FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Sirioja]

Biggest quantity, but I don't find really impressive Sharks casting since mid February, but fortunately for me, I find very few but very interesting girls and I'm happy with them.

[Sirioja]

Of course not, because that would be the old (pre-2020) rate:

2 x 30 minutes for 50 Euros each: 100 Euros.

1 extra (anal) for: 100 Euros.

Total: 200 Euros.

So yes, I do agree with EA on this one: asking 200 Euros for a simple Fuck & Suck with barely any good kissing is extortion or price gouging, because that's more or less reality on the ground in 2023.

For relevance: what's the last time you were in Sharks?

Rather than paying Globe entry 95 for average foods and bad rooms with dirty beds and 150/30 for average looks, most who worked in Germany before and when I would never pay for Ariana who couldn't get business at Freubad, I much prefer to pay even 200 for a real more fresh beauty and GFE like I found at Sharks since October, on my last visits for 200/90 and enjoying these 4 beauties for 25 hours in beautiful rooms, most often with window for daylight, not in the dark to prevent to see defaults. I find Sharks casting on very average quality on 2023 , but with my eyes, I found some really high level and when I don't need rules to manage with women, I made to really enjoy them and repeat with all 4 , one even too tornado in bed for me, Ukrainian speaking Russian. Also 2 Germans and Lora until I discovered she was not as authentic as claimed, but no beauty like her at Globe. For less expensive, Sharks is higher potential for me than Globe and I know only GG for better value to enjoy real beauties. At Sharks, some new are for 80/30 and 130/60 , but 200 attract some Germans from escorting and then your way is your ability to manage about time she wants to spend in bed with you. Had great visits for 165 for entry with 40 mn, or 250/265 with 90 enjoyable mn. For fans, supermodel Kelli. Ro is at Globe. I don't see other reason to pay 95 entry.

[Sirioja]

On my visits, the only girl that seemed to be constantly booked was Melissa. But of the rest, Valentina was amongst the busier girls yet I never even saw her walking around hunting. She is pretty enough and looks elegant enough to get a room without ever sitting alone for more than 20 minutes. If she hunted like some others, you may never see her free.

But every girl except for Melissa would always be available at some point. I suspect that the availability of even the best looking girls is due to the lack of long rooms being taken. Even if a busy girl makes 10 rooms, the majority are only 30 minutes so you will always eventually spot them being available at many points throughout the day. Fridays and Saturdays may be different since those are "out of town" clients days.

Sometimes you see girls sitting with a guy for a while without going to a room because they might not feel that every minute needs to be spent making money, especially if they already cleared their entry cost or possibly already made a respectable sum of money for the day. On a less busy day, I took Lori, precovid Loredona, for a 3.5 hour room. But she spent a couple hours before and a couple hours after our session with me because she was not in money making mode. One client circled us at least 3 times waiting for her but she just wanted to relax for a while. The same guy even stalked us when we took a room outside at the far end of the garden when I saw him walking by at least once to check if she was free. I saw him circling one more time after I paid her but she was still not interested yet. Sometimes girls need to rest after a long room or even slowly ease into the day after a long night. She did take a few shorter rooms later in the night and probably still cleared plenty of money for a typically slower day at Sharks.

That is one reason to avoid busy weekend days at some clubs. You can get a better and more relaxed experience from the girls since they don't expect to make as much and are more willing to spend time sitting with a regular customer.

We don't have same eyes, when I often saw Melissa not busy and on Friday 23 June on evening and night, like on Saturday 10 June, Valentina was really not busy, but turning around so many times, for a new girl.

[HammerTime96]

HammerTime96,

With the exception of the good advice regarding saying, "not my first time," I can confirm that none of that is needed. I am of Asian ethnicity and I openly tell them that I don't live in Europe and don't get quoted prices any different than any local or other international visitor.

Well, you're obviously quite assertive, but I'm talking about the snowflakes who can't tie their shoes and need to report me to the Moderator Gestapo who enjoys getting fucked in the ass by that Midget French fuck. LOL!

[Escape Artist]

That's quite a bold statement and I doubt that it's true, but perhaps you're right. Please give us a link and show us the relevant section of the law instead of just vague insinuations.

On top of that, there is no law that prevents a club from refusing certain girls that 'do not fit into the overall concept. '.

Girls don't have an automatic right to enter Sharks, and like ANY other club, bar or restaurant, they can easily refuse certain people (misbehaving men, or overcharging girls) entry.

Have you ever been to Sharks (or any other club) and seen fully dressed new girls waiting near the entrance, hoping to be able to work in that particular club? Well, if it was so 'difficult' to dictate prices or service levels, then those girls would just pay their 110 Euros entrance fee, get a locker key, walk in and get to work ripping off customers with ludicrous prices, right?

The problem is IMHO that this Turkish guy who runs Sharks is quite a weak leader, to both men and women. Certain men (hint: especially during the weekends when it's not Ramadan) make a complete mess and act like total slobs (just look at the changing rooms, the restaurant area, or in the sauna), while certain women are allowed to rip people off. Most of the staff doesn't care, and no selection is made at the entrance. This is the biggest problem at Sharks IMHO.

The club's duties and restrictions:

https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/12217/a201358.htm

Full law:

https://www.buzer.de/s1.htm?g=ProstSchG&f=1

This one is difficult as laws are often not written as specific as you need.

For example, the "design of sexual services" or "Die Ausgestaltung sexueller Dienstleistungen" is to be determined exclusively by the prostitute and the client. However, does "design" or "Ausgestaltung" just mean the nature of acts or does it also include details such as pricing. This would be an important interpretation of the wording.

On the other hand, there is a provision where a club is obligated to provide a written agreement regarding services. It does not specify further if "agreements" or "Vereinbarungen" includes specific details of the agreement such as pricing but it seems to me that this leaves the door open for the clubs to dictate pricing. If the girls does not agree to the terms, she could go elsewhere.

As for the Turkish guests, in addition to your criticism which does have validity, the club and much of the FKK scene in general owes much of the post covid survivability to that demographic. I am certain that the first year after lifting restrictions, Turkish entries were the biggest source of income for the clubs. Without them keeping the club afloat during that time, we might have lost even more clubs and the line up at a club like Sharks would most certainly not have beefed up to the levels they are now without those guys filling the club, thus attracting more girls to come work.

Their importance is stressed even further for example when one girl complained last week that business is slow because it was a Muslim holiday. This shows to me that ethnic German and international business alone still cannot the support the clubs.

[Escape Artist]

HammerTime96,

With the exception of the good advice regarding saying, "not my first time," I can confirm that none of that is needed. I am of Asian ethnicity and I openly tell them that I don't live in Europe and don't get quoted prices any different than any local or other international visitor.

No need to make it that complicated, even less need to target one group especially one that currently makes up less than 1 in 100 visitors. In a couple weeks visiting clubs, I probably only saw less than 25 ethnic Asians compared to thousands of other ethnicities. Heck, I heard more French accents than I saw Asians.

Canary probably is thinking along the same lines as me. Locals still get quoted the same 100 e price a majority of times by most girls. The difference is that, in general, international visitors have more of a desire to make sure they hit the most attractive girls m during their shorter visit window whereas a local can forgo the paying the high price for their first choice and enjoy another girl of similar caliber and return for a session a few days or a week later and perhaps they may even succeed is achieving a lower price on repeated attempts. I am with Canary that searching for 50 e rooms at Sharks is not a good way to spend a short visit; however, not indulging in out-of-control pricing out of principal still allows for great rooms while not contributing to worsening prices.

[SethiatSpace]

Saying "hugging and groping" in Romanian? You're afraid of a "language barrier" for some basic terms that every WG knows or that you could easily describe?

Dude, by even asking such stupid questions to a WG you will make yourself look like a complete fucking idiot in her eyes, and you'll identify yourself as a total Simp ready to be ripped off.

Dude, were you some born yesterday? Are you serious?

Of course hugging and groping (tits, pussy and ass) is included, it's part of fucking someone! It's part of what people do in an FKK club: fucking! Have you ever fucked a woman?

I never met a WG who's ass, legs, tits or pussy I couldn't touch, but of course many girls want you to be gentle with her pussy. Unfortunately quite a few girls nowadays won't allow fingering (many men are pigs who don't even wash their hands after taking a shit, so understandably they don't want those disgusting fingers in their pussy and get an infection) so if if you like fingering her pussy then you better negotiate this beforehand.

Don't be so harsh. It may be his first time with a prostitute and he may be shy. And let me tell you that you're wrong, it's not always included. Case in point, if you go to the RLD of Amsterdam, unless you make sure of everything and I mean everything, you will have girls who will refuse for you to touch them, some girls will even refuse to take off their clothes, just push aside their panties! It's not uncommon, over there it's a fucking joke. Even in Samya, one of the girl I went with refused to removed her heels in the room so she kept them on during the whole duration of the act.

But yes, as far as FKKs is concerned, groping is basically the basis of interaction. Any girl that comes to you, you're free to grope her ass and tits. It's good for business as she knows this will get you excited and some girls will even take and put your hand on her ass if she sees you're not so interested to get you to be more active.

If he asks for this, then it's clear he is a first timer and have no experience with prostitutes in general and will be an easy target.

[SethiatSpace]

I don t know for Valentina I saw really not busy on some of my visits even new at Sharks, but some guys book girls for companionship, almost not going to room and fucking, maybe they are not able

I know some book long time for companionship. Even Saturday a German dude had booked Mira and her friend for the whole day (6 hours).

But I've noticed enough time in Sharks and Oase, girl just sitting and chatting with men, clearly not trying to go in the room and not booked / paid as the men would not touch the girls and the girls would sit at some distance.

[Escape Artist]

On my visits, the only girl that seemed to be constantly booked was Melissa. But of the rest, Valentina was amongst the busier girls yet I never even saw her walking around hunting. She is pretty enough and looks elegant enough to get a room without ever sitting alone for more than 20 minutes. If she hunted like some others, you may never see her free.

But every girl except for Melissa would always be available at some point. I suspect that the availability of even the best looking girls is due to the lack of long rooms being taken. Even if a busy girl makes 10 rooms, the majority are only 30 minutes so you will always eventually spot them being available at many points throughout the day. Fridays and Saturdays may be different since those are "out of town" clients days.

Sometimes you see girls sitting with a guy for a while without going to a room because they might not feel that every minute needs to be spent making money, especially if they already cleared their entry cost or possibly already made a respectable sum of money for the day. On a less busy day, I took Lori, precovid Loredona, for a 3.5 hour room. But she spent a couple hours before and a couple hours after our session with me because she was not in money making mode. One client circled us at least 3 times waiting for her but she just wanted to relax for a while. The same guy even stalked us when we took a room outside at the far end of the garden when I saw him walking by at least once to check if she was free. I saw him circling one more time after I paid her but she was still not interested yet. Sometimes girls need to rest after a long room or even slowly ease into the day after a long night. She did take a few shorter rooms later in the night and probably still cleared plenty of money for a typically slower day at Sharks.

That is one reason to avoid busy weekend days at some clubs. You can get a better and more relaxed experience from the girls since they don't expect to make as much and are more willing to spend time sitting with a regular customer.

[Escape Artist]

I stopped seeing him many years ago, because his massages are shit! They are way too soft and he does all this feminine stuff with hot stones etcetera, perhaps okay for girls but definitely not for men.

Pro tip: IMHO it's a big red flag when you see a masseur (a "masseuse" is female massage therapists) hunting for business in the main lounge together with all the other prostitutes, LOL!

Stefan from Bulgaria is much better and has never cheated me with time, but his massages have become less strong and he tends to talk a lot of bullshit during massages which kinda ruins the relaxing experience for me. This Thai girl (I think her name is Pia) is the best, but she usually fully booked.

The masseuse named Stephan is probably the better technical masseuse but I just don't personally prefer his style. I even told him once that I do not care for the pressure point techniques but rather just to concentrate on muscle bellies rather than attachment points but he did not adapt. Like you, I also noticed that Khalid gave a softer massage but these past couple of weeks, I noticed a change where he is a little harder. He has never used hot stones on me but has usually used warm oil for the massage. Never noticed a feminine, foo-foo ambiance with his massage sessions. At the same time, I wouldn't care if he did.

That said, due to the attempt to cheat time, I will probably refrain from using him again. The Thai lady will be the next masseuse that I choose to visit at Sharks as prior sessions have been pretty good. She always stops to speak a little Thai with me and even once during a Khalid massage, she tagged in to finish the last 10 minutes or so of my session while chit chatting over Thai topics.

[Escape Artist]

Since covid, I see girls who speak almost no english, but more German. Maybe meaning they worked in privates or small clubs and come to bigger with now higher rates.

Fitting for your specific experience since you said many times yourself that since 2022 you personally have visited many more Germans. For the majority of other people visiting FKKs including myself, there has been no decrease in English speaking providers and there will not be in the near future as English remains the common tongue especially with young people deeply engaged in internet viewing habits.

As said, assuming basic English speaking ability especially in FKKs and especially in Frankfurt, will yield higher success rates in communication with the majority Romanian providers. These young Romanians often say that they prefer to speak English as it is more useful for them and many have very little desire to learn German since most actually don't even like Germany and have little desire to integrate.

[Canary]

I have never told any girl I'm new to Sharks or at any other club, never claimed I did.

I'm very conscious what I'm paying and don't pay over the odds as I've visited numerous times over the years.

All I'm saying it's difficult for irregular visitors to find the better value girls so often they end up paying the vastly increased prices.

[HammerTime96]

On a somewhat related note, I had a separate issue with Khalid, the masseuse at Sharks. I've known the guy for 8 years and make an appointment or two on every visit.

I stopped seeing him many years ago, because his massages are shit! They are way too soft and he does all this feminine stuff with hot stones etcetera, perhaps okay for girls but definitely not for men.

Pro tip: IMHO it's a big red flag when you see a masseur (a "masseuse" is female massage therapists) hunting for business in the main lounge together with all the other prostitutes, LOL!

Stefan from Bulgaria is much better and has never cheated me with time, but his massages have become less strong and he tends to talk a lot of bullshit during massages which kinda ruins the relaxing experience for me. This Thai girl (I think her name is Pia) is the best, but she usually fully booked.

[HammerTime96]

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[Sirioja]

Day 2 at Sharks. And the LU is still very impressive.

Cami.

First session of the day. I looked for her the day before but she was very busy so took first change today. Her English is improving, slowly. She is not yet jaded, so I like it. 130 for 1 h.

Melissa.

Second round and second time I don't manage to get hard with her despite her hot body. Maybe she is not for me. Just ended talking. 100 for 40 min, which I should have probably lowered to 50 as I didn't ask for anything in the end.

At that point I was wondering if I had any juice left in me. And lo and behold, three slim girls show up on my radar. The one I wanted initially disappeared and then.

Zaineb.

Claims to be half-turkish half-romanian. She has a distinct look so it may be. Holy molly what a body. She only had a black bra which got me even more excited. She seemed a bit too serious initially and she is sitting with Melissa as it's her friend. But I waved at her and she came to me. Very cute face, super friendly, didn't try to rush me to a room. I felt the little guy getting ready. Went up to the room and boy her natural tits are a delight. So obviously she doesn't like them and want silicons. Asked to stay one hour, she said 200 but immediately backed down to 150 when I refused. When I asked how old she is, my jaw dropped when she said 31.150 for 1 h.

Diana.

While looking for the first slim girl, I couldn't find her. So I settled on Diana, 25. Fake hard tits but tight body. Friendly enough in the room but that's all I can say.

Valentina.

By now I was completely exhausted but I have been seeing this girl since the early afternoon. And I thought maybe it was the infamous Brenda or Catalea but nope. Valentina is probably the most beautiful girl face-wise in the club (for me). And when she let her hair down, I went speechless. Wow. Her beautiful face is complimented with very full nice tits and ass. But really her face and smile. 100 for 30.

But I'm surprised by the girls. Maybe I haven't unlocked the super secret yet but I often see girls stay with one guy or a group of guys for a long period of time just chatting and laughing, not trying to go in the room. For example Valentina was all over one average dude, smiling constantly, laughing, letting him play with her and even slightly pulling down on her hair and kissing her. At no point he was going to go with her and she didn't seem to mind.

I don t know for Valentina I saw really not busy on some of my visits even new at Sharks, but some guys book girls for companionship, almost not going to room and fucking, maybe they are not able. When I told my rare German, I m sorry but I book to go to room and have sex, except when I stopped after few minutes or when I couldn t enter and didn t want to hurt, I always fuck when I book a girl, but at Sharks and was worst in Bruggen and still at GG and also at Globe, some guys book for hours and don t fuck, some even booking whole day because they don t want to see their girls going with another guy, but what happen on next day and who tell me about this. We don t all book girls for same reason, no room without sex and trying to make cum for me, when my model for sex for decades and no interest for other. At Globe, I saw a guy, not old, booking a German for hours, she went to lounge to take guys to fuck her in front of him, he might not be able to fuck her, even one of the sexiest at Globe. Each one own game in brothels, I will stick to my same game since I started, even I became much more picky after covid.