FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Syzygies]

Ah, upsell is an ugly word, "encouraged to" tip is better semantics, lol.

You should check out some American restaurants. They charge me with 18% tip (service charge, they call it) included with the bill along with the food and taxes. Sometimes, I have failed to notice and included another 15% or more on the credit card as my tip, only to regret later for being suckered.

I guess Janine practices this American restaurant school of tipping? LOL.

For non Americans, American compulsory tipping is hardly relevant for us.

Upsell is indeed the correct word any time a girl offers additional services for extra money.

Upsell feels ugly for most of us, so we don't like girls that make a habit of it. Very polite offers on first session for me are tolerable but nagging upsell is not.

Of course I am fortunate to avoid much upsell behavior by using regular girls and by girls understanding I will take an hour if I happy with the session.

This means I don't have to pay extra for kissing and the subject rarely comes up.

Makes FKK a lot more blissful to rarely meet upsell and yet upsell is known to be around for many years.

If a girl insists on having detailed discussion about what will occur in the room before my first session with her, I usually decide to pass. I like "go with the flow girls". The girl asks what I want to do, before entering the room, I just say I want to have fun. This usually works out for me, if the girl is capable of it. I don't generally grill her about what services she can provide either.

If girls want to charge 50 extra for kissing or DATY, will it really be worth an extra 50? Doubtful. I would rather spend the 50 another way, another girl, or time extension. Anal is not worth 100 to me. I never take it. It never gets offered either, almost never, very rarely. Cim is the only upsell I meet at all regularly. I disregard attempts to sell 2 girls as that is normally pre session in the lounge, so its an initial sell rather than upsell.

[Blover34]

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[Member #4585]

Bitumen, why do you care about what others do with Janine or Evita or other girls? When I go with a girl, I don t care what she gives to others, except if I hear about AO provided, but I try to find what she is not used to, and I m very surprised most of girls met, are really not used to normal foreplay.

UMMmm, I care, since this forum is about sharing information about finding girls including their service levels. So there is import in what others do with Evita or Janine. Look at the objectives of this forum.

If you do not care then why don't you go with Granny Turtle Donatalla Versace Silvana which you discuss at length.

I know you do not care since you use the forum like your personal diary writing your unintelligible poesy (sic) poetry.

[Member #4585]

Why would? Ask them yourself, you can't argue with the facts. And trust me I have no interest.

For someone with no interest you seem to write a fair amount about it. Look to yourself before you judge others. You may learn something.

[Hessen Bub]

Still a tip is voluntary. A service charge is not. If she wants extra money for kissing, is it like "I'll kiss you if you give me a tip?" or "I'll kiss you if you give me minimum 50€ tip?" you get what I want to say, I'm sure.

HB.

[Member #4581]

I thought I tip is something I give voluntarily AFTER the session. How does she decide whether to kiss you or not? You're negotiating the "tip" beforehand? That's called upsell.

HB.

Ah, upsell is an ugly word, "encouraged to" tip is better semantics, lol.

You should check out some American restaurants. They charge me with 18% tip (service charge, they call it) included with the bill along with the food and taxes. Sometimes, I have failed to notice and included another 15% or more on the credit card as my tip, only to regret later for being suckered.

I guess Janine practices this American restaurant school of tipping? LOL.

[Takedown]

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[YamaYama0519]

does she actually does this to most of her clients because she has been in this business for four years and knows how to manipulate guys?

Just my reports of Evita:

I envy you so much. You have more romantic and GFE experience with her than I have.

(1) May, 2016:1700-800 (100 E): the first time in the past 6 months, less slim now. We chose a cabin in the garden as a battle field. The garden is expected to be open on a full scale in a week or so. Kiss, kiss, kiss from Evita, BBBJ by Evita, her cow-girl on me, my 20-mitute's DATY leading her to big O, unsuccessful missionary, my 15-minute's massage on her, then finally her massage on me were observed in the pre-summer cabin. Must repeat.

(2) Nov. ,2015: the first session in half a year. She had her hair color changed from black to dark blonde and now dark brown in the last six months. In a room, DFK, caressing, 69 (I was surprised to see her put a rubber on for me with her mouth, Japanese style), hasty and dynamic cow-girl, slow missionary, 2 min DATY with her first orgasm, fast missionary without success were in order. I sweated a lot, she opened a window, outside it rained a lot. She reawaken my dick by BBBJ, then rode on me, went up and down so vigorously, nothing happened, she just sweated a lot. We needed a break and were engaged in a spoon for a while. My second DATY continued for more than 15 min, giving her the second intense ecstasy, and our missionary followed gave her the third orgasm. She evaluated our session saying that she was killed five times, three times in fucking and twice in massage (lower back and ass). E100/65 min. Must must repeat.

(3) May, 2015: Rom, 21 yo, long black hair, tanned, pretty, well-shaped be-cup, slim model, 168 cm, 4 months at Sharks. Procedure in a room: light kiss, massaging on her, caressing, DATY, intense cum on her side. She can receive DATY even after she cums, which is an uncommon experience to me. After she cummed, mediocre BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, BBBJ and massage on her. E100/60 min. Repeat.

[Syzygies]

If she really wanted to manipulate youshe'd give you her cellphone number and SMS / Skype you all the time saying she needs money for her sick mom back home in the village and all that. Once that bullshit starts you know the girl thinks you're a sucker.

I only ever had one FKK girl ask me for money to pay for her transport to Oase from a moderate distance, and she was Asian. Paid me back in rooms.

How come so few? Simple because I am reluctant to make myself contactable until I think the girl is not the type to ask for money.

Plenty of girls never asked for money to be sent. I just got lucky. LOL.

I like Asians, so are they my type? Any nationality can be my type if pretty and a lovely fuck.

So are girls going to prefer Asians because of their looks? Unlikely. Girls may like them because they are not too difficult and nicely behaved on average. I am sure they still make exceptions for particular customers they don't gel with.

Girls know they can get a nice massage to use up time from some customers too. I am happy to massage as well but only on her time.


With me, girls know they can get Daty on chargeable time. Despite that there are still some girls who wish to avoid it. Surprising? LOL

Other customers are very popular to take to the room, because they want to waste a lot of time talking, and girl just has to be a good listener even if she doesn't really understand. At Oase, Elizabeth was expert at listening to customer complex tales that she could not really follow that well. I love girls that can't speak English at all, sometimes. Then conversation is not needed. LOL

Why don't we just say girls are very attracted to customers that are stress free, clean, and good money providers appropriate to the level of hard work needed. That could be Asian or could be anything.

Smart girls know how to perform to collect regular repeat customers. Dumb girls do not.

[Hessen Bub]

I think she might really have an Asian fetish. It's much easier to be aroused and have inspired sex when your partner is "your type".

That's probably it. Why didn't that never cross my mind? She's into Asians. Sure. Was just too obvious. (if you are seriously thinking this might be true, stay away from working girls).

HB.

[Tommyseville]

So here is the problem, does she actually does this to most of her clients because she has been in this business for four years and knows how to manipulate guys?

And I thought I was the only guy she did that with! Sob!

Seriously, why does it matter? Evita is just one of the better service providers there; that she actively seeks out Asian guys is probably good because those lucky guys will get a great session as opposed to the hit or miss of choosing randomly.

I think she might really have an Asian fetish. It's much easier to be aroused and have inspired sex when your partner is "your type". As a guy I'd have a hard time getting it up for some fat cow; I'm sure it's the same for girls. Plenty of guys post to the boards seeking Asian providers, even in German FKKs. It's their thing. Why shouldn't Evita have a thing for Asian dick?

If she really wanted to manipulate you she'd give you her cellphone number and SMS / Skype you all the time saying she needs money for her sick mom back home in the village and all that. Once that bullshit starts you know the girl thinks you're a sucker.

[Hessen Bub]

I thought I tip is something I give voluntarily AFTER the session. How does she decide whether to kiss you or not? You're negotiating the "tip" beforehand? That's called upsell.

HB.

[Member #4581]

Janine allows DATY. Perhaps she is selective, perhaps depends on the mood of the day, but she allows it. She does kiss as well - for a nice tip.

[Syzygies]

Starlet Voyager does passive Janine!

Well done getting a really decent session from Janine.

Janine offers her backside in doggie at a high angle for almost pile driver doggie style where the man stands to fuck Janine from behind. I guess that was not what you wanted but for another man who likes it like that: well not all girls do it or allow it. So great disxovery there ans be privileged to be offered pile driver doggie position.

Also StarletVoyager gets to unload his ball deposit into Janine's willing wanton mouth since it is "extra money" for the service.

Janine does have a hot body and it compels some to try her even though they know the session will be crap. I have been there. Hahaha.

I don't do pile driving but I do prwfer ass raised and head lowered to improve the angle. I have never seen the need to be standing though. Most girls are relatively shorter than me by a fair margin.

I suppose I must try Janine eventually. However only if Daty is allowed. LOL Unlike Pussy Licker, I am really into it.

[Blover34]

Why would? Ask them yourself, you can't argue with the facts. And trust me I have no interest.

Why would Asian men have a crush on Evita?

I think you did open up the issue if I may possibly allege since you write it.

Not a big one if you do not feel comfortable answering something you claim. It was just out of interest.