Bangkok Reports

[Member #4698]

girl was a very sweet angel faced cutie with long legs, slim body, a nice booty, perky firm breasts. After a couple of Lady Drinks, some determined lap dancing and cuddling, she answered my brief and direct interview questions positively. So with that I agreed to pay the 1,000 THB, agreed to pay her asking price for ST of 3,000 THB (after she agreed to my personal requirements as well, that is) and off we went. No rush in my apartment, were together and enjoying from about 10:45 PM to 1:15 AM and I was so pleased with how things worked out I went back to the bar with her afterwards and bought us another set of drinks. Well worth it IMO.

That was a greater amount of money than I generally spend for barfine and ST, but, as you alluded to, if it is something that you really want and it is right there for the taking, I'm happy to pay it. I am not going to walk away from the right girl with the right chemistry and, most importantly, the right answers to my interview questions for the sake of saving 500-1,000 THB on a given night. Plenty of other nights I can spend less, often much less, sometimes even nothing but the cost of dinner and taxi (with regular date girls around town for example). It all works out fine. And when this girl drops out of the scene, which seems to happen much sooner than it used to, I have no doubt a Line message from me will bring her directly to my apartment for 2,000 THB including taxi to and from for ST and that ST might easily extend into LT until the following afternoon.

Sounds like a nice night to me. I will keep my eyes peeled for more such reports about Enter Bar and other honky tonks I have not been to. There are never enough good Go Go's in my opinion. I can always enjoy one more to add to my repertoire. 4 months and counting before take off. Reservations all made although nothing is set in stone except the plane ride. Can't wait! It's going to be a marathon lollapalooza.

[EihTooms]

Bangkok. DAY ONE. Girl #2

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We sit and talk and eventually go back to my hotel (ok, yeah the $700 BF is annoying, I'm going all FL and negotiation for a few days), and she acts shy, but.

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LOL. I guess you're sticking with the $700 barfine report rather than amending it to 700 THB. $700 would be upwards of about 22,400 THB just for the barfine! So in that case I will be the first to crucify you for way, way, way over-paying. Especially since the barfine doesn't even include the amount you're going to pay the girl. And I am not a member of the Price Policel! LOL.

Ok, let's assume you really do mean to say 700 THB and not $700. That isn't a high barfine by today's standards. Not in many if not most Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy go-go bars. As was mentioned earlier, many go-go bars charge 1,000 THB or more before midnight for the barfine. In a few go-go bars there is a two-tier pricing for barfines and for certain girls it is more than 1,000 THB even after midnight.

I took a girl from Enter Bar on the third level of Nana Plaza a couple of nights ago and the barfine was 1,000 THB at around 9:45 PM. Enter Bar is a relatively new go-go bar that I believe is owned and managed by the same people as Billboard and Butterflies. Not positive about that but I have seen several girls rotate from one bar to another. For example, generally speaking, this particular go-go bar, Enter, has decidedly lesser girls in terms of attractiveness. But every now and then you can take a peek through their curtained doorway and spot a gem that would fit more naturally in, say, Billboard, but is working in Enter tonight. This girl was a very sweet angel faced cutie with long legs, slim body, a nice booty, perky firm breasts. After a couple of Lady Drinks, some determined lap dancing and cuddling, she answered my brief and direct interview questions positively. So with that I agreed to pay the 1,000 THB barfine, agreed to pay her asking price for ST of 3,000 THB (after she agreed to my personal requirements as well, that is) and off we went. No rush in my apartment, were together and enjoying from about 10:45 PM to 1:15 AM and I was so pleased with how things worked out I went back to the bar with her afterwards and bought us another set of drinks. Well worth it IMO.

That was a greater amount of money than I generally spend for P4P STs in Bangkok, but, as you alluded to, if it is something that you really want and it is right there for the taking, I'm happy to pay it. I am not going to walk away from the right girl with the right chemistry and, most importantly, the right answers to my interview questions for the sake of saving 500-1,000 THB on a given night. Plenty of other nights I can spend less, often much less, sometimes even nothing but the cost of dinner and taxi (with regular date girls around town for example). It all works out fine. And when this girl drops out of the scene, which seems to happen much sooner than it used to, I have no doubt a Line message from me will bring her directly to my apartment for 2,000 THB including taxi to and from for ST and that ST might easily extend into LT until the following afternoon.

[SexInStl]

Thinking, maybe I'm okay with one for the first night. A bit tired from traveling, I go and get my camera and do some filming around Nana Plaza. I walk thru the agressive ladyboys and stop in to look at some places I just never have got around to. Completely avoid Spanky's, in and out of Angelwitch. Just not into the whole leather, goth thing. Look around Sexy Night to see if the girl from back in May might still be there (she's not) and then into Billboard, which I didn't care for last time.

On the main stage, a girl, who looks like another girl I remember from Soi Cowboy in May. The complete opposite of the one I was with earlier, she is all natural, small breasted and I meet eyes with her a few times. She finally motions if I want to get a drink. I do. We sit and talk and eventually go back to my hotel (ok, yeah the $700 BF is annoying, I'm going all FL and negotiation for a few days), and she acts shy, but. What a cute little body. Barely 5 feet tall, she worries that she doesn't have a good enough body, because she's been away for three years having a son, but I think her body is fantastic. Small waist, just enough ass to matter, small natural breasts that show no signs of wear and tear (though her nipples are a little extended and soft, from breast feeding), and such a pretty face and a big, sweet smile.

All of the foreplay is great. She is especially loving and warm. Which is surprising by what I find out later. But. I can tell she isn't into being given oral. Which is a shame, because she also has an amazingly small, beautiful punami, that I'the love to work on for a little bit, but. No real reaction. Good thing SHE is good at giving oral.

But THEN. She doesn't have a condom. Damn. Neither do I. In my haste to get started I didn't pick any up. So, we finish without actual intercourse, but she spends a good deal of time cuddling and talking, and still even playing around a bit.

She tells me, about her baby's daddy (not together anymore) and her out of country 'boyfriend', who she outright admits she is lying to for the money. I mean, I know it's part of things, but this is my first time hearing someone directly tell me. She admits she hates sex. And does this solely for the money to provide for her young one. I know these things, from reading. And yet, this is my first time hearing it from one of them.

I tell her, I hope one day she finds someone that DOES turn her on. Who treats her well and that makes her happy. She kind of smile / laughs, but. Who knows. Maybe life is so day to day here it just DOESN'T matter. I walk her back and we take a picture together and I tell her I'll stop in and have a drink with her tomorrow.

I need some sleep. At least a nap.

[Banana Boi]

700 (Baht) sounds good to me. Isn't it 1 K before midnight in most places? Or am I thinking of Pattaya prices?

Gogo bar barfines are higher in Pattaya than BKK.

[Uncle Volodya]

$700 for BF? When did that start?


Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah. It is what it is. I'll pay less the other 10 nights of my trip. Right now I want what I want, and THIS girl, gets enough business that she doesn't need to negotiate. She even tells me, no to LT. The only way this part of the market is going down in price is if business drys up badly. And compared to the month of May when I was here. It looks much more busy.

700 (Baht) sounds good to me. Isn't it 1 K before midnight in most places? Or am I thinking of Pattaya prices? To be honest its been a while since I BFed someone in BKK. Most of my recent experiences in BKK has been with freelancers (Thermae, Levels, etc.).

[Member #4551]

The AMP scene in Bangkok is so in your face all night and every night, compared to the more sedate less obvious AMP scene in Dubai.

Have to say I prefer the Dubai scene, and looking forward to going home tonight. Before Bangkok completely sends me round the bend.

[Mogwai]

$700 for BF? When did that start?

Let me make sure of a few things.

Real kissing? Yep. DATY? Enthusiastic yes! No condom blow job? She doesn't understand. I create my own hand signals and demonstrate somehow and she nods yes.

Let's go! The less of these over priced drinks I have to buy the better!

Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah.

If you tell us how much you paid then we are ready to crucify you, LOL!
(apart from the $700 BF but I suppose it was THB 700).

[SexInStl]

Back in town last night, I've set my goal at 20 for the 11 nights I'll be here.

Staying close to Nana Plaza (a 3 minute walk) I immediately head there, thinking, take your time. Go into a few places. Be picky. But I end up with the first girl I talk to in the first bar I go into.

That's what starving yourself of booty will do.

I stop in Lollipop. The first go go bar you come to and. I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with some of the lineup. I take it the theme is 'young' and most look that way. Though certainly 'legal'. In particular I see a very, very skinny girl, with large bolt-ONS, and a cute smile on a pretty face, accentuated by her braces.

I want that.

Let's get #1 out of the way.

$700 for BF? When did that start?

Let me make sure of a few things.

Real kissing? Yep. DATY? Enthusiastic yes! No condom blow job? She doesn't understand. I create my own hand signals and demonstrate somehow and she nods yes.

Let's go! The less of these over priced drinks I have to buy the better!

Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah. It is what it is. I'll pay less the other 10 nights of my trip. Right now I want what I want, and THIS girl, gets enough business that she doesn't need to negotiate. She even tells me, no to LT. The only way this part of the market is going down in price is if business drys up badly. And compared to the month of May when I was here. It looks much more busy.

We decide to get a room across the way, even though my hotel is close by. I'm just ready to start. And she does not disappoint. For being young (she says 22, but looks 18, says she's only been doing this 'one month' Uh hunh.), she is quite skilled at what she does. If you like super skinny girls with big bolt-ONS, she is a 10. Soft tongue, sweet kisses, still with sensitive nipples on those big puppies, long silky black hair, and she loves to be given oral. Such a tiny little punami. Do all Thai girls have such small openings, or am I just somehow lucky enough to consistently pick them?

She is skilled at giving oral as well and soon I am ready to take her in a couple of positions. Her on top, then sitting, then missionary. Unfortunately when we get to doggie, the condom breaks inside of her. She's a bit freaked but I hadn't cum yet. Still. Need to go get checked. At least I stopped when I realized it had broken. These in-country condoms are too small. After washing up, she finishes me off orally, and lets me cum on her breasts. We talk a bit and I ask if she likes other girls and if she'the be up for three of us next time and she is very enthusiastic about that.

I walk her back (I can't remember her name, but I do plan to at least have a drink with her before I go, so I'll get it then) and go in to check out Bangkok Bunnies. Either all of the talent is checked out early or, I have to wonder what happened to this place? Lollipop had a much better selection.

[LaoMan]

I agree the ladies are not overly impressed with farangs who pick up the lingo especially those that insist on communicating with them in Thai. I feel they prefer that invisible protective barrier of we not understanding what they are talking about when they are chatting amongst themselves. They will be far more impressed and interested in your generosity and your respect for them.

I have never had that experience, in fact quite the contrary. When I talk Lao or Thai the girls find it cute and are very happy to communicate. Perhaps it depends on what you say and how you say it.

[Franciscass]

Believing Thai working girls are such prudes to label a customer simply asking for swallowing a psycho is naive. It is behavior that qualifies not sexual preferences. A customer trying to stick his tongue down her throat against her wishes or continuing banging her past the point where she is experiencing pain more particularly the nut job who enjoys this that's my definition of a psycho.

[EihTooms]

There were famous girls at Tulip who customers thought swallowed, but actually very stealthily got rid of the cum often without the customer knowing. LOL.

I also go by casual conservation with girls reluctantly working in porn star shops and reporting a high percentage of customers as somewhat psycho in their opinions. Does not mean they cannot accept the deal. Just I am aware a fairly high percentage of Thai girls are not considering cum swallowing to be normal nor providing it.

Some Tulip girls specifically told me that they don't do it, even though I never requested it. If you want a really strong GFE experience, sometimes the girl really needs to like your attitude and preferences (not only get money), so I try not to risk spoiling the girls opinion of me. I don't usually ask for things that I think might be a turn off for the girl, because I look for her to enjoy herself as far as possible, which somehow has a psychological effect on my enjoyment as well.

I collect regular girls that seem to be able to have a really good time on the bed. Each to their own way, of course.

The highlighting in bold is by me.

I don't think I have ever asked a girl, P4P or otherwise, about finishing a BJ with swallowing unless I had already felt the kind chemistry or keen interest to please from the girl of which you speak. That is practically a given for how and when to request special activities that would not generally be considered standard service. And I think most of us understand that. It isn't as though we're approaching a stranger in the shopping mall, tapping her on the shoulder and asking if she would swallow our cum. Of course we are talking about a situation where we have already established as fun and playfully sexy a connection as one can have under these circumstances and as I am sure you believe you establish with the ladies.

Which is one of the reasons the "psycho" reference doesn't really apply.

[Syzygies]

Sunday more than a week ago I was horny, having just returned to Thailand, however not one of my regular LINE girls was available. Checked out a few bars including, Crazy H, Shark, Billboard, Twister. Twister had the most girls with pretty face that day, however the girl I called for a drink seemed too shy and I did not get the right vibe. Later she asked for 4 K ST and 1 K BF. Ha ha! No way added to the poor vibe.

Approx. A week later went in Shark only. Kissy Patty with big tits had just returned fortunately. There was another gogo girl with big tits that looked acceptable (not hard coconut shells), also I found number 29 to be quite attractive with natural be cups, very good curves no sag, and Issan but pretty face. She would have been fine failing Patty. Also Coyote 348 was stunning. Face 8 and body at least 9 (can't see the covered tits however they looked large natural maybe). Later saw that some guy had BFed her. So the line up had improved. Forget what the Coyote BF is. I published that before.

[Syzygies]

Syzy, before an army of of ISG readers go marching out to ask their Thai girls these questions, I must point out that you changed the way I worded the quesitons in my earlier post and in a way that I suspect makes a significant difference. Particularly with Thai P4P girls, it might mean all the difference in the world.

I worded my questions "Will you?" but I think you provided translations for "Can you?" questions. At least, that is how you worded the English versions of them. I should have mentioned it earlier but I didn't catch it right away.

Of course, virtually every girl in the world "can" do the things I mentioned. Therefore, those are not very important questions in these situations. The key question, always, is "will" she do them for you. This is particularly pertinent to interactions with Thai P4P girls, who I have found tend to seize upon any opportunity to play word games in this regard in order to make the customer think she has agreed to something she has not; her saying "ok" in response to any question sexual or otherwise rather than a clear and unambiguous "yes" being the most common one in my experience.

Will you also provide the translations for "Will you?" do the things I mentioned rather than merely "Can you?" hehe

Thanks.

It is normal when requesting things in Thai language to ask "can you do something?" it is a request. If they answer "dai" meaning yes they can, it is essentially meaning they agree to give it. Thai maybe does not have the same semantical differences as English. Also it is unwise to assume that a basic English translation has exactly the same meaning or feel as the Thai words have. "dai mai" is the normal way to request someone to do something. You can regard it as meaning "can you?", "do you agree to?", not so much "are you capable of doing?" although could have this meaning in another context. "wai mai" means "are you physically up to doing something?" (not too exhausted or too sick to do it). Sometimes "dai mai" means "do I have permission to do something?". "bpen mai" means "do you know how to do" something?

If you asked a Thai, "will you", it is not a request, but more asking them to predict the future. The common answer then might be "naa ja tham" meaning "I probably should do it". No one can guarantee what will happen in the future.

If a Thai says they "will do something" the true meaning is they might do it. If they say they might do it, the true meaning is they probably will not do it. If they say they is no way they could possibly do it, they still might do it. Thais are just that unreliable. They typically exaggerate. So nothing they promise can be taken as 100% certain.

Feel free to check out my Thai translations with some girls to see if I got correct. I am very confident girls would not misunderstand if I asked them this way. I have 25 years experience since I started learning Thai. My Thai GF does not speak English and we have been together for 12 Years.

[Syzygies]

Have to say I have met an awful lot of Thai girls over the past 5 years or so dancing in go-go bars, freelancing in and out of the clubs, posting on the dating sites, working in restaurants and mall shops that apparently are quite alright having sex with "psychos" in this regard. Good lord, what must the girls think of the men who stand before a line up and ask for a show of hands if they are ready for a bit of ass licking/rimming and butt fucking? They must suspect those guys just killed a guard and escaped an Insane Asylum 90 minutes ahead of the arrival of the police.

There were famous girls at Tulip who customers thought swallowed, but actually very stealthily got rid of the cum often without the customer knowing. LOL.

I also go by casual conservation with girls reluctantly working in porn star shops and reporting a high percentage of customers as somewhat psycho in their opinions. Does not mean they cannot accept the deal. Just I am aware a fairly high percentage of Thai girls are not considering cum swallowing to be normal nor providing it.

Some Tulip girls specifically told me that they don't do it, even though I never requested it. If you want a really strong GFE experience, sometimes the girl really needs to like your attitude and preferences (not only get money), so I try not to risk spoiling the girls opinion of me. I don't usually ask for things that I think might be a turn off for the girl, because I look for her to enjoy herself as far as possible, which somehow has a psychological effect on my enjoyment as well.

I collect regular girls that seem to be able to have a really good time on the bed. Each to their own way, of course.

[Syzygies]

I was in crazy house a few nights ago and I noticed a few times that guys taking girls out seemed to be paying.

The moma san up front for the bar fine and the pay for the lady.

Is this the way it has to be in crazy house?

It depends. Well known customers like me never pay up front. I rarely even had to discuss the price with the girl. If a customer is not trusted to pay fairly or according to agreement reached, then girls who have been ripped off before may be scared can happen again, and may ask for payment up front. I don't like to pay suspect girls up front myself (I never do in bars so far). I prefer it when the price is not discussed giving me the option to decide what is fair after 2 hours of fabulous DFK fucking or an abort after 10 minutes with straight stiff legged dick scared girls, or somewhere in between.

I am not stingy. I pay well when it is deserved and I got a good reputation with mamasans and girls.