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08-05-20 02:50 #48354
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Crocodilexp [View Original Post]
But why would you want to reward a self-portrayed "desperate for customers" Thai hooker with an extra tip for being silly or lazy enough to refuse delivering a simple CIM finish BJ for hundreds of baht more, probably 2 1/2 times more than nearby younger and cuter girls get for delivering it many times a day without long-term health problems?
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08-05-20 02:36 #48353
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Francesco24 [View Original Post]
So far I have only seen and met 3 girls I considered attractive enough to buy a drink for as prelude to possibly taking, each in different bars. And of those only one turned out to be genuinely available for barfine. For me, that is. Two were very cute, lobbied hard to get me to sit with them at their bar then clammed up and wondered away mentally and physically (to their cell phone, to the toilet, to another area of the complex, whatever) as soon as their drink hit the table. I never even bothered to ask about the barfine or discuss anything else about a session.
One, at the last bar directly on Soi 7 right before you get to Beer Garden, is still working there most evenings, still lobbying hard for me to sit, still hustling pointless Lady Drinks apparently. Another one just left the scene to get married. LOL. I see pics of her in a wedding gown on her Line Timeline.
A third one was very attentive and fun, the barfine was 500 baht I think and she delivered a very rewarding ST for 1,500 baht. Then she went kookoo emotionally and began pestering me multiple times every day to return to her bar to take her again. Way too nutty. When I pass by her bar now I try to limit it to a smile, wave and keep moving.
I am not one to make mental notes about exact costs unless they are a stand out in either direction. The barfine might have been 600 baht. I could not tell you exactly how much the LDs cost. But I know it was not so notably different on either count than normal. I mean, it wasn't 300 baht barfine and 90 baht for LDs vs 120 baht or anything like that.
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08-04-20 19:26 #48352
Posts: 1233Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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08-04-20 08:00 #48351
Posts: 51Penny Black on Soi Cowboy
I discovered a place on Soi Cowboy that has been mentioned before on the forum.
The place is called Penny Black. It's like right across Country Road bar at the beginning of the soi (Asok side). It seems to be the hotspot to go to for all the gogo dancers and freelancers after they finish their work in the bars. The place was packed with people around 2 am Saturday. The ratio was definitely more working ladies than the guys.
I found myself there after barfining one of the gogo girls on Soi Cowboy and I ended up partying there with her for some time.
I think this place is more for the partying crowd. The typical dance EDM / hip-hop music club vibe. If you're not into that type of scene, then you'll definitely not like this late-night club.
You could probably dance with a lady, negotiate pricing with the ladies, or I think it's even possible to get freebies there. I'll have to try to go there alone next time to see.
With the depressing quiet vibe that Soi Cowboy has nowadays, this was a change of scenery. A lot of people, lively, and everyone having a good time. Again, this was a Saturday. It could be less lively during weekdays.
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08-04-20 06:39 #48350
Posts: 411Major goings on at Nana Plaza.
Lots of shuffling among Bars.
No business so seems strange to commit now. Maybe owners giving space away.
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08-04-20 05:22 #48349
Posts: 195New bar complex in soi 7
Does anybody have any info (mostly on girls asking prices and I guess barfines) about the new bar complex at the corner of Sukhumvit and soi 7? I seen it in a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI4QzBCbzos&t=465s.
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08-04-20 04:09 #48348
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Crocodilexp [View Original Post]
I think she is attractive enough to take for little effort and small money, no problem, but I have honestly been so busy and always had either just finished with another girl or was heading back to my apartment or a bar to meet another one, so I never even had a conversation with this Sukhumvit lady about taking her, just smiles and minimal Hello And How Are You kind of chat in passing.
But yesterday I knew I had a free day today so this time when she hit me up to take her as I walked by I finally stopped to chat a bit more and we exchanged Line info. She had asked me how much I would pay her. I said 1,000 for short time, 2,000 for long time and she seemed delighted by the prospect. I said we can confirm tomorrow by Line about what time to meet.
So this morning about 9am she phone called me on Line asking could we please meet for short time or long time today, either one up to me, she would even come over as early as 12 Noon for an overnight long time.
I was fine with the idea but, true to my form, it was time to get a couple of critical issues cleared up before we set a meeting time.
Absolutely "NO!" to boom boom no condom. Absolutely "NO!" to BBBJ+CIM (I would have agreed to meet her for short time for the latter). I had to explain to her that what she is referring to as a "blowjob" is not really a blowjob finish. It is a handjob with some oral foreplay thrown in. It is possibly just masturbation with some oral foreplay thrown in based on her description for the limit of what she would allow.
That was the end of our budding new possible multiple repeat relationship for 1,000 baht per 1-2 hours or 2,000 baht for staying the night.
I wished her well and good luck going forward.
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08-02-20 04:07 #48347
Posts: 279Where's the beef?
This is true, except the BigMac sales only go up with those who already have a taste for the beef and special sauce. By the same logic, if a customer already has an acquired taste for "not that hot" girls, then they too will get more of his business of they drop the price.
I like expensive tenderloin but enjoy the occasional down market Happy Meal. So far I think there is a slightly better chance to get prime beef at slightly less cost. I'm just enjoying the buffet.
Originally Posted by DannyDuck [View Original Post]
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08-01-20 06:22 #48346
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
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08-01-20 05:44 #48345
Posts: 411Drop Big Mc Meal price a dollar guarantee sales go up.
Girl drop her price accordingly doesn't mean she will get more customers.
Catch my drift.
Many girls just not that Hot.
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08-01-20 01:31 #48344
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
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07-31-20 12:26 #48343
Posts: 1222Preception
I seem to one of the few regulars who is experiencing and enjoying a perceived change in the go go scene re lack of competition, reduced prices etc. I guess the difference can be explained by the old adage that all perception is relative.
When thinking about it the following cliches come to mind.
It all depends on how one looks at it.
Glass half full, glass half empty.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Different strokes for different folks.
Your mileage may vary (YMMV).
We see what we want to see.
On a different topic, the relationship between pricing and service and whether negotiating results in a change in attitude on the part of the girl I would say this has not been my experience. I"m not a cheap charlie but neither am I a chump. I know the going rates and don't overpay. Sometimes it's happened I like a girl and she quotes a silly price mostly out of habit because she sometimes gets a newbie to bite but when I smile and tell her "me not tourist" we quickly settle the deal. I will say that if out of shall I say out of necessity she has to accept a derisory fee then yes very possibly she will just go through the motions take her money and get out of there.
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07-31-20 02:44 #48342
Posts: 29I am don't fully agree, of course taxi, food market will not drop their price, but, landlord does, mine as personally drop of 20% my salary, electricity for most place is nearly free for last 3 months. Am not saying that is enough but what as mentioned before, what is better? No customers for 2-3 days? Or being reasonable asking less and having even just one per day? At the end that would bring roughly 24 kthb which is way more than the average salary, their room if alone (and many time they are not) is usually 3000/4000 thb and food as they only buy cooked food about 150 thb including their collagen drink from 7/11, means 4500 thb, so for about 8000 thb they have their roof and food. Electricity of course depend on the AC but now it cost nothing as government help on this, then phone is maybe 300 thb. So at the end taxi would be the big expense but now with grab a bike, from nana to On Nut that cost about 90 thb. So in 1 month I would say 10000 thb is the minimum they spend if no party and so on. So asking 1000 thb per guy would ensure more likely to make everyday money and pay enough for everything, but for sure they will not be able to save for the new Iphone that seems so important in their life. Just to finalize, those numbers I got them via a freelancer that I met quite often. After what I agree is they should be more open mind on what to do in bed, and for my case I always give a tip from 200 to 500 if she was great in bed. I don't say she has to say yes to everything to have the 500, if she doesn't want anal, fine, but the attitude and the way to say no will make the difference.
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07-30-20 18:51 #48341
Posts: 411Originally Posted by Tomasb [View Original Post]
Um. The Koreans and Japs are not showing up in droves. All the girls have left are Cheap Charlie's.
No offense. You know what I mean.
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07-30-20 18:24 #48340
Posts: 5472Originally Posted by Tomasb [View Original Post]
I am not surprised to experience and read reports about FLs on the street, in Thermae or in a go-go bar stubbornly refusing to budge very much on the going rate from normal times. In many ways, they just can't do that and still pay their bills. Especially if they might only get one customer per night or every 2-3 nights. Therefore, when a girl shows up on Sukhumvit Road, stands in Thermae or shows up at a go-go bar there is only so much she can cut from her going rate or she might as well pack it up and return to her province. Which I don't want her to do anyway.
However, there IS something in the P4P exchange that most girls working in Thailand can be much, much more flexible about than they have been in the recent past and that is a factor that, imo, is worth negotiating. Of course, that is the "for doing what in the room?" element of the negotiation. Which I feel is related very much to what I consider an improved attitude about their chosen method of making a living.
And, more often than not, once a girl who has never before expanded her horizons for what she is willing to do in the room discovers that her head did not explode after all, that she didn't die from farang jizz hitting the back of her throat and that being on a birth control regime and requesting to see the same kind of recent medical check document I can show her goes a long way to reducing to near zero most of the problems she would ever encounter while providing Real Sex/True GFE, she might very well keep those horizons broadened for the next customers by adding it to her list of available services. It might even be a matter of agreeing to a Long Time instead of a Short Time for the amount of money she must have to pay her bills this week. Where, wonder of wonders, she might discover she really can sleep pretty good next to certain customers after all. In other words, that element of the deal has more potential "sticking power" in terms of making a real change for the future vs just getting a discount today for what will surely go back to normal rates soon enough.