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  1. #571
    As I wrote, noone has to do a session with a Katoi.

    But there is a need for that, otherwise these Katois wouldnīt earn money in the clubs.

    And why should she advertise as a "Post-OP TS"? When she feels like a woman, she will tell you that she is one. That wouldnīt even be a lie.

    If you recognize a Katoi and donīt want to do a session with her, just donīt do it.

    If you donīt recognize a Katoi as a Katoi, it doesnīt make a difference.

  2. #570
    Jackson has been pretty clear on many sections of this forum that he will not tolerate posts about sex with post-ops, TV's Ts's or any other sort of deviant. Wahtever your personal beliefs, Jackson seems to have made it a personal point in his forum that Boys who pretend to be girls, or girls who used to be boys should not be mentioned. Let's keep it like this.

    I also have to say I think if any person is working at an FKK who does not have the right chromosone structure, should have to walk around all day with a sign saying so.

  3. #569

    I love girls...

    Ortos and Capt Nemo. I take your point. It all depends on whether one sees a post-op as a girl or not. I do, so I do not see it as false advertising. However I suspect most members do not see a post op as a girl, (the absence of a clitoris might be a disaster if one wants sex with a girl!) in which case it might be considered unacceptable (like buying a BMW which had been secretly fitted with a Nissan engine - it might/might not be better but it's not what the buyer expected ). Even if legally the person is a woman. Maybe I'm having a bad day but on this occasion I don't see how to square the circle. The "girl" can't exactly wear a disclaimer, but nor should hs/she be barred from working if she is legally a woman and considers herself a woman.

    I fall back on the idea that the buyer has to be aware. If the person has a small man type ass, false breasts, no clit and just a urethral opening instead (but it's a bit hard to discover thatt early on) then it is/was obviously a man

  4. #568
    It has nothing to do with intolerance. It has everything to do with false advertising.

    When I go to a fish market for red snapper, I expect the real thing. I don’t want to buy some human-made red snapper. It is different. It is not real red snapper.

    As long as everyone is aware of this, it is cool. Take your selection carefully at such place.

  5. #567
    I think it is an important point about the need to avoid intolerance in our beloved FKKs. And whilst I am no expert in TS's or post-ops or whatever, I certainly would not like to be tricked into a session with a man thinking he/she/it is a girl.

    So I would only raise the question of honest business practises here. If a so-called "chick-with-a-dick" is passing herself off as girl but is not in fact a girl, and he/she/it does not reveal his/her true nature, is that not fraud?

    I mean if you go into a restaurant and order lobster, but they bring you some kind of fish painted-up as lobster and positioned in a lobster shell, that ain't right, ist es?

  6. #566

    Chicks Without Dicks

    Quote Originally Posted by Novize
    IMHO an FKK-club is not a place for intolerance.
    Well said. Maybe I'm a bit over tolerant but I think it's a question of each to his own. The more range the better. I have accidentallygone with two post ops (not in FKKs) and found their service was of the absolutely highest - although I was a bit mentally confused afterwards.

    I can see it could offend some people but there are so many things which can offend - girls at FKKs get offended if a client wants to lick their feet, or use a vibrator, or if their boyfriend has sex with a prostitute; men at FKKs get upset if the previous client came in the girl's mouth, some men are intolerant of the girl's being real people and not plastic playthings.

    So I think we need to mellow a bit about it and accept that it's one of life's risks that things at an FKK may turn out to be a bit more unexpected than our normal life

  7. #565
    Ciao,

    I am completely agree about what say Lover Boy.

    I not expect and surely NOT want to find this type of "figure" into.

    I say, I am not with a close mind (who can be with close mind into a FKK?)

    Just it is not the right place for them, i believe.

    (I always think that one thing is connected to another. I am not pretty sure their customers are the same with the daily ones there are now)

    For FKK fans like me (and the people I know) this palce is a PARADISE, and I really hope never will change the policy.

    Maximun respect for trans/ladyboy, just my personal opinion it isn't the place for them.

    P.s. However i am sure they already have a place.

    I come from far for spend nice time in these places... surely i will "change" if i will find me into a "bad" situation.

    Bye

  8. #564

    Chicks without dicks

    Iīm quite sure one can find post-OP Transsexuals at FKK-clubs. I donīt think that there are pre-OP TSīes working.

    These persons feel like women, legally they are women, so why shouldnīt they work there?

    Noone is obliged to book them, so itīs up to the customers to take their choice.

    IMHO an FKK-club is not a place for intolerance.

  9. #563
    "Warning: Chick with the dick

    Do you guys know that there is a chick with the dick (or used to have a dick) working at Oase? I never read any report on this".

    I reported on this earlier at the Atlantis club. This male (now ?) was working some American soldiers near the bar area, flanked by another Thai girl. The same thing happened...a guy picked him and returned with a smile on his face.....claiming a great blow job. No doubt!!

    I complained to two managers. Both listened, but seemed mildly annoyed that I realized this was a chick with a dick....no that the character should be working elsewhere....where his talent could be appreciated.

    I personally don't like this kind of stuff because it is easy for the inexperienced colleagues to pick a dude up. This should not be happening in the FKK environment....which should have protection against this. If a guy is looking for a chick with a dick, there are many places in Germany for him to go...and guys who want this know this very well. So, why throw a mystery penis/lady boy on unsuspecting mongers? I think this is very bad policy for this type of club.

  10. #562

    Room Backlog?

    I actually look forward to the room backlog problem as it gives all that off the clock time to get to know the person waiting with you a little better. Those standing in line feel up/makeout sessions can be great!

  11. #561

    Oase - Sunday 11

    This Sunday I made my first visit ever to a German FKK. I hade time from Sunday noon to Monday afternoon to spend in Frankfurt and following the recent reports in this forum, I decided to go for Oase. This showed to be very good choise.

    Rented a Smart Car from Sixti.de The cost for two days including insurance and 200 km was only 28 Euro. I hade also booked an overnight at the Mercure hotel in Friedrichsdorf. My company has a discount card at Accor hotels, so the overnight cost was 30 Euro for the room. It was very easy to find the way from the airport to the hotel. Took about 25 minutes (you don't drive that fast with a Smart) The good thing with Friedrichsdorf is that it takes only 5 minutes by car from the hotel to Oase.

    Since I was too early for the hotelroom, I headed directly to Oase. No big trouble to find that place either. I hade printed a map from map24.de and used that one toghether with the description on the webpage of the FKK. 2 pm and 20 cars on the parking area. Here we go.

    The lady at the entrance asked if it was my first visit (was that so obvious) and I had to admit. Got a towel, key, and she then showed med the way to the locker room and quickly explained the premises and the cost related to the girls. As a newbe at the FKK I must admit it's a strange feeling when you first enter the place and 10 naked girls are looking back at you as you pass the bar. One of them immediately smiled, stroke my arm and said welcome. I escaped down to the locker room and tried to think out a plan to proceed.

    The plan was easy. Glass of water in the hand, and then just walk around the whole area trying to get a grip of the situation. And that was not easy. I admit I did not count, but at my opinion there where girls everywhere. I felt the male:female ratio something like 1:3.

    After a while I felt like the fox in an english fox hunt. I had to escape somewhere, and the first idea was the easiest. The smiling girl by the bar showed to speak absolutely excellent english. And with all good advices read on this forum, I invited her to one of the sofas to see what type she could be.

    Maribela (or Mariela) 23 years from Rumania. Around 170 cm, A-cup, dark long hair. Very slender body. She was talkative and enough GFE like to after some 10 minutes force me to invite her to a room. No trouble to find a free one. I now have to admit that I stick to the very precausius guy's. I asked for cover even for the BJ. On the other hand, the difference is not that big to my opinion. Maribela has a nice soft technique for the BJ and after a while I had to ask her to stop. Time for a missionary. More than one week without sex had it's influence - would I last half an hour? Short break saved the situation and then time for doggy. She has a tight pussy, but luckily my frend below kept in shape. Five minutes later I had to fill the condom.

    Time for a short recover. Went to check in at the hotel and back againg around 4 pm.

    Next encounter called herself Darling. Dark brown body, firm and very soft skinn. Around 25 i guess, 165 cm, short hair (3 cm), A-cup and said she was from Haiti. Unfortunately her english was very poor, and my German is really not up to shape. This time we went almost directly to a room. With the language difficulties there was no idea to spend time on something else. This girl has an absolutely outstanding BJ technique. Real depthroating. With all these nice ladies I decided to follow the old chinese rules, sex according to Tao. You should have sex several times per day but keep your "ching". So, we kept on fucking in several positions and I finally explained to her that I didn't want to finish. Even that was not easy to explain in english. IMHO her soft but firm body, and not to mention the BJ, is absolutely worth a visit.

    The good thing with Tao is that the member below is always ready. So when Lissy, 175 cm, just over 20, slim with A-B cup, long brown hair from Moldavia approched, he was immediately part of the game. Off to a room. We managed to find the last free one. This girls obviously like more tough times. When she was performing a BJ I started to give her massage on the pussy with my right thumb. All of a sudden, she sat up and pressed herself down on my thumb into the bottom. The following half an hour I must have lost two kilos just swetting. I was not able to pump hard enough, she just wanted even more. When the half hour had passed, everything in the room was wet. When she left me by the safety box, she smiled and asked me to come back when I wanted to finish. I wonder if I survive that.

    Time had now past 8.30 pm, and the last encounter forced some relaxation. During the evening I had now and then seen a very nice girl, around 25, dark hair to the shoulders, 165 cm, A-cup with piercing in the left nipple. She had the spanish or italian look, and a great smile. Now she was sitting alone by the bar, so I had to take the opportunity and approached her. She didn't speak english. Not one single word. Shit! But I didn't care, this one I have to come closer. We went to one of the sofas and my 20 year old school german was what I had to rely on. She showed to have a Dutch mother, Italian father and was born in Cologne. Think she called herself Cissi. The Italian father explains the look. She also showed to have a piercing i the tung in the navel and even at the pussy. I hate piercing, specialy in the tung, but I couldn't care less in this case. After a few minutes she was sitting in my knee whith her brest in my mouth and and giving massage to my extremely hard erection behind her back. I didn't care about all the watching people, I don't know anyone here. After maybe 10 minutes we went to a room. BJ was maybe not her best game, but the rest..DFK, smiling and 100% GFE attitude. This one you could fall in love with. Half an hour passes quickly. Still following the Tao rules, we left the room together and had a shower outside. She said she was leaving for the night at 10 pm, and I decided to do the same.

    This my first FKK visit was 100% satisfying. I didn't have to be at the airport until 4 pm Monday, so I will try the club even earlier when I check out from the hotel. I come back with a report about Monday

  12. #560
    Thanks for the report Shag. Always nice to receive fresh reports on Oase!

    Tell me: Saturdays can get croweded at Oase. When you were there did you observe long waits for rooms? or did the "garden aspect" relieve the pressure on the indoor rooms? I remember visiting Oase with you last Nov. when, due to the winter months, all the action was inside so there tended to be a back-log of rooms at times. Was this the case during your visit or was it better?

    Also, how many (roughly) Russian girls were there? Any new Lithuanians or Latvians?

    Thanks again, Shag

    Ortos (ST)

  13. #559

    Warning: Chick with the dick

    Do you guys know that there is a chick with the dick (or used to have a dick) working at Oase? I never read any report on this. So, here is my warning.

    This chick is very skinny, with the Southeast Asian look. I did not talk to her or even near her. She seems to have a implanted breast.

    How did I found out:
    I was talking to a girl at the bar, This chick(or man) passed by. I made a comment that she looks like a man (very small ass). The girl I was talking to confirmed that. I was surprised. How can Oase let such chick with the dick work there? later, I confirmed this with another girl. I guess that all of girls know about this.

    I saw ths guy was very happy after paying her at the bar. I wonder if the dude knew that he just fucked another dude.

    If that's your thing. more power to you.

  14. #558

    Oase 10th September - A brief report

    Well here I am, back in routine , after a great visit to Oase on Saturday.

    The day started with me unexpectingly bumping into Cordelia whilst we were both making our way to Frankfurt. It was nice to see you again Cordelia, sorry I didn't get chance to say goodbye before we got separated in the crowds, enjoy your vacation!

    Myself and the other 3 members of the Shagmaster crew descended on Oase at around 12 noon and , as expected, it was fairly quiet, but still a nice selection of girls around.

    I started my activities with a Russian lady. I'm sorry but I forgot her name , however, I'm sure I have seen her around before, so if I do the description, perhaps someone can provide the name. She was tall, late 20's, very short black hair, nice smile, nice pair of firm boobs. She was an excellent choice. Great unhurried session in the room.

    Afterwards I went to find the other guys and discovered that they had found the indoor hot tub, next to the swimming pool. Apparently it was pretty hot in there and the one guy decided to get out and get straight into the pool. However he didn't just ease himself into the pool, apparently he threw himself straight in with a resulting huge splash, which, was unfortunate for the poor guy who was walking past at the time and caught the brunt of the wave of water. !! If you were that person, can he apologise again?

    Round 2 for me was with a Hungarian girl called Sissy. Around 24 years old, brunette with a ponytail, nice pair of natural boobs and a pierced tongue. What a great session I had. Very attentive with no rush and a nice chat in the room afterwards. She does not kiss, but had informed me of this before we went to the room.

    Caught up again with the guys who were chilling out on the sunbeds outside. We were talking amongst ourselves , when the peace was shattered by very loud moans and groans coming from a guy who was situated in that secluded spot outside , that is reached by the steps next to the hot tub. Then it went quiet and then the loud moans again. We all found it quite amusing, I just hope the guy WAS actually enjoying himself!

    Round 3 for me was with the recently talked about girl from Venezuela , Gabriela, no further details needed, she was as good as recent reports suggest.

    Whilst I was inbetween sessions, I had a chill out in the outdoor hot tub and found myself talking to two guys from France and a guy from Canada, it was definately quite an international gathering at Oase that day.

    Round 4 was my final session of the day, due to the fact that we had to leave for the airport at 8.30pm, and I opted for a repeat session with Sissy.

    To conclude: This was probably one of my best visits to Oase. All my sessions were great, even though I didn't see Maria of Spain there. The evening shift swelled the girl numbers to around 50 and although the place was busy by 7pm it didn't feel too packed. I have to agree with the recent comments about the changing rooms, sandals and the inside air quality though. My fellow travellers all had a whale of a time and insisted that I keep them informed of any up coming trips . There was plenty of action going on in the kino and on the outdoor love swings. There was the usual wait for rooms shortly after the evening food had been served and consumed, however this didn't last that long.

    I will probably return to the FKK pleasures next week, if only I could !! But a trip in November. Now that is definately possible.

    Cheers,

    Shagmaster

  15. #557
    Dedalus,

    Great report. Brings back memories. Like I said in my report a few posting back, I enjoyed Sunny in the Kino, on one of the beds in front of the screen. She is into this. And it also was my first time on one of these beds.

    I also agree with your points about the musty air and the terrible sandals. Since I just did ColA (see my post under "other clubs"), the contrast was staggering, with ColA being astoundingly clean.

    But still, this coming Saturday I will be back at Oase ... unless I hear that Andrea and Lana have come back from their vacation to work at World.

    euro

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