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09-12-11 21:44 #8333
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by Adrenalinrush [View Original Post]
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09-12-11 20:48 #8332
Posts: 53Originally Posted by Adrenalinrush [View Original Post]
I applaud you for trying to change the image, but until the majority of the tourist make an effort to change, you will see this continue. This is more prevalent in Thailand than in other SE Asian countries is because they haven't seen the influx of Indian tourist.
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09-12-11 20:44 #8331
Posts: 67Originally Posted by Hedonian [View Original Post]
Regarding your Asia trip, I havn't been to Philippines, so cannot comment. For a first time visitor in Asia, I believe Thailand is much better than Indonesia, especially if you are white (girls available everywhere in Thailand and sex is more open). However, if you want better beaches and more things to do, I would recommend Phuket (there is a good balance of girls and sight-seeing). You can go through old reports on Phuket thread. And good thing is the place is big, if you prefer the loud nightlife and more women, stay at Patong, if you prefer a more quiet place, with better, cleaner beaches, stay at Karon / Kata. Place is quite scenic and beauitiful, get a bike and ride around the island, you will enjoy it. There are also a whole list of activities to do. Pattaya barely has a beach and it is quite pathetic, however purely for the girls it is a better place. I have found Koh Samui to be the most beautiful place I have visited in Thailand (with the best beaches) , but the girls there are limited (some beer bars near Lamai beach area).
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09-12-11 19:51 #8330
Posts: 2502Originally Posted by Hedonian [View Original Post]
Bangkok is definitely out: there is no beach life there.
Pattaya comes close to your ideal, I think. No shortage of SW for ST in all price ranges. The beach in Pattaya is very lively, somewhat too lively for my taste, but you can always jump in a baht-bus and drive to Jomtien where the beach is much quieter and cleaner.
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09-12-11 19:36 #8329
Posts: 67Racism in Indonesia
Originally Posted by Mr Enternational [View Original Post]
In our lives, at any given age or place, how many times have we had girls turn us down, it happens, it's a part of life, nobody scores always. But what is unacceptable is professional establishments turning us down due to color or race. Just my personal opinion.
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09-12-11 14:55 #8328
Posts: 81Pattaya / Asia vs Dom. Rep.
Originally Posted by Adrenalinrush [View Original Post]
I am trying to decide where to go in February where the weather is nice and plentiful of available women. I never been in Asia but have been in Sosua, DR, which I enjoyed very much. On my list is Sosua again, Pattay sounds interesting or any other Asian destination such as other parts of Thailand, Philippines, and after Adrenalinrush's comments, Indonesia comes on the list. Will check those threads as well.
What do you guys think is a good first destination in Asia for 2 weeks stay where there is beach or combination of city / beach with very good mongering scene? I look for GFE and reasonable prices. I typically do 3 to 5 STs of couple hours each per day. Is BKK / Pattaya that good first destination?
Adrenalinrush, you mentioned LT prices. How much is for ST?
Thanks all.
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09-12-11 12:19 #8327
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by Adrenalinrush [View Original Post]
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09-12-11 03:16 #8326
Posts: 678Originally Posted by Slackerslacker [View Original Post]
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09-12-11 03:13 #8325
Posts: 678Originally Posted by Tomjackin [View Original Post]
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09-11-11 23:50 #8324
Posts: 67Pattaya Visit Summary & General comments
Just completed a 10-day visit to Pattaya, have reported each day in fair amount of detail in previous posts, so will only state general observations and summarize my trip. Also, where applicable, I will draw comparisons with Indonesia (where I have more often mongered) , comparing Thailand to S. America or Caribbean would not be right (I just feel the chicas there are much hotter and better looking and provide better GFE). I am only making my personal observations, some may disagree depending on their past experiences, and they have full right to do so.
The girls : Although large number of girls are available (girl to customer ratio is extremely favorable) , I have noticed very few stunners in the go-go bars or beer bars. Maybe the hottest ones are looked after by expats or regular Japs or other tourists (noticed the stunners in various places always had company). Quality of girls at go-go's is definitely not as good as you can see in the higher end malls of Bangkok or Pattaya or at the airport at times. I am quite selective, at the go-go's, maybe I was finding 7-8 hot girls out of 100, in Indonesia, although the number of girls available is far less, I believe the percentage of better looking girls is higher (maybe 7-8 out of 40). I preferred the go-go's as I believe they are cleaner places (girls are checked regularly) , you can find some gems in beer bars, but you have to look much harder. Also, almost all girls put heavy make up to look better and hide their age, there have been so many instances where a girl has looked superhot from only 10 feet, but when I took a closer look, she looked quite bad really, poor light in some places doesn't help either. So always take a close look before deciding, sometimes the girls dancing are not close enough, in that case, if you fancy a girl but are not too sure, wait for her to finish her dance and sit down, then get up and take a good close look while going to the toilet. Also, the girls sitting with other customers always look hotter, when the same girl is on her own, she doesn't look that hot (normal human behaviour / psychology) I spent the night with a girl on 8 out of 10 nights. 2 were repeats. Overall attitude and service from the girls was good, however I noticed the 7's and 8's give a far better GFE, the stunner 9's have attitude as they know they are in demand, also if they are in their early twenties (instead of 18 or 19) , their services will be better. Thai girls generally are smaller breasted, so if you are looking for bigger breasts, you may have to look hard, even if you do find one with big breasts, chances are that she's fat or her face isn't that nice (just my personal observation). Indonesian and Indian women are in general much more bustier.
Go-go bars : Tried almost all of them, you have to go early to get the best girls (before 10 pm). The ones I found with the better looking girls were Baccara, What's Up, Tiger, Airport. My favourite hang-out place was Sweethearts go-go as they played my kind of music and had very friendly owner and waitresses.
Rates : I paid 2000 LT, except for the last night, where I paid 2500 (most girls will agree to this, some stunners may insist on 3000). Bar-fine is 600 in most places. 1000 at the better ones, some places barfine is 1000 till midnight then becomes 600 (in the Moon Club, barfine is 2000 till midnight, then becomes 1000). These are all go-go rates. Beer bar rates are 1500 to 2000 LT for girl and 300 barfine, although I never picked up from beer bars.
Freelancers : Many of them around, especially on beach road, they will make eye contact, some may even call out to you, however it is quite difficult to find the gems. Better looking freelancers are at the discotheques at night, I could see some cute ones, although few may not be available, as they are just a group of friends having a nice time, but no harm asking.
Weather : I was extremely lucky that it drizzled only twice for short periods when I was there (in 10 days). The day I left, and the subsequent day (yesterday) , its seems there was heavy downpour and some places were not accessible.
Soapies : Only went once to Sabai Room in North Pattaya and service was only average, cost 1800 for 1. 5 hrs (massage, soapy and one pop). Unlike 4 years ago, when I noticed some hot young girls there (even got their numbers and went out in their days off) , this time the ladies were much older and less attractive, checked out Sabailand too.
Racism : Like I've written in my posts, I was barred from entering 4 clubs (Alcatraz, Fahreneit, Happy go-go and Beach club) , despite offering to pay for 2 drinks upfront, on one occasion I even had a girl with me who I had barfined earlier, coloured folks please don't try these clubs, it will frustrate and upset you and can have a psychological affect and ruin your holiday, you can still enjoy at 90-95% of places. At Baccara, first time the guy observed if I bought a drink, after seeing me buy my drink and a lady a drink, he didn't bother me on the other occasions I went. It is sad but a fact of life. I have seen so many white guys in the last 10 days enter go-go's, take a round inside, check out all the girls and leave without buying a drink and some even misbehaving inside, I guess the percentage of Indians and Arabs doing this is more, and we coloured guys have to suffer due to the behaviour of few. These clubs don't want to check your passport, nationality, accent or behaviour, if you are not white, you will be told it's a members club and asked to leave, that too not politely. Having said that, I never found this racist attitude with any of the ladies I went out with, if you treat them well, they will reciprocate.
Food : Tried the seafood at King's and Nang Nual on WS, very good food, but expensive. Also had the seafood at the large seafood restaurant in the Arab zone, almost as good, but half the price. Most of the time ate a donner kebab outside my hotel (good value at 50 bahts) or a subway.
Hotel : Was staying at the LK Metropole in central Pattaya, wanted to stay at the newer LK Renaissance, but it was full during that time. Will post a detailed review in the LK Metropole thread.
Next visit : Will stick to Indonesia for the time being, since I know average Bahasa, which helps finding regular girls (I'm sure guys who know Thai feel the same way in Thailand). Also find Indonesian women slightly hotter (at least percentage wise). I found Pattaya too much in your face, may plan a trip to Thailand but to Phuket or Koh Samui where there are more things to do besides mongering, that too in the low season (when it is high season in Indonesia). The racism part at least for me tips things towards Indonesia, where all this is unheard of.
Some advise : If your trip is over a week, space out / plan your trip or you will burn out early with the sex and alcohol, it does takes its toll. 4-5 days in Pattaya is enough, beyond that will tire you, I was feeling drained during my last 2 days. When I monger in Indonesia, I bonk different women for 4-5 days, then go to Bali or Lombok for other activities (scuba, surfing, etc) and to relax for a week (with a girl if I really have found a nice one) , then back to Jakarta or Batam for another 4-5 days of bonking different women, then go home, that works perfectly for me.
I believe I have done my part and hope I've not missed anything useful, will report on my next holiday to Indonesia in January. Guys, thanks for your support and the invaluable info you have provided in earlier posts.
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09-11-11 11:25 #8323
Posts: 1391Originally Posted by Mr Enternational [View Original Post]
Maybe he insisted roughly that she suck his dick for 250 baht!
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09-11-11 06:54 #8322
Posts: 828Chichichi
You can buy a lot of clothes of good quality and very reasonable to low prices in Thailand provided you are of reasonable height and size.
If you are a tall and big Afro American or a heavy Caucasian guy you can forget it. At least for the brand name cloths. Thais are of smaller size. Eg their XXL is like Medium in the USA or Large in Europe. On the other hand if you fit in their sizes you can find good bargains especially during their sales. Start from the brand non imported names because you get better value and quality for your money.
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09-11-11 06:13 #8321
Posts: 22Pillow
Originally Posted by Tomjackin [View Original Post]
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09-11-11 06:09 #8320
Posts: 162Naw Chichi, don't bother with the passport, you can buy a cheap one there.
Seriously though, there is no cheap Sunblock, it is all imported, so it's a good idea to bring your favorite brand from home.
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09-11-11 06:01 #8319
Posts: 162Originally Posted by Rip Van Winkle [View Original Post]
I will attempt with great gusto to score lookers from gogos. I will report (with photos) later on my successes (or more likely failures) but I will not lose my resolve. Expect lots of photos from BR short timers, ha ha.