Angeles City

[RainMania]

Just one consideration. Economic availability makes a man more or less interesting in the eyes of girls. Both in AC and in the rest of the world. So the competition with K boy is won by playing the same game as them, "the ability to spend", and let me say that a little empathy with girls (which kboy lacks, can help a lot. For my part, I have planned a trip for the spring and with flight and hotel already paid in advance I will use my budget of around 10 k a day for everything else. I think it will be more than enough to spend 2 weeks taking advantage of beautiful girls whether they are bar girls what a freelancer. I conclude by saying that. If you want to win an F1 grand prix you have to compete with a Ferrari and not with a Fiat 500.

For 10 k pesos a day, you can easily outspend 1-2 k-boys. The problem is the other 5-7 k-boys they came to angeles with, and the other 5-10 k-boys that will replace that group once they hop on the plane back to Korea after their weekend visit. You as the lone westerner will always be outnumbered, outgunned and outspent, there's no two ways about it.

You will still be able to get freelancers galore, but the bar scene for the most part will be a disappointment compared to your last experience from 8 years ago. That doesn't mean you won't be able to barfine pretty girls from the bar, but the availability of the best girls in bars will not be in your favour.

[Medellin65]

Hey Mr Alfa Romeo / Lamborghini / Masarati man What are you going to splurge 10 k a day on? Why not drop it to 4 k and give me the rest? I'll write poems to Alberto Adcari and Nino Farina for that, and sing you Bella Ciaio, Bandiera Rossa and Arivederci Roma better than Pavarotti himself as many times as you like. Make it 7 k for me and I'll wear a knock off Italian football shirt for as long as you are in town. Either way, just enjoy yourself.

Ah Ah Ah. I'm sorry I can only offer a beer. I need other money for my pleasure. And for the pleasure of my little friend into the pants.

[MrHappyKat]

I've been offline since I sent in my TR's from my first visit last March. (Huge thanks to the rouges gallery here who provided me with info and advice!) But now I'm planning to return Feb 2024 for a full moth, mostly in AC.

I've been catching up on recent posts and see much (continued) discussion of the growing Korean presence and over consumption of "key" resources (I. E. : fresh pussy).

The stories all look similar: Some guy (a front man?) gets to the club early, tags the best hotties and pre-pays their bar fines. The chosen will then only pimp LDs until the van shows up to take them away for a few hours of easy-time with the Korean whales.

My question / idea: What if instead of trying to snag the bar girls before they get tagged, I just come in late, maybe after Midnight to enjoy those who return for an extra BF before the club closes? Am I over-simplifying the problem? Or should I plan on staying up late so I can, well, stay UP late?

[GreenBud]

if you had been reading the forum of late

I have. Your write-ups are such full of exaggeration, hyperbole, and BS.

koreans out number westerners by many many times

More BS numbers. You mentioned 20 X previously. What is many, many times? If you look at the official statistics of tourist arrivals, the Korean numbers are not that much higher than the US. The percentages between East Asian and Western countries are similar. I am not sure what the percentages are in Angeles. Hard to say. Probably more Koreans than Westerners. In the Korean Bars, majority are Koreans. In the ex-pat bars, majority are Westerners. More Koreans playing poker; more Westerners hanging out at the outside places (Kokomos, Envy, and Phillies). Probably more Koreans inside of Clark; a lot of them play golf. Once I was on Walking Street at 12 pm. Ya, it looked like a 20 X ratio; I think Koreans like to go out early. But around 9 pm, ratio is more even. Maybe slightly more Koreans; not sure.

Q Bar is not a Korean bar. Obviously, you've never been to the Q Bar.

most if these koreans / japanese / chinese are on big company expense accounts, as many have said is hard if not impossible to compete with the likes of honda / toyota and the likes expense card.

I doubt that's true. Some might be, but not enough to move the needle. How the hell would I or anymore know if they are on a business account. Ya, I know businesses in Korea and Japan pay for drinking among co-workers. But sending them on a sex-filled adventure to Angeles during the "Me too" movement. Especially the large corporations. I doubt that.

why fuck a 350 pound western guy

There aren't that many 350 pound guys there.

Westerners will not have trouble with any girls at the ex-pat bars. In the Korean bars, that's a different story. Not sure of the percentage. I've talked to a few of them. I don't think it's the tips. Koreans do not tip better than the Americans. The common answer is they are more culturally similar to the Koreans. Not sure. I haven't done enough research.

trike driver lover.

More BS that is repeated. I can almost guarantee you that no one (obviously not you) on this board knows any girl that will admit to having a trike driver lover / boyfriend. They may, but they will not admit to it. I often joke with the girls that they have a trike driver boyfriend. They ALL roll up their eyes and say "NO!" Same thing as the US. IMO, most girls do not want to admit that they want to seriously date a guy that works at McDonalds.

Have many times barhopped with western friends and its almost impossible to get any attention from the few younger, attractive, slim girls,

More BS. Just get the mamassan to point their green laser at the girls, and they will come and sit with you. They may not agree to the barfine, but they will definitely will want a ladys drink. Some girls are Korean only (especially at the Korean bars), some girls have sponsors / boyfriends (especially at XS). At the ex-pat bars, the girls will barfine with Westerners.

girls are fighting each other to sit with them,

No they don't; or at least not to the scale that you are implying. How are they fighting. The girls usually act aloof, usually not desperate. They act calm. The mamasan will usually bring over the girls, for the Koreans to choose.

Actually, the couple of times I remember girls going crazy is when 2 young (I guess good looking) White guys walked into the bar.

westerners are at the bottom of the list.

For some of the girls. I admit, I do not know the percentages. It's funny that some guys here have to find a reason for the Westerners not being the preferred choice.

The funny thing is that I agree with your sentiment in a lot of the areas, but not to the degree and exaggeration that you state.

[Jarango]

10 k a day for everything else Ferrari and not with a Fiat 500.

Hey Mr Alfa Romeo / Lamborghini / Masarati man What are you going to splurge 10 k a day on? Why not drop it to 4 k and give me the rest? I'll write poems to Alberto Adcari and Nino Farina for that, and sing you Bella Ciaio, Bandiera Rossa and Arivederci Roma better than Pavarotti himself as many times as you like. Make it 7 k for me and I'll wear a knock off Italian football shirt for as long as you are in town. Either way, just enjoy yourself.

[Medellin65]

On my messenger profile, on wapp and instagram I have at least fifty contacts: bargirls, freelancers, students, shop assistants, girls next door, ready to enter my bed for 2/3 k LT. Doesn't this seem like a sufficient number? Tell me where in your country you have so many options, without considering the barfines that can be done and fishing in shopping centers or discos.

Of course, Angeles is no longer what it once was but the whole world has changed and we have had to adapt everywhere. 10/12 years ago I took a young and beautiful pinay to bed with 1500 pesos. But it's true that I earned 1200/1300 euros a month. Now I earn 3000/3500 so the proportions remain almost unchanged if I have to pay 4000/4500 pesos.

[NapaSlapper]

Just one consideration. Economic availability makes a man more or less interesting in the eyes of girls. Both in AC and in the rest of the world. So the competition with K boy is won by playing the same game as them, "the ability to spend", and let me say that a little empathy with girls (which kboy lacks, can help a lot. For my part, I have planned a trip for the spring and with flight and hotel already paid in advance I will use my budget of around 10 k a day for everything else. I think it will be more than enough to spend 2 weeks taking advantage of beautiful girls whether they are bar girls what a freelancer. I conclude by saying that. If you want to win an F1 grand prix you have to compete with a Ferrari and not with a Fiat 500.

Not so easy, if you had been reading the forum of late you would have seen many members posts explaining why koreans are the girls go to choice, including koreans out number westerners by many many times with 500 more arriving every day to replace those that have just left, most if these koreans / japanese / chinese are on big company expense accounts, as many have said is hard if not impossible to compete with the likes of honda / toyota and the likes expense card.

But mostly money only plays a small part in who an angeles bargirl chooses, why fuck a 350 pound western guy who is old enough to be the girls grand daddy high on viagra and wants porn star perfomance all night long into the morning when she can choose a slim much younger korean that takes her out for food, clubbing, pays the same or more and many times does not even fuck the girl or is happy with a quick 1 pop and release so the bar girl has plenty of time to go back to the bar and secure a 2nd or 3rd paying asian punter, or just go hang with her pinoy husband / trike driver lover.

Have many times barhopped with western friends and its almost impossible to get any attention from the few younger, attractive, slim girls, barhop with koreans and the girls are fighting each other to sit with them, it is what it is, unfortunately girls choose their bed partners if at all and the westerners are at the bottom of the list.

As always, good luck with your your trip and plan to out spend the asians and please post a few photos and trip report.

[NapaSlapper]

Just one consideration. Economic availability makes a man more or less interesting in the eyes of girls. Both in AC and in the rest of the world. So the competition with K boy is won by playing the same game as them, "the ability to spend", and let me say that a little empathy with girls (which kboy lacks, can help a lot. For my part, I have planned a trip for the spring and with flight and hotel already paid in advance I will use my budget of around 10 k a day for everything else. I think it will be more than enough to spend 2 weeks taking advantage of beautiful girls whether they are bar girls what a freelancer. I conclude by saying that. If you want to win an F1 grand prix you have to compete with a Ferrari and not with a Fiat 500.

Not so easy, if you had been reading the forum of late you would have seen many members posts explaining why koreans are the girls go to choice, including koreans out number westerners by many many times with 500 more arriving every day to replace those that have just left, most if these koreans / japanese / chinese are on big company expense accounts, as many have said is hard if not impossible to compete with the likes of honda / toyota and the likes expense card.

But mostly money only plays a small part in who an angeles bargirl chooses, why fuck a 350 pound western guy who is old enough to be the girls grand daddy high on viagra and wants porn star perfomance all night long into the morning when she can choose a slim much younger korean that takes her out for food, clubbing, pays the same or more and many times does not even fuck the girl or is happy with a quick 1 pop and release so the bar girl has plenty of time to go back to the bar and secure a 2nd or 3rd paying asian punter, or just go hang with her pinoy husband / trike driver lover.

Have many times barhopped with western friends and its almost impossible to get any attention from the few younger, attractive, slim girls, barhop with koreans and the girls are fighting each other to sit with them, it is what it is, unfortunately girls choose their bed partners if at all and the westerners are at the bottom of the list.

As always, good luck with your your trip and plan to out spend the asians and please post a few photos and trip report.

[Medellin65]

Wait a moment, you have not been in angeles for over 8 years but know what's going on in angeles as of now? The mind boggles.

Take a few moments to read through the forums last 50 pages, I think you will find that anyone who has been in Angeles recently and have made a report are all saying quality is well down, drinks only girls and Asian only girls are way up, runners, short time only girls are alive and well, many of the slim ok looking girls only barfine with Asians or not at all, its all there to read if you take the time.

The blanket statement of Angeles city has something for everyone used by a certain couple of angeles appologists does not stand up to reason, why, nobody knows another guys taste in women so cannot speak for others in reality.

Maybe making a recent visit and seeing what is actually going on will have you singing a different tune, I await your trip report.

Just one consideration. Economic availability makes a man more or less interesting in the eyes of girls. Both in AC and in the rest of the world. So the competition with K boy is won by playing the same game as them, "the ability to spend", and let me say that a little empathy with girls (which kboy lacks, can help a lot. For my part, I have planned a trip for the spring and with flight and hotel already paid in advance I will use my budget of around 10 k a day for everything else. I think it will be more than enough to spend 2 weeks taking advantage of beautiful girls whether they are bar girls what a freelancer. I conclude by saying that. If you want to win an F1 grand prix you have to compete with a Ferrari and not with a Fiat 500.

[Dg8787]

For a number's check, you went there way too late. You seem to double down on your mistakes, like the "Lolipop" example.

I say with 98% probability, you are not even in Angeles now.

I would double down on the balance of 2%. It's just another Ed rerun.

[DzikaBomba]

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[Jarango]

I'm an Italian guy, I apologize for my rather basic English and I hope I was able to clearly explain my thoughts.

I thought your English was quite good. As were your comments.

[NapaSlapper]

Saturday night bar hop and thoughts.

Was determined to have a Saturday night in for a change but a couple of expat old friends were having a bit of a farewell drink on walking st before they departed for good for pastures new in another part of asia, it seems as of late many old friends are either passing away or leaving angeles.

We met up in lollipop bar 7. 00 sharp, was fairly quiet for a Saturday night for both punters and girls, stayed for 2 drinks and headed to Hi quality bar.

Hi quality bar, about 15 girls,5 Asian customers and us,1 girl cute, called her over for drinks, this bar has special beer prices at 95 peso all night, lady drink 300 peso.

Wanted to try dragons den bar again as member green bud was insisting lots of lookers and cold beer, sorry to say we found none of that here, out of 30 odd girls 3 or 4 girls were cute, obviously already seated with angeles new kings (the Asians) beer although had been in the fridge had not been in there long enough and again was no where need cold enough, not sure why other bars can sell ice cold beers but this bar constantly cannot.

Boys wanted to carry on barhopping, I was bored of bar hopping and made my excuses and headed home to my live in girlfriends arms.

Its true to say that most expat guys that live in or nearby angeles all get bored of the low quality bars and therefore have a wife or a live in lover, yes if something young, nice looking and slim is available in the bars then we take it, if not we either return home or contact one of many regular non bargirl lovers for fun, one way or another, whether bar girl (only some times due to quality issues and girl nationality preference issues) ,non bar girl lover, live in girlfriend or wife no need to be going without pussy for those of us who have made near angeles our home and have invested the time and effort to have many options.

[NapaSlapper]

I'm an Italian guy, I'm not a newbie in AC even though I haven't been there for at least 8 years and many things have changed since then, but many things have remained the same and won't change for many, many years. The first of these is the more than sufficient quantity of girls ready to open their legs in exchange for an acceptable and much lower price than in Europe or the US. The second is the possibility of getting girls not only from bars but in many other ways and often more convenient than barfine. In Angeles there are girls for all tastes and wallets. I got to know him very well.

"Bar life" world, my ex was mamasan on Fields Av. At the now defunct "one eyed wench" bar. In six years of relationship she showed me the various aspects of life in bars and the modus operandi. It is clear that in the last 10/15 years prices have increased for both barfines and freelancers and also for LDs but it is also true that in the same period the ability to spend for us Westerners has increased in the same way. I wouldn't worry too much about korean boys. There are plenty of girls available in AC. I beg to differ with the fact that girls don't go with Westerners otherwise they would be excluded from the kboys. The kboys will also leave AC after 2 or 3 weeks of vacation. So why give up staying with a western boy if the kboy will no longer be there in 15 days. Finally if we want quality, first class girls with 8/9/10 bodies. We need to have the strength and courage to compete with the yellow faces not just using money. 8/9/10. Or 6/7. It's not important, what matters is that it makes you feel good, that you are satisfied, whether you take her out to dinner or take her to fight on the mattress in your bed.

I apologize for my rather basic English and I hope I was able to clearly explain my thoughts.

Wait a moment, you have not been in angeles for over 8 years but know what's going on in angeles as of now? The mind boggles.

Take a few moments to read through the forums last 50 pages, I think you will find that anyone who has been in Angeles recently and have made a report are all saying quality is well down, drinks only girls and Asian only girls are way up, runners, short time only girls are alive and well, many of the slim ok looking girls only barfine with Asians or not at all, its all there to read if you take the time.

The blanket statement of Angeles city has something for everyone used by a certain couple of angeles appologists does not stand up to reason, why, nobody knows another guys taste in women so cannot speak for others in reality.

Maybe making a recent visit and seeing what is actually going on will have you singing a different tune, I await your trip report.

[Medellin65]

I'm an Italian guy, I'm not a newbie in AC even though I haven't been there for at least 8 years and many things have changed since then, but many things have remained the same and won't change for many, many years. The first of these is the more than sufficient quantity of girls ready to open their legs in exchange for an acceptable and much lower price than in Europe or the US. The second is the possibility of getting girls not only from bars but in many other ways and often more convenient than barfine. In Angeles there are girls for all tastes and wallets. I got to know him very well.

"Bar life" world, my ex was mamasan on Fields Av. At the now defunct "one eyed wench" bar. In six years of relationship she showed me the various aspects of life in bars and the modus operandi. It is clear that in the last 10/15 years prices have increased for both barfines and freelancers and also for LDs but it is also true that in the same period the ability to spend for us Westerners has increased in the same way. I wouldn't worry too much about korean boys. There are plenty of girls available in AC. I beg to differ with the fact that girls don't go with Westerners otherwise they would be excluded from the kboys. The kboys will also leave AC after 2 or 3 weeks of vacation. So why give up staying with a western boy if the kboy will no longer be there in 15 days. Finally if we want quality, first class girls with 8/9/10 bodies. We need to have the strength and courage to compete with the yellow faces not just using money. 8/9/10. Or 6/7. It's not important, what matters is that it makes you feel good, that you are satisfied, whether you take her out to dinner or take her to fight on the mattress in your bed.

I apologize for my rather basic English and I hope I was able to clearly explain my thoughts.