Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

You can tell all the "stories" you want here. I'll tell one that happens to be true. This month of last year I did three webcam models, all from Bello. I didn't meet them that way, but one through FB and she led me to the other two. The latter two were completely without condom. I did them all individually plus two in a threesome. Two were confirmed as webcam models as I was directed to their rooms in Strip Chat and I watched a bit of their shows. Prices were normal, 200 mil for the single sessions, 400 for the threesome but that one included two leches. I paid transportation.

So once again, when it suits you you pull BS, or at best some unusual example out of your ass to try and gain advantage in a hooker forum debate. And no, of course, not everyone like you has to pay big just to look at those women, in your case groveling before one running her camera for a year for free with hardly the courage to even ask for your promised pay. You even rented a room from her, then went around telling all the mongers you met that she was your "roommate. " Okay, whatever. LOL.

Just took your testosterone shot did you? Feeling froggy?

What does that have to do with anything? There are tens of thousands of girls in Medellin who are, or were on webcam. What was their average income? Stripchat, like most of the platforms pays out twice monthly. How many tokens are they getting each payout? What percentage is the studio taking? It's not all that impressive when the "studio" is paying the girl 50 k per day, and forcing them to broadcast 8 hours per day. After 4-6 weeks they quit and someone else is using the same dildo on the same bed.

Honestly, you've fucked up the story at least 15 different times. Couldn't you get it right just once? It shouldn't be hard, I've told the entire story 5 or 6 times in exhausting detail. Here are some of the areas where you completely fucked up. Again.

1. I never rented a room. In fact at one point you called me out for freeloading because I stayed rent free for 1 year. Now I did pay the internet and split the utilities, about 250 k per month on average.

2. I never ran anyone's camera. That's not how it works. I did work as a monitor for several models, but never for the webcam model who held the lease to the apartment, or for my roommate. Her boyfriend was monitor for both women. I did provide some assistance to my roommate, mainly with helping her setup for her shows.

3. The webcam model I was tentatively working for and my roommate were 2 different women. I never claimed the first was my roommate.

4. There was no "promised pay. " The original idea was that the model and her boyfriend were starting a studio (my roommate already worked for them). I was supposed to work as monitor for their new models. They didn't sign any new models for 8 months. I did work with 3 different models for a major webcam studio, but the first 2 flaked and the 3rd quit for family issues. In the end, the income was insufficient for my needs.

How do you "gain advantage in a hooker forum?" Is there a preferred parking space, or theater discounts that I'm missing out on? The model who sold dates I've mentioned several times, going back over 5 years. What advantage do I gain by telling about her? I assume everyone already knows there are escorts getting $10 k USD and more per date. She's just an example of an "elite" escort.

I met her once, she was a speaker at Juan Busto's webcam university. He used to have a channel on Cam4 and held training sessions at his offices not far from the Aguacatela Metro station (I don't know if that's still going on). I attended several of the sessions and was even interviewed for 1 of them. You can find the interview in the online edition of Camgirl magazine, although I'm not telling you which issue. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I did it in under 1 minute.

Here's a question. Why do the things I did over 5 years ago matter so much to you? They don't really matter to me, but you just keep coming back to them, as if they have some bearing on the present. They don't. I learned things during that period. Occasionally the things I learned have some connection to current discussions. Other than that, it's just memories, no different than memories from high school.

Except for the continued friendship with my former roommate, I have no connection to those times. I've moved on, done different things, met other people and found new friends. Isn't it about time you moved on as well?

[Paulie97]

I don't know if JjB knows the girl and can respond but I know her and I've seen her.

She used to have a FaceBook account. I met her through a friend. He met her when she was on a WhatsApp account that would show you about a dozen girls and if you saw someone you were interested in you would contact the lady who owned that WhatsApp account and she would make the introductions. The fee would be a little bit higher back then (300 mil / HR) because the girl was giving the facilitator something like 100 mil and keeping 200 mil. Of course the benefit to the girl was any future dates with that person were now hers and hers alone. My friend contacted her and introduced me. I saw her a handful of times but then she started taking lots of vacation trips (hahahaha).

Mariana started posting photos on Instagram and developed a following. She may have also posted on Seeking or some other pay-for-play venues. She started posting photos of Cancun and other Island resorts. So I'm sure she started acquiring some wealthy clients.

So to bring it back to the questions of "is she elite". No. Not really. She is a high-end escort. She has had breast enhancement surgery but not the cheap sloppy kind with scars. She is stunning and good at "entertaining". So I guess if Elvis met her she would be "elite" because he liked looking at her. But as to reality. She is just one of hundreds of stunning looking girls that are available for a price. She learned that her good looks could command a higher price and so she asks for that price.

But elite? No, she doesn't come from an established family. She isn't a university graduate. So not elite. Just a gorgeous girl making her way.

A lot of these FB girls post "vacation pics" with stunning scenery, something that exists in plenty of poor countries that also have attractive room rates. They also like to have themselves photographed in front of expensive cars which likewise proves nothing. I know casas girls that occasionally post the same, but they never make it out of Manrique or Bello. Why? The answer is so easy. They haven't scored "wealthy" clients. Any average American can afford to take a girl on one of these trips to Mexico or the DR for a few days to a week, and most would be happy to take a modest daily fee in order to take a trip like that. So you, like JJBee62, way overestimate these Medellin prepagos, and that's why you pay more but get less from the same product than those that know what they are doing.

P.S. As has been stated before, the wealthy tend to be in places like the Mediterranean Coast, super hot girls plus far superior infrastructure, food, hotels, you name it, plus English speaking, better educated girls. Or they just stay in South Florida, where the higher strata Colombians go every chance they get, and have whatever girl that prefer delivered to them.

[Paulie97]

I've told the story before of the Colombian webcam model who was selling dates. To get one required a 100,000 token tip, lump sum, which would cost the guy about $8,000 (and the girl gets $5,000). That amount got you a 1 week vacation with her, totally at your expense and she picked the destination, first class and the best resorts. That didn't guarantee sex, but it at least got you to the negotiating table. Probably total expense from $15-$20 k USD.

You can tell all the "stories" you want here. I'll tell one that happens to be true. This month of last year I did three webcam models, all from Bello. I didn't meet them that way, but one through FB and she led me to the other two. The latter two were completely without condom. I did them all individually plus two in a threesome. Two were confirmed as webcam models as I was directed to their rooms in Strip Chat and I watched a bit of their shows. Prices were normal, 200 mil for the single sessions, 400 for the threesome but that one included two leches. I paid transportation.

So once again, when it suits you you pull BS, or at best some unusual example out of your ass to try and gain advantage in a hooker forum debate. And no, of course, not everyone like you has to pay big just to look at those women, in your case groveling before one running her camera for a year for free with hardly the courage to even ask for your promised pay. You even rented a room from her, then went around telling all the mongers you met that she was your "roommate. " Okay, whatever. LOL.

[Anthony2023]

Nope, I've seen your posts. I know more than enough about you to safely assure you that you're a true piece of work with a repugnant mentality.

So you have the same personality online as you do in person? You must be fun at parties.

It's called the internet bud, a place not to be taken seriously and post whatever you want without caring what anybody thinks.

[Voodoo Jones]

I've told the story before of the Colombian webcam model who was selling dates. To get one required a 100,000 token tip, lump sum, which would cost the guy about $8,000 (and the girl gets $5,000). That amount got you a 1 week vacation with her, totally at your expense and she picked the destination, first class and the best resorts. That didn't guarantee sex, but it at least got you to the negotiating table. Probably total expense from $15-$20 k USD.

You have to be a real fucking idiot to agree to this. And being a webcam model doesn't mean shit imo. Most of them are unattractive as the law of averages applies here as well. Plus most of them have copious amounts of makeup, surgeries, and trashy tattoos. We've all seen beautiful women working normal jobs and dating average guys. When I was in Medellin, the hostesses at restaurants were better looking than most of the women there.

Obviously, if you're unattractive yourself and awkward, then of course they're going to gouge you, but $8 K? GTFO.

[ShooBree]

I think it's just you that's ignorant, since you seem to enjoy judging people you know nothing about.

Nope, I've seen your posts. I know more than enough about you to safely assure you that you're a true piece of work with a repugnant mentality.

[Anthony2023]

Maybe it's just me but you sound so incredibly ignorant. Like you're a troll.

I think it's just you that's ignorant, since you seem to enjoy judging people you know nothing about.

[ShooBree]

It might sound like a joke but the older I get the more I realize that there are more things to a woman than her physical appearance. For instance when talking about 9's and 10's to me she is directly disqualified if she has kids, large / many tattoos, piercings and lacks education and manners.

[ShooBree]

Personally I wouldn't trust any recommendations for a restaurant by a fucking tire company.

I need a 8:30 res at botanico.

Maybe it's just me but you sound so incredibly ignorant. Like you're a troll.

[Anthony2023]

Personally I wouldn't trust any recommendations for a restaurant by a fucking tire company.

I need a 8:30 res at botanico.

[Mr Enternational]

Those Michelin stars aren't earned through an objective test. They depend upon a limited number of reviewers, which means (just like your 1-10 scale) it's subjective. Why do you think food critics so often disagree? The same is true with every type of critic.

Just like wine. The "experts" can not even tell expensive shit from cheap shit in a blind taste test. Best thing is to drink the one that taste good to you, not because it costs a certain amount of money.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, you fell in love with your hooker. That is a level 1, rookie mistake. Don't feel bad, you aren't the first man in recorded history to think with his dick. Perhaps after your "romantic relationship" ends as they inevitably do. You will have learned something.

I can understand why you think she is a hooker V as never in your life have you ever not paid for sex, but she never asked for money from me ever.

And this happened to me multiple times and I posted it happening with another guy on seeking. It just has never happened with you V and it never will. Every time you have sex, it comes at a fixed price.

[JjBee62]

Not really your choice. Did you choose your own family? Well you can not choose your own crew either. Elvis is responsible for appointing people to each crew, the same as he appointed his unemployed single mom vieja who lives off him to be an elite member of society.

Trying to change my name my name to Captain JJ now. Otherwise the crew will all have to say "aye aye Jay Jay" and it will sound like they're reciting the alphabet with an echo.

[Mr Enternational]

Like I said, JJBee and his crew do not use the 1 to 10 scale because they do not want to admit what fat and ugly women they are seeing, and you can tell just by their comments who they are.

And now it is the elite stuff. I said an elite woman is one who is desired by men. Lebron here says that some men desire fat women. That is like saying you cannot tell the difference between a 3 star Michelin restaurant with a 2 month wait and a McDonald's because you know some men desire McDonald's. How fucking dumb is that? And he thinks he is smart with a comment like that.

We all know the smart one is the one that said he looked at a gay cartoon character and saw himself.

[Elvis 2008]

I completely agree the woman has no morals. I was just too ignorant to not see it.

I wanted to believe something she wasn't and was blinded by that illusion.

Perhaps I could have done more you're right.

Nah, whatever you gave her, she would have wanted more. Count your blessings and move on. Thank God you did not marry her. You really are not mad at seeking or her but yourself for being duped by her. That happens to all of us. We all want to believe the women like us first and our money second but so often that is not the case.

It's not easy now a days to find a good girl that is very pretty. Let's be real we all know they know they can use their beauty to their favor.

In the USA, it almost does not exist. That is why I was making fun of Viliany so much. He thinks being on seeking is a big scandal in Colombia when it is now mainstream. I knew these girls who went on these daytime shows to say sugaring was bad when at the time they had sugar daddies. They were also paid by these shows to lie. Hell, we have a Vice President right now who sucked her way to the top. Every young hot girl is or has thought about being on seeking and selling herself.

And like I said, the ones who have not done it are mad later when they get married and things are not perfect. When they file for divorce, they want to be compensated for not being WGs. The reason guys have SBs and hookers is they are much cheaper than marriage, and the government is trying to shut down the P4 P market with this trafficking BS because guys know this to be true.

And Viliany's story about the hooker this guy wanted as a GF shows you how desperate guys are to toss away their monogamy while going for something fake to fit in the conventional world. The default position should be sugar baby not GF for guys with a woman they like. That way you do not get duped. Monogamy has to be earned not given away for nothing.

The cost of an ideal harem, which to me is three high quality women, runs $6000 a month in the USA, $2000 in Mexico, and $1000 in Colombia, and that is why chasing American women IMO is not worth doing. The $2000 in Mexico is in major cities. You can probably get it for less if you go to smaller and cheaper cities. That is why IMO you want to change to a type of job where you work hard in the USA and can get 1-2 weeks off per month to play abroad. And you always give yourself time to sample the new and upgrade your harem. Still, three different women gets rid of most of the need for better and different. Truth about sex is that it is like one in five or one in ten times with a hooker is really good but with SBs, it should be nine or ten out of ten times is good because you are keeping the better looking and performing girls.

As for an elite woman, it is not just looks. Say you have a 10 woman at a bar and everyone wants to buy her a drink. If she says, "I will let the guy who spends the most on me to buy me a drink", that is not elite woman. That is an elite hooker. You cannot make that woman into a GF because the minute someone else comes along with more cash, she is gone. That is why Lebron's comment is so dumb about the web cam girl being elite. What guy wants a woman who runs away for more cash?

Miami Boy got onto me about talking about my woman and you can see how much jealousy there is, but because guys here are so stupid when it comes to elite, I better tell you what it is. I have a group of friends and we hook up every year and one of the highlights was my bringing my latest sugar baby along for the ride. A lot of times there were no-shows, and some of the women would get bent out of shape by the antics of the men. The best women went along with the flow. Still even with the best of them, there was envy about my being with these women for their looks and the sex I had but there was no envy from these guys about the relationships I had with these women.

And there were the women others brought in. We had one type who blabbed on and made it all about her. There was one who tried to turn our group into a therapy session. And we have seen others focus on their previous pain or how all men are assholes and give a lecture on how men should be. Then there was one who did not know what a museum was. No one envies a guy with women like this.

So let's start from the top. I tell these same guys here I have given up my harem. They are all like WTF? They are used to the beauty, the movement, the imagined great sex, so they are thinking what is different with this one. So she calls me one time when I am with them and she is bubbling, charming, laughing happy to talk to me. The guys are like, "My wife / GF does not do that. Hell, she does not even answer the fucking phone. " Even with the ones who do not speak Spanish can tell from her tone how upbeat she is.

She is so obvious to show how much she cares about me but also my family and friends. Every morning she would cook for our guests and delighted in doing so. She would tell someone, "Hey, I noticed this shirt / skirt ETC was dirty so I washed it". And you would have to be blind to see how much she dotes over me.

I said before a true 10 makes both men and women go crazy. I saw a girl want to fight a 10 just when the 10 smiled at her BF. With an elite woman, it is the same thing. A female friend said to me, "Your gal is too good for you", but it was more like, "I cannot compete with a woman who treats her man that well, and I won't. ". She was intimidated.

With money, it is not the amount as much as how some women are never happy with any amount. Hell, some women will even try to take the time you have guests to embarrass you into getting more money. With Colombian women, it really does not cost much to care for them so I do not get the obsession with the amount. What is important is that they are happy with the amount and appreciate you for it. If you got a girl and all she talks about is Gucci this and Louis Vuitton that, no one is going to say, "Gee, I want a woman like that. " Maybe she does not sell herself to everyone, but she is still a ho.

And of course, all the guys who have met my woman are like "I want a girl like that". Yes, it is the looks and way she moves at first, but it is the personality, warmth, and character that drives the real envy. Guys want a woman who is a true contributing partner and not a fucking drain, and how many women are fucking drains?

Thing is I have had to tell guys how rare a woman like this is. Most attractive women, especially those in the USA, have a mental illness or are greedy as fuck, and that is before we get into how a woman treats you. So chances are if you are with a really hot woman and you think she likes you, you are probably deluding yourself. One of the tells is if there is an expectation of money after you have been with her. If not, there is a chance she is into you.

I think guys should have a harem and be happy with that. I was. I did not expect this but even if this relationship fell apart, I would be happy going back to my harem, and I think my gal kind of knows that. Anyway, I think if you go looking for an elite woman, you are going to be disappointed, but if you are always looking to upgrade your harem, then there is a chance you will come across an elite one.