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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]I decided to delete the lesson as this is not really the place for that.
Just realize that using gustar this way (one on one to a person, not an obejct) really translates to "I am into/dig you and attracted to you", alot stronger in meaning than "you are pleasing to me" or "I like you ". It is sexual and you would NEVER say "me gustas" to another guy unless you are gay or wanted people to think you are gay. Feel free to gustar comida or sports or taxis.
Adding "mucho" or better yet, ""tanto" would intensify that and translate to "I am sooo into you and totally attracted to you" or "I am totally digging you and really attracted to you".
In your home country you would never just say this to a girl you met on the street for all of 5 minutes. But not knowing the real translation coupled with the fact that it is really easy to just rattle off 5 sylables "me gustas mucho". Not a prob. Give a half squinted seductive look and you'll be ball deep in pussy before you know it.[/QUOTE]Actually, thanks for that mini-lesson anyway.
Makes sense.
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[QUOTE=Best Fucking]I went to Colombia some years ago because I had read many interesting posts here but I have to tell it is difficult to fuck a non pro in Colombia for a 50-55 years old guy. I know many towns in Colombia. Then. I have to tell Colombia is more and more expensive for fucking pro. I often read Colombia is a Earthly Paradise, then I read all guys fuck pro at casas, etc. Etc. If you are a expert traveller and you know much about fucking around the world, what is the best country where it is very easy to fuck non girls (excluded Africa)?
I would like to know your opinion.[/QUOTE]That's funny mate.
Best country to fuck non girl's?
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[QUOTE=Dw1987]Brand new Tigo phones in Oviedo are only 15 bucks.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LuckyEddie]You risk lower quailty, poor sound, breaking down and not being able to get them serviced in your home country. Also a risk is them not working on your home country's BAND. The Tigo phones in Oviedo MAY only work with TIGO or on the Colombia BAND or may be locked. But I am not sure.[/QUOTE]But the Tigo phone is only $15, no big deal.
I bought a cheap Comcel phone, Nokia, about 7 years ago in Colombia, the darn thing still works like new.
I have to agree though, I am tired of having 4 different cheap phones from Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela and Colombia, plus the US.
Just bought an unlocked GSM quad band phone to use in all countries, swapping sim cards.
I'm slow but I catch on eventually.
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[quote=luckyeddie]the best cuban cigars go export and some of the best dominican cigar brands are unpurchasable in the dr. the domincans never heard of some of their best brands.
the women that go from colombia to say aruba, curucao or saint maarten are taking a risk. they have to pay for airfare, they commit for 3-6 months, they have to lay out a lot of pocket expenses for visa plus they pay the casa every day, approx $65, that's right, they could lose money if things are bad. so who goes? who takes that risk?
the stellar performers who are always booked in their home country. the ugly pudge bunnies don't stand a chance and will not take the risk of losing a ton of money. these girls abroad phone their homes a few times a week but that it is it.
there you will never hear "estoy triste". as soon you hear that don't take the bait, in any country, change the subject, that is always the lead in for "give me money because my baby is dying and our house fell into a mudslide so now my family of 9 is living in a glad bag connected to an empty shoe box"
here in colombia when they are out with you or working in a casa they have to worry about thier male family members catching them (this is why in the mps they do the peek through the curtain or side window before coming out. new life has a camera). they have boyfreiends here or abroad who think they are working in a casino, these guys have friends or relatives here in colombia. they have family obligations and shit to worry about.
when a non pro tells you she does't like parque lleras, know what? she's a pro and does not want to be spotted there with you or doesn't want to be spotted with you because her sugar daddy might be there, or another guy who is in town etc.
when they are on the islands you pay more but nowhere near prices in 1st world countries (usd$45 half an hour on the islands, you pay more in loutron and faseii. think about it. there are bars where you hang with the girls before and after). you are in a tropical paradise, sportsgambling, casinos with craps, shopping for stuff that yhou can actually use, duty free booze and cuban cigars, great restuarants, clean white sand beaches (sorry but cartagena looks and smells like low tide at keansburg. it's a filthy shithole for those who like swimming in a cesspool), beaches that restuarantes right on them, beach bars right on them, you can comfortably rent a car, airfare is cheaper than to colombia, tln mean tln. not some "my primo just called and my kid is sick i have to leave ". this at 2am. you already paid and what is really going on is she is going to mangos with her traqueto sugar daddy. this ain't happnin' on the islands.
if you know what you are doing have street smarts, can speak the language and can stay for 2-3 weeks or more in one shot colombia is great. the economy needs you spending your usd here.
but there is a learning curve. if i only had a week or 10 days to vacation and monger the last place i would come is here to colombia nor brazil nor nicaragua (brazil and nica much better mongering spots than colombia). i would go to the caribbean and do it right. it is not that much more money and you get your choice of girls from all of colombia. cali, bogotá, medellin, la costa, and broads from the dr, panama and a few other islands not to mention a handful, albiet small handful of europeans.
oh, and everyone on the islands speak english and knows how to drive. the air is clean not smog laiden and it is not a total noise hole. the girls working also are of a higher % of english speakers. guys like to tln and go out to a nice restuarant on the beach with a girl they can actually talk to.
you guys come here to colombia with your maps and your rules and your cheat sheets and you're taking notes and counting how many times you got a bbbj and where.
i would never enjoy myself that way. jmho. if you are on a really tight budget and don't mind the extra crap spend your money here. it is really needed these days as things are really bad.[/quote]i agree with a lot of what you're saying.
i've been to all these hot spots in the caribbean with the colombian chicas, many times.
you'll definitely see some top notch looking chicas on the islands, and like you said, they're definitely under pressure to perform due to the relatively high costs they incur just to work/live there not to mention the multas (fines) they have to pay when they break a house rule.
of course i enjoy myself on the islands but i still prefer to go to the source, colombia.
i generally find these "circuit chicas" hardened and systematic.
i've met some nice colombianas working on the islands, but you're not likely to find that young sweet chica, either non-pro, or new to the biz, that just doesn't know yet, how beautiful she is.
i agree with you though. if you're a non-spanish speaker, non experienced guy, these islands, with high end, english speaking chicas, could be a better deal for you.
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]Never did Boniare - you can stay right in Campo on Curacao. Not expensive at all. Seems to be the best place in the Carrib.[/QUOTE]IMHO, The best place in the Caribbean is SXM. Some guys might argue that DR is #1. I beg to defer purely as a personal preference. It would be #2 in my opinion. Curacao #3 and as it stands today, Aruba would be #4.
Vicks picks, you would have a blast in SXM.
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[QUOTE=Best Fucking]I went to Colombia some years ago because I had read many interesting posts here but I have to tell it is difficult to fuck a non pro in Colombia for a 50-55 years old guy. I know many towns in Colombia. Then. I have to tell Colombia is more and more expensive for fucking pro. I often read Colombia is a Earthly Paradise, then I read all guys fuck pro at casas, etc. Etc. If you are a expert traveller and you know much about fucking around the world, what is the best country where it is very easy to fuck non girls (excluded Africa)?
I would like to know your opinion.[/QUOTE]"Non Girls"? Lady Boys in Thailand but, I guess you mean "Non Pros" My 2 cents would be Philippines cause they speak English there or Indonesia but, you should have a job working there. Working in any country provides many opportunities for "Non Pros". Just my opinion though.
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I'm noticing lately some conflicting ideas regarding mongering for Colombianas is better outside of Colombia.
I'm not so sure if that's the case. If the guys that are lately declaring that have specific anecdotes or reports to support them, then I'm all ears. But usually the reports coming out of San Jose and Panama City (where a lot of Colombianas go for P4P work) are mixed at best. The usual complaints about prices, attitude, mechanical service, CBJ, even clock-watching are common.
I believe the situation is bit better in St. Martin but keep in mind the Dutch Antilles runs a tight ship in terms of examining the girls regularly for STDs. They get the fear of that drummed into them so don't expect bbbjs unless you've gained their trust over multiple sessions. I've been to St. Martin's and I'll gladly take MDE over that island in most situations.
Keep in mind these girls are under pressure to pay off the costs of the flight ticket, lodging, etc. Even the prettier girls feel the stress to rack up customers, otherwise, they don't make much money which makes the trip kind of pointless. And the plainer or less aggressive girls could end up in debt.
So I'm not really sure if that kind of environment is conducive to a pleasant mongering experience. But when you can't get all the way down to Colombia, it's a nice option to have. I just wouldn't put it on a pedestal.
Side note:
Speaking of buying stuff in Italy, I must admit I was somewhat disappointed later on with my leather purchase from Firenze (Florence) and my "Murano" glass set. I'm glad I only bought the least expensive of what appealed to me. So while there's a case to be made for not buying certain famous products inside the country they're made in, I think the P4P world operates under a whole different set of "rules."
And anyway, Italy may not be the best example. In general, there's a lot of hype about Italian products when the reality is compromised/adulterated quality due to mafioso (and corporate) shenanigans and greed. And that can apply even more to stuff that's exported such as the documented scandals in the past regarding Italian wines and olive oil sold in Europe and the states. I see Italy as a kind of richer "banana republic" Latin-American corrupt type country with better food and architecture :)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Italy. I have nothing personal against Italians, and I actually like a lot of things about Italian culture, music, art, food, etc. Product quality is usually good, just not as high as people claim it to be and so prices are too often not reflecting the reality.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea]IMHO, The best place in the Caribbean is SXM. Some guys might argue that DR is #1. I beg to defer purely as a personal preference. It would be #2 in my opinion. Curacao #3 and as it stands today, Aruba would be #4.
Vicks picks, you would have a blast in SXM.[/QUOTE]I have been to SXM twice, but both times I was with the X so I did no Mongering there. Wow I loved the DR (Sosua especially Classico's), but if you say SXM is number 1 than I must try it out. The beach I think is so important to me as I love to swim and walk on the beach. A good way to kill some time and recuperrate from the nightly exertions.
Mr. Lucky, you mentioned that you could get a room in Campo. If I did that I would most likely have to leave on a strecher I would be like a kid locked in a candy store.
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[quote=chesrep001]some may be offended by lucky eddie's info, but he nails it in many ways.
. lucky eddie inspires me to go to curacao. quote]
lucky eddie obviously is an experienced guy, fluent spanish speaker, appears to be colombian or at least latino.
no reason to be offended by him, he has great info and his opinions are just that, his opinions.
as far as curacao goes, been there many times, it's fun and fantastic.
very large compund there where the chicas live/work, campo alegre.
i enjoy it every time.
if you're looking for a caribbean vacation with built in chicas, it's great.
you do miss out on the "colombian experience" though.
what lucky eddie calls "the extra crap" in colombia can also be part of the adventure.
if you"re looking for the sweet non-pro / pro colombiana, these islands are not the place to go imo.
a couple side notes; though the chicas at the compound may be fairly inexpensive, everything else on that island is pretty expensive ("muy carinoso" the recent learned expression hehe)
heck a round-trip cab ride from the hotels to the chica compund runs about $40-50 us. i'd definitely look into a rental car for an extended stay.
also compare it with sxm which has at least several clubs and a dutch and french side of the island to explore.
have fun!
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Just to keep this relevant we are talking about Colombianas working on these islands: I got several PMs on what is SXM?
Sorry. It is Sint Maarten (the Dutch side of the island, with the other half being French and called Saint Martin), where the airport is. For years people referred to it by it's airport code (SXM) most likely to avoid confusion between the the Dutch and French sides and the different spelling.
At Campo you are basically locked in a compound with around 100 chicas all from Colombia or DR (not sure of the ratio. 60-40?) I downgraded Campo in my book because, of the few reasons Ricker also mentioned AND the hit and miss factor. It can be a let down sometimes if you are there all day and you have to look really hard to find an 8 and she has along line of fuckers waiting for her. Can get depressing actually. BTW, outside of Campo there is ZERO reliable action.
Ricker, referring to your earlier post, I agree that the odds are low but I did find a 19 yr old new to business gorgeous all natural Colombiana on her first trip to SXM. She said she never worked in Colombia because of family issues. I went on a boat ride with her and her friend who is 22 and beautiful. The experience is something I will never forget.
The thought of going to the source does intrigue me and the "exoticness" of Colombia certainly does attract me. That is why I am on my way there.
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[quote=ricker][quote=chesrep001]some may be offended by lucky eddie's info, but he nails it in many ways.
. lucky eddie inspires me to go to curacao.[/quote]lucky eddie obviously is an experienced guy, fluent spanish speaker, appears to be colombian or at least latino.
no reason to be offended by him, he has great info and his opinions are just that, his opinions.
as far as curacao goes, been there many times, it's fun and fantastic.
very large compund there where the chicas live/work, campo alegre.
i enjoy it every time.
if you're looking for a caribbean vacation with built in chicas, it's great.
you do miss out on the "colombian experience" though.
what lucky eddie calls "the extra crap" in colombia can also be part of the adventure.
if you"re looking for the sweet non-pro / pro colombiana, these islands are not the place to go imo.
a couple side notes; though the chicas at the compound may be fairly inexpensive, everything else on that island is pretty expensive ("muy carinoso" the recent learned expression hehe)
heck a round-trip cab ride from the hotels to the chica compund runs about $40-50 us. i'd definitely look into a rental car for an extended stay.
also compare it with sxm which has at least several clubs and a dutch and french side of the island to explore.
have fun![/quote]my old buddy the eternal monger lol, when are you gonna find a good chica to settle down with and make and honest man out of you? je je, peace bro!
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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]All of the girls on the islands (90%) are Colombian. Not the native girls from the particular island. There is no premuim, the prices are fixed. The Colombian women on Curacao, Saint Maarten, Aruba, Bonaire are not the rare girls, they are pretty much the only girls.[/QUOTE]You're saying Curacao, Saint Maarten, Aruba, Bonaire have 90% Colombians?
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo]That's funny mate.
Best country to fuck non girl's?[/QUOTE]Jejejeje, sure! Non pro girls, it was a typing error.
Look at subject.
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[QUOTE=Arjay]"Non Girls"? Lady Boys in Thailand but, I guess you mean "Non Pros" My 2 cents would be Philippines cause they speak English there or Indonesia but, you should have a job working there. Working in any country provides many opportunities for "Non Pros". Just my opinion though.[/QUOTE]If you read my subject you see "non pro" girls. It was a typing error.
I speak every language (a little) I don't have problems with language but my bigger problem I cannot get more than 15 free days.
Thanks
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Not quoting anyone here, I recommended Campo Alegre as the hardcore mongers seem to always reference it. Better yet they RAVE about it. One of the main reasons is that the girls are more relaxed and have less of a feeling of being in a prison like they do on SXM.
Me? I'm a beach guy first, monger second. SXM in my opinion is the tops of Caribbean getaways. If all you want to do is get laid get laid and get laid you can do that anywhere on the planet. Even in the US. You just have to find the place that fits your budget. I had 4 sweet young spinners in the US who swallowed every drop, total GFE, but were $350 an hour. BBBJCIM was on the menu or everyone, nothing special about me.
But this is a sex site not the Travel Chanel so I recommended Campo to Vick. Especially since he and I have communicated about SXM in depth and he has yet to go.
Generally speaking GREAT beaches, a relaxed atmosphere, at least a few good restuarants and a variety of options (nightlife, casino, hidden places) is a must. It does not have to have the best *****-house(s).
There are always girls who are gems in these places in the Caribbean and not all are hardened pros. Or if they are hardened pros they are that way moreso with the typical run of the mill johns and some charm and being different can soften them up.
Being able to hang in a bar and watch them all you can see who the cold hearted hustlers are. It goes a long way seing them interact and even hanging with them for hours before during and after.
This is why a lot of guys hang in the Mayorista where you can actually hang with the girls.
Try that in a centro MP where you get a 5 second twirl.