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Hi, any news on Fortaleza?
I', traveling there on the 24th of May
I'd heard that the whole scene has crack down.
Anybody more info?
Let start the group with a status on Fortaleza. The information below is collected in the beginning of may/2002 during my last visit :
Alô Alô Brasil :
The place is located in the Mirante area. It is located close to Beirra Mar, but it can be difficult to find, the area is not to safe, so I recommend a Taxi, if you don't know the area well. Its a simple open air place, entrance is 10R$. All the tables has numbers and telephones, so you normally call the girls by phone (Difficult to handle if you don't speak portuguese). Beers and drinks are cheap, like 2R$ (beers) to 5R$(drinks). The best time to go is 22.00. The girls are all moving to Desigual (see description below) around 1.30am. The place is open all days (except Sunday, I think), but only tuesday is popular. The level of the girls was avarage (5-6), however a few nice ones.
Iracema area (5 minutes from Bierra Mar area) :
The following 4 places are all located in Iracema area. The area has lots of restaurants and street life.
Zip's :
Local bar on the street near the gas station at Iracema. The place is OK for an early night, like 21.00, most girls move the Africas or Desigual later on. No entrance and beers are 3R$. The level of the girls was very avarage (5-6, maximum).
Africas :
The place is located behind the famous Piratas bar. The place seems the be in short time stop for the girls after they leaves Zip's and before they enters Desigual. The level of the girls was very low (3-4), maybe I was unlucky, I have visited the place two times and the result was the same. I will not visit again.
Desigual :
Desigual has existed for many years. Its located on the see front at Iracema. This place is the final stop for the girls. The place is open from 10pm, but its empty until 1.30am. The place is OK, like a open air disco, no entrance fee before 1am, and the beers are 3 R$. The level of the girls was 5-6 with a few 7'.
Piratas :
Famous Forró (the local lambada stile music) disco. Only open on Mondays, full of people. Turist shows etc. Consider it girlswise as a regular disco, however I will not garuantee that you can't meet pros :-)
Beirra Mar
Beirra Mar is the see front of Fortaleza with all the hotels. The street (and the mainstreet behind), is full of pros after midnight (and often berfore, especially in the north end.
In the south end of Beirra Mar the Mucuripe disco is located. Its a big open air place with 3 dance floors inside. Its a high end non pros (or very high end pros). Open only Friday and Saturday. Sometimes the place has special shows and its open during the week. They will open for WorldCup (Brasilian) games as well.
In Fortaleza, generally the prices on the girls (the nice'st ones) are 50-80R$/night, on the street probably cheaper.
23-26 of July 2002 Fortaleza has a Carneval type of street party at Beirra Mar. I staid some years back, and the party was good (but take care, these places can be dangerous).
Beach front Hotel prices vary from 50-100R$ night. Cesar Park is the high end hotel, but they do not allow in girls in the night, most of the other hotels do.
On the way out of Iracema area (direction north) I saw a new place (dado beer stile) and a new disco called Kiss. I didn't try (yet), as I only staid 3 days this time, but I will check it out the next time (june).
Good luck,
Max
Just forgot :
Praia do Futuro :
Driving in the south direction out of Fortaleza, you will find Praia do Futuro (Beach of the future....).
The place has several nice seefront bars, worth to visit like Saturday/Sunday afternoon, stay in the sun drink some caipirinhas or beers, but normally with a low amount of pros.
Thursday evening is good as well, places with turist shows, and girls on the street (regular/pros).
Max
(This is my initial post for Fortaleza -- it's about 8 months old. While much of this is still useful, please defer to the post by "Max Gilerg" a little below.)
FORTALEZA:
Fortaleza has sort of a confusing scene. It starts at about 9pm, goes 'til dawn, and operates on bar-hop principle. I.e., girls at one place at one time may show up at another later that night.
Soooo, comments such as "this place had X amount of girls, and they were X attractive" don't work as well here as they do in other cities in Brazil.
O.k. -- downtown, starting about 9pm, there are basically two venues: one, a boite (sex-club) and two, an open-terrace bar for working-girls.
The boite is across the street from the large disco "Pirata" (sorry, can't remember its name), and the bar is named "Vip", a few streets away. This area is the large bar-restaurant district on the southern end of the beach.
The boite was lame -- about 10 girls. Vip is o.k., about 30 women, but none very good looking. Prices quoted were about 100 reals. Neither provided rooms.
Boite "Studio Tropical" is another boite way out of town. It's about 25 minutes via cab heading inland. I don't think it's worth the trip. The night I was there it featured about 15 very unexceptional women, the finest of which (and the only one I talked to) asked for 200 reals. No beds on site; must go to a motel.
On the other end of the beach is another small boite: "Sunset." It, as the other two, is lame and not worth your time. 5-7 below average women.
But don't despair...
The main beach promenade, and the large street about one block behind it, are teeming with free-lance girls. Maybe 50-75 on any given night. Many are really good looking. Prices started at about 50 reals. There are many pousadas/quick-time motels in the area.
The best concentration for these girls, in my opinion, were the streets around Sunset boite.
I know many of you avoid street-walkers. This is problematic in Fortaleza -- for many of the girls you see walking the streets in the evening show up at the final meeting-place (the disco I will describe below) at 1:30-2 a.m.
This disco is "Desigual", and is the place where most girls end up at the end of the evening. Indeed, most boites close at midnight, as they know their girls will be taking off to this disco then.
Desigual is a good, packed, low-scale disco on the order of "Help" in Rio. On any given night there're about 150 women -- most (as always) unattractive, but there always seems to be enough honeys to go around.
It's about 10 reals for the entrance, and most girls ask somewhere between 150-200 reals. There are no beds/rooms here, so you must leave with them and go to your hotel (or a sex-motel).
Incidentally, there are a few really big discos that some taxi driver might try to (innocently) convince you are sex-discos, etc. There names are "Muccalippi," "Pirata" and "Africa." As far as I could tell, there are no working girls here.
Pirata, though, might be a good place to orient yourself, as there is a boite across the street, Desigual down the road toward the hotels off the beach, and many free-lancers walking around or sitting in the numerous cafes here.
Lastly, there's a large disco on the high bluff overlooking Fortaleza. The area is called "Mirante," and it's the only disco there. It's a nice place to hang out, and I was assured by my taxi driver that there're working girls here. I didn't go in -- but it looked like it had potential. Give it a try (Max) and tell me.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
Hi JW,
I agree with you posting. The 'Mirante' place you mention is Alô Alô Brasil, check my posting below. Just tried it two weeks ago, its between the best I have tried (in Fortaleza!), however its not SP. The place is not good if you go alone.
The price level of the girls you mention is not valid any longer. Desigual girls are now only 60-80R$, even for the best looking ones.
Mucuripe (high class) and Piratas are regular disco's. Africas is a 'putaria'.
Max
Max you are right about Fortaleza, having been there several times all you say is true. However if you get board in the afternoon or early evening I have found some action on Bata Mar in front of Mc Donalds,I sit down at one of the stands across the street and make eye contact with the gatas who walk by.
The thing about Fortaleza is that the real action will not start until 12:00 at night, Also be careful of the girls on the street behind Bata Mar, alot of them are TV"s.
Just came back from Fortaleza :
Desigual and Zips was closed, I dont know if its temporary or permanent.
Found another place called 'Cafe del Mar' in the Iracema area. Pleaty of girls (4-6). Price levels 40-80 R$/night.
Max
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i had a great time in fortaleza and highly recommend it if you like young, fun creamy brown brazilian girls who will appreciate your hard earned $ a lot more than the girls in rio (don´t get me wrong, i loved some of the rio girls too, but too many of them were all about business). i only spent a few days in fortaleza, spending my nights in praia iracema. the previous postings are accurate and the girls do seem to bar/club hop as the night progresses. like everywhere in brazil, things don´t get happening until late. i found a really fun bar with lots of adorable, young working girls in the area behind piareta club named Oporto bar. the drinks were cheap, the dj played good music and the bevey of honies were up for dancing and having a good time. you can´t beat the prices too, anywhere from 50 - 100 real for the girl for the night. i know that each person has a different experience, maybe i was just fortunate, but the girls i ended up with were hot and up for sex as much as i could handle it.
another place is Africa disco. crowded with girls, but few good looking ones, but they´re there, so if you see one you like don´t hesitate, but you can always just walk around that neighborhood and find another darling. there are many and i´m sure there are other bars i didn´t try.
there are also many women wandering the boardwalk with an occassional girl worth catching your eye (she´ll probably end up at Africa at the end of the night) but i found many of the boardwalk trollers to be older and some looked like they were on drugs.
i also met a couple of girls on the beach and had a great time. it helps to speak portugese, which i don´t, but these girls were up for meeting a foreigner and showed me a good time.
in summary, i highly recommed including fortaleza in your trip to brazil. hope you have as much fun as i did.
Anybody have any suggestions on girl-friendly, relatively secure hotels in Fortaleza? I don't care where it is (neighborhood), I just don't want any hassles or headaches. Where di you stay, BigEl?
Thanks all,
Tom B.
Hi Tomb
Try Fortaleza Golden Flat at Beirra Mar. Its a flat service, and they accept girls witd id. in the room. The price level is around 80R$ per night. Check details at www.accorhotels.com.br
Max
Hi, i'm looking for news about Fortaleza
I', traveling there on the 1 nov, alone. Is it safe?
I found in internet many cheap Pousada like Pousada Malu, Porto Belo Praia Hotel... Anybody know them? I think no problem to bring girls in the room (> 18)
What "not to do" or where "not to go" alone in Fortaleza?
Anybody more info?
fortaleza was great. it's a hell of long trip, but definitely worth it. i'm going to try and write up a punter's guide in this post, and i'll be happy to answer any questions as best i can.
fortaleza is the state capital of ceara state, in northeastern brazil, home of some of the most beautiful beatiful beaches in the country. the city itself has enough, tourist-wise to keep you occupied for a few days, but otherwise is just a jumping-off point to the paradise spots up and down the coast. if you have the time, you can easily hook yourself up with a honey or two in fortal, and then take them with you to canoa quebrada, or lagoinha, or jeri for a few days for fun and a nice "gf experience". back to fortaleza itself, the tourist/rich area is the three-mile stretch of beachfront condos, hotels, bars, restuarants, clubs and beach! from mucuripe on the east (rightside as you face the ocean) across meirelles in the middle to iracema on the west. btw - pronunciation - mucuripe=moo-coo-ree-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], meirelles=mee-rell-ees, and iracema=ee-ra-seh-mah. outside of this strip, the only other area worth visiting is praia do futuro, about two miles away to the south-east, which is the best beach in fortal and is lined with mega-beach cabanas/clubs - imagine club med for daytrippers and you get the idea (a couple of good nightspots too, depending on the night of the week - more on that later). behind meirelles (the middle of the beachfront strip), their are a few rich nieghborhoods (tons of tall condos), centered on the aldeota mall. other than this, fortaleza is essentially one large slum which you'll want to avoid.... yes, i'm making a terrible generalization (and i had a great afternoon at the public market next to "downtown"), but we're not really interested in sight-seeing and i'm writing a broad overview. overall, the beachfront strip has the same look/feel as ipanema in rio, a bit more modern, the beach is narrower, no mountains, more beachfront bars (hooray!), and lots of coconut palms (shade is good, the sun is a killer in fortaleza). as for security (everyone's favorite question), i felt really safe in fortaleza. i had no problem walking around at any hour of the day or night along the bechfront strip and the streets immediately behind it. the area is pretty heavily policed, as this is the tourist area. i stayed in meirelles (right in the middle), so i walked to most everywhere i wanted to go along the strip, i only took cabs when my feet got tired, not due to safety concerns (of course, i like to walk a lot). you definitely want a cab for going outside of this area, if only to avoid getting lost. most of the "poor" areas of town are not really dangerous, but as a tourist you don't know which ones are or are not, so don't risk it, take a cab. there are slums right behind iracema and mucuripe (the two far ends of the beachfront strip) and there are *very* dangerous favelas at both extreme ends of praia do futuro - stay in the middle (it's about 7 miles long), and go by cab. speaking of cabs, a cheap and fun alternative is the "moto-taxi", you ride on the back of a motorbike (with helmet), weaving in and out of traffic, praying fervently. an average taxi ride will cost you three or four bucks (it can add up), but the moto taxi will cost you only a dollar or two - there is no taximeter on a motorcycle, so negotiate the price beforehand. of course, late night, half-drunk, stumbling out of a club, be smart and take a normal cab. the best nightclubs are in iracema, and the most of the "action" tends to happen there too. it's kind of dead during the day, but worth a walk around anyhow, just so you have your bearings at night. a few blocks further west is the dragao do mar cultural center, which usually has some shows and has some nice upscale restaurants and clubs (orbitas is very good). the scene starts happening around sundown, and the "girls" start coming out around 8-9pm. btw, i stayed at hotel marina praia in meirelles, they have a website, they are cheap, friendly and clean, 50 meters off the beach (buit not beachfront which is way too expensive). there are several other small hotels off the beach that are good, jsut walk around. likewise there is hotel brisamar near iracema. not as good as where i was, but a bit cheaper and closer to theiracema action. cost for these places was about $35 a night. on abolicao there are plenty of "flats" - fully outfitted apartments for $40 or $45 a night. generally there is a 3 nuight minimum stay, but you can negotiate. good place to have a "party" ;-)
ok, on to what interests us, the action. things are pretty much as described in previous posts, but i'll give you my views/experiences. the tourist area of fortaleza has a roving band of pros, about 200-300 girls ranging from 1's to 10's, averaging 6-8 that moves around between mierelles and iracema depending on the night and time of night. the girls are all shades and types imaginable, except for oriental. prices are ridiculously cheap, 40-50 reals for all the girls except the fashion models (duno why 3's charge as much as 8's, but i just moved on after hearing the price). the 9/10's are charging 100 reals. at the present exchange rates, that means 13-15 bucks a pop, and 30 for the real high end.... of course, everyting is negotiable, but why not spend a little extra and have an extra-enthusiastic girl? what you do have to negotiate is length of time, usually the going rate is for 3 or 4 hours, but the girls will stay with you all night for the same price if you do a bit of sweet-talking. the night starts out on the street (this is one town where you can pick up decent girls on the street), but not on the beachfront promenade (ave. beira mar/ave jfk, depending which stretch of beach). the cops ahve chased the pros off the beachfront for image reasons and they are now all one block back from the beach (ave abolicao - ah-boh-lee-son). for the most part,the girls are "hanging out" on abolicao from the point behind the othon hotel (the where the street fair is at on the beachfront) on westwards to iracema, from about 8pm to midnightish (slimmer . they are not exactly leaning against lamposts and swinging a purse, but your instincts should be able to detect which girls are the pros - just about every girl you see, except for the ones waiting at the bus-stops. they don't "jump" you, but if you walk up to them and start up a conversation, ("where is there a good bar around here?" etc), they'll be pretty quick about getting to the point. actually just saying "oi" (hi) is enough. you can either cruise the avenue on foot (safe enough) or get a cab to cruise along slowly for you. certain corners are wall-to-wall girls, most noteably the area in front of the "giraffa tour park." there are also a lot of late-night hole-in-the-wall bars along abolicao, the girls usually stop in for refreshments, so if you aren'tthe cruising type, pick a bar and have a few beers till you see what you like. be mindful that abolicao is a "normal" avenue, not a red-light district, so you'll also meet people goign home from work, going out, taking a break from work, etc. nevertheless, any pretty young thing that shows up is probably fair game. as you get closer to the iracema district, there will be more girls, although not neccesarily better quality. (btw, i ran into some working girls in the late afternoon at one of the lunchcounter places in iracema... basically, if you keep your eyes open, you'll always find what you are looking for).
as i noted before, iracema has the clubs. for working girls,there are basically three clubs, and they all move from one to the other as the night goes on. first there is africa's, about two blocks dead inland from the "ponte metallica" pier, at the western end of iracema. the girls start going there around 9-10pm (they can get in free untill 11). all the girls there are pros, i didn't go there but heard (from some of my "dates") that the action there is kind of weak and the street is "better" at that time of night. then, a block east, there is porto bar (or oporto, i forget), which is actually a mix of pros and amateurs and a little more upscale. they are free for girls untill midnight, so that's why the "action" gravitates over there. last, there is the infamous desigual, right on the beach at the eastern edge of iracema (3 blocks from porto bar). there the girls get in free till 2am, so the action reaches a fever-pitch around 1ish and then simmers along all night. however, if you haven't found what you like by 2, then there ain't going to be anything new (and you must be blind!). there will still be some girls on the streets after 2am, but they are mostly desigual rejects, not worth your time... especially as the night wears on. as for the clubs themselves, they are just like regular discotheques - dark and loud, lots of booze, except all the girls are "available." start talking to whatever girl strikes your fancy, buy her a drink (always pays to be a gentleman) , dance with her if you like and then negotiate a price. btw, the drink prices at desigual's and porto are not at all exhorbitant (dunno about africa, but i assume they are ok too), about the same 2-3 reals for a big bottle of beer as anywhere else, ditto for mixed drinks. the entrance fee for guys was 15 or 20 reals (5 or 6 bucks), there was no "exit fee" for leaving with a girl. there is a perfectly good "motel" (village motel) about 3 blocks behind iracema, 30 reals for 3 hours (10 bucks) and the in-room drinks were not overpriced. it's probably your best bet for where to go, no other motels really nearby, and taking a girl back to your hotel is always risky (don't need her to know where you "live", do you?). that's pretty much it as too "how things are done". on a side note, there are girls along the beachfront promenade, but every one i saw or spoke with was a 5 and below (usually waaay below...scary). however, the beach bars stay open late (usually untill the last customer, and are a nice place to have a bit of dinner. if you are eating alone or with a group of guys, you will probably be apporached. for some reason the gals working the beach are much better caliber than there sisters 20 meters away on the sidewalk, go figure. likewise, any good-looking girl alone or with a girlpal hanging out on the beach after about 3pm is a good possibility for a "date." if you are interested, invite her/them for a beer and see what happens. they might not be pros, so don't assume, then again they may be interested in you anyhow, just go with the flow.
a digression, or maybe not, as i wrote up above, it pays to be a gentleman, even with the pros. the local girls are very used to pushy foreigners (especially italians, for whatever reason) flashing money and basically treating them like meat. they'll take the money, but they won't exactly give you a gf experience, or even much enthusiasm. if you've got an attitude, their attitude will be "let's get this over with." however, it costs you next to nothing to be a nice guy, treat all the girls with respect and dignity. ask tehm how they are, where they are from, strike up a conversation, invite them for a drink and a snack, even if you are on your way to a motel with them. they've been standing on the street for hours (or hopping between clubs), and a bowl of "caldo" (soup) or a misto (hot sandwich) is very appreciated. for some reason, all the girls that i was with (pros and non) love campari. i hate the stuff, but let them order themselves a drink (let them drink in the motel too, it's cheap - as long as everyone stays away from the imported whiskeys and chamagne - and it gets them "in the mood"). these girls, for the most part, are very poor, and are turning tricks so they can get a few extra luxuries in their life (or sometimes,unfortuantely just to survive). so give them the few extra luxuries they are looking for. if you go out with them later in the day (a distinct possibility), take them shopping a little. the $20 bucks you'll wind up spending will be amply repaid. the bottom lineis, everyone wants a little caring (ok, so i'm being corny). sure, for you it's about fulfilling your sexual fantasies, and for them it's about the benjamins, but a little caring helps pave the way and make it all much nicer. also, taking the time to have a drink or so with the girl you are interested in will give you a good notion of how your night with her is going to be - generally the girls who were very warm and friendly with me while we were "hanging out" were incredible in bed. on the other hand , a few girls that i initially thought would be great turned out to be cold fish once i was took the tie to talk to them. i didn't bother to go any further than that. admitedly, i speak fluent portuguese, but even without portuguese, you should be able to have some level of interaction (besides sexual). besides which , i wound up spending the night with a few girls "for free" just by bing a nice guy. ok, if you want to be an account, i actually wound up spending about the same amount of money as i did with the pros, once you include food and presents, but it's lots of fun.
back to practical matters, and this is very important. all girls must show their id cards when entering motels, clubs, and/or your hotel. this is to prevent sex with minors (under 18). as has been noted in other posts, do not go on "dates" with minors, it's a good way to wind up in a brazilian jail. all the pros carry their id's and will have no problem showing them to you. ask for them at some point after negotiating a price ("how old are you? can i see your carteira - car-tear-ah?"). check the birthdate (data de nascimento). it's for your protection as much as hers. speaking of which, i saw about a dozen tv's during my stay - hanging out at the same clubs and streetcorners as the regular gals. dunno about you, but no thanks for me! it's actually pretty easy to be fooled - the first one i saw i never would have suspected untill my "date" told me. the tv's were pretty stunning! in fact, that's the easiest way to tell - they are a bit too stunning, to good to be true. also, the average ceara gal is pretty short (5'2") and all the tv's i saw were supiciously tall. not to mention the jaw is a bit too square and you can usually see and adam's apple. however, thanks to the id cards, you don't have to play the guessing game. if the id picture is a guy.... of course, if that is your thang, then have fun! anyway, whatever happens. check id cards! and use a condom.
also, the "normal" club scene. every night of the week there is a "hot" club. piratas on monday..orbitas on thursday...ze do carangueijo (i think) down in praia do futuro on friday. ask around. also, the pro action is kind of dead on saturday and sunday (weekends, most of the customers are out with their regular girlfriends and most of the girls withtheir boyfirends if they've got them). either get yourslef a long-term date on friday or check out the newspaper fo routcall services, and "saunas." there is one gentlemen's club - [url]www.abelle.com.br[/url] - dind't try it, but looks good. and kind of dead doesn't mean totally, where there is a will there is a way!
last of all, if you like the girl you just spent the night with (and vice-versa), if you at all went out of your way to be a nice guy, it's pretty easy to set up an longer stay with her. generally al she will want is for you to cover her expenses and maybe a "tip" at the end (the nice way to say tip is an "agrado" - ah-grah-do - a "gratification" - generally $10 or $20 a day, depending on what you all did together). take her to praia do futuro for the day, i saw plenty of "gringos" with stunning locals over there (btw, you won't find any unattached pros over there, the clubs chase them off) . it's fun, the girl makes sure to get you the best food, orders your drinks, plays with you in the surf, slops suntan lotion on you, etc., and then when you are all beached out you head home with her. later on, she won't be at all pissed if you say, "it's been great, see you when i see you" and head back to iracema. up to you. if you really hit it off, invite her over to canoa quebrada, or lagoinha, or jericoacoara for a few days. again, you'll have a great time, and the girls are very easygoing. if you see some other chick you like, they won't be jealous. worse comes to worse, give them a nice tip and a bus ticket back to fortaleza. again, a pratical note, many of these girls have children (the people in ceara have kids very early, 15 or 16 year old mothers is not uncommon). often, that's why they are turning tricks. it's a fact of life, accept it. so the girls may not be able to spend more time with you becuase of their kids. usaully a relative is taking care of the kids during the night, but they may have no other way to take care of them during the day. be upfront about it. ask. offer to help with some "babysitting" money for a relative. use your head. tell her to go home, take care of business, and then meet you later. even so, sometimes practical matters means that she just can't spend more time with you. oh well, move on. (btw, don't go home with her - believe me, it's too grim and will spoil the fantasy - send a taxi to get her, whatever. you gotta be heartless sometimes too).
phew! enough rambling. if you go to fortaleza, have a great time! most of what i wrote, except for site-specific information applies to most anywhere in brazil. remember that there is a lot in brazil besides the working girl action, take the time to open your eyes and live in the place. and use condoms!
tom b.
Hi Tom,
I hope to get to Fortaleza in January 2003, but the trip from Rio by bus looks daunting (55 hours). Did you take the bus or fly. I believe the airline Gol is good value at about R 258 to salvador and getting to F from there (20 hours/ $55). Still a hell of a journey!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tomb
[i]Fortaleza was GREAT. It's a hell of long trip, but definitely worth it. I'm going to try and write up a punter's guide in this post, and I'll be happy to answer any questions as best I can.
Tom B. [/i][/QUOTE]
suba:
I flew. Do NOOOOOOOT take the bus. After 12 hours you will be cursing yourself, and your parents for having begotten you. Rio to Fortaleza is about the same distance as New York City to Mexico City (Paris to Bagdad if you are Euro-centric). Salvador to Fortaleza is about the same as NYC to Orlando, Florida. No thanks. I don't care how comfy the bus is (the "Leito" busses can be comfy, but pricey, almost as much as the plane), 20 hours in a rolling tin can is still hell. Do yourself a favor, fly. (For a contrarian view, read this: [url]http://www.bootsnall.com/cgi-bin/gt/travelstories/sa/jan00salvador.shtml[/url] . I suspect that the guy is short and masochistic.)
Assuming that you are still in the US or Europe and haven't bought your air tickets yet, here's what I did..... I bought a round-trip ticket NYC-Fortaleza from Varig, which cost me about $70 more than a NYC-Sao Paulo (or NYC-Rio) ticket. NYC-Fortaleza means flying all the way to Sampa and then almost 1/2 the way back again (Sampa is Brazil's main air hub). However, what you can do is take an indefinite *layover* in Sao Paulo, and take the shuttle flight ($75, give or take $25) to Rio or fly off to anywhere else in the south of Brazil, and then come back to Sampa later and "continue" your international flight. Works great. However, if this is not an option, then your best bet is to contact a Brazilian travel agency and have them arrange the trip for you - domestic air tickets are usually cheaper when purchased IN Brazil. Also Sampa-Fortaleza may be significantly cheaper than Rio-Fortaleza, so you might want to hop over there first. The cheapest ticket you can find is fine, but avoid TAM airlines... TAM's Fokker 100 planes have a nasty habit of falling out of the sky at the rate of one a week... their AirBusses are OK. If you want to visit any other cities in the Nordeste (you mentioned Salvador) on your way to Fortaleza, then a Brazil Airpass is definitely your best bet. Save up your cash and buy it (you can only buy it outside of Brazil).
OK, if you are staying long-term in Brazil (several months), and you are on a budget, then the bus won't kill you, just make you miserable. Break the trip up in several stages over a week or so, try and stick to overnight busses, take plenty of blankets AND A PILLOW (very important, to wedge into corners and make the seat more comfortable), and pack yourself a bag of road food/drink. Take sleeping pills if you are not good at dozing off in lousy conditions. The buses from Rio, Sampa, or Salvador to Fortaleza do not go along the coast (look at a map) but dead straight throughthe sertao - a huge scrubland desert. I think you'd be better off going Rio-Vitoria, Vitoria-Salvador, Salvador-Recife, Recife-Natal, Natal-Fortaleza, but to each his own....
Whatever you do, have fun!
Tom B.
Tomb,
Thanks for posting your trip report in such a detail. I also live in New York. I, along with a friend from Atlanta, have plans for a trip to Fortaleza this January. This will be my fourth trip to Brazil and the first to Fortaleza. I am certain that your post will help me a lot during my trip. I will be renting an apartment as I found it better way for mongering activity. What do think?
How about posting some photos of the girls that you met during your trip? If not, Please email me at Jose425@hotmail.com We can swap some photos. Thanks again for so much valuable info.
Jose:
Absolutely, if you are going to spend a few days straight in Fortaleza (I didn't), then an apartment is the way to go, especially if you are going to "party". The only advice I can think of giving is to make sure and get one in the Meirelles or Aldeota areas, as they are closest to the "action." If you don't have a place picked out already, get a "Flat" (fully furnished short-term rental apartment) along Av. Abolicao. Check out http://www.flatshop.com.br/residence.htm - they are a booking service, but you can call any of the flats they list directly (you'll have to hunt around on the Internet a bit for the numbers) - BTW their general Fortaleza page has some good pics, including one that gives you a good idea of what Praia do Futuro is like. January is high season, so you will be better off getting reservations made well in advance. Otherwise, you could just walk around Mierelles untill you find what you like.
I'll have some pictures on CD next week, but only of the non-pros I was with - too "occupied" when I was with the working girls. But I'll post them anyhow.
You've pretty much outlined my next "dream" vacation - grab a like-minded buddy or two (to share expenses and swap war stories), fly to Fortaleza, rent a big flat, stock it with booze and b*tches, and laissez les bon temps roller!
Have a blast and keep us posted...
Tom B.
poturu:
I hear many good things about the non-pro action in Cali, Columbia, although I've never been there. Generally, anywhere that you go and can be charming and reasonably generous will getyou all the non-pro action you can handle. Of course, you need more TIME with a non-pro than a pro, so 10 day s may be a problem.. in other words, even in S.A., most girls don't give out on the first date. Also, in general, I'd go to a smaller city rather than a huge city, just because there is less competition, and a less afleunt area of the country becuase they will be more appreciative of your "generosity". So, in Brazil, head for the Northeast - Recife, Fortaleza, Acaraju, Joao Pessoa, Natal, Salvador, and any smaller towns up and down the coast that you want to visit.
Good Luck!
Tom B.
poturu:
I'm sorry! I had a brain-fart, not Cali, you'll get killed in Cali, don't go there! I meant Cartagena, it's a beautiful colonial town, full of beautiful Columbianas (just stay away from the snow, OK?). Don't know Pasto, never heard of it. But try northeast Brasil instead of Columbia, it' s also beautiful and so are the girls.
Tom
Hi Tomb,
I will go to fortaleza end of October. I was there the last time in March/April. It was good even when the weather was not so good like in October or November. I was three time in Fortaleza and three times in Rio. Compare with Rio the girls in Fortaleza are much cheaper but also I have to tell it not so pretty. OK, it's possible to find a good looking girl also in Fortaleza but the average girls are not so pretty like a average girl in Rio and all Brazilian citiesen tell you the girls in the north east are not pretty. If you like good looking girls go to Columbia. I saw a lot of Columbian pros in Frankfurt where I life and they are mostly very pretty. But nevertheless I had never a problem to find a pretty girl in Fortaleza too, also it's very cheap, very safe and perfect weather.
Please Tomb tell me how is the situation in Fortaleza now. Somewhere in this Forum I have read that Zip and Desiqual is closed? Is there a new place for finding pros?
Till next time
DG
DG:
Desigual is still open, Zip's is closed, there are two new "pro" discos in Iracema - Africa's and Porto Bar. Read my trip-report post down below.
As for the quality of girls in Fortaleza, yes the average girl in the Northeast is not a stunner, but neither is the average girl in Rio. Among the pros, remember that the "cream of the crop" from all over Brazil goes to Rio and Sao Paulo. (Likewise, only the prettiest Colombianas make it to Frankfurt, the ugly ones stay home). The pro girls you see elsewhere are the "farm team" or "second division", so to speak. However, there are still more than enough 9+ girls in Fortaleza, you just have to look a bit harder than you do in Rio/Sao Paulo (and pay much less). One girl I was with that I considered "average" in Fortaleza was a spitting image of Debora Winger in "An Officer and a Gentleman" (IMHO). Not a playboy model, but great fun. Another was your typical dark latin beauty, maybe a bit too short. I saw several girls nightly that I'd sell my soul for (maybe I already have...), but already had my hands full when I ran into them. On the other hand, I saw some other pro girls that made me want to take a vow of celibacy so I'd never have to get anywhere near them... It's all the luck of the draw, admitedly there are more stunners in Rio, but there are enough to keep you very busy in Fortal. For what it's worth, everywhere else I've been in the Northeast (Recife, Bahia, Seregipe, Natal), they tell me that the most beautiful girls are in Fortaleza. Go figure.
I've been asked by several friends what is a better "deal" - Fortaleza or Rio. If you are coming from the US, which means that you ahhave to fly to Sao Paulo and then 4 hours more back to Fortaleza, I'd say that if you are going for a short time (4-5 days or less) then Rio, if you are going for a long time (5-6 days or more) then Fortal. Coming from Europe, of course, there are direct flights to Fortaleza, so the equation may be different. Also, lets be honest, if you want the true "Creme de la creme", movie star and magazine model quality pro, then go to Sao Paulo - but be prepared to pay for it!
Tom B.
Hi Tom,
you are right of course it is possible to find everywhere good looking girls, even in Fortaleza and yes they are very cheap and also very nice. The most pro's whose I have picked up in Desigual, or Zip, or Africa wants to be my girlfriend after one or two days. But I have to say that the real stunner something like a 9+ it's in my opinion not easy to find in those locations, because I have a similar taste like the Brazil people have. I like women with a European (better to say a mediteranean) look and they should have a butt like Jennifer Lopez and a wesp waist, too. You see I'm very fastidiously and that is my real problem I think.
If you honest you will agree with me that almost all pro's in Fortaleza have native Brazilian roots (Indios) and they are usually small, have no wesp waist have a flat butt and a round belly. Of course there are always a few pretty girls there, but they are expensive and have mostly already a client.
The normal local girls (no pro's) whose you can find in shopping centre, or in normal discothecs or in the culture centre can be very pretty but they are not easy to have if you not speak Portugese.
OK, back to the point, Fortaleza is great anyways, it's cheap, very good weather, beautiful beaches, no much crime, good food and good drinks. So I will spend my next holiday there.
Please tell me there was a waitress in Zip she is a Mulatta with a pretty face and a great butt, do you know her and do you know where she works now?
Is Porto Bar also knowen under the name cafe del Mar? What is the place to go before 12 o'clock at night? Before it was Zip and than Africa and at least Desiqual. Ok, till next time. Btw, I life in Frankfurt and I know many girls from Colombia and in the most cases they are above 8.
Best Regards!
Dieter
Dieter:
You remarks about the "average" girl in Fortalaza are pretty dead on, but there is enough deviation from the norm to keep anyone happilly occupied. Also, this coast of Brazil suffered successive invasions by the Dutch and the French and those influences are still to be found, even if it was 400 years ago (nothing more beautiful than a mullata with green eyes!). As for the best girls being taken, you are looking in the wrong places or too late at night. Yes, the best are more expensive, but that means $R100/night instead of R$50, so what? The "best of the best" do sometimes go to Desigual's but you probably will have better luck at Porto Bar a little earlier, or a regular club. Remember that Fortaleza has one "hot club" each night - Priata's on Monday...Orbita on Wednesday...Ze do Carangueijo on Thursday, etc. etc. just ask around, find out where the night's hot spot is goign to be, and go there around 11PM-midnight. You'll have to use your "nose" to figure out who the pros are, but it's not too hard!
Porto Bar is about 2 blocks inland from the Ponte Metallica, don't know about Cafe del Mar (which I think is right on the seafront). And, no I didn't see any mullatta waitress at Disigual, but then again, I was pretty "occupied" while there, and most all I saw of the waitresses was the beer in there hands. Anyway, I can almost guarantee you that the waitresses at Disiguals won't go out with any customers. And read my long post from about two weeks ago for an idea of the current Fortaleza scene, where to go, etc.
Enjoy your trip to Fortaleza!
Tom B.
Hi Tom,
you are true, there is everyday at week a special place to go. On weekend you should go to Mucuripe and on Tuesday to "Halo Brazil" and on Monday of course to Pirata. Cafe del Mar is a small music pub and have two floors is left and than right again from the restaurant Estoril. This pub was Thursday the place to go at a time from 11 to 1 o'clock in the night.
Sorry there was a mistake this Mulatta was from Zip and not from Desigual. You are right again the girls there or better to say the most girls there like to fuck and they fuck usually very good.
It is possible to have a waitress from Africa, Zip or Desiqual as a girlfriend of course, this means that you stay with them a long time.During this time you should not try to sleep with a pros, because she would know that and than you better not more go to the Discothek where she works. Sometimes the waitresses from Africa or Zip go to Desiqual after they have free to find a boyfriend. This means not that you pay for them 50 Reais the night but you will bear their expenses, go shopping with them and to restaurants.
Some of this girls have several friends and they send them letters and money from there hometowns. This girls have to manage that they not come to the same time to Fortaleza.
Till next time!
Dieter
Hi Tomb,
i`m planning to go to Fortal next week so i was checking the policies of some hotels or flat-services, and most of them are quite restrictive on bringing girls back to your room. Tried with finding something through flatshop.com.br and they answered "visitas não permitidas da meia-noite ás cinco da manhã". E-mailed Marina Praia and they answered that it was allowed only between midnight and 5 am, and only if the girl looks and behaves in a discrete way. What was your experience with that hotel? Let`s say you see an apartment house that looks OK, can you just jump in and rent something or do you have to go through an agency which may be further away? I`m asking that cuz my flight arrives in the evening and i want to fix my stay before i start the trip.
Another thing...can i safely rent a car without risking a major crash or are the "cearense" drivers more or less chaotic like the greek drivers.
Did you already post some pictures somewhere on the site?
paolino:
have a great time in fortaleza!
as for a place to stay, i really dont' think you'll have too many problems. there is often a lot of leeway between "official policy" and reality. the only thing that really concerns the guys at teh reception desk is making sure that the girls ar not **** - they are personlayy accountable, by law.
suggestions:
marina praia, as i've written before is convenient, clean, cheap, etc., i'd at least use them as my base of operations for my first night straight off the airplane (use a motel if you have any problems with bringing in a girl) and then look around for a flat that you like (not applicable in january/february when you need advanced reservations for the flats). you'll have no problem bringing girls after midnight - walter, the night receptionist could care less. make friends with him and leo, the day guy, and you'll be fine. you might have problems taking a wg with you to breakfast downstairs, so what, go eat somewhere else.
hotel brisa mar, closer to iracema, is a bit cheaper than marina praia, but about the same quality of room. ask for a room in their annex, which means that you don't have to go thru their lobby, and no problem again, although i doubt that they care about working girls...
flatshop is an agency that books you into flats. they don't actually manage or own the flats themselves, so they are just giving you a blaket statement to cover their own asses. flatshop is good if you can't speak portuguese at all, otherwise, just use their listing of flats to find the names of flats in fortal and then use google to find phone numbers/websites and contact them directly. or use google and yahoo.br to find flats yourself. one suggestion - apart hotel atlandida on av. abolicao (you'll have to find the phone # yourself), a friend of mine is staying there and lovingit - no problems with girls. again, i'd just reserve my room and then make friends with the night receptionist. anyway, flats work a bit differently from hotels, you are truly a tenant with rights to do whatever youwant, except burn the place down. it's a short-term lease. and no, you can't just jump in and rent a normal apartment, incredible amounts of paperwork are involved, check out the fortaleza guide at [url]www.bootsnall.com.[/url]
you can safely rent a car, but why? why get lost, why deal with traffic, why go thru the aggravation? cearense drivers aren't as dangerous as greek, but city driving is always a pain, and countryside driving can be dangerous if only becuase high speeds and livestock crossing the road don't mix. taxi's in fortal are cheap, and dune buggy drivers to get you up and downthe coast are all over the place. admitedly, fortaleza-jericoacoara, about the furtherst you'd be goign, in an suv with driver will cost you us$100 one way (which you can split with other people), still better than driving for 5 hours, imho. other, closer, beaches are cheaper - i.e. $50 to canoa quebrada. heck, for short jaunts, take the bus. just my opinion.
tom b.
Tomb,
thanx for the information, always clear and efficient!
I think i will try Marina Praia like you said. And it shouldn not be a problem making friends with the receptionists as i speak some portuguese (some chick told me that i spoke like a paulista).
thanks again!
Paolino:
You're welcome. Marina Praia is just a regular 2-star hotel, nothing special, clean rooms, parquet wooden floors. Get a large-sized bed for obvious reasons. It's a good "base of operations" but not the ideal "love nest" - go to a motel for that, R$30 for 3 or 4 hours. Not that you CAN'T bring a girl back to the hotel, but why run the risks of having her know where you are staying or going thru your sh-t while you are sleeping or in the bathroom? (BTW, Marina Praia, like most hotels, has a asafe for your valuables). After spending all the time and money to get to Fortaleza, a few more bucks for a motel isn't going to hurt you, and motels can be fun - big round bed, jacuzzi, cheap room service. And as I mentioned, Marina Praia may be a good place to settle in till you find EXACTLY what you want. I also used it to leave my stuff while on 2-3 day trips up the coast, had people leave me messages, drop things off, send mail, etc. etc, it's a home away from home. Tell them Tom, the Gaucho-Americano sent you, that should get you kicked out on the spot ;-) (and good luck trying to hit Lu, the estagaria...). BTW, be careful not to let anyone confuse Marina Praia (behind Hotel Beira-Mar on R. Paulo Barros) with Marina PARQUE, which is an over-priced 5-star hotel way up the other side of town.
Tom B.
i suggest this hotel, in Praia de Iracema
http://www.hotelcasadepraia.com.br/index.htm
Anybody know it???
Hmm, if they are really R$50-$60, that's a great price! And it's certainly well located for all the Iracema fun and games. Dunno the hotel, but sure looks good on the website.
Another suggestion: Hotel Olimpio in Mierrelles. 4 stars, beachfront (i.e. expensive, but doable in US$). No problem at all with the receptionists (portaria aberta). Also there's a good flat at Av. Antonio Justa 2324, again in Mierelles, dunno the name, just a suggestion.
In the meantime, I checked the "Diario do Nordeste" for GP's. Prices continue to be R$50 to $100. Two new "boates" in IRacema (to pick up GP's), Vagao Plaza (right in front of Priata's) and Stilus. R$10 to go in. Ask any cab driver where they are. Upscale college girls for R$100. And a new clinica: R. Nunes Valente 2145, dunno the name. R$60/hr, R$70/2hr, "massage" followed by "relax", but no anal.
Tom B.
Hi all,
Found this nightlife link for Fortaleza. In Portugesse, but from what I tranlated, details the different quarters of the town along with the rough areas.
[url]http://domains.owbn.org/fortaleza/cenario.htm[/url]
SC
guys,
is it REALY true that brasil girls LOVE it analy?? iow they love to get a cock down their asshole???
I mean in Eastern Europe this is hard to find....
do they also suck dick without a rubber??
would the experts here think Fortaleza SW or semi-sw are cheaper then in Rio/SP??
whatr about the butt-factor?? Do brasil women realy have those fabulous butts??
I mean can they hold up with COLOMBIANAS on this one???
regards,
johan.
Hi Johan,
some of them make it some not. I would say from my experience, 20% do enjoy it, 30% make it after they know you better, so after the second or third night or they make it in the first night but don't enjoy it. Make shure that you do it slowly and with lubricant. 50% don't do it or only when you pay much more.
Yes they suck without rubber, but the most don't like it and make it not very good.
They are cheaper, I pay usually 50-70 Reais for the night, a real Stunner will do it for 100 Reais and there was last time some girls from SP and Rio who wants 250 Reais but you can bargain and get it cheaper, but mostly there are some guys who pay this high prize.
The most pros and semi pros in Fortaleza are 150 -160 cm high, with flat butts and round belly. Look not too good, but you can always find some with a cute face, but girls with a cute face and a great body with a huge butt are very rare and such girls are expensive.
DG
I disagree with our German friend on relative beauty of nordestinas, you can find 8-9 with no problem, Rarer than Rio, but cheaper too,about 1/2 price. But he is right, the real native cearensa from the backlands is not much too look at. Ethnically, they are a mix of portuguese and Indian, they don't have much black blood to make them beautiful, poor girls... Still, there is enough variety in Fortaleza to keep you more than satisfied.
As for girls that are "completa" or that give BBJJ, all the girls that I was with did both, but that's ahrdly a statistical sample! ;-)
Tom B.
Hi Johan,
obviously our American friend has an other taste as I. But you asked about butts, I can asure you and Tomb if you are objective you will agree, the butts of the Hookers in Fortaleza are not as fabulous like their colombian sisters. Also they has a awful kind of fashion their, the most hookers wear that hip troussers, which is pretty if the girl is slim and tall and have a wesp waist. All that the average Fortalezian girl don't have.
Of course you can find there pretty girls for example in the Pirata disco on Mondays, on Mucuripe Disco on Weekends on Dragao do Mar at every evening, but that are mostly Brasilian Tourists from the South, from Rio, SP or Minas Gerais or the local upper and middle class Ladies. If you want pickup such a girl than it's help when you speak Portugese, can dance the local dance (like Fohor), if you are pretty and rich. If you have not all of them than it will be not more so easy or you need a lot of time before you get laid.
The most Hookers in the disco Desigual, Africa, Cafe do Mar, Zip, etc. are ethnically from that Indio type without much european influence and they have usually IMHO a flat ass, small hips and a round belly like a man with a beer belly. Of course I'm very fastidiously, maybe too fastidiously and you can also find 7's and 8's maybe sometimes two or three 9's Hookers in that places. But if you are a butt lover than it's not the right place for you.
Nevertheless Fortaleza is a very nice place for vacation and the Hookers there are cheap and mostly very friendly girls, the climate is one of the best in the world, it's relatively safe there and the food and the drings are very good.
Tomb if I understand you right, you have with every girl whose you had there anal sex? You must be born under a lucky star. I was in the last 2 years 3 times in Fortaleza. Everytime 3 - 4 weeks. I guess I have slept there with about 30 Hookers and I usually ask before I take them what service they provide, often I reject a girl if she provide no Anal sex. I was there with friends and of course at the day after, we share our experiences, like the girls in Desigual too. I usually rent a private apartment when I'm there and so I know also many expats there, so I can say I know a little the hooker szene in Fortaleza and what they provide and what not. Not all make Anal sex, many girls don't like it and do it only for more money or if they like you very much, or they simple don't do it at all.
BJ are not to important for me, usually I don't ask for and I never force a woman to do that, especially because I don't like to do cunilingus by a hooker too. If she offer a BJ I enjoy it of course, mostly I have sex without a BJ their. From my friends whose like BJ I know that their performance is not the best in the world.
OK, thats all for today!
DG
DG:
I'm not disagreeing with you - the average Cearense girl is much how you described in looks, fashion, and behaviour. But Fortaleza is big enough that you can easily find girls that are well above average. Also, many of the girls that are visiting Fortaleza from down south have come with their female friends are are on the prowl themselves... Then again, I speak portuguese fluently, so that helps a lot.
And I was much, much less "active" than you were during my trip to Fortal - only 5 girls and some clubbing around. Then again, I wasn't in Fortal purely for 'mongering, so I wasn't able to properly dedicate myself to the task! ;-) So that's why I was "lucky" - pure happenstance. As for oral skills, your informal "survey" seems to be correct - for me one girl was outstanding, three were average, and one was no good. All sans condom, for what it's worth.
Heh guys,
Maybe you could post a pic or two, and let the public decide on whether the girls from Fortaleza are hot or not!!
SC
Yo Tomb,
came back from Fortaleza yesterday and i must say that your big report about the city was pretty correct. Here are some more things:
- I found the "hot spot" around Africa, Cafe del Mar pretty dead on the sole saturday i was in Fortaleza city, i dont know if it was because of some national celebration or what.
- On every other day i liked moving with the flow of girls that mainly moved from Africa to Cafe del Mar (or O Porto which i did not like cuz it looks a bit shabby inside), and ended up in Desigual. Never went inside Desigual cuz i always found mine before so i did not think necessary to get more drunk and less "performant".
- Before the night you can try the beach promenade in on praia do Meireless/Nautico; you will see some girls in the beach bars, but prepare to move your head sideways from left to right cuz you will get assaulted by sellers of every kind.
- A good thing to try is to make friend with a garcon in one of these beach bars so he will chat up with some of the girls that go suntanning on the Meireless beach; sometimes it works but make sure youßll get like 3 or 4 phone numbers to end up in a real rendez-vous cuz many girls from "good family" will not appear at all....so fill your address book.
- Try to go to the Centro and make some eye contact with the girls working in the box-shops; i tried once and got some positive feedback, but as i was already with my cutie at that time i did not manage a rdv). It is worth trying, and besides you will pay much less for shopping there than near the beach. Take a moto taxi 3-4 Rs to there if you like extreme sports!
- I made friends at one of the first beach bars on Meireless and they took me one night at a place called New Scalibu on the beginning of Praia do Futuro; 20 girls, some 7-8, 20 bucks a pop.....but here comes the shit: coming in at 10pm we were the only customers inside, no music, and all the girls sitting in front of a small television watching a telenovela. Fucking about 30 minutes (negotiable to 45 minutes! wow!) was upstairs in one of the rooms which i did not even want to imagine. Anyway, we returned to Iracema after 1 beer and no fuck. But it is worth the trip if you like decadence and a real dirty ambient.
- About the hotels: first i was in Hotel Casa da Praia which has good matresses, cheap price, good service, individual safe in the room and a very cute receptionist in the morning. Charge 10Rs per guest. Moved to Hotel Marina Praia on Meireless and found them pretty friendly, good service, same price level. A good thing is that the reception remembers you and reaches your key even before you tell them your room number (not like in some big hotels where anyone can ask for the key of your room; may sound a bit paranoid but i hear strange things in spanish hotels...)
- Went with my cutie to praia Canoa Quebrada, about 2 1/2 hours by car from Fortaleza; it is really worth the visit. Nice beach, good food, good vibes from the ragga brothaz, and some garotas of course. The place is a big surrealistic at night cuz it looks a bit like a western scenario; the main street is called Broadway and it is a sandy/dust strip that crosses the village from the center to its east end, with bars and boates on the left and right everyone playing its own type of music. Try bar Todo Mundo, from there you get a nice view on the hot spot of the place. I saw even the receptionist of the pousada i was (Pousada California) hanging around that spot. I could only recommend this place for the weekends which are less agitated in Fortaleza; it is very small but i think if you are alone there you will get your pop for cheap and for sure. Did not try it though, cuz i was with my girl.
Another thing: i dont wanna sound boring or moralistic, but do not treat the girls like shit cuz many of them dont do it cuz "they like it" like some say. Sure brazilian girls are very good in bed, but many of the girls i was with only do it cuz they have a child to support or cuz they want to meet the gringo that could get them out of Brasil. This is not a preach, it is only being a bit gentle and show some respect.
Paolino:
Thanks for the props, glad you had fun! How's Lu at Marina Praia doing? ;-)
I'm also glad that you piked up on my main philosophy: treat people right and good things will come your way - waiters, cabbies, girls, receptionists... it's all good. Also, as you saw, it's pretty hard NOT to get hooked up in Fortaleza - my own reports were not more any more comprehensive because I was pretty "busy" from day zero....
Welcome back to reality! hehhehehehe
Tom B.
Tomb,
is Lu the "dark blonde" receptionist with maybe 2 or 3 kilos in excess? well, i liked her but as i only was there for 2 days (the rest i spent in Canoa Quebrada i did not have the opportunity to make more of it.
Talking about business, how do you find the "mulatas" from Ceara? I never was in Bahia, but judging on pictures i saw i think bahianas are more african type with a rounder face and thicker lips (yummmm!). Cearenses have a thinner face and look less attractive than those i saw in pics (but, it was only pics...). maybe you can tell me more about that.
Just curiosity: did you "meet" a girl with the name starting with S in Fortaleza?
Paolino:
Yeah, that pretty much describes Lu. Cute girl.
I had a lengthy series of posts on this forum about Ceara girls in relation to others (with a german guy, DG). Scroll down to find it, but basically we agreed that in general, Ceara girls ain't as pretty as further south. My theory is that is becuase there is more Portuguese and Indian influence and less black, so the girls don't have the full spectrum of brazilian beauty, but who knows? However, there are more than enough "diamonds in the rough" in Fortaleza to keep you busy. Just because the average is well, average, doesn't mean that you can't look for and get the best. As for mullatas and black girls, Salvador is the heart of the African influence in brazil, it is probably the most African city in the Americas, so if that's your preference, iSalvador is definitely the palce to go. Personally, I'm always more interested in attitude rather than a specific look, so there are great girls anywhere you go...
A girl named "S"? Hmm, let's see, I was with a "Suzy", but not in Fortaleza. In Fortal the only name I *remember*, besides Lu(ciana), is Maria Villani... f- 'em and forget 'em, I'm such a dog.... actually I'm just lousy with names. Why do you ask? (is she pregnant?!? hehehehe). Tell me her name (email if you want) and what she looks like and I might remember.
Cheers,
Tom B.
Tomb,
no she aint pregnant, at least i dont think so. her name was Sabri and she has a lighter skin, very pretty girl and she she looked less "obvious" than the usual pros.
Another thing: Guys, try not to pay more than 50 if you look average and not more than 100Rs if you dont look that good....i mean this place is one of the cheapest around so PLEEEEZE do not to inflate prices up to Rio levels.
tanks alot
Paolino:
I was kidding about the pregnancy! No, I can't remember any Sabri/Sabrina. Why do you ask anyway? You know there are a LOT of pros in Fortal and the chances of mehaving "met" one you were with is pretty slim....
As for prices, I was paying R$40 in August (it was about US$15 then) and telling girls to take a hike at R$50. The very top girls wanted R$100, whichis fine, but I had my hands full already. All in all, excellent prices, but it's quite a haul to get there (at least from the States), so don't go there to be cheap. The main advantage of going there, besides more bang for your buck, is being able to go up the coast to one of the paradisical beaches with one or two great girls in tow... Like you di dto Canoa Quebrada.
As for price inflation, the problem is not Americans, Canadians or Brits (the main readers of this board, I think), but Italians and Germans. The city is over-run with them becuase they have direct flights. And the girls know that they can take advantage of them. As always, if you get quoted a ridicualous price (above R$50 for most girls, above $R200 for the models), just walk. There are plenty of fish in the sea....
Tom B.
Hi Tomb,
i am looking for reports about Campo Grande and Cuiaba, but there are no links here for these cities. Asked Jackson by email how to, but got no answer. Can you tell me how to create a Campo Grande link? do you know something about those cities? i mean about the "business"...
tanks alot man!
paolino:
Your questions would fit under the "other areas" thread in this forum.
Campo Grande and Cuiaba are both relatively small cities (a few hundred thousand pop), nothing special. They're both the kinds of places that girls get away from to go work in Rio and Sao Paulo. I dont' know the "scene" in either, as I was 12 years old when I went to both. But, if you're not specifically interestedin doing something else nearby (visit the Pantanal, Bonito, or the Chapada Guimaraes), then I wouldn't make the trip there.
Tell us about Sabrina in Fortaleza! Inquiring minds want to know... ;-)
Tom B.
What are the current rates n Fortaleza for short time and all night. Also, can u take a SW into the nicer Hotels. lik Caesar.
was there 1 month ago and did not pay more than 50R for an allnighter and the girls were amongst the best looking around the place (i mean the area around Cafe del Mar, Africa and Desigual). you must not say yes to any price, if you look ok 50R or even less is current rate. If you really want to be charitable then tip her 10 or 20 more when she leaves and only if the job was done well.
have good fun!
Paolino
Prices haven't changed much from August, then. All-night as opposed to short-time really depends on how much the girl "likes" you, the prices aren't any different. Short-time is usually 3-4 hours. Read my Fortaleza report a few pages back for more practical details of Fortaleza girls, but for the most part, "all-night" means that they grab the bus to go home around 6-7AM. They often have kids at home that have to be taken care of, so that explains why the early exit. Nevertheless, if there is mutual interest, setting up a LT is pretty easy to do, just give a few reals tip and pay for a cab or whatever.
Tom B.
Hi bubbagump69,
I`m actually in Fortaleza, the usual price for a allnighter is still between 50 and 100 Real. It`s not too difficult to find a girl for 50 Real, but the stunners ask for more. Something around 100 Real for one hour or 200 Real for the night. This depends on the situation. If they like you it could happens that they don`t want money from you. But of course I would give them in any way some money, 50 Real is not much money. An other influence is how is offer and inquires side. In the moment and it will increase until end of February Fortaleza is packed with Italian guys and many girls are now in Europe (mostly Italy and Netherland where the most foreign tourists in Fortaleza come from). Really good looking girls find now in any chase a customer and so there is now reason for them to lower the price. Also if you know some Portugese and you are not a shy guy than you can it have cheaper (50 Real +).
To bring a girl into a Hotel, I don`t know exactly because I only live in private appartments. I know from Holiday Inn and IBIS that it`s should not be a problem as long the girl is over 18 years old, has a ID-Card and look not too ugly.
Tomb,
I know here a girl called Sabrina, but I guess here a some girls with that name. The Sabria I know is with, about 1,55 or 1,6 m high, has a good figure and brown hair. Also, she usuall smills all the time.
Ah, Tomb again you wrote:
As for price inflation, the problem is not Americans, Canadians or Brits (the main readers of this board, I think), but Italians and Germans. The city is over-run with them becuase they have direct flights.
I`m disagree with you in that point. Yes it`s true the most foreign Tourists in Fortaleza come from Italy and the Netherlands, there are also some Germans and people from Swiss and Austrians, but look to countries like Mexico, Costa Rica, Russia, Vietnam in that countries Americans are the main Traveller and this places have very high prices. Areas with not many American tourists like Fortaleza, Cuba are still cheap.
DG
DG69:
Hope you are enjoying Fortaleza. If you have the time, go to Jericoacoara, right NOW! You won't regret it. If not, go to Canoa Quebrada, it's also worth it.
If you are using the Internet Cafe in Iracema (the one that serves Cachaca), there is a good lunchonete for picking up pros in the afternoon right next door. And go across the street to Habana Cafe (orange Building on corner) and smoke a Cohiba for me, will you? ;-)
Tschüs!
Tom B.
Hi Tomb/DG69,
I have been trying to check out one bedroom/studio flat prices pre arrival. I know local prices are only 200 - 400 a month, but was thinking of staying in the San Phillip Flat Hotel (1,000 R for a full month) - free with coffee, and room service.
Do you have any contacts that deal with flats (anything with 4 walls and a roof is sufficient) or know anything about the San Phillip Flat Hotel?
http://www.rotaceara.com.br/sanphillip/
Regards,
mike
suba:
Check out [url]www.flatshop.com.br.[/url] Also make sure that you get DAILY roomservice. Dirty sheets in the morning are a pain (and you are planning on getting those sheets messed up, aren't you? ;-) ).
Tom B.
Hi Subaculture,
yes Flat Shop is a good tip. Ask for Adriana she speaks English. I got my Apartment for 35 Real per day. Has Aircon (which is not necessary because Fortaleza is on of the most windy area in the world), kitchen, living room with TV, Bedroom with douple bed and of course Sanitary room with shower (hot water). The rooms are clean and there is a 24 h security service. The place is pretty save.
Hi Tomb,
yes Fortaleza is great, but also Canoa. I have spend the weekend there. Jericoacoara is only good if you go there with a girl. There is difficult to find one. The beach there is dirty, but the sweet water lakes in the dunes are great. In Canoa it at the weekends party time. Many joung people from Aracati are there. Also some hooker. Unfortunately the good looking girls are mostly no hookers. I hit there a no pros from Aracati. She is 19 years old and very pretty. Unfortunately she was a hard nut. I costs me hours of frenche kissing before I could touch her tits and a second night with hours of french kissing again before she has take out her clothes. She was a virgin and I don`t want to change this and so we had only the Russian style of Sex. Me lips was wound after that session. But, of course it was also very funny.
Good place to meet non pros in Fortaleza are the shopping centres Iguatemi and Aldeota, or the disco Pirata at Monday and Mucuripe at weekends, also good is Dragao do Mar during the week.
Good place to meet pros, outside the discos Desiqual, Africa and Cafe do Mar is the beach Praya Foturo Baraca Chico de Caranguejo and Itaparika. Or at the afternoon the beach road along Beira Mar. Also good are some Massage saloons which are not easy to find but ask a taxi driver to bring you there. Beside the Internet cafe at Praya Iracema is on the side a Sorvetteria and at the other side was a restaurant bar Paulista, but is closed now. The owner, a pretty woman, you can still find in Desiqual where she now works again.
Sorry Tomb I`m non smoker and so I will not have this cohiba. But there are more healthy ways of enjoyment. Yesterday I had a very pretty 19 years old Morena clara. She had a very tasty body, skin smooth like silk but flesh hard like steel. Also, yesterday I had meet a woman from Sao Paulo she wants 300 Real for the night, a absolut rediclious price, but in Sao Paulo is this still Ok I guess.
DG
DG:
Restaurante Paulista is the place I was talking about, too bad it closed, but looks like you are keeping yourself well "occupied" anyway. Inquiring minds want to know - what is the "Russian style of sex"????
;o)
Tom B.
Hi Tomb,
the Russian Style of Sex: The man moved his dick between the legs of the girl. The girl press her legs together and so she can have also fun aslong the dick moved along her clit. Sounds not very funny but it is better than the defloration of a virgin.
DG
DG:
Poor Russians! And why do you think that anal sex is so popular in Brazil? Because it is a strict Catholic country, so there are no legal abortions and girls are (or at least were) expected to be virgins when they get married. Therefore.....
;-)
Tom B.
Hi Tomb,
to named that kind of sex, Russian style and other kind of sex, French, English, Spain, Greek and Italian style was a invitation of the Danish people. In their Brodells they offer several kinds of sex and all unusal kind of sex must come from foreign countries. I guess in Russia this style is not the most practis style.
Yoy are right Anal sex is popular in Brasil, they call it Coconut, but with that one girl from Canoa it would not be possible. She was too shy and unexpierenced and I had not too much time. If I would stay with her longer it would be possible. But, there was also a other problem, she told me that she is 19 years old, but I never saw her ID. Maybe she is under 18 years and you know what that means. Guys never take a pros under 18 years, with non pros I'm not sure. You can marry her if the parents say yes if she is 14 years old. But if the police catch you with a pros under 18 years than there are three scenarios.
1. You can give the police some 50 real and they let you go.
2. They bring you to the police station and than you have to pay every police man there 50 reals.
3. You will come to a jugde, 2 years minium in a Brasil Jail house. Be sure if you have blond hair, blue eyes and you are not totally ugly you will be the Star under the male loving jail house population.
DG
Hi guys,
I have read in previous posts that there are direct flight to Fortaleza from Europe. Can anybody tell me which airline and from which hub (London ? Paris ? Amsterdam ? Frankfurt ? Brussels ?) there are such direct flights ???
Any info would ber much appreciated ....
Thank you in advance, RO
Hi Rob,
yes there are direct flights from Europe. From Frankfurt with TAP (Air Portual), via Lisbon. But it`s a pain in the ass, while there is a 6 hours stop in Lisbon. Of course you can visit Lisbon, it`s a nice city. I guess from other Cities where TAP has shuttle flights to Lisbon should it also be possible.
Than there is a direct flight with Dutch Bird (ex Martin Air) from Amsterdam via Palma de Mallorca. And I have heard that there is an Allitalia flight from Milan. Maybe there are some more, but I don`t know them.
Tomb,
sorry for the wrong info. Yesterday I saw the internet cafe you had descript a few posts ago. I thought you mean that in the Av. Mon. Tabosa. But now I know you mean that in that big old white building not far from Zip Bar. The lunchonete is still open, but has not the name Paulista.
Some other info may be useful for all others. At the time when Fortaleza is packed with Italians. That`s in August (When the whole country has holiday) and from November till February when the worker of the Italian tourism industry has Holiday, than is here high season. The price rise up to 100 Real for a pros minimum and much more for a real stunner. I have heard that in December and January it`s not possible to get any pros for less than 200 Real. But I was never there at that time.
DG
Currently in Fortaleza. It great! The wowen have a kinder softer look to them and have great thin bodies. Very differnt then Rio. Was in Recife and the wowen also are very girlish. Fantastic beach life in Recife. Excellent SW action!
All the info on Cafe del Mar, Africa and Desigual is still correct. Prices still range from R$50-100. Girls will ask for R$100, just laugh and move on, if she's not a 9 or 10.
I actually like the girls in Fortaleza, due to a slightly softer natural look. Body wise not as buff with the curves like Rio girls, but sleek and thin. I love the fact that the girls, life and the city are very different than Rio (gives me something to talk about).
Mostly Italians, Dutch and Germans, w/r to most foreign tourists in Fortaleza. I am probably the only Canadian in the city.
SW action is as good as Recife, or Rio, but is fare, if you need it quick for a sort time. I found it great to "get off" with a 7-8 SW in Recife, before I would hit the clubs and then the Pro's wouldn't catch me off guard in a real horny and "vunarable" state and I usually then could negociate with a clearer "head" ;-)
Ciao
PS: Anyone currently in Fortaleza?
spidy, let's see a post from you in the recife section! did you hit bamboo or sampa or others?
hi, i'm Italian and i was 3 weeks in Fortaleza (1 - 23 nov). I read many times the wsg forum and i can confirm everything. Prices are now very cheap. Girls range are 50-60 r$ (6-7) to 70-100 (8-10). Never more!!!! Remeber: never belive what Brasilian girls say!!!! They say to Americans that Italians pay more, to Italians that Holland pay more, to Holland tha Germans pay more ......
But i knew lot's of people from all the world in Fortaleza and i think the price are ok as reported. ok, there are some stupids, but i don't think it depends by the nationality....
I was at Casa de Praia hotel, in Iracema, very weel located, good service anda quality, very cheap (40 r$ + 10r$ x girl). Next to it, many people told me that Hotel Americas is very good. My friend found "apartamento" very good in "Via Venetto Flat" for 800r$/month. If you prefer apartamento ask to Flatshop (www.flatshop.com/br).
My experience:
"If a girl doesn't want money, she will cost you double!!!"
"What you like, take immediately. 2 min can be too late...."
"A very beautiful girl in Disegual disco after 2,30 pm is probably
at the second time...."
"at cafe' du mar, if you offer a drink to your girl, sign it in her card.
If she goes out whit you, you'll pay her card. If not....Some times the girl with you ask some drinks, you sign in your card and the she goes out with a best offerent".
I was 5 days in Natal, not very good.
"Desculpa" my english.
Bye.
oi hotsam,
what do you MEAN when you say:
""at cafe' du mar, if you offer a drink to your girl, sign it in her card.
If she goes out whit you, you'll pay her card. If not....Some times the girl with you ask some drinks, you sign in your card and the she goes out with a best offerent".
Sorry but I don't get that...what type of card do you mean??
your link doesn't work...it has to be
www.flatshop.com.br......ok!
My experience is that INDEED GF-exp. is far more expensive then just fuck a ho for 1-2 hours...;-)
The Americans TEND to overpay. Everwere were US guys are the prices go up skyhigh.
Look to CR,Ukraine Russia etc....:-(
Don't overpay please.
Johan.
PS: I'll be there from 11 february till 1 March 2003;-)
Hi HOTSAM,
how' s the girl at the reception doing? i think she owns the place cuz there's pictures of here everywhere behind the desk. She's pretty cute neh? but i don't think that she can be available, what's your thoughts about that?
Ola guys,
has anyone good experiences with dating brasil chicks via the internet????
Does anyone KNOW some good (pref. free) sites were to contact those nifty garotas???
I can read some portugese as it looks similar to spanish but from what I HEAR the pronunciation is VERY different:-(
I guess I have to work on that one.
OOO Hotsam before I forget...your flatshop site doesn't mention prices. Could you help us out on that one????
Thanks.
Johan.
to johan007
At Cafe' du Mar you pay when you go out. Before the staff write
your entrance-fee (5r$) and your drinks (Caipirina 3,5 r$) in a card.
She has not entrance-fee and if she writes her drinks in your card
she can go out free!!!!! And you pay for nothing!!!!! Many times i heard it and i can confirm (1 time for me)
sorry, www.flatshop.com.br - price range 40-60 r$ p/day in very
good flat, front of the beach, aircon, tv, frigobar ecc ecc
but in low season!!!! I saw many apartamentos and i suggest to
ask for "Via Venetto Flat". Very good quality and position and no problem at the reception: when they see your garota to go out without you, they call you and ask if everything is ok. If not, she cannot go out!!! :))
wow, but is very hign season, i think it's better to reserve
to Paolino
Yes, she is a very beautiful girl, but i think not available.
But she was only the fist 4-5 days, then only men in the reception
:((
Hi HotSam,
After five weeks, I will be in Fortaleza. Please share the current scenario that you folks came across while there. A nice lengthy report will be more than appreciated. Besides, if you do not mind, I have a few questions.
1. Which hotel/apartment would you recommend to stay that has security but no hassel with the requirement of the guest registration (just like renting an apartment in Rio).
2. Which bar/restaurent is good to pick up semi-pros during the day time or in the early evening?
3. Which cambio is providing the best exchange rate?
4. I will be arriving Fortaleza on Friday in the evening. Will be very tired after a 24 hour flight. For the first night, please name one good Hotel to stay in and a pick-up place to go to at around 9:00 PM.
Thanks.
About the "cards": i was in Africa and Cafe del Mar but my girl never paid...she said that she could get in and drink for free (i guess that she has got a limit though, like 3 drinks and nothing more). i don't know why she didn't pay (i saw her not pay everytime we got out of the place), maybe cuz she looked particularly cute and had a deal with the bars, or i don't know. all i know is that i did not pay for her drinks...
Johan so Will you and your German buddy visit this city??? JW what can you tell us more about this city???
Nibu,
I will fly off from Amsterdam 10th Feb. and I will stay till 3 rd March.
During this time I want to go to Manaus (or maybe my German friend has some other place in mind?) for trying some jungle puzz.
I hear HIGH season is from December/January....right??
So that means during the second half of Feb. prices for hotels/hooks should come down;-)
Anyway I want to focus on NON-pro action this time.
I hear the PIRATA BAR is a good place to score some SW???
During daytime we'll hit the malls....and centre for "good girls"....
It's well know that hooks are sleeping out late or attend to their kids. So the women you'll meet from 9.00 till 16.00 are probably NOT Hookers;-)
Johan.
hi jose. You have the same flight of mine.
Hi reccomand hotel casa de praia (www.casadepraia.com) for 2 or 3 night. Now it rates about 50 r$/night with breakfast. No problem for "guest" in the room!!! :)))
I stayed 3 weeks in this hotel.
My friend looked for apartamento and i think the best choice is the Via Venetto Flat, in the middle between Beira Mar and Iracema. No problem for the girl here too.
The receptionst ask to see the id.card to the girl/girls but no problem of registration. In your apartamento you can do what you want but i suggest to be carefull about minor!!! Don't go whith them, don't talk to them!!!!
During the day i suggest to go to Praia do Futuro; the best barracas for girl are Itaparika' and Circolo do Carangueiro (probably the real name is a little different).
Many beautiful girl here, but i don't understand the differe between a pros and a sem-pros, but i think here you can find everybody.
About cambio, is better to cash money with credit card. There are 2 banco do Brasil next to the beach that are aible to do it.
With Credit Card the rate is a little less than the official.
In the excange office, when the rate was usd/r$ 3,6 they changed at 3,20!!!!!!
The Casa de Praia hotel accept Credit Card and not overcharge for use it. If you write them email, they can arrage your pick-up
at the Airport. They did it free for me. With a taxy the regula fare is about 30 r$ but if you negotiate it, 20 r$ is ok.
Bye
NIbu:
Well (as I think my report says), I was in Fort. two summers ago (completely on a sex-vacatation). I spent three days there in the big, spanish looking hotel in the middle of the beach-walk. I had the place to my self.
The sex scene in Fortaleza was a little disappointing for me. It was kinda like Recife w/o the clubs -- namely: a town w/ a good street-scene.
On most nights that main street 3-4 blocks up from the beach was packed w/ young (18+) transient(?) girls all along it. Prices were great (as can be expected), quick-time hotels close and cheap, and crime was relatively non-existent.
If this sounds like your kind of scene, check it out. Read, though, Max's reports below. From his tone, I wonder if even this street situation is still good.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
Just got back from a short jaunt to Fortaleza. Nice place but pretty crowded right now with European male tourists. No problem, though, there are plenty of girls to go around.
Picked up a garota my first night and linked up with her during the day for some time at the beach. Recommend going to Praia do Futuro (about a 20 reais cab fare from Iracema). Much nicer beach and less people (although you will be pestered by the continual presence of beach vendors hawking everything). Lots of day trip clubs at this beach.
Anyway, price for the garota was 100 Reais which was for about 3 hours (or whatever the going rate at the motel was). Probably could have bargained a little more but is still less than US$30. After paying for her afternoon at the beach, we went to the motel and had sex several times (no charge). Just treat the girls right and they will take care of you.
Normally go for blondes, but this girl named Joana was a perky brunette. Anybody interested, her cell number is (082) 93051735. She is amenable to most activities (threesome was no problem).
Recommend the Shopping Motel (corny name) rather than the closer Village motel. A substantial difference in quality and not much difference in price. They had some sort of contest going on and one time I won 50% of my room bill.
All in all, not bad, although the quality of girls was not what I was expecting.
Dudeman: I will be in Fortaleza in 3-4 weeks. Thanks for sharing info. I have a few questions. How old is Joana? Does she understand a little english? What was the exchange rate you got and at which cambio? Thanks.
Guys,
IF it's one thing I learned during my trips to SA.....is that people almost do NOT speak any decent english. Fuck...even in my last hotel in Lima most servants didn't speak any english at all!!!
Better learn portugese if you're heading to Forta...;-)
I just bought a book with 2 CD's for 25 €.....and it also practise Brazilian Portugese. (which is pronunced differently then European Portugese).
Anyway,,....WHAT IS WRONG WITH EUROPEAN MALE TOURISTS?????
I always thought those damn yankees ruined it for all of us;-)
LOL
johan.
PS: Dieter (my german buddy) and I will be there from 10th February till 3 March...that is at that day I have to fly back home.
Maybe He stays a bit longer.
So if any of you want to hook up.....you're welcome. We both speak english.
I have plans to organise a real WSG Gangbang party....:-)
Jose Marcia,
As for Joanna age, she said 23 (but who knows). She speaks no english (other than what she picked up watching American porn).
The only time that I exchanged money was at the airport and got 3.35 reais per dollar. I recommend using your ATM card and getting money from the cash machines. The airport had a good assortment of different banks that took international cards. One thing to remember is that ATMs in Fortaleza (and probably all of Brazil) close at 10 PM so make sure to plan accordingly.
Hope that helps.
About money in Fortaleza:
As Iv'e written before, and other gusy have too, the ATM machines are the best way to get cash - best exchange rates, least hassle. BUT - finding an ATM that takes international cards and has money in it can be a real pain in the ass at certain times -especially late night and Sundays. The best thing to do is plan ahead, but if you are caught without cash, two tips:
The Banco do Brazil on Av. Abolicao in Meirelles is open very late, I hit it at 1AM. And they have a guard.
On Sundays, when most ATM's are out of money and casas de cambio are closed, a last resort is the ATM in the basement of the Aldeota Shopping Center. It' s behind the supermarket, right by the up escalator, there are 3 ATm machines down there, but the one that accepts international cards is the last one, right by the escalator. And since it's so well tucked away, it usually still has money in it on a Sunday.
Cheers!
Tom B.
Thanks a lot Tomb. You are great as usual. Hey....where are the photos that you promised me? lol.
Cheers.
Guys,
Today I rented a flat 300 m away from praia iracema in Fortaleza.
R$ 35,- a day..(=about € 9,70).
It has a bathroom,toilet,sleeproom,little kitchen and a living with TV.
besides that it has 24 h guard at the entrance;-)
Is that cheap or is that cheap?
Johan.
PS: can't wait to get there:-)
Johan:
That's cheap! be sure to check out Iracema in the early morning (7AM to 9AM) when all the cuties are out jogging. Also, be carefull with the favela about 500M behind Iracema (may be the reason your flat is so cheap).
Tom B.
Guys,
From a Dutch site I hear from a fellow monger that "Mucuripe" and "Orbita" (Rua dragao do mar 207) are good places to score non-pro girls.
The guy also told that in the first discotheque "Mucuripe" most girls are upperclass and don't dig (sex)tourists:-(
Anyone on this one?????
Johan.
Hi Johan friend,
yes I know both places. Mucuripe is the most expensive, Disco in Fortaleza. In Dragao do mar are more middle class clubs. There is an other one a bit outside where you can meet lower class women. I don`t remember the name, but I was never there since the most lower class girls have not much European blood, they are mostly pure native Brazil Indians and the Indians in that part of Brazil are really not pretty. If you can speak a little Portuguese and you have not so high demands on the look of a girl than you can have there some fun.
Back to your question Mucuripe is not a good place for mongering. I know some guys whose want to go with there "girlfriends" (pros, or semi-pros from Disco Desiqual) at weekend in Mucuripe (only Frieday and Saturday is good) but the staff let them not go in. Because they don`t want to get a second Desiqual. But, of course you can find in Mucuripe also some pros, but on a higher niveau. The normal girls in Mucuripe are not easy to hunt. It`s not easier than to hunt in a Western European or American Disco, I would even say that it`s more difficult.
First the language problem (if you can speak a latin language than it`s OK, English is not very common there).
Second the dance problem if you want impress a girl, there you should be able to dance the local dances (fohor, samba, pagode..) I hate this Brazilian music. I have no problem to dance on western music but I have seldom saw a western guy who can dance fohor or samba without making himself to fool.
Third the gringo problem. In the most Brazil Cities or areas gringos are most welcom by the girls, not so in Fortaleza and especially at the upper class girls. Don`t understand me wrong the locals are not unfriendly to foreigners but the most or almost all foreigners there are sex tourists and so you will not have a good reputation to the girls. It`s totally different in Rio or SP because there the most foreigner are business men and so there foreigner have a much better reputation. That told me some western guys who life in Fortaleza for a long time.
Dragao do mar is a better place to meet girls, there are middle class people also many students (a few can speak English). But many young girls under 18 years there. Not almost the right clientel.
A good tip is Halo Brazil. It`s a single cafe with telefons on each table. Here you will also find some of the girls from Desigual and Cafe do Mar. Tuesday is Halo Brazil day. Monday is Pirata day. Thursday is Chico de Carangueso day, every day has his special place to go.
Dieter
johan 007 -- Not really. There're all mostly pro bars.
JWADD
So you want to tell me that there are NO ways to meet a "normal" girl in this 2.3 million habitants city???? All are *****s,party-girls or hobby-hookers??
Come on man...you gotta be kidding.
I honestly beleive that there are for sure places were one can meet/hook up with non-pro's!
Sure being able to speak Portugese is essential...but I am trying to learn that right now;-)
ate Logo.
Johan.
...Just in that area. Of course you can meet non-pro girls. These smaller cities are probably even a better place for it -- less tourist-jaded.
JW
Hey To Eric S I got your e mail today no I Am not going to Fortaleza AND never have had any plans to go to Fortaleza I think you got me confused with Johan. You can be Johans co pilot. Ask JW too he knows a lot about Brazil. In Feb. I am still in Lima Peru And March I go to Trujillo and Iquitos Peru for a few days. Check out my Peru Posts and you should see. Ok Since I am now posting in Fortaleza Let us have an updated report for 2003 on this city. What newspapers have sex ads for Fortaleza? Any good massage places in Fortaleza? How are the strip clubs in Fortaleza? How about the street*****s? How many ads are in the yellow pages for Escorts and massage places? Any info on Love Motels? How about some good porn shops? To Johan Man I always see the sickest porn videos from SA and they all CUM out of Brazil. I am sure a lot of these Brazilian POrns you find in AmsterDAMNED. Some Really crazy shit thse chicks will do ANYTHING...... JW Have you seen some of thse Brazilian Sex Vids? I can not go in to detail on thse vids. cause they are to graphic. Ok Man Back To Eric S. Yes I Got your E Mail today in my yahoo account But again You got Me confused it is Johan and his buddy that will be there in feb. Shit Man I will have a baby boy in feb. in Lima Peru Well Anyways good luck,,,,,,,,, NIBU R........
Nibu,
Thanks for the info. Johann or JWadd, are you are going to be in Rio or Fortaleza at the end of March? I still am not totally sure about my dates of travel, but I need to firm it up.
I was looking for a travel partner; see my post in the 'general info' portion.
Thanks.
Hi Again Eric thanks for hooking up with me on mesenger. Lets keep in touch all the time. I hope you can make a comprimise try hitting Brazil in feb. to hook up with Johan and his German buddy and meet me in Peru in mid to late march.... Ok Man Also E Mail my friend John Hanford for info on this Saturday sex Rock n Roll night we will have in Iquitos Peru in march e mail him at johnnyvomit@excite.com The Drummer Bill Sargis you can E Mail at bsargis@yahoo.com I also think Roman the guitarist Has An E Mail too. YEh JV are also known in Brazil. Hey but anyways I heard Iquitos girls are hot and horny just like Brazilian woman. Peruvian and Brazilian women Are fun not like the many stuck up cunts in Argentina. Argentina is a great country to visit for short stays but I could not live there long. I had too many problems with cunts on my last visit to argie late 2002. ... Oh this other sex hound might also make it with us to Iquitos ask him too maybe he can hook up with you in Brazil He is also trying to check out Columbia. This Guy Beer Bong Bill has visited Costa Rica A lot e mail him barflybill@hotmail.com I think he is like my age young 30,s. I hope to you can hook up with JW He seems like a great guy. Hey JW What do you prefer argentenian province girls or the bitches of greater BA??' All in Truth,,, Signing out NIBU R....
Hi guys,
e_simmons;
I'll bze in Fortaleza from 10 feb. till 3 March.
BUT....there is a big change that during this time me and my german buddy Dieter go and see some of the Jungle ie Manaus..!!(for a week or so)
For cheap fucks,Great beaches, cheap hotels,food,drinks you HAVE to go to Fortaleza..!!!!!
Besides that Brasil girls are BORN with a cock in the bUTT,so they LIKE it from the other way.....;-)
I guess Rio is about 200% more expensive and half the fun.(and much more dangerous)
Besure to book an appartment,and NOT some all-in Hotel. Because in places like that you can NOT bring in GF's...!!!
Johan.
day 4, monday: the tour van picked me up, (r$10 round trip) at 9 am, for an hour drive to cumbuco. i asked for a dare devil buggy ride and it sure was fun. my driver drove buggy kamikaze style over the sand dunes. (r$25, not sure). did not go for sand sledging. rather, opted to watch people falling their faces down in the sand. ate pargo fried fish that i shared with another brazilian tourist. the lunch was superb (r$ 17.50). took this parasail (huh) for a while (r$3, i got what i paid for). the van dropped me at my hotel at 5 pm. the receptionist suggested parque recreio churrascaria (bbq). this place is like a huge and pretty garden with 15´-20´ high waterfall, the water flowing on the stones and vines, and is turned into a restaurant. i told them that i am a journalist from new york and got an even better treatment. as per my request, i was taken in the kitchen and i was given an opportunity to select the best juicy steak. they cut into small cubes and grilled them on charcoal, the way i wanted. their freshly baked garlic bread was out of this world. also, they brought the meat on a hot plate with coal burning underneath. u.s.a. rules! how dare could they afford to have a bad review from an american reporter? (yeah right). the waiter wanted his name (nonato) to be included in the report. wish granted! the bad part was that they serve the food for 2....not for one. (r$30-r$40). if one takes a girl with him, she will eat for free. after café cachaca, went to bar do pirata. this place was full of brazilian tourists and it was so hot and crowded that i could not breathe. left in an hour to zip i bar. it was almost mid night and this bar was full of girls. by then, my portuguese had brushed up and i could hold a decent conversation. besides, i was getting familiar with norms. as soon as i got in the bar, i saw this pretty girl. i went to her directly and introduced myself. her name was silvani, an18 year old morena clara, a high school drop-out, and had no kids. she was there with three other friends and did not know anyone there. i bought a rose for her and she got real happy with that. she gave me her home and work phone numbers and told me to call her to make next evening's plan. i gave her my number too so that she could contact me. i was eager to be with her and kept on talking with her. she said that it was her first time at this bar and was confirmed later when she showed me the wrong door for the washroom. tried to get her drunk but she wont drink anything other than soda or water. i tried all the trump cards in my hands, to get into her pants that night. she said that she does not have any clothes with her. i told her that i will buy her some the next day. she said that she does not have anything to sleep in and i said that she could borrow my t-shirt. she said that she does not have a tooth brush. i said that i got one new one for her in my room. she said that her family and her employer would wonder where she was and i said that she could call them from my room the next day. finally, she gave in and we came to my room at 2am. i looked at her id at the time of hotel registration and she sure was 18 years and 2 months old. also, her name was silvani that she told me earlier. she was shy and wouldn't shower with me and that was fine with me. we kissed a lot and she kept on saying that she loves me. i wanted to stay with her for the rest of the trip and asked her that. she wanted to do the same and accepted my offer. (the biggest mistake of my trip, i guess i was too drunk and she looked really great to me). she told me that she will call her home and her employer, the next day. i told her that we will go to the beach park and other nice places. she wanted the lights off and that was also fine with me. after lots of kisses, i undressed her and she gave me a so so bbbj. i made clear that i was cumming and she let me cum in her mouth, though did not swallow. after another round of separate shower, we started again. man, i was falling in love with this girl. had a hard-on all along with just the feelings of being with this young and pretty girl. during the second round, while banging her in missionary style (with condom on), i felt her butts. she had both butts full of pimple like things. all the feelings crashed right then. the towering inferno turned into a sleeping worm. i pretended to cum, got up, washed and she slept right away in my arms. it was 5am by then and i could not sleep. did not know what to do or how to get rid of this girl. at 7am, woke her up and told her that this is the breakfast time. she said she was hungry and got ready pretty fast. once we were ready to leave for the breakfast, i asked her about her butt and those pimple like things. she said that this is a skin disease and that she gets it when exposed to the sun for long. i did not buy that. she tried to convince me by showing her one leg where she had some black marks. she told me that she got same thing there and that the disease cured after 2 weeks after leaving the marks. she told me that i should not worry about that and that i wont get it. i gave her r$100 and told her that she should buy some clothes, that i promised, from this money. she kept the money with some hesitation then kept on repeating "tu pensar para me" or something like that (you think of me) with tears flowing her eyes. she asked me to at least ride down the elevator with her and that i did. after she took her id back from the reception, i said her good bye. she hugged me and left in tears. i got very upset too, but i did what i had to do. came back to my room and stayed in the bed motionless for over one hour. could not sleep so got up, showered, got dressed, went downstairs for breakfast.
day 5, tuesday: i wanted my mind off silvani real bad. at 9am, decided to go for more shopping at mercado central. looked what i wanted and told them to keep that stuff on a side while i go get some money. walked on the back side to the same massage place (house # 100). selected one girl (forgot her name) and took her to a room. she provided an ok massage followed by a very good sex followed by another good massage. i left this place in an hour and a half. spend the rest of the day at beirra mar beach.
tuesday was alô alô brasil night and that was a must. reached there at 10 pm. what a breathtaking view from there. lots of girls started checking me out and so did i. i was loud and made it clear that i am not a brazilian and shot myself in my foot. got only a few phone calls (each table had a phone and the # of each table was hanging from the roof top over each table). the most ugly and the oldest women in the bar at a nearby table, in her late 30's, was determined to pick me up for the night and kept on calling me. a couple of tv look alike girls did not have any tables for them. so, the waiter partitioned my table and had them sit next to me. since they did not have any phones of their own, they kept on bugging me. this bar was full of nice looking "regular" girls but not a single decent girl called me. (i am writing this and my eyes are full of tears. lol). it was almost mid-night. could not take the advances of ugly women towards me and feeling rejected by good looking girls, took a cab to the familiar grounds of zip i bar. did not waste any time there. checked out all the girls within 5 minutes and started talking with the most gorgeous girl there. her name was mary. danced, drank, and talked for an hour. she and her friends were amazed with my digital camera that they could look at their picture right away. they all wanted lots of picture taken and i had no problems with that. after 5 beers each and an approval from her friends, mary agreed to go with me to my hotel. she was quick to ask me if i would give her r$130 and i agreed. asked for her id and she was 22. at the hotel, we talked for a while and then realized that none of us had any condoms. left her in the room, took a cab to nearby pharmacy, and was back in my room within 10 minutes. i knew that a great night full of great sex is ahead of me. while she was in the shower, i opened up a viagra and kept it nearby, so that i could take that later, if needed, without mary´s knowledge. after a shower, we kissed for over half an hour. she had a great curvy and creamy body and a very nice, smooth, and perfect ass. she had nice firm breasts and had no kids. she did not give me a decent bj and that was fine me. we had great sex in usual positions and she added more marks on my body than i already had. it was 4 am by then and she wanted to sleep for a while. she hugged me and slept like a baby. i could not sleep due to this hard on and waited patiently until she wakes up. i kept on looking at this sleeping beauty on my side. she woke up at 6 am. right away, she realized what time it was and jumped out of the bed. she kept on saying something like "she broke her promise to her mom". i gave her r$150. she was very happy with that. she got dressed, gave me her phone number, and left me speechless with this annoying hard-on. i tried to sleep but could not, and left for the breakfast.
day 6, wednesday: after the breakfast, i could not sleep due to this permanent hard-on. tried frantically to find the lost viagra pill but could not. i was so drunk last night, thought that i must have swollen that viagra pill. i could not take it anymore and at 9am, got up and took a taxi. it was an emergency situation and i needed a massage and some sex right away. gave the driver encontros section of classificados do diario and asked him to start calling for me. he bought a telephone card and started calling. found out that the same massage place (that i had been twice) had more than one advertisement with different phone numbers. after like10 calls, found out one massage place that met my needs. (paradise 226-1477, 426 tenente benevo centro/iracema). it was at a 5 minute drive from my hotel and had 3 girls including one 18 year old that they had confirmed earlier. took nicole to a room while taxi driver wanted to wait for me for free. we took a shower together and she started giving me a very nice massage. i could have slept right there, but did not. then bbbj followed by a good sex in lots of positions. she said she likes everything in sex but when i asked her if she likes completa (anal), she said that anything but that and that was fine with me. i took me over an hour to cum and my dick stayed hard for that duration. she had a nice body and with a little persuasion, she agreed for a photo as long as i don't show this to anyone else and don´t tell others in the casa. total cost: r$ 60 for the casa, r$20 for the tip. taxi driver was waiting for me and i asked him to drop me at iguatemi shopping center. this is located in aldeota and is an upscale shopping plaza. did not find anything of my interest there. took a taxi to the pizza hut near my hotel. i was very relaxed by then. after having my lunch, went to my room and slept for 8 hours. after dinner and internet cachaca, went to zip i bar to cafe del mar to africa and then back again to zip i bar. did not find anything that i liked. too a cab to escaribu boite (praia futuro). several nice girls but, i guess, i was not in the mood. came back to my room and slept for another 7 hours. i just needed a break to gather myself up. i guess i did the right thing by taking a break for that night.
day 7 thursday: after breakfast, i called marry. the lady who picked up the phone told me that mary does not live there and that whenever she will come there, she will be given my message. i went downstairs and asked the receptionist to call mary for me. mary was the best girl that i met during my trip so far and i wanted to spénd a quality time with her. wanted to be with her and wanted to take her to the beach park. the hotel receptionist got the same reply but now i was sure. went out for some shopping and beach (beirra mar). came back to my room and found no message from mary. while going thru my stuff, suddenly found the last viagra pill. yohoooooo. so, after all, it was all in my head and not caused by viagra. slept for a while, got up and went down stairs. they did not hear from mary yet. i asked them to call that phone number again. the lady on the other side said that mary went back to her town and that she does not have a phone at her house there. they also opened up and showed me the file of mary that they kept in my folder. it had a photo copy of her id with an address 2 hours away from fortaleza. the only phone number on the registration card was the one that i had. i changed my mind and decided not to go to her town. there are many more fish in the sea. was fully rested and not drunk at all. went out to praia de iracema and walked around in a very good mood. one neckless vender tried hard to sell me his merchandise. i did not buy anything, though stayed there and asked all the pretty girls passing by to buy some thing from there. i even took off my nike sneakers and tried to sell them for r$10 to a couple of beauties but they just laughed at my face. tried to sell my heart to a stunner but she did not want it even for free. oh well, here goes my career of being a salesman. i never was a good salesman anyway. found a cop standing and enjoying the weather rather than helping the citizens. told him that i am a new york city cop. he told me that i do not look like a cop. i showed him my card that said the word "enforcement" and told him that i am a high level cop. asked him that since this is my last night there, he should help me find a stunner. he told me that it is too early and either i should come here late or come back tomorrow. what a bummer! threatened him with not coming back to brazil again if i don't find any beauty for this night. he was of no help. after a late dinner, internet café, and wasting lots of time, at 11 pm, went to zip i bar. a quick round of the bar revealed two cute girls. flipped a coin and went to the winner. after a quick oi, introduction, kisses on both cheeks, and some drinks, we left for café del mar along with her friends. both levels on this place were packed. did not have any room even to breathe. music was too loud. this girl liliane (22) was very reserve and i started to think that i made a bad choice. she said that she was trying to finish her high school. even though i had bought her a rose earlier, she was still ignoring me. was more interested in her girl friends than me. i thought about dumping her but it was getting late. i did not have enough energy left to bull shit with other girls. asked her to go to my hotel and she agreed right away. no money was discussed and we took a cab to my hotel. once in the room, she turned to be a very affectionate person. she had a great body even though she had a 11-month old daughter. i went to the bathroom and swallowed one viagra pill. we kissed a lot and had a wonderful sex in all the positions. she knew how to use her vagina muscles well. at all times i was fucking her in her pussy, she kept it tight by contracting it's muscles. she was a nasty habit of feeling and fingering my a**hole while giving me a bbbj. i know brazilian girls very well so i did not mind this action that much. after an exhausting session, at 4 am, we slept in each others arm. she turned out to be a real nice girl. we woke up at 8 am and ordered two breakfasts in the room. after the breakfast, we had another great session. while rubbing her clit, i inserted my wet finger in her tight asshole. she did not seem to be bothered with that. while riding her doggie style, i saw her tiny n tight asshole. i was thinking about ramming her ass but was wondering at the same times that how would i be able to fit in her without causing her some serious pain. took my dick out of her pussy and slowly inserted in her asshole. she was totally relaxed and i was surprised that she did not mind at all. rather she seems to enjoy that. i started pounding her in her ass and exploded my load in there. we took a shower together and we got back in the bed. i was looking at the watch and wanted her to leave. i gave her r$100 and she kept it without even looking at how much it was. she still stayed with me. i had already told her that i will be there for another week. she gave me her phone number and told me that i could call her if i decided to spend more time. she also said that it will be all right if i decide not to see her again. she said that in fortaleza, there are so many girls and all the tourists rarely meet a girl again. we were still in the bed and she got me aroused again. i did not have any more condoms but she said that she got one strawberry flavored. we got up and had sex in all the position while standing up, both in the room and in the bathroom. i got surprised when i came in her pussy. she was happy and left at 11:30am. i was already packed since the previous day. within half an hour i showered, packed the rest of the stuff, and was out of the hotel at noon time for my flight back to the old usa. after a 52 hour flight (engine problems with varig flight-md11), i reached home on sunday.
money matters: the trip total cost was us $ 750 including hotels but excluding airfare and gifts. i had sex with a total of 10 girls in 7 days. the cost could have been higher, had i taken a girl with me on a day trip. good restaurants include a 10% service charges in their bill. i would only leave the change. i.e. less than r$1 tip. taxis are cheap. if the bill comes to r$6.20, i would only give r$6. that is the norm there. if you try to give them more, they will take you as a fool. however, poverty bothered me a lot. i did things like waking up a kid sleeping on the side walk and offered him food. this 10 year old kid pointed to his lower lip which was swollen beyond belief. i took him to a pharmacy, got him medication, got him some food, and gave him some money. one should not spend too much money on any single person. we are just visitors and can not change their wealth distribution system. try to give small things like food to poor street people.
shopping: the best place, i found, was mercado central: a multi-story building. nice needle work bed sheets, nice t-shirts (r$5), gold plated jewelry with brazilian stones. i got some familiarity with stones and they were selling their jewelry very cheap. bought this gold plated neckless set that included earing (big blue topaz stones) and paid r$140. gold plated moon stone smaller set for small girls cost r$6 (yes, u.s.$1.70). how can one go wrong at this place. (found florence jewelers the best, among all 3 jewelers in this market).
phone calls: from telephone places, dial 0021 followed by 1 (for the us), then area code and the number. a 3 minute call was approximately r$9.
my next trip: or if i have to do it all over again, i will not need a girl's phone number before going there. i will not try any place other than zip i bar to pick up the girls and i won't go there before 11pm. i like this bar because there is no cover charges, drinks are cheap and you pay as you order. therefore, i won't have to pay the girl's tab when she was not with me. hardly any girl comes there with any date so all the girls are available. also, i won't get drunk until i pick up a girl of my choice. i won't ask stupid questions like "do you speak english". they simply do not. within 5 minute of being there, would approach the best looking girl. will stay with her for 2-3 hours in the bar. will drink, dance, and won't worry about what if she wont go to my room with me. she will go with me. will not pick one up from the street. all the bars do check girl's id before letting them in. therefore, i wont worry about picking up an **** girl. will take a hotel if traveling alone. will take a flat if traveling with a friend. will not commit to a girl unless checking her out for 2 days in a row. there is always a better girl available than the previous one.
safety: brazilian people are generally very honest. nothing ever got stolen from my room during any of my trips to brazil. though, i never brought a girl to my room that i picked from the street. they would even ask you if they could take a drink from the mini bar of the room. however, i was always alert.
getting married: i have seen some interest on this board from folks who want to get married abroad. here is my suggestion. so far, i had 5 brazilian gfs in the us. the relationship with them lasted somewhere from 2 weeks to as long as 6 years. besides, this was my 4th. trip to brazil. based on that experience, i can tell you about brazilian people. i think brazilians are perfect to marry with. they are very loyal, affectionate, will work full time, will cook for you, will provide you with all kinds of sex on your demand. she will even forgive you if she found out that you were cheating on her. also, they are close to american/european in culture and in looks. there are tons of single pretty girls that can not find a soul mate. they have this dream of getting out of their country by marrying a man from europe or from the us. and, fortaleza is the perfect place for your search. man's age does not matter that much and that holds true in most of the central/south america. if you want to take this venue, here is my suggestion.
three months before going there, advertise in their paper for 4 weeks. ask them to put your ad in the back page (1/8th of the page) of their classified section. you may add your photo too.
1. classificados do diario (085) 266-9100 http://diariodonordeste.com.br/classif
2. o povo (085) 254-1010 email: populares@opovo.com.br
you may get a few contacts this way. don´t get discouraged at this time. meanwhile, try to learn spoken portuguese as much as possible thru tapes. once you go there, rent an apartment and a cell phone for 1-2 months. (cell phone rental at fortaleza airport r$11/day, r$60/wk, r$160/month plus local calls r$1.10/min.) try to meet local people (including males and families) as much as possible. invite them for drink/dinner. go to gym. (one is located a block for hotel diogo, next to habib´s restaurent. go to various banks for any reason. talk to them and spread the word around that you are there not for sex but for meeting a nice girl to marry with. start dating a lot and be truthful. tell them that for now, you are only dating and dating many girls. do not settle for an average girl even if you are in 50s and look very ugly. go for the best looking young girl who has no kids. sex comes normal on 3rd. date in brazil. do not spend too much on girls. do not reject anyone until you get to know the ropes. also, do not show these girls that you are desperate. for sexual gratification, you can always go to zip i bar. i am sure that after 3 weeks, you will be dating at least 3 girls of your dream. keep on dating and take it from there. if you end up getting married, don't forget to send me a thank you card.
Just got back from Fortaleza after one week trip and had a time of my life while there. Thanks a lot to this board and to pay that off, I am writing a very long report. Since this report wont fit in one message, I am posting 2 messages. I apologize for my poor writing skills. English is my second language.
While in Fortaleza, I spent an hour each day at Internet Café and wrote down information before I forget it all. Please feel free to walk on the same path as I did and try not to make the same mistakes. I will not repeat info already on this board, rather would share my own experience with you. I am also including the photos of the girls, I associated with.
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b333809245e8¬ag=1
Please do NOT misuse these photo. Also, I got telephone numbers of almost all the girls. I am excluding the phone numbers of semi-pros/amateurs from this report. If you need any specific info, please feel free to email me at jose425@hotmail.com with a Fortaleza in reference.
To convert Real v/s peso for this report purpose R$3.35 = U.S $1 or R$100 = U.S.$30.
Booked a flight for from upstate NewYork to Fortaleza for $650. Found the best airfare deal from BACC (800-222-2746). (Thanks a lot TomB). Tried to book a room, for one night, thru Hotel casa de Praia but they did not have any rooms for January 3rd. Booked a flat thru Flat Shop and they reserved me a flat in Praia de Iracema at a rate of R$60 per day. I emailed them to pick me up at Fortaleza airport. I, also, armed myself with a pocket size dictionary and translated general but simple conversation from http://babel.altavista.com/tr?
Thursday (Jan. 2nd. 2003): After blowing the snow off my driveway (at 5 am, for an hour) and working all day at my office, got the Continental flight to Newark and changed the plane for Sao Paulo. The flight was on time but had to stay at the tarmac for 3 hours before the plan could de-ice and then off to Sao Paulo.
Day One (Jan. 3rd. 2003): Arrived in Sao Paulo 3 hours late, got some US$ changed at the airport cambio.@ R$ 3.36 for 1$. Took the Varig flight thru Salvador, Recife and reached the Fortaleza airport at 8:30P.M. Did not find anyone from flat service displaying my name. Did not wait or call them. Took a taxi coupon from the airport worth R$25 and off to Hotel casa de Praia. They did not have any rooms available. After checking 4 other hotels in the area, found Hotel Diogo in Meireles. www.diogohotel.com.br E-mail: diogohotel@diogohotel.com.br Tel. (85) 248-9988, (fax) (85) 248-4633. Fortaleza was packed with Brazilian vacationers at this time. Booked for one night there (R$90) and got a very nice room with safe and A/C at the 9th. floor with a nice view of the Atlantic Ocean. Dumped my luggage in my room and left right away. I was ready for action. Walked down the street and found a nice open air Restaurant BeBelu right across Holiday Inn. Ate a hamburger and soda for R$5. Lots of girls there but all non pro. Walked to Africa. On the way, called Joana at (082) 9305-1735 (Thanks David - DUDEMAN). She did not pick up the phone and I did not understand the message. At Africa, tons of girls but could not get connected with anyone. Language barrier was taking it's toll. By that time, it was 1 am and walked to Desigual. As soon as I sat down, a late 20ish woman came to me and started forcing her toungue down my throat. Had to literally yell and push her off me. Did not get connected with any girl there either. Took a taxi to Boite Estodio Tropical. Asked for a coke and the waitress got pissed at me. Did not bring me my soda. Sorry, I had already had over ten drinks by then and I was stoned. Met Rachel (pronounced HaKail) and did not waste any time to ask her out. She did not speak a single word of English but we managed to communicate with a mixture of English, Spanish, and Portuguese. She said she was 21. She asked R$80 for the deed and no time limits and no bar fine. We took a taxi to nearby Chalex motel (chalexmotel@hotmail.com). Stopped at the gate and the drill was simple as in any motel over there. In order to provide the clients a total secrecy, they won't deal with the client. The driver handed over Rachel's ID thru a hole and was handed over a room key. Each room has its own garage and entrance thru the garage. The room was equipped with 3 condoms, a mini-bar, and some snacks. We talked for half an hour and then proceeded to have a shower together. She had a very cute 1 year old baby girl that she showed me a picture of. Her body was ok with a nice shaved pussy and some tiny hair left off in a nice shape. (Found all pussies, I was with, that way). Vertical C-section marks on her body was a big turn off but she made it up with her attitude. We cleaned each other's body and off to the bed. She asked me that if I would like to kiss her and that she likes it very much. Who am I to refuse a lady in need to be kissed? Lots of deep french kissing followed by a very very very slow bare back blow job while I was playing with her breasts and clit. That is the way I like it and she continued this action for an hour. I made it loud and clear that I was cumming but she continued and I came in her mouth. She swallowed my cum until the last drop dripping from my throbbing dick and then washed down my remaining DNA, left in her mouth, with soda. Heck, If I had to do that, I will need concentrated sulfuric acid. We washed each others body again and talked for half an hour more. By then, I was ready for action again. This time I mounted on her and fucked her in all the positions possible. After I shot my second load, it was 7am and she wanted more. I told her that I was very tired. We got dressed. She called the motel reception and got handed over a bill thru a hole. (R$35). I gave her the money to pay the bill that included the motel rent for 4 hours, 2 sodas, 1 condom and got a receipt. Gave her R$100 and she was happy with that amount. She was a serious person but I managed to get a conversation going. She said that she works at the tropical boite 3 nights a week. She gave me her phone number to call, if I want. By then taxi was there in the "garage" and we left. Dropped Rachel off at her house nearby and reached back to my hotel at 7:45 am.
Day 2, Saturday: Ate a wonderful Brazilian breakfast (free) at the hotel restaurant. Went to my room, took a 2 hour nap. Checked out from the room and left my small bag with the hotel. Did an extensive search for a flat or an apartment. After checking out many places and weighing the pros and cons, decided to stay at the same hotel for the remaining 6 nights. This hotel was centrally located. Came back and asked them if they had a room. Luck turned out to be in my favor. They had already given my room to someone else but another room just got available. The rate was the same R$90 per night for a single person, R$120 for double. I booked a single room. This room had 3 beds. Combined 2 single beds to make a double and stayed that way during the rest of my trip. After a 3 hour nap, went thru Massagem section of "Do Diario paper", noted a Massage Place that offers massage by 2 girls. Called them from my room and they said that I could come over there at anytime. They gave me their address that I could not understand. Asked the hotel receptionist to call 9127-0403 (not sure, I called several massage places before selecting this one) and asked for direction. He called the number and wrote down the address for me. Then he told me to be extra careful and to keep my valuable in sight and that I should not drink anything that has previously been opened up (drugs could be mixed in my drinks). Also, if I have any sort of problems, just call the hotel. Took a taxi (R$ 7) and asked him to stop at a pharmacy. Bought a pack of Viagra. (A pack of 4, 50 mg for R$88 and 100 mg for R$133. Opted for a pack of 50mg. No prescriptions required). Also, bought a pack of condoms for R$2 that had 3 condoms, swallowed this 50 mg pill and reached at this place. This place turned out to be right behind Merrcado Central. Facing Mercado Central, on the right you will see an old and big church. Go in that direction, and before crossing the street, turn left. After a short block, you will see a small park on the right hand side and then a gas station on the left. This massage place is a weird looking one story house (3rd casa, not sure, House # 100) on the right just after the park. Just knock and go in there. DO NOT GO THERE IN THE NIGHT. Kind of shabby place. Walked in and found 7 girls working. I selected 2 girls: 21 years old Loira (blonde) and 20 years old Morena (Brunette). They took me to a room and locked it from inside. After talking for 5 minutes they started seducing me. One started taking my shirt off while the other my jeans off. One was rubbing soap on my chest while the other was busy cleaning my dick. They took me to the bed and started giving me a very nice massage with cream. Four hands certainly felt better than two hands. After a nice 15 minute massage and a nice covered BJ, this morena mounted on me and rode me hard while this loira kept on kissing my neck and chest. I changed to missionary style and loira kept on alternating kissing my chest and morena´s breasts. Viagara was really kicking by then and I changed to doggie style. Asked loira to lick my balls while I was banging morena. Loira licked my balls but when her tounge touched morena´s pussy by accident, Morena screamed at her and ask her not to touch her there again. Loira then moved and started spanking me real hard (ouch). I did not like that so she started grabbing my butt and shoved her tougue where, so far, things have come out. I exploded right then in Morena. We showered again and in 15 minutes, I was ready like never before. This was loira´s turn and morena did not participate much except kissing my neck and chest real hard and added some more marks. After a few positions, while riding her doggie style, I picked up cream and shoved in her little nice n tight asshole. She just moaned and asked me to be slow down and that I did. Hey she shoved her tongue up my ass and, in order to get even, I had to shove my dick up her ass. I exploded in her tight ass in no time. We talked for 10 more minutes and they asked me if I wanted to see them again and take them to beach park or dinner. Told them that I was not sure of my plans and that I will call them if I decided to do so. I asked them for some photos. They declined politely once they saw my digital camera. I insisted but they did not budge. They were afraid of being posted on the net. Loira had an ok but smooth body. She was a true bisexual girl. Morena had a great body and much cuter face, though tiny breasts. She was more straight though could do bisexual acts for money. The bill was R$150 for an hour and a half and that included 4 sodas and 2 condoms. They asked for a tip and I gave them R$50 to share. They were very very pleased with the tip and so was I. Went to Mercado central, shopped for an hour, came back to my room, and slept for 2 hours. Took shower, changed, and left in the search of a beautiful garota. Had a dinner at Portofino Italian restaurant www.portofinofortaleza.com.br (R$35 with a complementary strong wine). Talked to one of the hosts, Augusto, an Italian who has lived in Rio de Janeiro for 15 years and for 5 in Fortaleza. He suggested that I should go to Zip i bar and that I did. Tons of girls there in all sizes, shape, and color. Some girls were the same that I saw the previous night in Africa. Talked to a few girls but could not get connected. 90% of them were very ugly. The good ones were either already had a date or stoned with drugs. Left the place disappointed (my mistake, I was there too early) and walked around on the streets but still no luck. Returned to my room at midnight and called Carine (9131-6561). She advertised in OPOVO daily paper that she is a 19 years old morena and charges R$100. She arrived within half an hour. She was good looking and had a great body. The sex was mechanical though very professional. BBBJ was near perfect. She had no kids and had a great control over her pussy muscles. I had a great time though nothing like GFE. I went to Brazil for a GFE, not for a professional sex. I got my pop in an hour and she left immediately. Asked for her picture and she agreed if I do not show her face.
Day 3, Sunday: After booking a trip for Cumbuco for the next day from Siglos Viagens thru hotel receptionist, took a taxi for Praia de Futuro (R$16). Tens of thousands of people at this 4-5 mile long beach that was lined up with at least 50 open air restaurants. Went to America do Sol and started eying girls. Did not get eyed by any decent young garota. Moved to the next door restaurant Ypioca. Ordered friend fish and the fish was delicious. I ate all the possible meat out of this fish. As soon as I finished my lunch, a 20ish guy came over and asked for the head of the fish and I gave that away. I was offering the left over rice, fries and rice to him and that is when security came over and asked me not to give him anything. They told me that this guy is a thief. I was amazed at this waitress, an Indian woman, in her late 30's, pregnant with full term, but was running up and down like a teenager. Gave a tip of R$2 to the cashier and she started jumping with one bill in each hand showing the waitress who did not waste any time grabbing both bills. Came back to my room, slept for 2 hours, and left for a walk along Av. Abolicao. Met a women named Krytal, 24, a university student of economics, had a baby girl 5 years old, lost her husband two years ago in a motor bike accident and was from a place that was a 5-hour bus trip from Fortaleza. She said that she was on a vacation and was staying with relatives. She took me to a Pousada (R$20 for a room) 3 blocks from my hotel. Krytal was very nice in attitude, talked all the time non stop. After discussing Economics theory X, Y, and Z, we took a shower together. A bareback BJ followed by fucking in many positions. I asked her what she likes and she said anything that I like. I asked for completa (anal) and she said that it hurts but if I want, I could go ahead. I opted not to take that offer. We talked for two hours and then got busy with another round. Managed to cum somehow, and this time, came all over her face. She had nipples that I could hang my jacket on and I did not like that. Otherwise, she was fine with an average body and no marks. She asked me if I liked her, she could stay in Fortaleza for a few more days. I declined the offer and told her that I was leaving the next day too. Gave her R$50 as a present which she accepted without hesitation and I left for my hotel. My energy level was very low at that moment. Lack of sleep for 2 days and 3 nights was taking a toll on me. It was already 7 PM, walked to BeBelu and ate dinner. Man, this place is very inexpensive but, at the same times, very nice. Ate chicken breast with salad in a pita, coke and a double scoop of ice cream.(R$ 8). How could one go wrong. Asked them to make me their best pita sandwich and took it with me. Gave that dinner to the first poor street woman that I saw on the street. I was born and raised in a third world country before coming to the US for graduate studies and have traveled extensively around the world but have not seen such disparity b/w rich and poor anywhere. I get these feeling each time I come to Brazil. Went to La Habana Café and smoked a Cohiba cigar for R$30. Man that was expensive but that was to attribute TomB. Smoked the cigar with cafe con leche e asuca. As I finished half the cigar, I was feeling dizzy even though I am a heavy smoker of Marlboro. During my whole trip, heavy drinking including lots of beers, red bull, cachaca, wine, caipirinha, caipperoska, and vodka could not tumble me but this cigar did that to me. I didn't think I would be able to smoke anymore cigarette during my trip. Half the cigar was enough for me. Vive Qooba (Cuba), Vive Fidel. Walked accross the cafe to Internet Cachaca. Had to write my thoughts along with info for this board that I had on several scrap papers before I loose them. Took a usual trip to Zip i Bar, Oporto, Café del Mar, Africa, and Desigual. Danced and drank a lot but did not find any garota that I could take back. Took a cab to Kiss...lots of nice looking and young lesbos making out but not interested in a 3-some with a man. Left the place and came to my room and slept for 3 hours.
jm, excellent report! debt repaid ;-)
but how about more pix? you could cover faces with blacked-circles using ms-paint or adobe or ms-pub...
one question, i'd like to compare garotas to other parts of brasil, how would you rate the mix in places like Zip i, Africa, Desidual, Mar... and the others - %-white/euro looking, %-black, % mix/mulata? i'd say rio is about 1/3 1/3 1/3, while Recife is more black with less white, and about 50% mulata / classic brasil look.
thanks!
Thanks Leo and thanks for giving me an idea of how to cover faces.
Those were the only girls that I had sex with and those were the only pictures I got.
Percentage wise, I found the girls in Fortaleza pick-up joints, 10% White, 65% Mulata, and 25% blacks.
Hi Jose!!!!
Great report....!!!:-)Many details and much info,just like we all need it.
But I can't see your pics:-(
regards,
Johan.
Wow!! Jose M.
Nice report! I love a report that makes me laugh. Some funny stuff, man!! Nothing like sex with a sense of humour!
As for renting phones in Brazil, I think most hobbyist that trek to Brazil, for any long period of time simply buy them. About $US100-200.
Ciao
Jose Marcia - Fantastic report
Do you have any more information about the disease Silvani had?
The name of it? It's total duration? What medicine she used on it if any?
I bet I could cure her permanently if I had more information.
It's probably something stupid and simple and she may suffer her whole life in ignorance. Not to mention missing out on a lot of dollars.
Anyway, just in case you don't have more info and you run into her again. Odds are it's a result of some chemical (cheap detergent, pesticides, fertilizers, etc) seeping into her skin in combination with sun exposure. Sun exposure alone doesn't cause something like that REGARDLESS of what other monkey doctors tell you to get you into their office. Other possiblities are ingested medicines and chemicals (god forbid) also possibly interacting with sun exposure. Finally, the worst case scenario, is that she had AIDS, in which case all kinds of bizarre things like that start happening.
If the lesions where only on the buttocks and backs of her thighs that suggests that her skin is being affected when she is sitting which points towards her clothing. The extra pressure opens pores and grinds toxins into the skin when sitting. She's probably doing laundry with some shit that glows in the dark with toxins.
No medicine in the world would fix a toxic reaction like that so don't feel guilty about not taking her to the pharmacy either. That would just have steered her down the wrong road.
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the note Johann. I may try to make it although I was looking to go the end of March. Can you tell me ; if I book a flight to Rio or Sau Pauolo, how much is the flight to Fortaleza from there? Can I get right on a flight to Fortaleza without pre-booking? They have many flights a day?
Also, how much is a good apt? I will be staying alone so...
Thanks again,
Eric
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shiny
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
Do you have any more information about the disease Silvani had?
Sorry Shiny, I do not have any information about her skin disease nor so I know what and if she used any medication.
I bet I could cure her permanently if I had more information.
lol. What are you planning to inject her with?
It's probably something stupid and simple and she may suffer her whole life in ignorance.
You are right. But they are very poor over there and may not afford a decent doctor.
don't feel guilty about not taking her to the pharmacy either.
I later thought about that but I was very very drunk at that time and could not make any judgement except to let her go. I feel bad though but I was not there to marry anyone. I am already married with children and got a girl friend on the side.
I see lots of emails to me stating that folks are not getting an access to the photo link.
go to http://www.shutterfly.com
email: jose425@hotmail.com
password: jose425
good luck.
Here are my ratings of the chicks who let Jose Marcia take photos.
It's good to calibrate the scales now and then.
Rachel = 5
Carine = 6 (body only)
Krystal = 6
Silvani = 5
Massage #1 = 6
Mary (blue top) = 7
Mary (pink top) = 5
Mary (white top) = 6
Nicole = 8
Liliane = 5
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b333809245e8¬ag=1
e-simmons:
here a good link for you:
http://www.flatshop.com.br/residence.htm
ask for ADRIANA....the woman speaks english.
I pay 35 real a day for a flat. 24 hours guarded.
Most Hotels do NOT allow 'guests"...unless you pay extra money:-( My advise is: take a flat or an appartment.
JOSE:
I still can NOT see your pics allthough I did everything what you told us to do to see em....:-(
did you change the email adress?? password???
bye.
Johan.
Hi Johan,
you made nothing wrong. This afternoon I has seen the pictures but now it's not more possible. I agree with shiny that the most girls has an average look, but I would non from that girls give a 8 rating. I know beauty is relative and some may found a girl pretty and the other one not. Also some girls don't look good at photo, but in real live they look good.
Nevertheless it was a very good report from Jose Marcia and he had a lot of fun.
Very good post Jose!
Dieter
Johan, paste this into your browser. It will work.
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b333809245e8
Vampyr:
sorry...but again I got this message:-(
We're sorry, the share you are trying to access does not exist.
Either the link (URL) you used was not entered properly, or this share has been disabled. Please check the link and make sure it is correct. If it is correct, you may wish to contact the sharer and request that they share the pictures with you again.
:-(
Johan.
Johan, make sure you registered..then sign on.... then use copy and paste the url from the previous post, it worked for me.
JOSE MARCIA:
Well done with the ladies -- there're some cute ones in there. I zapped about 15 girls in Fortatleza about a year ago and took picutres, too. Gotta get them up. I'm planning a trip in a few months, and your pictures have really whetted my appetite.
Thanks again,
JWadd
Guys,
finaly i was to see the pics that Jose had taken from some chicas in Brasil.
Here are "my" results....
Rachel=6.5
Carine....only body 7...alas no face.
Krystal=5.5 (sorry just not enough for a "six")
Silvani=4 (Yikes!I personaly never would have taken this one....but that's personal)
the MASSAGE garota was IMHO 7.5 (!)
Mary definately a LOOKER with an straight 8
Nicole=6.5
Liliane also a 7
Alas NO real stunners as to my taste......
personaly I like em a bit chunky with a big round ass,nice tits and a small waiste.
Real skinny or FAT ones I simply don't do:-(
Color makes no real difference allthough I have a slightly preference for tanned/darker colours.But I'll do a "white" garota that rings my bell any day as well LOL.
I guess no girl would go naked on a pic??? I'll try that next time.
Also I will try to organise a Gangbang with several chicks.
Together with buddy Dieter and maybe some other Dutch/German guys there,we could possibly set something up.
Let you guys know by then.(will post pics)
Johan.
Jose,
please keep in mind that the figures I gave for the girls are MY personal opinions.
I appreciate your work and your posting!!!!
Could you tell us MORE about the sexual activities that these garotas preformed and your opinion???
Did they do anal??swallow come?? Suck dick without a rubber??
Please inform us if you want.
I definately will look for MASSAGES parlors and things like that!!!
Johan.
Sorry, I was away for 5 days. I had a big smile after looking at the "rating". Thanks guys. I agree with the ratings. I was very very drunk during almost all of my trip. At any given night, the girl I was with, I thought was a perfect "10". LOL. I disagree now for sure. The whole idea of giving you folks all the details is that you do not make the same mistakes I made. Have fun if you ever end up in Fortaleza. LEARN PORTUGUESE and your milage will almost always be better than mine.
johan, we can not generalize with "all". However, here is my opinion. Also, it depends on how old are you, how do you look like and how much does the girl like you?
Did they do anal??
Some didn't like anal sex but most were willing to do it to make me happy. I only want this activity if the girl wants it. Also, depends on the size of your insturment too. LOL.
swallow cum??
Again, some will do it.
Suck dick without a rubber??
Almost all. I never like that from a pro. Sorry, but that is my personal thing. Also, I do not french kiss them either. However, with any semi-pro, I do it all. During this trip, I did not meet anyone who won't suck my dick without a rubber. I did not even have to ask. This is a normal sexual act with Brazileras.
Jose, yah there are a few good ones! As long as you were happy to bang these chicks, good for you. How does Fortaleza compared to Rio? I've been to Rio before and will go Forteleza after Carnaval(Salvador) this year. I would have to agre with the previous posts that the highest raking girl in your picks is an 8. Are there any places to find 9's or 10's in Fortaleza? What about local non-pro sluts who like to hook up with white guys? My portuguese is basic.
How does Fortaleza compared to Rio?
amjeck: IMHO, Rio costs twice and Sao Paulo costs three times as much as Fortaleza. However, the quality is also better in Rio and SP.
Are there any places to find 9's or 10's in Fortaleza?
That was the best, I could do in Fortal.
What about local non-pro sluts who like to hook up with white guys?
I am not sure. If I knew, I would have had some for myself. hehehe.
Jose Marcia:
RIGHT again!!!
IN Forta I hear you can do a garota for about R$ 50-80 all night!!!!
The GF-eperience will be a LOT more $$$$$ ....so I don't do all nighters. 1-3 hours is just fine with me.
better rent a GF-friendly poussada or an appartment.(which I did)
Most Hotels do NOT allow GF"s!!!!!:-(
Try this in Rio or SP.....FORGET IT!!!
You will spend more money on garotas/hotels there...that's for sure.
Johan.
guys,
if you are in fortaleza check out the DEL MAR cafee.....iracema area.
!!!!!Girls....girls....girls....!!!
Africa is closed.
Zipi bar is good for starters.
This place ROCKS!!!
no time to loose on to the next garota:-)
Johan.
I was in Fortalezain dec. There was an abundance of SW a block frm the beach ln Ave Abolicio?sp starting at the point near the flea market going north towards Iracema. I had notrouble findnggirls for 50 Real o take bck to my Hotel. Ihad ne7 and a9. the 9 did bbbj and would have stayed all nit if I let her She ao let me work sans condom, which, while n advisble, sureid feel nice. The action strts at 9 pm ands goes past idnight. Girls n nearly every street corner.
Johan, Dieter, Boyz! What is going on here? I mean, You have some responsabilities here! Where's the report? Those garrotas can't be THAT good!!
I hope you didn't get overdosed on Viagra!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Burnie
[i]Johan, Dieter, Boyz! What is going on here? I mean, You have some responsabilities here! Where's the report? Those garrotas can't be THAT good!!
I hope you didn't get overdosed on Viagra! [/i][/QUOTE]
I second to Burnie. I know that those garotas are really great but come on. Where is the report? and the photos?? he he he. I am waiting along with many others.
GUYS,
TRUST ME here it is a real waiSte of time to hang out every day for an hour or more in an internetcafee....!!!!!
Everywere are many pretty garotas.
If you speak decent portugese a GF is quickly made. However I think when looking for marriage m,aterial this city is LESS suiteble.
I allready asked 4 Hookers if they allow me to make a pic. They all said NO....:-(
Form the 8 ho~s I did so far 6 turned out to be good to great.(regarding the sex activities).
2 ho~s were down right a complete waiste of TIME,MONEY and EFFORT!!!:-(
I so far found out that most ho,s that are quite and not very spontaneous are usualy a bad fuck.
Another Ducth guy how I met here confirmed also this "theory".
If you meet guys that had girls before ask them for more info. Students who only are "weekend-hookers" are usualy bad fucks...and not into it.(i did two of them...so I know)
Another bad thing is that even IF you have a real (non-pro) girlfriend they ALL turn out to be very un reliable.
If you set a date for 19,00....they show up at 20,00...or don~t come at all!!!!!
In the last case it,s "bye-bye" and on to the next garota. So many to pick from...so you don,t have to take any crap from them.
Italians here are a real pain in the azz. They overpay the girls and also threat them like shit.
Normal price for an all nighter is about 100 Real...(€ 26,-)
If you look good and not too old and speak good portugese you can have em for 50-70 Reals....
An hour in a ***** house is about 60-80 Reals. I was twice in a *****house and twice very satisfied with the supplied service. However with the girls working in the *****houses is NOT possible a BBBJ...everything is with condom....and that is understandeble.
However two girls I had from Zippi bar or Desegual gave me a bare BJ....:-)
Here is a Cel phone number of a hooker which is realy realy good. Her name is TATJANA,she is about 160cm,blonde (not natural)a bit chubby but great looking 9BIG TITS AND GREAT AZZ) and gives a 100 % sex activity:-)
When in Fortaleza call :
88168337
BUT...she does NOT speak any english...!!!!!;-)
That is a cell number....outside fortaleza you have to dial the 085 number city code before.
She is a real sex animal. If you like good sex...take her.
Johan.
Guys, this afternoon me and Dieter tried out a real sleazy *****house. I loved every fucking minute of it....
Guess what??? About 10 girls are working there 24 hours a day 7 days a week!!!!!!
From two girls i know they also fuck in the azz (Susanne and neima) Susanna is a morena 170 with big tits and large azz. Neima (the one i did) was about 165 with big tits also but a smaller azz.....Both were pretty girls imho and friendly (no attitudes)
Prices are 60 reals per hour...!!!!!
Blow job without condom:-)
Nice relaxed atmosfere...no hussle.
If you don,t bring your own rubbers they charge 2 reals per rubber.
The adress is
RUA ALFONSO CELSO # 70. (THIS IS IN THE ALDEOTA NEIGHBORHOOD).
tHEY ALSO HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR TAKE OUT GIRLS.(but I don.t have that on me right now)
Most ho's are between 18 (!) and 25.....:-) If you oder them there for take out they cost 120 Real per hour. My advise is to go there once and ask the girls (private)cell number....;-) That saves money..
Have fun....
greetings from the brasilian front.
Johan.
Hey Johan007,
Glad to hear your enjoying Carnival in Fortaleza. Are you and Dieter, going to Manaus? If so don't forget the report...
Don't forget to try Canoacebrada (sp?) on the weekend ;-)
Ciao
Johan or any others with information,
How did you find appartments in F.? How much do they cost?
litium:
try this
http://www.flatshop.com.br/residence.htm
they have cheap appartments GF-friendly,no hussles.
paid 35 real a day. (that's about € 9.50)
All-nighters are about 100 real....1 hour in a *****house abut 60-80 Real (depending on your 'wishes")
Streetworkers.....20(!!) Real for an hour.
Brasil indeed is hooker heaven.
Johan.
PS: Brasil is much cheaper then peru...also with inlandflights.
I was in Fortal just 2 months ago and getting an itch to take another mongering trip to South America. I need help of you sexperts.
I have a few free tickets that i can use to travel to South America (frequent flyer miles).
I can not make up my mind b/w Fortaleza and Cartgena. I have been to Cali before. Prices seem to be the same. Any ideas there?? pros and cons???
I had a GF from Cali, Colombia to whom I almost got married, Therefore, I know their culture too.
Hey Johan...how you doing? I hope you are having fun. Got any report/photos.
Thanks to all of you.
do both!
if you have aa miles, that is.
aa allows a stopover (not layover) on all their award trips. thus, you could go xxx/mia/clo, hang in cali, continue on tam clo/gru/for, then home by combining tam/aa - for/gru/mia/xxx.
you can do it the other way, also, going to fortaleza first. and you may be allowed a layover (multiple nights stay) in the hub city of sao paulo...
and, on aa it's only 40k miles (vs. ussual 60k miles) during parts of mar/apr/may and again parts of aug/sep/oct/nov.
i did this last year, 40k miles for 2.5 wks in recife and 2 wks in argentina.
http://*************************FortalezaFans/
My newest Fortaleza yahoogroup Monger list!!!!
Postings can be done in English,Dutch,German and Portugese.
Pics,info's,stories etc are WELCOME!
Jose: Avoid Colombia right now imho.
Go to Fortaleza!!!! it's saver,cheaper and MORE *****s then you'll even can handle!!!
Just learn some Portugese...and you'll be fine.
just my 2 € cents
Johan.
Johan, thanks for the tip. I think I would go to Fortaleza again. It guess you are back from your Brazilian trip and looks like, you had a blast there. It would be nice to read your experience down there. Photos will also be appreciated. You can email me the phtos at jose425@hotmail.com
Guys,
How about making a trip to Fortaleza during May??? Anyone interested???? Would be great to rent a nice apartment there and share the cost.
Oi to all Fortaleza insiders,
as the crackdown in Cuba still seems to go on, I am looking for an alternative travel destination.
Now I am undecided between Venezuela and Brazil.
Fortaleza looks pretty attractive to me, but still I've got some questions for you guys:
- is it ok to go there during April, is it not too crowded then or rather quiet ?
- is it possible to find there brighter skinned garotas like in southern Brazil ?
- what airlines are recommendable for direct flights from Europe ?
Cheers, scorpio
(PS: Johan, I saw some of your pics through your Fortalezafans-group at Yahoo, not bad !!!)
Scorpio:
1) April is fine. Not over-run with tourists, but it 's the tail-end of rainy season so you may still get shitty weather. Who cares? Spend more time doing "indoor activities"
2) Blondes are hard to come by (at least real ones), but plenty of light-skinned girls (well, olive-skinned anyway). If you look hard enough, you'll find whaever you want. However, why be picky Inside they are all pink! ;-)
3) KLM from Amsterdam is pretty good. Dunno about any others. There are also some cheap no-name charters from Holland.
Cheers!
Tom B.
scorpio:
From Europe several charters fly DIRECTLY to Fortaleza.
From Amsterdam it's DUTCHBIRD. They fly once a week.
Cheap. But don't expect too much from the food. Aldoholic drinks are not free.
From Italy,Finland and Portugal (TAP) also go direct flights.
KLM does NOT go directly to Fortaleza.
OO one thing about April.....it's rainly season,so if you go go in the END of April!!!;-)
Blondes are rare indeed. But then again if I go to the chinese restaurant i don't order Pizza....!!!;-)
If you realy like lighter skinned girls go NOT to Fortaleza!
However southern Brasil will be more expensive and the girls there seem to have more "attitudes"...:-(
If I would choose between venezuela and Fortaleza I didn't think long.
Venezuela right now might be a bit unsure and more dangerous as Brasil with Chavez still arround.
It's up to you.
Johan.
Hi Tom and Johan,
thanks for your reply. The weather shouldn't affect me too much, there is always something to do while staying inside... right ?
My last longer journey to Brazil was 3 years ago (Porto Alegre) and I enjoyed it.
Then 1 Real was about 1 Deutsche Mark and there was a nice private brothel where I paid 50 Reais per hour, with very nice and friendly charming girls.
scorpio
Scorpio:
Where was this in POA? Camen's?
Tom B.
Hi Tom,
I searched my old files and papernotes to find the address in question, here it is:
"Rua Gen. Camara no. 52" (5th floor, appartment no. 9)
It is in the middle of the bloc between Av. Maua and Rua Siqueira Campos.
Their phone number used to be 224-9123 but consider I was there 3 years (!) ago.
(They didn't speak English, basic Portuguese or at least some Spanish was sufficient)
I found them in the local newspaper "Zero Hora" under classificados, Acompanhantes.
I found the small private places like the above more exciting than all those hangouts along Av. Farrapos (i.e. Gruta Azul etc.)
Happy hunting, Scorpio
I'm confused about Fortaleza. Someone said that the most of the girls (pros and non-pros) in Fortaleza are ugly indian girls with flat asses and round bellies.
Another guy said there are enough good looking ones to keep you busy.
Which is the truth?
For example, when I go to 4x4 in Rio, I always find 4-6 girls (sometimes more) who are really attractive and I can fuck.
Help on the other hand, I sometimes find 1-3 girls out of (300+??) who I can fuck. Sometimes I feel like throwing up seeing the kind of girls guys stick their tongues into. Nasty.
Centauras again has 4-6 girls (sometimes more) that I can fuck.
I like girls who are dark, european features...like the novela actresses you find on t.v., except obviously darker and not as good looking.
Will this be the case at the Fortaleza bars, or are we talking really really bad quality here?
Does Recife have more of a european influence?
Hi everybody!
Me and some friends are planing a trip to Fortaleza in the near future, but we could use som tips from you guys.
How is fortaleza in July.
1. girls
2. weather
3. hotels (3 bedroom apartments)
I also wonder about the language, got a little bit of spanish, will it do me any good.
This is our first trip to Brazil and we dont know if it´s the right time or if we should wait until later this year.
From a cooooold Swede
Hey 3Amigos,
July is high seazon. (June,July and August and Decmeber/January!!)
Nice warm wheater...much sun and LOTS of garotas.
Prices however will be HIGHER.....;-)
My tip would be NOT to go to a Hotel....mostly they are not GF-friendly.
Go to a flat or rent an appartment. During that time a decent app. would be between 15-20 € a day.
On this board we discused many times cheap,decent appartments. SO watch the files!!
Fortaleza also has prety girls.
It is what you like.
If you like white European types go to Rio or to SP....and be prepared to pay MUCH MORE for hotels and girls as well. Besides that those cities do NOT have such nice beach as Forta!!!! Many cariocas come to Forta for their holidays......;-)
In Fortaleza it is a good combination of all sorts of action: Streetho's at Beia mar,the centro or Iracema. Club hookers in the numerous *****-houses....and even many call-in services...
You name it Forta has it:-) Learn Portugese,buy a newspaper or ask a taxista and let the fun start.
Or try to "warm up"yourself a garota which should NOT be too difficult if you are white and speak some Portugese;-)
In Canoa Quebrada I saw many Scandinavians. In Forta most forreign tourists are Dutch,Germans,Swiss ...ooo and tons of Italians.
But the most tourists come from Brasil themselves.......;-)
Have fun.
Johan.
A couple of questions to those that know the Fort well.
I am a frequent Copa visitor and have never gone to Fortaleza. Of course I have heard the stories. but my concerns are as follows:
1) Are the girls hot and are there enough hot girls to go around? From what I have read the girls don't compare to those found in Rio. Cheaper yes, but are they hot?
2) Is it a big city? There is a girl I met in Rio over a year ago and she still calls me to this day. I want to make sure that I won't see her when I go to Fortaleza (she lives there-and she's a stalker, absolutely crazy), will this be a problem to avoid her or are there enough people that the chances would be slim. Any HELP would be appreciated.
Friday 11 April I arrive in Fortaleza at just after 2pm in the afternoon after my two and half hour flight from Brasília. Just as I had expected, it was hot very hot indeed. On the domestic flight generally it was OK with the exception of the airport which had poor facilities; there were no seats or rather a few limited spaces.
In Fortaleza I am surprised to discover that my toda (all) Brazil telephone coverage service that I brought with my Tim chip does not work in Fortaleza; this was after I had got someone to call Tim to check on my behalf, and they are Brazilian, that the service I brought would cover the four cities I am planning to visit and also get the numbers I would have to use if I was calling from there. Despite Tim being advertised practically everywhere by Ronaldo (Football/Soccer player to the uninitiated) holding a TIM cellular; unfortunately, I cannot buy another chip here in fact I cannot purchase any phone chips here, all you can purchase is a whole telephone and none of them are TIM.
Still, I am not here just to speak on the telephone I am here for one thing and one thing only, vacation and some mongering having as much sex with as many women as possible.
I am staying in the Hotel Beira Mar and on my arrival I was a little disappointed in that this hotel was not the one I expected when I looked on the internet. The second thing is that the so-called High band internet access (LAN) does not work in the rooms, therefore I am now forced to use the additional charged dial-up service to access my account. The good thing about the hotel is that I have noticed that there are many single Brazilian women staying here, I keep bumping into them at breakfast and in at reception, although I have only got as far as saying good morning.
After unpacking and a brief walk along the beach it feels as if everyone is engaged in either jogging, walking or some sort of exercise along the beach. I get something to eat in one of the bars along the beach and whilst sitting at my table a attractive looking girl, about a 7 with nice slim body and big tits, about 1.60m tall; the type who could do with a good fuck, walks around my table instead of direct to her’s and sits there facing me, she looks at the menu for ten minutes, then gets up and leaves. I am a bit slow here, I think I was being picked up by one of the [i]garotas[/i], I should have asked her to join me so I miss out, after only a few hours here, stupid me. This being my first night I decide to use the advice of one of the earlier posts and visit one of the [i]biotes,[/i] Rua Alfonsocelso #70 in the Aldeota neighbourhood. I take a taxi and head off down there. The only problem was that whilst I had brought a map of Fortaleza the taxi driver found things by stopping and asking for directions, at one stage we asked the same people twice for the directions only to be told two different places for the place, which was some two blocks from them. Eventually we find this rather unassuming place which looks like a typical home in a residential slightly rough neighbourhood. The taxi driver then takes a nominal fee and not what is on the meter because he realised that we spent 30 minutes going back and forth on ourselves.
Once inside there are four girls and an older woman watching television and the older lady acknowledges me after a few moments and directs the girls to look after me. Two of the girls there get up and show me to a table, not my type, and ask me if I would like a drink, I take a Spirite. The girls then try to make small talk but with my poor Portuguese I gather that they ask where I am from and if it was my first time here. I can only count no more than 10 girls, who are overall average and the ages are from what looks like 19 to 35.There are only two girls I have seen that I am interested in and fortunately for me one of these girls speaks some English. Andreia, is her name tel:224 0786, she is a 6. I find out the prices and decide on a take out option which cost R$70 (U$21) at my hotel for two hours. The three hour option costs R$100 which is not so bad, but silly me, I should have asked my taxi to wait for me to take me back to the hotel assuming he would have found it.
Andreia and I get back to the hotel at around 10.30pm and just walk in, the reception does not ask for any identification from her. Andreia has a nice body with nice tits, which are a handful. We take separate showers because for some reason, despite being initially loud and giving the impression of being outgoing she is shy, maybe because she had dirty underwear or something. Then with the television on we get down to the action, she lick my dick then has a half hearted attempt at oral before declaring she doesn’t like doing bbbj, so I persuade her to continue after handing her some tissue to clean up any pre-cum. Following this she puts on a condom and starts with fucking with her on top then me from behind. She is also affectionate and plenty of hugging and kissing and the Matrix is on television dubbed in Portuguese, it helps me to learn the language. On the side of her leg I discover a nasty looking wound and she tells me that a friend put a cigarette out there, and I am thinking with friends like that do you need enemies? Anyway, I drift off to sleep and so does she because when I wake up later the Matrix is long finished and something else is on, she has to leave and asks me for money for the taxi so all an all this three hour session has cost me R$140 (U$42) including taxis. I would do Andreia again but would like to try someone else beforehand, she leave me her contact details and asks me to get in touch, its only a pity about the bbbj. Andreia allows me to take some photos on my digital camera.
The following day having found my feet I look through the newspaper at one of the massage place, despite the advert being placed in English, little or no English is spoken. But after a few days here I am very proud of the fact that I can now make myself understood and got the address of this establishment all in Portuguese. I asked how many [i]garotas[/i] are there and was told 15 girls. So it’s the afternoon the street are deserted because of the heat and I take a taxi near to [i]Praia de Futuro[/i] I get to the location in quick time and I found the address on my map, Av Renato Braga #65, tel:234 7309, next to a petrol/gas station on the way to the beach. However, despite arriving twenty minutes later, there was nowhere like the 15 girls I was expecting, I saw only four, then another one came along to make five and three were sleeping, of which I was shown, after being woken up by the boss, and who didn’t do anything for me. The girls I did see all had long faces as if they were thinking “Oh no, here’s another dick to suck. I said to the boss: on the telephone you told me there were 15 [i]garotas[/i] but I can only count seven, he said that the others had gone to lunch. The swimming pool was something else more like a hole in the ground filled with water. I am shown the rooms as we walk past some underwear drying in the sun, bras and panties. This place was very rough a run down like a crack house, being honest it was dirty, I have seen cleaner garages, still I was here so I thought I would try it out for the experience. The room was something else a dirty plastic covered round bed, the boss must have seen the look of horror on my face when I asked him if this was the room where I would do the business, he told me there was cover of some sort which goes on top.
The prices are R$30 per hour (U$ 9) take out R$50 (U$15) plus taxi so expect to pay about R$20-30 (US30) on top. This place is open 24 hours so you can get a girl or come down any time. I would suggest you come down and have a look at the girls then decide on which ones you like then in future you can order them to your hotel or motel.
I settled for one of the girls Claudia, who has a decent pair of tits and is not so bad looking. It turns out had only been working for three days earlier and I was her first customer, lucky me, it seems I am having luck with new-ish girls here in Brazil. I make small talk with Claudia and she has a nice body, I would say she is about a 7 in my books, very willing and eager to please, but this may have been due to her being new. Claudia gets a bed cover of a drying line, which strikes me that all they have done, is just dried them off after the last customer. I didn’t want to think what had been on this before me.
I take off my clothes and attempt to take a shower, but the shower is about six inches from the toilet and its basically a pipe sticking out of the wall, no shower head nor hot & cold water. The water smells rancid, like its recycled rainwater because this is the only reason I can think off why it would smell this way. I had to buy two condoms, at R$2 each, so it wise to bring your own.
Despite the dire surround and looking up at the broken ceiling where patches of sunlight is coming through I question myself, what am I doing here? Claudia was very enthusiastic with the sex and it is good, bbbj with come in mouth no problem, once again she is very affectionate and we make small talk, she tells me her family doesn’t know she is a [i]garota de program[/i] and that she only works until 8pm and had to take three busses just to get there and back. I am not able to come a second time within the hour, despite Claudia’s best efforts. It may be due to the poor conditions or the heat is beginning to get to me, sweat is literally dripping of Claudia as she trying to service me with some hard oral, as there is a knock at the door when the hour is up but she insists that I must come a second time and after 70 minutes I say she can stop. I am pleased by her performance and would definitely do her again but not in that location.
Claudia does not have a cellular phone and I said that I may call her again because she was very good, she remind me that she only work until 8pm so I should call up early. Overall, a very good experience with the girl, it just the facilities are very poor. I found the owner very willing and helpful who said any time in future I wanted a girl, no problem I asked for a card but he didn’t have any but wrote down the address for me. This establishment is geared towards Brazilian clients but is very happy to look after the foreigners.
After a couple of hours rest in my room I opt to try one of the night clubs I have read so much about so I head off to the [i] Pria de Irecema[/i] to Africas. I had dinner earlier and thought if I got to the club at around 11pm, then things would be just kicking off. I arrived at 11pm and there were 18 girls and 6 guys and three of them worked there. I must confess that I was surprised that many of the girls there looked very young, although aged around 20 they looked like 15year olds to me and I am not that old. Anybody who has been to a Termas in Rio like Centaurus cannot compare these girls on offer. It not that I am fussy but I stopped chasing girls like this when I was 11, needless to say I was disappointed after expecting to find better. Speaking honestly, there were only five girls I saw that I would have been slightly interested in. I spent around two & a half hours in there just basically observing the scene, I saw a few other guys come in and a couple just sat alone drinking and watching the scene I watched two guys, Italians, call over a couple of girls to join them and then twenty minutes later the party left the club. I don’t know what happened because 30 minutes later one of the girls was back in the club hunting around for someone else. The few guys that were there were very scruffy, with the exception of the two Italians, and I would say they should be wise to fix themselves up a bit, a t-shirt, rough shorts and flip flops would be described as being [i]Eurotrash[/i] on the beaches in southern France.
A few of the girl were making eye contact with me and gyrating provocatively, but to be honest they didn’t do anything for me. Then after about 20 minutes of hard staring at me, whilst turning her chair to face me directly this one girl came up to ask me why I wasn’t dancing. It was not until 12.50am I saw one girl, who actually looked like a woman, I called her over and brought her a drink. As I was talking with Jose tel: 8816 1601, a couple of the girls came up to speak to her, one of those dancing in front of me. It felt as if they were saying to one another, you are so lucky at least you’ve got a customer tonight.
After some small talk with Jose, she told me she was 30 of which I commented that she only looked 24, her two friend she came with decided to leave and go elsewhere, leaving her with me. In our discussion she said the place was no good because there were so many girls in there; I said that I liked women not young looking girls because I found many of them too young looking for me with little or no breasts or booty (bum bum). Anyway, after about 30 minutes I said let’s get out of here and go, she agreed. Because I had been getting on so well with her it slipped my mind that she was a [i]garota[/i] because just as we were getting into the taxi she said to me do you know what the price is and quoted me R$100,(U$30) I didn’t negotiate and just said, OK. On our arrival at the hotel, at just after 1.30am, the night receptionist said that I would have to pay extra for my room because I was only being charged a single room rate.
In the room no time was wasted we took a shower together, and then got down to the sex, with a poor attempt at oral, with her saying something about her mouth being very small (?). She was affectionate, it was more like poor acting a change of positions, and the sex was purely functional and to be honest I was not enjoying it that much compared to the other girls I had tried. As soon as I came she was off to the bathroom, I thought to brush her teeth, but she was getting dressed to go home, this surprised me but in the end I just gave her the money and let her go, but she still gave me her number and said to get in touch because she said she liked me, more like she liked the money. My experience with this girl was very poor I wouldn’t put myself out to try this again. Overall the session would have been rated a 3, the session lasted around twenty minutes and for R$100,(U$30) not worth it.
After this, I decided to avoid the clubs in favour of a different approach, the reason being that the scene starts late, the choice of girls, IMHO, is not that good; then after investing all that effort it can still be rather hit or miss.
I notice in my hotel that despite the relative poor facilities there seems to be many single Brasília women (well this is Brazil) or in pairs. These tend to be middle class Brazilian girls. I notice a couple at breakfast, one with a very fit body but I didn’t speak to them because they were heading off to the [I] Pria do futuro[/i] beach but I did let her know I was looking. Anyway, I decide to have a day off and rest up to write up a report. The one thing I enjoy about Fortaleza is being able to jog along the beach early in the mourning. However, I don’t know if it is because of the heat or what because I have come up in a heat rash on the top part of my chest this will teach me to try jogging without a top on.
The following morning I spot the woman, I saw at breakfast the previous day, she isn’t stunningly beautiful, but she’s one of these women who has a great body that is, sexy, and she has a great pair of tits on her and has an allure to her. Mind you, all the other guys at breakfast notice her as well, single or married, but I am on vacation and decide that what the hell, why not speak to her. So I made some feeble excuse and then ask if she speaks English, she apologizes and says no, I ask why and she starts laughing so I said they she was very beautiful, in my pigeon Portuguese. If that’s one thing those Brazilian women like and that is flattering comments. After some small talk with the aid of a dictionary and many wrong words I invite her to dinner. Sadly for me she is leaving that day anyway we took a stroll to the beach and spend about two hours together, we exchange addresses tel no’s etc and it turns out that Fabiana, is journalist for a radio station and had a three year old daughter, she is single. She says I should visit her home city, which doesn’t have any beaches but many swimming pools. Naturally, when she asked what I was doing I didn’t tell her everything, she kept saying that it’s a shame we couldn’t have met earlier. Then we part, I have a bit of a tour in the city and then later on in the afternoon the receptionist give me a note that Fabiana left for me, saying she really enjoyed the short time we had and thanks me for making her happy and is looking forward to seeing me again. All I did was just talk to her and tell her she was beautiful.
My last night in Fortaleza I decide to do something special, after the previous experience at the club I decide to give that scene a wide berth. I decide to hook up with Claudia again, but not at the same location I was considering my hotel but after meeting Fabiana earlier, I had this feeling that I could walk into the hotel and find her waiting there, so I opt for a motel. I went back to the owner of the Massage parlour tel:234 7309 and do a deal with him, he doesn’t haggle and gives me Claudia and one other girl, Erica for R$100 for two hours (only R$25 each p/h) which is less than I had expected to pay. I decide to indulge myself with what most guys fantasize about, two women and wild, wild sex, some thing I would recommend, every guy should try at least once in their life. Once again Claudia doesn’t let me down, we try different things; the other girl Erica, wants to perform oral on me under the running shower, whilst Claudia is rubbing her naked body against my back, I try this for about five minutes and decide this is not for my liking standing up. Being 100% honest, I am unable to come twice in the two hours, I don’t know if it through too much sex and combined with the heat but despite trying various positions I make it only once. I guess I am satisfied by the experience, which was much better than the previous [i]garota[/i]. In terms of the cost it actually comes to less than I had expected; the two girls work out at R$100,(U$30) for two hours, the motel R$38, (U$11)the tip for the girls R$30 (U$9) and a bite to eat at McDonalds, R$20, (U$6) taxi trips all around R$ 50 (U$15) thus giving me a grand total of R$238, (U$71) the time I am with the girls actually works out to around three hours but no one is complaining and everyone is happy. I also arrange for the taxi driver to take me to the airport at 5.45am the following morning.
[b]So summing up FORTALEZA, IMHO[/b] I would have to say reading some of the earlier posts that this is not Rio or São Paulo, the girls of Rio and São Paulo are far superior to what you will find in Brasília and Brasília is far superior to Forteleza. Whilst a few of the girls in Centaurus could grace the cover of Playboy, I saw [u]no girls [/u] that would even come close to getting on the back or any pages. Anybody who believes that they are going to find these types of girls at only a fraction of the price of what they would pay down south will be sadly disappointed. Many people have said this is a wonderful place for mongering, maybe it is in terms of the price but the quality is not the same as you will find down south. This is a much cheaper place to visit compared to southern Brazil in terms of hotels, [i]garotas[/i] and eating out I am also impressed by the way the city administration runs the place, beach and sidewalks are clean and it relatively safe to walk around at nights. But in terms of the girls this is as close as you can get to the bottom end of the market, so if you happen to be fussy about girls in Help or Centaurus then I would suggest you are wasting your time up here. You may find regular girls in hotels who are far more superior, but you will have to invest much time and effort with these women.
I don’t agree with an earlier comment that if you are white you will meet lots of girls Loiras, Morenas, Mulattas I met the lot and I am black and all the girls commented that they found me handsome and the ones that own a cellular phone gave me their numbers and were happy for me to take photos. So don’t be fooled, meeting girls here has nothing to do with your race but on how you present yourself. As I have said earlier many of the guys really need to take pride in their appearance and wash more frequently and use deodorant.
I grab a few hours sleep and I am up early, off to Manaus and had to catch the early flight 7am, via Brasília, I don’t know why there are not any direct flights, but this is Brazil and the airlines operate in strange ways.
Thanks for the great, detailed post, Juniour. Sounds like the scene in Fortaleza has really diminshed. Did you even bother to look in Desigual's? Sorry you had such a mixed time.
Happier Hunting,
JWadd
JWADD,
In response to your question about being disappointed with Fortaleza, I would say that maybe my expectations were too high. I had low expectations for Brasília but was pleasantly surprised, likewise the same for Salvador which I am currently enjoying On Manaus I am 50 50 I will post a report later. I would certainly visit Fortaleza again but adopt a different approach. I didn’t visit Desiguals because as it has well been documented here that the same girls visit several clubs on any given night, so I made an assumption that I am likely to see the same level of girls, just at different venues.
I would say to anyone planning on visiting that its still worth going for a break, but don’t expect to find the same level of [i]garotas[/i] as you would in Rio or São Paulo. I can only assume that any [i]garota[/i] worthy would have already made her way down south where she can earn three or four times the amount than in Fortaleza.
Juniour,
Great post. Gald to see guys tell great stories again. Thanks for the laughs. Your stories remind me of the my wonderful experiences in Fortaleza. Pity you didn't check out some of the small beautiful resort beaches. They can be excellent party places on the weekends and the beaches are fantastic.
To bad you didn't check out Desigual. It a sort-of "mini-HELP" and the garotas are much better. In someways I liked Fortaleza, more than Rio, for the beaches, cheap food, cheap booze and cheaper garotas and better GFE. Plus it was more tranquil, than Rio. It will never beat Rio, but its a great get-a-way destination, if your looking for something uniquely different.
I see your heading to Manaus. This is another one of my favourite get-a-way destinations for something uniquely different. Check out my report on Manaus and enjoy this sites and very, very unique opportunity for great GFE. I look forward to your report and would love an update on anything extra mongering activities, as I will be heading back to Manaus in November/December.
Ciao
Spidy
Hi
I going to Fortaleza in Jully, for my 1ª time. I´ll stay in a Flat, on Av Beira Mar, near to Meireles Beach.
I need some tips about, where I can find some garotas. There is any site with acompanhantes??
Can anybody helps me?
Thanks
Jorge
Louvad, i guess that in Fortaleza the girls prefer to show themselves on the beach and in the boates at night than paying for adding their pictures on an internet site.
just ^check out the block where the action is, near Pirata bar and Desigual, you'll find the girls can check them out instead of being cheated with photos that maybe have been modified to hide some "defects".
if you want i can give you the phonenumber of a girl that's really nice (gotta speak portuguese though).
Paolino
Tanks to respond. I´m Portuguese and the language isn´t problem :).
I´ll stay in Iracema beach, in a flat.
What is the phone number of a girl that's really nice?
Can anybody give more tips?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Louvad
There is any site with acompanhantes?? Jorge
You can check this newpaper site that gets updated daily.
http://diariodonordeste.globo.com/classif/consultando.asp?Item=P1209
Louvad,
about the phone number i'll give it to you via e-mail, if you don't mind. Hope you'll understand.
ok, it's: bruspocat@hotmail.com
cheers
Junior,
love to read your post about Forta man!!! It's accurate imho.
First off all I want to make some comments as I wrote myself some postings about Fortaleza.
1) I never ever said Fortaleza is to be compared with Rio or SP. Sure I admit the girls there are MUCH prettier...BUT they will cost you 300 % MORE!!!
I am European and don't make so much money as the average US guy....so??If you look GOOD and speak Portugese you will find availeble women that are 8-9's...even in Forta!!!:-)
2) Not all europeans are low lifes Juniuor.
I myself shower every day...use deodorant and even after shave!!!
LOL I also reguly change cloths;-)
YES...and I brush my teeth as well...lol.
3) I think that in every country you have TRASH......so maybe there is also US TRASH???
4) I enjoyed my stay REALY GOOD. (yes Realy!) And I am back in November for another tour of 3 weeks with some of my buddies.
ymmv.
Johan.
I'm headed to Fortaleza in late August. I've never been to Brazil, and speak absolutely no Portuguese. My sister has given me her timeshare for a week at this place called Aquaville Resort in Porto Das Dunas about 19 miles from the airport and that's all I know about it. Has anyone ever heard of it or that area?
Also where should I go? Is there a place that I can hook up with other experienced mongers? I know in Costa Rica you go to the Del Rey, is there a place like that in Fortaleza?
Any info would be appreciated.
Snooky...
Snooky:
Friend, you're in for a wild time. Read some of the report already written here, and be aware that Fortaleza is highly seasonal - what one guy experiences in April will be totally different than what another guy experiences in April. Fortunately for you, AUgust is a "high-season" for mongering. Unfortunately, the reason for this is because the town is over-run with Italians.. but they're not to hard to shake off and the locals will be so happy to see that you're not Italian that you'll do fine.
Anyway, let's start with your timeshare. Porto das Dunas is a place that you're average monger should avoid like a herpes-ridden toothless 3-dollar *****. Basically, it's an extreme suburb of Fortaleza where some bright boys decided to build a huge American-style water park. Why someone would want to do that right next to a beuatiful Ceara beach is beyond me. Be that as it may, it attracts upper-middle class Brazilians on holiday (WITH their families) from all over Brazil to come and say they've "DONE" Beach Park - in other words, it's a Brazilian Orlando (ironic considering how many Brazilians have invaded the real Orlando). In other words, it's over-run with middle-level managers from Sao Paulo and their broods. The park has a US$60/day entrance fee to keep out the riff-raff (including any fuckable young girls). So you've got yourself a week in a condo in the Brazilian Orlando. On the other hand, Fortaleza girls will be VERY inpressed that you have a condo in Porto das Dunas - then again, they'll be impressed that you're not Italian, so who cares?
My not-so-humble opinion - get a modest hotel room in Fortaleza (US$40 a night or less) and use the Condo for daytime or occasional nightimte getaways- all the mongering action is in Fortaleza, and mostly late, and you dont' want to be driving home to Porto das Dunas at 4AM. Alternatively, flip day for night, monger in Fortaleza all night and sleep in the condo during the day. Or find yourself a nice longtime girl in Fortaleza nad import her to Porto das Dunas. Suffice to say , there is NO action in Porto das Dunas. However, it's halfway to Canoa Quebrada which has some nice nightlife (no mongering though).
As for the "epicenter" for action in Fortaleza, that's the IRacema neighborhood - but there is no "monger's bar" like there is in RIo or C.R.. As I wrote, check out old posts here.
Enjoy!
Tom B.
Tomb,
Thanks for the info. I kind of like the oasis away from hubbub and party in Fortaleza. I kind of like the hooking up for the week kind of deal but I'll definitely have to do some serious interviewing. How far is Porto das Dunas from the mongering points in Fortaleza.
Snooky...
45 minutes by car
Is there any termas like solarium in fortaleza?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nordboer
[i]Is there any termas like solarium in fortaleza? [/i][/QUOTE]
The simple answer is "NO"
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jose marcia
[i]The simple answer is "NO" [/i][/QUOTE]
Maybe is it?but its difficult to find?
If not then we have to start one
Hi,
What is the best time to go to Fortaleza for maximum pussy variety? I am spoiled by Rio and Sao Paulo, and am afraid to find mostly dogs and italian tourists.
I am also wondering how hard it is to fuck non-hookers in Fortaleza? It is hard, but not impossible in Sao Paulo and rio. Is it even harder in Fortaleza, or easier because they are poorer?
Thanks
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Rionut,
here's the scoop:
You are right...there are many DOGS BUT there are also many goodlooking women.
However their sex performance is good.
From the 14 hookers I did only 1 (one) was real LOUSY. (I kicked her out with cab fare)
Best times are april- may,september-november.
The rest of the time it is HIGH saizon and expensive or bad wheater. (rain saizon).
IF you want to fuck 9-10's be prepared to pay extra $$$$$$$$$.
You are right the place is LOADED with Italians. Little arrogant flashy punks:-(
They overpay the bitches. And that sucks.
On the other hand it is real EASY to fuck non-pro's IF you speak Portugese.
My bet is that your changes to fuck NON-Pro's are much better in Forta then in Rio,because in Rio or SP many women have jobs and money.(and attitudes....)
;-)
have fun!
Johan.
PS: I trather fuck a HORNY Dog,then a bad-attituded Babe;-) But that's just MHO.
Thanks Johan. I do not like the sound of arrogant Italians overpaying the girls. I heard that the Italians who come to Brazil are from the lower classes, so lack manners and are rude.
Are there Italians all year or do they just come during European vacations? How many did you see when you were there?
I speak Portuguese okay...did the non-hookers seem open to meeting foreign guys, or do they run away from us because they don't want to be seen as a *****?
I am really excited to check out fortaleza, especially to go the beaches in ceara. they look beautiful from the pictures.
have you been to other cities in the north and northeast?
Johann,
you might be right about italians being arrogant, about overpaying them hos i don't know, most of all they have a tendency to talk loud....and i mean really loud with an explosive voice....well, nobody's perfect!
the funny thing is that they don't like to say that they paid for getting laid, they rather sa that the girl invited them to see the most beautiful beaches and they didn't even have to pay the gasoline for the car....
i don't know if some of you experienced that travelling alone you easily get bugged by some ugly reject of a ho, especially in those moments where you sit alone at some beach barraquinha....that's why i try to get me some pals amongst the local folks right at the beginning.
cheers
Paolino,
Italians also reali like to show off with expensive designer clothes etc.etc.
But what was surprising (or in fact not surprising) was that they drank on a whole evening maybe 2-3 cokes or 1-2 beers.
Most Italians ONLY went out there to score pussy,while Germans,Dutch or Scandinavian guys also drink a lot. (well most of them). Usualy I don't drink till my brains went pop....I like to stay clear when being "on the hunt".
I* know Italians payed up to 200 real for ho's in desegual. For those I paid 100 of 120.
In fact many ho's simply asked what nationality you had. If you weren't Italian they simply walked by looking for an Italian (ie looking for more money!)....!!!
Another factor is that Italians learn quickly portugese and many hookers allready speak some Italian. So they have a small language advantage above Germanic language speakers like me;-) I mean my Portugese sucks.....my spanish is ok. But also spanish most hookers didn't understand!!!(realy)
On the other hand I hear several stories that most hookers realy don't like the attitudes of the italian macho guys and more liked Dutch,Germans or Scandinavians.
But ONLY because the Italians paid much MORE they often had the best ho's on the spot:-(
So it's simply a $$$$/€€€ matter.
Did see NO Americans at all. Only 2-3 UK turists,and they were NOT into mongering.
Johan.
(just one "n"..)
johan
i'm italian and i never drink less than 5 caip. every night :)
but, it's normal:
italians think germans are stupid
germans think the same about scandinavian
ecc ecc
but the brazilian girls are not interested in it....
only money!!!!!
99% what they speak is shit.
But i don't think italian pay more.....
bye
Hello
Im going to fortaleza in july is it many italians people there in july?
How much you pay for a girl in desugual?
No nordboer, most Italians have their vacations only on August.
I'm italian and I was in Fort last year from the end of July (25) till 13th of August and I can confirm you that things changed in whorse only the last ten days of my trip.
abuot the second question I used to pay abuot 70-80 R for the night (girls usually didn't talk for the money before, it just was natural that the next morning when thy left, I gave them the money)
have fun and don't forget to report
Recently came back from Fortaleza.
Some advice:
Learn some Portuguese (or Spanish). Absolutely imperative.
For quick and easy (hell, too easy) action go to Desegual or Cafe del Mar. You'll find pros and amateurs there, although I never figured out the difference, which is quite common in these places. If you're just into sex, pay the girl the next morning max 80 R$ and throw her out. You'll notice there is no other way to get rid of them. If you're into GFE, lots of opportunities here, but, remember, when you go back home, there'll be a bunch o guys waiting in line, and she does not see the difference.
If you really want something special try some local party. Its a lot cheaper and results can be the same. The satisfaction of achieving something in these places is much higher, because you're definitely not dealing with pro's. Problem is that normally these places can be quite a long way from Iracema.
I am going the Fortress at the end of July. I liked to know some clues (nightclubs, girls), of who was recently in Forlaleza.
A Hug
Louvad
there are not so many nightclubs in Forta.
However if you like sleasy fuckmotels,parc-hookers or disco ho's you will be in heaven.
Also LOTS of hoorhouses. Just take a newspaper,read the ads and phone for adresses.
OR ask a cabbie. Hell even were I stayed were INROOM hookers!!!
It's handy to buy a cheap cell phone there (fe OI). I buyed one for 300 Real (a SIEMENS card cell). Don't have a minute regret of that action. Works like a charm when in Brasil.
Many "freelancers"use cells......just ask their number. They will give it to you with hapiness;-)
I am sure I posted somewere some numbers and adresses of places were you can get laid for peanut money.
The best *****s are the club*****s,but that's mho.
Johan.
ps: OOO but JUST learn some Portugese. IMHO also nobody understood even spanish. Besides that Brazilians don't like if people speak spanish to them.
just my 2 e cents;-)
Memek,
How good looking were the non-pros generally, and did you find that they run away from foreign guys???
How far away are the regular clubs from Iracema, and how filled with foreigners and Italians does Fortaleza get?
Thanks.
Hello all
I´m going to Fortaleza from 20-30 July.
I have been lots of times in Cuba (not in Varadero), I mean the real Cuba: Cienguegos, Camaguey, Havana - not-for-tourists-zone, etc.. I´m very fluent in Spanish - much more than in English.
Can someone suggest me a place were to found young girls (18+, of course) for a nice trio with my girlfriend ? How much should we pay ?
I´m not in one hour scenes. We want to dinner with her and spend the night in a hotel the 3 of us . Is that acceptable for Brasilians standards ?
We can speack very well Portuguese.
Thanks in advance.
After my retur I will report every thing.
HanseeundMary@hotmail.com
Every place in Praia de Iracema is full of young girls at evening, and if you are lucky you can found a non-pro (just 1 a week). I don't remember the name but the best place for young is in front of pirata club. The girls in Iracema are pro or semi-pro, no normal girls, the only place nearly the Iracema club, more quiet is Orbita in Dragao do Mar, and the cafe too. Some know about a whiskeria whit very nice girls, is a 1/2 hour out of downtown.
How know Adriana? Is easy to found her in Zipy or Cafe del Mar or Desigual.
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I'm italian, of course I like some italians guys, I don't like some others.
As well as I like some German guys, I don't like some others.
As well as americans. As well as all the other nationality of the world.
So all the post 'bout italians sounds very racist to me...
I'll be in Fortaleza, for my first time, next week. I have to go there in August, 'cos I have my vacation only in August. So I have to overpay my plane, to overpay my stay... to overpay everything. And I have to meet italians everywhere all around the world...
Hi everybody,
I will be in Fortaleza (from Asuncion) at the beginning of September. Any recent reports about Fortal and the scene in general in this period?
Thank you for reporting
Chicob
Chicob
I am in Fortaleza right now.
This is high season over here and good-looking semi-pros are hard to come by. They are preferering Brazilian tourist over Foreigners. If you dont know much Potoguese, you will have a tough time here.
At this time, in my opinion, Massagens Classified newspaper ads are the best option. I hope this helps.
I'll be in Fortaleza from 8/30 to 9/6 anyone else going to be there?
Snooky...
Snooky,
I'll arrive in Fort 9/4, why don't we meet for a beer: a good appiontment could be at Mcdonalds of Beira Mar for example on friday 9/5 at 6 PM.
Let me know
Chicob
just got back from fortaleza after having a 6-day trip. if you want to make more sense of this report, please read my january 2003 report posted on this site. i simply don't want to repeat myself.
unexpectedly, i got some time off and had only 2 weeks to make reservations for the trip. i tried to use my frequent flier miles. called continental airlines and they could only take me to sao paulo for 35,000 miles. united air needed 50,000 miles and i was short by a few thousands. i tried other south american destinations but all the flights were full for the desired dates. with a broken heart, i called "niece" of bacc, and she offered a r/t e-ticket (nyc-fortal) for $561. i gladly accepted her offer. how could i let this opportunity slip away?
also, i emailed flatshop@truenet-ce.com.br and inquired about a one bedroom apartment at via venetto flat, with an atlantic ocean view. leila replied promptly and offered me one at 14th. floor for r$ 70 per day. i gladly accepted it. but after 2 email, she won't confirm my reservation. after 2 days, she replied and asked me to send her an email in portugese. meanwhile, i had already booked a one-bedroom flat at blue ocean flat (pria de iracema) for r$75 per night (including their fees) thru http://www.hdn.com.br . here is my long report.
if you need any specific info, please feel free to email me at jose425@hotmail.com with fortaleza in the subject.
to convert real v/s peso for this report purpose r$2.85 = us $1 or r$100 = u.s.$35.
thursday (august 14, 2003):
in the varig flight, my seat was right in the middle of a guy and a gal. both were americans. they were the best company, i ever had on any flight. all of us looked 10 years younger than our ages and all of us held respectable jobs. incidently, all of us were going to brazil for sex. we talked all the way and mostly about sex. it was an open conversation. when the girl found out that i was married, she said that she lost 65% of the respect. lol. she was upset that by the time she will arrive in fortaleza, i will be gone. we promised each other to be in contact through email.
our flight arrived in sao paulo on time. i got some us$ changed at the airport cambio.@ r$ 2.85 for 1$. took the varig direct flight to fortaleza and reached there at 1:30 p.m... took a taxi to blue ocean flat, only to find out that they did not have any rooms for me. they had a reservation for me at hotel classic. they sent me to this place with their own driver. hotel classic was a few blocks away from blue ocean flat, right next to the holiday inn. my room was at 9th. floor with a nice view of atlantic ocean. it had a queen size bed, hot water, a small living room, a small fridge, and two balconies. their free breakfast was also great.
within half an hour. i was off for what i came here for. looked in the classified section of "do diario", came downstairs, took a taxi and asked the driver to take me to monica e lidia. he called the telephone number that i provided him with (9124-1466 or 9942-4355), and got the directions. their apartment was in centro. (rua sena madueiro no 961, apartment 104). they were not that good looking. i just wanted to unload myself and agreed on their price of r$70 cada (each) for 3 hours. they tried anything to please me and kept on asking for everything. they were afraid that i will get offended by certain sexual acts. come on ladies, get real! i like anything and they went for it all, except they did not like anal and bisexual act. as per my request, they ordered beer for us and we had fun. they asked me if i was interested in forro. i sure said yes. they told me that the morena is a forro professor and if i would like to tag along with them. they said that saturday is great for clube do vaqueiro (parque do vaquiero catinho do ceu, about 30 km from centro. also, sunday is great for sitio siqueiro which is not too far. they told me to call them if i was interested and they will take me there just for fun and of course no charges for their time which is normal in brazil. had i had time, i would have had called them. they were fun, kept on laughing and gave me a royal treatment and an excellent time. came back to my room and took a brief rest.
in the evening, walked around and found out that not much changed here except this new place elos bar (next to el gaucho restaurant, and close to africa). this place had some obvious action but i was not interested in those girls. reached zip i bar at 11pm. it was full of tourists and not a single good looking girls was available. i picked this girl named carollyna or something. she was nice but could have used some dental work. bought her two red bulls and, at midnight, asked her to go to my hotel. she asked that if i would pay her r$80 and that she could stay with me until noon the next day. i had no problem with that.
i brought her back to my flat and we went right up. the receptionist just kept her id and i did not get frustrated with the whole process of registration, as they do in a hotel. i had already stocked the fridge with all sorts of drinks. she wanted champaign. she loved to kiss and be kissed. we made out in the living room, showered together, and went for more action in the bedroom. she was great in the bed but i was very tired and was not ready for another round. besides, her nipples were too long for my taste and i did not like that. at 2pm, i told her the if she would like to leave. she was getting the message anyway and she left with a smile on her face and r$s in her purse.
friday:
woke up briefly for the breakfast and then back to sleep until noon time. i felt very relaxed by then and wanted a massage. took a taxi and handed the phone number of anita massagem (223-9276) to the driver. it was a little far and the fare was r$9. this place was in a residential area (rua jose carndido # 394 monte castilo na rua do restaurente, caico da bezerra de menezil. there were 5 girls and i liked this 18 year old morena. her name was joyce and had no kids. their rates were r$40 for 1 hour in the casa. i asked for 2 hours at motel and they wanted r$60.
after paying the money to the casa, we took a taxi and off to chalex motel. her body was just superb. she did not like to kiss, otherwise everything else except anal was ok with her. i asked her for a massage after round one and she gave me a lame massage. she told me that casa will keep r$10 and the rest will be hers. i asked her to ditch the casa after a few days and bring her friend with her to go for movies, dinner and a 3-some later. she said that she would love to but have to have permission of the casa otherwise she will loose her job. the motel bill came up to r$40. gave joyce a r$10 tip just to see her reaction and she was happy with that. took a taxi, dropped her at her casa and came back to my room. she asked me if i could mail her the photos. i promised and i have already fulfilled my promise. if anyone of you ever get a chance to meet her, tell her that you are a friend of mike from new york and she will treat you better.
in the early evening hours, while having dinner to la marea restaurant steak house, two young and very cute girls were trying to convince patterns to come to their church thing. unsuccessful there, they saw a friendly face and came to me and started convincing me. i told them that i don't
speak much portuguese and told them ´tu que bonachia``, motioned my hands to my chest and clamped it by saying `delor el corasao, necessita boca-e-boca ressucioa. they got the message and did not get amused as much as a couple of pretty girls sipping soda. meanwhile some folks were going around drumming this loud samba. i gave them r$2 and asked them to drum next to the girls and that is what they did. girls were laughing and that is when their dates showed up and that was the end of this game.
it was11:30 pm by then and i left for zip i bar which was a few blocks away. the place was at its peak. i tried to speak to at least 5 girls but none was interested in me. a girl in her late 20´s came to me and asked for the time. since i never adjusted my watch for the local time, i wrote down the time on a piece of paper. she was like you are a brazilero, why don't you speak. i told her that i am from new york and pointed her to my nypd shirt. she told me that i am lying and kept on arguing. i told her that if i prove, would she give me r$20 and she agreed. i showed her my driving license and she immediately came up with the bet money. i refused but she insisted but i stayed firm. she asked me if i want any girl there including her. i said no. she was determined to hook me up with someone. she took me to a man and told me that he is on the game. she annoyed me for a good half an hour. oh well, i had to leave this place. walked a couple of blocks to café do mar and did not like anyone over there either.
took a cab to boite estudio tropical. lots and lots of girls and but most were un-doable. this woman danielle (22) came right over and sat next to me. i was not interested in her but as the time passed, we got along very well. asked her to go out with me to my hotel and she said it would cost me r$100. further, she asked me that if i would like to wait for this deborah soft show. i agreed. i had already seen debra´s photo on the posters that were posted all over the town.
the show started and boy oh boy, let me tell you.....she was a goddess. her slow seductive dance movements were mesmerizing. i was having hard time keeping my eyes off deborah. i asked danielle to take a few pictures of her and she took some. the show ended and as we were leaving, the security asked danielle to come to their office. i knew there was trouble ahead. after a few minutes, they came and asked for my camera. i gave it to them. they came back after good five minutes and asked me to step into the office and asked danielle to stay outside. deborah was very upset. mannnn, she was so ugly and old up close. (i suggest all of you to go see her show but do not attempt to see her that close, you will puke for sure). the bouncer was not listening to me and was asking me how to take out the film roll. he ripped the battery slot open and kept on asking. i told them that this is digital camera and needs batteries. now the batteries were not working and their frustration was at the peak. finally, they brought a new pack of batteries and asked me to get the roll out. now i decided to talk to deborah directly. showed her the photos and none of photos came any good. i apologized to her and told her that i did not know that i could not take pictures but that she is very pretty. she cooled down with the owner´s help and told me that it was ok. now, she apologized and gave me a customary kiss...ewwwwwwwww. she was the owner´s girl/wife. the owner and the bouncer apologized, over and over again, for being rude and came to say bye to me at the door. told me that if i decide to come again, they will waive the r$10 entrance fees. asked me that if i will marry danielle and waved me off. we took a cab to my hotel.
at the hotel, this time, the receptionist wanted her to fill out the forms and asked me for r$20. i did not argue. they did the same to me for the next four nights. i guess, only the first night was free. in the room, we took shower together. she was a tigress in the bed. she got rougher and rougher and so did i. she started spanking me real hard and i sure returned her in the same way. after an hour, her brutality was constantly on the rise and little jose junior was not happy with that. it was afraid of getting mauled and chewed. i even rammed her ass but she was determined to make it even rougher. after about an hour and a half in my room, it was almost 5:00 am. i gave her the money but she wanted more sex. i was drained but she insisted for one more round. we took another shower and i showed her to the door.
saturday:
i called liliane in the morning. i met her in january and had a great sex. she still remembered me. i asked her if she could meet me at around 6-7 pm for the dinner and for the fun later. she agreed. she called me an hour later and re-confirmed our meeting time and told me that she was excited to see me again. having a bird in hand, went to beirra mar beach and spent several hours there. as soon as i would see a nice looking young girl, i would go to her and ask her to take my photo and would try to converse with her. my charm did not work there. i had to delete about 20 photos of mine later that evening.
oh well........came back to my room in the late afternoon and rested. got ready for the meeting with liliane and kept on looking at my watch. did not want to call her to show her that i was desperate. finally, at 8pm, called her house. she said that she can not meet me that night and that she was sleeping. oh well.....here goes my happy mood! somehow, i did not get much upset and rested one more hour in my room.
at 10 pm, went out for dinner and at 11pm, it was time for zip i bar. met a girl named carla (25). she spoke a few words of english, divorced, and had a kid. she told me that she has 2 years of college in philosophy, and works at a flower shop (mon-fri). she was very intelligent and would behave in an educated way. we had lots of conversation with each other. she was nervous being at the bar but i calmed her down. later, she told me that her real name was not carla. i told her that my real name was not mike either. sex, with her, was sensuous and romantic, anything but mechanical. this girl was fun to be with and to talk with. something was telling me that this girl really liked me a lot. i liked this girl a lot too. carla asked me that she, along with her four friends (all girls), is going to pria de futura the next day and if i would like to tag along. i agreed with pleasure. we had sex several times that night and hardly slept much. in the morning, we had one more round and she left. she had to go see her kid. i told her that i wanna give some present to her kid and asked her to give me her purse. i discretely put some money (r$100) in her purse and returned her purse to her. she did not have any objection with that.
sunday:
carla arrived to my hotel at 1:30 pm, half hour later than she promised. she had a beat up car. it is customary in brazil to offer for the gasoline. i offered her the gas and she got happy with that. i put r$15 worth of gas and this money got a little less than two gallons of gas. then we went to pick her friends up. her friends were eating lunch at their house and they offered me to eat with them. i refused but each one of them would feed me a spoon full of baiao de dois. this is a typical brazilian food that is chicken, rice, and some beans. as a matter of fact, it was very good and tasty. after the lunch, we decided to go to the beach. now, the car won't start and we had to push a few times. it stopped at least five times before it finally took off. therefore, all along, we kept on chanting: no para, no para, no para no. once there, carla told me that she likes to be held tight and caressed.
once at the beach, the girls left us alone and we stayed on the beach for hours hugging, kissing and holding each other. it was dark by then and we left for a disco (opens only on sundays and only one there, the other one is a gay disco) by the beach (pria de futura) and there was a bahian group singing. the music was something like a combination of forro, lambada, and macarena. about 200 people were dancing including several 5-8 years old kids. this music was different but very sexy. i was in the middle and all those 5 girls were grinding against me, some against my knees, and some against my dick and butt. wish i did not have camera in one of my front pockets, and wallet and cigarette in my other front pocket. oh well...... we danced there for over two hours and left. girls bought their own beer and so far, i did not spend any money on them. i, only, bought 2 cocos, one for each one of us. then we headed for my hotel. all along, all of us were singing and having fun by driving along with other cars and teasing them. one girl asked me that if i would take them to pizza hut and that translated into r$200. carla yelled at them and said no. i told them that i was hungry too and invited them to habibi. this restaurant is next to diogo hotel, where i stayed in january. total cost for pizza, desert, and drinks for 6 of us was r$60 that i paid for. all along we had fun. it was more like a bunch of close college friends out on a saturday night.
she said that she has to go to her kid that night. i asked her if she would like to go out with me again. she promised to come to my hotel the next day after she ends her work at the flower shop. we were together for over 9 hours and carla, even while driving, just kept on looking at me and holding and caressing my hand as much as she could. she really loved to hug and hold me and be hugged and kissed. i had a great time with her and almost half of the time, she kept my dick erect. i was starving for sex but she left the sex part for the following nights.
i came to my room, took a quick shower, changed the cloth, and reached zip i bar at 11:30 pm. bought a beer and looked around. one girl, sipping caprinia, looked ok to me. without wasting any time, went to her and started talking to her. she was a great dancer. she told me that she is a professor of forro. looks like all the girls here are professors of forro. up close and with glasses on, i found out that she was not that good looking by any means. there were many other good looking girls around by then, but after drinking two caprinia, she was looking sexy. at 12:30 am, after sizing each other up, asked her to come to my hotel. no money was ever discussed. her name was mara. she told me that she is 27 years old, and has one 9 year old kid. ironically, she worked for a flower shop too. she was an animal in the bed. she was too much for me.
sex with her was more pain than pleasure. i felt as if she was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me. her movements were too fast. i was wondering what if she would break my dick into two pieces. luckily, jose junior survived her sexual assault too. after one round, i gave her r$80 but she won't leave. i told her that she was suppose to pay for the sex. we had another round and then, she wanted to sleep with me. she wanted to go to canoa quebrado with me and i wanted to get rid of her. after promising to call her the next day, i told her that i like to sleep alone. she reluctantly left at 4am. later, during my stay, she called me a few times to ask that if i would like to go out with her again. each time, i told her that i will call her the "next time".
monday:
as soon as i finished my breakfast, at 7:30 am, the canoa quebrado tour van arrived. it was a 3-hour ride each way. i used that time wisely to sleep and got much needed rest. trip to canoa quebrado was great. this place is something like cumbuco (see description in my previous january report) only bigger and better. the van dropped me at my hotel at 6:30pm and called carla to let her know that i was back. she said she was working and she will be right there. for brazilian, 8 means 10 and here she was. our pre-arranged time was at 8:30 and she wanted to come at 7. not bad at all. at 7, front desk called me that carla was there. i asked them to send her upstairs. i opened up the door and here she was in florist uniform, looking so cute, and was there to drop me a flower. i took her downstairs to say bye. she had me meet the flower delivery truck driver. she told me that she will come back by 9 pm and, after a few hugs and kisses on the cheek, left. the folks at the reception were happy for me.
carla came to my hotel at 9:10pm, wearing a nice dress. we went to drago do mar. it is a cultural center that has, among others, a museum and a planetarian. we ate there and came to my hotel at 11. all night, it was like two lovers meet after a long time. without me asking for anal, she tried hard to insert my dick in her ass but it did not work. after a few tries, both of us gave up. we hardly slept that night. i asked her to call her work and tell them that she was sick but she told me that she could not do that. at 7am, she told me that she had to leave for work. she asked me that if she could see me again that night. i felt uneasy by giving her any money. i sure wanted the same and agreed. did not give her any money for this night and she did not ask either. we definitely had some sort of connection. she never said that she loved me. rather, she kept on saying in english that she likes me. good enough for me. i would tell the same. she had this nice habit of screaming "oh mike, oh mike" while having sex and i liked that.
tuesday:
went to mercado central for shopping and came to my room at 2 pm. found a telephone message from carla. i called her back and she told me that she was on her way to my hotel to pick my up. i agreed and she was there in 15 minutes. this time, she borrowed her coworker's car. this car was not in a better shape either. she was in the work uniform. she had forgotten her earing last night and asked me that if i found them. i gave her those earing along with a chinese neckless and earing set that i bought earlier that day (r$32). i told her that it was inexpensive but would look great on her. she said that it is the feeling that matters. she was very happy for that and wore it right away. we hugged and kissed for 15 minutes and then decided to go to the movies. she took me to iguatemi shopping center where we saw the movies. i waited for her to show me stuff that she would like me to buy for her but she did not.
it was 6 pm, and she told me that she is getting very late and had to return to her work. we went to her work and she introduced me to all of her coworkers. they showed me their huge freezer that had all sorts of flowers flown from all parts of the country. after half an hour we, along with her girl friend and the guy she borrowed the car, left. first, carla dropped the car owner who lives in the favela right behind the southern end of ave: abolicao. we spent half an hour at her friend's house and left to drop her girl friend. i offered to buy dinner for them but the other girl refused. after dropping her off, i asked her if she would like to eat churrascaria. she said that she sure would and know a great place. she took me to fogao a lenha restaurant (av. bezerra de menezes, 1966 a - sao gerardo). this restaurant was near boite estodio tropical. food was good and cost me r$26 for two including service charges. i think that is the advantage of having a local pick the restaurant. we came back to my hotel, drank a bottle of white wine and enjoyed each other as much as we could. we stood in the balcony, watched people walking by, and had sex there. initially, we were concerned that people will see us making out but as the emotions flared up, we did not care for the world. we had a great round of sex in the balcony. i came all over her face but she did not swallow.
another shower and another round. this time she wanted anal sex. we tried it but it won't work. i strongly assume that she is not much experienced (even could be virgin anally, though she disagreed) in this area but just wanted to appease me. frustrated, she asked me to use some lubricant. i somehow managed to get my dick in. but after a couple of minutes of pumping, the condom broke. i gave up the idea. she did not know how to use her pussy and anal muscles either. she was not an expert in sex by any means but she was a brazilian. however, i had a lot of fun and the sex was like a gfe. that is what takes me to brazil.
both of us did not sleep much that night. it was such a romantic night and none was us wanted this night to end. however, the wine helped us sleep for a couple of hours. both of us wanted to stay strong but, at times, we lost it. both of us knew that this would be our last night together. it has happened to me several times before. i know this won't be the last time either.
i asked her if she could take a few hours off from her work and drop me off. she was holding her feelings real hard and said that she could not do so. she was leaving early in the morning real upset. i took her purse and put us$100 and gave her the purse back. she wanted me to promise that i will be back after 4 months. i told her that i won't promise but i may come back. i called her back the next day before leaving for the airport and she was kind of cold on the phone. the flights were on-time and i reached back home safely.
conclusion:
i had no problem using my atm card at the bank next to hotel diogo. however, the maximum permissible withdrawal amount was r$600. my total expenses excluding airfare, hotel rental, and personal gifts were us$ 650 for 6 days. it was a busy season there. lots of tourists there both brazilian and european. at any given moment, girls were outnumbered 1.5:1 in any bar. however, pretty girls were 1 to 5 men. as soon as a cute girl would walk in, several young and handsome guys will go talk to her and would pick her up before i could even think of approaching the girl. on several occasions, good looking girls in zip i bar simply ignored my hello and did not even want to talk to me. i knew that those girls had better options on hand.
several people told me that fortaleza is empty during the months of january, february, and march. in the future, if i go there, i will go during those months.
folks, it pays to write a trip report. please do it in detail with factual information and lots of fellow mongers will get a big help out of it. one day, it may be you who may get benefitted in-return. i know i did from my previous report.
Hello Jose,
Yes Fortaleza sounds very bad with young guys outnumbering good looking garotas and filled with tourists. Maybe it is because it is August, I hope so.
One thing I have to wonder if the quality of garotas there, as I saw your pictures and I do not want to offend but did not find any of them attractive or doable at all. I do not think I would do them if they paid me. So I wonder if there are attractive girls at all there who are putas in Fortaleza or if they are all ugly, or at least majority of them are ugly.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RioNut
[i]Hello Jose,
One thing I have to wonder if the quality of garotas there, as I saw your pictures and I do not want to offend but did not find any of them attractive or doable at all. I do not think I would do them if they paid me. So I wonder if there are attractive girls at all there who are putas in Fortaleza or if they are all ugly, or at least majority of them are ugly.
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I agree with you. I have been to other cities in Brazil and found the quality much better. As I said, I will not go there again in August. I guess you get what you pay for. Besides, with my limited Portoguese, I had a hard time finding any half way decent looking girl.
In general, Rio and Sao Paulo girls are way better looking. Oh, BTW, are you Asian? I was born in South East Asia.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RioNut
[i]Memek,
How good looking were the non-pros generally, and did you find that they run away from foreign guys?
How far away are the regular clubs from Iracema, and how filled with foreigners and Italians does Fortaleza get?
Thanks. [/i][/QUOTE]Sorry RioNut, for my late reply
As in all populations, some places attract lots of beatiful girls, some don't. But if I tell you the places I'm talking about are filled with over 10.000 people, there's bound to be some beautiful girl there.
The girls in these places can be either very interested in foreigners, or despise them, so yes, you'll meet girls there that run away at the sight of you, but, luckily, not all of them do that.
Distance is around 10 to 20 km from Iracema. I didn't see many foreigners there, only some die-hard immigrants, but this can change rapidly, as I'm posting this, and because Fortaleza is rapidly becoming a popular destination.
Anyways, I'll give you 1 example, as information is precious, and I don't want these places flooded with foreigners. About 10 km north of Iracema you'll find the 'Parque do Vacquero'. Go there on a friday night and be surprised. But, as I said earlier, you HAVE TO speak Portuguese. People might have heard of this place already, or might even have been there, as I saw some flyers on Iracema promoting bus tours to this place.
My experience there was unforgettable. Just 5 minutes after entering the place, I saw this gorgeous small girl, dancing on the table. I went down towards her, and before I knew it I was kissing her, in a way only Brazilians can kiss. Etc, etc, etc.
Have fun
Memek
@Memek
I was in this Clube de Vacquero, it's between Cumbuco and Iracema. It's true there are some good looking girls but the most are very young most probably under 18 years old. But in general the average girls in Fortaleza are not good looking. See also my reports from 10.05.02 and 09.27.02. You may find some good looking girls at the big shopping centers, but that high class girls or middle class girls. It's not unimpossible to get laid with them, but in this case you need time, pick up skills and you should looks good, too.
@Rio Nut
The pros in Frorta are mostly really ugly and yes also very obtrusive. Many guy with no pick up skills may end with them into their bed and maybe they are happy with them, but I prefer to f*** with light in the room and then a good looking girl is better :-). There are some good looking girls in the scene, but even in the low season they always are surrounded by customers. Good time to visit Fortaleza is from February to August and from middle of September until middle of October. At August Fortaleza is packed with Italians, because at this time whole Italy is on vacation. Also, after middle of October when the tourist season in Italy is finish all the Italians whose work in the tourist sector in Italy start their vacations and go to Brasil, Thailand, East Europe and other monger places.
@Jose Marcia
Thank you for your report, I have enjoyed to read them and it's good that you had such a plenty time there. If I should be honest I also found that girls on your photos not very pretty, but you had fun with them, that is most important.
@DG69
I've heard about this 'Clube do Vacquero', which is not the same place as I'm talking about, although the names are partly the same. Anyway, from the sound of it, I think the places are more or less the same. And it is true, a lot of very young girls are there, but there are plenty of girls in the age of 20-30 too. And whether they are good looking, that's a matter of taste. I can find my dream girl there, although I have to admit, that 99 % of the girls doesn't come in my 'dream girl' range. But 1 out of a 100 is an OK score, comparing it to other places on this earth.
Greetz,
Memek
I saw your pics and posting to WSG. I was very interested in Joyce. She's the type of girl I'mlooking for, very cute indeed. Were there many girlslike Joyce (age + looks)? I'm thinking of taking a 2 week vacation next winter in Fortaleza and wonder how much a long time with Joyce would cost. How much was it for all night? Any more info about Joyce? I don't know Portugese, so how much of a problem will that be?
Ciao,
Larry
Hi Larry,
Thanks for the kind words. However, please don't ask general questions through back channel.
I asked Joyce if she was available in the same way as you asked. I also asked her if she could ditch the brothel. She said that she could not. The agreement has to come though the brothel. I would suggest as follows:
If you go to her place, take her out for a couple of hours. If you get connected, bring her back to brothel and asked the owner. They are open 24/7 and she was available 24/7. My suggestion is to take her out for the whole night and it should not cost you over R$250. If they like you, they may ask for as little as R$150 for all night.
Yes, there were like 7 gals at that place then. Joyce was the most appealing to me that was avaiblable at that time.
As far as the language is concerned, I do not know much Portugese and that is a problem. The result is apparent if you look at the quality of the girls, during my current trip, I was with. Please look at the current availability of hookers and the prices.
http://diariodonordeste.globo.com/classif/consultando.asp?Item=P1209
I am surprised that the asking price is even as much as R$300 for a couple of hours. I will not go there again during the high season.
Ciao,
Jose
After a few days in Rio, me and my buddy flew to Fortaleza for a little quieter place. Its a town of good beaches and food (the langosta, shrimp and fish are great) and frieendly people many of them from Portugal.
As far as the nightlife is concerned it seems to be concentrated in the Iracema district, with alot of nightclubs bunched within a square block of each other. To name a few: there's Dom Angelo, African, Desigual, Zipi, Europa, Holanda etc.
They're filledwith young girls mostly 18-19 year-olds. Many are too shy to even approach the guys, let alone talk about sex and money. The guys have to do all the initiating. It was a big turn-off to me.
But we did find some street action in El Centro at Praca dos Martires on Rue Dr. Joao Maraira, close to the fort. The girls hang around a couple of hotels and snack bars. There were a couple of cute and friendly ones among some dogs. The prices for the girls were around R20 + R5 for the room. You get about a 1/2 hr. of time. We had alot of fun talking to the girls in the snack bar after we had sex. The praca can be dangerous at night.
We got a good massage at a massagem at Rua Dr. Atualpa Barbosa Lima 603, apt 102, close to the Ibis Hotel. The massage was R50 + R20 for sex. 3 friendly girls wre working there. We got about an hour of service.
Take care
Hi all, I am in Fortaleza now, updating on a couple of new things.
Anyone coming for the first time should go straight to the oldest page of the thread, for all the orientation you need. The long post from tomb is especially comprehensive and flat out good.
The hot spot right now is Dom Angelo, which is at ground zero of the Iracema strip on the same corner as Cafe del Mar. It is probably the most classy looking of the clubs (think Ikea decor and lots of space). Big downstairs section with live forro on stage, tables for eats. Upstairs a large lounge with pool table, joining on to a separate discotheque room. Probably about 120 girls in here on the night I went. Entrance is 10 reais, free before 23h30 for guys. Drinks from about 4 to 8 reais.
Desigual was not quite what it used to be, according to various people. Then suddenly last night was the opening of the new Desigual which is a few doors down from Cafe del Mar walking towards Africas. Downstairs is a dancefloor area and bar, upstairs is karaoke and sandwich bar, which was not very full later on in the night. This place was pretty OK, with lots of people coming in and out to check it out. I would say, not as good as Dom Angelo though.
Zipi Bar is still busy and gets going from around 23h00.
There are enough tourists around to make sure that all the hot girls get taken, but its still reasonable.
One unhappy memory from my time in Fortaleza. A few days into my trip I discovered some kind of red spot and rash, right where you dont want it to appear. It all turned out to only be some kind of yeast or fungus, and using a cream for a few days cleans it right up. Still, makes you think twice.
So guys, enjoy the life but also take care!
I'll be in Fortaleza from 6 oct to 18 oct: Anyone else there?
Second time for me in Fort.
The last time i spent lot of time in the Zipi bar and Cafe du Mar.
Very happy that new disco/bar are coming.
Ciao
hotsam:
I should be there in and around that time. Let's talk a little more about it closer to the time. Looking forward to it.
JW
PRELIMANRY FORTALEZA SHOUT-OUT!
I've been here for a day-and-a-half, now, and this place if fucking going off bigtime! It's out of hand. Last night, Thursady, in that half-block run of the street where all those bars/clubs are (in Iracema) there must have been about 700 girls to choose from. At least.
Prices are great, too. I got this Gisele look-alike with an Eastern--European-porno sized natural rack (that's BIG if you don't know) and her roomate (a solid 7.5) for 150R at their apartment (!!). Crazy. The girls in that menage-a-trois were the third and fourth of the day. I got out for about 300R for 4 girls.
Are any other of you sportsmen here right now? We need to get together and do some serious phucking. I should be here through Tues. Drop me an email.
Peace out,
JW (jwadd88@yahoo.com)
O.k. -- maybe not 700. But lots. Hundreds -- and really cute, too. As for the high season -- high like Everest.
JW
FORTALEZA UPDATE:
I`ve attached my old report to the bottom of this one. Not much has changed over the last two years, so this update should be comparatively short.
The place to go -- unequivocally -- is Iracema. This is the strip of beach a little to the south of the developed strip to the north (Beira Mar). All the discos/clubs/venues seems to congregate here. While there are other boites around town, I never had occasion or reason to go to them.
The Iracema scene concentrates around disco Don Angelo. Across the street is club Europa, and down a little is the newly-moved Desigual.
None of the places in this block have facilities. Take the girls either to the nearby 30R/3hours sex-motel Village, to the pousada Europa (20R) in Beira Mar, back to your hotel, or to any of the other (only) lower end pousadasmotels in the area.
Some of these places, also , do have an entrance fee (Club Europa, Don Angelo), varying from 5-10R. Drink prices are a little higher than average, but not too high.
On any given night Thurs.-Sat., the girls flock here by the hundreds. What really consistantly surprised my about Fortaleza was just how cute, cheap and attitude-free most of these girls were. Lotsa 7s and 8s, and many 9s can be found in this pussy-herd.
Prices are within the 100-150R range, depending on the girl, the day and the time of night. Everything is (of course) negotiable.
The places gets going every night of the week. It`s slower, but still decent, on Sun. and Mon., picking up steam the further advanced the week gets.
Daytime action primarily (as far as I could tell) happens around Beira Mar. The girls (often the same ones you saw the night previous in Iracema) seem to congregate around the beach-bars in front of MacDonalds. Can`t miss it.
That`s it. Pretty simple. One thing -- sometimes one place is happening over another on a given night. Desigual, also, seemed to be the place everyone went to for the last hour (sometimes). Haha. Wish I could be definitive. Just walk around.
ONE WORD OF CAUTION:
While this scene is happening and by-and-large bullshit-free, there were enough girls scamming here to make it worth commenting on. No big deal -- but expect that the classic scams to be in effect.
One girl pointed out a friend of her`s who is notorious for drugging gringos.
Another friend (a gringo) got ripped off by the old, pay-first then emergency (pre-arranged) phone call from friend who then shows up with taxi and boyfriend, scam. Can you believe this same shark showed up the next night, with another gringo on her arm? The fucking temerity.
And finally, some (of the barfly-ish) girls will latch on to you and not let you go. If you disengage yourself at one place, go to another and start up a conversation with another girl, the first will step right the fuck over to you and start talkingtalkingtalking -- ruining your mack.
Most of these pariahs, though, hang out at the bar at the end of the non-beach-side of the street with the red chairs. Can`t miss it.
Incidentally, this is where the after-hours party starts up when the other venues (sadly) close at 3 or 4, depending on the night.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
P.S. I found the Zipi Bar to be dead at all times of day or night (see below).
FORTALEZA:
Fortaleza has sort of a confusing scene. It starts at about 9pm, goes 'til dawn, and operates on bar-hop principle. I.e., girls at one place at one time may show up at another later that night.
Soooo, comments such as "this place had X amount of girls, and they were X attractive" don't work as well here as they do in other cities in Brazil.
O.k. -- downtown, starting about 9pm, there are basically two venues: one, a boite (sex-club) and two, an open-terrace bar for working-girls.
The boite is across the street from the large disco "Pirata" (sorry, can't remember its name), and the bar is named "Vip", a few streets away. This area is the large bar-restaurant district on the southern end of the beach.
The boite was lame -- about 10 girls. Vip is o.k., about 30 women, but none very good looking. Prices quoted were about 100 reals. Neither provided rooms.
Boite "Studio Tropical" is another boite way out of town. It's about 25 minutes via cab heading inland. I don't think it's worth the trip. The night I was there it featured about 15 very unexceptional women, the finest of which (and the only one I talked to) asked for 200 reals. No beds on site; must go to a motel.
On the other end of the beach is another small boite: "Sunset." It, as the other two, is lame and not worth your time. 5-7 below average women.
But don't despair...
The main beach promenade, and the large street about one block behind it, are teeming with free-lance girls. Maybe 50-75 on any given night. Many are really good looking. Prices started at about 50 reals. There are many pousadas/quick-time motels in the area.
The best concentration for these girls, in my opinion, were the streets around Sunset boite.
I know many of you avoid street-walkers. This is problematic in Fortaleza -- for many of the girls you see walking the streets in the evening show up at the final meeting-place (the disco I will describe below) at 1:30-2 a.m.
This disco is "Desigual", and is the place where most girls end up at the end of the evening. Indeed, most boites close at midnight, as they know their girls will be taking off to this disco then.
Desigual is a good, packed, low-scale disco on the order of "Help" in Rio. On any given night there're about 150 women -- most (as always) unattractive, but there always seems to be enough honeys to go around.
It's about 10 reals for the entrance, and most girls ask somewhere between 150-200 reals. There are no beds/rooms here, so you must leave with them and go to your hotel (or a sex-motel).
Incidentally, there are a few really big discos that some taxi driver might try to (innocently) convince you are sex-discos, etc. There names are "Muccalippi," "Pirata" and "Africa." As far as I could tell, there are no working girls here.
Pirata, though, might be a good place to orient yourself, as there is a boite across the street, Desigual down the road toward the hotels off the beach, and many free-lancers walking around or sitting in the numerous cafes here.
Lastly, there's a large disco on the high bluff overlooking Fortaleza. The area is called "Mirante," and it's the only disco there. It's a nice place to hang out, and I was assured by my taxi driver that there're working girls here. I didn't go in -- but it looked like it had potential. Give it a try (Max) and tell me.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
Canoa Quebrada
This is the beach resort one and a half hour's drive from Fortaleza. I was there a couple of years ago, only stayed a few days though. Nice place to enjoy the beach, but not many girls, four or five that looked unengaged, at most. Some hippie action, plenty of dope around, very hazardous because it's a small place where people are easily located and the Feds like fishing there to net strangers.
I stayed at Miguel's and he himself agreed that Canoa is not a place to pick up girls. In fact, if you want to go there, bring your own girls from Fortaleza or elsewhere, and avoid week-ends or bank holidays because Brazilians congregate there in droves for short trips.
Regarding the Ceará and maybe other places to the North, the quality of girls is not what you get down South. I was told by a Brazil connoisseur that you should not cross an East-West line that goes through Recife if you want to find girls whose beauty is representative of Brazilian womanhood.
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Hello Folks,
On the 5th of November I will arrive in Fortaleza and will stay there for 1 Month.
My App is Vila Costeira at the Beira Mar (12th floor).
Who wants to hook up with me (The first beer is mine).
Please send a private message via the WSG Forum's Private Message system.
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WARNING: DO NOT STAY AT "HOTEL VILLAMARIS" when in Fortaleza.
One of the staff members (presumably the maid or the night manager) got the key to my safe, wrote down my credit card numbers, and made DUPLICATE FUCKING COPIES of them.
This/these fucks have been running around town for the last few days racking up about 3000USD in charges on my cards. Fraud protection will hopefully take care of it -- but I've had to cancel the cards and I'm not sure I'll be able to get replacements. Sigh. I still have 22 days left in my trip.
I've traveled/sported through almost 40 countries and have never had a single money problem in the past. I guess fate was saving up for a big one.
JW
JW, i'm really sorry to hear about that : i strongly hope that you'll be able to finish your trip in good conditions ...
Take care
Pro
Thanks, man. Are you going to be in Sao Paulo anytime soon?
JW
JW, i will not be soon in Sao Paulo, arriving on 26 December ... to experience Love Story on New Year's Eve !! :)
Cheers
Pro
Report - 2 weeks in Fortaleza
hotel Casa de Praia - Iracema - very good, next to nightlife, no problem with girls
beach - the last time most of "barracas" in beira mar wr closed.
Praia do futuro is better. Atlantis is very good but working girls
cannot go inside (only with man)
nightlife: All bar and discos are in Iracema area - Zippy bar free entrance - Cafe' du mar 6 rs with free drink - Dom Angelo 10rs no free drink - Disegual free - Europa 5rs (not sure)
My opinion: walk around the free bar until 1am and then go to
Don Angelo (2 floor - disco) - I think it's a very funny place and many times i stayed inside until 4 am dancing with girls, drinking and....
Since 2002 prices increased about 15% in reais (and more the
exchange...)
Many girls ask for 150, but never pay more then 100 (range is 50-100)
Hotsam, in comparison to your trip last year, do you thing things are better or worst in terms of mongering action?
I have heard the local mayor is beggining a crackdown on prostitution, and that might be the reason all those barracks are closed in Beira-Mar.
Do you think Fortaleza is still a highly recommended place to mongering activities?
Thanks in advance
Montecristo
I was in Fortaleza 2 days ago, and indeed most barracka's on Beira-Mar are closed now, because of this crackdown. The two barracka's across the street from McDonalds are still open though, most girls go there after a day at the beach.
On Praia do Futuro, since the girls aren't allowed to go to Atlantiz now solo, they all go to the barracka next door, called "Coco Beach".
I can comparise Fortal only to Natal, and i think Fortal is better.
No problem with girls, the number of them is more higher than the last year, and i enjoy the new discos and bars. This year i think nightlife is better than the last.
Only one problem: too many tourists for a low season!!!!!
Someone tell me about last august: 15.000 tourists (9000 italians) - 1500 girls!!!!!!
bye
To Salomon69
I will be leaving for Brazil November 6 and will be there for four weeks. I plan to spend the 3rd week in Fortaleza, about November 21 to November 26, give or take a day. Would be great to get together with you for a beer or do some sightseeing. You can contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.
Anyone else in Fortaleza at that time can also contact me.
Also, I will be in Salvador about November 26 to December 2, and Rio the nites of December 2 and 3, if anyone is there at that time and wants to get together.
Dear all,
Reading the posts seems to me that picking up girls who are not pro is not a problem in Fortaleza. Is it correct? Sorry, if this question looks like a naive one to veterans, but I never was in the country and there is a real chance for me to travel over there next Frebuary. So I need a little help to answer to my question from some friend more expert than I am.
Thanks a lot.
All the best.
Pier61
Ola folks,
I have been here for 4 days now and it´s toppie here a lot of garotas and the food is excellent and cheap . Till now I didn´t need to go to bars liuke zip ibar (99% of them are ugly and pro I have heard from my taxidriver) If you are young and have the beauty like me you can get garotas everywhere , till now I have had 6 of them in 4 days and all of them are 9-10 , yes believe me they are everywhere on the street shops I just walk alone and they can see I am a foreinger and they ask me for phonenumber and they call me , it´s unbelieveble but it´s true.
For anyone who will visit For soon you can pm me and we can go take some drinks at the praia de futuro.
Tchau,
Michael
Salomon69 (and other guys that went there recently).
What about safety in the streets ?
Have been hearing constantly how safe things are in Fortaleza, but recent news (with the kidnapping of a Portuguese diplomat, and assassination of a teenager this weekend both situations connected with ATM cards), have created me some doubts.
What has been you general feeling ?
I see reports that people stay in the discos and bares until 3, 4 am, and i wonder if it is so simple to get a cab to go home (or eventually reach our rented car.
Thanks in advance
Henry: Today I have talked with Adrina ( she works for Flatshop) about you ... If you call her (you can find her number and link in the last post ) you say that Michael has introduced me than you will be helped quickly ( I have asked my Vila Costeira flat ) they have an apartment free from 17th Nov so you can call them it´s vila costeira av belra mar 3620 (By the way Adrina looks very sweet and I have kissed her 3 times, just to thanks her for giving me the best apartment with see sight ~etc )
Monto: That can happen everywhere dont hesitate Fortaleza is very safe in my opinion till now
Yesterday night I was in Domingo, a top night with a lot of garotas many of them are under 5 but I didn´t have time for them I only talked with 9-10 or 10+ there were maybe 4-7 of them. I think I was the most lucky or handsome guy that night all of the 9-10 are only interested in me :) all the other guys only look .
Henry I have given you my nr in pm message you can call me when you are in Fortaleza and taxicabs are very safe and cheap a trip from airport to beira mar is 15 R$
See you in For guys
I don't remember any safety issues during the time I was in Fortaleza.
You can find an enormous choice of hotels just 2 or 3 blocks from the Iracema bars. Remember to ask for their best room rate at any hotel, they will probably give you a discount immediately.
The streets in Praia de Iracema felt safe to walk at any time of day or night.
Of course I cannot guarantee you it's 100% safe. There are a few easy precautions you should take. But this is the same all over Brazil.
Guys,
Is Forteleza dead, no new reports, would like to go there 1st week of January6-10, any one headed to Forteleza, please send me a PM. I'll be in Rio from Dec.29th till Jan 6th for the new Year.
GJ
Some Fortaleza photos from this July will show up when administrator pass them.
Just returned from Fortaleza.
Things are the same as previous reports.
The place to go is definitly DOM ANGELO, you my whish to visit the other bars like, Desigual, Africa, Cafe Del mar, but if you haven't found the right girl, then and before 2.30 am, you should enter Dom Angelo where you will find at least 100 available girls.
Pros of course.
The amateurs can easily be found but then things won't be so simple (cheap).
In terms of lodging, flatshop is really the place to go, they have a lot of flats which are the most suitable option for mongering activities. They are also very cheap (12-15 Euros).
Security was a pleasant surprise, a lot of cops in turistic zones, so nothing to be afraid of.
The most disapoiting thing was the average quality of the girls, perhaps in south things are better.
Overall a nice experience, R $ is really cheap against the Euro these days, even guys whith limited budget will feel like kings.
Last thing, despite the fact they have reasonable quality you should avoid the Iracema Restaurants, because they are terribly overpriced. They are cheap, but if you look for other options you will see some of them are charging the double of other similar restaurants.Perhaps you must pay a fee for dinning in the center of action
I am curious how overrun with tourists from Europe Fortaleza is, and how the normal girls compare to the rest of the Northeast?
I like hookers, but only good looking ones. So I was thinking of trying my luck with the non-hookers, but it sounds like this will be difficult because foreign men have such a bad image in Fortaleza.
Also, do almost all tourists stay in Iracema, and is it like Rio in that only sex tourists and hookers stay there, and no normal people will go there?
You can find the hookers in 2 places (there of course more zones, its a 2 million people city). In the afternoon in Fututo beach, and at night in the Iracema zone (bars and restaurants).
If in the beach you can find "common people" at night in Iracema, its really more difficult, despite the fact there are some bars (Lupus, Pirata) that are not connected with prostitution.
For common girls, the shoppings are a good option (Iguatemi, Aldeota). There is also another important zone which is the area between Iracema and Beira mar, where dozens of people go for walking and running, you will find pro´s and also common girls, but you must be well fitted start a conversation since most people is running!
Re the quality of garotas in the Iracema bars in Fortaleza. I spent 9 days in November in Fortaleza and found the quality to be pretty good. Many 7s and 8s, some 9s. I expected worse, after reading all the negative stuff on this website. But I think I figured it out. A number of these girls in Iracema bars are darker skinned, and that is probably why they are being knocked by the posters (although there are many light skinned goratas there also).
Similarly, posters were knocking the garotas at Bamboo club in Recife but praising the garotas at Sampa Club in Recife. I went to both and I think the ones at Bamboo were underrated and the ones at Sampa were overrated. And I think this also had to do with skin color, since many of the Bamboo garotas were darker and the Sampa garotas were all light skinned bleached blonds. I have nothing against that, but the ones at Sampa were generally all 7s. I saw some really hot light skinned bleached blonds in Fortaleza. So please take these judgments on the looks of these girls with a grain of salt.
Hello,
I'm from the Netherlands and I'm going in april to Fortaleza for the first time.
Are there any other guys who are going in that period? We might go 'haunting' together and drink some beers
I'm 25 years and for more info just send me a message.
Oh, and I'm also looking for nice pics of girls of Fortaleza. Who can send me some of their private collection? ;)
Greetings,
Bert
About Henry R comment, i reafirm what i said about the average of Fortaleza girls being low.
I also found many 7's 8's and some 9's in the Iracema zone, the problem is that there were more than 100 girls in a disco a just some very few looked good.
Obviously you can find stunners, but i think in other places in Brazil (or in the world), it will be easier to find them.
My comment really hadn't anything to do with color skin, its just my humble opinion.
I agree with Montecristo the 'average' of fortaleza girls being low.
The non pro in the pirata bar (rate 7) will act/look like she is a 9. IMHO fortaleza is a good place for non pro but you have to know where to look- Iguatemi mall is a good place to hook up with non pro - though 'basic' portuguese is necessary, you'll be surprised that some of them can speak english.
After 2 weeks in Fortaleza in October, i travelled in Asia, from
Bangkok to Ho Chi Min City (Vietnam) in 3 weeks (most of the time in Cambogia).
Now i feel "saudade" but not for Cambogia.....
Has anyone ever been in Fortaleza over the Christmas/New Year period? What's it like? Is there still a lot going on or are the chicks at home with their families? I suppose it won't be as hectic as Rio but is it worth going in that period?
Thanks,
I was in Fortaleza last November. A lot of beauties, especially from 11.00 pm in Iracema in the bars like Bikini Bar and Europa Bar. Later everybody goes to Dom Angelo (a disco). If you can't find a knocker for R$80 or even less, there is something wrong with you. Most hotels do not allow "non residents", so I suggest to rent an appartment. If you need any advice, drop me a line.
Tip: at night, always take a taxi or motorcycle taxi. Don't go wondering the streets by yourself, you have a great chance of being mugged.
Hi guys,
I'm a new member and I can report my experience in Fortaleza.
I was there in last august and in last New Year's Eve. The better place were we have to go to meet pro is really Dom Angelo, that now has a glass roof too, so it's possible to go in wet season too. Other places, like New Desigual, Cafè do Mar or Africa, offer a quality of girls very worse. Before going to Dom Angelo, I suggest to go to Zipi bar, Europa or Desigual, but sometimes it's difficult to find a very cute girl, IMHO. I agree with Dutchie in safety; the brasilian boys became very persistent asking for some tip or money around discos, and around petrol pump in Iracema you can be mugged if ypu're alone, so be careful boys!
Range or price of girls is almost the same the we can read in other reports, it depends on what you're looking for.
It's difficult (but on impossible) to find non-pro in Iracema; if you prefere, don't believe in posts like Solomon69 (that I felt absolutely incredible: nodody wrote stories like him, so you can undestand who's lying.); you have to speak some Portuguese and go to clubs like Amazen47 (near Dragon do Mar), PirataBar, or go in Aldeota during the day, hand above all have a good luck.
Happy hunting.
Fortaleza,
Personally I think Iracema lost its charm. So many places along the waterfront are closed. Standing there empty and dark.
Two blocks inland it´s quite convenient to find so many pro´s at one place. Café del Mar, Desigual, Europa Bar, Bikini Bar and Kapital. Zipi Bar and Africa just nearby.
Here you can enjoy an over-priced beer and get hassled by beggars and people selling crap. Kapital is definitely the best place to pick up a pro. They ask for about 80 reais.
I tried to find some nice brothels without succes. Up in Aldeota there are several small casas, none worth mentioning. If you want to experience a really ugly brothel, head to the brothel in front of Croco-beach, in Praia do Futuro. 30 minutes cost only 20 reais, including the room. About 20 girls working. Several of them are locked inside their rooms, just like a prison. The standard on the girls are extremely low. Worth a visit just for the experience.
If you like forró you will have a great time at Clube do Vaqueiro (wednesday and saturday), Parque do Vaqueiro (fridays) or Sítio Siqueira Clube (sundays). Great music, lots of nice women (some pro´s as well) and easy to pick up girls.
In the Iracema-area you find nice non-pro´s at the bars at Dragao do Mar, Armazen 47, Orbita and Mucuripe. On fridays Mucuripe is crowded with beautiful girls. On saturdays there are less people and a lower standard on the girls, although the saturdays-girls are much easier to pick up.
In Fortaleza there are a lot of girls that fit the description cabeca quadrada sem pescoso. But surely you´ll also find lots of beautiful women.
Cheers
Can anyone provide me with some solid information on visiting Fortaleza around the end of May, or beginning of June.
I just got back from Rio de Janeiro on 2 nights ago, and although it was FIRST trip to Brazil, it was VERY ENJOYABLE one.
Mongering was prestine, although, many of the most beautiful morena women I met in Rio, were from either Fortaleza or Recife..
I'm planning on going to Fortaleza first, because the things I have read about Recife weren't too promising, both here on this forum, and on another forum written by people living IN Recife currently.
Has anyone been to Recife in the past 30-60 days, and can anyone tell me what the mongering is like during the month of May. Is that the rainy month? Is it cold there? Do the girls hibernate.
All information would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Thanks fellow mongerers.
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I have been in Fortaleza (again) since Sunday. The scene is still the same as last November.
I stay in a small pousada on Praia do Foturo. As I am the only paying guest, they are quite happy with me. It is right across the street from the beach and it s a very quiet neighbourhood. Late at night you should be careful, so I always take a taxi, though the bus system works fine for me during the day.
At Praia do Mereiles it is easy to pick up girls. On Av. Beira Mar coming out of McDonald´s, go to the left (the beach is on your right). In the beach joints (barraca´s) you will find them.
From about 7pm till midnight you will find lots of pro´s sitting on the street side of these barraca´s or simply walking up and down that section of Av. Beira Mar.
I will check out Praia de Iracema later and report on that.
Iracema is still the place to be at night. I recommend Zippi Bar (near the petrol station), no entrance fee, reasonable prices and lots of girls. Also the Bikini beach bar above the Europa Bar has no entrance fee but European prices. The owner is Dutch. Plenty gorgeous girls.
You can also stay at 1 place, because the girls tend to move from bar to bar. From about midnight everybody still goes to the Kapital disco (formerly called Dom Angelo). The girls here are pro´s...all of them. You should get a girl to come with you for R$ 50-100, but there are some that ask more...up to R$ 300. My advice is NOT to give in. A girl told me that some foreigners pay that price and now she regards it as normal. I don´t even pay that in Holland and the prices there are up to 5x as high. So if you pay tose king of escort prices, you are spoiling it for everybody else.
In the weekend I will check out the non pro scene at Mucuripe disco and will report on that.
Remember that not all of the hotels allow guests in your room. My pousada does. So check it out before you check in. There are a lot of motels around where you can stay for an hour or so for about R$ 30.
Is anyone in town right now? Pm me. Maybe we can do some hunting!
Still in Fortaleza. I did not make it to the Mucuripe disco yet. There is another one called Azalem on Drago do Mar. That seems to be a non pro scene. I might check it out.
At Kapital disco I got a few pro´s. One was definately a 9 and asked R$ 100 (US$ 35). Can you believe that? She stayed all night and wanted it again after she woke up.
Another one insisted on R$150. She was very beautiful as well but worked on the clock. After an hour she was gone.
So there are pro´s and pro´s. Keep that in mind.
The first one I will call again for sure. I made a pic of her and will try to post it later.
One more thing,
I checked out the street girls in the Praca dos Martires. A friend said het got a beautiful chica for only R$ 20.
I did not see any beauties there. They looked to me what they charge...cheap. Some were pregnant!
But you might want to check it out for yourself. The park is near the Mercado Central, behind the military compound.
The Mercado Central is a nice place for non pro´s. I saw some beauties working or shopping there.
Hey Dutchie,
Thanks for the great reports. I am about to book an apartment on Beira Mar tomorrow, along with my flight. I will be going to Fortaleza for 12 days in late May and would appreciate any information that anyone has to offer.
After reading your report, now i'm not too skeptical about getting an apartment on Beira Mar right infront of the beach. I am going through FlatShop for the apartment, and the idiot i'm emailing is trying to run a smooth move on me, but i'm going to escalate above his head, and call the young lady you all have mentioned here that speaks english and quite possibly get a better rate, but he has personally taken pictures to send me and everything looks to be in order.
I'll defenitely give my report upon returning and will continue to check here for further Fortaleza Reports.
Thanks again!
Okay,
Well I'm heading a small tour to Thailand (Pattaya Beach) in August and I just got back from Cuba. (check post) April 13th I'm leaving from San Diego to Fortaleza, first trip to Brazil. and it seems Meirelles is right in the middle of all the day time action? Any way, it would be nice if someone could give me a number of a inexpensive cool flat (meaning one where you can bring the mice in and out with no hassle) close by the beach. Doesn't have to be on it. Other than that?
Thank you all for your helpful posts. I'm sure I'll be making Brazil one of my new hunting grounds.
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Hi Sunday,
Try the site fortaleza-online.de: it has many good appartmens for reasonable prices. I've been in Fort last summer and I stayed in a house in rua Alves, in Iracema, very good, with AC and security 24 hours. The owner is a german guy who lives in Brasil.
Hope it helps, have a nice time,
Chicob
A little help here please!
I am having trouble finding an apartment/flat that allows guests to be admitted up to the apartment without an extra fee.
For anyone who has been in Fortaleza recently (within the past 6 months) and who stayed in a luxury (emphasis on luxury) apartment, please give me some options.
Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Oi Silent,
Try Via Vennetta instead.
Google a bit on the net and you might find what you want (or shall I say NEED?)
Sumimazen
Fortaleza is GREAT! I went recently I was very impressed with the hundreds of *****s, nice prices, and the beautiful city. The *****s are everywhere, and even in normal beaches like Futuro, you can propositition semi-pros and have them sucking your dick without a condom the same day.
Fortaleza is the Rio de Janeiro of the North, and the cheap food and cheap women is wonderful. Rio de Janeiro has become much too touristy, and with dumb videos from people like Snoop Dawg, it is attracting too many obnoxious American tourists who overpay and turn the place into a cheap diseased version of Bangkok. Rio de Janeiro now even has American porn stars spreading STDs and AIDS there...although most of the STDs probably has come from all the international mongers who come to spread their diseases in Help and the Termas...and probably picked up in Bangkok, India, and other disgusting places in the world.
I would recommend renting a private apartment in Iracema for a few months, and you will have so many non-pro girls to fuck it will not be funny. Just hop from bar to bar like Zippi or Europa. The girls are also from the interior of Ceara and much less hardered like the Rio *****s, so they will be happy to get meals, stay with you.
I picked up a 18 year old beauty from the interior of Ceara, and I would open her legs and fuck her whenever I wanted, and then she would suck my dick after I came into her just as a sort of 'desert'. Waking up every morning with an 18 year old sucking you dick was a great experience. You will never get such service in the south of Brazil, like Rio de Janeiro, and NO WAY in places like Curitiba. I paid this one 300 reais to stay with me for 7 days, but I fed her and took her to vacation spots.
[u]Come on guys where are the photos[/u]…..? You guys are always raving about the top [i]garotas[/i] up here so where are they? Anyway from my 2003 tour here are a couple of photos to get you started.
The [i]garota[/i] with her faced concealed is because she asked me to, and I have kept my word to her, but she was one of the best girls I have ever had in Brazil always wanted to please me and sucked dick like her life depended on it.
Enjoy !!
Girls of Fortaleza
Girls of Fortaleza #3
Girls of Fortaleza #4
Girls of Fortaleza #5
Girls of Fortaleza #6
Girls of Fortaleza #7
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Rastaman,
Thank you for that very nice review of Fortaleza. Are you a jealous black man or something?
RioNut,
I rather enjoyed your report...not sure what Rastaman's problem is.
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One thing you must be careful about with Fortaleza and Ceara non-pros. If they like you, they will very easily let you spread their legs and fuck them without a condom, especially the young naive girls. So if you are not careful, it is easy to get them pregnant. Well, haha, there are worse things than to empregnate a beautiful Brazilian girl, but then you will have problems with her parents, alimony, and things. Many see you as a white knight, so be careful that they do not try to hang onto you for dear life.
You will notice though, the non-pros are a step up in beauty from the prostitutes. The prostitutes however will do anything, and basically be your sex slaves for very cheap. My friend hired two for 4 days as we rented a buggy and went riding in the dunes. He paid each one 100 reais per day. He fulfilled his fantasy of having 2 teenage girls (19 years old) giving him a wet blow job at the same time every night and every morning. I have never seen him so happy. Again, something like this would NEVER happen in Rio, Sao Paulo, and any city in the south of brazil, where it is like Amsterdam in terms of GFE...in other words, no GFE, at least compared to naive Ceara girls.
One thing I would recommend because many have asked about non-pros. The girls in the interior are very desperate and naive, and almost certainly see foreign men as some sort of saviors. In Fortaleza, because of charter flights from Europe, they are getting more and more used to foreign men and becoming a little bit pickier. Try the interior and you will not regret.
Ciao Rio Nut,
Thank you very much for precious information; I was in Recife last year,everybody there told me that in Fortaleza much better, so I would like to try,but what do you mean with "the girls of interior"?
I have 2 friends married with Brazilian women and not deny a relationship with Brazilian Woman, so thank in advance for your answer.
ciao,
Luca
Ciao Luca,
The girls of interior are the girls who live in the medium cities inside of Ceara, far away from the beach and Fortaleza. The girls there are very naive, and very desperate, and meeting a foreigner will be the highlight of their lives. Many that my friend and I met, were very excited and wanted to take pictures with us. After buying them some gifts, we were fucking them very soon, and soooo tight!! They would whimper and get so wet, quite different from hardened prostitutes. The girls start fucking very young, maybe 15-16 (or younger) in the interior and marry young too, so you will have to be careful since they are very beautiful at that age.
Also, you will notice that there are many young beautiful girls who hang out near the truck stops. They are there to maybe make some extra money by having sex with the Brazilian truck drivers, and charge 10-20 reais. Very cheap, so if you come and offer them 100 reais, they will stay with you forever and give you their bodies with much enthusiasm.
But really, you must at least speak some portuguese in the interior, because it is not as easy a thing as just pointing and paying like in Fortaleza.
Fortaleza is 10 x better than Recife. Recife is ugly, dangerous, and the girls not so cute and very hardened. No body wants to go to Recife anymore.
For places with very few tourists, Joao PEsso and Maceio are it. There, you got and find girls who have never talked to a foreign man, much less had sex.
RioNut,
The girls may not be as naive as you think. Years ago, a friend of mine who lived in Fortaleza (may still live there, haven't heard from him in about 5 years) tried to explain to me why there were so many young mothers. He said something to the effect of "For some reason, they want to check that the plumbing is all fully funtional, once they're satisfied that it works, they try to avoid getting pregnant." So, when they first start having sex, a lot of these girls do it with the intention of getting pregnant. Once they have a kid, they have sex for pleasure and take precuations to avoid having a second child. So go after the ones who already have a kid, they may be less likely to get themselves knocked up (this, of course wouldn't be a problem if you always wore a raincoat).
On the other hand, some of these girls from the interior are just not very well educated - an English friend of mine was working in a village in Bahia (this was about 15 years ago). Every evening he would get his evening meal (usually cerveja, but occasionally he would get some food too) at the one bar in this village. For the first two weeks, he was getting laid by a different girl every night, said he wasn't even trying to pick them up! He thought it was too easy - even for Brasil - so he asked what was going on. The girl said "We want our babies to be able to speak English, since you're English, if you make us pregnant, our babies will be able to speak English". Obviously, he thought this was hillarious, so he told the girl that he had had a vasectomy years before (claims this was just a joke) - she told all the other girls & for the next two weeks that he was there, he couldn't even buy a piece of ass in that town. The life of a sperm doner, it's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it!
CW
Ciao Rion Nut,
Thanks for informations. Last March 03 I was in trouble if Recife or Fortaleza. For me the same, but I choosed Recife and it was a little disaster. Yes the sea, cheap food are great and I had big saidade LOL! But no night life with exception of Bamboo and Sampa, so surely I will choose Fortaleza next time.
My friend was in Maceio, little turist as you told me and quite good, but in January, last march 03, the third week of march, 2 italians, (I am Italians too, and you?), went to Maceio and stay there 2 days. Nobody's was there they told me, so I don't know. Joao da Pessoa I know nothing. How far are these cities of interior of F.? You went there by bus? I wish you a beautiful weekend, I go to Bratislava until Tuesday, my little Brasil here without Ocean LOL.
Take care,
bye,
Luca
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hehehe Cash Works.
Well yes the girls are not naive in that they are stupid. They all want something.
What they think you give them is a better life and more status. Brazilian women, more than other women, always want to marry up up up. So a foreign man, even if you are 40-60 years old, would be a great catch to get empregnated by for a 16-25 year old girl.
Rio Nut,
Yeah, I remember having that sort of conversation with the girls at the barraccas when I was living down there. They all wanted to marry a foreigner, since "all the foreigners who managed to travel to Fortaleza for a vacations were RICH after all." Of course, after they got hitched to this foreigner they had known for a week, they would move away from Brasil to "live the good life" in whatever country their new spouse hailed from. Some Fantasy, eh?
Being the nice guy that I am, I tried to explain economics and the idea that wealth is a relative thing, but I really don't think that I got through to any of them. It was fun trying though and usually wound up with a session back at my apartment when they got really confused - sex was the one thing these girls knew a lot about, so if their idea of reality was ever in doubt, a vigorous sex session would put things back in perspective for them.
I remember this one girl - she was one of my girlfriends roommates - named Teca (I never actually had sex with this one, just a lot of flirting). She was absolutely beautiful, but dumb as hell. Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling her dumb because she was illiterate and uneducated, I know some very intelligent people who have that same unfortunate condition. I'm calling her dumb because she was too proud to ask anybody for help with things she knew nothing about like reading and writing. She actually managed to snag herself a Swiss tourist (without getting pregnant, I might add). When he got back to Switzerland, he arranged a visa for her and even sent her an open plane ticket to use whenever she got all the paperwork finished on her end (getting a passport and getting the visa stamped in it, etc.). A week after I heard about her "good fortune", she showed up at the barracca where I was spending my afternoon. She said she had thrown everything in the trash because she couldn't fill out the forms to get the passport and she was too embarrassed to ask anybody to help her. I reckon, if she's still alive, she's still in Fortaleza but I doubt that she's still hooking since she'd be pushing 40 by now.
CW
RioNut and Cashworks,
You guys have provided me with motivation. I will be going to Fortaleza the end of this month for about 12 days and then moving on to another place. I was supposed to be accompanied by 2 of my friends, but one of them just pulled out on me TODAY, and the other is still in the air about it (but I think he's going to pull out on me also), while I have already booked my airline ticket.
So, as it turns out, I JUST MAY be in Fortaleza all by my lonesome self, with limited portuguese (on the 2nd Set of the Pimsleur 30-CD Lesson) I reckon I may have a hard time, but I fared pretty well in Rio during Carnival, but alot of the pros there spoke some (if not much) english.
I have an apartment in mind now, i'm just not sure if the guy is trying to scam me or not. I have thought about just getting a cheap hotel for one night and use the time to go and view apartments and find out about their guest policy before I commit to anything, and i'm afraid to try and call someone because the minute they hear that i'm not a fluent portuguese speaker and guess that i'm an American, i'll get the "American Price".
In any event, i've heard a few stories, and I have some buddies in Miami whom have been to Fortaleza and made a little video about it (which I have yet to get). I hope there will be plenty of things to keep me busy, and my other friends are telling me that i'm CRAZY to be going to a city in Brazil ALONE, and not knowing that much Portuguese.
I say "what the hell, you only live once", and they start talking about safety. I'm a 6'4, 250lb black guy with a linebackers build and i'm from a city where crime is no stranger. I fared well in Rio, I played it smart, no flashy jewelry, inexpensive (looking) watch and kept my head on a swivel. I'll do the same in Fortaleza, even though all the reports I read on Fortaleza state that crime is not that big an issue as it is in Rio, and I didn't ever feel uneased in Rio during my whole 8 day stay. Although, i'm no dummy and I know size can't beat a gun, if I ever were in a situation where some brasileiro attempted to rob me, I think I could stomach giving them what was in my pockets at the time, and still feel pretty good about having an extra credit card stashed somewhere in my apartment. LOL
Thanks for the motivation guys, and if there's any more information you all think might be useful to me on this trip, then i'd love to hear it. This will be my 2nd time in Brazil, but not my first time doing a trip alone. I did Puerto Rico, Cozumel, Belize, and The US Virgin Islands alone all for 2 weeks at a time, so i'm sure i'll find the company of some beautiful girls. No GFE's though, i'm spoiled and if i'm paying to play, I want to wake up with something different every morning, as opposed to having one stay with me for 5-7 days. Plus i'm sure i'll do alot of doubles in Fortaleza.
Anyway, thanks guys and I look forward to more advice/info/stories before I leave in -- 25 days!
To Silent,
I will just support you and wish you good luck and a happy travel, even if you are travelling alone. I was there in july 2003, travelling alone, and felt none problems. am going back in late June this summer, because its so easy to fell in love with the people and their "manjana-atmosphere"!
Have a nice trip!
Oi Silent,
Nice to hear that you are going. Nice friends you got, thought. I bet the trip was all their idea.
Where do you stay anyway, have you tried my tip?
Hope you'll have a fabulous time in Fortaleza.
Sumimazen
Sumimazen,
I absolutely have tried your tip and it's proving very fruitful, I'm just skeptic about everyones guest policy.
Via Venetto looks rather promising though. Right now i'm going through this online company that is giving me good rates, but I don't think they're promising airport transfer, but i'll get around that, or either hop a taxi.
This WILL be a good trip. I will see to it.
I'm listening to, and practicing dancing forro as I type.
(well, I'm not exactly dancing as I type, but i'm listening to forro)
Yes, Fortaleza is NOTHING like Rio de Janeiro in violence and murder. Actually, there are favela like areas, but you have no need to go to such places. Besides, you will be too enchanted with the gorgeous beaches and sand dunes to even notice, Rio de Janeiro city beaches are nothing compared to these.
As for prostitutes, there are large roving bands of hundreds of girls everywhere. It is no problem switching one 18 year old girl to another every night, or better yet, have 2 or 3 on the same night! The only thign is that you will be fighting it out with Dutch and Italian men, who come every week on charter flights to also fuck the pretty girls. Actually there are many many Italians, Dutch and Portuguese who never left and now live in Fortaleza.
I have never taken 4 *****s, but I have once taken 3. I woke up with 3 nakes teenage girls, one sleeping near my penis, and the other two wrapped around my arms. I felt like the king, and it was a fantasy come true watching 3 young women fighting over my cock with their tongues. Actually, the best part was when I was really fucking hard the youngest one who was whimpering and very wet, and the other two started saying "eu quero tambem" (I want it too). hehe They all want to be fucked!!
In my opinion, the night life of Fortaleza is the best in ALL of Brazil. And yes, even better than Sao Paulo because anywhere in the South, you have stuck up people who are reserved. It is like partying in London. What is the point? But in Fortaleza, you have a club, lots of crazy people, and of course, many many semi-pros you can fuck.
Do not forget the beach of Jeri, which is worth renting a boogy and taking a few bitches too. It is almost like paradise, swimming in very clear blue waters naked with women that you fuck all day, then buying cheap crab and having it fed to you. Yes, the Nordeste is the besT!
Silent,
Unfortunately, I can't give you any current information. I've been meaning to get back down to Brasil for quite a few years, but fate seems to be working against me - every time I get close to going, something comes up that screws up my travel plans. One of these days though - It's still in the plans!
If you're 6'4", the locals will think you're a giant. I'm right at 6', and I was at least half a head taller than most of the men and a full head taller than most of the women in Fortaleza - folks in Rio, as I recall, were generally a little taller than the folks in Fortaleza. I had one girlfriend who used to call me "Grandao", I'd like to say that it was in reference to my member, but I think I'd be lying.
People in Fortaleza were much more laid back than the folks in Rio when I was living down there. I'm sure that this may have changed a little though.
Just relax, be polite and have a sense of humor - the locals will see you're happy & that will generally lead them to treat you in a friendly manor (this actually works just about everywhere - even Lagos, Nigeria).
I envy you. Have a great trip. Give your buddies hell for whimping out.
CW
Hey guys,
Thanks for the inspiration!
Now one of my buddies is trying to sing a different tune, but I think he's still faking on me. Now he's trying to say he can come for 5 days possibly, but he can't escape his girl for any longer, plus he has to lie to her and tell her he's going to Miami, not Brazil. *sad*
I wanted to ask you guys, does any of you have any information on this particular Accor Hotel/Flat (basically short-term apartment rentals):
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PARTHENON MEIRELLES
Rua joaquim nabuco 166, Fortaleza br 60125120, Brasil - Fortaleza - Brazil
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I've got great quotes on this place and was even able to get a few good online reviews from satisfied customers, but I guess what I really wanted to know was exactly how good it is in proximity to action and ease of mobility. (can I get around fairly easy from there). Is the pussy close to this place? (that's what I really want to say)
I know that it's got everything else I want in terms of luxury (with MANDATORY bed service daily), and the guy has sent me about 7 pictures of inside the apartment, the view from the balcony, and even the lobby. I was adimant about seeing the place BEFORE I committed to anything.
He's guaranteeing me that I will be allowed to bring guest back to the apartment (with ID of course), because this is considered a "flat service" and not a hotel stay, also free breakfast (per usual), airport transfer, and I talked him into throwing in a cellphone for the length of my stay. Hell, i'm sure he's shaving off a cut of the money, why not make me, the customer, happy here.
Clubs I have on my hotlist so far.
Pirata (Monay Night MUST)
Drago do Mar
Mucuripe Club
Zipi (i think?)
Desigual?
Any others?
I will probably be posting DAILY frontline reports from Fortaleza, to keep all my fellow mongerers inspired, and i'll try my best to equip each report with my take of the day.
Silent, I really feel a little bit jealous for the fact you are going there, but I think I may be of some help.
The place to stay, should be a flat, you may choose a hotel for the first night (whatever you choose will be ok, but try a nice one, since it will be just one day).
Then you should go to flatshop, as millions of times people recomended in this Forum.
There you will apointed with several flats, and simply choose one.
Of course if you move throughout Av. Abolicao, in direction to Iracema, you will find several buildings where you can try to enter and ask if some apartments are free. This may seem confusing but there you will imediatly understand, what buildings are renting flats to foreigner. Flatshop will be your best try.
Bars, are all in the same zone in Iracema, its impressive, dont worry you will find them. Zipi and Desigual are in that iracema zone, but the big bar there, its Kapital (changed the name recently). Dragão do Mar, is a cultural zone near iracema, where you have theaters, and some bar (non-pro, mainly for Brasilien common people, but of course you may pick up someone depending of your ability). Pirata is in Iracema (near the Hot bars), but it has a different environment, very big, so you will find common people, and also some pros, but its not the ideal place for hunting
In the afternoons, you have always a Pro/non Pro scene in Praia do Futuro, 8 Kilometeres (20 Brasilien reals by taxi) from Iracema.
Enjoy, and behave.
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No, I recommend this one:
http://www.sunflower-hotel.com/
It is a beautiful very clean very well-kept Pousada run by a European man with Brazilian staff. He will give you all the information you need on where to go, what is hot, the latest gossip with the girls, and best of all, will not even care that you are fucking one teenage girl after another throughout your stay.
I highly recommend, and it has many fotos and centrally located. I very much enjoyed my stay there.
Also do not forget to take some young horny bitches to Canoa Quebrada. When I was there, there was an old British man in his 50s and he had with him 2 teenage school girls as his sex slaves. I do not know where he got the, but they were very cute! Such perky breasts and well formed bundas (asses)!! Anyway, he said he had come for 5 days and was now in his 2nd month of vacation!
Your breath will be taken away with the paradise places in Ceara. It is so different, including the women's friendliness from the South of Brazil, it is like another country. For some reason, Ceara girls also have a reputation of being flirty and horny. The girls in Pernambuco (where Recife is) are not like that...they are more conservative.
Also, there is a difference between Bahia girls and Ceara girls. Ceara girls have less black blood (although some still have of course), so you are more likely to find girls who look like Salma Hayek or Jay Lo than you maybe Beyonce or Hale Berry.
Many people prefer the pousadas, i never tried it. I really prefered to pay less, for a whole flat just for me. Also with security, and parking facility.
The only minus point was the fact, you will have to get your own breakfast.
But its its good people have diferent views, this way we all get pleased with our lodging options!
I will now repeat some something I said some months ago.
Dont put your expectations too high.
Yes its true, there will be millions of girls, but the average level is somewhat low (for my personal taste). No doubt you will find 9's and perhaps some 10's, but you will have to work really hard on that.
But it will be great, I will return there as soon as I can.
Breakfast in the Apartment.
Well, I used to have some buddies who would make the girl they spent the night with fix breakfast before they let her go home in the morning. One of these guys even made the girls clean his apartment (saved on maid service I guess).
Just make sure that you have food in the kitchen, because one of these guys told his girl to fix breakfast, but forgot that he was out of food. He heard her leave & thought that she was pissed off & left without getting her money from him, so he just rolled over and went back to sleep. A little while later, he heard noise in the kitchen and went to investigate (butt naked). The girl explained that there wasn't any food and she really didn't know how to cook, so she went home and got her mother (who was there, staring at his dick since he wasn't wearing any clothes). He claims that he grabbed the girl and had one last quickie while mom was cooking breakfast.
If it was me, I would have tried to get mom to join in.
CW
I was in Fortaleza with a friend last Fall for about a week and a half. I loved it, and I thought the garotas were better looking than many posters believe. My friend went back this Spring - about 5 months later - and says there are totally different girls in Iracema now than before. Is the turnover that quick? What happened to the garotas that were in Iracema last Fall? Where did they go? Do other cities, including Rio, have such a quick turnover also? Can anyone explain why there is such a quick turnover? I am just curious.
Henry:
About the quick turnover, the reason is that Fortaleza is MUCH closer to "the backwoods" than Rio is. In other words, what's happeneing is that poor little girl from some village in the sticks needs money for whatever reason (usually becuase she had a kid at age 16, but could be she wants a new stove, she's bored with her life, Daddy needs a new goat, who knows), so she goes to the big city - Fortaleza - to make money. Which 9 times out of 10 means hooking in Iracema. So she does that for a few months, gets the money she needs and goes back home.. or onwards to Recife, Rio, or Sao Paulo. Because if she gets a "taste" for hooking and decides that she likes the money / lifestyle, she soon says, why the hell should I be making chump change in Fortaleza when I can make "real money" in Copacabana, Sao Paulo, etc.. (from there they go to Spain, Italy...). So that's why the turnover, basically Fortaleza is a way station. And that's why less turnover in Rio, it's the destination (although Rio has it's own turnover dynamic).
Tom B.
Yes, Brazilian bitches have become a big export for the country of Brazil. There are many to be find in the brothels of Portugal, Spain, and Italy. They are also being exported to Japan to be used as sex slaves for Asian men as well. Many of the Brazilian girls I met had already been offered sex positions or even marriage by foreign men from all over the world, including Holland, U.S. Germany, Japan, Korea, and Italy.
Most of the prostitutes were just waiting for the right offer to come along, because of course they are scared to go to another country in the beginning. But after making dollars and Euros and Yen, they ultimately cannot really resist.
The worse are the ones who have already been abroad and come back, like many of the ones you will find in Help Disco in Rio. I would not touch those with a 10 foot pole. Either they are hardened to the point of have zero feelings, or they have STD. Be very aware in Rio de Janeiro, and come to Fortaleza for the less experiened ones who are just starting as junior bitches BEFORE moving to Rio and Sao Paulo as professional hookers.
hi guys,
just back from three weeks in for. been there 7 times and each time i get back i find the whole scene getting worse and worse. four or five years ago girls were everywhere, happy to hook up with a foreigner to spend some time together and, obviously, get some money (everyone needs food, ok?).
30-40r$ a day were the word, but many times they just wanted a small tip at the end of the "relationship".
expecially in the last year, since a new disco was opened (dom angelo, now kapital), everything has turned to business. every given night the same show going on, with first time italians or dutchmen laughing at the table with some hardcore hooker ready to rip them off. plenty of young tourists, even under 20yo, acting as they are in ibiza or something like that.
now price is always negotiated (and this is an advice, as many girls will threaten you when problems come out in the room), and it's 100r$ minimum, with some asking up to 250-300. the overall quality is poor, in praia de iracema, around cafè do mar and kapital there are around about 200-300 girls, with 50-100 male tourist (this goes for late april-early may, in august ratio goes up to 1:1 and girls are more than happy to go back to the disco to pick up another you when you're "finished").
as i said 200-300 girls are there every night, monday night, when the pirata is opened, the number increases to almost 500, i think, but cuties are 5-10, with no 9, and 1 to 3 eights. man, i was desperate.
inside kapital music is loud, where they play forrò, and louder inside the disco itself, on the upper level.
girls' attitude is terrible, some girls living in a "favela" acting as princess, with tourists behind her trying to make her sit at their table, girls shouting in the face of some poor guy, same old lesbians i know since 1999 playing pool, pimps for their female friends.
i found all of this very sad, and i admin i felt uncomfortable many times in this vacation, maybe as i never felt before.
it's a market, all part of a business, with girls travelling to europe 3 or 4 times with 3 or 4 different partners speaking to you in dutch or italian, with clear signs of 1 or 2 babies in their past.
beira mar is full of beggars and people trying to sell you the most unuseful things of the world, with hookers, mostly 3's and 4's, looking at you.
last week police shut down bikini bar and europa bar because of some **** girls inside with fake documents, looking for some money or, worse, to frame some tourist threatening to call the police if you don't pay. some foreigners were fined 400r$ for not having their passport, and were taken to the police station all night.
cearà governement is looking at what is going on at praia iracema, and kapital and cafè do mar are still opened thanks to their lawyers. one of them is a local politician, too (hey, this is brazil after all). during last 4-5 nights there were policemen (with the shirt "poder judiciario") inside the disco, checking the scene.
i did not enjoy my last time in fortaleza, and i won't go back because of these reasons, better go for luck in some other place in the world.
bye all.
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Tatase,
Sorry to hear about your ruined vacations. The way you described it made it sound like Rio. I am sure you can still find places in Brazil that looked and felt like Fortaleza before it became comercialized by international tourism. Just takes some looking and adventurous spirit.
Any visitors going to Fortaleza should be aware of the news that came out tuesday, where a total of 27 out of 70 tourists inspected were found without their passports in Iracema beach by an operation started by the local police to target sexual tourism. Out of those 27 only 7 were arrested and fined 900 reais which they must pay if they want to ever step back into Brazil. The other 20 were able to send friends or girlfriends to their hotels to bring them their passports and avoid arrest. In accordance with brazilian law, any foreigner must show his or her passport once solicited by any authority. The police will target most bars where foreign presence is most noted, mainly those suspected of allowing prostitution, specially with minors. In the process, one bar and a club were shut down. The local police commander said these operations will be repeated specially monday nights, when more cases with minors prostitution is noted. Watch your backs in Iracema.
Thanks for ALL your information fellaz. I had made a nice color copy of my passport, but I think i'll carry it in a thigh pouch on my leg under my clothes now just incase they try and tell me a copy isn't good enough.
I'll certainly keep you all posted on any reports and any difficulties I have. I wanted to read this one last time b4 I ran out of the house for my 9:55AM flight. I'm out the door fellaz!
Fortaleza, here I come!
Are there some updated news from Fortaleza? Silent? Are the situation as bad as some previous posts indicate ? My second summer vacation in Forta starts 27. June. Should a person with normal, healthy goals avoid the city and travel somewhere else in Brazil? I appreciate “fresh” opinions very much. Sorry for my English (my Portuguese are even worse)
hi guys,
i had a very bad news from a girl i knew in fortaleza during my last visit.
the police fined about 40 foreigners (especially italiens) that were in disco kapital without passport; twelve of them were with **** girls, so they were brought to the prison. the disco was closed by the police.
the girl isn't a pro and doesn't go to the disco; she had news watching local tv.
i can't be sure about all of that, but seems that now there are too much problems mongering in iracema.
any information from other mongers is welcome.
Fortaleza Update.
Reliable sources told me yesterday that an italian tourist died in Fortaleza due to drug overdose last week.
Since then police presence in Praia de Iracema has increased, and crackdown vs tourists is heavy by now. Almost every night there are cops checking documents and fining people without.
Bye.
Thank you boys for this info.
Its sad to hear this, former Dom Angelo/now Disco Kapital was my favourite place during my last stay. It was so steamy, hot and easy, just to line up behind those forró/salsa/techno dancing chick, dance a little against her beautiful butt, and she was mine, at least for that night.
But shit, how hard can it be to bring a passport?
Lately I have been flirting with some non-pro girls on MSN. They claim to be students, and are able to write in English, which makes everything more easy for a North – European. Some photos are received and some of them even have a web cam in their girls room. I guess they are from the middle class of Fortaleza. I have several telephone numbers and some promising agreement of meeting some of those cute 18 – 20 years old students. I have used the same method several times in Estonia, Europe, with great luck, just meeting some hot teenagers one week-end, just for friendship and sex. I am aware of the danger next morning, when some of them like to go to shopping and receive gifts, but I try not to fall in love with them.
In the beginning they where very sceptical, but after some talking, they seems to melt and become more and more personal and (girl) friendly. We will see.
I am 42, but I like to believe I am 32 on the dance floor and 22 at the “nach-spiel” Especially when having a mix of 7 - 8 Caipirinha and Viagra onboard !
I enclose a photo from Tallinn, Estonia, related to abovementioned.
Hello Everyone! This is my first post to the forum. To all the past posters - THANK YOU - and I hope this post will be of some use to future travelers to Fortaleza.
Being my first trip to Brazil, I did not know what to expect. I heard many stories of people's travels to Brazil. Always praise of going and regret for coming back. I felt the same as I got on the plane to and from Brazil and am already doing everything in my power to get back as soon as possible. I wouldn’t have classified my trip as a mongering trip due to the fact that I was visiting an old friend from college. From people’s stories on this site, I knew I was in for a treat and Fortaleza met up to my expectations. However, this site provided great information during my travels as to where to find women and in general what to expect.
As a point of reference, I wanted to give everyone some stats on me. I’m 26 years old from the US. Decent looking and in shape and have taken a couple months of Portuguese classes. Not enough to converse freely, but enough to communicate. I went to Fortaleza to hang out with a good friend from college that is from Fortaleza and works at a nice hotel there. I wasn’t so much of an outsider and that might have made things easier for me.
To start off, I wanted to comment on Tatase's comments on Fortaleza:
“Girls' attitude is terrible, some girls living in a "favela" acting as princess, with tourists behind her trying to make her sit at their table, girls shouting in the face of some poor guy, same old lesbians I know since 1999 playing pool, pimps for their female friends. I found all of this very sad, and I admin I felt uncomfortable many times in this vacation, maybe as I never felt before.”
My comments: I found the girls really friendly and interested to meet someone. When I walked into a club, I usually got stares from one or two girls. I would pick the best looking one and within an hour I was making out with them in the club. My friend from Fortaleza took me to some clubs (Ole Club and ArreEgua) that seemed to not have many “garotas de programme” and I did feel a little more attitude. But when I got through the communications problems, they were as nice as could be.
Beira Mar is full of beggars and people trying to sell you the most unuseful things of the world, with hookers, mostly 3's and 4's, looking at you.
My comments: Also, Beira Mar has lots of prostitutes. I was propositioned by a cute 17 year old. I told her no because she was too young and she showed me an “obviously” fake ID and said he was actually 19 years old. This was right after she said she was 17. I ran from that as fast as possible. It is true, there are a lot of peddlers, but that seems to be normal in Brazil.
My experiences with the women in Fortaleza were good. Over a 3 week periond, I hooked up with 5 girls, I had sex with 3, and I made out in a club with 2, and during my last week there, I hooked up with a cutie for several days of GFE. We ended up having sex morning noon and night. It was like heaven. Wake up to a BBBJ, then sex, and then I would shower while she made me breakfast, and then more sex. All I ever paid was for dinner and going around Fortaleza. I paid went to a “bath” house one night on recommendation from a friend and paid for some pretty good sex from this super hottie from Curitiba. But I thought the GFE sex was many times better than what I paid for.
As I read more of these posts from people about the cops and etc, it makes me wonder. Fortaleza may or may not be like it use to be, but I had a really good time there. My advice to anyone thinking of going is TO GO! I didn’t meet anyone there that regrets it. There are many hot women to go around and the only way you would get sex there is by being blind, deaf, and without genitals. To be honest, I wouldn’t even count those people out. Where there is a will, there is a way!!!
Here is my list of preferential clubs in Fortaleza and the night to go to them:
Monday – Pirata
Tuesday – Pagode Mais o Minus
Wednesday – Ole Club – it’s a womens club until 11:30, so go a little before and you will have the pick of the litter…TRUST ME!
Thursday – Croco Beach
Friday – Mucuripe
Saturday – Lots of Places – Depends on what you want
Sunday – Orbita
Hope this helps some of you out!
I must agree with the bad news: a friend of mine was in Fort last week and he told me that he was stopped two times in two days: both of the times he showed the copy of his passport but wasn't accepted. The first time he paid R 100 at the police to avoid to be taken to the station; the second time (the same policeman!!!) took him to the station and had to pay a fee. I know it sounds incredible, but he insisted in not taking with him the passport just because he talked with other tourists that had the passport stolen in the disco. Anyway after the second esperience in the police station (he said he was treated like a shit!), he decided not to go anymore to Iracema (he said that it wasn't so good) and tried some nights (which had the problem that are pretty far from the center and expensive but at least without police giving you problems.
The final comment is that Fortaleza is very fastly becoming like big towns, dangeruos and expensive, but without the good choise you can have there (he told that the comparison between good looking girls ad tourists was 1:5 and that even the so so looking garotas wanted at least 150 R!!!, unbelievable just one year ago).
Hope it helps, bye.
Cyber Stylz,
first of all I'm happy for your vacation, after all the only important thing is to have fun in life, as it seems you had.
Then let me explain to you and to others reading this forum some things about Fortaleza:
1) normal girls in Fortaleza won't even talk to you in public, as too many sex tourists have been there. They would be marked as prostitutes by their friends. Please believe me, the more you think she's a good girl, the more she is good in acting. I fuck 1 girl every 2-3 months in my country, and why in the hell when I am in Brazil I get to fuck 2 a day ?? The answer is obvious.
2) 3-4 girls in 3 weeks@Brazil is what I call a nightmare. 10 would be acceptable, 15 is good. But this is obviously my opinion.
3) People like you, who can't understand Portuguese or so, can't see what's going on around, can't get what girls say to each other, can't notice signs they do to their friends, and so on. When the girls sees your attention is going where it shouldn't go, then they say something stupid, and it all ends with a laugh. I've seen thousands like this.
4) When I'm in Brazil, I want sex, man. I mean, BBBJ is entry level,
anal is mandatory (it's Brazil!!!), 2 girls with 1 man is recommended.
As I reported in my post many hookers now want simply you to pop, and to get away as soon as possible. Well, maybe you were lucky with your girls, but generally attitude increases when quality goes down in Fortaleza.
5) Girls' quality. I found extremely hard to find a girl above 6. On any given night@Kapital and other places, there is a 7 every 200-300 girls, and she goes down to 4 if I consider her attitude.
Many of them get a newbie at his first appearance there (and they are like sharks for this) around 10:00PM and at midnight they're ready for round two, or to spend the gringo's money with her girlfriend (BTW, did I mention that 3-4 out of 10 pro's in FOR are true lesbians ??).
But this is only my point of view, based on all the times I was there. It's like Cuba, one goes there now, fucks a 6 of 19 years, and gets the time of his life. I'd probably mark that as my worst experience in the world.
Howewer, as I said, I'm happy for you, but FOR is no more my destination.
Hi guys,
I am returning to Brazil in September and want to see more places outside of Rio. I'm thinking of Fortaleza and/or Recife. Any feedback on how these two compare? Are there better places to see for mongering? I didn't like Salvador too much. Thanks!
Yo Doc Bill!
As you are looking for an alternative, then how about Canoa Quebrada?
Sumimazen
Sumimazen,
Thanks for the recommendation. I never heard of Canoa Quebrada. Can you tell me where it is and more about it? Thanks!
Dear Doc Bill,
Canoa Quebrada seem to be a former "flower power place". Beautiful beaches, rather quiet area (compared to Forta.) and about 300 kilometres south of Fortaleza. There are serveral non-brazilians whom own a pousada or restaurant there.
How to get there? Well, as you are on it. Search the net for different options. Some will pick you up from the airport and bring you back as well.
Or if you like adventure, you go to Forta., rent a carro (try to find a good 4x4) and have a ride!
Sumimazen
I wrote a sex-review of Canoa in the "Other Areas" section. Look for it. Got to say, Canoa is good for beaches and a little smoke, but not really for sex (IMHO). Very small. But I was there mid-week in middle Fall -- maybe it's better on weekends in the Summertime (but what isn't?). Expect a lot of couples.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
Tatase,
You raised some interesting points in your previous report re: Fortaleza.
I, like you (it seems) have spent a lot of time (too much) time in Fortaleza over the last few years.
The first time it was fun, second trip was better because I was with a good mate just going crazy, but on my last trip there (last month), I noticed how much the quality of the girls there has decreased.
Loads of girls with teeth missing (or in one case just 1 tooth left), fat, really short (4'5), or just plain ugly (all in my opinion ofcoarse).
One place I have found hot girls was called "The Whiskey Club" (not in Praia Iracema). These were more like the kind of girls I have found at Help (Rio), but of coarse wanting more $, charging by the hour, all that type of bullshit that comes along with F**king glamours (generalisation of coarse)
But even with saying this, I must point out that there are "down to earth, attractive" gems to be found in Fortaleza (yes even at Kapital, Cafe Del Mar etc). Maybe not like the shit hot girls I have found in Rio, Sao Paulo or Florianopolis, but still very do-able, with good attitudes
I would much rather pick up a pretty good looking chick, F**k her for hours, (with her not wanting to bail after 15mins, one pop), mess around and have a bit of fun, than a glamour who is a straight up *****!
But my conclusion is although in the past I have had a good time in Fortaleza, I don't think I will be returning there.
Think I have burnt the place out. Other places need to be explored!
But please if you are planning a trip there don't get bummed out by my comments, they are just that, mine.
Rex,
My last vacation was "partially" saved with some sessions with girls from Clube del Whiskey (I did Monique, a gorgeous Blonde from Sao Paulo, and Michaela, skinny brunette with huge breasts), and some sessions with girls from www.sexomais.com.br.
These are call girls, who ask for 200-250 R$ for two hours. Some will do almost anything to please, it's just a poker game. Many of them, when I was there, couldn't get a customer/week, so are more "open minded". Others just show up at you with that "princess attitude" I just can't stand.
I would recommend (well, if you are there, but not worth a trip) also a house called Betty, located in an area just outside Fortaleza called Eusebio.
Here you will find 15-20 girls, all above 6, with some 7 and 8. Even some girls doing photo works for the brazilian version of Playboy work there. These ones go for 500R$, but I saw one S*T*U*N*N*I*NG. The "normal ones" go for 200-300R$ for 3 hours. Drinks, a pool, tables, and ususal sh*t.
Negotiations here are possible for having the girl for more days.
I would not recommend another house, called Patricia, went there 10-15 times in years, and never find a girl I liked. Howewer these ones go for 100-150R$.
The place I liked most was a place near the mall of Iguatemi, called "370". But the owner was killed, and the place is dead.
There was a nice pool, and a stage where girls danced and performed shows.
Hope this helps to guys going there,
Bye.
Dear Gentlemen,
Two guys and I are traveling to Fortaleza in the middle of August for roughly two weeks. We're new to the area and are wondering about the best way to meet quality women (7 and up)? Rather than going out and having to deal with searching for new ones every night, we're thinking it might be better to find a few good ones and negotiate for four or fives days worth of commitment and perhaps travel up north with them to Jerico and other beach towns. Can anyone recommend an internet service that we can use or what is the place with the best quality? Also, how much would something like this cost?
Best,
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Naxos10,
I would recommend www.sexomais.com.br
Expect to pay R150/250 p.h
Okay, first my apologies for neglecting my mongering duties, life has dealt me some serious blows, and I haven't been able to make it back here since my trip to Fortaleza back in May/June. I had A BLAST though in Fortaleza and i'm about to list some things.
Okay, short and narrow.
I stayed at Parthenon Mereilles, it's right off Avenida Abolicao or whatever. there's a Banco do Brazil DIRECTLY across the street from the place, location is excellent, as it on one block from Beira Mar and the beach. there's a grocery store a few blocks up the way, and the McDonalds is one block over and one block down, there's a Pharmacy 2 blocks away also. *great location!*
I mostly did tours of other beaches in the region during the day through a tour company called "OceanView Tours" (85) 219-1300, my tours consisted of Cumbuco, Lagoinha, Marro Branco, Prais das Fontes, Capanga, Centro das Rendiras, Canoa QUebrada, Mundau, and Praia do Futuro. all of those were EXCELLENT, and I was able to partake in all of the things designated as these particular beaches. horesback riding, parasailing, windsurfing, jaganda rides, 4-wheeling on the beach, buggy tours of the sand dune, sand surfing. you name it, I did it.
Other times I hung out on BeiraMar and Mucuripe during the day, with the occasional stint at Coco Beach (on Praia do Futuro)... lots of men and their pro's, but it's still a sight to be seen, and the food is pretty good here too.
I went to Beach Park (what a waste.)
In the evening, I went to this GREAT Churascarria down near Praia do Futuro (I went 5 times the food was so good), but only the "higher class brazilians" went, as the price of dinner was $53 Reais. which was nothing to us (foreigners), but apparently was alot for the working class brazilian family of 3 or 4. (or so the 2 girls and the guy of the front desk at Parthenon Mereilles said)
the nightlife. WOW. I don't know where to begin. there are soooooo many options. I'll try to go night for night, or spot for spot. hmm. first a rundown of all the places I went to. Kapital, Cafe del Mar, Alo Brazil, Europa, Bikini Bar, Africas, Armazen, Orbital, Mucuripe, Drago do Mar, Zippi... EVERY NIGHT IN FORTALEZA, there is something fun to do!!!
Cafe del Mar, Europa, Bikini, and Kapital are all right there a few steps from one another. it's like an intersection in Iracema, and they're all just little bars basically that turn to dancehalls. Kapital being the largest of the 4, and Cafe del Mar being the 2nd largest, i'd say you have to cover them ALL in a one night span, and you WILL have fun.
there are also some pretty good eating places there also, we ate at Portofino (italian spot) quite a few times, their seafood platter ($55 Reais) was EXCELLENT and served 2 or 3 people, but we were eating entire ones to ourselves. LOL (it comes with alot of different things, but we just wanted lobster and shrimp, so you got about 6 small lobsters, and about 20 shrimp). the best.
I went to Pirata on Monday night, supposedly the best night in Fortaleza, I was mildly impressed, it was more a brazilian couples setting with people of ALL AGES (18-60) enjoying the local customary sound of forro. I stayed about 2 hours, taking LOTS of pictuers, and broke camp on over to Africas. dead as hell in there, there were about 10 pro's (ALL UGLY) just waiting around for a target. I got out of there quick also.
anywho. you can't get bored in Fortaleza, as there are WAY TOO MANY options.
I must say, the place I enjoyed the most was Mucuripe. Mucuripe is an EXCELLENT club. this place is absolutely HUGE, the doorman said that they don't allow women who openly work as "pro's" in the place, there is about 5 or 6 different rooms where you can enjoy different types of music, and in the main room (the one when u first enter) you can enjoy a live band and sit back and relax with friends. further back, there was an open area with a waterfall wall. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. it was really nice and the staff were very courteous. the women were supposedly the "upper class" brazilian class, but they gave me and my buddies lots of love, and surprisingly, alot of women we met in Mucuripe spoke english. not great english, but you could tell they were either educated, or being educated in it. (this is where I met the younglady who hung out with me for about 7 days. in Mucuripe. like I said, never paid her a dime in her hand, I paid for meals and drinks and she accompanied me on various tours, but that was it. I honestly never gave her one dime in her hand, for 7 days of fun, sex, and more sex!)
Armazen and Orbital both looked like the youthful brazilian crowd, but they were still quite fun. watching the young brazilian guys court the women, and they do ALOT of making out in this place, it was like when they one song came on, everyone would just stop dancing and start kissing. I found that quite funny.
I was able to have dinner in a number of restaurants all throughout the city, but I don't remember the names of them all, we were able to get a driver, so he would recommend places and we'd just go on impulse and try them. I must say, the seafood in Fortaleza is 100% better than the seafood I had in Rio. the Steaks in Fortaleza were awesome as well.
I really wasn't too active in the "pro" scene in Fortaleza, but there were MANY MANY MANY to choose from in the Iracema district at night (Zippi, Kapital, Europa, Bikini, Cafe del Mar). alot of them also hung out on Beira Mar Avenue during the day sitting at the little beachside huts having auga de coco, or a cerveja, and they were QUITE friendly. downside about Beira Mar, is that you get bombarded with people trying to sell you things, and the cutest little kids you can imagine begging you for $1 reais.
I think I might have given away about $300 Reais just to the children alone.
Anything that I may have missed, that you'd want to hear about, please ask, I know I can't touch on EVERYTHING in one post, but if your question refreshes my memory about certain things, then i'll try to answer as quickly and honestly as I possibly can.
I will add more as I can think of it, and will also be adding pictures possibly later today, or tomorrow.
Feel free to PM me with any questions about upcoming trips.
Next up for me, Salvador Bahia.
Oh yeah, a few other things.
Exchange Rate was AWESOME when I was there. I think I was getting $3.17R - $1US. so I didn't complain. I took out about $700R every two days or so, and lived a great life in Fortaleza.
Crime. nonexistent. now I don't want to give anyone a false sense of security, but again, i'm 6'4, 252 black american (ex basketball and football player), and I walked around most places seemingly oblivious to small things going on around me in the streets, yet I remain wary of alot of things. nothing even happened or looked as if it was going to happen. With the company of a cool guy we met who works in Iracema named Wesley (who speaks GREAT English) me and my buddy (6'2, 250) walked up in the fishermans favela (right above Iate Plaza) and we met a few of the folks up there, and sat and had cervejas with them, they were REALLY COOL. despite what everyone originally says about the "favela's" we had a blast hanging in there with the locals. This being said, I WOULD NOT recommend anyone to do this, unless you can grasp basic portugues, and know 100% that if anything goes down, that you have an exit plan, and you're fully confident that the person you go in with, WILL NOT leave you, should the shit hit the fan. that being said, i'd recommend the average tourist stay out of the places, even though the people of the fishermans favela treated us very hospitably, I don't know how they'd treat the next person. They took pictures with us, and we bought them lost of beer. It all worked out for the best.
Not that I would suggest anyone else be in Fortaleza as if nothing can happen to them, but we never saw any crime, and when asking other ppl who lived there of crime, of course they all had a story to tell, but nothing was every DIRECTLY RELATED to them, every story always was about something happening or involving somebody they knew.
Shopping. Iguatemi, and Aldeota Malls. that's all u need to know. Iguatemi was EXCELLENT. lots of stores, with PLENTY of fine brazilian hotties walking around, and you will visibly stand out as a tourist if you have ANY HEIGHT around this place. many of the ppl in the stores would constantly ask me and my buddy if we played American Baketball (basketchball is how it sounds when they say it). Oh yeah, the women who work in the mall will also approach you and want to take pictures of, and with you. They will also give you their numbers freely in hopes of hooking up with you later in the day, or night.
Make no mistake in assuming you are some hot and sexy tourist, most of these women just relish the experience of hanging out with someone who speaks FLUENT ENGLISH in hopes of bettering their english, and if you happen to luck up on some ass, then cherish the moment. *smile*
I'm going back to Fortaleza same time next year. (right before Memorial Day, and staying until around June 15th, that would give me about 3 weeks on the ground in Fortaleza)
There were little to no tourist there while we were there, sure there were some, but not nearly as many that will be there in November. we met a few Dutch guys that wanted to hang out with us, and we hung out with them 2 nights. they spoke NO portuguese, so it was hella funny watching them try to communicate with the women. LOL
Trying to "blend in" was useless, we were the biggest guys down there, aside from our dutch buddies, one of whom was about 6'7, and rather goofy. The people of Fortaleza don't stare at you as much as the people do in Rio, but their curiousity doesn't go unoticed, and they're a little bolder than the people of Rio, with how they just openly approach you and ask you any question they want to know an answer to.
We commonly would have guys approaching us, asking to be photographed with us, and women asking if we played basketball, and can they party with us tonight.
Breakfast. you can either opt to eat in your apart/hotel, most places offer a breakfast service with the room/apartment rental, but we opted to go over to Brasil Tropical Residence to have breakfast some mornings. MY GOD the food was EXCELLENT. it's buffet style for $20 Reais, and you will certainly get your fill over there.
I guess I will get more into the women in my next post. They are not as beautiful as the women in Rio and Sao Paulo, but they more than make up for it with sheer exuberance and efort.
The younglady I met in Mucuripe, WOW, she gave an EXCELLENT BJ, and of course did anal, and bi with other women. She did whatever I wanted to do, and was very excited just to hang out with me and my buddy. She cried when I left, and begged me to keep in contact with her, and also wants to stay with me the next time I come to Fortaleza.
It was an amazing experience that I cannot wait to relive.
In terms of overall fun had, i'd certainly choose Fortaleza OVER Rio, but that's generally because I don't go on vacation purely looking for women to bed, but for an overall experience. As I said, I was with one younglady for about 7 days, and although we often (4 times) invited another younglady to join us for sex, what I most enjoyed about Fortaleza was the general vacation and getaway experience.
the beaches, the food, the people, the fun, the clubs, it was all absolutely remarkable.
Great stuff Silent. I prefer non-pro freebie sex too. Some people complain that GFs end up costing you more than pros, but my experience has been the exact opposite.
How could I forget general pricing.
The pricing in Fortaleza went as follows:
It was all up to your negotiation skills, I had girls hit me with $150 Reais, all the way down to $30 Reais for str8 sex, and then they leave. It's totally up to you.
If you're trying to take a woman off the market for the entire night, look to pay somewhere around $80-$150 Reais, depending on the girl, and your skills of negotiation.
I believe the most I paid was about $120 Reais for one I would consider to be one of Fortalezas top options for the entire night (along with the girl I already had), so that counts as a doubles match with 2 women, for only $120 Reais, and woke up the next morning under 2 beautiful women, and proceeded to bang them both for the 3rd time again in the morning.
I believe I might have had the upper hand though, because I routinely let the younglady I was with do the picking, and she always eyed the best looking and seemingly cleanest girls she could find, for our little experiences.
If you're a single guy, just looking to get your rocks off, and get back out and party, I actually had an experience for $15 Reais once while there, after buying the younglady a drink in Bikini Bar, and promising her more action later that night, I got the younglady to give me a BBBJ (and swallowed) in a taxi as we rode around Avenida Beira Mar, and the taxi costed me $7 Reais. After I was done, we headed right back to Iracema, where my other younglady was waiting paitently for me in Bikini.
I swear, Fortaleza has won me over, Rio was a straight up sex den, full of prostitutes, and EVERYTHING you did was about the money, but I felt different in Fortaleza.
What a life!!!!
Silent,
Good report on Fortaleza. But the girl you picked up from Mucuripe is PRO. Gringos should not assume that "normal" Fortaleza girls screw tourists for 7 days and help pick out other *****s to sleep together with. Come on. The Nordeste is NOT like that.
Rather, she was likely a girl "fishing" for a rich patron boyfriend, or even husband. Or maybe a pro who happened to like you and want to spend time with you without charging.
As much fun as Fortaleza can be, people should realize that there is a difference between REALITY and FANTASY. REALITY is most girls in Fortaleza would rather slit their wrists than parade around with a tourist and be known as a "*****" by the rest of the city.
Luckily, there are plenty of girls who come from other cities to make money, meet gringos, and provide GFE.
Dear Rio Nut,
There have been recently a spate of very negative reports on Fortaleza. The situation has changed there on the ground, especially concerning police presence and the checking of passports. But it is in light of these facts that I found Silent's report to be a counter weight to all these negative reports, and I applaud him for this.
It is also to be remembered that for Silent and a bunch of other people, Fortaleza is the total package. Inexpensive, great beaches, nice weather, good food and infrastructure, low threat of crime. What's not to like?
However, Fortaleza is not the monger's paradise that it was 10, or even 3 years ago either. I have written and bitched and moaned about the changes in Fortaleza for several years now, though I have always had a wonderful time and keep going back, because it is the Total Package. I was there last this January and will try to dig up my post elsewhere on the changes in Fortaleza and post it here as soon as I find it.
Still, I'm happy to see that Silent had a great time in Fortaleza. If only because I expect to be back there again in December.
Be Good,
Gauguin
Rio Nut,
You don´t know how right you are.
My girlfriend, a Fortaleza girl, formerly a part time pro in Rio, was mortified during my stay in FOR, refusing to visit me in my hotel and insisting that I stayed with her family. The thought of anyone seeing her near a hotel with a tourist terrified her.
Gauguin, you make EXCELLENT points my good man. I went into it knowing that it would not be the "mongerers paradise" we have all come to love and seek out in places like Rio and Sao Paulo, but in relative terms, it's also 100% cheaper (cost of living arrangements, transportation, eating expenses, merchandise) than those places, and in terms of women, and make no mistake, a nice 8 or 9 can be found in Fortaleza with a little patience and perserverance.
In Rio and Sao Paulo, there were just many many more to choose from, so you could pick up one dime around 9PM at night, get your fuck on, dump her down by 11:30PM, pop a V or a C (Viagra, or Cialis) go to Help in Rio, or Love Story in Sao Paulo, and be on your way back to the apartment with another dimepiece by 2AM and keep her for the entire night. The only difference is, you wil spend dam near 350% more for that exact episode in Rio and Sao Paulo, than you would have spent for the same episode in Fortaleza, and the only thing you've realistically gained, was relative beauty in the woman you choose.
As stated, I didn't go to Fortaleza seeking out a Brazilian Goddess, I went down to have an overall great vacation, solely to enjoy the vivid and surreal getaway of Brazil, good food, great beaches, daytime fun, night-time fun, and still tons of hot and sexy Brazilian bitches to choose from. You've gotta love it.
RioNut, make no mistake, I would NEVER be anywhere in Brazil thinking i'm some kind of super-tourist with the magic stick for a dick. Trust that I do realize that ANY WOMAN in Brazil who courts me and allows me to have sex with her and trot her around town, almost certainly has an agenda, even if it is something as simple as being in the company of myself, and whomever i'm on vacation with, to gain rewards of a possible longterm friendship (where she can ask for money or other means of support further down the road), or hell, to get a few free meals during the day, and few free drinks at night, it's all a hustle.
My reasons for running the story off in the report the way I did, was to shed light on my affinity to pay over the course of the GFE thru courting expenses, rather than pay money upfront to jump up and down on the girl for a few hours, then off to seek out something new to jump up and down on for a few more hours.
I would suggest any mongerer who's more into settings, relative beauty of landscape, hospitable environments, and serene enjoyment of an entirely different culture than his own, to check out Fortaleza. Again, you may sacrifice the beauty of Rio's and Sao Paulo's women, but like my uncle told me (and he's all Brazil'd out, he was going for 15 years before he got married to a Brazilian woman from Minas Gerais in 1994), Rio and Sao Paulo are the docking stations for Brazils finest *****s. Don't get confused and think that all the beautiful women you meet IN Rio or Sao Paulo are FROM Rio or Sao Paulo. No, they just migrate to the best locales where the chances of making the most money in their past-time profession and their beauty will benefit them most. Rio and Sao Paulo are the Pussy Selling Capitals of Brazil so to speak, so it's no real science as to why those two places are where you will almost always find the most beautiful women in Brazil. During the course of your pay-for-play with these women, engage in a little portugues conversation and you'll find that on average 60% of the working girls are from other small ass little cities or slums all throughout the various parts of the country of Brazil (and those numbers increase to about 70-80% during Carnival), who have left a child and/or children at home with relatives/parents to reap the spoils of selling pussy in the big tourist cities.
I will be back in Fortaleza as I stated, next May, enjoying the beauty of the cities, the serenity of the beaches, the excellent food, and the average to sub-par looking, but relatively FREE pussy.
Viva Brazil.
*two fangaz*
Rio Nut,
I think the girl that Silent hooked up with fits the definition of a Garota de Programma as I knew it to be 20 years ago in Fortaleza (and other parts of Brasil). Back then, the program girls would hang out in the same bars and restaurants as the pro's, but where the pro's would set a price for their services up front, before going off to do the deed (they preferred STR, but would negotiate for TLN), the program girls would rarely, if ever discuss money - they preferred a LTR where the guy would basically take care of them as long as they were together. The GDP, was essentially a "girlfriend for hire", but her payment was usually in material goods rather than cash. Many of the GDP's would actually get upset if you gave them cash. They would happily accept gifts (pair of shoes, clothes, etc), they would accompany you to dinner, clubs, etc. But, if you tried to pay them off with cash, they would act hurt and say something to the affect of "outro programma" or "I'm on another program". If you wanted to give them cash, you had to say it was so she could pay for the taxi home (then she'd take the bus and pocket the rest), or tell her to buy herself a present. Somewhere through the years, the definition of a GDP seems to have shifted to include any woman who has sex for money, whether she's as described above, or strictly professional or semi-pro.
Most of the GDP's I knew, way back when, were from Fortaleza or villages in the surrounding area. They would work as pro's in Belem or Manaus for 2 or 3 months per year, save up enough money to live on in Fortaleza for the rest of the year, while living the life of a GDP in hopes of snagging a husband. They would typically do this for a few years before they became jaded and headed south to Rio or Sao Paolo, where they would become a full fledged/ full time professional in the Major Leagues of Prostitution - life as a GDP in Fortaleza was essentially considered the Prostitution Minor Leagues.
CW
Silent,
That is a very good analysis you did of Fortaleza and Rio de Janeiro/Sao Paulo. There are many gringos who are not as astute as you, so I have to commend you on your sharp observations of Brazilian life.
Yes, life in the Nordeste, and particularly Fortaleza (which due to its tourism and European flights has become very cosmopolitan) is strikingly different than Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paulo. The people are simpler, life is slower, prices are cheaper (if they are not, then you are probably getting ripped off!), and the women are more..."naive"...although you must still stay on your toes. While a woman from Rio may see you as a customer or even worse, a "mark", a girl from Fortaleza is more likely to see you as a "shining knight."
So as a previous poster said, the total package of Fortaleza does really provide a very positive experience. Where else can you eat crab and beer all day long, enjoy the most beautiful beaches in Brazil, and have beautiful 18 year old morena beauty suck your dick (BBBJ) on demand and replace her with another one every day if you wish?
I will be heading to Forteleza the last week of November. I'll be there two weeks. I will stay at the Sunflower-hotel. I have not read of any reports about atm machines. Are they available? Also, can anyone recommend a guide or is one necessary?
Thanks BigEl and Dutchie 525!
I will take your advice and maximize my Fortaleza Trip. I met a girl from Latineuro who lives there so if the monger scene is slow, I'll have her.
Thanks again!
Adultj,
There are ATMs in the banks and some brazilian banks do service US or foreign accounts, but at a surcharge. If you don't have an account with HSBC, I suggest you get a checking account with a Master Debit card. They have an enormous number of bank branches in Brazil and the ATM withdrawl is at market rates with out a surcharge.
The Sunflower is nice, but they charge a fee for each garota you bring back to the room. A few blocks down is the Continental which also has a pool and they don't charge for the girl (as of 2002).
Good luck
Garotoz
I spent a few months in and around Fortaleza recently and I'll been following along with this discussion. Now that my account has been upgraded and I can post, here is my two cents:
The good points:
1.) Absolutely gorgeous weather. If you go in "dry season" (May-November) this place has absolutely the best weather of anywhere I've ever been in the world. 80-85F degrees every day, cooling sea breeze, not humid, and no clouds or rain. In two months there, it was only cloudy for about 30 minutes. The sun is strong enough to get a nice tan but not so bad to be a risk of burning every day.
2.) Beautiful beaches in Ceará, outside of Fortaleza. MILES of pristine, untouched beaches. The sand and the water aren't as nice as the Caribbean, but these beaches completely natural and gorgeous. It almost looks wrong how undeveloped they are.
3.) It's cheap. If you think Rio is affordable, go here.
4.) Adventure/extreme sports. Good place for any sort of surfing, wind or kite surfing, trekking, 4x4, paragliding, etc.
5.) The beachwalk in Fortaleza is nice. Praia Meireles/Iracema has a beachwalk that I feel is every bit as nice as Rio's, with the kiosks, bars, and people working out.
The bad points:
1.) The people are damn ugly. In my personal opinion, I did not see an attractive looking native in my two months there. While many claim that beauty a subjective personal preference and YMMV, I believe that there are certain characteristics of beauty that are the same in every culture (symmetry, youth, health, fertility, fitness, status, etc.) and these folks just do not have them. Additionally, the locals of The Northeast seem to be quite discriminated against by other Brazilians for being stupid, slow, and lazy. I also heard a great deal about how ugly their accent is, which I cannot appreciate myself. I can only imagine that going to Fortaleza is like going to back-water Arkansas for someone from NYC or LA.
2.) The mongering scene is not impressive. There are no termas in Fortaleza. There are only two sites worth checking out: "Betty" or Pousada Aconxego is a 45 minute cab ride out of town. It is decent because they don't let girls from Ceará work there. It's a mix of girls from Bahia, Rio, The South, and a few other states. The other, Whisky Club, is a take-out bar in Fortaleza that also has a mix of out-of-state girls. In either, you're likely to find something to keep you happy for a few days, but this place is no Rio. In my opinion, the often mentioned square of clubs (Kapital, Afrika, etc.) in the heart of the tourist section of town is not even worth going to. It is probably the most awful display of mongering I've ever seen in the world. The only thing more shocking than the lack of quality in the local girls is the horde of young, good-looking, and stylish Italian and Dutch mongers that flock here for some unknown reason. Only go mongering in these clubs if you're the type of guy likely to be pleased with the bottom 20% of Help!
Khoofoo, you are a damn right, I have the same oppinion about Fortaleza like you. It´s a good place to spend holiday, but the locals are ugly like hell. The people are in average very small, girls have a beer belly instead of a backside, the head is right on the shoulder, without a neck and something similar like a waist is unknown there.
Khoofoo,
You wrote down with incredible accuracy my opinions of many trips down there.
The things about young Italians and Dutchmen are the same I wrote some times ago in this same thread.
Glad not to be the only one.
Sometimes I felt sad when I saw some early 20's guys with the ugliest *****s available in the Kapital or around Iracema.
It's cheap, that's true. But nothing more.
PS: A good friend of mine living there since 1994 died in an attempted robbery in avenida Abolicao some weeks ago. His name was Maurizio (short, blonde hair, tanned face italian), and he rented apts and changed money down there. For those who remember him. He was a good unlucky guy. R.I.P.
Hi,
I will be heading to Forta the first 3 weeks of November. It is my second trip this year. Any other dudes who want to drink a beer in that period, just let me know.
I don't understand the repeated dismissing of Fortaleza. It's got one of the best sex scenes in Brasil. I've been there twice (a week each time), and on any given night you've got about 500 girls to choose from, all in the 100R range. Motels abound, drinks are cheap, weed, all-nighters, funky music flip-flops and menage a trois for 150R. WTF? No crime to speak of, no taxis to take, etc.
I think it's the best small-town scene in Brasil. It compares to Rio and S.P. w/o all the b.s. Really. Read my earlier reports. I think I stretched about 20 girls there over the period of a week. All very cute, too -- and I have high standards (e.g. I wouldn't do most of the women posted on the "photos" board -- but that's just me).
JW
JWadd,
Maybe they're trying to scare people off so they can have it all to theirself.
My old stomping grounds (Fortaleza) are definitely at the top of my list of foreign destinations to visit whenever I get my business sorted out so I can start travelling again. I haven't been there since sometime before they built the McDonalds and Pirata's was a brand new club.
CW
Guys,
I have to step down from what I said much earlier about Fortaleza. (been there in febr. 2003 for 3 weeks)
Sure purely as a sex scene it's heaven...cheap...many women...beach...parties etc.etc...God I truly loved it.
But IF you realy are looking for quality women and dito looks you are at the WRONG place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you realy want to see (and fuck!)pretty girls go at least down to Rio,SP or at least to Recife.
Not to mention Colombia,Venezuela,Peru or Dom. Republic..!!
Johan
PS:that doesn't mean I am bashing Fortaleza! Far from it. But for me it was ONCE and never again.
Johan007,
I haven't been to Brasil for 15 years for a multitude of reasons I won't go into here. Just have a lot of fond memories. I know things have changed immensely in that time, but way back when, I preferred Fortaleza over Rio due to the more relaxed atmosphere - Rio was just too big for me, too many people trying to rip you off, etc. Fortaleza however, while it is also quite large, always seemed like a small town to me. Besides, many of the girls on Copacabana got their start picking up guys at the Biera Mar barraccas in Fortaleza. I used to drink at Mabs when passing through Rio (Used to have at least a 12 hour layover in Rio when flying in from the USA, headed for Fortaleza) - at least half of the girls that hung out around there were from Fortaleza - only difference was they were a bit more jaded and they charged 3 or 4 times as much because "this is Rio".
I've never been to Peru or the Dominican Republic, but I would say that my one trip to Cartagena Colombia, while loads of fun, was less enjoyable than Fortaleza - lack of familiarity? I lived in Fortaleza for almost two years, only spent a week in Cartagena. Same goes for Venezuela (spent two weeks - two different one week trips - in La Guaira, with a few trips up the hill to Caracas), lots of fun, but not as relaxing as Fortaleza.
CW
More than once I wrote about this issue. Fortaleza was the only place I went in Brazil, and perhaps this is stupid, but if I return to Brazil , I will go to Forta again.
I liked many things, I felt safe, I even travelled in the local buses, when I rented a car, things were ok also, I just had to pass with the red light at night!
Things were definitly cheap, the food, the lodging (an apartment), and of course the highest price for a girl was 100r, and I really think i could have payed less (this was 1 year ago), I just was not in a mood to argue and the price seemed reasonable.
It was a really nice time, but, I have to be honest, the quality of the girls was really lower than my expectations, so i felt compelled to write again, and agree with people like johan 007.
Perhaps one day I will go to Rio see what is good quality.
So, if you are wondering about where to go in Brazil you just have balance all issues (prices, girls quality, safety), and make up your decision.
Hi friends!
If someone could help me it would be highly appreciated. I'm looking for an apartment to rent in Fortaleza during December.
Anyone can recommend an agency or a website or have a phone number?
I can pay no more then 70 reais anight!?
Thanks you all.
Have a great time!
Hi Cash works,
I was in Cartagena too last year in october for 4 weeks.
Due to circumstances (I was at that time engaged with a colombian girl) I could NOT monger. (she never let me out of sight for more then 30min..!!) HOWEVER the streetvendors in Cartagena are a MAYOR PAIN IN THE AZZ!!!!!GEE I hated them....:-(
I found also Cartagena very relaxing and never I felt unsafe or threatend by locals. (but then again I speak spanish and travel low profile)
Sure Forta has to offer many great things....the food was indeed very cheap but compared to the variaty of the colombian cuisine it was rather average. (I like the idea of the socalled "kilo-restaurants"in Forta...!!)
Lodging was far cheaper in Forta then it was in Cartagena..!!!!
But on the "fiesta"side...I realy doubt that fortaleza can beat this. I found many Brasil girls quite agressive...in Cartagena they are more relaxed.
However the beach was far better in Fortaleza then in Cartagena...but this is IMHO.
However in Fortaleza I saw more hoorehouses,...which I like more then pick up a girl from the street.
If you stay in the coties in Colombia it is "safe"....however I made a busride (to sobral) in Brasil...which lasted 4.5 hours.(one trip) In Colombia I would never have done this. The "travel-by-land_ situation is just too unsure and too dangerous for gringos. (and even sometimes for colombians too!!)
One backdraw must be made to Rio (and also SP)....those places are MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE!!! Lodging,food...and certainly the hooks are far more costly. And yes...the women there TEND to be more picky then in Fortaleza...;-)
Did you ever try DR for ST sex holiday????? I think girls there are far more pretty then in Fortaleza...and the prices are only a little higher. Besides that you can have girls from pich black...up untill neary as white as I am...and all in between!!
Johan.
Johan007,
I definitely had a good time when I was in Cartagena, casinos & clubs were definitely unlike what was available at that time in Fortaleza. I really liked the hotel I was in, the "Caribe hotel" or something like that, it's an older hotel with a lot of character. I had a "Jr. Suite" in the old section of the hotel. Large room with a king-sized bed on a raised dais with a perfect view to the shower, which had a glass wall separating the shower from the bedroom, so after having sex with your girl, you could lay in bed watching her take a shower, nice show!
One of the things that made my time there less enjoyable was the kidnapping issue - Cartagena, at that time (1988) was the safest place in Colombia, but everywhere else, gringo's were getting kidnapped - even in the cities, Rio Hacha was the worst apparently, so I guess that may have been lurking in the back of my mind.
Back then, Fortaleza may have had a few, as you say "hoorehouses", but I generally got all my girls off the beach (Biera Mar) or occassionally from Africas (Club, which I think is still there, but maybe in a new location?). I didn't really like Africas that much, it had a low ceiling and was always very crowded, which made me kind of claustrophobic. I found it more relaxing to hang out at a barracca on the beach or Baio de Dois (a restaurant/bar which I don't think is there anymore) and pick up the girls when they came out of Africas for a bit of fresh air.
I've never been to the DR, but I've been thinking about it since it's closer. A non-mongering friend of mine used to go to Cabrete every year for wind-surfing & always tried to get me to go, but I always had a conflict when he was heading that way.
CW
Johan007,
Ciao if I understood well in your opinion, Recife is better about women than Forta? I was in Recife 23 days in march 03, and I saw only few women about 8-9 rate, most of them about 5-6.
And the only good place was Sampa.
There I met a group of guys came from Forta and they told me that much better in Forta, more clubs, better quality of women.
So I am thinking to comeback there and not to Rio, so how you compare Forta and Recife?
Thanks,
Luca
Hello guys
I am planning to visit fortaleza for the second time this year. I will stay the first 3 weeks of november. I have rented a large appartment with 2 seperate bathrooms and sleep chamber.
(privacy guarenteed)
It is located at at the Beira Mar.
It is really at a top location.
If somebody is interested send me a PM for the details.
Hi Johan, old house how are you?
@Lukasek
About Forta and Recife. Forta has a much bigger scene, but from the quality of girls I prefer Recife. With quality I mean that in Recife are the more pretty girls. From performace I would say that both are equal. Beach and prices for Lodging is in Forta better.
I was several times in Forta and I liked the most to pick up the girls in the clubs, like Desequal, Africas, Cafe del Mar, etc. It was not difficult to found there a girl, often they approach me, but it was difficult for me to find a very good looking girl. They have many girls in the range from 3 - 6 some 7 and only a few 8 or better.
Such girls had mostly long time clients and they were often surrounded by many customer. Was not easy to get them. I often went at home without a girl, just because I don't want take a girl whose I found not pretty.
In Recife the scene was much smaller, but the girls were more pretty and so I had every nigth a good looking girl.
So from point of quality sex, Recife is IMHO much better.
Has anything changed on this? Last time I was in Brazil, my travel agent was saying something about that they were maybe going to have direct flights from the US to Fortaleza. It is a pain to go all the way down to SP just to come up again. I would like to do a US-Rio-Forta-US circuit.
Thanks for any info.
Whats happen to forta, is realy bad now.The girls the service is realy bad, not many girls and they ask 100 reais some 200 for 15min or max 30min of program, dont go there.
Is this true ? . Can you be more specific, patata chips ?
Reports haven't been so negative .....
What you think about more specific?
I can say now the girls are more like europe standard for the time for the quality of sex and the quality of the girls are realy bad, and the quantity are half of 2 years ago.
In a night you can see about 200 girls but no more then 5 are 7 in quality or over and they ask 200 reais for no more then 1 hour.
Need more information?
I think you lying Patata Chips,ok the quality its not like rio but its really ok.And you say the girls want 200 for 1 hour thats bullshit,Every girls i met stay over the night and i pay 50-100.But its ok that you say that because it keep the tourists away from fortaleza.I dont want alot of tourists in fortaleza,And especially not rich americans.I dont want that fortaleza become like rio in prices,its so expensive in rio.
Thanks all posters on the forum for the excellent info. Especially silent, johan007 and Jose marcia.
Will go to Forta the 28 nov and will stay 4 weeks, anyone want to go barhopping feel free to pm me, and we hock up.
Will post a report when i get back.
See ya
I have talked enough about the low quality of the girls in forta, but 200 R$ for one hour it really seems overpriced, in terms of the situation 1 year ago.
We will wait for other reports to confirm this new data.
February in Forta or in Pattaya? Any suggestion? I was in Recife and many times in Russia, like the ocean and the beach life of Brazil, but I like best russian women, so dear members some suggestion will be greatly accepted!
Regards
Spent a week in Fortaleza in mid November and was very impressed - I had heard horror stories about how the scene had deteriorated there and found them to be untrue. The bars and restaurants around Praia Iracema were jumping. Lots and lots of gals going back and forth between the different bars, before ending up at Kapital late at night - at least two hundred plus chicas to choose from each night. It was great to sit on a second floor of a open air restaurant, watching the parade of garotas below, going from bar to bar, looking for targets to hit.
If you are looking for tall, thin, white skinned blondes, I would not recommend Fortaleza. Most of the women were rather short (155-170 cm - 5' to 5'6") and had skin ranging from very light brown to dark brown and hair in various shades of brown and black as well (a few peroxide blonds too). I would rate the gals at about 66% in the 4-6 range and 33% in the 7-8 range with a couple of 9's in there as well. However, with 200+ garotas each night, there were more than enough gems to go around. I found that, some nights, it would only take me 5 minutes to spot several garotas worth pursuing, and on other nights, it would take me 30 minutes. Most were the 18-24 age range.
Most spent the night, but a few left at about 5 a.m. to get home before their kid(s) woke up. Depending on when they left, and how good looking they were (whether they were 7s, 8s, or 9s) I would pay them between R120-200. GFE was had with all of them.
Having done several diffent garotas, I finished up my last couple of days with a gorgeous little medium brown skinned 19 yr old that I met at Kapital - she was about 158 cm, 45 kg (5'2", 100lbs) and loved sex. Paid her R400 total from midnight on Saturday night until noon on Monday. Lost count of how many times we had sex over those two days and nights, GFE the whole way. Spent Sunday afternoon with her at Praia Futuro. She cried when she left on Monday, as I was packing my bags for the airport.
Praia Futuro on the west side of town was great to hang out at during the day. Lots of great bach front bars to hang out at. I recognized lots of garotas de programa hanging out there as well. I also recognized many garotas during the day shopping on Av Monseiur Tabosa, the main shopping street about four blocks in from Praia Iracema.
It is a different scene than Rio or Sao Paulo, but a fun one none the less.
[QUOTE=Montecristo]I have talked enough about the low quality of the girls in forta, but 200 R$ for one hour it really seems overpriced, in terms of the situation 1 year ago. We will wait for other reports to confirm this new data.[/QUOTE]I was in Fortaleza for a week in mid November - I don't agree that the quality of girls was low. And anyone who pays R200 for an hour is a fool who needs to learn to negotiate. If you are looking for tall, thin, white skinned blonds, I would forget Fortaleza. But if you want a fun time, a great bar scene, inexpensive sex, and some great beaches, try Fortaleza.
The bar scene around Praia Iracema at night was a blast. Lots of girls walking the streets, and going back and forth between the various bars along Rua Dos Tabajaras, before ending up at Kapital. The women in Fortaleza tended to be short (150-165 cm; 5'-5'6" or so) and have very light brown to dark brown skin. They were mostly latina looking, with very few white skinned or black skinned/afro-brazilian garotas. The garotas also were quite young, 18-24 or so in age, but many had obviously had had a kid. I would rate the women to be about 66% in the 4-6 range, and 33% in the 7-8 range with a few 9's thrown there in as well. But with more than 300+ garotas working each night, there were more than enough beauties to meet the demand. I had no problem finding several likely candidates to pursue - some nights it may have taken 2 minutes, other nights it took 10 minutes, to spot several beauties to pursue.
I regularly picked up thin good looking 18-20 years old (in the 8 range), paying them R100-120 for the night, with the total cost depending on looks and how long they stayed. Most stayed all night - from midnight - 1 a.m. until about 9 a.m. or so, but two wanted to leave at about 5 a.m. so they to get home before their baby/kid work up. Negotiated all of this up front, and they got less money - as it is harder to do a morning quickie at 5 a.m. than at 9 a.m.
I also met up with a great looking 19 year old with dark brown skin and long black hair. She was about 155cm and 45 kg (5"1", 100 lbs). We were together from Saturday night until noon on Tuesday when I left for the airport (she did go home briefly to get different clothes). I paid her R300 total for those three nights, plus paid for her food and drinks when we ate. We spent all day Sunday at Praia Futuro, went out to dinner, etc, etc. I lost track of how many times we had sex over those days and nights. She was always eager for more, and cried when I had to leave for the airport.
I will agree that the scene in Fortaleza does not compare to the overall quality one would find in the most expensive, high-end boites/thermas of Rio and Sampa (especially if you like white skinned blonds), but there are lots of gems to be found in Fortaleza at great prices.
Remember, those girls are models -- and benfit from makeup, lighting, air brushing, etc. A friend of a friend (he's German) claims to have dated Claudia Schiffer's sister when he lived in Germany. This guy's a crazy-rich 6'6" pro-skiing German who I've personally seen land a bunch of 8s and 9s -- so I believe it. The point is (and he always talks about it) is that the prettiest girls -- the ones who can have anyone at anytime -- consistently want what they can't have. Play a little hard-to-get and you'll get 'em every time. Boy did I get off the subject!
HH,
JW
Hello Mongers!
I have just read a breaking news in an Italian website about a police crackdown both in Fortaleza and Italy. The crackdown is connected to the sex tourism in Brazil.
It seems that some Italian policemen, in collaboration with the Policia Federal of Brazil, travelled in Fortaleza in November under coverage, acting as normal sex tourists.
The policemen attended all the bar/sex scene in Fortaleza for some weeks, taking pictures and videorecording the people with the garotas.
It seesms that they also discovered a network of prostitution involving minors.
The Italian and the Brazilian police arrested today some people connected with the sex-tourism business (also some travel agents) both in Brazil and Italy. They also arrested some tourists accusing them of having looked for sex with minors.
The crackdown is still in action.
As the Italian media always look for scandalistic news of this type also to keep away the public opinion from the discussion on the actual political and economic problems of the country and as many policemen and procurators know that they can easily gain glory, media exposure and career advantages with this type of operations, I would expect a big noise on the media about this story.
The risk, for some mongers, is to be involved in the police operation and maybe face a judgement even if they were not involved with the prostitution network and never had sex with minors.
There is also another risk: to appear in TV in any pseudo-journalistic broadcast claiming to denounce the sex tourism in Brazil. For sure the videotapes recordered by the police will be passed to the media to give more visibility to this police crackdown and to give more glory to the policemen/procurators who prepared this crackdown.
I think that sex between responsible and legal aged people (for money or just for pleasure doesn't matter), is a free and personal choice, which should not interest the governments and the law enforcement. That's why I advice the people travelling for sex to be always wise and responsible, avoiding every possible involvement with minors.
If you are not sure about the age of the girl, always check her ID. Be careful that in Brazil and especially in Fortaleza there are many fakes ID, used by minors that want to enter the bar scene but are not of the legal age.
Brazil is full of beautiful girls who are in the business and are of legal age too, it doesn't worth to risk.
The Brazilian government, since Mr. Lula is the President, is now trying to give a different international image of Brazil, and it's trying to kill the idea that Brazil is a sex tourism paradise, expecially in the Nordeste, and especially in Fortaleza.
Of course, the mayor problem in Brazil is not the sex tourism: the growing violence in the country (more than 60000 homicides this year), the high corruption rate of the political and social institutions, the poverty and the inequal distribution of the revenues, the ecological disasters in Amazzonia, are all problems which are much more important than some middle-aged Americans or Europeans who arrive in the country looking for cheap sex.
We also have to notice that the sex industry targeted to the international tourists is just the smallest part of the whole sex business in the country: Brazil is full of prostitutes of all ages everywhere, and most of them are for Brazilians customers.
But this type of police operations can give the international public opinion the idea that Brazil is really changing: it's a real cheap commercial advertise for Brazil.
So I would expect other crackdowns of this type in the next months.
Of course these crackdowns will not stop the sex business: most of the girls who are involved support whole families with the earnings made with the tourists and they know that attending the bar scene is the only way to have a better life and, maybe, one day marry a wealthy American or European, the same that gaining the lottery, for a poor girl in Brazil.
So Mongers, pay attention, be always wise, and always have fun respecting the law.
Here are some pics of two Fortaleza garotas I did while there. Both of them are thin, cute 20 years olds with nice tight bodies. I had all night sessions with each of them for about R100-120. I would rank both of them as "8s".
As I noted in my earlier report, there are good looking garotas in Fortaleza - quite a few gems amongst all of the various available gals there.
Hi mongers,
I am from Italy, from Roma as my alias suggests.
Every Italian newspaper and magazine shows on the first page texts and pictures about this Italian-Brazilian police action.
Same in the TV.
Sexual tourism - it doesn't matter if it is with legal aged people or not - is now described in these media as one of the most abominable vice in the developed world.
Media report of horrible 50 - 60 y.o. men taking advantage of poor unemployed women forced to be prostitutes and selling their body for a piece of bread .
Otherwhere you can read of family's fathers neglecting their own families in Italy to spend the all money for frequent journeys to Brazil and continuing sending money to the local prostitutes when back at home!
Of course a lot of pictures, testimonies, interviews.
The Italian police is now oriented to investigate also in Cuba,Thailand,S.Domingo and wherever Italians are used to spend holidays.
Top notch girls, dude. :)
Hi guys,
I would like to ask some questions to the experts.
Is it easy to pick up girls for sex on the beach during the day?
How much for 1 hour with an escort service?
Are there some apartments for sex like in Rio? What about the price?
Thanks in advance guys.
I will be interested in reading any suggestion about better place than Fortaleza in Brazil or any other countries in South America or Central America.
I hate to impose on anyone's vacation, but you never know when someone will check in. If so, please try to give us an available up-date on the mood and ternor of how things are going in Fortaleza, considering all this new bad press.
I doubt if any of this will slow down the influx of Itillian tourists over the hollidays. Tickets are already bought, reservations and deposits are made or have been paid. But still, I do wish that they'd stop picking on Fortaleza, one of my favorite destinations. I've been going there for years and years and have seen many changes, but it still remains a happy place for me. Especially at New Years.
This news doesn't affect me directly. I tend to make my own way, so I should be fine, but the new high profile presence of even the Local Police I have found to be intimidating (which is why I left Natal after a couple of days)...with police everwhere eagle eying you for just being a single man...well, it does take the wild fun quotient out of the equation.
I've written about this in Fortaleza also, in June, I believe. It is just weird for the Police to be standing outside of Cafe do Mar or across from the Europa Bar at formal parade rest. So you leave with a couple of babes on your arms and...it is just an unconfortable feeling.
I still, unlike most people, have the option of bailing out on this trip over Xmas and New Years if I want. Maybe go back later when things are a little more normal.
Any thoughts on the situation or up-dates would be appreciated.
Thanks
Gauguin
Find other hot sides. But out of Fortaleza cause Lula and some italian judges lookin'for easy glory.
In Italy in the least yers it's a normal use of many policemen and lawman and journalist to find easy glory in a "war"against prostitution as if prostitution is the first world problem. So now Italy is a very hard nation to find cheap *****s for men.and now they are exporting this easy crusade in many world reknown hotsides as Cuba and Brasil with ilegal and hpocit investigation.
Yes evey cop and politicman in Italy goes with *****s , but of the very expensives and prived clubs, so they are not afected by this war against the chepers *****s for normal men.
Italy is a shit nation where is every day worse to live for a monger man. all is puritanism. And now they are also exporting this puritan style!
Writen by a man living in Florence!
Is Fortaleza still interesting to pick up girls on the beach or in bars?
Does it worth to go there for 1 month? Or any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
[QUOTE=Volpone]Hi guys,
I would like to ask some questions to the experts.
Is it easy to pick up girls for sex on the beach during the day?
How much for 1 hour with an escort service?
Are there some apartments for sex like in Rio? What about the price?
Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]Thread,
Yes you can just lay down at the beach and the babes will all over you. Price is around R$100.
You can rent an apartment easily for the duration of your stay. Some hotels / pousadas allow guests, but do ask before. Otherwise you can go to a motel for an hour.
Thank you very much for your answer.
So if I understand well, it's easy during the day?
Do you have some web adresses to rent an apartment?
Thanks in advance..
I went there one year ago, and one of the things i regret is the fact i never went to a Motel.
There were so many.
Some people told me some of them were quite impressive and a good thing to try.
Does anybody has sometinhg to say about the Forta Motels ?
Thanks in advance
Yes, I mention a few of them in my old reports. There's nothing to them -- no girls or opium dens -- you bring a girl there and hose them down for about 10USD in room fees. Are you asking about something else?
JW
I spent the first three weeks of December in Fortaleza and I will try to summarize an update for the firstimers.
To start with get your self a room at the Ibis hotel R59 single, R69 double for one or two nights until you check a few apartments and choose what is best for you.
Check with agencies that are located on Abolishao Ave for an apartment of your taste. The best place to stay is on Avenida Beira Mar just on the beachfront. It is a pity that the sea is not clean enough for swimming there.
My wingman arrived early morning and had enough time to see several until my arrival late afternoon same day.
We finally used the services of FLAT SHOP. Carmen the owner and her sister Andriana are very sufficient and are working on European standards.
We got ourselves a very nice apartment for a ridiculous price.
Two bedrooms with individual baths (suites), living room with kitchenette and most important a small but very nice veranda with a fantastic sea view for only R90/day for both of us. 25 euros with daily room cleaning and linen change twice per week plus free parking space. Fantastic deal!
We also rent a car for our whole stay. It was a brand new fiat with only 1800 km on it. Price was R55 daily with 200km free/day.
We also took third party coverage for an extra R10 daily.
The mongering scene is on Iracema next to the tourist police station.
Forget the beachfront bars. They are all closed and the action moved one-road inwards. It seems to me that someone is trying to buy the area for peanuts and eventually build a hotel or something like that.
Action starts at ZIPIE bar at about 22:00 at later on moves to the bars like
Europa, café del mar etc. They are all there next to each other. To my opinion there are about 300 girls moving around. The quality is medium to low. At least to my taste. Forget what you have seen in Rio, Salvador, Florianopolis etc.
You will be very lucky if you manage to get a 6+ and if you do stick to her for a few days because it will be difficult to find another one.
Asking price is usually R100 but they will go for a R70. The better ones ask for R150 but will settle for R120-130.
Streetwalkers on Abolishao av. near the Habibs fast food. Price R50.
Watches out there are travesties both on Abolishao and Iracema.
Earlier in the evening there are a few pro’s walking up and down the Beira Mar. You will see them later on in the Zipie bar.
There is a third group of girls slightly of better quality that do not go to those clubs.
Every day there is action in a different place.
Mondays at Pirata
Tuesdays at Arreaguia ( or something like that. Small place so be there by 21:00 hrs, nice buffet)
Wednesdays at Armagen
Thursdays at Orbitos and Brasileirino and at Crocobeach and other barracas at Praia Futuro. It is crab night.
Fridays & Saturdays at Mucuripe club.
Sundays at Dragao do Mar at the bar do Bixica and Orbitos
All the above places, except Dragao do mar, have an entrance fee of 20-30 Reais. Currently, on average, 1 usd=2,8 and 1 Euro=3,5 Reais
Armagen, Orbitos, and Brasileirino are close to each other at the Dragao do Mar square and within walking distance from the pro scene.
Orbitos gathers young people 16-24 years. I saw the most beutifull girls of Fortaleza there. Long que thaugh.
That third group of pro girls is gathering at these places trying to hook on customers in a different GFE way. They can ask for higher prices but they will go for R150 or so. They have to cover the entrance fee to these places after all.
During the day hang around at the different barracas on Futuro beach. The most famous are Crocobeach, Cocobeach and Quarangeiso (crab).
Try also Cumbuco but you need a car for that one.
Finally Fortaleza is for vacationers and easygoing people. It would be perfect if you could swim the way I do in the Greek waters. Unfortunately the sea waves are strong. Small scale Tsunamis.
Have fun and PM me for any more info.
El Greco
Thanks a lot for your informations.
Is it possible to get girls on the beach during the day time?
Do you think that Rio would be much better?
Well I am not allowed to edit my post so I have to submit another.
I made a mistake the other day. The street where the agencies are is not Abolishao. It is Mon Senhor Tabosa.
Actually it is the extension of Abolishao beyond Habib´s fast food towards the city cender. But it has a different name.
The agencies are near number 100.
El Greco
You can find girls every where.
Crocobeach, Cocobeach and Quarangeuso are frequented by most pro girls.
That is because the tourist are going there.
But beleive you me you can stop any woman anywhere and start talking to them. You must not shaw right from the begining that your only interest is to take them to bed.
One Friday night in Mucuripe club there was a real good looking girl. Tall blond a good 8+.
So my wing man approaches her and tells her that we were in the shoe business on a business trip and that by looking at her shoes we came to the conclusion that her shoes were not Brasilian and most propably were Italian made.
She starts laughing she says yes they are Italian that she bought them from Sao Paulo and that she was Paulista.
As you can see she got the bate. My friend did not manage, finally, to get her to bed but he was flirting with her all night having a good time and I lost 50 Reais.
That was my bet that his conversation with her will not last for more than 10 minutes. And we both have nothing to do with the shoe business.
So give them a try in a polite manner and most probably you will score.
It really seems an accurate report, and things dont seem to have changed very much, from 1 year ago.
Those news of police crackdown, haven't affected the whole scene.
Let me ask you a question, Greco, would you repeate Forta in a future trip? Or would you look for other places, it is the eternal question, evertything seems good, the prices, the safety, but the girls quality, is a bit disappointing.
Thanks a lot for your answer el Greco, that's nice of you.
What about Iracema?
Are the beaches, that you mentioned, in Iracema or near Iracema?
Does someone has tried escort in Fortaleza?
Well, after 5 days in Fortaleza (two with bro Junior), I've got to say that maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. Or maybe my standards have dramatically risen. Or maybe the scene has headed south too much. Dunno.
Over four trolling nights in Iracema (the tourist hang-out/sex disco area), I saw two fights, a pickpocketing, an adolescent drug overdose (way too young, like 6-7 years old), etc., etc.
The place has gotten rougher and the girls have declined in quality. All those little kids are beggars AND pickpockets, F.Y.I. Pay attention to your valuables, and clamp your hands down over your pockets in dense crowds.
Anyway, as always, the scene starts late (around midnight) and goes 'til dawn. The party ends at the Kapital disco. The girls cross the street from the other places and enter Kapital around 2 a.m. No facilties anywhere, though there are over-priced sex motels/pousadas to be found here and there. The best in the area is Motel Village.
Girls, though, are still cheap. 100R is the average, with +/- 25-50R variations depending on girl.
On average, it took me 2+ hours every night to find a girl of suitable quality (beauty, attitude, value, etc.). Girls are younger (25 or younger) and inexperienced. I should say, though, that there are 7s and 8s to be found. But, while they're 5-10% of the Rio/S.P. garota population, they're around 1-2% here.
I did not try the SWs this time, but they were out in force in Beira Mar in front of the usual places (Banco do Brasil, Pizza Hut, etc.). They line that main road one up from the beach starting around 11-ish.
Junior and I did make one new Fort. discovery: The Whisky Bar (that's how it's spelled). It's a locals hang-out -- a sort of bar/lounge with girls sitting around, etc. Pretty standard. Junior and I agreed that there weren't any girls worthy of the WSG service, so we didn't find out any of the particulars. I'd expect to to be the usual (i.e., 100R or so for sex, 25R quartos on site, etc.). There's supposed to be another brothel in town, but we didn't bother to look into it.
Also, many girls to be found during the day sitting in the outside beach bars in Beira Mar.
In the end, I'd have to call it an "Aliens vs. Predator" type of scene. Problem is, I'm not sure who's playing which role at any given time. Oh well.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
Volpone,
The names mentioned are "barracas" along the Futuro beach.
Barracas are restaurants/bars with beach chairs for free.
Praia do Futuro is the main clean beach of Fortaleza.
Iracema is not that clean so I`avoided it.
Also try Praia do Cumpuco some 30km out of the city.
El Greco
Fellows,
Just a quick update on my visit to Fortaleza with Jwadd. To put it simply we were supposed to stay there for five days, but I bailed for Rio after two nights as the scene in Fortaleza was not to my liking.
The clubs and areas mentioned in Jwadds reports were only open at night, ie. after 11. Daytime activities seemed limited to whatever you could find at the beach or getting a phonenumber from a girl you liked during the nightly visit to one of the clubs and then arranging a get-together the following afternoon.
The quality of the girls was very low in my honest opinion. I am probably way too spoiled by many trips to RJ and SP by now, but the majority of girls I saw at the Fortaleza clubs did not meet my minimum requirements for getting a night with Junior.
But if you fancy getting hit on by a large number of short and unattractive women this might be the place for you.
Another issue for a northener like me is the damn humidity in Fortaleza - way too hot and humid.
I would recommend using the parthenon meirelles apart-hotel if you decide to go. It has very nice appartments and is quite cheap. They do charge R30 for visitor, but is otherwise fully girl friendly.
JWadd,
Maybe you can help me out with something. Or maybe some of you other guys can.
I've been hearing reports, nothing firm, mind you, that the new anti-sexual tourism campaign in Forteleza and Recife has resulted in the creating of a new scam. I'd like to hear if anyone's seen or heard of this scam being run.
Basically, the girl claims she's a minor AFTER sex and threatens to "fazer um escándalo" unless the guy pays extra. The Forteleza cops claim to be busting 180 gringos a month on "sex-with-minors" raps and I'm wondering how much of this might be the result of this scam.
If anyone's heard of this or been the victim of it, please speak up!
hey macunaima,
if one sticks to the garotas hanging out inside the various bars near pria iracema (such as kapital, etc) then you will have no problems with a garota trying to pull a "sex with minors" scam. in order to get into those places, the girls need to show id - and the clubs don't want to lose their licenses by letting **** girls in - so you know that you can safely pickup these girls without having to worry about a scam.
Thanks for the response, Elmo.
Are you noticing a heavier police presence these days?
Much discussion among the local mongers about police harassment or is pretty much calm?
Can anyone tell me about daytime action, where are the places to go, other than the beaches? Are there any Thermas in Fortalaza?
yes, the problem is that if you are on the beach every 2 minutes a girl will approach you. yes they will look and stare and smile at you. this happened on 3 beaches, and you can observe the policia observing you. they sit in this make shift tent umbrella and they only observe you once the girls start approaching. i have witnessed 4 europeans being shaken down for euro's right there as they sat in their chair. the girls would threaten to tell the policia that they have been approached and that they are ****. i seen one particular arguement continue for 20 mins before the police walked over and then they threatened to take the 2 guys away but then they went in to their waist pouch and removed money and handed it to the girl. the girl and the police walked away in the same direction. then they stopped after they walked further up the sidewalk and i seen the police hand the girl something, make money. i don't know it was to far to see. the girls in fortaleza are clearly young or young looking, don't even think about it don't talk to them. do not trust those police on the beach. it seems like the police were setting european men up. i was talking to an italian guy and he said he was getting out of that city because the police kept harrassing him. in this city the women are very aggressive very aggressive. i was sitting down eating at a table near the beach and two women welcome themselves to my table and started to introduce themselves and propositioning me. i had no interst in them but they remained seated and kept talking and asking me to buy them a water or beer. too many 4's and 5's in this city. you will definitely be hassled by the girls and women. prices are cheap but not worth it ($r60 all night). go to the university, that is where the action is, i enjoyed the company of a thin morena marisa for three days. she was a non pro and very affectionate. she invited me back to her place where she was living with 2 other girls. she cooked and took me to the mall. she gave me 3 phone numbers of her friends and said that they are very nice girls and are students working in the shopping mall and need to make more money. the campus atmosphere is much better, the girls there are all 9's and 10's but you must speak portuguese. there is a club called magalina and it will be packed on thursday night. packed with nothing but non-pro action. they will introduce themselves to you and dance and act as if they know you. you will see many italinan guys leaving with women but these are all students and all non -pro.
[blue]hi,
this is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.
i appreciate the details in your report, but i know from experience that a lot of people find it very difficult to read a report that is written as one long block of text. it's kind of like trying to eat an entire steak in one bite.
i know how this happens: you're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. however, if you could hit the return key every few sentences while you're writing, and thus break your report into smaller paragraphs, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow forum members.
thanks,
[i]jackson[/i][/blue]
Hi Guys,
Can anyone recommend a clean, secure Hotel near Praia do Iracema, that is girl friendly and not to expensive $60 max.
Will be arriving on the 13 July, so if any of you guys would like to meet up for a night on the town, PM me.
Langer
Hello,
You have a hotel which corresponds has IRACEMA:
Brisa da praia Hotel
[url]http://www.ceara.com.br/gov.htm[/url]
There is 1 year the price was 90 R$ before the handing-over, 60 R$ afterwards.
It is face has the sea very near but not too of the ZIPPY.
Good Holidays.
Afflicted for my bad English! I will try to make progress!
Problem? No!
I think it´s excellent that the police, in Fortaleza, go down on mongers looking for minors.
Fortaleza had (still has) great problems with, mainly, Italian package-tourists that only are interested in meeting minors. If it wasn´t for these bags of shit the police wouldn´t hassle the tourists in Fortaleza.
[QUOTE=Langer]Can anyone recommend a clean, secure Hotel near Praia do Iracema, that is girl friendly and not to expensive $60 max.
Will be arriving on the 13 July, so if any of you guys would like to meet up for a night on the town, PM me.[/QUOTE]Langer,
I`ll be in for until the 17th of July.
As always, my prefered place to stay is the Pousada of Adriano. Very good rooms, in walking distance of the action, secure and no extra fee for the girls. Adriano is a great guy from Switzerland, picks up his guests at the airport and knows the city very, very well.
The last time I was there he charged me 20 Euro (about 24-25 US$).
I'm not sure if it`s allowed to post telephone numbers here. If so, I will.
Anyway, I'm really looking forward to my trip to Fortaleza, since I haven't been there for a year.
Best wishes,
Mariachi
Sorry if this topic has been addressed, but anyone plan to visit Forteleza at the end of July?
I'd like some first hand reports from anyone who has attended their anual end-of-July celebration that is almost comparable to Carnaval. Anyone know what it is exactly?
Since I missed Carnaval this year, I am thinking about going to this event.
Thanks...
Yos
[QUOTE=Yossarian 99]Sorry if this topic has been addressed, but anyone plan to visit Forteleza at the end of July?
I'd like some first hand reports from anyone who has attended their anual end-of-July celebration that is almost comparable to Carnaval. Anyone know what it is exactly?
Yos[/QUOTE]Hi Yossarian,
Maybe that's right, I really don't know for Fortaleza, but I know there are lots of places in the Nordeste where they have big Carnaval-like celebrations at the end of june.
A few years ago I attended the "festas juninhas" (june celebration) in Recife, and that was really interesting, lots of nice non-pros and really hot action. But you should speak some portuguese.
In Fortaleza, in july, they have the boat race named "Dragão do Mar", on the Mucuripe beach, second or third sunday of july, and then the last weekend of july the "fortal", kind of festa also, but I have no more info about that. Will check with a few friends, maybe someone knows.
Hope this helps,
Carpe diem,
CN.
Well, it is July so I am currently on vacation for 3 weeks from my job in Rio. I decided to come up to the Nordeste to see if there is anything worth checking out up here. Just flew up yesterday, so I just took it easy and checked out the Praia de Iracema area last night. Didn´t go into any clubs, but I have to say that so far I am not impressed. The girls I did see outside and around of Zipi Club looked pathetic, and the Kapital/Europa area didn´t look that great either; kind of reminds me in a way of the Zona area of Tijuana, except probably not as dangerous (I hope). There are many Italians and Germans here it seems like, so I have to assume something good is around. If anyone has any current info on Fortaleza, or is up here right now, let me know.
I know there aren´t any termas up here, but there must be something of quality here, its a city of 2+ million people. I was going to stay here for 3 weeks, but I might leave after 1 and go somewhere else (Natal, João Pessoa, São Luis, etc). Any info is appreciated.
As always, my prefered place to stay is the Pousada of Adriano. Very good rooms, in walking distance of the action, secure and no extra fee for the girls. Adriano is a great guy from Switzerland, picks up his guests at the airport and knows the city very, very well.
Mariachi[/QUOTE]
This guy Adriano has a lot of problems. He is corrupt and he is dealing with some
piranhas. Be careful ...watch your drinks or you will wake up one day later and loosing all your valuables...
[url]http://www.sexomais.com[/url]
NE coast outcall service, product looks good but not cheap. I have not tried this service, so buyer beware.
I came up to the Nordeste after hearing good things about Fortaleza. I´m staying in the Praia de Iracema area. There is very little daytime action here unless you can get number from a girl you like at night and call her. Or amybe meet a girl at the beach but there are not many good looking ones there. The women here are not that hot mainly 5s, quite short, small breasts and big bellys and butts. You will find a good one 7s or 8s if you look for a long time maybe 2/3 hours.
When to Zipi club to meet anoter monger at 23:00 but missed meeting up. Stayed in Zipi for about an hour and had a beer, I was not impressed with the girls there, they looked pathetic.
When to the pier near the Kapital/Europa area, nice area with lots cafes etc lots of parents and kids out for an evening walk etc. Then checked out the Kapital/Europa clubs, very annoying groups of (non pro) girls working for the clubs trying to get you to go into one club or another. There were also lots of street kids around trying to rob the gringos. Many Dutch, German and Italians around, I really don´t know what they see in the place.
Loads of police looking for mongers with minors, I saw two guys stopped, asked for their passports and put in the police car. I think some of the girls set them up. Saw a girl with a photocopy of a guys passport, I think she stole it off him before the cops pulled him.
Anyway left the Kapital/Europa area and was walking back towards Zipi. When I was outside the Subito cafe, I see 100m away a guy shooting!! At what he was shooting I don´t know. He got out of the passenger side of a white car, fired a few rounds and then ran back and he and his mate drove off. It was all over in a couple of minutes. All the cafes staff said was `There are many robberies here`??? Anyway things just carried on as if nothing happened.
Later met a nice looking 20 year old girl on the street outside zipi (afer hours of looking) I agreed R$100 for 2 hours, went to Motel Village R$40 and had a good time with anal, CIM, BBBJ, DFK etc.
The only good thing I can say about here is that it is cheap. None of the girls were looking for over R$150 and you can get a good hotel for R$70 a night.
Langer
Langer,
Did you entered Kapital? There you will find a diferente world with more than 100 girls to look for, despite the fact average quality is in fact low.
Please if possible tell us more about the whole scene, there haven't been too much reports about Fortaleza.
I spent close to 4wks in Fortaleza in May. I seen many men get stopped by the police. You will definitely br set up by the younger girls. It will eventually happen. I met about seven young Italian guys and they all had problems with the girls.
This place is definitely cheap ($R60 all night) but its difficult to find a 9 or 10. And they are all aggresive. Becareful of the police on the beach.
I found the NON-PROS to be great. They took me to bars and clubs and I had a great time. They are more friendly than girls in the clubs in RIO.
I met many guys from Italy and Germany. They have given up on RIO. They prefer Fortaleza because of the price and more girls. Maybe 3 times as many but not much in good looks.
I concentrated on the non-pros and I did well. Again this place is no RIO. So don't go there looking for GOLD. For you will find MUD.
There are far more girls in Rio that in Fortaleza, and the girls in Rio are on average better looking. That is because the girls from the NE move to Rio where they can make a lot more money.
You can still get a good looker here but it just takes time. Also if you like daytime action then you have a problem as it is not that easy to find in Fortaleza.
Prices are cheap here and maybe that is why the tourists come. It is worth a short trip, nice beaches, good food etc.
In Brazil there is no such thing as a NON-PRO who goes with tourists! If they take gifts or money then they are just prostitutes. No such thing as ¨your my first¨, or ¨I do this to get money for college¨ etc, thats all bullshit.
IF they are NON PRO they will not be seen with tourists for fear of been called prostitutes. Everyone knows that all the guys who travel to Brazil on their own are sex tourists.
One other thing about Fortaleza is that there is a lot of street crime around the tourist areas so keep your eyes open.
[QUOTE=Langer]In Brazil there is no such thing as a NON-PRO who goes with tourists! If they take gifts or money then they are just prostitutes. No such thing as ¨your my first¨, or ¨I do this to get money for college¨ etc, thats all bullshit.
IF they are NON PRO they will not be seen with tourists for fear of been called prostitutes. Everyone knows that all the guys who travel to Brazil on their own are sex tourists.
One other thing about Fortaleza is that there is a lot of street crime around the tourist areas so keep your eyes open.[/QUOTE]All depends, if she is your age or slightly younger then its possible, however if the guy is 60 and the girl is 18, its obvious she's a pro.
Your mention of gifts, money LOL. In my home country you have to buy a girl an expensive drink in a bar just to get her attention for 5 minutes. Would that make them PRO's?
Don't be too hard on the guys here, it is possible to score non-pro's but you need decent appearance, personality and a USP!
Langer,
You right, there is no such thing as Non-Pro. I guess we say this to make ourselves feel good.
The majority of the girls I meet have other legitamate jobs. This is a sure fact.
As far as Forta, my experience has been that there are 3 times as many girls, but not as good looking or than the girls in RIO. There bodies are not as great but there numbers are many more than RIO.
You may have not been to the different areas where the girls hang out. But ask any Ital or Germany and they will concur that there are more girls in Forta than RIO.
We both agree that they are not as beautiful. NO DOUBT
They are also more aggressive and scandulous. They will get you involved in B*llsh*t, in a second.
The policia is always on their side making arrest. I seen so many European guys get hassled by the policia.
No its not RIO but its half the price.
I'll be in Forta for a week (with the wife) and can't afford hassles with the policia. So I'm considering skipping out to a motel for an escort break. Is this a viable plan? Are the escorts timely? Are they 7's and 8's or worse? Anyone have any agencies they can suggest?
Thanks
For more than one month nobody writes a line about Forta.
Come on guys.
[url]www.sexomais.com[/url] - i try it -200 -250 reaöls - But like the girls from Iracema.
[QUOTE=Oskar58][url]www.sexomais.com[/url] - i try it -200 -250 reaöls - But like the girls from Iracema.[/QUOTE]Although I can't recommend anyone going to Fortaleza, if you do happen to be in the area for some unknown reason, many of the same girls that are listed on that site also can be found at Clube do Whiskey, on the way to downtown Fortaleza. It is strictly a take out place, no rooms on site, but unlike ordering from the website, you can sit and have a drink and talk to the girls before you decide who you want. I believe the prices quoted there are about the same as on the website, around R200-250. Probably has the best looking girls I saw in Fortaleza, although almost all the girls are from other states in Brasil, not from Fortaleza or the state of Ceara.
Thanks for the information. What is the best time to visit this place?
[QUOTE=Ezinho] if you do happen to be in the area for some unknown reason, many of the same girls that are listed on that site also can be found at Clube do Whiskey, on the way to downtown Fortaleza.
The local rag, Optimo, has garota ads. Prices range from 70R to 300R. They're a bit risky as there's no photo.
Some Fortaleza chicas are sent to the Photo - Gallery yesterday and today :)
Here is a taste for you :
What is a good time of the day or evening to go to Clube do Whiskey? Will taxis know where it is? Is the rate of R200-250 at Clube do Whiskey for one hour or two hours?
Also, is the R200-250 rate on the sexomais.com website for one or two hours? Has anyone tried visiting the sexomais.com agency office on Albolicao Street, one block inland from Beira Mar? If so, how was it? Any escorts in the office?
[QUOTE=Henry R]What is a good time of the day or evening to go to Clube do Whiskey? Will taxis know where it is? Is the rate of R200-250 at Clube do Whiskey for one hour or two hours? [/QUOTE]I only went there during the evening, so I assume that's the only time it's open. FYI, there is a R30 drink minimum there, but if you just order a bucket of Brahma and share it with a couple of girls there, that should cover it, and that includes the entrance fee too. I'm not sure if the prices are for one or two hours since I never actually took a girl from there, but I got the impression that it was negotiable with the girl. Just ask any cab driver how to get there, they seem to know the *****houses better than anyone in Brasil lol.
Also, if anyone needs a good apartment to rent in Fortaleza, I recomment going to Flatshop on Av. Monsenhor Tabosa. I was able to rent a large 1 bedroom apartment with a partial view of Praia de Iracema for only R50 a night. They have more expensive ones as well with more ammenities (cable, air cond. etc.), but with the sea breeze coming in, I didn't even feel the need for A/C.
Clube do Whiskey,
You can bargin lower. I paid $R180 in MAY.
Guys you are paying much too much in Fortaleza, thats the reason we get out of RIO.
You can score for less than $R100 on the beaches and bars.
Please help keep our prices low.
Can you fly from FOR from NYC without going through Rio or SP? I would love to hit Fortaleza, but dont wanna go all the way to SP or Rio to fly back up north for 5 hours!
Same with Salvador. Is there direct from Miami or something to Fortaleza or Salvador?
Monger 3:
No, all flights from the US to Brazil go to Sao Paulo or Rio first. On top of that, every connection to Northeastern Brazil is less likely to be a direct flight because the more stops they have the less money the airlines lose with empty seats. Since almost all international flights to SP arrive in the morning, you would have to wait at least 8 hours for connecting flights to the northeast from Guarulhos.
Lucio,
That R180 you paid in May at Clube de Whiskey in Fortaleza. Was that for one or two hours? Did you have to pay entrance fee or buy drinks for yourself and the girls? If so, how much did these extras cost? Also, please remember May is probably not the High Season in Fortaleza - at least it is not in Rio. So prices in Fortaleza could go up later this year.
Hi Monger3
Just did a quick search online and here are the results>
You have three daily flights between NYC and Sao Paulo, all of them arriving in the morning, between 5am and 9am. One is a codeshare flight American Airlines and TAM, another United and Varig and the third a Continental flight but flying out of Newark.
You should have no problems catching a connection to either Fortaleza ( 2 ) or Salvador ( 3 or 4 ) in time to be there by lunchtime. The only drag is that you will have to change airports in Sao Paulo, from Guarulhos to Congonhas. It took me two hours last year early in the morning because traffic jams are unbelievable!
Didn t check flights from NYC to Rio but anyway you have much better connections from Sao Paulo to other cities in Brazil , SP is the brazilian hub par excellence!.
If you want to check flights yourself type > digirotas horario voos >
Site in portuguese.
Hope it helps
Hi Monger3,
Just did a quick search online and here are the results>
You have three daily flights between NYC and Sao Paulo, all of them arriving in the morning, between 5am and 9am. One is a codeshare flight American Airlines and TAM, another United and Varig and the third a Continental flight but flying out of Newark.
You should have no problems catching a connection to either Fortaleza ( 2 ) or Salvador ( 3 or 4 ) in time to be there by lunchtime. The only drag is that you will have to change airports in Sao Paulo, from Guarulhos to Congonhas. It took me two hours last year early in the morning because traffic jams are unbelievable!
Didn t check flights from NYC to Rio but anyway you have much better connections from Sao Paulo to other cities in Brazil , SP is the brazilian hub par excellence!.
If you want to check flights yourself type "digirotas horario voos"
Site in portuguese.
Hope it helps
I went to Fortaleza last month.
The place is huge, and there are hundreds of good looking working girls.
So many, too much, italians around in August.
Went to Cafè do Mar, one night, and get Elisangela, a loira. She wasn't the best looking girl around, no more than a 7, but she had a good body and we had a great and passionate session. 100r$ for TLN was the fee.
I was with her for two other sessions, on the next night, and I was satisfied.
YMMV, as usual.
IOTR
I’ve decided to hit next year either Fortaleza or Recife, I’ve been to Rio before but never to any of these 2 cities.
I’d like to know which one is better (Fortaleza or Recife) for our hobby. From what I’ve read so far Fortaleza looks better mongering-wise, despite the fact that there is a clampdown in progress to reduce sex tourism, but I’m interested in knowing the opinions of those of you who have actually been to both cities.
Would you recommend Fortaleza or Recife?
My main concerns are:
1. Quality of girls
2. Quantity of girls
3. Nightlife (i.e. Discos and bars open till late every day, etc)
4. Prices (overheads & pussy)
5. Safety
Thanks,
Fortaleza is probably better for you. A lot of the establishments are in one place, so it's just easier. Recife the nightlife is spread around the city.
One common complaint is that the girls are different up there. Many more indias up in Fortaleza, a different look from Rio's famous mulatas. In Recife it's mixed but you'd find more mulatas.
If you go to Fortaleza, plan to take a break for a couple of days to a beach town somewhere. After a few days it can get old just hanging around in the city.
[QUOTE=Liucio]Clube do Whiskey,
You can bargin lower. I paid $R180 in MAY.
Guys you are paying much too much in Fortaleza, thats the reason we get out of RIO.
You can score for less than $R100 on the beaches and bars.
Please help keep our prices low.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more.
I never take a girl for one or two hours. The nice thing with North-East is that the girl expect to stay all night (if not longer). This is not Amsterdam RLD; 15 minutes, or Estonia brothels; 1 hour and then knock-knock on the door. If I decide to have her out of the room before, just ask her to leave.
I normally pay R$ 50 for all night, and I add R$ 10 - 15 for taxi for the girl. If I am very pleased, I sometimes pay R$ 100, but then nothing for the taxi. I never make agreement about the price in advance, the girls I choose do not ask for money, and this gives me the girlfriend feeling. The girl leave the room with a smile in her face.
The normal income in Ceara is for a housemaid about R$ 300 per month. This is 6 or sometimes 7 long workingdays per week. Very few can earn R$ 500. Please consider this when you pay them in the morning.
One may think that you can afford to pay too much, but please come in mind how expencive this will be for long time mongers!
HenryR,
It was for 2 hrs and I pay R$10 for 2 drinks. I am always in Fortaleza in DEC & FEB. I never pay tourist rates.
The most I pay for garotas is R$100 for all night. I have not paid about R$100 in 3 yrs for a garota in Forta.
Thats my purpose of choosing that city.
I will go to Fortaleza in October 5 and then 2 weeks from there.
I have never been to Fortaleza in those low-season period, and I am quite curious how the Iracema area is like, as the Italians and Dutch has made their departure ? Is the number of girl normal, or is it slow ?
I have bought a VERY NICE 200m2 house close to the beach, in Porta Das Dunas ( 15 minutes from Beira Mar and the air-port, - 20 minutes from Praia Iracema ), and are going to prepare it for rental. Brazilians tourist hight season should be December - February.
If someone have experience on these, please PM me or post Your views. This is the Dream place, with Beach Park and the beautiful and safe Porto Das Dunas Praia 100 meters away. Its with 24/7 hours guard, but still you can drive from outside directly into the garage and house, so its vey private. Swimming pools, sauna and sports place is included for yourselfes, Your family or a group of friends! If there are interest for cheap rental, pls. PM me, and I can send You more Info.
If there is someone new or old in Forta at that time, who likes to join me for one beer or caipii, 5-16 October, before for some hunting, please PM me. I know the usual, and some of the un-usual :)
I hope You understand this North Europe English :) Take care and Good Luck!
I may hit Fortaleza during Easter next year but am a bit concerned that Easter might fuck up the scene to some extent as it does in Rio (some bars and clubs closed, etc), so I'd appreciate any feedback from anyone who has actually been in Fortaleza over the Easter period in the past.
If the scene is really affected over that period I'll try to avoid it and travel on different dates.
Thanks,
I think I've been there over Easter -- and yes everything's closed. But then again, I could be wrong. Does this help? Fuck no? O.k., then.
Point is, I wouldn't call off Fort. due to Easter alone. It's a fun place (though many disagree) and you can easily pre-arrange dates with many girls for that one day off, anyway.
Happy Hunting,
JWadd
[QUOTE=Balluba]I will go to Fortaleza in October 5 and then 2 weeks from there.
I planing to stay at Fortaleza from Oktober 9 to 24,
But I've also never been at forta. May we can have a caipi or beer in Forta.
Chears,
Flintstone
Fortaleza, used to be my play ground until the police got out of hand.
Easter will spoil your plans, believe me, shut down almost everywhere.
My main concerns are:
1. Quality of girls >>not more 8's,9's or 10's ---only RIO
2. Quantity of girls >>definitely more than RIO---3 times the volume and 18-19yr olds
3. Nightlife (i.e. Discos and bars open till late every day, etc)>> till 4
4. Prices (overheads & pussy)>> cheapest in all Brazil , I never pay more than 90 for all night. NEVER
5. Safety>> rough, the garotas are aggressive
You will love the place but don't even thing about the young girls, don't even think about it
Hello,
The most boys pay to much money for the girls. The real price is only 50 reals per night. Why? A girl who is working 7 days in a restaurant or in a hotel get only 50 - 70 reals per week. She must pay 20 - 30 reals for the bus per week. She's working from 4 - 4 in the night, waiting one hour for the bus in the morning and drive 1-2 h in her home. Tell this to the garotas and you don't must pay any more. I was 16 times in Brazil. I know it. The best way is to learn a little portugesh and you pay nothing, and then if you want give her a present, cash, and tell her she is no prostituite. You have than a lot of pleasure with lot of girls. I went in the city, shopping centers, there are lot of girls for nothing. In Brazil is the different girl - boy 8 : 1. You are the gringo, also the king and master. The girls love it. They are proud in the road with a foreinger. Not like in USA and Europe.
When you have a girlfriend in Brazil, ask her you want sleep with her girlfriend. The girls love it one men two girls or two men one girls. Sure.
Sorry for my bad english.
thanks guys for the feedback, i think i’ll give easter a miss and travel on a different date to play safe.
regarding the **** girls, it will be a matter of taking only girls with id’s that you can check to make sure they are at least 18 yo - i suppose most girls in fortaleza will carry their id’s as they do in rio, is that right?
If you have to inspect her ID ------grab your drink and walk to another table. Some R in collusion w/POLICIA. Believe what I am telling you. If she looks to young--------she's too young. And listen to these guys when they say don't pay more than $R70-80 for entire night. I dont' care if she dressed nice, a 10 on the scale.
Pay no more than $80, walk away give it 20mins and they will be seated next to u ready to go.
This place is no RIO. The ratio is crazy 8 or 9 to 1 on any night all under 23yrs old. But no perfect 9's or 10's like RIO.
Enjoy yourself and take many pic of your garotas.
Enjoy your trip.
[QUOTE=Oskar58]Hello,
They are proud in the road with a foreinger. Not like in USA and Europe.
.[/QUOTE]
16 times in Brasil and still you don't understand what people are shouting at your girl?
I'm sorry but its VERY unlikely that any "normal" brasilian thinks that girls who go out with us GRINGOS are anything else but hookers. This may change if they see you with one girl for long enough.
P
glad
just stay away from girls that look too young. in brasil you will be convicted if she is ****. its so easy to get a fake id and that doesn't release you from the responsibility. you don't want to go to jail in brasil.
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Does anyone know if the Villa Mayor Hotel is guest friendly? It is in the Meireles section, on Rua Visconde de Mayo.
Hi guys,
I'll be in Fortaleza next month. I was there 2 years ago, wich are the best places, discos and other funny places? Are still Kapital, Armazen, Cafè do mar. Zipi ?
Anyone from Fortaleza recently?
Thank's
Anyone know if the Sol Jangada Fortaleza Hotel is guest friendly? It is on Avenida Abolicao in the Meireles neighborhood.
Also, anyone know a contact e-mail address for the (Best Western) Colonial Hotel in Meireles. Is that hotel guest friendly? There is also another Colonial Hotel in Iracema.
[QUOTE=Henry R]Anyone know if the Sol Jangada Fortaleza Hotel is guest friendly? It is on Avenida Abolicao in the Meireles neighborhood.
Also, anyone know a contact e-mail address for the (Best Western) Colonial Hotel in Meireles. Is that hotel guest friendly? There is also another Colonial Hotel in Iracema.[/QUOTE]
I know only Colonial Praia Hotel, close to Holiday Inn in Irecema. Last year they was a Best Western Hotel, but not this year anymore.
They have : [email]fortaleza@colonialpraiahotel.com.br[/email]
... and yes, they are girl friendly, no problem !
Virtually all hotels in Fortaleza are girl friendly. In fact, when i checked into the hotel I stayed at, I asked if there was a "taxa de accompahantes" [short hand term for an extra fee for female guests (i.e GDPs) staying over in a hotel room]. The clerk responded that yes there was, and as long as she was legal - 18 and had i.d. - there would not be any problems. And there were not any problems while I was there - brogth back a couple different GDPs over the course of my stay there.
I should have mentioned that I meant no fee for guests when I wrote "guest friendly". Out of curiosity, what was the guest fee?
All, maybe 90% r guess friendly, very cheap for the guess. U will not have a porblem. When I'm there I always rent an apartment. I stay one week in different apartments in differents areas to see more of the city.
Try to find an apartment they are much cheaper.
There R guys on the beach handing out cards for apartments to rent. Get a card, call the number and go view the apartment. They are very nice and comvienent.
I was staying in an appartment, had no troubles at all. Girl hands out her ID, thats it!
Got my appartment through "flatshop", they have an office on Av. Monsenhor Tabosa between R. Augusto and R. Idelfonso Albano. Very reliable! Payed 50 reais a day for a decent place with seperate sleeping room. Not bad at all!
Was there in September, and as the girls say it's low season, many more girls than mongers, many girls to choose. But as someone pointed out previously, they are not the best looking girls: tend to have quite a belly, no waist, no hips. Not the type tall blonde. You must like them short and morena! Many young looking girls as well, so be careful! I wouldn't like to get into trouble with the Polícia Militar!!
I found a lovely one, she had this increadible smile on her face, I couldn't resist to choose her in a second!
She provided great sex, absolutely uninhibited! BBBJ, CIM, anal. She got incredibly wet, no need for KY. All night for 70 R$, an afternoon with 3 pops 50 R$. One night (I didn't have an appointment with her) I met her on the street, told her I had no money to pay her, but nevertheless she came with me that night for free. She never tried to press money out of me, no cocktails ordered, for food she only wanted a portion of french fries, no pressure to go to the shopping malls. Once she was about to leave (I was exhausted...), turned round just to ask if I liked one more time - which I had to refuse.
She speaks no English, you guys really need a basic knowledge of Portuguese! But she understands a bit of Italian (not my language): are you reading this Samuele? Fabio? Ricardo? Daniele? She was staying with you in August.
I'll post some more pictures in the photo gallery.
Pyjama
Liucio,
What are roughly the apartments daily rates?
Are they usually safe (doorman, etc)?
I paid $18/night for a one bedroom. Which was further down the popular end of the beach. It was three minute walk down the beach.
I got it as a discount because I paid before I arrived. Once I got there, the guy told me he had more apartments available and after 2 nights I upgraded to a larger 1 bedroom closer to action and with bigger windows looking out on to the ocean. I paid $US21/per night for the upgrade.
I greeted the doorman and I bought him cold beers on Friday & Sat morning.
There was no charge for my girls and no ID check.
I had no problem with security in the building it was safe. The doorman even looked after the bike I rented when I didn't want to put it on the evevador and take it into my apartment.
I agree the garotas are not as shapely with nice round asses and small waist like in RIO.
But in RIO they garotas do not cook for you either.
The least I ever paid was $R40 for an all night, with ANAL, BBBJ and she stayed all night.
The most I ever paid in Forta was $R90, she was a 9 on the scale. She would be a 9 in RIO also. She stayed all night also.
Almost all the young girl that stay ( 19-21yrs) will cook you breakfast and lunch.
We were always in the Supermarket buying fresh veggies, meats, and breads.
These garotas love 2 cook you food. Because they want to stay.
We once broke the blender, using it so much. Fresh juices, every type.
My frig was always packed with newly cooked meals. DELICIOUS.
The next morning when they left they would offer a lower price, just 2 B hired and earning money.
I always had my shorts and t-shorts hand washed by these girls.
As I always pay the lowest.
I am also a BIG TIPPER. I would always TIP $R30 on top of the negotiated price.
Again these R not RIO type girls, they are poorer and they get less work.
I hear some guys r going there and overpaying and inflating the market, I ask please don't spoil it.
Its the cheapest, least expensive vacation spot with the best beaches.
U spent 1/3 of the RIO expenses.
The ratio was 8:1 in MAY when I was there for 21 or more days.
Last year in Dec the ratio was close to 12:1 for the high season on the beach.
So many.
And also so many young garotas. But you have been warned.
The scams are awaiting you.
Problem is in high season you have many tourist, many with families and little children.
The nights are incredible in mid december at the clubs, so many garotas- 15:1 in clubs and this is when they get aggresive against you and each other.
OK maybe 15:1 is an exaggeration.
But you will be happy with an apartment.
Rent for a short period (3days)
They upgrade to a different area. I always do this, its a great way to see different people and discover different bus routes and restaurants. Not to mention meeting the NON-PRO's which is my preference.
Enjoy
Will you rent an apartment or stay in a hotel?
If you rent an apartment, rent for a short term.
Then go ask around on the beach and you will find 2 gentleman that rent many apartments in diff. areas. This way you can upgrade after a couple of days.
Please post the clubs and bars you attend.
Enjoy your trip
Liucio:
I prefer an apartment but could stay at a hotel if it were OK. I prefer staying in the Mireiles area or Mirucupe area. Mirucupe area is on or near Beira Mar and just past Mireiles, if you are coming from Iracema, and going east towards Praia Futuro.
Hope I can pay $50 US or less, including tax. I also hope they have no guest fee or a very small guest fee.
I love the Iracema area at night, but it seems to have no atmosphere daytime so I prefer not to stay at a hotel or apartment in Iracema.
Thanks Liucio for the great info!
Your suggestion of booking 2-3 nights before arrival and then look around for a better apt makes sense - do you have any phone number or website where it's possible to book one? PM me if you like. Otherwise I suppose I'll do a search in Google and something should come up.
Thanks again for your feedback, if all goes according to plan I'll hit Fortaleza in March or April next year.
GLAD:
If I were you I would buy those airplane tickets now.
By Mar of next next some aviation analysis expect airline prices to increase 8% by Jan. And the dollar is gettinf weaker everyweek.
U had better hedge yourself and lock in a plane ticket now and also find an apartment and pay now for the delivery in March.
The dollar is dropping each day as LULA corruption scandal becomes more evident.
It is very safe to send your money to these real estate agents. I do it all the time to safe 2% or 3%.
But then again a am a cheap shithead.
Henry:
The Mirucupe area is very nice. You r correct about the daytime scene but at night I love the place. The crowds the weather, the sounds of those waves. U guys r making me home sick.
Henry I will be there early DEC, hope we can meet for a meal.
Glad: I will look for these business cards I collected from vendors (apartment 4 rent). Never thought I would need them. I will search my cluttered basement.
Enjoy guys
[QUOTE=Henry R]
I prefer an apartment but could stay at a hotel if it were OK. I prefer staying in the Mireiles area or Mirucupe area...
I love the Iracema area at night, but it seems to have no atmosphere daytime so I prefer not to stay at a hotel or apartment in Iracema.[/QUOTE]
In Fortaleza you will find a very wide selection of apartments. Beira Mar, Mucuripe and Meireles are nice areas. I prefer the Iracema area towards Avenida Monsenhor Tabosa.
If you want daytime atmosphere head to the Centro.
[QUOTE=Gladiator]
booking 2-3 nights before arrival and then look around for a better apt makes sense...[/QUOTE]
It doesn't make sense. Very few agencies will let you rent an apartment for only 2-3 nights. A better choice is to stay in a hotel the first nights while checking around for apartments.
There are several agencies with apartments to rent. Your best option is to get in contact directly with the apartment owner. This way you will not have to pay any commissions to the agency or to whoever that showed you to the apartment.
Renting from an agency the rates, for a nice 2-room apt in the Iracema area, are from 50 reais and up. Longer stay gives lower price.
If you look around you will find people renting out their apartments in the Iracema area for as low as 35 reais. Many of them will ask your nationality, as they don't rent to Italians. This is because the Italians earned themselves a very bad reputation in Fortaleza.
[QUOTE=Sperto]
If you want daytime atmosphere head to the Centro.
[/QUOTE]
That is very true, there are dozens of girls offering sex. Just get the local newspaper "Diário" and look for relax/acompanhantes in the classificados section. They start as low as 10R$ for what they call quicky. Might still be longer than the average fuck with a hooker here at my town :-(
Was in an appartment with a choice of three morenas (maybe rating 5-7), 20 R$ for half an hour CBJ only. Would have been 60R$ for 1h completo, so I think in a total you get much better value for an allnighter!
Don't expect to get along with English, you must be able to communicate in Portuguese. And Centro an further on is no place to meet many tourists, you will definitly be the gringo there.
Pyjama
Its always been my choice to rent any apartment for short term (2-3days).
I have always done this and always had offers from realtors to get an unoccupied space off their hands. I never have problems requesting short term for a cheap rate.
Sperto, $R50 is very high per night.
I never paid that even in high season.
I pay in the low 20's all time. Maybe high season the rents can demand high 30's but I never pays these exspensive rates.
U r correct about the Italians they have earned themselves a BAD name.
But they are the tourist economy up there.
They R the BIG spending EURO's.
I admit they love hiring the young girls. They really walk the line.
But I will not condemn or critisize them. For they R always buying my beers.
[QUOTE=Liucio]Its always been my choice to rent any apartment for short term (2-3days).[/QUOTE]
Lucky Liucio. I never meet anybody interested renting out an apartment for 2 days.
[QUOTE=Liucio]
Sperto, $R50 is very high per night.
I never paid that even in high season.
I pay in the low 20's all time. [/QUOTE]
Lucky Liucio.
If you rent an nice wellfurnished 2-room apartment, from an agency, in a decent edifício in Iracema during high-season, for a short-term stay, they will ask you for at least 50 reais. Renting directly from the proprietor will get you a lower price.
Renting an more simple apartment can get you a rate of 35 reais for a short-term stay in high-season.
A rate of 20 reais is just pure bulls**t.
[QUOTE=Liucio]I pay in the low 20's all time... I paid $18/night for a one bedroom... I paid $US21/per night for the upgrade. [/QUOTE]
You paid 18 reais and 21 US$ more for the upgrade, per night. You call that 20 reais? Get yourself a calculator.
[QUOTE=Liucio]
U r correct about the Italians they have earned themselves a BAD name.
But they are the tourist economy up there.
They R the BIG spending EURO's. [/QUOTE]
So the Italians are the tourist economy spending the big money in Fortaleza? What about all the Dutch, Swiss, Germans, Scandinavians and the brazilian tourists? They don't spend any money in Fortaleza?
I never rent from an agency. I rent from private ownings. The last 3 yrs, in both high season and low season, I have rented from private owners. I never pay R$50/per thats crazy.
In low season I have paid as little as R$17 for a 1 bedroom 3 minutes away from the beach. Owned by a private owner.
And $R35 is common in high season, not a deal. I don't find $R35, 2 B a deal.
Hell, I can scout out a find cheap nice places.
Your preference is your own I won't argue.
"Dutch, Swiss, Germans, Scandinavians and the brazilian tourists? They don't spend any money in Fortaleza?"
They do but I meet more Itals and Germans everytime I arrive.
Didn't mean to draw a fight on that statement.
I meant $R21 for an upgrade.
R U flame throwing?
Sorry, I did not read your entire post. So I had 2 write again.
"Lucky Liucio. I never meet anybody interested renting out an apartment for 2 days."
I move as often as possible, no I don't park in 1 place in a city for 29 or 30 days. Not my style.
When I return I will send u a pic of te apartmnt I will rent for a budget price.
B patient, Senhor.
I still have luv 4 u
[QUOTE=Liucio]I never rent from an agency. I rent from private ownings. The last 3 yrs, in both high season and low season, I have rented from private owners. [/QUOTE]
So the question is, where do you find these private owners? Only a couple of times along Av. Beira Mar I was approached be some guys offering "apartamento?" I didn't care about them as I already had a nice place and thought it was cheap enough. Reading your post makes me think again...
On the other hand: let's remember the prices down in Rio, and then we are talking about cheap or even cheaper!
[QUOTE=Liucio]I paid $18/night for a one bedroom...I paid $US21/per night for the upgrade.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Liucio]I meant $R21 for an upgrade.[/QUOTE]
OK, you meant R$ 21 for the upgrade. 18 and 21 makes R$ 39. What about the apartments for R$ 20?
Liucio, tell us where to find them.
No flame throwing. I just appreciate correct information. Otherwise there will be a lot of mongers in Fortaleza with pinocchio-noses when they realize they cant find any nice apts for R$ 20.
I understand,
I hand 3 cards that I use that I am currently looking for. They have the names of the owners. A German couple, an Ital. and a Brasilian older genleman that love plants. (many plants in his place).
If you go 3 streets away about 2minutes you can find many small studio or 1 bedroom places. I always get solicited for a cheap place.
I will post when I find them.
I will also take pics when I arrive in 60 days.
By the end of 2003, i rented an apartment, around 35 $ R near Iracema, parking facility, and security.
I used Flatshop, the famouse renting agency. I was very pleased with the apartment (1 bedroom).
Perhaps prices have gone up since then.
[QUOTE=Montecristo]By the end of 2003, i rented an apartment, around 35 $ R near Iracema, parking facility, and security.
I used Flatshop, the famouse renting agency. I was very pleased with the apartment (1 bedroom).
Perhaps prices have gone up since then.[/QUOTE]
I also used Flatshop in 2003. I payed R$ 30. In February I rented an apartment from Flatshop to a friend of mine, R$ 50. Prices have gone up.
Compared to Rio you get much nicer apartments in Fortaleza for a lower cost. If you stay in a 2-room apartment on the 17:th floor with a big balcony, oceanview and a nice breeze, then there is no reason to complain that the rates gone up a little bit.
Also the pro's in Fortaleza are cheap and the non-pro's easy to pick up. Fortaleza is a bargain compared to Rio. There is a nice mixture of girls in Fortaleza, even though I think the girls with the typical Ceará-look looks funny. Short, round heavy bodies, absolutely no neck at all and a big round head on the top.
Don't forget they lack that cup at the bottom of the ass that separates the ass from the hamstring. The ass and leg could all be one. But I enjoy them much better than Cariocas. sad 2 say
Does anyone have some experience with Portuguese language schools in Fortaleza? Any type would be of interest: classes in groups, private lessons, courses at university, etc.
And is there anyone of you mongering in Forta in mid November? I hope I'll be there in week 45.
Pyjama
Hi guys,
I will be in Fortaleza next month. Wiche are the best places in this period?
Thanks
I reccommend Praia Irecema, Praia Biera Mar & Praia do Futuro.
U will find many garotas u will not need 2 look 4 them believe me.
I have been to Praia do Futuro. I spent an entire afternoon there walking the length of the beach. It is awesome! The days I spent there were during the week, but I am sure the week-ends are spectacular. Even on a weekday afternoon, they had the huge stage that they had set-up for a week-end show, operational with a DJ. There are all kinds of garotas on that beach, though most that I saw were part of a couple. At the far end which is less crowded and has smaller bars/restaurants, couples were "romantic" in the water, mostly cuddling and splashing a bit.
It is a great place to take a garota. I am not sure about the degree of success in *finding* a garota there.
[QUOTE=Liucio]I reccommend Praia Irecema, Praia Biera Mar & Praia do Futuro.
U will find many garotas u will not need 2 look 4 them believe me.[/QUOTE]
On praia do futuro there are some (in-)famous barracas (=beach bars) where you will find lots of girls offering massage directly on the beach. You will notice the blue massage beds. Of course on the beach there is only massage, but ask the girl what she is going to offer to you at night in your appartment :-)
I think one of the barracas was called "Coco Beach", an other one had "Caranguejo" in its name.
Pyjama
[QUOTE=Pyjama]I think one of the barracas was called "Coco Beach", an other one had "Caranguejo" in its name.
Pyjama[/QUOTE]
That's right, Chico do Caranguejo and Coco beach.
Be careful with the pronunciation. Don't ask for directions to Cocô Beach.
Coco=coconut
Cocô=shit
It's funny when some gringos on the beach ask for "água de cocô". :)
[QUOTE=Sperto]
It's funny when some gringos on the beach ask for "água de cocô". :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's funny! But Brazilians are funny when they are talking English and don't get the difference between "beach" and "*****" :-)
And when we are talking about Brazilian football star Kaká (whose full name by the way is: Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite) we should really stress the second syllable rather than say "Káka"...
Maybe we should better move this discussion to the Portuguese Phrases thread?
Pyjama
I'd like to go there next mounth, have you something to suggest me (clubs, bars, etc.)
Thanks a lot
What is the deal with Praia Futura at nite. I had heard a couple years ago that there are bars there with available garotas at nite. But that area was also supposed to be dangerous at nite. Anyone have any info re which bars, which nites etc?
Howdy, amigo:
I've walked that whole length and (I think) it's just the eastern end of what would be called (by me) "Fortaleza Bay." As I remember, there're a few large outdoor dinner clubs, tennis court/soccer field, wide beach promenade down there before it turns the corner and becomes seaside cliffs and/or residential. Can't remember for sure. There's going to be action along this whole section of beach during the day, and probably next to nothing at night (they all head to Beira Mar). No guarantees. Hope this helps; sorry it's so imprecise (and I could be entirely wrong!).
Happy Hunting,
JW
On Praia do futuro you will find a lot of "barracas" with live music. the night for praia do futuro is thursday. Go to Croco-Beach, Chicco do carangueijo, Coco-Beach, Boa Vida or Itaparika. In Fortaleza you have a party every night: Monday Pirata, wednesday Armazem, thursday Lounge Beach (Praia do Futuro), friday Mucuripe, saturday Armazem and on sunday Orbita.
Then you have the corner with the gdp (bikini, europa, cafe do mar and capital). Every night is action there. And before don't miss the Zipy Bar at around 10.00pm.
Den28 & J Wadd
Both these guys r correct
Nothing but action in these areas.
Even if u find no good selection u will enjoy the center of attention.
So different nites for a special bar that nite. Nothing for Tuesday? Two nites for Armazem (Wed and Sat?). Are there garotas de programa on party nites? I think the Pirata Bar does not have garotas de programa (GDPs) on their nite, which is Monday. What about the other nites? Do the different bars have GDPs on their nite?
[QUOTE=Henry R]I think the Pirata Bar does not have garotas de programa (GDPs) on their nite, which is Monday. [/QUOTE]
There are lots of pro's at Pirata on Mondays. If they ain't lucky they'll go on to Kapital.
You will find smething at Pirata & Kapital
For sure on any night
Hi,
I will be in Fortaleza on 11/10/05, for 6 nights, party of three. I want a recommendation for an apartment. I contacted the sunflower and thought their prices were too high. I will contact “Flatshop” if no one has a contact with a private owner. Please e-mail me at [blue][Email Address deleted by Admin][/blue] if you don’t want to post here. I am looking for a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment that is as close to the action as possible.
Thanks
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So Mucuripe Club's special nite is Friday nite? I assume Mucuripe is a disco with mostly non-pros and is in the Mucuripe neighborhood. Please let me know if that is not correct. Are there any GDPs there on Friday nites, which is the special nite for the Mucuripe club? If so, how many? What about the Mucuripe club on nites other than Fridays - any GDPs those other nites?
(I already knew Kapital has action every nite - I just wondered about the regular clubs not known for GDPs and if GDPs go to those regular clubs on that club's special nite).
[QUOTE=Henry R]...Are there any GDPs there on Friday nites, which is the special nite for the Mucuripe club? If so, how many? What about the Mucuripe club on nites other than Fridays - any GDPs those other nites? [/QUOTE]
Friday nights are definitely the best nights at Mucuripe. Lots of beautiful regular girls.
Saturday nights are OK. Lower standard on the girls, but easier to pick up.
As Mucuripe Club has becomed popular among gringos, unfortunately it also started to attract some pro's. I say "unfortunately" because I prefer to have the pro's separated. That way it's easier to pick up the regular girls.
On Friday night the federal police closed all the discotheques and Praia de Iracema bar!
Henry R
I will be in Forta around DEC 4 or 5
Do you want to meet for a drink, I will show you where I rent apartments.
[QUOTE=Stefinho]On Friday night the federal police closed all the discotheques and Praia de Iracema bar![/QUOTE]Is this true ? Does anyone knows what happened next ? What might have been the reason ? I hope they were all open next day, after all it is the center of action in Forta.
The Fortaleza mayor does not want this type of tourism any more. The police has found minors in two discotheques!!!
U all have been warned
Leave the minors alone
U will find what u r looking 4 when u start a conversation w/minors
The POLICIA is SERIOUS
[QUOTE=Henry R]So Mucuripe Club's special nite is Friday nite? I assume Mucuripe is a disco with mostly non-pros and is in the Mucuripe neighborhood. QUOTE]
Well, actually it is on the other side of the city. Ask any taxi driver.
They know.
Just make clear to them that you want to go to "Mucuripe clubi" .
El Greco
Mucuripe Club
Travessa Maranguape, 108 – Centro
Just a short walk from Centro Dragão do Mar. Walking distance to Iracema.
Take a taxi from Iracema to Mucuripe Clube! It's about 5 real.
Everything is open. No problem.
Which is the hot Fortaleza bar on Sunday nites? What about Tuesday nites?
Kapital is kicking on Sundays! But I guess its kicking every night.
Kapital and the other bars in iracema are kicking every nite! there is no difference, it's always the same!
Sunday night is "Orbita" (Rock Music, close to Armazem) and tuesday you go to Arre égua bar (Rua Delmiro Gouveia 420, Varjota). but there are no girls from praia de iracema. you should speak a little bit portuguese.
Thanks Den28 for the info. Also, I am curious about Lounge Beach at Praia Futuro. I read that it is the hot place on Thursday nites. But when I went to the beach at Praia Futuro this week no one heard of it. Any info? Exactly where is it?
Also, about the massage girls at Praia Futuro who are willing to go to your room to give you a massage. Someone wrote on this forum that they are willing to give more than a massage. But someone told me it is strictly massage only. Does it depend on the girl or which beach you are at? How do you tell at first which one will do more? Any info on this?
[QUOTE=Henry R]Which is the hot Fortaleza bar on Sunday nites? [/QUOTE]
Don't miss Siqueira Clube on Sunday nights.
In the outskirt of Fortaleza, forró, huge place, no gringos but lots of easy (regulars) girls and great fun. You won't regret if you go there.
R we going to try 2 meet?
I can not garuantee I can get to an internet site once I'm in Forta
I will be on buse when I arrive so lets paln a meeting
You are leaving the same day I arrive, so lets plan something
Do you wan to meet on DEC 4?
[QUOTE=Sperto]Don't miss Siqueira Clube on Sunday nights.
In the outskirt of Fortaleza, forró, huge place, no gringos but lots of easy (regulars) girls and great fun. You won't regret if you go there.[/QUOTE]
Sperto,
That club sounds good. How do you get there? By taxi? If so, do taxi drivers know where it is or do we need to give them more specific details?
What's the best time to get there and until what time does the action last?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Gladiator]Sperto,
That club sounds good. How do you get there? By taxi? If so, do taxi drivers know where it is or do we need to give them more specific details?
What's the best time to get there and until what time does the action last?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Go there by taxi, R$ 35 (if you bargain) from Iracema. All the drivers knows the place. It's good to be there around 22 hs. The action last until the morning.
Henry R,
Lounge Beach is a barraca on praia do futuro. You follow the Av. Santos Dumont to praia do futuro. Then you will arrive directly there. There are no gdp's. go there around midnight. sound is house music.
For Forro music you can go to Boi do Sertao or Kuckukaya, both on Av. Pontes Viera. Its about 10 minutes by taxi from Beira Mar, only on weekends.
But there are a lot of girls (no gdp's).
About the massage girls: everything depends on the girl. Go to Coco Beach or Boa Vida.
Hy fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is thinking to buy apartments in Forta, I would like to give him some help so I guess, can anybody give me some suggests in which part of Forta it could be better business to buy and to sell?
Which are the price for one small apartment?
Any info will be very appreciate!
Thanks in advance!
Luka
Maybe you or your friend should have a look at this:
[url]http://br.dir.yahoo.com/Regional/Paises/Brasil/Estados/Ceara/Cidades/Fortaleza/Imoveis/[/url]
From my last trip I still have a newspaper from Fortaleza (Diário do Nordeste) including the "classificados" section. I´ll check this for you later today, and I will give you any internet address I can find in there. Tell me, if you also wish to get telephone numbers, if a company does not have internet.
Pyjama
PS: everytime I passed by this _strange-building_ I was amazed by the complex structure and unusual shape...
Yes if you don't mind write me also the numbers.
Thanks a lot!
[QUOTE=Pyjama]PS: everytime I passed by this _strange-building_ I was amazed by the complex structure and unusual shape...[/QUOTE]
Judging by your photos you stayed in Fortaleza Flats. Right?
About the "Strange House", it's amazing it's still there. The building itself is quite nice, but so run-down. It's a shame, because the location is top-class. Next to the Iracema-church with a great ocean-view.
Yes, I did stay in Fortaleza Flats. But I also stayed in "Via Venetto" (I think...) where picture "viewI/II" were taken. And once I stayed in "Newpoint". All of them I rented through flatshop, ranging from 45-60 R$. Nothing special, but there was a big bed and a bathroom in all of them, so what more do I need??
Pyjama
@ Lukasek
Actually there are only some internet adresses in this newspaper. This is what I could find:
[url]http://www.fiducialimobiliaria.com.br[/url]
[url]http://www.apredial.com.br/index.php[/url]
[url]http://www.jvsengenharia.com.br/[/url]
[url]http://www.integralengenharia.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mercurius.com.br/[/url]
Classificados do Diário is full of (private?) little adds offering apartamentos, casa etc. Of course, all of them have a telephone, but there are hundreds...
The following numbers apparently belong to companies:
3091.7489
3298.2737
3253.6600
3091.8407
3086.8178
3264.0284
3131.2000
3261.4534
All numbers are local numbers. Do note that Brazil is +55 and Fortaleza is 85.
Of course the newpaper itself has an internet address, which is
[url]http://diariodonordeste.globo.com/classif/[/url]
All this makes me wonder if I should start thinking about the same question...
Com muito saudades do Brasil
Pyjama
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hy fellow mongers!
A friend of mine is thinking to buy apartments in Forta, I would like to give him some help so I guess, can anybody give me some suggests in which part of Forta it could be better business to buy and to sell?
Which are the price for one small apartment?
Any info will be very appreciate!
Thanks in advance!
Luka[/QUOTE]
Try Flatshop to start with. Last time Adriana (sister of the owner) did show me about five flats availlable for sale. None to my liking though.
But it is a good approach to the market there. Expect to pay 100k-150k Reais for a medium apartmemnt.
There are too many under construction. Many Paulistas are looking for a place there and many more are moving there for a better and more economical life. It looks like the Miami of Brasil.
El Greco
Even if I don't know if it is in spanish or also in Portuguese...really thanks a lot Pyjama and El Greco for your help!
I will immediately send to my friends the info you gave me and I am also thinking about to invest some little money to buy one flat there.
I was 23 days in Recife and I always thought was a mistake and much better to go to Forta, but my saudade it still big and deep in me after 2 year..
With the hope someday we could drink together a beer there enjoying the view of Ocean with 3 girls close to Us, I wish you a good fun and nice weekend too.
Cum muita saudade from cold Italia (mainly for the pussy here) ...
Luka
"Muito obrigado", as they say in Portuguese. I would love to see this appartment once your friend will have bought it! Let's meet there whenever the time is right :-)
I try to travel to Brazil in June again. If I only could I'd be going tomorrow...
Pyjama
I have found some more links to building companies! Here we go!
[url]http://www.torresdemelo.com.br/exibeDetalhesAluguel.php[/url]
[url]http://www.ritmoimoveis.com.br[/url]
[url]http://www.airtonfernandes.com.br/[/url]
[url]http://www.immobilis.com.br/[/url]
Lukasek, I expect your friend to have his appartment by the time I'll be there in June ;-)
Pyjama
Pyjama it is so soon to plan trip in June or not? :)
My friend has his brother that after first time of holiday in Forta, came back home and was so sad about the normal kind of life here in little sex prison Italy, that he decided to sell car and to go to live in Forta in january.
He told me, he will buy two flat and to let his brother to care about them.
To tell you the truth, my biggest dream is to live in Brazil with russian girl:) and I hope i will can comeback to Russia soon.
Nice foto lol.
Where do you live?
Luka
Arrived today
The beaches are packed with talent, same garotas I've seen before
Some new talent though
Hi mongers who are in Fortaleza,
We need informations: no reports from long time!
I had a bad news: Kapital closed, the owner want do it; I red this in a site of Cearà.
I don't know what's happening after, so some news from mongers are very appreciated!
Waiting for your helps, always happy hunting!
Forty
Yesterday was perfect. It must have hit 92F/33C yesterday at 10am until 4pm.
Beaches crowded with Euro tourist and locals.
Traveled on the bus to neighborhoods in the north, bus ride is bumby and fast. Bus will run thru red light and take sharp turns. Great adventures.
Forta is very poor but beautiful, the people are great.
Great looking women taking the buses, so many young mother with children.
These kids climbing thru the bus windows and yelling like crazy. Wild
I found a nice place to have a drink but not sure about the saftey of the area. Lots women dancing in this store front place seems like a singles atmosphere many women not many men. (Great)
Thurs night there is a huge festa with live music. Its for a younger crowd (teens) but yea of course I will be there.
My philosophy is 2 find 1 or 2 women that I want to spend my time with when I'm in town.
I try choose regular women that have honest jobs.
The Programa scene is just to hectic and filled with too many problems.
If u can find an honest fun Pro - great. Butif not these women can ruin a vacation.
I have girlfriends I can trust and I haven't been burned since I slowed down on the mongering scene.
I can leave my apt with my girl inside for the entire day while I'm running the beach or drinking at the beach.
I return to my apt and find my place cleaned, dinner cooked and no money missing.
The draw back is that I am missing a lot of ass here, lot of ass.
Missed opportunities.
There is a young guy here that has a different girl in the afternoon and at night.
I've seen this guy with 8 different women since I've been here. Honesty. Every morning and dinner time he has a diff. girl.
That whats missing. But I'll do that in the next city.
After Kapital closed for good, my natural assumption was this is the first step in closing down all the Iracema bars, since Kapital is the biggest and the best. I spoke to a girl who now works at one of the other Iracema bars. She told me she used to work at Kapital before it closed. She told me she thinks that closing Kapital is the first step in closing down all the Iracema bars.
[QUOTE=Henry R]After Kapital closed for good, my natural assumption was this is the first step in closing down all the Iracema bars, since Kapital is the biggest and the best. I spoke to a girl who now works at one of the other Iracema bars. She told me she used to work at Kapital before it closed. She told me she thinks that closing Kapital is the first step in closing down all the Iracema bars.[/QUOTE]
No no around 20 dec its open again,they wait till there are more turists.Now its not enough of tourists.
I am thinking about Fortaleza and am doing some data mining. Enjoy
The phone systems in Brazil have been updated, so the numbers below are no longer viable. You would have to ask when in Forteleza, but FORTY states above that most numbers now start with a 3. It is possible that adding a 3 may make the numbers viable.
Abelle No 1
Near Praia de Iracema
248 6363 Normal house in a residential neighborhood. 1 hour massage with manual relief is R$40. Choose this option and pay the girl directly for additional services. A programa (full service} R$50 or up, negotiable. Most attractive women insist on R$80. Clean, higher class, nice rooms.
9am to 2am
Anny Massagens
Av Humberto Monte 1934
Phone 287 3523
In front of padaria Priscila, Bairro Bela Vistasame. R$50 for 1 1/2 hours incall or outcall R$65 plus taxi for 2 hours. Girls live there 24 hours a day.
Bar da Marta
Praia da futuro
234 5403 50 an hour will accept 40
Excalibur
Praia do Futuro
234 7309
10 girls available 24 hours
Jena's Massagens
Av Rui Barbosa, 1934
224 3558
Model Agency
Edgar Falcao 140
R$50 1 hour incall
R$70 outcall plus taxi fare
Paradise
Rua Tenente Benevolo, 426
Praia deIracema
Phone 226 1477
24 hours
R$40 per hour R$50 1 1/2 hours
Outcall R$60 2 hours plus taxi fare
Patricia
Phone 281 2653
Taxi drivers recommend this
R$120 1-2 hours incall
outcall 3 hours includes driving time R$150 - R$170 plus taxi. Commission paid to taxi drivers.
Rua Major
Facundes 279, Centro
Movie theatre with girls
RuaTorres
Portugal 113
Parque Aracha
RuaSenador Pompeu corner of Senador Alencar
Hours 4pm to 10pm
Where the Brazilians go.
Escorts
Crystal Relax
262 4458
Rua Bento Albuquerque 768
Open 12 noon till midnight. Nice, clean towel includes bed sheets. Half way to Praia do futuro, if you don't see what you like head towards the famous Excalibur at Praia do Futuro. Crystal Relax has a Sauna and Swimming Pool.
Models Agency Star's
Modelos Universitarias
de outdoor e garotas de propaganda
9972 6141
R$150 2 hours they come to you. Claim to have over 100 girls. See the talent via a local TV show see one you like and call.
Agencia Brazil Fashion Models
9975 1818
200 to 400 2 hours. You must become a member to use the full services, members see a fashion show once a month with 20 girls in one-piece bathing suits.
Strip Clubs
Boite Barbarela Show
Av Mr. Hull 4382
Phone 235 7736
Many Brazilian customers
Boite Tropical
Av. Bezerrra de Menezes 935
Phone (85) 283 4486
Strippers and freelancers found inside and outside the club. Admission charge R$10. Closed Mondays. Owner known to do live sex show with the girls.
Disigual NOTE: Forty states above that this place is out of business.
Praia de Iracema
Like Rio's "Help". Many foreigners go here. No admission. Club Africa next door takes over when this club is full. Several other clubs all within walking distance.
Athenas: Praia de Meireles
Opposite McDonalds, used to be Africa Nightclub. Girls hang around outside at night asking 50 an hour, 80 all night
Newspapers
Diario
[url]http://www.diariodonordeste.com.br[/url]
O Povo
[url]http://www.opovo.com.br[/url]
Look for large classified section. O Diario has a section "Termas E Acompanhantes" section.
Papers have numerous ads for girls.
Apartments
Atlantico
Av. Abolicao, 2111
Meireles
Phone 085 248 2104
One & Two bedroom apartments w/full kitchen, veranda, bedroom with sliding door, R$80 one person, high season. Low season starts at R$50. Monthly rates from 1000 (low season) first floor (no view) to about 1500 on upper floors (up to about 20th floor, spectacular ocean views). Near Praia de Iracema, half a block from beach, close to downtown. Visitors no problem, but age checks done on girls.
[url]http://www.atlanticoflat.com.br/[/url]
Hi Pluto2,
Great info that you passed on.Wll be there hoperfuly this feb. for 5 weeks I will certainly check out this places.
But about the flat , is it safe in fort. to get a flat or am i better off with the hotel.
Sorry Pluto2, but I've 2 questions:
Telephone number in Fortaleza begins with 3 and after there are 7 numbers, so, a normal number is
3283 4486 (8 numbers in total)
And it's so from 2004, October; so, your phone numbers seems quite old. The same from Desigual: last summer was closed; the boate changed owner and position, with bad results; Africa too was a bad option, too much better Kapital, Cafè del Mar, Bikini Bar e Europa Bar.
If I'm wrong, many changes in months.
Just my 2 cents
Waiting for news,
Forty
QUOTE=Pluto2]I am thinking about Fortaleza and am doing some data mining. Enjoy
Boite Tropical
Av. Bezerrra de Menezes 935
Phone (85) 283 4486
Disigual
Praia de Iracema
Like Rio's "Help". Many foreigners go here. No admission. Club Africa next door takes over when this club is full. Several other clubs all within walking distance.
Thanks for the feedback.
Yes it is a bit out of date, but still the best list I have seen.
If you have the info to edit the report and re-post with current info, it would be great!
I'll edit the suggestions you made and delete the dead clubs.
Pluto2, great job compiling that list!
By the way, has anyone ever tried that Atlanticoflat website to rent an apartment? Are they reliable?
[url]http://diariodonordeste.globo.com
Tried this web site
Classified => Social and Leisure => Encontros => Relax Acompanhantes
About 30 listings pop for the 3 and 9 prefix. Use the google translation tool to translate the page to English or whatever you like to read.
Ads that are hiring garotas are OK to call since they have a business with an address. The farm in the country with the pool, soccer feild and garotas sounds interesting.
If you search the web for Termas, check the site carefully as half the listings that pop in brazil R M4M.
Anybody in Fortaleza at the moment? How about Kapital and the bars around, still open or are some of them closed (as someone reported below)?
Last time - actually my very last day in Brazil - bikini bar was closed for some reason. But this was beginning November...
If I am lucky enough, I'll be going to Brazil in June again. Would be sad to discover the scene has changed to worse :-(
Pyjama
Hi Pyjama
The scene in Fortaleza is again hot. Bikini bar is always open, Kapital has changed ownwers and name (actually is "Forrò mambo" , names of typical dance of Cearà and Cuba) and is again open (since dec., 27); other disco, like Europa and Cafè del Mar are very full.
New options for mongers are: Armazen 47 on Wednesday (from midnight until 3 a.m. you can find the best pro that after go in Cafè and ex-Kapital, obviously well and normal dressed, and you have to know them) and on Friday in Lounge Beach, that is a barraca in Praia do Futuro, a little far from the scene. Be careful that most of the girls are not-pro and some time with friends.
Quality of girls and range is constant, with many new entries, very young, quite cute, horny and not too much clever, IMHO .
Happy return,
Forty
[QUOTE=Pyjama]Anybody in Fortaleza at the moment? How about Kapital and the bars around, still open or are some of them closed (as someone reported below)?
Last time - actually my very last day in Brazil - bikini bar was closed for some reason. But this was beginning November...
If I am lucky enough, I'll be going to Brazil in June again. Would be sad to discover the scene has changed to worse :-(
Pyjama[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Forty]... very young, quite cute, horny and not too much clever, IMHO .
Forty[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your answer!
Yes, I also got this impression: "not too clever". One girl again and again tried to fuck me bareback, which I definitely declined. Why did she do this? She claimed it would be much more pleasant (muito mais gostoso) but wasn't she aware of the risks she'd be taking? Not only thinking about STDs, I know some of the garotas don't even take the pill...
One the other had maybe she was more clever than I am, just trying to get a pregnancy and my citizenship out of this business. So I would have been taking a serious risk!
But I did enjoy her BBBJCIM very much :-)
Pyjama
Guys,
what's the lowdown on hotels in "Forta"?
I will be there at the end of march and like to stay on the beach. I'm willing to pay for moderate or slightly higher place. For example, I stay at the Rio Roiss in Copa, or the Sol Ipanema in Ipanema. I'd like to be right across from the beach where there is good mongering opportunity. And not too far from the clubs.
Any help would be apreciated.
And if anyone will be around then, lemme know. We could do a bit of "teamwork"...
Hi, Bambino, some news for you.
The best beach (=praia) is Praia do Futuro, with good service, restaurants and shows (music alive) in the evening. You have to check this places: Coco Beach, Atlantis, Chico do Caranguejo and Croco Beach, all the taxy drivers know them, bus drivers too.
The beach is a bit far from the nigthlife action, so i think is better to stay in hotel in Beira Mar, or in Abolicao (first avenue after Beira Mar),that has many flats for rent.
In Praia do futuro, more in the evening, there are most of girls you can find at nigth (enough looking for micro bikini (= fiu dental) and piercing, they are like a badge...); obviously, there are also normal girls, especially in weekends, and semi-pro.
More of the waiters can help you in choice and contacts, with a little tip!
Travel costs abot 8 $ (15-20 R$) from Beira Mar, only 1.60 R$ with bus.
In Beira mar barracas (=estlablishments) are uncomfortable, the action is good, but you have to be more more careful.. there are thieves, envolved in drugs, in girls too, with lower quality of them.
Hotels in Beira mar cost about 80-100 R$ (Ibis Fortaleza, Sol Jangada, Comfort Hotel, Esplanada Praia) or more (Ponta Mar, Parthenon Golden, Luzeiros, Hotel Quality).
Good choice are the flats in Abolicao: Via Venetto, Spazzio, Brasil Tropical, Fortaleza flat, etc (80-100 R$ with clounge and kitchen).
Beira Mar and Abolicao have low nightlife (only in front of Mc Donald and Pizza Hut there GDP or SW), so you have to go in Praia de Iracema (Cafe do mar, etc), ONLY WITH TAXI AT NIGHT (especially when you're going back) , no pay more of 10R$ .
I'll post some photo in the Photo section, hope you like (she's a very wonderful girl from Beira mar).
Happy hunting and waiting for your report, ehehe...
Forty
[QUOTE=Bambino]Guys,
What's the lowdown on hotels in "Forta"?
I will be there at the end of march and like to stay on the beach. I'm willing to pay for moderate or slightly higher place. For example, I stay at the Rio Roiss in Copa, or the Sol Ipanema in Ipanema. I'd like to be right across from the beach where there is good mongering opportunity. And not too far from the clubs.
Any help would be apreciated.
Hi Bambino;
I was there in Dec, 2005. I stayed in an apartment so I can't comment about holets. It was hard for me to find any apts at that time on the internet due to high season. But, I found a 3 bedroom (there were three of us) on Beira Mar Ave, 2nd floor apt right on the beach. I got it though thedutchtouch.com. I am sure they can find you a one bed room with no problem. The apartment was Ideally located, also it was the best I have ever stayed in. You must rent for a 7 dat minimum. We paid about $30.00 US each per night. It was my first time there and I brought my ticket last week for two weeks in May 2006. I am not much of a typest but I would be glad to share with anyone what I know about the place. I do not have any photos to share. I would also like to stimulate more reports of places to visit other than the two or three main locations for girls. I don't speak the language at all. My frien speaks some spanish and that has gotten us along fine.
last night i saw a news report on redetv about the praia de iracema scene in fortaleza.
they were underlining how easy it is to buy drugs in that area. they also mentioned something about **** prostitution, which i missed because i just zapped onto that channel. there was covert video showing people offering drugs etc.
they talked about how many europeans are visiting praia de iracema and insinuatating that they are a large part of the scene, including prostitution.
because of this report going to air last night and tonight, i would be more cautious about extra police checks the next week or so. it may stir things up.
carry your passport or a notarised copy if you are in iracema. and don't carry any drugs.
just a heads up.
[QUOTE=Bambino]I'd like to be right across from the beach where there is good mongering opportunity. And not too far from the clubs.[/QUOTE]
If you want a beach for swimming, go to Praia do Futuro. If you want to stay close to the clubs, stay in Iracema. Two different places: takes about 20 minutes with a taxi to go from Iracema to Futuro. Have a look:
[url]http://www.flatshop.com.br/localizacao.php[/url]
Iracema is the part of Fortaleza where you will find Kapital, Bikini bar, Europa, Zipi and the like. I am afraid you wouldn't want to go swimming on the beach nearby. But you will find working girls in the barracas of Praia de Meireles. Just keep your eyes open!
Futuro is a much nicer beach, the water is cleaner and you get a better surf. Many of the working girls of Iracema spend the daytime there. But apart from the big barracas on the beach there is nothing to do in Futuro. Yes, on some nights of the week certain barracas have live music and party, but you don't want to spend the night in this somewhat remote area of Fortaleza.
So my personal suggestion would be to get a hotel/appartment in Iracema or Meireles, and take a taxi for the beach or for a party in one of the barracas. But then return to the city!
Just my 2 cents...
Pyjama
[QUOTE=Cachorro]Carry your passport or a notarised copy if you are in Iracema. [/QUOTE]
Thanks guys for the info!
Where can you get a notarised copy of your passport in Fortaleza? And what's its price?
What's the going rate for a taxi Iracema-Futuro? Do taxis use metres (that they try not to use) like in Rio? Are there any public buses that cover that route?
Thanks,
A taxi to Praia do Futuro will cost you around 20R$, maybe 25R$. I didn't use taxis that often, but never did I have any hassle with the meter. Or I just negociated a fixed price before the ride.
Public busses cover that route, no problem! It's the mid-sized white busses with the number XXX52. They are going all the way from downtown Fortaleza via Avenida Presidente Castelo Branco, Avenida Monsenhor Tabosa and Avenida da Abolicao to Praia do Futuro. Pay 1.60 R$ one way. These busses will stop to pick you up where ever you are, just wave and make yourself seen. Don't take the number XXX11 bus, their final destination is no further than the harbour area....
[QUOTE=Gladiator]What's the going rate for a taxi Iracema-Futuro? Do taxis use metres (that they try not to use) like in Rio? Are there any public buses that cover that route?[/QUOTE]
Bus: Caça e Pesca
[QUOTE=Gladiator]Thanks guys for the info!
Where can you get a notarised copy of your passport in Fortaleza? And what's its price?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Gladiator, you can get you passport notarized at any Carteria. There are many in Rio (if you are Rio) and in Fortaleza, as well as other cities. The Carteria I used in Fortaleza was in Aldeota (near the Mall). The cost was no more than about R$10.
Simply photo copy your passport first, then present both the copy and the passport to them, at which time they will notarize it. After which you can get it laminated. You may want to reduce the copy to a nice wallet size (or pocket size) for easy transport.
Ciao
Spidy
Why would you waste your time and money to notarise a copy of your passport?
If police REALLY wants to see your documents any copy, notarised or not just won't do. Only original passport is the thing. Just get a colour copy before your trip, keep it with you and if you get into a situation where police needs to see your papers show the copy.
If they insist seeing the original, bring them to your accommodations. Let them wait in the lobby. Never let them into the room. Show the doc. Not having an ID is a minor thing, unless you are under suspect of some more serious crime.
Perkele, where did you get that advice? You are wrong.
If the police really want to hassle you, you will not have the opportunity to go back to your accommodation with them and show the passport. You will be taken in to the station and someone will have to bring your ID.
A notarised copy of your passport should be valid ID for the police check.
This may seem a bit extreme, but if I were in Fortaleza right now I would get the notarised copy. There is a history of mongers being ID checked and hauled into the station when the authorities want to appear strong on law and order. Just read back in this thread and you will see that it has happened within the last year.
[QUOTE=Perkele]Why would you waste your time and money to notarise a copy of your passport?
If police REALLY wants to see your documents any copy, notarised or not just won't do. Only original passport is the thing. Just get a colour copy before your trip, keep it with you and if you get into a situation where police needs to see your papers show the copy.
If they insist seeing the original, bring them to your accommodations. Let them wait in the lobby. Never let them into the room. Show the doc. Not having an ID is a minor thing, unless you are under suspect of some more serious crime.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Perkele]Why would you waste your time and money to notarise a copy of your passport?
If police REALLY wants to see your documents any copy, notarised or not just won't do. Only original passport is the thing. Just get a colour copy before your trip, keep it with you and if you get into a situation where police needs to see your papers show the copy.
If they insist seeing the original, bring them to your accommodations. Let them wait in the lobby. Never let them into the room. Show the doc. Not having an ID is a minor thing, unless you are under suspect of some more serious crime.[/QUOTE]
A notorised copy IS valid for ID. 100% sure. Unnotarised copy isn´t enough.
The cost for a notorised copy is low, less than R$10, and it´s made in 10 minutes. It´s a good thing to always carry with you anywhere in Brazil.
Thanks for the helpful advice!
Perkele, as others have already clarified, a notirised copy is a legally valid document - just a copy doesn't mean shit (think of how easy it is to fake a copy).
Also, if you show the cops a notirised copy they'll know you're not the average newbie, so you're more unlikely to be hassled.
Sure, if they want to set you up they will, even with drugs or whatever, but they'd do so if that was their intention to start with, whetever you show them, so that's a different subject.
Whoa!!!
When has the law changed? During my last visit in Nov 05 the notarised copy wasn't worth of the paper it was printed on.
Please do correct me, but the LAW states that only original PASSPORT or a residence permit with a picture is legal. If police accepts your notarised copy he has made an error.
Anyway I have always had an opportunity to get my docs when needed. Also a copy has been sufficient.
I'm not actually against the idea of having a notarised copy of the passport with you, BUT do not be surprised if you're treated as if you did not have your ID with you. This is absolutely something that POLICE can decide on the spot.
Actually if you have couple of these pink parrot pictured papers with you, they will be accepted as an ID.
last night the police (federal, militar, civil) made a blitz in iracema. closed down (at least for 1 night) mamboo, europa, bikini etc. the reason for the blitz was that **** girls were found in the clubs.
they checked id for lots of gringos. no valid id, pay a fine or simply go behind some cars and bribe them of. they didn´t check my id but i took the opportunity to ask a pf if my notorised passport copy was valid as a id. yes, it was.
the pf i spoke to seemed mostly interested in hazzling italians. partly because they already this year have taken two italians involved in trafficing girls and having sex with minors.
i guess if they really wants to hassle you, by some reason, they will try to do it not mattering what kind of id you carry.
bad business for the girls yesterday.
Thanks guys, fot all the info. It is a tremendous help.
My regular travel buddy won't be making this trip, so I have pledged to do a thorough evaluation of Fortaleza. We've been to Rio and Recife. He was the pioneer.
I will be sure to contribute a thorough report and plenty of photos. I'm a photo nut!
Gentelmen,
I'm having a bit of trouble with the "lay of the land".
I'm checking out hotels and the addresses, as you know, never have cross street info. One map I found shows Beira Mar ( I gather it is the avenue along the beach. But for how far? Is it only along Mucuripe?, or does it stretch all the way past Pra.Iracema and beyond?
And, is Mucuripe any more expensive than Meireles or Iracema? I think I understand that Iracema is not the nicest area, but where the "action" is.
Thanks in advance,
Bambino
Hi Bambino!
For a detailed map of Fortaleza try out [url]www.map24.com[/url] By default setting it will start with Europe. Just click South America, then enter "Fortaleza" as your destination and of course choose number 1 :-) You can zoom in and this map will provide even the smallest street!
Here's a list of hotels in Ceara and Fortaleza [url]http://www.ceara.com.br/ceara/hoteis_pousadas_ceara.htm[/url] The really good hotels indeed are in Mucuripe and Meireles, so be prepared to spend more money there.
Last time I spent 3 nights in [url]http://www.casablancahoteis.com.br/[/url] Good, clean, inexpensive. Staff was very friendly to my garota. Just make sure you book and pay a double room...
I wished I could plan _MY_ next trip :-((
Pyjama
P.J.,
thanks for the links. But I have one more question: Where the hell is Av. Beira Mar?
I went to the map site (it's incredible), but I zoom all the way in and never find it. It looks like the road along the beach is John Kennedy and Abolicao...
[QUOTE=Bambino]P.J.,
Thanks for the links. But I have one more question: Where the hell is Av. Beira Mar?
I went to the map site (it's incredible), but I zoom all the way in and never find it. It looks like the road along the beach is John Kennedy and Abolicao...[/QUOTE]Its between Av. Abolição and the ocean!
Well, maybe the official name of that avenida is "Kennedy", but this is identically the same as "Av. Beira Mar". Also, that makes sense, as "beira mar" roughly translates to "seashore".
Pyjama
Now I have enough info to get things confirmed.
This board ROCKS!
It will be 4 days, with the option to go back to Rio for 4 more, or hang around in Forta. I guess things will declare themselves.
In Brasil, you ask 10 people a question, and get 10 different answers. Trust me, a notarized copy is a hit or miss with law enforcement. I rec. carrying a passport. It is easy enough to replace.
[QUOTE=Sperto]A notorised copy IS valid for ID. 100% sure. Unnotarised copy isn´t enough.
The cost for a notorised copy is low, less than R$10, and it´s made in 10 minutes. It´s a good thing to always carry with you anywhere in Brazil.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amerioca]...I rec. carrying a passport. It is easy enough to replace.[/QUOTE]
Thanks God, I don't have experience with this! But how do you "easily" replace a document when your next embassy is 2000 km away and there isn't even a consulate in town?? How do you pass security at the airport without a personal document once you want to get to your embassy??
So if it is hit or miss anyway, I'd try the copy first. Loose it and you still have your official document :-)
Pyjama
If you lose your passport in a city faraway from your nearest consulate/embassy -such as Fortaleza, in my case- you are in deep shit, that’s why I’d rather carry a notarised copy, or even risk getting a fine/bribe for not having my passport on me, than carry it and risk losing it, getting it stolen or wet (invalidated) because an idiot threw accidentally a drink on me in a packed disco.
[QUOTE=Gladiator]If you lose your passport in a city faraway from your nearest consulate/embassy -such as Fortaleza, in my case- you are in deep shit, that’s why I’d rather carry a notarised copy, or even risk getting a fine/bribe for not having my passport on me, than carry it and risk losing it, getting it stolen or wet (invalidated) because an idiot threw accidentally a drink on me in a packed disco.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I understand your points. Certainly, those risks and/or worries mentioned can be incurred at any time, when travelling abroad. However, I prefer to have a passport to show, should asked by the authorites. And, I'm certain that you are aware that several of our forum brothers have been taken-in with notarized copies...in Fortaleza.
I rec. a passport plastic cover if you are concerned about water damage. Most travel shops sell the item. Purchased mine for a few bucks at the local AAA.
[QUOTE=Pyjama]Thanks God, I don't have experience with this! But how do you "easily" replace a document when your next embassy is 2000 km away and there isn't even a consulate in town?? How do you pass security at the airport without a personal document once you want to get to your embassy??
So if it is hit or miss anyway, I'd try the copy first. Loose it and you still have your official document :-)
Pyjama[/QUOTE]
It is the "miss" that I'm concerened about....for myself, and fellow bro's of this forum. There is nothing more "official" than a valid passport from your country, with an actual visa. A b/w or color copy of your passport with a cartorio stamp, simply, does not compare. And considering this is a leading country of fraud, it can give an excuse for a PM or PC to question its validity and/or argue such. In any case, should such occur, it usually leads to a bribe, extortion, and/or worse. I will not give them that oppurtunity.
Trust me, those notaries at the cartorio will notorize anything....with enough money. My experiences come from buying and/or renting property, AND in this process, included notorizing my passport. So, yes, I am all too familiar with the cartorios.
Also, I'm sure most of you have done your homework on Forta. As you know, there are many persons over-staying their visas. And the police are aware of such. In fact, taking in those that are suspect w/notorized copies... So, if you wish to battle on the front-lines with a back-up copy instead of an original, so be it.
Even though your example is going off on a tangent, I will entertain you. Veteran travellers lose their passports, monies, etc...true. And in your example, that would be a FUCKED situation. However, does this person have no means of contacting anyone or anybody, and have no monies? I'm certain that this person likely prepared him/her-self before travelling to this BFE destination. If not, he/she is an idiot...period.
Although I do not wish to cover in great detail on how to prepare for a stranded situation, here are some basic fundamentals before travelling: 1.) Register with embassy, 2.) Emergency numbers, and 3.) Language basics. Of course, not neccessarily in this order.
As stated earlier, I do have notarized copies of my passport.
Some have been given to close Brasilian friends in case of emergency and legal purposes, if needed. Also, in my travels, I have stuffed them in my suitcases, bags, etc. However, none go with me to the front-lines of mongering...I bring my passport.
Valeu.
[QUOTE=Amerioca]However, none go with me to the front-lines of mongering...I bring my passport. [/QUOTE]
Always carrying a passport with me that doesn´t sound very convenient. Imagine if you go to the beach, a streetcarnival or go for partying. A notorised copy you can just fold together and put it in your wallet. If you loose it you´ll just get a new one in no time.
Getting a new passport is both expensive and a waste of time.
If I would carry my passport with me at all time I would need to worry about losing it. The Police could decide to keep your passport and force you to pay a bribe to get it back in return (they tried it once with me in SA).
Just a thought
I scanned my passport, credit cards, drivers liscense, birth cirtificate and some other info and e-mailed it to myself on yahoo. The files can be downloaded and viewed from anywhere including your embassy or consulate if need be.
My guess is that if the cops are honest, the nororized copy including the entry visa and your hotel key fob may do it.
If the cops are dishonest, grabbing your passport and holding it for ransom would suck.
Good maners and patience are always a good idea when dealing with the PD
[QUOTE=Sperto]Always carrying a passport with me that doesn´t sound very convenient. Imagine if you go to the beach, a streetcarnival or go for partying. A notorised copy you can just fold together and put it in your wallet. If you loose it you´ll just get a new one in no time.
Getting a new passport is both expensive and a waste of time.
If I would carry my passport with me at all time I would need to worry about losing it. The Police could decide to keep your passport and force you to pay a bribe to get it back in return (they tried it once with me in SA).[/QUOTE]
Convenience is subjective. My US Passport is thin, and slightly bigger than an avg. billfold. I usually carry it in a hidden pocket of my shorts or pants, and no other items are in the same compartment.
I do not worry about losing my passport, no more than losing my wallet, keys, etc. Certainly, there are corrupt cops which request a gratuity irregardless of what papers presented, however, it happens. When such occurs, I usually state names of persons whom I personally know in the PM or PC. Most times, I say, "Tudo bem, we will resolve this RIGHT NOW, let me call Colonel XXXXXX. And he will not be happy about calling so late."
Yeah, around this time, several years ago, the policia had a blitz going at Help. They went in, separated the guys from the girls, and started checking documents. Pulling gringos out with notarized copies and without any ID for further questioning. Guys with PASSPORTS were OK. OGlobo was there too. Same year Fiscal(in front of Othon) got arrested....BTW, I was with him when it happened....insane shit!@
So, did you pay in SA?
[QUOTE=Pluto2]Just a thought
I scanned my passport, credit cards, drivers liscense, birth cirtificate and some other info and e-mailed it to myself on yahoo. The files can be downloaded and viewed from anywhere including your embassy or consulate if need be.
My guess is that if the cops are honest, the nororized copy including the entry visa and your hotel key fob may do it.
If the cops are dishonest, grabbing your passport and holding it for ransom would suck.
Good maners and patience are always a good idea when dealing with the PD[/QUOTE]
Definately, ransom does suck. If the cops are dishonest, NO documents would satisfy them. Again, my argument; more efficient and productive to show a passport vs. notarized copy under normal conditions of an id check.
That is, making the cops job easier. Lowering your contact and/or interaction time with cop.
[QUOTE=Amerioca]So, did you pay in SA?[/QUOTE]
No, I didn´t pay.
In Brazil the Police asked me for ID maybe twice the last 15 years (except at the airport). I never really had any bad encounters with the police (I never mess with drugs or minors).
I prefer to let my contacts with the police be in a horizontal position in a bed. I think the female PM in Brazil are so sexy, specially in Bahia.
[QUOTE=Sperto]I think the female PM in Brazil are so sexy, specially in Bahia.[/QUOTE]
Ai mano, I know what you are talking about. Valeu!
In Fortaleza for few days. If anyone would like to catch up for a drink PM me.
Got to say not overwhelmed yet.
Went to Zipi Bar, Cafe and Mambo last night. The 6 or so girls I talked to all wanted R150 (funny how they all said the same price). When I said R50 they laughed :-)
This was not just at the start of the night. I guess I could have got them down to R100 if I was lucky but I doubt it.
I was only talking to the prettier girls but not stunners in my book.
I think the place is very busy. Lots and lots of dumb guys on holiday paying anything the girls ask so the grils ask Rio prices.
I guess the trick is to only come in low season?
I have read about all the problems in Rio, with the Police closing down establishments and making a lot of fuss.
Has there been any police "harassment" lately in Fortaleza?
I took 4 days out of my Rio trip to check out Fortaleza, first hand.
I got in friday night. Stayed at Hotel Ponta Mar. Towards the end of Iracema beach. I found out the hard way, that they are NOT girl friendly. In fact, I spent a number of hours the next day finding out that there are NO hotels along the beach that are.
This is a very nice place. Good vibe, a number of universities, great food. But it is a vacation destination for brazilians. They keep the GDP activities pretty unseen in the area of the hotels.
Funny thing, I ran into a couple gauchas sipping out a Matte goard ( I forget what they call it in brazil , but it isn´t matte). One totally flipped a switch for me. Then she asked if I´d like to share a cup with her. She and her friends were on the way out of town the next morning; early. She asked if I´d like to meet in the lobby when I got back from dinner. That, we did. I met her sis and other friend. All we could do is exchange e-mail addresses. Ouch!, what a near miss. The girl even figured out what room I was staying in and slipped a note under my door on her way out! This kind of thing has happened to me 3 times now, in Brazil. It has never happened in the U.S. in 45 years! ( I wonder why I learned portugese, and keep coming back?).
From there, I went to Bikini Bar. Got there and hung until 11:30. Didn´t see anything I would want to do. Very hard looking gals. Very young, with an incredible amount of adolescent showmanship....then off to the "quadrangle" of Zipi Bar, Forro Mambo, Europa, and one other. Girls all out in the street. Like a clean vila mimosa. A mob scene of hookery. The places are pretty empty until 1, or so. I went up into Zipi. Nothing. And the music was weak. They were pumpin some good stuff across the street at Europa, so I went over there. All these places are re-entry.
In Europa I spotted one that woould be satisfactory. Actually pretty damn sexy. $200, she asked. We settled on 150R. That´s when we got to the hotel to find out "no guests". I couldn´t even bribe the guy. So we go this shitty motel (a la vila mimosa, damn near). Tele didn´t work. Good thing the shower did.
It was ok., nothing special. The crappy sex environment, feeling of displacement, being tired as hell, all contributed to a below par experience.
Next afternoon I went to the apt. of "Karolzinha". Well reviewed on gpguia. She has a rather nice place. She´s about 27. Face-5, about 4'10", curvy, but well toned. Despite it all, this girl has a flawless ass. perfect shape, etc. Oh, and definitely on the chubby side. She was sweet as hell. And rather fun. But not what I came to the other side of the world for.
That evening I went to Armazen. Supposeedly the highest tier club with GDP's. The place is huge. 3 different clubs in one. One, with live full band entertainment. These girls have a particular esthetic. I concluded this after observing about 300 of them parade in after midnight. These girls are tiny!!! Ave. ht. seemed to be about 4'11". No waist, pretty chunky, skinny legs. That´s if they are not so frail looking that they might break. This might be someone elsés look, but not mine. That´s why I don´t go to Bankok.
I couldn´t believe this. I had seen some really sweet honeys all about, during the day. Many of these are likely tourists.
Saw one that I would have put some time into, but the thought of having to find a motel, etc.... I just bailed. And this girl was not on the program. Or at least not the type I was on (being here for just another day, or so.
So, back to the "quadrangle". The quad. is only a few blocks away from Armazen. It´s a dark walk; and a bit intimidating, but it is safe. Not a lot of crime in this town.
By this time it was about 2:30. I didn´t see anything that motivated me. And the place was packed tight. Shoulder to shoulder.
There is another club called Mercuripe Club. Supposedly another rung up, but NOT primarily a "programma" environment. Karolzinha told me there were effectively no working girls there.It was closed anyway.
I´ll be heading back to Rio a day early, tomorrow. Too many great things to do there, mongering and not.
Well, there it is. Not too pretty, but it was just my own impression. If anyone isn´t so sure, please go there yourself and report back. I don´t have any photos because I wasn´t inspired to take any.( of the chicas, that is).
The Ponta Mar was about 240BRL. Has a very good pool, if you need to swim. Very friendly staff.
And a good place to eat is Tia Nair. Down to the left from the hotel, about a mile. A beautiful walk along the beach.
Ordem e Progresso...
[quote=bambino]i took 4 days out of my rio trip to check out fortaleza, first hand.
[/quote]
very good report bambino, i agree with you 100% about the girls being 'very young' what botherered me when i was in for last year was that there were some girls in the clubs (i think it was europa bar) who were clearly ****, yet the bouncers let them in the club for some reason, i'm not sure if they had fake ids or what. as for your hotel situation, from what i gathered, there aren't a lot of girl friendly hotels in the city, although there are some that will allow guests for a steep fee. your best bet would have been getting an apartment.
did you check out the berraca in front of the mcdonalds on av. biera mar? i actually had my best luck with garotas there, as opposed to the 'quadrangle' you mentioned. and were there any police raids on the clubs while you were there? it seemed to be a common thing in fortaleza for the cops to raid one of the clubs and then leave with a bunch of italians and gdps without id.
imho, fortaleza may be the most overrated mongering destination in brasil, if not all of south america.
I’ve just completed a 2-week sexpedition in NE Brazil, where I’ve researched the holy sites of Natal and Fortaleza.
In principle, my trip wasn’t exclusively mongering-orientated as I was also interested in some other activities, such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord119][CodeWord119][/url] or swimming with dolphins in a beach in which I had heard they can easily be found, however due to the scale of the mongering scene in these 2 cities I was soon drawn into a spiral of non-stop pussy hunting during my whole stay - though I did manage to spot a dolphin one night in Fortaleza.
The dolphin had turned 18 yo just 1 month ago, but despite her youth she already showed some impressive natural exuberance.
Those were the kind of exuberant curves that can rarely be found out of Brazil at that early age.
But before continuing with more digressions, let’s first go where it all started: Natal.
(To be continued in the Natal thread)
After spending a few days in Natal I started to get used to the warm climate, the new time zone and, most importantly, the new pussy zone.
I find it relatively easy to adjust to a new time zone, but adjusting to a new pussy zone takes me longer: I can easily believe that it is 4 hours less that when I boarded the plane back home, but it really takes me a few days to get used to the idea that I have access to hundreds of pussies more than before boarding the plane.
So it was now time to hit the true destination of my sex odyssey: Fortaleza.
I took the 12 noon bus from Natal to Fortaleza, which was an ‘executive’ bus, that is the AC was stronger than usual, in fact it was freezing inside, but I survived the polar temperatures of that bus and arrived in Fortaleza at about 8 pm.
When I finally got off the bus my body was cold but my mind was hot, still aware of the pussy zone in which I was, so I headed for the hotel, took a shower and went out to have dinner and enjoy my first night in this city.
From what I had read during my preliminary research on Fortaleza, I had learnt that there were 2 schools of thoughts: one claiming that Fortaleza was utter shit and going there was an absolute waste of time because there is no way you can find any quality girls, and another, more eclectic, suggesting that despite the fact that many girls in Fortaleza wouldn’t qualify for a beauty contest (to put it mildly), with patience and some work good quality girls could be found more often than not.
I was now about to personally discover the truth, which I found exciting.
At about midnight I hit Ground Zero, the mongering epicentre of Fortaleza, the heart of Iracema, where the main clubs are, and also one of the safest places in the whole country as there were about 20-30 policemen in a strip of about 50m long, some of them even with anti-riot gear, which I don’t quiet understand yet. There was also a police station round the corner.
Anyway, I knew I wasn’t going to be mugged in Ground Zero. I felt safe. They also check passports from time to time, but that’s a small price to pay for the security they provide.
I checked first the pussy flows in the infamous corner in the centre of Ground Zero, then I checked out the club Bikini, where there was nothing of interest, in fact there were some really ugly and old girls in there, so I moved on to Café del Mar.
Café del Mar deserved a more careful analysis as there were loads of girls, the lighting was good and the girls moved around all the time so you could evaluate most of them by staying in your strategic position, and launch an attack when necessary, without wasting too much energy walking around.
I was anchored in my place, on the 2nd floor, for almost one hour, and had already spotted about 3-4 acceptable specimens, though nothing outstanding, when suddenly this cutie appeared on the horizon, that’s next to me, I noticed she was much better than what I had seen so far in Ground Zero, so chatted her up for a quick attitude test.
She passed the attitude test with high marks: she was a semipro, 20 yo, candid and innocent, just as I like them. No hard core personality traits at all, no shark behaviour, no money-hungry looks or comments, just a fresh, unspoilt and cute girl, with a great body and a beautiful face, a part-timer starting her Ground Zero career, she had a regular job and was also studying.
At 2 am I headed with my prey towards the hotel and stayed there till 4 am, I offered her 100 R$ for the 2 hrs and she accepted straightaway, I noticed she felt a bit uncomfortable when talking about money, as all good girls. Why did I offer that much for a ST in Fortaleza? I don’t know, I suppose I got too excited at such a succulent prey. This girl was as cute as some of the cutest girls I’ve had in Rio’s termas but without the commercialised attitude, and, most importantly, without the mileage. She was a diamond in the rough.
Once in the room she was as good as I had imagined during the attitude test, a real angel sent by Venus to welcome me to Fortaleza – her panties even read ‘Love’, she was so lovely…
After this find in a matter of 2 hours, I started to feel more inclined towards the second school of thoughts, the eclectic one, though this was just my first night, the research had just started, in fact the night had just started: it was 4 am when I finished with the Angel, the night was still young, so I took a taxi and headed for the most infamous disco in Ground Zero: Forro Mambo, where I got at about 4.05 am.
(To be continued)
Great report, makes me want to head north and explore outside of Rio.
No police raids when I was there.
And I didn't make it to any of the "barracas". Didn't know of one with p4p girls.
I heard there can be good pickin though. But I felt the need for efficiency this trip. With more time, I think Forta. could be fun.
But I don't think I'll be headed back.
Sao Paulo is calling me, and I've been corresponding with my gaucha friend down in Rio Grande do Sul...
Not to mention my travel buddy pushing me hard for Colombia in the fall.
The girl you found looked very attractive. Good report.
Regards Horatio
Ground Zero, 4.05 am
I got off the taxi, the anti-riot police were still around, in case there was a riot against mongers, I guess. The pussy flows were intense in all directions.
I got into Forro Mambo, where there was a 20 R$ cover charge. On the ground floor there was a live Forro band and loads of hookers, on the first floor there was a bar area from which you could still listen to the Forro downstairs and then a separate area, as if it was another disco, a black hole with low visibility and high volume dated techno-trance music. There were loads of hookers on the first floor too, naturally.
I preferred the black hole area to at least listen to some decent music, though this area for hunting was dreadful given its very poor lighting. I had a few overpriced drinks and at about 5.15 am I spotted a girl that I had seen earlier on in Café del Mar and chatted her up, she was one of the girls that I had checked out earlier in the night and included on my waiting-list, till the Angel turned up and eclipsed all the others, but this girl was an acceptable catch, anyway.
She turned out to be a sweetie, just 19 yo, with a smooth skin and a soft voice. We reached an agreement at 80 R$ for a couple of hours, so we headed back to the hotel where I had an excellent session, including CIM/F, the perfect end to my first night in this city.
When I finished with the Sweetie I looked through the window and saw for the first time the monger ocean in Fortaleza, it was so beautiful…
It was already light: a new day was starting.
(To be continued)
Over the following days it was business as usual: I used to hit the beach at about 3-4 pm each day, usually Coco Beach in Praia de Futuro, where there was always some action, then at night I hit the clubs and partied till after dawn.
Just a quick update on the current clubs:
Forro Mambo: as described above, the club to end up each day after 3-4 am, expensive drinks and cover charge, many hookers around but hostile lighting and music volume conditions. The Forro area is actually better for hunting, but you will have to put up with listening to Forro. Apart from the Sweetie I picked up a skinny girl another day, nothing special but she had a top GFE attitude and was very skilled.
Café del Mar: 15 R$ cover charge, dark on the ground floor but good lighting on the first floor, where the terrace is. This is IMO the best club for hunting in Ground Zero.
Europa: no cover charge, you can check the stock from the street most days as it is usually half empty, so there isn’t even need to get in if nothing interesting is in there.
Bikini: located above Europa, no cover charge, usually ugly girls only, though there might be a gem hidden now and then.
Zippy Bar: no cover charge, usually busy, some girls hanging out at the door on the street too. It’s worth checking out on your routine comb of the area.
Swing Club: the place to go after Mambo dies if you still have some energy left, I actually never got into it, I was going to check it out once but picked up one girl on the way and headed for my hotel, so I missed it. It’s your last option to pick up something as it’s open till 9 am.
All the above clubs are in Ground Zero, very close to each other, maximum 5 min walk, and are frequented exclusively by hookers, mongers and the police.
Then there are other clubs I checked out in which you can find some other types of human beings, such as non-pros. They are as follows:
Armazen: 5-10 min walk from Ground Zero, mostly pros and semi-pros but there are also a handful of non-pros thrown in. Open on Wed and Sat. Cover charge of about 10-20 R$ depending on the night. Cheap drinks.
Orbita: next to Armazen, mostly non-pros but there are sometimes a few semi-pros too. Cover charge of about 10-20 R$ and cheap drinks. Open from Thu to Sun.
Pirata: in Ground Zero, open on Mon (strong night), cover charge of 30 R$, mostly non-pros and middle-class Brazilians of all ages, but a few pros and semi-pros in the crowd too. It isn’t worth the time (nor the money) anyway, IMO.
Lounge Beach: a barraca in Praia do Futuro, a 20 R$ taxi ride from Iracema, great on Thu with a mixed crowd of pros, semi-pros and non-pros and excellent House music. Cover charge of 20 R$. If you like House music you will love this place, otherwise it hasn’t got much to offer in terms of mongering opportunities as the pros that you will see here are those that you will see every night in other places within the pros’ circles, no new faces.
Siqueira Club: half an hour taxi ride from Iracema. I had heard good things about this club but I went on Sun and it was closed, apparently it’s been closed for good recently, so forget about this place.
The action in all these places start late, from 10 pm onwards, if you go at midnight even better.
For daytime action, Coco beach in Praia de Futuro, as mentioned before, is a good option. I picked up one girl in Coco beach one day, who happened to be a hardcore, but she was OK to get some release after an afternoon on the beach watching all those hot bundas.
(To be continued)
praia de meireles is also good to pick up girls, both by day and by night, though the scene here is a bit rep001tered so some serious legwork is needed.
after sunset you will see plenty of people jogging along the beira mar strip, and you will see also a handful of hookers in some of the bars by the beach.
it was in meireles where i found one evening a girl with a brasil shirt and eyebrow piercing. i asked her for her id as she looked young and she put down her skirt a bit and took the id out of her panties – she kept the id on her pussy, she said that was a safe place.
anyway, she was 20 so i took her to my room. her skills repertory was well developed, but i found her a bit mechanical and cold, she didn’t provide that personalised service that i found in other girls in fortaleza: she fucked on autopilot.
(to be continued)
I did a few more girls during my stay. Getting a BBBJ or fucking a hottie become something as routine as having a beer, as it usually does when you are at the peak of a sex odyssey and when you start losing count of how many girls you’ve done since you landed in the country.
Life was still beautiful, though. I felt as if I had always lived in Fortaleza, I felt at home. The past had disappeared from my mind and so had the future: I was trapped in the present.
I hunted several girls just by walking around Gorund Zero, which is a cheap and exciting way of finding preys.
One of them, the Puta, was an interesting girl. I hunted her down at about 5 am one night and negotiated a ST for 100 R$ till 7 am. She was an average girl, but had great knockers and curvy eyelashes. I love curvy eyelashes, they turn me on. I’ve found curvy eyelashes to be present also in some of Kenya’s girls, so I guess that is a feature that comes from Africa.
Sex with the Puta was great, she really got involved and went the extra mile to ensure I enjoyed myself, but sex with other girls had been great too, so what made the Puta special was her insight into the art of *****dom and the mongering scene overall.
The Puta used to have a regular job in a factory, working 12 hours per day, 6 days a week, since she was 17 yo, and earning 300 R$ per month. The nightmare went on for 2 years, she even started to have some back problems because of the physically demanding and repetitive job, then one day she discovered the world of mongering: she found out thanks to a friend that there were some discos were foreign guys went in search of some fun, and they paid some serious money for it, so she gave it a try and she hasn’t looked back since then.
She said the mongering scene had provided her liberation as a human being: before she was an alienated slave killing herself for a miserable wage that led nowhere, now she was earning big bucks, supporting her entire family and having a fun lifestyle.
She said the day she discovered she was a puta was as if she had been born again: it was the most important day in her life.
She used to repeat the word ‘puta’ a lot while talking.
Becoming a puta meant getting back control over her own life, becoming a person again and quitting the factory hell. It was the light at the end of the tunnel.
I could feel her excitement for that light, between her curvy eyelashes.
At 20 yo, she was now a happy puta, a fulfilled girl.
She thought that all girls in fact are putas, but many of them haven’t realised it yet, they haven’t yet received the revelation, they are dormant putas or, more often, amateurish putas. In that sense, she as a conscious puta had an advantage over all the others who hadn’t yet become aware of their true nature. She was happy to be a puta, because becoming a puta was the best thing that could ever happen to a lower-class girl in a city like Fortaleza.
She was an intelligent girl.
(To be continued)
Tell me why I've already heard this before....small world small world.
[QUOTE=Gladiator]
[b]She thought that all girls in fact are putas, but many of them haven’t realised it yet, they haven’t yet received the revelation[/b], they are dormant putas or, more often, amateurish putas. In that sense, she as a conscious puta had an advantage over all the others who hadn’t yet become aware of their true nature. She was happy to be a puta, because becoming a puta was the best thing that could ever happen to a lower-class girl in a city like Fortaleza.
She was an intelligent girl.
(To be continued)[/QUOTE]
Gladiator, good shot man. I'm feeling this puta chick. Truth be told, I think you've provided the best fotos from the Fortaleza area as of yet. IMHO. Orchestrating a trip to Fortaleza has never crossed my mind until now.
[QUOTE=Gladiator]Siqueira Club: half an hour taxi ride from Iracema. I had heard good things about this club but I went on Sun and it was closed, apparently it’s been closed for good recently, so forget about this place. [/QUOTE]
Sítio Siqueira Clube has been closed down several times before. The volume disturbs the neighbours. It will propably open again.
Watch it, at Siqueira you "will have to put up with listening to Forró".
Another day I was strolling around Ground Zero at about 4 am and I met the Puta again, but she was with a friend. Her friend looked doable too, she was mid 20’s but had a slutty face and a solid bum, which I started to caress while I said hello to the Puta.
I asked them if the felt like having some fun all of us together and they liked the idea, so we closed a deal for a ST of 2 hrs for 100 R$ each. We first hit Mambo for a couple of drinks and some warm-up dancing in the black hole area. Both of them were all over me, even biting me like 2 hungry sex cannibals while we danced. I knew for sure I was going to enjoy that 2-hour session with them later on.
When we left Mambo we took a 5-min (5 R$) taxi ride towards the ST motel Village, which was cheaper than paying for a second girl at my hotel, as its price was just 40 R$ for 3 hrs, though I was only going to stay for 2 hrs, but 3 hrs was the minimum time slot at this motel.
The room was quite good: clean place, huge round bed, porno channel, music that you could listen to even at top volume, one of those chairs for fucking, etc. As expected, that was a memorable session, both the Puta and the Puta’s friend got top marks in terms of attitude.
On my last night I arrived at Ground Zero and spotted a chick leaving one of the clubs, she was really hot so I hunted her down straightaway for a quick attitude test, which she passed with no problems, so I recruited her for TLN for 150 R$. She turned out to be a very sweet girl, a Dolphin in the mongering ocean, a gem of nature, fun and cuddly, and just 18 yo.
In Fortaleza sometimes I spent hours combing clubs without finding anything to my liking, other times, like with the Dolphin, I stroke gold quickly.
Spending the night with the Dolphin was the best Fortaleza farewell that I could have had, this girl was GFE material, she was great both in looks and attitude; and with a decent set of skills, which she was still refining, given her young age.
My stay in Fortaleza, sadly, came to an end. I now knew that Fortaleza was a world-class sex Mecca beyond any doubt. Finding doable girls is relatively easy, finding gems is not so easy but also possible on your lucky days. As in all gem mines, all you see at first is mud, even when you start digging you continue to see only mud, but with a bit of patience the gems eventually emerge, they are definitely there.
Let’s not forget that Fortaleza is a city of over 2m souls, so in such a vast pussy universe it is obvious that all sorts of specimens can be found: from the sub-average girls that form the masses of disco-hookers to the, less frequent, good-lookers and finally the ultimate trophies: gems.
But it may take time to find the good ones, as it does in all good hunting grounds. This is not a city I’d recommend to those that haven’t got the patience to survey the territory and be willing to wait for hours before spotting something good. If you are a Rio monger and you like termas because you are unable to hunt good girls out of termas, you should forget about coming to Fortaleza: stick to the termas. If you don’t speak Portuguese (or Italian or Spanish), I wouldn’t recommend you either to monger in Fortaleza as girls there speak no English; their second language is Italian actually, due to the high number of Italian mongers.
But if you speak the language and like the hunting experience, you will have a great time there as the scene, to some extent, is not as commercialised as in Rio. I, at least, found it easier to find GFE’s in Fortaleza (or Natal) than I did in Rio.
Fortunately, when I left Fortaleza I still had a few days to spend in Natal before flying back home.
Natal was a good decompression chamber before boarding the plane, a good place to chill out and contemplate for the last time the blue ocean.
THE END
@ Gladiator
Seems you stayed at the Hotel Casa Blanca? You say something about an extra fee for an extra guest... I never had trouble bringing in a girl. Just booked (and payed) a double room. Or was it just when you wanted to do a threesome with puta and puta's friend?
Pyjama
Pyjama,
That’s right, the Casa Blanca doesn’t charge for guests but it does charge a hefty fee if you want to take 2 girls at once, they said 85 R$ for the second girl, so going to a motel was cheaper.
I asked them when I checked in, so I knew from the start I’d use a motel for 3-somes.
Just left and found things slow. Of course many nights were rainy, but didn't stop me from looking. Found a new disco called the Armazen. Maybe this is where everyone was. It is near the Orbitus club past Irecema. I saw many garota programas in there, I was not sure if any of the ladies were NOT pros. Worth a visit. Just for reference, my going rate paid was between 150 and 100 BR.
Dev
I'm coming in on sat the may 27th and staying a week.
Any members want to go drinking let me know.
I hope you brighten my grey days by sharing some pics! Some nice bunda, a lovely smile, tasty brown skin :-)
Just dreaming...
Pyjama
Is anyone going to be in Fortaleza tomorrow 18th June for a few days? This will be my first time there so I´d like to me up with a couple of forum members and possibly watch the England game then hit the local hot spots afterwards.
Please PM me if interested.
I will be clearly identifiable by my England top. LOL.
Super Sir out.
Hi,
How does this work in Fortaleza?
Is it possible to bring local girls to most hotels? Does somebody know hotels where yoy can bring ladies?
I wouldn't want to take some motel for a few hours.
[QUOTE=Dave78]Hi,
How does this work in Fortaleza?
Is it possible to bring local girls to most hotels? Does somebody know hotels where yoy can bring ladies?
I wouldn't want to take some motel for a few hours.[/QUOTE]
Yes as long as they have an ID card (over 18 years old) and they register with the hotel.
Try to rent a "flat". That is an apartment in an apart hotel.
If you book through an agency you get almost half the official hotel rate.
That is because those apartments are privately owned and you still get the daily hotel service.
Linen change twice a week though unless you pay extra for more.
El Greco
Fellow mongers,
There are two high end places in fortaleza that I don't see any monger mentioning.
Clube do whisky and casa da beth.
I have the info on them in the little black book.
I'll be posting more on this places later on but let me advance you that the "garotas" in these two places look very good but you are going to pay big $$$$ for that quality.
from October 2005
[QUOTE=Brugal8]Fellow mongers,
There are two high end places in fortaleza that I don't see any monger mentioning.
Clube do whisky and casa da beth.
I have the info on them in the little black book.
I'll be posting more on this places later on but let me advance you that the "garotas" in these two places look very good but you are going to pay big $$$$ for that quality.[/QUOTE]
Looking forward to the info you have about the high end places. Clube do Whisky had some great quality when I was there last year, but I just couldn't get myself to pay Rio terma prices in the Northeast of Brasil...
Hey, speaking of your little black book, do you have any info on low end places? I went to one place called Scalibu or Escalibu or something like that (kinda sounds like Excalibur in English), near Praia do Futuro. The best way to describe the place was it was like a ranch, no roof, pool in the middle, strange place IMHO, like being in a barn on a farm! I went in the afternoon so there were no women present at the time, but the prices were something like R20 for 30 min or R40 for 1 hr I believe. The facilities were quite spartan, had to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and I think a bucket substituted as a toilet! Never went back unfortunately, doesn't get going until the evening. Not sure when I'll be back in Fortaleza, but wish I had checked out more places like that, instead of just going to the Kapital/Zipi/Europa "bermuda triangle" lol.
How about the downtown Fortaleza area, away from the beach? There's got to be somewhere the local businessmen go...
This girl are not the cutest, but she is very hot !
Do you remember her name? Alexanadra, maybe?
[QUOTE=Ranocchio]Do you remember her name? Alexanadra, maybe?[/QUOTE]
I am sorry, cant remember her name.
Hi
Does anyone have experience with girls from [url]http://www.hotceara.com/[/url] ?
Or can someone recommend other agencies ?
I have never done escorte girls in Brasil, but I like to try.
At least they look very nice on their photos, if it is for real ?
This is the place that has the reputation of having the best girls in all of fortaleza.
The owner has made it a very exclusive place and not everybody can get in, you have to go with someone that is already a client or be related to somemone very well known and respected in fortaleza like a politician or something like that.
Prices are high for fortaleza, since these girls are top notch, they start at 300 reais and with negotiation you'll get it down to 250 reais.
Beer 5 reais.
This place and clube do whisky are the two high end place in fortaleza.
That is what you have to love about brazil in every state there is something for everyone.
Hope I could help.
I was in Fortaleza in several occasions and find that Casa Beth is a rip off, the girls ptretend to be superstars and sex idols.
You can find excelent girls and good prices on GAROTA NACIONAL([url]www.garotanacional.com[/url]).
I stayed with Adriana for a week and she was a great GFE, i presume she is still round .On another occasion we were a bunch of 3 fellows and she provided 3 friends with whom we spent a fantastic time , and toured Ceara.
All the best,
Barek
I am going to Fortaleza in August and I was hoping that someone who had recently been there could recommend some massage parlors or clubs to meet pros in?
i just came back from fortaleza and have a few observations. if you are not italian then it is very difficult to pick up a semi pro in this city. most of them have their hooks out for only that one type of guy. they all seem very surprised when i said that i was american and no one really speaks any english. i went to zippi bar, europa, armazen, and pirata. i do not think i saw many differences in the girls at any of those clubs. they all seemed to be trolling for partners, though zippi and europa were more up front about it. also, there are a great number of **** girls with fake ids, not that the police seem to care right now. i tried one street girl who was actually the best of the lot and the cheapest too. bar girls are $150 reals and street girls are $50 reals. most of the girls had a very indian look about them and are not like the more european southern girls. i guess i would go back but i think i would spend more time in rio or sao paulo.
sorry i missed you azcat. i am here now and find the talent better than anytime i have been here in 3 years. i had a great weekend with a local that cost not much more for what the bar girls quoted you for a single night. (friday thru sunday) cafe del mar btw.
there is enough variety for me that the "indian" ones are only part of the mix. if you want blonds, go south for sure. oh, i am not italian and i speak only enough portuguese to order a beer and get in mild trouble at the beach. wish me luck tonight. zippy's and maybe europa.
dev.
[quote=azcat]i just came back from fortaleza and have a few observations. if you are not italian then it is very difficult to pick up a semi pro in this city. most of them have their hooks out for only that one type of guy. they all seem very surprised when i said that i was american and no one really speaks any english. i went to zippi bar, europa, armazen, and pirata. i do not think i saw many differences in the girls at any of those clubs. they all seemed to be trolling for partners, though zippi and europa were more up front about it. also, there are a great number of **** girls with fake ids, not that the police seem to care right now. i tried one street girl who was actually the best of the lot and the cheapest too. bar girls are $150 reals and street girls are $50 reals. most of the girls had a very indian look about them and are not like the more european southern girls. i guess i would go back but i think i would spend more time in rio or sao paulo.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Azcat]I just came back from Fortaleza and have a few observations. If you are not Italian then it is very difficult to pick up a semi pro in this city. Most of them have their hooks out for only that one type of guy.[/QUOTE]
I found the opposite, not being Italian helped a lot picking up girls in Fortaleza.
[QUOTE=Devilbuns] I had a great weekend with a local that cost not much more for what the bar girls quoted you for a single night. (Friday thru Sunday) Cafe Del Mar BTW.Dev.[/QUOTE]
Good deal! I had a girl quoting 200 R$ a week... Damn I was leaving only 4 days later :-((
Some more girls of my last trip to Ceara. Have you come across any of these garotas?
BTW: That girl on number 5-7 was good at what she called "beijo special" i.e. licking my ass
Pyjama
Before fellow experienced mongers start complaining I will cut to the chase and share my own experiences in dreamland. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that I will break this report in two parts in order to make it more reader friendly. Also the fact and situations stated here happened a while ago (2003 /2004) and not necessarily a few days ago. I hope this won't be a problem.
Destination: Fortaleza, aka Fortal
Who: Rodrigo Santoro (RS), Glen Medeiros (GM) and Black Spot (BS)
When: July 9th to July 16 th 2003.
After seeing our first attempt to hit "mother land" a year before blown off because RS pulled out at the last minute (he was grounded by his regular after a lascivious holiday trip to Mikonos - Greece), we were looking forward to this one.
The charter flight was not bad but that stop in Las Palmas made it longer and the little pervert inside us was becoming bigger and bigger to the point that RS and me were given the bad eye by the Dutch hostess, because we were. Let's say, complimenting her "goodies"? .
We finally arrived in Fortal and head straight up to the hotel - Golden Tulip Iate Plaza - Av. Beira Mar, 4753 - [url]www.iateplazahotel.com. Br[/url]. We were happy because it was a brand new hotel and the rooms were big with an absolutely amazing view, facing the beach and the hotel's swimming pool. At that time we were kids in this kind of transoceanic mongering and we didn't know about the FORUM, so we went there completely blind folded. But me & GM speaking fluently Portuguese would definitely help us out during this "pussy quest".
RS was comfortable with that also, he didn't speak a word of Portuguese but his looks are the ultimate translator all over the world.
In a rush to get things arranged prior to declare hunt season open, I decided to chat up the bell boy and the guys at the reception. Like all Brazilians and specially people from Ceará they were quite friendly and the fact that I speak Portuguese kept them from trying to pull any sort of scam or misguiding information. For most of my disappointment though one of the guys told me that the hotel was not "girl friendly", because the management didn't want the hotel and his respectful clients (ah, ah, . Like us) to have to put up with some scenes that had happened in the past in other hotels (sleeping beauty scam, where GP lets monger fall asleep and rip him off, monger wakes up and runs straight to the lobby complaining. And the rest of the story we all know).
While I was there GM arrived and we head up to the room to meet up with RS who was already ready to rumble. I told them about the downside of the hotel but no one seemed to care, so horny and eager, to start biting some Brazilian ass, they were. Don't misunderstand me I was too, definitely more than both of them together but I just wanted to make sure things were all taking care of, if you know what I mean.
We went out for dinner and while walking in the "calçadao" - sidewalk near the beach in Av. Beira Mar we noticed that this place breathed and sweated sex. Women were looking at us and making comments and some of them even touching, we were flabbergasted. Uau! Heaven does exist and it's just 9 hours flight away.
I need to precise something though, as I noticed that more experienced mongers tend to be quite strict and raise some eyebrows when reading "newbies reports".
I'm not saying that if you catch a flight to Fortal every single woman will talk to you and try to get in your bed. No, way José! But then again if you are not a FOBU and you live by the rule of - if you don't like yourself who will? - chances are you might get lucky in the non-pro universe.
Day 1 - Monday
So we had dinner and head back to the hotel were the old ritual began. We showered, cover ourselves with creams and perfume grabbed a few drinks and hit the spot of the day apparently. Clube Pirata.
When we got to "pussy fest" zone we told the cabbie to stop even before reaching Pirata because we saw a huge concentration of women and decided to check it out. As soon as we got out of the cab we could feel that we were the main attraction, every single person, bug or animal were staring at us. It was quite creepy to be honest because you find yourself in a dodgy place where you stand up like a sore thumb and you and your buddies have tourist written all over you.
RS was their main target, his model looks which helped him in the past in different locations were already working on his favour.
We asked were Pirata was, to one of the girls passing by and she said that we were better off away from Pirata because it was crap. So we asked her what she suggested and she pointed a sort of house with a balcony full of women just on the other side of the street. It was Café Del Mar.
We followed her advice but agreed to check Pirata still afterwards. When we got inside we were a little bit scared because 99% of the population were women even a ***** (the animal in this case) lying on the doorstep. We made our way through the other end of the. Errm let's call it disco even if it was far away from being something close to that. We felt like bitches, all the time we were ass pinched, ass grabbed, kissed, pulled etc, etc. But we were liking it; -).
After 15 minutes there I look around and GM was busy talking to a bird, while RS was with two. He waived at me because he couldn't understand them and they didn't speak no English at all. I went there and introduce myself to:
Cristiane - Beautiful exotic face, green eyes and hazel wavy hair by the shoulder. A little bit chunky but that's how I like them. Nham nham, I like meat in my plate no skinny little ass for me, no sir!
Carla - Tall, long black hair and with hips and. Yeap, ass! Didn't fancy the face that much, but body made up for the rest.
I took a quick snapshot and my litte brother between my legs approved them, so I initiate conversation, at this stage RS was already keen on call it a day and take these two gazelles, but GM was not fixed yet and we had all the time of the world, so why hurry.
I start talking to them and Carla whispered me that she wanted RS. I played stupid and she said loud and clear: " I would like him in my bed tonight". I took a deep breath and RS immediately asked me what she said. I repeated that to him and he immediately stuck his tongue into her mouth.
Music here was awful, it was loud ugly and nasty and it seems that they had just discovered the early ages of techno. But then again who cares, when you have a couple of caipirinhas and you're surrounded by women everything seems nice.
I called GM and explained him the situation, he was not too keen on grabbing the little bunnies straight away, but then again RS was on fire and wanted to discharge his load on Carla straight away. We reminded him that he couldn't take her to the hotel because it was not allowed and agreed to take it easy. In the mean time I was trying to work on Cristiane, but she had a little bit of an attitude which was pissing me off. She talked like a gangster, and was a little bit childish (they were both 19). GM couldn't find any boot that suited him and we all decided to head to Pirata. So we did, but Carla told us that we could join them afterwards in "DESIGUAL"(I heard this place closed down a few months after) because they would be there later in the night.
We arrived in Pirata and it start raining, FORTAL mongers know what this means, specially if you take in consideration that it's an open air kinda club. By the way this is south America, everything is kinda something, eh, eh, . The forro (northeast brazilian dance)show had to be postponed and all the people gather under the improvised zinc roof until it stopped.
There were not a lot of women in Pirata and the few (good ones) were not approachable or were with someone. GM hooked up with a nice mulata and started dancing with her, after 10m he couldn't stand still anymore, she had awaken the little man in him. RS & me went for some "love laps" but there was nothing there for us. We decided to wait and see how GM would go with the mulata and as soon as he told us that it was no do because she was a member of the staff and was not really an easy target, we left.
DESIGUAL, was just a few minutes away walking and it was another hell of a low life place, but hey once in Rome. And if there's pussy I don't mind being in a crap shit hole kinda club with plastic chairs and tables with a plastic kinda of ceiling with a few holes in it where water was still dripping from. It's not Paris, London Madrid, Miami etc, but if there's pussy I don't care, so didn't RS & GM.
We paid our entry fee (R20, if I well remember). Actually everything in FORTAL is peanuts from clubbing to food to tourism itself it's one of the big advantages of the Brazilian Northeast.
As soon as we stepped in a lot of garotas started following us and trying to pull us to the. Yeah you got it, kinda dance floor. We refused politely and order our drinks instead, but while we turn our back to the main room we were ass grabbed several times and chicks just wouldn't stop. All of a sudden we felt someone putting their arms around our waist. It was Cris and Carla! RS vanished straight away with Carla while I stayed with GM and Cris. A chick come to whisper something to GM, then he said he would like to have a word with me. I told Cris to grab a drink for us and talked to the guy. He then told me that he had just been approached by a GP who offered him a full night for R100.
Well the funny part is that so far we were not 100% sure these girls were GP's. Shame on us! We had a little suspicion but then again we thought that being young well dressed and decent looking guys and with a lot of Euros to spend was the main attraction for them but slowly we understood what the whole thing was all about. Didn't stop us though?
The main problem with FORTAL is that most of the women, when compared to Rio or S. Paulo are ugly, it's a fact let's not hide it. But then again one have more to choose from and can afford to be picky and guess what? If you're patient enough you will find real stunners. The way it works is that some girls in FORTAL come from other areas in Brazil (S. Paulo, Recife, Salvador, Rio) because competition is ruthless in the major cities and like we say back home, in a blind's land a one eyed man is a king.
It was late and we both had hook up with pretty decent girls giving the overall context. RS was desperate to unload his weapon and GM was also settled with a petite fake blonde. He was not really attracted by her but once he had a few drinks and she rubbed her tight little ass on him, he just couldn't say no.
Then time to make business came, it was almost 5am and we all wanted to taste some brazilian pussy, but we forgot something really important. We didn't have a safe place to take the girls and bang them. They suggested a place nearby with nice rooms by the hour but after talking to each other we decided to be wise and pass on that proposition. It was our first night in Brazil and we were a little bit uncomfortable with just spending the night in a kinda shag & go hotel in Brazil. We took their numbers DFKed for another 15 minutes and then call it a day.
DAY 2 - Tuesday
We woke up in a good mood and even the fact that we didn't start the party big time, didn't affect our moral. We could feel that the best was still to come. We had a luxurious breakfast, which is well needed when mongering because we spend nights drinking and don't get enough hours sleep, so a fully vitamined breakfast is necessary to recharge batteries and get ready for another hunt day.
We had heard that on Tuesdays Armazém (not sure about the name, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) was the place to be. We arrived there and this place was actually quite good. There were a lot of pros there but also a few semi pros and non pros (local girls, students, tourists, etc). We recognised a few faces from the previous night and they immediately approached us but we ditched them. The last thing you want when mongering is to hang around with the same bird. We can do that in sex prison; don't need to cross the fucking ocean to do that shit. Music was still crap in this place, and girls were not so "straight forward" as the previous night. RS spotted a young beauty, caramel colour with blue contact lenses, and grabbed her immediately. He was with GM who was translating for him. I went upstairs to see how things were and I found these two abandoned girls. I approached one of them, who was a petite brunette not really curvy, actually she was a little bit skinny but had a nice face and long dark hair. I imagined the fun I would have riding her tight ass while pulling her long hair and spanking her. She was with a friend. Body of a model, but fucked up face. I tried to pull them but the conversation was lame and hopefully GM came to my rescue as being alone trying to pull 2 chicks can be tricky, even in motherland.
They happened to live in the same hotel thn us, and the petite brunette (Ligia) was being maintained by her Italian husband who sent her (? 500 to? 1000 a day, no shit! )
We settled for a few drinks in the hotel swimming pool for the next day and we left. RS was also looking for us at that time because the caramel had played him for a fool. Actually she was a player and she was there with an older guy who was going to pay her big $$$, while RS and the rest of us were in a non-paying policy. The only problem with that is that pro's don't fucking care if you're Brad Pitt or Tyrese Gibson if they are tight on money they will think business first and that means going with a guy that will pay, period. She gave him her number though.
We left this place and decided to visit DESIGUAL. It was packed and once again we were welcomed, after the hard time we had in the previous place we were happy girls were grabbing our asses and pinching our nipples all the way through. There were not good looking women, though. We waited patiently and then things start getting better. RS hooked up with a Penélope Cruz look a like, and started DFK like a couple, eh, eh, . GM, was pissed of because an Italian Monger grabbed a girl he had been talking to who looked hot. And I was still empty handed, damn, an ugly lizard faced chick dragged me to the dance floor but I turned her down and headed straight to the bar where I stayed for the rest of the night. RS came with Penélope on his hand and said he was leaving with her. By the look in his eyes I understood he wouldn't take a no far an answer, and wished him luck. I was not comfortable letting him go like this so I asked for the chick's phone number and name (Verónica), which she gladly gave. And off they went.
GM was all steamed up also, because the girl he had been talking to ditched the Italian monger and came back but he decided to keep her number and call it a day, he was not comfortable in going with an unknown girl somewhere in the middle of FORTAL and I fully backed him up on that.
DAY 3 - Wednesday
It was 10 am, and no sign of RS, we were starting to get worried. We shouldn't have left go with Penélope we thought. Shit didn't feel right and we were about to ring the girl to find out if everything was ok. I went to one of the phone booths in the lobby and dialled the number. A sweat warm Brazilian female voice answered: Al". It was Penélope, I asked her about RS and she said he was having breakfast with her. I asked her to pass him the phone. The guy was, as you can imagine, living the dream. He had had two sessions with her at her place as soon as they left DESIGUAL, and then another two in the morning then she left him sleeping and went out to buy some fresh bread to prepare him breakfast. I told him to shut the fuck up and not to say a word more. Damn, me and GM all worried about the guy and he has living large with the GP. That's some fucked up shit, especially because it was starting to get to me the fact that we were in motherland for 3 days and the only thing we had was a bunch of phone numbers pilled in our bedside table.
I share the news with GM and we decided that from that night on, things should and would change. GM went to the reception and asked the guys how we could rent a flat or a room outside the hotel. The guy was extremely helpful and told us to buy the local newspaper and browse through the different ads. We knew what we wanted something close to the hotel, with at least two bedrooms a shower room, clean and decent. We made a few phone calls and bingo! We had an appointment to see a place in - Avenida Aboliçao -. We met the landlord there and the place was just perfect so we settled a deal for R450 for 10 days. She wanted R5OO initially but it was low season and we convinced her to lower the price a little bit.
Back to the hotel we found RS with a fucking smile on his face. He told us how he had had a good session with Penélope and better how he felt well treated as she took real care of him. Funny thing, she couldn't pronounce his name so she just kept calling him Rodrigo. I had already heard the GP calling him that and pointing out at him in the street, but it was only then, that it struck me. The guy looked like one of their young actors, every woman went crazy about. The guy's name was indeed Rodrigo Santoro. RS told us that he kissed her goodbye and left around 11h30m am, and didn't pay a single REAL. Actually he wanted to leave some money for the break fast but got really upset and gave it back to him.
That night we had everything prepared, we knew our shit was right and nothing would get on our way this time. We had dinner quite early and went back to the hotel for a pre-hunt nap. Wednesday there was another place where we were told to go - (it was a kinda local disco that apparently rocked on Wednesdays). We went there did some love laps, but soon found out that it was a little bit of a cock fest and full of locals who didn't really fancy competition. So we left and went straight to Café Del Mar.
Good old Café del Mar was once again packed, a few GP's tried their luck but know we knew how things worked and we needed to be patient if we wanted to grab the catch of the night. So we turn dozens of them off until all of a sudden I spotted Cristiane. Went straight to her and started dancing with her, RS had found a tall babydoll face (19) blonde girl coming from Santa Catarina (south of Brazil), she definitely looked European. GM was struggling to find something suitable and after a while we went to DESIGUAL. Time was passing by and nothing really serious was happening on my side so I decided to make a move and invite Cristiane to a "private party". She said maybe, and I was like what the fuck! What you mean with maybe? She then said that she had a friend that would like to come with us as well and since GM was still on his own it could be a good idea. Told that to GM who said that he wanted to see the merchandise first, and we told Cristiane to bring her ass to the boys so that we can appraise her.
It was a petite curvy little cat with a round but and I shy look that immediately turned GM's head. Horny RS by that time had already vanished with a set of keys back to the Fuck Room as we called our new "bonk & go" flat.
So off we went the four of us. At this point no prices or whatsoever were discussed. We got there and as soon as we got in we could hear the shlap, shlap sound of RS quadric against the GP, followed by a few spanks. The girls started laughing and said that the party had already started without them. We reassured them that they were wrong and we I went to the bedroom while GM stayed in the living room. Needless to say that these girls were overnighters and actually expected to shag, sleep and shag again in the morning, so that was good.
My first pop came almost immediately as she was one these girls that is constantly wet. A had a girlfriend once like this and it's not good if you're horny because you explode immediately. It didn't matter though, this was no Europe where you pop you pay and you go. No sir, here things roll differently, you pop, you shower together, you get a hard on, you pop again, you sleep, and you wake up with the morning flag pole and guess what? Yeap you got it right, you pop again.
In the morning the girls instead of asking for the deed just asked for a cab fare back home. Nice way of putting it we thought, at the end of the day we are no fools and we knew that they were GP's but we preferred the ones that didn't approach talking about business straight away. We handed them 50 are each and they seemed quite happy with it. RS handed his 100R because she didn't even ask for anything while leaving. Like most mongers here, sometimes it's not about the money; it's about the attitude of these girls. And if they show the right attitude, what is 100R for us guys?
End of Part One.
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I am here now and I have to admit, it is the slowest I have seen it. Nothing is happening at the usual places (zip, etc) until midnight now. Numbers of all are down. Maybe it is the off season for tourists. Europa has been recently renovated (few months ago.) and has been my best experience so far. Prices are stable, but the expense rate not helping. Talent is ok, as a nice guy from Canada told me last night - you can find a real beauty here - but it takes time. Last night worked out well no chance for ANY sleep - quiet day on the beach today. Tonight will be better I hope.
Hi guys.
Next month I will go to Fortaleza for quit a long period. Anyone wanna drink a beer just send me a PM.
The first beer is mine :-)
Got invited to a Thursday night option I did not know of. 10ish go out to Croco Beach (not coco) Futura Beach. Nice party with a mix of locals non pros and a few pros mixed in. The later it gets the crowd thins to the more wild types. I was set up before I went, but I saw at least 4 obvious mongers hook up with some nice stuff. Worth a taxi fair to look around.
[QUOTE=Bert79]Hi, guys.
Next month I will go to Fortaleza for quit a long period. Anyone wanna drink a beer just send me a PM.
The first beer is mine:-)[/QUOTE]Hello,, bert,
I am in Fortaleza since Saturday until end of oct.
Its not possible to write you a pm, you don't receive it.
If you want, call me here: 85 961 816 41.
Yesterday I was in Bikini Beach, a bar with girls dancing on the bar and anywhere. Some real good girls.
Knew a real cutie, could be a newbie, went to a real cheap motel, 10 real the hour. She wasn t shaved, so I guess she was new in the business.
She was thin, nice brown eyes, real cute face, little tits, and caressing.
Although she did not do a lot of things with me, exept she made me a massage and kissed, it was a quite good experience for 100 Rs.
Only this awful motel, a little bit dirty, cold shower, even she did not want to take a shower there.
A big cucaracha was swimming in the toilet. Uaaaa.
Bert, I would like to meet you and take a beer and share experience.
See you
Yesterday night I was again in Bikini.
A great atmoshpere. Dancing all the hot girls.
I met a 23 year old, she danced with me, kissed me like hell.
I didn't plan to come home with a girl. But when she was kissing me, I turned my opinion very fast.
We went to my hotel, took a shower together, kissing, touching her sweet body, although she had real little tits, but it was okay.
We went to bed, I offered her a massage with oil, she agreed.
I could see that she was liking it a lot.
I started to kiss her nipples, she went crazy, I had to lick her, that made her more crazy.
She turned, I was down and getting a fantastic blow job, then she gave me a ride, she on top.
She was soo good, fast, that I couldn't stand it for a long time and jerked off. I liked it a lot. All for 100real.
Somebody wrote, in Bikini he saw ugly girls. But not nowadays.
You find some real goodlooking girls.
Also down in the Europa Bar. One day ago it was soooo packed with good girls, I couldn't believe.
I don't want to go back to germany, where is nothing to see, nothing good to fxxxk and so cold, when I have to go back end of October.
Reports will follow.
[QUOTE=Germano123]Hello Bert,
Knew a real cutie, could be a newbie, went to a real cheap motel, 10 real the hour. She wasn t shaved, so I guess she was new in the business.
See you[/QUOTE]Hi,
Can you me give the name of the motel?
Thanks,
Mike
Hi Mike,
Sure you don't want to stay in that hole.
It was really ugly.
I cannot tell you the name.
It is in Centro near the busstation. A taxidriver took me there.
I was yesterday by car and discovered other motels, near the mainroad that goes by the university.
They are more expensive, starting with 25 and 30 real.
The one is calledVilla Verde. The other I noticed, but I don't have my notes with me.
There is a good motel near Praia Iracema, the name is Village. This must be good.
Sorry
yesterday I was at the praia Futuro. The first time with a 19 year old girl. And my video camera and digcam.
Wanted to make video and fotos with her.
Met the sister and another 21 year old.
Made fotos for 15 min. Then came the police, checked ids. All where above 18. But they saw the girls in bikinis, wanted to see what I have filmed. There were about ten policemen. Big crime scene.
They checked my whole body, all my bags.
The took my cameras.
Today I was at another delegacia, they told, me, they sent it to another department and I will get it back on Friday.
They want to see, what kind of pictures I took.
Luckily the film was new and I have only scenes (10 minutes at the beach) with normal beachlive and the two girls in bikini.
But I think, they want fight sex-tourism and they make your live as hard as possible. There was a woman, the chief, she really was angry and didn't want to speak with me. I said I want to film the beaches for the tourism.
She: we don't want that kind of tourists.
Finito.
Very bad, I have to leave for my country on Monday.
I wanted to go to some more beaches, making a reportage about where to go as a tourist.
Beaches and so on.
Now I am running out of time.
I have a lot of material, especially filmed in Natal, also I made a film about Isla Margarita in Venezuela . There I never had a problem with the police.
Only with thieves that took my whole equipment in valor of 6000 dollars. Bad enough.
I hope to be in my quiet country germany next week. In the moment I am so pissed off and frustrated. You cannot believe.
[QUOTE=Germano123] There is a good motel near Praia Iracema, the name is Village. This must be good.[/QUOTE]
Motel Village, Rua Ararius 250 is a decent motel. Very good location. 5 minutes walking from Zipi Bar.
[QUOTE=Germano123]Police took my camera[/QUOTE]Germano,
You are saying you were at praia futuro. Where? is it croco beach, coco beach..? Just curious where the police is looking.
I am also interessted in whether you are walking around there with a big camcorder. I guess the police would always be interessted in keeping your equipment.
In the airport migration office i spoke with a kind officer.
Asked about the certified copy.
He said, it is not exactly after the law, but most police-officers will accept it.
You go to a CARTORIO, there they make you the copy.
[QUOTE=Balman]Germano,
You are saying you were at praia futuro. Where? Is it croco beach, coco beach? Just curious where the police is looking.
I am also interessted in whether you are walking around there with a big camcorder. I guess the police would always be interessted in keeping your equipment. [/QUOTE]I was at the end, in front of Coco-Beach.
I will go this night to Croco-Beach, is evening of caranguejo, a lot of people.
Yes, I was today in the office of the german consul in Fortaleza.
I said, I am scared, they could keep my camera.
He said, yes this could happen some times.
So he didn't call me back until the evening, he wanted to do this.
Tomorrow is Friday, they wanted to return the cameras tomorrow.
I will go there and hope the best.
But I really was scared, because it is an expensive videocam. It looks like a normal consumer-cam, but it has three chips and makes really TV like videos. Sometimes even the TV stations use is, because it is so small and nobody thinks, its professional.
But at least I had a good day yesterday with a nice girl, I met in the bikini-bar in the night before.
We spend the night in my apartment, she was hot, like to take some photos, when she was drunken (I will post it, when back next week).
The next day we went to Cumbuco, a beach 25 km from Fortaleza.
I wanted to take photos with her, I had my normal Nikon 35mm camera and a small digicam.
She was pretty, but didn't like many photos. Still I have some nice pics.
When we went back in the car, she sat beneath me with her Bikini, I put my right hand onto her bikini trouser, but she took my hand away.
And put it into her trouser.
She got wet and I had problems to concentrate on driving.
She wanted to have sex in the car, or we go into a Motel.
But I drove her home, she had nothing than a red, not a matress to sleep, but this thing, I don't know the name in english, that you put between two walls.
She kissed me, let her bikini drop onto the floor.
We went into the mat, I couldn't imagine that it is possible for two persons to make love in this.
But it was good, we laid beside, the mat was moving, a great feeling, I fxxxxd her from beside and then she went onto me, her back into my direction.
This was great also.
I will meet her this evening. We will go to Croco-Beach, every Thursday is Crab-day (cada quinta feira e dia do caranguejo)
Will report.
You want your equipment back before you return to Germany. If I were you I would go directly to the Delegacia that holds your equipment. Insist of speaking to the one in charge.
Be calm, patient and in a smooth way offer him/her a kind of reward (not a bribe) for being so kind helping you getting your equipment back. Something like R$ 200(-400) would be suitable.
Of course they don't deserve any reward, but your equipment is valuable and you're short of time.
Does anyone have any updated information about what's going on in Fortaleza? Which clubs are running? Which aren't? I've read the entire Fortaleza section and some of the info is kinda old. Are any of the houses (listed by Pluto2) still open? Escort info? I'll be in Fortaleza for 3 1/2 weeks starting November 28 and any info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
All,
Is there anybody that knows what is going on in Fortaleza during christmas and new year? I have tried to find some information, but it is not much to be found.
I am going to stay there during christmas and over to the new year!
If anybody could give me some feedback I would be greatful!
Balman
Balman,
I was there for christmas and new year 4 years ago, and since the 3 times in low season.
This year I decided to go before christmas (18.-23.12) because the hotels are pretty much more expensive during new year (at least I couldn’t find a good one).
What’s going on: The place is full!!! Mainly Italians, Dutch, Germans, but ..Italians!!! Therefore the going rates are usually more exp. (BR 200 up for LT)
The good thing this time: There are many Brazilians tourist as well (some students and so are quiet easy to get).
Conio66
Conio66, Thank you for the information!!
I sense from your comments that you are not Italian, he he... :))
Sounds great, Italians and GDPs in one place! How much entertainment can a man ask for during his vacation...
I will be there from before christmas and over new year, so there should be time enough to have fun. If things are as you posted, this is going to be a good christmas.
Just one tip for you. Rent an apartment, that is much cheaper, and you also have more freedom than if you stay in a hotel.
I was in Fortaleza in November for a few days. It had been 2 years since I was last there. A reasonable number of Italian mongers were there and a fair number of garotas too, but I cannot say that I was impressed with the girls at all. I had forgotten how disappointing the scene there can be - and think that it has gone downhill a bit since I was last there. The typical Fortaleza garota is an ugly short round gal with a pot belly and very little of the famous Brazilian bunda. If used to the scene in Rio or S.P., one will be very disappointed in the quality available. However, as in the past, I was able to find some diamonds in the rough after a lot of searching - young gals just starting out in the hooking business - and before they have hit the big leagues in Rio and S.P. It just seemed to take me longer to find the diamonds in the rough than in the past.
I would estimate that 10% of the gals were attractive and another 5% of the gals were very attractive. In my short time there, I was able to land a couple of beauties - beautiful short thin hard bodied spinners that would easily go for double or triple the amount if you were in Rio or S.P. Here is a picture of one of them - 19 year old Diane, a rare blonde amongst the Fortaleza garotas. After she has made some money in Fortaleza, I imagine that she will head down south to the big leagues in Rio and S.P.
During the day, I would hang out at Coco Beach at Praia Futuro - I saw quite a few of the gals there in the Forro Mambo area bars at night. The best nights were Friday and Saturday. Rest of the week was pretty dead while I was there. I saw no evidence of law enforcement crackdowns, but had my passport with me at all times just in case.
[QUOTE=Elmo]The typical Fortaleza garota is an ugly short round gal with a pot belly and very little of the famous Brazilian bunda. If used to the scene in Rio or S.P., one will be very disappointed in the quality available. However, as in the past, I was able to find some diamonds in the rough after a lot of searching - young gals just starting out in the hooking business - and before they have hit the big leagues in Rio and S.P... After she has made some money in Fortaleza, I imagine that she will head down south to the big leagues in Rio and S.P. [/QUOTE]
Ceará has it's share of short, chubby girls with their round heads placed directly on their shoulders, but there are also lots of stunning girls in Fortaleza. Check out Mucuripe Clube on a Friday night, just outstanding.
I doubt a beautiful Fortaleza GP would head down to "the big league" in Rio. If she's interested in gringo customers she'll be much better of in Fortaleza.
Why is that?
1. In Fortaleza there is a never-ending stream of Italian (and Dutch) mongers coming down to spend their holidays. So even if the prices are lower in Fortaleza she'll have much more customers.
2. If she's a beautiful girl she'll have less competition than in Rio.
3. In Fortaleza the boates are concentrated in a small area. The top-end girls will be "famous" in no-time.
What is "the big league" in Rio? Help? OK, the number of gringo-losers willing to pay overprice is higher in Copa.
[QUOTE=Elmo] The typical Fortaleza garota is an ugly short round gal with a pot belly and very little of the famous Brazilian bunda. [/QUOTE]
LOL, great report and great description of the typical Fortaleza garota. But you forgot to mention about the shape of their heads! A lot of the Nordeste garotoas have football-shaped heads, very funny looking I think; but it can be cute too. Your girl doesn't look like she's from Ceará though, too good looking. Was she from Natal maybe, she kind of looks like it?
It sounds like you hit the regular spots in Iracema, but just wondering if you (or anyone else here) have any info on the casa, or apartamento scene in Fortaleza where the locals primarily go? Also are all the discos open again? I had read that Kapital was closed down for a while earlier this year.
Kapital club is now called Forro Mambo. Other than the name change, it is exactly the same set up - large stage on the first floor with a band, electronic music upstairs in the smaller dark 2nd floor room. Cover charge of R20 each night, whether the place was jumping or dead. While I was there, all of the discos were open (Zippi bar, Europa club, Bikini bar, etc) and the gals did the regular nightly rotation between them.
The GDPs in Fortaleza were mostly ugly, short and round with a pot belly and very little of the famous Brazilian bunda. But like I said, there were a number of gems out there, if one was willing to dig a little. Was not able to hit the casa/apartmento scene, but would love to have. I know the well-heeled locals are not doing the typical GDP there.
You can check my Fortaleza postings from late 2004 (the last time I was there) for a couple more pics of the type of gems that can be found in Fortaleza, if you are willing to work a little.
I agree with Sperto - there are a lot of gorgeous gals in Fortaleza, they just not working as GDPs in the bars around Iracema. (Actually this could be said about any city in Brazil) As he suggests, check out Mucuripe Clube if you have game (speak some portuguese, can dance some forro, etc). On my flight out of Fortaleza, there were about 40 18-20 year old college gals on the plane, all heading off to Orlando to work at Disneyworld for two months and to learn more english on an exchange program. Virtually every single one was gorgeous - they could easily have been from Ipanema in Rio or Jardims in S.P. They made the typical Iracema GDP look pretty lacking. While chatting them up, they said that Mucuripe Clube was their favorite club.
As for GDPs moving on up from Fortaleza, I can only base my remarks on several beautiful garotas I have done in both S.P. and Rio - they started up north in their home towns, moved to Fortaleza for a bit, then moved to S.P. or Rio to make even more money - this is what they related to me - including one of my S.P. favs, originally from Rondonia.
Diane was not a Ceara gal, but from Sao Luis, and had gone to Fortaleza to make more money. This surprised me, as she is not a typical Sao Luis gal (heavy afro-brazilian population there), and I too had thought she was probably from the Natal/Recife area, until I heard her speak. She spoke with a very unusual accent - very fast and clipped - which I had some problems understanding. Maybe this is a Sao Luis accent - I do not know.
I would not write Fortaleza off, as the beaches are great, and if willing to dig a little, you can uncover gems at a third to a half of the price such a gal would cost in S.P. or Rio for TLN. You just have to work a lot harder for it.
The people from the north and northeast of Brazil often have very distinct features typical for the region or the state.
- Salvador: very strong black influence, mulatas, negras.
- Manaus: caboclo-look with some indian-blood
- Fortaleza: chubby, footballsheads, no necks
- Sao Luiz: not necessarily black, but often with very distinct cheekbones
- Belém: distinct checkbones and puffy lips made for kissing
- Recife: chubby, worn out Sertão-look, often plain ugly
It's fun, and quite easy, to guess where the girls come from. Of course you can also hear it on their accent.
Personally I'm very fond of the faces of the girls in Belém and Pará. The bodies of the bahianas. The attitude of the girls in Manaus. The horniness of the girls in Fortaleza. The girls in Recife... hmm, they might have nice cousins in Salvador.
Well fellow mongers by this time we all agree that the pros in fortaleza are not as beatiful as other cities.
The biggest proof of that is that the majority of girls pf the high end casas:
clube do whisky and casa de beth are imported from other states sucha as rio, goias, rio grande do sul, etc..
There is a prive that has not been mentioned on the forum, it's called prive belissima and it's located in rua vicente leite,2020.
It's a good place, they always have 15-20 girls a lot of them good looking.
Hope this post could help.
Brugal8
Just curious to hear whether it is picking up in Fortaleza by now, or whether we have to wait until closer to Christmas?
Is there anybody in Fortaleza right now that could give us an update?
I am coming to fortaleza just before christmas, and was wondering whether it would make sence to take a couple of days in Canoa Quebrada?
Balman
[QUOTE=Balman]I am coming to fortaleza just before christmas, and was wondering whether it would make sence to take a couple of days in Canoa Quebrada?[/QUOTE]
Go to Canoa. Try to stay over a weekend. It´s a mission impossible going there without getting laid.
I just came back from Canoa and it was my third time. I have there some friends and they told me that if they see foreigners with to young girls you can have big problems with the residents there.
Besides this it is not one monger destination. If you just go there with a "girlfriend" from Fortaleza you will have no problems with the pousada's.
La Dolce Vita is nice and payable. Outside the season $R 85,- per night.
[QUOTE=S Jonnie]I just came back from Canoa and it was my third time. I have there some friends and they told me that if they see foreigners with to young girls you can have big problems with the residents there.[/QUOTE]
Foreigners should never be with to young girls anywhere.
[QUOTE=S Jonnie]Besides this it is not one monger destination.[/QUOTE]
There are some GPs there. Propably hard for them to work in Canoa, as there are so many non-pro´s offering p***y for free. On weekends there are girls from all around, Aracati, Fortaleza, Mossoró etc going there for party and picking up a gringo.
Just about any gringo will get laid there. It doesn´t matter if he looks like Whoopy Goldbergs twin brother, are 70 years old, 130 kg, onelegged or have no knowledge of Portuguese. If you miss to get laid for free in Canoa on a weekend I think you should think of retiring from monger hobbying.
Hello Guys,
I spend many times my holidays in Asia, arround Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia and more. And now I start my first Trip to Brasil (Fortaleza).
I read many reports on web and I'am thinking have a lot of fun in Fortaleza;.) and found many important Information.
I have only one to this Forum. I have a Flat by a privat Owner, it is on Rua Jose Lino/Fortaleza. Varjota, the owner talk to me is 3KM to the Beach (What Beach? ) and 6KM to the Nightlive (Incarema? ).
I drive in Asia with a small Motorbike, can you rent this also in Fortaleza? . Or it is better drive everyday by Taxi to the Beach or Nightlive? I don't will rent a Car /when I get drunk;.).
Tnx a lot for answer
Bruno
[QUOTE=Bruenu]Hello Guys,
I spend many times my holidays in Asia, arround Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia and more. And now I start my first Trip to Brasil (Fortaleza).
I read many reports on web and I'am thinking have a lot of fun in Fortaleza;.) and found many important Information.
I have only one to this Forum. I have a Flat by a privat Owner, it is on Rua Jose Lino/Fortaleza. Varjota, the owner talk to me is 3KM to the Beach (What Beach? ) and 6KM to the Nightlive (Incarema? ).
I drive in Asia with a small Motorbike, can you rent this also in Fortaleza? . Or it is better drive everyday by Taxi to the Beach or Nightlive? I don't will rent a Car /when I get drunk;.).
Tnx a lot for answer
Bruno[/QUOTE]Bruno,
I believe the beach he is referring to is Praia de Futuro. The nightlife he is talking about is Praia Iracema.
Why should you need to rent a car/motorbike. Use a taxi to get where you want to, it is not going to be more expensive than renting a car anyway. Anyway, you are probably going to drink when you are going out anyway :-)
Balman
I have been to Fortaleza about 6 times, always with my GF so never have been looking for anything.
We arrived one night at about 3am and got to the hotel about 4am and we were hungry so went out to one of the street hotdog guys (right in the night spot area in Praia Iracema). We sat there and my GF talked to the 12-14 year old girls sitting there. They were looking for action but had not found any yet. This was very sad to me that they were so young and out there let alone at 4am.
Anyone thinking of going there for young girls, the Favelas are about 2 blocks away and will spot you taking a young girls and you are probably a target from then on, let alone the police seeing you and putting you in jail.
As Fortaleza has some problems with sextourism the Police occasionally check ID on gringos.
I asked Polícia Civil in Iracema yesterday if a copy of a passport autenticada in a Cartório is sufficient. The answer was, yes, it´s sufficient if you are checked by Polícia Civil or Polícia Militar.
If you would be checked by Polícia Federal only your passport will serve. No copies will do. If they are in a good mood they might follow you to your hotel to see your passport (and maybe some cash). If you don´t carry your passport they have the right to give you a multa/fine of R$ 800.
The Polícia Civil said I shouldn´t worry as it´s not very often Polícia Federal do these checks.
[QUOTE=Sperto] As Fortaleza has some problems with sextourism the Police occasionally check ID on gringos.
I asked Polícia Civil in Iracema yesterday if a copy of a passport autenticada in a Cartório is sufficient. The answer was, yes, it´s sufficient if you are checked by Polícia Civil or Polícia Militar.
If you would be checked by Polícia Federal only your passport will serve. No copies will do. If they are in a good mood they might follow you to your hotel to see your passport (and maybe some cash). If you don´t carry your passport they have the right to give you a multa/fine of R$ 800.
The Polícia Civil said I shouldn´t worry as it´s not very often Polícia Federal do these checks.[/QUOTE]
I am curious about how enforceable is to pay those R$800 - will that be entered into a central database that can be checked when you either leave or come back to the country? I doubt it.
I was at the Praia do Futuro in October and was controlled by the police. (don't know what kind of police it was).
They took me and a californian guy and a portuguese (he had no ID). We both had not autzorized copies of our passports.
This was not enough.
After we were in some police-stations and at the immigration-office at the airport, until they took us into our hotels to search for our passports.
The we got a stamp into the passport.
So, when we want to leave at the airport, they see that I did not pay.
I have to pay at the banco do brasil and present the paper to the officer at the airport, then I can leave the country.
That simple.
A stamp into your passport for a fine?
It’s the first time I’ve heard that, I think the only stamps that can legally go into your passport are immigration’s when you enter or leave a country, or some visas.
What did the stamp say?
It says: Autuado
Art125, 4some numbers.
Auto de infracao No.
Multa nao recolhida(fine not paid).
When they saw the receipt of my payment, they wrote (at the airport immigration when I left the country) by hand, that I have paid the fine.
Doing an investigation end exploring, I can honestly say that fortaleza does have a good mongering scene is just that you have to know your way around.
There are a lot of casas in this great city is just this is not Rio or Sao Paulo where the P4P market is more in your face.
High end places you got:
Casa da Beth
Clube do whisky
Prepare your wallets in both places (specially in casa da Beth).
There are more places with good quality for less $$:
Prive Bellissima
Casa Amarela
and other clubs that I will have more details for you fellow mongers.
Let's explore this city more, exploring has its rewards trust me
Brugal
Brugal, thanks and please continue with your reports on Fortaleza
Does anyone know if the Colonial Hotel is still in business and is it still girl friendly? Are there any other options? I will be there in March.
Thanks
Garotoz
Are still there sex travels to Fortaleza? What's the best?
[QUOTE=Brugal8]Doing an investigation end exploring, I can honestly say that fortaleza does have a good mongering scene is just that you have to know your way around.
There are a lot of casas in this great city is just this is not Rio or Sao Paulo where the P4P market is more in your face.
High end places you got:
Casa da Beth
Clube do whisky
Prepare your wallets in both places (specially in casa da Beth).
There are more places with good quality for less $$:
Prive Bellissima
Casa Amarela
and other clubs that I will have more details for you fellow mongers.
Let's explore this city more, exploring has its rewards trust me
Brugal[/QUOTE]Have you been to any of those casas? If so post prices, quality standard, opening times, location, services on the menu, service duration, etc. I mean, post some actual intelligence: casas’ names convey no information.
Sorry that it took me so long to write the rest of the info and let tell you fellow mongers taht it was never my intention to let the info on the casas incomplete.
I'm on the run but i'll start posting infos on these places today..
Brugal
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Sorry it took me so long but I'm going to start with this place.
The location:
Rua Vicente Leite 2020.
This place is a great option for all the mongers in this city.
You will find a team of 15-30 girls sometimes more or less and I think they open early like 6 P.M. or something.
Didn't really test any girl since I was just looking around but what I saw was good.
The best thing about it, the price 70 reais and trust me for the quality is quite a bargain.
Phone number of the place is (not 100% sure): 3248-0190
Well, that's the first one and I hope it was of some help I'll be posting some more places because I believe some mongers have just lost their hopes for this city.
Brugal
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Hello Friends,
I'm alessandro, 30 yrs old, from Italia.
I'll be in Fortaleza next month (April) from 8th to 15th: will anyone of you there in that period? We should drink something together. If so, send me an email!
Is there anyone who could give me any information about local beauties?
PS: I'll stay at oasis atlantico imperial. Do you know this hotel? I hope it will be. Friendly.
Thanks a lot
Ale
Just sitting here an evening in the cold north, googling for news from Fortaleza, I found some photos from a dutch site, a number of private partypics from the infamous Bikini Bar.
And by a strange coincidence, I found myself in two of those photos. Can You believe this ?
[url]http://members.lycos.nl/bikinibar/fotos.htm[/url]
Balluba,
the link you posted does not work with my computer :( you are sure the spelling is correct? I would love to fresh up my memories of this place!
Pyjama
It works for me.
Are you the guy with 3 limes in his mouth playing air guitar? lol j/k
All right, now it does for me, too! Maybe their server was down when I tried. Nice pics anyway!
Pyjama
A bit silent here, and therefor I post some Fortaleza photos.
This is Michelle, this is one of my favourites from Fortaleza. She lives together with an older girlfriend, and I have spendt the nights with her and them in their flat (room), in hotels and at my house. I have posted photos from her earlier. Im sure many of this board know her well.
These photos are from August 2006.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Elmo]
"The GDPs in Fortaleza were mostly ugly, short and round with a pot belly and very little of the famous Brazilian bunda. But like I said, there were a number of gems out there, if one was willing to dig a little. Was not able to hit the casa/apartmento scene, but would love to have. I know the well-heeled locals are not doing the typical GDP there."
I have been reading these posts since 2003. I keep reading how the Fortaleza girls, including the girls in Iracema, are short and fat and ugly. I visited Fortaleza twice, in 11/03 and 11/05. I saw fairly good looking girls all over the place, especially in Iracema, and I am picky. I met loads of tourists from Europe and the US in Fortaleza. Not one of them ever thought the girls in Fortaleza were bad looking. Why do you think all those Europeans are going there, and returning over and over? For the food?
I expect posts to come on right away starting tomorrow to say that it is true that there are very few good looking girls there. But I advise those who have never been there to keep an open mind and not be swayed by what you read on these boards. There just seems to be an obsession about putting down Fortaleza girls. Why not Recife or some of those other northeastern cities? The girls there are not better than in Fortaleza.
I have been to Brazil many times, and have been to places such as Bahia de Salvador, Rio, Sao Paulo, and Natal. I will spend the month of June in Brazil and I was thinking about possibly checking out Fortaleza. In your opinion, what are the similarities and/or what are the differences in appearances and attitude of the garotas of Fortaleza as compared to Rio? If anyone else with experience of both places would like to comment, please do. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Henry R][QUOTE=Elmo] Why not Recife or some of those other northeastern cities? The girls there are not better than in Fortaleza.[/QUOTE]
It's a well-known fact that all Nordeste, from Salvador to Sao Luis, abounds with short and ugly girls, yet it's especially true for Fortaleza and Recife.
Para and Amazona are not better.
Even if some states like SP, Goias, Parana, ect, have a decent ratio of good-looking girls, I personnaly find that Brasil is in its whole *largely* over-rated when it comes to the attractiveness of the female population.
[QUOTE=Prosal][QUOTE=Henry R]
It's a well-known fact that all Nordeste, from Salvador to Sao Luis, abounds with short and ugly girls, yet it's especially true for Fortaleza and Recife.
Para and Amazona are not better.
Even if some states like SP, Goias, Parana, ect, have a decent ratio of good-looking girls, I personnaly find that Brasil is in its whole *largely* over-rated when it comes to the attractiveness of the female population.[/QUOTE]
That is your opinion and we have to respect it but I totally disagree with you.
My opinion is that Brazil is a monger destination without match in the world and everybody needs to experience it at least once in their life.
In Europe the hookers who have more demand are brazilian and for you to say that SP, Goias and Parana have "a decent ratio of godd looking girls" is another opinion that I don't share but respect.
Prosal a question:
What places have you visited in Fortaleza and the other cities you mentioned.?
[QUOTE=Brugal8]Goiana .... Prosal, nice report on this marvelous city which is a true hidden gem of Brazil...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brugal8] that Goiania have "a decent ratio of godd looking girls" is another opinion that I don't share ..[/QUOTE]
You really changed your mind quickly.
BTW, have you EVER been in Goiania ?
LOL
[QUOTE=Prosal]You really changed your mind quickly.
BTW, have you EVER been in Goiania ?
LOL[/QUOTE]
Yes I have been and I didn't change my mind.
Goiana is GREAT not just decent that is what I was saying and the same goes for Sao Paulo and the other cities you mentioned if you know your way around you will get something of quality.
You said yourself on your report on Goiana that it was a good city for mongering and I agreed with you on that and that's why I said it was a hidden gem.
I still think is a great mongering destination as well as the other cities you mentioned.
This is what this forum is for, everybody can have their opinion the places that you say have a decent ratio olf good looking girls to me they have an excellent ratio.
So do not misquote me.
You have your opinion which I have to respect and I have mine.
To you Brazil is overrated to me is a GREAT mongering destination.
By the way your reports have been great on the cities you've been and you sent me on info on Goiana that I really thank you for. This is just my opinion on the mongering scene on Brazil, I respect you and your opinion Prosal
That's all
Brugal
[QUOTE=Mangera]I have been to Brazil many times, and have been to places such as Bahia de Salvador, Rio, Sao Paulo, and Natal. I will spend the month of June in Brazil and I was thinking about possibly checking out Fortaleza. In your opinion, what are the similarities and/or what are the differences in appearances and attitude of the garotas of Fortaleza as compared to Rio? If anyone else with experience of both places would like to comment, please do. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Rio has the edge in girls. One of the reasons is there are so many more girls. Also many of the girls in the top Rio termas are knockouts. But there are still many good looking girls in Fortaleza. There are similar looks as in Rio, with a lot of tanned girls with dyed blond hair, but it looks good on them. Of course, if you only like light skinned natural blondes, then the northeast is not for you. Rio doesn't have many of them either. But many of the "programa" girls in Rio look like that, since many come from the northeast. When I went in '03 and '05 programa girls in Fortaleza were probably a little more than half the price compared to Rio. An all niter in Rio was usually too expensive, but not in Fortaleza, at least the two times I went.
As I've said, I have been to Fortaleza twice, about a total of 3 weeks. I have never met a male tourist there who said the girls there were bad looking. Anyone who said that would have been laughed at. The subject never even came up! But then I read these posts and I am amazed.
I am not saying that Fortaleza is overflowing with knockouts. Don't expect playboy bunnies all over the place. I am just saying that there are many good lookers there, expecially in Iracema. You will also see some good ones on the beach at Praia de Futuro. When you go there you will not hear tourists complaining about how ugly all the girls are. That is only on this forum.
I have heard there has been a big crackdown since I was there last in November 2005. So I cannot attest to the quality now. All I know is this forum was knocking Fortaleza girls all the time in 2003 and 2005 when I visited, as they are knocking them now. What they wrote at the time should be taken with a grain of salt.
It is funny to see the debates that comes from time to time about where are the nicest girls in Brazil. To me this is strange, since we all should know that in a city of 2.4 mill. there are differences. Its like to believe that here in Scandinavia all girls are pretty, since all girls are natural blonde and have blue eyes. Well, they are and have not.
To me, and many of my fellows, it is more exotic with the skills of the girls from Ceará. I look more for the warm, kind and feminine girl, I dislike the cold, modern Scandinavian girl, who act and think more and more masculine, like a man.
Enclosed this post, two beautiful girls of Ceara.
1. Miss Ceará 2007, Rafaela Mendes, 18 y.o. (non-sexual photo)
2. I cant help it: Miss Sao José; I could fuck her too (non-sexual photo)
and at least my personal favourite of Fortaleza, the one and only
3. Natalie; one night in Porto das Dunas (bedroom photo)
[QUOTE=Balluba]It is funny to see the debates that comes from time to time about where are the nicest girls in Brazil. To me this is strange, since we all should know that in a city of 2.4 mill. there are differences. Its like to believe that here in Scandinavia all girls are pretty, since all girls are natural blonde and have blue eyes. Well, they are and have not.
To me, and many of my fellows, it is more exotic with the skills of the girls from Ceará. I look more for the warm, kind and feminine girl, I dislike the cold, modern Scandinavian girl, who act and think more and more masculine, like a man.
Enclosed this post, two beautiful girls of Ceara.
1. Miss Ceará 2007, Rafaela Mendes, 18 y.o. (non-sexual photo)
2. I cant help it: Miss Sao José; I could fuck her too (non-sexual photo)
and at least my personal favourite of Fortaleza, the one and only
3. Natalie; one night in Porto das Dunas (bedroom photo)[/QUOTE]The last one is really gorgeous ! Please PM me her number or tell me in which club can I find her. Is she a pro or semi pro?
Thanks,
Mario
Any info on the current police crackdown? I heard it's much harder this year to bring a girl to the hotels in Fortaleza. What about action at Iracema at nite? Are the bars and discos still hopping with "action" girls? And what about the early evening scene at the outdoor cafes in Mireiles on Beira Mar across the street from McDonalds? Are there still available girls daytime at the beach at Praia de Futuro? Any advice on how big the crackdown is this year regarding hotels, bars, discos, houses, beaches etc.
[quote=henry r]any info on the current police crackdown? i heard it's much harder this year to bring a girl to the hotels in fortaleza. what about action at iracema at nite? are the bars and discos still hopping with "action" girls? and what about the early evening scene at the outdoor cafes in mireiles on beira mar across the street from mcdonalds? are there still available girls daytime at the beach at praia de futuro? any advice on how big the crackdown is this year regarding hotels, bars, discos, houses, beaches etc.[/quote]
i was there last week and some of the discos in the iracima area were closed.. i think they are cracking down on ****.. there were several bars with some older gdps sitting in them.. but i was with gf. so no direct experience.
Hi friends,
I'm writing to have some information useful for my next holiday in fortaleza (21 August-05 September).
I'll rent a flat in beira mar and, while during the day I'll be in praia futuro quite, at night I'll go to hunt girls in "ground zero" (iracema headquarters). So I want how much money you suggest that I have to pay for "tln" with one girl? I'm seeking to understand until what amound at maximum I can aceept in a trade with one girl?
Thank's a lot for your suggestion.
A last question. Is the period good to hunt girls?
Pablo g.
[QUOTE=Pablo Gustoso]So I want how much money you suggest that I have to pay for "tln" with one girl? I'm seeking to understand until what amound at maximum I can aceept in a trade with one girl?[/QUOTE]
Between R$ 60-100 for TLN.
Hi guys,
How is the crime in [b]Praia do Futuro[/b], the reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at buying an apartment in Fortaleza, and I have seen a nice one in Praia do Futuro.
But I have been told its a very dangrous place, with favelas close to it.
The guy told me its ok to walk outside in the day, but to stay inside when the sun has past.
Is he correct, or is it down to common sense. Etc not wearing gold watches etc etc.
I would really apriciate if someone could tell me a little about this place.
Take care.
Is the quality of girls in Forta really as bad as Ive read from previous posts?
Chubby with big round bellys.
[QUOTE=Kevin1981]... I'm looking at buying an apartment in Fortaleza, and I have seen a nice one in Praia do Futuro.[/QUOTE]
One reason there are very few residencial building in Praia do Futuro is the wind and the salt from the ocean. The buildings in P F wears out very quickly.
The apartment building I have been looking at, is 18 years old, its located maybe 350m from the ocean (1block). So it may need some work, but im not certain.
Sperto, if you would to invest in an apartment in Brazil, where would it be?
Seem like you know Brazil very well.
A place where the girls are beautiful... :)
Later!
[QUOTE=Kevin1981]Hi guys,
How is the crime in [b]Praia do Futuro[/b], the reason I'm asking is because I'm looking at buying an apartment in Fortaleza, and I have seen a nice one in Praia do Futuro.
But I have been told its a very dangrous place, with favelas close to it.
The guy told me its ok to walk outside in the day, but to stay inside when the sun has past.
Is he correct, or is it down to common sense. Etc not wearing gold watches etc etc.
I would really apriciate if someone could tell me a little about this place.
Take care.[/QUOTE]
Yes Kevin,he is right its not good idea to walk around alone outside after the sun is down anyplaces in fortaleza.You have to take cab.
Here are some of the fat and ugly girls i have met in Fortaleza. ;-)
They all looks much better in reality then on the pics.
They all where very cute and hot in bed.
[QUOTE=Kevin1981]Sperto, if you would to invest in an apartment in Brazil, where would it be?
Seem like you know Brazil very well.
A place where the girls are beautiful... :)[/QUOTE]
My choice would be:
1. Rio
2. Salvador
3. Fortaleza
The price situation is different. You get more value for the money in Fortaleza than Rio, when buying an apartment.
[quote=kevin1981]hi guys,
how is the crime in [b]praia do futuro[/b], the reason i'm asking is because i'm looking at buying an apartment in fortaleza, and i have seen a nice one in praia do futuro.
but i have been told its a very dangrous place, with favelas close to it.
the guy told me its ok to walk outside in the day, but to stay inside when the sun has past.
is he correct, or is it down to common sense. etc not wearing gold watches etc etc.
i would really apriciate if someone could tell me a little about this place.
take care.[/quote]
my info is dated. i was last in p.f. / fortaleza in 2002. when i was there, p.f. was far from the city. you had to take a bus or taxi to get there otherwise walking would over an hour. i saw very little residencial housing in the area of p.f. and even fewer hotels. it seemed to be a place where the locals went during the day to have fun and that's it. when i was there there was a huge stage on the beach where bands had played or were playing at night. part of some special festival i think.
i did not get a sense that crime was a big problem in fortaleza or p.f. the biggest problem i saw was **** prostitition. but i suspect the p.f. area is deserted at night and that is usually somewhere you don't want to be.
i hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Sperto]My choice would be:
1. Rio
2. Salvador
3. Fortaleza
The price situation is different. You get more value for the money in Fortaleza than Rio, when buying an apartment.[/QUOTE]
Anyplace in the Northeast on the beach would be a good buy. In 2004 and 2005 when the dollar was still had some value, I saw TONS of condos being built in Natal, Recife, and Salvador. There is serious gentrification going on near the beaches. Several low cost hotels I used to stay at have been torn down or re-conditioned into high-end hotels. The locals told me that foreign money was responsible.
Now the dollar is low so it is not US investors building these condos, but the euro is still high and has a very good exchange rate with the real AND no tourist visas are required for European Union travellers. European investors are spurring the building craze for beach front condos.
[QUOTE=Kevin1981]The apartment building I have been looking at, is 18 years old, its located maybe 350m from the ocean (1block). So it may need some work, but im not certain.[/QUOTE]
I agree with George, the Northeast would be a great place for an investment property. I was last in the NE in 2005, and the amount of development that was going on was amazing. But why Praia do Futuro? Just out of curiosity, are you going to buy this building specifically to use as income property, or will you be living there as well? I would think the Iracema area would be a better place for rental property, since that's where more of the tourism is, although it might not be as safe as Futuro.
Some pics of Fortaleza's development from just a couple years ago. Can't imagine what it looks like now.
[QUOTE=Ezinho]
Some pics of Fortaleza's development from just a couple years ago. Can't imagine what it looks like now.[/QUOTE]
I was just there. Seems to be more condo construction near Beach Park than in the city. And Cumbuco.. The construction around BP had a lot of activity, workers. Cumbuco I did not see any workers, so not sure if the construciton is active.
I really like Fortaleza would be a good place to get a place, rent and stay there part of the year as well.
I think I'd also stay away from Praia do Futuro in terms of buying an appartment. In my opinion it's a place to go but also to leave after. The beach is nice, the barracas are great during daytime and some have parties at night (Barraca Caranguejo I think...).
But the area behind the beach is no place you would like to stay for any longer. There is just nothing to do or to have fun :-(
So my guess would be to settle in downtown Fortaleza, let's say Mucuripe, Meireles or Iracema (closest to the action!). If you speak some Portuguese, don't forget in Centro you will also find lots of GDP serving the local market. I got a nice session for about 20 R$.
Just my 2 cents...
Pyjama
[QUOTE=Ezinho]I agree with George, the Northeast would be a great place for an investment property. I was last in the NE in 2005, and the amount of development that was going on was amazing. Just out of curiosity, are you going to buy this building specifically to use as income property, or will you be living there as well? I would think the Iracema area would be a better place for rental property, since that's where more of the tourism is, although it might not be as safe as Futuro?
Some pics of Fortaleza's development from just a couple years ago. Can't imagine what it looks like now.[/QUOTE]Ezinho thanks for the photo nr 2 wich shows my apartment behind IBIS..Bought it 3 years ago for renting and bought another one near M. Tabosa to live there 3 months per year. Good investment and quiet region on the Beira Mar.
Again, forget buying an apartment in Praia do Futuro. The Maresia and the very high salinity brought by the strong winds in PF will make the metal in the building to corrode and destroy your electric equipment etc.
The corrosion level in PF is supposed to be the second highest in the world.
PF is deserted at night, except for the barracas with parties, and isn't to be considered safe at night-time. Pivetes from the two nearby favelas, Favela dos Cocos e a Favela Vitória, roam around looking for victims.
The days when you could take a girl at Chico de Carangueijo, on a Thursday night, and make it out on the beach safely is gone. :(
Guys,
I'll be in Forta. 7/17 for at least a few days. Last time I stayed in a nice hotel between Iracema and the next beach (towards Mierelles)(don't remember now, I'm at work). But it was NOT chica-friendly.
It is a priority to be ON the beach.
Any help is welcome...
as i, from my view from the other side of the eart, it seems to me that fortaleza has become more and more violent lately. i try to read about whats going on in the city, and today i came across an article about this issue.
according to the diaro do nordeste, there have been an increase of homicides in fortaleza this year. the first 120 days of 2007 307 persons have been murdered, in 2006 same days there was 263 cases.this is up 16,7%.
"the crimes have different motivations, but, the majority, is practised by account of interpersonal disagreements, generated in places or points of diversion and alcoholic beverage ingestion and other drugs, as bars, churrascarias, exits of clubs and also in fuel ranks.
fight of gangs, personal serrlements of accounts for debt of drugs, revenge and banal quarrels are the generating greaters of the homicides. other motivations are: crimes of order (pistolagens), passionals and confrontations of outlaws with the police forces." - diaro do nordeste.
however there has been a fall in the statistics of other crimes, like thieveries, robbery, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. there are districts as is more violent than other, among them are mentioned praia do futuro.
"one of the great concerns of the police in the area of combat to crime is the assaults that result in the death of the victims of robberies. only in may, diaro do nordeste entered, at least, 10 cases in fortaleza.
the victims of the crimes had been, in its majority, humble, diligent people that they followed or they returned from the work or had been assaulted when they returned from the leisure. between them, student elaine franklim de amorim (19), deceased with a shot of gun in her head, right at the door of her house. the crime, was practised by an outlaw, who demanded the cellular telephone of the girl, which she refused." (ddn)
over the years, i have from my brazilian friends (mostly from the upper middle class), been told; "do this and do that, dont go there and never in night and so on," and i have laughted inside me, thinking how afraid these people must be to live in their own country. well, it could be time to rethink.
so please, gentlemens, dont take stupid risks, be careful, and take your personal safety precautions.
balluba
[QUOTE=Kevin1981]The apartment building I have been looking at, is 18 years old, its located maybe 350m from the ocean (1block). So it may need some work, but im not certain.
Sperto, if you would to invest in an apartment in Brazil, where would it be?
Seem like you know Brazil very well.
A place where the girls are beautiful... :)
Later![/QUOTE]
18 years old ... may need some work ... does not that make sense, fellow mongers ;-)
Enclosed some another 18 years old R$ 50 one night investment as also surely needed some work !
Balluba
[QUOTE=Balluba]18 years old ... may need some work ... does not that make sense, fellow mongers ;-)
Enclosed some another 18 years old R$ 50 one night investment as also surely needed some work !
Balluba[/QUOTE]What a fucking hottie. Is that 50 usd? For how long? I have never been to Brazil. Is this the norm?
Thanks!
UW
I found some old photos from my first meeting with Fortaleza and Brazil. This goes back to 2003. These photos was shot by my old camera, and was not of hight quility, too dark. I have tried to lighten them in Photoshop, here are the results:
1. My first night in Fortaleza and Brazil, of the plane, have a shower, and directly to the Europa Bar, I had done my homework at this forum, I perfectly know where to go ;-) I bump into these two, claimed to be sisters, i dont know. My first experience with two girls, after a long marriage ;-) R$ 50 pr. girl, one Night.
2. A pretty blond girl, (18), with very nice attitude. R$ 50 TLN.
3-5. A cute dark girl (18), girlfriend style. I both liked her and disliked her attitude. She was the type of girl whom You are supposed to hunt for, or be hunted by her. Strange. Finally we ended up in bed, but it was not so great.
6-7. typically scenes from the praia at Beira Mar, can one have a better place to chill down in day hours?
Balluba
A few more, lightened up by Mr. Photoshop.
This is Vanessa or Wanessa.
A special girl, first met at Allo-Allo Brasil, who are there not anymore ( the Night Club at the top of the hill in the favela, direction Praia do Futuro, with telephones to communicate at every table :-) Ring - Ring !!!
I came there alone, and the telephone soon was ringing, hehe. It was strange, but really funny. Well, i hang out some days with Vanessa. I met her daughter, a little one year old cutie, as she of course was very proud over, and also her older sister, as then was not in the business, but was very friendly. She was babysitting the child, and was sometimes driving us, since she had a car.
It is people like them, who struggle to have a good life, and a future for them and their kids. At the same time wonderful girls, down to earth, friendly, normal and nice, this really steal my heart, to this country. Someone here agree with me?
Balluba
Great photos!
I agree with you. Go to Brazil and one or two are bound to steal your heart. What I love is their SMILES! Your girl's smile speaks volumes. Thanks for the photos.
RR
[QUOTE=Underwriter1]What a fucking hottie. Is that 50 usd? For how long? I have never been to Brazil. Is this the norm?
Thanks!
UW[/QUOTE]
Its 50 brasilian reals - from evening til next morning, 9 - 10 am or something. Clock isnt that important in Fortaleza. I dont know the currency USD - Brasilian Real.
You are welcome to join Fortaleza :-)
Here are some other photos to keep up my moral, now as it is close to a new "ferias" in Fortaleza (July 2007).
I met this girl in the last evening of my August holiday in 2006. I think it was quite early evening, at Zippy or maybe Bikini Bar. Allthought she looks a little scary to me, (I prefer normally not so dark girls), she turn out to be "a found".
She was very co-operative in all terms, and had a really, really girlfriend-like attitude. I enjoyed the Night with her, she was hot and clever with me, and we slept long in the morninghours, and had a late breakfast together in my house. As this was my last day, I had to drive her from my home in Aquiraz, to hers, in Fortaleza, in my rental car.
Even she knew i was travelling to Europe this very evening, she behaved like any teenage girl does with her boyfriend, holding my hand, kissing and fomling, she was very cosy, til I had to drop her of in some Rua in Centro.
Ohhh ... its always so hard to travel from Fortaleza and Brasil.
Balluba
PS: If somebody wonder why I dont mask the girls face (normally) is it because the girls are told and warned in advance they will enter at a large Brasil-site ... some believe in me, some dont ;-)
You lucky guy, you actually have a house of your own in Fortaleza? But it is quite a distance from Aquiraz to downtown Forta, not a disadvantage?
[QUOTE=Pyjama]You lucky guy, you actually have a house of your own in Fortaleza? But it is quite a distance from Aquiraz to downtown Forta, not a disadvantage?[/QUOTE]
Hello again :-)
Well, its about 20-25 minutes to drive from Porto das Dunas (Beach Park) in the Aquiraz community to Beira Mar, depending on the traffic. I have heard rumours that the road from Fortaleza - Praia do Futuro in direction Beach Park shall be buildt, with some new brigdes. Someone know about this is correct? I will check this out in July. In this case, they told me, the travel will be much shorter, and the travel will be very nice as well, along the sea.
Sometimes, when I have things to do in Fortaleza the day after party, I rent a hotelroom, they can be had for 60 -70 R$ with carpark and breakfast. Then I go to the praia, tanning, drinking beer, and eat. Later I find a girl and take her to the hotel in Praia Iracema.
But its also nice to take a cute girl to the house, have a (nude) night swim together in the swimming pool, and play hot brasilian funk and norwegian sweet songs, loud very loud ;-) Then the day after, maybe take the girl to the praia at Beach Park, to chill down, a few meters down the road.
So one can say there is many things to choose from ;-)
Balluba
Beautiful pictures Balluba!!!
I was planning to visit Fortaleza during my last trip to Brasil but at the last moment, I got stuck in Rio (if you know what I mean. :D ). I will definitely spend some quality time in Fortaleza as I have heard raves about it by both you folks in here and Brasilian friends in Brasil and where I live.
What are some good not too expensive girl friendly hotels near the beach in Fortaleza? (LOL, this sounds like the million $ question, but I had to ask it and as I'm sure many others are wondering the same, so anyone in the knwo, please shoot. :) ).
Unfortunately my experience dates back to 2005, but then I was staying in [URL="http://www.casablancahoteis.com.br/portugues/principal.php"] Hotel Casa Blanca[/URL]. Just booked a double room, and no hazzles at all. The staff was friendly to me and to my girl.
Found a page with some of the Fortaleza/Ceara hotels listed. There are no links to hotels' web pages, but google will help:
[URL="http://www.ceara.com.br/ceara/hoteis_pousadas_ceara.htm#hoteispraiafortaleza"] hotels in Fortaleza [/URL]
And why not just send them an email asking about their policy. For sure they have heard this question before ;-) That's what I did in 2005.
I agree with You Pyjama, the staff is friendly, and You have no problem with girls. Standard rate is R$ 80. if You enter with more than one girl, You must pay an extra fee, I think it was R$ 20. The downside with this hiotel is the incredible amount of "flowerspray" the cleaning personel are using in the rooms, it smells terrible.
On the other side of the street there is also a hotel, I dont remember the name. Its girlfriendly, no extra costs. The staff is very friendly. The rack rate is R$89, but it can be had for R$60, if You ask. It has a little swimming pool on the roof. OK breakfast, and are much used by groups of sweet students from outside Fortaleza.
In direction Beira Mar, up the street Rua Barão de Aracati, with the Holiday Inn, there is a nice, hotel of several low buildings called Colonial Praia. It has very good breakfast, and have a cosy and nice green garden and terrace with a quite large swimming pool, its like a pousada style, in the middle of the city. If You travel alone, its a perfect place, the staff is very friendly. There is a bar and they have a restaurant. You pay R$80 - 100, depending on the room. No problems to bring a girl to the room, no extra. But the hotel are mostly used of brazilians - families on holiday, so its not a partyplace for a group of men.
In the end of this street, away from the sea, there is a Scandinavian restaurant, with a sweet and friendly staff, serving You Norwegian "Kjottkaker" and Swedish "Smorgaasbord" :-)
The photos below are from outside Colonial Praia Hotel (non-sexual).
Balluba
i have not been traveling due to family situation in the last few years. now i am back. hopefully, i can make some contributions to the board in the next few months. coming back to isg is like coming home. a lot of the "old friends" are no longer posting or may be out of the scene but the new blood certainly continues the tradition making contribution to the community. :).
question regarding hotel. is there any hotel with good fast speed internet connection in fortaleza? wirelines connection or wireless? how fast the upload and download? thanks.
Johan : It is nice to have You here again. I can remember your name from earlier years, easy since it is common in Scandinavia. I hope that everything is fine with You :-) I am sorry, I dont have info about internetcoonection at hotels.
Speaking of memories, here are some from July 2004. It was my first night in Fortaleza this holiday, still 'jetlagged' and I was taking it easy. I headet for Praia Iracema. It was still early, and I sit down at the little partly outdoor bar, just few steps before Europa, to have a beer.
Three brasilien men was drinking at the neightbour table, one quite "white" young (25 yo.?), and two dark, some years older than the other. We started talking, the young one was from SP, and was a student in Fortaleza. After a while two young girls they knew from before joined us, and we was drinking beer and talking all together.
Well, the hours fleew, and it was time to move, and the young boy proposed we should go to his flat for a nachtspiel. At this time everybody had been drinking, (a lot), but he insisted to drive with his car, a little Gol. Right before we was entering the car, The Lord himself opened the sky, and sent a crazy amount of soft, warm water on us, and we became wet to the skin :-)
Thinking on this today, wow how crazy I was joining them. And sit in a car - drunkdrived car. But one of the girls was so sweet with me, and I was very drunk. I remember the window vipers didnt function, and we could almost see nothing when we driving in direction of Aldeota. I remember a huge, dark building, and I entered this, without thinking on safety.
It show up that this was an abandoned house, as should be totally renovated and the oldest dark man (40?) was a caretaker of this at least ten floor emty building.
Well not quite emty, since he was renting an appartement for his friend, the young student, and had one himself. We entered the appartment of the student, and it was very poor furnitured, 2-3 chairs, a table and a ringlet as he used for sleeping. The two dark men was going to make food, the student and one of the girls was starting to dance slow and kiss.
"My" girl and I was going to the bathroom to try to dry up, and soon we was kissing, fomling and finally having sex. I remember liftning her up on the granite sink and f*ck her standing :-) It was great, I was a teenager again, even I had more than twice her age ;-) She wasnt that super looking, she was more the typical cearence, but hey, for me the whole situation was an adventure.
After the food was servet, easy, it was salad, warm rice and some bread. When we felt sleepy, the old caretaker found an emty appartement two floor down, and gave us an a blanket and a ringlet, and the girl and I was soon sleeping there together.
Following morning, all of us was driving to down town, and they drove me to Colonial Praia Hotel, just in time for breakfast. There was no moneytalk ... this time.
This girl; of course she was a GdP, in the start of her carriere. I met her again, bringing her to the hotel now and then. But the first night was the best and most special, like a thing I normally dont do at home :-)
Balluba
[quote=johan]question regarding hotel. is there any hotel with good fast speed internet connection in fortaleza? wirelines connection or wireless? how fast the upload and download? thanks.
[quote=sprite13]what are some good not too expensive girl friendly hotels near the beach in fortaleza? (lol, this sounds like the million $ question, but i had to ask it and as i'm sure many others are wondering the same, so anyone in the knwo, please shoot. ).
hi guys, i can describe internet situation in hotel casa blanca: in the hall there 3 pc with fast internet for guests, without charge ; last year we had to pay 2r$ p/hour (in lanhouse the price was 1 r$ p/h).
in the rooms there is a connection (see the photo, even if the best reason of the photo is other...), but i did'nt try it. you can phone to the hotel's stuff, they normally speak a very good english.
many hotels are girl friendly in praia de iracema: hotel casa blanca, hotel americas( it's in front of casablanca, with little swimming pool), casa de praia (it's very near to casa blanca), that are in rua joaquim alves, near beira mar, but far from praia do futuro (taxy 20 r$ or more for barracas atlantis and coco beach). there are other in rua barroso : hotel raio de sol, hotel portal de praia , less comfortables, hotel praia de iracema (terrible choice. don't go there), many flats (that are not much expensive), like tabajaras.
there are too not girl friendly, like maredomus hotel, and generally the hotels high-level (4 stars): othon, iate, comfort, etc, so you have to go to a motel (motel village for exemple, in praia de iracema).
hope this helps and look for that garota cearense... simply wonderful
Regarding transportation in Fortaleza, I found this page very useful: [url]http://www.visitfortaleza.com/transportation/buses.html[/url]
I spent a week in Fortaleza in June of 2006.
Nightlife in Iracema remains busy, with several bars and nightclubs. The best place seems to be a club called Armazem, every Wednesday night; the place gets packed, with three or four different spaces (forro, techno, etc). As far as I could see, most of the girls are pro or semi-pro. Be very careful with the bill, though (actually, only the house keeps control on the orders; very easy for them to charge a few extra beers).
If you feel alone in the afternoon, ask any taxi driver to take you to Belissima. It's a house with 20 or 30 girls, you can take them to one of the in-house rooms or to your hotel; in-house service was about R$ 70. Nobody speaks English, but they will know what you are looking for.
Hi fellow mongers,
I have a quick question. I wanted to know how far is this place from Rio and what is the best way to get there. Looks like most of you had a good time there any latest reports from there.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Tiger
[QUOTE=Tigers787]I have a quick question. I wanted to know how far is this place from Rio and what is the best way to get there. Looks like most of you had a good time there any latest reports from there.[/QUOTE]
2805 km from Rio.
The best way to get there is flying, unless you enjoy a 48 hour busride. Flying will propably be cheaper.
P.s I've done the busride 5 times (in the old days when flying was expensive). This busride is actually very scenic and interesting. You get to see interesting landscape in this huge country.
With the month of the vacations, July, Ceará and Fortaleza police launch the operation "Alive Vacation". The operation have 2300 civil, military police and firemen mobilized in a special project for the security of the tourists. The operation suffer some modifications this year, because PM's are sent to the Pan-American Games in Rio.
At the same time Restaurants in Fortaleza estimate a 10 - 25 % fall of tourists this July. Problems in airfare, the image of a violent city, drive away tourists to other states. The strong Real should also mean something, I guess. The tourist branch are very concerned as the money from the tourists are of great importance for the total income in the city. This gives problems for real estate agents, hotels, taxidrivers, (and the GdP girls, I add).
As I in a few days are heading for Fortaleza, I can hope for more beautiful girls to choose from, for a lower cost :-)
As this also is a tourist forum, as I understand this, I enclose some photos, from the beach and streets of Fortaleza.
Balluba
Any suggestions for flights from Europe (ideally London) to Fortaleza? Is it best to just fly to Rio/SP and get internal flights from there, or are there more direct / economical ways? Searches on the online agencies tell me it's likely to cost 1500 EUR or so.
[QUOTE=Artful]Any suggestions for flights from Europe (ideally London) to Fortaleza? Is it best to just fly to Rio/SP and get internal flights from there, or are there more direct / economical ways? Searches on the online agencies tell me it's likely to cost 1500 EUR or so.[/QUOTE]
I normally go via Lisboa (TAP) or Amsterdam (qxxl.nl). Depending when You travel, London-Fortaleza flights cad be bought for approx. 1000-1200 Euro (July2007).
From London Gatwick I have been told that thomsonfly.com have charter, not for Fortaleza, but Natal. I have heard prices as low as Euro 250 but cant verify this.
Other members can have better info for You ?
Balluba
yes thomsonfly have a weekly charter flight costing buttons - i was quoted £170 each way, and its direct and way less hours than flying to sao paulo, trekking round the stupid circular arrivals hall and getting on a connecting flight for another 3 hours.....
[QUOTE=Biffy]yes thomsonfly have a weekly charter flight costing buttons - i was quoted £170 each way, and its direct and way less hours than flying to sao paulo, trekking round the stupid circular arrivals hall and getting on a connecting flight for another 3 hours.....[/QUOTE]
Hei Biffy
Do you have a link or something, as I cant find this at their homepage in internet?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZkXZV7DnDw[/url]
I found this on youtube. Can I confirm that this place is "girl friendly"?
I'll be in Sampa from 7/13-7/28. I'm thinkin about a side trip for a few days to Forta, but last time I was "thwarted" at my hotel. So I'm thinking about either a nice hotel AND a cheap flat. Or just a GDP friendly place.
Any comments would be helpful.
Thanks...n
[QUOTE=Bambino][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZkXZV7DnDw[/url]
I found this on youtube. Can I confirm that this place is "girl friendly"?
I'll be in Sampa from 7/13-7/28. I'm thinkin about a side trip for a few days to Forta, but last time I was "thwarted" at my hotel. So I'm thinking about either a nice hotel AND a cheap flat. Or just a GDP friendly place.
Any comments would be helpful.
Thanks...n[/QUOTE]
Bambino:
Please read my post about Hotel Casa Blanca and other hotels of 06-05-07. In sum; You will have no problems, the management is very "monger-oriented"
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=605632#post605632[/url]
Also interior photos (included garotas) in my post of 06-28-07.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=614578#post614578[/url]
Best of luck to you!
Balluba
Thanks, I think Forta. will be a nice complement to Sampa.
When I go to Rio, then I blend in a trip to the south.
I gotta get my feet on the beach, and a round, brown bum in my lap, for at least a few days. Last time I never made it to praia do futuro. More exploration to do!!!
And by the way, where did you find those honeys. They are the exact thing attracting me there. They are beautiful!
[QUOTE=Bambino]Thanks, I think Forta. will be a nice complement to Sampa.
When I go to Rio, then I blend in a trip to the south.
I gotta get my feet on the beach, and a round, brown bum in my lap, for at least a few days. Last time I never made it to praia do futuro. More exploration to do!!!
And by the way, where did you find those honeys. They are the exact thing attracting me there. They are beautiful![/QUOTE]
Bambino: Where did I find them? Its like this, they find me ... and also, when You come >>> they will find You :-)
Safe travel,
Balluba
Enclosed; a brown cute bum :-)
balluba:
[url]http://www.thomsonfly.com/en/destination_NAT.html[/url]
you'll have to call them to confirm the dates, they only fly once a week, and their search page sucks, so in this case use the phone....
I am almost certain, I will be going to Fortaleza for 2 weeks in Dec '07. This is a holiday trip and a chance to meet up with european friends that will be there at the same time. I look forward to reviewing this thread and picking up info from all you experienced mongers that have visited this vacation destination. In advance, I salute our fraternity in Brazil.
CC
After reviewing this thread, I'm beginning to have second thoughts about this town. Unless I'm not reading the reports correctly, the negatives outway the positives about three to one. Add to this, the long journey from my hometown and I'm almost questioning my own sanity for considering such a long trip. I've always been up for a challenge but unless someone can set me straight about my misgivings, I'm staying away from this overrated city. Any comments?
[QUOTE=Chicochulo]After reviewing this thread, I'm beginning to have second thoughts about this town. Unless I'm not reading the reports correctly, the negatives outway the positives about three to one. Add to this, the long journey from my hometown and I'm almost questioning my own sanity for considering such a long trip. I've always been up for a challenge but unless someone can set me straight about my misgivings, I'm staying away from this overrated city. Any comments?[/QUOTE]
I love fortaleza for a vacation, with a girlfriend or wife. I have never tried mongering there, but just does not seem like that easy. You have plenty of activities for couples, so many nice beaches, buggy rides, horseback rides, ski boats, restaraunts.. It just is a romantic city for me. I have been there 8 times and would think of getting a retirement place there. It is not Rio or Sao Paulo for sure.
[QUOTE=Chicochulo]I've always been up for a challenge but unless someone can set me straight about my misgivings, I'm staying away from this overrated city. Any comments?[/QUOTE]
Go there and see for yourself. Fortaleza has nice beaches, great nightlife, good non-pro potential and cheap and excellent mongering.
I like Fortaleza a lot. Others might prefer spending all their time in their small playground Copacabana.
[QUOTE=Artful]Any suggestions for flights from Europe (ideally London) to Fortaleza? Is it best to just fly to Rio/SP and get internal flights from there, or are there more direct / economical ways? Searches on the online agencies tell me it's likely to cost 1500 EUR or so.[/QUOTE]1500 euro, forget it:
600 Euro is possible with
[url]www.arkefly.nl[/url]
Is from amsterdam, webside I think is in Dutch only.
I want to be as objective and only minimal of my personal opinion. Goal is I report the facts, you decide your own opinions.
Fortaleza, if you refer to the night scenes around Pr. Iracema area, is very quiet and low level. The night club are merely in patched up brick houses with lack of level sophistication (e.g. air conditioning, bath room, all patch up work). There may be a lot of girls if you got in during the "right time" however, the scene reminds me very much of the Tijuna scene. I took three trips on three different nights (just to make sure i did not miss out anything and offer my best impartial assessment). On all 3 nights, I did not see the quality of the girls dramatically different one night or the other. On "average", I would say the girls around the Iracema area to be similar to the HELP type. However, give them credit, they do have a better sense of humor than the HELP girls. e.g. On many occasions when some of the girls propositioned to me, I waged my finger and gestured to them that they are not as pretty as a type I require, all of them just smiled and walked away.
Totally agree with the board members' assessment that girls in CE are short and tend to have a certain stocky (not fat but stocky) body shape. I prefer the long leg, at least 5'7" (no heel measurement), with a degree of bunda and ivory skin, dark eye type, which is rarer than rare here.
Weather wise, Fortaleza is more muggy than hot compared with Rio. If you intend to loose a few pounds, come. Also, Fortaleza is famous for its seafood however, at least in the Iracema area where the gringos congregate, almost all the restuarants' seafood quality is less than Rio's Copa area. In three days, five meals, I sampled all major seafood restaurants in this area. Since this is not meant to be a food report, I am not going to detail which restaurant I visited or what food I ordered. However, I did find the fish as old (not same day fresh as Rio) and the method of preparation and presentation crude. In one meal, I tasted the fish as at least 2 days old and asked to speak to the chef, he came out and I asked him how "old" were the fish he made for me, knowing that I know fish, he confessed that it was 2 days old. Although I was quite angry that a major fishery town served 2 day old fish to customer, I pardoned him as he was honest with me.
I think if you have only 1-2 wks vacation, definitely don't visit Fortaleza. You actually do yourself a favor by staying at Rio or SP as you have so much more fun without spending all the time and dollar. If however, you have more than 3 wks vacation and want to check out different scenes in Brasil, make Fortaleza as your "cultural awareness" tour.
[QUOTE=Johan]the scene reminds me very much of the Tijuna scene.[/QUOTE]Nice summary of Fortaleza; I actually think your description of the city is right on. The quote above was funny to me because the first time I walked into Zipi Bar, I thought I was in Adelita Bar instead! The resemblance between the two clubs was quite striking. But overall, I would have to say the scene in Fortaleza, as unimpressive as it may be, is still leaps and bounds above Tijuana; you really can't compare the two places that much. My worst screw in Forta was still better than my best screw in TJ!
And you're right about the food in Fortaleza as well, it really was disappointing. I think it's the only place I've been to in the world where I ate at more chain restaurants than local restaurants; I'm ashamed to admit it, but my favorite restaurant turned out, of all places, to be Habib's!
But overall, I think Fortaleza is a good "starting point" for guys who have never been to the NE before. For myself, it was good "practice" before heading north to São Luis, Belém, etc. I agree with you that, if you can, spend three or four weeks there, and then move on to neighboring cities/states.
[QUOTE=Cenoteguy]I will be arriving November 5 for four nights.
In addition to screwing hot, beautiful bubble butts I want to do some diving.[/quote]Sorry dude! You wont find many bubble butts in fortaleza. The women there look alot different than in Rio. You will find some big breast, flat asses and more out of shape women than you thought lived in brasil. Good thing is there personalities are still great! The atmosphere and set up is also great in Fortaleza.
Went to Fortaleza about two months ago, and you will not. I repeat WILL NOT see many "bubble butts." Me, I saw nothing but fat stomachs, and flat asses. Yeah, I know, a pretty horrible sight...and it was. Coming from Rio, I was pretty much in shock. Also, there's ot much variety. no black girls, and most of the girls have an indian look to them with a few loirdas here and there.
[QUOTE=Brotha]Went to Fortaleza about two months ago, and you will not. I repeat WILL NOT see many "bubble butts." Me, I saw nothing but fat stomachs, and flat asses. Yeah, I know, a pretty horrible sight...and it was. Coming from Rio, I was pretty much in shock. Also, there's ot much variety. no black girls, and most of the girls have an indian look to them with a few loirdas here and there.[/QUOTE]
I spent a few days in Forta in 2002. I was not impressed, though I had excellent sessions with one GDP. She was the type described by others here; short, plump/stocky, fair skinned. She did have a nice round butt, which the reason why I went wth her again. The majority of the other ladies I saw were not attractive to me.
I will not monger there again. I might go BYOP style (Bring Your Own Pussy) to spend time at Praia do Futuro.
I was been 3 times in Brasil, my personal ranking is:
1. Rio de Janeiro (absolutely the best)
2. Salvador de Bahia
3. Natal
4. Frotaleza
Just my 2 cents
"Short, plump, stocky, fat stomachs, flat asses, horrible sight and out of shape women." Sure, Fortaleza has it's (big) share of short cabeça quadrada's without necks. That bodyshape is quite common in some regions of the north-east.
Still there are plenty of beauties in Fortaleza, so why go for the unattractive girls? You can't judge a city just because you've seen a dozen of football-shaped-head-women. Me, I've never seen so many fat people as I saw when visiting the US. Because of this I don't categorize americans in general to be fatso's.
When I travel in Brazil I do this little game, when going on a bus or sitting down having a beer. I count 100 women in the age 18-35 passing by, counting the percentage of women which I think are doable. Fortaleza has a good percentage.
Anyway, each to their own. I'm just as happy if the Rio-mongers stay in Copa. Less gringos means better GP-market for me. I only have to share the Fortaleza GP's with thousands od Italians and Dutch tourists.
[QUOTE=Sperto]
Still there are plenty of beauties in Fortaleza, so why go for the unattractive girls? You can't judge a city just because you've seen a dozen of football-shaped-head-women. [/QUOTE]
Absolutely true! If someone spends his time just going to Zipi Bar, Europa Bar and Café do Mar, he will most probably miss the best looking girls. Just move a couple of meters further to Dragao do Mar, and you will see hundreds of beautiful young people hanging out on a Saturday night.
Also right: the girls around Iracema bars often do look similar and represent one type of girl (the one discribed as short, big belly, no waist etc), but there are absolutely beautiful women in Forta - they just seem not to go as GDPs and not to frequent this area.
More to share including pics when I will have more time!
Pyjama
Newbie here! Where are the beautiful garotas in Fortaleza? Termas, GDP, or at certain hang outs? What is the ratio during the middle of the week? Any hotels in good areas recommended that allow guests?
What is the risk for Herpies in Brazil...I read one in four is infected! You have this for life.
Has anyone used motels for their room for the night instead of getting a regular room? Sundays - Thursdays are usually 12 hour rates which is enough time for fun & sleep.
[quote]Where are the beautiful garotas in Fortaleza? Termas, GDP, or at certain hang outs? What is the ratio during the middle of the week? Any hotels in good areas recommended that allow guests?[/QUOTE]The best looking girls in fortaleza? Prive bellissima in rua vincente leite 2020 e choose one gem you like. Or arre egua bar in varjota district after 11 p. M. On Tuesday, armazem disco on wensday, or barraca croco beach after 9 p. M. On Thursday, discoteca mucuripe on Friday, or simply hanging out, best areas: barrio centro during day time and shopping iguatemi late evening. Better if you can speak a bit of portuguese, and even better rent a car rather than mova by taxi. And. B. Iracema bar and disco: be many ugly prostitutes, not easy but if you're lucky can find there some nice piece too and be aware, drinks inside are very expensive (girls always ask for red bull and whisky).
[QUOTE=BJfans]Or arre egua bar in varjota district after 11 p. M...[/QUOTE]
A good list. There is one place I havn't heard about, Arre Egua Bar. What kind of place is this?
[QUOTE=BJfans]... or simply hanging out, best areas: barrio centro during day time and shopping iguatemi late evening. [/QUOTE]
I have never been thinking on buying GDP's at Iguatemi. This is here I buy my rice and chicken and fill my frigde with beer. It must be my lack of fantasy. From now on; "vintequatro cervesa Antartica, e uma mulher muito linda, por favor..."
This said, the quantity of nice looking girls at Iguatemi is quite impressing.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Sperto]A good list. There is one place I havn't heard about, Arre Egua Bar. What kind of place is this?[/QUOTE]It's a bar with live music, the only good place open on tuesday. 80% of girls are simply normal but if you are in good shape and talk portugues you can meet them easily, other 20% are on the market. Your task is only to find them.
[QUOTE=Balluba]I have never been thinking on buying GDP's at Iguatemi. This is here I buy my rice and chicken and fill my frigde with beer. It must be my lack of fantasy. From now on; "vintequatro cervesa Antartica, e uma mulher muito linda, por favor..."
This said, the quantity of nice looking girls at Iguatemi is quite impressing.
Balluba[/QUOTE]They are not garotas de programa in Iguatemi, but you can try to meet them. It's not so difficult in Brazil!
Spent some days in Hotel Americas. Good quiet place to stay, no problems with girls, around 80 R$ / day.
Service of the girls range from nearly GFE to hard-core pros trying to rip you off. Never pay more than 100 R$ for TLN!!! Some started 200/2h....
This one was lovely but asked not to show her face which was quite nice with an indian touch. To be found anywhere in Iracema.
Some more action with her:
[QUOTE=Paulothai]... but why in action with clothes..? Something wrong with her boobs ?[/QUOTE]
Not at all, her boobs were absolutely ok! In fact she was about to leave around mid-day, fully clothed, when I took the pictures on the balcony. Then I felt I was ready for one more time with her, so I pulled her back to the room and started the deed. It was some hard work to cum a 3rd time this morning, I was exhausted and the temperature was already hot that day...
Next one is somehow different: she sticks out of the Iracema crowd, she doesn't fit into that scheme of dark morenas, indian looking curly hair girls. She has natural straight hair and would easily pass for an Italian girl. Had her for a couple of days, price negotiable. As I said: always <100 R$ TLN!!
Now is no. 9 detailed??
She is a nice person and gave a nearly perfect GFE. But her service and effort in bed got worse every day, so the third night was her last. BBBJ and anal.
Every day she was wearing some Italian's ring and ear clips, made her look elegant, even while sucking my dick. Thanks to you, Antonio ;-)
Some more of her to come if you wish.
I will arrive in Fortaleza today and I have already read all the reports published here, I think they will be very useful! Is anyone stayin in Fortaleza for the next 4 days? I'll be alone and it would be nice to have someone to talk and to drink with while we "hunt" the girls. I'll stay in Iracema Beach (Casa Blanca Hotel)
The indian looking girl again:
The last girl to post, actually the first I took out of Europa bar. Had her only one night, but met her almost every evening. When I took her she played the unexperienced innocent beginner, the following nights she dressed as ****tish as can be. Saw her been taken every night, once together with a second garota. BBBJCIM, anal. She got really wet, but who said all Brazilian girls have shaved pussies?? In fact the flash made things look worse than they were, yet the whole girl had kind of a rough feeling, even her tongue while kissing.
Told me that she was going to travel to Italy some days later to stay with an Italian. She made the best out of her last days in Fortaleza :-)
Some more of #685:
I did like her, if only her service hadn't deteriorated...
One bad thing about the bars: Europa bar charges an entrance of 5 R$, whereas in bikini bar above you have to get at least one drink. So just looking around for your personal favorite will cost you a little bit.
For how long did they have this system? It was still free when I was there 2 years ago.
Last few of this girl!
[QUOTE=Pyjama]One bad thing about the bars: Europa bar charges an entrance of 5 R$, whereas in bikini bar above you have to get at least one drink. So just looking around for your personal favorite will cost you a little bit.
For how long did they have this system? It was still free when I was there 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]
Nice pics, Pyjama.
Europa Bar didn't use to charge any entrance fee, just a minimum consumption. Quite expensive beer, 33 ml.
I like sitting next to the Europa bar in the Reggae-bar. They have cheap 600 ml beer, decent food and good music. Great scenery seeing the GP's arriving all dressed up and the streetkids pickpocketing the gringos.
After a couple of beer moving on to Europa Bar. I think Europa Bar is better than the Bikini bar (on top of Europa) as you have good contact with the girls passing by on the outside.
yes, watching the crowds passing this reggae-bar is fun! but three days in a row and you will see many familiar faces, girls as well as gringos. the scene is not really big there.
good thing about europa bar are all the big open windows. just stand outside and peek in. i entered bikini bar maybe twice, but it was dead. in the end everyone goes to cafe del mar which was packed every night (15 r$ fee, but they will give you a stamp so you can re-enter).
one more....
Here a few photos from 2007.
First batch is a funny girl called Eveline. She can be found around Armazem and Cafe del Mar, often with her good and cute amiga Renata.
She is a smart girl, cute with a european style. She have a nice body, with a pair of natural tits quite big for a brazilian girl. She can do wonderful things with those two, I remember once a tit-job, when she was on top of me, very clever.
Attatched photos are nonude.
Balluba
Ok, next is an incredible girl I prefer til call Alex. Europa bar seems to be her place. Mother of one child, still just in her very early twentyes.
She is so entustiatic and girlfriend type, and are very, very clever. She has some lively eyes, and are just funny to stay with. All the time talking and laughting, before under, and after the session. I have promised myself to look for her next time.
Attatched photos are both nonude and sexual. I have done a few corrections in order to protect the girl, and myselfes.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Pyjama]One bad thing about the bars: Europa bar charges an entrance of 5 R$, whereas in bikini bar above you have to get at least one drink. So just looking around for your personal favorite will cost you a little bit.
For how long did they have this system? It was still free when I was there 2 years ago.
Last few of this girl![/QUOTE]
Not only they will charge the entrance fee but they will also add a 10% service charge even if you get your beer from the bar and on top of that another 10% on the entrance fee. Yeap they charge service on the entrance.
Check your bill next time. Out of principle I always refuse to pay that.
El Greco
Just got here yesturday. Looks like I need to go find one of these and also check my bar tabs better. Wish me luck. Boa sorte.
[QUOTE=El Greco]Not only they will charge the entrance fee but they will also add a 10% service charge even if you get your beer from the bar and on top of that another 10% on the entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
Just tell the girl in the cashier that you bought your beer directly in the bar and that you have no intention of paying any 10% de taxa de serviço. Works for me.
BTW, I've been at some Comida a Kilo/selfservice that adds 10% as well. Same thing, don't pay. No garçon means no tax.
[QUOTE=Devilbuns]Just got here yesturday. Looks like I need to go find one of these and also check my bar tabs better. Wish me luck. Boa sorte.[/QUOTE]
Remember to check your bar tab after ordering a drink. Make the complaint at once if something is not correct. I have heard about scam at Cafe del Mar where customers have been added several more drinks than received. The following discussion with the security personel is not very funny.
Balluba
Thanks for the help all. I was able to enter both Europa and Cafe Del Mar for free. An old "friend" was lurking outside and asked the door man for free entries for me. I had to buy a drink for her, but we agreed on a cola before entry and she kept her word. I lost her after I got in so I guess I will not have such luck again on tonight's tour.
Note. I read about the quality here often. I find that there are some that fit the "fortaleza look", but there are just as many that look pretty damn good to me (yes before many cerveja).
Mombo (Kapital) has reopened. Now it is the "Titantic" upstairs is partly open now like Cafe Del Mar. Planning to hit it Friday as my last stop.
Don't forget Zippi's. Good starting place. Pay as you drink. No card, no entry fee and it has been very busy the last two nights at 11:00pm.
Tchau,
Dev
Again some photos from Fortaleza.
These where found in the outskirts of Fortaleza, at an outdoor Boité called Casa de Forró. Crowded with locals, Live forró music, with no other tourists, as I could see.
The girls are of the girlfriend type and I dont think so experienced. We had to work hard in competition with drunk local brasilians to have the girls, dance and chat a lot with them. Maybe I am fooled, but please let me have this imagination.
The girl in pink top is 19 and have some really huge juicy and firm breasts, and soon became a hottie willing to learn. A tasty memory to keep for my older days :-) The other girls in the photos are not tested by me, so no comments.
Fotos are NN.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Balluba]These where found in the outskirts of Fortaleza, at an outdoor Boité called Casa de Forró.[/QUOTE]
Is that the same place as Kukukaya?
[url]http://www.kukukaya.com.br[/url]
[QUOTE=Sperto]Is that the same place as Kukukaya?
[url]http://www.kukukaya.com.br[/url][/QUOTE]
No, it was a lot more simple, like an open air space on the fields with hight walls around. It was really a rural district. I am sorry, I cant remember anything else than Casa de Forró.
We rented a driver with his car, he works like a waiter at Beira Mar (Barraca o' DeDe). He is a big, sporty fellow, you could say he was our friend and bodyguard this night :) Of course he have local knowlegde.
We had him from 9PM til 430AM. I guess he was driving about 70-80 km., and we paid him R$100, and food at the Chico do Caranguejo on Praia do Futuro (Thursday night festa). A lot cheaper and more fun than taxi.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Balluba]No, it was a lot more simple, like an open air space on the fields with hight walls around. It was really a rural district. [/QUOTE]
I have been to a place like this, maybe it was the same. Also high walls around and an open air space with live music and local crowds dancing. We were two gringos each with his GDP who told the taxi where to go. Payed around 40 R$ to get there from Beira Mar, so go figure where this could have been...
But what an amazing place!
Hot women dancing an incredible style, so sensual... The music they played was of course forró style, they were singing portuguese (of course) - yet one song sounded familiar every few moments. That was strange until I realized it was an old ABBA song, with Brazilian rythm and Brasilian words :-)
Don't know if any of the girls would have been approachable, at least for my gringo's eyes there were no obvious GDPs.
All in all a great experience!
These are great adventures guys. A little too sketchy for a solo business traveler like myself. There is plenty around that is close to Beira Mar (where my hotel is) and also that place we are all familiar with. Big week for touristas from the south. But lots of talent to share.
Maybe next time I will find someone to share the risk and venture further out. Always hoping for the next visit.
Dev
[QUOTE=Pyjama]
But what an amazing place!
Don't know if any of the girls would have been approachable, at least for my gringo's eyes there were no obvious GDPs.
All in all a great experience![/QUOTE]
Actually it could have been the same place. I have also noticed these kind of spots before, placed in the middle of nowhere, and been wondering how they can earn money, far away from everything. But as we all know, brasilians love to dance, and its accepted to party even on a Monday.
These girls received only a few reals for the taxi fee back home, and they was worried about their jobs in the morning, and had to make telephone calls. So in this case its not fair by me to describe them as GDP's.
For us this was a great experience, and something different from Iracema!
Balluba
[QUOTE=Sperto]Just tell the girl in the cashier that you bought your beer directly in the bar and that you have no intention of paying any 10% de taxa de serviço. Works for me.
BTW, I've been at some Comida a Kilo/selfservice that adds 10% as well. Same thing, don't pay. No garçon means no tax.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you. After all, as far as I know, that 10% is "opcional" in Brasil not a must.
El Greco
[QUOTE=Balluba]So in this case its not fair by me to describe them as GDP's.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Thats why I said "obvious GDPs", your girls were just some out of these hundreds of normal girls who go there for dancing and having fun.
Here some more Fortaleza photos from 2007.
I have decided to put them into the Photo Gallery, but here is a taste - a nice ass in jeans.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Balluba]Ok, next is an incredible girl I prefer til call Alex. Europa bar seems to be her place. Mother of one child, still just in her very early twentyes.
She is so entustiatic and girlfriend type, and are very, very clever. She has some lively eyes, and are just funny to stay with. All the time talking and laughting, before under, and after the session. I have promised myself to look for her next time.
Attatched photos are both nonude and sexual. I have done a few corrections in order to protect the girl, and myselfes.
Balluba[/QUOTE]
That one is sexy Balluba!Parabens for the great taste. How much was the cost for that one?
[QUOTE=Sprite13]That one is sexy Balluba!Parabens for the great taste. How much was the cost for that one?[/QUOTE]
As usual R$50,- LT plus the money for bus.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Balluba]Remember to check your bar tab after ordering a drink. Make the complaint at once if something is not correct. I have heard about scam at Cafe del Mar where customers have been added several more drinks than received. The following discussion with the security personel is not very funny.
Balluba[/QUOTE]
The worst place of all is Armazem.
In other places, you keep a tab with yourself, where the house anotates your orders; you just have to make sure, after every order, that the anotations were correct, or, at check out, that the bill was added correctly.
In Armazem, you don't have a tab. You order, they bring you the drink, but you have nothing to keep control of it, or use as evidence later on.
Only at check out, they tell you how much you supposedly ordered, and how much you have to pay. I was overcharged two beers.
What I will do next time (if I decide to go back there) is to drink the cheap beer outside, and order nothing inside.
I always watch them scribble on that card. Does not mean I catch them. Maybe by paying attention, they are less likely to try it on me. One of the best ways I save on this is to not buy anyone a drink. Amazing how quickly they ask you for a drink (always the most expensive) then they share it with three amigas. I say no and walk away. These usually have a bad attitiute that you will need to deal with again later.
Some will argue, but if you visit that area, go to Zippies, it is usually better than I have read in these reports. You pay as you drink, no card, no cash out, no tab. If you need to leave in a rush. Done.
I am out of here soon. Nice ride again.
Tchau,
Dev
Hallo,
But it seems expensive? And is the service good
250 Real for one hour?
What is the price for a night and for one week?
Does anyone know? These ladies looks fantastic.
[QUOTE=Barek]I was in Fortaleza in several occasions and find that Casa Beth is a rip off, the girls ptretend to be superstars and sex idols.
Yu can find excelent girls and good prices on GAROTA NACIONAL([url]www.garotanacional.com[/url]).
I stayed with Adriana for a week and she was a great GFE, i presume she is still round .On another occasion we were a bunch of 3 fellows and she provided 3 friends with whom we spent a fantastic time , and toured Ceara.
All the best,
Barek[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bananalars01]Hallo,
But it seems expensive? And is the service good
250 Real for one hour?
What is the price for a night and for one week?
Does anyone know? These ladies looks fantastic.[/QUOTE]
jeezzz that realy sounds expensive....250 R for an hour??
OOOO man back when i spend 3 weeks in Forta...it was more like...25-30 reais for an hour!!! I remember fucking a hookie in tha parc nearby that Ugly concrete Cathetral...20 reais!!!! I also had to pay another 5 reais for the room rent...hahahahaha! And she was a GOOD fuck...tell you that:-) and back then I got 3.75 reais for an euro!!! (february 2003)
Gawdddddd; Brasil definately is OFF my list.....alas....I love them tasty bundas....however....i need to think about my checkbook balance LOL
Johan
No, I don't think prices have gone up so far.
It's more like talking about Rio's Vila Mimosa GDPs for 26 R$ or a Copacabana beach hooker for much more per hour. The girls' looks may not necessarily be much better if they charge 250 R$, they are aiming at a different type of clientele.
I'm sure the cheap ones are still there - as are the expensive GDPs. In August I never payed more then 100 R$ LT, and I got three good pops, BBBJ, anal. Girls didn't leave before 10 am, so I got lots of hours for my 100 R$.
Pyjama, thinking about escaping European winter and x-mas :-)
My, how things have changed!
20 years ago when I was living in Fortaleza, bar tabs were beer bottles or drink glasses - you order, you drink, you order again, but don't let them take the empty container (bottle or glass). When the pile starts getting too large, settle the bill and start over.
I definitely need to get back there for a bit of R&R. I occasionally bump into a few old friends from down there who tell me how much it's changed.
CW
[QUOTE=Cash Works]My, how things have changed!
20 years ago when I was living in Fortaleza, bar tabs were beer bottles or drink glasses - you order, you drink, you order again, but don't let them take the empty container (bottle or glass). When the pile starts getting too large, settle the bill and start over.[/QUOTE]
That system is still very common in Brazil. The bill is settled by the number of bottles on/under your table.
Besides being practical, it's fun building up a platoon of Skol- (or if you´re lucky, Bohemia) bottles with your buddies. Even more funny is when the girls gather around your table (like flies on shit, sorry) attracted by the "high-spenders".
The only difference to the "high-spenders" at Help, who put their Red Label and cheap champagne in a bucket of ice on their table, is that the beer-platoon gives results. :)
[QUOTE=Johan007]jeezzz that realy sounds expensive....250 R for an hour??
OOOO man back when i spend 3 weeks in Forta...it was more like...25-30 reais for an hour!!! I remember fucking a hookie in tha parc nearby that Ugly concrete Cathetral...20 reais!!!! I also had to pay another 5 reais for the room rent...hahahahaha! And she was a GOOD fuck...tell you that:-) and back then I got 3.75 reais for an euro!!! (february 2003)
Gawdddddd; Brasil definately is OFF my list.....alas....I love them tasty bundas....however....i need to think about my checkbook balance LOL
Johan[/QUOTE]I am here know. prices gone up extremely.
When I was serveral times in teh Europabar the GDP wants to have
200 Real for one hour.
But please take note: one hour ends when you come, if you come after 15 minutes it is finished.
I said to the GDP: 200 Real is too much: 100 is okay for me.
Result: they stopped the conservation immediatly.
Means theyu find enough who pays 200 Real for one fuck.
Too expensive.
A few years ago it was tremendous cheaper, but know ?
[QUOTE=Bananalars01]I am here know. prices gone up extremely.
When I was serveral times in teh Europabar the GDP wants to have
200 Real for one hour.
But please take note: one hour ends when you come, if you come after 15 minutes it is finished.[/QUOTE]
It's hard competition for the Fortaleza GP's. A TLN in Fortaleza should cost R$ 80, and never more than R$ 100. Tell the GP what you want, the time necessary and what you're willing to pay. If she doesn't accept it there are many more GPs.
One/two hour session should cost R$ 50-60. That should include multiple pops.
You must be tougher in your negotiating.
We arrived in Fortaleza on Nov 5 for a 4 night "warm up" before going to Rio for some serious fucking.
Took a taxi for $20 US to the hotel "Ibis". Excellent place with internet, restaurant and great out door Pool. Paulo at the desk was great. He arrainged for a "money changer" to come to the hotel for dollars to Realis exchange. We negotiated a rate of 1. 8 and bought $3500 US worth. The rate was good, so me and my buddy decided to go for it all right there and then. Our first day in Brazil! The guy came into the lobby and gave a couple "bricks" of cash. All in 50's. No need to worry about exchanging dollars anymore throughout the 3 city, 2/12 week trip.
I gave Paulo a R20 tip and he said that the hotel is "Girl Friendly" with R10 added to the bill for any girl that you might bring up. He smiled and said that there are many beautiful girls in Fortaleza and you won't be disappointed. Being somewhat Jet Lagged, I immediately had an adrenalyn Rush and set out for something to eat and the Hunt for young, beautiful, eager dark bush to lick. We took a short Taxi ride R7 to the Fish Market Area where there are lots of tables, bars, restaurants, flee markets, etc. At sun down things became apparent that girls were out and looking for their fix of cock and money. We had a great fish dinner at one of the best restaurants down there. Everyone knows it and I'm sorry I forgot the name. It is 2 stories and the crabmeat appitizer is not to be missed. Ask Paulo about it? After dinner, my mind starting to crash I saw the most beautiful, young blonde walking in front of the beach, near the open air Flee Market. You can't miss this place. She said her name was Nicole, was dressed to impress with a baige dress and matching pocket book and shoes. Hair golden with dark brown eyes and the whitest teeth you can imagine. She had a sexual smile combined with a nasty little girl appeal. I said "how much". She said 100 for an hour. Being too tired to negotiate lower and just wanted to get off and sleep we jumped into a taxi and went back to the Ibis for the hour session. Upon entering the hotel the girls MUST HAVE their GREEN PHOTO ID which the hotel makes a copy of and off to elevator we went. I did this 4 times for the 4 nights we were there. Or a girl a night.
She took off her clothes and we took a shower to together. I washed her butt hole and pussy really good because I was soooooooooooo fucking horny and turned on by this find. Back in New York this would cost at least $500 and in Vegas an easy $1000. Yes, we pay too Fucking Much! Thank God for Brazil! I buried my face into her ass after a good scrubbing with the Dove Soap that I brought with me. The girls loved the soap and my tongue. I was amazed that she frenched kissed me after my mouth explored all her cavaties. My dick was about to explode when I cracked open another Brama and we shared it before going to the bed.
I need more ass, so I asked her to turn over on her stomach and I put a pillow under her little tummy and tongue fucked her rose budd for 10 minutes. She was only 19, and I was old enough to be her Father at 44. The whole thing was blowing my mind. Hearing her moan made my heart beat faster. I turned her over and entered her wet pussy with my condoms and lub next to us in preparation for the deed. She looked at me in a trustful way and started to kiss me and then I down loaded everything I had into her.
It was an hour of bliss, an experience I will never forget. I paid her 100 and kissed her cheek and gave her a great big hug and off she went down in the elevator. I did not see her again, but would have went with her again. Even paying more. I was fortunate.
On night 2 met a 20 y/0 brunette down by the boardwalk. We agreed on R70 for the hour session. She took a shower with me and we did 69 in bed. Very good, although she was immature and not really into it like my first girl. Went to club Euro on night 3 and it was a Rip Off. Don't go there. We picked up 2 girls outside the club and agreed on R100 for the hour. Both were 20 y/o and seemed to rush me. We showered and she would not let me eat her pussy? It can't always be good, right. Decided to just fuck the crap out of her in missionary. She had an orgasm as I was in control and softly fingering her clit before sticking her with my stiff flag pole. It was OK. The last night we found a Massage Place near the boardwalk. R50 got us a good massage and blow job. There are 2 blondes in there. It has "Massage" written in Black Paint on the building nearby. Not a bad deal. My girl had big tits and licked my balls. Even offered me a condom to fuck her, but I wanted to cum in her mouth as she was OK for that. Blew my load, took a shower and waited across the street for my buddy drinking an Antartica Beer. We went back to the Fish Market area and had dinner again at that good restaurant. Saw alot of talent on the streets and wish I had more spunk to go again. We would be flying to Rio the next day and I knew I needed my rest for that. Read Rio Report 11/25. We did the "Philosopy" boat cruise which was good. I recommend it. The beaches are great and the people there very fitness conscience. They do alot of walking and excersing in outdoor "fitness" parks.
I will definately be back to Fortaleza and stay at the Ibis Hotel. I want to meet up with that hot, young, dark eyed blonde, my first Brazilian girl, my favorite of all time. Great seafood, cold beer, and lots of smiles.
Mongerers helping Mongerers.
Cenoteguy
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[QUOTE=Sperto]It's hard competition for the Fortaleza GP's. A TLN in Fortaleza should cost R$ 80, and never more than R$ 100. Tell the GP what you want, the time necessary and what you're willing to pay. If she doesn't accept it there are many more GPs.
One/two hour session should cost R$ 50-60. That should include multiple pops.
You must be tougher in your negotiating.[/QUOTE]
This is a quote for Sperto, Bananalars, good "old" Johan, Cenoteguy and others worried about the pricelevel in Fortaleza. (The neverending theme)
I fully agree with Sperto, if a chick demands RS100 pr hour, just turn your back around, there will be plenty other nice girls willing to join You for example TLN or even 24 hours for 50 - 100 reals. Some of them dont ask for money, they just take what You choose to offer after the session.
Still, I have noticed that some chicks have been spoiled by gringos, even some have been working in Europe, but normally this isnt a big problem. If You can have some smalltalk, and they enjoy Your company, it is possible to have great fun.
I have made a little photo story to underline my points, please open all photos from no. 1 til no. 9 below. It goes like this :
1. There are nice girls (a lot of them)!
2. Like this beauty (from autumn 2007)
3. For 50 - 100 Reals
4. In Night and Day, in 24 hours
5. They will do everything...
6. I mean Everything!!!
7. You can also go out dining with them,
8. You can put them in Your garden, use her as a Garden Flower
9. She will even clean Your garage !!!
.......................for 50 Reals pr day ...
Good Luck to You all, Balluba
Will be in Fortaleza starting tomorrow for about 2.5 months.
PM me if someone of the forum wants to meet for drinks etc
El Greco
Balluba: That girl in your photo story is a knockout! You lucky guy!
Cenoteguy: Just curious as to where is the fish market area? Is that the beach area in Iracema, with lots of restaurants, where no one goes swimming because of the pollution? Also, how much does the Ibis Hotel charge, and what area is it in - is it in Iracema, Marceilles or where?
thanks
Yes, that is the Iracema area. Didn't hear about "pollution". I guess that is why I didn't see many people swimming?
All the working girls seems to hang around the "Flee Market" area along the beach side. You can't miss the area. Lot's of beer places where they sit and give you the eye. A smile or wave over and you got it.
Ibis charges about $40 US a night. Ask "paulo" at the desk for the sea food restaurant he recommended. It is a 20-30 min walk to the where all the action is. Very convenient. Hotel charges R10 for girl to come up and she MUST have her Green ID card or she doesn't get in the room. I had 4 girls in 4 nights. Only one did not have the card, so I took her friend for R70. Very nice session.
Will be back next Nov or Dec. Definately. And then on to Rio
Happy Holidays. Cenoteguy Aka. The new york kid.
Cenoteguy:
Thanks for the reply. By the way, I plan to also be in Fortaleza and Rio next year about the same time as you. Do you live in the US?
will be arriving fortaleza this november 3rd or 4th for 4 nights.
afterwards flying to san p to connection flight to the "falls". 2 or 3 s. nights.
then to rio for a week.
anybody interested in joining me let me know?
good value in fort. rio fun, but the attitude on most of the talent there is based on the majority: "lets get it over with, your rich, and stupid for paying so much". "buy me a drink, give me taxi fare, and i might fake an orgasm". some of you guys out there are fucking idiots if you buy into her shit about caring for you? they are fucking prostitutes. keep that as the bottom line and you will escape mega drama and return to the states alive and off anti-depressants. the cunts over there dream about finding a messed up misfit like alot of you that go to helpee (what is big deal there with some money that mommy and daddy probably left you. and guess what. the ***** works you slowly to extract as much as she can get. tell them as i do. to go fuck them themselves (in a nice way) as we experienced mongerers do. they will respect you more for it, fuck you better, and avoid playing "major" games with you which is what it is all about. they are fucking tricks and we are the johns. hello!
yea, it is a "bargin" compared to vegas or new york or anywhere in the usa, but don't treat me like an idiot because you (*****) chose this line of work, don't have any skills aside from sucking a dick and spreading your legs, and was stupid enough to produce kids before getting a decent education, thus you turned into a fucked up, piece of shit, money hungry tramp. yeaaaaaaaaaaa, right. some of you have met "nice girls", they don't want money, just your sperm? just shopping, hand holding, true love, etc. i can not believe that some you can be so dense and weak. to buy into all that crap. i am in the medical field for over 20 years and it kills me hear all the stupidity that is discussed by so called "well healed mongers"? mongering is a way of life, a science, a private club, etc. and when some of you "dicks" pay double or triple the going rate for some pussy it burns me up because we, the experienced, well seasoned mongerers have to deal with ever increasing prices, and the bullshit attitude that comes along with it.
cenoteguy
this is the fucking best post i ever read in this thread!
i lived for 3 years in brazil, my 2 lovely kids were born in brazil (but live now here with me in the civilized world.) and i speak absolutely perfect portuguese and based on that experience i have to say: "cenoteguy is absolutely right. ! "
follow his advice and you will have a wonderful time there. but don't play the love-clown and overpay the bitches there. keep in mind they are just uneducated, horny, lazy bitches with (mostely) a lack of hygiene. would you bring such a girl to your house and present her to your mum if you met here in your hometown. probably not.
this does not mean you cannot enjoy them. never forget that you have what they need the most. a few bucks. this means you decide which girl, when and how you wanna fuck her, no need to play the clown for them.
happy mongering.
waterfront
ps. : yes, i know you found the very special lady that is different than the others and wants to give you her heart for free. lolz
[quote=cenoteguy]will be arriving fortaleza this november 3rd or 4th for 4 nights.
afterwards flying to san p to connection flight to the "falls". 2 or 3 s. nights.
then to rio for a week.
anybody interested in joining me let me know?
good value in fort. rio fun, but the attitude on most of the talent there is based on the majority: "lets get it over with, your rich, and stupid for paying so much". "buy me a drink, give me taxi fare, and i might fake an orgasm". some of you guys out there are fucking idiots if you buy into her shit about caring for you? they are fucking prostitutes. keep that as the bottom line and you will escape mega drama and return to the states alive and off anti-depressants. the cunts over there dream about finding a messed up misfit like alot of you that go to helpee (what is big deal there with some money that mommy and daddy probably left you. and guess what. the ***** works you slowly to extract as much as she can get. tell them as i do. to go fuck them themselves (in a nice way) as we experienced mongerers do. they will respect you more for it, fuck you better, and avoid playing "major" games with you which is what it is all about. they are fucking tricks and we are the johns. hello!
yea, it is a "bargin" compared to vegas or new york or anywhere in the usa, but don't treat me like an idiot because you (*****) chose this line of work, don't have any skills aside from sucking a dick and spreading your legs, and was stupid enough to produce kids before getting a decent education, thus you turned into a fucked up, piece of shit, money hungry tramp. yeaaaaaaaaaaa, right. some of you have met "nice girls", they don't want money, just your sperm? just shopping, hand holding, true love, etc. i can not believe that some you can be so dense and weak. to buy into all that crap. i am in the medical field for over 20 years and it kills me hear all the stupidity that is discussed by so called "well healed mongers"? mongering is a way of life, a science, a private club, etc. and when some of you "dicks" pay double or triple the going rate for some pussy it burns me up because we, the experienced, well seasoned mongerers have to deal with ever increasing prices, and the bullshit attitude that comes along with it.
cenoteguy[/quote]
Cenoteguy (or others):
I have been to Brazil twice and will return this November, 2008. You mentioned the going rates. What are the going rates in November (not during Carnival), for short time and also for all nite? Please specify dollars or reals. I'd like to know about the rates in Rio, Salvador, and Fortaleza. I know Rio is much more expensive than the northeast. Also, I am older so I will probably have to pay more than a younger guy. Just a general ballpark figure will do, but please be realistic. (In past trips I've found it's often more expensive for me than a few of the posters claim it will be). Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Cenoteguy]Will be arriving Fortaleza this November 3rd or 4th for 4 nights.
And when some of you "DICKS" pay double or triple the going rate for some pussy it burns me up because WE, the experienced, well seasoned mongerers have to deal with ever increasing prices, and the bullshit attitude that comes along with it.
Cenoteguy[/QUOTE]
Don't pay more than 150 for 2 hours in Rio, 250 all night. AND makle sure they hold their end of the "contract". Don't pay them if they "get sick" and want to leave early. Sorry, you can deduct it from the agreed price. Hold your ground on this. It is a game and if you lose they will trash you to all their friends and you will be known as a fucking sucker. This is alot of money for them, but they "ACT" like it is nothing. Read a book about Poker and the art of the bluff. 2 tricks equals a month pay for the average working person in Brazil. At work right now. More on Monday, my day off and salute to Martin Luther.
Cenoteguy
Fortaleza is approx 50 less than Rio.
Never use dollars.
We (myself and a couple of friends). We are in our 40's and know what we are doing. Will be around and easy to find if you are in the same place and time as us. We love to go out, eat good, and have a blast. Always being cautious and safe. I'll be happy to assist you which will show the girl that you have "back up" buddies if you need help or if they decide to "play games" or do a "cop scam". Meaning the boyfriend cop friend that she fucks once and awhile and splits the take comes to the apartment/; hotel after she calls and complains with him asking for more money or go to jail, etc. It is a common scam played all over Asia and South America. Usually played on solo mongerers who make themselves Vulnerable! I have found after 20 years of mongering all over the world (mostly in Mexico) that a "team approach" is best. Most of the girls work in teams so why shouldn't we? Also, most want to get as much as they can and quick as they can. You are the bank and they want to make that one big withdrawal if they can. Don't let it happen! We USA guys have a bad rep about that. Yes, we empathize too much and feel sorry, etc due to our fortunate up bringing. (I blame religion for this) education, good family values, travel, higher income, etc. I get really pissed off at a girl who tries to take advantage of me or plays me. They get nothing and thrown out. If the cops come (happened once), I say she wanted to use drugs with me and was talking about commiting a crime nearby, etc. Fight Bullshit with Bullshit. The cops anywhere will leave you alone if you say someone tried to get you into drugs or a scam. Also, it is nice that one of my buddies is a NYC Homicide Detective and you don't want to fuck with him in any situation. I am in Medicine for over 20 years and will be in the Philippines next month for scuba diving and mongering. See the forum for more. All in all we monger to have fun, let loose, share, and explore new and exciting realms (termas). Man will always monger, married or not. We don't live as long as our female counterparts, but have more sexual gratification based on many years of study, etc. We are more superior than them. The age quickly and start to fall apart after child birth (harmone loss) We rule the world in Business, Finance, Health, and Politics. We are mongerers!
I propose to have an ISF convention held in a different mongering capital every year. I love Brazil. I love woman, sex, and the cute games they play. But like poker, they are playing to win and send you home with nothing. I play to win. Always.
Cenoteguy. Long Island, New York.
[QUOTE=Cenoteguy]We (myself and a couple of friends). We are in our 40's and know what we are doing. Will be around and easy to find if you are in the same place and time as us. We love to go out, eat good, and have a blast. Always being cautious and safe. I'll be happy to assist you which will show the girl that you have "back up" buddies if you need help or if they decide to "play games" or do a "cop scam". Meaning the boyfriend cop friend that she fucks once and awhile and splits the take comes to the apartment/; hotel after she calls and complains with him asking for more money or go to jail, etc. It is a common scam played all over Asia and South America. Usually played on solo mongerers who make themselves Vulnerable! I have found after 20 years of mongering all over the world (mostly in Mexico) that a "team approach" is best. Most of the girls work in teams so why shouldn't we? Also, most want to get as much as they can and quick as they can. You are the bank and they want to make that one big withdrawal if they can. Don't let it happen! We USA guys have a bad rep about that. Yes, we empathize too much and feel sorry, etc due to our fortunate up bringing. (I blame religion for this) education, good family values, travel, higher income, etc. I get really pissed off at a girl who tries to take advantage of me or plays me. They get nothing and thrown out. If the cops come (happened once), I say she wanted to use drugs with me and was talking about commiting a crime nearby, etc. Fight Bullshit with Bullshit. The cops anywhere will leave you alone if you say someone tried to get you into drugs or a scam. Also, it is nice that one of my buddies is a NYC Homicide Detective and you don't want to fuck with him in any situation. I am in Medicine for over 20 years and will be in the Philippines next month for scuba diving and mongering. See the forum for more. All in all we monger to have fun, let loose, share, and explore new and exciting realms (termas). Man will always monger, married or not. We don't live as long as our female counterparts, but have more sexual gratification based on many years of study, etc. We are more superior than them. The age quickly and start to fall apart after child birth (harmone loss) We rule the world in Business, Finance, Health, and Politics. We are mongerers!
I propose to have an ISF convention held in a different mongering capital every year. I love Brazil. I love woman, sex, and the cute games they play. But like poker, they are playing to win and send you home with nothing. I play to win. Always.
Cenoteguy. Long Island, New York.[/QUOTE]
Had the cop scam pulled on me once, cost me R300. I got off cheap, could have been worse and that was on my 5th trip! So, you have to keep your guard up at all times, no matter how many trips you have made! However, I did f**k her raw before hand! (hehe!)
How about a convention in Brazil (Rio or Sampa) in November?
Yes, Lets get a fuck feast, networking, big time party, etc. "Convention" in Rio going this November 2008. I will be there with my posy from New York. Have some friends from Germany, and Las Vegas going. WE HAVE TO start planning NOW so we can save incrediable dollars or Reales doing deeds, catering, etc. My hotel, behind the Balcony Bar allows girls up as long as you are low key and basically respectful. There will be gang bangs going there. Count on it. More brothers, more options. They (hotel owners) know what your doing and they like me for I treat them with respect. Mongerers have made the owners of Termas and Girl friendly hotels Rich. It is about time we get something back for this? Enought of the games and bullshit. My idea is to meet every day and do some activities, sports, etc. There will be a short talk and info exchange, etc. Then re-group at different VENUES to eat, drink, and of course. Monger. There will be a couple of DELUX "Motel Festa" orgies/gang bangs scheduled (my favorite thing). Beach activities, discussions, fine dining, buddy making, etc. In the past mongerers have been secretive, and distant. It is time for change. Especially in a town like Rio. Where they push their pussys in your face and the attitude has gone down the tubes.
We will call ourselves "The Global Brotherhood" or "The GB's". There will no money extraction, scams, or dues in anyway. I will try to do as much as I can to "give back". We help each other out, protect each other, and stay in touch. If a mongerer in Las Vegas has a spare room for a planned visit, then maybe he could help you out and vice versa? This is all about NETWORKING with people and commerodery (I can not spell). So fellow Mongerers. What do you say? Shall we become stronger and show those hot little bitches that we will not tolerate Bullshit and that we can be extremely friendly, safe, fun, and generous. When word gets out that you are a "GB" they will give more RESPECT and by your affiliation you might get fucked better due to the power we will amass. It is good for them too. REFERALS and increased business. That is the premium. And that is the name of the game.
I call for the first GB convention to be in Rio this November. I will be known as "CENOTEGUY" and acting President. If anybody thinks they can do a better job then let me know? This is not about EGO, but about Helping US. This historic first meeting will take place IN Copa somewhere convenient to all the smut, where I will introduce myself and speak. An itinerary will be discussed and we can take it from there. Numbers protect us and saves us money in the long run. Were there to have a blast, be safe, and get better deals than normal. For Example. If we have 5 guys interested in festa with 5-8 hot take outs from a service we split the cost, etc. Also, we have security in numbers. It eases the mind, thus you have more fun. Don't have to worry about getting ripped off, etc. Watch out Help Girls, here come the GB's!
The convention First Meeting will happen for I will be there with a hand full of buddies. Lets do this. This is not bullshit. I don't bullshit ever. Sometime in the second week of November works for me. For we will be there. PLEASE EMAIL ME at "[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]" for updates and where to meet, time, etc.
The Global Brotherhood is "Mongerers Helping Mongerers", Having a blast, making new friends, sharing, and being protected and safe.
Don't let me down. This for the best. For us all.
Regards,
Cenoteguy
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In 2003 I was 18 days in Fortaleza. I must admit that Fortaleza was the wrong choice for me, too few black girls, almost only Morenas and white girls.
Anyway I had some fun. During my holidays I stayed full time with a girl called Karla. I met her when I arrived at the appartment house. She was looking for a taxi and I came with one. We exchanged phone numbers and later met for dinner in a restaurant. She was very beautiful (see pic Karla_01a, Karla_19a and Karla_20a) and also an intelligent and interesting person. When she was visiting her mother, she did that almost every 2nd day and sometimes stayed during the night at her house, I used to stray around and pick up some ladies. I had contact with Karla until 2004, then she met an Italian and went to Italy with him. Maybe she came back to Fortaleza, who knows.
I also had fun with Priscilla (RIMG0018a, RIMG0034a), Franciede (fra01a) and some other girls, whose photos I have lost.
I had extreme fun on several occasions with Cristiane (cristiane_01a. 04a). She gave me the best blow-jobs of my life, sucking almost 1 hour, which is not convenient for most girls because of the size of my best part, but for her with her very big mouth it was a real pleasure to suck my dick. In 2005 when I was in Rio I met her occasionally in the cafe Meia Pataca, she had grown fat and wasn't anymore a target for me.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Cenoteguy]Yes, Lets get a fuck feast, networking, big time party, etc. "Convention" in Rio going this November 2008.
Cenoteguy[/QUOTE]Count me in, I had planned on being in Bunda Heaven over ThanxGiving '08 anyway. What time frame are you talking exactly? You need to free up your PM box, you'll need to communicate via email.
Blast from the past!!! A little Tatiana for your viewing pleasure.
Fortaleza on 11/04 for a few nights and then to the Falls for some of natures art, and then Rio. Say the second week of Nov.
Yes, will free up my PM box.
Thanks for the photos.
c
I have to past two continents to get there, I did once and will be doing it again. Count on me, I will be three for the convention in Rio November 2008. I like the idea of going to forteleza and do some sight seeing as well
David alias colombaa
I will be in Rio that time also. This will be my second time, and will be looking for a roommate to share a nice two bedroom condo one block from the office. Wish Cenoteguy would open up his email for messages. I will be going Nov. 6-16. I wonder if I should go to Fortaleza? How far is it from Rio, and how much for travel costs? Talk to ya all later.
Mncpa1
Last Saturday night, 23 February, the police was invading the clubs in the Iracema area. Something like 30-50 policemen, some of them riding horses, was raiding first Zipi Bar, then storming into Europa Bar, Bikini and Titanic. Some police dressed civil with camcorders was filming the guests. I believe there also was a TV team present.
I was lucky to be warned just shortly before, as I weared no documents. Rapidly paying my bar tap, and managed to go away into a dark side street, with my girl. Just seconds after, two policemen was blocking also this street. All taxis with passengers out of the area was controlled at the Rua dos Tabajaras, just after Habana Cafe.
After this, I guess its business as usual, but it have to be frustrating for those who was caught witout ID, to be fined, after hours waiting at the police station.
Balluba
I am looking for somebody who want to rent together with me a ( 4 persons) appartment with a car for a period of 4 weeks.
I am 29 years from Holland ( a brasil veteran ). Interested add a report.
Alo,
I hope all is well.
Just a warning: Hotel Casa da Priaia will charge you 10 reals per girl on your final bill.
Watch out
I have been Diving and Mongering the last 6 weeks in the Philippines. Flying home to New York and little while. In VIP Asiana Lounge. Showers, massage, gourmet food, unlimited booze, etc. I'm sooooooo fucking spoiled. All my money gone and have to return work tomorrow!
I have to submit credit card this weekend to open my emails.
Will get back to you about this November in which my buddy and I plan to visit again.
I kind of fell in love with a young cutie here 20 years my junior. She works in a hotel in Manila and loves to kiss. Something that really sends me and some girls don't do?
Anyhow. Cheers to you all and I will be in touch.
Cenoteguy
I'd like to spend some days on my next trip to Brasil in June in Fortaleza. A few questions:
a) how's the weather like in early June in Fortal?
b) Which hotel would you recommend? Preferably one near the beach, in a safe bairro and near the action.
c) From reading the past reports in here, the going rate seems to be 50-60 for SL and 100-150 for TLN. Is it still the same rate or has it gone up?
Thanks to all for their valuable feedback.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]I'd like to spend some days on my next trip to Brasil in June in Fortaleza. A few questions:
a) how's the weather like in early June in Fortal?
b) Which hotel would you recommend? Preferably one near the beach, in a safe bairro and near the action.
c) From reading the past reports in here, the going rate seems to be 50-60 for SL and 100-150 for TLN. Is it still the same rate or has it gone up?
Thanks to all for their valuable feedback.[/QUOTE]
Hallo Mr Sprite, here are one reply with my opinions :
a) June is a nice time normally with sunny days. There can be a short rainfall during the night, nothing to worry about.
b) Depends on your taste. I dont live so much in hotels anymore, but here is an older post about a nice hotel. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=605632#post605632[/url]
c) Do not pay more than 50 for an overnighter. This isnt necessary, as it is not hight season and most girls are pleased with this amount, and some 10 for a mototaxi. You will meet girls that wants 200. Please turn your back to them. Normally they are cold persons, and not the type of girl you are travelling so far to experience. There are a special group of girlfriends working especially inside Cafe del Mar, all of them look very nice and lively, You should avoid. They demand R$200, they try to leave you fast, and their behavior in bed are really bad. My and my fellows opinion.
There are so many other girls, many from interior states, beautiful fresh 18+ teenagers to have a good time with.
Happy hunting!
I'm currently writing from my hotel in Fortaleza, having spent here last 3 weeks.
I can confirm what Balluba said, with a point.
Almost every attractive girl here in praia de Iracema will ask for 100 and up for 1 hour (with some cases 2 hours).
Girls with a 7 and up in a 10-scale will ask for 200, for sure.
I have been coming here since 2001 and I must say these days girls have changed a lot, with that princess-movie-star-attitude, I personally hate.
Most of them will not approach you, and just wait for foreigners to make their move, to pick at the end the most "easy" one, willing to pay more, and inoffensive from a sexual point of view.
Days of the Disegual are over, this in my opinion has turned into a business.
Anyway if someone is willing to get laid with less attractive women (my personal POV), will find his match around 50-100 reais.
Howewer any given night has 300-400 girls moving around praia de Iracema.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Tatase]I'm currently writing from my hotel in Fortaleza, having spent here last 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me the name of the hotel where you are staying. I am contemplating a trip to Fortaleza next month and I would appreciate any advice you can give.
My Hotel has a 110 reais policy for every girl you bring in, with a 6:00AM wake-up call, so I would not recommend it (luckily these rules do not apply to me, as I have been coming here since 2001).
So I would recommend you to stay at Via Venetto, where there are absolutely no girls-related policies, and rates are around 70-80R$.
Another choice could be a flat in the Porto de Iracema buildings, where a 2 room flat can be found around 120R$ / day.
The second option is very close to the Praia de Iracema action, let's say 3 minutes walking, while Via Venetto is at 8R$ cab ride.
These 2 are common options here in FOR, and with no surprises at the end of your stay (extra costs, etc), anyway many Hotels are available around 50R$, and should not be a problem to bring in your princess.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Tatase]
So I would recommend you to stay at Via Venetto, where there are absolutely no girls-related policies, and rates are around 70-80R$.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Balluba]Hallo Mr Sprite, here are one reply with my opinions :
a) June is a nice time normally with sunny days. There can be a short rainfall during the night, nothing to worry about.
b) Depends on your taste. I dont live so much in hotels anymore, but here is an older post about a nice hotel. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=605632#post605632[/url]
c) Do not pay more than 50 for an overnighter. This isnt necessary, as it is not hight season and most girls are pleased with this amount, and some 10 for a mototaxi. You will meet girls that wants 200. Please turn your back to them. Normally they are cold persons, and not the type of girl you are travelling so far to experience. There are a special group of girlfriends working especially inside Cafe del Mar, all of them look very nice and lively, You should avoid. They demand R$200, they try to leave you fast, and their behavior in bed are really bad. My and my fellows opinion.
There are so many other girls, many from interior states, beautiful fresh 18+ teenagers to have a good time with.
Happy hunting![/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot Balluba. Much appreciated. I'll also keep in mind your wise tips.
Cheers.:)
Anyone stay at the Colonial Praia recently? I have been at the Luzerios for years, but it is no longer GF. I read in an old post it was nice and GF. How is it now? WIll be out there in a few weeks, for business and need to stay in a Hotel for expense reasons. Otherwise I would do a flat in a second.
Thanks,
Dev
I think the Colonial Praia is currently being renovated, if not demolished. It is the one in front of Ibis, right?
[QUOTE=Devilbuns]Anyone stay at the Colonial Praia recently? I have been at the Luzerios for years, but it is no longer GF. I read in an old post it was nice and GF. How is it now? WIll be out there in a few weeks, for business and need to stay in a Hotel for expense reasons. Otherwise I would do a flat in a second.
Thanks,
Dev[/QUOTE]I think it is closed for renovation if not demolition, is it the one infront of the Ibis?
Ok, any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Dev
[QUOTE=Devilbuns]Ok, any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Dev[/QUOTE]
I stayed in the Casablanca last year, it was well located and girl friendly.
[url]http://www.casablancahoteis.com.br/[/url]
Also, this list was useful to me:
[url]http://www.visitfortaleza.com/hotels/iracema.html[/url]
Thanks Unforgiven,
I will be there next weekend and I will give a full report when I return.
Dev
Guys.
Just wanted to say I have decided to sell my house, and take an early retirement. And will be moving to the Philippines for awhile. After mongering all over the world many, many years I have decided to settle down and marry a beautiful 21 y/o de-virginized wonderful girl. I am 45 and yes, like young ones. I guess I would like to have a family. She is so innocent, works hard in a restaurant/bar, and very intelligent. I have fallen in love with her and she is very hot and really loves me for me, not my bank account. Doing the math I could live well for the rest of my life there. Alot of X Pats are doing it right now. The Philippines are VERY CHEAP and one can live above middle class on $1500 month or less. Some live good on less than $1000. English is widely spoken and the Diving is some of the best in the world. Something I'm very passionate about. We will travel to the US once a year for tax season, financial advisor meeting, MOM, Disney, etc.
I will not be back to Brazil and will always remember my hot, steamy nights with incrediably beautiful young steamy hot woman of Forta and Rio.
Take care and thanks for the memories.
Cenoteguy
Do you guys have addresses, direction for these putarias? Do you have similar high end places to recommend? Getting tired of the ponte de ingleses scene, would liek to see where brazilians seek relacao and have heard these two places are mainly for brazilians. Would appreciate views, reviews, experiences.
In reply for Sperto:
a few memories from the daily two o clock dance at Boa Vida:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ock0QFOX2ro&feature=related[/url]
and the cute Renata:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijA9L-f4ob8&feature=related[/url]
and in the evening... Bikini:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvs0Farq5Xw&feature=related[/url]
look at the cute dark girl on the dancing, her name is Varelly, in orkut
[url]http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=12737424554320660696[/url]
she is even more cute and sexi in real life :-)
Here at the Casa Blanca and I was told to change hotels due to a very high chance of being robbed or worse. Anyone have any issues here? I have been to Fortaleza many times over the last 4 years, but first time at this hotel. I know the strategy of no jewelry, watches, dress down, carry little money, but I was still warned. Just curious of any previous reports of problems. I plan to write a full report of this place when I return in another week or so.
Tchau,
Dev
[QUOTE=Devilbuns]Here at the Casa Blanca and I was told to change hotels due to a very high chance of being robbed or worse. Anyone have any issues here? I have been to Fortaleza many times over the last 4 years, but first time at this hotel. I know the strategy of no jewelry, watches, dress down, carry little money, but I was still warned. Just curious of any previous reports of problems. I plan to write a full report of this place when I return in another week or so.
Tchau,
Dev[/QUOTE]Casa Blanca is a safe hotel, I just come back from Fortaleza and I was hosted on that hotel, I recommend it.
[QUOTE=Calibre34]Casa Blanca is a safe hotel, I just come back from Fortaleza and I was hosted on that hotel, I recommend it.[/QUOTE]I thought so, but I wanted to have someone else's opinion - a local here I work with was very nervous when he found out I was staying here. I will write up a nice report after next weekend - when I return home.
Too bad you are not here now, would be fun.
Dev
Full review of the Casa Blanca Hotel in Fortaleza.
Located at 194 Rua Joaquim Alves, Praia de Iracema, you are just off the main road Rua Aquidaba. Take a left on this road and you are heading on a short walk to ground zero. I chose this hotel based on recommendations from this forum. I work here sometimes and my company pays for my travel. I needed a hotel that was "nice" enough to not alarm people and also be GF. I found fewer hotels are GF now, especially along the Beir Mar. You can find them, but you must pay an additional "tax" for any visitors – ranging from 150 to 200 reals. Too rich for my blood. Casa Blanca has no charges and still takes visitor’s ID when they arrive and calls your room as they leave to check on you. Nice.
For more details and a good look at the hotel, google Casa Blanca Hotel. There is the hotel website as well as a great YouTube video. Be sure to note these show very well done videos and photos and could be old since the hotel is not as perfect as the video and photos show (what ever is right? )
I recommend the LUX room. It ran me 90 reals a night and is pretty nice. They have outstanding internet in the room, by wire. Bring your own CAT5 since I had several the hotel supplied that did not work. They also have 2 or 3 terminals in the lobby. I eat the breakfast each day and it is decent. I have included some bad photos from my cell to show the difference in rooms (I tried both), if you go with the standard room, it is very small. The staff speaks good English and is very pleasant. None of those little shampoos in the room, they sell some stuff in the lobby, no problem for me – no hair/no shampoo needed. The laundry service is not expensive, and not too great, but better than me washing in the sink. Leave your room key at the desk when you leave for the day – otherwise they will not clean your room. Also ask for a lockbox key, each room has a box, but you need a key to secure it – a must.
The rest is pretty standard – they have a mini bar, hot and cold shower (ok kinda warm and cold). The water is heated by some central heater, not the plug in one found in many showers in Brazil – fear of 220v electrocution while wet and naked is not a welcome concept for me.
There are several restaurants on Rua Joaquim – basic stuff, but good. Security is good – but late at night the area is a little sketchy. I chose to walk to most places in the day time, but once it got past 11:00pm, I opted for a taxi. The hotel locks the front door after a certain hour, so you will need to knock. Remember most garotas you see as you walk to ground zero are NOT garotas – they are transvestites. Easy to spot sober – just an FYI.
The photos named small are the "standard" room. The "Lux" are the others. Sorry no action photos. I am working on it.
[QUOTE=Devilbuns]Full review of the Casa Blanca Hotel in Fortaleza.
Casa Blanca has no charges and still takes visitor’s ID when they arrive and calls your room as they leave to check on you. Nice.
[/QUOTE]
One good report !
In addition; If You bring two girls with You, You must pay R$ 80-90 extra.
Also, there is a free secured car park in the basement if You bring a car.
Do they still have that irritating smell of "perfume" they spray when cleaning the rooms ?
[QUOTE=Balluba]
Do they still have that irritating smell of "perfume" they spray when cleaning the rooms ?[/QUOTE]Sorry I missed the two girl charge. Didn't try that option, next time! As for perfume, I did notice it some, but with most developing countries, the plumbing isn't vented like I am used to so the occasional smell of sewerage over came the flower smell. I think the noise from the elevator hit me the most. When the door opens on any floor, I could here the loud "ding" when anyone entered or exited the elevator, and loud tone would sound. Especially when someone stands partway in the door. Ugh. My room wass next to the farthest away from the elevator.
Tchau,
Dev
I am from holland and visit fortaleza for a few times. Now the direct flights are full for the end of the week. I now maybe want to choose for Natal.
I want to know from people who visited natal and fortaleza what is the best for semi-putas, not the hardcore pro's
I'm preparing my first trip to FOR and I am reading right now this entire thread. I'm just wondering, how is the situation in FOR in terms of the police crackdown? Is it still required to have a copy of the passport (or worse yet, the actual passport at all times while in FOR)?
Also, is the month of June considered low or high season in FOR?
In terms of accomodations:
I'm hesitating between the Hotel Cocal and the Casa Blanca. Are these still (still specially for the Casa Blanca)girl friendly?
Thanks a lot.
Here in Brasil everybody needs an ID all the times. By the law one has to carry an official ID all the times and for foreigners that ID usually is a passport.
I don't know about police shakedowns in Fortaleza, but I'd keep a copy of passport picture page and enter stamp and just to be sure enter/exit card.
If you want to go few steps further, go to cartorio and get the copy legalised and that should be ok with the police. Although if police decides to be a real asshole he can demand actual passport. Failing to show the passport may result as an arrest.
Most of the time police just doesn't care, but I believe that its better to be safe than sorry.
I agree. I never carried a passport until there was a bust one night and the bouncer at the cafe (short stocky guy. Very cool dude) told me to get away fast (I was just trying to enter). Now I carry the passport. I have a copy just to see if it will work, but I have never been stopped. Knock on wood.
As for hotels. Check out my review on the casa below. It is where I will stay next time for sure.
Dev
[QUOTE=Perkele]Here in Brasil everybody needs an ID all the times. By the law one has to carry an official ID all the times and for foreigners that ID usually is a passport.
I don't know about police shakedowns in Fortaleza, but I'd keep a copy of passport picture page and enter stamp and just to be sure enter/exit card.
If you want to go few steps further, go to cartorio and get the copy legalised and that should be ok with the police. Although if police decides to be a real asshole he can demand actual passport. Failing to show the passport may result as an arrest.
Most of the time police just doesn't care, but I believe that its better to be safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]
Is the Viale Vanetto flat still girl friendly?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sprite13] Is it still required to have a copy of the passport (or worse yet, the actual passport at all times while in FOR)?[/QUOTE]That's perfect.
I am in Fortaleza right now until Friday night. If anyone is there and would like to go hangint out together, please drop me a line as Id love to meet some of the regulars in here to go hunting together.
Last night I went to a house where there were about 12 girls, most 6-7 and a couple of 8´s. It´s located in the Aldeota district/bairro. No entree fee, no pressure to buy drinks, beer cheap at 3reais for a chopp and girls were 90$Reais for an hour inside the house with no charge for the room or 130 reais to take our out for 2 hours. I was told there are usually a lot more girls there, upto 50-100 during the week. I´ll give this place another shot in the next few days. The name of the place is I belive ´Belize´ or something like that.
I chose a very good looking amazonian named Roberta. Very wild and very sweet. Overall, I´d say a definite repeat for this place.
Anyone familiar with apartments, incalls and casas, termas or strip clubs in Fortaleza? Please list them.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Last night I went to a house where there were about 12 girls, most 6-7 and a couple of 8´s. It´s located in the Aldeota district/bairro.[/QUOTE]
Do you know the address?
[QUOTE=Sprite13]It's located in the Aldeota district/bairro. No entree fee, no pressure to buy drinks, beer cheap at 3reais for a chopp and girls were 90$Reais for an hour inside the house with no charge for the room or 130 reais to take our out for 2 hoursThe name of the place is I belive ´Belize´ or something like that.[/quote]For Sperto and other mongers:
Hi guys! I hope the name is "Belìssima", in brasilian is called "Privè Belìssima" o "casa de massagem Belìssima". Address Rua Vicente Leite 2020, bairro Aldeota, phone 3248-0190 and all the taxy drivers know where is. I have to say those things: the price for brasilian men is 70 R$ /hour, for gringos is 90 R$, someone told the difference is for the taxy driver, but I'm not sure; at night is better that the taxy driver wait for you outside, because the road is'nt safe; obviously the owner of "Belissima" call a taxy for you, but is better not change; is better have a drink or to speak with the girl you choose about the service (anal or not, BBJ etc); when you're confident, it's better go out for 2 hours in your hotel or in a motel paying 130 R$ (in Belìssima the rooms are quite clean but the quality is low); maybe you can stay with the girl during her free day of the week.
Hope this helps
FORTY
Anyone going to be around in Fortaleza from July 29 to August 8? PM me if you will be there and want to grab a beer.
Dev
I was told from my friend by msn that in last days policia federal made passaport control inside cafe del mar. Any new about it?
I was there last night. Since my last visit the only differences I saw was the Bikini Bar is open again, and the Europa is closed. The locals couldn't tell me why, but looks like the usual cycle. All else was business as usual. The Heiniken Bar (next to Cafe Del Mar) was overflowing. Looks like it is getting much of the Europa business for now. I will do some deeper "investigating" tonight.
Thanks for your review. I used to stay at Hotel Americas, just across the street. Being a 6ft6 guy I do need a bigger bed, so I found out during my last 3 week stay in NOvember 2007. How is the size of the beds in Casa Blanca (Lux room) ?
Thanx,
Deux deux
[QUOTE=Deux Deux]Thanks for your review. I used to stay at Hotel Americas, just across the street. Being a 6ft6 guy I do need a bigger bed, so I found out during my last 3 week stay in NOvember 2007. How is the size of the beds in Casa Blanca (Lux room) ?
Thanx,
Deux deux[/QUOTE]I just returned from there. I have no way to measure exactly, but I counted floor tiles and there are 6 full tiles and about 2 parts of a full tile in length (the tiles look to be 12"). Aprox king size width. Mine had a hard lump down the middle, not the newest beds, but I still recomend highly. The staff was very helpful. The price was higher (high season? ) $120. 00 BR. If you call for reservations, try to negotiate a lower rate. Let us know if you can get a lower rate. Still not a bad deal.
Dev
[QUOTE=Deux Deux]Thanks for your review. I used to stay at Hotel Americas, just across the street. Being a 6ft6 guy I do need a bigger bed, so I found out during my last 3 week stay in NOvember 2007. How is the size of the beds in Casa Blanca (Lux room) ?
Thanx,
Deux deux[/QUOTE]
This is the bed at Casa Blanca.
[QUOTE=Balluba]This is the bed at Casa Blanca.[/QUOTE]
Nice double mattress at Casa Bianca they have Balluba. What about the pillows? LOL
Nice bed report - much better than counting floor tiles.
I need to get my mind INTO the gutter more!
Dev
Here Natalia as I have have posted photos from some times earlier. Often seen at Armazem together with her older sister or a girlfriend.
She is actually pregnant now, and had a sweet curved stomach, about 4 months old. I believe the father is a Scandinavian ( but it isnt me ...)
I talked with her at Boa Vida, Praia do Futuro where these photos are taken, and also met her at the Dutch (orange) barraca close to the market at the Beira Mar.
I cannot confirm that she is available now, I did not ask, as I was with my family. But do not be too surprised ...
Anyway, she is a lovely girl, and can even swear in both English and Norwegian :-)
Balluba
....sorry no hight quality photos....
This summer I was aware that my favorite hotel of many years in Fortaleza, Colonial Praia Hotel, was torn down, and was now a construction site.
This is regrettable, since the Colonial was something very special in the big city. Pousada style with low houses, gardens, terraces and the big pool with a cozy bar. Most guests were couples and families on vacation, but no trouble to invite a girlfriend on a icy beer or a caipi. A decent breakfast, always with good coffee and a pleasant staff has given me many fine moments here.
Even if I have a house on the outskirts of the city, I look after a similar hotel, with the medium price range. I like to get away from my neighbors now and then, live in the city, as I did as a tourist on my first trips to Fortaleza.
I do not think of a common monger hotel as eg. Hotel Casablanca, but perhaps someone here has a good match with similar facilities to share?
I heard many good things about this hotel and tried to stay there this past spring. I saw the remains. Too bad. Any suggestions for more hotels that are of this class and guest friendly would be great. As you saw below I am happy with the Casa Blanca, but alternatives would be great. I checked a few that used to be GF and now it is either a 150 to 200 reals charge or simply "not allowed". Times are changing.
Dev
[QUOTE=Balluba]This summer I was aware that my favorite hotel of many years in Fortaleza, Colonial Praia Hotel, was torn down, and was now a construction site.
This is regrettable, since the Colonial was something very special in the big city. Pousada style with low houses, gardens, terraces and the big pool with a cozy bar. Most guests were couples and families on vacation, but no trouble to invite a girlfriend on a icy beer or a caipi. A decent breakfast, always with good coffee and a pleasant staff has given me many fine moments here.
Even if I have a house on the outskirts of the city, I look after a similar hotel, with the medium price range. I like to get away from my neighbors now and then, live in the city, as I did as a tourist on my first trips to Fortaleza.
I do not think of a common monger hotel as eg. Hotel Casablanca, but perhaps someone here has a good match with similar facilities to share?[/QUOTE]
Balluba,
The hotel I said when I was in Fortaleza last june was a very good one, called Hotel Ideal Praia, about 1 block from the praia Meireles. Safe surrounding, close to the action, good clean and spacious suites for a reasonable fee. I paid around 80 reais. If interested, I can pm you pics of the suites I stayed there. I dont remember the name of the street not the complete address anymore but do a quick google search for Hotel Ideal Praia in Fortaleza and you will find it very easily.
God I miss Fortaleza and cant wait to get back there asap!!!
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Balluba,
The hotel I said when I was in Fortaleza last june was a very good one, called Hotel Ideal Praia, about 1 block from the praia Meireles. Safe surrounding, close to the action, good clean and spacious suites for a reasonable fee. I paid around 80 reais. If interested, I can pm you pics of the suites I stayed there. I dont remember the name of the street not the complete address anymore but do a quick google search for Hotel Ideal Praia in Fortaleza and you will find it very easily.
God I miss Fortaleza and cant wait to get back there asap!!![/QUOTE]
Rua Barão de Aracati 145, Praia do Ideal
[url]www.praiahotel.com.br[/url]
ryjer
Hi there ,
I will be first time in Fortal in September and I have RTFF. There are some nice wrap-ups, but most are some years old. Could someone please confirm the following scenes:
For daytime action:
"Coco beach in Praia de Futuro , „Praia de Meireles is also good to pick up girls“, Prive Belissima"
Any other hints? More Prives?
Early evening :
"the night starts out on the street ....Ave Abolicao .... girls are "hanging out" on Abolicao from the point behind the Othon Hotel on westwards to Iracema, from about 8PM to midnightish"
Is this still the case?
Late evening :
"Forro Mambo , Café del Mar , Europa , Bikini , Zippy Bar , Swing Club , Armazen , Orbita , Pirata , Lounge Beach , Siqueira Club..... 10 pm onwards"
All bars still open? Which one is the best right now?
If I have met a girl from fortaleza over Internet and I want to stay there for 8 weeks nd have average budget, does anyone have any recomendation?
[QUOTE=Mer07]If I have met a girl from fortaleza over Internet and I want to stay there for 8 weeks nd have average budget, does anyone have any recomendation?[/QUOTE]
Recommendations about what?
[QUOTE=Sperto]Recommendations about what?[/QUOTE]
May be this he is asking about ??
Glad to help!
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_education[/url]
[QUOTE=Mer07]If I have met a girl from fortaleza over Internet and I want to stay there for 8 weeks nd have average budget, does anyone have any recomendation?[/QUOTE]Try [url]www.google.com.br[/url]
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Rua Barão de Aracati 145, Praia do Ideal
[url]www.praiahotel.com.br[/url]
ryjer[/QUOTE]
That links to a hotel off Guarapari in Espirito Santo not Fortaleza
[QUOTE=Mer07]If I have met a girl from fortaleza over Internet and I want to stay there for 8 weeks nd have average budget, does anyone have any recomendation?[/QUOTE]
Stay in a "pousada" near praia de Iracema for 20-30 Reais/day or rent a flat from one of the many agencies for about 1500 Reais/month.
Give us more specific details of what you need in order to get more specific answers.
[QUOTE=Bamboo Pete]Hi there ,
I will be first time in Fortal in September and I have RTFF. There are some nice wrap-ups, but most are some years old. Could someone please confirm the following scenes:
For daytime action:
"Coco beach in Praia de Futuro , „Praia de Meireles is also good to pick up girls“, Prive Belissima"
Any other hints? More Prives?
Early evening :
"the night starts out on the street ....Ave Abolicao .... girls are "hanging out" on Abolicao from the point behind the Othon Hotel on westwards to Iracema, from about 8PM to midnightish"
Is this still the case?
Late evening :
"Forro Mambo , Café del Mar , Europa , Bikini , Zippy Bar , Swing Club , Armazen , Orbita , Pirata , Lounge Beach , Siqueira Club..... 10 pm onwards"
All bars still open? Which one is the best right now?[/QUOTE]
More Prives?
There is another one at 3310 Rua Barao de Rio Branco 50m off Avenida Treze de Mayo just after a Habib's fast food. Used to be $R60/hr. Lower quality than Belissima and much further away.
Early evening :
Correct. Be aware of the many travesties close to Iracema. Also best place are the many bars opposite Mc Donald and around the night market at Meireles. Same girls later on move to Zippy Bar and after midnight to cafe del mar etc.
Late evening
Swing club was closed last January. Try AireAqua on Tuesdays in Varzota area where you can also find nice restaurants like Rei do Picanha for meat and Mil Mares for seafood. Try their seafood and sushi buffet every Thursday evening.
Best night club is Mucuripe on Fridays. Hardly any garota de programa though.
Also a good place to hang out almost everyday but especially during weekends is Dragao do Mar. Don't expect too many working girls there too.
Have fun
Hello fellows,
If someone is going to be in fortaleza next 08 to 30 of September I'll be glad to share hunting.
I've been in fortaleza several times last time this June.
After my experience my humble opinion is that better (and cheaper) is allways pay, if is the first night 100 reals is OK for all night. (Places is Zippy from 22h to 24h Europa after zippy, .
Sometimes you find a nice girls talking she's not GP. Ok after a good lay better give her a presentinho and if you whant to fuck her more there is no problem call her and she'll come for more then you can deal again, but if you think you're clever to save this 100 R$ the girls if you staing few days there they have all our curricula they exchange information about us almost if we pay or not to the girls she knows had layed with us.
The guys that don't pay after few days no girls are dealing with them. I saw this in Cuba, and also here in fortaleza and other places in brazil. They has the word for this guys is "cafusu" means he don't pay and after you has this label in cafe del mar of other mongering places you're lost. If you wish to make some joke tell to the GP that your friend is a cafusu and look her reaction.
One think I would need some information is how can you manage with No pros have someone experience in nopros
Places like supermarkets shopping internet, did someone has some tricks on that in fortaleza.
I've read someone about the clubbe do wiskie, I have never been there but I meet one of the girls who worked there she explained that was a place for brazilian VIPS very expensive 30min 200 R$ and the think is that there is this clubs in big citties all around brazil on each club you can meet a girl of each of the states of brazil also told me that was not easy to be contracted there (the girls needs a recomendation) I think for discretion purposes. Is like wines with his Origin Denomination (girl from manaus 1980) or a (Para 1981) quite sibarits this brazilian.
[QUOTE=El Greco]...............Best night club is Mucuripe on Fridays. Hardly any garota de programa though.
Also a good place to hang out almost everyday but especially during weekends is Dragao do Mar. Don't expect too many working girls there too.
Have fun[/QUOTE]Thanks , El Greco , this was exactly what I was looking for.
Another question (to all). Does anybody know how escort service in Fortal works. I saw some pretty chicks at garotanacional.com :
- Is the phone number directly to the girl or to an operator who speaks english?
- Is the price on the page per hour , or for the whole night?
- Are the girls doing full service (DFK , BBBJ , CIM , positions , multiple shots , etc.)?
Hi Trilero,
I will go in Fortaleza next 15 to 26 September and I will be glad to share.
For me will be first time and I will be alone.
I pleasure if it is possible be together for one one one drink and after.
[QUOTE=Trilero]Hello fellows,
If someone is going to be in fortaleza next 08 to 30 of September I'll be glad to share hunting.
I've been in fortaleza several times last time this June.
After my experience my humble opinion is that better (and cheaper) is allways pay, if is the first night 100 reals is OK for all night. (Places is Zippy from 22h to 24h Europa after zippy, .
Sometimes you find a nice girls talking she's not GP. Ok after a good lay better give her a presentinho and if you whant to fuck her more there is no problem call her and she'll come for more then you can deal again, but if you think you're clever to save this 100 R$ the girls if you staing few days there they have all our curricula they exchange information about us almost if we pay or not to the girls she knows had layed with us.
The guys that don't pay after few days no girls are dealing with them. I saw this in Cuba, and also here in fortaleza and other places in brazil. They has the word for this guys is "cafusu" means he don't pay and after you has this label in cafe del mar of other mongering places you're lost. If you wish to make some joke tell to the GP that your friend is a cafusu and look her reaction.
One think I would need some information is how can you manage with No pros have someone experience in nopros
Places like supermarkets shopping internet, did someone has some tricks on that in fortaleza.
I've read someone about the clubbe do wiskie, I have never been there but I meet one of the girls who worked there she explained that was a place for brazilian VIPS very expensive 30min 200 R$ and the think is that there is this clubs in big citties all around brazil on each club you can meet a girl of each of the states of brazil also told me that was not easy to be contracted there (the girls needs a recomendation) I think for discretion purposes. Is like wines with his Origin Denomination (girl from manaus 1980) or a (Para 1981) quite sibarits this brazilian.[/QUOTE]
Hi Nichio,
This would be great!
You have private messages blocked.
Send me a private message to meet us in Fortaleza and have a beer in the battlefield.
I am in Fortaleza right now. I have been here a few times before. What a great place. Everything Rio was 8 or 9 years ago. Luckily I speak some portugeuse, because nobody here seems to speak english. Been here 2 nights so far. Both times Cafe Del Mar. 120 all night. Europa was very quiet. It's all good. I have been all over Brazil. This place is the best. If anybody is here and wants to meet, lets do it.
[QUOTE=Racey]I am in Fortaleza right now. I have been here a few times before. What a great place. Everything Rio was 8 or 9 years ago. Luckily I speak some portugeuse, because nobody here seems to speak english. Been here 2 nights so far. Both times Cafe Del Mar. 120 all night. Europa was very quiet. It's all good. I have been all over Brazil. This place is the best. If anybody is here and wants to meet, lets do it.[/QUOTE]
You could say it is possible to envy You :-) I hope You still have a great time!
Dont forget to check out Armazem at Dragão do Mar tomorrow Wednesday (and Saturday). It should be packet with pro - non-pro and sweet girls just there to dance and flirt.
Short video from "The happiest street corner in Fortaleza".
[url]http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=gslkXVYkJ6I&NR=1[/url]
[QUOTE=Racey]I am in Fortaleza right now. I have been here a few times before. What a great place. Everything Rio was 8 or 9 years ago. Luckily I speak some portugeuse, because nobody here seems to speak english. Been here 2 nights so far. Both times Cafe Del Mar. 120 all night. Europa was very quiet. It's all good. I have been all over Brazil. This place is the best. If anybody is here and wants to meet, lets do it.[/QUOTE]
Was that 120 all nite from the garota in Cafe do Mar in Reaz or dollars? Great deal if it was in Reaz. (Not too bad in dollars either).
[QUOTE=Henry R]Was that 120 all nite from the garota in Cafe do Mar in Reaz or dollars? Great deal if it was in Reaz. (Not too bad in dollars either).[/QUOTE]
Sorry for interupt.
You can take them out for R$ 50 for the whole night, if You insists.
However, there are a group of extra popular girls that require R$ 200 for the night. Several of those have been workeing in Europe, in the periods. They can act a bit spoiled :-) But they can usually easily negotiated down to the half, if there are not as many customers.
Personally, I often prefer a girl with a good smile, charm and naturalness, rather than those often a little cold cats.
B
You are ight, there are some who want 200rs, Most start at 150 and negotiate downwards, settling for 100rs or 120rs. You will definitely get for less, but not the best. I find it best not to make the price such a big deal at that level. Why loose a good clean smile and naturalness over a few reais. Every thing is easy going here, so I find it easier to go along with things. I did meet one who had been everywhere, she liked Help in Rio the best, acted spoilt, I left and found much better for 120rs. Help is much more business like that here. This is way more relaxed. I love it.
I think its from Coco or Croco Beach at Praia do Futuro, Fortaleza this July.
This cutie was with her "namorado", but smiled and eye flirted with most boys near her, as soon as he turned his head away :-)
What a beautiful body !!!
I know many visitors in Fortaleza just see the beaches in the city like those at Beira Mar, and Praia do Futuro. But there are so much more in both directions.
Remember that many other beaches are just from 20 - 40 minutes taxi ride from the city, and have often more peace and more great nature. The price level for food and drink are usually much lower than in the city. Fresh cooked fish and other seafruits are served, simple but with excellent tastes. Also its possible to flirt with the local girls, as are not so used to see strangers with blue eyes :-)
Going "south" I recommend the Beach Park, in Porto das Dunas (25 minutes), here are the Brazilian upper class situated. A little stiff, but great girls to look at. Further south is Prainha (35 minutes), a small town with a great beach. Many kiosks with food and drinks. Relatively calm during the week, but the beach are stuffed at Saturday and Sundays. Lots of sweet girls to chat with. Its possible to hire a buggy with a driver, to explore the dunes. Just great!
If You rent a car, and drive further down the coast, against "the famous hippie city" Canoa Quebrada, the beaches is there like beads on a string. I can guarantee that you will be celebrity for a day on many of this nice places :-)
Enclose just a few tourist photos to increase Your motivation.
B.
Many of You regulars in knows that it is not so uncommon that waitresses working in tourists-restaurants often visits nightclubs like Cafe Del Mar after their shift is finish.
Their primary job is often to attract male visitors to eat and drink at the restaurants, then they get to know these mens and are tempted to earn a little extra by taking a night shift :-)
This girl has been working at Restaurant La Marea in Iracema for many years. I wonder, is there someone as have a story with her, to share ?
Just a deep diving into a hd i found a few photos not posted earlier. From cell-phone, not so good quality.
2 girls, the dark one I have seen working also this year, the "blond" I have not seen since 2006.
Photos from first floor of Cafe del Mar - Praia Iracema. In photo 3 You can see Europa and Bikini Bar in the background.
Both great girls with nice attitude - my opinion.
B
Cumbuco is a small fishermen village which is located about 30 kilometers north of Fortaleza. It is a perfect place to bring your girlfriend from Fortaleza, to chill down a few days, and enjoy the good life :-)
The easiest way to get to Cumbuco from Fortaleza is to take a taxi (appr. 60-70R$), but there are also smaller buses. The price here is around R$ 6 p. person.
The area around Cumbuco consists of beautiful sand dunes, forests and lagoons. Rent a buggy with or without a driver, it is a wild experience !
The beach itself is light windy and are very nice for kiting. If You like to try, there are kite-schools. There are kiosks selling drinks and food at the beach. If you will stay there, you can drop into pousadas and hotels. Its a very friendly place, you feel perfectly safe in the streets, even at night.
Of course, also here are local girls to chat with, but also a lot of blue eyed scandinavian girls, if this is your taste. At night there are a few good restaurants and a disco and some bars. In the week-ends a lot of young people are coming from Fortaleza to party.
Here, a few photos from the beach.
B
[QUOTE=El Greco]More Prives?
There is another one at 3310 Rua Barao de Rio Branco 50m off Avenida Treze de Mayo just after a Habib's fast food. Used to be $R60/hr. Lower quality than Belissima and much further away.
Early evening :
Correct. Be aware of the many travesties close to Iracema. Also best place are the many bars opposite Mc Donald and around the night market at Meireles. Same girls later on move to Zippy Bar and after midnight to cafe del mar etc.[/QUOTE]I tried several afternoon/early evening sessions. One time from Prive Bellisima, one time from a massagem club in centro and one time I hooked up with a chica on Praia do Futuro. All were maybe 6-7 on the scale, and the performance was more average.
Had two real pearls (8-9) from Cafe del Mar, and also the performance was much better. But I must confess, that these sessions through the whole night do kill me. I'm more a daytime monger, and Cafe del Mar action does not start before 01:00 am, let's say you get a chica by 02:00 am, and action until 04:00 am, gosh. I'm not the youngest anymore. I prefer to combine beach and mongering, and these late night actions do not give me enough time for beach.
Btw, each sessions were 2 hours, between 60 and 80 R$
Hello Everybody,
I've been in fortaleza this September,
I have seen that GP are getting hungriest every time.
Few time ago they did not have any problem to share with you few days like a girlfriend with only some help for your part of course
Gilrs are moving from one state to another and I find her too professional. For me it was very difficult to find a GP not with a look of a not GP. They have the look the most prostitutes in our countries. Just that they are cheaper.
I looked for no pro girls look and really many days I did not see any.
Actually his modus operandi is completely diferent. They ask you 150 and bargaining 100 R$ (allways) some clever italians wait until is 4-5 in the at night nearly to close for making a good deal some of them go for 50 R$ (better than nothing)
If you are over 60 or more, many of the girls will not go out with you! If you are handsome and in your 30's you can choose the girl but you'll pay as the old man.
The thing that angry me is that actually many of them after sex (one or two times) with you they go for a shower and put her cloths and bye bye. If it's not late he go for a second gringo at the cafe del mar.
Actually girls there are going directly for the money not boyfriend of travel only they will be intersted if she see you are full of money and can gets more easily. Many of them are mixed with drugs. Some gringos make deals with GP and drugs. They don't know in with mess they can be involved if something is running bad with the girl.
I thing is not a good place for hunting if you are staing more than 3 weeks there. (allways same faces)
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Regarding Garota Nacional:
You speak directly to the girl; some girls claim to speak English, Spanish, Italian, etc, but don't count on that (ask the staff at the hotel to call and negotiate for you)
Prices and services depend on negotiation. Usually, the price is for a two hour session, and DFK, BBBJ and multiple positions are included; some use the term Liberal (Yes, No) to signify wether anal is included. You should always confirm what is included Before she arrives at your place.
There is a consensus among Brazilians that GarotaNacional girls are overpriced; always negotiate. Girls asking R$ 300 usually settle for something like R$ 150 or R$ 200 plus taxi. Some girls are known to work at Belissima for R$ 90 and then ask R$ 300 at GN. Some (most) girls are known to have photos heavily retouched by Photoshop.
[QUOTE=Bamboo Pete]
Another question (to all). Does anybody know how escort service in Fortal works. I saw some pretty chicks at garotanacional.com :
- Is the phone number directly to the girl or to an operator who speaks english?
- Is the price on the page per hour , or for the whole night?
- Are the girls doing full service (DFK , BBBJ , CIM , positions , multiple shots , etc.)?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Balluba]Just a deep diving into a hd i found a few photos not posted earlier. From cell-phone, not so good quality.
2 girls, the dark one I have seen working also this year, the "blond" I have not seen since 2006.
Photos from first floor of Cafe del Mar - Praia Iracema. In photo 3 You can see Europa and Bikini Bar in the background.
Both great girls with nice attitude - my opinion.
B[/QUOTE]The blond girl is Gina and I was with her in May and November last year.
The first night I was with her in November she just returned from a 3 month stay in Norway that morning. She just had to go to the disco and party and have fun.
Yes, she has a true girl friend attitude, I do miss her.
[QUOTE=Deux Deux]The blond girl is Gina and I was with her in May and November last year.
The first night I was with her in November she just returned from a 3 month stay in Norway that morning. She just had to go to the disco and party and have fun.
Yes, she has a true girl friend attitude, I do miss her.[/QUOTE]
You are absolutely right about her, she is a "good girl" and also now I remember her name; Gina :-)
Anyone with some fresh or older photos from Fortaleza ? Not ? Unbelievable with all those male tourists in the Iracema-area every night. Please post :-)
[QUOTE=Balluba]Anyone with some fresh or older photos from Fortaleza ? Not ? Unbelievable with all those male tourists in the Iracema-area every night. Please post :-)[/QUOTE]
Actually it's strange. Fortaleza is propably the second most visited mongerdestination in Brazil and so few reports/photos in this section. Maybe it's because the majority of the mongers are Italians? They might not speak English that well and therefore skipping ISG or maybe they have a forum on their own?
It's good we have Balluba keeping us updated in the Fortaleza section and posting pictures of lovely nordestinas.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Actually it's strange. Fortaleza is propably the second most visited mongerdestination in Brazil and so few reports/photos in this section. Maybe it's because the majority of the mongers are Italians? They might not speak English that well and therefore skipping ISG or maybe they have a forum on their own?[/quote]Hallo, I m italian I must confess I'm not very experienced writing in English; anyway I went to fortaleza sevaral times, if you have some question, let me know and I'll try to answer. According my opinion fortaleza is good option for semi-pro girls and you can enjoy a lot. My advice is avoiding to go every day in cafe del mar mambo bikini bar and try other place not so infamous.
[QUOTE=BJfans]Hallo, I m italian I must confess I'm not very experienced writing in English; anyway I went to fortaleza sevaral times, if you have some question, let me know and I'll try to answer. According my opinion fortaleza is good option for semi-pro girls and you can enjoy a lot. My advice is avoiding to go every day in cafe del mar mambo bikini bar and try other place not so infamous.[/QUOTE]
Hi BJfans. Thank you. I don't have any particular questions. It's just good with updating reports about Fortaleza.
The action in Iracema is wellknown, but it should be interesting to hear more about all the anonymous casas de massagem in Fortaleza. I've been to a couple of them several years ago, but they have propably closed or moved by now.
Hi to everyone!
I read you for long time. I wil be in fortaleza next week. It will be my first time. Bjfans I'm italian too. Can you suggest me other place less famous (I already know mucuripe, armazen, pirata. Etc.)
For you try to know normal girl it's difficult or with gentle mode and a little good physical appearance will be possible?
A last question but you have used some massage centers?
Saluti!
I'm going to be in Fortaleza for most of November. I've been to Rio a couple of times, but Fortaleza will be new. If anyone will be there and wants to get together for a some beers, laughs and info exchange, send a PM.
After a major increase in violence and serious robberies (including knives and other guns) in the tourist areas along the Beira Mar and inward in Praia Iracema has lead to that the city government is now taking hold.
With the exception of the area at the fish market, (which is close to the favela in the western end of the Beira Mar and robberies have been reported), I have always considered the strip to be safe during the daytime and evenings, even if pocket theft may occur.
From now and into the high season police are establishing posts every 600 meters and also patrol the 3 to 4 kilometer long Av. Beira-Mar with horses and car patrols.
In this way, they wish to increase security for the many tourists who frequent this area.
B
It's good if the police do a cleanup in the Beira Mar and Iracema area.
They could take a big truck and fill it with all the scum hanging around McDonalds and drive them far away out to a small village in the sertão.
Another truck has to be filled with the pick-pocketscum hanging in the ho-crossing in Iracema. These bastards are shameless. Every night the same guys comes back and pick-pocket the gringos. Just next to the police station.
It's a kind of fun watching how these kids work as some of them are quite clever. Like when they wait for a taxi to stop. The gringo in the backseat takes up his wallet to pay the driver. The kid pass and quickly snaps his wallet through the open window and runs away.
Remember that the piers are not always safe places to namorar. There is one very long stone pier just in the beginning of the Iracema area, close to where they play football. That pier is quite popular for namorar as it's very dark and deserted out there.
Once I was halfway out on that pier having sex with a GF. A guy with a gun went out on the pier and robbed all the couples on the far end of the pier. When the robber returned towards the beach I noticed that something wasn't right. I actually asked the robber politely, when he passed by, if he was interested in my money as well? He wasn't that polite as his only answer was "Cala boca, gringo!". Me and my GF was the only couple he didn't rob. :D
[QUOTE=Balluba]
From now and into the high season police are establishing posts every 600 meters and also patrol the 3 to 4 kilometer long Av. Beira-Mar with horses and car patrols.
In this way, they wish to increase security for the many tourists who frequent this area.
B[/QUOTE]
Police held a parade on Beira Mar, last time I was there, in order to show to the public their new Toyota cars.
There was a serious girl fight once and two of those cars arrived within three minutes. They also have cameras to watch their backs.
Gents, look at my post #7102 in the Rio de Janeiro section.
I say no more.
Salute yourself the next time you raise your glass - you choosed the RIGHT destination!
Happy hunting / Ken Apples.
I'm thinking of going down for the holidays, xmas and new years, and I'm wondering if this a good time. Will there be plenty of chicas around? Will I have a hard time getting a room? Will there be much night life?
[QUOTE=Afroski]I'm thinking of going down for the holidays, xmas and new years, and I'm wondering if this a good time. Will there be plenty of chicas around? Will I have a hard time getting a room? Will there be much night life?[/QUOTE]
Yes, maybe and yes.
[QUOTE=Afroski]I'm thinking of going down for the holidays, xmas and new years, and I'm wondering if this a good time. Will there be plenty of chicas around? Will I have a hard time getting a room? Will there be much night life?[/QUOTE]
Rooms and flights will be expensive because of Brasilians taking their holidays at that season. You need to plan and reserve ahead.
Chicas plenty although better by mid of January onwards.
Many of them go to their villages for Xmass.
Are there any issues for a Black man mongering in Fortaleza?
[QUOTE=Afroski]Are there any issues for a Black man mongering in Fortaleza?[/QUOTE]
I think you'll be the sensation for all the GP's. :)
Most mongers are white males. Italians, Dutch and Scandinavians.
I can't imagine that you'll have any problems at all.
[QUOTE=Afroski]Are there any issues for a Black man mongering in Fortaleza?[/QUOTE]
I have met a few black Americans in Fortaleza, and they are ultra popular among the girls :-)
I remember especially one fellow I talked a lot with, he was about 210 centimeters tall and had a look like a baseball star. He always had a tail of 5-6 very nice garotas, wherever he walked ;-)
Good to know we are popular somewhere out there,LOL. Unlike some dudes in the Colombia section want to make us believe.
[QUOTE=Balluba]I have met a few black Americans in Fortaleza, and they are ultra popular among the girls :-)
I remember especially one fellow I talked a lot with, he was about 210 centimeters tall and had a look like a baseball star. He always had a tail of 5-6 very nice garotas, wherever he walked ;-)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. This will help me make up my mind if going or not.
I'll be in Sosua this weekend but I'm looking at 2009 for Brazil.
Gentlemen,
It seems that Fortaleza is a great place for good weather and fun. I am planning to spend my 2 months vacation there.
I need your valuable expertise. Would it be possible to rent a room in hotel or condo for 15-20 USD per day for 2 months?. Preferably not far from the beach and action. And how safe are those places? – I mean would it be safe to leave your valuables in the room, or would it be better to rent a safe box somewhere? Also do they have rules on night visitors ?
Your advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanx in advance
[QUOTE=Afroski]Are there any issues for a Black man mongering in Fortaleza?[/QUOTE]
On the contrary !!!
The rest of us will have an issue trying to find any leftovers. LOL
Has anybody been to Siqueira Clube on Sunday night on CE-095.
Last time I was there I was the only tourist and the non pro action was quite good, especially if you can dance Forro. Salsa will make it even if it might feel / look weird to the Brazilian.
[QUOTE=Papuas]Gentlemen,
It seems that Fortaleza is a great place for good weather and fun. I am planning to spend my 2 months vacation there.
I need your valuable expertise. Would it be possible to rent a room in hotel or condo for 15-20 USD per day for 2 months?.[/QUOTE]
An apartment or an apart-hotel is a much better choice if you gonna stay for 2 months.
About the "good weather". That's not for certain. Might be or might not be. I had quite a lot of rain during my stays in Fortaleza (usually during January-February).
[QUOTE=Papuas]Gentlemen,
It seems that Fortaleza is a great place for good weather and fun. I am planning to spend my 2 months vacation there.
[/QUOTE]
Tell us when in order to get a better answer. Prices may vary a lot.
As Sperto told you an apartment in an apart-hotel, they call them FLATS, would be the best choice with no security issues. You might only need to register the girl.
Thanks for the answers,
I plan to come over on December 25th, but in case apart-hotel rates are too high at that time, I can probably come over month later.
Appreciate yo help
[QUOTE=Papuas]Thanks for the answers,
I plan to come over on December 25th, but in case apart-hotel rates are too high at that time, I can probably come over month later.
Appreciate yo help[/QUOTE]
Week from December 23rd until after new years day is the most difficult of them all. Lots of Brasilians there.
Expect prices of both airfares from Sao or Rio and hotel accommodations at the highest level.
You've better make arrangements soon and see if they fit your budget.
Otherwise start looking after January 5th or better the 11th.
One option is to book your first night at the Ibis hotel and look around for an apartment. Last February it was around 70 Reais. Many agencies one block behind Ibis on Monsenhor Tambosa st.
That is because many apartments might look nice from the pictures but not in reality. Not as bad as Rio but the possibility is there always.
Best places to stay are Praia do Iracema or on Avenida Beira Mar or one or two blocks behind.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/home/index.shtml[/url]
El Greco,
Thanks for info!
[QUOTE=El Greco]Week from December 23rd until after new years day is the most difficult of them all. Lots of Brasilians there.
Expect prices of both airfares from Sao or Rio and hotel accommodations at the highest level.
You've better make arrangements soon and see if they fit your budget.
Otherwise start looking after January 5th or better the 11th.
One option is to book your first night at the Ibis hotel and look around for an apartment. Last February it was around 70 Reais. Many agencies one block behind Ibis on Monsenhor Tambosa st.
That is because many apartments might look nice from the pictures but not in reality. Not as bad as Rio but the possibility is there always.
Best places to stay are Praia do Iracema or on Avenida Beira Mar or one or two blocks behind.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/home/index.shtml[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, it looks like i will try after Carnival.
[QUOTE=El Greco][url]http://www.accorhotels.com/gb/home/index.shtml[/url][/QUOTE]
Not to reduce the value of your info El Greco, but the Accor brasilan site is easier to navigate for a search within Brasil.
[url]http://www.accorhotels.com.br/home/pt/[/url]
All. Any updates on "Guest Friendly" hotels? I have stayed several times at the Casa Blanca, and prior to that, the Luzeiros. Any new recommendations would be great. I am looking to visit again in January.
Dev
I arrived in Fortaleza yesterday. In the early evening (7-10 PM) Garotas de Programa used to sit in the outdoor cafes across the street from McDonalds in the Mireille section. They would stay there until it was time to go to the Iracema bars. I did not see any there yesterday. Someone said they moved somewhere else, in or close to Iracema, but did not know where. Does anyone know where they hang out now during the early evening?
I would recommend Hotel Américas:
[url]http://www.hotelamericas.com.br/[/url]
Last time I stayed there they were definitely girl friendly. That was Sept 07, they were charging ~80 reais. Most girls also know the hotel from the inside. The style is colonial, with old dark wooden furniture, but everything is ok. Prefer this one over Casa Blanca. The rooms are spacier, but cost less. There was no internet as is in Casa Blanca.
Pj
Went back a few times this week to the cafes across the street from McDonalds. Saw a few GDPs at nite there but only a fraction what it used to be. Also saw one or two in the afternoon there. Nothing like before.
[QUOTE=Henry R]Went back a few times this week to the cafes across the street from McDonalds. Saw a few GDPs at nite there but only a fraction what it used to be. Also saw one or two in the afternoon there. Nothing like before.[/QUOTE]
I dont know Henry, but this could be a result of the police work, reported here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=802561#post802561[/url]
To bad, it is very charming with all those eye candy approaching You when having a coffee at that nice Dutch (orange) barracca there.
[QUOTE=Balluba]I dont know Henry, but this could be a result of the police work, reported here:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=802561#post802561[/url]
To bad, it is very charming with all those eye candy approaching You when having a coffee at that nice Dutch (orange) barracca there.[/QUOTE]
In addition to a decrease in GDPs across from McDonalds, there is an even further decrease in GDP activity in the beaches daytime. This is my third trip to Fortaleza and Brazil. There used to be lots of GDPs smiling at tourists at Coco and Croco beaches at Praia de Futuro during the day. I went back this time to both beaches and saw 2 GDPs at Coco and none at Croco, in a total of 3 beach visits. (There is still supposed to be plenty of GDP action at Croco on Thursday nites).
Most people I talked to who worked at the beach, and taxi drivers, would not admit that GDPs were no longer there. Maybe they didn´t want this info to spread and hurt tourism. But one man at Croco who served drinks told me that GDPs are now prohibited at the beaches, except on Sundays. I saw none at Croco when I went back there last Sunday afternoon.
Too bad, now there is no daytime fun in Fortaleza outside of the houses. The beach had been lots of fun, now not so much. I don´t know if this crackdown is due to a crime problem at the beaches during the day, caused by GDPs. Or if the woman mayor is just trying to crack down for moral reasons.
Crackdowns at the beaches in the daytime and at the cafes across from McDonalds in the early evening have cut down on the fun in Fortaleza. All that is left is the late nite bar scene in Iracema. I may not return to Fort if this does not change.
This 19 years old girl I met in 2008 in Fortaleza. I met her at the Beira Mar where she worked selling t-shirts etc.
I chatted with here some evenings and one day she asked me in what hotel I stayed. I took her to my hotel and there the fun started. First she wanted to fuck without condom but I had somehow the chance to put one on.
[QUOTE=Brasil Fun]This 19 years old girl I met in 2008 in Fortaleza. I met her at the Beira Mar where she worked selling t-shirts etc.
I chatted with here some evenings and one day she asked me in what hotel I stayed. I took her to my hotel and there the fun started. First she wanted to fuck without condom but I had somehow the chance to put one on.[/QUOTE]
Hi Fun - What hotel did you stay in? I see it is GF, is there a charge for having a guest? I am always looking for a different hotel to try on my next visit.
Obrigado
Dev
[QUOTE=Devileyes]Hi Fun - What hotel did you stay in? I see it is GF, is there a charge for having a guest? I am always looking for a different hotel to try on my next visit.
Obrigado,
Dev[/QUOTE]I would go to Pousada Aquarius, it is located on a good location 1 street after the Beira Mar. In 2007 I paid 65R$ for a 2 p bedroom. It is GF.
There are lot of other little pousadas in the neighborhood. Most of them don't charge extra for visitors.
Found some photos of Natalia from cellphone, very dark, not so good quality. I have lighten them up a little for better view. Some of the background are blurred of privacy reasons.
By now this autumn I expect her to be a mother of a newborn baby, I hope that she will be a good mother, and not go clubbing as much as before.
B
I upload a couple more of the same issue. A little blowing too :-)
B
[QUOTE=Brasil Fun]I would go to Pousada Aquarius, it is located on a good location 1 street after the Beira Mar. In 2007 I paid 65R$ for a 2 p bedroom. It is GF.
There are lot of other little pousadas in the neighborhood. Most of them don't charge extra for visitors.[/QUOTE]
I agree on that. I stayed many there many times (before getting an apto).
Aquarius have a nice breakfast too.
[QUOTE=Balluba]I upload a couple more of the same issue. A little blowing too :-)B[/QUOTE]
OK, Toblerone and apples that's what you feed your girls.
I never tried apples.
[QUOTE=Balluba]I upload a couple more of the same issue. A little blowing too :-)
B[/QUOTE]
Excellent job, Balluba. I think she is beautiful. (And I don't say this easily ...)
[QUOTE=Euro100]Excellent job, Balluba. I think she is beautiful. (And I don't say this easily ...)[/QUOTE]I also know this girl Balluba. She is always in Armazem and on bars at the Beira Mar. I never fucked her because she was what very irritation. I actually more liked her girlfriend (or sister) who is more quiet (also never fucked her) anyway I hope her boyfriend like her postings here. Anybody have her orkut?
[QUOTE=Brasil Fun]I also know this girl Balluba. She is always in Armazem and on bars at the Beira Mar. I never fucked her because she was what very irritation. I actually more liked her girlfriend (or sister) who is more quiet (also never fucked her) anyway I hope her boyfriend like her postings here. Anybody have her orkut?[/QUOTE]
This is (one of) her sisters, they use to live together in a flat behind Beira Mar. I dont have her Orkut. Natalia isnt at orkut more, or she have a new one.
Natalia is actually a very funny girl, and have a dirty fantasy. She likes to play role-play :-) Very - very dirty !
[QUOTE=Sperto]OK, Toblerone and apples that's what you feed your girls.
I never tried apples.[/QUOTE]
Actually it is laranja. They are green in nordeste, remember :-)
[QUOTE=Balluba]Actually it is laranja. They are green in nordeste, remember :-)[/QUOTE]No I think it was a girlfriend and not her sister. The girlfriend is smaller, less morena. Anyway they are always together. I had once a nice chat with this girl.
This girl from Prive Belissima was not the best. In the club she agreed to everything, but in my hotelroom she turned out to be very passive and only wanted to do missionary style. When I said I would call and complain to the club, she gave in and performed both BBBJ and a-levels. Cost R$ 130 with taxi 3 times.
MrCool
Hi mongers,
Someone know if Hotel Oasis Atlantico is girl friendly?
There is a overprice?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mr Cool]This girl from Prive Belissima was not the best. In the club she agreed to everything, but in my hotelroom she turned out to be very passive and only wanted to do missionary style. When I said I would call and complain to the club, she gave in and performed both BBBJ and a-levels. Cost R$ 130 with taxi 3 times.
MrCool[/QUOTE]
I took a friend of mine there yesterday for his first time and she was his choice.
She was a total waste in the bed according to him. AVOID HER
Prices are $R 70 in house for one hour and R90 for two hours take out. They tried to charged him R90 for in house but they backed up when he called me for help. They charge R90 if you go there by taxi. R20 being taxi driver's commision. They might ask a couple more for condoms.
[QUOTE=Ranocchio]Hi mongers,
Someone know if Hotel Oasis Atlantico is girl friendly?
There is a overprice?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Ranocchio you better can go for a pousada like Aquarius. There are many pousadas one street behind the Beira Mar (Main beach boulevard)
my buddy and i are planning to go to fortaleza from 2/24/09 - 03/03/09 and we need to rent an apartment with hi-speed internet access. does anyone have any suggestions on who to contact?
thanks
[QUOTE=Brasil Fun]Ranocchio you better can go for a pousada like Aquarius. There are many pousadas one street behind the Beira Mar (Main beach boulevard)[/QUOTE]
Any recent news for the Hotel IBIS? I read a note a year or two ago it was GF, any recent experience out there? Coould be a good alternative to Casa Blanca - I travel for business so I need to be in a decent hotel.
Thx
Dev
Anyone has some recent news from Fortaleza?
I consider spending there 2 or 3 weeks in February or March.
Reading this forum I'm not so sure is Fortaleza still good place for mongering?
Is it easy to find nice, cute GDP with GFE attitude. Are there still plenty of them?
Should I rather look for semi-pro?
Where are the best places for mongers now during daytime, evening?
Any help needed.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Escobar2000]Anyone has some recent news from Fortaleza?
I consider spending there 2 or 3 weeks in February or March.
Reading this forum I'm not so sure is Fortaleza still good place for mongering?
Is it easy to find nice, cute GDP with GFE attitude. Are there still plenty of them?
Should I rather look for semi-pro?
Where are the best places for mongers now during daytime, evening?
Any help needed.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi Esco - All is yes. I was there for 2 weeks recently and found the scene was much the same. The daytime is still possible, but at night it is still the same ground zero. Read earlier posts. A local recomended the Prive Belissima, I did not get a chance to review this, but will on my next trip. I hope to be there in March also - looking for other GF hotels.....
Dev
[QUOTE=Henry R]Was that 120 all nite from the garota in Cafe do Mar in Reaz or dollars? Great deal if it was in Reaz. (Not too bad in dollars either).[/QUOTE]I dont want to go on about this but, but get real 120Rs is to much never mind dollars ive been to fortaleza 3 times in 08 last visit in Oct and you can have GDP's for anywhere between 50 to 100Rs max and on 2 ocasions i picked up semi pros for free, never paid was with both of them for 2 days each and no money changed hands just paid for drinks, food hung out on the beach, made them feel special and had a laugh and my poutugese is terible if non exsitant.
Anyway my point being is PEOPLE dont ruin this place its innocent and i hear that theres an american airline going to fly direct that means it will be ruined in another 2 years. Ha ha, relax i dont have a problem with americans its just theres to many of you!!
Yes, definitly, this must have been in Brazilian Reais. 100 R$ should be your price for a TLN. Too sad I haven't been there for more than a year...
Pj
[QUOTE=Devileyes]Hi Esco. All is yes. I was there for 2 weeks recently and found the scene was much the same. The daytime is still possible, but at night it is still the same ground zero. Read earlier posts. A local recomended the Prive Belissima, I did not get a chance to review this, but will on my next trip. I hope to be there in March also. Looking for other GF hotels.
Dev[/QUOTE]Thanks!
Which hotel you stayed last time?
From what I read 50-100 R$ is a going price for. For a "short time" or whole night?
Don't know about 50 R$, but the maximum I ever payed for a whole night (in the north!) was 100 R$ plus 20 R$ for a taxi. And she didn't leave before 11 AM.
[QUOTE=Escobar2000]Thanks!
Which hotel you stayed last time?
From what I read 50-100 R$ is a going price for. For a "short time" or whole night?[/QUOTE]
I was stuck at the Luzeiros - nice place, not GF. As for the price, I am told locals can get a whole night for about 80R, I speak decent Portuguese and I am in for about 100R. if she is really good, negotiate for multiple nights - you can pay alot less that way....beats the purpose of mongering though.....
Dev
[QUOTE=Devileyes]Any recent news for the Hotel IBIS? I read a note a year or two ago it was GF, any recent experience out there? Coould be a good alternative to Casa Blanca - I travel for business so I need to be in a decent hotel.
Thx
Dev[/QUOTE]
In most of the Accor chain of hotels breakfast is extra. Price for two people per night is the same. Book a room for two and nobody can bother you,
There are plenty of GPs in Iracema. The quality is very much varied.
Some stunners, a lot of average girls and a whole bunch of chubby squared-headed women without necks.
Asking price is normally R$ 100-150. Unless they are very spoilt by Italians or Dutch mongers they can quite easily be bargained down to R$ 50-70. Actually my last GP Yesterday was bargained down to R$ 40. :)
The price and time depends on your bargaining skills, if the girls is a hardcore pro or not and of course on the chemistry between you and the girl.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Some stunners, a lot of average girls and a whole bunch of chubby squared-headed women without necks.
[/QUOTE]
Haha, I remember those square-head types, - Not my taste, but I'm sure some western-shavedhaircut-feminist-lesbians will find them "butchy/tom-boy" attractive :)
By the way, how is the non pro scene these days? Easy gettin chicks in the "normal" disco's in centro?
Cheers / Ken Apples
[QUOTE=Sperto]There are plenty of GPs in Iracema. The quality is very much varied.
Asking price is normally R$ 100-150. Unless they are very spoilt by Italians or Dutch mongers they can quite easily be bargained down to R$ 50-70. Actually my last GP Yesterday was bargained down to R$ 40. :)[/QUOTE]
Based on what you paid, what was the time frame? Just curious.
ryjer
[QUOTE=El Greco]In most of the Accor chain of hotels breakfast is extra. Price for two people per night is the same. Book a room for two and nobody can bother you,[/QUOTE]
So you need to book as a double? How is the hotel overall? Compared to the Casa Blanca? Rooms, services, etc.... I have a work trip in March and I am looking for a different hotel.
Thanks
Dev
Don't forget, us older guys have to pay more than younger guys, especially if TLN. There are only a few obnoxious posters, and don't believe everything they say.
[QUOTE=Henry R]Don't forget, us older guys have to pay more than younger guys, especially if TLN. There are only a few obnoxious posters, and don't believe everything they say.[/QUOTE]
Not sure about this - I have heard more than once, many providers perfer older guys - less intense (rough) that many of the "boys". I usually pay the going rate often mentioned here - and I am not a young man....not even close.
Dev
Just heard from my local contact in Fortaleza - he tells me the IBIS is not GF anymore. Any other info on this would be great.
Dev
[QUOTE=Devileyes]... and I am not a young man....not even close.
Dev[/QUOTE]
Yes, for all I know you have passed your teenie days, but you are closer to "YOUNG" than to "OLD". I have heard many GDPs say "he's old and fat, he will pay more"
I will go in Fortaleza next 8 to 26 March and I will be glad to share.
For me will be first time and I will be alone and I'm italian.
I pleasure if it is possible be together for one one one drink and after.
@ Fabkey: Lucky man you are!
Hello, the next mounth my flight will stop in Fortaleza, Recife and Sao Luis. In one town I like to spend some free days (around one week), If you know the three towns could you tell me what is more pleasant and less expensive for fucking and having fun? I like girlfriend experience and sempi-pro. Some suggestions please?
I thank you!
[QUOTE=Mr Cool]This girl from Prive Belissima was not the best. In the club she agreed to everything, but in my hotelroom she turned out to be very passive and only wanted to do missionary style. When I said I would call and complain to the club, she gave in and performed both BBBJ and a-levels. Cost R$ 130 with taxi 3 times.
MrCool[/QUOTE]
Can you give me the address of this club?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Balluba]Found some photos of Natalia from cellphone, very dark, not so good quality. I have lighten them up a little for better view. Some of the background are blurred of privacy reasons.
By now this autumn I expect her to be a mother of a newborn baby, I hope that she will be a good mother, and not go clubbing as much as before.
B[/QUOTE]
I will be in Forteleza for the 1st time this April; cna you give me some advice on club to goto?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]I will be in Forteleza for the 1st time this April; cna you give me some advice on club to goto?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Print this and give a reliable taxi driver - you will have no problems....
Rua: Vilente Leite
No 2020 - Belissima
Dev
[QUOTE=Henry R]In addition to a decrease in GDPs across from McDonalds, there is an even further decrease in GDP activity in the beaches daytime. This is my third trip to Fortaleza and Brazil. There used to be lots of GDPs smiling at tourists at Coco and Croco beaches at Praia de Futuro during the day. I went back this time to both beaches and saw 2 GDPs at Coco and none at Croco, in a total of 3 beach visits. (There is still supposed to be plenty of GDP action at Croco on Thursday nites).
Most people I talked to who worked at the beach, and taxi drivers, would not admit that GDPs were no longer there. Maybe they didn´t want this info to spread and hurt tourism. But one man at Croco who served drinks told me that GDPs are now prohibited at the beaches, except on Sundays. I saw none at Croco when I went back there last Sunday afternoon.
Too bad, now there is no daytime fun in Fortaleza outside of the houses. The beach had been lots of fun, now not so much. I don´t know if this crackdown is due to a crime problem at the beaches during the day, caused by GDPs. Or if the woman mayor is just trying to crack down for moral reasons.
Crackdowns at the beaches in the daytime and at the cafes across from McDonalds in the early evening have cut down on the fun in Fortaleza. All that is left is the late nite bar scene in Iracema. I may not return to Fort if this does not change.[/QUOTE]
Henry, I checked out this with a mate just arrived back from Fortaleza. According to him, this was no longer a problem, plenty of girls hanging around on the praias of Beira Mar in daytime. Also many to look in and from the barracas early evening. Praia do Futuro, I am not updated, probably like before. I prefer the dutch owned Boa Vida, because of the good service and reasonable prices. Always girls, but not as obvious like Croco Beach. Link:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLumUZDultI&feature=channel_page[/url]
Writing from Fortaleza right now.
I can confirm that these days, due to low season and some rain, that GDP scene is a little low.
At night it usually rains an hour or so, which decreases number of people around Cafè Do Mar & Praia de Iracema.
Still a good place if you have your regular(s) girl(s).
[QUOTE=Ken_Apples]By the way, how is the non pro scene these days? Easy gettin chicks in the "normal" disco's in centro?[/QUOTE]
The non-pro scene is excellent in Fortaleza.
[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Based on what you paid, what was the time frame? Just curious.[/QUOTE]
TLN.
[QUOTE=Balluba]Henry, I checked out this with a mate just arrived back from Fortaleza. According to him, this was no longer a problem, plenty of girls hanging around on the praias of Beira Mar in daytime. Also many to look in and from the barracas early evening. Praia do Futuro, I am not updated, probably like before. I prefer the dutch owned Boa Vida, because of the good service and reasonable prices. Always girls, but not as obvious like Croco Beach. Link:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLumUZDultI&feature=channel_page[/url][/QUOTE]
Balluba:
Assuming the situation is back to normal: Can you find out from your friend what was going on in Fortaleza last November? Why were there almost no programa girls at the barracas across from McDonalds in Mireilles in the early evening, as there used to be? Why there were almost none at Coco and Croco beach and several other Praia de Futuro beaches I scouted daytime (I am not talking about nitetime). Why one of the drink servers at Croco beach told me that programa girls were prohibited from being at the Praia de futuro beaches daytime? (Please remember I am talking about Praia de Futuro, I don't know about Beira Mar).
I am not making this up. A friend of mine, who sometimes posts here, was with me and he saw the same thing. There was no rain, just warm sunny weather. So, why the crackdown? What happened in November?
[QUOTE=Devileyes]Print this and give a reliable taxi driver - you will have no problems....
Rua: Vilente Leite
No 2020 - Belissima
Dev[/QUOTE]
Belissima is a who-re house with a bar not a club. Expect to pay 20 more Reais if you go by taxi. 90 iso 70 for an hour of sex gymnastics.
For club atmosphere must go to Zipies after 22:00 and nearby Cafe del Mar after midnight at Praia de Iracema.
Just follow the girls leaving Zippy bar and will find the club area around the corner of tourist police office.
Hello Gents,
Planning my next trip this month. This time I plan to stay 5 nights in Fortaleza, then 7 nights in Rio. I've been to Rio 5 times. This will be my first trip to Fortaleza. I read about 7 pages of the Fortaleza forum already.
Anyone on ground lately?
How were the bars and clubs? Were they full of good lookers or ???
What about the number and quality of girls?
Are the rates still around R$120-150?
Not long ago I completed a 2 week trip to Rio and I thought the girls in front of the bars (meia pataca, terraco atlantico, balcony), were slim pickings.
The good looking ones were asking $300 for TLN and not budging much.
Others wanted R$200 for an hour or two. Saw many going home alone.
I found a few hot garotas inside Help. However, on 5 visits inside, I only took two out of there because the rest were asking crazy $$$.
I mean crazy. I won't spend more than R$250 TLN (and that only happened twice). All others garotas taken from Help have been R$150-200. The last trip was different. So I spent more time at the Termas and made a few
calls to Karla Models and Scort Show (R$120 for 2 hours). Ond day I ordered 2 girls, just to change it up a bit and play ;-))
That was a good time. Took a thick morena and a thin blonde (R$240 - 2hrs).
Looking forward to meeting less hardcore girls and getting reasonable rates further North. Any intel will be much appreciated.
Thanks, PL99
How far are the below places from Casa Blanca hotel?
Are they just a few (3-5) blocks or will I need a taxi?
Cafe del Mar
Forro Mambo
Europa
Zipi Bar
Heineken Cafe
Thanks, PL
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]How far are the below places from Casa Blanca hotel?
Are they just a few (3-5) blocks or will I need a taxi?
Cafe del Mar
Forro Mambo
Europa
Zipi Bar
Heineken Cafe
Thanks, PL[/QUOTE]
All of them except Zipi are next to each other.
Zipi is 2 minutes walk away from the others.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]How far are the below places from Casa Blanca hotel?
Are they just a few (3-5) blocks or will I need a taxi?
Thanks, PL[/QUOTE]
Please take a taxi from the clubs back to the hotel at night. There are dark alleys between Iracema and Casa Blanca, and the area is not considered safe. For You, its just a few reals. There are a lot of drug crime in the streets around the club area. Tourists do not see much of it, but the newspapers write a lot about drug-related violence and other crime in these near by streets.
Take the taxi from Avenida Alm. Barosso (opposite the police station) as its cheaper for you and as some of the taxi drivers just outside the clubs are greedy pigs.
B
[QUOTE=Balluba]Please take a taxi from the clubs back to the hotel at night. There are dark alleys between Iracema and Casa Blanca, and the area is not considered safe. For You, its just a few reals. There are a lot of drug crime in the streets around the club area. Tourists do not see much of it, but the newspapers write a lot about drug-related violence and other crime in these near by streets.
Take the taxi from Avenida Alm. Barosso (opposite the police station) as its cheaper for you and as some of the taxi drivers just outside the clubs are greedy pigs.
B[/QUOTE]
Agreed - it should be no more than 5 to 7 reals. One driver told me 20 and I told him he was nuts and tossed him a 5.... if you feel better about it - negotiate before he starts to drive.
At night that walk back is bad and getting worse....not worth it - take a taxi.
Dev
Here's a "little secret" not everyone knows - fortunately. I would like to recommend a small bar - restaurant suitable for many purposes. Its the Pinguem Bar, as is placed two blocks north of Holiday Inn, just above the Ibis hotel (Av. Monsenhor Tabosa / Rua Barão de Aracati).
The bar is mostly frequented by the Scandinavians, and have a Scandinavian menu. You can meet everything from resident europeans, Scandinavian girls on vacation, to families with children. The place is perfect if you travel alone, it is easy to get in touch. Many people go here for the "vor-spiel", or a quiet evening with your loved selected namorada.
Among staff and guests are beautiful girls with a gleam in the eye. You can not find the hardcore girls here, only sometimes non-pro. But not all is ... and sometimes its just girls who like to talk to foreigners. Here you must use your senses and flirting skills.
A greater challenge, but then the prize is usually far better for you :-)
B.
PS I have borrowed those two photos.
This place rocks. Just follow the advice posted on the board. Read it in full before you arrive. Many thanks to Sperto and Balluba who know this place inside out.
Cafr do Mar is a building site so Forro Mambo opposite (entrance $15R from 11pm to 6am) is right now the best place. The girls are all there by 1am. I don't see the point in going to Europa or Zippi Bar bacause all these places have the same girls, overpriced drinks and/ or cover charge.
Forro Mambo is a Mini.Help. Downstairs excellent live Forro bands upstairs 2 disco rooms Italian revival open every night. Downside for me. The place is very smoky. You really need Portuguese here the girls only really know Italian but they can all count in English! Ha
I have taken a gostosa out every time for $100 R. Make sure you specify minimum 2 hours and 2 pops, walk with a smile if they want $20R taxi money many of the girls live in appartaments near Casa Blanca. Be careful when you exit yes.
There are vagabundos about do what Balluba says. Cross the sreet and get a $5R taxi ride home put your money/credit card in your shoe.
Nice to see all these updates on Fortaleza. I've never been but you guys sure make it sound attractive.
Here's a vid of some great music and nice boobs that I think are from Fortaleza (or on checking, naybe it's Salvador).
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7vpartSlfs[/url]
[QUOTE=Driller]This place rocks. [/QUOTE] :
Driller : Can You check out how are the situation at the barracas at Praia do Futuro and Beira Mar right now ? Have there been a crack down or are the girls allowed to work there in the daytime ?
Christopherd: I received "This video is not available in your country." To bad, this country is worse than China.
[QUOTE=Driller]This place rocks. Just follow the advice posted on the board. Read it in full before you arrive. Many thanks to Sperto and Balluba who know this place inside out.
Cafr do Mar is a building site so Forro Mambo opposite (entrance $15R from 11pm to 6am) is right now the best place. The girls are all there by 1am. I don't see the point in going to Europa or Zippi Bar bacause all these places have the same girls, overpriced drinks and/ or cover charge.
Forro Mambo is a Mini.Help. Downstairs excellent live Forro bands upstairs 2 disco rooms Italian revival open every night. Downside for me. The place is very smoky. You really need Portuguese here the girls only really know Italian but they can all count in English! Ha
I have taken a gostosa out every time for $100 R. Make sure you specify minimum 2 hours and 2 pops, walk with a smile if they want $20R taxi money many of the girls live in appartaments near Casa Blanca. Be careful when you exit yes.
There are vagabundos about do what Balluba says. Cross the sreet and get a $5R taxi ride home put your money/credit card in your shoe.[/QUOTE]
Not to start with a lot of questions but is the Fortaleza scene similar to Rio?
[QUOTE=Driller]This place rocks. Just follow the advice posted on the board. Read it in full before you arrive. Many thanks to Sperto and Balluba who know this place inside out.
Cafr do Mar is a building site so Forro Mambo opposite (entrance $15R from 11pm to 6am) is right now the best place. The girls are all there by 1am. I don't see the point in going to Europa or Zippi Bar bacause all these places have the same girls, overpriced drinks and/ or cover charge.
Forro Mambo is a Mini.Help. Downstairs excellent live Forro bands upstairs 2 disco rooms Italian revival open every night. Downside for me. The place is very smoky. You really need Portuguese here the girls only really know Italian but they can all count in English! Ha
I have taken a gostosa out every time for $100 R. Make sure you specify minimum 2 hours and 2 pops, walk with a smile if they want $20R taxi money many of the girls live in appartaments near Casa Blanca. Be careful when you exit yes.
There are vagabundos about do what Balluba says. Cross the sreet and get a $5R taxi ride home put your money/credit card in your shoe.[/QUOTE]
Not sure what you mean by Cafe do Mar is a building site. Do you mean it is temporarily closed? When I was in Fortaleza last November I went to Cafe do Mar (directly across from Europa) one Saturday nite and thought they had the best looking girls in Fortaleza, if not all of Brazil. The place was too crowded, but great looking babes. Too bad if they closed.
Guys,
Trust me when your standing on the outside terrace of Forro Mambo overlooking the mainstreet you can see that Cafe Do Mar doesent have a roof! All the Cafe Do Mar girls are either at Forro Mambo or Europa because both are now open until 6am, they all leave their handbags downstairs at Forro Mambo the girls don't pay but both clubs now charge 15R entry or minimum consumption for over-priced drinks.
There are pickpockets/drug dealers about so get in/ont of your cab opposite the tourist police station so they don't get a chance to hassle you (like Help). Ballula yes you can meet GDPs in the barraca on Bierra Mar opposite McD just order a suco sit and wait. They will come to you (after 4pm). Best place on Praia Do Futuro is Boa Vida on Sundays from 4pm great live Forro Electrica band plays all the hits. I would say you can meet all the girls there plus their ugly frog and toad cousins, this place has great atmosphere it rocks.
[QUOTE=Driller]Guys,
Trust me when your standing on the outside terrace of Forro Mambo overlooking the mainstreet you can see that Cafe Do Mar doesent have a roof! All the Cafe Do Mar girls are either at Forro Mambo or Europa because both are now open until 6am, they all leave their handbags downstairs at Forro Mambo the girls don't pay but both clubs now charge 15R entry or minimum consumption for over-priced drinks.
There are pickpockets/drug dealers about so get in/ont of your cab opposite the tourist police station so they don't get a chance to hassle you (like Help). Ballula yes you can meet GDPs in the barraca on Bierra Mar opposite McD just order a suco sit and wait. They will come to you (after 4pm). Best place on Praia Do Futuro is Boa Vida on Sundays from 4pm great live Forro Electrica band plays all the hits. I would say you can meet all the girls there plus their ugly frog and toad cousins, this place has great atmosphere it rocks.[/QUOTE]
Thank You for the updated info, Driller.
I believe that Cafe del Mar and former Bikini Bar (1.st floor of Europa) have the same ownership nowadays. Maybe they will build a brigde crossing the street between those two clubs :-)) Just joking, hopefully this is a much-needed renovation performed in the low season.
Christoherd,
The music link you posted is remixed Axe Bahia from Salvador. There is this type of music (a hybrid of axe/forro) in Fortaleza called Swingado seems to be aimed at 17-25yr olds.
Forro Mambo has bands playing Forro Elecrtico- the style of Forro popularised here by bands such as Avioes De Forro and Forro do Muido. In Rio its the same type of forro called Forrozao, you can find it at Feira De Sao Cristovao at weekends on the large stage either end.
If you can dance Forro and speak Portuguese, I found that Fortaleza has some great non.pro options. If members are interested I can post them.
Guys,
I am in Fortaleza at the moment, 5th time in a row! I am looking for a great looking girl I was with last time, very pretty, very sweet, great smile and beautiful body, usually she goes to Boa Vida on Sundays after 4pm and to the 'disco' (as they call it, basically one of the bars on the strip, bikini, cafe de mar etc.) on Fridays and Saturdays, she also does one-off programas in Cumbuco, Taiaba, Tabuba.
Her name is Daniela and she usually hangs around with a Tatiane.
I added a few pics for your pleasure
Anyone with stories to share on her or with info where to find her, please POST soon!
[QUOTE=Investigador]Guys,
I am in Fortaleza at the moment, 5th time in a row! I am looking for a great looking girl I was with last time, very pretty, very sweet, great smile and beautiful body, usually she goes to Boa Vida on Sundays after 4pm and to the 'disco' (as they call it, basically one of the bars on the strip, bikini, cafe de mar etc.) on Fridays and Saturdays, she also does one-off programas in Cumbuco, Taiaba, Tabuba.
Her name is Daniela and she usually hangs around with a Tatiane...[/QUOTE]
Daniela! Ahhh! I know her. She likes to give ATM and greek... ;)
[QUOTE=Sperto]Daniela! Ahhh! I know her. She likes to give ATM and greek... ;)[/QUOTE]Hi Sperto,
Are you sure it is her? did you see the pictures I posted of her?when did you see her last time and where?do you know where to find her now?
Obrigado!
[QUOTE=Investigador]Hi Sperto,
Are you sure it is her? did you see the pictures I posted of her?when did you see her last time and where?do you know where to find her now?
Obrigado![/QUOTE]
Investigador,
I was just kidding you. You must realize that there must be dozens of ho's working in Iracema using the name Daniela.
BTW you didn't post any pics.
After spending a few days in Fortaleza I remember reading here about the shapes of some of the girls. It wa funny seeing the ones with the round faces and short necks. However, there are plenty of others to chhose from. Blondes, brunettes, round bundas, small bundas, etc. I will drop a report in the next few days of the adventures here. So far good action and TLN prices from R$100 - 150.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]After spending a few days in Fortaleza I remember reading here about the shapes of some of the girls. It wa funny seeing the ones with the round faces and short necks. However, there are plenty of others to chhose from. Blondes, brunettes, round bundas, small bundas, etc. I will drop a report in the next few days of the adventures here. So far good action and TLN prices from R$100 - 150.[/QUOTE]
I see you made it back down there, I meant to get in touch with you before you left....I am looking foward to your report about this part of Brazil....
[QUOTE=Chris H]I see you made it back down there, I meant to get in touch with you before you left....I am looking foward to your report about this part of Brazil....[/QUOTE]
Whats up buddy.
I will also call you when I get back home.
[QUOTE=Investigador]Hi Sperto,
Are you sure it is her? did you see the pictures I posted of her?when did you see her last time and where?do you know where to find her now?
Obrigado![/QUOTE]Excuse me investigador. Where did you post that pics?
Bye!
My first time in Brasil. I am in Fortaleza as of tonight.
Thanks for all the reports I feel prepared!
Anyone around?
Hope to see some of you guys here!
Chris
You lucky man.... Do enjoy yourself!
Richy, I'm considering a trip in September so please do report on best places to stay (safe and chica friendly, good location) and chica hangouts and prices. Would appreciate it ....
Have fun,
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Richy, I'm considering a trip in September so please do report on best places to stay (safe and chica friendly, good location) and chica hangouts and prices. Would appreciate it ....
Have fun,[/QUOTE]
Uzinuzin, try checking out one more page in the Fortaleza section and you'll find the info you need.
Wonderful trip to Fortaleza. Got in late due to plane issues. Checked into the Casa Blanca hotel about 10.30pm. (Let me put a plug in for the staff at that hotel. Very friendly, helpful, and professional. Would definitely recommend). Showered, then off to Zipi Bar around 11.30pm. A few good lookers but knew there had to be better. After an hour or so it was off to Forro Mambo. There is an entrance fee (I think it was R15 which is added upon exit) – they give you a card upon entering where they mark your drinks. Girl enter for free ( I asked). The place is pretty nice. There is a bar with live music (forro) on the ground floor. DJ is spinning top hits upstairs above the street. And there is a third bar with somewhat different music across the way which opens later in the evening as the place gets more crowded.
Many girls to choose from. All were easy going and friendly. Nothing like some of the trash you find at Help in Rio. I danced and talked to a few girls while looking for my take out. I spotted a tall babe (Paloma). She’d be the one for my first night. She was about 5’9”, 125 - 130 lbs, and had some nice curves. She did not have a Rio bunda, but she had a nice ass and a great handful of tits. She was dancing with her sister when I spotted her. I called her over for conversation and then danced with her. Great dancer and sexy as hell to me. After dancing, we made some quick negotiations. I was surprised when she quoted a high price. I think she said R300. I was educated the going rate was R100 – R150 TLN. I told her R150 for todo la noite mainly because I wanted this one and I wanted to get the BS over with right away so we can just have a fun night. She was not convinced right
away but I told her that’s a GOOD rate and we left it at that. We danced and drank and partied like old friends. Later it was time to go and I made sure she agreed to my price. She agreed. I also confirmed we’d have sex tonight and again before she leaves tomorrow. This way we won’t have issues the next day. (That happened three times in Rio on my first 2 trips – the girls wanted to be paid and leave without sex after we got up the next day. Of course since they changed the program I changed the price each time. Lesson learned to always confirm next day action prior to them leaving). A quick R5 taxi ride to the hotel which is only about 5 blocks away. Hit the showers, and down to business. Excellent bbbj! A bit shy and like a young girl on the boob sucking. Decent sex, but she seemed timid. Overall a very nice 25yo garota. Sex was better the next afternoon when we got up. So was the bj.
Afterwards she gave me her phone number. Before she left, I asked her to take me to get a sim card for my phone. Got it at the gas station and then I dropped her off by taxi. Good first night.
Second Day – went to change some cash and stroll the beaches. Some good looking babes out and about, but only a few GdPs on the beach (near McDonald’s). Later its back to the hotel. Went to eat and then called a cab to take me to Terma Belissima around 8pm. Costs R70 for the girl and R20 for the room for 1 hr. or You can take the girl out for R130 for 2 hrs. It’s a relatively small place. It has like a double living room with couches near the entrance where some of the girls watch tv. To the right there is a larger recreation room with plastic tables and chairs. There you can have drinks and talk to the girls. There are about 5 bedrooms situated around the second living room and more rooms upstairs. Some decent looking girls, but nothing like a Rio terma. Of the 20 girls available, I saw one 9, maybe three 8s, and the rest go down from there. I had some beer and talked to a local for awhile as we flirted with the girls. Later went to talk to this young 19yo spinner with a really nice ass. Ended up taking her up for the hour. She was in training and I became her trainer for the hour. Lacking in the bj department but willing to learn. Sex was pretty damn good, mainly because she could bounce it and her snatch was tight.
Cleaned up and it was back to Zipi for a few, then off to Forro Mambo. Many more this night (it was a Friday). Danced and talked to lots this night. So many to choose from and all being so damn nice. Kept looking and finally chose a good looking blonde with much more ass and tits. We agreed on R100 and off to the hotel. Man this girl can suck some dick. Went at it like it was hers. Then to help her along I brought out a vibrator and tickled her clit until she couldn’t take it any more. Went at it in multiple positions. While in doggie, as I was nearing the finish, I asked her where I can come.
She replied where do you want? I suggested either her ass, her breasts or her face and lips (smiling while I said this). She wanted it in her mouth. That was it! A few more strokes and I ripped off the condom and put it in her mouth. She finished me off and swallowed it all. What a trooper!
It was now about 7am. She was ready. I took some pictures of her first. She called for a ride. I gave her R100 and went to sleep.
Day 3 (Saturday) - got up late. Feeling a bit under the weather today. Its been raining for the last 2 days. Maybe the change of weather got me or it was from kissing sexy ass Paloma from day one. Anyway, I went to get some canja de frango (chicken soup with rice and carrots). Then to the farmacia for some sore throat drops and tylenol. Rested, then off to Zipi. Spotted a really cute young morena. Brown skin, brown eyes, dark curly hair. Just really sexy and cute. I went over and took a chair near where she was standing. I spoke to her and let her know I was interested as held her close to me. I continued to keep my eyes open as she leaned against my lap.
She wanted to go to the other bars around the way. But since I was tired, I said no. I told her I was feeling tired and just wanted to go back to the hotel with her. We negotiated for R130 TLN. She tried to convince me to go to the bars with her and her friend since her friend did not have anyone. After going back and forth a bit I suggested she can go with her friend alone and come to my hotel in 1 hour or we can leave now. She asked me if we can
give her friend a lift home first and then go to the hotel. I asked her why her friend doesn’t go to the other bars alone to get a guy. She told me she was too shy to go alone. Man, some of these girls are indeed shy. So we left, dropped her friend off and then back to the hotel. Good action, multiple positions and I actually slept well with her. Next day more action then photos. Offered her breakfast in the hotel but she declined. I gave her the R130 while she gave me her phone number and said she’d like to come back tonight.
Day 4 and 5 will have to wait for another day. PL99
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]Day 3 (Saturday) - got up late. Feeling a bit under the weather today. Its been raining for the last 2 days. Maybe the change of weather got me or it was from kissing sexy ass Paloma from day one. Anyway, I went to get some canja de frango (chicken soup with rice and carrots). Then to the farmacia for some sore throat drops and tylenol. Rested, then off to Zipi. Spotted a really cute young morena. Brown skin, brown eyes, dark curly hair. Just really sexy and cute. I went over and took a chair near where she was standing. I spoke to her and let her know I was interested as held her close to me. I continued to keep my eyes open as she leaned against my lap.
She wanted to go to the other bars around the way. But since I was tired, I said no. I told her I was feeling tired and just wanted to go back to the hotel with her. We negotiated for R130 TLN. She tried to convince me to go to the bars with her and her friend since her friend did not have anyone. After going back and forth a bit I suggested she can go with her friend alone and come to my hotel in 1 hour or we can leave now. She asked me if we can
give her friend a lift home first and then go to the hotel. I asked her why her friend doesn’t go to the other bars alone to get a guy. She told me she was too shy to go alone. Man, some of these girls are indeed shy. So we left, dropped her friend off and then back to the hotel. Good action, multiple positions and I actually slept well with her. Next day more action then photos. Offered her breakfast in the hotel but she declined. I gave her the R130 while she gave me her phone number and said she’d like to come back tonight.
Day 4 and 5 will have to wait for another day. PL99[/QUOTE]
Where r the pics???
Great report Pipe, you seem to be getting good TLN prices, do you speak fluent Portuguese ? I wonder how much the prices increase if not speak the lingo... (do the girls speak any English)
I speak some Spanish but no Portuguese, the only time I was in Brazil it was two days in Iguazu waterfalls (near Argentine border). No one spoke English there, and for some reason they thought I can understand them (because they thought I was from Argentina - apparantly they do understand each other!?). I'm not that good of a Spanish speaker and found it very hard to understand them.
Anyway, hope to learn some words by Sep. to help me out...
[QUOTE=Chris H]Where r the pics???[/QUOTE]
They're coming soon (you greedy $^%&#%) ;-)
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Great report Pipe, you seem to be getting good TLN prices, do you speak fluent Portuguese ? I wonder how much the prices increase if not speak the lingo... (do the girls speak any English)
I speak some Spanish but no Portuguese, the only time I was in Brazil it was two days in Iguazu waterfalls (near Argentine border). No one spoke English there, and for some reason they thought I can understand them (because they thought I was from Argentina - apparantly they do understand each other!?). I'm not that good of a Spanish speaker and found it very hard to understand them.
Anyway, hope to learn some words by Sep. to help me out...[/QUOTE]
Uzinuzin, glad you liked the report.
No, I don't speak fluent Porto, but I speak enough to get my point across. I also brush up using a small travel guide before every trip. I'm almost fluent in Italian (don't use it much anymore), and my Spanish has always been pretty good. Coupled with my experience in those two languages, I find Porto pretty easy. With some practice you will too.
Yes, some of the girls do speak English there.
Those are pretty standard prices for Fortaleza. You can get most girls TLN for R$100-150 no problem. Shouldn't matter if you speak the language or not. Now since you are educated and know the going rate, you can use it to your advantage. Even if you get in a pinch with the language all you have to do is write the number down.
ie, R100 or R150 and the time 1hr or 2 hrs or todo la noite ............ you get the picture.
For your next trip to Brazil get a pocket phrase book (you can buy one or borrow it from the library) and read it before the trip. Take it with you and you will do fine.
Day 4 – spent more time at the beach looking for a decent GdP. Nothing worth taking. It was not a good place to hunt. Great beach and lots of tourists and all, but hardly any GdPs.
Back to the hotel to rest. Arranged for a massage at the hotel. It cost a whopping R40 for an hour. The hotel actually had a girl there who gives massages. After the good massage, more chicken soup and plenty of water.
On my way out to eat, the guy at the desk told me the girl from the night before call about 7 times. I was like whoa. Whats up with her? I know I treated her good but .......
Later went to the bars, but I was too tired to take one. So I went home. I decided to walk back since it was only a 5 block walk and I was not toting a girl. On the way back two guys were selling drugs. One was cool and did not push it. The other dude was a real ass. This guy was pushing MJ, coke and who knows what else. Right in front of the police station too! I told them no thanks and kept walking. The second one decided he was going my way. We spoke briefly and he said that was the street he takes home. I turned back and the dude turned too. I told him to leave me in peace in Porto. We exchanged more words, not nice this time. The guy was pissing me off now. I though I was going to have to whoop his ass. He relented and I crossed the street and took a cab instead of walking the next 4 blocks. Did I mention this was right in fron of the police station!?!
Day 5 - slept in and got some needed rest. Later that day I called a girl from Garota National. She quoted me R300 for 2 hrs - I suggested R200 - she accepted. I asked her if she likes to kiss, and give BJs, and multiple positions - she said yes to all. We agreed to meet in the lobby in 1.5 hours. I thought about the negotiation for a few minutes. Knowing the going prices in Fortaleza, I thought I should have got the price even lower. So I went to the desk and asked George to call and canx for me. While he was speaking to her, I told him to tell her I'm canx because the rate was too high. She said she can lower the price. I told him to tell her that most girls there only ask for R150. The girl agreed to R150 + R20 for taxi. Agreed! Thats what I'm talking about. I went to grab a bite and back to the hotel. I walk in and George tells me she is there and motions towards the lobby chairs. I was like OH YEAH - this chick extremely pretty. I said her name as I walked to her, she acknowledged and stood up. Now I was even more happy because her body was smokin hottt! She was about 21 years old, 5' 2", 110-115lbs, nice natural c cups, a small waist, and a nice round ass. I got a wink from George as I head to the elevator. We go up and she starts to undress right away. I say slow down baby we have time. So she sits there in her panties while I drink a beer and caress her delicious breasts. The whole time I'm thinking to myself - Man I want to fuck the shit out of her. But I also want to go slow and take my time too. Even though I was under the weather, seeing her get undressed brought me at full attention. I put the beer down and taste her nips. I kiss them all over. Then I try to kiss her - uh oh - she only likes to kiss with her lips, no DFK. Small red flag goes up. I think no big deal, this girl is hot, lets have fun. So I rub her all over and take it all in. Then I lay back so she can blow me. She reaches for a condom. I'm like WTF. I thought I covered all of this shit with the first phone call. 2nd red flag. I recall I only asked her if she likes to kiss and give BJs. I am not sure now if I asked sim camisina/preservativo. I mention this to her and try to convince her to blow me without it. She prefers with, so I say ok, but you told me it will be good.
She starts and it is good - a nice surprise. She sucked for sometime too. Strong lips on that one. Next she rides me, then reverse CG (because i wanted to see that beautiful ass), then missionary, one leg up, and finally doggie. Now I have to stop because I want to prolong the fun. I turn her over so I can see her face and we go at it some more. I finish and relax. All good. Right? While I relax, she gets up to take a shower - 3rd flag. No worries maybe she just want to clean up for round 2. She comes out and starts to get dressed. I was like WTF are you doing. I asked her why she is putting on her clothes. She tells me she is leaving because the hour is over. I remind her we have 2 hours. She says no 1. I say ok, you can leave for R100. I get up, get dressed and call the desk. I had George talk to her. They talk/argue for a minute. She hangs up. I called back and asked him what her problem is and he tells me she thought the program was only for 1 hour. He sided with me and told her we agreed to R150 for 2 hours not 1 hour. Remember he spoke to her when I asked him to call and canx then renegociate the price. Anyway, long story short, I gave her R120 and walked her ass downstairs. The whole time I'm thinking, damn that was good, too bad she is leaving. I'm not even angry. So I get her to the lobby and they talk briefly. She sits in the lobby to wait for her cab. He tells me its no problem and if she makes trouble the porter will toss her ass out. I love the customer service at this hotel. I go back up to shower. Then back to check it out downstairs. Its all good. I speak to George for a few minutes. He tell me my GdP had called someone else when I went up and this other girl was screaming at him on the phone. This other girl on the phone slipped up and said to him, "when I talked to you I agreed to R150 for 1 hour + R20 for taxi". George was like wait a minute - if I was talking to you earlier about the price then who is the girl here? Busted! Oh so you sent another girl for the program huh!? He hung up on her.
Well, well, well, lookihere - I got the old switchwheroo and it actually worked out in my favor. Ain't that something.
I gave him a tip for a job well done. He was grateful. I went up to get some sleep. After all, I had a plane to catch to Rio tomorrow. And I'd be meeting
with my "girlfriend" from Brasilia for 4 nights. She was due to arrive in Rio at midnight. I knew I'd need my rest for her.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]They're coming soon (you greedy $^%&#%) ;-)[/QUOTE]
LOL....u know I am an anxious man....if I see some good talent, I may have to stop in Fortaleza on my way to Rio in July....
Thanks for the report.
Great reports PL99 ! Thanks a lot.
Can You verify about Cefe del Mar has reopened ? (across the street of Forro Mambo)
B
[QUOTE=Balluba]Great reports PL99 ! Thanks a lot.
Can You verify about Cefe del Mar has reopened ? (across the street of Forro Mambo)
B[/QUOTE]
Yes. It was open when I was there a few weeks ago.
PL99
Was it a fee to bring a guest back to your room or did you double book?
Thanks
Hy guys. I will be in fortaleza in the end of may.
I wish to ask you a suggestion:
In the site garota nacional. Who is the best?
Thank you
Pipe,
I am assuming the Casa Blanca is completely garota friendly, no issues?
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]PL99
Was it a fee to bring a guest back to your room or did you double book?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
There is no fee either way.
Although, I think I did book my room for 2 guests. But even if you book the smaller room for 1, there is no fee at all.
My preference - whenever I book a hotel in Brazil, I always make the reservation for 2 because the cost is the same.
[QUOTE=Katreed]Pipe,
I am assuming the Casa Blanca is completely garota friendly, no issues?[/QUOTE]
That is correct! They are girl friendly.
Furthermore, if there is an issue with a girl, the guys at the desk are there to assist. George, Washington, and Arnold are all great guys and they speak English.
On my last day, I had one of them call and assist me in negotiating a better price for a girl. I had ordered a girl 10 minutes prior and got her down from R300 - R200. Then I though about the other 4 girls I had for R150, 130, 120 and 100 (from the bars). So I went to the desk and had one of the guys call and canx for me - explaining to her that her rate was too expensive for Fortaleza. She then went down to R150 plus R20 for taxi. The girl who actually showed up was not the girl I ordered, but man she was smokin'.
A fine ass 21 year old with a killer body. I'm talking her face, tits, flat stomach, and her shapely ass. I gave her an all around score of 9.
Have fun and drop a report afterwards. PL99
[QUOTE=Jena10]Hy guys. I will be in fortaleza in the end of may.
I wish to ask you a suggestion:
In the site garota nacional. Who is the best?
Thank you[/QUOTE]
I ordered a girl from there on my last day. See my previous reply just below.
The one I got was bait and switch (but what a nice f-in switch). So I lucked out. If you order a girl, wait for her in the lobby. Then if the girl that shows up is not the one you ordered, you can send her butt back. Or if she is the one you ordered but she is not to your liking (because of the wonderful photoshop they do on the photos), send her back.
Also, they are way OVERPRICED. You can easily get a very pretty girl from the bars for R100-150 (did I say easy!!!) That is correct.
Another option - take a cab to Belissima.
Do a girl there for R90 1hr or take her back to your Hotel for R130 2 hrs.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]There is no fee either way.
Although, I think I did book my room for 2 guests. But even if you book the smaller room for 1, there is no fee at all.
My preference - whenever I book a hotel in Brazil, I always make the reservation for 2 because the cost is the same.[/QUOTE]
When You bring 2 guests ( 2 girls) You will have to pay extra room price, R$80 when I was there last time. And agreed, the staff is very helpful.
PL99; we await/demand(!) those promised photos :-)
[QUOTE=Balluba]When You bring 2 guests ( 2 girls) You will have to pay extra room price, R$80 when I was there last time. And agreed, the staff is very helpful.
PL99; we await/demand(!) those promised photos :-)[/QUOTE]
Oh no you didn't demand something from me Mr Safado!
Now you will have to wait longer.
I'm still travelling. I am back in the Land of Bunda - Rio.
Damn airlines keep giving me more miles which allows me to return often ;-))
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]
Another option - take a cab to Belissima.
Do a girl there for R90 1hr or take her back to your Hotel for R130 2 hrs.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]
This is a great option during the slower daytime in Fortaleza. I went there, and to another Casa (sorry, didn't get the name because the cab drive took me there) and both where winners. Espcially the second one.
One thing to what for thought is the beer can scam. Me and my friend where there drinking beer and leaving the empties on the table so we could settle up at the end. WELL, the slick waitress tried to bring over some EMPTY beer cans with full ones and sit them on the table.
We didn't catch this until we where back at the hotel!
Our beach guide gave us a tip on how to avoid this: when you a done with a beer, crush the can and leave it on the table!! Then you will be able to check all "new" ones brought to the table.
One other observation. I have since gone to Rio after hitting Fort. I will say now that Fortaleza is better for Girls/Vaction. Meaning, in Fortaleza you I felt I was more in a "vaction" and I had girls there to F*ck> In Rio, it's like you in any other "big" city but the woman are better looking. Yes, there is more to and do in Rio, but I liked the Big fish in a small pond feel of Fortaleza; vs. Big Fish in Big Pond that is Rio.
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]I went there, and to another Casa (sorry, didn't get the name because the cab drive took me there) and both where winners. Espcially the second one.[/QUOTE]'
Thank you for sharing info on the beer cans... very valuable.
A shame that you didn't get any address to the second casa. Street name, phone number or a name on the casa? Prices?
I find it strange and very annoying when someone have the opportunity to contribute with valuable informations and don't succeed.
Specially when this someone is so eager to get detailed information from others.
Not that it really matters for me, but it pisses me of.
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Please tell me where I can find this![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]... did you happen to catch the name of the casa?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Can you give me walking direction to this place from the Metro?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]Leandro Martins 5 - is this the address?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sperto]'
Thank you for sharing info on the beer cans... very valuable.
A shame that you didn't get any address to the second casa. Street name, phone number or a name on the casa? Prices?
I find it strange and very annoying when someone have the opportunity to contribute with valuable informations and don't succeed.
Specially when this someone is so eager to get detailed information from others.
Not that it really matters for me, but it pisses me of.[/QUOTE]
Sperto:
The best I can do is give you the steps that I took to get there. Since you know Fortaleza, you know where the McDonalds on the main strip is. Well, there are serveral cab drivers that hang out there. There is one tall black cab drive with really bad teeth - you can't miss him. He took me there. Just ask him to take you to another casa other than 2020 and that should do it.
Prices: Beers - $3r; programmas $90r 1 hour.
I just finished reading this whole thread (from page 1) ! Yes, it took a while but researching a new place is half the fun. I had a look at Forta/Natal couple of years ago but the mention of police clampdown put me off, but now Brazil is calling and I'm on my way no matter what.... My Sep. Fortaleza/Rio trip had to be changed to Oct. (damn work issues). Before I go ahead and type my CC number for the flight, I need some help;
1- I read somewhere that Oct is also Brazilian break time and loads come from the south to visit nordeste, is that true? It's still law season, right? Anything about mid-Oct I should consider...
2- As it turns out the ticket price for the whole trip to Natal/Rio and back is exactly the same as Forta/Rio (to the penny !? funny). So I had a quick read of Natal thread too, but I think Forta is a better option - specially for GFE/TLN that I prefer and more GDP availability. Anyone thinks otherwise...
3- Should I worry about police harassment, I read they pick on single guys even on the beach (Italians more than often), I'm not Italian, but look just like one, tall, dark, handsome (LOL, ya, right !?)... I think for ID checks I just carry an authorized copy and hope for the best...
On a side note, just one observation, throughout this particular thread guys mention "non-pro", I think they mean semi-pro. Normal, descent girls from any country won't go with some stranger (sex tourist twice their age) to their hotel/flat, after a couple of hours of meeting them, not even speak the same language, suck their dick and have sex !? You can bet, she does that more than you think. And please do pay up, semi-pros sometime don't ask but you should compensate for sure, somehow (present/taxi/etc.) - this way they can rely on something later and don't become hardcore (discuss price and hours first and so on).
Don't get me wrong, if you managed to date a girl and got to her pants after maybe two, three times wine and dining that's your non-pro in my book. (Not to ruin anyone's fantasy though, who cares anyway.....)
Hello, everyone
I have discovered this forum only after my first trip to Fortaleza
However now when I read I know the places everyone is talking about
I am portuguese so I don't have any trouble when speaking to the girls (I have noticed some bad understanding of some issues in older posts but I will help from now on)
For the reports I read my next stay will be at Casa Blanca, and I have a question for you guys, someone mention the massage girl at the hotel, anyone knows if she only gives normal massage or if she also gives private massage in the room?
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]
On a side note, just one observation, throughout this particular thread guys mention "non-pro", I think they mean semi-pro. Normal, descent girls from any country won't go with some stranger (sex tourist twice their age) to their hotel/flat, after a couple of hours of meeting them, not even speak the same language, suck their dick and have sex !? [/QUOTE]
As a buddy of mine put it, "That country does not exist."
Just got to Fortaleza a few hours ago. Sun is shining and the beach is calling me.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]As a buddy of mine put it, "That country does not exist."
Just got to Fortaleza a few hours ago. Sun is shining and the beach is calling me.[/QUOTE]
I will be there at the end of the month. If it's your first time, you have to try 2020 Beliessma
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]I will be there at the end of the month. If it's your first time, you have to try 2020 Beliessma[/QUOTE]
That plan is shot. I'm with my girlfriend. I saw a few nice SWs when we were riding around looking for food at 2:00 last night though. The only thing open around here at that hour is Habib's though.
For those Fortaleza lovers, some pics are up from my previous trip.
(Balluba and Chris H enjoy)
(Mr Ent - hope to catch up with you next trip). PL99
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99]For those Fortaleza lovers, some pics are up from my previous trip.
(Balluba and Chris H enjoy)
(Mr Ent - hope to catch up with you next trip). PL99[/QUOTE]
Thank You Pipe, they where just great, look in Your PM.
B.
[QUOTE=Sperto]'
Thank you for sharing info on the beer cans... very valuable.
A shame that you didn't get any address to the second casa. Street name, phone number or a name on the casa? Prices?
I find it strange and very annoying when someone have the opportunity to contribute with valuable informations and don't succeed.
Specially when this someone is so eager to get detailed information from others.
Not that it really matters for me, but it pisses me of.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you. :D
Can anyone reccomend any daytime houses to check out in Fortaleza? Obrigado!
I was in Fortaleza last week.
As I was there just for 1 day and 2 nights, my experiences were limited.
Besides a day to the beach (as always perfect weather), both nights I took the easy route to Tremembés (plus a quick visit to Zipi Bar, not much happening, on walking distance).
For new visitors to Fortaleza, this street is 1 block from Forro do Pirata the tourist attraction with live Forro performances.
Since my last visit about a half year ago, there were some changes:
- Europa is closed.
- Café del Mar was renovated, but not really improved in my view. The balcony is now separated from the inside by a dark window alongside the bar (just a 20 cm gap above the bar to order your drink). Also much quieter than before.
- Forro mambo is now the busiest place (almost dead last year). Watch your tab, if not careful (especially with girls who ask cocktails or the infamous Red Bull/wodka) the bill can be higher than from the tln GdP later that night.
Not changed:
The men: Italians and in lesser extent Dutch.
Although funny to talk with 2 Cariocas about the differences between their beloved Rio and Fortaleza.
Quality of girls vary much, the short ones in the majority.
Funny to see quite a few old war horses and many so unattractive (course faces, fat) that you wonder if this is a fetish for many Italian men.
Also quite a big scene of regulars, I see there each time I visit for years.
The real attractive girls know it and their market-value (and I'm a shallow sucker for beauty) ranging from R$ 150 tot R$ 300 tln or R$ 150 st. Most of those have stories about visits to Europe, almost without exception with an Italian guy, ranging from skiing-holidays to living together for extended periods.
Others I found available from R$ 75 tln.
One rule about body-tightness: girls with a tight belly almost without exception wear a short shirt and belly button in view or a tight dress.
All girls with a loose shirt or dress have flabby bellies.
Watch out for spontaneous bare sex. I was surprised twice. One time the girl pulled the condom of in the middle of a session. Of course I noticed after a few strokes. The funny thing is that she had complained before about the difficulties of having a 5 month baby at home (from an Austrian guy, who had left her). So I asked if she didn't think it risky she'd get pregnant again this way and she just shrugged it off with a "I'll see then".
With their logic I doubt I'll ever win any discussion with them.
But somehow this is part of their appeal for me.
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Hy boys,
I will be in Fortaleza from 21 september to 3 october.
If anyone will be there we can meet for a beer in Beira Mar!
Any recent report from Fortaleza?
Hi,
Someone have pictures of a place named belissima? Please I like to see this place in my next vacation.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ranocchio]Hy boys,
I will be in Fortaleza from 21 September to 3 October.
If anyone will be there we can meet for a beer in Beira Mar!
Any recent report from Fortaleza? [/QUOTE]Hey I'm there from 20september to 3october. Lets meet. Holla at me [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]!
And to belissima. I was there. Its crap!
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[QUOTE=Ranocchio]Hy boys,
I will be in Fortaleza from 21 September to 3 October.
If anyone will be there we can meet for a beer in Beira Mar!
Any recent report from Fortaleza? [/QUOTE]hey I will be in fortaleza from 20 September to 3 october.
How can we get in touch?
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I have read through the entire thread here but I am still unclear on what the best time of year is for Fortaleza. Have been to Rio many times but is it the same high season in terms of the amt of GDP's around? I am thinking of going in the middle of October. Is this a good time? Is there really a big difference in the number and quality certain times a year in Fort?
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Hi,
I will be in Fortaleza next February from 2Oth to 28th.
It will be my first trip there. So I am doing my homeworks.
I will rest at Casa Blanca as it is girl friendly.
I am trying to find the best spot for TLN but I can not find any nice place for ST like in Rio. (Centaurus, 4x4, .)
I am looking after termas and I find no one except gay terma.
I apologize for my english. It is not really my native language. I manage better in french and spanish.
[QUOTE=Driller]Christoherd,
If you can dance Forro and speak Portuguese, I found that Fortaleza has some great non.pro options. If members are interested I can post them.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm interested. Maybe you also know if there's any spot in Forte to dance samba de gafieira?
I'm trying to book apartment for my trip but a bit confused as to what these large, high rise buildings are ! Are theiy hotel chains or privately owned condos....
Many of agencies and private landlords offering one or two units in these buildings, but then they seem to be part of large hotel chains, like Mercue, Accor, Parthenon, Tulip etc. (or may be they USED to be !?).
Now why I care is that some say these chains are not guest friendly but agencies and landlords say their's are, so I want to know which is it?
Some like Golden Fortaleza, Saint Martin (Martein), Othon etc., in the link below (go to bottom, search for partial names and check a few addresses) you see that many of these are the same, under chain hotel names (same buildings but different names):
[url]http://www.24confirm.com/hotels/brazil/fortaleza/[/url]
But there are many condos in these buildings offered by agencies/private landlords !???
Azmitgom,
Fortaleza has great nightlife and I found the non-pros very friendly especially if you can dance forro and speak Portuguese (none of the attitude you can get in Rio) I found it easy to come away with phone numbers and to kiss, be prepared for the killer question Where are you staying? . Don't say Hotel Puta friendly! Segunda: Pirata (20% GDPs) Forro/Axe and opposite Lupus Bar (20%) Forro Terca: Oasis Bar (0%)Av. Santos Dumont Gafiera/Forro
Air Egua (0%) Forro pe de Sierra
Quarta: Armazim (50%) Forro/Techno/Revival
Differente Bar (0%)Forro: Av Wasington Soares
Quinta: Coco Beach Praia Do Forturo (20%) Forro
Cural De Boi (0%)Forro Av Pontes Vieira
Sexta. Elicias De Sertao (0%)also terca
Kukukaya (0%)Forro pe de sierra. Av. Pontes Vieira
Sabado: Armazim (20%) Domingo Boa Vida (80%) 4pm Praia Do Futuro Forro
I'm finally going to Forta next week and have arranged an apartment, but I'm a bit worried if it falls through or it was a no show or some issues (I have some reasons to be a bit suspecious), hence I like a plan B.
I emailed Casa Blanca and they said they are fully booked up !? (in Oct, not a single room for one !!!?) - may be they don't have for the whole period I need, I don't know...
But any other guest friendly hotel options at reasonabe price/location (internet & safe will be good) ? Any suggestions are appreciated.
Cheers,
I was in Fortaleza fo 13 days (& nights) last week.
You can find pro girls during the afternoon in Praia do Futuro beaches like Crocobeach (more) and Cocobeach (less).
In tha late afternoon in Beira Mar bars near MacDonalds there are also pro girls looking for turists.
By about 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. Zippy Bar (Praia Iracema) is full of girls (all pro)
Forrò-Mambo & Cafè del Mar are discoteques full of pro-girls.
On wednestday Forò-Mambo is closed, all the business is in Armazen, almost full of programa girls.
Prices usually start fron 150 reais but usually will arrive to 100 sometimes plus taxy.
Who speak a reasonable portoguese, with a lttle sovuar faire can pick up non-pro garotas too, usually the girls who work in the shops.
I visited the IBIS (behind Holiday Inn) and the front desk quoted an additional 10 Reals for overnight guests.... it is on my list for my next visit....
Dev
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I'm finally going to Forta next week and have arranged an apartment, but I'm a bit worried if it falls through or it was a no show or some issues (I have some reasons to be a bit suspecious), hence I like a plan B.
I emailed Casa Blanca and they said they are fully booked up !? (in Oct, not a single room for one !!!?) - may be they don't have for the whole period I need, I don't know...
But any other guest friendly hotel options at reasonabe price/location (internet & safe will be good) ? Any suggestions are appreciated.
Cheers,[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I'm trying to book apartment for my trip but a bit confused as to what these large, high rise buildings are ! Are theiy hotel chains or privately owned condos....
Many of agencies and private landlords offering one or two units in these buildings, but then they seem to be part of large hotel chains, like Mercue, Accor, Parthenon, Tulip etc. (or may be they USED to be !?).
Now why I care is that some say these chains are not guest friendly but agencies and landlords say their's are, so I want to know which is it?
Some like Golden Fortaleza, Saint Martin (Martein), Othon etc., in the link below (go to bottom, search for partial names and check a few addresses) you see that many of these are the same, under chain hotel names (same buildings but different names):
[url]http://www.24confirm.com/hotels/brazil/fortaleza/[/url]
But there are many condos in these buildings offered by agencies/private landlords !???[/QUOTE]
Many apartments on these apart hotels are privately owned. They are managed by different agencies and offered at about half of the hotel rates.
So far I never had a problem bringing a girl back other than registering her.
Since I rent a car there and going up through the garage most of them they don't bother at all.
[QUOTE=Math92]Hi,
I will be in Fortaleza next February from 2Oth to 28th.
It will be my first trip there. So I am doing my homeworks.
I will rest at Casa Blanca as it is girl friendly.
I am trying to find the best spot for TLN but I can not find any nice place for ST like in Rio. (Centaurus, 4x4, .)
I am looking after termas and I find no one except gay terma.
I apologize for my english. It is not really my native language. I manage better in french and spanish.[/QUOTE]
There are no Termas in Fortaleza. Only in Rio. There are a few casas runing 24/7. Best of them is Belissima. Last February was $R90/hr. Expect to pay 20 more if you go by taxi, lots of nice doable girls there. For an extra 20 Reais they provide take out for two hours. You have to pay for the transpot of course.
For TLN start from the bars on Avenida Beira Mar opposite the Mc Donalds from 20:00 and then go to Zippie bar in Praia Iracema at about 23:00 and from there follow the skirts to the other clubs in the area. They keep rotating among them.up to the wee hours.
[QUOTE=El Greco]There are no Termas in Fortaleza. Only in Rio. There are a few casas runing 24/7. Best of them is Belissima. Last February was $R90/hr. Expect to pay 20 more if you go by taxi, lots of nice doable girls there. For an extra 20 Reais they provide take out for two hours. You have to pay for the transpot of course.
For TLN start from the bars on Avenida Beira Mar opposite the Mc Donalds from 20:00 and then go to Zippie bar in Praia Iracema at about 23:00 and from there follow the skirts to the other clubs in the area. They keep rotating among them.up to the wee hours.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your help but I have change my plans. I will go to Rio.
I have already booked my flight and apartment.
[url]http://www.flatsfortaleza.com/html/eng/eng.html[/url]
Located at Praia de Iracema, one of the noblest areas of Fortaleza, next to the pier in a small and silent street. This air conditioned one bedroom waterfront apartment is equipped with a big Flat-TV, DVD & CD-player, hot shower, balcony and an overwhelming view. Here you´ll find comfort and tranquility. Just minutes away from Fortalez´s famous night live. 24 hours Internet access in your room.
Daily rate : 95 R
Does this sound like a good location and good value?
[QUOTE=J Falcon][url]http://www.flatsfortaleza.com/html/eng/eng.html[/url]
Located at Praia de Iracema, one of the noblest areas of Fortaleza, next to the pier in a small and silent street. This air conditioned one bedroom waterfront apartment is equipped with a big Flat-TV, DVD & CD-player, hot shower, balcony and an overwhelming view. Here you´ll find comfort and tranquility. Just minutes away from Fortalez´s famous night live. 24 hours Internet access in your room.
Daily rate : 95 R
Does this sound like a good location and good value?[/QUOTE]
It's OK, but a bit expensive.
I've never stayed there, but I've visited a GF living there. The apartments are decent. It's a relatively newly constructed building in an area that used to be very deserted.
It's close to the GP area and also close to Drãgao do Mar.
There used to be a mini-favela on the end of the street. Maybe it's gone?
I got back from my Fortaleza, Rio trip. I will add some feedbacks whenever I can. I stayed in a place opossite Via Venetto, near Beira Mar, I was suppose to go to another apartment but I was switched to here. As it had similar specs I didn't bother too much.
It was a fully operational hotel but some flats were owned privately. For those staying in these rooms, it was GF, but I asked if I book with the hotel, and they said then I can not bring guests !?
Generally, very good location but even on high floors, it was very noisy day or night.
During the day and afternoon the WG gather opposite McDonald in Beira Mar as it is mentioned here before, though quality struggles to get passed 6, but I pulled 3 from here which could be considered 7/8, R100 for two times (1.5 hours), R50 for a quicky (I thing I got lucky, she was a real sweetie). R120 all night multi-pop.
The WG won't approach you, if they do they're really old & ugly, for good ones you need to really call them or go to them. In fact I found this everywhere in Brazil, I was surprised that for WG I need to make the first move, while just about everwhere else they come forward after a look and a smile. They (WG) and generally Brazilain girls (and some guys) seemed to have developed slight chip on their shoulders !? I had many Brazilaiin friends here in London going back 15 years ago and they were really down to earth nice people. I guess a bit of success does that to you, or those guys were well travelled and seen the rest of the world.
Not many speak English, in fact you won't find anyone, even mongers don't speak English or if they do not willing to chat !? Many Italians who keep to themselves. Also many playboy 20-25 year old guys, pretty young and good looking guys in Forta (even Brazilians, Italians, Duch etc.), not sure why they go after WG, when I was at that age I would not been seen dead paying for sex. Then the whole life was to pull a girl and get laid with minimum cost - not even spending much on drinks/food (we always had a bet with friends), I feel sorry for these guys, OK I wasn't pulling every night but it was pride and reputation at stake....was great fun too.
There are a lot of semi-pros who prefer these youngsters (hoping to hook a visa/ride to Europe too) and totally ignore older guys in clubs/discos, but from what I understood, they still charge at the end of the day, so very weird situation in this town. When the guys are asked for money they leave and then the girls instead of taaking my offer just go home alone - not sure why, perhaps the sheer embarresment all nght, as I was watching them throwing themself at these guys and knowing even if he pays he only takes one and the other ten will be left behind...!!!LOL
I was refused outright a few times in Brazil, while I'm average weight/hight/look/age/etc. I always manage to get to discussing the money with WG just about every where I travelled, then if I don't pay what they want they leave but a few times didn't even get that far as these Brazilian WG just didn't want to go !!?
I went to Pirata on Monday (R30 entry), nothing really for mongers there, fine to people watch and see the show but you really need good Porto to pull here. Lots of Brazilian tourists I think.
Wed. go to Armazem (R20 entry, beer R4 cheap!) as other places are dead. Other nights go straight to Forro Mambo (R15 entry, beer R9), most girls end up there. Also the opposite Cafe do Mar is good too (smaller than Mambo though) - girls move freely beween clubs, no entry. In Oct, there were so many girls, I say 5-1 ratio for girls to boys, though only half acceptable quality, still lots to choose from, buyers market...
I also enjoyed a few beers and a game of something like pool (not sure what they call that game) in Heineken Cafe next door to these clubs (beer R7 no entry).
I taxied each way to clubs, around R9. I took a girl just about every night from these clubs, about R100 to R150 for all night. But some wouldn't stay for all nght or didn't want to do more than one time, so I deducted something from their pay. I think everyone should mention multi-pop condition upfront, if refused later then don't give them the full amount - they pull this trick because some guys pay the full amount, so they try it on.... would you pay full price for half your pizza !?
I hit a couple of star-fish in bed but mainly he rest weren't bad, the girls here were generally less hardcore than Rio and more GF, which I liked.
Barraca Boa Vida near Coco Beach at Praia do Futuro has live Forro music on Sunday 4pm and some of the WG are there (it's a small place so you get to see the same girls every where).
On Thr it is at Croco Beach in Praia do Futuro (note Croco not Coco), but at night all the girls are at Mambo anyway. At night after 8pm and on Sunday taxis are on Bandera 2, so cost more, Sunday trip to Praia do Futuro cost R25 each way. Cheaper weekdays.
I called Casa Belissima one night, a very unfriendly woman couldn't or wouldn't want to understand what I was asking, very unhelpful, I just wanted to know till what time they are open, I asked in Porto, Spanish and English but she was either stupid or just plain ignorant. Put me on hold for ages and then when I thougth she went to get someone after 5 min she picked it up again and wouldn't answer me, I hung up and thought, f**k it, why do I want to go to such an unfriendly sh*t-hole anyway.
To be honest I got a bit frustrated in Brazil in general, it takes time to get used to things there, I'm sure repeat trips will help.
I report more as I remember and also on Rio later.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I went to Pirata on Monday (R30 entry), nothing really for mongers there, fine to people watch and see the show but you really need good Porto to pull here. Lots of Brazilian tourists I think.
Wed. go to Armazem (R20 entry, beer R4 cheap!) as other places are dead. Other nights go straight to Forro Mambo (R15 entry, beer R9), most girls end up there. Also the opposite Cafe do Mar is good too (smaller than Mambo though) - girls move freely beween clubs, no entry. In Oct, there were so many girls, I say 5-1 ratio for girls to boys, though only half acceptable quality, still lots to choose from, buyers market...
I also enjoyed a few beers and a game of something like pool (not sure what they call that game) in Heineken Cafe next door to these clubs (beer R7 no entry).
I taxied each way to clubs, around R9. I took a girl just about every night from these clubs, about R100 to R150 for all night. But some wouldn't stay for all nght or didn't want to do more than one time, so I deducted something from their pay. I think everyone should mention multi-pop condition upfront, if refused later then don't give them the full amount - they pull this trick because some guys pay the full amount, so they try it on.... would you pay full price for half your pizza !?
I hit a couple of star-fish in bed but mainly he rest weren't bad, the girls here were generally less hardcore than Rio and more GF, which I liked.
Barraca Boa Vida near Coco Beach at Praia do Futuro has live Forro music on Sunday 4pm and some of the WG are there (it's a small place so you get to see the same girls every where).
On Thr it is at Croco Beach in Praia do Futuro (note Croco not Coco), but at night all the girls are at Mambo anyway. At night after 8pm and on Sunday taxis are on Bandera 2, so cost more, Sunday trip to Praia do Futuro cost R25 each way. Cheaper weekdays.
I called Casa Belissima one night, a very unfriendly woman couldn't or wouldn't want to understand what I was asking, very unhelpful, I just wanted to know till what time they are open, I asked in Porto, Spanish and English but she was either stupid or just plain ignorant. Put me on hold for ages and then when I thougth she went to get someone after 5 min she picked it up again and wouldn't answer me, I hung up and thought, f**k it, why do I want to go to such an unfriendly sh*t-hole anyway.
To be honest I got a bit frustrated in Brazil in general, it takes time to get used to things there, I'm sure repeat trips will help.
I report more as I remember and also on Rio later.[/QUOTE]
These are very accurate reports Uzi; one question thought: did you make it to bar Zippi's?
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]
I called Casa Belissima one night, a very unfriendly woman couldn't or wouldn't want to understand what I was asking, very unhelpful, I just wanted to know till what time they are open, .[/QUOTE]
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You most probably caught them by surprise because normally they are open 24/7 except Xmass eve .
[QUOTE=El Greco].
You most probably caught them by surprise because normally they are open 24/7 except Xmass eve .[/QUOTE]
Vow, 24/7 !? If I had only known I would have visited them for sure, there were times I was in need of some relief during the day/evening but nothing interesting could be found....shame, something for the next trip.
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]These are very accurate reports Uzi; one question thought: did you make it to bar Zippi's?[/QUOTE]
I passed by it every night in the taxi, but it was very quite/dark around that place. The street where Mambo is, is always buzzing with a lot of people/girls, so I went straight there. That's another place to visit the next trip - are there girls there that don't come to Mambo eventually ?!
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]I passed by it every night in the taxi, but it was very quite/dark around that place. The street where Mambo is, is always buzzing with a lot of people/girls, so I went straight there. That's another place to visit the next trip - are there girls there that don't come to Mambo eventually ?![/QUOTE]
There is a "track" the girls follow:
1. the beach bars near McDonalds; but sometimes at other bars
2. then to Zippis which opens around 10, then closes around 1
3. after that, they head to the triangle around Mamboo's unitl around 5am
Last year in June I was in Fortaleza and got to enjoy Armazem on a Wednesday night. Got to admit it was one of my best nights in For. I had a lot of fun dancing and making out with a few girls, then picked a sexy and wild girl called Ariana who came to spend the night with me, no mention of $ until the morning before leaving where she asked for 100R but I gave her 50R and she accepted without much effort.
I understand that the scene alternates each night. So Wednesday nights, it's Armazem, how about the rest of the week? I'd be grateful if someone in the know can tell which club to go each night of the week as I might be going in For in about 2 weeks time.
Very much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Last year in June I was in Fortaleza and got to enjoy Armazem on a Wednesday night. Got to admit it was one of my best nights in For. I had a lot of fun dancing and making out with a few girls, then picked a sexy and wild girl called Ariana who came to spend the night with me, no mention of $ until the morning before leaving where she asked for 100R but I gave her 50R and she accepted without much effort.
I understand that the scene alternates each night. So Wednesday nights, it's Armazem, how about the rest of the week? I'd be grateful if someone in the know can tell which club to go each night of the week as I might be going in For in about 2 weeks time.
Very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, there is not much of a choice - as far as gringo friendly clubs go.
You can try our luck at Murcuipe (sp?), but there are almost no GdPs there. Cafe de Marr is across the street from Mamboos.
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]There is a "track" the girls follow:
1. the beach bars near McDonalds; but sometimes at other bars
2. then to Zippis which opens around 10, then closes around 1
3. after that, they head to the triangle around Mamboo's unitl around 5am[/QUOTE]
That's OK then, I must have seen them all later in Mambo, I would have hated it if I hadn't seen all the honeys in Forta.... ! LOL
So would you say that Cafe do Mar and Mambos are the places to go each night for some good action? (by action I mean a nice club to chill, have some fun and pick a chick like say Armazem on Wednesday nights)?
Thanks again!
[QUOTE=Dwilso39]To be honest, there is not much of a choice - as far as gringo friendly clubs go.
You can try our luck at Murcuipe (sp?), but there are almost no GdPs there. Cafe de Marr is across the street from Mamboos.[/QUOTE]
For all of use that have spent some time in Fortaleza, how would you compare it to Rio? The cost off food/drinks partying etc. Accomadation? The quality off the garotas and cost? The service from the garotas. Do you get hasseled by street kids and beggers there as much as Rio? I am spending 6 months in Brazil next year. In 2 trips. Will be spending a month in a few costal cities, fortaleza is one off them on my list. Also it is suppose to rain alot from January to June there, are there still alot off sunny beach days?
Time for me to venture out off Rio. And start seeing alot off brazil.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]So would you say that Cafe do Mar and Mambos are the places to go each night for some good action? (by action I mean a nice club to chill, have some fun and pick a chick like say Armazem on Wednesday nights)?
Thanks again![/QUOTE]
If you want GPs you have Zipi and all the bars in the "GP-crossing" (Europa, Café d M, Heineken Café, Forró & Mambo etc).
I think Zipi is good for a early catch. Europa, Café d M and F & M are just about OK. It's a shame that they are quite expensive (specially F & M).
I like to have a couple of cheap 600 ml beers in the "Reggae Bar" next to Europa. Cool place with good burgers. The perfect observation post, from here you'll see all the girls that arrives in the crossing. From this location you will be able to have the first pick of the gems.
I also like Heineken Café. Very relaxed, lots of girls (even though not the top notch girls), no entrance fee or minimum consumption.
Armazem on Wednesdays can be fun, GP-night. Mostly the same girls that you'll meet the rest of the week in the GP-crossing, but also some nice once-a-month-GPs that have bills to pay.
If you want to meet regular girls, Fortaleza has a great nightlife with lots of Forró clubs. Many of them reported here in this thread. Some of them are far away and it can be a hassle to know which days they are working.
Mucuripe on a Friday night is a absolutely must! Huge place with 4 pistas and lots of very beautiful women. There are some GPs there, ignore them. It's not hard to pick up a regular girl at Mucuripe. Remember to be quick or the local guys will have picked all the beautiful girls, and only left the chubbies with football-heads glued to their necks.
[url]http://www.mucuripe.com.br/[/url]
Thank you very much Sperto for your greatly detailed post. I will certainly take note of the places you mentioned as I had a ball the one wednesday night I went to Armazem. I'll arrive in Fortaleza on a Friday early evening, so it'll be Mucuripe after a quick shower and dinner.
Johnny Braz,
To answer your question of comparing Rio to Fortaleza, I would say that Fortaleza, things are about as much as 50% cheaper than Rio. For example, take Prive Belissima, which is a casa with girls the quality of what you would find in a 1st tier terma in Rio at 1/3 of the prices. In Rio you would pay easily 300 reais for 1 hour with a garota, in P. Belissima in Fortaleza, it's 90 reais for 1 hour in house or 130 Reais 2 hours take out. Hotels are also cheaper, same for aparts. I found the scene of course a lot smaller than in Rio but there is good selection. One aspect of Fortaleza that I enjoy very much is the tremendous possibility of non pro action, specially if one speaks the language.
All in all, Fortaleza is a terrific place to spend an extended period of time and I am toying with that idea as well (that is spend a few months in a few cities like Belo Horizonte, Goiania, Fortaleza and maybe as well in Belem or in Joao Pessoa. These cities are gold mines for non pros, but portuguese is a must there to tap into these bundas.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Thank you very much Sperto for your greatly detailed post. I will certainly take note of the places you mentioned as I had a ball the one wednesday night I went to Armazem. I'll arrive in Fortaleza on a Friday early evening, so it'll be Mucuripe after a quick shower and dinner.
Johnny Braz,
To answer your question of comparing Rio to Fortaleza, I would say that Fortaleza, things are about as much as 50% cheaper than Rio. For example, take Prive Belissima, which is a casa with girls the quality of what you would find in a 1st tier terma in Rio at 1/3 of the prices. In Rio you would pay easily 300 reais for 1 hour with a garota, in P. Belissima in Fortaleza, it's 90 reais for 1 hour in house or 130 Reais 2 hours take out. Hotels are also cheaper, same for aparts. I found the scene of course a lot smaller than in Rio but there is good selection. One aspect of Fortaleza that I enjoy very much is the tremendous possibility of non pro action, specially if one speaks the language.
All in all, Fortaleza is a terrific place to spend an extended period of time and I am toying with that idea as well (that is spend a few months in a few cities like Belo Horizonte, Goiania, Fortaleza and maybe as well in Belem or in Joao Pessoa. These cities are gold mines for non pros, but portuguese is a must there to tap into these bundas.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sprite 13.
I am thinking about 5 weeks in natal, 5 weeks in fortaleza, 5 weeks in joao pessoa. A total of 15 weeks in that north east part off brazil in the new year. Need a change from Rio. Will still spend 5 weeks in Rio on the same trip.
one question.. it seems that most off the apartments for fortaleza that i have looked at require you to sign guests in at your apartment, which i find to be a pain, especially at 3am in the morning drunk and you have 2 women with you and you have to waste 20 minutes signing them in.. does anyone know some top 1 or 2 bedroom apartments that don't require you to sign your guests in??
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Also many playboy 20-25 year old guys, pretty young and good looking guys in Forta (even Brazilians, Italians, Duch etc.), not sure why they go after WG, when I was at that age I would not been seen dead paying for sex. Then the whole life was to pull a girl and get laid with minimum cost - not even spending much on drinks/food (we always had a bet with friends), I feel sorry for these guys, OK I wasn't pulling every night but it was pride and reputation at stake....was great fun too.[/QUOTE]You are thinking from the perspective of someone who has a small budget, isn't particular about his sex, and has no girlfriend at home. I doubt these guys fit that mold.
When I was in that age range, I did the same thing. I had a good budget and a girlfriend at home. I didn't care to waste my time playing mind games with other girls in bars. I just wanted stunning girls who would do anal and take CIM without any formalities before or after..and to have as many as possible, as fast as possible. The money was irrelevant. As an analogy, if I wanted a good meal, I didn't spend 3 hours walking and looking for some obscure cheap restaurant, then hope for the best...I'd take a cab to a reputable restaurant and pay a fair price to get exactly what I wanted.
Some of my coworkers have the mentality of moral pride that you mentioned. They wouldn't pay a single centavo to be with any girl, no matter how hot. We go out to bars and they work the crowds of average girls all night, kissing their asses and buying them drinks. I just hang out, drink beer and watch with amusement. At the end of the night, they usually strike out and go to their hotel rooms to whack their proud selves off, then I go out to the termas or similar place and bang smoking hot girls for about the same price they just spent buying drinks for prick teases that wouldn't even spare them a handjob. :) My score is many times higher than theirs and I've lived stuff that they'll only dream of. You should feel sorry for those guys with foolish pride and blue balls, not for young guys who are down in Brazil using pocket change to bang uninhibited girls. Those are the lucky ones.
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]one question.. it seems that most off the apartments for fortaleza that i have looked at require you to sign guests in at your apartment, which i find to be a pain, especially at 3am in the morning drunk and you have 2 women with you and you have to waste 20 minutes signing them in.. does anyone know some top 1 or 2 bedroom apartments that don't require you to sign your guests in??[/QUOTE]
In Fortaleza just about all apartment buildings are very strict about signing in guests. Exceptions are buildings without porteiros (those are very few and can be unsafe).
Signing in the girls are routine for the porteiros and goes very quickly. No problem at all. This strict registering girls are just to avoid gringos having sex with minors.
[QUOTE=Sperto]In Fortaleza just about all apartment buildings are very strict about signing in guests. Exceptions are buildings without porteiros (those are very few and can be unsafe).
Signing in the girls are routine for the porteiros and goes very quickly. No problem at all. This strict registering girls are just to avoid gringos having sex with minors.[/QUOTE]Is there ever a problem brining in 2 or more women at once?
[QUOTE=Sperto]In Fortaleza just about all apartment buildings are very strict about signing in guests. Exceptions are buildings without porteiros (those are very few and can be unsafe).
Signing in the girls are routine for the porteiros and goes very quickly. No problem at all. This strict registering girls are just to avoid gringos having sex with minors.[/QUOTE]By the way, the age of consent in Brazil seems to have dropped from 18 to 14 in 2009, anyone confirms?
Signing in the girls is also the best way of not finding yourself drugged (boa noite cinderella) and rubbed (or worse) by a GDP and friends.
[QUOTE=Sprite13] I'll arrive in Fortaleza on a Friday early evening, so it'll be Mucuripe after a quick shower and dinner.
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Make sure you pass from Dragao do Mar before going to Mucuripe disco.
9pm to midnight is fine with plenty of eye candy. Many places for dinner there too. These are the two hotest places for Friday evening for niewbies in Fortalesa.
Have fun
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Is there ever a problem brining in 2 or more women at once?[/QUOTE]
Depends on the building.
Once I arrived with 2 girls I met at the beach. The porteiros just let them come up one at a time. The other one had to wait downstairs.
[QUOTE=Luka22]By the way, the age of consent in Brazil seems to have dropped from 18 to 14 in 2009, anyone confirms?[/QUOTE]
Luka, the forum rules: "Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person(s) under the age of 18 years. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately."
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]You are thinking from the perspective of someone who has a small budget, isn't particular about his sex, and has no girlfriend at home. I doubt these guys fit that mold.
When I was in that age range, I did the same thing. I had a good budget and a girlfriend at home. I didn't care to waste my time playing mind games with other girls in bars. I just wanted stunning girls who would do anal and take CIM without any formalities before or after..and to have as many as possible, as fast as possible. The money was irrelevant. As an analogy, if I wanted a good meal, I didn't spend 3 hours walking and looking for some obscure cheap restaurant, then hope for the best...I'd take a cab to a reputable restaurant and pay a fair price to get exactly what I wanted.
Some of my coworkers have the mentality of moral pride that you mentioned. They wouldn't pay a single centavo to be with any girl, no matter how hot. We go out to bars and they work the crowds of average girls all night, kissing their asses and buying them drinks. I just hang out, drink beer and watch with amusement. At the end of the night, they usually strike out and go to their hotel rooms to whack their proud selves off, then I go out to the termas or similar place and bang smoking hot girls for about the same price they just spent buying drinks for prick teases that wouldn't even spare them a handjob. :) My score is many times higher than theirs and I've lived stuff that they'll only dream of. You should feel sorry for those guys with foolish pride and blue balls, not for young guys who are down in Brazil using pocket change to bang uninhibited girls. Those are the lucky ones.[/QUOTE]
I am not proud to say that I was one of those that were to proud to spend money. That was until I met a monger that explained that the money I spent partying my life away was often times more than the money I spent had I just ponied up some cash and hooked up with some high class providers. Trust me you spend far more chasing pussy than paying to fuck it. He additionally explained that you could have some good life experiences with working girls as well as mingling with fellow mongers which I came to find out. Truth is, no matter how good looking you are, unless you are an athlete, or high profile individual, most likely you will not pull super hot girls from nightclubs only the average, which terma girls are far superior to. I just wish I did not waste so much time and had been one of those young studs chasing pretty WG pussy.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]So would you say that Cafe do Mar and Mambos are the places to go each night for some good action? (by action I mean a nice club to chill, have some fun and pick a chick like say Armazem on Wednesday nights)?
Thanks again![/QUOTE]
I would say YES. Also, do not forget about bar Zippi. There is no entracne fee, and you can "scout" you choice of girl there before you head to forro Mambos.
Also, there are a couple of casa in Fortleza; the most famous being Bellisma 2020. The price is 90/hour.
[quote=sperto]luka, the forum rules: "please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person(s) under the age of 18 years. any person violating this policy will banned immediately."[/quote]ok. i don't want to violate this policy and i don't refer to anyone ****. i just think it might be of general interest to know the legal age of consent in any country, ranging from 21 in madagascar to 13 in spain. it is a matter of national law.
ps i made a typo in my last post, i meant of course "get robbed in the morning", not rubbed.
The two posters below just said it all the perfect way, no more to add, so I just second their oppinion and say: Amen! - Ain't that just the plain and simple truth! :)
Greetings, Ken Apples
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Originally Posted by Puta Playa
You are thinking from the perspective of someone who has a small budget, isn't particular about his sex, and has no girlfriend at home. I doubt these guys fit that mold.
When I was in that age range, I did the same thing. I had a good budget and a girlfriend at home. I didn't care to waste my time playing mind games with other girls in bars. I just wanted stunning girls who would do anal and take CIM without any formalities before or after..and to have as many as possible, as fast as possible. The money was irrelevant. As an analogy, if I wanted a good meal, I didn't spend 3 hours walking and looking for some obscure cheap restaurant, then hope for the best...I'd take a cab to a reputable restaurant and pay a fair price to get exactly what I wanted.
Some of my coworkers have the mentality of moral pride that you mentioned. They wouldn't pay a single centavo to be with any girl, no matter how hot. We go out to bars and they work the crowds of average girls all night, kissing their asses and buying them drinks. I just hang out, drink beer and watch with amusement. At the end of the night, they usually strike out and go to their hotel rooms to whack their proud selves off, then I go out to the termas or similar place and bang smoking hot girls for about the same price they just spent buying drinks for prick teases that wouldn't even spare them a handjob. My score is many times higher than theirs and I've lived stuff that they'll only dream of. You should feel sorry for those guys with foolish pride and blue balls, not for young guys who are down in Brazil using pocket change to bang uninhibited girls. Those are the lucky ones. .[QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rawlo]I am not proud to say that I was one of those that were to proud to spend money. That was until I met a monger that explained that the money I spent partying my life away was often times more than the money I spent had I just ponied up some cash and hooked up with some high class providers. Trust me you spend far more chasing pussy than paying to fuck it. He additionally explained that you could have some good life experiences with working girls as well as mingling with fellow mongers which I came to find out. Truth is, no matter how good looking you are, unless you are an athlete, or high profile individual, most likely you will not pull super hot girls from nightclubs only the average, which terma girls are far superior to. I just wish I did not waste so much time and had been one of those young studs chasing pretty WG pussy.[/QUOTE]
[quote=luka22]ok. i don't want to violate this policy and i don't refer to anyone ****. i just think it might be of general interest to know the legal age of consent in any country, ranging from 21 in madagascar to 13 in spain. it is a matter of national law.[/quote]
no matter what is the age of consent in brazil, but if you want to avoid spending time in a brazilian prison you should never even consider getting involved with a girl under the age of 18.
Hi Guys,
I'm in Fortaleza right now at the Casa Blanca Hotel. Good quality/price ratio for 90 Rs (King size bed). Very fast and free internet (wire) in the room. Wifi in the Lobby. No problem to come back with a girl yesterday night (she had to leave her ID at the front desk)
The swimming pool is in servicing (just yesterday and today they say.) So I checked the Hotel Ibis. Better swimming pool there but the price is 89 Rs + 10Rs for breakfast + 12Rs for internet p/day. The lobby is small. I tried to see a room but the key (card) they gave me didn't work.
I went to the Massage Parliour Bellissima yesterday at 9pm30. About 10 girls from 4 to 7 in quality. 20 guys around. Taxi cost from Casa blanca about 15 Rs. Price of the girl and room for one hour: 92 Rs. Beer 4 Rs. When I left, there were more girls and I saw a cutie HB8. The place and rooms are nothing compared to a therma in Rio but they are OK.
I went then, at around 1am to the triangle Cafe Europa (closed), Cafe del mar, Mambo Forró (6Rs taxi fare from Casa blanca). I first sat at the reggae bar at the entrance of the street (15 yards from the triangle). Relaxed atmosphere with only white gringos (meaning in Brazil anyone that is not Brazilian.) from 25 to 50 years old checking the girls arrivals. Food not so good: bad chips and big cheeseburger with a tiny piece of meat.
Then I checked the scene further down and got quite a bit hassled by beggars, crazy girls, shoe shiners, drug dealers, etc. Even the girls working for Mambo forro are quite stupid. Very few people stay in the streets and they all seem to get in (15Rs for Mambo forro, possibly more expensive for Cafe del Mar) to escape the assholes in the street. I didn't get in.
In 2 hours in the streets, I must have seen 150 girls around there: all of them from 4 to 7 in looks. I've seen 2 HB8, at different times, rushing in cafe del mar. I didn't want to pay the entrance fee to chase them in. Alltogether the quality of looks is very poor and they are not really relaxed either. Vulgar ***** They are quite full of themselves (metidas). Quite disappointing. I remember the scene in Rio 10-15 years ago. It was 10 times better in terms of the beauty of the girls
I ended up taking a non-pro girl's phone number in the street (a waitress off of her work) HB8. I'm gonna call her now.
At 2 am I took a HB7 home (face 9, body 6, 5 in my book) for 100Rs 2 hours. I took a taxi opposite the street from reggae bar. I was told by girls that the taxis on the same side of the street are "taxi maffia" rip off and can be dangerous.
Good GFE f., she started to French Kiss me but I refused, BBBJ, but she only stayed 1 hour and had to leave to rejoin her friend. A warpig sapatona (dike) that was left alone in reggae bar. Stupid attitude. (yet I didn't want to do her anymore anyways. So I bargained down but did not insist too long and paid her since she performed very well)
I'm definitely gonna check the non pro discotecas and try and pick up in the streets. The pro scene is not worth it to me.
Cheers
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Luka22,
Nice report, I look forward to hearing more. What rate are the cambio's giving out for us and euro in Fortaleza?
I'll be in Fortaleza from the night of 08-Nov-09 to 12-Nov-09. Still need to book apartment. If anyone's interested in partying or just grabbing a beer PM me. Tips also welcome. You can read more about me in Travel Plans & Announcements ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...splay.php?f=158[/url]).
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Luka22,
Nice report, I look forward to hearing more. What rate are the cambio's giving out for us and euro in Fortaleza?[/QUOTE]
Expect less than in Rio.
In the "old days" you got the best rate in an anonymous place on the top of a bakery in Centro. A fat sweaty guy behind a desk, bodyguards, an enormous stack of bills and a long que of guys eager to change their money. He gave a good rate.
[QUOTE=Sperto]Expect less than in Rio.
In the "old days" you got the best rate in an anonymous place on the top of a bakery in Centro. A fat sweaty guy behind a desk, bodyguards, an enormous stack of bills and a long que of guys eager to change their money. He gave a good rate.[/QUOTE]once again. Thank you sperto. It actually works out alot cheaper for me to fly to Rio first, then get a tam flight to fortaleza or natal a few days later. So I will change all my money in Rio, and use bank cards when needed in Fortaleza or Natal.
Following what I read on this board I tried Dragão do Mar on Friday night (7Rs taxi fare from Hotel Casa Blanca). It's a big square with a lot of restaurants and locals hanging out. Relaxed atmosphere with security but not a pick up place for a guy alone.
On Saturday night, I went to the Mac Donald's on Beira Mar (10 RS from Hotel Casa Blanca), where there's supposed to be some action in the bars opposite to it.
at 8pm30, I sat at the corner restaurant accross the small street from Mac Donald's and watched the scene for about 2 hours. I must be thick cause I didn't see any action. Nothing... Only dealers, assholes and beggars in the streets (one stupid bloke was disguised as the hilarious "Freddy Mercury" from the Brasilian TV show "Pánico na TV", i.e. all painted in silver colour harassing people in the streets trying to be funny, without success...)
Then I went to Zipi bar at around 10pm30. No entrance fee, beer at 7-8Rs. I didn't see many good looking girls as the place was not full at first.
Then it started to slowly fill up and there were quite a few cute girls (lots of 7 and a few 8-8,5). Much better quality than what I saw the first night outside Mambo forro - Cafe del Mar.
The girls I talked to were pretty friendly too. Good attitude. I had fun and took some phone numbers.
The place was crowded with gringos (a lot of them in good shape) and some older guys.
5Rs taxi fare to go back to Casa Blanca
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[QUOTE=Luka22]Following what I read on this board I tried Dragão do Mar on Friday night (7Rs taxi fare from Hotel Casa Blanca). It's a big square with a lot of restaurants and locals hanging out. Relaxed atmosphere with security but not a pick up place for a guy alone.
On Saturday night, I went to the Mac Donald's on Beira Mar (10 RS from Hotel Casa Blanca), where there's supposed to be some action in the bars opposite to it.
at 8pm30, I sat at the corner restaurant accross the small street from Mac Donald's and watched the scene for about 2 hours. I must be thick cause I didn't see any action. Nothing... Only dealers, assholes and beggars in the streets (one stupid bloke was disguised as the hilarious "Freddy Mercury" from the Brasilian TV show "Pánico na TV", i.e. all painted in silver colour harassing people in the streets trying to be funny, without success...)
Then I went to Zipi bar at around 10pm30. No entrance fee, beer at 7-8Rs. I didn't see many good looking girls as the place was not full at first.
Then it started to slowly fill up and there were quite a few cute girls (lots of 7 and a few 8-8,5). Much better quality than what I saw the first night outside Mambo forro - Cafe del Mar.
The girls I talked to were pretty friendly too. Good attitude. I had fun and took some phone numbers.
The place was crowded with gringos (a lot of them in good shape) and some older guys.
5Rs taxi fare to go back to Casa Blanca
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If you are there on tuesday, try Armazen.
Also, the beach bars right across the stress from McDonalds, there is one with a a Garcson name Jose; ask anyone in the area becuase they all know him. He is a good source to help you find some girls.
[quote=luka22]ok. i don't want to violate this policy and i don't refer to anyone ****. i just think it might be of general interest to know the legal age of consent in any country, ranging from 21 in madagascar to 13 in spain. it is a matter of national law.
ps i made a typo in my last post, i meant of course "get robbed in the morning", not rubbed.[/quote]actually the age of consent in brazil can be 16.
if you like a special girl, she can haveher parent or parents sign a "declaration of emancipation" at the cartorio.
gives her the right to work and to be with you at any time, but not the right to smoke or drink, careful police can still try to bust you for contribuing to deliquency of a juvenile.