lives close by. Its practically walking distance for some (probably not for a lazy Paisa though). I told her that I was out of 70 k, which I never paid anyways since I kick her out. I think she thought I was staying in Poblado and rented the hotel for our meeting.
This is what I hate about meeting these girls based on photos. You just don't know who or what is going to show up or what you're showing up to.This is where the in person shopping through the Casa's, SW's and even the strip clubs (although it's hard to judge a lot of these girls in the dark) trump the online services. You get to see them without the photoshoping.
Not exactly, I met her on FB and she told me she was from Manrique, ....Does the hotel still charge you extra if you book the room for two? You need to prepare condoms and lubricant even if you don't use them. You could avoid the problem if you had asked the girl if she has kid.
It sounds this girl is pretty nice personality wise. You may regret it if it is another girl who decide to call the police or break things in your hotel room. It's best to have the deal in writing and always honor the deal regardless who they are. You can deduct the pay if she does not fulfill the agreement or have adequate compensation to get the girl out of the door without problem.
The walk to Manrique from the hotel is not the safest in that area at night.
Actually in Latin America, you are supposed to put your used toilet paper in the trash can because they use smaller diameter pvc pipes for the drains and it can't handle flushing the toilet paper down the pipes without getting clogged up alot easier than with the larger pipes used in the US....I am aware of it. It has been discussed. It's the presentation. LOL.
Every public bathroom in the country has the garbage can for disposal of toilet paper, and most have signs saying that all toilet paper must be disposed of in the garbage can. The whole country. So it is not "my thing" or unique to your one Airbnb.
Does the hotel still charge you extra if you book the room for two? You need to prepare condoms and lubricant even if you don't use them. You could avoid the problem if you had asked the girl if she has kid.
It sounds this girl is pretty nice personality wise. You may regret it if it is another girl who decide to call the police or break things in your hotel room. It's best to have the deal in writing and always honor the deal regardless who they are. You can deduct the pay if she does not horror the agreement or have adequate compensation to get the girl out of the door without problem.
The walk to Manrique from the hotel is not the safest in that area at night.Not negotiating the price prior to the girl coming over to your hotel room is asking for trouble. I would always recommend having an agreement on price prior to asking a girl to come to you. I would also say that once the girl has traveled to your hotel, to give her just 20 mil for her time after asking her to leave can be problematic because that's a small amount for a Facebook girl. Yes you may be covering transport cost but you've wasted a lot of her time. A number of online girls would not have just accepted 20 mil to go away. There could have been a big argument in your room about fair compensation for her time and she could have caused problems for you. It did work out for you but only because she was very nice to you.
Mr Enternational
12-25-23, 15:55
This is what I hate about meeting these girls based on photos. You just don't know who or what is going to show up or what you're showing up to.This is 2024. You can ask for pictures without makeup or do a videocall first.
Not negotiating the price prior to the girl coming over to your hotel room is asking for trouble. I would always recommend having an agreement on price prior to asking a girl to come to you. I would also say that once the girl has traveled to your hotel, to give her just 20 mil for her time after asking her to leave can be problematic because that's a small amount for a Facebook girl. Yes you may be covering transport cost but you've wasted a lot of her time. A number of online girls would not have just accepted 20 mil to go away. There could have been a big argument in your room about fair compensation for her time and she could have caused problems for you. It did work out for you but only because she was very nice to you.It sounds like he did negotiate a price up front before she arrived but then she changed the price to an exorbitant amount because neither one of them had a condom. Maybe 50 mil more than the original negotiated price for BBFS would be acceptable but if she is telling him 500 mil when she had original agreed to 200 mil or less then that is not acceptable.
I wouldn't have even given her the 20 mil for transport. I had a girl in Bogotá try to pull some similar shit on me and I literally picked her up and threw her out of the room and then had Don Willys (Hotel dude I've known since 2018) escort her out to the street.
And if the ***** had wanted to call the cops I say call them, I probably speak more fluent español than her dumb Veneca ass with her ghetto pana vocabulary and my hotel dude is ex military and knows the police, so yea.
I say he made the correct decision.
Gabacho.
Knowing the importance of settling negotiations before beginning any session is a pre-requisite to Punter 101. There are always valid exceptions but more often than not Moonshot's guidance on this is the best way to go.
Not negotiating the price prior to the girl coming over to your hotel room is asking for trouble. I would always recommend having an agreement on price prior to asking a girl to come to you. I would also say that once the girl has traveled to your hotel, to give her just 20 mil for her time after asking her to leave can be problematic because that's a small amount for a Facebook girl. Yes you may be covering transport cost but you've wasted a lot of her time. A number of online girls would not have just accepted 20 mil to go away. There could have been a big argument in your room about fair compensation for her time and she could have caused problems for you. It did work out for you but only because she was very nice to you.
DR Monger II
12-25-23, 16:51
Let's say I go to Medellin and only engage in incall places and go to El Centro. Will I be safe? Is it safe walking during El Centro during the day. Do the girls at El Centro Scop and drug people?
Absolute safety is never guaranteed in Medellin or anywhere else. The tactic you described will very likely lower your risk profile. To further lower it I recommend you operate on the assumption that any girl would victimize you if given the opportunity. In my opinion, common sense and instincts developed with experience are very effective security tools. I use the example of guys who have little experience in urban settings to explain how otherwise sensible people have problems. You should be reassured that the incidents you read about affect only a small percentage of the punters in Medellin. Err on the side of caution and take sensible decisions (no unattended food, beverages, or valuables, avoid being isolated with unknown parties that outnumber you).
Let's say I go to Medellin and only engage in incall places and go to El Centro. Will I be safe? Is it safe walking during El Centro during the day. Do the girls at El Centro Scop and drug people?
John Gault
12-25-23, 20:17
Let's say I go to Medellin and only engage in incall places and go to El Centro. Will I be safe? Is it safe walking during El Centro during the day. Do the girls at El Centro Scop and drug people?The best bet for safety in MDE is the Casas. No Lady Boys, no underage ones, no getting drugged, and the girls are known to the establishment. They wear outfits so you can pretty much see what you are getting before hand. Also when they walk out to greet you then there is a chance you might pick up a vibe if you are a sensitive sort of guy who knows how to read someone. Lets not forget one important thing. The price is great. No have to go to a short time hotel. All this for around 90 K for a full hour. Wow what more do you want? Ok to take it to another level if you click with the girl then you can meet her outside and she will be happy as then the house gets no cut and she keeps it all for herself.
Yes it is safe walking during El Centro during the day. As for the getting drugged it is possible anywhere in MDE, but more so in Poblado.
.. started thinking while I was looking at her somewhat crinkled gut....
It sounds like he did negotiate a price up front before she arrived but then she changed the price to an exorbitant amount because neither one of them had a condom. ..She did not change price. He did not prepare the needed equipment to complete the deal so they renegotiated, then he backed out the agreed deal. Read the whole post and think about why he was pissed to begin with? He stated one reason and another reason is implied.
Would you expect the girl by default will go without condom? I have never met one girl who will come with condom. How many mongers you know do not have condom when getting outcalls? I know 0. To be blunt about it, he made beginner mistakes. I only post because I don't want to see new people coming repeating the same thing.
I can easily image a scenario that police will ask him to pay 200 mil as agreed. It's an uncenssary hassle regardless,
HShe did not change price. Would you expect the girl by default will go without condom? I have never met one girl who will come with condom. How many men you know do not have condom when getting outcalls? I know 0. To be blunt about it, he made beginner mistakes. I only post because I don't want to see new people coming repeating the same thing.
I can easily image a scenario that police will ask him to pay 200 mil as agreed.They could have just went down to the D1 there on the side of the hotel and bought a pack of condoms, problem solved.
She did not change price. He did not prepare the needed equipment to complete the deal so they renegotiated, then he backed out the agreed deal.
Would you expect the girl by default will go without condom? I have never met one girl who will come with condom. How many mongers you know do not have condom when getting outcalls? I know 0. To be blunt about it, he made beginner mistakes. I only post because I don't want to see new people coming repeating the same thing.
I can easily image a scenario that police will ask him to pay 200 mil as agreed. It's an uncenssary hassle regardless,The bottom line is she changed the terms of the agreement and then they couldn't reach an agreement as per the new terms, so he canceled and told her to kick rocks. He was well within his right to do so. And yes I have met plenty women who carry condoms in their purses, not all but alot do.
Captain Solo
12-25-23, 21:09
In day time, Plaza Botero in El Centro and surrounding shopping streets have tens of not hundreds thousands people walking, eating, shopping. It's Ok to walk, but when the night falls, the entire area are closed down, locked up, totally dark like hell with filthy hobos scurrying in the dark. Even policia are afraid to drive in after dark.
In day time, hundreds girls stand around Plaza Botero and in front of stores selling sex, but most were old and chunky, not my taste. At the NE corner of Carr 53 and Calle 51 behind the Iglesia de vera Cruz, half a dozen hot young girls hang out, a few nice, clean, very pretty. They took me to hotels a few doors away. $10 for girls and $2 for the room. Hotels check girls IDs and don't want to have problems with LEs so you are less likely to get robbed or things stolen.
I took pics of dozens hoes hang out in front of the church front door step with policias and their patrol cars in the church yard. A hoe was screaming and yelling at me. I threatened to call in policias. She did not shut up. 2 policia came to meet me. I told them I only took pictures of the church, nothing else. They were smiling. There are a few small signs "No Photos" on the streets. After some argument with my broken 1 YO Spanish, the sergeant took out his cuff. I told him he could delete the pics in my tel which he did. They looked at the pics with hoes, church and patrol cars in the same shots, smiling broadly. They let me go. The loud biitch kept squealing in front of the church so the came over talking to her. She did not stop. Eventually they cuffed her and put her in their patrol car.
Did see 2 policia on motorbike talking to a guy with a Sony webcam at that corner. After checking the camera, they cuffed and walked him down the street towards the Museum of Antiquity. Damn. I still have pics of hoes, church, policias.
Areas around hotel Nutibara are busy with pedestrians and traffic at night, but don't ever think of walking around El Centro after dark.
Hi Jimbox,
I'll come back Medellin Thursday for the third time in a year. Would you accept to give me some contacts of your sexy girls? Any phone number?
I can give you some phones numbers too if you're interested in. I've about 5 girls very sexy you could be interested in. And they fuck all bareback if you pay little bit more.
So I am back in Medellin. To my surprise half of my friends are gone to Europe or Mexico. My friend told me there is a group of guys offering girls work in Mexico but it will cost them 20,000,000 cop. In exchange they get a passport, flights and the right to stay in an apartment building. Girls will pay this off by giving half of their earning to the owner. There is another group Spanish guys doing the same thing for Europe. By the end of this month I'll lose another 5 friends.
I don't think Medellin will be a monger destination in a few years. I am sure price will significantly increase because of supply and demand.
If you are Medellin, I am always happy to share my contacts. I rather share my friends than seeing them go to Europe or Mexico.
DR Monger II
12-25-23, 21:56
What sort of jail time do these ladies get for scoping and drugging and robbing people if they get caught? What jail time do they get if the victim dies?
So I waited for her down stairs and she text me that she was here. Then I look for her right outside and text back and forth with her then she asks what my room number is. I then realized she was at the front desk and already gave them her ID, which pissed me off because I wanted to see what she look looked like and I could have got her passed the desk with out her signing in and being charged. I asked the hotel clerk what the price was and he said 70 k.
You should have told her, just meet and greet first and probably get some coffee, or at least mention a specific spot outside of the Hotel. Not sure how it works there. I go to Mexico not Colombia. I would ask her to meet as such if I met someone on FB. This FB thing is like 0 in Mexico though, its just not their thing. This girl probably knew she put old pics and pushed the issue at this John, that is you.
In general you face this issue when you have someone show up at your door from FB and other online dating / escort sites. I just don't like it. There are tons of people over by the Mexico board who promote this stuff and I tell them the same thing, nothing beats to meet a girl in person on the streets, in dance or strip clubs, and then arrange for some action.
TexasPistol
12-26-23, 00:41
This is poor fellow is not having a Merry Christmas.
https://youtu.be/dJ9QG8r3BGY?si=bcMmQ3fM0EyttA8i
This fellow declares that he spent a year traveling through 26 countries and the one place he will NOT visit again is Medellin.
https://youtu.be/9tzG0N33R8M?si=4sXuRyGm5M9khsVb&t=684
However Medellin tourism is still booming.
https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/travel-news/the-former-murder-capital-of-the-world-is-now-overrun-with-tourists-20230914-p5e4jb.html
My question is: Will there suddenly be a tipping point and tourists will vanish as quickly as they appeared? Costa Rica could be an alternative. It's more expensive however Medellin can quickly become super expensive if you get robbed or killed. I guess time will tell.
I only post because I don't want to see new people coming repeating the same thing.
I remember when I was fresh to this mongering thing 10 years ago I was pulling my hair out in frustration with girls just ruining my day. I learned it the hard way though. There are 100's of things one can do that can land him in BS situations. The first big decision I made was avoid online escort sites. The odds are just too high to have a terrible time. The second big thing is I learned to judge the character of the girls who interact with me beyond the looks. Now this is not easy, there are 100's and subtle things at that, one has to take a feel of. In the last 5 years I had 2 bad situations, the rest were smooth sailing, long and wet sex making with the girls.
Sounds like she was trying to rip you off. Yeah, I think you or Moonshot mentioned it in one of your past reports about the Uber driver and girl wanted to go for drinks on your dime, like she texts me "love, can I go with my sister and have something to drink?" and I replied with a simple No! Now was she asking me to buy her a drink or was she asking for the time to stop and have a drink. It didn't matter! It was still no! This was a red flag I thought. You know theirs guys out buying drinks or whatever before they get there or they wouldn't be asking. I have a problem when one of these girls tries to put her hand in my pocket before we even meet.
This is poor fellow is not having a Merry Christmas.
https://youtu.be/dJ9QG8r3BGY?si=bcMmQ3fM0EyttA8i
This fellow declares that he spent a year traveling through 26 countries and the one place he will NOT visit again is Medellin.
https://youtu.be/9tzG0N33R8M?si=4sXuRyGm5M9khsVb&t=684
Not sure if the first guy committed any errors. What I take from this is probably better to take a cheap phone and credit card with limited funds for local use and leave the rest at the Hotel. I usually carry a copy of my passport also. It probably helps not to stay until 10:30 PM in deserted road in crime infested area. Unfortunately being fair skinned gives away a lot about you.
The second guy says it all, he trusts people. That is why he went to apartment of people he did not know. That was his problem.
Yeah, I think you or Moonshot mentioned it in one of your past reports about the Uber driver and girl wanted to go for drinks.Yup that was me. It was a Facebook girl, if you can even consider her that, she appeared to me where it says "people you may know" and she was a friend of this other chick who I had previously fucked. Anyways I had messaged her and we agreed to terms of the service and price and agreed to meet at my place. I then ordered her an Indriver (similar to Uber) and I have the name of my indriver account set to a fake name and I have the drop off location set to a panaderia down the hill about a 5 minute walk from my apartment. (I live in a barrio and the streets get real narrow to the point where only motos can make it thru, and the closest cars can get is down by the panaderia).
Anyways after the indriver picked her up, she must have asked the dude to buy her beer and said I would pay him back for it or something, then the dude messaged me thru the indriver app asking me if he could buy beers and I'll pay him back.
I immediately got bad vibes from this and decided I no longer wanted to see the Chica. I told the driver to fuck off basically and I blocked the Chica on WhatsApp. Then when they arrived at the panaderia I didn't go down there to pay for the ride. She never got 20 mil from me or anything for that matter. And even if they wanted to try to involve the cops where would they even say I lived in the panaderia? LOL.
There was literally nothing they could do.
I did get some calls and text from some different random. Numbers calling me hijueputa and shit but I just blocked the number and that was the end of it.
Look here's the screenshot of the dude messaging me thru the Indriver app asking me if he can buy the cervezas and I pay for them. (See Screenshot).
First of all this is an app like Uber it's purpose is for ordering rides, not asking people to buy beers. Secondly I've been enforcing a zero alcohol policy ever since the stupid incident last January in which another ***** tried to scope me but I caught it and foiled the plan but she still managed to steal some electronics from my backpack. Since then I've been holding a grudge against all Venezuelans. I still fuck some of them but I see them for what they are low life crooks and scam artists.
From both incidents I have become alot more selective about who I invite to come to my place. Usually only paisa not Veneca and only ones whom I know and trust and have previously vetted.
Yeah, I think you or Moonshot mentioned it in one of your past reports about the Uber driver and girl wanted to go for drinks on your dime, like she texts me "love, can I go with my sister and have something to drink?" and I replied with a simple No! Now was she asking me to buy her a drink or was she asking for the time to stop and have a drink. It didn't matter! It was still no! This was a red flag I thought. You know theirs guys out buying drinks or whatever before they get there or they wouldn't be asking. I have a problem when one of these girls tries to put her hand in my pocket before we even meet.Sorry I forgot to attch the screenshot for you. Here you go. You can see this is the driver of the app asking for cervezas. Conductor means driver.
Originally I just said I wasn't going to pay for ninguna cerveza and that I only had enough for the ride. But the conversation continued (I don't have any of the rest of it saved though) and then I got the bad vibes and decided to just cancel the whole thing.
I believe you were well within your rights to cancel on your Chica just as I canceled on this Chica. Don't listn to moonshot and them, they don't know what they are talking about. 20 mil for her transport was more generous than I was with this bitxh, and guess what, not a goddamn thing happened to me, police wise, gang wise, or otherwise. Matter of fact I know LOS manes de la vuelta here in my barrio too and they like me here, so really I don't see any options this Uber driver had to do anything to me at all.
The best bet for safety in MDE is the Casas......Can you give me a little more detail when you say "the Casas" please? In South America I've only been to a few of the "Strip" clubs in Quito Ecuador so when you say "casas" what are you referencing and can you give me a few good ones to choose from pleas?
I guarantee the front desk could get a pack of condoms to the room very quickly in exchange for a small tip.
They could have just went down to the D1 there on the side of the hotel and bought a pack of condoms, problem solved.
This is poor fellow is not having a Merry Christmas.
https://youtu.be/dJ9QG8r3BGY?si=bcMmQ3fM0EyttA8i
This fellow declares that he spent a year traveling through 26 countries and the one place he will NOT visit again is Medellin.
https://youtu.be/9tzG0N33R8M?si=4sXuRyGm5M9khsVb&t=684
However Medellin tourism is still booming.
https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/travel-news/the-former-murder-capital-of-the-world-is-now-overrun-with-tourists-20230914-p5e4jb.html
My question is: Will there suddenly be a tipping point and tourists will vanish as quickly as they appeared? Costa Rica could be an alternative. It's more expensive however Medellin can quickly become super expensive if you get robbed or killed. I guess time will tell.Eventhough it is fucked up what happened to him, and he is lucky he didn't die, as he looks like a smaller dude and you ever know how much of that scopolamine they put in the drink, what happened to him is his own fault.
He in fact was the papaya.
I have 5 words of wisdom for him and for others too:
No te confies en nadie.
This is poor fellow is not having a Merry Christmas.
https://youtu.be/dJ9QG8r3BGY?si=bcMmQ3fM0EyttA8i
This fellow declares that he spent a year traveling through 26 countries and the one place he will NOT visit again is Medellin.
https://youtu.be/9tzG0N33R8M?si=4sXuRyGm5M9khsVb&t=684
However Medellin tourism is still booming.
https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/travel-news/the-former-murder-capital-of-the-world-is-now-overrun-with-tourists-20230914-p5e4jb.html
My question is: Will there suddenly be a tipping point and tourists will vanish as quickly as they appeared? Costa Rica could be an alternative. It's more expensive however Medellin can quickly become super expensive if you get robbed or killed. I guess time will tell.That first guy is a scammer. He said he lost 15,000 dollars and now wants donations. Yea right. Either he is the dumbest tourist or a scammer.
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