Pattaya Reports

[NRock]

IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.

A few weeks ago, I entered Baccarra twice on 2 different nights. There was absolutely no seats available on the first level. I left; didn't want to go upstairs.

I also went to Sensations once. It was packed. I was placed next to an existing customer at a table.

Discrimination against Indians and other dark-skinned South Asians is well covered as it relates to the clubs. Another layer is that many of the best girls don't want to go with Indian customers because of either bad prior experiences (probably just a few bad apples) or heard rumors from their friends. I found out most of this relates to the belief that they smell bad, no matter how many showers they take. Why take the risk and lose face with among their friends when there is always another Japanese customer waiting.

A new negative bias I uncovered is that many of the girls now absolutely hate Korean men from Korea. Apparently they have a reputation of (1) refusing to pay if they don't finish but go over an agreed ST limit, and (2) are very rough in bed with excessive hair-pulling, spanking, etc. This view was confirmed by several girls across GoGos, soapies, Thermae, and clubs.

[GreenBud]

Aren't these the same clubs that caters to Japanese (i don't know, i eschew them all). In that case it could be their customers indirectly causing the discrimination, not the whim of some Thai.

IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.

A few weeks ago, I entered Baccarra twice on 2 different nights. There was absolutely no seats available on the first level. I left; didn't want to go upstairs.

I also went to Sensations once. It was packed. I was placed next to an existing customer at a table.

[Axiata]

LOL, I am quite a bit older than you Mr. Ent. I roll quite differently, probably to the point of being weird (from fhe POV of most guys on this board) .

But, I am disciplined when at Insomnia. I avoid regulars, obvious go go girls who are there to unwind, or Soi 6 girls. I too avoid girls in groups. And I avoid 9's and 10's (although I think I've only seen 2 10's there over several months.). And, I usually never get there before 1230 and usually stay until at least 4/5 am.

Remember I usually stay for at least 1 month. So, I am never in a hurry and I am very patient. And, I am fairly good observer and analyzer of people (I think).

And since I am quite picky, when I find one I like I usually hang with them for 3-4 days. So, I am on the opposite end of the spectrum from someone who likes go go girls or Soi 6 girls. I am not interested in doing many, just a few that I like for several days each. So, my goals are quite different. I am looking for girls I would like to be with for several days. The key question being would I want to be with this chic for several days and nights. I would not recommend my approach to anyone else, cause it is quite off the Wall.

I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month. I doubt too many other guys would have any interest in such an approach in Pattaya of all places. And all focused on Insomnia pretty much all the time.

However, specialization has its advantages. Learning and iterative approaches for 1 whole month allows me to focus on one set-up / design and location.... and most importantly enjoy the music, dancing and the ambiance. Cest la vie. Sometimes I get lucky and many nights I leave alone! I never ever settle. LOL.

Enjoyed reading your post. We all look for different things when on tour. I try to do all that is on offer, clubs, bars, Soi 6, soaps, gogos. My last trip to Pattaya I mixed numbers with seeing one girl 4 times. However I also have done the 3 full days with a girl as well as taking girls to a resort at other times. All offer something different and that adds to the fun of the tour. I have been touring for many years in a lot of places and the girls faces and names have all faded over time. But the good thing about places like Pattaya is that there are options for everyone at different price points and quality. We are all different as are the girls so whatever works for us is our business. Some of us like the numbers game and some like a more relaxed pace. Vive LE difference!

Happy Hunting.

[Old New Guy]

Hopefully the blanket ban from clubs like Baccarra, Peppermint and Sensations does not spread to other gogos and soapies but for how long I wonder having seen the hordes in person.

Aren't these the same clubs that caters to Japanese (i don't know, i eschew them all). In that case it could be their customers indirectly causing the discrimination, not the whim of some Thai. Anyway, if you go back few pages there are the postings about white guys being ignored by stuck up biatches that prefer Japanese or Korean men because they pay more and fuck less. So better to have stayed out, spared the frustration and not have dropped a dime in these places.

To tell the opposite type of attitude, early hours today (it was really a slow night everywhere) I watched a cutie with great legs decline a couple of guys in Red Car. So I went to her and joked about that, she said it was because their opening line was "how much", which she dislikes and I agree that is so stupid and unnecessary. Some men can't tell the game difference between a disco and Soi 6, and much less between women in the same place. Another good thing about Red Car is drink prices, compare 110 baht to 160 in Lucifer, and no discount card BS. We then had dinner in a bagarid restaurant which I've mentioned before, then to my room. She was sweet and aroused, perhaps we had not the greatest of chemistry (but we both enjoyed a long pumping doggie style) or we were both tired, so we fell asleep and skipped the morning shag, that's OK even if not recommended, just like skipping breakfast. Around 10 am she left, I gave her 1 K and a ride to the nearest mototaxi stand. No money or time commitment had been mentioned before, all happened with the most friendliness, like it should be even when the experience is not stellar.

[Haven123]

I'll write up the best moments for sure; soon!

And, I don't blame them. We Indians have done ourselves no favors. Just expected that a few well dressed Indians may have been treated differently.

Hmm. We were turned down at Windmill as well. Maybe the weekend rush.

Thanks for the tip!

That's what it's worth, around a 1000 baht. Unfortunately, we had booked online before we got here. Cancelling and re-booking would've been a pain.

Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.

I too feel for you guys. You seem like decent folks with good money to spend. Did you guys try the LK metro area bars?

Some of you may know folks who have the ability to just buy out some of the walking street bars? I think then the others will think twice.

I guess complaining to the Indian Embassy in BKK or writing to the Prime Ministers office. About the discrimination. Is out the question? 😈.

And I suppose you can't deny Thais access to the go go bars in India? 😂.

Sorry, seeing that you guys at least aren't up in arms about it, I thought I'the try to make light of the situation. Next time approach the bars with each of you waving 30 k baht, in each of your hands, as you are about to enter. Seriously. Heck it's just $600 .

If it's any consolation, I've been turned away from clubs in NYC (when I was in my 20's and worked in Wall St and went wearing a pin stripe suit (because I was not good looking enough and did not have a girl (they try to manage the guy- girl ratio) and last month in Madrid, Spain, because, I think, of my age (both places also had a significant cover charge to enter). But I found another that was no 2 in Madrid that let me in with a promo coupon! So, you are not alone! Go to Brazil man. Or Colombia.

[NickMehta]

Looking forward to read your rest of the trip reports as well.

I'll write up the best moments for sure; soon!

Until Thais learn to differentiate the few good eggs vs the mostly bad eggs, it will be a tough time for Indians because of the stereotyping.

And, I don't blame them. We Indians have done ourselves no favors. Just expected that a few well dressed Indians may have been treated differently.

We had a good time at CH and Windmill..

Hmm. We were turned down at Windmill as well. Maybe the weekend rush.

That's an awful lot for an hotel in Pattaya. There are discounted two-bedroom villa around the same price. Get an high-rated Hotel or serviced apart around Pattaya Klang, Pattaya Nua, or just across Sukhumvhit for about 700 Baht. Add 150 a day for a motorbike rental and you will be on WS in 3 minutes, and off the hands of motorbike Taxis.

Thanks for the tip!

Nick, thanks for the report, especially on PP Massage since I've been meaning to check it out again.
You can get plenty of nice hotels around Pattaya for under 2200 baht. Camelot rooms should run under 1200 baht taxes included.

That's what it's worth, around a 1000 baht. Unfortunately, we had booked online before we got here. Cancelling and re-booking would've been a pain.

How many guys were in your group that was rejected entry into the gogo bars? Surprised to hear this since some of the gogo bars are completely empty of customers this past week. Sorry to hear about your poor experience.

Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.

[Haven123]

"I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month".

I hope to do 6-8 girls per day! But thanks for the insight into Insomnia.

Haha! You the man! I've never in my life (even as a teenager or when in my 20's) been able to come 6 tunes in a day! So.

Hats off to you! Very impressive!

At this point in my life I like to keep girls I like for 3-4 days or even 10 days. Last time in Pattaya, a girl in her mid 20's who I had originally met at Insomnia (an ex go go girl) and who had returned home to her family farm in Isaan took an overnight bus to come stay with me for 10 days, with no talk ever about money. Thai girls are very different if they are with you for days on end. And we'd still go party at Insomnia and do lots of other stuff together. And every time she went to the ladies room guys would hit on her because she was an 8.

The point being: not every single person on this board is looking ring up quantity / numbers and just sex. Although I'm not looking for a GF or any long term relationship. Just an extended GFE with girls who are pleasant to be with and have some degree of grace and class to be able to hang with them for several days. Most of them then want more. Like a real relationship and then I tell them no can do since I spend about 6 months a year traveling globally just for fun and pleasure (and the rest in the USA). And sometimes , like right now in the DR where I am , same thing . And I take one of my girls Id already met on a prior trip to an all inclusive resort for 3-5 days. Just like I am doing tomorrow when I will be checking in at a real nice all inclusive resort in Punta Cana. I might do the same on my upcoming Pattaya trip and hit an inclusive resort in Koh Chang for say 4 nights with one of the girls ...

There are many ways to have fun and enjoy life in its entirety or multi-dimensionally ( for those that like or want that ) ....

[Deeepster]

News mentions that the guy who mowed down a ton of people in front of Tukcom the other day was the owner of a Walking Street bar. Does anyone know which bar?

http://pattayaone.news/en/cost-drug-...attaya-driver/

JPs Bar is located on Soi Lucky.

[HectorG]

"I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month".

I hope to do 6-8 girls per day! But thanks for the insight into Insomnia.

[LoneWolff]

Looking forward to read your rest of the trip reports as well.

Until Thais learn to differentiate the few good eggs vs the mostly bad eggs, it will be a tough time for Indians because of the stereotyping. Or maybe they don't want to see the difference. Hopefully the blanket ban from clubs like Baccarra, Peppermint and Sensations does not spread to other gogos and soapies but for how long I wonder having seen the hordes in person.

Funny thing, the bouncer at Peppermint said members only and I asked with a smile. Can I become one? And he pointed out at the Indian restaurant right across the street and said 'member there'. Oh well! He is well trained.

We had a good time at CH and Windmill but only got inside after we acknowledged the mandatory drink purchase which is not bad really since you need a beer anyways. Who goes to a strip club and does not buy beer? That says a lot about my compatriots.

That particular night CH had lot of average girls and 2 very hot girls. Windmill had a younger crop of which about half were better than average looking. Living dolls had about a dozen average looking ones with zero customers inside except us and after a drink we came back to CH and I barfined one of the hotties, the other was gone by then.

Just back from a fantastic 5 day trip to LOS. Hope this helps someone!

Day 1.

Landed at Bangkok after a bumpy red-eye flight from Mumbai. Immigration lines weren't long, and I was fortunate to get the faster immigration officer. A few friends, in another queue, got the patient officer, who was rationing the passengers at snails pace. They only came through after I had collected the bags, and made my way back near immigration counters! 3 people in 20 minutes! Must be some record!

Ride to Pattaya (pre-booked cab) was also late. And, all 5 dudes were tired and hungry after waiting another 30 minutes. Would this be one of those forgettable trips? (Spoiler alert: it wasn't).

We were put up at the Camelot, being close to Walking Street was a good idea. Got the hotel cheap at around 2200 baht a night. However, the rooms are damp, musty and stinky. It's an older property, and needs an overhaul to keep with the times. It is frequently by the group tours, where an overnight stay does no harm to it's reputation. Would not recommend. Surprisingly, saw many Russian (or maybe, Uzbek) gals staying there. Course, Indian dudes would never get a second look from them, sigh!

Our first destination for the evening was the soapy massage places; one member of the group was a Thailand virgin, and we wanted him to have a guaranteed start! We dropped in at Honey 2 to start with. On my previous trip, this had been the best of the lot. Choices start at 2500, all the way upto 4000 baht. However, virgin dude was uncertain, and we decided to hop over to the other soapies, and check out the options. (Quick tip: Baht bus will drop you off free; they make 50/100 bucks for each customer they bring in. Your hand is marked when you enter). Anyway, off to Rasputin next, which usually has a bevy of beauties. Rasputin had a similar range - 2500,3000, 3500 and then a jump to 5000 - the models (who were really hot, BTW). Going with the flow we then went to PP Massage (nothing worth checking out here), and finally to Honey1.

I picked Tuktuk in Honey1 (# M106), and she was a good pick. Tall, shapely, big boobs (enhanced, but very well done). She was friendly, and chatted me up to the room. The soapy massage was phenomenal, Tuktuk took great care of every part of me. The usual - "you so big" comment was laughable though. Unfortunately, the sex was a bit of a let down though and got very mechanical. I take time cuming, and the mechanical nature was just a turn off. Tuktuk offered an extended HJ, but the damage was done.

We went over to Walking Street much later in the night; was probably 11 when we got there. Tried to get into some of the go-go clubs and were basically turned down (who needs a decent group of Indian dudes, yech! The worst reaction is when the folks at the door cross their arms as you get closer to the club; public announcement that you're not welcome. WTH!

Anyway, Insomnia was welcoming, and we dove in to get our drinks. Crowded as usual. Love the vibe and energy. Lots of great looking gals as well. We had to leave, as there was no place to stand, let alone sit. So, crossed the street to Hot Tuna Bar, which had a live band in action. The music was great (I forget the name of the band though), and we chorused our way through a few drinks.

Exhauted, and yet somehow not so, we headed back to the hotel.

[Christian G]

Any clinic will do or any recommendation? Do they perform a blood test to specify the amount of testosterone or one size fits all? It is only one shot, nothing else? Do you need an appointment, or do you just come in: "I want testosterone" and 5 minutes later it is over?

Here a clinic in the corner with Pattaya Klang and 3rd Road http://maximumclinic-pattaya.business.site/.

[Traveller747]

Sitting at the pool now, recovering from one of the top 5 sessions of my life last night. Met a bar girl from soi 7, we had some drinks together, played a few games and then I barfined her. 2000 LT. She is not the youngest or most beautiful, more the girl next door type, but easy on the eyes.

Back in my room it turned out she is an addict to DFK, just what I like. BBBJ, open for all positions and she needed it herself, as far as I can tell. She was insatiable. The big advantage when youself need a very long time to come: you can make the girl come several times. A nice reward for the ego. Finally she made me come with a HJ. Exhausted we fell asleep.

The next morning we started where we had stopped last night. A very memorable session and once again proof to my theory that the best looking girls are not the best performers.

[Traveller747]

Try getting a testosterone shot at one of the clinics. They are 400 baht. Did wonders for me they take a week or two to kick in so get it when you get here. I have same problem especially after being here a couple of weeks. Try putting some lube on your cock before putting the condom on and no it won't come off just don't do the base.

Any clinic will do or any recommendation? Do they perform a blood test to specify the amount of testosterone or one size fits all? It is only one shot, nothing else? Do you need an appointment, or do you just come in: "I want testosterone" and 5 minutes later it is over?

[Mogwai]

How many you guys try room service? My hotel has the best food / prices I've seen anywhere at 115 baht for Thai dish with rice. Quality and quantity of the food is really good. A great surprise.

I concur, hotel food can be surprisingly good at reasonable prices (compared to tourist places anyway). But not in every hotel and not all the time in my experience. Depends on the cook who is on duty I suppose.

[Old New Guy]

This was with a Red Car lady that I didn't see before, Dao, pretty face on a solid (not fat) body. She have man made hard boobs which do nothing for me.

That is what I meant. She sent these as good morning, without a comment.