FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[UltraHappy]

It is not so much that the girls know how much time you want to spend in the room, but that they want to process the guys fast. First, to 60% of the girls (perhaps even higher) 30 minutes no longer means 30 but more like 20 or 23. So, by the 15th to 20th minute, they either would like to finish you or start making noises that you are coming close to the end of time and would you like to extend? I wear a watch and make a show of looking at my watch when I enter the room but that doesn't seem to matter. They cheat blatantly and claim only 5 minutes are left when I know I still have 10 to 12 on the clock. If you happen to extend to an hour, they do the same charade from the 40th to 45th minute.

I don't talk ever talk about extending to the next half. If they were to ask, I would just make clear that I pay for how long we stay in the room. If we stay half an hour, I pay half an hour. If we stay an hour, I pay an hour. If we stay 5 hours, I pay 5 hours. Thus, it doesn't make sense for them to ask me if I am going to "extend or not. " I would not respond to those types of questions other than to say that I will pay how long we stay in the room. Normal.

If I am in the room and girl did say something silly like, "You have only 2 minutes left" (when I really have 15 minutes left) -- though I have not observed this personally -- then, I would simply ignore her comment, let her know that I will pay her how long we are in the room, and continue to stay in the room however long I want. Then, at the lockers, I would pay her the correct amount, corresponding to how long we were in the room, and if she doesn't like me paying her the correct amount, then we can go to Reception.

A girl can get away with time cheating only if the man lets her. It doesn't matter what the girl claims the time is. You can just stay in the room how long you want and when you get to the lockers, you just pay her how long you were in the room.

If a girl tells me every five minutes that my next half hour is up, I'm not going to pay her 250 Euros after spending 25 minutes with her in the room. If we actually spent only 25 minutes in the room, I will hand her a crisp 50 Euro bill (despite the fact that she claimed we spent a half hour every five minutes).

You don't pay a girl for the time she "claims" you were in the room with her -- You pay her the time you were actually in the room with her. If I'm in the room with a girl for 1 hour and she claims that we were in the room for 2 hours, I will still naturally pay her for only 1 hour (not for her claimed 2 hours).

These are all hypothetical scenarios though because I can't remember these sorts of situations happening. I am just saying what I would do in the scenarios being described here.

[Member #4581]

It is not so much that the girls know how much time you want to spend in the room, but that they want to process the guys fast. First, to 60% of the girls (perhaps even higher) 30 minutes no longer means 30 but more like 20 or 23. So, by the 15th to 20th minute, they either would like to finish you or start making noises that you are coming close to the end of time and would you like to extend? I wear a watch and make a show of looking at my watch when I enter the room but that doesn't seem to matter. They cheat blatantly and claim only 5 minutes are left when I know I still have 10 to 12 on the clock. If you happen to extend to an hour, they do the same charade from the 40th to 45th minute.

Yes, you can stay back in the room till the last minute or take her to the front desk but what can you do when majority of the girls pull this slimy stunt? The mood goes down fast. Just have to live with it, as another sign of service degradation in the clubs.

I usually stay till at least last 4,5 minutes but I also know some of the girls are not so happy. Tough luck. But some other guys may be less willing to put up with the whiny girls and would rather leave the room.

Roxana asked me "you always stay till the last minute? Girls don't like it you know?! 30 minutes is really 20 min, may be 22". And that is after I was with her many times. Refreshingly honest, Roxana is 😎😎

I think you don't run into these issues UH because you are well known and perhaps you select new girls (to you) very carefully and perhaps those girls know what to expect with you from their friends. I know you say you are less known in Sharks but even there perhaps you are much more of a regular than most guys. But almost guaranteed that the same girls who give you good service and stay till you give OK are hustling the touristy types and cheating them on time.

[Pistons]

Never been because too far on a week end, from Paris, but I thought Artemis was a good level, big club, with good girls like Geraldine. Hu. My lovely friend Liz. De is ex Artemis. Upselling land?

One can say a lot about Artemis, but it is not upselling land. Unless it just started being so this year that is.

[UltraHappy]

So it might be the girl you pick but it might as well be your own fault because of lack of communication.

You seem to misunderstand my post. I was not complaining about girls cutting my sessions short. You might want to reread the posts below.

[Optimist]

Turgid. Thank you for your report which cheers me up by confirming that it is still worth looking for the good girls. I am so soft I would probably have repeated several times with her as a thank you to her LOL.

[Turgid]

So there I was relaxing on the couch, drink in hand, soaking in the ambiance and enjoying the parade of nubile bods. Then I spied her blonde, enticing enough face, not skinny but not fat, just the way I like them. She had accosted me in the past but I didn't bite for some reason, I thought to myself. I looked at her and from the distance she pointed her index finger to me and then to herself repeating the gesture a few times as these girls are wont to do inquiring whether we could have relations. Usually I ignore them when they do this (just come up to me and chat, I won't bite you!) however, I had been in the club for 2 hours and had not yet had a session so I nodded to her. She came and plopped down beside me. In the introductory remarks I asked where she was from and she refused to respond and it dawned on me that I had spoken to her on other occasions and she did the same thing which probably had a role in my previously declining her. Her pre-room chit chat was not very encouraging. However, a room was overdue and when she asked what she could do for me I enlightened her as to all my thrills. She nodded in acceptance and I responded half hour, fifty euros she agreed and we were off to the zimmer.

It was very hot and I had in mind a room with a window to which we headed; on the way I spied a fan in another room, grabbed it and plugged it into my room of choice. So with breeze from within and without the logistics were agreeable. As soon as we were naked on the bed she shoved her tongue into my mouth and a smile came to my mind; this portends a good session. I was wrong, it was a great session! Her BBBJ was unrelenting. I rewarded her with 69 during which she deep throated me at which point I closed my eyes and thought I had been transported to Brazil.

She partook of CFS like a real trooper, no fake moans but genuine enjoyment in numerous positions which she enthusiastically agreed to and even initiated. I thought to myself that I would extend it to a 1 hour session but with her at the corner edge of the bed lying on her side and me with legs spread apart on the floor pumping her while holding up her head with my right hand and DFKing her at the same time my soldiers came rampaging on towards the breach, dear friends. I knew it was within the half hour mark, indeed it was about 28 minutes.

Ten years ago I would have tried for a second round but I knew I could not manage that especially after battles in recent days. So off to the lockers we went. This girl definitely deserved more than 50. I remember having in my wallet in addition to my 50 E notes, 30 euros. At the locker I realized I had used a 20 with a fifty to pay the entrance so in fact I had 15 euros. I thought whether to tip her 50 euros or 15. Without much thought I tipped her 15 euro which she heartily accepted.

On my way to the showers I thought that the 15 e tip was manifestly unfair as I had done much more and had greater enjoyment in that half hour than all the 100 euro sessions I had done since May. I am here for another few weeks and I really think I should somehow rectify that with this lovely bombshell.

[ExpatLover]

Maybe it's all because of the different behave off race and type of people. In general Germans for example don't need to stay in the room and talk after their finished. For what I understand they are very clinical. They do their thing and when they finish they leave and don't fill the rest of the time talking. So there might be more things for the girls that are very common with some type of men. For the girls it's also a guess like this. What type of man is this, what does he want? If a men don't express him self the women does not know what he wants and takes the most easy way and goes out of the room as soon as the man is finished. But girls also know that their are men who need this so. Communicate to the girl that you want to fill the rest of the session.

And she might stay thinking if she stay's to the end and treath's her client well she might have a regular client.

So it might be the girl you pick but it might as well be your own fault because of lack of communication. This might be the key why some guy's have totally general experience then other guys. Communication or the lack of it or some might just attract the wrong types, the women who go for the quick bucks.

I think that you are wrong most of the germanvguys will stay the full time in the room contrary to many guys from UK, Ireland, Russia, US etc. Who will leave after the things are done.

[Kempie]

I am really flummoxed by all these people who are claiming that the girls are ending their sessions early because (1) this never happens to me and (2) I am quite puzzled as to how this is occurring in the first place since this can only happen if the man decides ahead to announce his intention regarding room time -- which naturally leads me to the following questions: (1) why would a guy communicate ahead of time a time cap to his girl? And (2) how does the guy know ahead of time that he isn't going to have such a good time that he isn't going to want to stay longer than his supposed pre-determined time cap?

Me, I never know ahead of time how I long I want to stay in a room. Thank goodness FKK isn't a prepay system -- otherwise, I'd have to keep going out to my locker every half hour!

In my experience, the girls I go with don't ever suggest leaving the room because (1) they want to stay in the room and keep earning money (or so I assume) and (2) they can't suggest when to leave because they have no idea how long we will stay in the room.

And yes, I don't always use the full time up to the next half hour increment, but to be clear, this is because I choose to leave early, not because the girl has called time or imposed some sort of time cap.

Maybe it's all because of the different behave off race and type of people. In general Germans for example don't need to stay in the room and talk after their finished. For what I understand they are very clinical. They do their thing and when they finish they leave and don't fill the rest of the time talking. So there might be more things for the girls that are very common with some type of men. For the girls it's also a guess like this. What type of man is this, what does he want? If a men don't express him self the women does not know what he wants and takes the most easy way and goes out of the room as soon as the man is finished. But girls also know that their are men who need this so. Communicate to the girl that you want to fill the rest of the session.

And she might stay thinking if she stay's to the end and treath's her client well she might have a regular client.

So it might be the girl you pick but it might as well be your own fault because of lack of communication. This might be the key why some guy's have totally general experience then other guys. Communication or the lack of it or some might just attract the wrong types, the women who go for the quick bucks.

[Sirioja]

If you managed Artemis, then sharks is much easier to manage. Same rules apply only less up sell by the girls and better service normally. Also depends in your spending habits.

Never been because too far on a week end, from Paris, but I thought Artemis was a good level, big club, with good girls like Geraldine. Hu. My lovely friend Liz. De is ex Artemis. Upselling land?

[DaWong949]

Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

Thanks.

Pretty much in the same way you were in Artemis. Take your time, talk to them before you go to room. Tuesday is slow day so you will have advantage there. Saturday can be busy day though.

Have fun.

[Danny227]

Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

Thanks.

If you managed Artemis, then sharks is much easier to manage. Same rules apply only less up sell by the girls and better service normally. Also depends in your spending habits.

[UltraHappy]

I am really flummoxed by all these people who are claiming that the girls are ending their sessions early because (1) this never happens to me and (2) I am quite puzzled as to how this is occurring in the first place since this can only happen if the man decides ahead to announce his intention regarding room time -- which naturally leads me to the following questions: (1) why would a guy communicate ahead of time a time cap to his girl? And (2) how does the guy know ahead of time that he isn't going to have such a good time that he isn't going to want to stay longer than his supposed pre-determined time cap?

Me, I never know ahead of time how I long I want to stay in a room. Thank goodness FKK isn't a prepay system -- otherwise, I'd have to keep going out to my locker every half hour!

In my experience, the girls I go with don't ever suggest leaving the room because (1) they want to stay in the room and keep earning money (or so I assume) and (2) they can't suggest when to leave because they have no idea how long we will stay in the room.

And yes, I don't always use the full time up to the next half hour increment, but to be clear, this is because I choose to leave early, not because the girl has called time or imposed some sort of time cap.

[McAdonis]

If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?

I agree that getting only 40 minutes on a 60 minute room is wrong.

If a customer orgasms, I believe most WGs would expect that the customer will expect the customer to leave at the next 30 minute increment, especially if the customer is not much for small talk. So if a customer orgasms at the 35-40 minutes mark, the WG would probably expect that the customer will want to leave around the 50-60 minute mark. The WG would should ask the customer if he wants to go for round two or want a massage before "packing up" herself.

For customers that don't orgasm, then the WG really can't know. She probably assumes that most customers will want to make the best effort to orgasm, taking as much time as they need, or retrying multiple times. Maybe fucking three hours with minimal rest break. Of fuck 40 minutes, rest 20 minutes, fuck 40 minutes, rest 20 minutes. Some customers like to just talk, drink, smoke or do drugs together.

Some WGs, typically the younger ones, know long rooms will give them more money with less pussy pounding, but they really don't like being bored by customers who they might find creepy, old, annoying. The cultural or generational gap does not make things easier. So they might prematurely abort even on long rooms, setting a cap on the room. The older WGs who are older and outside of their peak-earning years know long-room whales may not come around as often as years past. They may also have learned "patience".

[Sirioja]

I pay 40 for 30 min and I can have very good service in Aca, that's my argument. If you're paying 100 for 30 minutes without any extras, you're getting screwed.

You can have 40 mn with Deria. Tu, my first Turkish girl, exceptional sensual, for 40 € at Aca on November 2015, if there was a ATM, I would have kept her until 5 am, and 2 hours at Globe for 560 with Isabella I like since February 2014 at Sharks, then World, then Globe.

Ex Alice at Aca is now Beatriz at Globe, from 40 to 140.

[Canary]

Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

Thanks.