Pattaya Reports

[XXL]

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Maybe it would be better if he starts off saying that he is in Pattaya to establish himself as a serious immediate buyer instead of only saying how much, which many bullshitters are probably doing as well? They may even start lower than 2,000 if he establishes his locality first.

Well, my locality was there for any girl to see in my profile. I had a translation in Thai in my profile but I erased the Thai after someone advised to try and look like a clueless newbie, not like an old-hand who already knows something of the language.

Anyways, maybe girls I message cannot be expected to check my profile. What can they be expected to do then? Not much it seems.

[Mr Enternational]

But after you toss out the guys who are not even in Thailand, guys who are not in Pattaya, the guys who are just goofing around, the guys who have no extra money, are too shy or weird to meet or whatever, it definitely does not automatically translate into 100 eager customers waiting to meet and give her money for sex any minute now.

Exactly. But they still have to weed through all 100. And just because he asked about how much does not mean he is in Pattaya. Guys in all these threads go around dating sites trying to line up chicks for when they get to whatever town. It trips me out when they make a report saying she wants this much. Yeah but you are 8000 miles and 6 months away. It is smarter to try to get prices and negotiate when you have boots on the ground.

I have said before that if you call down to the car dealership they are going to tell you the sticker price. You are just a general inquirer. If you show up with a bag of cash you can pay much lower than that price given on the phone because you are a serious immediate buyer.

Maybe it would be better if he starts off saying that he is in Pattaya to establish himself as a serious immediate buyer instead of only saying how much, which many bullshitters are probably doing as well? They may even start lower than 2,000 if he establishes his locality first.

[EihTooms]

You give these chicks too much credit as if they are of the Monkey Paw school of deep penetrating thought. They are not out here using psychology on guys that they believe they are staying in guys' minds that they have not even talked to.

Have you seen these chicks' mailbox? The truth of the matter is that you are lucky if your mail is one of the ones they have chosen to read because they can get 100 in a matter of minutes. So it is not that they are trying to play with your mind or hype themselves up, as much as it is you getting lost in the shuffle. As for something being in an email, they can not even remember usernames and passwords to put their old Line on a new phone. Most that I have ever talked to have no clue as to what their email password is. Even I have the email when receive message function turned off and I don't receive one tenth of the messages that chicks on dating sites receive.

My bet is that girl won't get booked today for any amount of money even if she has 100 mesages in her TF Inbox. Or, if she does get booked, it won't be through TF. It will be from just walking around and reaching out to a potential customer passing by. At which point she very well might go for 700 baht.

I have eventually met many FLs who did exactly what that one did with XXL and the others in his screenshot are likely doing. They throw out a wide net, blanket that site and others with clicks or the first reply and then go back to helping their sister sell food cart noodles.

Funny thing is once I have coaxed and convinced them not to worry so much about how they look vs their pics and so on and to actually show up for that first session, from that day forward they are available to come over any hour of any day or night I Line them and tell them to come over.

And that doesn't count the amount of pestering I get from them every day, multiple times per day asking when they can see me again.

I am sure the 100 messages in their Inbox every day didn't suddenly stop after they had their frist session with me.

Unless Pattaya is wildly different than Bangkok in this regard, having 100 messages and replies in their Inbox might be good for their ego. But after you toss out the guys who are not even in Thailand, guys who are not in Pattaya, the guys who are just goofing around, the guys who have no extra money, are too shy or weird to meet or whatever, it definitely does not automatically translate into 100 eager customers waiting to meet and give her money for sex any minute now.

I doubt it even translates into 3 guys with money, time and the opportunity to meet today. And 2 of those guys are probably going to pick someone else if not all 3 of them.

[MonkeyPaw]

The screenshot below shows my latest messaged girls in the TF outbox.

It can be seen that only 1 girl out of 5 showed an interest. Her Line pics were a big turn off compared to the pic she had on TF so I ghosted her.

The other ones either didn't respond or didn't do so beyond tossing me an offer. My pricing policy is not to go higher than 1500 (ST) but directly to accept 1500.

Just like at the GoGo bars, there is a "game" to be played even on ThaiFriendly. And those who play it best, usually get what they want. And money is only one factor in this game. Hint: Some of the girls play the same game with you. This is not Soi 6 (XXL is Soi 6 aficionado) or GoGo bar where they have to sit and chat for drinks and commission and salary. So they don't need to get to know anybody. They also don't have that extra pressure from mamasan or the boss. If these girls are freelancing on their own, they will be more selective. I have a capture rate (response with price on ThaiFriendly of about 95% So out of 100 girls I message, 95 will give me a price. I have a kill rate (girls I fuck out of those who respond of 60% It goes lower because I start screening them after getting a price and their LINE and didn't like what I found. But anyways, yeah beef up your ThaiFriendly game.

P.S. The other ones you have on your screenshot are out of my specs in age, weight, or height.

[Mr Enternational]

But until she reads, finalizes, agrees to show up and then actually shows up for a session she knows she remains in your mind as this hotter, more idealized girl than she really is.

For others it's a constant delay to reply, delay to agree to move the conversation to Line (where there are more potentially damning pics and that scary video chat option), delay to video chat, long delay to show up and all that crap.

Btw, on ThaiFriendly she can read your short replies in full either on the Inbox messages option or on an email notification that you sent her a message without clicking on the message directly or even visiting your profile again. Chances are she has already seen your 1,500 baht counter offer and the request to give you her Line info.

You give these chicks too much credit as if they are of the Monkey Paw school of deep penetrating thought. They are not out here using psychology on guys that they believe they are staying in guys' minds that they have not even talked to.

Have you seen these chicks' mailbox? The truth of the matter is that you are lucky if your mail is one of the ones they have chosen to read because they can get 100 in a matter of minutes. So it is not that they are trying to play with your mind or hype themselves up, as much as it is you getting lost in the shuffle. As for something being in an email, they can not even remember usernames and passwords to put their old Line on a new phone. Most that I have ever talked to have no clue as to what their email password is. Even I have the email when receive message function turned off and I don't receive one tenth of the messages that chicks on dating sites receive.

[XXL]

The screenshot below shows my latest messaged girls in the TF outbox.

It can be seen that only 1 girl out of 5 showed an interest. Her Line pics were a big turn off compared to the pic she had on TF so I ghosted her.

The other ones either didn't respond or didn't do so beyond tossing me an offer. My pricing policy is not to go higher than 1500 (ST) but directly to accept 1500.

[Christian G]

The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.

175 cm and 60 kg are standard setups on TF if the girl does not update her profile with her real height and weight.

[EihTooms]

Let's come back to Earth and look at the timeline below from TF.

The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.

Only a percentage of girls I message on TF bother to reply. Another percentage of those who reply do not read my reply to their own initial reply. She was still online when I did the screenshot but she is now offline. It is difficult to say whether this particular girl was ready to accept my counteroffer of 1500 as she didn't even read it. Indeed had I accepted her offer of 2000 she wouldn't have read it either. She doesn't even qualify so far as a girl I can fuck ST for 2000.

Did you zoom in on her first TF profile pic to see what appears to be her (clothed) full body reflection in the mirror? Hard to tell in that pic. Might not be her. If it is, she might be a lot chunkier for her height than her stated stats suggest.

Not saying that is an immediate deal killer. To each his own and sometimes chunky or even quite chunky is still fun. Variety is the spice of life and all that. But until she reads, finalizes, agrees to show up and then actually shows up for a session she knows she remains in your mind as this hotter, more idealized girl than she really is.

That is a pleasant place to be for some of these girls and, even if they need the money, they often try to prolong the fantasy as much as possible.

On dating sites, some of them never leave that fantasy world where they are younger, slimmer, hotter than they are or as they used to be and it's all about wasting men's time checking out how much we might have been willing to pay them based on those outdated pics and stats.

For others it's a constant delay to reply, delay to agree to move the conversation to Line (where there are more potentially damning pics and that scary video chat option), delay to video chat, long delay to show up and all that crap.

Btw, on ThaiFriendly she can read your short replies in full either on the Inbox messages option or on an email notification that you sent her a message without clicking on the message directly or even visiting your profile again. Chances are she has already seen your 1,500 baht counter offer and the request to give you her Line info.

[EihTooms]

Maybe you're not lucky with ladies. Ladies never ask me to wear condoms! I'm just very nice guy with them, I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum and usually they let me fuck them bareback! And each time I come inside their pussy! They love that! They're just scare to be pregnant! LOL.

Yeah, that's probably it.

[XXL]

Let's come back to Earth and look at the timeline below from TF.

The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.

Only a percentage of girls I message on TF bother to reply. Another percentage of those who reply do not read my reply to their own initial reply. She was still online when I did the screenshot but she is now offline. It is difficult to say whether this particular girl was ready to accept my counteroffer of 1500 as she didn't even read it. Indeed had I accepted her offer of 2000 she wouldn't have read it either. She doesn't even qualify so far as a girl I can fuck ST for 2000.

[Gilolo]

Of course, I meant to type BBFS+CIP there 😁

Maybe you're not lucky with ladies. Ladies never ask me to wear condoms! I'm just very nice guy with them, I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum and usually they let me fuck them bareback! And each time I come inside their pussy! They love that! They're just scare to be pregnant! LOL.

[Danny Duck]

I feel it comes down to the situation the girl finds herself in at any given time, that is how badly she needs money and also how easy it for her to get tricks.

If because of her looks and age she gets very little action needs money she will go for 500 baht. Why go home empty handed especially if the "John' seems convivial and maybe offers to take her for a meal first. Also possible she could be a little horny.

On the other hand a good looking girl who can get easily 2 k plus because she checks all the boxes is extremely unlikely to fuck for 500. Not saying it hasn't ever happened and will be more likely where the John is familiar with the local situation but in my experience over 20 years here the old adage applies most of the time you get what you pay for.

You sure? You sure you sure?

500 is a lot of money. Even for a hot Babygirl girl.

[EihTooms]

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Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine.
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Of course, I meant to type BBFS+CIP there 😁

[EihTooms]

But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.

And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!

You know girls don t care now to use condoms!

But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.

And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.

I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.

And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.

"And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!"
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Yep, that would already be 100% more conversation in the room and in my bed about condoms than I am interested in having anymore with any ladies.

To me, it would be well worth 500-1000 baht more in an upfront negotiation to avoid even that much of a conversation about condoms in the room even if not negotiating anything at all upfront meant the girl would accept 700 baht for ST! LOL.

Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine. I assure you I am nice to every girl I take. But many ladies I have chosen have gasped in shock, stopped everything cold, put their hand over their pussy, closed their legs or wiggled away in retreat as far along as at the very moment of penetration after an otherwise lovely, happy and fun time together leading right up to it.

And then they have refused to change their mind for any amount of additional money. Well, I've never offered as much as 5,000 baht more or anything like that.

That includes many girls I have chosen in Pattaya over the years.

But, by far, most of my mongering in Thailand is in Bangkok. And, frankly, I think I can count on just the fingers and not the thumb of one hand the number of girls in Pattaya I see and engage with on a typical trip there that I would be inspired to go through any hassle at all to fuck for more than 700 baht as it is. So I am probably passing up dozens of offers each day I spend in Pattaya that would no doubt lead to a no conversation BBFS+CIP.

[Gilolo]

Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.

However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.

But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.

And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!

You know girls don t care now to use condoms!

But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.

And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.

I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.

And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.