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[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1381995]Any cabbie will know where Punto Cero is. I.[/QUOTE]Nice report. I doubt that I would ever use them but impressed enough that I added it to ROD.
[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1381995]Any cabbie will know where Punto Cero is. It's about a 5K cab ride from the Centro, very close, a bit further from El Poblado and maybe 15K-20K from Bello.
You pull in with your car, moto, cab, whatever to a garage. You go upstairs and there is a room with a big bed, a stripper pole, a Turkish bath, a Jacuzzi / shower and a little safe looking thing. You never see anyone, everything is done through this little caja with a mini bar above it. At the end, they bill you for whatever. Six hours is 90K pesos, everything else (booze, condoms, sex toys, drinks, food) is billed along with that at the end. The prices are not cheap but reasonable enough. For a Red Bull, a vibrator, a bottle of rum and a Gatorade it was maybe 80K pesos.
In El Centro there are numerous fuck hotels, most of them greasy. A couple that cater to the trio of "respectable" strip joints on Maracaibo are OK. Hotel Country is the older one, they have big rooms with a Jacuzzi that are 30K S-F and 37 or 40 K on Saturday (I forget). They have smaller 20K rooms as well if you're just in and out, and probably short time rates. I have fond memories of this place and the rooms are decent, but it's worn down for sure. Clearly a fuck hotel. The other place that opened recently right by those strip joints (one block heading up the hill) is Hotel Romantic Suites. This place is cool. It's got cheesy themed rooms (a football pitch with fake grass and a goal net above the bed LOL; various Italian, Egyptian and other national themes; cartoon themes, etc) and the setup is nice. While it's clearly a fuck hotel, it does not appear run down and the service is excellent. Big TVs, nice beds (firm though) , Jacuzzi, awesome showers (better than fancy hotel ones) and stereo systems. Cool setup that costs 25K for 3 hours (additional hours 8K) or 29K from 7PM to 2PM (best deal) or 61K for whatever time you check in before 7PM until 2PM the next day. Saturdays are slightly more.[/QUOTE]Wilt. The Hotel Romantic Suites sounds awesome. I have been looking for a place like this. I used to stay at one called the ALadin in Maracaibo (Venezuela) untill recently as the scene over there has become terrible. (thats a whole nother story) Anyway, The aladin used to have themed rooms and really it was nicer than most luxury hotels. This Hotel Romantic Suites sounds very similar. With large rooms, Large showers et. Def. Setup as a fuck hotel but nice enough to stay in for a whole vacation. Room service et. The works. I know it sounds a little nuts but, could one stay a whole week at Hotel Romantic Suites for a week. How far is it from Poblado. Is the area nice or run down. Thanks!
[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1381897]I agree with there being no need to pay more than 100k, but as far as "prices going up all over town", your beef is with the Colombianos.
You have less than one percent of (male) gringos in Medellin at any given time during the year concentrated at The Mansion (both houses) and the handful of properties owned by Poblado Rentals. It's not even a speck in this very large city."We" may be fucking up the prices within out very small prepago / gringo circle, but it's not enough of us there at one time to effect what happens all year long. If prices are going up at Loutron, Fase Dos, New Life, Coffee House, San Diego, etc, its because the Colombianos are causing and paying those prices.
This same argument cannot be made in places like San Jose and Sosua, where 99. 9% of the people going there are gringo male tourist. You could be in Medellin and (if not staying at the Mansion) never bump into another gringo your entire trip. Outside of the Mansion group I did a Casa run with, I saw one other guy from Florida hanging at New Life (was staying at an apartment) , and one other gringo we spoke to who was coming out of the Hard Rock Cafe. I was in Medellin for 5 days and went everywhere (and a lot of times by foot).
When I went to San Diego Grill, La Isla, and La Mansana, the three of us were the only gringos in all three places. All three places were packed: with Colombianos.[/QUOTE]This really is the biggest and most interesting topic that haunts us mongers. To pay or not to pay. I am one who pays. I am on vacation and I am not going to worry about saving a couple bucks on a cab, or $20-$50 on overpaying for a chica I want. I am not going to spend my vacation haggling and stressing over a few bucks. However, there is a fine line and I have seen more than a few Mongering destinations (ie: Panama) go down the crapper because gringos start over paying. However I am not sure its the colombianos who ruin it. When a Colombiana sees a gringo in a club or other establishment dollar signs light up in her eyes. Its just the culture and the way they think. They are going to expect more from you than a latino. You are a tourist you are nieve (or so they think) and you have money. Then when you act cheap they resent you for it because they expect you to pay more. Where as a latino they would accept the lower price. Its a tough situation but from my experience pay the gringo tax but don't overpay so much that you look like an idiot and ruin it for future mongerers
This is one of the most interesting things I have read on these boards and its so true. I always try to pay what I feel comfortable with and what I think is fair without over paying. I often take a few guys on these trips with me and most of them only do one trip per year. I tell them approximately what to pay the girls and almost everytime when I ask these guys what they gave the girl they over pay by anywhere from 50 to 100 us dollars more then they should have. There answer is always I am on vacation its no problem. When I think of it I understand there thoughts, they save for these trips all year and then just want to enjoy there 5 or 7 days. But I have always been just the opposit, not that I go down there and am cheap, as a matter of fact I probably over tip some people more than others. I am big with taking care of the house keeping, front desk guys and bartenders because I often stay in the same place time and time again. But the girls I always try to pay what the going rate is, they always start high and I almost always get them down to what it should be.
My thought is somewhat different then the guy that saves all year and just wants to go crazy for his one trip a year, which I do understand, but I would rather try not to go nuts with over paying and I enjoy doing 5 or 6 trips per year. I use to do a trip every 2 months but with the economy its been about every 3 months now. So trying to be more responsible with the cash probably allows me that one extra trip per year.
[QUOTE=Mfins;1382690]This really is the biggest and most interesting topic that haunts us mongers. To pay or not to pay. I am one who pays. I am on vacation and I am not going to worry about saving a couple bucks on a cab, or $20-$50 on overpaying for a chica I want. I am not going to spend my vacation haggling and stressing over a few bucks. However, there is a fine line and I have seen more than a few Mongering destinations (ie: Panama) go down the crapper because gringos start over paying. However I am not sure its the colombianos who ruin it. When a Colombiana sees a gringo in a club or other establishment dollar signs light up in her eyes. Its just the culture and the way they think. They are going to expect more from you than a latino. You are a tourist you are nieve (or so they think) and you have money. Then when you act cheap they resent you for it because they expect you to pay more. Where as a latino they would accept the lower price. Its a tough situation but from my experience pay the gringo tax but don't overpay so much that you look like an idiot and ruin it for future mongerers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1381984]It really depends on the girl's immediate needs. If she is a popular girl and has had enough clients that month to pay her rent, food etc, then she will be more apt to hold her ground on the price. If she needs immediate cash flow then she is more likely to drop her price.
Medellin will never be as big of a monger destination as other places for two reasons. One is fear. There are many people that would love to go to Colombia to bang hot girls that don't have the balls. I openly discuss my travels with my circle of friends and family and the ONLY place they shake their head in amazement at is when I mention the country of Colombia. Anyone that has extensively traveled in South and Central America knows there are plenty of places that are MUCH worse but the average Joe doesn't have a clue. Mention Nicaragua and they don't bat an eyelash but mention Colombia and they shit their pants. The other reason Medellin will never be a huge gringo monger destination is that the "families" in Medellin that control the money in that city won't allow it. This is why there isn't a single freelance h00ker bar in the entire city. Yes, prostitution is legal and tolerated all over Colombia, but in your face, out in the open Sosua, DR or San Jose, CR style will never fucking happen, ever.[/QUOTE]Exactamente amigo, thats why Colombia is my favorite spot. Guys who have never been think Pablo Escobar is still running around killing everybody. And the girls are so beautiful and sweet. But one thing I do is respect the city and culture. I don't do casas but I love the strip clubs. I usually will make plans for an afternoon delight with the girl at my condo. We rarely leave the condo except maybe to make a pizza run to go. People would instantly be able to size up the situation if we go out in public for long stays and that could lead to dirty looks and potential problems. The girls don't seem to have problems with hanging out in public but I do. I've had strippers invite me to their homes to have a meal with the family but its not that kind of party. I like to stay within my comfort zone. I've always said that if you stay low-key you can expirience Medellin at its best verses showing your biz and strutting with your chest poked out. Remember Colombians arent nosy like Dominicans they have their own agenda, they only pay attention when you make them, but then you could have problems.
Overpaying invites trouble. If you throw more money at a girl than is standard, she knows you're unknowledgeable about the scene and you become a mark.
I do understand the attitude of the one-week-a-year monger. He's down there for a few days a year and overpaying for a few fucks doesn't really matter. However, you won't get better service. Respect is big in this Culture, and the girl will respect you that much less if you overpay. And if the girl knows you have money to burn, she has friends who will look for the opportunity to relieveyou of your funds. Still lots of desperately poor people in Colombia. Don't make yourself a target!
On the other hand, haggling over a few pesos can create a bad dynamic. Best policy is to know the going rate and say (with a smile) that's what you're paying. No need to argue.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1382870]Exactamente amigo, thats why Colombia is my favorite spot. Guys who have never been think Pablo Escobar is still running around killing everybody. And the girls are so beautiful and sweet. But one thing I do is respect the city and culture. I don't do casas but I love the strip clubs. I usually will make plans for an afternoon delight with the girl at my condo. We rarely leave the condo except maybe to make a pizza run to go. People would instantly be able to size up the situation if we go out in public for long stays and that could lead to dirty looks and potential problems. The girls don't seem to have problems with hanging out in public but I do. I've had strippers invite me to their homes to have a meal with the family but its not that kind of party. I like to stay within my comfort zone. I've always said that if you stay low-key you can expirience Medellin at its best verses showing your biz and strutting with your chest poked out. Remember Colombians arent nosy like Dominicans they have their own agenda, they only pay attention when you make them, but then you could have problems.[/QUOTE]
Good post bro!
[QUOTE=Mfins;1382685]Wilt. The Hotel Romantic Suites sounds awesome. I have been looking for a place like this. I used to stay at one called the ALadin in Maracaibo (Venezuela) untill recently as the scene over there has become terrible. (thats a whole nother story) Anyway, The aladin used to have themed rooms and really it was nicer than most luxury hotels. This Hotel Romantic Suites sounds very similar. With large rooms, Large showers et. Def. Setup as a fuck hotel but nice enough to stay in for a whole vacation. Room service et. The works. I know it sounds a little nuts but, could one stay a whole week at Hotel Romantic Suites for a week. How far is it from Poblado. Is the area nice or run down. Thanks![/QUOTE]The Romantic Suites is in El Centro, literally on the doorstep of Barra Ejecutiva, Bar de las Americas and Club Maracaibo or whatever. It is on Maracaibo a block up toward Oriental (Maracaibo con Sucre more or less).
Your question doesn't seem that crazy to me. One conceivably could stay a week. They are pretty cool about cleaning the room, changing towels and sheets, etc as they are accustomed to doing it several times a day for one room since most of their guests are there for 1-3 hours and out.
The beds are a little firm but lets face it you're often sleeping on a pretty average to shitty bed in most hotels that are 120-200K pesos, too. Shower is awesome and the place has the appearance of being clean since it's new. Lots of themed rooms to choose from, though many are pretty plain.
It would cost you about 450K pesos for a week. I do not know if they have WiFi. I just kind of use it at my convenience but often the times line up where I'll buy a whole 24 hours. They don't care about smoking (whatever) or anything like that, very laid back. I'd say you're better off just using it as necessary but I could see staying there, it wouldn't be depressing like the Hotel Country.
[QUOTE=Combo; 1383013]Overpaying invites trouble. If you throw more money at a girl than is standard, she knows you're unknowledgeable about the scene and you become a mark.
I do understand the attitude of the one-week-a-year monger. He's down there for a few days a year and overpaying for a few fucks doesn't really matter. However, you won't get better service. Respect is big in this Culture, and the girl will respect you that much less if you overpay. And if the girl knows you have money to burn, she has friends who will look for the opportunity to relieveyou of your funds. Still lots of desperately poor people in Colombia. Don't make yourself a target!
On the other hand, haggling over a few pesos can create a bad dynamic. Best policy is to know the going rate and say (with a smile) that's what you're paying. No need to argue.[/QUOTE]I don't get the guys who waste the money just to waste it. If you are paying for extras or additional time or something, well, that's having it your way and you will have to figure out what it's worth to you. But these fucking cornballs who rack up huge bar bills on these girls and just give them money for no reason bother me. I call it the James Harden syndrome.
[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1383055]The Romantic Suites is in El Centro, literally on the doorstep of Barra Ejecutiva, Bar de las Americas and Club Maracaibo or whatever. It is on Maracaibo a block up toward Oriental (Maracaibo con Sucre more or less).
Your question doesn't seem that crazy to me. One conceivably could stay a week. They are pretty cool about cleaning the room, changing towels and sheets, etc as they are accustomed to doing it several times a day for one room since most of their guests are there for 1-3 hours and out.
The beds are a little firm but lets face it you're often sleeping on a pretty average to shitty bed in most hotels that are 120-200K pesos, too. Shower is awesome and the place has the appearance of being clean since it's new. Lots of themed rooms to choose from, though many are pretty plain.
It would cost you about 450K pesos for a week. I do not know if they have WiFi. I just kind of use it at my convenience but often the times line up where I'll buy a whole 24 hours. They don't care about smoking (whatever) or anything like that, very laid back. I'd say you're better off just using it as necessary but I could see staying there, it wouldn't be depressing like the Hotel Country.[/QUOTE]Thanks Wilt, I will be there in a few weeks and check it out. WIFI is biggie though and so is cable tv. Which I am assuming they have. DO they have suites. Themed suites. Once again thanks for the help. Do they have the little drawer or slit or whatever where they pass the food, and drinks et through. Basically you never see anyone as its all done through the drawer
[QUOTE=Mfins;1383063]Thanks Wilt, I will be there in a few weeks and check it out. WIFI is biggie though and so is cable tv. Which I am assuming they have. DO they have suites. Themed suites. Once again thanks for the help. Do they have the little drawer or slit or whatever where they pass the food, and drinks et through. Basically you never see anyone as its all done through the drawer[/QUOTE]You will have to ask about WiFi, given that I am nearby I leave my computer at home. They do have cable and most of the rooms have big ass TVs. I think some have like 32" but many have ones that are closer to 46" I think (I am not good at eyeballing that sort of thing). Has the full run of cable channels plus one porn station that sucks.
They don't have that setup with the drawer, Punto Cero has that. This is pretty basic stuff, they just send a cleaning lady to your room with whatever or if you order food maybe a guy from the restaurant will bring it. Only the snacks and sodas are 24 hours.
You can buy a mobile internet service/coverage from Uff or others for appro. 40k / month and a modem for your computer for 40k. You will be on line wherever you go in Colombia. Go to a shop with the Uff sign and ask.
[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1383267]You will have to ask about WiFi, given that I am nearby I leave my computer at home. They do have cable and most of the rooms have big ass TVs. I think some have like 32" but many have ones that are closer to 46" I think (I am not good at eyeballing that sort of thing). Has the full run of cable channels plus one porn station that sucks.
They don't have that setup with the drawer, Punto Cero has that. This is pretty basic stuff, they just send a cleaning lady to your room with whatever or if you order food maybe a guy from the restaurant will bring it. Only the snacks and sodas are 24 hours.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1383271]You can buy a mobile internet service/coverage from Uff or others for appro. 40k / month and a modem for your computer for 40k. You will be on line wherever you go in Colombia. Go to a shop with the Uff sign and ask.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that tip. WiFi on the phone can be very useful for those that are not fluent in Spanish so we can use the internet based translators for times when we get into philosophical discussions with chicas.
You can buy a modem for 40k. Bring your laptop to Uff shops and ask.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1383433]Thank you for that tip. WiFi on the phone can be very useful for those that are not fluent in Spanish so we can use the internet based translators for times when we get into philosophical discussions with chicas.[/QUOTE]