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Mr Enternational
01-01-18, 02:48
Are there any white European looking Colombian chicas, I know that sometimes physical appearance varies depending on which town you're in.Man you have 130 questions out of 131 posts. Search colombian women on google for instant reaults.

Sean EZ
01-01-18, 03:06
Anyone in Medellin wants to grab beers and meet girls please PM me, I am here until Jan 9.

SBeach25
01-01-18, 03:12
Guys,

I have gone through quite a few history on this forum. While I see many reports on Casas, can someone please recommend good and reliable escort agencies in Medellin? I do understand that they are a bit more expensive compared to what you get out there. However I prefer the safety of them coming into my hotel room. So please recommend agencies and if you have had experience with them. I do not speak Spanish at all. Also. If there is a good agency / website that offers massages in hotel room with extras. Would be appreciated.

I will be in Medellin for a few days end of Jan. And will be staying in Hampton by Hilton Medellin. Any issues bringing over a friend to this hotel?

Thanks,

Vgs.Unless you have these girls register with you at time of check in. I doubt it well be easy to bring in any girls. The hotels have been very strict lately.

HappyButLookin
01-01-18, 04:46
Good evening!

I just flew in today, spent 18 months in Thailand a couple of years back and I'll be here for about 6 months. Probably in South America for a couple of years. I've been mongering for about 30 years off and on.

I read the Christmas posts and how dead it was and didn't think it would be quite so dead on New Year's Eve, in Bangkok or Pattaya there would be multiple clubs with parties and specials, I'd have thought at least one club would be going off. No such luck. It is kind of nice that even the working girls are getting some family time on a holiday.

Seems like you have to be a bit more careful here than in Thailand, I'd walk through anywhere in Bangkok day or night and feel perfectly safe. Though I've spent quite a bit of time in developing countries, so not an issue, just something to watch out for.

I've got a copy of the map and walked 5 miles today trying to find some action! At least I got to know the area a bit, I'm in Laureles.

Looking forward to meeting folks and getting to know the scene, I'm actually hoping to find a girlfriend but I'm not going to be celibate in the meantime! My Spanish is shit, so I'll be taking lessons.

VgsFun
01-01-18, 20:50
Unless you have these girls register with you at time of check in. I doubt it well be easy to bring in any girls. The hotels have been very strict lately.Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?

Thanks,

Vgs.

Knowledge
01-01-18, 22:17
I recognize the 1970's color orange sheet topper LOL! - Botero Plaza. Pretty girl, shame about the tattoo.


Like this? Estrella from FaseDos.

Kys1180
01-02-18, 03:19
I was in Medellin between December 23rd and 26th.

I had finished the Learn Spanish with John Noble Course a few days before my trip and it made me feel confident that I could speak Spanish as good as the native speakers. My first rude awakening was inside the flight when I tried to speak to the flight attendants in Spanish, but every time they did not understand what I was saying.

December 23rd.

I arrived Medellin in the evening and quickly checked in to my Airbnb apartment in Laureles.

I went to Gusto in Parque Lleras around 12:30 am and saw only about 3 girls working there. As I only like to take the girl "toda la noche", I asked 2 of the girls and they quoted 500,000 and 600,000 after negotiations. I also checked out the Streetwalkers and only saw about 5, but nothing I would stick my stuff into among them.

I then took a taxi from there to Fase Dos, and there were about 13 girls working with about 15 guys. 190,000 for 40 minutes (I think)..Does Mariana have blond hair cute face, natural boobs? I took her on site room in Fase dos about two weeks ago But chemistry was not there. I tried to get her number just in case but she asked money. She said she's studying nursing.

SenatorDavis
01-02-18, 06:52
Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?

Thanks,

Vgs.Porton,

I believe, is the nicest girl friendly hotel in El Poblado. It clearly states on the card they give you at check in that you may and should register other guests that go to your room. It is located near an overpass / highway, A little noisy but easy walk to Oviedo & Sante Fe malls. Other posters have noted most of the upmarket hotels are not chica friendly. Unfortunately, the good stuff is all spread out in MDE so one must UBER / taxi mostly. The Metro system is way cleaner and newer than US systems and also would make staying in Estadio doable.

Tasss
01-02-18, 07:20
I noticed that most Mileroticos ads don't have a face pic. Unfortunately I didn't try it on my virgin trip, but if I did I would have wanted a face pic before asking them to come. I assume you just add their WhatsApp and request a face pic or is there another method?

JjBee62
01-02-18, 13:54
If you're returning to Medellin you're going to find transportation just a little more expensive.

The Metro, without a Civica card, is now 2400 cop, a 100 cop increase. At least one bus line has raised from 2000 to 2100 cop. Taxi meters begin at 3200 and minimum fare is 5400 (formerly 3000 and 5000 cop). The mileage rate has increased too. My normal cab ride home went from 6200 to 6900 cop.

Big Boss Man
01-02-18, 17:49
If you're returning to Medellin you're going to find transportation just a little more expensive.

The Metro, without a Civica card, is now 2400 cop, a 100 cop increase. At least one bus line has raised from 2000 to 2100 cop. Taxi meters begin at 3200 and minimum fare is 5400 (formerly 3000 and 5000 cop). The mileage rate has increased too. My normal cab ride home went from 6200 to 6900 cop."To our dear users we want to wish you a Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year, we also want to warn you that our rates will have an increase of 10,000 pesos as of December 15. ".

Sean EZ
01-02-18, 18:13
We stopped by Gusto on New Years Eve and I can confirm it was pretty dead, maybe 4-3 girls working, and a few other foreign girls unaware of the kind of place it was. I've been told one can expect this to be a quiet week in Medellin with many girls gone to Fincas for the week. I've tried FB prepaga forums, not having much luck on FB or Instagram just yet.

El Mechanico
01-02-18, 18:14
Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?

Thanks,

Vgs.You should contact the individual hotel. Hotel Botero Medellin is chica friendly if you pay for a Doble (2 people) or a Doble Cama (2 people-2 beds).

El Mechanico.

UrbanNinja
01-02-18, 19:07
Do Energy and Tantra require a reservation time in advance or can you just show up? Also, does one have much better girls than the other?

Thank you.

IamLookin
01-02-18, 19:08
Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.

Mr Enternational
01-02-18, 19:25
Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.Get away with paying? More like they were getting away with your momey. 2K too low? I was going to say that is too high!

IamLookin
01-02-18, 19:43
Get away with paying? More like they were getting away with your momey. 2K too low? I was going to say that is too high!From what I have read. 200 k is a few hours? Is that right?

YippieKayay
01-02-18, 19:52
Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.Between 300 and 400 k is about right. I've always priced TLN at two hours. The other piece of advise given here is don't do it with someone you just met or someone you think won't want to stay. There's nothing like TLN with a crazy or someone who is bored out of their mind.

Knowledge
01-02-18, 19:53
Botero Medellin doesn't enforce the double occupancy fee unless your date spends the night, and then only if it happens at least twice.


You should contact the individual hotel. Hotel Botero Medellin is chica friendly if you pay for a Doble (2 people) or a Doble Cama (2 people-2 beds).

El Mechanico.

SBeach25
01-02-18, 20:18
From what I have read. 200 k is a few hours? Is that right?Yes but it also means unless you get a cool girl. One pop.

JjBee62
01-02-18, 20:19
Years ago I used to get away paying 200 k I know that is too low now. Can someone tell me what I should expect to pay? Thinking of something like mansion girl quality. Thanks.What to pay depends on whatever deal you can arrange within your budget. It's also going to vary depending on the time of the night. Just had a girl Saturday night tell me she wanted 400 k for TLN. It was already 3:30 am. When I told her no, her reply was, "well then I will only stay 1 hour." That got her another no.

IamLookin
01-02-18, 20:35
Yes but it also means unless you get a cool girl. One pop.It has always been 2 pops or more for me. One pop is not worth it. Is this not the case?

Knowledge
01-02-18, 21:48
I think 2 pops is a very reasonable demand for 200 K.


It has always been 2 pops or more for me. One pop is not worth it. Is this not the case?

Fun Luvr
01-02-18, 22:12
From what I have read. 200 k is a few hours? Is that right?It's not right for most of the ladies who you would want to spend a few hours with. Many of the ladies in the higher ranks for looks and performance are now pretty firm on 200 K for one pop. I have heard some of the Mansion ladies are now asking for 200 K. I have stayed there one time, and none of the ladies I saw were in the higher ranks in looks.

Judd
01-02-18, 22:21
Anyone interested in how to get a 90 day Visa extension without having to leave the Country, please checkout the Chit Chat thread.

IamLookin
01-02-18, 22:33
It's not right for most of the ladies who you would want to spend a few hours with. Many of the ladies in the higher ranks for looks and performance are now pretty firm on 200 K for one pop. I have heard some of the Mansion ladies are now asking for 200 K. I have stayed there one time, and none of the ladies I saw were in the higher ranks in looks.Last time I was at the Mansion I got 2 pops for 150 k. I really thought that was the norm. I know in Cali the Dr Amor casa is 2 pops for an hour with the highest price girl is 150 k If that is the norm in Medellin then it is not that big of a bargain now. Any other comments / experience in this from anyone?

Wolf662
01-02-18, 22:42
You should contact the individual hotel. Hotel Botero Medellin is chica friendly if you pay for a Doble (2 people) or a Doble Cama (2 people-2 beds).

El Mechanico.Generally speaking yes it is. I have had about 20+ girls in and out of there, 3 a day sometimes (and only a couple of times did they ask for ID. Might have thought it was the same girl). But the night guy will sometimes try to hit you up for a 20 k "fee"(might have been 10 k) for it being a different girl that same day. I usually got out of it, told him to talk to the day clerk, that I rented a room for 2, etc.

However late at night they lock the front door and he has to come unlock it and let you in. That time I did give him the 20 k as I don't want him dragging his feet with that duty, me locked out at 2 am on a Centro back street. Fun.

Wolf662
01-02-18, 22:51
Last time I was at the Mansion I got 2 pops for 150 k. I really thought that was the norm. I know in Cali the Dr Amor casa is 2 pops for an hour with the highest price girl is 150 k If that is the norm in Medellin then it is not that big of a bargain now. Any other comments / experience in this from anyone?Depends where you shop.

2 pops with cute VeraCruz girl, 60 k (reg 30 k price x 2).

2 pops with lower end Casa chick 90 k+- (Yakuza 45 k for 1/2 HR x 2).

2 pops with hotter Centro strip club dancer 150-200 k (90 k +- x 2).

Fun Luvr
01-02-18, 23:04
Any Girl Friendly hotels other than Mansion?There is a trip report on another site in which is mentioned that some guys stayed at the Hotel Torre Poblado. They took ladies there every day and night, and there is no mention of extra fees or problems.

YippieKayay
01-02-18, 23:20
There is a trip report on another site in which is mentioned that some guys stayed at the Hotel Torre Poblado. They had ladies there every day and night, and there is no mention of extra fees or problems.I can confirm zero problems at Torre Poblado. Just loud as all hell on the weekends since its so close to parque lleras. Also the place was half renovated. Some of the rooms were shit. Others were alright.

Lou32
01-03-18, 00:04
Last time I was at the Mansion I got 2 pops for 150 k. I really thought that was the norm. I know in Cali the Dr Amor casa is 2 pops for an hour with the highest price girl is 150 k If that is the norm in Medellin then it is not that big of a bargain now. Any other comments / experience in this from anyone?Some guys swear up and down that the Casa Blanca girls are still taking 150 k without complaint. Other guys (myself included) are having a harder and harder time getting the girls to take 150 k without demanding taxi money coming and going, regalos, propinas or just straight up 200 K+.

Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.

Whatever it is breakfast time at the big table is always interesting when the subject comes up.

Lou32
01-03-18, 00:07
Between 300 and 400 k is about right. I've always priced TLN at two hours. The other piece of advise given here is don't do it with someone you just met or someone you think won't want to stay. There's nothing like TLN with a crazy or someone who is bored out of their mind.Bingo! But I've had two girls in Medellin who were both INCREDIBLE in bed and nuts. So I did TLNs with them for the carnal adventure but damn did I regret it in the morning. But then I went back for more, LOL!

YippieKayay
01-03-18, 00:51
Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.
You think good looks gets you a lower price? You should see my ugly mug. I do hear from the prepagos that speaking Spanish helps. Its less boring for them if they are having a good time. Honestly, I don't want to get into a big discussion on how Spanish helps. If the chica isn't bored then it could help with pricing.

Something I should make clear about my posts. I just always offer 200 k and stick to it. I don't ask if they'll go for 150 k. The only exception is when its fixed price like at a casa. 200 k is still cheaper than 100 USD which is what these Colombians want when they're outside of Colombia. Seems like a fair price to me.

Mr Enternational
01-03-18, 02:14
200 k is still cheaper than 100 USD which is what these Colombians want when they're outside of Colombia. Seems like a fair price to me.In Thailand Colombians want $150. And that is why I don't fuck Colombian hookers outside of Colombia. I met a Colombian chick at Tequila Rock in Lima. She told me $100. I said why would I pay you $100 here when I could go to Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8? She laughed and gave me a Hi 5.

Balboa
01-03-18, 02:16
... I do hear from the prepagos that speaking Spanish helps. Its less boring for them if they are having a good time. Honestly, I don't want to get into a big discussion on how Spanish helps. If the chica isn't bored then it could help with pricing..Nothing to discuss, it's just obvious that it helps, greatly.

Knowledge
01-03-18, 02:34
It's usually makes thing easier but I sometimes pretend to be able to speak when I want to avoid certain subjects.


Nothing to discuss, it's just obvious that it helps, greatly.

SpotBlocker
01-03-18, 09:12
I'll be there on 2nd to the 12th let know if you want to meet up, its more fun when your with other people. PM.

El Mechanico
01-03-18, 14:06
You think good looks gets you a lower price? You should see my ugly mug. Don't let YKY fool you! He is like an athletic Greek God, except he is not Greek, he's not a God and he really didn't look that athletic when I met him in the CTG! YKY, this is only a joke! Happy New Year my friend. Our paths will cross again some day!!

El Mechanico.

El Mechanico
01-03-18, 16:47
Generally speaking yes it is. I have had about 20+ girls in and out of there, 3 a day sometimes (and only a couple of times did they ask for ID. Might have thought it was the same girl). But the night guy will sometimes try to hit you up for a 20 k "fee"(might have been 10 k) for it being a different girl that same day. I usually got out of it, told him to talk to the day clerk, that I rented a room for 2, etc.

However late at night they lock the front door and he has to come unlock it and let you in. That time I did give him the 20 k as I don't want him dragging his feet with that duty, me locked out at 2 am on a Centro back street. Fun.I requested that they check the CEDULAS as I don't know enough about them to spot a fake. I would let Paola or Carolina know who was coming and at what time and ask them to check CEDULAS. 1/2 the girls still had their CEDULAS out when they came up to the room. Man I love the HBM! Thanks so much for the referral to that hotel & thanks for all the awesome Intel on El Centro. It made my stay a lot easier & I will be back!!

El Mechanico.

Blue Touch
01-03-18, 17:48
You also may want to ask the clerk to write down the name and number of the cedula in case of robbery or other troubles.


I requested that they check the CEDULAS as I don't know enough about them to spot a fake. I would let Paola or Carolina know who was coming and at what time and ask them to check CEDULAS. 1/2 the girls still had their CEDULAS out when they came up to the room. Man I love the HBM! Thanks so much for the referral to that hotel & thanks for all the awesome Intel on El Centro. It made my stay a lot easier & I will be back!!

El Mechanico.

MedellinGringo
01-03-18, 18:05
Some guys swear up and down that the Casa Blanca girls are still taking 150 k without complaint. Other guys (myself included) are having a harder and harder time getting the girls to take 150 k without demanding taxi money coming and going, regalos, propinas or just straight up 200 K+.

Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.

Whatever it is breakfast time at the big table is always interesting when the subject comes up.I personally have never been quoted more than 150 k for short time at the Mansion. But I haven't been there in over a year.

I did have a tendency to do many of the same girls over and over again each time. Seems to me that some guys get grandfathered into a rate.

And the new guys get charged more. Because you aren't the first guy I have heard say that the mansion chicks want more than the standard 150 K.

ZumZum
01-03-18, 20:37
Hi,

Would be very grateful if someone could recommend some love motels in Poblado, having trouble finding some, only found places in Centro so far.

Thanks!

Chesscat
01-04-18, 01:08
I can confirm that there is a concerted movement towards asking $200 k. I got tired of it, and started offering 50 k for a straight up BJ, which offer was not accepted.


I personally have never been quoted more than 150 k for short time at the Mansion. But I haven't been there in over a year.

I did have a tendency to do many of the same girls over and over again each time. Seems to me that some guys get grandfathered into a rate.

And the new guys get charged more. Because you aren't the first guy I have heard say that the mansion chicks want more than the standard 150 K.

Pilot3592
01-04-18, 02:18
I can confirm that there is a concerted movement towards asking $200 k. I got tired of it, and started offering 50 k for a straight up BJ, which offer was not accepted.Yes after four slow days last week I am convinced the Mansion Mafia females are in collusion. Quotes of 250 and acceptance of 200 was the bottom line. 400 was for TLN. Amusing little things they are but there is a concentrated effort to up the price.

JjBee62
01-04-18, 02:39
Hi,

Would be very grateful if someone could recommend some love motels in Poblado, having trouble finding some, only found places in Centro so far.

Thanks!Try Motel Las Cabañas.

Calle 14 #43 F-65.

No experience with it, but it's the only one I know of in Poblado.

There's also Motel Ibiza in Itagui, along the autopista. Most taxi drivers know it. It's expensive, about 100 k for 6 hours, but rooms are top notch.

For a cheaper route, there are a few very low end places in Mayorista on Carrera 50 A around Calle 81.16-17 k for 2 hours. Expect the bare minimum.

Manizales911
01-04-18, 02:53
I can confirm that there is a concerted movement towards asking $200 k. I got tired of it, and started offering 50 k for a straight up BJ, which offer was not accepted.Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.

Kelso1
01-04-18, 03:46
Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.Your math, and logic is good. The only question I have is if the exchange rate drops back to 1900 will the girls lower their rates?

To me when I'm in country I focus on the currency of that country. If I was happy with USA prices than I would stay home.

Knowledge
01-04-18, 04:04
I promise to continue following your advice about staying away from the place, but not because I am unable to pay what it costs.


Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.

Mr Enternational
01-04-18, 04:55
Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, Sure. Until the exchange rate swings back to 1600 to 1 USD and 200K is then a lousy 125 bucks.

Exact thing happened in Brazil. When the exchange rate was almost 4 to 1, 300 reais for $77 many guys did not mind paying. But when that shit fell to 1.52, all of a sudden that same 300 reais turned to $197.

There was no way I was going to Fase 2 when it was 1600 pesos to the USD, but when that shit went to 3000 pesos to the USD I went to check it out. If it falls back to 1600, then this cheap fuck will never see those portals again.

P.S. It is only costing you less under the assumption that the punter is arriving with USD or a currency that has gained over the CO Peso.

Iguana Six
01-04-18, 05:53
Sure. Until the exchange rate swings back to 1600 to 1 USD and 200K is then a lousy 125 bucks.

Exact thing happened in Brazil. When the exchange rate was almost 4 to 1, 300 reais for $77 many guys did not mind paying. But when that shit fell to 1.52, all of a sudden that same 300 reais turned to $197.

There was no way I was going to Fase 2 when it was 1600 pesos to the USD, but when that shit went to 3000 pesos to the USD I went to check it out. If it falls back to 1600, then this cheap fuck will never see those portals again.

P.S. It is only costing you less under the assumption that the punter is arriving with USD or a currency that has gained over the CO Peso.Of course Colombians working in Peru, Hong Kong, Panama, San Jose, Singapore, or Dubai or anywhere outside of Colombia want more than the ones that are a taxi / metro / bus ride to the mansion. They have fixed costs for delivering their product: lodging, air fare, meals, child care, visas / passports, implants, etc. It is an apples / oranges comparison, like comparing your next door neighbor who is a weekend warrior in the National Guard, and a full time Navy SEAL.

Now, let's look at what the local provider is going to do with your C150? Is she changing it into dollars? I think not. Did her cabfare get more expensive? Nope.

The dollar is stronger in Colombia, because US currency should really be called "OPEC exchange coupons" or "petrodollars. " It is the world reserve currency because OPEC sells its oil for US dollars. You want to buy OPEC oil, you got to change your Euros, Sheckels, Yen, Renmenbi, etc. Into dollars first. (And THAT is why the US arms and defends Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States and even the Syrians helped the US liberate Kuwait, and why the USA Reserve Bank can print up dollars like your local pizza shack prints up coupons.) Dollars are scarce in Colombia, because the USA Is buying less Colombian oil, so they are more valuable. But none of this really impacts chicas, because most of what they buy is made locally and not imported using USA Dollars.

Now, let us factor in the monger's fixed costs. When the exchange rate changed, did the monger's air fare become cheaper? No, the price of jet fuel went down, but air fares did not, since airlines contract their fuel purchases months/years ahead of time, and they are taking the opportunity to cover losses from the recession. Did lodging become cheaper at the mansion? Nope.

Someone mentioned inflation. There IS inflation at work behind the C150 to C200 creep, but is not that the cost of living in Colombia has gone drastically up. If anything, it has gone down, as the diversion of national resources to security have been reduced, thanks to the insurgency winding down. Goods and services can be transported around the country without risk of guerrilla ambushes on the highways, etc.

What has inflated is the number of gringos coming down there. As the country is perceived as more "safe", the more timid monger will come down. As the dollar gets stronger, the more cost conscious monger will come down. As more mongers come down, word-of-mouth advertising kicks in. More newbies, especially newbies with little mongering experience and who were easily impressed, meant more guys amenable to the C150 and the upsell to cab fare. They had no idea about the metro, or that the cab ride back to Bello did not cost C50, so the slide to C200 is a recent development.

I am not opposed to rewarding a provider for a memorable experience. I have been very generous to chicas when it has been warranted. However, I don't want to pay C200 for an experience I can have elsewhere for C75-100, and doing so will make the mansion chica consortium as unresponsive and complacent as the Detroit Department of Motor Vehicles Employees Union.

A few years ago, the mansion did not control the supply of providers. They came when they wanted to come. This led to an uneven mix of chicas / providers. Some nights, not enough chicas, while other nights, too many chicas, and they weren't even earning their cabfare. The management went to an invitation-only system where the providers needed either an invitation from management or the guests to get entry. Some chicas used to come to the mansion several times a week under the old system. Now, some wait weeks for a call from management or regulars.

I strongly agree with Mr.Enternational. When the exchange rate goes back to favoring the COP, we will be stuck with a new price point. Fewer mongers, especially the easily impressed, free spending newbie, will stop coming, we will be stuck with a new price point, and in the end, the chicas will suffer.

When the dollar bought more pesos, I didn't change my spending habits. I just came down to Colombia three, sometimes four, times a year instead of two times a year, or one time a year if went to San Jose. I didn't give my favorites more each time, but I did give them more opportunities to earn, and more opportunities for me to bring them a gift.

Combo
01-04-18, 06:09
The last two posts are spot on. The USD / Peso exchange rate is irrelevant. If a chica were to even bring it up, I'd put her on ignore.

As Mr E alluded, guests at the Mansion (and mongers in general in MDE) are not solely from the US. I've met many Canadians and a few Europeans and Mexicans among my fellow guests. Do they get a discount since their currency has weakened against the Peso?

C Jack Sparrow
01-04-18, 08:56
USD / COP 3000 and prices are the same.

Atoher way around, COP rises, there are no discount for us we mongers.

Princes stay in COP + inflation.

Being nice with high 18-25 prepagos, only leads to $$$ losses and quarrels and even maybe violence.

MDE Mongers MUST set a MAX price for services, and at which places.

I read prepagos own ads and they are lower than gringos pay!

+700,000 + transport for 48/55/60 hours a week for a month work, or just get kicked you by the owner who he in his turns have to pay to Las Bandas, La Policia.

We doesn't need about that internal magical civil war, murders, acid attacks.

Just make a list based on facts; New Life, Mileroticos, La mansion, Energy, etc.

If not accepted, go to another place, and after that go home a watch some porn.

I left a note to a hot MILF 2 years ago, and she did everything. Prices where like 50-100 COP, she was selling candy on Avenida 65. Time was never an issue, since she was tired in her legs, at my place she got a break for 2-3 hours.

Avoid teens from the barrios. The come high and will start a lot of fuzz and your neighbors will start babble and all that shit.

I love love to see to a Max pay list on the MDE forum.

Overpaying is understood as weakness. Not kindness or generosity.

KraigKopper
01-04-18, 09:32
Gents, fellow mongers,

True don't inflate the price it doesn't benefit anyone.

What is your opinion on Torre Hotel / serviced Apartments in EL Poblado. EL Mechanico. You seem to be from the school. Of hard knocks (Tough / Street Smart) Hotel Botero sounds a bit sketchy / crazy / scary.

P.S. Gents I will be in Medellin from 15th for a week. How can I meet up with you all Mongers in Medellin?


You also may want to ask the clerk to write down the name and number of the cedula in case of robbery or other troubles.

Lou32
01-04-18, 10:09
The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.

VgsFun
01-04-18, 13:11
I called both these hotels for what its worth. Trying to figure out where to stay in Poblado area.

Porton. When asked what was the hotel's policy on bringing in guests, the person on the phone immediately understood what I was asking for. He put me on hold for a minute and then came back. Suggesting that if it were "women" friends that I wanted to bring in who would stay only for a limited time period. They will charge $30. When I asked if it was $30/ per person or $30/ day. Interestingly he started to waiver. It was as if he was trying to create a policy on the fly. In other words. He was trying to say. We will allow it as long as we get something out of it.

Hampton. Talked to a woman on the phone and she understood my question right away as well. Her answer was actually very straight forward. They did not have an issue getting a short term friend, as long as I have requested their "permission", that is, notify them in advance who I am expecting and that they want the person to register at the desk.

Looks like I will be sticking to Hampton then. Will let you know my experience.


Porton,

I believe, is the nicest girl friendly hotel in El Poblado. It clearly states on the card they give you at check in that you may and should register other guests that go to your room. It is located near an overpass / highway, A little noisy but easy walk to Oviedo & Sante Fe malls. Other posters have noted most of the upmarket hotels are not chica friendly. Unfortunately, the good stuff is all spread out in MDE so one must UBER / taxi mostly. The Metro system is way cleaner and newer than US systems and also would make staying in Estadio doable.

Pilot3592
01-04-18, 16:49
The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.This sure isn't about get a life or affording another 17 lousy dollars. There is a much bigger picture as most have suggested. A 30% plus increase is crazy. The ones who will suffer the most are the girls at least until a new customer base is established.

Someone pointed out Brazil as an example and this is exactly what will happen in Medellin & the Mansion. It sure did in Brazil which is why I am searching new territory. The exchange will indeed clock back the other direction at some point.

Being new to Colombia I am learning the ropes but the significant price increase requested is a big red flag. Since I just discovered this place and would like to see it remain a similar environment that I read about I have a suggestion. The Mansion folks could set a limit especially since as I now understand an invite only.

Not all gringos are suckers or we would not be having this conversation.

Knowledge
01-04-18, 16:50
I think the girls and the business owners figured out the sucker angle several years ago.


The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.

Knowledge
01-04-18, 16:56
This is 2018, snap a picture of the cedula with your smartphone and go have some fun. When the girl sees that it will discourage her getting into mischief.


You also may want to ask the clerk to write down the name and number of the cedula in case of robbery or other troubles.

C Jack Sparrow
01-04-18, 17:07
We mongers must look at the fact both the US dollar and the Colombian pesos are floating the market can change the price 100% over a year or 2.

The USD has been down to 1600-1700, for just then very very fast move up to over 3000!

Brainless prepagos does not have a clue of this.

Mongers willingness to pay, the club owners all get it. The looser is the monger.

Following IMF special artificial currency XDR with is a mix of current values of the biggest currencies like USD, YEN, Euro, GDP, you end up what real price is, not the days / weeks or months fluctuations.

http://www.xe.com/sv/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=25&From=XDR&To=COP

Today 25 XDR are 100 COP. A good base to start from. Prices will become more stable and not just following the disastrous upward short / medium or long term trend.

And Gentlemen, is will be so much easier to compare not only MDE, Colombia, but their competitors Hotel del Rey, Venezuela (when and if ever get a normal currency), Brazil so have so much to offer. Maybe also Peru and Mexico. Argentina etc. Since the REAL came 1994 the sexindustry in Brazil towards tourists has fallen dramattically, Help closed 10 years ago for an example. Colombia started low even good looking and exotic girls 2002, but prices must be held back. Whereelse should we go? I don't like Asian girls at all; skinny, small breasts and no ass and 50% being Ladyboys.

El Mechanico
01-04-18, 17:14
Yes after four slow days last week I am convinced the Mansion Mafia females are in collusion. Quotes of 250 and acceptance of 200 was the bottom line. Led by Lunita no doubt! My goodness, I love that little Paisa, no matter how much of a ringleader she is!!

El Mechanico.

MedellinGringo
01-04-18, 18:36
I called both these hotels for what its worth. Trying to figure out where to stay in Poblado area.

Porton. When asked what was the hotel's policy on bringing in guests, the person on the phone immediately understood what I was asking for. He put me on hold for a minute and then came back. Suggesting that if it were "women" friends that I wanted to bring in who would stay only for a limited time period. They will charge $30. When I asked if it was $30/ per person or $30/ day. Interestingly he started to waiver. It was as if he was trying to create a policy on the fly. In other words. He was trying to say. We will allow it as long as we get something out of it.

Hampton. Talked to a woman on the phone and she understood my question right away as well. Her answer was actually very straight forward. They did not have an issue getting a short term friend, as long as I have requested their "permission", that is, notify them in advance who I am expecting and that they want the person to register at the desk.

Looks like I will be sticking to Hampton then. Will let you know my experience.Seems to me that any large hotel chain is going to have a policy where are all guests and visitors must register with a valid ID.

If for nothing else to limit their liability if and when you get robbed, stabbed or drugged in your hotel room.

If after you have been robbed, bleed out or die from an overdose, there is a question as to how the woman gained access to your room and who she is then the hotel could be found liable.

Blue Touch
01-04-18, 18:59
Totally correct.


This is 2018, snap a picture of the cedula with your smartphone and go have some fun. When the girl sees that it will discourage her getting into mischief..

Knowledge
01-04-18, 19:45
Come on. Now, let's be fair. No one suggested all gringos are suckers. I think the point was made about a certain group who pay well above market rates for accommodations that are well below market standards for access to a small group of women who are asking for 50% to 150% more than comparable providers are getting.

Ask the management to impose a price freeze that would cut into their kickbacks and other profits? I guess it doesn't cost anything to try. Good luck with that.


This sure isn't about get a life or affording another 17 lousy dollars. There is a much bigger picture as most have suggested. A 30% plus increase is crazy. The ones who will suffer the most are the girls at least until a new customer base is established.

Someone pointed out Brazil as an example and this is exactly what will happen in Medellin & the Mansion. It sure did in Brazil which is why I am searching new territory. The exchange will indeed clock back the other direction at some point.

Being new to Colombia I am learning the ropes but the significant price increase requested is a big red flag. Since I just discovered this place and would like to see it remain a similar environment that I read about I have a suggestion. The Mansion folks could set a limit especially since as I now understand an invite only.

Not all gringos are suckers or we would not be having this conversation.

Mr Enternational
01-04-18, 21:06
Whereelse should we go? I don't like Asian girls at all; skinny, small breasts and no ass and 50% being Ladyboys.Maybe you have been going to the wrong Asia! I have been living in Thailand for 8 years and what you say could not be farther from the truth.

Lou32
01-05-18, 00:20
Led by Lunita no doubt! My goodness, I love that little Paisa, no matter how much of a ringleader she is!!

El Mechanico.Man, ALL the guys love Luna! I don't know what she does in the room but it must be fantastic!

YippieKayay
01-05-18, 02:19
Exact thing happened in Brazil. When the exchange rate was almost 4 to 1, 300 reais for $77 many guys did not mind paying. But when that shit fell to 1.52, all of a sudden that same 300 reais turned to $197.
Interesting. I looked at the charts and in fact the USD to Brazilian Real was at 4 in January 2016. For what it's worth 1 Brazilian real right now is a little under 900 Colombian pesos. When I was in Sao Paolo I paid the garotas 200 reals (sometimes a little more). That's around 200 k Colombian pesos. With that said Sao Paolo was full of clip joints where you can end up spending a lot more (I'm looking at you Scandallo) but if you went to the reasonable brothels like Tangara and the Casarão nightclub you won't be spending that much.

Only problem I had in Sao Paolo is that there is literally fuck all to do during the day. Like FUCK all.

Combo
01-05-18, 03:34
Interesting. I looked at the charts and in fact the USD to Brazilian Real was at 4 in January 2016. For what it's worth 1 Brazilian real right now is a little under 900 Colombian pesos. When I was in Sao Paolo I paid the garotas 200 reals (sometimes a little more). That's around 200 k Colombian pesos. With that said Sao Paolo was full of clip joints where you can end up spending a lot more (I'm looking at you Scandallo) but if you went to the reasonable brothels like Tangara and the Casaro nightclub you won't be spending that much.

Only problem I had in Sao Paolo is that there is literally fuck all to do during the day. Like FUCK all.A city of 20 million people and nothing to do? I'm going to say you weren't trying too hard.

With regard to the 4 to 1 exchange rate, I'm guessing Mr E is referring to 2001- 2004. The rate more than doubled in the hysteria over Lula's election, and us gringo mongers started treating the Real like play money. When the hysteria died down and the rate returned to where it was, everyone was griping about how expensive it had become.

I'm not saying the same thing will happen in Colombia, but exchange rates can move dramatically and very quickly. Maybe by then, Venezuela will be safer and we'll all move our hobbying next door.

Mr Enternational
01-05-18, 04:10
Interesting. I looked at the charts and in fact the USD to Brazilian Real was at 4 in January 2016.The period that I was speaking about is when it was at a high in 2002 and when it dropped to the low in 2008.

Balboa
01-05-18, 05:48
Only problem I had in Sao Paolo is that there is literally fuck all to do during the day. Like FUCK all.Well, you obviously don't know São Paulo too well then.

El Mechanico
01-05-18, 17:57
Man, ALL the guys love Luna! I don't know what she does in the room but it must be fantastic!IMHO, one if not the most beautiful girl I've ever been with. I'm talking about looks, not attitude. She certainly has a confident swag about her. Awesome body, perfect breast implants, tight little booty, etc. , etc. , etc. My prototype spinner body & looks.

El Mechanico.

Sean EZ
01-05-18, 21:12
Another visit last night, busy, most girls are voluptuous types with silicon, not my thing. Doing better with freelancers in other parts of the Parque Lleras and Tinder is good also (my Spanish is good). 150-200 K going rate on average. Haven't been to Fase 2 yet, on my list. Jesus Mio club looked like could be a lot of fun on the weekends, heard might be some freelancers there as well.

For meat lovers El Correro is excellent, and for Ceviche is peruvian Piqueo: both in Poblado / Provenza.

YippieKayay
01-05-18, 22:53
Another visit last night, busy, most girls are voluptuous types with silicon, not my thing.When I was there back in April they were 100% thin model types with a few exceptions. I prefer big butt big fat ole fake tits myself.

Sean EZ
01-05-18, 23:58
When I was there back in April they were 100% thin model types with a few exceptions. I prefer big butt big fat ole fake tits myself.I'll pop in on a weekend again it's only 15 K cover. You should have been there last night then).

Knowledge
01-06-18, 05:19
Trendy Peruvian style in Provenza: La Causa.

All around excellent international cuisine in a stylish Provenza setting: Oci. Mde.

More casual Peruvian style with a youngish vibe in Provenza & Laureles: Mistura.

Bon apetit.


Another visit last night, busy, most girls are voluptuous types with silicon, not my thing. Doing better with freelancers in other parts of the Parque Lleras and Tinder is good also (my Spanish is good). 150-200 K going rate on average. Haven't been to Fase 2 yet, on my list. Jesus Mio club looked like could be a lot of fun on the weekends, heard might be some freelancers there as well.

For meat lovers El Correro is excellent, and for Ceviche is peruvian Piqueo: both in Poblado / Provenza.

Tasss
01-06-18, 05:21
IMHO, one if not the most beautiful girl I've ever been with. I'm talking about looks, not attitude. She certainly has a confident swag about her. Awesome body, perfect breast implants, tight little booty, etc. , etc. , etc. My prototype spinner body & looks.I did not session with Luna but she's very good looking face and body. I'd rate her an 8 in the face. On the other hand, she's not one of the top 5 hottest girls in the Mansion while I was there IMO. I think people like her for her performance in bed.

Pana Nyc
01-06-18, 10:33
Talking like a guy that has never been to Asia before especially Thailand aka "The Land Of Smiles" that's like saying all Eastern European woman don't have ass and all are skinny with small breasts. LOL!


Whereelse should we go? I don't like Asian girls at all; skinny, small breasts and no ass and 50% being Ladyboys.

Bart1
01-06-18, 12:34
Are the girls not entitled to a raise in the price for their services due to inflation? My first (and only) trip to the Mansion was about 5 years ago and the going rate was 100-150 K and the exchange rate was 1900-1,fast forward to today and they are asking 150-200 K and the exchange rate is 2900+-1,you guys need a math lesson and stop being such cheap fukks, it's actually costing you LESS to bed these girls today. 200 K is 68 lousy bucks, if you can't afford that go to el centro and get street girls or stay the hell away from the Mansion until you can afford it, I mean why go to a place that you know damned well, or should know, that the girls are asking 150-200 k and then ***** about it, that makes zero sense to me. Also, look in a mirror and hold up a 50 and 20 dollar bill and ask yourself "would I fuck and suck that for 70 bucks"? Math lesson #1 the difference between 150 k and 200 k is 17 lousy dollars, get a life for crying out loud.This is where you yankee gringos always fukk things up, you always think in greenbacks instead of thinking in the currency of the country and average wage you are visiting. Chicas working in a store or panaderia make 30 k for a 12 hour day, 5 days brings them 150 k, so 150 k for a 1 hour pop verses 60 hours on the go-go in a panaderia, but then they might find a stupid dumb gringo with more money than brains that will pay 300 k, wow won the lottery.

El Mechanico
01-06-18, 14:52
This is where you yankee gringos always fukk things up, you always think in greenbacks instead of thinking in the currency of the country and average wage you are visiting. Chicas working in a store or panaderia make 30 k for a 12 hour day, 5 days brings them 150 k, so 150 k for a 1 hour pop verses 60 hours on the go-go in a panaderia, but then they might find a stupid dumb gringo with more money than brains that will pay 300 k, wow won the lottery.Ohh, OK, and no non-yankee gringo has ever overpaid! Overpaying does not have borders pal!!

El Mechanico.

JjBee62
01-06-18, 15:37
This is where you yankee gringos always fukk things up, you always think in greenbacks instead of thinking in the currency of the country and average wage you are visiting. Chicas working in a store or panaderia make 30 k for a 12 hour day, 5 days brings them 150 k, so 150 k for a 1 hour pop verses 60 hours on the go-go in a panaderia, but then they might find a stupid dumb gringo with more money than brains that will pay 300 k, wow won the lottery.As of Jan 1 the Colombian minimum monthly income is 869,463 cop. This includes minimum wage of 781,242 and transportation subsidy of 88,211. That breaks down to daily pay of just over 40 k, assuming a 5 day work week, except many work 6 days, at about 33 k daily.

Which has very little to do with the price of pussy. The girl working in Exito has a pension plan and very cheap health insurance. She's also probably making a little more than the minimum. Getting pregnant, or catching a venereal disease isn't a risk at her job, neither is getting beat up, raped or robbed. She also has an opportunity, however slim to move up the ladder and increase her income. Her experience gained can help her move up and provides some job security and marketability.

That girl who wants 150 - 200 k can't add "fucked fat, old gringo who doesn't know how to bathe" to her resume. There's no pension, no health care. There's no guarantee she'll work tomorrow or next week. Long before she's eligible for any retirement, she'll be forced to find another way to earn.

This is where tourists, regardless of nationality, always fuck things up. You think that there's no difference between a girl in a bakery and a prepago. Go to your local grocery. In the US that cashier is making about $60/ day, maybe $80. Now find a local prepago that compares to a 150-200 k girl in Medellin. She's charging $200/ hour minimum, while the Colombiana is not watching the clock. That $200 gets you service which rarely compares to the $50 - $67 service here.

If $50-$67 is too much for a clean, sweet, affectionate, 1.5 - 4 hour session with a girl who is likely one of the hottest you've ever been with, stick with the 30 k streetwalkers or the 50 k casas. Quit crying because you think you deserve filet mignon at a McDonald's price.

Muzungufotsy
01-06-18, 15:58
Ohh, OK, and no non-yankee gringo has ever overpaid! Overpaying does not have borders pal!!

El Mechanico.I agree but in Colombia and most South America it s definitely Yankees who fuck everything up. Another example is Cuba. And so on.

Knowledge
01-06-18, 15:58
I've seen many nationalities overpay.


Ohh, OK, and no non-yankee gringo has ever overpaid! Overpaying does not have borders pal!!

El Mechanico.

Iguana Six
01-06-18, 17:22
This is 2018, snap a picture of the cedula with your smartphone and go have some fun. When the girl sees that it will discourage her getting into mischief.Until they steal your cell phone. *.

My friend invited a chica over. The first visit went well. The second visit, when she realized he was alone in his 2 bedroom apartment because his roommate was out of town, she drugged his drink. When he regained consciousness, he was being slapped around by two of the chicas confederates. When he pretended to be too confused to remember the combination to his safe, they injected him with something. They got his phone, passport, cash, and other valuables and were putting them in bedsheets to carry downstairs to their car. But first, they were going to put him in the car. They tied him up, put a sheet over his head, and took him downstairs. He had been acting as if he was completely out of it, until he got to street level, then ran. At first, with the sheet over his head, he bumped off a light post, but since he was just a block away from the police substation at Parque Poblado, the thieves panicked and ran off before they got his valuables to the car. Did they intend to "express kidnap" him and let him go after they took him from ATM to ATM to empty out his credit and bank cards, and THEN let him go? Or did they intend to do something more sinister?

It has been said that of 5 mongers robbed, only 1 reports it on these kinds of boards.

*Yes, I know you could tell the chica that you stored it "in the cloud. ".

Iguana Six
01-06-18, 17:24
The Hotel M girls aren't "raising prices" because they have been scouring the pages of the Wall Street Journal and the Economist and have surmised that the core inflation in US Dollar assets would indicate that cost of services should increase as well so that they may generate a reasonable level of net income compared with prior years in business.

No, the prices are higher because they have finally caught on to the fact that the gringos are suckers.

Some gringos are suckers, plus the fact that there are a lot more of them.

Also, when you consider that the Mansion is a sort of "petting zoo" for newbie, or at least "new to Colombia" monger demographic, they are less aware, and less picky about price point.

But less remember this when the dollar falls to 1700 COP, and the newbie mongers discover the latest new foreign playground. The Mansion will still be full, but it will be populated by guests who are more jaded, less thirsty, and more aware of alternative options. This will not be a happy time for the English students, some of whom will stick to their 200 COP line, but be disappointed when they don't get pulled and they have to pay for their cab home.

Mr Enternational
01-06-18, 19:15
In the US that cashier is making about $60/ day, maybe $80. Now find a local prepago that compares to a 150-200 k girl in Medellin. She's charging $200/ hour minimum, while the Colombiana is not watching the clock. That $200 gets you service which rarely compares to the $50 - $67 service here.You just made his point; which was stop trying to compare things in one place to things back home. If Medellin happened to be more expensive than back home, would you go there with the attitude that things didn't cost this much and are higher quality back home, so Medellin is a ripoff? No. Because back home has shit to do with Medellin.

Kazeu
01-06-18, 19:17
I've been to a lot of countries in Asia, and I must say, his words are not without merit. Big boobs and ass are much rarer there. There are also a lot less obese women in Asia. So take the good with the bad, I suppose.


Talking like a guy that has never been to Asia before especially Thailand aka "The Land Of Smiles" that's like saying all Eastern European woman don't have ass and all are skinny with small breasts. LOL!

Mr Enternational
01-06-18, 19:54
I've been to a lot of countries in Asia, and I must say, his words are not without merit. Big boobs and ass are much rarer there. There are also a lot less obese women in Asia. So take the good with the bad, I suppose.Maybe you have not been to Thailand. I guess it is an anomaly in the Asia group. Big boobs and ass is not rare there and there is also no shortage of fat chicks. A chick that I used to fuck went from this to this.

Knowledge
01-06-18, 21:12
There is some voluptuousness in the Philippines.


Maybe you have not been to Thailand. I guess it is an anomaly in the Asia group. Big boobs and ass is not rare there and there is also no shortage of fat chicks. A chick that I used to fuck went from this to this.

Knowledge
01-06-18, 21:24
That is quite a story. I have a lot of sympathy for the victim and I know it's not a completely isolated case. I try not to display valuables around people I don't know well. I don't know that it was a factor in the situation you cited but I have to wonder why anyone would go through that kind of trouble unless they knew there was worthwhile stuff to get. It's scary that the two thugs got into the apartment. I assume it wasn't difficult when the target was unconscious but it makes me wonder if there was any security in the building. It's just this kind of thing that makes me veer toward hotels. The hotel management has incentive to prevent problems.

Going off topic a bit, I like the idea of using a safes as decoys by placing a small amount of valuables in them and hiding the real stash of valuables somewhere else. Home invaders will generally scoop the contents of the safe and whatever else they can find and then make their escape. Be safe everyone.


Until they steal your cell phone. *.

My friend invited a chica over. The first visit went well. The second visit, when she realized he was alone in his 2 bedroom apartment because his roommate was out of town, she drugged his drink. When he regained consciousness, he was being slapped around by two of the chicas confederates. When he pretended to be too confused to remember the combination to his safe, they injected him with something. They got his phone, passport, cash, and other valuables and were putting them in bedsheets to carry downstairs to their car. But first, they were going to put him in the car. They tied him up, put a sheet over his head, and took him downstairs. He had been acting as if he was completely out of it, until he got to street level, then ran. At first, with the sheet over his head, he bumped off a light post, but since he was just a block away from the police substation at Parque Poblado, the thieves panicked and ran off before they got his valuables to the car. Did they intend to "express kidnap" him and let him go after they took him from ATM to ATM to empty out his credit and bank cards, and THEN let him go? Or did they intend to do something more sinister?

It has been said that of 5 mongers robbed, only 1 reports it on these kinds of boards.

*Yes, I know you could tell the chica that you stored it "in the cloud. ".

IamLookin
01-06-18, 23:09
This is why I stay at hotels that check cedulas and keeps an eye out on who goes in.


Until they steal your cell phone. *.

My friend invited a chica over. The first visit went well. The second visit, when she realized he was alone in his 2 bedroom apartment because his roommate was out of town, she drugged his drink. When he regained consciousness, he was being slapped around by two of the chicas confederates. When he pretended to be too confused to remember the combination to his safe, they injected him with something. They got his phone, passport, cash, and other valuables and were putting them in bedsheets to carry downstairs to their car. But first, they were going to put him in the car. They tied him up, put a sheet over his head, and took him downstairs. He had been acting as if he was completely out of it, until he got to street level, then ran. At first, with the sheet over his head, he bumped off a light post, but since he was just a block away from the police substation at Parque Poblado, the thieves panicked and ran off before they got his valuables to the car. Did they intend to "express kidnap" him and let him go after they took him from ATM to ATM to empty out his credit and bank cards, and THEN let him go? Or did they intend to do something more sinister?

It has been said that of 5 mongers robbed, only 1 reports it on these kinds of boards.

*Yes, I know you could tell the chica that you stored it "in the cloud. ".

El Mechanico
01-06-18, 23:15
I agree but in Colombia and most South America it s definitely Yankees who fuck everything up. Another example is Cuba. And so on.Damn Yankees!128513;129315;.

Queens35
01-07-18, 01:58
Your math, and logic is good. The only question I have is if the exchange rate drops back to 1900 will the girls lower their rates?

To me when I'm in country I focus on the currency of that country. If I was happy with USA prices than I would stay home.Exchange rate doesn't factor into it since they quote in pesos. They don't care what the exchange rate since the price of bread and milk doesn't fluctuate with the exchange rate. Discussion of exchange rates in relation to this is irrelevant.

My first trip about 8 years ago, they charged was 150 k at the Mansion. I can't believe that guys still expect to pay 150 k when the cost of living probably rose by 50%, if not more, since then. It's like us working for a European company in the US that pays us in USD. No matter what happens to the Euro-USD exchange rate, the cost of food in the US is higher in 2018 than it was in 2010, so I need to be paid more.

Queens35
01-07-18, 02:31
Seems like some of you believe that the chicas are trying to raise their rate from 150 k to 200 k because they figured out that the exchange rate is up. Like I said in a previous post, they couldn't care any less about exchange rates since they have no effect on what they pay for food, clothing, makeup, cell phones, etc. The cost of living increases gradually annually, prices on most items go up every year. The generally accepted rate has been at 150 k for a long time. Now, they are consciously trying to raise it to 200 k. I applaud them, it's about time. Maybe if they had raised it 10 k every couple of years since 2008, instead of 50 k in one shot, guys wouldn't be complaining (as much). Well, there are always guys complaining, because they think we should pay the chicas what a minimum wage worker makes per hour. I hear guys all the time saying how spoiled these chicas are, they charge for 1 hour what a regular worker makes in a week. Not a good comparison since one involves having to suck fat, bald, gringo dick and one does not.

And to the person that stated that cost of living has gone down, you are wrong. Inflation has averaged about 3-4% per year for the last 15 years or so, it was double digits pre-2000.

Queens35
01-07-18, 02:38
As of Jan 1 the Colombian minimum monthly income is 869,463 cop. This includes minimum wage of 781,242 and transportation subsidy of 88,211. That breaks down to daily pay of just over 40 k, assuming a 5 day work week, except many work 6 days, at about 33 k daily.

Which has very little to do with the price of pussy. The girl working in Exito has a pension plan and very cheap health insurance. She's also probably making a little more than the minimum. Getting pregnant, or catching a venereal disease isn't a risk at her job, neither is getting beat up, raped or robbed. She also has an opportunity, however slim to move up the ladder and increase her income. Her experience gained can help her move up and provides some job security and marketability.

That girl who wants 150 - 200 k can't add "fucked fat, old gringo who doesn't know how to bathe" to her resume. There's no pension, no health care. There's no guarantee she'll work tomorrow or next week. Long before she's eligible for any retirement, she'll be forced to find another way to earn..Perfectly stated!

Queens35
01-07-18, 02:41
My friend invited a chica over. The first visit went well. The second visit, when she realized he was alone in his 2 bedroom apartment because his roommate was out of town, she drugged his drink. When he regained consciousness, he was being slapped around by two of the chicas confederates. When he pretended to be too confused to remember the combination to his safe, they injected him with something. They got his phone, passport, cash, and other valuables and were putting them in bedsheets to carry downstairs to their car. But first, they were going to put him in the car. They tied him up, put a sheet over his head, and took him downstairs. He had been acting as if he was completely out of it, until he got to street level, then ran. At first, with the sheet over his head, he bumped off a light post, but since he was just a block away from the police substation at Parque Poblado, the thieves panicked and ran off before they got his valuables to the car. Did they intend to "express kidnap" him and let him go after they took him from ATM to ATM to empty out his credit and bank cards, and THEN let him go? Or did they intend to do something more sinister?Always watch your drink!

Knowledge
01-07-18, 05:48
I am with you my brother.


This is why I stay at hotels that check cedulas and keeps an eye out on who goes in.

SenatorDavis
01-07-18, 06:40
There is some voluptuousness in the Philippines.Pinays do have some voluptuousness, but I generally find them shorter and darker skinned then Thais. There is quite a variety amongst the 7 k islands though. Thai and Vietnamese near the northern borders close to China are fairer skin and taller than Pinays.

I don't recall a country on par, or even close, w Colombia in terms of ass meat in SE Asia, perhaps in sub-Saharan Afri. When I see the lineups at the casas in Medellin this is what is most striking. I can't believe the chicks who get butt implants on top of that. Do note, that if you don't mind silicone, there is plenty of T & A in Thailand, not sure about the butt implants though. Fake braces, noses, and titties for sure.

Combo
01-07-18, 08:14
I've been to a lot of countries in Asia, and I must say, his words are not without merit. Big boobs and ass are much rarer there. There are also a lot less obese women in Asia. So take the good with the bad, I suppose.While they are certainly rarer, you have to consider the numbers. Go to Pattaya and you have roughly 50,000 working girls at your disposal. This dwarfs the numbers in any Latin American venue. Even if the percentage of girls with big boobs and ass is lower, the absolute number is still substantial. I can tell you from personal experience that you can definitely find girls with T and A in Thailand.

Alliwantislove
01-07-18, 15:19
This is 2018, snap a picture of the cedula with your smartphone and go have some fun. When the girl sees that it will discourage her getting into mischief.Does anyone know of an app which takes a photo and then automatically sends it to a predetermined email address?

Knowledge
01-07-18, 17:08
All the mobile platforms can be set to automatically save photos to online storage services (flickr, one drive, google cloud, etc. Etc.). I think there is probably apple or android apps that will e-mail photos but you are better off storing them in the cloud for future reference and to restore in case your phone is stolen or lost.


Does anyone know of an app which takes a photo and then automatically sends it to a predetermined email address?

Kazeu
01-07-18, 17:24
When I was in Medellin looking for freelancers on mileroticos, I got tired of weeding through trash and wrote something to help me out. Attached is a zip file with an html file inside. It shows summaries of the last 10 pages of listings form milerotico's medellin section. The ads were consolidated by phone number. Sorted by date then number of ads. Pictures from a individual phone numbers ads are collected and displayed together. You can quickly scan for freelancers who show pictures with their faces and avoid agencies which post frequently, thereby diluting the quality of the ad stream.

Unfortunately its not dynamic, so this listing will get stale, but just thought I'd try and help out those folks in medellin right now. I posted something similar in the Bogota thread.

Enjoy.

ElLoko35
01-07-18, 23:05
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.

ColombiaLover
01-08-18, 02:05
Are you sure you want to commit to being with a chica you do not know for a whole day? To be honest, I have been going to Medellin for over 11 years and there are only a handful of girls who I would actually wan to spend the whole day with. And that includes some of my regulars that I love to fuck, but really do not want to hang out with otherwise.

That said, I recall some posts a few months back talking about experiences with girls from SeekingArrangement.com. If I remember, the guy talked about passing the day with them. I can't remember exactly how much he paid. But I don't think it was more than 600 mil.

If you find the right chica, there is really no reason you have to pay her anything more than what you would pay her for sex. You are offering her a day that she cannot otherwise afford. And how often does she get the opportunity. You buying her food and drinks. Maybe you are going somewhere in MDE with her (Parque Valentine, movies, Parque Explora). Maybe you are buying her a little gift at the mall. As long as she knows you are going to pay her for sex, I think many, if not most chicas, would do it. If you develop some type of connection with them. Even if via conversations by Whatsapp or FB.

In the past I've had favoritas. And they have always been happy to pass time with me because they always knew I'd pay them for sex. The rest of the day was something of a treat for them.


What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.

Lou32
01-08-18, 02:54
A lot of times the girl is in the room for less than an hour and they want 200 plus Uber plus regalo. That is what a lot of guys mean by "spoiled".

HappyButLookin
01-08-18, 03:30
I landed Last Sunday, no action, Monday I took a stroll through Central and it was pretty dead but there were some streetwalkers, I took one, 30 k, she upsold me another 20 k, but I didn't care, just wanted to get laid. It was not worth the time or money. My fault as my Spanish is quite bad. I'll save street girls for when I can actually talk with them.

I tried the Blue Room, there were two chica's one early 20's, very cute and curvy. Paid for 30 minutes, 90 k was told no penetration after I was in the room, paid her another 30 k for sex. Shit massage, sex was quite good, will go back for an hour. She was really into DATY and getting fingered, she was working her clit at the speed of sound.

Tried the Oriental Spa, got their Nuru massage, prices on the site are wrong, they are high, I'm posting a pic of their menu with prices. I've had Nuru many times in Asia as well as Soapies and this was nothing like that, it was a shitty oil massage with a half-assed chica assisted shower at the end, with a sandpaper-like towel. 2 Chica's working, they were maybe 5's. Was hoping for a good massage based on website descriptions, nope. The website is marketing with no relation to reality. Would not recommend.

Going to check out some other places next week.

Wolf662
01-08-18, 04:57
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.The only chick I wanted to hang out with for a length of time, I gave her 300 k about every 12 hrs plus did a little shopping and of course eating, drinking, partying etc.

KainNYC
01-08-18, 04:59
Anybody going to be in Medellin around 1/24 -2/12? I know the city well, have contacts etc, and we have a party at our hotel on weekends! Let me know if you want to hangout, need help etc, good luck gentle men.

JjBee62
01-08-18, 05:12
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.With absolutely nothing to go on, would you commit to eating every meal for a week at a completely unknown restaurant, with the price fixed in advance? Keep in mind, you can't sneak out for something else if you don't like the food.

How much it costs isn't the biggest concern. For all you know, the menu has only 1 choice and it's something you can't stand.

You want a girl for a full day / night? First find a girl that you really enjoy for an hour or two. After a great time suggest having dinner, followed by another session, the next night. If, after that, you really can't wait to do other things with her, try for something longer the next day.

12 hours or more with the wrong girl is going to feel like a week. Even if you send her packing after 2 hours, she's still going to want however much you negotiated.

My example:

Met a girl a few months back. Talked a little, but nothing more. I wasn't sure if I was interested, even though she was trying to get me to give her a date. A few weeks later, I took her to bed and the sex was great. I happily paid her price. A few more weeks went by and I let her talk me into an afternoon session. Another great time. She was supposed to have another date that evening, but the guy was a time waster. So she tracked me down at a bar and hung out for a few hours. She couldn't find another date, so I took her home for the night. The price for all night was the same as I paid for the first session.

Friday night, I had her meet me at a mall. I took her to dinner, walked around, went to a movie, made out a few times between dinner and the movie. Made out some more in the theater and then headed off to my favorite Motel. Stayed in the motel for 2 1/2 hours, with about 1. 5 hours of sex, 3 sessions, 2 nuts and an hour of relaxing.

Total time together 7. 5 hours and she'd been happy to stay another 8 hours. Paid her the same price as a short session and she wanted to do another session the next night for the price of taxi and a few drinks.

I made the mistake when I first got here of trying to plan something longer with a stranger. It cost me a lot more and left me angry and disappointed.

Most of these girls have no depth. There's nothing to talk about, there's nothing they want to do with you. They just want to get your money and get out. Trying to spend a whole day with most is going to be a bad experience for both of you.

PaisaPorFavor
01-08-18, 05:13
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.Just be nice to them and ask. I didn't meet one paisa that turned down a free meal or drinks. They said it was usually harder to get rid of them.

Friend2017
01-08-18, 05:22
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.The best way to get a girl is through contacts or recommendations, I don't have any at this moment, but some people here do.

If you need some escort girl for the whole day, IMO she would probably charge you between 400 to 3 million pesos, depending on how attractive she is and the number of hours of sex you want.

Kazeu
01-08-18, 09:06
If the girls are banding together to push prices up. Do you think there's a way for mongers to organize and push prices down? Maybe a Monger's Union so to speak.


A lot of times the girl is in the room for less than an hour and they want 200 plus Uber plus regalo. That is what a lot of guys mean by "spoiled".

MedellinGringo
01-08-18, 09:35
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.300 k to 400 K is the norm for me. The best way to get a girl to hang out with you all day or night is to ask her if she wants to.

Knowledge
01-08-18, 13:23
This is one of the helpful ways to use this forum. Benchmarking is information and information is power.


If the girls are banding together to push prices up. Do you think there's a way for mongers to organize and push prices down? Maybe a Monger's Union so to speak.

Hasideas Tao
01-08-18, 16:34
If the girls are banding together to push prices up. Do you think there's a way for mongers to organize and push prices down? Maybe a Monger's Union so to speak.There is no shortage of girls who will accept 100 k to come to you. If they want more than that and won't budge, its likely because they have been playing this game a while. And in some occasions, yes, I think they are worth a little extra if in my mind it is a guaranteed good time. I find many of the girls will accept even less once we have gotten to know each other a bit. In the casas, if I like a girl, I will say, hey would you like to visit me at my apartment? They almost always say yes and I get their whatsapps. If not or if it gets into negotiations I say, It will be a lot more comfortable, its safe, it will be more fun and you will make more money then I am giving you now. Usually but not always they ask how much. I say 80. Sometimes they say ok sometimes they say not enough and I say ok 100.9 out of 10 will accept the 100 or less or maybe say plus taxi. Of course, YMMV. I think the key is to BE READY and speak with a straight face. Just practice whatever line you need to seal the deal saying ochenta ochenta over and over and it will come out more confident. you can always go up.

Mr Enternational
01-08-18, 17:14
There is no shortage of girls who will accept 100 k to come to you.Very sound advice. Unfortunately most mongers have more money than they do patience, game, negotiating skills, time, etc. I have never met a hooker that I just had to have. So if one will not accept, I move on until I find one that will.

Lou32
01-08-18, 23:41
If the girls are banding together to push prices up. Do you think there's a way for mongers to organize and push prices down? Maybe a Monger's Union so to speak.No, I don't think so. If you are a local girl then you are stuck there and it would be easy to develop a local rep as the chica who undercuts her sisters so there is some pressure to stick to pushing for higher prices. But the guys are from all over the world, don't know each other and don't really know what some other guy is paying. So there isn't as much pressure to keep prices down for the men.

Lou32
01-08-18, 23:44
What would be the best way, if I want to get a girl to hang out the whole day with me, let's say go to the mall, do lunch, maybe hit the club later that night, and how much can that set me back to? Thanks in advance for any recommendation.The only country I've been to where the girls absolutely LOVE being with you all day is the Philippines.

Dickhead
01-09-18, 01:25
I am rather curious to know what is supposed to be fun about taking a hooker to a mall. Buy me this, buy me that. I would rather take a shit and fall backwards.

SBeach25
01-09-18, 01:38
Anybody going to be in Medellin around 1/24 -2/12? I know the city well, have contacts etc, and we have a party at our hotel on weekends! Let me know if you want to hangout, need help etc, good luck gentle men.I'm curious as to the name of the hotel that will allow you to have parties? I'd like to know.

Mr Enternational
01-09-18, 03:11
I am rather curious to know what is supposed to be fun about taking a hooker to a mall. Buy me this, buy me that. I would rather take a shit and fall backwards.I guess you get to show her off maybe? When me and my girlfriend in Bogota go to the mall, I am in the salon getting my grooming done while she is running around doing whatever. I guess you can eat, bowl, and see a movie too. Some guys like to do more than fuck their hookers.

JjBee62
01-09-18, 03:52
I am rather curious to know what is supposed to be fun about taking a hooker to a mall. Buy me this, buy me that. I would rather take a shit and fall backwards.Can you narrow down your definition of "hooker?

The reason I ask is because I recently had a great time at a mall with a woman who takes money for sex. Would I just send out a message to some unknown girl and ask her to go to the mall? Not a chance. However, this was someone I've been with multiple times. She's always been spectacular with no problems. We had dinner. I tried to buy her a little something for Christmas, but she wouldn't let me. Saw a movie and then she showed her appreciation. After about 7.5 hours, I paid the same as most guys are paying for 1 hour.

What was fun about it? Sharing a good dinner with someone who really appreciated it. Walking around and enjoying the Christmas decorations. Making out before and during the movie was lots of fun too. I even had fun taking her shopping, and it didn't cost me anything, but I got a great return for the time. Believe it or not, it can be a lot of fun, with the right girl, to treat her like a real person.

Try to do that with an unknown girl, or the wrong known girl, and it's going to be a disaster. Do it with the right girl and it's prom night all over again.

C Jack Sparrow
01-09-18, 04:01
I am rather curious to know what is supposed to be fun about taking a hooker to a mall. Buy me this, buy me that. I would rather take a shit and fall backwards.If you feel that is going the wrong way, just leave her. I have female friends to go to the most exclusive CC just to find extranjeros. Then you, as a seasoned monger, find a girl or a 2-3 friends hanging out, and have a coffee or drink with them.

Then it shows who like sex more than a new pair of high-heels sandalias. So you you call the most sensible one and there with her the next day, you get some hot paisa pussy in your hotel and she loves her new sandalias. A win-win. And can lead to more than that, and that she set you up with her best looking friends for a coffee or waffles etc.

But I met a girl some years ago, she was sick. In the sense you described. She was from the infamous AmoLatina, also known in Russia as Anastaias Models, same owner, all total bullshit.

YippieKayay
01-09-18, 04:44
I am rather curious to know what is supposed to be fun about taking a hooker to a mall. Buy me this, buy me that. I would rather take a shit and fall backwards.Some people form relationships with hookers, for better or worse.

Knowledge
01-09-18, 05:03
I would like to know too, so I can avoid the place.


I'm curious as to the name of the hotel that will allow you to have parties? I'd like to know.

SipThisJuice
01-09-18, 10:10
I wish you good luck because you are going to need it. Search these threads for information about Facebook girls. They are a good option for girls you want to come to your airbnb. You can use one of the many translation (babelfish, google translate, etc.) services to communicate with them via messenger. In case you don't want to bother reading the threads carefully, a very important point is to create a facebook account for this purpose only. It will help avoid friends and family getting wind of what you are up to. Another thing to focus on is information about reasonable prices to pay. You will get unreasonable offers but if you take advantage of information on this forum you will know which offers to decline.

So back to why I think you will need good luck. Any kind of travel is more complicated with a large group. You will attract attention because of the size of the group alone. If you insist on flaunting signs of wealth, you will attract the kind of attention you don't really want to attract. The news is not all bad, one advantage of a group that size is you are much less likely to be attacked. Even well armed criminals would have trouble getting away with going after a large group of men.Thanks, I appreciate the help. Quick question do you have any advice on how a group of 10 in Medellin should move around in the city? Should we split into groups or just stay together?

Dickhead
01-09-18, 14:11
Can you narrow down your definition of "hooker?A woman who takes money or accepts goods or lets someone pay her bills, in exchange for sex.

YippieKayay
01-09-18, 14:27
I tried to buy her a little something for Christmas, but she wouldn't let me...

I even had fun taking her shopping, and it didn't cost me anything, but I got a great return for the time.She wouldn't let you buy her a Christmas gift but you took her shopping and it cost you nothing to take her shopping?

That's the dangerous thing about this hobby. You can very quickly get caught up in the fantasy of things. Caveat emptor.

Arcangel
01-09-18, 14:50
A woman who takes money or accepts goods or lets someone pay her bills, in exchange for sex.I thought traditionally the word for this is "wife".

Knowledge
01-09-18, 14:53
Brilliant! I am humbled by the wise humor of this post.


I thought traditionally the word for this is "wife".

SBeach25
01-09-18, 16:03
I thought traditionally the word for this is "wife".A wife will no longer give you sex. She is entitled to your money after marriage. She is entitled to everything you have "But" she will easily relinquish the rights to suck or Fuk your penis.

JjBee62
01-09-18, 16:26
She wouldn't let you buy her a Christmas gift but you took her shopping and it cost you nothing to take her shopping?

That's the dangerous thing about this hobby. You can very quickly get caught up in the fantasy of things. Caveat emptor.How is this confusing you? There was time to kill before the movie. I walked her into Falabella. I was thinking of spending 50 k or so. Not exactly breaking the bank. After 5 minutes in the store, we walked out. She wouldn't even look at anything. I know it was the first time anyone has taken her to a movie and I think it's the first time anyone has taken her shopping. Total amount of money spent $0.00 (or 0.000.00 COP).

There are regular reviews from guys who bring a few hundred dollars worth of gifts every trip and give them out to girls from Raudel to Lleras. There's even guys who fly girls they barely know from Medellin to Cartagena for a 5 day trip. There's guys who take chicas to San Andres, Cancun, Curacao, etc. All good. But if I spend about 100 k extra for dinner, popcorn and movie and end up with a TLN experience for what guys are dropping for 1 or 2 hours, I'm caught up in the fantasy?

Here's reality:

Each of these girls have their abilities and limitations, rules, restrictions and expectations. I understand and accept that. I'm not giving Victoria's Secret panties to a Raudel streetwalker. I'm not taking a girl from a casa or strip club to La Causa for dinner. I'm not taking a mileroticos girl to Cartagena. Why? Because such gifts are wasted. The streetwalker will be trading the panties for glue tomorrow, or her pimp will. The casa girl has no idea how to behave in a nice restaurant and 9/10 are going to show up inappropriately dressed.

As for flying a girl anywhere. I have friends that do it, but I don't see any relationship of that sort in my immediate future.

However, there are a few girls who will happily spend the night, without asking for more money at 3 or 9 am. There are girls who don't hear "ka-ching" each time you bust a nut. There are girls who, although they need the money, they enjoy the time spent with someone who treats them like a regular girl.

And just like a regular girl back in the US, if you put just a tiny bit of effort into making these girls feel special, they'll show you just how much they appreciate your effort.

Turgid
01-09-18, 17:27
The only country I've been to where the girls absolutely LOVE being with you all day is the Philippines.I have been to Thailand and Indonesia in addition to the Philippines and I have found that the girls in those countries like to hang out with foreigners. I understand the same goes for Cambodia and other South East Asian countries as well.

MedellinGringo
01-09-18, 19:11
She wouldn't let you buy her a Christmas gift but you took her shopping and it cost you nothing to take her shopping?

That's the dangerous thing about this hobby. You can very quickly get caught up in the fantasy of things. Caveat emptor.It's not just the guys. When the women refuse to take the money, buy you a gift and go completely nuts with jealousy when they catch you with another chick, you know they can fall into the same trap.

I doubt it happens much with guys that do nothing but short time. But when you sleep with the same chicks night after night and they let you into their personal lives it can and does happen.

I now draw a line at meeting a chick's mother and their children. In fact just not getting involved with women with children is probably the best way to avoid those kinds of situations.

Combo
01-09-18, 20:43
Some guys swear up and down that the Casa Blanca girls are still taking 150 k without complaint. Other guys (myself included) are having a harder and harder time getting the girls to take 150 k without demanding taxi money coming and going, regalos, propinas or just straight up 200 K+.

Either the 150 k guys are lying, handsome, built like fitness trainers, amazing lovers or regulars coming down monthly or those of us who are having trouble getting the women to stick to 150 k are ugly, smelly, fat, terrible in bed or just fell off the turnip truck newbies.

Whatever it is breakfast time at the big table is always interesting when the subject comes up.Not necessarily lying. They are just willing to walk away.

More experienced mongers tend to develop the sense to walk away if they don't like the deal they're getting. They realize how much their money is worth in local terms and don't want to be taken for a fool. Newer mongers (or guys down for a long weekend) tend to pay up. This is a generalization but it's what I've found over many years in this hobby.

The counterintuitive point is that if you're willing to walk away, you usually won't have to. Looks, language ability, etc might or might not help a bit, but they aren't crucial for most prepagos.

YippieKayay
01-09-18, 23:38
It's not just the guys. When the women refuse to take the money, buy you a gift and go completely nuts with jealousy when they catch you with another chick, you know they can fall into the same trap.
Yes I've seen this too. I know a hooker in Cartagena who used to be super bubbly and happy. She was the happiest and nicest person I'd ever met there. Evidently, some monger broke her heart and "left" her. She turned into a miserable * Even her friends tell me she's completely changed.

It happens to the chica and the extranjero. Personally, I think it's a giant waste of time. Like that Cartagena chica was hooking the entire time she was chasing that guy. What's the point of a hooker girlfriend?

Knowledge
01-10-18, 00:08
I think you will have few problems moving as a group in places like Lleras / Poblado / Provenza. You will also be OK in tourist oriented zones like Guatape etc, or in large public spaces like Botero Plaza. In grittier areas of Centro or anywhere off the beaten track, you are better breaking the group up into two to four guys to avoid attracting too much of the wrong attention. You would be generally safe but ne'er do wells would try to take advantage of anyone who lags or appears more impaired than the core group, rather like wolves do with flocks of sheep. Be safe and enjoy.


Thanks, I appreciate the help. Quick question do you have any advice on how a group of 10 in Medellin should move around in the city? Should we split into groups or just stay together?

Lou32
01-10-18, 00:09
I am rather curious to know what is supposed to be fun about taking a hooker to a mall. Buy me this, buy me that. I would rather take a shit and fall backwards.Some people play golf with their doctors, go hunting with their lawyers and take in a ball game or two with their accountants. "Hookers" are young women who have souls and emotions and a need for human interaction beyond simply laying on their backs as a guy twice their age humps them.

Lou32
01-10-18, 00:13
I have been to Thailand and Indonesia in addition to the Philippines and I have found that the girls in those countries like to hang out with foreigners. I understand the same goes for Cambodia and other South East Asian countries as well.I've never been to Indonesia and Cambodia. Thai girls will hang with you but (at least in my experience) they still expect you to have the baht handy for quick transfer whereas the Filipinas are a bit more *shy* about asking for pesos even though ALL women want the money for doing the deed.

HappyButLookin
01-10-18, 01:49
I tried Secret Spa this afternoon and was sadly disappointed, So far the Blue Room is the clear winner for places near Laureles. At this point, I'd not go anywhere else around Laureles, though I've only been there once. My gut says central is the best place to go. Did a cruise through there Sunday afternoon with a friend. At the Blue room, I had a very cute and enthusiastic young girl, a nice big room, a shower before and after and even sex furniture!

And just for comparison, as there was a great review of Medellin by a guy that had never been to Thailand a week or so ago there is absolutely no comparison between the scene in SEA and MDE. Without too much effort in BKK or Pattaya, you can find whatever it is your looking for, I mean whatever! With exponentially better service at a much better price. I'm not complaining mind you, I'm happy to be living someplace where the game is legal. And there is no way I'd participate here the way I did there. And it gives me a reason to go back to SEA for a visit.

Villainy
01-10-18, 04:56
I tried Secret Spa this afternoon and was sadly disappointed, So far the Blue Room is the clear winner for places near Laureles. At this point, I'd not go anywhere else around Laureles, though I've only been there once. My gut says central is the best place to go. Did a cruise through there Sunday afternoon with a friend. At the Blue room, I had a very cute and enthusiastic young girl, a nice big room, a shower before and after and even sex furniture!

And just for comparison, as there was a great review of Medellin by a guy that had never been to Thailand a week or so ago there is absolutely no comparison between the scene in SEA and MDE. Without too much effort in BKK or Pattaya, you can find whatever it is your looking for, I mean whatever! With exponentially better service at a much better price. I'm not complaining mind you, I'm happy to be living someplace where the game is legal. And there is no way I'd participate here the way I did there. And it gives me a reason to go back to SEA for a visit.OK I've been to Secret Spa and walked away. The hostess on the first floor was drop-dead gorgeous (less than 5 ft and 100 lbs) but she took me to meet the girls upstairs. Nice if you like bigger & taller girls. She said she doesn't session so. I went to Energy! That is the place in Laureles that you need to go. A little awkward to find for sure but they have a big line-up (take a pencil / pen and paper) and you'll see something you like. Not cheap but very good looking girls and nice clean rooms with showers. Definitely the go-to place in Laureles.

Turgid
01-10-18, 16:36
I've never been to Indonesia and Cambodia. Thai girls will hang with you but (at least in my experience) they still expect you to have the baht handy for quick transfer whereas the Filipinas are a bit more *shy* about asking for pesos even though ALL women want the money for doing the deed.Got to find me some *shy* Filipinas when next I return to the Philippines.

SenatorDavis
01-10-18, 23:57
Got to find me some *shy* Filipinas when next I return to the Philippines.Pinays are an outlier in SEA and be / see of their Spanish colonization more closely resemble other Spanish influenced countries like Colombia, Mexico, CR, etc. I'm Not sure about shy, I will say be / see of the strict catholic upbringing there are more pent up / hidden aggressions and more bi-polar Pinays.

Be / see of the English, I would highly recommend the Philippines as a starting point for SEA for those looking to expand outside Medellíand. Unlike medellíand, stuff is easier to find and more clustered. Hard to beat the prices in the casas in centro though and I do find the paisas having a friendlier demeanor, generally, like the Thais.

HappyButLookin
01-11-18, 01:55
OK I've been to Secret Spa and walked away. The hostess on the first floor was drop-dead gorgeous (less than 5 ft and 100 lbs) but she took me to meet the girls upstairs. Nice if you like bigger & taller girls. She said she doesn't session so. I went to Energy! That is the place in Laureles that you need to go. A little awkward to find for sure but they have a big line-up (take a pencil / pen and paper) and you'll see something you like. Not cheap but very good looking girls and nice clean rooms with showers. Definitely the go-to place in Laureles.Thanks! I'll check it out.

Judd
01-11-18, 13:32
I believe the majority of them would rather hang in the barrio with their boyfriend and girlfriends, rather than gringo grandpa communicating thru google translate.


Some people play golf with their doctors, go hunting with their lawyers and take in a ball game or two with their accountants. "Hookers" are young women who have souls and emotions and a need for human interaction beyond simply laying on their backs as a guy twice their age humps them.

Turgid
01-11-18, 14:00
I believe the majority of them would rather hang in the barrio with their boyfriend and girlfriends, rather than gringo grandpa communicating thru google translate.I think you underestimate the gringo grandpa. Firstly the ladies are aware that an association with the gg is more financially rewarding. Secondly, at the risk of being labelled as altruistic and impressionable a gg can have a meaningful conversation, albeit via a translation app, and give her advice that can improve her life. These girls are not stupid, they are aware of the benefits.

JjBee62
01-11-18, 14:23
I think you underestimate the gringo grandpa. Firstly the ladies are aware that an association with the gg is more financially rewarding. Secondly, at the risk of being labelled as altruistic and impressionable a gg can have a meaningful conversation, albeit via a translation app, and give her advice that can improve her life. These girls are not stupid, they are aware of the benefits.There's always going to be guys who won't understand. There are benefits for both parties.

I spent yesterday playing gringo grandpa. It cost me 16 k for my taxi, plus about 4 k in coins, my contribution to a little girl's piggy bank. I got a home cooked meal, made friends with a girl's father (or stepfather, or maybe just her mom's boyfriend), who offered to take me to a strip club. Improved my friendship with her mother, who offered an invitation to a finca and to other family outings. It also taught me a lot about how and where these girls live. As a bonus I got a geography and language lesson.

While most guys are either anxiously waiting for some girl to arrive 2 hours late, or sitting around complaining there's nothing to do, some guys are learning how to coexist.

It doesn't mean I am moving beyond the P4P scene. I'm just finding things to talk about other than cuanto cuesta.

FuckAfMedDig
01-11-18, 20:18
It's not just the guys. When the women refuse to take the money, buy you a gift and go completely nuts with jealousy when they catch you with another chick, you know they can fall into the same trap.

I doubt it happens much with guys that do nothing but short time. But when you sleep with the same chicks night after night and they let you into their personal lives it can and does happen.

I now draw a line at meeting a chick's mother and their children. In fact just not getting involved with women with children is probably the best way to avoid those kinds of situations.It is very easy to get caught up in the mini relationships but whod date a hooker at home? I wouldn't-so why travel to do it abroad?.

Fulfill your fantasies but the power balance is unbalanced from the get go with p4 p girls and you will always buy them in some way I feel.

I have dated quite a few p4p girls in Rio and it always comes with a short sell by date...it only lasts a few weeks and thats probably what it should......I might come back and hit it in the future but those mini relationships tend to have a peak after a few paid sessions followed by some free bies etc etc-it is fun though!

Mr Enternational
01-11-18, 21:16
It is very easy to get caught up in the mini relationships but whod date a hooker at home? I wouldn't-so why travel to do it abroad?Speak for yourself. I am home now and just met a chick on backpage who is on the way over to go to the mall with me.

Dickhead
01-11-18, 21:30
Maybe I just don't like malls. I will say that the malls in Medellín are a lot hotter than the malls in the Yew Ess, and I am not talking about the temperature. I've taken plenty of hookers to dinner, a couple to shows, and one to a horse track. Traveled with three (two were a lot of fun and one was a total PITA, all women I had known for at least a year). Once I bought a hooker a pair of shoes for her birthday and that was an agonizing process until I finally realized she thought they were all too expensive. So then I gave her a price range and we trotted back to her favorite pair's store and were quickly done. But we avoided malls.

Chesscat
01-11-18, 23:03
This board used to be dominated by know-nothings. Now all of the sudden all these guys are chiming in with wisdom. Something's up!


There's always going to be guys who won't understand. There are benefits for both parties.

I spent yesterday playing gringo grandpa. It cost me 16 k for my taxi, plus about 4 k in coins, my contribution to a little girl's piggy bank. I got a home cooked meal, made friends with a girl's father (or stepfather, or maybe just her mom's boyfriend), who offered to take me to a strip club. Improved my friendship with her mother, who offered an invitation to a finca and to other family outings. It also taught me a lot about how and where these girls live. As a bonus I got a geography and language lesson.

While most guys are either anxiously waiting for some girl to arrive 2 hours late, or sitting around complaining there's nothing to do, some guys are learning how to coexist.

It doesn't mean I am moving beyond the P4P scene. I'm just finding things to talk about other than cuanto cuesta.

Iguana Six
01-11-18, 23:32
A wife will no longer give you sex. She is entitled to your money after marriage. She is entitled to everything you have "But" she will easily relinquish the rights to suck or Fuk your penis.A provider is someone you give a little money, for a little while, and she fucks you.

A wife is someone you give all your money, for a long time, and she doesn't fuck you.

An ex-wife is someone who gets half your money, forever, and she fucks someone else.

Wolf662
01-11-18, 23:42
It is very easy to get caught up in the mini relationships but whod date a hooker at home? I wouldn't-so why travel to do it abroad?.I do.

I prefer the Sugar Baby type girls off SeekingArrangements etc and it is akin to dating, my longest SB relationship was a stripper who lived with me off and on for 5 years. She had some substance abuse problems but was very hot & fun to me. She was 18 when we met and she just turned 30 last year. LOL.

Judd
01-12-18, 00:03
Or wants to develop some sorta relationship outside the Cama. I think that's great especially if you have the resources. I'm just saying, all things being equal, most of these chicas would rather hang wit their friends and family. That's been my impression with the experiences I've had here in Col and Argentina. In Peru, the chicas seemed more down to hangout.


I think you underestimate the gringo grandpa. Firstly the ladies are aware that an association with the gg is more financially rewarding. Secondly, at the risk of being labelled as altruistic and impressionable a gg can have a meaningful conversation, albeit via a translation app, and give her advice that can improve her life. These girls are not stupid, they are aware of the benefits.

PolloNegro
01-12-18, 00:22
In about 4 weeks, My spanish is pretty good I've traveled all over was afraid to travel to Colombia for personal reasons and television, now I've made up my mind, only going for 3 days and want to hit all the spots, any help would be fine, like hotels near the Zona Roja, which ones are safe and daily rates? Recently saw some girls on video on the USsexguide site and was like, that's it, I'm going to medellin, So the first week of February, I'm out, I want to see the girls and I don't want to spoil anyone or mess up the going rate, PolloNegro is out!

SalseroLoco2
01-12-18, 02:10
Or wants to develop some sorta relationship outside the Cama. I think that's great especially if you have the resources. I'm just saying, all things being equal, most of these chicas would rather hang wit their friends and family. That's been my impression with the experiences I've had here in Col and Argentina. In Peru, the chicas seemed more down to hangout.I've hung out with a few Medellin massage parlor girls after hours, and had a few more who wanted to hang out but I begged off. My Spanish is pretty fluent though. Talking with the translator app would get pretty tiresome for anyone I'd think, no matter how nice / charming / handsome / generous you are.

Once I took a massage parlor girl out to a great dinner after which she stayed at my place all night. It was intense and romantic and awesome. Then she asked for money in the morning and I was a bit taken aback and mildly hurt, though in retrospect I was of course being super naive.

Another time I got invited to a little house party by a girl who worked at a place called Abydos which I believe is now closed. There were about 10 girls there, at least three of them who I'd had sessions with. I was imagining some amazing orgy, but the girl who invited me had two small kids at home so that definitely wasn't happening. Still a pretty cool experience. I felt pretty honored to be invited (I was the only guy there).

In general, my favorite thing about Medellin prepagos is that they often don't seem to be cold and hardened. There's often some genuine GFE going on, or they are incredible actresses. Either way, works for me!

SBeach25
01-12-18, 05:24
An ex-wife is someone who gets half your money, forever, and she fucks someone else.Your wife will not fuck you get all your money and still fuck someone else. After you divorce her, she is entitled to half and still fucking someone else. Bottomline, don't get a wife.

Balboa
01-12-18, 18:03
There's always going to be guys who won't understand. There are benefits for both parties.That's the bottom line right there. Just leave it at that and enjoy.

Queens35
01-12-18, 18:53
A lot of times the girl is in the room for less than an hour and they want 200 plus Uber plus regalo. That is what a lot of guys mean by "spoiled".An hour? A session minimum is 90 minutes, I've never done a short session.

Hasideas Tao
01-13-18, 13:06
This board used to be dominated by know-nothings. Now all of the sudden all these guys are chiming in with wisdom. Something's up!I think patience being the biggest game changer for any traveler. The more you have, more things go your way, less wasted energy and the better your experience.

Queens35
01-13-18, 15:45
An hour? A session minimum is 90 minutes, I've never done a short session.To clarify my post from earlier. 90 minutes is MY usual minimum. I've had 2 chicas leave in less than 90 minutes in 10 years. And I never negotiate time / services. I've only had 1 clock watcher (a Luna Lunera stripper at the Mansion many years ago) in MDE in at least 40-50 sessions and one chica that didn't want to talk just fuck so she left after 45 minutes or so with 150 k. Aside from that, they all stay longer.

Before I start sex, I always like to talk with them for at least 20-30 minutes, helps break the ice. Most of my dates last minimum 2 hours, I've had 4 hour dates (and that's without going out of the room, just talking / watching tv / goofing around). I love spending time with these chicas, especiallay my regular, they are fun to hang with. And they seem to enjoy spending time with me. I pay 150-220 k, depending on performance (and time). Usually, I'll give them 150 or 170 for a standard session. But for my regulars who spend 3 hours with me and make me cum twice, want it up the ass, CIM, etc, it's 200-220. Again, it's never discussed and I have never gotten a complaint. I will usually throw in 20 for her to get home too. (For those of you who say taxi or metro doesn't cost 20 k, relax, it's $7. If that affects your bottom line, I'm sorry.).

I've learned 3 things in my monger career:

1. YMMV.

2. Don't wait to grab a chica you like, because somebody else will.

3. don't tell others how to spend their money.

Queens35
01-13-18, 15:58
In about 4 weeks, My spanish is pretty good I've traveled all over was afraid to travel to Colombia for personal reasons and television, now I've made up my mind, only going for 3 days and want to hit all the spots, any help would be fine, like hotels near the Zona Roja, which ones are safe and daily rates? Recently saw some girls on video on the USsexguide site and was like, that's it, I'm going to medellin, So the first week of February, I'm out, I want to see the girls and I don't want to spoil anyone or mess up the going rate, PolloNegro is out!PolloNegro (nice name BTW).

If your fears have to do with personal safety, hopefully you leave the fear behind in the US. Yes, you should always be aware of your surroundings and be especially careful after dark (as in stay inside). But that doesn't mean you should be looking over your shoulder expecting the grim reaper all the time. As long as you use common sense (don't even bring jewelry / watch, don't flash wads of cash in public, don't wear a fanny pack, no fancy smartphones in public, etc) you'll be fine.

If safety is a concern, not sure staying in Centro is the best idea. The hotels there are less than $30/ night, but the area can be sketchy even during the day. For a first time, the Mansion serves a purpose, even though the rooms are overpriced. It's a good place for a first timer to meet new chicas daily and put together a black book. If you want a hotel, I would recommend Laureles area. It's much safer and the hotels aren't too expensive. You can get a nice room for like $50-60.

Lou32
01-13-18, 21:44
An hour? A session minimum is 90 minutes, I've never done a short session.You speak spanish then. If you don't speak spanish then this doesn't really work I think at least for most guys I've talked to about how long the girl should stay.

PolloNegro
01-14-18, 00:33
PolloNegro (nice name BTW).

If your fears have to do with personal safety, hopefully you leave the fear behind in the US. Yes, you should always be aware of your surroundings and be especially careful after dark (as in stay inside). But that doesn't mean you should be looking over your shoulder expecting the grim reaper all the time. As long as you use common sense (don't even bring jewelry / watch, don't flash wads of cash in public, don't wear a fanny pack, no fancy smartphones in public, etc) you'll be fine.

If safety is a concern, not sure staying in Centro is the best idea. The hotels there are less than $30/ night, but the area can be sketchy even during the day. For a first time, the Mansion serves a purpose, even though the rooms are overpriced. It's a good place for a first timer to meet new chicas daily and put together a black book. If you want a hotel, I would recommend Laureles area. It's much safer and the hotels aren't too expensive. You can get a nice room for like $50-60.I'm taking notes and my first visit will be for 3 days, my work won't let me stay gone too long, but if necessary I could fly down weekly, but if I like Medellin like I like San Pedro Sula, I'll be back every 3 weeks, I planned my life that way, I saved at a young age and positioned myself for super fun after 40. It's either Colombia or Asia, I chose South America, hopefully I make new friends, usually I do! The women I've seen so far are grade A. See you guys soon!

Queens35
01-14-18, 04:07
You speak spanish then. If you don't speak spanish then this doesn't really work I think at least for most guys I've talked to about how long the girl should stay.Yes, sorry, I should have said that I'm fluent in Spanish. But I think it can be done without fluency as long as you can get by (without using translator app).

Turgid
01-14-18, 16:02
....I've learned 3 things in my monger career:

1. YMMV.

2. Don't wait to grab a chica you like, because somebody else will.

3. don't tell others how to spend their money.I'll comment on 2 and 3. With respect to 2 that's easier said than done. In a club environment you may see a chica you like and grab her and on going to the room you see a better looking chica and you wish you had waited. This has happened to me many times. However, it has also happened that I lost out on a hottie. My strategy is to wait a while but don't wait too long. Regarding 3 there are genuine newbies who unknowingly would have overpaid, and I see nothing wrong in advising them that they overpaid, without insults of course.

JjBee62
01-14-18, 18:46
Yes, sorry, I should have said that I'm fluent in Spanish. But I think it can be done without fluency as long as you can get by (without using translator app).I'll confirm that. I occasionally need to reach for the translator, or need to have things repeated, but I can get by in Spanish. I'm a long way from being fluent. My average with a chica is somewhere between 90 minutes and 2 hours. Of course that's not 2 hours of constant sex. Talk a little, play a little, talk, play, etc.

My recharge time is usually too long for a quick 2 or more pops. However, I've had more than a few girls initiate round 2 with no prompting.

Many guys have the perception that the girl is rushing out to see 4 or 5 guys a day. This is probably due to places like the Mansion, where many of the girls do just that. It's not the case with many of the girls. They're seeing 3 or 4 guys a week. They've got plenty of time to spend with you if they enjoy your company.

KainNYC
01-15-18, 15:53
Join us as we explore the night / day life of medellin. Wingmen wanted, if your looking for a safer way to have fun and explore medellin with other like minded people this is it.

Bridgewater
01-15-18, 23:00
Went to Dulce Compania last week.

When I walked in I was seated I was greeted by a lady who ask me how long I wanted and how much the price was (15 min 30 k,30 min 42 k, 1 hour, not sure).

Then each girl came out and introduced themselves one by one. I settled on the girl who showed the most interest who happen to be the oldest. Girls in general ok looking. Couple good looking girls with a little weight.

I then paid the lady for 30 minutes and met the girl in the room. My Spanish is awful so I used my phone to describe what I wanted. I wanted 2 cumshots, so I told her. I would give her an extra 10 k.

The lady wasn't the best need to learn how to say slow down. Overall good because she was willing.

My question is do 30 min / hour sessions in Medellin already include multiple cumshots?

Ideally, I would want to start of with an HJ and then a second or or sex.

Also how do I tell and girl to keep going to I'm completely done when she is giving an HJ or BJ in Spanish? Thanks.

Tasss
01-16-18, 04:54
Many guys have the perception that the girl is rushing out to see 4 or 5 guys a day. This is probably due to places like the Mansion, where many of the girls do just that. I don't doubt your experience there, but for me, none of the M girls were rushed. I only had maybe 2 girls that were somewhat rushed and they were both FB chicks.

HumanBeing1
01-16-18, 06:47
I'm taking notes and my first visit will be for 3 days, my work won't let me stay gone too long, but if necessary I could fly down weekly, but if I like Medellin like I like San Pedro Sula, I'll be back every 3 weeks, I planned my life that way, I saved at a young age and positioned myself for super fun after 40. It's either Colombia or Asia, I chose South America, hopefully I make new friends, usually I do! The women I've seen so far are grade A. See you guys soon!Medellin is a very safe city but I wouldn't stay in centro. A lot of homeless and druggys. There are a lot of nice areas I agree with the laurales suggestion. It's a very nice area and not touristy. If you want the full experience though stay in Lleras.

Have fun. It's a great place.

Dickhead
01-16-18, 14:49
Also how do I tell and girl to keep going to I'm completely done when she is giving an HJ or BJ in Spanish? Thanks.'Sigue hasta el fin.'

Surf Looker
01-17-18, 02:49
AMigos any contact info on Fas Dos or strip club girls with big boobs, pornstar type.

Mansion girls not like the stripclub girls.

Can't find fas dos type girls on facebook HMMM. Video of this chick is on xvideo.

https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio

Black Page
01-17-18, 14:15
AMigos any contact info on Fas Dos or strip club girls with big boobs, pornstar type.
Mansion girls not like the stripclub girls.
Can't find fas dos type girls on facebook HMMM. Video of this chick is on xvideo.
https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.PalacioThe pix you posted looks so sexy, but when I checked her photos at the FB link you gave, I got simply scared. NO WAY I would welcome such a silicone monster in my bed. I did not try TV yet, and for the moment I still do not feel attraction.

El Mechanico
01-17-18, 15:36
I did not try TV yetTV? I looked at the fotos. I would cull her out because I like skinny tight natural asses, not the huge thick silicon booties. I still didn't see anything hanging though. If she'/ he's a TV, I need to proceed with caution because I could not tell. The pic he posted showed a few full frontal nudes with nothing hanging .

What did you see that I am not seeing??

El Mechanico.

Hasideas Tao
01-17-18, 16:16
Medellin is a very safe city but I wouldn't stay in centro. A lot of homeless and druggys. There are a lot of nice areas I agree with the laurales suggestion. It's a very nice area and not touristy. If you want the full experience though stay in Lleras.

Have fun. It's a great place.I have to defend el centro.

I have stayed in many hotels in Centro. I know many friends who have also stayed in hotels in centro.

I now have an apartment in centro and I have many guests stay with me.

I nor none of my friends or guests have had a problem on the streets of centro in the almost 10 years I have been walking these streets.

I have however been robbed in Parque lleras going back a while.

I have also heard 2 stories of friends getting robbed in taxis. A motorcycle pulls along side, takes your phone and gone.

Centro is a "colorful" part of the city with many personalities walking the streets. People generally are just trying to get to their destinations. There are also many off the beaten path streets in Centro. For as many busy centro streets you walk, there are 10 quiet streets with some very interesting architecture and scenery. Centro has a lot to discover. The undesirables are generally obvious. In every part of the city there are sketchy people. That goes for mentioning, in any part of the city, don't walk while messaging on your cell phone. Always try to be alert and aware of your surroundings. I am against flip flops or any kind of shoes that can just fall off your feet if you perhaps needed to high tail it across the street.

In taxis, close your window and lock your door.

El Mechanico
01-17-18, 18:49
I have to defend el centro.I too have to defend El Centro. I stayed at the Hotel Bortero Medellin, right behind the Nutibarra, 12/26-12/31/17. Could not have had a better time. Met up with a couple of other gringos & had a great time. Very chica friendly hotel, right across the street from Yakusa, 1 1/2 block from Conejitos & another strip club / dance bar, right around the corner from Maraciabo & whatever the other strip bar is. Plenty of restaurants, parques & museos if you want to call yourself a cultural tourist. Taxis galore, Uber, the green & white bus to & from the airport stops less than 100 yds from the front of the HBM. Never had much trouble day or night. Walked to Conejitas at night several times. Walked around Botero Plaza at night several times. No problems. This was 9 or 10 pm Not 2 or 3 am Anytime I wanted to use my phone for directions or whatever, I ducked into a tienda, church or went & stood by one of the 100 or so cops in Parque Bolivar or Plaza Bortero. An ounce of prevention guys!

The only time we came close to any danger was 10 min before I was to get on the bus for the airport to return home, 10:30 am Ish, some young punk started following us by Parque Bolivar asking for money. I told him no 5 times yet he persisted. I told him no in a more aggressive voice & he walked to get even with me as opposed to behind me. I told him no again & he showed me a folded up knife in the palm of his hand. This kinda scared me a bit so I stopped to turn to face him & in a very aggressive louder voice told him no again & he backed away. I told my friend in a very loud voice "he's got a knife!" and the punk was gone. Before you ask, I turned to face him when I saw the knife only because I felt I could defend myself better face on than with my back or side to him. Remember this was at 10:30 am With a gazillion people on the street, shop owners, tienda owners etc. , everywhere. Anyway, I guess the point I am making is one can decrease their chances of something happening by walking with someone else or in a group, during daylight or early evening hours, not flashing your phone, etc. , etc.

I thought about not even posting this confrontation with this punk but everyone should be aware at all times, everywhere. Even at 10:30 am On a busy street. But I also think that everyone can go to El Centro & really enjoy it if they are cautious.

El Mechanico.

Mr Enternational
01-17-18, 18:55
The only time we came close to any danger was 10 min before I was to get on the bus for the airport to return home, 10:30 am Ish, some young punk started following us by Parque Bolivar asking for money. I told him no 5 times yet he persisted. I told him no in a more aggressive voice & he walked to get even with me as opposed to behind me. I told him no again & he showed me a folded up knife in the palm of his hand. This kinda scared me a bit so I stopped to turn to face him & in a very aggressive louder voice told him no again & he backed away. I told my friend in a very loud voice "he's got a knife!" and the punk was gone. Before you ask, I turned to face him when I saw the knife only because I felt I could defend myself better face on than with my back or side to him.Maybe he was trying to sell you the knife.

Wolf662
01-17-18, 19:48
AMigos any contact info on Fas Dos or strip club girls with big boobs, pornstar type.I think you may have answered your own question. Go to FaseII and pick out the one you like the most (they usually will have some with really big tits / ass) do a session with her on site, if you click get her number and arrange a date before / after work or on her day off.

Picking girls by just the picture won't always work out, is she cool / sweet / vivacious / sexy / good in bed / fun etc. Not to mention the use of very cherry picked / airbrushed / old photos can lead you astray. My last visit to FaseII there was one with the biggest T&A you could imagine, almost did a session with her before I saw Estrella who was hot & fun. But no silicone. (not that I care, I just want them to be hot, how they got that way I don't care).

El Mechanico
01-17-18, 20:22
Maybe he was trying to sell you the knife.That is funny! You are correct, maybe I misunderstood his intentions!

El Mechanico.

Bridgewater
01-17-18, 21:12
Went to a casa east Carrera 46st. Last night a little before 7 and the guy said reservation only. With the casa / houses do you have to call text ahead of time?

Also do 30 min / hour sessions in Medellin already include multiple cumming?

The Tall Man
01-17-18, 23:42
I think you may have answered your own question. Go to FaseII and pick out the one you like the most (they usually will have some with really big tits / ass) do a session with her on site, if you click get her number and arrange a date before / after work or on her day off.

Picking girls by just the picture won't always work out, is she cool / sweet / vivacious / sexy / good in bed / fun etc. Not to mention the use of very cherry picked / airbrushed / old photos can lead you astray. My last visit to FaseII there was one with the biggest T&A you could imagine, almost did a session with her before I saw Estrella who was hot & fun. But no silicone. (not that I care, I just want them to be hot, how they got that way I don't care).The Tall Mans rule at Fase Dos or the other upscale clubs is to always always always try them out on-site and then ONLY if you feel the grove do you plan to see her outside. Every time I do not follow this rule it simply does not turn out well.

Live and learn!

TTM.

Surf Looker
01-18-18, 01:19
https://www.xvideos.com/video24482969/lina_herrera

Xvideos Lina Herrera.

What is she saying exactly.


The pix you posted looks so sexy, but when I checked her photos at the FB link you gave, I got simply scared. NO WAY I would welcome such a silicone monster in my bed. I did not try

TV yet, and for the moment I still do not feel attraction.

Surf Looker
01-18-18, 01:25
Yes this true amigo. But feel like sessions are better in hotel or apt. Not RUSHED. And these chicas want to get on to the next guy.

Yes true. They can be bad in apt too.

Also costs. You can make better deal price right. With girl from Fas Dos to meet at hotel or apt then having sessions with her.

At Fas Dos, Luna, SD or whatever strips club name.

Entry Fee, sessions on site, time, 30-45 minutes? One pop = how much.

Yes I guess you can go not session Pay entry fee and get contact numbers but then you waste half the night hmmm.


I think you may have answered your own question. Go to FaseII and pick out the one you like the most (they usually will have some with really big tits / ass) do a session with her on site, if you click get her number and arrange a date before / after work or on her day off.

Picking girls by just the picture won't always work out, is she cool / sweet / vivacious / sexy / good in bed / fun etc. Not to mention the use of very cherry picked / airbrushed / old photos can lead you astray. My last visit to FaseII there was one with the biggest T&A you could imagine, almost did a session with her before I saw Estrella who was hot & fun. But no silicone. (not that I care, I just want them to be hot, how they got that way I don't care).

JjBee62
01-18-18, 01:35
I too have to defend El Centro. I stayed at the Hotel Bortero Medellin, right behind the Nutibarra, 12/26-12/31/17. Could not have had a better time. Met up with a couple of other gringos & had a great time. Very chica friendly hotel, right across the street from Yakusa, 1 1/2 block from Conejitos & another strip club / dance bar, right around the corner from Maraciabo & whatever the other strip bar is. Plenty of restaurants, parques & museos if you want to call yourself a cultural tourist. Taxis galore, Uber, the green & white bus to & from the airport stops less than 100 yds from the front of the HBM. Never had much trouble day or night. Walked to Conejitas at night several times. Walked around Botero Plaza at night several times. No problems. This was 9 or 10 pm Not 2 or 3 am Anytime I wanted to use my phone for directions or whatever, I ducked into a tienda, church or went & stood by one of the 100 or so cops in Parque Bolivar or Plaza Bortero. An ounce of prevention guys.I spent 1.5 hours Sunday and about 4.5 hours today walking El Centro. Sunday and the last 1.5 hours today I was walking alone. No destination, just walking, although we did stop at one casa today. Much of my time was spent west of the metro between Prado and San Antonio stations.

Sure there are ugly areas and there's always a few people with bad intentions. But they're looking for victims. They rarely glance my way and then look away. They're looking for the cargo shorts and flip flops guy wandering around trying to find some address while walking with their phone out. They're looking for the guys who look like they're about to crap their pants. Don't be that guy.

Why go there? Besides all the culture, the people there are real. In Poblado are the soulless clones trying to impress each other with their own importance. El Centro people are unfiltered. Then there's all the eye candy. No matter what type appeals to you, she's there, leaning in a doorway. There are 50 or more bars, including at least 3 little strip clubs where girls are hanging out waiting. For a step up there's all the casas as well.

If you're only interested in gringo food and overpriced drinks, stick with Lleras. If you want the real experience, you'll find it in El Centro.

Blue Touch
01-18-18, 02:15
In comparison to robberies in el centro, which could happen with relatively low possibilities, having to deal with the mass of lower class people all the time in centro is more significant negative factor. They do not have the social manner / etiquette in the West. They hit and push each other when they walk and they stand on your way and block you. They say or do racist / sexist things. They follow and ridicule ethnic minorities or foreign women when they walk alone. I have never seen them embarrassed for anything they do. They have very thick skin.


Medellin is a very safe city but I wouldn't stay in centro. A lot of homeless and druggys. There are a lot of nice areas I agree with the laurales suggestion. It's a very nice area and not touristy. If you want the full experience though stay in Lleras.

Have fun. It's a great place.

Knowledge
01-18-18, 02:44
There is a casa that shows guys a book of girls and then orders them up. It's pretty unique. All the others in Centro are "walk ins welcome".


Went to a casa east Carrera 46st. Last night a little before 7 and the guy said reservation only. With the casa / houses do you have to call text ahead of time?

Also do 30 min / hour sessions in Medellin already include multiple cumming?

SavePros321
01-18-18, 03:56
https://www.xvideos.com/video24482969/lina_herrera

Xvideos Lina Herrera.

What is she saying exactly.She is begging to drink Rum. And tequila.

Black Page
01-18-18, 10:56
What did you see that I am not seeing??
El Mechanico.I did not say she is a TV and has a third leg folded back. I meant she LOOKS a TV, because of her fake monster ass and face in the photos she posted on her FB. The TVs who work in the street near where I live look the same, some even prettier.
In the video, she looks much better and sexier, however. Maybe she has to change the photographer, not the surgeon.

JjBee62
01-18-18, 15:51
Went to a casa east Carrera 46st. Last night a little before 7 and the guy said reservation only. With the casa / houses do you have to call text ahead of time?

Also do 30 min / hour sessions in Medellin already include multiple cumming?Which casa? Carreras run north and south. East of Carrera 46 there are about 10 casas (according to the list) and there's one casa on Carrera 46.

Many of the casas, including the one on Carrera 46, close at 7 pm. If you show up when they are about to close, they aren't going to be ready to let you in.

You can offer the guy a sizable tip, 20 k minimum, to show you a lineup, or go earlier in the afternoon.

El Mechanico
01-18-18, 16:53
I did not say she is a TV and has a third leg folded back. I meant she LOOKS a TV, because of her fake monster ass and face in the photos she posted on her FB. The TVs who work in the street near where I live look the same, some even prettier.
In the video, she looks much better and sexier, however. Maybe she has to change the photographer, not the surgeon.Ok, I understand, thanks.

El Mechanico.

JjBee62
01-18-18, 23:29
In comparison to robberies in el centro, which could happen with relatively low possibilities, having to deal with the mass of lower class people all the time in centro is more significant negative factor. They do not have the social manner / etiquette in the West. They hit and push each other when they walk and they stand on your way and block you. They say or do racist / sexist things. They follow and ridicule ethnic minorities or foreign women when they walk alone. I have never seen them embarrassed for anything they do. They have very thick skin.I guess I missed that part of El Centro. Spent another 2 hours there today and didn't see or hear anything like you describe. Sure people bump into you. The streets and sidewalks are often packed. A certain amount of bumping is unavoidable. In all the time I've spent in El Centro I've never seen anyone deliberately hit or shove someone. I've also never seen someone deliberately blocking me. I've been blocked by people paying attention to their phone or having a conversation, but that happens just as often in El Poblado.

Can you describe how a Colombian does a racist thing? I can figure out saying racist things, but doing? This part has me baffled. The Colombian gene pool is so mixed that many families, even more so with the lower classes, have a very broad range of skin colors and racial characteristics. They'll refer to each other as "negrita" or "blanquita", but it's not considered any type of insult or racial slur here. Same with "gordita" or "flakita. " Racism in general is very rare here, except with a few of the upper class families. Every Colombian I've talked with about this has been unable to understand the concept of racism. They know it exists in other countries, but they don't know why.

Sexist remarks. No problem there. I've seen this a lot. I've had taxi drivers, honk, whistle and yell at women on the sidewalk. I've seen plenty of Colombians turning to stare at women. I've seen more of that behavior in Poblado than El Centro.

Overall I've found the people in El Centro to be nicer, more polite and better to be around than the people in El Poblado. I've walked most of the streets worth walking in El Poblado and I'm working on doing the same in El Centro. In another few months I hope to know every street worth knowing downtown.

El Centro isn't for everyone. It's especially not for anyone who thinks low income Colombians are more racist than high income north Americans or Europeans. It's not for the timid. It's not for the tourist who thinks being a tourist makes him better than the natives. It's not for the let's get drunk and party tourist. It's not for the "this watch cost me $15,000" guy.

Figure out what you're looking for in Medellin and then figure out where you need to go to find it.

VickyRai
01-19-18, 12:33
For a non Spanish speaker like me, what are the spanish words for following:

BBBJ.

CIM.

Anal.

Rimming.

Kiss on lips.

MSOG.

Also should I clarify the services offered prior to booking them thru facebook or these are all standard?

Blue Touch
01-19-18, 16:59
The people there are respectful and often humble to the foreigners who are white and / or old people. Your experience, therefore cognition of the society, could be different based on demographic group you belong to. This applies to your country as well.


I guess I missed that part of El Centro. Spent another 2 hours there today and didn't see or hear anything like you describe. Sure people bump into you. The streets and sidewalks are often packed. A certain amount of bumping is unavoidable. In all the time I've spent in El Centro I've never seen anyone deliberately hit or shove someone. I've also never seen someone deliberately blocking me. I've been blocked by people paying attention to their phone or having a conversation, but that happens just as often in El Poblado.

Can you describe how a Colombian does a racist thing? I can figure out saying racist things, but doing? This part has me baffled. The Colombian gene pool is so mixed that many families, even more so with the lower classes, have a very broad range of skin colors and racial characteristics. They'll refer to each other as "negrita" or "blanquita", but it's not considered any type of insult or racial slur here. Same with "gordita" or "flakita. " Racism in general is very rare here, except with a few of the upper class families. Every Colombian I've talked with about this has been unable to understand the concept of racism. They know it exists in other countries, but they don't know why.

Sexist remarks. No problem there. I've seen this a lot. I've had taxi drivers, honk, whistle and yell at women on the sidewalk. I've seen plenty of Colombians turning to stare at women. I've seen more of that behavior in Poblado than El Centro..

JjBee62
01-19-18, 18:19
The people there are respectful and often humble to the foreigners who are white and / or old people. Your experience, therefore cognition of the society, could be different based on demographic group you belong to. This applies to your country as well.Humble? Have you been to Colombia? Seriously, have you been to Colombia? Humble certainly isn't the first word to pop in my head to describe Colombians. They tend to be more brash than humble. Even more so in the poorer neighborhoods. That's their home. They might not have much, but they do have their pride.

Are you saying, if an old, white guy (who doesn't look that old or white from 25 feet away) is walking half a block away, the Colombians in El Centro will suddenly stop shoving people and making racist remarks? How do they know I'm there? Quite often they're facing the other direction? Yes, I'm looking that far ahead because problems are easier to deal with when they aren't in your face.

I can understand having concerns about El Centro. I can understand not liking the area. As I've said, it's not for everyone. What I can't understand is trying to reinvent the entire population just to support your own prejudice.

If you don't want to go to El Centro, don't go. I don't recommend it for anyone I don't know, unless I'm going with them. But stop making up stories about the people there.

Mr Enternational
01-19-18, 20:09
Racism in general is very rare here, except with a few of the upper class families. Every Colombian I've talked with about this has been unable to understand the concept of racism. They know it exists in other countries, but they don't know why.I do not know who you have talked to but it is not rare at all. You might say overt racism is rare, but it definitely exists in other forms.

My girlfriend is white and I am black. She frequently talks about racism. She has a 9 year old daughter with a black guy. She tells me about how her father is racist and at first did not want to have anything to do with her daughter and still asks her why she can not just find a white guy.

One day I was chatting with my girl while she was on the bus going home from work. She said that she is not racist but black people display the mannerisms that BT described in his post. I think there was a guy shoving to get on the bus or something. She said that she didn't understand why black people were so rude. Like Jj, I will add that I have never witnessed this type of thing in Colombia either. Maybe I am just too busy eye-fucking all the women.

Also two nights ago we were waiting for our Uber in front of the mall in Bogota. She started talking about her work at an energy company and how one of her coworkers posed the question as to why there were only 2 blacks working there. They attributed it to racism. I said before anything you have to answer the question as to whether blacks even apply for jobs at the company.

So although us as foreigners may not witness it, racism definitely exists in Colombia. Kind of reminds me of how since forever one group in my country had talked about police brutality, but people from another group could not believe it because their contact with the police had always been much different. Now with video cameras and cell phone cameras people are just starting to believe that maybe those people were telling the truth the whole time.

Dickhead
01-19-18, 21:59
For a non Spanish speaker like me, what are the spanish words for following:

BBBJ.

Chúpame sin condón

CIM.

Terminar en la boca

Anal.

Completo or la cola

Rimming.

No clue.

Kiss on lips.

Besos con labios or for tongue kissing, besos con lengua

MSOG.

Terminar más de una vez

Also should I clarify the services offered prior to booking them thru facebook or these are all standard?Clarify everything. There is no standard. But they will just say yes to everything when booking and then do what they feel like when you actually see them.

Combo
01-19-18, 23:07
Racism absolutely exists in Colombia. The Afro-Colombian communities in the coastal areas, especially the Pacific coast, have been marginalized for generations.

Of course this has virtually no relevance to us hobbyists visiting Colombia. A hot 20 year old Paisa is quite happy to take your donation for a fun time, regardless of what color you are. In fact, as a marketing ploy, they will likely tell you that your race (whatever it is) happens to be their favorite!

BlueChange
01-20-18, 03:55
For a non Spanish speaker like me, what are the spanish words for following:

BBBJ.

CIM.

Anal.

Rimming.

Kiss on lips.

MSOG.

Also should I clarify the services offered prior to booking them thru facebook or these are all standard?BBBJ. = Oral Naturale.

CIM. = Leche en tu boca.

Anal. = en tu culo.

Rimming. You or her?

Kiss on lips. They ALL kiss on the lips, don't ask just do it.

MSOG. Dos or mas final feliz".

BlueChange
01-20-18, 03:56
Anyone seen a really really skinny blond paisa. Mole on her face and gives amazing oral.

I forgot her name, maybe Lusia, Laura or Carolyne. If anyone has seen her, let me know. What was your expereince / Talk to me.

Wolf662
01-20-18, 19:11
Anyone seen a really really skinny blond paisa. Mole on her face and gives amazing oral.

I forgot her name, maybe Lusia, Laura or Carolyne. If anyone has seen her, let me know. What was your expereince / Talk to me.Might help if you gave some more info. Casa girl? Stripper? Prepago? Mansion girl? Centro street chick? Mayorista girl?

BlueChange
01-20-18, 21:17
Might help if you gave some more info. Casa girl? Stripper? Prepago? Mansion girl? Centro street chick? Mayorista girl?Milerotics Girl. Maybe was with an agency.

DrMcNaughty
01-20-18, 23:47
I never can resist a skinny spinner! Yes buddy.


Anyone seen a really really skinny blond paisa. Mole on her face and gives amazing oral.

I forgot her name, maybe Lusia, Laura or Carolyne. If anyone has seen her, let me know. What was your expereince / Talk to me.

ColombiaLover
01-21-18, 05:14
As stated, nothing is necessarily standard. So always ask. Some girls do not even want to take off their top! Jejeje.

But a couple of generalities. I have not found anal to be overly common. At least not without a lot of discussion and probably an up-charge. Even then, many (most?) will not do it. Some get squirly with just a finger probing the bunghole.

Girls can also be uptight about kissing. Most all understand they need to kiss on the mouth. But that does not mean they will be into it. And many do not want French kissing. Mouth will be tightly closed. So ask about this also. I have had some great kissers. And then some who are really bad.

CIM. Again, need to ask. Some will not do it. Preferring cum on their tits or ass or stomach. I have had some girls who prefer cum in their pussy to cum in their mouth!


BBBJ. = Oral Naturale.

CIM. = Leche en tu boca.

Anal. = en tu culo.

Rimming. You or her?

Kiss on lips. They ALL kiss on the lips, don't ask just do it.

MSOG. Dos or mas final feliz".

Pilot3592
01-21-18, 05:18
The posted rate is 65 k from the airport to Medellin. Currently, you'll get roughly 2850 pesos per dollar.You were right on the money with taxi in exchange many thanks.

I was charged 80,000 to return to the airport from the same location I paid 65 to arrive. Is the return trip to the airport typically more expensive? No worries either way just curious if I paid more than I should have.

Surf Looker
01-21-18, 05:29
Amigos any experience with these chicas.

I think mansions girl si?

https://www.facebook.com/meellissa.galeeanoblandonn.7

https://www.facebook.com/vaneciagutierrez

ColombiaLover
01-21-18, 17:57
From where in Medellin? Poblado?

If from Poblado, the fare should be 50 mil. I have a regular driver (white taxi) and he charges me 65 mil from the airport and 50 mil to the airport. Tell ms that this is the price and I should never pay more. I use him all of the time. If for some reason he is busy, he sends one of his white taxi friends and they charge me the same amount.


You were right on the money with taxi in exchange many thanks.

I was charged 80,000 to return to the airport from the same location I paid 65 to arrive. Is the return trip to the airport typically more expensive? No worries either way just curious if I paid more than I should have.

Knowledge
01-21-18, 18:00
My one word response: Uber.


From where in Medellin? Poblado?

If from Poblado, the fare should be 50 mil. I have a regular driver (white taxi) and he charges me 65 mil from the airport and 50 mil to the airport. Tell ms that this is the price and I should never pay more. I use him all of the time. If for some reason he is busy, he sends one of his white taxi friends and they charge me the same amount.

Knowledge
01-21-18, 18:02
She sounds good on papaer.


Milerotics Girl. Maybe was with an agency.

Mr Enternational
01-21-18, 19:22
I was charged 80,000 to return to the airport from the same location I paid 65 to arrive. Is the return trip to the airport typically more expensive? No worries either way just curious if I paid more than I should have.I have never been to a place where it costs more going back to the airport than it does leaving the airport. I would say you were stiffed.

TechnoIT
01-21-18, 22:33
Once I arrive to town and get to my hotel, what is the advise here. I speak perfect Spanish, so what is the advise on how to find smoking girls?

Knowledge
01-21-18, 22:35
There is usually a set fee, isn't there? I happen to know that is the case in Medellin at least.


I have never been to a place where it costs more going back to the airport than it does leaving the airport. I would say you were stiffed.

Wolf662
01-22-18, 02:04
Once I arrive to town and get to my hotel, what is the advise here. I speak perfect Spanish, so what is the advise on how to find smoking girls?In the day you have your choice of online escorts like:

https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin

And daytime "Casa's" or brothels. New Life and Energy the 2 more popular ones. Most downtown. There are also several outdoor markets like Mayorista or Centro Vera Cruz downtown. Past 5 ish you'll have downtown strip club brothels like Conejitas or Barra Ejectiva, past 9 you'll have the higher end strip clubs like FaseII and La Islas.

http://www.clubfasedos.com/

For a 1/2 HR overview of the Medellin scene watch the vid on this page:

https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/

(about a min and half musical intro to the vid).

Knowledge
01-22-18, 02:20
Start by reading the forum. Your post suggests you haven't.


Once I arrive to town and get to my hotel, what is the advise here. I speak perfect Spanish, so what is the advise on how to find smoking girls?

JjBee62
01-22-18, 05:23
Once I arrive to town and get to my hotel, what is the advise here. I speak perfect Spanish, so what is the advise on how to find smoking girls?You'll find smoking girls outside of buildings or walking down the streets. There are plenty of cigarette vendors also walking the streets. You might just follow one and see who buys cigarettes. Colombia doesn't allow smoking in most buildings.

Or were you trying to ask how to find women in Medellin? That's like announcing you're at the beach but don't know how to find the sand.

Kazeu
01-22-18, 12:31
Really simple. Read the past posts in this forum and do what other people have done.


Once I arrive to town and get to my hotel, what is the advise here. I speak perfect Spanish, so what is the advise on how to find smoking girls?

Pilot3592
01-22-18, 18:44
From where in Medellin? Poblado?

If from Poblado, the fare should be 50 mil. I have a regular driver (white taxi) and he charges me 65 mil from the airport and 50 mil to the airport. Tell ms that this is the price and I should never pay more. I use him all of the time. If for some reason he is busy, he sends one of his white taxi friends and they charge me the same amount.Departed from the Mansion.

Pilot3592
01-22-18, 18:46
I have never been to a place where it costs more going back to the airport than it does leaving the airport. I would say you were stiffed.My same thought but I am only on my second trip which is why I am checking. Trip three on the radar.

El Mechanico
01-23-18, 01:21
Departed from the Mansion.Mansion Taxistas always charge more because, well, you stayed at the mansion, so you have money!

El Mechanico.

Knowledge
01-23-18, 02:18
That's a fair point. Every price I've ever seen. For everything. Having to do with the place is way above market rates. I'm all for it if it's a happy place for some.


Mansion Taxistas always charge more because, well, you stayed at the mansion, so you have money!

El Mechanico.

Pilot3592
01-23-18, 03:48
Mansion Taxistas always charge more because, well, you stayed at the mansion, so you have money!

El Mechanico.Yep did not think of that one. I considered no tip but I did anyway. Then I started to second-guess and wonder if they expect a tip.

Maxonaut
01-23-18, 17:57
Dear gentlemen!

Yes, I read many sites back, couln't found what I was hoping for. First the Q, where to stay? As I figured out here an with google Envigado, Laureles and the most recommended area El Poblado.

Q: do you regard, what to prefer (to come to sights and chicas during day and night with notch too long taxi drive).

Should I take El Poblado, should be easy there and of course most expensive? But, if I want to go out at night, for some beer, looking around and perhaps find an attractive girl.

Thank you for help in advance and I hope I will be allouwed to ask more at the next weeks?

Thanks.

Max.

JjBee62
01-23-18, 18:21
Yep did not think of that one. I considered no tip but I did anyway. Then I started to second-guess and wonder if they expect a tip.My experience is that most taxistas don't expect a tip. Several have tried to return a tip to me. Another experience, if someone recommends a taxi, the price will be higher than getting a taxi on your own.

Dickhead
01-24-18, 06:14
BBBJ. = Oral Naturale.You must be Italian.


CIM. = Leche en tu boca.That would work.


Anal. = en tu culo.That is rather rude, but might get the point across.


Kiss on lips. They ALL kiss on the lips, don't ask just do it.An aggressive stance. No, they don't all do it and 'don't ask, just do it' is similar to are a p e.


MSOG. Dos or mas final feliz".Pretty bad Spanish there and if that would even be understood, it should be 'dos o más finales felices. '.

Dickhead
01-24-18, 06:17
Departed from the Mansion.So that explains why you paid more. Let me guess. The 'Mansion' arranged this for you = bend over. Right?

Dickhead
01-24-18, 06:20
Yep did not think of that one. I considered no tip but I did anyway. Then I started to second-guess and wonder if they expect a tip.If they expect in one hand and shit in their other hand, which would fill up first? What is the point of negotiating a price and then giving a tip? Did they give you 'extra special' service? Like they took to a special place in a special airport in a special car?

JjBee62
01-24-18, 14:20
As part of my continuing effort to map out El Centro I spent another 2 hours walking the streets yesterday. This time I stayed west of the metro line. Here's a list of all the street locations where I found working girls along with a couple of strip clubs that I don't think are on the map. Use at your own risk. Shorts and flip flops are not recommended.

Starting point is at Parque Berrio station.

Cross to the Palacio de La Cultura and enter Botero Plaza on the north side. Head west towards Museo de Antioquia. In front of the Museum, turn left. There are a few more statues and you'll probably see a few working girls, more so on the right side. Continue south until you reach the white church, Iglesia de la Veracruz. Turn right into the alley alongside the church. This is Calle 51. There are working girls leaning against the church, a pretty scary looking bunch.

At the corner of Carrera 53 they'll start looking better. Turn right on Carrera 53 (north). The heaviest concentration of girls are in this block. Lots of girls on both sides up to Calle 52. If you turn left at Calle 52, there's a large parking lot on the right. Usually a small group of girls there. This area is a bit sketchy. The better path is to stay on Carrera 53, cross Calle 53 and turn left, down to Carrera 54. You'll find working girls on Carrera 54 for half a block north of Calle 53. These girls tend to be larger and older.

If you continue on Carrera 54 to Calle 54, turn right and go to Carrera 53 and Calle 54 there are a lot of bars on both sides of Carrera 53 and Carrera 52 A. Most of the bars have a few working girls sitting inside. Carrera 52 A is mostly a farmer's market on the east side and bars on the west side.

Additional strip clubs.

Taberna Victoria. Calle 53 #52 A-26. This is half a block west of Conejitas.

Grill Occidental. Carrera 52 #53-158. This is a long block north of Conejitas.

Blue Touch
01-24-18, 23:58
The quality of street girls in centro is mostly lower than even the quality of casa girls. It is not worth the time and danger. A few guys said that they found hidden gems. But when I saw their pics, I did not think so.


As part of my continuing effort to map out El Centro I spent another 2 hours walking the streets yesterday. This time I stayed west of the metro line. Here's a list of all the street locations where I found working girls along with a couple of strip clubs that I don't think are on the map. Use at your own risk. Shorts and flip flops are not recommended.

Starting point is at Parque Berrio station.

Cross to the Palacio de La Cultura and enter Botero Plaza on the north side. Head west towards Museo de Antioquia. In front of the Museum, turn left. There are a few more statues and you'll probably see a few working girls, more so on the right side. Continue south until you reach the white church, Iglesia de la Veracruz. Turn right into the alley alongside the church. This is Calle 51. There are working girls leaning against the church, a pretty scary looking bunch..

JjBee62
01-25-18, 01:46
The quality of street girls in centro is mostly lower than even the quality of casa girls. It is not worth the time and danger. A few guys said that they found hidden gems. But when I saw their pics, I did not think so.I have spent about 10 hours a week over the past few weeks walking those streets and many others that are well off the beaten path. I haven't seen any danger, especially not on those streets. There are too many people. Guys stabbing and shooting people are bad for business. That's what everyone is doing, taking care of their business.

As for looks, the average for streetwalkers and casa girls is about the same. However, the casas have fewer at the top and bottom of the scale. In other words you'll find a lot of average looking chicas in the casas along with a few hot ones and a few ugly ones. On the streets you'll find everything from fat grannies to probably too young hotties. You'll find everything from 1 to 10. I rarely walk through without spotting at least 1 who I'd rank as 8 or higher.

You're basing your impressions without ever going there. That's fine, except you're trying to influence others about something you don't know anything about. While I may be wrong about many things, I see things with my own eyes instead of letting others decide for me.

ColombiaLover
01-25-18, 03:45
To each his own, but I agree. For the most part, when I have seen fotos of centro chicas, I have not been impressed. I'd rather pay a few more pesos for something better. Maybe there are some real hotties out there that we have not seen. But if they are very hot and walking the street, I suspect there must be a reason. One that I probably would not like.


The quality of street girls in centro is mostly lower than even the quality of casa girls. It is not worth the time and danger. A few guys said that they found hidden gems. But when I saw their pics, I did not think so.

PaisaPorFavor
01-25-18, 04:41
I don't know if I would call them gems but I'm pretty picky and found a few spinners to my liking down there.


To each his own, but I agree. For the most part, when I have seen fotos of centro chicas, I have not been impressed. I'd rather pay a few more pesos for something better. Maybe there are some real hotties out there that we have not seen. But if they are very hot and walking the street, I suspect there must be a reason. One that I probably would not like.

Fuller Up
01-25-18, 08:48
I'm planning the bachelor party for a lifelong friend, and it's looking like we're doing Medellin. The plan is to fly in from the States on a Wednesday or Thursday night in mid-May, and then fly back the following Sunday. The group of us, about eight guys, are likely going to rent a nice apartment or two in the Parque Lleras area. I'm hoping to get some advice on a couple things.

1) We'll likely head out to clubs and bars at night, with the hope of meeting groups of fun, social, young non-working girls who are up for hanging out and, if we're lucky, hooking up. Any suggestions on this front as far as venues and tactics? Is there any sense in reaching out to cute girls on social media in advance of our trip?

2) We all know that a night on the town doesn't always go as planned, especially when you're a group of foreign guys with limited Spanish who are trying to meet non-working girls, so I want to make sure we have a backup plan with paid girls lined up to come back to our apartment for whoever wants to partake. I've started reading through the archives, but if anyone has specific advice for our situation, I'm all ears.

I'd be grateful for any other suggestions and tips that folks have. (Including links to any posts, articles, or websites that I should make sure to check out while doing my research.) I'm hoping to make this a great send off for my buddy.

Thanks in advance!

IamLookin
01-25-18, 13:38
When a girl gives you a price plus taxi fare. What should the expected amount be for the cab ?Thanks.

Montani
01-25-18, 16:52
When a girl gives you a price plus taxi fare. What should the expected amount be for the cab ?Thanks.If you want to be generous, 20 Mil, about 7 bucks max. Don't let them tell you it is something like 50 mil.

Montani
01-25-18, 16:56
Just got a report from a friend in Medellin last night. Police in Parque Lleras were shaking down anyone with an open container of alcohol.

Montani
01-25-18, 17:13
I'm planning the bachelor party for a lifelong friend, and it's looking like we're doing Medellin. The plan is to fly in from the States on a Wednesday or Thursday night in mid-May, and then fly back the following Sunday. The group of us, about eight guys, are likely going to rent a nice apartment or two in the Parque Lleras area. I'm hoping to get some advice on a couple things.

1) We'll likely head out to clubs and bars at night, with the hope of meeting groups of fun, social, young non-working girls who are up for hanging out and, if we're lucky, hooking up. Any suggestions on this front as far as venues and tactics? Is there any sense in reaching out to cute girls on social media in advance of our trip?

2) We all know that a night on the town doesn't always go as planned, especially when you're a group of foreign guys with limited Spanish who are trying to meet non-working girls, so I want to make sure we have a backup plan with paid girls lined up to come back to our apartment for whoever wants to partake. I've started reading through the archives, but if anyone has specific advice for our situation, I'm all ears.

I'd be grateful for any other suggestions and tips that folks have. (Including links to any posts, articles, or websites that I should make sure to check out while doing my research.) I'm hoping to make this a great send off for my buddy.

Thanks in advance!Allow me to break it to you gently. You and your buddies are going to spend a lot of money on plane tickets, housing, food and drink, ect. AND you're only going to be there a few days.

And you think / hope that you might "get lucky" and find some pretty non pro girls, in Lleras no less, that will blue, screw and tattoo you for FREE. Do I have that right? Did anyone ever explain to you that FREE pussy is the most expensive pussy in the world? Do yourself a favor and forget about that. Sure, go ahead and make contacts on social media, that's a good idea. But just resign yourself to the fact that you cannot afford FREE pussy. And, after meeting up with some Little Darlings that have been properly compensated for their time, take some photos of the Groom with some of the Little Darlings, and send them to his Bride, and, if he "gets lucky", She may call off the wedding. Better yet, bust the Groom upside his head with a sock full of nickels and leave him in Medellin. You did say you're his friend, right? Make some Casa runs too while you're at it. Free pussy, please.

Blue Touch
01-25-18, 17:13
I know and have stayed at the Botero area since 2004. Thanks.

S


I have spent about 10 hours a week over the past few weeks walking those streets and many others that are well off the beaten path. I haven't seen any danger, especially not on those streets. There are too many people. Guys stabbing and shooting people are bad for business. That's what everyone is doing, taking care of their business.

As for looks, the average for streetwalkers and casa girls is about the same. However, the casas have fewer at the top and bottom of the scale. In other words you'll find a lot of average looking chicas in the casas along with a few hot ones and a few ugly ones. On the streets you'll find everything from fat grannies to probably too young hotties. You'll find everything from 1 to 10. I rarely walk through without spotting at least 1 who I'd rank as 8 or higher..

Dickhead
01-25-18, 18:15
if anyone has specific advice for our situationLearn Spanish real fast or stay home.

Mr Enternational
01-25-18, 18:58
1) We'll likely head out to clubs and bars at night, with the hope of meeting groups of fun, social, young non-working girls who are up for hanging out and, if we're lucky, hooking up.Montani broke it to you gently, now I will break it to you hard. Colombians usually go out in groups of friends (mixed guys and girls) to enjoy their friends, not to meet people. 8 foreign guys to go out and meet 8 Colombian chicks that are bout it bout it and not hookers, you would have better luck trying to find Tupac. If any fool gets married after going to Medellin, then he is definitely a fool and deserves to be married.

YippieKayay
01-25-18, 19:20
Montani broke it to you gently, now I will break it to you hard. Colombians usually go out in groups of friends (mixed guys and girls) to enjoy their friends, not to meet people. 8 foreign guys to go out and meet 8 Colombian chicks that are bout it bout it and not hookers, you would have better luck trying to find Tupac. If any fool gets married after going to Medellin, then he is definitely a fool and deserves to be married.He's better off going to Cartagena. At least 2/3 women out at night are hookers and him and his buddies will get laid.

Blue Touch
01-25-18, 21:03
Well-said.


Montani broke it to you gently, now I will break it to you hard. Colombians usually go out in groups of friends (mixed guys and girls) to enjoy their friends, not to meet people. 8 foreign guys to go out and meet 8 Colombian chicks that are bout it bout it and not hookers, you would have better luck trying to find Tupac. If any fool gets married after going to Medellin, then he is definitely a fool and deserves to be married.

HornyBri2544
01-25-18, 23:40
Just got a report from a friend in Medellin last night. Police in Parque Lleras were shaking down anyone with an open container of alcohol.I observed the police shaking down working girls trying to get with foreign men.

Wolf662
01-26-18, 00:37
The quality of street girls in centro is mostly lower than even the quality of casa girls. It is not worth the time and danger..I feel safer in the Veracruz redlight block then I do in the semi-deserted neighborhoods around New Life and the other casa's in that area.

Wolf662
01-26-18, 00:40
Maybe there are some real hotties out there that we have not seen. But if they are very hot and walking the street, I suspect there must be a reason. One that I probably would not like.I imagine the biggest reason is they want to keep all the money they make and not share it with some Casa owner and have their own schedule and rules.

BlueChange
01-26-18, 01:02
Anyone seen this chick Agata what is from VNZ.

I'm just curious if the face is good or if she went to the Dr surgery chop shop and has those super fake collegen lips: blaaah:

https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/agata-estoy-super-caliente-ven-y-disfruta/9709046/

Fun Luvr
01-26-18, 01:34
When a girl gives you a price plus taxi fare. What should the expected amount be for the cab ?Thanks.Many of the ladies live in Bello. A taxi from there to the Parque Lleras area is approximately 25 mil. If it's between 4 and 6 pm, the fare will be more because they will be stuck in traffic. Almost always, I pay the taxi driver when they arrive. If the lady pays the taxi or whatever other transportation she uses, I give her 20 mil.

Knowledge
01-26-18, 02:54
Try uber, you get an estimate up front and you get to see the route taken and the destination address.


Many of the ladies live in Bello. A taxi from there to the Parque Lleras area is approximately 25 mil. If it's between 4 and 6 pm, the fare will be more because they will be stuck in traffic. Almost always, I pay the taxi driver when they arrive. If the lady pays the taxi or whatever other transportation she uses, I give her 20 mil.

SBeach25
01-26-18, 03:29
Just got a report from a friend in Medellin last night. Police in Parque Lleras were shaking down anyone with an open container of alcohol.This has been going on for a while. They have been relaxed during the holidays but now back to business.

SBeach25
01-26-18, 03:33
Learn Spanish real fast or stay home.Unless your going to hire a guide. Expect to be a big let down on the non-pro with no spanish. I recommend going with the pros. Work out a deal for their time. Good luck.

DrMcNaughty
01-26-18, 03:50
Hot Colombian that is also a naughty naughty girl. Go tip her a bit and you will have a guide and a hot hot girl to pound! 5-6 110 all natural and she doesn't have that gnarly Colombian badonkadonk ass! Love to party on the white lines side of road too.


Allow me to break it to you gently. You and your buddies are going to spend a lot of money on plane tickets, housing, food and drink, ect. AND you're only going to be there a few days.

And you think / hope that you might "get lucky" and find some pretty non pro girls, in Lleras no less, that will blue, screw and tattoo you for FREE. Do I have that right? Did anyone ever explain to you that FREE pussy is the most expensive pussy in the world? Do yourself a favor and forget about that. Sure, go ahead and make contacts on social media, that's a good idea. But just resign yourself to the fact that you cannot afford FREE pussy. And, after meeting up with some Little Darlings that have been properly compensated for their time, take some photos of the Groom with some of the Little Darlings, and send them to his Bride, and, if he "gets lucky", She may call off the wedding. Better yet, bust the Groom upside his head with a sock full of nickels and leave him in Medellin. You did say you're his friend, right? Make some Casa runs too while you're at it. Free pussy, please.
Learn Spanish real fast or stay home.

Xxnegrito
01-26-18, 04:50
I stayed at the Marcos Delicias Hotel $35 K COP per night, I was there Friday and Saturday, both very busy days with lots of girls to choose from, there were even 2 pregnant girls one white one black, the black girl short and skinny besides her tummy. Since I checked in early at 12 noon, the selection was poor, it usually gets better around 7 or 8 pm, so I waited, I killed the time at the bar that's right below the hotel, the guy there knows me and always plays the music I ask, there was this older German that resides in Florida, we started talking about Medellin and the girls, just killing time, the 2 pregnant girls kept walking from the corner where we were to the middle of the block to where the outside tables are set up, the black girl kept smiling at me, kinda cute but that was not what I was looking for, I was hoping to find Dulce the cute Venezolana that usually stands about 2 door frames past the Hotel La Amistad, but she was no show. After my 4th beer I went upstairs to take a nap and call Estefany my regular flaquita that never disappointed, I set up an appointment for 10 pm and she promised she can stay at least 4 hours, I slept for about 2 hours, at around 6 pm I went downstairs this time I sat down at one the tables out side, there were more girls and I couldn't keep my eyes off this cute flaca, medium height, black hair to her neck, she had a couple of tats that made her look sexy, she comes over to my table and we start talking, she is a Psychology major at the Universidad she does this to makes end meet, her name is Adriana she has thin legs and a bubble but, very nice personality, we agree on $50 K for 1 hour in my room, we go up, she loves to talk and we have a very nice time talking about me and her, turns our she was engaged to a Saudi national who broke off the engagement because she had too much baggage, while we talk we get naked laughing and joking around, she has tiny titties and pussy, really cute, she doesn't drink so even though I have bottle of 8 year aged rum she passes on my drink offer, while she talks I lie her on her back open her legs and start DATY she begins moaning, we get on a 69 position, she puts the condom on and gives me a CBJ, nice and slow then deep throats me, it feels so good I tell her to slow down, I don't want to nut so quickly, I lay on my back she rides me Cowgirl, we change to Reverse Cowgirl, such a nice asshole, I ask if she does Anal she says no, we change to Missionary, I grab her legs and open her wide, and ride her hard till I cum. She cleans me up and showers, then changes, gives me a peck on my cheek and leaves, she stayed a little past the hour and never mentioned the time.

I decide to order dinner from the hotel, I order Punta de Anca (basically steak) with fries and salad $12 K, I give the guy $15 K he leaves happy with his tip, I go downstairs and got 2 beers for $5 K, finish my meal, lay in the bed watching porn for the remainder of the time till Estefany shows up, Late as all Paisas are used to at 11 pm instead of 10 pm like we agreed. I get a call from the front desk that she is at the lobby, I tell the girl to let her go up, she shows up in a tiny Daisy Duke white short, very short top, high heel sandals, looking so fucking good, she has gained weight in all the right places, nice round all and thicker and yet slim legs, tiny by suck able titties, we hug and kiss for a long time, I love to french kiss this girl she is a good kisser, I grab her ass and squeeze firmly, she smiles and feels my little buddy poking her approving of what I see, I look deep in her eyes and she holds my stare I love that is very sexy, we immediately move to the bed kissing and touching, she lays on top of me still dressed straddles me and tells me she missed me a lot, she lays next to me and I hold her looking into her eyes and talking for a while, she gets up and we get undressed, we open the bottle of rum and toast to seeing each other again, she lays on top of me kissing me and stroking my cock, she mounts me without saying a word and I remind her of the condom, she says I just want to feel me like that for a little bit, then she puts the rubber on, leans over to french kiss me and puts my cock inside her while kissing me, rides me slow and deep, feeling every inch of my dick in her, I grabbed her get up with her still riding me lay her on her back, grab her legs and go as deep as I can, she closes her eyes to enjoy the moment, then we change to Doggy, I pound her as hard as I can and she loves it and asks for more, I nut and my legs feel like rubber, we lay on the bed holding each other and talking for what seems a long while, she gets up washes her self brings a wet towel and cleans me off, we drink a little more, she smokes a couple of cigarettes, lays back down on the bed so I can eat her sweet, pink pussy, she is so wet, smells like soap and clean pussy, I go as deep as I can with my tongue, she loves Oral, I lick her asshole picking up all her juices dripping out of her, she is cumming so much her legs are trembling I keep this up for about 15 minutes till my mouth and tongue are so sore I can't feel them, am rock hard again so she lays me down rides me cowgirl really rough, jumps up and comes down hard and deep, am enjoying every stroke it feels to hot, after a few minutes I move my hips up meeting her in every stroke till she cums and there is a puddle of her cum all around my hips and groin, on the last stroke I hold her down and explode, I was surprised the rubber didn't break, we hold each other panting for a while, keep talking and drinking, take a quick shower together to wash off the sweat and the cum off our bodies, we kiss all the time under the water touching and teasing, I love to suck on her barely there tits and aureolas, the are pink like her pussy lips, very tiny her clit is bigger that her nipples, I tease her about it, she blushes, she looks so cute. She has black curly hair, and white baby like skin, big almond eyes, and sometimes uses too much make up and hair spray, reminds me of the school girls in the 80's with the big hair dos, we dry each other up and head back to bed, I get her on all fours again and fuck her as best as I can with my rubbery legs, we lay in a spooning position and I ask her to try Anal, she says OK, gets some lube and we try, she is too tight and hurts her so we stop, we lay like that for a while since my buddy decided to take a nap, she gets up serves her and me more rum smokes again, comes back to bed and gives me a wonderful BBBJ, till I get rock hard again, keep in mind I already came 3 times, mounts me again cowgirl but lays on my chest kissing me and fucking me at the same time, by now am in so much ecstasy I don't realize we are doing it in Bareback till I cum, I tell her am about to cum and she takes me out of her pussy and puts my tip in her ass. I check the time and is already almost 5 am, we go to sleep holding each other naked on top of the covers. She gets up at 8 am, her cousin that also works there is calling her to find out if she is done and is ready to leave, she dresses, french kissing me good bye, I give her $300 K for the services and the cab. Later that day she messaged me that she missed me, so we arrange for her to come back that night (Saturday night) for a couple of hours, around 8, again she is late but with a repeat performance like the previous night I don't complain, I had an early flight so she didn't stay all night only about 4 hours, I gave her $200 K and she was very happy.

Blue Touch
01-26-18, 05:23
Some American guys, especially Caucasian guys, believe that they will look good and become attractive to locals in developing countries. Scams in these countries play on and exploit these fantasies to steal.


Unless your going to hire a guide. Expect to be a big let down on the non-pro with no spanish. I recommend going with the pros. Work out a deal for their time. Good luck.