Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

You can tell all the "stories" you want here. I'll tell one that happens to be true. This month of last year I did three webcam models, all from Bello. I didn't meet them that way, but one through FB and she led me to the other two. The latter two were completely without condom. I did them all individually plus two in a threesome. Two were confirmed as webcam models as I was directed to their rooms in Strip Chat and I watched a bit of their shows. Prices were normal, 200 mil for the single sessions, 400 for the threesome but that one included two leches. I paid transportation.

Just some more information on the subject.

The fact the girls were from Bello should have tipped you off. Not that there's anything wrong with Bello, but it does have a large number of prepagos.

The top studios operating in Medellin own or hold leases on hundreds of apartments in Poblado and Envigado, along with some commercial properties used for offices and studios. Of the 90+ apartments, in the high rise where I lived, at least 6 housed webcam models.

I understand things have improved, but 6 years ago the high speed cable internet in Medellin wasn't fast enough to provide at least 30 fps broadcast video, so a dedicated fiber connection was required. You could only get that in Poblado and some parts of Laureles. I'm sure it's more widely available now.

In order to provide quality video streaming for their models, the studios had fiber installed wherever they could get apartments. Some buildings were set up with a bunch of small rooms, where models would come and work their shift. That was for new models. You don't give a computer, monitor, camera and studio lighting to a girl to take home to Bello. Instead you set everything up in a secure location and provide a workspace for each girl.

Once a girl becomes successful you provide her with an apartment. It works out well. A good model will bring in $5 k-$8 k USD every 2 weeks. A nice high rise apartment back then was $600-$1000. The studio takes 40% and pays for the apartment, or 25% and the model pays rent. As the model becomes more successful they pay less to the studio and take responsibility for more of the costs. Of course the downside is that it takes 12-20 weeks for a model to start earning money. Most won't last that long.

Two of the largest studios in Medellin are Juan Bustos and AJ Studios. Both employ around 2,000 models. Juan was big enough he got backing from Cam4 (one of the older webcam platforms) to launch Q Cams, although it only lasted about a year. AJ was big enough to get an exclusive contract with CamSoda. No Colombian models could work on CamSoda unless they worked for AJ Studios, or were subcontracted to AJ. For example, I worked with one of Juan Busto's models who was on CamSoda. 5% of her earnings went to AJ. She was a special case. She had all her own equipment and fiber internet in her apartment. Juan Busto only kept 10%, 10% went to me and she kept 75%.

I'm curious. Why didn't you post about your adventure when it happened? I'm sure there are plenty of guys who would have enjoyed the review.

[ShooBree]

So you have the same personality online as you do in person? You must be fun at parties.

It's called the internet bud, a place not to be taken seriously and post whatever you want without caring what anybody thinks.

Yet you are here crying when I post what I want and think of you.

You're a troll. I think that you should be banned from this site.

[JjBee62]

You can tell all the "stories" you want here. I'll tell one that happens to be true. This month of last year I did three webcam models, all from Bello. I didn't meet them that way, but one through FB and she led me to the other two. The latter two were completely without condom. I did them all individually plus two in a threesome. Two were confirmed as webcam models as I was directed to their rooms in Strip Chat and I watched a bit of their shows. Prices were normal, 200 mil for the single sessions, 400 for the threesome but that one included two leches. I paid transportation.

So once again, when it suits you you pull BS, or at best some unusual example out of your ass to try and gain advantage in a hooker forum debate. And no, of course, not everyone like you has to pay big just to look at those women, in your case groveling before one running her camera for a year for free with hardly the courage to even ask for your promised pay. You even rented a room from her, then went around telling all the mongers you met that she was your "roommate. " Okay, whatever. LOL.

Just took your testosterone shot did you? Feeling froggy?

What does that have to do with anything? There are tens of thousands of girls in Medellin who are, or were on webcam. What was their average income? Stripchat, like most of the platforms pays out twice monthly. How many tokens are they getting each payout? What percentage is the studio taking? It's not all that impressive when the "studio" is paying the girl 50 k per day, and forcing them to broadcast 8 hours per day. After 4-6 weeks they quit and someone else is using the same dildo on the same bed.

Honestly, you've fucked up the story at least 15 different times. Couldn't you get it right just once? It shouldn't be hard, I've told the entire story 5 or 6 times in exhausting detail. Here are some of the areas where you completely fucked up. Again.

1. I never rented a room. In fact at one point you called me out for freeloading because I stayed rent free for 1 year. Now I did pay the internet and split the utilities, about 250 k per month on average.

2. I never ran anyone's camera. That's not how it works. I did work as a monitor for several models, but never for the webcam model who held the lease to the apartment, or for my roommate. Her boyfriend was monitor for both women. I did provide some assistance to my roommate, mainly with helping her setup for her shows.

3. The webcam model I was tentatively working for and my roommate were 2 different women. I never claimed the first was my roommate.

4. There was no "promised pay. " The original idea was that the model and her boyfriend were starting a studio (my roommate already worked for them). I was supposed to work as monitor for their new models. They didn't sign any new models for 8 months. I did work with 3 different models for a major webcam studio, but the first 2 flaked and the 3rd quit for family issues. In the end, the income was insufficient for my needs.

How do you "gain advantage in a hooker forum?" Is there a preferred parking space, or theater discounts that I'm missing out on? The model who sold dates I've mentioned several times, going back over 5 years. What advantage do I gain by telling about her? I assume everyone already knows there are escorts getting $10 k USD and more per date. She's just an example of an "elite" escort.

I met her once, she was a speaker at Juan Busto's webcam university. He used to have a channel on Cam4 and held training sessions at his offices not far from the Aguacatela Metro station (I don't know if that's still going on). I attended several of the sessions and was even interviewed for 1 of them. You can find the interview in the online edition of Camgirl magazine, although I'm not telling you which issue. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I did it in under 1 minute.

Here's a question. Why do the things I did over 5 years ago matter so much to you? They don't really matter to me, but you just keep coming back to them, as if they have some bearing on the present. They don't. I learned things during that period. Occasionally the things I learned have some connection to current discussions. Other than that, it's just memories, no different than memories from high school.

Except for the continued friendship with my former roommate, I have no connection to those times. I've moved on, done different things, met other people and found new friends. Isn't it about time you moved on as well?

[Paulie97]

I don't know if JjB knows the girl and can respond but I know her and I've seen her.

She used to have a FaceBook account. I met her through a friend. He met her when she was on a WhatsApp account that would show you about a dozen girls and if you saw someone you were interested in you would contact the lady who owned that WhatsApp account and she would make the introductions. The fee would be a little bit higher back then (300 mil / HR) because the girl was giving the facilitator something like 100 mil and keeping 200 mil. Of course the benefit to the girl was any future dates with that person were now hers and hers alone. My friend contacted her and introduced me. I saw her a handful of times but then she started taking lots of vacation trips (hahahaha).

Mariana started posting photos on Instagram and developed a following. She may have also posted on Seeking or some other pay-for-play venues. She started posting photos of Cancun and other Island resorts. So I'm sure she started acquiring some wealthy clients.

So to bring it back to the questions of "is she elite". No. Not really. She is a high-end escort. She has had breast enhancement surgery but not the cheap sloppy kind with scars. She is stunning and good at "entertaining". So I guess if Elvis met her she would be "elite" because he liked looking at her. But as to reality. She is just one of hundreds of stunning looking girls that are available for a price. She learned that her good looks could command a higher price and so she asks for that price.

But elite? No, she doesn't come from an established family. She isn't a university graduate. So not elite. Just a gorgeous girl making her way.

A lot of these FB girls post "vacation pics" with stunning scenery, something that exists in plenty of poor countries that also have attractive room rates. They also like to have themselves photographed in front of expensive cars which likewise proves nothing. I know casas girls that occasionally post the same, but they never make it out of Manrique or Bello. Why? The answer is so easy. They haven't scored "wealthy" clients. Any average American can afford to take a girl on one of these trips to Mexico or the DR for a few days to a week, and most would be happy to take a modest daily fee in order to take a trip like that. So you, like JJBee62, way overestimate these Medellin prepagos, and that's why you pay more but get less from the same product than those that know what they are doing.

P.S. As has been stated before, the wealthy tend to be in places like the Mediterranean Coast, super hot girls plus far superior infrastructure, food, hotels, you name it, plus English speaking, better educated girls. Or they just stay in South Florida, where the higher strata Colombians go every chance they get, and have whatever girl that prefer delivered to them.

[Paulie97]

I've told the story before of the Colombian webcam model who was selling dates. To get one required a 100,000 token tip, lump sum, which would cost the guy about $8,000 (and the girl gets $5,000). That amount got you a 1 week vacation with her, totally at your expense and she picked the destination, first class and the best resorts. That didn't guarantee sex, but it at least got you to the negotiating table. Probably total expense from $15-$20 k USD.

You can tell all the "stories" you want here. I'll tell one that happens to be true. This month of last year I did three webcam models, all from Bello. I didn't meet them that way, but one through FB and she led me to the other two. The latter two were completely without condom. I did them all individually plus two in a threesome. Two were confirmed as webcam models as I was directed to their rooms in Strip Chat and I watched a bit of their shows. Prices were normal, 200 mil for the single sessions, 400 for the threesome but that one included two leches. I paid transportation.

So once again, when it suits you you pull BS, or at best some unusual example out of your ass to try and gain advantage in a hooker forum debate. And no, of course, not everyone like you has to pay big just to look at those women, in your case groveling before one running her camera for a year for free with hardly the courage to even ask for your promised pay. You even rented a room from her, then went around telling all the mongers you met that she was your "roommate. " Okay, whatever. LOL.

[Anthony2023]

Nope, I've seen your posts. I know more than enough about you to safely assure you that you're a true piece of work with a repugnant mentality.

So you have the same personality online as you do in person? You must be fun at parties.

It's called the internet bud, a place not to be taken seriously and post whatever you want without caring what anybody thinks.

[Voodoo Jones]

I've told the story before of the Colombian webcam model who was selling dates. To get one required a 100,000 token tip, lump sum, which would cost the guy about $8,000 (and the girl gets $5,000). That amount got you a 1 week vacation with her, totally at your expense and she picked the destination, first class and the best resorts. That didn't guarantee sex, but it at least got you to the negotiating table. Probably total expense from $15-$20 k USD.

You have to be a real fucking idiot to agree to this. And being a webcam model doesn't mean shit imo. Most of them are unattractive as the law of averages applies here as well. Plus most of them have copious amounts of makeup, surgeries, and trashy tattoos. We've all seen beautiful women working normal jobs and dating average guys. When I was in Medellin, the hostesses at restaurants were better looking than most of the women there.

Obviously, if you're unattractive yourself and awkward, then of course they're going to gouge you, but $8 K? GTFO.

[ShooBree]

I think it's just you that's ignorant, since you seem to enjoy judging people you know nothing about.

Nope, I've seen your posts. I know more than enough about you to safely assure you that you're a true piece of work with a repugnant mentality.

[Anthony2023]

Maybe it's just me but you sound so incredibly ignorant. Like you're a troll.

I think it's just you that's ignorant, since you seem to enjoy judging people you know nothing about.

[ShooBree]

It might sound like a joke but the older I get the more I realize that there are more things to a woman than her physical appearance. For instance when talking about 9's and 10's to me she is directly disqualified if she has kids, large / many tattoos, piercings and lacks education and manners.

[ShooBree]

Personally I wouldn't trust any recommendations for a restaurant by a fucking tire company.

I need a 8:30 res at botanico.

Maybe it's just me but you sound so incredibly ignorant. Like you're a troll.

[Anthony2023]

Personally I wouldn't trust any recommendations for a restaurant by a fucking tire company.

I need a 8:30 res at botanico.

[Mr Enternational]

Those Michelin stars aren't earned through an objective test. They depend upon a limited number of reviewers, which means (just like your 1-10 scale) it's subjective. Why do you think food critics so often disagree? The same is true with every type of critic.

Just like wine. The "experts" can not even tell expensive shit from cheap shit in a blind taste test. Best thing is to drink the one that taste good to you, not because it costs a certain amount of money.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis, you fell in love with your hooker. That is a level 1, rookie mistake. Don't feel bad, you aren't the first man in recorded history to think with his dick. Perhaps after your "romantic relationship" ends as they inevitably do. You will have learned something.

I can understand why you think she is a hooker V as never in your life have you ever not paid for sex, but she never asked for money from me ever.

And this happened to me multiple times and I posted it happening with another guy on seeking. It just has never happened with you V and it never will. Every time you have sex, it comes at a fixed price.

[JjBee62]

Not really your choice. Did you choose your own family? Well you can not choose your own crew either. Elvis is responsible for appointing people to each crew, the same as he appointed his unemployed single mom vieja who lives off him to be an elite member of society.

Trying to change my name my name to Captain JJ now. Otherwise the crew will all have to say "aye aye Jay Jay" and it will sound like they're reciting the alphabet with an echo.