Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[EihTooms]

Don't know when you last visited Soi 11, but the several oily shops in front of Ambassador were gone in February. Those places used to charge 300-500 baht for the massage plus 1500 baht for sex. Lousy room, lousy service. There are still 2 or 3 shops closer to Sukhumvit, but my buddy couldn't get laid in those shops, he just got a poor massage. I haven't checked out other massage shops on Sukhumvit.

One of the massage shops closer to Sukhumvit on Soi 11 is Hollywood Waxing and Massage. Before the lockdown the girls would sit outside on folding chairs after about 7:30pm. Can't say I was struck by the irresistible attractiveness of any of them.

I never went in because I am definitely not a massage shop guy. But about a year ago I met a moderately doable girl on one of the dating sites who soon told me she works there. If she is any representation of the level of service you get there, it was abysmal. First it was No to everything; DFK, DATY, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay and of course BBFS. I assume the usual deal in the shop is a bad massage followed with a bad Hand Job. Oh, the horror.

I did eventually fuck her out of curiosity because she kept pestering me on Line to give her another chance every time she saw me pass by the place in the evenings. It got done but it was still abysmal.

[Nounce]

I am not sure if more than 50% of customers of oilies are locals / expats. I personally rarely hit massage shops now (before), it was like once a month. Mostly shops on soi 22 and 33. I have mentioned in my previous posts how I am so disappointed with the looks of massage shop girls, old or fatties. But I agree, when I am just want to get a massage and quick release, I go to oilies.

I have never seen any locals in the ones I frequent but that does not mean locals don't go to oilies. So it depends on shops. Japanese has magazines and web sites cover oilies. One example is g-diary. You won't even see farangs in many of the shops listed and never mentioned on ISG. Usually these and the ones owned by Japanese will have better service.

My observation is that MP business is good. Like 102 which is the more expensive one, the customer only have choice of 60 minutes or less during weekends, and there are other places eliminate the 2 hours option so they can serve more customers.

In the last few years, many start to offer more jacuzzi rooms and air mattress so it becomes more like soapy so they are taking business away from soapy

As for real estate, just my personal opinion, I want an address on Sukhumvit so I only look at those that are on Sukhumvit and there are many available. Bloomberg reported there are 100 K empty condos in Bangkok. The economy is hurting everyone including builder so they don't have advantage. Who else can you rent an old multi-stories building to that is doing well and utilize the whole building. If you view it from the landlord's perspective it is not a bad business in this case and you probably don't want to sell during economy downturn.

[Gargano19]

And many of us that use the shops are not the least bit interested in outcall. We are locals and want a place we can go to, take care of things, and leave. I would imagine that at least 50% of the business for oilies comes from locals. It's probably more.

I am not sure if more than 50% of customers of oilies are locals / expats. I personally rarely hit massage shops now (before), it was like once a month. Mostly shops on soi 22 and 33. I have mentioned in my previous posts how I am so disappointed with the looks of massage shop girls, old or fatties. But I agree, when I am just want to get a massage and quick release, I go to oilies.

[HorseTrader]

Soi 11 places are (were?) basically knocking shops. They aren't technically ripoff venues (you only pay what you agree to), but offer poor value and experience. You get a basic wham-bam quickie session in crappy facilities (no privacy, no proper shower) for a price that needs to be negotiated and typically ends up between 2000-3000 baht for FS when you count the massage fee. Now, wham-bam has its place, but I'd rather go to a low-end brothel where the deal is 100% clear, no bullshit, and pay 600-1000 baht for the same thing.

Not sure about other places, it's certainly NOT safe to assume every massage shop in a tourist area offers FS.

Don't know when you last visited Soi 11, but the several oily shops in front of Ambassador were gone in February. Those places used to charge 300-500 baht for the massage plus 1500 baht for sex. Lousy room, lousy service. There are still 2 or 3 shops closer to Sukhumvit, but my buddy couldn't get laid in those shops, he just got a poor massage. I haven't checked out other massage shops on Sukhumvit.

[Stykler]

Soi 11 places are (were?) basically knocking shops.

As you alluded to, they've gone.

[Crocodilexp]

But what if I walk into a little massage shop on Sukhumvit soi 11 or some other tourist walking street?

The type with a bunch of girls out in front. Will I be offered FS in those places?

If so what should I expect to pay?

If they are mostly rip off joints please let me know as I don't want to waste my time or money trying when I get there.

Soi 11 places are (were?) basically knocking shops. They aren't technically ripoff venues (you only pay what you agree to), but offer poor value and experience. You get a basic wham-bam quickie session in crappy facilities (no privacy, no proper shower) for a price that needs to be negotiated and typically ends up between 2000-3000 baht for FS when you count the massage fee. Now, wham-bam has its place, but I'd rather go to a low-end brothel where the deal is 100% clear, no bullshit, and pay 600-1000 baht for the same thing.

Not sure about other places, it's certainly NOT safe to assume every massage shop in a tourist area offers FS.

[ChoduMadan]

Though I am an Indian and prefer value for money, I don't like the places that are often visited by Indians because of their attitude (snobbish) towards sex and women. Farangs too behave the same way but in a suave manner. So I always prefer the places that cater to East Asian men who are generally mellow in nature. Once Kiss told me that a lot of Indian men visit Doki Doki every day. Earlier I used to get a premium feel whenever I visit Doki Doki. After that conversation with Kiss, it is just like any other place for me.

You seem to be real stupid. Just because you saw some Indians going. I guess indians visit every establishment in BKK. Soyou must never fly to Bangkok ever.

[Goatscrot]

Construction projects for commercial office buildings and condominiums may be questionable not only in Bangkok, but around the world. Financing for such construction projects is difficult to find and financial institutions may find it very hard to even survive after this pandemic "ends". Even the free flow of cash from China may find currency restrictions and business operations significantly impaired or even destroyed from the economic devastation that is upon us. So unless the people putting up a building have $100 million in cash somewhere, the likelihood of any major building projects coming up in a city near you will be zero.

Some very good points there. And hopefully that will work to the monger's advantage.

[Rodwint2]

The corner of soil 26 is prime for a high rise. Just a few meters away is a new office building going up. If the oilies are squeezed by new regs owners will gladly sell for the right price. Demand? Far less than it was just a few years ago. The places were struggling before COVID. Plenty of real estate? Do you know what commercial real estate on Sukhumvit goes for these days? Tulip is in the best location to make it, but again, it depends on gov regs and how long they will have to stay closed.

Construction projects for commercial office buildings and condominiums may be questionable not only in Bangkok, but around the world. Financing for such construction projects is difficult to find and financial institutions may find it very hard to even survive after this pandemic "ends". Even the free flow of cash from China may find currency restrictions and business operations significantly impaired or even destroyed from the economic devastation that is upon us. So unless the people putting up a building have $100 million in cash somewhere, the likelihood of any major building projects coming up in a city near you will be zero.

[Goatscrot]

Thailand's one of biggest USP is massage shops, specially among tourists. If they really fuck with massage shops, well it will be really bad. Most shops can't handle outcall model. Plus it just won't be as profitable, there will be lots of bait and switches here.

And many of us that use the shops are not the least bit interested in outcall. We are locals and want a place we can go to, take care of things, and leave. I would imagine that at least 50% of the business for oilies comes from locals. It's probably more.

[Goatscrot]

There's demand for this service and plenty of real estate around, if not that street, a different one. But also, how many landords want to completely tear those places down and rebuild? It would take a full rebuild to repurpose most of them.

They will survive. Some many close. Some may move. Some may stay the same.

Again this is all hoping that the govt just does't step in and ban them in some way.

The corner of soil 26 is prime for a high rise. Just a few meters away is a new office building going up. If the oilies are squeezed by new regs owners will gladly sell for the right price. Demand? Far less than it was just a few years ago. The places were struggling before COVID. Plenty of real estate? Do you know what commercial real estate on Sukhumvit goes for these days? Tulip is in the best location to make it, but again, it depends on gov regs and how long they will have to stay closed.

[BackpackBrian]

I know that I can get FS from the big soapy massage palaces like Poseidon.

Emmanuelle.

La Belle.

Etc.

But what if I walk into a little massage shop on Sukhumvit soi 11 or some other tourist walking street?

The type with a bunch of girls out in front. Will I be offered FS in those places?

If so what should I expect to pay?

If they are mostly rip off joints please let me know as I don't want to waste my time or money trying when I get there.

[GrapeMan]

I can't really see a way back for them. It's true, the government is going to start easing the lockdown next month but it will be gradual and massage parlours are likely to be the last places allowed to reopen given the unavoidable close personal contact. But they occupy prime real estate and rent has to be paid. Even if they do reopen how many customers will there be? The owners must be thinking of throwing in the towel.

There's demand for this service and plenty of real estate around, if not that street, a different one. But also, how many landords want to completely tear those places down and rebuild? It would take a full rebuild to repurpose most of them.

They will survive. Some many close. Some may move. Some may stay the same.

Again this is all hoping that the govt just does't step in and ban them in some way.

[Whoreman]

Full lineup is not available, only a few girls available for the moment.

They are communicating via Line, so try to find the Line account of the shops that you like (I only have Doki and Momo and they are both using Line to communicate).

Look at this site for more information about Doki:

https://snctmbangkok.com/outcall/

Momo website has today's lineup. I'm not that keen on incall especially now my condo is registering everyone and taking their temperature.

[Gargano19]

Then again I hear they're still running their outcall services and others like Doki Doki have temporarily transferred to that model so maybe that'll keep them going. Anyone had an outcall from an MP recently? Full lineup available?

Thailand's one of biggest USP is massage shops, specially among tourists. If they really fuck with massage shops, well it will be really bad. Most shops can't handle outcall model. Plus it just won't be as profitable, there will be lots of bait and switches here.